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From YouTube: NOVEMBER 4 2021 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
2nd Session
42nd Parliament
C
C
C
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
and
I
appreciate
the
question
from
the
member
and
I
do
understand
the
concerns
that
families
have,
but
I
heard
a
lot
yesterday
from
the
members
of
opposite
and
today
about
how
families
have
struggled
to
put
together
a
package
of
care
for
their
children
and
youth
families.
Shouldn't
have
to
be
the
ones
who
have
to
struggle
for
years,
wait
for
a
diagnosis
and
put
that
package
together.
Our
government
is
here
to
support
families
and
that's
what
we
will
be
doing.
C
Well,
with
due
respect
to
the
minister,
it's
not
about
families
having
to
significant
difference
and
that's
part
of
the
problem
here,
it's
that
parents
want
to
and
in
fact
they're
capable
of
doing
exactly
the
things
they
have
been
doing
for
years
to
ensure
that
their
children
are
well
supported.
The
minister
wants
to
change
that
yesterday.
She
basically
said
in
this
house
that
government
knows
better
than
parents
and
what
parents
are
saying.
B
C
I
would
suggest
that
members
opposite
might
want
to
open
their
email
boxes
and
read
the
stories
of
parents
who
said
exactly
that
about
the
answers
that
were
given
in
this
house
yesterday.
Carla
also
said
that
her
family
believes
that
the
behaviors
in
her
grandchildren
have
a
reason
and
that
they're
not
bad.
C
C
This
mcfd
framework
is
very
patronizing
and
it
fails
to
recognize
the
strength
that
families
bring
to
the
table.
I
am
very
capable
of
managing
my
grandson's
autism
programs.
End
quote
it's
not
that
parents
have
to
do
this.
It's
that
parents
want
to
do
this,
and
it
is
that
parents
across
british
columbia
are
begging
this
minister
to
reconsider
her
claw
back
and
allow
them
to
continue
to
design
the
programs
that
will
best
support
their
children.
Will
she
do
that
today?.
D
Oh,
thank
you,
honourable
speaker.
I
understand
that
parents
are
experts
in
the
lives
of
their
children
and
their
families,
but
when
the
pandemic
hit,
we
saw
that
so
many
services
just
stopped
and
those
families
were
abandoned.
They
had
no
services
that
they
had
of
the
packages
of
care
they
had
put
together.
There
was
no
way
for
government
to
help.
We
under
the
new
framework
will
be
building
a
public
system
that
will
create
a
safety
net
and
we'll
be
supporting
all
all
families
with
neurodiverse
children.
D
E
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
With
all
due
respect
to
the
minister,
I
don't
believe
that
hub
services
would
have
been
available
during
the
pandemic
either.
So
I've
heard
that
as
a
as
a
reason
which
does
not
make
sense.
Yesterday
the
minister
said
that.
B
E
Yesterday
the
minister
said
that
parents
quote:
don't
have
the
capacity
or
the
time
to
manage
services
and
with
the
individualized
funding
there
was
no
accountability.
End
quote,
parents
are
watching
and
are
outraged.
Corrine
heisler
says,
and
I
quote,
I
have
three
children
two
with
autism.
They
are
my
priority
and
I
deserve
to
have
choice.
E
D
You,
honourable
speaker,
I
understand
that
parents
are
experts
in
the
lives
of
their
children
and
families,
but
what
happened
when
the
pandemic
hit
was
that
those
services
were
no
longer
available
for
those
families.
Government
services
continued
to
function.
We
have
social
workers
who
continue
to
drive
us.
B
D
There
was
no
way
for
government
to
help
those
families.
There
was
no
safety
net.
There
was
no
public
system.
Under
the
new
framework.
It
will
be
possible
for
government
to
continue
supporting
those
families
even
in
times
of
a
global
pandemic
and
through
the
new
system,
families
will
co-create
the
care
plan
for
their
child
and
youth.
They
will
be
working
with
support
to
be
able
to
make
sure
the
needs
of
their
child
and
youth
are
met.
E
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
again
with
respect
to
the
minister.
