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From YouTube: OCT 5 2022 Question Period
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The Legislative Assembly of British Columbia
3rd Session
42nd Parliament
C
C
The
attorney
this
attorney
general
has
even
dismissed
the
stories
of
these
victims,
as
and
I
quote,
anecdotal
rhetoric.
End
of
quote.
That
is
shameful.
Will
this
government
admit
that
the
catch
and
release
program
of
the
former
Attorney
General
is
a
failure
and
direct
Crown
counsel
prosecutors
to
request
the
Detention
of
prolific
offenders
who
are
terrorizing
our
communities.
A
Colombians
Mr
Speaker
British
Columbia
share
the
frustration
that
this,
the
member
adverts
to
but
Mr
Speaker.
His
own
colleague
has
pointed
out
what
I
believe
I
had
said
that
it
is
futile
to
just
charge
people.
In
fact,
the
member
for
Surrey
South
herself,
a
police
officer,
said
this
on
August
31st.
We
cannot
arrest
our
way
out
of
these
problems
and
Mr
Speaker
she's
right.
A
Yeah,
the
opposition
leader
is
out
of
step
with,
with
the
experts
with
even
with
the
police
and
even
with
his
own
new
colleague,
Mr
Speaker.
They
have
ignored
the
evidence
and
dismissed
it
of
the
expert
report
by
a
former
Vancouver
Police
Chief
Lepard
and
Dr
Amanda
Butler,
who
had
many
recommendations,
many
of
which
we've
three
of
which
we've
already
accepted
and
are
implementing,
and
others,
of
course,
that
we
are
looking
at
closely
the
former
government
dismantled.
A
Just
one
of
those
examples
was
the
very
successful
repeat,
offender
management
pilot
project
that
was
shown
to
reduce
reoffending
by
40
percent.
In
its
first
year,
Mr
Speaker,
the
opposition
leader,
does
a
disservice
to
the
complexity
of
these
issues
that
communities
are
facing
caused
by
the
effects
of
the
pandemic
Federal
legislation,
which
they
don't
want
to
talk
about,
and
the
fact
that
we
have
a
lot
to
do
with
local
governments
to
and
community
service
agencies,
to
step
up
and
do
this
in.
A
C
Well,
thank
you
Mr
Speaker,
where
do
I
even
begin?
Well,
why
don't
I
begin
with
the
co-chair
of
the
report
that
the
member
goes
on
about
who
loves
to
post
tweets?
For
example,
this
is
Amanda
Butler
I'm,
referring
to
like
defund
the
police?
Well,
that
tells
you
what
you
need
to
know
about
the
kind
of
advice
this
attorney
general,
the
former
Attorney
General,
wants
to
take
when
it
comes
to
reforming
the
crisis.
That's
taken
place
in
every
community
in
this
province.
The
Attorney
General
continues
to
ignore
the
devastating
impact.
C
This
increase
in
violent
crime
is
having
on
innocent
victims,
and
it's
not
just
him.
Ndpmlas
refused
to
stand
up
for
their
constituents
and
denounce
the
Attorney
General's
catch
and
release
system.
The
minister
of
State
for
trade
says
nothing
about
the
lawlessness
graffiti
and
unprovoked
stabbings
that
are
taking
place
in
our
once
beautiful
Chinatown.
C
The
minister
for
mental
health
and
addictions
is
silent
about
the
random
murders
taking
place
in
local
coffee
shops
in
the
local
park,
and
the
MLA
for
Vancouver
Falls
Creek
refuses
to
speak
up
about
the
total
disorder
and
Chaos
in
Yaletown,
where
only
recently
a
young
man
was
stabbed
to
death
by
a
random
stranger.
People
are
literally
living
in
fear
of
going
out
in
their
communities
across
this
province.
As
a
result
of
five
years
of
the
worst
attorney
general
we've
had
in
the
history
of
this
province,
who
now
wants
to
be
in
the
next
Premier.
