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From YouTube: NOVEMBER 24 2021 Question Period
Description
The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
2nd Session
42nd Parliament
B
B
The
legislature
lawn,
was
filled
today
with
families
who
wanted
to
make
sure
that
every
single
mla
in
this
legislature
heard
their
stories.
It
was
that
important
to
them.
Some
of
those
families
are
in
the
gallery
today,
including
roseanne
peterson,
the
parent
of
two
children
on
the
autism
spectrum,
who
are
thriving
under
the
current
system.
B
B
B
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
and
thank
you
to
ella
for
being
here
today.
I
do
understand
the
concerns
of
families
who
currently
have
successful
packages
of
services
for
their
children
with
autism,
and
I
do
want
to
reassure
them
and
all
british
colombians
that
services
will
continue
to
be
provided
to
those
children,
and
we
will
work
with
in
partnership
with
parents
to
make
sure
that
the
unique
needs
of
all
of
these
children
are
met
and
will
be
met.
D
And,
honorable
speaker,
children,
youth
who
have
a
diagnosis
of
autism,
will
receive
services,
and
so
honorable
speaker,
will
children
youth
with
other
diagnoses
who
are
currently
left
behind
and
children.
Youth
who
are
waiting
for
a
diagnosis
of
autism
can
receive
services
rather
than
waiting
for
that
diagnosis.
B
Well,
thank
you,
mr
speaker,
and
the
minister
knows
that
what
she
says
simply
doesn't
address
the
concerns
of
the
parents
that
are
here
today
on
behalf
of
families
across
british
columbia.
The
minister
knows
that,
and
let's
be
perfectly
clear,
these
families,
neither
those
families,
the
opposition,
the
leader
of
the
green
part.
No
one
has
said
that
there
isn't
a
need
to
support
other
families
in
british
columbia.
B
B
B
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
and
it
is
really
important
to
listen
to
families.
Parents
are
experts
in
the
lives
of
their
children
and,
of
course,
parents
who
have
children
with
support
needs
have
been
very
powerful
advocates.
For
the
honourable
speaker
in
2019
we
started
a
consultation
process.
We
spoke
to
thousands
of
people,
advocates
service
providers,
families
and
we
were
gathering
information
and
hearing
stories
of
how
this
the
patchwork
of
programs
doesn't
serve.
D
People
well
and
then
the
pandemic
hit,
and
I
understand
people
pivoted
and
services
and
families
were
just
surviving,
but
we
also
saw
honourable
speaker
even
further
weaknesses
in
the
patchwork
and
and
the
way
of
delivering
some
services
to
some
families
it
for
over
10
years,
we've
been
hearing
from
the
representative
for
children,
youth
as
well,
who
also
has
been
listening
to
families,
and
today
she
issued
a
statement.
Honourable
speaker,
she
says
the
current
cysn
system
does
not
work
for
many
children
with
support
needs
in
their
families
and
must
be
transformed.
D
E
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
The
representative
for
children
and
youth
certainly
had
some
recommendation
in
terms
of
what
has
to
happen
with
the
cysn
framework,
but
nobody
recommended
clawing
back
individualized
funding
and
the
minister
completely
ignores
the
recommendations
that
were
made,
such
as
increasing
service
provider
capacity,
addressing
wait,
lists
for
services
and
assessments
and
support,
diverse
delivery
options
with
family
choice.
E
Now
for
weeks
now,
families
and
advocates
have
been
begging
and
pleading
with
the
ndp
government
to
stop
this
claw
back.
Yet
they
believe
government
is
not
listening
and
their
mlas
are
not
listening.
Now,
the
first
nations
leadership
council
calls
it
quote
a
significant
step
backwards
and
one
which
we
wholly
reject,
like
thousands
of
families
across
bc.
We
unequivocally
reiterate
you
must
stop
the
rollout
of
your
planned
hub
model.
End
quote
so,
mr
speaker.
Will
the
minister
listen
to
indigenous
voices
and
stop
the
claw
back.
C
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker.
We
know
actually
that
in
the
current
patchwork
of
programming
that
indigenous
children,
youth
are
underserved,
we
know
that,
under
the
current
patchwork
of
programming,
many
children
get
left
behind,
especially
indigenous
children
and
youth.
