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From YouTube: FEBRUARY 19 2020 Question Period
Description
The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
5th Session
41st Parliament
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
speaker,
day
after
day,
we
continue
to
watch
as
illegal
blockades
are
having
a
devastating
impact
on
the
livelihood
and
lives
of
British,
Columbians
and
Canadians.
In
fact,
we've
just
learned
that,
as
we
speak,
there
is
a
blockade
near
on
a
rail
line
near
Spruce,
Grove,
Alberta,
stopping
all
rail
traffic
west
to
Prince,
Rupert
and
Vancouver.
A
Yesterday,
the
Sierra
Club
of
British
Columbia
issued
a
statement
in
solidarity
with
and
I
quote
resistance
and
blockades.
End
quote:
this
is
an
organization
that
the
Minister
of
the
Environment
knows
well,
not
only
is
he
their
former
former
executive
director,
but
he's
met
with
them
regularly
over
the
past
two
years.
With
that
in
mind,
will
the
Minister
stand
up
today
and
denounce
those
that
promote
and
participate
in
the
illegal
protests
that
are
wreaking
havoc
across
our
province?.
C
Thank
You,
honorable
speaker
and
I
thank
the
the
member
for
the
question.
This
is
a
serious
issue
here,
not
just
in
British
Columbia
but
in
fact,
right
across
the
country
that
our
government
and
the
federal
government,
along
with
other
provinces,
are
trying
to
to
resolve
in
a
way
that
gets
the
trains
moving
in
this
country
and
eliminates
rail
blocks
wherever
they
are.
As
we
have
also
said,
people
in
this
country
and
this
province
have
a
right
to
peaceful
protest.
We
support
that.
We
do
not
support
illegal
protests.
C
We
do
not
support
illegal
blockages
and
that's
the
position
of
this
government
and
I
would
hope
that
would
be
the
position
of
the
the
opposition
and
I
think
I've
made
it
really
clear
member.
We
do
not
support
illegal
demonstrations
illegal
blockages.
That's
why
our
government
is
working
closely
with
the
federal
government
to
bring
a
resolution
to
dispute,
not
just
here
in
British
Columbia,
but
indeed
in
the
other
parts
of
the
country.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
appreciate
the
comments
from
the
Solicitor
General
and
I
just
want
to
reassure
him.
Our
position
on
this
matter
has
been
very
clear
from
day
one.
What
is
that
question
today
is
a
relationship
between
the
Minister
of
the
Environment,
who
has
an
opportunity
to
stand
up
and
to
make
a
comment
today
to
an
organization
of
which
he
was
the
executive
director.
So
let's
see
what
else
the
Sierra
Club
members.
A
You,
mr.
speaker,
let's
see
what
else
the
Sierra
Club
had
to
say.
Yesterday
they
described
the
BC
Supreme
Court
decision
to
extend
coastal
Gas
links
injunction
order
as
having
and
I
quote
perpetuated.
Violence
against
with
suet
and
people
end
quote.
Last
week
they
repeatedly
tweeted
out
hashtag
shut
down
Canada.
These
statements
in
opposition
to
the
court
and
the
rule
of
are
simply
wrong.
C
C
Government
has
been
clear
from
the
beginning
and
speaks
with
one
voice.
While
we
support
the
right
of
peaceful
protest,
we
do
not
support
illegal
blockages.
Honorable
speaker,
that's
why
we
continue
to
work
with
the
federal
government.
That's
why
he
worked
with
other
provinces.
That's
why
we
work
with
First
Nations
to
ensure
that
we
can
bring
a
resolution
to
this
issue
that
works
for
this
province
and
all
Canadians.
D
D
E
D
Organized
BC
is
another
group
dedicated
to
the
training
of
activists.
Their
director
is
providing
active
social
media
support
for
ongoing
blockades.
One
of
their
trainers
was
an
organizer
of
last
week's
activities
here
at
the
legislature
and
the
subsequent
attempt
to
BCE
government
shutdown
and
a
another
individual
trainer.
