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From YouTube: OCT 17 2022 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
3rd Session
42nd Parliament
D
I
appreciate
that
the
leader
of
the
official
opposition
wants
to
keep
a
bumper
sticker
going,
but
he
would
also
know
that
voters
repudiated
the
former
solicitor
general
in
Langley
quite
decisively
over
the
weekend.
D
And
nobody,
nobody
on
this
side
is
suggesting
that
it
has
it
anything
to
do
with
the
policies
that
are
largely
driven
by
Supreme
Court
decisions,
again,
which
members
on
that
side
of
the
house
know.
We
have
been
working
diligently
to
try
and
make
the
best
of
a
bad
situation
that
we
inherited,
quite
frankly
from
the
former
solicitor
general
I'm,
the
former
Attorney
General.
D
No
policy
change
has
happened
honorable
speaker
in
the
past
five
years,
none
zero,
except
for
our
efforts
to
try
and
make
the
best
of
a
bad
situation
and
I
know.
My
two
colleagues
will
be
answering
the
rest
of
the
questions,
but
I
did
not.
I
did
not
want
this
place
to
be
sullied,
quite
frankly,
by
comparing
what
happens
in
a
municipal
election
where
37
Mayors
were
defeated
in
big
cities
and
small
cities
right
across
British
Columbia.
This
is
for
us
to
all
figure
out,
but
to
tie
it
to
a
public
policy.
C
C
We've
got
a
the
former
Attorney
General
is
going
to
be
the
next
NDP
leader,
apparently,
who
spent
five
years
doing
nothing,
and
finally,
Under
Pressure
appoints
to
Consultants
to
tell
him
how
to
do
his
job.
Then
we
get
the
current
attorney
general
flying
Ottawa
with
the
solicitor
general
pretending
that
they're
suddenly
concerned
about
a
bill
that
well,
the
current
attorney
general
was
an
MPN
Ottawa
said:
didn't
go
far
enough
in
being
soft
on
criminals.
He
couldn't
support
it
because
it
wasn't
soft
enough.
C
C
With
a
crossbow,
we
saw
a
woman
on
the
corner
of
Pender
and
Camby
sucker
punched
in
the
face
for
no
reason
by
a
random
stranger
and
yet
another
violent
random
assault
in
Chinatown
were
a
93
year
old
gentleman
who
had
lived
there
for
over
30
years
thrown
to
the
ground
with
a
broken
hip.
These
are
not
bumper
stickers.
These
are
British
Columbians
that
are
saying
that
the
failed
approach
that
this
government
has
taken
being
soft
on
crime
is
failing
communities,
and
that
was
the
message
that
was
sent
in
every
Community
across
this
province.
So
enough.
E
First
of
all,
I
want
to
express
compassion
for
those
people
who
are
the
victims
of
those
random
street
offenses
that
The
Honorable
member
referred
to.
It's
simply
unacceptable
that
this
would
happen
in
a
civilized
society
and
we're
going
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it.
Mr
Speaker.
We
went
not
to
Ottawa
as
a
member
of
suited,
but
to
Halifax
the
public
safety
and
solicitor
general
and
myself
and
I'm
very
proud
to
announce
Mr
Speaker
that
we
secured
a
national
commitment
to
address
repeat
offending.
E
And
Mr
Speaker
what
became
clear
when
we
talked
to
the
other
Attorneys
General
from
other
provinces
and
territories
is.
This
is
a
national
problem.
It
is
not
limited
to
British
Columbia
at
all.
It
was
Manitoba
and
Ontario
who
spoke
passionately
in
response
to
our
interventions.
Governments,
of
course
that
are
a
different
strike
than
Mars,
but
we
are
united
in
trying
to
get
the
attention
of
the
federal
government
to
step
up
and
I'm,
confident
that
they
will.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
well
with
the
response
from
the
current
attorney
general.
As
far
as
we
know,
what
we
saw
was
the
minister
for
Public
Safety
and
solicitor
general,
and
this
attorney
general.
They
went
across
this
country
at
Halifax
to
secure
another
meeting.
We
need
action
now.
We
need
a
government
that
will
take
responsibility
for
Community
safety,
not
shift
blame
to
others.
That's
all
we
hear
from
this
government.
F
F
The
latest
victim
is
a
93-year-old
man
who
has
lived
in
Chinatown
for
30
years
and
now
lays
lies
in
the
hospital
with
a
broken
hip,
and
now
we
learn
that
two
dangerous
prolific
offenders
have
again
broken
bail,
one
who
viciously
assaulted
a
long-time
Chinatown
security
guard
and
another
who
attacked
an
87
year
old
senior
in
Chinatown
with
bear
spray.
