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From YouTube: NOVEMBER 27 2019 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
4th Session
41st Parliament
NOVEMBER 27 2019 Question Period
A
D
Mr.
speaker,
yesterday
we
learned
from
the
Minister
of
State
for
childcare
that
the
number
of
actually
operating
childcare
spaces
to
be
created
in
British
Columbia
has
been
missed
by
a
country
mile.
The
original
promise
was
24,000
new
childcare
spaces.
In
a
speech
she
gave
on
November
15th,
the
minister
said,
and
I
quote
just
over
2,000
are
now
open
to
parents.
End
quote
so.
Rather
than
24,000
spaces,
we
have
2,000
spaces,
that's
a
91
percent
failure
rate.
So
the
question
goes
to
premier.
E
Thank
You
honorable
speaker,
I,
would
probably
suggest
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
to
double
check
with
his
critic,
because
just
two
weeks
ago,
as
kritis,
what
was
criticising
now
we
only
created
about
5,000
spaces
and
yesterday
he
said,
he's
criticizing
now
we're
creating
2,000
spaces.
His
number
changes
all
the
time,
but
let
me
put
this
in
record
and
put
setting
straight.
The
reality
is
our
government.
We
have
committed
to
support
the
creation
of
22,000
spaces.
E
E
Quickly
remind
the
member
opposite
and
the
leader
of
the
Opposition,
not
his
critic.
When
we
just
started
our
childcare
plan,
we
said
we
don't
need
to
invest
in
childcare
because
we
already
have
universal
child
care
at
home.
24/7.
Honorable
speaker,
their
party
does
not
believe
in
investing
child
care.
While
we
are
building
a
new
system.
D
Well,
this
childcare
program
could
be
called
fun
with
numbers,
because
the
minister
keeps
changing
the
numbers.
We
go
from
twenty
four
thousand
twenty
two
thousand
she
says
on
November
15th
they've
been
two
thousand
fifty
five
spaces
created.
That's
what
the
briefing
note
says
from
her
ministry
that
we'll
hear
about
shortly.
That's
140
spaces
a
month.
At
this
rate,
it's
going
to
take
fourteen
years
to
reach
or
twenty
four
thousand,
or
maybe
it's
twenty
two
thousand,
because
she's
gonna
pretend
that
there.
C
D
D
E
E
E
You,
honorable
speaker,
and
just
really
want
to
remind
a
member
opposite.
This
is
what
the
ML
way
for
ken
loo
cells
Thomson,
who
said
during
their
leadership
race,
nothing
about
the
member
leader
positions
platform.
He
said
the
idea
is
not
housing,
affordability,
ideas
on
child
care;
they
are
just
not
there,
and
this
is
what
our
government
happening
to
me.
E
C
A
Let's
take
another
try
at
this.
Mr.
speaker
on
November
15th,
the
Minister
of
State
for
childcare,
said
to
the
indo-canadian
voice
and
I
quote
just
over
2,000
new
spaces
are
now
open
to
parents.
End
quote,
but
yesterday
in
the
house,
when
I
used
the
same
number,
she
said
quote
the
number
they're
throwing
is
incorrect
and
quote
the
minister
knew
that
what
she
was
saying
was
untruth.
E
E
E
During
the
past
year,
a
little
over
a
year
we
have
funded
and
supported
the
creation
of
10,000
spaces
and
Spanish
are
being
created
throughout
BC
communities.
Every
single
week
there
are
spaces
being
opened
or
spaces
being
build,
we're
working
with
the
municipality,
we're
working
with
indigenous
communities
for
working
with
childcare
provider
throughout
BC
communities,
and
that's
put
it
in
context,
honorable
speaker,
during
their
last
four
years
in
government,
they
have
funded
in
four
years
about
4,000
spaces.
We
have
achieved
and
funded
and
supported
creation
of
childcare
spaces
of
10,000
in
a
little
over
a
year.
A
You,
mr.
speaker,
you
know
the
minister
needs
to
get
her
numbers
straight.
