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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
4th Session
41st Parliament
NOVEMBER 28 2019 Question Period
A
Speakers
have
ruled
that
if
the
chair
did
not
hear
the
offensive
language
or
phrase
or
if
the
offensive
language
was
not
recorded
in
the
debates,
the
chair
could
not
be
expected
in
the
absence
to
rule
in
the
absence
of
a
reliable
record.
In
this
instance,
the
and
parliamentary
remarks
are
not
captured
in
the
Hansard
transcript.
A
However,
may
I
cautiously
note
that
it
is
my
impression
that
the
tone
and
tenor
of
oral
question
period
has
improved
dramatically
over
the
session
and
I
want
to
thank
all
members
for
their
support
in
this
matter,
but
we're
about
to
begin
now.
The
last
oral
question
period
of
the
year,
and
indeed
it's
the
last
one
of
the
decade.
I
would
like
to
encourage
all
members
to
take
the
opportunity
to
end
the
false
sitting
in
a
positive
and
productive
manner
and
to
ensure
that
we
hear
both
the
question
and
the
answer.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
B
C
Thank
You
honourable
speaker,
and
our
thoughts
and
sympathies
go
out
to
all
forest
workers
that
are
encountering
difficult
times
because
of
that
largely
a
global
issue.
Around
lumber
prices
we
have
embarked
on
action,
unlike
the
previous
government
honourable
speaker,
who
ignored
the
trends
that
were
coming
on
the
coast
for
sector.
We
have
embarked
on
action
through
the
coast,
forest
sector,
revitalization
initiative.
It's
an
initiative
that
we
took
on
immediately
upon
forming
government
and
part
of
those
actions
that
we've
already
implemented
involves
driving
more
logs
to
domestic
production
and
moving
more
fibre
out
of
the
forests.
C
B
You
know,
thank
you
very
much
to
the
the
Minister
thoughts
and
sympathies
are
appreciated,
but
what
workers
want
what
families
need
is
support
an
action
from
this
government,
let's
be
clear,
even
at
the
NDP
convention.
Recently,
these
steel
workers
made
it
clear
to
this
premier
that
the
action
really
amounted
to
a
lack
of
support.
They
weren't
happy
either
the
steel
workers
told
the
premier
directly.
In
fact,
the
premier
has
also
heard
repeated
calls
to
deal
with
the
stumpage
system.
B
Instead,
he's
done
absolutely
nothing
while
the
forest
industry
is
freefall,
just
ask
the
steel
workers,
they
brought
it
up
at
the
recent
convention.
Here's
what
company
president
Brian
doorman
says
and
I
quote:
the
government
is
just
taking
too
much
of
our
sales
price
for
stumpage
50%
of
our
sales
go
to
the
government,
which
is
unacceptable
for
any
sound
business
to
move
forward.
End
quote:
that's
exactly
the
same
for
First
Nations
would
land
tenures
as
well,
which
is
why
nobody
is
operating
on
them
at
the
moment.
So
it's
all
talk
and
no
action.
B
C
You
honourable
speaker,
well:
I
want
to
point
out
on
October
1st,
the
Interior
rates
on
stumpage
decreased
by
12%
and
the
coast
rates
decreased
by
24
percent,
so
the
stoppage
system
that
was
put
in
place
by
the
previous
government
is
responsive
to
the
lumber
prices
globally.
Honourable
speaker,
but,
honourable
speaker,
what
we
really
have
here
is
an
opposition
in
disarray.
A
A
C
You
Thank
You
honorable
speaker,
so
the
leader
of
the
Official
Opposition
and
a
member
who
just
spoke
claim.
They
want
a
review
of
the
stumpage
system,
but
the
official
opposition
critic
for
forestry
and
I
quote
says
our
stumpage
system.
If
it
were
to
be
artificially
adjusted,
we
would
be
in
trouble
in
terms
of
our
neighbors
to
the
south
of
the
border
and
the
tariffs
and
duties
set
in
this
place.
