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From YouTube: NOV 2 2022 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
3rd Session
42nd Parliament
B
B
Here's
what
the
mayor
had
to
say,
Mayor,
Mike
Hurley,
said
and
I
quote
it's
something
that
we
must
get
I'm
past
the
stage
of
being
nice
about
it.
End
quote.
So
when
will
the
minister
finally
do
the
right
thing,
stop
blocking
these
desperately
needed
programs
and
ensure
that
these
communities
get
the
programs
or
the
expanded
programs
that
they
need.
D
Minister
speaker
when
people
are
in
crisis
because
of
mental
health
and
substance
use
challenges,
we
want
them
to
be
met
with
care
and
safety,
and
we
want
our
communities
to
be
safe
as
well
of
our
first
responder
system
does
rely
on
police
as
the
primary
respondent.
That's
what
9-1-1
sends
and
because
that
is
both
overburdening
police
and
sometimes
not
leading
to
the
best
outcomes
for
people
in
crisis.
D
Our
government
has
added
in
a
number
of
ways
whether
it's
through
act
programs,
whether
it's
through
fact,
whether
it
is
through
car
programs
or
whether
it
is
the
most
recent
iteration,
a
peer-assessed
care
teams.
The
number
one
call
in
the
Lepard
Butler
report.
We
continue
to
work
with
municipalities
with
every
health
authority.
We
have
not
closed
the
door
on
any
options
and
we'll
continue
to
look
for
ways
to
support
police
in
their
vital
Frontline
work
and
to
keep
our
communities
safe.
In
these
moments
of
mental
health
and
substance
use
crisis.
B
Have
been
told
the
governor
programs
actually
work,
she
also
knows
that
communities
right
across
the
province
want
these
car
programs
available
to
respond
when
there
is
a
risk
of
violence.
For
years
now,
the
city
of
Prince
George
has
been
trying
to
expand
this
program
and
have
been
told
no
Penticton
Council,
directly
begged
the
minister
at
ubcm
for
immediate
urgent
action,
and
she
refused.
Last
year,
coquitla
mayor
Richard
Stewart
publicly
expressed
his
frustration
that
this
government
denied
a
car
program
in
Coquitlam
following
the
tragic
slang
of
constable
Shaylin
Yang.
B
He
has
joined
the
mayor
of
Burnaby
in
calling
once
again
for
Urgent
action,
mayor
Stewart,
said
and
I
quote
at
some
point:
we're
going
to
see
another
tragedy
that
is
directly
attributable
to
the
fact
that
this
kind
of
process
occurs.
End
quote
so
when
will
the
minister
listen
to
the
advice
of
experts?
The
very
reports
that
this
government
has
commissioned?
Will
she
get
out
of
the
way,
stop
blocking
these
programs
respond
to
communities
and
make
sure
that
there
are
mental
health,
car
programs
across
the
province
of
British
Columbia.
D
You
Mr
Speaker.
Our
government
agrees
that
when
police
are
called
into
crisis,
they
need
every
support
available
to
them,
and
that
is
why
we
have
stood
up
in
in
so
many
ways
in
so
many
communities.
In
some
cases
there
are
car
programs.
In
some
cases
there
are
act
programs
with
a
police
liaison,
but
what
we
are
and
and
I
will
say
again
to
the
member
I,
don't
think
you
are
in
the
room.
D
Sorry
I,
don't
think
the
member
was
in
the
room
at
Union,
BC
municipalities
when
I
talked
to
repeated
councils
about
this,
including
the
mayor
of
Penticton,
that
when
I
talked
with
them
about
the
multitude
of
ways
that
can
keep
police
away
from
those
calls
completely,
many
of
them
were
encouraged.
And
again
our
government
works
across
a
whole
Continuum
of
supports.
D
The
number
one
recommendation
of
the
Lepard
Butler
report
was,
for
these
kind
of
Crisis
calls
that
there
be
non-police
interventions
and
that's
why
we
have
funded
the
North
Shore
peer,
assisted
care
team,
which,
in
its
first
year
of
operation,
was
contacted
448
times
dispatched
75
times
and
only
in
six
instances
did
they
need
to
call
police
in
I'm
talking
to
police
officers
and
Municipal
leaders
in
many
communities,
and
they
say
this.