I'm,
gonna
read
from
her
own
budget,
page
22
of
her
Maine
child
care
document.
Families
can
look
forward
to
funding
for
more
than
24,000
new
childcare
spaces
over
the
next
three
years.
The
minister
needs
to
get
her
numbers
straight
on
when
you
look
at
the
numbers
more
closely,
they
get
even
worse
because
the
government
promised
new
spaces
as
I.
Just
read,
not
old
ones
of
the
2055
spaces.
A
877
were
created
through
the
new
spaces
fund,
but
the
rest
are
from
a
start-up
fund
to
help
existing
spaces
become
licensed,
they're,
not
new
spaces.
So
let's
get
this
straight
mr.
speaker
after
two
years,
all
the
help
of
a
large
bureaucracy
spending
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars.
This
man
Minister
managed
to
create
fewer
than
a
thousand
working
spaces.
When
she
promised
24,000
sounds
like
a
fast
ferry
program
to
me,
how's,
it
possible
how's
it
possible
even
for
the
MPP
community
members.
A
E
You
honorable
speaker,
I,
believe
I've
been
setting
the
record
straight
about
the
number
of
creation
of
spaces
that
we've
been
doing
and
we
been
salivating
to
create
a
situation
of
childcare
spaces.
But,
let's
just
remind
all
the
members
in
this
house,
families
in
BC
have
really
struggled
with
the
childcare
crisis.
Early
childhood
educators
have
been
struggling
with
the
lack
of
support.
So
ever
since
we
became
government,
we
have
been
putting
together
a
comprehensive
strategy
with
over
three
dozens
of
initiatives
to
bring
down
childcare
costs
for
the
first
time
in
BC,
C
Street.
C
F
You,
mr.
speaker,
we're
coming
to
the
end
of
a
decade
and
when
we
return
back
to
this
house,
it'll
be
2020.
It's
with
this
context
that,
as
we
turn
the
corner,
I
believe
we
need
to
be
more
deliberate
in
how
we
tackle
the
wicked
problem
of
our
generation.
Climate
change,
clean
BC
is
a
good
start,
one
that
we
celebrate
together.
However,
to
reach
our
targets,
government
is
going
to
have
to
challenge
business
as
usual
and
recalibrate.
F
Our
trajectory
there's
lots
of
talk
about
the
new
economy,
but
when
we
look
around,
we
are
still
harvesting
natural
resources
at
unsustainable
levels,
still
justifying
logging
old
growth
and
still
subsidizing
multinational
fossil
fuel
companies
with
taxpayers
money.
It's
not
only
about
having
the
vision
of
a
more
prosperous,
sustainable
and
resilient
economy.
It's
about
having
a
plan
and
the
political
will
to
bring
all
the
stakeholders
to
the
table,
the
people,
the
invested
industries
and
advocacy
organizations
to
have
an
honest
conversation
about
where
we're
at
and
where
we
need
to
go.
Mr.
F
speaker,
through
you,
two,
the
Honorable
premier,
we've
seen
a
very
similar
approach
to
engaging
industry.
As
we've
seen
with
the
last
government.
We
react
to
threats
and
limit
our
ambition.
Why
are
we
still
lowering
the
bar
for
industries
that
are
trying
to
protect
the
profits
they
extract
through
maintaining
the
status
quo.
B
Thank
you
very
much
honorable
speaker
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
As
the
member
knows,
we
have
one
of
the
most,
if
not
the
most
ambitious
climate
change
emission
reduction
strategy
in
North
America
that
we
have,
coupled
with
an
ambitious
economic
plan
to
reduce
emissions
in
our
traditional
resource
industries
and
to
promote
technological
innovations
to
reduce
emissions
further
and
market
products.
I
respectfully
disagree
with
the
member
honourable
speaker
that
we
react
to
complaints
from
any
one
sector.
