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A
Hey
greetings
everyone
I'm
just
looking
to
see.
If
anyone
from
ocm
is
here
and
if
you
are,
do
you
have
a
presentation,
I
want
to
make
sure
you
can
share
your
screen.
B
They're
not
here
yet
Jonah
is
just
about
to
I.
I
did
confirm
earlier
today
and
I'm
about
to
just
send
them
the
link
again,
so
it's
at
the
top
there.
Thank
you.
B
Very
good:
are
we
waiting
for
Pascal
Bernard
as
well.
C
A
We
can
wait
another
minute
Mike.
My
question
is
hi
I'm
Joanne
I'm,
the
chair
of
community
board.
14..
Welcome.
Do
you
have
a
presentation
tonight
and
will
you
be
sharing
your
screen?
If
so,
do
you
want
to
give
it
a
test?
Oh.
C
Sure
yeah
I
can
give
it
a
test
yeah
we
will
I'll
be
showing
a
PowerPoint.
C
Perfect,
okay
did
we
have
a
specific
time
period
that
would
work
best
I
think
this
was
I
half
an
hour,
so
I
can't
remember:
apologies.
A
A
half
an
hour:
well,
how
long
is
your
presentation?
Do
you
suppose.
C
Probably
20
minutes,
but
we
could
you
know.
Certainly
you
know
Whittle,
that
down
by
a
few
minutes
or
so
if,
if
needed,.
A
I
think
we
prefer
or
throw
presentation-
and
you
know
Sean-
do
we
have
pre-registered
speakers
this
evening.
It's
two
just
two,
okay,
great
so
we'll
hear
from
the
pre-registered
speakers.
They
have
three
minutes
we'll
have
for
board
members.
We
should
be
fine
on
time.
Thank
you.
B
C
A
Very
good,
all
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Give
me
one
minute,
just
checking
the
chat.
Thank
you
all
right.
This
public
hearing
is
called
to
order
at
6
35
pm
on
May
18th
2023
by
a
WebEx.
The
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
hear
a
public
testimony
with
respect
to
the
marijuana
regulation
and
Taxation
act,
which
creates
a
comprehensive
regulatory
structure
to
oversee
the
licensure
cultivation,
production,
distribution,
sale
and
taxation
of
medical,
adult
use
and
cannabinoid
hemp
within
the
state
of
New
York.
A
We
will
begin
with
the
presentation
by
representatives
of
New
York
State
Office
of
cannabis
management.
Excuse
me
afterwards.
Those
wishing
to
ask
questions
or
testify
must
State
for
the
record.
Your
name
and
organization,
if
applicable,
prior
to
giving
testimony
I'll
allow
the
members
from
the
office
of
cannabis
management
to
introduce
themselves
go
ahead.
Good.
A
Thank
you
both
for
being
here
tonight.
We
look
forward
to
your
presentation,
feel
free
to
share
your
screen
and
begin.
D
So,
what's
legal
in
New,
York
state
adults
over
21
can
buy
and
possess
up
to
three
ounces
of
cannabis:
flour
up
to
24
grams
of
concentrated
oil,
tinctures,
edible
Vapes
cannabis
can
be
consumed
in
a
private
home
or
state
licensed
on-site
consumption
lounges.
Currently
we
do
not
have
any
licensed
consumption
lounges
as
of
yet
and
vaping
and
smoking
cannabis
is
not
allowed
anywhere
vaping
and
smoking.
Tobacco
is
not
allowed.
D
The
only
time
that
you
cannot
smoke
cannabis
in
the
privacy
of
your
home
is
if
you
again
live
in
a
space
where
smoking
cannabis.
Excuse
me,
smoking
or
vaping
tobacco
is
not
allowed,
and
if
you
live
in
public
housing
because
it
is
still
still
an
illicit
drug
at
the
federal
level,
this
is
a
state
law,
not
a
federal
law.
Next
slide,
please.
D
So
what
is
the
marijuana
regulation
and
Taxation
act?
We
refer
to
it
as
Marta
or
the
mrta.
The
mrta
was
signed
into
law,
March
31st
of
2021,
and
it
created
the
Office
of
cannabis
management,
which
is
overseen
by
fam
five-member
cannabis
control
board
that
was
also
created
under
the
law.
There's
also
a
20-member
cannabis,
Advisory
Board
and
it
legalized
adult
use,
recreational
marijuana
and
expanded
the
state's
existing
medical,
cannabis
and
cannabinoid
hemp
program
and
really
what
legalization
did?
Is
it
shifted?
D
You
know
the
use
of
cannabis,
recreationally
from
you,
know,
criminal
justice
really
to
Public
Health
and
so
think
of
this.
As
a
three-legged
stool,
the
seat
is
public
health
and
the
legs
are
Public
Safety
social
justice
and
economic
development.
Next
slide,
please.
D
D
That
would
disproportionately
impacted
by
cannabis
prohibition,
and
it
also
set
a
goal
of
awarding
50
of
adult
use
licenses
to
Social
and
economic
equity
applicants,
and
so
that
would
be
people
that
come
from
communities
disproportionately
impacted
by
the
war
on
cannabis,
distrust,
farmers,
disabled
veterans
and
so
those
those
would
be.
They
would
fall
as
there
would
be.
D
Equity
applicants
and
also
social
economic
equity
plan
and
programs
to
help
licenses
be
successful,
and
we
actually
just
put
out
our
our
C
plan,
which
is
a
social
economic
equity
plan
and
when
we
send,
after
the
presentation,
give
us
about
a
day
or
two
so
between
Friday
and
Monday,
we'll
be
sending
stuff
to
the
board,
and
you
guys
will
have
all
the
links
next
slide.
D
Please
adult
use
cannabis
taxation,
so
the
way
based
tax
is
replaced
with
the
THC
per
milligram
tax,
and
here
you
see
where
it
is:
it's
0.3
per
milligram
for
Edibles,
0.5,
I'm,
sorry,
0.3
cents
per
milligram
for
edible
0.5
for
flour
and
zero
point
H
for
THC
concentrate
so
think
about
it.
This
way
the
tax,
the
higher
the
THC,
the
higher
the
tax.
D
So
as
you
can
see,
nine
percent
of
the
state
excise
tax
on
sales
of
cannabis
products
by
retailers
to
cannabis,
consumers,
four
percent
of
the
the
local
excise
tax
will
four
percent
of
that
four
percent.
Local
access
tax
will
go
to
the
municipality,
so
25
will
go
to
the
county
75
to
the
city,
Towner
Village
next
slide.
Please.
D
So
how
will
all
the
tax
money
be
used,
and
this
slide
really
addresses
that
so
there's
community
reinvestment,
community,
Grant
reinvestment,
and
so
these
grants
will
go
to
non-profit
and
cbos
and
communities
that
were
disproportionately
impacted
by
prohibition
and
other
social
Equity
initiatives
and
drug
treatment
and
public
education,
and
so
really
think
about
it
as
a
pie
right
and
so
the
the
taxes
will
be
used.
40
percent
for
Education
40
for
the
community,
Grant,
reinvestment
and
20
for
drug
treatment
and
public
education
next
slide.
Please.
D
Opportunities
in
the
industry,
so
the
mrta,
we
have
nine
different
license
types
and,
as
you
can
see,
they're
all
on
your
screen
a
lot
of
times
people
when
they
think
about
the
mrta.
They
think
only
retail
dispensary,
but
certainly
we're
setting
up
an
entire
industry
and
it
needs
a
healthy
cannabis
ecosystem
and
have
a
healthy
cannabis
ecosystem.
We
have
to
have
all
these
nine
different
license
types
additionally,
because
it's
still
elicit
at
the
federal
level.
We
have
to
grow
the
product
here.
D
So
all
the
Cannabis
that's
sold
is
like
is
grown
in
New
York
state,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
retail
Dispensary
on
site
consumption.
Again,
we
do
not
have
that
license
out.
As
of
yet
we're
still
writing
the
regulations,
cultivator
Nursery
process
or
distributor
delivery,
adult
use,
cooperative
and
micro
business.