It's
a
former
NDP
candidate
from
Ontario
who
is
actively
organizing
actions
with
3
500
org,
but
that,
apparently,
is
not
all
they
do.
C
D
The
minister
of
housing
doesn't
want
to
apparently
discuss
her
parliamentary
secretaries
involvement
with
another
activist
organization,
that's
up
to
its
eyeballs
in
promoting
a
disrespect
and
blockade
disrespect
for
the
rule
of
law.
Look
if,
if
members
opposite
want
to
be
activists,
then
leave
this
place
and
go
back
to
being
an
activist,
but
when
you're
here,
maybe
you
can
do
your
job.
Do
your
duty.
D
To
the
member
to
whom
the
parliamentary
secretary,
the
member
for
North,
Vancouver,
Lonsdale,
presumably
reports
how
much
public
money
has
been
spent
and
provided
to
this
organization
that
is
today,
apparently
dedicated
to
the
disruption
of
the
entire
Canadian
economy
and
putting
thousands
of
British
Columbians
out
of
work.
And
will
she
stand
up
and
do
a
relatively
straightforward
thing
and
announce
unequivocally
that
no
more
public
money
will
be
sent
to
this
organization.
F
Thank
You
mr.
speaker,
members,
Thank
You
mr.
speaker,
budget
2020
had
some
interesting
things
to
say
about
competitiveness
specifically
and
I
quote.
A
key
goal
is
to
ensure
that
BC's
leadership
on
climate
change
does
not
materially
impair
BC's
business
competitiveness
for
many
BC
industries.
This
might
be
a
good
policy
as
long
as
we
are
making
strategic
investments
in
innovation.
However,
this
argument
falls
completely
entirely
apart
when
this
government
uses
it
to
justify
LNG
and
oil
and
gas
sector
expansion
in
our
province.
F
Another
way
of
saying
that
we
won't
quote
materially
impair
competitiveness
is
that
we
will
ensure
that
the
oil
and
gas
sector
in
BC
is
able
to
expand.
My
question
is
for
the
Minister
of
Environment
and
climate
change
strategy.
How
does
the
government
reconcile
its
legislated
requirement
to
meet
its
GHG
reduction
targets
with
policies
that
promote
the
expansion
of
the
oil
and
gas
sector
in
British,
Columbia
Minister.
B
G
Speaker
but
as
the
member
knows
as
I
believe,
the
member
knows
that
we
all
understand
that
moving
toward
a
net
zero
carbon
future
in
the
world
in
British
Columbia
in
Canada
is
a
process
of
transition.
It
is
not
helpful,
and
that
is
why
the
member
knows
that
we
focused
on
helping
emissions.
Intensive
trade
exposed
industries
to
do
everything
they
can
to
reduce
emissions,
so
we
don't
simply
displace
PC
jobs
with
greater
emissions
and
other
jurisdictions.
G
Our
clean
BC
incentive
program
for
industry
does
that
by
rewarding
companies
and
industries
that
have
world-leading
low
carbon
intensity
processes
and
our
our
industry
fund
also
invests
in
diversifying
B
C's
tech
sector
and
applying
that
to
reducing
emissions
throughout
DC's
traditional
industries,
as
well
as
creating
technologies
that
can
be
used
here
in
BC
and
exported
elsewhere,
helping
to
build
B,
C's
economy
and
diversify
it.
Thank
You.
F
You,
mr.
speaker
and
yes,
absolutely,
the
BC
Green
caucus
was
very
happy
to
participate
and
and
provide
provide
ideas
for
clean
BC.
Unfortunately,
it's
it
should
be
the
program
that
we're
using
going
forward,
rather
than
being
used
to
provide
the
the
basis
for
the
expansion
of
the
fossil
fuel
industry.
That's
exactly
what
my
questions
are
about,
because
building
a
low-carbon,
innovative
economy
won't
happen
overnight,
but
it
also
won't
happen
if
we
are
aligning
policies
to
support
the
type.