In
addition
to
the
other
supports
we're
giving
police
and
people
in
crisis
is
something
that
they
want
to
continue
to
expand
and
explore.
E
You
Mr
Speaker,
well,
the
the
minister
keeps
saying
that
that
she
and
her
government
have
left
all
the
options
on
the
table.
E
It
sure
doesn't
feel
that
way
to
municipalities
that
have
car
programs
that
were
established
before
this
government
took
power
that
have
been
urging
the
government
to
expand
these
programs,
and
the
government
has
has
not
allowed
that
to
happen.
It
sure
doesn't
feel
that
all
the
options
are
on
the
table
to
those
those
communities
like
Coquitlam
and
Burnaby
and
others
that
have
asked
for
car
programs,
and
this
government
hasn't
allowed
them
to
be
funded.
E
E
And
Mr
Speaker
car
programs
have
not
only
been
called
for
for
five
and
a
half
years
by
the
official
opposition
they've
been
called
for
by
Mayors
they've
been
called
for
by
by
police.
They
were,
it
was
a
top
recommendation
in
the
in
the
the
recent
Lepard
report.
It
was
a
recommendation
number
four
of
the
all
Party
Committee
on
reforming
the
police
act.
E
The
fact
the
matter
is
that
the
the
the
committee
on
looking
at
reforming
the
police
act
heard
loud
and
cleared
how
having
both
medical
records
and
police
files,
how
that
allows
for
a
bigger
picture,
a
more
complete
picture
of
a
mental
health
crisis
so
that
the
nurse
and
the
police
officer
can
make
the
most
informed
decision
recommendation
four
of
the
all
Party
Committee
said,
and
I
quote
co-response
models
such
as
car
programs,
end
quote,
so
the
question
to
the
minister
again
is:
what
is
the
minister?
What
the
minister
is
doing
is
not
working.
E
D
E
Mr
Speaker,
when
it
comes
to
just
how
important
these
these
interventions
really
are
for
the
for
all
involved.
It's
it's.
It's
all
about
the
results
and
where
car
programs
aren't
in
place,
the
results
are
very,
very
good,
and
we
hear
in
in
in
some
responses
from
the
minister
that
the
health
authorities
do
their
own
thing.
We
hear
in
other
responses
that
she
actually
has
inserted
herself
and
and
directed
A
a
health
authority
over
here
to
to
do
something,
but
won't
provide
the
same
direction
over
here.
E
Last
year
she
was
directly
asked
to
intercede
with
health
authorities
to
provide
communities
the
much
needed
much
asked
for
car
program,
Services,
Mr
Speaker,
and
you
know
what
a
response
was:
The
Minister's
response
was
this
and
I
quote:
do
I
do
not
get
into
the
small
operational
details?
End
quote:
I.
E
So
Mr
Speaker,
the
the
question
question
is
this:
right
now
this
Minister
could
stand
up.
As
I
said,
she
could
tell
Health
authorities
that
these
car
programs
are
a
priority
of
this
government.
They
must
be
funded
in
the
communities
that
ask
for
them
their
desperately
needed
services.
Will
the
minister
do
that
today.
D
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr
Speaker.
As
I've
said
repeatedly,
we
have
all
options
on
the
table.
We
need
a
diversity
of
responses
and,
as
I
noted
in
my
previous
answer,
when
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
approached
my
Ministry
and
said
that
they
wanted
to
have
expansion
of
the
car
program
funded
because
they
because
Vancouver
Coastal
Health
thought
that
they
had
the
health
resources
and
the
staff
in
place
to
expand
that
car
program.
That
is
what
I
did
and
we
supported
that
that
was
just
one
year
ago.
D
That's
a
recent
example:
the
peer-assisted
care
teams
that
were
the
number
one
recommendation
in
Lepard
Butler.
This
year's
budget
invested
1.26
million
dollars
to
create
new
teams
in
west
Vancouver,
so
in
New
West
and
in
Victoria
to
add
to
the
North
shore
program.