D
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
you
know
one
of
the
ways
that
we're
crafting
this
industry
here
in
the
state
is
we're
really
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
provide
opportunities
for
small
and
mid-sized
businesses
in
the
state,
as
well
as
other
businesses,
and
so
no
person
may
have
a
direct
or
indirect
interest
across
tiers.
This
includes
stock
ownership,
and
so
we've
created
different
tiers.
D
So
there's
the
supply
tier,
the
retail
tier,
the
medical
tier
and
the
laboratory
tier
and,
as
you
can
see
in
the
supply
chair,
you
have
your
cultivator,
your
Nursery
distributor
or
processor.
In
retail,
you
have
your
dispensary
the
on-site,
consumption
and
delivery
and
then
for
medical.
We
have
the
registered
organizations
that
provide
medical
cannabis
to
patients
across
the
state,
and
then
we
have
the
Laboratories
and
those
are
the
sampling
firms,
and
you
know
that
tier
is
really
important,
because
that's
how
New
Yorkers
know
that
they're
getting
safe
tested
products
next
slide.
Please.
D
And
and
conditional
licenses,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
when
you
know
we,
the
law
came
on
and
you
know
the
office
was
formed
was
really
wanted
to
you
know
we
wanted
to
jump,
start
the
industry,
and
so
we
created
these
adult
use
licenses
these
conditional
licenses.
So
we
just
talked
about
the
mrta
licenses,
so
there
are
nine
licenses
and
the
licenses
are
in
the
regulations
in
in
the
regulations
package
passed
by
the
Cannabis
control
board
on
May
11th,
and
then
we
have
these
conditional
licenses
again.
D
It
was
a
way
to
jumpstart
the
industry
here
in
the
state.
These
are
Standalone
systems,
so
think
about
it
as
two
paths
right,
there's
the
mrta
licenses
and
then
there's
a
conditional
licenses,
and
so
we
can.
We
created
three
conditional
licenses.
The
adult
use
conditional
cultivator
license
the
adult
use,
conditional
processor
license
and
the
adult
use
retail
dispensary.
So
you
have
to
grow
it.
You
have
to
process
it,
and
then
you
sell
it.
So
that's
what
those
three
licenses
do
next
slide.
Please
and
So.
D
Currently,
we
have
about
279
conditional
cultivators
with
additional
applications
under
review
with
the
processors
we
have
about
40,
with
additional
applications
under
review
and
for
the
conditional
adult
retail
dispensary.
We
call
that
card.
We
have
215
with
additional
215
licensees
with
additional
applications
under
review
and
so
to
get
a
card
license.
D
There
are
two
Pathways
one
was
nonprofits
that
you
know
were
were
surfacing
intentionally
servicing
just
as
involved
individuals
and
engage
in
Social
Enterprise
and
then
the
other
is
the
individual
license,
and
so
you
had
to
have
been
justice
involved
with
a
cannabis,
a
New,
York
state,
cannabis,
related
conviction
and
experience,
owning
and
operating
a
qualifying
business,
and
so
the
individual
could
have
applied
or
qualifying
family
members,
such
as
a
parent
or
Guardian,
a
child
or
dependent
or
a
spouse.
D
Next
slide,
please
the
role
of
the
community
board.
Why
we're
here
tonight
so
the
community
boards
per
the
Cannabis
law,
Community
boards
and
municipalities,
are
allowed
to
prove
allowed
the
opportunity
to
provide
you
know
their
advisory
opinion
on
whether
to
support
the
Cannabis
control
board,
approval
of
a
retail
dispensary
on-site
consumption
or
registered
organization
with
dispensing
licenses
in
their
Area
Community
boards
do
not
have
a
role
in
other
cannabis
license
types.
D
So
remember
we
talked
about
the
nine
license
types,
and
so
the
community
board
does
not
have
a
role
in
the
nursery
cultivator,
processor
distributor,
but
again
for
the
retail
dispensary
or
the
on-site
consumption
and
for
registered
organizations
and
remember
we
talked
about
the
two
retail
dispensers
right,
there's
one
in
the
mrta
and
then
the
one
for
the
conditional.
All
of
that
is
retail
dispensary.
So
for
both
of
those
license
types,
they
would
come
before
the
community
board
next
slide.
Please.
D
So
people
or
businesses
who
apply
for
retail,
dispensary
on-site
consumption
need
to
submit
notification
to
their
that
their
proposed
location
is
within
the
boundaries
of
your
community
board.
So
we
have
a
30-day
notification
form
that
the
licensees
have
to
complete
and
send
to
the
community
board.
So
we
go
to
the
you
know.
D
The
community
board
typically
I,
think
the
first
people
to
see
are
the
staff
because
they're
there
and
the
community
board
opinion
will
become
part
of
the
record
upon
which
the
Cannabis
control
board
shall
Grant
or
deny
an
application
for
a
cannabis.
Licensee
and
applicants
should
be
afforded
the
appropriate
amount
of
time
needed
for
municipalities
to
opine
on
the
proposed
cannabis
location.
D
So
again,
once
the
licensee
determines
their
location,
they
will
then
send
a
30-day
notification
to
the
community
board
and
that
would
start
the
process
of
them
coming
before
the
board
and
the
board
providing
the
control
the
Cannabis
control
board.
There
advisory
opinion
on
whether
or
not
they
think
this
licensee
should
operate
in
the
chosen
location
next
slide.
Please
I
think
yep.
So
now,
I
turn
it
over
to
my
colleague
Phil.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Pascal
yeah,
so
I
want
to
start
off
here
talking
about
ocm
enforcement
activities.
So
after
the
passage
of
the
mrta
and
up
until
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
ocm
had
a
very
specific
parameters
that
we
could
operate
under
the
mrta.
The
marijuana
regulation,
taxation
that
gave
ocm
the
power
over
licensed
businesses
in
the
Cannabis
industry.
C
C
Identifying
these
unlicensed
operators
on
fines,
store
closures
and
again
not
having
power
over
the
non-permitted
stores
was
a
immense
issue
for
us.
During
that
time
period,
starting
in
January
of
2022,
we
began
sending
out
seasoned
assist
letters
to
operators
that
of
the
illicit
stores
that
were
flagged
for
us.
C
Our
enforcement
division
was
working
with
DA's
law
enforcement,
multi-agency
task
force
at
the
municipal
level,
using
anything
they
could
a
nuisance
and
abatement
laws
mostly
and
some
Health
laws
as
well
to
try
to
crack
down
on
these
illicit
sites
that
were
certainly
aware,
are
prevalent
throughout
New,
York,
City
and
the
state.
C
So
this
is,
you
know,
part
of
the
enforcement
action
going
into
places
like
this.
This
is
a
before
and
after
picture,
everything
on
the
left
hits
THC
and
we
took
everything
out
of
there
as
you
can
see
on
the
right
side,
and
this
was
during
our
limited
ability
to
really
crack
down
on
these
stores.
We
now
have
new
enforcement
Towers.
C
So,
after
the
passage
of
the
2023
2024
New
York
state
budget,
there
was
a
framework
that
was
established
for
us
to
move
forward
in
a
much
more
effective
manner
against
the
illicit
shop.
So
the
the
budget
and
the
language
in
there
allows
ocm
to
take
enforcement
actions
against
businesses
selling
cannabis
without
the
required
licensed.
C
You
know
the
the
sticker
shops
that
they've
become
known
as
it
does
bolster
the
enforcement
authority
of
ocm.
We
can
conduct
regulatory
inspections
of
all
businesses
selling
and
giving
away
cannabis,
so
that
includes
the
gifting
sticker
stores
and
it
allows
for
the
inspection
of
the
businesses
by
a
court
order
if
the
business
does
not
allow
ocm
to
come
in,
ocm
can
also
seize
cannabis
found
in
unlicensed
cannabis
businesses.