F
If
we're
not
aligning
this
the
type
of
policies
that
will
support
the
type
of
innovation
that
will
get
us
there,
we
can't
do
both
things.
We
can't
say
that
we're
in
a
transition,
while
also
investing
taxpayer
money
into
LNG.
This
is
especially
true
with
programs
like
clean
bc's
industrial
incentive
program,
which
the
minister
mentioned
when
it's
used
as
a
loophole
that
allows
the
fossil
fuel
sector
to
actually
expand
in
this
province,
we're
moving
further
away
from
the
transition
not
closer
to
the
Minister
of
Environment
and
climate
change.
G
You
honorable
speaker
into
the
member
I've,
explained
the
principle
behind
the
Clean
BC
industrial
incentive,
whether
it
applies
to
the
gas
industry,
the
steel
industry,
the
our
sorry,
the
the
metallurgical
coal
industry,
the
aluminium
industry
or
the
pulp
and
paper
industry.
We
don't
see
a
successful
climate
plan
in
BC
being
one
that
sheds
jobs
while
not
creating
new
jobs
and
diversifying
our
economy,
and
that
is
at
the
fundamental
root
of
the
incentive
program.
G
H
Thank
You
mr.
speaker
on
January
30th
2018,
the
Environment
Minister
attended
an
anti
pipelines
strategy
group
meeting
on
Bowen
Island
in
attendance
were
a
Karin
Mahone
Mike
Kadima,
Sen
bigs
and
Zipporah
Berman
of
Stan
dot
Earth.
All
who
today
are
encouraging
illegal
blockades
to
quote
shut
down
Canada
two
years
ago.
The
ministry
refused
to
answer
this
question.
Will
he
now
disavow
the
statements
of
his
friends
that
supports
conflict
and
illegal
activity.
C
You,
honorable
speaker
and
once
again,
I,
find
it
really
surprising
that
an
opposition
at
this
particular
point
in
our
in
in
what's
facing
us
right
now,
as
a
nation,
not
just
here
in
British
Columbia
right
across
this
country,
wants
to
try
and
drag
people
and
wants
to
try
and
tear
down
individuals
because
they're
saying,
oh,
you
once
worked
with
this
organization.
You
once
work
with
this
group.
Well,
it's
it's!
It's
kind
of
interesting
that
they're
doing
us,
because,
because
I
want
to
remind
them,
honorable
speaker
I
want
to
remind
them
members.
C
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
honorable
speaker,
I'd,
like
to
remind
them
because
they
ask
the
questions.
They
ask
the
questions
and
you
know
they
talked
about
the
Sierra
Club
and
I'd
like
to
remind
them
that
they
worked
with
the
Sierra
Club.
They
worked
with
the
Sierra
Club
in
December
2016,
for
new
regulations
about
the
Great
Bear
Rainforest.
C
C
C
H
You
Thank
You
mr.
speaker,
I,
want
to
remind
the
minister
that
these
radical
activists
have
blocked
BC
Ferries
and
they
blocked
this
legislature.
They
block
rail
lines,
they
block
companies.
They
were
sitting
outside
of
the
premiers
home
just
yesterday
as
well.
We
will
stand
up
for
law
and
order.
Unlike
that
side,.
B
H
These
are
very,
very
easy
question
answer
mr.
speaker
and
the
Minister
will
not
get
up
an
answer.
Let
me
remind
the
minister
of
the
Bowen
Island
strategy
group
document
that
we
revealed
to
this
house
two
years
ago.
It
describes
a
structure
of
hives
and
swarms
that
are
quote
organized
to
see,
sees
a
specific
political
moment
and
support
mass
popular
resistance,
and
quote
for
two
years
now
the
Environment
Minister
normalized
discussions
with
radicals
who
want
to
shut
down
Canada's
resource
industry.
C
I
Now
you
mr.speaker
inflame
the
situation,
it's
too
late
for
that
members
and
us
I'd
already.