They
are
mobile
teams
that
de-escalate
situations
involving
Mental
Health
crisis
and
they
connect
people
to
community
services
and
supports.
D
So
these
are
people
who
are
in
distress
with
thoughts
of
self-harm
or
suicide.
Families
experiencing
challenges,
substance
use,
loss
of
reality,
feelings
of
hopelessness
and
despair,
social
isolation
and
loneliness,
fear
and
anxiety.
Other
mental
health
problem
challenges.
They
also
help
people
living
with
mental
illness
and
substance
use
and
their
families
keep
connection
to
their
communities
and
to
Health
Services.
They
are
typically
a
combination
of
trained
peers
and
mental
health
professionals,
social
workers,
psychiatric
nurses
to
provide
trauma-informed
culturally
safe
support.
That's
an
example
in
three
communities
with
three
municipalities
and
we're
determined
to
do
more.
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mr
Speaker.
Yesterday
the
legislature's
own
committee
on
drug
toxicity
recommended
a
full
review
of
the
mental
health
act.
They
called
it
outdated.
We've
heard
this
before
the
committee
that
I
sat
on
Mr
Speaker.
The
committee
reviewing
the
police
act
also
called
for
a
full
review
of
the
mental
health
act.
It's
clear
that
we
need
to
change
the
mental
health
services
in
this
province,
but
instead
of
looking
at
the
system
as
a
whole,
what
we've
seen
this
government
and
this
Minister
do
is
invest
in
a
system.
That's
clearly
broken.
F
It's
a
Band-Aid
solution.
It's
not
working,
and
the
legislature
has
heard
that
time
and
again.
In
fact,
members
of
this
own
of
this
house
have
come
together
twice
now
and
implored
the
government
to
change
and
to
review
the
mental
health
act.
So
through
you,
Mr
Speaker
to
the
minister.
When
can
the
public
expect
a
full
review
of
the
mental
health
Act.
D
You
Mr
Speaker,
the
system
of
care
that
we
are
working
hard
to
build
is
what
I
hear
families
and
people
on
the
front
line,
call
for
they
say
it's
decades
overdue,
and
while
we
are
fighting
two
Public
Health
emergencies,
we
are
working
with
health
authorities
and
with
Partners
from
every
sector
of
of
our
Province
and
people
in
particularly
with
lived
and
living
experience.
But
what
they
need
right
now
and
our
very
first
priority
is
getting.
D
D
Considering
all
the
recommendations
of
the
select
standing
committee
on
health
and
its
review
of
my
ministry's
response
to
the
toxic
drug
overdose
crisis,
I'm
reviewing
all
their
recommendations
with
gratitude
to
the
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
people
across
the
province
that
put
their
personal
experiences
and
their
lives
on
the
line.
That's
what
I'm
focused
on
is
what
people
with
members.
C
D
F
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
while
this
minister
is
and
other
ministers
are
reviewing
the
recommendations
that
have
come
now
from
two
committees
made
up
of
colleagues
of
this
legislative
assembly
imploring
the
government
to
review
the
mental
health
act,
one
as
late
as
just
yesterday
that
table
was
reported,
a
report
was
put
on
the
table.
The
the
reality
of
it
is
is
that
we
have
known
that
this
has
been
a
problem
for
a
long
time,
they're
reviewing
the
recommendations,
wine
and
we're
investing
millions
of
dollars
in
a
system
that
is
fragmented
and
broken.
F
That
is
what
we're
hearing
time
and
time
again
from
those
people
that
are
coming
and
submitting
their
their
feedback
to
these
committees.
This,
the
the
mental
health
act,
is
actually
overseen
by
the
minister
of
Health,
and
so
what
we
have
here
is
we
have
a
mental
health
act.
We
have
two
ministers
that
oversee
this.
The
the
this
law
that
we
have
is
working
against,
creating
a
better
system
of
mental
health,
no
amount
of
money
that
this
Minister
and
this
government
is
going
to
invest
in
it
will
change
that.
