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From YouTube: CB14 Housing and Land Use Committee Meeting (05/10/2023)
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A
B
C
B
It's
all
good
I
I
still
want
to
write
to
a
little
report
from
the
meeting
that
I
went
to
with
attack
me
yeah.
B
On
Monday
I
forgot
the
acronym
how
they
pronounce
it
but
I
think
they
pronounce
it
something
like
pygmy
or
pacne,
or
something
like
that.
But
I
still
I
owe
you
an
email.
Don't
worry
about.
It
am
I
echoing.
It
might
be
my
connection.
Okay,.
E
I
mean
I'm
gonna,
try
not
to
talk
much.
This
meeting
I
know
that
might.
F
E
Yeah
I
think
Talisha
took
care
of
it,
yeah
I'm
eager
to
hear
about
how
it
went
Monday.
If
you
want
to
send
if
yeah,
if
you,
if
you
have
time
to
send
an
email
or
if
you
just
want
to
give
a
call,
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
During
the
week
you
have
my
cell
phone
number
right
yeah.
So
whenever.
B
It
could
be,
it
can
be
sort
of
taken
care
of
with
like
an
email,
because
generally,
what
happened
is
that
the
outcome
was
that
they
suggested
that
this
task
force
have
maybe
a
couple
of
meetings
so
that
people
can
join
and
talk
about
the
burial
ground
because
it
seems,
like
you
know,
parks,
department,
Community
engagement
is
just
not
going
to
move
forward
in
a
very
good
way.
So
you
know
I
asked
them
well.
What
can
the
community
board
do
in
order
to
help?
You
know
what
would
be
helpful
and
they
said
well.
B
Maybe
if
we
have
like
you
know
a
little,
maybe
a
couple
of
task
force
meetings
so
that
people
can
join
in
and
sort
of,
say
something
and
then
maybe
the
community
board
can
send
in
a
letter
based
on
those
task
force
meetings
to
suggest
things.
You
know
to
the
parts
store
process.
A
A
E
D
H
I
figure
I'd
do
something
inside.
E
G
For
the
presenters
at
this.
D
E
E
I
think
it's
great,
you
can
there's
a
search
function
or
or
if
I
can
multitask
at
some
point.
I
can
look
it
up,
but
hang
on.
Let
me
try
to
get
a
hold
of
them.
I'm
gonna
mute
for
a
second.
G
G
Three
and
we
have
two
presentations
this
evening-
hello,
everybody
I'm,
an
Alvarez
co-chair
along
with
Talisha
St
Bill,
and
we
have
again
the
embarrassment
of
riches
of
three
fellows
for
us
this
year
to
study
various
aspects
of
cb14
and
housing
and
land
use,
and
so
tonight
I'm
going
to
be
introducing
our
first
fellow
who
was
Morgan
Ruther,
who
is
going
to
be
presenting
in
connection
with
our
continuing
discussion
of
the
city
of
yes
text
amendments
and
her
focus
in
her
studies
has
been
the
zoning
Amendment
related
to
carbon
neutrality.
G
But
tonight
we
have
Morgan
study
and
she's
going
to
walk
us
through
and
take
us
through
all
of
the
aspects
of
what
we
should
be
paying
attention
to
when
we,
when
we
could
dig
into
these
New
Testaments
so
without
further
Ado
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Morgan.
Please
reintroduce
yourself
to
all
of
us
and
we
look
forward
to
hear
your
presentation
this
evening.
So
thank
you.
I
Hi
everyone
thanks
Greg
for
the
intro,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
a
little
more
about
myself.
My
name
is
Morgan
Ruther
I'm,
currently,
a
graduate
student
at
Columbia
University,
studying
urban
planning
and
real
estate
development
and
yeah
I'm
really
excited
to
get
started
on
my
presentation,
I'm
having
a
minor
technical
difficulty
opening
the
file.
But
if
you
bear
with
me
for
just
one
moment,
I
should
be
able
to
start
pretty
shortly.