C
C
These
fines
I
do
want
to
flag
now
that
now
that
the
budget
has
passed
and
we're
moving
forward
with
some
emergency
regulations
to
really
tie
all
of
this
in
we're
going
to
be
working
with
Tax
and
Finance,
with
the
Attorney
General's
office
and
ocm
and
the
nuances
of
what
kicks
these
these
things
off,
such
as
civil
penalties,
we're
ironing
that
out
right
now,
how
we're
going
to
be
interacting
with
the
different
agencies
and
when
things
will
kick
off
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there.
C
Now
that
we
are
still
in
the
process
of
locking
this
in.
However,
with
these
new
powers,
we
certainly
have
a
very
strong
arm
now
to
go
in
and
crack
down
on
these
properly.
As
soon
as
we
have
more
information
on
the
specifics.
Certainly
the
emergency
regs
we're
trying
to
get
out.
C
So
we
can
solidify
all
of
these
new
powers
and
work
with
the
different
agencies
effectively
and
we'll
certainly
get
that
over
over
to
you
as
soon
as
they
come
out.
C
C
So
ocm
does
have
the
authority
to
revoke,
cancel
or
suspend
any
of
the
licenses
given
out
under
the
the
Cannabis
law.
We
do
have
the
authority
to
conduct
regulatory
inspections,
including
Vehicles,
tied
to
the
businesses,
where
we
believe
the
illicit
activity
is
occurring.
We
now
have
you
know
the
ability
to
to
search
for
medical
cannabis,
adult
use,
cannabis,
cannabis,
product,
cannabinoid,
hemp
and
hemp
extract.
So
this
is
a
very
wide
net
that
we
now
have
to
crack
down
on
the
stores
we
and
any
product.
C
That's
labeled
as
one
of
those
categories
we
will.
We
can
now
assume
that
it
is
cannabis,
since
it's
labeled
that
way
since
they're,
claiming
it
that
since
they're
charging
money
for
it,
we.
E
C
Now
go
on
the
assumption
that
it
is
cannabis
which
allows
for
quicker
reaction
time.
Additionally,
we
do
have
a
verification
tool.
This
isn't
brand
new,
but
on
all
legal
dispensaries.
We
do
have
this
I
think
it's!
You
know
a
good
12,
13
inches
tall,
it's
pretty
prominent
outside
you
can
take
your
phone
scan
the
QR
code
and
it's
going
to
bring
you
to
our
website
where
it
lists
the
legal
dispensaries.
You
can
verify
right
away
just
by
scanning
it
and
it
going
to
our
website
that
this
is
probably
legitimate.
C
And
then
you
can
look
up
the
address
itself.
That's
going
to
help
New
Yorkers
as
we
shut
these
illicit
sites
down
to
navigate
the
legal
dispensary
route
and
just
as
important.
We
still
want
to
hear
from
communities.
If
you.
C
C
We
have
an
email
and
also
a
form
that
you'll
be
able
to
click
on
when
we
send
you
this,
you
can
put
in
as
much
information
as
possible
flag
these
places
for
us
and
that
will
start
off
the
process
of
of
us
categorizing.
These
making
note
of
them
and
starting
the
Outreach
process
to
to
make
sure
that
they're
aware
of
what
they're
doing
is
illegal
retail
guidance.
C
So,
as
Pascal
said,
we're
moving
forward
with
a
card,
the
conditional
adult
use,
retail
dispensary
that
second,
the
the
additional
licensing
path.
That
Pascal
was
talking
about.
This
retail
guidance
is
one
of
the
most
important
documents
we
have
it's
close
to
30
pages
and
it
goes
into
a
granular
level
detail
of
what's
needed
in
order
to
open
up
a
dispensary
right
now.
It
includes
inventory,
tracking
location
security
facility
requirements,
branding
labeling
marketing
and
signage
procedures
that
everyone
will
have
to
follow
before
they
can
open
their
doors,
the
mrta
regulations.
C
So
again,
this
is
the
the
large
nine
license
types
that
was
mentioned
earlier.
We
have
put
these
out
for
their
60-day
comment
period.
They
came
back
to
ocm
February
13th
of
this
year
for
the
60
day
on
May
11th,
the
Cannabis
control
board
cast
the
modified
regulations
based
on
a
60-day
comment
period
and
ocm
is
looking
to
send
those
over
to
New
York's
State
Department
of
State
as
soon
as
possible.
Once
we
get
them
over
there.
C
That
will
kick
off
the
final
most
likely
final
45-day
comment
period
for
the
regulations.
So
once
that
45-day
comment
period
ends,
we
will
have
the
finalized
zoning
regulations
and
standards
for
the
a
vast
majority
of
all
licenses
and
the
canopy
cannabis
industry
as
a
whole.
C
So
the
retail
guidance
document
we
will
certainly
be
sending
this
over
in
the
email
and
I
would
suggest
anyone
taking
a
look
at
it
talks
about
the
Staffing.
We
will
have
an
employee
in
charge
the
facility,
so
when
we
can
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
immediately
if
there's
issues
with
recalls
or
customer
complaints
or
an
issue
that
we're
hearing
about
problems,
we
can
pick
up
the
phone
and
have
a
direct
contact
dispensaries.
C
There
will
be
extensive
training
as
well.
Anyone
working
here
we
call
them
Bud
tenders,
they'll
have
to
go
through
a
written
manual.
There
are
curriculum
requirements,
they
need
to
keep
and
a
tight
record
keeping
from
seed
to
sale
that
we
will
have
access
to
one
of
the
things
we
like
to
flag
here,
and
it
goes
to
the
granular
level
of
detail
that
we
have
with
these
dispensaries.
Is
the
external
signage
they're
limited
to
two
signs?
There's
no
images
symbols
logos
on
them.
C
We
learned
our
lesson
from
the
tobacco
industry
of
not
allowing
entities
to
Market
things
towards
children.
We
control
the
colors
they
can
put
on
their
signs,
the
font
they
can
put
on
their
signs.
C
No
neon
signs
are
allowed,
so
there
won't
be
a
seven
foot
tall
cannabis
leaf
flashing
of
all
all
hours
and
then
there's
no
neon
signs
whatsoever.
So
we
do.
We
we
want
these
to
blend
into
the
community
and
again
that
30-page
document
goes
to
a
lot
of
detail
and
the
signage
is
one
of
them.
C
So
with
that
being
said,
you
know
thank
you
for
letting
us
come
tonight
flag,
two
more
one
more
email
here.
Events
at
ocm.ny.gov
certainly
want
to
hear
about
events
in
your
community
that
you'd
like
us
to
be
aware
of,
and
if
you'd
like,
to
receive
regular
updates
from
the
office,
you
can
sign
up
right
on
our
website.
You
go
to
the
main
page,
it's
just
a
little
bit
down
on
that
page.
You
can
sign
up
for
detailed
information
that
comes
out
of
ocm.
If.
C
So
with
that,
I
will
stop
sharing
my
screen
and
unless
we
addressed
everything
I'm
assuming
there
might
be
a
couple
of
questions
around
so
yeah
happy
to
having
to
take
some.
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
I
wanted
to
go
to
the
registered
speakers
first,
since
we
don't
have
any.
They
haven't
they're,
not
present.
Okay.
So
then
I'll
start
with
the
first
hand
that
went
up
which
is
Sean,
Camp
district
manager,
Sean
Campbell.
A
Alrighty
next
hand
is
board
member
Dwayne,
Joseph.
F
Thank
you
Joanne.
Thank
you
all
from
the
office
of
cannabis
management,
Pascal
and
Philip
for
presenting
tonight
and
I
apologize
for
being
a
little
late
to
it.
All.
F
F
My
question
is
on
what
ends,
or
is
there
plan
to
kind
of
manage
and
monitor
the
landlord's
involvement
in
this
process
because,
for
instance,
on
in
our
the
northern
in
our
district
and
other
parts
of
the
district,
but
I
see
it
because
I
live
in
the
North
End,
a
lot
of
shops
are
popping
up
as
entitling
themselves
as
smoke,
shops
and
I'm
wondering
what
responsibility
a
landlord
has
not
to
rent
to
those
kind
of
shops.