F
It's
like
trying
to
eat
soup
with
a
fork:
Mr
Speaker,
the
police
act
committee,
the
mental
health
act
committee
or
the
the
the
police
act
committee
and
the
health
committee
have
both
said
review
the
mental
health
act.
It
echoes
the
representative
of
Children
and
Families,
the
ombuds
person
and
several
Community
organizations.
My
question
is
to
the
minister
of
health:
will
he
commit
to
reviewing
the
mental
health
Act.
D
You
thank
you
say
again
in
a
time
of
two
Public
Health
emergencies.
Our
Focus,
very
first
of
all,
is
on
standing
up
the
supports
that
save
people's
lives
right
now.
The
work
that
needs
to
be
done
right
now,
we've
created
a
hundred
new
positions,
funding
early
psychosis
intervention.
Those
interventions
early
can
save
young
people
from
a
lifetime
of
struggling
with
psychosis,
we've
added,
almost
50
000
new
positions
or
places
where
people
can
connect
with
mental
health.
D
Counseling
we're
funding
the
health
authorities
to
offer
culturally
informed
indigenous
healing
service
provision
and
and
in
time
we
will
I'm
sure
together,
review
the
mental
health
act
but
I'll
point
to
where
we
do
and
in
a
surgical
way.
The
interventions
that
Advocates
and
people
lived
experience
ask
us
for
right
now.
It
was
just
this
spring
that
in
this
chamber,
an
amendment
to
the
mental
health
act
to
provide
rights,
advice
service
was
introduced
and
initiated
by
the
premier
designate
incoming
Premier.
D
That's
the
kind
of
work
for
the
first
time
in
British,
Columbia's
history,
providing
rights,
advice
for
service
for
people
who
are
admitted
involuntarily
under
the
mental
health
act.
That
is
the
kind
of
immediate
work
and
that
our
government
has
proved
again
and
again,
we
will
intervene
and
make
changes
where
people
ask
us
to
in
the
way
that
actually
affects
lives.
Right
now,.
G
Mr
Speaker,
for
the
last
few
years
now,
we've
been
listening
not
only
to
the
the
citizens
of
British
Columbia
talk
about
the
the
drug
crisis
we
have
and
the
Mental
Health
crisis
we
have
NBC.
We've
been
listening
to
the
recommendations
coming
from
the
the
reports,
we've
been
listening
to
the
minister
talking
about
keeping
all
options
on
the
table
open.
So
it's
clear
now
that
that's
not
the
problem.
G
G
G
G
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker.
Allow
me
to
address
first
of
all,
the
beginning
part
of
the
member's
question
where
he
says
I
have
not
done
my
job.
There
has
never
been
a
place
in
Canada
where
a
provincial
government
on
the
basis
of
intervention
in
overdose
crisis
has
achieved
decriminalization
of
people
who
use
drugs.
We.
D
C
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Speaker,
right
now
to
the
members
question.
At
the
end
of
his
question.
Right
now,
people
are
detained
involuntarily
under
the
mental
health
act.
That
is
a
tool
that
exists,
and
there
are
people
that
are
detained
involuntarily
in
the
psychiatric
forensic
system
coming
out
of
Corrections
people
that
are
found
not
criminally
responsible.
D
There
are
in
it,
but
the
real
focus
of
our
work
has
been
on
building
up
the
voluntary
system
of
care,
one
that
did
not
exist
in
sufficient
Scope.
When
we
took
government,
we've
opened
more
than
300
addiction
treatment,
beds,
voluntary.
D
We
are
opening
complex
care
housing
for
people,
for
whom
Supportive
Housing
is
not
enough,
and
people
that
tend
to
be
evicted
because
of
untreated
mental
health
and
addictions.
We've
opened
the
redfish,
Healing
Center
105
Beds,
which
have
some
involuntary
beds
some
voluntary
beds
across
the
Continuum.
We
are
we.
We
are
building
the
system
of
care
that
people
need
and
deserve.
G
End
quote:
that's
coming
from
the
coroner
and
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
a
shock
that
the
British
Columbia
is
that
mandatory
treatment
is
now
in
place
in
BC,
I
didn't
see
any
announcements,
I
didn't
see
any
debate
net,
so
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
the
record
and
where
that
came
up,
the
number
of
young
people
that
are
dying
keeps
going
up
in
British
Columbia.