I
C
I
I
So
it's
clear
that
there's
a
ton
of
political
momentum
to
move
these
climate-forward
policies
forward
and
ensuring
that
these
policies
are
enacted
in
ways
that
are
considerate
of
local
impacts
and
that
are
implemented
in
a
way
that
can
be
effective
at
the
local
level
is
really
the
folk.
What
the
focus
of
my
study
has
been
over
the
past
few
months,
let's
see
if
I
can
change
my
next
slide.
B
I
I
In
case
there's,
anyone
on
the
call
that
wasn't
able
to
attend
I'm
going
to
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
work
plan
for
my
project
and
my
the
methodology
that
you
know
led
me
to
the
specific
initiatives
that
I
focused
on
and
then
I'm
going
to
give
an
overview
of
some
of
the
zoning
reform
proposals
under
Zoning
for
carbon
neutrality
that
are
most
relevant
for
community
board.
14.
I
So
in
June
2022
mayor
Eric
Adams
announced
his
administration's
plan
to
implement
new
zoning
tools
to
support
small
businesses,
create
affordable
housing
and
promote
decarbonization
across
New
York
City.
This
plan,
also
known
as
city
of
yes,
seeks
to
accomplish
these
goals
through
three
zoning
reform
initiatives.
I
Okay,
so,
as
I
mentioned,
the
Zoning
for
carbon
neutrality
proposal,
which
I'm
going
to
refer
to
as
zcn
moving
forward
entered
the
formal
public
review
process
about
two
weeks
ago
on
April
24th.
So
now
there's
a
60-day
review
period
that
will
run
through
July,
where
the
proposal
will
be
shared
with
all
59
New
York,
City
Community
boards
and
the
ultimate
City
Council
vote
will
occur
in
October
of
this
year.
I
The
broader
context
of
zcn,
outside
of
its
association
with
the
city
of
yes,
is
a
broader
need
to
update
New,
York
City
Zoning
code
to
account
for
advances
in
sustainable
Technologies
and
building
science
that
are
needed
to
accomplish
our
carbon
neutrality
goals.
So
the
zone
Green
upgrade
in
2012
was
the
last
significant
sustainability
driven
reform
to
the
zoning
resolution,
and
a
lot
has
changed
since
then,
and
as
I
mentioned
previously,
there's
a
lot
of
legislative.
I
I
And
in
total
there
are
17
text,
Amendment
proposals
that
span
the
Gambit
of
solar
reform,
building
retrofits,
electric
vehicle
regulations
and
waste
and
water,
and
it
was
decided
early
on
that.
The
scope
of
my
project
would
involve
selecting
a
few
of
these
proposals
to
focus
on
that
were
most
relevant
to
cb14.
I
So
super
briefly,
this
is,
you
know
a
lot
of
information,
but
this
is
kind
of
high
level.
The
methodology
that
informed
how
my
project
developed
it's
worth,
noting
that
DCP
has
implemented
a
more
transparent
public
engagement
process
than
previous
zoning
reform
initiatives.
So
there
have
been
a
number
of
public
information
sessions
that
have
been
hosted
over
the
past
few
months
that
have
really
informed
the
way
that
my
project
developed,
but
the
three
main
buckets
involved.
I
An
initial
scoping
phase,
where
I
collected
some
background
information
on
the
context
of
the
initiative
and
all
of
the
Amendments
under
the
proposal
and
workshops
with
the
cb14
land
use
committee,
then
I
went
into
the
research
and
mapping
phase
where
I
liaisoned
with
TCP
and
interviewed
a
number
of
zoning
experts
and
conducted
Geographic
analyzes
that
ultimately
led
to
my
findings
and
recommendations.
I
And
again
this
is
just
a
quick
timeline
of
some
of
the
major
Milestones
along
that
occurred
throughout
my
project
and
it's
worth
noting
that
I
worked
pretty
closely
with
beta
NYC
to
come
up
with
a
few
methodologies
within
methodologies
to
spatially
show
how
some
of
these
proposals
might
play
out
in
the
district.
I
And
in
particular,
the
issue
of
infrastructure
resiliency
seemed
to
have
a
lot
of
overlap
with
some
of
the
topics
covered
in
Zoning
for
carbon
neutrality.