This
prolific
offender
has
already
breached
probation
14
times,
but
was
given
bail
and
sent
back
into
our
community.
F
F
B
E
Agree
with
the
member
for
Vancouver
langara:
we
need
action
now
and
we
are
not
shifting
blame
to
others.
We
started
this
process
of
Engagement
with
the
urban
mayor's
caucus
of
British
Columbia.
We
took
their
concerns
to
the
attorney
general
of
Canada
and
he
agreed
that
action
was
needed.
Mr
Speaker,
it
is
not
Mr
Speaker.
Presumably
the
opposition
will
understand
that
we
cannot
change
the
criminal
code
in
a
day.
E
They
will
understand
that
we
need
Federal
action
because
that's
a
federal
area
of
responsibility
and
they
will
understand
that
we
need
funds
to
do
the
kind
of
things
that
are
necessary
to
deal
not
just
with
the
crimes
which
are
horrific,
but
with
the
causes
of
those
crimes.
We
want
to
be
tough
on
both
crime
and
on
the
causes
of
crime,
Mr
Speaker
that
requires
spending
money
and
a
considerable
investment
in
Social
programs,
Mr
Speaker
Mr
Speaker.
To
make
real
change.
E
E
Mr
Speaker,
we
need
complex
care
housing
for
people
and
we
have
done
20
new
facilities
where
500
people
and
more
are
currently
housed.
More
is
needed.
We
accept
that
Mr
Speaker.
We
need
Community
transition
teams,
so
those
who
come
out
of
correctional
facilities
are
looked
after
for
at
least
90
days
now,
so
they
can
find
their
way
to
the
community
without
becoming
repeat
offenders.
Mr
Speaker.
We
need
to
spend
funds
and
we
need
federal
government
help
to
do
that.
F
And
with
respect
to
the
current
attorney
general,
the
concept
of
action
now
is
not
months
and
months
and
months
of
talk
read
the
laparte
butler
report.
It
sets
out
the
policy
directives
can
be
given
from
government
to
the
BC
prosecution
service.
That's
what
we're
calling
for.
We
are
calling
for
those
policy
directives
from
this
government
to
keep
repeat
offenders
off
the
streets.
That's
an
action
this
government
can
take
today.
E
Attorney
general
there's
no
question
Mr
Speaker
that
the
member
is
correct
in
saying
people
deserve
to
feel
safe
in
their
Community,
whether
it's
Chinatown
or
anywhere
else
in
this
province
we
have
500
Crown
Council,
who
are
doing
their
job
every
day
under
the
law.
Mr
Speaker.
The
notion
of
a
directive
is
something
that
has
been
discussed
in
the
past
and
May
and
is
under
consideration,
but
Mr
Speaker
I
point
out
to
you
I
point
out
to
you
that
that
has
to
be
hi.
E
I
would,
of
course
hope
that
the
opposition
understands
that
that
directive
has
to
be
compliant
with
the
criminal
code
of
Canada
and
with
the
Charter
of
Rights
and
Freedoms
to
Simply
wave
a
magic
wand
and
say
this:
is
it
when
we
have
people
on
the
ground,
Crown
counsel
every
day,
doing
their
job
under
the
leadership
of
someone
who
was
appointed
under
the
leadership
of
the
former
government,
who
we
have
enormous
confidence
in,
they
are
doing
their
job
Mr
Speaker.
The
things
I
spoke
of
to
deal
with
the
causes
of
crime.
E
G
G
Primary
force
are
being
cut
for
pellets
to
be
burned,
old
growth
continues
to
be
logged,
work
is
underway
for
more
LNG
development.
Meeting
with
oil
and
gas
lobbyists
happens
as
many
as
times
as
80
times
a
month.
We
have
a
future
of
more
fracking,
more
Drilling
and
more
pipelines,
and
this
government
has
made
it
clear.
It
has
no
interest
in
actually
transitioning
our
economy.
G
G
Clean
BC
is
and
will
be
used
like
a
smoke
screen,
while
the
public
chokes
on
actual
smoke
from
wildfires
burning
right
now,
and
we
are
in
the
driest
90-day
period
in
Victoria's
history
through
you,
honorable
speaker
to
the
premier.
How
does
he
justify
expanding
fossil
fuel
development
in
a
climate
emergency.
D
I
will
thank
you,
honorable
speaker,
and
certainly
we
have
experienced
unprecedented
wildfires
over
the
past
five
years.
That's
public
record.
We
are
working
diligently
on
clean
BC
as
something
that
we
worked
with
the
former
leader
of
the
green
party
to
bring
forward
and
I'm
very
proud
of
the
work
of
the
minister
of
environment
and
the
former
green
caucus
and
being
able
to
do
that.
