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From YouTube: NOV 1 2022 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
3rd Session
42nd Parliament
A
Speaker,
the
murder
of
Burnaby
RCMP,
Constable
shailen
yang
call
for
Action
to
deal
with
the
massive
gaps
and
missed
opportunities
in
mental
health
and
addiction
in
this
province.
19
months
ago,
Burnaby
RCMP
begged
this
government
to
establish
a
mental
health
car
program,
an
integrated
crisis
response,
pairing
police
officers
with
trained
mental
health
nurses.
A
But
the
Lepard
report
revealed
a
shocking
fact:
the
NDP
declined
the
city
of
burnaby's
funding,
requests
for
a
mental
health
police
car
model
quote
Fraser
Health
declined
a
proposal
from
Burnaby
RCMP,
even
though
the
RCMP
were
prepared
to
allocate
a
full-time
officer
of
vehicle
and
other
equipment.
End
quote
to
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions.
Why
did
this
NDP
government
decline
the
funding
request
to
establish
a
safe
and
proven
mental
health
police
car
program.
C
You
Mr
Speaker
the
tragic
death
of
the
RCMP
constable
in
Burnaby
in
the
on
the
front
line.
Doing
some
of
the
most
difficult
work
that
we
ask
our
front
line.
People
public
service
across
the
province
to
do
is
heartbreaking.
It
weighs
heavily
on
all
of
us.
We
send
our
condolences,
of
course,
to
her
family
and
friends.
The
intersection
of
mental
health,
substance
use
and
addict
and
Public
Safety
is,
of
course,
something
that's
preoccupying.
C
Everybody
on
both
sides
of
the
house
that
we
have
in
multiple
programs,
pairing
of
enforcement
and
of
Health
Care,
is
a
really
important
Evolution
and
one
that
we're
expressing
through
our
programs
in
many
ways
and
also
again
important
to
assert
that
not
that,
for
the
most
part,
people
with
untreated
mental
health
and
addictions
are
not
themselves
violent
and
we
don't
want
to
contribute
to
a
stigma
that
prevents
people
from
stepping
up
and
asking
for
health
care
support.
But
there
are
times
that
those
pieces
come
together
and
that's
why
we
commissioned
the
lepart
butler
report.
C
It's
why
we
commissioned
the
police
act
review.
It's
why,
in
a
number
of
ways,
in
some
cases,
through
par
programs
where
there
is
a
ride-along
service,
in
other
cases,
with
peer-assisted
crisis,
supports
like
we
are
funding
on
the
North
Shore,
so
that
people
in
crisis
are
not
escalated
by
the
presence
of
police
officer.
There
is
more
work
for
us
to
do
in
this
area,
but
we
are
gathering
data
and
evidence
on
a
number
of
platforms
led
by
a
number
of
municipalities
and
a
number
of
Health
authorities
that
are
tackling
this
problem
together
in
different
ways.
A
Phrase
this-
it
is
not
enough
and
it
is
not
fast
enough.
Whatever
is
happening
now.
Pairing
mental
health
support
workers
with
police
like
the
car
67
programming
Siri,
is
a
proven
approach.
It's
happening
in
communities
community-based
and
Community
funded,
and
we
can
show
show
that
it
works
over
the
past
five
years.
This
opposition
has
called
for
these
programs
to
be
expanded.
Mr
Speaker,
seven
months
ago,
the
all
party
police
committee
called
for
them
to
be
expanded
as
well
and
now
government's
own
Lepard
report
calls
it
a
proven
approach,
blocked
by
the
NDP.
A
How
many
reports
does
this
government
need
before
they
act
and
I
quote
from
the
Lepard
report?
Again
they
declined
a
proposal
from
Burnaby,
RCMP
and
Fraser
Health,
provided
no
explanation.
End
quote
so.
This
NDP
government
has
ignored
every
suggestion
that
we
have
made
related
to
the
crisis
on
our
streets
without
explanation.
So
why
has
the
NDP
blocked
integrated
mental
health
teams.
C
C
Call
calls
that,
like
on
North
Shore
with
the
peer-assisted
crisis
team,
it
is
the
it's
the
peer
worker
team
and
the
mental
health
worker
team
that
respond
and
if
they
need
police
backup
they,
then
they
are
called
in,
and
we've
got
data
on
this
from
the
first
year.