F
If
they
are
aware
of
the
fact
that
they
are
going
to
be
selling
cannabis
products
and
do
not
have
a
license.
C
Yeah,
one
of
the
specific
aspects
actually
in
our
new
kind
of
Power
Range
here
is
to
is
to
how
should
we
put
this
certainly
make
sure
that
landlords
are
aware
of
what's
going
on
in
their
store
is
kind
of
the
foundational
starting
point
for
us.
We
want
to
reach
out
to
them.
C
Make
sure
that
they're,
aware
of
what's
occurring
and
I'm
really
engage
their
response.
If
an
individual
says
we
had
no
idea,
this
was
happening.
We're
going
to
put
an
end
to
this
immediately.
We
can
monitor
that
and
and
make
sure
that
it
actually
occurs.
C
Otherwise,
if
we
do
reach
out
and
and
make
contact
with
a
landlord
and
they're
not
responsive,
or
they
simply
don't
care
what's
happening,
we
do
have
the
power
and
I
believe
this
is
where
the
Attorney
General
would
come
in.
We
can
start
leving
some
fines
against
landlords,
specifically
after
we
go
through
a
filtration
process,
right
we're
not
looking
to
attack
landlords,
we're
not
looking
to
attack
small
businesses.
We're
looking
to
go
after
people
who
are,
we
know,
are
not
following
the
law
and
don't
care
to
once
that
kicks
in.
C
C
So
we
do
have
the
ability
here
to
crack
down
more
effectively
on
landlords
and
certainly
certainly
make
sure
that
anyone
who's
intentionally
allowing
this
to
happen
cannot
proceed
abroad.
The
language
real,
quick,
just
to
be
more
clear
and
if
an
owner
fails
to
remove
the
retailer,
the
owner
May
face
up
to
three
times
the
amount
of
rent
that
was
charged
during
the
violation,
so
the
property
owner
can
be
held
liable
for
the
cost
of
the
legal
proceedings
as
well
to
the
state.
C
So
again,
I
I
consider
this
more
of
a
balancing
act
of
we
are
not
going
out
tomorrow
and
trying
to
take
away
stores
or
start
living.
Fines
against
people
it'll
be
a
strict
scrutiny
before
we
can
Implement
that
and
I'll
flag
again,
we
don't
I,
don't
have
the
granular
details
because
that's
what's
being
worked
out
in
the
emergency
regulations
that
we're
creating
right
now
to
properly
implement
this
across
three
different
bureaucracies.
C
So
we
do
have
that
power
to
go
after
and
inform
landlords
quite
a
bit
and
we'll
be
sending
that
information.
As
I
said,
additional
information
I
don't
know
power
along
with
this
slide
as
well.
F
D
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
question
will
be
from
board
member
Joe
dweck.
G
Oh,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
Pascal
and
and
Philip.
You
folks
must
be
incredibly
frustrated
you.
You
certainly
have
you're
you're
trying
to
empty
an
ocean
with
a
thimble
with
with
the
amount
of
illegal
stuff
going
on,
which
is
not
what
you
intended.
G
Obviously,
the
intent,
it's
very
laudable
for
for
the
people
of
the
community
to
operate
these
these
Shops
and-
and
we
don't
know
if
anybody
who
properly
is
doing
it-
certainly
in
the
taxation
of
the
regulation
of
it-
the
issue
of
right
now,
it's
in
in
schools
right
next
to
schools,
there's
about
a
million
things
that
you
must
be
frustrated
about.
I'd
love
to
know.
G
D
So
I
think
you
know
it's,
you
know
some
of
it
is
what
Phil
talked
about
with
Dwayne's
question
right.
We
have
new
enforcement
powers
and
so
we're
going
to
be
using.
You
know
the
enforcement
powers
to
ensure
that
we
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
New
Yorkers
and
protect
this
emerging
industry
and
then
the
other
part
of
it
is.
We
continue
to
license
individuals
who
who
apply
for
the
conditional
license.
Dispensaries
continue
to
open,
and
so
that
is
the
other
part
of
it
too.
D
So
you
know
it's
it's
not
a
single
track.
There
are
several,
you
know,
kind
of
trains
leaving
the
track,
leaving
the
station
I
should
say
so.
One
is
the
enforcement.
The
other
is
we're
licensing.
People
dispensaries
are
opening
all
across
the
state
and
they
they
will
continue
to
open
and
then
I
think.
The
third
piece,
too,
is
our
public
education
campaign.
We
do
have
a
public
education
campaign.
We
send
the
information
out
Wiley.
D
We
will
make
sure
that
it's
all
it's
in
the
email
that
we're
sending
to
the
board
called
Wi-Fi
legal
and
it
really
explains
to
New
Yorkers
why
they
should
not.
D
You
know
go
to
the
illicit
market
for
product,
and
so
it
is
a
multi-prong
approach
to
dealing
with
this
and
additionally,
we
have
been
dealing
with
enforcement,
as
you
saw
in
in
some
of
the
pictures
and
in
the
slides
that
Phil
talked
about.
We
work
in
conjunction
with
the
New
York
City
Sheriff's
Department,
the
NYPD
local
DA's
in
the
borough
dohmh
department
for
worker
protection.
So
it's
an
intra-agency
task
force
that
really
has
been
dealing
with
this.
D
We
now
have
greater
enforcement
power
and
we'll
be
able
to
do
more,
and-
and
so
it
will
happen
and
I
know
that,
right
now,
as
we're
saying
this,
there
might
be
some
skepticism.
You
know
we're
New
Yorkers
I
get
that,
but
we
literally
just
got
this
this
new
enforcement
power.
What
fell
two
weeks
if
that.
D
Yeah,
so
you
know
we're
we're
creating
the
plan,
but
we
continue
to
investigate.
We
continue
to
go
after
Bad
actors.
D
So
we
agree
that
we
need
to
enforce
everywhere,
and-
and
so
we
we
are
doing
that
and
again
we
will
continue
to
do
that
and
with
the
greater
enforcement
Powers
We
Will
We
Will,
we
will
be
able
to
do
more
and
I
think
as
it
relates
to
schools.
It
and
I'm,
not
sure.
D
If
we
mentioned
this,
but
dispensaries
have
to
be
200
feet
away
from
a
house
of
worship
500
feet
from
a
school
if
there
are
and
as
with
SLA,
if
it's
a
dual
use
building
so
like
with
me,
I
live
in
Harlem,
135th
Street.
We
have
to
order
Marshall
Academy,
but
there's
that
IHOP
also
on
the
ground
level,
so
that
have
500
foot
rule
would
not
would
not
apply
and
it's
the
same
thing
with
SLA.
But
we
do
have
that.
D
So
if
you
see
any
dispensaries
that
are
within
200
feet,
500
feet
house
of
worship
school,
it's
not
a
licensed
dispensary!
D
That's
one
of
the
ways
that
you
know
that
it's
not
a
licensed
dispensary,
but
we're
also
working
with
sister
agencies
and
we're
building,
creating
assets
and
information
to
share
out
with
with
parents
with
Educators
with
kids.
So
that
they
understand
the
dangers
as
well,
so
yes,
we
we
are
enforcing
and
we're
removing.
D
You
know
these
illicit
shops
from
areas
near
schools
and-
and
you
know
other
spaces,
but
we
also
have
to,
in
addition
have
these
conversations
right.
I'm,
a
parent
of
a
15
year
old
and
a
almost
13
year
old
I,
constantly
talk
to
my
kids
about
this
because
they
need
to
know
and
I
help
them
identify.
What
are
the
illicit
shops
like?
That's,
not
legal
and
I
even
tell
them
I
share
with
them
your
brain's
not
fully
formed
until
you're
25..
So
before
you're
25,
you
shouldn't
be
smoking
drinking
nothing.
A
You
thank
you
very
much
I'm
going
to
move
on.
We
have
quite
a
few
questions,
so
the
remaining
people
that
are
going
out
because
we
do
have
a
committee
meeting
after
this
we'll
start
with
Jonathan
Carl,
Sean,
Campbell,
Ornella
Parker
and
then
myself
and
then
we
will
conclude
this
public
hearing.