I
know
firsthand
that
those
government
services
supporting
young
people
with
autism
ended.
They
were
government
services
ended
during
the
pandemic.
Heather
and
ray
harrison
watched
the
minister's
answers
yesterday.
Mr
speaker,
this
is
what
they
had
to
say
and
I
quote
I
want
to
correct
the
minister.
Most
of
us
want
to
manage
our
kids
service
providers.
E
I
don't
begrudge
the
minister
offering
an
option
for
families
who
want
this,
but
I
am
vehemently
opposed
to
having
my
right
to
decide
on
the
treatment
and
therapies
of
my
own
children.
Taken
away
from
me
against
my
will.
Unquote,
no
one
is
saying
not
to
expand
services
not
to
support
children
with
fasd
with
down
syndrome.
They're
saying
don't
destroy
what
already
exists.
B
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
children
and
youth
with
support
needs
get
the
services
that
they
need.
That's
what's
important.
Our
government
is
making
choices
of
investing
in
services
for
children
and
youth,
as
opposed
to
the
other
side
that
gutted
my
ministry
honorable
speaker.
So
many
parents
tell
me
that
their
children
are
forced
to
wait
for
years
because
they
have
to
wait
for
a
diagnosis
to
unlock
services.
D
Children
can't
wait
we're
going
to
build
a
system
that
responds
to
the
needs
of
children
earlier,
so
children
with
autism
will
continue
to
receive
services.
Their
families
will
be
supported
through
this
transition
and
children
with
other
diagnoses
and
other
needs
will
also
get
services
and
they've
been
locked
out
of
the
system,
and
children
with
autism
will
no
longer
have
to
wait
for
a
diagnosis.
They
will
get
services
earlier.
F
Thank
you
anvil
speaker.
In
the
last
year,
parents
in
canada
gave
their
kids
more
than
10
billion
dollars
in
down
payment
help.
On
average
parents
gave
82
000
dollars
to
help
their
kids
buy
a
house,
but
fewer
than
30
percent
of
first-time
homebuyers
got
this
help
it's
a
lot
of
money.
I
know
that
every
parent
would
want
to
help
their
child
if
they
could,
especially
in
a
housing
market
as
out
of
reach
as
bcs,
where
it
can
take
35
years
to
save
for
a
down
payment.
F
F
Those
with
well-off
parents
are
likely
to
benefit
from
theirs
their
parents
wealth,
but
those
without
family
wealth
are
priced
out
of
the
home
market.
My
question
for
you,
honourable
speakers,
to
the
attorney
general
and
minister
of
housing.
Does
this
government
have
a
stance
on
the
role
and
impact
of
intergenerational
wealth
in
the
housing
market.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
speaker,
and
I
appreciate
the
members,
the
members
question
and
addressing
affordability
here
in
british
columbia,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
the
housing
market.
It
continues
to
be
a
priority
for
our
government.
We've
taken
significant
steps
in
our
first
few
years
in
government
to
bring
stability
to
the
housing
market.
G
We've
had
some
positive
results,
certainly
we've
seen
through
the
pandemic
increased
volatility
in
the
market,
and
that's
why,
honourable
speaker,
one
of
the
things
we
did
after
our
re-election
was
to
invest
two
billion
dollars
in
the
housing
hub
to
bring
affordable
home
ownership.
G
F
Thank
you,
honorable
speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
minister
for
listing
these
things,
but
it
hasn't
actually
answered
the
question
that
I
asked
it's
great
that
some
families
are
able
to
help
their
kids
out,
but
the
reality
is
it.
Is
it
isn't
an
option
for
many
british
colombians
racialized
british
colombians,
for
example,
tend
to
earn
less,
are
less
likely
to
receive
income
from
capital
gains
and
investments
and
are
more
likely
to
be
housing
disadvantaged.
F
We
lack
race-based
data
and
I
know
government
is
currently
holding
an
engagement
period
on
that,
but
even
without
the
data,
it's
not
a
stretch
to
infer
that
bc's
overblown
housing
market.