So
they
can't
get
the
story
straight.
C
D
Thank
You
mr.
speaker,
cigarettes,
ins,
Forest
Products,
is
a
family
operated
business
located
in
Williams
Lake
president
Brian
C
Kherson
wrote
an
urgent
letter
to
this
government
on
November
18th
and
I,
raised
it
directly
with
the
premier.
Last
week,
brian
writes
and
I
quote:
we
are
facing
a
financial
hardship
due
to
the
state
of
the
forest
industry
as
a
result
of
high
stumpage
rates.
We
currently
owe
approximately
4.6
million
and
are
looking
for
temporary
relief
and
quote
to
the
premier
world
citizen
forest
products
receive
the
stay
on
payments.
C
Your
honourable
speaker-
and
we
have
concerns
with
how
contractors
are
able
to
survive
in
this
difficult
climate,
we've
put
directly
put
resources
towards
contractors
and
to
and
to
those
who
are
involved
in
the
forest
sector.
As
far
as
the
particular
letter
that
was
written
by
a
member
of
the
by
a
member
of
the
members
constituency
that
was
directed
towards
the
Finance
Minister,
those
are
the
kind
of
considerations
and
deferrals
of
stumpage
that
at
rest
with
those
decisions
within
the
Finance
Ministry.
C
But
we
are
attuned
to
what
is
going
on
in
the
interior
and
that's
why
we've
launched
the
interior
renewal
process
because,
as
we
all
knew,
and
as
this
government
knew,
there
was
going
to
be
a
decrease
in
the
number
of
trees
of
volume
available
through
that
line,
mountain
pine
beetle
epidemic
being
over.
And
so
we
took
a
view
that
we
need
to
get
the
input
from
people
around
the
province,
especially
in
the
interior,
and
to
coming
up
with
new
ways
of
approaching
that
issue.
And
so
we
embarked
on
the
interior
force.
C
D
C
Honourable
speaker,
as
I
said
in
my
previous
answer,
those
are
decisions
that
come
out
of
the
Ministry
of
Finance
there's
a
number
of
factors
to
consider
what
I
want
to
inform
the
member
is
that
there's
investments
going
into
her
constituency
to
assist
with
the
overall
picture,
the
overall
picture
and
forestry.
We
opened
a
community
worker
support
program
office
in
a
hundred-mile
house
two
weeks
ago.
C
And
understanding
the
impact
of
the
global
downturn
in
commodity
prices,
we've
managed
to
direct
force
enhancement
of
BC
funding
into
areas
that
are
important.
For
instance,
in
the
members
constituency
recently
announced
seven
hundred
and
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
seven
hundred
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
Caribou
pulp
and
paper
to
bring
seventy
four
thousand
cubic
meters
wood
out
of
the
forests
near
100
raha.
So
these
are
the
kind
of
initiatives
were
taking,
because
we
understand
the
impact
to
global
downturn
is
having
on
the
economies
of
the
Interior
and
weren't
determined
to
address
it.
E
Thank
You
honorable
speaker
over
the
last
decade,
the
royalties
coming
in
from
natural
gas
have
fallen
considerably.
Last
year,
the
total
value
was
102
million
compared
to
a
decade
earlier
when
it
reached
1.3
billion,
but
at
the
same
time
far
more
gas
was
produced.
Part
of
this
decline,
of
course,
has
been
due
to
the
declining
market
prices
for
gas,
but
part
of
it
is
also
the
infamous
deep,
well
credit
program.
My
colleagues
and
I
have
raised
the
issue
of
the
deep
well
credit
several
times
in
this
house.
E
It
is
an
outdated
fossil
fuel
subsidy,
currently
sitting
at
well
over
2.6
billion
in
credits,
and
just
this
year
companies
claim
631
million
in
deep,
well
credits,
revenues
that
did
not
come
to
the
province
for
a
natural
resource
that
belongs
to
the
crown.
Added
to
this
is
the
bouquet
of
over
five
billion
in
government
subsidies.