H
Good
afternoon,
I
was
at
the
sorry
at
the
meeting
on
Tuesday
pass.
If
you
remember,
I
was
with
my
brother.
I
do
have
a
question,
it's
kind
of
kind
of
a
little
repetitive,
but
there
are
over
1400
elicit
stores
in
New,
York
City
and
a
lot
of
them
have
sold
to
minus
I've
encountered.
I've
witnessed
it
with
my
own
two
eyes
in
my
own
neighborhood,
so
I
know,
you
stated
that
you
don't
want
to.
H
You
know,
shut
go
after
these
small
businesses,
but
why
not,
if
they're
doing
something
one,
it's
illegal
already
that
they're
selling
it
and
the
second
part
they
are
selling
it
to
high
school
students,
junior
high
school
kids,
and
why
shouldn't
they
have
a
hefty
fine
or-
or
you
know,
a
hammer,
so
to
speak,
come
down
on
them.
H
E
H
Are
some
is
there
are
some
that
are
specifically
purposely
selling
to
my
tours
Miners
and
the
the
ocm
or
I'm,
not
sure
which
department
have
done
the
raids
where
they
close
them
down,
and
then
they
open
up
the
next
day
under
a
different
LLC
they've,
even
changed
the
name
of
the
shop
outside.
So
it's
not
really
do.
H
Do
you
think
that
you
know,
maybe
you
guys
need
to
come
up
with
a
better
solution
on
how
to
to
prevent
that,
because
it's
like
you
know
a
burn,
Insurance
type
of
business,
that
they're
doing
they're
they're
open
this
week,
then
another
or
another
week,
it's
a
different
business,
a
different
logo,
different
name
I
I-
can
send
you
pictures
like
I
have
proof
of
that.
No.
C
Yeah
and
I
think
part
of
the
frustration
that
we're
feeling
and
that
you're
experiencing
the
same
way
were
the
limited
Towers
we
had
when
the
MRT
was
created.
We
we
did
not
have
power
over
cannabis.
We
had
power
over
individuals
who
had
licenses
from
us
and
obviously
none
of
those
stores
had
licenses
from
us.
They
were
all
illegal.
It's
a
new
world.
Now
that
we
have
these
new
powers,
it's
really
a
game.
C
Changer,
we
literally
had
you
know,
trouble
entering
a
facility
that
was
clearly
selling
illicit
cannabis
because
of
the
powers
we
had
in
the
MRT
or
the
lack
of
powers.
C
We
had
to
use
a
variety
of
ways.
Sometimes,
if
an
individual
had
a
hemp,
a
CBD
license
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
THC
if
they
were
selling
THC
products.
That
was
a
licensed
entity,
so
we
could
go
in
there
immediately
because
we
have
power
over
only
licensed
entities,
so
we
were
always
held
back
constantly.
Now
that
we
have
a
much
broader
range
of
powers,
we
are
going
to
go
after
them.
The
reason
I
wanted
to
say
we
can't
you
know
overnight.
Is
you
know
due
process?
C
We
we
need
to
establish
that
individuals
know
their
breaking
law,
establish
that
they're
ignoring
our
a
cease
and
desist
letters,
and
every
time
that
happens,
every
Notch
we
move
up.
It
gives
us
more
and
more
broader
Authority
through
fines
and
through
taking
the
individual's
right
to
collect
sales.
I
C
Be
able
to
sell
a
stick
of
gum
out
of
that
store
legally,
so
with
the
range
of
powers
you
now
have
I
mean
I
think
we're
mostly
in
agreement
here
with
the
problems
that
are
facing
and
every
time
we
give
out
a
new
license,
there's
more
and
more
people
who
see
this
as
the
truly
impactful
problem
that
it
is
on
the
legal
Marketplace.
So
yeah
we
are
taking
a
lot
of
steps.
C
The
the
individual
asked
the
question
before
about
what
we
can
do
right
now,
we're
continuing
to
send,
cease
and
assist
letters
which
I
know
sound
toothless,
but
they
set
the
Legal
Foundation
for
us
to
move
forward
with
Hefty
fines.
That
was
the
other
problem
we
had.
We
could
bust
these
stores
two
months
ago
and
we
would
charge-
and
you
know,
we'd-
have
the
ability
to
charge
them
five
hundred
dollars
and
they
can
make
that
up
in
five
minutes
of
of
opening
up
their
shop.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We'll
move
on
to
district
manager,
Sean
Campbell.
B
Thank
you
and
I
did
add
a
comment
in
the
chat
that
that
community
members
are
always
welcome
to
call
our
office.
Some
of
the
stuff
is
still
enforceable
by
NYPD
and
the
sheriff's
office,
so
we
were
working
with
ocm's
expanded
Powers.
We
can
certainly
suss
out
the
most
expeditious
way
to
to
address
some
of
these
concerns,
but
I
I
kind
of
want
to
get
into
some
details
of
the
process
and
I'm
going
to
say
some
things
that
I
know
you've
heard
before
at
ocm.
B
But
a
30-day
notification
is
really
close
to
inadequate,
depending
on
a
board.
A
board
calendar
goes
out
two
weeks
before
the
following
month
and
we
have
a
charter
mandated
legal
obligation
to
inform
the
public
10
days
in
advance
of
a
public
hearing,
and
then
the
recommendation
from
that
hearing
has
to
go
to
a
full
board
meeting.
So
because
of
all
of
the
vagaries
of
all
of
you
know
these
these
dates
falling
into
place
so
that
we
can
fit
it
in
into
30
days.
B
It
just
isn't
going
to
happen
as
often
as
it
might
need
to
happen.
So
so
I
know
you've
heard
the
the
the
request
for
an
extended.
Even
60-day
notification
come
before
you
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
sensitive
sites.
B
I
know
the
200
foot
rule
and
the
500
foot
rule
for
exclusive
use,
schools
and
houses
of
worship
and
I
think
you
didn't
mention
unless
I
missed
it
there's
also
a
1
000
foot
rule
where
a
licensed,
a
licensed,
dispensary
or
licensed
retailer
cannot
be
within
a
thousand
feet
of
another
licensed
one,
but
that
doesn't
consider
the
the
number
of
unlicensed
ones.
B
So
so
I'd
like
that
to
be
considered
too
and
then
adding
to
the
sensitive
location
is
a
concern
that
there
be
some
distance
between
Supportive
Housing
facilities
and
treatment
centers,
because
there
are
people
in
these
types
of
congregant
housing
Who
as
a
matter
sometimes
of
their
parole,
cannot
be
using
cannabis,
even
even
under
the
the
updated
rules
and
regulations.
So
some
sensitivity
to
people
for
whom
proximity
could
be
problematic,
I
think
should
be
considered
a
little
bit
further
and
then
quickly
and
finally,
whether
it's
a
30-day
notice
or
hopefully
someday
a
60-day
notice.
B
What
does
that
look
like?
Because
I
have
heard
from
people
who
claim
that
they
will
be
opening
or
planned
to
open
or
have
a
license
to
open
or
and
I've
never
seen
a
30-day
notification
and
I
feel
like
I,
can't
ask
my
board
to
sit
down
and
hear
something
that
I
haven't
received.
Official
notification
for
so
I
see
that
they
have
to
certify
mail
or
hand
deliver
and
all
of
that,
but
is
it
a
standardized
form
form
the
way?
Sorry,
but
it's
a
good
reference.
The
way
SLA
30
day
notices,
look.
D
The
proposed
regulations
and
the
comment
period
right
so
the
public
comment
period
is
a
conversation
between
government
and
constituent,
and
so
the
proposed
regulations
are
are
part
of
the
conversation.
The
public
comment
period
and
everything
that
you
just
you
know
you
just
kind
of
talked
about
all
those
points
you
guys
as
a
community
board
or
individuals
can
send
those
public
comments
to
us,
and
then
it
will
be
considered.