This
included
issues
with
flooding,
implementing
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
and
other
infrastructure,
Improvement
and
coordination
concerns.
I
Which
is
loading
so
this
map
shows
this
map
uses
data
from
dep's,
New
York
City
stormwater
map
showing
extreme
flood
within
2080
sea
level
rise
and
then
in
2019
cb14
identified
the
following
areas
as
vulnerable
to
flooding
within
the
district,
which
were
submitted
to
dep.
I
I
A
I
So
yeah
I
guess,
while
we're
sitting
on
this,
you
can
oh
okay.
Now
it's
gone
okay!
So
then,
in
looking
again
at
the
17
proposals,
the
first
that
I
chose
to
focus
on
or
that
I
thought
was
most
relevant
to
some
of
the
issues
covered
was
I.
Think
it's
loading.
I
Okay,
Street
trees,
so
next
slide,
so
current
zoning
requires
Street
trees
to
be
installed
along
new
development
and
new
developments
and
enlargements.
However,
as
drafted,
this
language
does
not
allow
for
the
implementation
of
new,
more
Innovative
prototypes
that
dot
and
DEP
have
been
developing,
such
as
connected
tree
beds
and
Rain
Gardens.
I
Dcp
has
stated
that
the
design
requirements
for
high
performance
tree
pits
and
Rain
Gardens
will
adhere
to
the
existing
standards
established
by
dep,
which
was
one
of
the
you
know.
Con
initial
concerns
when
we
met
back
in
December
was
just
that
dep
would
be.
I
You
know,
involved
in
coordinating
these
initial
in
you
know
in
the
implementation
of
the
screen
infrastructure
and
then
in
terms
of
impact,
it
is
estimated
that
during
a
rainstorm,
each
rain
Garden
would
be
able
to
collect
up
to
2
500
gallons
of
water,
which
is
a
significant
amount
of
storm
water.
I
I
I
You
know,
under
the
with
the
assumption
that
some
of
these
projects
could
have
been
delayed
during
covid
could
still
be
in
pre-development
and
could
potentially
present
an
opportunity
to
incorporate
some
of
this
new
green
infrastructure
when,
if
this
initiative
is
passed,
as
is
in
September,
so
here
you
can
see
in
black.
These
are
the
property
Lots,
with
dob
permits
issued
after
2019.
That
could
represent
these
opportunities
for
immediate
green
infrastructure
implementation.
G
A
Bobby
so
thank
you
for
being
here
Ken
and
we
also
have
Hannah
yazdi
from
Department
of
City
Planning
as
well
as
Borough
planner.
So.
G
For
listening
in
and
joining
us
this
evening,.
D
H
I'll,
throw
out
a
quick
question.
Can
you
hear
me.
A
H
E
E
It's
okay
I
mean,
but
but
you
know
practically
speaking,
DCP
is
actually
going
to
come
back
to
us
with
the
broader
a
text.
Amendment
proposal
on
on
June,
8th
I
believe
we've
settled
on,
and
then
it
will
be
heard.
So
it
will
be
heard
on
June,
8th
and
presented
to
the
full
board
at
our
at
our
June
12th
meeting.
E
No,
according
to
the
no
we
break
for
July
and
August,
it's
Charter,
the
charter
breaks.
E
K
Sorry
I
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
add
that
to
my
name,
the
the
text
amendment
was
officially
referred
out
to
community
boards
last
week
on
Tuesday
May,
2nd
it's
a
60-day
review,
so
the
community
board
clock
officially
ends
on
July
3rd,
but
the
CBC
here
the
CPC
vote
is
tentatively
scheduled
for
August,
so
Community
boards
could
weigh
in
up
until
that
date,
early
August.
E
E
G
We
have
one
more
question:
Morgan's
working,
it's
a
question
from
Elizabeth,
so
please
by
all
means.
D
Hey
yeah
so
as
I
understand
it,
this,
the
the
rain
Garden
option
here
is
like
a
more
flexible
way
for
new
development
and
new
permits,
potentially
to
to
change
from
doing
the
traditional
Street
tree
to
this.