Our
government
is
committed
to
building
a
culturally
safe
trauma-informed
accessible
system,
a
system
of
supports
that
will
wrap
around
each
unique
child
and
we
have
been
consistently
engaging
with
the
first
nations
leadership
council
and
we
will
continue
to
meet
with
indigenous
leaders
and
rights
and
title
holders.
E
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
I'm
not
sure
that
the
minister
has
read
the
letter
that
was
recently
delivered
to
her
and
shared
with
all
members
here
from
the
first
nations
leadership,
council
and
I'll
quote
from
it.
This
these
are
their
words.
It
is
bewildering
to
us
that
in
2021,
given
the
understanding
of
the
legacy
of
residential
schools,
you
could
dream
up
any
proposal
that
involves
increasing
the
role
and
responsibility.
Mr
speaker
of
mcfd,
not
in
my
words
the
words
of
the
first
nations
leadership
council.
E
D
Thank
you,
honorable
speaker,
we're
putting
children
and
youth
at
the
center
of
this
work
and
we're.
We
are
recognizing
that
indigenous
children,
youth
have
been
underserved
for
far
too
long.
We've
started
to
engage
with
indigenous
rights
and
title
holders
and
we'll
continue
that
work.
There
are
many
different
pathways
that
indigenous
communities
can
take.
They
might
want
to
exercise
their
jurisdiction.
D
They
might
want
to
partner
with
an
indigenous
agency
or
work
with
some
other
kind
of
partnership
of
service
delivery
for
their
children
and
youth.
So
we're
going
to
continue
that
really
important
work,
honourable
speaker,
and
we
will
continue
demonstrating
our
commitment
to
making
sure
that
we
tackle
the
over-representation
of
indigenous
children
and
youth
in
the
child
welfare
system
as
well.
Honorable
speaker,
we've
been
working
with
communities.
D
We've
changed
provincial
legislation,
we've
increased
the
funding
to
support
out
of
out
of
care
placements
so
that
children,
youth,
can
stay
connected
to
family
and
to
community
and
to
culture
and
there's
a
lot
more
work
to
do.
But
we
are
committed
to
doing
that
in
this
area.
Serving
children
youth
with
their
support
needs
as
well
as
other
areas
of
need.
F
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
On
monday,
the
minister
of
indigenous
relations
and
reconciliation
thought
my
rhetoric
was
quote
harsh
and
unhelpful,
and
quote
he
blamed
the
disunity
in
the
watson
territory
on
the
wasultan
people,
even
through
the
disun,
even
though
the
disunity
is
rooted
in
the
actions
of
this
crown
government
over
decades,
the
people
in
this
house
know
that
they've
amplified
the
chaos
created
by
the
indian
act.
That's
wholly
disrupted
indigenous
governance
structures
that
took
good
care
of
domestic
and
international
affairs.
F
It's
unhelpful
that
the
minister
scapegoats
indigenous
people
for
the
divisions
that
this
crown
government
policy
deliberately
created
in
our
communities.
The
minister
knows
like
all
the
ministers
before
him.
Indigenous
people
divided
against
each
other
are
challenged
to
be
united
to
do
the
real
historic
work,
reconciling
the
history
of
crown
indigenous
relations.
F
G
You,
honorable
speaker,
and
I
thank
the
member
from
the
for
the
question.
G
I
think
all
of
us
know
that
the
the
work
around
reconciliation
is
is
difficult
and
challenging,
but
what
I
can
tell
him
that
every
minister
in
this
government,
every
member
of
this
government
has
been
actively
working
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
to
work
to
resolve
the
challenges
that
we
face,
whether
it's
with
wet
suit
and
or
other
indigenous
nations
around
this
province.
G
It
is
why
we
introduced
and
unanimously
passed
in
this
house,
the
united
nations
declaration
of
indigenous
peoples,
legislation,
which
is
a
foundation
in
terms
of
reconciliation.
We
know
that
there
are
challenges
they
are
long-standing,
but
I
think
all
of
us
in
this
house
are
committed
to
resolving
them.
F
F
Continues
to
advance
and
defend
a
resource
colony
mentality.