We're
funding
this
in
two
more
communities
and
I
hope
we'll
fund
it
in
more.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Well,
the
minister
makes
it
sounds
like
this
government
has
expanded
the
car
programs
across
this
province
and
they
flat
out
have
not.
That
is
the
core
to
the
problem.
Municipality
after
municipality
has
been
asking
for
either
expanded
car
services
or,
in
the
case
of
Burnaby,
one
to
be
started,
and
they
repeatedly
get
told
by
this
government.
No
so
for
the
minister
to
talk
about
expanding
these
programs
just
simply
isn't
happening
under
their
watch.
E
Full
stop.
The
NDP
Mr
Speaker
have
actually
taken
the
word
police
out
of
police,
assisted
care
teams
that
doesn't
appear
to
be
an
accident.
Mr
Speaker,
internal
Ministry
of
mental
health
and
addictions
documents
show
that
the
NDP
policy
changes
are
designed
to
defund
police
mental
health
teams.
The
policy
document
claims
that,
and
I
quote
police
response
can
be
re-traumatizing
can
contribute
to
stigma.
End
quote:
in
light
of
all
the
increased
violence
and
mental
health
response
teams
are
seeing
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
E
This
simply
makes
no
sense.
The
NDP
appear
to
be
prioritizing
their
ideological
opposition
to
police
over
police,
mental
health
teams
that
have
proven
to
work
and
that
communities
desperately
want
expanded.
When
will
this
government
stop
asking
for
yet
another
report
to
verify
what
over
the
last
five
years
has
become
very
clear
communities
want
these
programs
expanded.
C
C
There's
no
question:
there
are
times
that
a
police
response
is
needed,
and
that
is
why
we
support
the
people
working
on
the
front
line
in
this
way
and
at
the
same
time,
team-based
approaches
are
vital
and
they
are
evidenced
throughout
our
government's
approach,
particularly
in
mental
health
and
addictions,
particularly
in
Primary,
Health
Care
and
the
linkage
of
police
is
vital
to
that
to
say
otherwise
is
completely
ignoring
the
facts.
But
let
me
say
the
that
act.
C
Teens
in
our
communities,
delivering
Crisis,
Intervention
housing,
supports
and
psychiatric
treatment,
always
with
a
police
linkage,
the
peer-assisted
care
teams,
which
I
sometimes
call
peer,
assisted
crisis
teams.
Sorry
for
the
change
in
acronym.
They
didn't
this
program
that
my
Ministry
funds
doesn't
have
police
in
the
name
and
it
hasn't
because
it's
they're
only
called
in
when
needed.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
five
and
a
half
years.
Five
and
a
half
years.
The
opposition
has
been
calling
for
the
expansion
of
these
programs.
Five
and
a
half
years
Mayors
and
counselors
across
this
province
have
been
calling
for
the
expansion
of
these
pro
programs.
The
all
party
police
committee
called
for
the
expansion
of
these
programs
seven
months
ago.
The
Lepard
report
cited
that
these
are
police
mental
health
units
as
a
proven
approach,
and
yet
the
minister
of
mental
health
and
addictions
continues
to
stand
up
and
be
in
the
way
of
these
proven
results.
E
Countless
has
been
trying
for
years
to
get
their
car
40
program.
Expanded,
I've
asked
the
minister
directly
myself
in
estimates
about
that.
Prince
George
has
been
asking
surrey's
been
asking.
Burnaby
was
Final,
told
no,
let
that
sink
in
for
a
second
Burnaby
was
flat
out
told
no.
So
perhaps,
given
that
Burnaby
was
directly
asking
for
it,
Burnaby
was
directly
prepared
to
have
the
police
resources
and
cars
and
Equipment
all
they
needed
was
nursing,
help
and
support.
Can
the
minister
explain
why
this
government
rejected
burnaby's
request
for
this
specific
program?
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
why?
The
opposition
continues
to
overlook
the
fact
that
pure
assisted
care
teams,
which
my
Ministry
is
expanding,
was
the
number
one
recommendation
in
the
Lepard
Butler
report
was
also
something
that
resulted
from
the
all
party
budget
committee
two
summers
ago
was
also
brought
repeatedly
to
the
police
act
review,
and
that
is
something
that
we
are
implementing
right
now:
peer
assisted
care
teams
and
we're
going
to
do
more
police
app
called
for
them.
It
takes
a
pressure
off
police,
and
sometimes
it
gets
better
results
on
the
ground.