D
These
are
very
challenging
times,
not
just
for
British
Columbia
and
Canada,
or
North
America,
but
globally
by
Christmas
there
will
be
eight
billion
Souls
on
this
planet
and
we
have
to
have
a
plan
that
fits
into
what
the
rest
of
the
world
is
doing.
That's
why
we've
been
working
as
best
we
can
with
the
federal
government
to
make
sure
that
as
British
Columbians
lift
their
weight.
Others
do
as
well.
G
Thank
you,
honorable
speaker,
good,
to
have
a
little
bit
of
patronizing
response
there.
The
the
subsidies
that
I'm
referring
to
are
the
six
billion
that
were
given
to
LNG
Canada
as
the
giveaway
package
in
bill
10.
G
B
H
B
G
I
While
we
do
that
with
the
sort
of
supports
that
we
see
through
the
climate,
Action
Tax
Credit,
as
well
as
incentives,
rebates
and
support
to
transition
their
homes
to
low
carbon
and
to
clean
energy,
their
transportation
through
investments
in
public
transit
through
acceleration
of
active
Transportation
initiatives,
as
well
as
supporting
zero
emission
Vehicles,
there
is
so
much
that
we
have
done.
There
is
so
much
more
to
do.
I
J
House
leader,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
well,
British
Columbians,
don't
believe
the
Attorney
General's
false
indignation
when
he
blames
bill
c-75
for
the
chaos
in
our
streets.
The
Attorney
General
should
remember
his
own
words
and
I
quote,
requiring
the
least
onerous
form
of
release
be
imposed
is
a
good
thing.
J
End
quote
now:
when
the
AG
said
these
words,
he
was
speaking
for
all
of
his
Federal
NDP
caucus
colleagues
at
the
time
and
guess
what
several
of
those
colleagues
are
now
colleagues
with
him,
and
they
serve
here
in
this
chamber
today,
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions,
the
minister
of
Municipal
Affairs,
the
member
for
Coquitlam
Burke
Mountain.
They
all
are
here
and
serve
with
this
attorney
general.
They
can
remind
the
Attorney
General
of
what
he
said.
J
What
what
his
words
were,
because
they
agreed
with
him
that
bill
c-75
was
too
lenient
at
the
time,
and
the
impact
of
the
ndp's
soft
on
crime
approach
is
being
felt
by
all
British
Columbians,
notably
police
officers,
on
the
front
lines
as
Chief
Mike
Sarah
of
the
Abbotsford
Police
said
and
I
quote,
they
put
our
community
In
Harm's
Way,
despite
multiple
arrests
and
multiple
charges
and
they're
out
on
the
streets
before
our
members
have
even
finished
the
paperwork.
Bluntly
I'm
mad
about
it.
E
Or
donate
General,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
put
the
emphasis
on
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
address
the
conflict
rather
than
simply
calling
out
each
other
for
I
actually
voted
against
that
bill.
In
case
the
member
didn't
notice.
F
H
E
Event,
I
did
work
in
the
Justice
committee
to
try
to
improve
it,
but
that's
not
the
point
Mr
Speaker.
The
point
is
there
were
all
the
attorneys
generals
Canada
all
the
Justice,
all
of
the
solicitors,
General
and
Public
Safety
ministers
were
United
in
saying
that
there
were
unintended
consequences
of
Bill
c-75
as
regards
repeat
offenders
with
these
random
street
violence
situations,
every
part
of
the
country
made
that
point
to
the
attorney
general
of
Canada,
who
listened
now
Mr
Speaker.
E
It's
important
that
we
focus
on
the
things
that
we
can
do
and
not
just
an
ought
with
ottawa's
hope
hope
for
funding
that
we
will
need,
but
already
what
we
are
doing.
We
brought
back
the
prolific
offender
Management
program.
We
have
brought
back.
E
We
have
created
peer-assisted
care
teams,
which
was
the
number
one
recommendation
of
the
experts
that
we
appointed
that
will
provide
civil-led
response
to
people
who
are
in
drug
crisis
or
who
have
the
who
have
mental
health
issues.
We've
got
them
rolling
out
in
Victoria
and
New
West
and
there'll
be
one
in
the
North
Shore.
This
fall
complex
care.
Housing
is
identified
as
an
essential
part
of
the
solution.
Mr
Speaker
and
we
have
provided,
as
I
said,
164
million
dollars
in
budget
2022
to
create
20
new
facilities
where
over
500
people
are
housed.