Once
you
add
it
all
up
that
have
been
given
to
LNG
Canada
a
single
plant
that
is
soon
to
become
bc's
largest
carbon
polluter.
Meanwhile,
the
rest
of
BC
has
been
told
to
tighten
its
belt.
E
A
couple
weeks
ago,
order-in-council
580
2019
was
signed
and
released,
which
clarifies
some
of
the
details
about
how
clean
BC,
industrial
and
sentient
program
will
operate,
particularly
in
relation
to
the
fiscal
framework
for
LNG
Canada
through
you,
honorable
speaker,
my
question
is
to
the
mr.
finance:
what
percent
of
the
carbon
tax
above
$30
a
ton
will
lng
canada
get
back
through
the
clean
bc
industrial
incentive
program
when
it
starts
operating
in
its
first
eligible
year.
F
Thank
you
very
much
honorable
speaker
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
The
members
question
is
situated
in
in
the
context
of
climate
action
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
I
want
to
take
this
opportunity,
honourable
speaker,
to
talk
about
the
program
that
we
introduced
just
under
a
year
ago
to
reduce
emissions
in
British
Columbia
significantly
in
all
sectors
in
all
sectors.
Honourable
speaker,
it's
called
clean
BC.
F
The
members
of
the
green
caucus,
the
members
of
the
green
caucus
and
the
leader
of
the
third
party
worked
with
us
on
developing
a
plan
to
reduce
emissions
across
all
sectors.
We
have
implemented
that
plan
and
we
continue
to
implement
that
plan.
We
understand
that
it
will
take
a
number
of
steps
and
a
number
of
stages
to
reach
our
target,
but
we're
committed
to
reach
that
target
and
we
introduced
accountability,
legislation
and
passed
that
accountability.
Legislation
in
this
session
in
order
to
ensure
British
Columbians
can
hold
us
accountable
for
what
we
do.
F
We
have
had
success.
The
minister
of
municipal
affairs
and
housing
is
building
zero
energy,
efficient
buildings
throughout
the
province
and
perhaps
perhaps
honorable
speaker,
more
importantly,
more
remember,
Li.
The
minister
of
Municipal,
Affairs
and
housing
is
investing
significantly
in
retrofitting
social
housing
for
those
who
can
least
afford
high
energy
bills
to
live
in
comfort
with
lower
bills
and
greater
affordability.
F
Honorable
speaker,
we
have
a
number
of
measures
and
transportation
and
Industry
and
I'll
be
happy
to
talk
about
them
at
greater
length,
but
the
member
knows
we
have
a
plan
we're
on
track.
Then
we
have
accountability
and
we
have
the
best
and
most
energy-efficient
Carbon
Reduction
program
in
North
America.
E
E
E
Mac
I
wonder
what
speaker
I'm
just
going
to
try
again
to
ask
the
finance
minister
question
and
in
light
of
the
climate,
Accountability
Act
and
the
transparency
and
accountability
that
this
government
has
made
a
commitment
to
I
think
that
it
is
important
that
the
public
knows
very
clearly
how
much
the
oil
and
gas
industry
is
getting
in
subsidies
from
this
government.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
Minister
of
Finance
again
the
same
question:
what
percent
of
the
carbon
tax
above
$30
a
ton?
A
F
F
Honorable
speaker,
honorable
speaker,
I
gave
the
context
of
the
overall
emissions
reduction
strategy
and
clean
BC,
because
it's
very
important
as
part
of
an
answer
that
we
understand
reducing
emissions
across
all
sectors,
including
industry.
The
program
to
which
the
program
to
which
the
member
refers
is
called
the
clean
BC
program
for
industry.
It
is
scheduled
through
a
combination
of
rebates
based
on
highest
performing
across
the
globe
industries,
with
respect
to
carbon
intensity,
to
get
money
back
so
that
they
can
continue
to
invest
in
emission
reduction
strategies.
F
This
program,
coupled
with
technological
incentives,
will
reduce
2.5
million
tons
of
carbon
dioxide
equivalent
by
the
year
2030.