Mr
speaker,
it
was
the
minister
of
indigenous
relations
in
the
1990s
who
suggested
that
when
he
was
a
provincial
negotiator
suggested
that
we'd
want
to
leverage
residential
school
healing
funds.
To
quote
sweeten
the
deal.
End
quote
for
indigenous
nations
to
sign
these
rights
extinguishing
treaties-
and
you
know
as
we're
talking
about
this
right
now.
Mr
speaker,
as
I'm
asking
this
question
fully.
F
This
government
is
still
acting
like
that
19th
century
century
resource
colony.
The
minister
of
indigenous
relations
is
okay,
apparently
with
us
utilizing
an
injunction
process
that
has
elevated
a
corporation's
potential
economic
losses
over
indigenous
rights.
F
It's
deliberate,
mr
speaker.
This
province
has
always
used
the
rcmp
to
protect
corporate
interests,
and
on
monday
it
was
the
minister
who
was
offended
by
me.
Raising
these
questions
through
you,
mr
speaker,
to
the
minister
of
indigenous
relations
and
reconciliation,
same
question
that
I
asked
in
my
first
question
from
his
perspective.
G
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker,
and
I
give
the
and
I
thank
the
member
for
the
question,
and
I
will
reiterate
the
answer
that
this
house,
this
government
is
committed
to
reconciliation.
This
house,
this.
This
government
is
committed
to
to
ensuring
the
implementation
of
the
rights
of
indigenous
people
through
that
legislation.
G
G
We
are,
we
are
continuing
that
work
and
we'll
continue
that
work,
and
I'd
remind
the
member
that
this
that
this
takes
place.
In
the
context
of,
of
course,
who
have
a
role
of
this
house
that
has
a
role.
H
Thank
you,
mr
speaker.
Well
earlier
we
heard
the
minister
quote
a
statement
from
the
representative
of
children
and
youth
and
I'm
not
sure
if
she
was
reading
from
the
same
statement
that
came
out
today
for
immediate
release
or
not,
but
let's
take
another
look
at
that.
It
also
says.
Sadly,
the
announcement
has
resulted
in
uncertainty,
fear,
anxiety
and
stress
for
many
families.
H
Mr
speaker,
parents
are
rightly
worried
about
this
minister's.
Just
trust
me
attitude.
A
government
document
shows
the
government
has
zero
plans
to
increase
resources
for
children
with
diverse
needs.
In
fact,
it
says,
and
I
quote,
based
on
the
ministry's
research,
the
current
complement
of
professionals
will
make
up
the
professionals
in
the
new
system.
H
End
quote
the
government's
not
even
planning
on
adding
any
more
professionals.
Mr
speaker,
this
is
what
the
speech
and
hearing
bc
people
have
to
say,
and
I
quote
we
are
concerned
with
the
n
e
p
government's
response
that
suggests
there
are
enough
skilled
professionals
to
meet
the
demand
for
service
in
these
new
hubs.
End
quote,
mr
speaker:
how
can
the
minister
possibly
tell
parents
in
the
gallery
and
on
the
front
lawn
today
that
not
only
there's
already
enough
service
providers,
but
the
system
can
handle
up
to
ten
thousand
more
children
into
it
all
at
once,.
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker.
What
the
representative
says
is
it's
time
to
step
back,
to
address
the
uncertainty
and
fears
and
ensure
clear
information
is
available
to
families
and
advocates,
while
not
losing
sight
of
the
need
to
build
a
much
better
system
of
care
for
children
and
youth
with
support
needs?
Honourable
speaker,
I
have
heard
from
a
lot
of
families,
and
I
understand
that
there
is
concern
and
anxiety
in
the
community
and
starting
from
monday
next
week.
D
Honorable
speaker,
there
are
lots
of
engagement
sessions
for
families
and
for
service
providers
to
be
having
conversations
with
ministry
staff
to
hear
and
understand
more
detail
about
what
the
new
system
will
look
like
it's
going
to
be
delivered
by
community
for
community
in
community,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
having
those
conversations
to
make
sure
that
we're
delivering
a
system
or
a
a
safety
net
system
of
supports.
That's
based
on
needs.