Intergenerational
wealth
is
a
key
factor
and
racialized
british
columbians
are
being
left
behind
through
you
again,
honourable
speaker,
to
the
attorney
general
and
minister
of
housing.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
speaker.
Well,
and
I
appreciate
the
members
question
and
she
said
we
are
gathering
the
data
to
better
understand
how
to
address
the
situation,
and
I
know
that
the
member
appreciates
good
data
so
that
work
is
being
undertaken.
But
I
want
to
I
want
to
provide
members
of
the
house
with
with
an
example
of
how
the
housing
hub
is
working.
Morgan
is
a
27
year
old
works
in
nonprofit
and
has
a
university
degree
stable
income.
A
partner
has
some
savings.
G
Owning
a
home
was
just
actually
very,
very
difficult
for
her
and
her
partner
and
last
summer,
morgan
found
a
partnership
with
bc,
housing
and
charter
development
that
would
match
buyers,
some
form
of
down
payment
on
a
pre-sale
condo
and
as
part
of
the
housing
hub
with
support.
I
was
able
to
get
more
support
for
the
other
part
of
the
down
payment,
and
you
know
what
that
meant
for
her.
Mr
speaker,
it
meant
that
the
down
payment
matching
program
changed
everything
for
her,
and
this
is
a
quote.
She
said
I
couldn't
believe
it.
A
Let's
be
clear
if
you
were
a
parent
of
a
child
with
down
syndrome,
if
you
are
a
parent
of
a
child
with
fasd,
and
if
you
were
a
parent
of
a
child
with
deluxe
dyslexia,
you
want
your
child
to
have
support
no
parent
or
this
opposition
is
against
more
support
for
our
children
down
syndrome.
Bc
really
down
syndrome
bc
calls
the
minister's
announcement
a
slap
in
the
face,
and
I
quote:
mcfd
is
proposing
another
version
of
top-down
support
services
in
which
families
often
receive
lower
standards
of
care
and
long
wait
lists.
We
know
from
experience.
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
I
know
from
talking
to
very
many
families
across
the
whole
of
the
province
that
actually
this
change
can't
come
soon
enough.
There
are
families
with
children
with
neurodiverse
needs
and
other
support
needs
who
have
not
been
able
to
access
services.
Of
course
they
want
to
do
the
best
for
their
children
and
it's
a
patchwork
of
programs,
that's
very
difficult
for
them
to
navigate
and
services
in
many
parts
of
the
province
simply
aren't
there.
D
This,
this
important
area
of
need
in
our
province
was
under
invested
for
so
many
years,
and
our
government,
since
2017,
has
been
making
investments
in
every
single
budget,
which
is
a
demonstration
of
our
commitment
to
children
and
families
who
need
our
services,
and
I
think,
of
the
many
families
who
I
know
who
have
come
and
spoken
to
me
and
who
have
said
this.
Change
cannot
come
fast
enough.
A
Kathy
mcmillan
founding
member
of
dyslexia
bc
says
the
dyslexia
community
does
not
feel
included
in
this
minister's
plans.
Tamara
taggart
of
down
syndrome
bc
says,
and
I
quote,
instead
of
providing
adequate
funding
from
the
start,
the
ministry
makes
families
in
the
disability
community
compete
against
each
other
and
fight
for
access
to
any
support.
D
D
Having
worked
in
the
field
for
30
years
myself,
honorable
speaker,
I
know
that
delivering
services
through
a
multi-disciplinary
team
is
a
is
the
best
quality
approach
for
successful
outcomes
for
children
and
youth.
We
know
that
that
collaborative
process
bringing
together
lots
of
different
expertise
and
perspectives
to
work
with
families
and
work
with
families
and
co-create
that
care
plan
is
the
way
that's
going
to
support
those
children
and
youth
and
create
successful
outcomes
for
them.
H
H
This
is
what
parent
k
banez
says,
and
I
quote
I
was
greatly
dismayed
to
hear
the
mlas,
who
were
heckling,
the
member
for
richmond
center.
While
she
was
reading
the
plight
of
a
mother.
The
hecklers
do
not
realize
how
demeaning
and
demoralizing
for
the
parents
a
mother
to
hear
this,
as
this
was
their
voice.