C
In
my
own
community
in
Nanaimo
there
is
a
pairing
through
the
health
authority
in
the
RCMP
of
some
form
of
a
ride-along
program,
so
those
programs
do
continue
to
expand,
but
these
are
health
authority
decisions
about
how
they
will
use
their
health
authority
resources,
knowing
that
nurses
in
particular,
are
in
short
supply.
Sometimes
Health
authorities
make
different
decisions
based
on
what
is
on
the
ground
and
what
their
own
Human
Resources
limitations
and
restrictions
are.
We
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
hire
nurses
right
now,
but
that
said,
let
me
be
really
clear.
C
Let
me
be
very
clear:
Mr
Speaker.
Our
government
continues
to
expand
support
for
mental
health
and
addictions.
We
continue
to
work
very
closely
with
police
and
with
health
authorities.
I
have
never
said
no
to
Burnaby.
Thank
you
for
your
heckling,
member.
F
G
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
as
local
members
here
know,
and
anybody
who
lives
around
the
Saanich
Inlet.
They
know
it
to
be
a
special
place.
Mr
Speaker,
it's
fed
countless
generations
of
my
family.
G
However,
throughout
the
decades
it's
also
suffered
from
environmental
degradation,
there's
been
a
long
history
of
industrial
activity
at
the
bamberton
site
and
as
a
young
boy
I
used
to
fish
underneath
that
cement
plant
with
my
father
the
cement
plant
closed
many
years
ago,
Mr
speaker
now,
an
operator
malahat
Investment
corporation
has
applied
to
expand
an
existing
Quarry
by
approximately
47
percent
under
the
environmental
assessment
act.
The
reviewable
projects
regulation
does
not
require
an
existing
mind
to
undertake
an
environmental
assessment
and
I'm
paraphrasing.
G
If
the
request
to
expand
is
not
at
least
50
percent
of
the
previously
permitted
area.
Mr
Speaker.
This
is
a
cultural
and
environmentally
significant
area,
and
there
is
no
way
to
grind
down
an
entire
Mountainside
into
construction
aggregate
without
damaging
the
environment.
Without
an
environmental
assessment,
we
have
no
idea
the
extent
of
the
destruction.
The
regulation,
as
it
currently
reads,
is
unacceptable.
Through
you
to
the
minister
of
environment,
this
project
may
just
barely
fit
under
the
regulation.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
Mr
speaker,
thank
you
to
the
member
for
his
question
and
for
his
concern
I'm
aware
of
the
situation.
The
member
has
correctly
pointed
out
that
the
threshold
in
the
reviewable
project
regulation
is
an
expansion
of
area
by
50
percent,
and
this
project
is
47
percent.
I
am
in
discussion
with
the
environmental
assessment
office
around
what
they
know
about
this
particular
project,
but
the
project
as
it
is
currently
described,
falls
under
the
threshold
of
a
reviewable
project.
H
There
has
to
be
a
very
sufficient
reason
to
seek
to
overrule
the
the
regulation
as
it
stands.
G
And
the
minister
knows,
as
is
pointed
out
in
court
cases,
that
there
is
a
discretion
that
the
minister
could
use
to
review
a
project
and
this
project
actually
exposes
an
absurd
loophole
that
exists
in
this
regulation.
Mr
Speaker
in
2019
regulation
was
amended
for
new
mines.
The
production
capacity
exceeding
75
000
tons
per
year
now
requires
an
environmental
assessment
for
context.
The
bamberton
application
under
consideration
by
the
ministry
of
Minds
is
to
expand
extraction
to
479
thousand
tons.
G
That's
6.5
times
the
volume
the
environmental
assessment
considers
accessible
or
acceptable
for
a
new
project.
G
When
I
asked
the
minds
Ministry.
If
I
was
correct
in
this,
they
said
it's
up
to
the
ministry
of
the
environment.
Ask
the
minister
so
Mr
Speaker
to
the
minister
of
environment.
Will
he
require
this
application
to
have
an
environmental
assessment
at
the
bamberton
Quarry
and
will
he
change
the
regulation
to
close
this
absurd
loophole.
H
Minister,
thank
you
very
much.
Honorable
speaker.