C
E
Thank
you,
honorable
speaker
and
I
appreciate
the
the
members
question.
But
what
I
also
want
to
know
is
is
the
fact
that
this
member
seemed
to
think
the
solution
to
the
challenges
that
communities
face
around
violent
crime
is
done
by
slogeneering.
It's
not
it's
done
by
a
government-taking
action
on.
B
B
E
Build
to
what's
happening
today,
which
is
actioned
by
this
government.
Let's
start
with
this
record
new
member
from
Surrey
used
to
be
a
police
officer.
There
was
a
time
in
this
province.
You
would
think,
as
a
police
officer,
that
only
the
cops
should
get
body
armor,
not
the
bad
guys.
Well,
when
we
sat
on
that
side
of
the
house
and
introduced
a
private
members
Bill
to
regulate
body
order,
to
keep
it
out
of
the
hands
of
the
the
Thugs
and
the
criminals,
guess.
F
E
C
B
G
G
The
basic
responsibility
of
the
Attorney
General
is
to
keep
people
safe,
but
he
is
failing
just
like
the
former
Attorney
General
and
yesterday.
He
finally
admitted
that
he
has
the
power
to
issue
directives
that
could
end
Catch
and
Release,
but
instead
of
acting,
he
wants
to
examine
it
further.
He
wants
to
launch
another
consultation,
followed
by
No
Doubt
and
engagement,
leading
to
the
creation
of
a
committee.
Well,
I
can
tell
you
Mr
Speaker
that
people
are
sick
and
tired
of
the
ndp's
excuses,
studies
and
committees.
They
want
results.
G
B
E
General
thank
you,
honorable,
speaker
and
and
and
standing
up
because
I
just
listened
to
the
question
from
the
member
and
I
appreciate
the
question
and
I
appreciate
how
she
asked
it.
But
the
nice
thing,
honorable
member
and
you
should
remember
this
from
your
side
on
this
side
of
the
house-
is
the
government
house
leader
can
get
up
and
ask
answer
any
question
that
they
choose
to
so
honorable
speaker
on.
E
Speaker,
the
member
talked
about
committees
and
studies
and
I
just
want
to
remind
that
member,
as
she
said,
on
August
31st.
This
is
a
very
complex
issue.
You
don't
just
arrest
yourself
out
of
it.
You
need
to
take
a
whole
range
of
actions
and
that's
what
the
study
into
that
we
asked
to
be
commissioned,
has
done
and
critical
recommendations
of
that
are
being
implemented
right
now,
and
one
of
those
is
the
the
the
the
prolific
offenders
Management
program,
which
was
cut
by
that
governmental.
E
F
E
Honorable
speaker,
honorable
speaker,
we
are
ensuring
whether
it
is
police
and
getting
the
resources
that
they
need
doing
what
they're
asking
us
to
do,
whether
it
is
increasing
the
resources
available
in
the
crown
prosecutorial
service
or
whether
it's
increasing
the
mental
health
services
that
are
required.
The
whole
complex,
that's
of
of
initiatives
required
to
deal
with
the
challenges,
meaning
one.
Those
who
suffer
from
mental
health
problems,
get
the
help
and
child
the
help
that
they
need
and
Those
who
commit
violent
crime
go
to
jail
where
they
belong.
B
G
G
Ottawa
and
talk
to
the
feds
he's
repeatedly
used
the
federal
bill
c-75
as
an
excuse
for
inaction,
but
the
last
time
he
was
in
Ottawa
as
an
MP.
He
was
praising
the
measures
of
Bill
c-75
and
I
quote,
requiring
that
the
least
onerous
form
of
release
he
imposed
is
a
good
thing.
The
bail
reform
Provisions
in
c75
or
exemplary
end
quote
this
attorney
general
has
no
credibility
when
it
comes
to
being
tough
on
prolific
offenders.
Just
like
the
former
Attorney
General,
who
wrote
the
handbook
called
how
to
sue
the
police.