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
We
will
be
listening
to
families.
We
have
been
listening
to
families.
I
hear
from
families
every
day,
honorable
speaker
and
for
30
years.
I've
worked
with
with
vulnerable
families
as
well.
We
will
continue
to
be
listening
to
families
as
we
develop
the
framework
and
the
implementation
of
the
framework
and
we're
delivering
this
new
service
in
two
areas
as
early
implementation
sites
and
we'll
be
listening
to
families
receiving
those
services
and
incorporating
their
feedback
as
we
move
forward.
D
But
honourable
speaker,
we've
seen
not
only
with
the
pandemic,
but
we've
been
hearing
from
families
for
years
that
the
existing
services
are
just
a
patchwork,
they're
difficult
to
navigate
and
in
many
parts
of
the
province,
services
aren't
available
and
we
saw
with
the
pandemic
that
they're
just
they're
just
gone
in
in
times
of
of
a
pandemic.
Honourable
speaker,
we've
also
heard
from
the
representative
for
children
and
youth
and
she's
been
listening
to
families.
D
She's
brought
their
voices,
not
just
families
where
their
children,
for
example,
have
a
diagnosis
of
autism
but
families
where
their
children
have
a
diagnosis
of
fetal
alcohol
spectrum
disorder
as
well,
and
families
with
other
neurodiverse
children
too,
and
the
legislative
committee
on
children
and
youth
also
listen
to
families
and
we've
heard
the
recommendations
from
that
committee
as
well.
Our
commitment
is
to
be
putting
children
and
youth
at
the
center
and
wrapping
services
with
families
around
them
and
that's
what
we'll
be
doing
in
the
new
system.
H
You,
mr
speaker,
the
minister
suggests
that
government
services
continue
during
the
pandemic,
and
here
is
what
parent
heather
harrison
wants
the
minister
to
know-
and
I
quote,
these
service
providers
did
their
absolute
best
under
terrible
and
unprecedented
circumstances.
During
the
pandemic,
they
were
working
under
strict
guidelines
from
the
government
to
not
be
physically
with
other
people.
H
D
You,
honourable
speaker,
well
honorable
speaker,
we
heard
from
very
many
families
during
the
pandemic
that
their
support
systems
actually
were
no
longer
available.
We
implemented
emergency
measures
to
be
able
to
support
families
with
children.
Youth
with
support
needs
one
of
the
things
that
families
told
us
was
that
they
wanted
more
flexibility
with
raspite,
and
so
we
provided
that
honorable
speaker.
D
So,
for
example,
a
family
told
me
that
they
they
used
the
funds
to
buy
a
freezer,
because
then
that
meant
that
they
didn't
have
to
go
to
the
grocery
store
so
often,
and
that
took
a
burden
off
the
moment.
They
had
more
quality
family
time
together.
Another
family
paid
for
housekeeping
again,
so
that
the
parent
could
spend
more
quality
time
as
a
mum
with
her
family
and
not
burdened
by
the
stress
and
strain
of
running
family
and
having
children.
Youth
with
support
needs.
Honourable
speaker,
we've
actually
made
that
change
permanent
as
well.
I
River
north.
Thank
you
honorable
speaker.
Yesterday,
the
minister
and
today
the
minister
is
trying
to
tell
everybody
that
the
clawbacks
will
make
things
better,
but
families
from
across
the
province
and
you've
all
heard
all
of
us
in
this
room
have
heard
the
same
emails
that
it
is
going
to
make
things
worse.
I
This
is
what
joel
says,
and
I
quote
the
minister's
answers
are
simply
not
good
enough.
Our
daughter
is
severely
autistic
as
a
family.
In
the
north,
we
put
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
personal
resources
to
create
a
community
of
therapy
support
families
in
gitwangek,
fort
nelson
anaheim
lake
and
mcbride
shouldn't
be
forced
to
travel
yet
further
distances
to
access
the
resources
that
they
desperately
need.
End
quote:
can
the
minister
tell
joel
why
she's
climbed
back
his
child
services
and
making
it
harder
to
get
new
ones.