B
We
in
fact
consult
broadly
in
the
Climate
Change
Accountability
Act
amendments
that
we
passed
a
couple
of
weeks
ago.
We
have
set
up
and
will
be
establishing
a
council
that
is
broadly
based
of
all
British
Columbia
society,
including
labor,
academia,
local
governments,
indigenous
people,
business,
environmental
organizations
and
people
who
live
out
of
the
mainly
populated
areas
of
southern
Vancouver
Island
and
the
Lower
Mainland.
We
are
intent
on
continuing
our
leadership
in
North
America,
but
we
know,
honourable
speaker,
that
you
cannot
have
a
climate
plan
that
captures
the
imagination
of
British
Columbians.
B
F
You,
mr.
speaker
and
I,
thank
you
to
the
Minister,
for
his
response
is
exactly
where
I'm,
where
I'm
going
with
this
supplemental
question,
because
having
a
steady
hand,
managing
the
status
quo
is
not
good
enough
anymore.
Mr.
speaker,
we
can
see
clearer
than
ever
that
ours
is
a
province
and
an
economy
that
is
in
transition.
While
we
boast
about
a
strong
economy,
we
can
see
the
underlying
signs
of
trouble.
The
province
is
experiencing
a
deep
affordability
crisis
in
urban
British
Columbia
and
a
dramatic
need
for
restoration
in
our
resource
communities.
G
Question
from
the
member
from
the
third
party
and
although
I
don't
have
as
gloomy
outlook
as
he
does
and
I
don't
think
British
Columbians
do
there's
over
a
hundred
thousand
people
working
in
the
innovative
sector
today
and
more
to
come.
You
mentioned
labor
strife
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
read
the
paper
this
morning,
but
free
collective
bargaining
has
allowed
the
transit
situation
to
be
resolved.
If
we
at.
G
Honourable
speaker,
well
that
might
not
have
happened.
The
best
deal,
as
we
all
know,
is
a
deal
is
reached
collectively,
cooperatively
between
the
two
parties
and
when
I
see
union
leaders
coming
out
and
saying,
we've
got
a
good
deal
for
our
members
and
I,
see
the
employer
coming
out
and
saying.
I
got
a
good
deal
for
the
bottom
line.
That's
a
benefit
to
everyone.
Now
I
appreciate
the
member
from
Saanich.
G
North
in
the
islands
wants
to
have
a
more
gloomy
view
as
we
leave
this
place,
but
I'd
like
to
think
that
we've
done
extraordinary
things
here,
working
in
cooperation
with
the
green
partners
we
and
and
all
members
of
this
house.
We
passed
the
independent
that
the
UN
declaration
on
the
rights
fender
bender.
G
I
appreciate
I
appreciate
that
the
member
through
Saanich
North
Gulf
Islands,
would
prefer
that
we
eradicate
the
challenges
of
climate
change
in
less
than
12
months,
but
five
million
souls
in
British
Columbia
doing
the
best
they
can
and
leading
North
America
is
what
we've
been
doing.
I
know
you
agree
with
that
statement.
I
remember.
We
have
an
innovative
economy,
we
have
a
dynamic
community
and
we
have
hope
and
optimism
for
a
very,
very
bright
future
for
British
Columbia.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr.
speaker.
When
the
forest
minister
made
the
decision
to
raid
the
rural
dividend
fund,
he
didn't
have
the
courage
to
look
communities
in
the
eye
and
be
honest
with
them.
It
came
as
a
complete
surprise
and
shock.
In
fact,
Lumbee
mayor
Kevin,
Acton
said,
and
I
quote,
this
has
been
a
devastating
blow
to
our
community.
The
Minister
claims
that
the
program
is
only
temporarily
suspended,
but
frankly
no
one
believes
him.
Will
the
Minister
of
forests
stand
up
today
and
explain
to
devastated
communities
exactly
why
he
cancelled
this
critically
important
program?
Minister.