In
addition,
in
addition,
honourable
speaker
to
all
the
other
measures
that
are
being
taken,
honourable
speaker,
I
know
that
the
members
of
the
third
party
disagree
with
this
approach,
but
it
is
important
number.
It
is
critically
important
and
if
the
members
are
members
would
just
be
give
me
a
second
or
two
I
will
give
them
the
answer
their
secrets.
F
It
is
critically
important,
honorable
speaker
that
we
keep
the
economy
moving
and
British
Columbia,
while
lowering
emissions
that
we
keep
people
employed
in
British
Columbia.
While
we
work
together
with
industry
to
lower
emissions,
that's
exactly
what
we're
doing
LNG
Canada,
honourable
speaker
is
incredible
for
exactly
the
same
framework
as
all
of
the
rest
of
industry.
In
British
Columbia,
the
rebate.
They
will
get
the
additional
$20
a
ton
by
the
coming
years.
Listen
carefully!
Members
opposite,
listen
carefully!
This
is
what
you're
waiting
for.
G
Well,
thank
you
very
much
mr.
speaker,
just
like
the
NDP's
broken
child
care
promises.
The
Housing
Minister
has
also
failed
to
deliver
on
the
NDP's
housing
commitments
based
on
the
numbers
in
her
own
reports
and
again,
this
is
the
BC
housing,
affordable,
BC,
housings,
affordable
housing
investment
plan
report.
First,
quarterly
update
of
the
22,000
units
of
new
housing
that
the
minister
claims
to
have
delivered.
Bc
housing
says
that
the
number
is
only
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy-nine.
Oh,
that's!
That's!
On
page
five,
over
half
of
the
units
have
no
funding.
G
That's
also
on
page
five,
fifty
nine
percent
of
the
projects
are
behind
schedule.
That's
on
page
twelve,
how
many
units
have
been
completed
as
part
of
the
minister's
a
community
housing
fund
zero?
How
many
student
housing
units
have
been
completed?
Province-Wide
zero.
So
mr.
speaker,
recognising
recognizing
regulation.
A
G
I'm
sensing
a
bit
of
prickle
enos
on
the
other
side,
but
the
truth
hurts
mr.
speaker
recognizing
recognizing
just
what
a
failure
of
the
minister
and
her
housing
plan
have
been.
While
she
stand
up
here
today
and
tell
British
Columbians,
not
how
many
announcements
she's
made
not
how
much
rhetoric
she's
put
up
there,
there's
many
actual
units
of
housing
as
she
completed
as
she
opened
and
are
actually
occupied
by
people
to
the
end
of
this
year.
H
H
G
Mr.
speaker,
3,000
units
would
be
about
or
3,000
people
would
be
about
2,000
units,
not
not
that
22,000
units
which
she
claims
to
have
delivered
or
anywhere
close
to
the
114
thousand,
that
for
these
women
114
thousand
units
that
British
Columbians
are
are
supposedly
going
to
see
over
the
next
10
years.
The
ministers
failure
to
deliver
housing,
unfortunately
for
British
Clemens
also
extends
to
rental
units.
She
she
has
no
plans
to
increase
housing
supply.
Notes
that
note
this
mr.
G
speaker,
only
1364
rental
units
were
built
in
the
City
of
Vancouver
last
year
that
compares
to
17,000
450
units
built
in
Seattle
last
year.
Mr.
speaker,
her
rental
housing
program
has
also
opened
the
doors
on
a
grand
total
of
71,
affordable
housing
units
province,
wide
71,
the
entire
province
of
British
Columbia.
To
this
point
two
and
a
half
years
into
their
mandate.
Mr.
G
speaker,
according
to
a
report
from
Central
One
credit
union
this
month
and
I
and
I
quote,
we
anticipate
a
court
according
to
a
report
from
central
one
credit
union
this
month
and
I
quote,
we
anticipate
an
under
supply
of
construction
to
result
in
price
escalation
and
rental
hikes
and
quotes.