B
D
B
D
D
D
We're
also
investing
10
million
dollars
in
the
at
home
program.
That's
for
children's
equipment,
so
they
can
have
a
have
a
regular
daily
life
with
their
family,
so
braces,
for
example,
adapted
beds,
for
example,
so
that
they
have
a
good
quality
of
family
life.
Honorable
speaker-
and
this
is
honourable
speaker
I
will
say
in
comparison
to
when
I
was
delivering
services
when
the
other
side
were
in
government
and
we
were
seeing
cut
backs
across
my
community.
J
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Well,
the
minister
may
want
to
characterize
it
as
a
patchwork
of
care.
Parents
consider
that
individualized
care
for
each
of
their
child's
special
circumstances
that
they
need
to
get
the
proper
care
they
need
to
properly
support
their
child,
and
that
is
what
they
want
to
see
continue
on.
Families
and
experts
are
worried
about
lining
up
at
hub
centers,
just
like
they
have
to
line
up
the
walk-in
clinics.
J
Currently
wanda
eddy
of
the
chris
rose
therapy
center
for
autism
says,
and
I
quote:
if
we're
looking
at
a
hub,
is
everyone
going
to
have
access
to
them?
Somebody
in
a
smaller
community
get
services
in
that
smaller
community.
Now,
if
you're
going
to
a
hub,
what
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
traveling
and
those
kinds
of
things?
End
quote,
as
we
just
heard
communities
in
northern
bc
and
in
the
interior
have
very
long
distances
to
try
to
drive
to
get
to
a
hub,
not
exactly
conducive.
J
When
you
have
a
child
that
maybe
doesn't
like
to
travel
very
easily
when
it
comes
to
parents
with
children
with
special
needs.
That
is
the
last
thing
they
want
to
see.
There
is
already
a
shortage
of
trained
specialists.
This
is
going
to
exasperate
that
issue.
When
will
the
minister
end
this
claw
back
and
provide
the
proper
supports
to
families
that
they
need?
J
D
The
services
will
be
delivered
in
ways
in
the
community
by
the
community
with
knowledge
of
the
community
and
could
involve
a
range
of
methods
of
delivering
services,
not
just
a
center,
but
also
satellite
services,
virtual
services
and
outreach
services
as
well,
because
we've
heard
from
families
that
we
know
that
it's
difficult
for
them
to
travel,
to
get
to
see
specialist
services.
And
so
we
are
listening
to
families.
We'll
continue
to
listen
to
families
and
and
design.
J
J
J
What
the
parents
with
kids
with
autism
are
saying
is
that
those
kids
shouldn't
have
their
system
blowing
up
to
add
extra
capacity
to
the
system.
When
will
this
minister
end
this
ridiculous,
claw
back
and
actually
start
providing
the
proper
supports
to
people
that
they
need
for
their
children
and
their
families.
D
Honorable
speaker,
honorable
speaker,
for
far
too
long,
parents
have
been
telling
our
ministry
that
it's
a
patchwork
of
programming
out
there,
that
services
aren't
available
and
they're
not
able
to
get
the
services
for
their
children
and
youth
with
neurodiverse
needs
across
the
province,
and
they
tell
us
that
they
have
to
wait
for
too
long
for
a
diagnosis
for
their
children.
Children
in
british
columbia
deserve
services
at
the
time
that
their
parents
are
concerned
about
them
as
early
as
possible
to
be
able
to
help
them
develop
from
as
early
in
age
as
possible.
D
We
need
to
move
to
a
needs-based
approach.
We've
been
told
that
by
families
by
advocates
by
community
agencies
by
service
providers,
the
representative
for
children
and
youth
and
many
many
others
indeed
yeah
the
member
for
vancouver
for
vancouver
west
capilano,
has
also
expressed
agreement
with
the
needs-based
system.
So
we
will
continue
to
deliver
services
based
on
a
needs-based
system.
We
have
early
implementation
areas
that
we
will
be
evaluating
that
will
inform
our
provincial
rollout
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
honourable
speaker,
more
children
will
receive
services.