I
Thank
You
honorable
speaker
and,
of
course,
our
thoughts
and
sympathies,
and
most
of
our
attention
is
towards
the
workers
impacted
by
the
downturn
in
the
forest
sector
and
the
forest
economy
throughout
the
entire
province,
the
Interior
and
the
coast.
And
so
when
we
looked
at
the
the
seriousness
of
the
situation,
we
considered
the
feedback
from
our
community
transition
teams
who
enter
communities
where
curtailments
and
mill
closures
have
happened.
I
We
then
decided
a
69
million
dollar
interior
forest
worker
support
program
and,
honourable
speaker,
we
reprioritize
members
from
weary
prioritize
funding
from
within
various
ministries,
including
the
real
dividend
fund
that
we
temporarily
suspended.
We
understand
the
work
that
communities
have
taken
to
put
these
applications
in
we're
holding
onto
those
applications
for
future
funding
cycles,
and
this
is
supported
by
members
of
communities
across
the
province,
because
people
in
the
interior
people
in
rural
communities
lend
a
helping
hand
to
each
other
when
times
are
tough.
H
Well,
thank
you
very
much
and
the
Minister
knows
full
well
that
it
is
not
widely
supported.
He
knows
that
is
actually
less
than
accurate.
His
leave
his
last
comment
and
and
not
only
that
that's
not
the
only
feedback
that
this
Minister
received
and
maybe
I
can
give
him
a
bit
of
help
with
a
little
more
accurate
description
of
why
he
abruptly
cancelled
the
rural
dividend.
Fund
I
have
a
copy
of
an
email
written
by
the
minister's
senior
ministerial
assistant,
Tim
rena
berg.
This
is
what
was
said,
and
I
quote:
let's
talk
about
feedback
Minister.
H
This
is
what
was
said:
the
25
million
dollar
annual
rural
economic
dividend,
which
was
always
just
a
slush
fund,
end
quote
so.
Rural
communities
across
British
Columbia
were
devastated
with
the
government's
decision
to
end
the
fund,
and
now
we
know
why
we
know
the
real
reason
why
it
was
considered
a
slush
fund,
and
that
is
absolutely
shameful.
Will
the
Minister
stand
up
today
after
hearing
the
words
of
his
senior
ministerial
assistant
feedback,
as
he
would
describe
it?
Look
rural
communities
in
the
I
apologize
for
that
outrageous.
Characterization
of
this
incredibly
important
fund.
I
C
I
Mayor
of
McKenzie,
who
said
I
recognize
that
the
government
recognizes
the
communities
that
are
really
challenged
with
these
forests,
recruit,
ailments
and
I'm,
so
grateful
that
my
community
will
receive
some
of
this
funding.
So
that's
the
kind
of
feedback
we're
getting.
But
let's
look
at
why?
Let's
look
at
why
honorable
speaker
that
we
had
to
repurpose
this
this
funding
for
this
fiscal
year?
Why
did
we
have
to
create
a
69
million
dollar
interior
forest
worker
support
program?
I
And
it's
because
those
members
on
the
other
side
and
the
previous
government
ignored
what
was
coming
down
the
pipe?
They
had
a
consultants
report,
the
2015
that
the
mountain
pine
beetle
would
was
going
to
result
in
up
to
13,
mil
curtailments
and
they
did
nothing
to
help
their
communities
prepare
on.
J
J
We're
talking
about
the
world
dividend
fund
here
there
are
300
applications
that
have
been
revoked
there.
There
are
25,000
people
that
are
counting
on
the
investments
that
flow
into
their
communities
with
these
funds,
and
not
only
does
the
minister
not
have
the
the
the
decency
to
stand
in
this
house
and
apologize
for
those
remarks.
He
tries
to
turn
them
around
and
politicize
them
back
at
us.
It's
that's
reprehensible,
mr.
speaker
now
this
is
members.
J
J
Mr.
speaker,
it's
an
umbrella
to
to
everyone
who's,
trying
to
diversify
their
local
economies
and
create
good-paying
jobs,
and
it's
an
insult
to
every
single
community.