D
So
children
and
youth
in
their
community
will
be
able
to
access
services
and
in
a
timely
way,
honorable
speaker,
so
that
they're
not
held
back
waiting
for
a
diagnosis
but
as
soon
as
a
parent
has
a
concern
for
their
child
or
an
elder
in
the
community,
or
a
a
teacher
at
kindergarten
that
child
will
be
able
to
access
services
and
their
unique
needs
will
be
identified
and
a
team
of
multi-disciplinary
professionals
as
required
will
be
wrapped
around
to
deliver
services
in
partnership
with
those
parents.
In
order
to
help
that
unique
child
achieve
their
goals.
A
You
very
much,
mr
speaker,
wendy
duke,
is
a
speech
language
pathologist,
and
she
says
that
the
government
actually
didn't
consult
with
practitioners
prior
to
this
announcement,
and
she
says-
and
I
quote,
given
the
shortage
of
therapists
in
this
province,
where
the
heck
is
this
government
going
to
come
up
with
the
probably
hundreds
of
clinicians
needed
for
these
programs
they're
not
going
to
get
that
resolved
in
three
years.
End
quote
so.
D
Thank
you,
honorable
speaker,
and
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
I
I
appreciate
that
there
are
some
highly
professional
service
providers
out
there
across
the
whole
of
our
province.
I
want
to
thank
them
for
all
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
I've
met
with
many
of
them
as
well,
and
I've
been
hearing
from
them,
and
many
service
providers
actually
already
deliver
services
to
children,
youth
pre-diagnosis
because
they're
they
are
being
presented
with
needs
and
they're
telling
us
that
they
are
looking
forward
to
building
capacity.
D
They
can
see
how
a
multi-disciplinary
team
approach
is
successful
for
families
and
and
they're
excited
that
in
their
community
they're,
going
to
see
a
pathway
forward
of
building
capacity
and
building
services.
Again
the
the
statement
made
by
the
representative
for
children
and
youth
today
she
says
he's
representative
for
children
and
youth.
I
have
long
been
calling
for
a
fundamental.
C
D
In
the
cysm
system,
I'm
in
favor
of
the
long-term
direction,
as
laid
out
by
minister
dean.
In
particular,
I
support
the
shift
towards
a
needs-based
rather
than
a
diagnostically
driven
cysn
system.
This
shift
will
enable
children
to
receive
timely
supports
based
on
assessed
developmental
needs,
even
before
they
receive
a
diagnosis
which
currently
can
take
many
years.
I
also
support
the
intention
to
enhance
community-based
access
to
a
diverse
array
of
care
and
supports
from
infancy
through
to
young
adulthood,
and
that's
what
we're
doing
honourable
speaker.
I
Now
thanks
honorable
speaker,
hopefully
I
get
an
answer
to
my
question
this
afternoon.
Katie
mccready
is
the
parent
of
an
older
child
with
autism.
Here
in
victoria.
She
says
that
her
child's
conditions
do
not
disappear
at
18
years
old.
Honorable
speaker,
parents
now
have
no
idea
what
is
going
to
happen
as
their
children
grow
older
without
new
resources
in
place.
I
The
big
question
mark
is
what
will
happen
to
youth
with
diverse
needs
who
age
out
of
the
ministry
of
children
and
families
and
move
into
the
care
of
community
live
in
bc?
Under
the
minister
of
social
development
with
the
minister,
children
and
families
ill
thought
out,
plan
we've
heard
nothing
from
the
minister
of
social
development.
D
We
know
that
there's
a
patchwork
of
programming
that
is
leaving
too
many
children
behind,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
we're
making
sure
that
children,
youth
with
support,
needs
as
soon
as
an
issue
is
identified,
they'll
be
able
to
receive
services.
Now
the
question
of
a
diagnosis
is,
it
can
be
a
good
tool.
C
D
Of
this
system,
that's
going
to
better
serve
children.
Youth
across
british
columbia
does
not
have
an
impact
further
down
the
line
on
on
services
as
adults,
children
are
new
welcome
children.
Youth
will
continue
to
be
supported
as
they
are
current
in
the
current
system.
Children
youth
will
continue
to
be
supported
by
support
workers
from
our
ministry
to
make
sure
that
a
transition
into
another
system
is
successful.