D
But
I
also
know
that,
like
a
lot
of
our
district
already
has
a
lot
of
Street
trees
and
I
was
just
wondering
if
there's
any
information
on
how
to
potentially
change
those
into
rain,
Gardens
or
also,
you
know
if
there
are
stretches
that
don't
have
street
trees
but
aren't
getting
otherwise
redeveloped.
How
they're
you
know
how
one
could
get
a
street
tree,
or
you
know,
put
in
a
rain
Garden
adjacent
to
a
property
that
they
owned.
If
there's
any
information
on
that.
E
It's
actually
a
dep
question
they're
not
attending
tonight,
but
I
can
try
to
get
an
update
from
dep
on
when
cb14
is
supposed
to
be
phased
into
their
ring,
Garden
expansion.
G
All
right,
thank
you
just
like
to
acknowledge
another
attendee.
This
evening
we
have
a
sheriff
groups
from
the
state
senator
felder's
office.
So
thank
you
as
well
for
joining
us.
G
C
Thank
you
less
a
question
and
more
of
just
comment
on
how
developers
are
compliant
with
actually
planting
Street
trees
when
they
are
mandated
to
do
so
in
front
of
their
new
properties.
There
is
very
low
compliance
on
in
the
north
of
the
district.
In
just
a
one
block
area.
C
We
have
at
least
eight
Street
trees
that
were
not
planted
by
two
developments
and
then,
when
I
brought
that
to
the
attention
of
parks
via
3-1-1,
the
response
was
that
parks
would
assess
the
site
and
we
can
expect
a
tree
in
two
years,
so
it
it
is
seems
to
be
that
when
the
developer
doesn't
do
their
part
in
this
process,
that
Parks
is
taking
it
over
and
a
council
member
Rita
Joseph
has
made
a
commitment
to
plant
trees
throughout
the
district,
and
so
in
this
area
those
tree
pits
have
been
filled
by
trees,
presumably
by
by
her
capital
budget
to
plant
them.
C
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
that
compliance
is
very
low
and
enforcement
is
non-existent
when
it
comes
to
new
development
and
tree
planting.
So
I
can't
see
it
changing
with
this
zoning
text.
Amendment
thanks.
G
Thank
you
for
that
yeah
I.
In
my
experience
too
I've
seen
that
where
it
because
the
enforcement
mechanism
seems
to
fall
on
Parks,
sometimes
it
does
fall
through
the
cracks
for
sure.
That's
definite.
Okay,
so
yeah.
I
G
I
Ahead,
yeah
I
think
I'm
back
up
I'm,
not
gonna
full
screen,
it
I'm
sorry,
every
time
I
do
it
it
shuts
down,
but
just
on
that
last
question,
I
I
think
that
that
was
you
know,
super
relevant
and
definitely
kind
of
came
up
when
I
was
digging
into
the
details
of
the
existing
requirements
and
yeah
I
mean
one
like
you
know.
I
I
So,
in
the
same
vein
as
rain
Gardens,
the
next
initiative
that
I
looked
at
was
the
zoning
text
Amendment
proposal
in
regard
to
porous
Paving
and
for
anyone
who
might
on
the
call
that
might
not
be
familiar.
A
permeable
Paving
is
a
type
of
paving
material
that
allows
storm
water
to
infiltrate
immediately
back
into
the
ground
where
it
falls
and
according
to
the
conservation
Foundation
who
conducted
a
study,
permeable
pavement
that
is
installed
and
maintained
correctly.
I
So
diving
into
the
actual
text,
Amendment
proposal
currently
under
zoning
permeable
Paving,
is
permitted
by
the
city
to
be
used
instead
of
asphalt.
However,
the
current
zoning
text
implies
that
a
deep
that
a
dop
must
review
and
approve
each
proposed
installation
of
permeable
pavement
and
as
a
result
of
this
ambiguity,
the
use
of
it
has
been
dis
incentivized
in
many
developments
in
New,
York
city.
I
So
this
map-
well
okay,
so
since
2007
New,
York
City
Zoning
code
has
required
parking
lots
for
Community
facilities
to
allow
permeable
pavement
where
appropriate-
and
this
applies
to
parking
lots
with
more
than
18
spaces
or
that
are
larger
than
6
000
square
feet.