That's
been
hit
hard
with
this
forestry
crisis
so
again
to
the
minister.
Will
the
Minister
stand
up?
Will
he
apologize
for
these
disrespectful,
just
a
slush
fund
comments,
and
will
he
reinstate
the
25
million
dollars
in
rural
dividend,
funds
which
he
has
ripped
out
of
the
hands
of
rural
communities.
I
Your
honourable
speaker
and
I
appreciate
how
much
rule
dividend
funding
means
to
small
communities.
I
come
from
a
small
community
myself,
honorable
speaker,
and
we
know
what
it
means
that
additional
funding-
and
that's
also,
we
know
the
mass
of
forestry-
was
left
in
by
the
previous
government
and
why
those
funds
need
to
be
reallocated
on
a
temporary
basis
in
order
to
support
forestry
workers
that
were
ignored
by
the
previous
government.
Almost
speaker,
it's
talking
about
reinvesting
in
in
communities
this,
the
previous
government
cut
services
and
rural
communities.
I
They
tend
to
land,
rural
communities,
we're
opening
schools,
we're
building
schools
and
rural
communities,
we're
increasing
health
services,
we're
building
hospitals
in
Williams,
Lake,
we're
building
a
hospital
Burt
st.
James
honourable
speaker,
we're
building
schools
and
quenelle
and
Smithers.
This
is
a
government
that
knows
that
reinvesting
in
rural
communities
is
an
important
part
of
the
economy
of
BC
and
we'll
continue
to
do
it.
J
J
Our
our
former
government
invested
over
a
billion
dollars
in
supporting
the
economy
and
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
pine
beetle
devastation
supporting
communities
all
through
the
interior.
The
north.
This
government
has
taken
services
away
from
communities,
has
ripped
the
rural
dividend
fund
out
of
the
hands
of
rural
British
Columbians
once
again,
members
once
again,
once
again
quote
just
a
slush
fund.
End
quote:
that's
the
opinion
of
this
government
when
it
comes
to
towards
rural
economic
development
in
the
to
500
area
code
of
this
province.
J
The
mayor,
the
mayor
of
canal
flats,
Carl,
Sturtz
er,
has
a
different
opinion
than
the
ministers,
and
he
said
this
and
I
quote
this.
Funding
is
key
and
critical
and
I
can't
imagine
the
communities
that
are
going
through
what
we
went
through
in
2015
and
2016,
not
having
the
ability
to
draw
from
that
kind
of
resource,
and
quote
so
mr.
speaker,
since
the
Minister
won't.
J
Do
it
it's
time
for
the
premier
to
stand
up
it's
time
for
the
premier
to
make
the
trip
to
the
interior
the
north
and
looked
people
in
the
eyes
and
tell
them
that
he's
got
their
back.
It's
time
for
the
premier
to
demonstrate
that
he's.
Actually
the
members
for
all
of
British
Columbia.
Will
the
premier
stand
up
in
this
house?
Will
he
show
British
Columbians
that
he's
got
their
back?
We
disavow
the
comments
that
were
made
just
to
slush
fund
comets
and
welcome
reinstate
these
world
dividend
funds.
G
G
G
The
Speaker
I
appreciate
honorable
speaker
that
they've
got
nothing
left
to
say,
but
God
never
left
to
say
that
the
strike
in
the
Lower
Mainland
has
been
averted.
There's
a
mediator
in
placing
and
in
conflit
shark
there's
a
minimization
Prince
George
we're
building
workers
could
be
a
most
informative
speaker
while
they
were
fiddling
and
workers.
Columbia
was
burning
back
in
Jerusalem
back
site
house
I.
Remember
took
a
billion
dollars
out
of
ICBC
that
we've
been
trying
to
stop
gap
since
we
got
here.
G
K
Thank
You
mr.
speaker,
I
almost
thought
we
were
in
the
middle
of
a
know
per
episode
there
for
a
moment
with
the
premiers
answer.