So
my
question
to
the
minister
would
be
this:
given
her
complete
failure
to
increase
housing
supply,
will
the
Minister
at
least
give
renters
the
$400
renters
rebate
that
they
were
promised,
or
will
this
become
the
NDP's
next
broken
promise.
H
H
I'd
like
to
tell
the
member
and
teach
the
member
a
little
bit
about
construction,
because
clearly
he
doesn't
understand
how
it
works.
In
spring
of
2018,
we
launched
a
new
community
housing
fund
honorable
speaker
to
find
a
part
of
the
rental
housing
for
families
and
seniors,
and
the
project
indeed
asked
it
in
his
own
community.
They
applied
they
applied
and
last
fall.
We
announced
that
they
got
the
funding
honorable
speaker,
then
the
project's
have
to
go
through
the
municipal
steps,
including
design,
rezoning
and
public
hearings.
H
So
it
was
received
in
February
2019,
and
then
they
need
a
building
permit,
which
this
project
just
received.
Honorable
speaker
and
I,
was
so
pleased
to
see
that
the
two
members
from
Kamloops
were
able
to
join
me
to
celebrate
the
shovels
hitting
the
ground
on
November
15
to
then
150
more
homes
are
coming
to
their
communities.
I
Mr.
speaker,
the
mandate
letter
for
the
Housing
Minister
says
and
I
quote:
deliver
an
annual
renters
rebate
of
$400
and
quote
Mr
Speaker
I
have
an
NDP
budget
planning
document
that
shows
that
the
rental
rebate
was
costed
at
163
million
dollars
annually
and
was
supposed
to
be
implemented
this
year,
but
guess
what
it's
another
NDP
broken
promise.
Even
the
NDP
members
say
it's
dead
and
was
never
anything
more
than
empty
rhetoric.
So
did
the
minister
members
come
clean,
Minister
our
renters,
going
to
receive
the
promised
rebate?
Yes
or
no.
I
This
will
be
long
honorable,
speaker,
soy,
pink,
Oh
Oh
stick
with
this
section.
Only
we
can
talk
about.
Then.
If
there
are
more
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
about
the
rest
of
things.
We've
done
in
simply
two
and
a
half
years.
Let's
start
off
members
session,
which
is
the
passing
of
the
UN
declaration.
A
A
A
J
Thanks,
I
have
a
question
for
the
minister
for
mental
health
and
addictions.
I'm
I'm
going
to
a
fundraiser
tomorrow
night
for
the
abbotsford
women's
center.
They,
of
course,
have
operated
a
an
addiction
recovery
center
for
many
many
years.
They
they
don't
receive
any
government
funding
they've
been
very
successful
this
year.
Of
course,
the
situation
is
critical
because,
in
addition
to
their
operating
dollars,
they
are
having
to
cover
the
costs
of
being
evicted
evicted
because
the
policy
change
is
made
by
this
government.
J
K
Thank
You
honorable
speaker
and
thank
you
to
the
member
opposite
for
the
question
issues
related
to
the
agricultural
land
reserve.
We
have
already
canvassed
in
this
house
and
I
won't
be
speaking
to
that,
but
I'm
very
excited
to
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
what
we
have
done.
Honorable
speaker
on
the
issue.
K
Adri
speaker,
we,
our
government,
the
premier
and
I
a
few
months
ago,
launched
a
pathway
to
hope,
and
that
is
our
roadmap
for
improving
mental
health
and
addictions
care
in
the
province
of
British
Columbia.
It
has
been
embraced
from
one
corner
of
the
country
to
the
other,
from
people
on
the
front
lines
working
in
mental
health
and
addictions.
Inaudible
speaker,
our
pathway
to
hope,
is
focused
on
several
aspects.
We
emerged.
A
K
K
I
know
speaker:
we
have
already
initiated
to
child
and
youth
mental
health
teams
in
school
districts
in
Maple
Ridge
mission
and
in
Comox
honorable
speaker.