A
Your
speaker,
it's
clear
that
the
member
has
changed
the
position
that
she
understood
and
advocated
on
August
31st.
This
is
not
Mr
Speaker,
a
simple
question
of
arresting
ourselves
out
of
this
problem,
the
the
clear
record
we
we
accept
that
people
must
have
must
face
the
consequences
for
criminal
activity
and
strong
enforcement
is
required,
Mr
Speaker
and
we
need
to
be,
as
my
colleague
pointed
out,
tough
on
the
causes
of
crime
as
well.
Now
it's
not
just
bill
c-75,
which
is
an
issue.
It
is
also
soul
and
the
and
of
course
it's
the
implementation.
A
A
deep
breath,
it's
the
implementation
of
Bill
75
over
time
by
the
courts,
which
has
also
been
a
problem.
Mr
Speaker
in
the
2020,
the
Supreme
Court
of
Canada,
made
a
judgment
called
Zora,
which
is
a
case
that
said
the
following.
The
default
form
of
bail
for
most
crimes
is
release
on
an
undertaking
to
attend
trial
without
any
other
conditions.
Bail
conditions
can
be
imposed,
but
only
if
they
are
clearly
articulated
minimal
in
number
necessary
reasonable,
the
least
onerous
in
the
circumstances
and
sufficiently
linked
to
the
accused
risk
Mr
Speaker.
A
That
is
what
the
Supreme
Court
of
Canada
did
with
the
legislation
which
the
member
refers.
We
need
to
understand
how
we
can
ensure
that
people
face
consequences
in
bail
and
be
remanded
where
appropriate,
Mr
Speaker-
that
is
I,
do
not
apologize
for
trying
to
understand
with
our
federal
colleagues
how
we
can
do
better
in
that
regard.
A
Mr
Speaker
this
started
because
the
Urban
Marist
came
to
this
government
and
asked
to
collaborate
in
their
Community
with
with
us
to
deal
with
real
problems,
problems
that
we
are
equally
concerned
about,
involving
repeat
offenders
and
random
violent
effects
in
their
community
in
their
communities.
We
are
working
with
them
and
they've
been
supportive
of
our
efforts
in
response
to
the
Lepard
Butler
report.
I
intend
and
make
no
apologies
for
to
make
sure
that
our
federal
colleague
understands
that
as
well.
A
B
H
You
Mr
Speaker.
Last
week,
Coastal
Gas
link
pipeline
company
began
drilling
under
the
woods
in
qua
also
known
as
the
Maurice
River
in
the
wet
Sultan
territory.
At
the
very
same
time
as
five
species
of
the
iconic
Pacific
salmon
were
spawning
in
that
River
Mr
Speaker
Coastal
gaslink
cannot
be
trusted
to
protect
our
environment.
H
In
fact,
this
company
has
already
been
issued:
51
warnings,
16
orders
and
two
fines
by
the
BC
environmental
assessment
office,
they've
damaged
Wetlands
rivers
and
lakes
along
the
pipeline
route,
now
they're
drilling
just
a
stone's
throw
away
from
millions
of
salmon
eggs
imperiling
an
entire
generation
of
salmon.
As
I
looked
into
this,
there
was
a
mess
of
compliance
and
Regulatory
issues
with
this
project
and
absolutely
no
responsibility
being
taken
by
environment
by
energy
or
by
the
federal
government.
H
Everybody
with
any
Authority
is
just
standing
on
the
sidelines,
while
this
company,
with
an
a
terrible
environmental
record,
drills,
digs
and
blasts
under
the
largest
remaining
spawning
Chinook
spawning
grounds
in
the
skina
system.
My
question
is
to
the
minister
of
environment
and
climate
change
strategy.
One
thing
is
clear:
if
this
company
is
not
in
compliance
with
their
agreements,
orders
and
environmental
regulations,
the
minister
has
a
responsibility
to
issue
a
stop
work
order.
Will
he
do
that
today
until
this
gov,
this
company
gets
into
compliance.