Mr.
speaker,
if
we
want
to
talk
about
the
track
record
of
this,
let's
talk
about
the
track
record.
Let's
talk
about
the
Premier
whose
comments
in
the
election
were
no
mils
will
close
under
his
watch.
Does
the
Premier
remember
that
pearl
of
a
chestnut
of
a
quote
that
he
gave
out
how
about
the
support
for
the
communities
that's
gone
missing?
K
Why
is
there
no
other
jurisdiction,
feeling
the
same
forestry
crunch
that
the
interior
in
the
coastal
areas
are
feeling
under
this
NDP
government?
It's
not
happening
in
Alberta,
it's
not
happening
in
Washington
State,
but
it's
sure
happening
here
and
maybe
maybe
the
attitude
of
justice
slush
fund
is
why?
Because
this
government's
cancellation
of
the
world
dividend
fund,
it's
been
deceitful
and
it's
been
done
completely
out
of
spite
a
rural
dividend
fund.
That's
worth
twenty
five
million
dollars.
It
has
thirty.
K
Five
million
dollars
worth
of
applications
in
and
the
Minister
forest
seems
to
think
he
just
magically
roll
those
applications
over
to
the
next
year
and
there
wouldn't
be
other
applications
in
the
queue
in
that
following
year
as
well.
So
this
is
Mayor
David,
Wilkes,
Apsara
would
and
I
quote.
It's
certainly
disturbing
that
the
provincial
government
can
cancel
a
program
and
which
applications
were
in
the
queue.
And
now
it's
just
gone.
K
Thirty-Five
million
dollars
worth
of
applications
for
twenty
five
million
dollar
fund
in
the
queue
merit
Patrick
Patrick
Lewis,
founder
of
the
Aboriginal
youth
mountain
bike
program,
said,
and
I
quote.
My
emails
lit
up
over
the
last
couple
of
days
hearing
from
folks
that
are
pretty
shocked
and
upset
and
surprised
by
the
announcement
and
how
it's
going
to
impact
their
community
in
the
coming
year
and
quote,
but
to
this
government
it's
just
a
slush
fund,
and
today
it
seems
quite
humorous
to
the
members
on
the
other
side.
K
So
again
will
a
premier
apologize
to
the
founders
of
the
Aboriginal
Aboriginal
youth,
mountain
bike
program,
Mara
Wilks,
all
the
other
community
groups
and
everyone
else
out.
There
that's
been
impacted
by
their
spiteful
removal
of
twenty-five
million
dollar
rural
dividend
fund.
Under
the
guise
of
trying
to
help
communities
out
of
a
fund.
I
would
note
not.
One
dollar
has
flowed
after
four
months
of
it
being
announced.
G
G
That's
why
and
I.
Forgive
me
honorable,
speaker,
I
didn't
realize
that
people
didn't
know
who
I
was
pointing
to,
but
we're
building
hospitals
in
terrorists
promised
and
not
delivered
by
the
other
guys,
but
building
us
from
the
Williams
Lake
promise
not
delivered
by
the
other
guys
building
a
hospital
in
Dawson
Creek,
building
a
hospital
in
Fort,
st.
James
promised,
but
not
even
delivered
on
I,
even
remotely
delivered
on
quenelle,
an
ICU
couch
and
a
brand
new
hospital
building
schools
all
across
British
Columbia.
That's
world
development.
G
You
were
pulling
services
out
of
committees,
we're
putting
them
back
in
and
I
defy.
I
ask
any
one
of
the
members
on
the
other
side
to
go
into
resort
for
forest
dependent
communities
to
say
we're
not
going
to
give
you
bridging
funds
for
your
pension,
we're
not
going
to
help
you
with
retraining
because
they
sat
on
their
Duff's
for
15
years
as
the
industry
went
into
the
can
we're
trying
to
do
something
about
it.
A
coherent
forestry
plan
was
desperately
needed.
The
other
side
didn't
know
how
to
do
it.