Did
it
we're
not
the
ones
that
signed
anti
LNG
declarations
that
side
of
the
house
did
it
we're
not
the
ones
that
made
comments,
destabilize
elected
bank
councils
and
BC
members
and
outside
made
those
statements?
I
It
was
Christy
Clark
that
finally
listened
to
us
and
said:
ok,
we'll
look
at
it,
won't
fall
off
for
you,
but
all
we
get
is
posturing
and
politics
from
a
government
that
historically
has
been
playing
both
sides
of
this
issue
and
stuck
in
the
middle,
our
average
average
aboriginals.
My
question
is
to
the
Environment
Minister:
will
he
denounced
the
Eco
core
newest
actions
of
these
radical
groups
and
get
Canada
back
on
track.
C
You
no
speaker
and
I
appreciate
the
the
question
from
the
member.
Nobody
on
this
side
of
the
house
supports
illegal
demonstrations
or
blockages.
We
have
made
that
clear
and
the
police
are
doing
their
job
on
that.
But
I'd
also
like
to
remind
the
member
that
it
was
this
side
of
the
house
but
brought
that
project
to
fruition.
B
C
The
very
first
day
remembers
from
the
very
first
day
from
members
from
the
very
first
day
that
that
project
was
successfully
announced
and
delivered
by
this
government
that
side.
The
house
did
not
like
that
one
little
bit
because
honorable
speaker,
we
recognized
the
opportunity.
We
recognized
the
opportunity
that
it
brings
to
that
members.
Writing.
We
recognized
the
opportunity
that
it
brings
for
northern
British
Columbia
to
create
training
for
indigenous
peoples
to
create
apprenticeship
opportunities
to
create
business
opportunities.
C
B
H
I
Enhancer
all
your
statements
that
you
made
an
emergency
debate
in
the
summer
of
what
was
it
2015,
everything
you
said
is
on
the
record.
You
also
mentioned
going
up
to
meet
with
her
Teresa
and
I,
asked
his
question
last
time.
How
many
of
you,
at
the
same
time,
went
to
visit
elected
chiefs,
who
are
not
bad
people
that
have
been
demonized
in
the
press
that
had
been
destabilized
be
because
of
remarks
that
came
from
outside
of
the
house,
and
now
you
want
to
try
to
fix
the
situation.
I
E
E
We
are
facing
a
very
serious
situation
in
this
province
in
this
country
and,
as
it's
been
mentioned
already,
we
support
the
right
of
peaceful
protests,
but
the
disruption
of
the
country's
rail
systems
infrastructure,
it's
a
serious
impact
on
the
economy
and
on
people's
lives
and-
and
we
all
get
that
and
we
all
need
to
be
working
together.
There
is
a
project
that
has
been
received.
It's
permits
has
its
environmental
assessment
process
in
place
spanning
two
governments.
Honorable
speaker,
the
project
is
underway.
E
We
are
working
to
try
to
de-escalate
the
issues
that
are
before
us
panel,
speaker
I.
It
was
mentioned
I've
traveled
up
to
meet
with
with
so
it's
an
hereditary
Chiefs,
it's
more
than
once
I'm
working
closely
with
my
federal
counterpart,
Minister
Bennett
I
met
with
her
on
Monday
we've
offered,
both
of
ourselves
to
be
there
at
the
drop
of
a
hat.
E
To
de-escalate
to
draw
to
deliver
these
issues,
we
were
able
to
work
with
the
Gibson
hereditary
chief
Norman
Stephen,
who
have
made
a
wonderful
offer
to
and
which
we
accepted
and
through
dialogue,
we're
able
to
deescalate
the
rail
blockade.
New
Hazleton
and
I
want
to
thank
hereditary
chief
Norman
Stephen
for
that
show
of
good
faith
and
that's
the
kind
of
work.
We
need
anima
statement
to
overcome
these
serious
issues
and
not
the
acrimony.
That's
going
back
and
forth
and
trying
to
catch
blame
where,
where
there
may
be
no
blame,
audible,
speaker.