Last
year,
a
record
30
young
people
died
200
percent
higher
than
2016..
G
D
The
bill
that
my
predecessor,
Judy
Darcy,
brought
in
to
this
chamber,
was
not
for
forced
treatment.
That
is
not
something
that
our
government
has
ever
proposed
legislatively
or
through
a
programmatic
setting.
The
the
in
the
scope
of
the
form,
the
bill
formerly
known
as
22,
was
that,
following
an
overdose
that
young
people
be
have
a
cooling
period,
ideally
for
48
hours,
maybe
as
long
as
a
week
where
they
could
stabilize
after
an
overdose
and
have
the
opportunity
to
be
connected
with
treatment
off
options.
But
there
was
no
consideration,
no
contemplation
of
forced
treatment.
D
We
make
our
investments
based
on
evidence
and
evidence,
says:
forced
treatment
does
not
work.
What
we
heard
at
the
time
was
that
particularly
from
indigenous
leaders,
but
also
many
civil
liberties
Advocates,
including
the
representative
Children
and
Youth,
on
the
corner,
that
they
wanted
us
to
revisit
the
legislation
and-
and
that
was
the
announcement
that
I
made
last
year-
that
we
would
not
proceed
with
Bill
22,
but
we
would
instead
co-develop
with
First
Nations
leadership
a
way
to
provide
young
people
following
an
overdose.
A
You
Mr
Speaker.
Last
week,
parents
of
autistic
children
stood
outside
the
incoming
premier's
constituency
office
in
the
pouring
rain
fighting
for
their
children,
calling
on
him
to
stop
the
NDP
clawback
on
autism
funding.
It
has
been
a
year
since
this
government,
since
this
Minister
have
announced
this
clawback
the
funding
that
these
families,
these
children
depend
on
that
these
children
need
the
added
strain,
and
the
added
stress
caused
by
this
minister
to
these
families
is
immeasurable.
H
You,
honorable
speaker,
it
is
important
to
listen
to
parents
and
to
families
and
to
children,
and
to
Youth
and
I,
have
been
listening
very
carefully
to
families
and
to
parents,
and
I
will
continue
to
listen
to
families
and
to
parents
and
where
I
hear
concerns
I.
Take
those
very
seriously
honorable
speaker,
I've,
been
listening
to
a
large
range
of
families
and
I've
also
been
hearing
from
other
from
many
families
that
their
children
have
been
left
behind,
that
they
haven't
had
access
to
services
that
they
need.
H
Recommendations
from
the
representative
for
children,
youth
and
recommendations
from
a
committee
of
this
very
legislature
that
we
need
to
move
towards
the
needs
based
system.
The
current
Patchwork
is
leaving
too
many
children,
youth
behind
and
services
are
locked
behind
a
diagnosis.
What
that
does
honorable
speaker
is?
It
causes
a
delay
in
in
children
accessing
services
and
that
isn't
good
for
their
development.
H
H
H
You,
honorable
speaker,
we've
had
repeated
recommendations
from
the
representative
for
children,
youth
who
we
listen
to
and
we're
also
listening
to
families,
indigenous
rights
and
title
holders,
service
providers,
Community
agencies,
but
just
to
reinforce
the
need
to
change
the
system.
I'd
like
to
offer
some
words
from
the
representative
for
children,
youth
from
September
this
year.
We
fundamentally
need
to
transform
the
services
and
support
for
Children
and
Youth
with
special
needs
and
their
families.
Thousands
of
children
aren't
getting
Services
right
now,
so
we
absolutely
need
to
shift.
H
The
system
has
not
been
easy
to
navigate
so
that
some
families,
including
families
with
autism,
have
not
been
able
to
access
the
services.
In
addition
to
that,
there
hasn't
been
anything
for
some
families
to
even
navigate
because
there
are
virtually
no
resources.
The
system
needs
to
change
honorable
speaker
and
that's
what
we're
doing.