I
I
Arms,
so
other
impervious
surfaces
in
cb14
can
also
provide
opportunities
to
integrate
green
infrastructure
for
storm
water
management,
and
what
this
map
really
shows
is
meaning
to
show.
Is
you
know
if
we
looked
at
parking
lots
that
are
already
required
to
retain
storm
water?
You
know
perhaps
permute
this
new
permeable
pavement
Clarity
could
be
an
option
for
those
sites,
as
well
as
other
impervious
Services
throughout
the
district
and
then
shifting
gears
a
little
bit.
The
last
designing
text,
Amendment
proposal
that
I
chose
to
focus
on
was
the
rooftop
solar.
I
Currently,
the
zoning
resolution
classifies
non-accessory
solar
generation
as
a
commercial
use,
and
thus
it's
only
permitted
in
commercial
districts.
However,
this
proposal
proposes
to
reclassify
this
use
as
renewable
energy
generation
and
permit
it
as
of
right
in
all
residential
districts.
I
So,
as
you
can
see
here,
non-accessory
solar
is
currently
only
permitted
in
commercial
and
Manufacturing
districts
and
there
are
very
few
of
these
areas
within
cb14.
Under
the
new
zoning
text,
Amendment
proposal
non-accessory
would
be
permitted
in
all
districts,
but
it
is
worth
noting
that
LPC
jurisdiction
still
applies
to
historic
building
or
to
Historic
districts
and
landmark
buildings.
I
And
further,
this
map
shows
that
solar
is
not
necessarily
viable
everywhere.
So,
while
this
could
be
a
potential,
you
know
there
is
potential
for
implementing
this
type
of
solar
throughout
the
district.
It
is
limited
by
the
LPC
process
as
well.
As
you
know,
taking
an
actual
look
at
the
you
know,
the
actual
physical
rooftops
that
are
present
within
the
district,
where
this
type
of
solar
could
be
installed.
I
So
my
ultimate
ultimate
recommendations.
Our
next
step
are
to
just
first
and
foremost,
promote
awareness
of
the
upcoming
zoning
changes
in
cb14
within
the
the
turnaround
timeline
that
we
currently
have.
I
My
study
really
tried
to
frame
looking
at
these
districts
and
how
could
they
be
utilized
to
further
the
district's
existing
sustainability
goals,
especially
as
it
pertains
to
implementing
green
infrastructure,
which
would
benefit
the
whole
district
and
then
my
last
recommendation
was
is
to
use,
develop
a
similar
local
impact
analysis
and
mapping
exercise
for
the
other
upcoming
city
of
yes.
Initiatives
as
it
relates
to
the
economic
development
proposal
and
the
Housing
Opportunity
proposal,
and
that's
the
end
of
my
very
choppy
presentation.
I
I'm,
really
sorry
for
the
technical
difficulties
throughout,
but
very
open
to
questions
discussions
and
any
comments.
G
Thank
you,
Morgan,
no
apologies
necessary
I.
Think
your
points
definitely
got
across
very
clearly.
So
thank
you
for
that
all
right.
So
at
this
time
we'll
we'll
take
questions
of
Morgan
based
on
her
report
and
any
questions
that
you
may
have
this
point.
Regarding
the
the
text
amendments
as
we
mentioned,
the
review
period
will
has
commenced
and
we'll
have
the
opportunity
to
discuss
this
further
next
month,
but
certainly
based
on
Morgan's
research.
G
If
there
are
any
questions
or
comments,
we'll
entertain
them
at
this
time,
I
I
had
one
question
regarding
the
solar
rooftops:
I
I,
it
sort
of
went
back
quick
fast
there,
so
I
wasn't
sure.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
square.
I
G
I
Yeah,
so
if
the
the
installations
would
have
to
be
less
than
ten
thousand
square
feet,
okay
be
as
a
brave
and
then
it's
also
probably
worth
noting
that
there's
a
number
of
other
or
a
number
I
think
there
are
two
other
proposals
or
that
are
kind
of
more
related
to
the
way
that
the
solar
would
actually
be
installed
and
the
height
limitations.