I
You
very
much
honorable
speaker,
thank
you
to
the
member
for
the
question.
I,
however,
reject
the
premise
of
his
statement
that
we,
that
the
environmental
assessment
office
and
that
responsible
officials
have
stood
by
and
done
nothing.
That
is
simply
not
true.
Multiple
inspections
have
taken
place.
Multiple
investigations
have
taken
place,
significant
penalties
have
been
issued.
We
recently
added
to
our
ability
to
control
what
this
company
does
and
keep
a
watchful
eye
over
them
and
take
appropriate
action
by
entering
into
a
compliance
agreement,
which
is,
in
addition
to
the
conditions
that
exist
in
the
certificate.
I
H
Well,
I
think
the
minister
knows
that
even
that
there's
a
compliance
agreement
that
they're
out
of
compliance
from
that
compliance
agreement
according
to
reviews
that
were
done
in
August,
but
yesterday,
Mr
Speaker,
just
Switching
gears
a
little
bit
on
this
important
issue.
We
recognize
the
day
of
action
to
stop
violence
against
indigenous
women,
specifically
the
shameful
reality
of
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
women,
girls,
two-spirit
and
gender
diverse
people
in
this
province.
H
It's
a
choice:
to
spend
hundreds
of
millions
of
taxpayer
dollars
continuing
to
lose
the
same
legal
battles
repeatedly
in
the
years
since
this
BC
NDP
government
took
office
continues
at
Great
taxpayer
expense
to
invest,
subsidize,
defend
and
celebrate
an
industry
knowing
the
unacceptable
violence
that
shrouds
it
through.
You,
honorable
speaker
to
the
minister
of
indigenous
relations
and
Reconciliation
yesterday,
he
asked
the
public
to
stop
acting
violently
against
indigenous
women
and
girls.
E
Safety,
thank
you,
honorable,
speaker
and
I
appreciate
the
the
question
from
the
the
motion
as
a
member.
Well
knows,
because
we've
addressed
questions
similar
to
what
he's
just
asked.
In
the
past,
the
there
is
an
injunction
in
place
on
the
the
pipeline.
E
There
have
been
protesters
up
there.
The
police
have
to
enforce
that
injunction.
They
do
it
in
a
variety
of
of
ways.
They.
Their
first
line
is
always
to
try
and
de-escalate
and
to
use
diplomacy,
as
the
member
says,
to
to
be
able
to
resolve
disputes.
E
But
we
also
know
that
there
have
been
situations
where
small
bands,
small
groups
outside
the
main
protesters
have
themselves
engaged
in
violent
activity,
and
we
saw
that
at
a
work
camp
we
saw
that
where
workers
were
swamped
were
sworn
equipment
was
damaged,
buildings
were
damaged
and
the
police
have
to
deal
with
those
situations.
They
make
operational
decisions
based
on
the
situation
based
on
the
situation
on
the
ground
on
little
speaker
and
there
and
and
there-
and
there
are.
E
There
are
processes
and
legislation
and
rules
and
protocols
in
place
that
if
there
are
things
that
they
will
themselves
be
held
accountable
and
those
actions
are
often
taken
honorable
speaker,
so
they
have
a
very
difficult
job
and
they
are
doing
it.
But
I
can
tell
you.
I
can
tell
you
honorable
speaker
that
their
first
line
of
defense
is
or
first
line
of
intervention
is
to
de-escalate
and
to
resolve
peacefully.
J
J
In
Kelowna,
on
Monday,
a
man
well
known
to
police
was
arrested
for
break
and
Enter.
This
suspect
is
listed
on
220
police
files,
including
shoplifting
theft
to
vehicle,
causing
a
disturbance
and
assault.
He
has
been
convicted
33
times
since
2017,
but
shockingly
as
of
last
night.
This
prolific
offender
is
back
out
on
the
streets
and
in
our
community.