J
J
D
Thank
you,
honourable
speaker.
It
is
really
important
to
be
listening
to
families
and
all
the
way
in
the
journey
of
supporting
and
serving
children
and
youth.
We
will
always
continue
to
listen
with
work
with
partner
with
families.
Honourable
speaker,
we
started
our
consultation
with
families
in
2019
and
then
the
pandemic
hit,
and
we
saw
in
2020
even
more
woefully
the
inadequacy
of
the
way
that
programming
was
delivered.
We
are
continuing
our
engagement
with
families.
D
Honourable
speaker,
there
are
engagement
sessions
that
families
are
able
to
take
part
in
starting
on
monday
next
week
and
as
we
roll
out
the
early
implementation
areas,
we'll
also
be
doing
evaluations
and
hearing
from
families
there
as
well.
I
just
want
to
just
restate
our
commitment,
children
and
youth
who
need
services
will
receive
services.
They
will
receive
them
based
on
their
needs
and
in
a
timely
way.
A
As
a
black
woman,
the
hub
will
she's
worried
that
the
hub
will
exacerbate
the
bias
and
discrimination
that
many
feel
when
interacting
with
the
provincial
government
having
the
ability
to
put
her
child's
interests.
First,
she
has
created
a
system
that
works
for
the
family
in
a
culturally
sensitive
way.
Can
the
minister
explain
to
nicole
how
the
hub
system
can
possibly
know
her
child's
needs
better
than
she
does.
D
Oh,
thank
you
honorable
speaker.
It
is
absolutely
vital
that
we
put
children
and
youth
at
the
center
of
our
service
provision
and
and
we
will
make
sure
that
the
unique
needs
of
all
children
youth
are
recognized
in
the
system.
Honorable
speaker,
that
includes
all
personal
and
unique
lived
experiences
and
identity
as
well.
D
Honourable
speaker
and
the
members
asked
earlier
on
about
indigenous
children
use,
so
we
will
absolutely
make
sure,
as
I've
said,
that
we're
going
to
create
indigenous
an
indigenous
pathway
for
services
to
be
delivered
in
indigenous
communities
in
in
ways
that
indigenous
communities
want
those
services
to
be
delivered
and
again
the
representative
for
children.
D
Youth
said
today,
if
we
as
a
society,
are
going
to
meet
the
call
of
article
23
of
the
un
convention
on
the
rights
of
the
child,
which
speaks
to
the
rights
of
all
children
and
youth,
with
special
needs
to
access
care
and
support
and
live
a
life
of
dignity,
belonging
and
connection.
Then
the
current
system
needs
to
be
transformed.
K
Thanks,
mr
speaker,
more
more
bad
news
today
for
forest
dependent
families,
forest
dependent
communities
in
bc.
The
u.s
department
of
commerce
has
released
its
final
determination
on
the
duties
being
imposed
on
bc,
lumber
exports
off
at
lumber
exports
to
the
u.s
starting
next
week.
K
K
L
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
speaker,
and
I
thank
the
member
for
the
question
and
we
are
committed
to
defending
our
forest
industry
against
unfair
and
illegal
tariffs.
Our
government
continues
to
engage
with
our
counterparts
in
ottawa
and
washington
to
fight
for
a
fair
deal
for
workers,
industry
and
communities.
In
fact,
my
colleague,
the
minister
of
jobs,
has
met
with
canadian
and
american
officials
responsible
for
international
trade
to
discuss
this
very
issue
alongside
our
federal
partners,
we
will
fight
these
unjustified
duties
through
the
dispute
settlement
process
available
to
us
separately.
L
C
L
L
L
L
Thank
you,
mr
speaker,
in
partnership
with
the
federal
government,
we
will
fight
these
unjustified
duties
through
the
dispute
dispute
settlement
process
that
is
available
to
us.
In
addition,
our
government
will
continue
to
pursue
growth
in
markets
for
bc,
wood
products,
both
at
home
and
abroad,
by
promoting
innovation
and
expanding
trade
relationships
with
global
markets.
As
part
of
our
new
vision
for
forestry,
we
are
already
working
with
the
sector,
including
workers,
communities,
first
nations
and
industry,
to
ensure
it
remains
competitive
now
and
into
the
future.