E
Thanks,
first
of
all,
thank
you
Morgan
This
was
this
is
a
really
serious
and
wonkerific
presentation
and
I
appreciate
just
how
much
work
you
put
into
it
and
how
seriously
you
you
took,
took
the
task
on
with
also
you
know.
You
did
a
lot
of
extra
work
too,
and
it
kind
of
leads
to
my
question.
E
I
Yeah
I
I,
don't
have
a
great
answer
for
that
question.
I,
like
you
just
sort
of
mentioned.
My
under
you
know
the
I
don't
have
any
direct
references
to
the
latest
version
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
That's
been
released
other
than
you
know,
I
think
there
is
overlap
in
that
a
lot
of
these
initiatives,
specifically
the
storm
water,
specifically
creating
more
Street
trees.
You
know,
aside
from
the
impact
that
that
has
on
flooding
the
impact
that
it
has
on
mitigating
Urban,
heat
island
effect
and
other
sort
of
compounding
issues
that
come.
I
You
know
from
non.
You
know
sustainable
resilient
Urban
environments,
but
no
kind
of
direct
ties
that
I'm
you
know
I'm
prepared
to
dive
into.
E
Fair
enough,
thanks
for
a
great
report,
thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
I
was
looking
at
the
the
list
of
items
and
number
10
looked
interesting,
but
I
was
having
trouble
deciphering
exactly
what
it
meant.
Could
you
go
back
to
that
and
yeah
the
charge
sharing
one
I
wasn't
really
following
what
that
meant.
I
Yeah
so
I
I,
you
know
I
have
a
very
kind
of
high
level
understanding
of
the
other
ones.
Just
from
listening
to
the
the
information
section,
the
information
sessions
that
DCP
hosted
as
it
relates
to
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
I
believe
this
proposal
is
in
regard
to
allowing
you
know
if
there's
a
residential
charging
station
for
that
you
know
that's
kind
of
zoned
to
be
for
residential
use,
to
allow
for
more
flexibility
for
that
to
be
used
for
car
sharing
or
even
commercial
use.
I
I
know
a
couple
of
DCP
people
are
on
this
call.
So
if
you
want
to
open
and
correct
me
but
I
think
that's
the
general,
the
the
general
gist
of
number
10.
F
I
guess
well,
I
understand
you,
maybe
maybe
the
other
folks
can
pop
in
but
like
I
I
at
my
house,
I
have
an
electric
vehicle
charging
station
in
my
driveways
was
the
idea
that
would
be
opened
up
to
the
public
or
and
then
I'd
be
paying
for
other
people
to
charge
their
vehicles
or
or
are
you
talking
about
like,
like
a
public
charging
in
residential
areas
like
the
I
guess,
I'm,
just
a
little
unclear
on
what
you
mean
by
that.
K
So
we'll
definitely
make
sure
to
clarify
this
when
we
present
in
June
to
start
I'll
say
the
proposal.
K
10
is
mostly
related
to
resident,
like
multi-family
residential
developments
that
have
required
parking
spaces
and
allowing
a
portion
of
those
required
parking
spaces.
So
this
is
the
like
larger
apartment,
new
larger
apartment,
building
developments
to
be
accessible
to
the
public
instead
of
just
accessory
to
the
residents
in
that
building.
K
It's
also
not
a
requirement,
so
it
wouldn't
make
any
one
have
to
make
a
private
residential
parking
space
accessible
to
the
public,
but
it
would
allow
a
portion
of
parking
spaces
to
be
made
available
to
the
public.
Does
that
make
sense.
F
Yeah,
that's
that
that's
helpful
to
understand
that
it's
for
it's
basically
for
multi
or
apartments
or
or
you
know,
buildings
that
have
garages
and
things
like
that.
So
let's
understand
the
answer.
Does.