The
regulation
itself
is
not
currently
under
review
and
I
would
point
out
to
the
member
that
whatever
a
threshold
level
exists,
there
will
be
project
proposals
that
come
close
to
it
and
that
in
and
of
itself
is
not
enough
reason
to
change
a
regulation,
as
I
said
to
the
member
I'm
aware
of
the
production
proposed
production
expansion
of
this
facility
I'm
aware
of
how
close
it
comes
to
the
area
expansion
threshold
and
the
member
should
also
be
aware.
H
The
members
clearly
aware
that
the
minister
has
discretion
to
order
an
assessment
I've
already
expressed
that
there
has
to
be
a
good
and
sufficient
reason
to
do.
That
and
I
am
reviewing
the
facts
of
this
case.
But
the
members
should
also
be
aware
that
it
is
the
role
of
the
chief
environmental
assessment
officer
as
the
statutory
decision
maker
to
also
look
at
these
projects
and
that
that
official
is
doing
her
job,
and
it
is
not
my
job
to
presume
that
she
is
not
doing
her.
H
I
Speaker
I
just
want
to
go
back
for
a
moment
to
the
questions
that
my
colleagues
asked
with
regard
to
the
expansion
of
the
police
and
mental
health.
Outreach
teams,
so
I
just
wanted
on
the
record
that
it's
clear
that
the
minister
believes
that
she
knows
better
believes
that
she
knows
better
than
two
reports
that
were
commissioned
by
the
NDP.
I
I
Something
in
the
community
can
go
so
terribly
wrong
as
we
saw
with
Constable
Yang,
and
this
is
why
we
need
to
have
nurses,
psychiatric
nurses
riding
along
with
police
officers,
so
I'm.
Sorry
that
the
the
member
seems
to
know
better
than
the
two
reports
that
were
issued
by
her
own
party
recommending
the
expansion
of
these
programs.
J
Speaker
and
I
thank
the
the
member
for
her
question,
though
I
must
say
right
off
the
top
I
do
find
it
interesting
that
today
she
is
praising
the
author
of
the
report.
Doug
Lepard,
whereas
a
week
ago
the
BC
liberal
opposition
was
criticizing
Doug
lapard
as
being
just
a
deputy
police
chief,
honorable,
speaker
and
I,
think
that's
reflective
of
the
approach
that
the
opposition
has
taken.
The
reality
is
this.
J
Honorable
speaker,
we
have
been
working
very
closely
with
local
governments,
with
police
agencies
and
with
Federal
governments
to
ensure
that
we've
got
the
tools,
the
programs
and
the
laws
in
place
to
be
able
to
deal
with
the
challenges
that
we
have
been
facing
in
this
province
and,
in
fact,
provinces
right
across
the
country
have
been
facing
when
it
comes
to.
When
it
comes
to
Violent,
repeat
offenders,
it
is
not
a
question
of
saying
the
minister
knows
better.
We
know
that
Health
experts
are
the
ones
who
know
what
needs
to
be
done.
J
J
On
all
the
speakers,
we
have
a
range
of
tools
and
options
that
are
available
to
and
implement
it
for
communities.
They
include
car
programs,
they
include
peer,
assisted
care
teams,
which
was,
as
the
ministers
were
pointed
out,
the
number
one
recommendation
for
changes
to
take
place
and
those
are
changes
that
are
being
put
in
place.
Honorable
speaker,
we
are
expanding
resources
and
we
know
what
the
record
from
the
other
side
was.
When
they
sat
on
this
side,
it
was
to
cut
resources
to
programs
exactly
exactly
the
kind.
J
You
cut
and
cut
and
cut
Social
programs
members.
Please
thank
you.
Honorable
speaker,
the
the
members
seem
to
think
it's
just
one
program.
There
are
a
whole
range
of
programs,
a
whole
range
of
tools
that
are
required
by
police
and
communities,
and
this
government
is
ensuring
to
work
that
those
programs
and
those
resources
are
in
place
right
across
the
province.
I
Mr
Speaker,
the
Lepard
report
makes
it
clear
that
the
lack
of
housing
supports
provided
by
the
NDP
has
contributed
to
the
four
random
attacks
on
people
in
Vancouver
every
single
day
and
as
the
housing
Minister.
The
incoming
soft
on
crime
Premier
repeatedly
Warehouse
people
and
housing
units
without
proper
supports,
Vancouver
Police
have
Frontline
experience
with
this,
and
I
quote
one
shelter
with
90.