E
Finally,
Mr
Speaker,
it's
important
the
new
comp
Community
transition
team
expansion
will
help
people
who
are
leaving
penal
institutions
to
reduce
the
chances
of
reoffending
for
90
days,
they'll
be
given
wraparound
support.
All
of
those
concrete
steps.
Mr
Speaker,
are
there
to
ensure
that
our
streets
are
safer
in
the
future.
We
got
lots
more
to
do.
Mr
Speaker,
but
that's
a
great
I,
think
a
significant
commitment
we've
already
made
to
address
this
problem.
J
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker.
Well,
let's
be
clear.
While
the
Attorney
General
stands
here
and
says
that
oh
British
Columbia
I
want
you
to
know
that
I
voted
against
Bill
c-75.
The
other
part
of
that
story
that
he's
not
being
honest
with
British
Columbia
is
about
is
he's
not
telling
British
Columbia.
C
J
The
reason
he
voted
against
it
was
because
it
wasn't
lenient
enough.
It
wasn't
lenient
enough.
It
wasn't
soft
enough.
That's
why
the
the
Attorney
General
voted
against
it
at
the
time,
along
with
his
other
caucus
colleagues
who
were
there
with
him
now
Mr
Speaker,
the
lack
of
action
on
the
part
of
this
government
is
breathtaking.
There's
been
an
explosion
of
violent
crime
and
social
chaos
as
a
result
of
the
former
Attorney
General's,
a
catch
and
release
system.
Last
week's
Sergeant,
Steve
Addison
of
The,
Vancouver
Police,
said
and
I
quote.
J
Without
a
doubt,
it's
the
worst
I've
ever
seen.
End
quote:
British
Columbians
deserve
to
be
protected
from
violent
prolific
offenders
who
assault,
but
then
are
quickly
released,
only
to
assault
again
hurting
more
and
more
innocent
people.
Innocent
victims,
like
the
young
woman
from
Coquitlam,
who
was
struck
in
the
head
with
a
hammer
while
walking
down
the
street
with
her
friends
the
prolific
offender
responsible
for
this
vicious
Hammer
attack,
has
been
in
and
out
of
the
former
Attorney
General's
catch
and
release
system
and
was
released
just
days
before
this
attack
on
this
young
woman.
E
Mr
Speaker,
it
was
the
attorney
generals
of
other
provinces
like
I
mentioned
Manitoba
in
Ontario
in
particular,
who
said
that
the
consequences
of
Bill
c-75
and
later
Charter
cases
like
Zora
were
not
intended.
Mr
Speaker,
they
are
taking
the
kind
of
steps
that
we
are
taking
to
that
I
I
mentioned
in
my
last
answer.
To
suggest:
there's
a
lack
of
action.
Our
part
is
simply
not
not
credible.
E
Mr
Speaker,
The
Honorable
member
referred
to
a
a
chief
of
police
I'll
refer
to
another
Victoria
police
chief
Del
manic,
who
said
when,
in
response
to
the
reinstatement
of
the
prolific
offender
Management
program,
that
the
last
government
cut
that
the
program
was
a
success
when
it
was
in
effect,
Victoria
police
were
at
the
table
with
corrections
and
social
workers
to
discuss
how
each
individual
offender
would
fit
into
the
community.
When
people
were
going
to
be
released
on
conditions
or
had
finished
their
sentence,
the
prolific
offender
manager
group
would
come
together.
E
We
actually
had
a
say
in
discussing
each
individual
case:
Mr
Speaker,
the
police,
Federation
of
Canada
Rob
Farrer
of
the
National
Police
Federation,
also
said
all
of
the
parties
coming
together
and
figuring
out
a
model,
that's
absolutely
necessary
one
of
the
things
we've
called
for
that
would
be
Corrections
police,
Crown,
different
Ministries,
Mental,
Health
social
development,
everybody
coming
together
to
figure
out
a
best
practice
and
move
forward.
Those
are
the
things
we're
reinstating,
Mr
Speaker,
among
many
other
measures,
to
make
a
real
difference
on
the
streets
of
communities,
large
and
small
across
our
province,
foreign.
A
Take
action:
in
fact,
they
heard
from
the
BC
Urban
mayor's
caucus
more
than
half
a
year
ago
about
the
issue
of
prolific
offenders.
They've,
had
months
to
secure
a
meeting
with
the
government
to
discuss
bill
c-75
regarding
bail
and
every
day
that
they
waited
to
take
action.
On
average,
four
people
were
assaulted,
randomly
attacked
just
in
Vancouver
alone
and
with
four
random
assaults
taking
place
just
in
Vancouver
every
day,
that's
40
innocent
victims
that
have
been
assaulted.