E
Anybody
know
if
this
also
refers
to
the
parking
spaces
in
the
public
right-of-way
that
aren't
metered,
that
are
in
residential
street,
that
there
are
proposals
and
and
maybe
even
areas,
maybe
even
installations
already
in
the
city,
that
that
was
how
I
residential
parking
spaces
I
didn't
read
it
as
being
on
private
property,
but
in
the
public
right-of-way
putting
the
charging
stations
there.
I
don't
know
if
this
refers
to
that
yeah.
K
But
the
the
zoning
owed
in
New
York
City
applies
to
tax
Lots,
so
it's
things
that
are
happening
on
property.
K
K
The
idea
here
is
that
we
that's
where
we
have
jurisdiction,
that's
the
department
of
City
Planning,
and
also
that
we
want
to.
We
want
to
kind
of
unlock
these
private
parking
spaces
that
exist
and
make
make
them
publicly
accessible
for
charging
in
order
to
make
electric
vehicles
more
feasible
in
the
city.
Thank.
A
G
Thank
you
all
and
and
just
to
follow
up
on
that
question.
Then
I
know
that
there
are.
You
know
there
are
entities
that
that
have
sort
of
seized
the
opportunity
to
try
to
install
electric
stations
on
on
private
properties,
predominantly.
E
G
You
know
in
shopping,
centers
and
other
you
know
commercial.
You
know
on
other
commercial
properties
is
this.
Are
the
proposals
here
also
designed
to
to
try
to
facilitate
those
projects
moving
forward
to
try,
you
know
to
try
to
get
them
deployed
in
a
more
you
know,
Expeditions.
K
Fashion
I'd,
say
yeah,
so
that
is
your
question
relates
to
proposal
number
nine
on
this
slide
and
we'll
talk
about
that
more
in
detail.
When
we
come
to
present
okay.
G
Fair
enough,
Steve
I
still
see
your
hand
up.
So
did
you
have
a
follow-up.
F
Yeah
I
guess
going
back
to
the
items
that
you
were
focusing
on.
I
did
have
a
question
about
solar.
You
mentioned
the
historic
districts
and
how
they
have
restrictions
and
that
we
have
multiple
historic
districts
in
our
community
districts.
F
I
guess
do
we
have
any
idea
like
the
extent
to
which
you
know
there
are
folks
who
are
live
in
historic
districts
and
want
to
are
interested
in
in
getting
solar
but
are
dissuaded
from
you
know
all
the
Hoops
that
they'd
have
to
jump
through
to
do
so
and
the
restrictions,
and
you
know
what,
if
there's,
if
there's
reasonable
things
that
that
could
be
changed
and
if
so,
if
that
would
actually,
you
know,
have
a
result
of
folks
adopting
solar
to
a
noticeable
degree.
I
Yes,
I
think
this
was
you
know.
We
actually
discussed
this
very
recently
when
we
met
with
DCP
for
the
proposal
that
I
focused
on
currently
LPC
process
would
still
apply
to
any
building
in
a
horse,
historic
district.
So
you
know
there
this
wouldn't
be
an
override
of
the
LPC
process.
I
I
believe
that
you
know
there
are
discussions
going
on
about
how
the
LPC
you
know
how
sustainability
interventions
in
buildings-
and
you
know,
building
technology-
could
be
better
integrated
into
their
process,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
the
specifics
of
how
that
might
play
out
or
the
timeline
for
for
what
that
might
look
like.
E
And
Steve
I
have
a
call
in
and
hopefully
we'll
get,
and
it
certainly
will
get
an
answer
before
the
DCP
presentation,
but
trying
to
find
out
if
LC,
if,
if
the
landmarks
preservation
commission
is
anticipating
or
considering
certificates
of
appropriateness
in
the
districts
versus
for
individual
homeowners,
so
so
maybe
we'll
have
more
light
shed
on
that
by
then.
G
Yeah
I
just
I
know
it
was
noted
in
the
in
the
chat,
but
just
to
just
to
State
it
for
everyone
as
well.
That
Emily
Bachman
has
spoken
a
few
times
is
from
PCP
and
his
spearheading
these
amendments.
So
thank
you,
Emily
for
joining
us.