So
if
it's
not,
if
you
don't
send
it
during
the
public
comment
period,
it's
hard
to
consider,
we
can
certainly
say
hey.
D
This
is
what
we've
heard
from
this
community,
but
it
needs
to
be
part
of
the
record
and
so
I
encourage
you
all
to
please
either
again
as
a
collective
or
as
individuals
or
both
to
send
comments
during
the
public
comment
period,
because
that
is
when
we
have
to
hear
your
side
of
the
conversation
and.
B
B
And
I
think
you
might
hear
it
a
few
from
a
few
different
entities,
this
border
and
or
and
I
know
you
have
it
in
writing
from
other
boards
and
from
the
future
of
community
board
group,
but
but
we'll,
but.
D
You
know
we
are
a
state
agency,
and
so
we
we
we
deal
with
municipalities
across
the
state
and
we've
heard
this
as
well,
and
so
we
always
encourage
people
to
please
do
that
and
Phil
just
put
in
the
chat
what
the
notification
to
municipality
should
look
like,
and
so,
if
you
just
click
on
that
link,
you'll
be
able
to
see
what
the
form
looks
like
and
we
do
meet.
You
know
there.
There
is
a
time
where
ocm
and
Daphne
meets
with.
D
We
have
a
webinar
for
licensees,
and
we
do
talk
about
the
notification
to
municipalities
and
we
stress
very
strongly
that
they
need
to
fill
it
out
completely,
because
what
we're
seeing
is
sometimes
people
just
I,
think
so
rushed
to
get
it
out
that
they're
not
completely
filling
it
out
and
so
the
community,
then
the
municipality
or
the
community
board
is
like
well
I,
don't
have
all
the
information,
so
we
are
definitely
stressing
to
people
that
they
please
complete.
The
entire
form.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Johnny
roll
you're
good,
because
I'm
gonna
move
on
to
the
land,
okay,
Ornella
Parker,
so
your
hand
was
up
for
quite
a
long
time.
I
just
want
to
invite
you
to
ask
your
question.
Otherwise,
I'll
ask
mine
and
we
will
close
this
public
hearing.
I
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
so
my
question
is
a
little
bit
aligned
with
our
district
manager
I'm
just
wondering
we
spoke
a
lot
about
like
regulation
and
around
the
illicit
ones
that
are
not
licensed,
but
I'm
wondering
how
can
Community
boards
are
like
what
is
the
thought
process
and
plan
around
getting
more
licensed
stores
out,
and
how
do
we
make
that
process
streamline
so
that
it
is
actually
accessible
to
these
areas,
because
I
feel
like
the
more
licensed
stores
we
have
the
more
we're
able
to
regulate
more
efficiently
opposed
to
what's
happening
now,
where
we
have
all
these
illegally
run
shops,
and
how
does
the
community
board
play
in
that
I
know
we're
an
advisory
to
it,
but
things
like
so
now.
I
The
application
you
just
name
right
like
how
to
ensure
that
they
know
what
that
needs
to
look
like.
So
when
they
do
come
in
front
of
the
community
board,
there
are
it's
Equitable
in
there.
They
have
a
fair
shot
at
like
obtaining
a
license
as
long
as
they
as
long
as
they're
within
the
guidelines.
D
D
D
Brooklyn
was
the
last
Borough
to
get
licensees,
and
that
was
because
of
the
court
injunction,
but
as
soon
as
it
was
lifted,
we
you
know
licensees
from
Brooklyn
people,
applicants
from
Brooklyn
got
licenses
and
there
are
now
licensees
and
so
they're
looking
for
their
their
their
retail
locations
and
so
I
think
that's
some
of
the
hold
up
as
it
relates
to.
Why
aren't
there
more
stores
in
your
Borough?
It's
because
for
for
quite
a
while,
now
we
weren't
able
to
do
anything.
D
But
again
the
injection
was
lifted,
people
were
licensed,
they
were
looking
for
locations,
and
so
that
will
also
help
with
with
the
number
of
licensed
shops.
In
your
borrow
and
in
your
area.
C
I
would
just
add
it
does
take
a
while
to
get
dispensaries
up
and
running.
Unfortunately,
you
know
they
are
it's
a
build
out
process.
It's
one
reason:
we
partnered
with
the
dormitory
authority
of
of
New
York
State
dasny
to
assist
in
grabbing
some
locations,
and
they
are
running
the
fund
to
help
fund
these,
as
well,
specifically
just
for
card
the
conditional
dispensaries
yeah.
Unfortunately,
you
know
we
are
trying
to
move
forward
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
I
can
assure
you
everyone
agrees
with
that
statement.
C
You
made
about
more
licensed
stores
will
help
push
back
on
the
illicit
sites.
Very
true,
in
my
opinion
as
well,
and
so
we
are
trying
to
move
forward
as
efficiently
as
possible.
Right
now
and
unfortunately
it
just
it
can
take
a
bit
to
get
the
leases
signed
to
get
the
stores
built
out,
connect,
consumer
and
the
product,
but
we
are
moving
as
efficiently
as
as
we
can
at
the
moment,.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
I'll
ask
just
one
question
and
then
we'll
close
out
this
public
hearing
and
I'll
just
also
State
for
the
record
that
without
a
doubt,
30-day
notification
is
not
enough
for
at
least
the
community
board
entity
and
we
will
respond
to
the
public
comment
period
as
such.
Thank
you,
so
I'm
thinking
about
the
difficulties
that
the
New
York
City
sheriff
has
had
in
enforcement
and
I
know
the
size
of
their
their
department
and
I'm
curious
as
to
the
size
of
your
enforcement
unit.
A
I
know
that
it's
new
it
was
just
sort
of
approved
through
the
last
budget
process.
A
So
what
I'm
just
looking
for
is
sort
of
an
answer
to
capacity
if
the
sheriff
has
had
a
difficult
time
dealing
at
their
at
their
capacity,
difficult
time
dealing
with
illicit
stores.
How
do
you
see
yourself
situated
there?
Thank
you.
D
So,
actually,
our
enforcement
division,
our
enforcement
department
is
the
fastest
growing
in
our
agency
and
they
are
they're
the
largest
as
well.
So
we
continue
to
bring
staff
on
and
we've
had
an
enforcement
department.
Since
you
know
we,
the
the
agency
opened
up
and
it
just
has
grown,
and
in
this
last
budget
there
there
were
more
money.
There
was
more
funding
for
us
to
bring
on
even
more
enforcement
agents.
D
So
I
don't
have
a
full
number
right
now,
just
because
that
number
is
very
fluid
every
two
weeks,
they're
bringing
in
new
people
because
that's
when
they
kind
of
cycle
a
new
new
staff
and
we,
but
we
do
have
enforcement
agents
across
the
state
and
that's
why
we
work
in
a
interagency
task
force,
because
you
know
we're
able
to
pull
resources
from
several
agencies
and
and
deal
with
the
issue
that
way,
and
so
as
you
having.
D
We
continue
to
grow,
we're
partnering
with
agencies
in
law
enforcement
entities
and
we
have
the
new
enforcement
Powers.
We
will
be
attacking
this
with
just
greater
speed
and,
and
there
will
people
will
start
to
see
the
difference
with
these
enforcement
powers
and
the
new
staff
we
have
coming
on.
C
Yeah-
and
my
only
comment
real
quick
here
is
that
when
you
were
making
the
comparison
with
the
Sheriff's
Office
I
don't
have
the
the
exact
number
either
I
I
believe
there
are
73
lines
for
additional
people
in
the
budget.
As
you
said,
it
was
specifically
for
ocm
enforcement,
though
that
was
the
only
division
that
had
lines
for
additional
jobs
in
the
budget.
So
Not
only
was
the
enhanced
Power
in
the
budget.
C
It
was
also
73
additional
lines
to
help
beef
that
up
my
only
caveat
here
with
the
sheriff's
department.
It's
not
so
much
a
capacity
issue
as
it
is
a
law
issue
and
the
law
just
changed
a
few
weeks
ago.
So,
even
though
the
sheriff's
office,
you
know,
has
much
substantial
more
resources.