People
accounted
for
1
000
calls
for
service
in
one
year
and
it
spun
that
neighborhood
into
crisis
overnight.
I
There
were
no
supports
for
that
person
in
crisis
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
except
for
a
desk
clerk.
End
quote:
this
is
the
same
government
that
thinks
a
cup
of
tea
counts
as
Supportive
Housing.
How
is
it
acceptable
for
the
incoming
Premier
to
promise
Supportive
Housing,
but
not
to
deliver
on
Mental
Health
supports.
B
C
You
Mr
Speaker
I'm
pleased
to
have
another
opportunity
to
rise
to
say
that
the
introduction
to
the
members
first
question
is
completely
mischaracterization
of
everything
that
I
said
in
the
first
half
of
question
period.
I've,
never
said
no
to
a
car
program.
We
are
implementing
a
cross,
a
diversity
of
approaches.
C
If
Fraser
Health
doesn't
have
enough
nurses
to
add
to
the
existing
heart
program
that
they
fund,
then
then
that
is
a
work
that
we
are
doing
to
train
up
more
nurses,
so
that
health
authority
is
able
to
make
broader
decisions
about
how
they
can
dispatch
resources.
Let
me
also
read
into
the
record
the
number
one
recommendation
of
Lepard
Butler.
We
recommend
that
the
provincial
government
continue
to
invest
in
civilian-led
bracket,
non-police
Mental,
Health
crisis
teams,
in
collaboration
with
community
service
providers,
for
example,
Pierce
assisted
care
teams.
That's
exactly
what
we're
doing.
K
K
The
orders
come
from
government
so
to
say
that
somehow
this
is
all
health
authority
Falls
in
their
shoulders
is
false
government's
got
to
take
responsibility
and
to
say
that
somehow
we're
mischaracterizing
what's
happening
in
BC,
whether
we're
talking
about
the
Health
crisis
or
the
drug
addiction
crisis,
the
homeless
crisis,
prolific
offenders
crisis,
not
us.
These
are
reports
coming
from
reports
commissioned
by
the
government,
the
incoming
soft
and
crime
premier's
own.
What
part
report
says
that
people
are
committing
crimes
just
to
have
access
to
detox
treatment
under
this
government?
K
K
K
C
You
Mr
Speaker
the
tragic
loss
of
life
across
British
Columbia
because
of
the
increasingly
toxic
drug
Supply
is
something
that
consumes
our
work
every
day
it
directly
informs
what
we
hear
from
police.
What
we
hear
from
Court
workers,
what
we
hear
from
the
First
Nations
Justice
Council,
what
we
hear
from
peers
people
with
experienced
families
that
have
lost
loved
ones.
It
informs
everything
we
do.
There
was
not
a
Continuum
of
Care
in
place
when
we
form
government.
C
That's
why
my
Ministry
was
created
to
work
with
health
authorities
and
every
Ministry
to
build
up
just
the
kind
of
supports
that
we
continue
to
hear.
People
need
prescribed,
safe,
Supply,
opening
hundreds
of
new
addiction
treatment
beds,
re-regulating
the
sector
that
the
previous
government
deregulated,
the
treatment
and
Recovery
sector
going
from
one
supervised
consumption
site
in
2017
to
now,
40,
plus
a
great
number
of
families.
C
Across
every
piece
enforcement
working
with
Partners
prevention,
harm
reduction,
treatment,
recovery
across
every
piece
of
the
Continuum
we
and
and
Mental
Health
crisis
supports
as
well
we're
building
up
more
supports,
and
there
is
so
much
more
for
us
to
do.
There's
no
question:
the
continued
loss
of
life
says
further
work
is
necessary
and
we
continue
to
evolve
our
response
and
add
more
ways
to
save
lives
and
guide
people
towards
treatment,
because
lives
are
at
stake.
L
L
L
End
quote:
these
are
12
beds
that
are
leaving
the
community
with
no
explanation,
and
this
isn't
the
first
time
my
community
has
seen
this.
We
saw
the
closure
of
Good
Shepherd
Lodge
that
is
30
beds,
30
beds
that
were
not
replaced
by
this
Minister.
This
Minister
can
stand
in
this
house
and
say
that
the
blame
falls
on
health
authorities,
but
the
blame
falls
on
this
Minister
for
not
having
accountability
in
her
own
file.
C
C
C
We
carry
the
work
on,
but
the
direction
that
I've
given
to
every
health
authority.