A
A
E
Attorney
general
well,
thank
you
in
the
incident
that
The
Honorable
member
from
Surrey
South
recounts
is
a
horrific.
We
have
spoken
with
the
urban
mayor's
caucus
before
going
to
meet
our
counterpart
in
Ottawa.
We
have
we've
had
enormous
support
from
them,
as
we've
done
gone
about
this
work,
when
I
personally
met
attorney
general
lemetti
I
had
the
letter
from
them
the
report
from
the
urban
marors
and
discussed
it
with
them.
E
We
are
going
to
brief
them
in
light
of
the
in
the
success
we
had
just
last
week,
again
we're
working
closely
with
them,
because
we
accept
that
there's
a
partnership
between
local
government
and
the
province
and
Mr
Speaker.
E
We
need
a
partnership
as
well
with
the
federal
government,
and
that
is
what
we
are
achieving
we're
going
to
ask
for
continue
to
support
in
a
number
of
ways,
but
Mr
Speaker,
Crown
Council,
no
matter
how
many
they
are
no
matter
how
competent
they
are
subject
to
the
laws
of
the
land,
and
we
can
only
ask
them
to
do
what
the
law
is
required
and
if
those
laws
need
to
be
changed.
That
is
exactly
what
we're
going
to
do.
I
wish.
E
We
could
wave
a
magic
wand
and
have
parliament
make
those
amendments
right
now,
but
I.
If
the
honor
remembers
suggesting
the
crown
ought
not
to
follow
the
law,
I'm
sure
she's,
not
we
cannot
and
will
not
do
that
Mr
Speaker.
What
we
are
going
to
do
is
provide
those
supports
that
are
needed
to
be
tough,
not
only
on
crime
and
continue
to
prosecute,
but
also
toughen
the
causes
of
crime.
Mr.
B
E
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
What
would
this
attorney
general
fails
to
realize
as
we
keep
asking
them
to
bring
in
directives
which
they
are
allowed
to
do,
which
they
can
control
and
they
could
have
take
action
ever
since
c-75
came
in?
But
this
attorney
general
doesn't
want
us
to
actually
know
what
he
said
about
c75.
He
said
it
didn't.
It
was
too
strong.
It
wasn't
lenient
enough
for
prolific
offenders.
He
was
more
worried
about
the
prolific
offenders
then
than
he
was
about
the
public.
H
The
former
attorney
general
for
the
last
five
years
was
of
a
similar
mind.
In
fact,
what
he
said
in
2011
about
the
vaunted
prolific
offender
program
was
the
same
thing,
and
this
is
what
he
says
and
I
quote.
We
have
serious
concerns
with
the
results
of
this
program
and
are
continuing
to
investigate
the
aggressive
policing
tactics.
End
quote.
C
H
Day
now
he's
expected
to
be
the
leader
premier
of
this
province
and
we're
supposed
to
believe
that
the
prolific
offender
program
is
going
to
continue
on
for
any
length
of
time.
When
you
have
a
current
attorney
general
that
thinks
c75
was
too
lenient.
I'm
a
former
Attorney
General
that
thinks
the
prolific
offender
program
was
too
aggressive
and
in
the
meantime
we
have
people
getting
assaulted,
randomly
daily
unprovoked
strangers,
attacks
every
single
day,
a
prolific
offender
attacked
a
70
year
old,
stranger
from
behind
punching
and
kicking
him.
H
H
Two
days
after
a
54
year,
old
woman
suffered
serious
injuries
and,
after
the
same
prolific,
attack
offender
attacked
her
in
a
violent
home
invasion.
So
Mr
Speaker,
this
side
of
the
house
doesn't
think
these
are
bumper
stickers.
We
don't
think
the
former
Attorney
General
soft
on
crime
approach
of
catch
and
releases
a
bumper
sticker,
we're
with
the
public
that
want
to
feel
safe
in
their
own
communities
their
own
homes.
When
is
this
attorney
general
going
to
take
actual
meaningful,
lasting
action
to
protect
people
versus
the
criminals.
E
Attorney
general
well,
thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
The
incidents
that
The
Honorable
member
refers
to
are
horrible,
nothing,
nothing
more,
nothing
less
and
I.
My
heart
goes
out
to
the
victims
of
those
crimes.
We
in
respect
of
the
prolific
offender
Management
program.
We
have
committed
publicly
to
fund
that
program,
something
that
we
needed
to
do
since
the
last
government
cut
it
despite
its
40
success
rate,
and
that
is
something
that
will
continue.
That
is
what
we've
announced:
Mr
Speaker.
This
is
a
serious
problem
that
sloganeering
is
not
going
to
solve.
We
are
with
the
public.