C
You're
charging
someone
one
penny
for
driving
80
miles
an
hour
and
a
65.
you're,
probably
gonna,
have
a
lot
more
people.
Speeding.
If
you
charge
them
hundreds
of
dollars
and
make
them
appear
in
in
front
of
Court
you'll,
probably
have
less
people
speeding.
We
were
implementing
that
one
any
fee
for
speeding
the
equivalent
of
that
in
the
Cannabis
industry.
Our
fines
were
too
low.
We
didn't
have
the
Empower
to
even
walk
into
the
store
without
pre-existing
conditions,
and
now
that's
opened
up.
C
So
it's
not
so
much
a
capacity
as
it
was
restrictive
laws.
You
know
the
MRT
was
trying
to
pull
back
the
Rockefeller
laws
and
in
doing
so,
I
think
it.
You
know
they
may
have
overlooked
some
of
the
more
kind
of
human
elements
here
of
people
are
going
to
open
up
stores
and
they
can
make
money
they're
going
to
do
it
really
quick
and
we
only
have.
J
C
Fines
to
push
back
on
all
that's
changed,
so
we're
increasing
capacity
which
will
help
and
we
actually
have
laws
that
we
can
push
off
of
as
opposed
to
trying
to
jump
off
of
jelly
or
something
like
that,
and
we
will
have
enforcement
people
in
New
York
City.
We
already
do.
We
have
new
enforcement
people
in
Albany
and
we
will
have
enforcement
people
in
our
buffalo
office
as
well.
D
And
I'll
also
add
you
know.
Sla
is
like
the
big
brother,
and
so
a
lot
of
things
were.
You
know
we
kind
of
modeled
and-
and
you
know,
took
from
them.
They
only
have
jurisdiction
over
licensed
liquor,
sellers
right.
They
didn't
have
jurisdiction
over
unlicensed
and
so
I.
Think
in
you
know
that
that's
also
part
of
it
like
in
addition
to
the
Rockefeller.
We
were
also
looking
at
SLA
and
was
like
oh
well.
D
This
is
how
they
do
it,
and
so
I
I
think
that
that's
that's
a
part
of
how
we,
you
know
why
we're
so
happy
to
have
these
new
enforcement
Powers.
You
know
we're
able
to
attack
the
problem
in
a
way
that
will
make
a
real
dent
and
again
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time,
but
it
will
happen.
We
will
have
the
emergency
Rags
as
soon
as
we
have
them.
D
J
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
clarification
it's.
It
sounds
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you
know
your
expanded
power
and
the
expansion
of
penalties
and
and
regulations
is
really
going
to
help
across
the
state.
So
with
that,
I
want
to
thank
you
both
for
being
here
and
joining
us
in
this
conversation
for
this
in
this
public
hearing.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
the
expansion
of
what
just
came
about.
A
A
And
with
that,
I
will
close
this
public
hearing
at
7
31
p.m,
and
we
will
immediately
move
into
our
executive
board
meeting
executive
committee
meeting
not
seeing
very
many
members
of
the
executive
committee.
A
One
two
three
four
is
there
I'm
sorry
remind
me:
Sean
is
there's
no
limit
right.
There's
no
Quorum
limit
we're
not
really
making
any
decisions,
we're
just
having
a
discussion.
A
All
right
well
welcome
everyone.
This
executive
committee
meeting
is
beginning
at
7,
31
pm
on
May
18th
2023.,
our
only
agenda
item
as
supposed
to
new
business.
If
anyone
should
bring
any
up,
is
a
report
on
district
manager
time
and
leave
policy
at
separation
or
termination.
So
the
reason
why
I'm
bringing
this
to
your
attention
is
because
well
first,
let
me
open
that
there
are
no
immediate
plans
for
the
district
manager,
Sean
Campbell
to
separate
from
cb14
or
city
service,
or
be
terminated
or
be
terminated.
Absolutely
not.
Thank
you.
A
I'm
I
only
said
termination,
because
that's
how
it
is
written
in
the
law
I
would
just
get.
Discussion
is
based
on
an
event
that
occurred
in
another
Community
District,
where
the
longtime
district
manager
of
30
years
retired
and
the
leave
time
accrued
at
payout
was
exorbitant
and
it
caused
a
major
disruption
to
funds
available
in
the
community
board's
personal
service
lines
of
their
budget.
A
Okay
during
a
meet
and
greet
with
the
Borough
president
and
community
board
chairs
in
March,
it
was
emphasized
that
chairs
should
understand
the
policy
for
leave
payout
at
separation
and
commence
due
diligence
to
determine
their
financial
liability.
A
So
the
law
defining
the
benefits
of
payout
is
Personnel
order.
885
dated
April
28
1988
entitled
lead
regulations
for
management
employees
and
was
thus
amended
by
mayor
Giuliani
on
January
1st
2000..
A
When
a
management
employees
such
as
a
district
manager
separates
from
employment,
annual
leave
and
sick
leave
are
payable
to
the
employee,
based
on
the
final
separation
date
notice
to
the
board.
The
human
resources
department
of
Borough
Hall
will
inform
the
Office
of
Management
and
budget
with
the
available
accrued
meet
time.
A
A
As
for
sick
leave,
she
has
reached
beyond
the
maximum
amount
of
accrual
of
such
leave.
That
can
be
paid
out
at
separation,
which
is
based
on
a
lake
which,
based
on
her
length
of
service,
is
420
hours
or
60
days
at
separation,
because
of
her
length
of
service
is
greater
than
10
years.
She
will
be
entitled
to
one
third
sick
leave
payment
at
maximum
accrual,
an
annual
at
maximum,
which
is
318
hours
unless
the
chair
has
approved
carryover
beyond
that
maximum.
A
So
let
me
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
so
the
maximum
that
can
be
paid
out
is
318
hours.
Unless,
let's
say
she
has
superseded
that,
you
know
in
at
the
end
of
2023,
and
the
chair
authorizes
the
carryover
of
of
those
additional
hours,
if
the
chair
does
not
authorize
that,
then
those
hours
over
the
maximum
of
318
would
be
paid
out
as
if
they
were
six
sick
leave.
So
that
would
be
at
a
rate
of
one-third.
A
So
the
reason
why
we're
talking
about
this
tonight
we're
still
calculating
the
figures,
there's
nothing
alarming.
If,
if
district
manager,
Sean
Campbell
should
decide
that
she
is
going
to
separate
from
service
at
the
end
of
2023,
our
budget
would
be
fine,
and
the
reason
why
we're
talking
about
this
is
because
I
just
also
want
to
install
some
institutional
knowledge
here
that
these
are.
A
These
are
items
that
were
never
discussed
with
me
when
I
became
chair
and
I
just
want
the
the
board
to
also
understand
the
procedures
at
which,
when
district
manager
separates
from
service
that
we
will
be
paying
out
of
our
budget.
The
accrued
annual
leave,
which
is
basically
vacation
and
and
paid
time
off,
personal
and
then
sick,
leave
so
I'll.
Leave
it
there
for
questions.
I
sort
of
I
hope
that
I
was
clear
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
of
your
questions.
I'll
start
with
Dwayne
and.
B
Before
they
ask
questions
can
I
just
clarify
something
else:
I
think
it
also
sort
of
came
up
as
because
I
did
become
eligible
for
retirement
in
in
January.
So
so
that
does
raise
the
question.
It's
not
it's
not
a
plan
that
I
have,
but
I
also
recognize
that
I
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
board.
But
I
did
want
to
add
that
there's
an
you
know,
I'm
eligible
to
retire,
and
so
that
does
make
the
the
discussion
that
much
more
relevant.
A
Thank
you
for
that.
Go
ahead,
Dwayne.
F
This
is
just
for
the
math
at
what
rate,
as
far
as
hours
per
day,
do
we
calculated?
Is
it
seven
or
eight
like,
for
instance,
do
we
have
a
35?
Is
the
city
working
yeah.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
it's
seven
a
day
and
the
the
rate
at
which
it's
calculated
is
based
on
what
they
do
for
annual
leave.