J
A
General
well,
thank
you
to
The
Honorable
member
for
her
question,
I'm,
aware
of
the
situation
in
Kelowna,
of
course,
and
it's
one
that
I've
spoken
to
the
mayor
of
light
and
others
at
the
ubcm
and
elsewhere.
Mr
Speaker,
I,
I,
think
the
frustration
the
member
speaks
of
is
something
we
all
share.
We
need
and
people
deserve
to
feel
safe
in
Kelowna
and
everywhere
in
our
community.
That
is
why
we
need
to
have,
in
our
judgment,
both
hard
on
crime
and
hard
on
the
causes
of
crime
approach.
A
That's
what
I'm
trying
to
suggest
is
our
is
our
position
now
Mr
Speaker.
Our
government
has
a
talented
Cadre
of
Crown
Council
500
in
number,
in
Kelowna
and
elsewhere,
led
by
an
individual
appointed
under
the
leadership
of
the
former
government,
who
every
day
is
process,
bringing
cases
getting
reports
from
Crown
counts
to
Crown
Council
from
the
police
and
advancing
them
through
the
criminal
justice
system,
Mr
Speaker,
we
have
increased
the
budget
of
that
entity
by
almost
a
third,
since
we
took
power,
Mr
Speaker.
A
That
is
the
kind
of
thing
we're
doing
to
try
to
keep
people
safe
in
Kelowna.
But
in
conversations
with
the
mayor
and
its
Council,
we
understand
there's
a
lot
more.
That
can
be
done,
and
that
is
why
we
welcome
their
strong
support
for
the
the
part
Butler
report,
and
there
are
the
fact
that
we
are
implementing
parts
of
it
now
and
more
to
come
later
has
been
appreciated
by
them
and
other
Urban
Mayors.
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
Mr,
Speaker
and
we're
going
to
do
it.
K
K
When
this
government
first
promised
gas
price
relief
back
in
2018
four
years
ago,
prices
were
at
about
50
a
liter
today,
heading
into
the
long
weekend
where
families
across
British
Columbia
will
gather
for
the
Thanksgiving
drivers
could
be
facing
record
high
gas
prices
of
up
to
two
dollars
and
fifty
cents,
a
literally
the
worst
part
of
this
Mr
Speaker
is
the
is
that
the
NDP
have
done
absolutely
nothing
to
solve
the
high
cost
of
gas
in
this
province.
Other
than
setting
up
a
meaningless
website
that
publishes
information.
That's
already
publicly
available.
K
D
Thanks
very
much
Mr,
Speaker
and
I
want
to
thank
the
member
for
the
question.
It
is
an
important
question
in
today's
British
Columbia
economy,
as
inflation
affects
every
part
of
our
economy.
We
understand
and
I
think
every
member
of
the
chamber
understands
the
impact
that
higher
gas
prices
have
on
family
budgets,
but
the
member
opposite
knows
full
well
that
Global
instability
and
Putin's
war
in
the
Ukraine
have
caused
Global
pressure
on
oil
prices.
D
Just
members
in
Vienna
OPEC
decided
to
restrict
production
by
two
million
barrels
a
day,
that's
fully
two
percent
of
Global
Supply
and
that
will
have
an
upward
upward
pressure
on
prices.
But
but
here
in
British
Columbia,
the
member
talks
about
Ontario
and
Alberta
I'll
get
to
Alberta
a
little
bit
later,
but
yeah.
D
What
what
happens
here
is
the
there
are
Regional
factors
that
play
into
increases
in
prices
here
most
much
of
British
Columbia's
Supply
comes
from
South
of
the
Border
experts
like
burner
antwyler,
professor
at
UBC,
Paul
Pasco,
a
fuel
expert,
have
said
that
part
of
that
is
driven
by
Refinery
closures.
Both
scheduled
and
unscheduled
that
have
extended
in
the
case
of
one
in
the
Ohio
extended
will
extend
into
the
new
year
ethanol
crisis,
which
is
a
component.
Remember,
gasoline
corn
prices
have
gone
up,
and
so
that
plays
into
prices
as
well.