That's
about
wraparound
care
for
our
young
people,
so
they
get
the
support
they
need
early
in
life
before
we
get
into
addictions
issues,
inaudible,
speaker,
foundry,
centers,
foundry,
youth
centers,
which
are
one-stop
shops
for
youth
at
risk,
whether
that
substance
use
or
mental
illness.
Honorable
speaker,
we
will.
We
have
announced
funding
for
nineteen
foundries.
K
Recovery
homes
in
this
province
under
the
previous
government
have
been
the
wild
wild
west,
with
virtually
no
enforcement
of
any
rules
to
ensure
that
they're,
safe
hair
care
and
our
recovery
homes.
We've
introduced
a
few
regulations
that
come
into
place.
December
1st.
We
are
proud
of
our
record
a
building
of
beginning
to
build
an
entire
continuum
of
care
for
treatment
and
recovery
in
the.
J
At
a
time
when
this
Minister
is
charged
with
the
very
task
of
protecting
the
interests
of
those
vulnerable
people
and
in
response
to
a
straight-up
question
about
what
the
minister
is
doing
to
advance
her
mandate
to
protect
those
people,
she
stands
up
and
can
think
of
nothing
better
to
say
than
make
political
accusations.
I
think
it
is
tremendously
disappointing
and
the
people
watching
this
in
those
homes
are
going
to
be
tremendously
disappointed.
Has
the
Minister
intervened?
Has
she
taken
steps?
J
Has
she
actually
done
something
consistent
with
the
mandate
she
was
given
by
the
premier
to
defend
the
interests
of
those
recovery
centers
to
defend
the
interests
of
the
people
receiving
that
vital
service?
That
vital
addiction,
recovery
treatment
or
is
she
just
gonna,
stand
up
again
and
make
political
accusations
that
will
do
nothing
to
help
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
our
society
who
are
counting
on
this
Minister?
Who
are
counting
on
this
Minister
to
stand
up
for
their
interests
and
step
in
where
her
colleagues
have
so
miserably
failed.
L
Thank
You
officer
can
I
thank
the
member
for
his
question.
He
has
raised
this
issue
in
the
house
previously.
I
bet
I'm,
certainly
aware
of
it.
I've
been
working
with
the
Minister
of
Agriculture
to
find
a
way
forward
for
the
family
of
the
women
in
question.
With
respect
to
abbotsford,
the
Langly
issue
is
new
to
me:
I
look
forward
to
correspondence
from
the
member
or
the
members
from
Langley
on
that
in
that
regard,
and
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
help
as
all
governments
should
do.
L
Significant,
the
member
for
caribou
north
made
a
statement
calling
on
all
of
us
to
work
together
today,
as
we
started
question
period
on
the
the
challenging
issues
that
are
happening
in
her
community
and
indeed
right
across
British,
Columbia
and
I
know.
Every
member
has
certainly
not
just
empathy
but
concern
for
the
challenges
that
individuals
in
our
home
community
space.
When
it
comes
to
mental
health
and
addictions,
we
are
doing
our
level
best
with
the
resources
available.
L
We
continue
to
have
a
robust
economy,
a
triple-a
credit
rating,
the
highest
job
creation
rate
in
the
country,
economic
growth
exceeding
every
other
jurisdiction
in
the
country,
so
I
believe
that
the
resources
are
there,
we're
going
to
work
with
the
people
involved
to
get
solutions
to
the
members
questions
but
well
I'm.
On
my
feet,
honourable
speaker,.
L
Hey
since
we're
extending
question
period-
and
this
is
this-
is
my
last
opportunity,
my
last
opportunity
of
the
decade-
I
want
to
go
back
to
a
question
was
raised
by
the
member
for
Kamloops
south
and
he
referred
to
the
central
one
central
one,
the
housing
report.
He
didn't
read
the
first
line,
or
the
speaker
says
he
sees
housing
markets-
are
recovering
much
faster
than
expected
because
of
the
good
work
of
the
people
on
this.