It's
it's
what's
called
First
in
first
out,
so
let's
say
they
work
their
way
backwards,
so
the
rate
at
which
the
employee
is
being
paid
now
during
that
time,
they'll
take
those
hours
away
that
were
accrued
and
then
they
work
backwards
when
they
get
to
the
the
six
year
mark,
it's
a
weighted
average
of
the
salaries
passed
there.
A
I
will
take
a
question
from
JoJo.
Go
ahead.
G
Oh,
thank
you
chairman
aye,
chair,
Woodman
Brown.
My
question
is
that
we
have
been
extremely
short
staffed
over
the
past
year
or
more
than
that
and
and
Sean
has
been
working
like
crazy
in
order
to
try
to
ameliorate
those
conditions.
G
I,
don't
think
it's
at
all
fair
for
someone
to
work
so
hard
and
not
read
the
and
reap
what
she's,
due
in
any
way,
shape
or
form,
especially
that
if
there's
a
budget
hold
did,
did
the
money
that
we
did
not
pay
out
for
for
help
that
we
were
trying
to
so
desperately
get.
Did
that
get
banked
so
to
speak?
Well,
we
can
call
on
that
to
be
to
try
to
use
that,
but
it's
I
don't
think
it's
fair
am
I
wrong.
What
do
you
feel
well.
A
I
am
not
at
all
saying
that
we
are
taking
anything
away
from
her.
Everything
that
I
am
describing
to
you
is:
is
law
88-5?
Okay,
so
we
are
not
doing
anything
to
erode
what
she
is
owed.
A
All
I'm
doing
here
is
informing
you
because
I'm
not
sure
that
if
the
executive
committee
and
other
board
members
know
that
there
is
a
payout
and
that
will
come
out
of
our
budget,
so
I
hope
you
understand
that
we're
not
taking
anything
away,
we're
just
analyzing
the
situation
to
make
sure
that
we
have
no
surprises.
Does
that
make
sense,
I'm.
B
Answer
is
no.
There
is
no
carrying
over
from
one
fiscal
year
to
another
fiscal
year.
Any
monies
there's
been
talk
in
the
future
of
community
boards
groups
of
like
of
like
banking
money
that
wasn't
spent
by
Community
boards
into
a
staff
payment
payout
fund,
or
something
like
that.
But
the
city,
you
know,
isn't
listening
very
closely
to
community
boards
on
on
many
things
and
that-
and
that
goes
into
that
bucket.
B
You
know
and
as
Joanne
said,
there's
no
there's
no
real
at
this
point
and
and-
and
you
know
for
the
foreseeable
amount
of
time
that
I
would
likely
continue
service
at
the
community
board.
You
know
like
up
to
age
62
or
you
know
more
standard
retirement
ages.
There.
There
isn't
a
calculation
by
which
this
board
gets
into
trouble,
I
mean
their
their
OMB
holds.
B
So
there
is
some
money
that
OMB
makes
this
hold,
for
you
know
for
severance,
which
isn't
the
right
word,
but
for
a
separation
payment,
and
then
you
know
we
always
we
have
a
little
bit
of
money
in
the
budget.
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
year,
usually
that
that
we
end
up
spending
on
something
that
could
go
toward
the
Personnel
needs.
B
Should
there
be
a
separation
or
termination,
and
then
two
there's
always
the
possibility
that
you
wouldn't
pay
an
incoming
district
manager,
the
same
salary
you're
paying
somebody
who's
worked
now,
12
years,
you
know
and
then
13
14
15
years.
So
there
could
just
be
some
flexibility
in
the
in
the
salary
of
an
incoming
I.
Think
what
this
board
is
a
not
in
danger
of
is
not
being
able
to
hire
an
income.
I
mean
district
manager.
B
You
know
right
at
the
tail
end
dovetailing
with
with
the
exit
of
the
current
one,
so
that
I
I
feel
like
unless
Joanne
feels
a
little
more
risk-averse
than
I
than
I.
Do
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
there
isn't
really
a
scenario
by
which
that
happens.
A
Right
so,
based
on
the
current
behavior
of
of
use
of
hours,
that
district
manager,
Sean
Campbell
part,
does
from
year
to
year,
I
do
not
foresee
us
being
in
danger
and
not
being
able
to
fully
transition
with.
You
know,
day
ends
with
district
manager,
Campbell
and
then
Day
begin
with
the
new
district
manager,
and
you
know
again,
there
are.
There
are
mechanisms
in
which
we
can
make
this
work.
A
What
all
started
this
again
was
a
was
a
situation
where
there
was
so
much
that
had
to
be
paid
out,
because
that
person
probably
had
a
position.
A
You
know
before
that,
where
they
actually
had
vested
time
and
banked
time
right
now,
we're
just
talking
about
a
crude
time
right
so
vested
banked
in
accrued
time,
and
it
was
a
substantial
amount
of
money
so
much
that
they
were
not
able
to
hire
a
district
manager
for
quite
a
long
time
until
they
could
recoup
their
budget,
but
again,
I'm
standing
here
before
you
to
say
this.
That
I
want
everybody
to
have
this
institutional
knowledge
that
we're
not
working
in
a
vacuum
and
that
we
all
have
expectations
of.
A
G
Didn't
mean
to
say
that
there
was
a
personal
thing
that
you
were
doing:
Joanne,
obviously,
but
obviously
the
fact
that
the
budgetary
constraints
of
the
city
year
to
year
that
does
not
get
banked
is
is
hurting
us
might
hurt
us
in
the
future
and
by
the
way,
the
new
person
we
might
have.
We
have
to
get
a
great
person,
we've
always
had
great
people
and
we
might
have
to
pay
top
dollar
for
a
person
in
the
future.
Sorry,
thanks.
A
Yes,
of
course,
that
would
be
commensurate
with
experience
and
and
so
forth.
So
I
see
Hindi,
you
have
your
hand
up,
go
ahead.
J
J
F
Yeah
I
mean
just
I
I
wanted
to
just
comment
more
comments,
just
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
discussion,
being
this
discussion
being
had,
because
you
know
it's
something
that
needs
to
happen
obviously,
and
also
just
for
the
sake
of
Legacy
information.
F
I
mean
previous
board
members
and
previous
chairs
may
have
been
aware
of
it,
but
you
know
as
board
as
a
board
member
now
I'd
like
to
know
what
we're,
especially
as
now
being
part
of
the
executive
board,
what
responsibilities
we
have
to
the
staff
is
there
to
Sean
to
the
other,
Patricia
and
Sarah
that
are
there.
F
A
Thank
you,
yeah
Again,
full
transparency.
You
know
just
more
important
to
me
that
everyone
on
this
board
has
a
clear
idea
of
what
the
duties
are
of
the
chair.
The
chair
is
the
head
of
the
agency.
The
the
community
board
is
an
agency
and
there's
a
lot
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that.
So
I,
just
you
know,
wanted
to
make
sure
that
full
responsibility
is
conveyed
across
to
all
board
members.
A
B
No,
no
thanks
everybody
for
listening
and
yeah.
If
there
are
any.
If
there
are
any
follow-up
questions,
though
you
know,
you
know
where
to
find
us.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you,
I
think
this
is
the
shortest
executive
committee
meeting
ever
and
we'll
reconvene
at
the
beginning
of
next
cycle
there
or
there
thereabouts
to
continue
this,
the
discussion
so
on
and
so
forth.
A
A
J
F
B
B
It's
not
on
it's
not
on
the
site.
We
can
try
to
put
it
up
tomorrow.
It's
the
same
as
it's
always
been.
It's
done.
It's
the
ocean.
It's
the
ocean,
Avenue
I
mean
sorry
yeah,
Ocean,
Parkway
closure.
You.
F
E
B
Okay,
thank
you
or
leave
your
car
on.
You
know.
The
other
thing
is
just
to
leave
your
car
on
the
side
on
the
other
side
of
Ocean
Parkway,
but
I'll
get
them
I'll
get
the
maps
to
you
all
right
now.
Thank.