G
Okay,
we'll
entertain
any
further
questions
at
this
time
or
or
else
we
will
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
our
next
presenter
this
evening
to
thank
Morgan
profusely
for
all
of
her
work
this
year
on
this
project.
So
as
with
that
and
I
will,
thank
you
on
behalf
of
all
of
us
and
I
will
turn
it
over
now
to
Talisha
to
lead
us
forward.
B
B
You
for
that
Greg
and
thank
you
Morgan
did
you
get
to
Elizabeth's
comment.
B
Okay,
I,
don't
know
if
Elizabeth,
yes,
Elizabeth
is
still
here
so
Elizabeth
said
in
the
chat.
This
might
be
more
of
a
question
for
DCP
to
discuss
more
when
you
come
back
in
June,
but
wanted
to
get
it
on
the
radar
I
understand
that
reducing
eliminating
parking
mandates
are
discussed
in
city
of
Housing
Opportunity,
but
just
wondering
if
there
was
any
movement
on
the
corresponding
zoning
amendments
regarding,
regarding
that
as
the
way
parking
mandates,
incentivize
personal
car
usage
increases.
B
K
I'll
say
so.
That
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
in
Zoning
for
Housing
Opportunity,
which
is
the
third
of
the
three
city
of
yes,
zoning
tax
amendments.
We've
got
some
time
before
we
get
to
that.
We're
not
it's
not
included
at
all
in
Zoning,
for
carbon
neutrality
and
I
believe
the
current
timeline
for
the
Housing
Opportunity
package
is
like
to
certify
around
early
2024..
So
it
is
something
the
agency
is
looking
at.
It's
not
part
of.
What's
on
the
table
right
now,
for
review.
B
I
I
was
just
yeah
flashed
up
the
timeline
from
one
of
the
DCP
slides
that
I
had
included
at
the
beginning
of
my
presentation,
that
sort
of
showed
the
estimated
timeline
for
the
housing
for
opportunity
initiative
which
aligned
with
exactly
what
Emily
just
said.
B
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
again,
Morgan
for
your
great
reporting.
So
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
Lucy,
Phillips
and
Lucy
is
currently
with
the
fund
for
the
City
of
New.
York
planning
is
currently
this
fund
for
the
City
of
New
York
planning,
fellow
for
cb14,
and
she
is
here
tonight
to
report
on
the
context
and
the
status
of
Newkirk
Plaza
I'll.
Let
Lucy
give
you
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
what
else
she's
up
to
and
whatever
else
she'd
like
to
comment
about
yourself
so
Lucy
take
it
away.
J
Can
you
all
hear
me
yeah?
Thank
you.
So
much
Alicia
really
appreciate
that
Morgan.
That
was
amazing.
We're
both
fellows
along
with
someone
else
bill
for
cb14
this
this
past
year,
and
it's
been
an
incredible
experience
as
I'm
sure
you
can
all
guess,
working
with
cb14.
So,
let's
see
if
I
can
share
my
screen
and
hopefully
it
will
go
smoothly,
but
as
Morgan
showed
us,
sometimes
it
doesn't
even
matter
if
it
doesn't.
Okay,
let's
see
it's
opening
up.
My
system
preferences
hold
on
one
second.
Here
we
go.
J
B
So,
while
we're
waiting
for
Lucy
to
come
back,
can
you
just
tell
us
Morgan?
Are
you
gonna
continue
working
on
this?
The
city
of
yes,
along
with
you,
know,
tracking
the
the
same
things
that
you
have
been
tracking?
Is
there
anything
more
that
you're
going
to
be
doing
with
this
or
anything
different
yeah.
I
A
I
The
fellowship
actually
ended
this,
you
know
it
was.
It
was
just
for
this
school
year.
So
sadly,
my
work.
A
I
Cb14
will
come
to
an
end
soon,
but
I
you
know,
I
I
personally
will
definitely
continue
following
I.
Think
it's
super
interesting
and
I
think
you
know
the
carbon
neutrality
initiatives
is
one
of
three
and
I'm
really
hopeful
I
think
you
know
Sean
had
indicated
or
hinted
that
there
might
be
another
fellow
or
two
in
the
pipeline
in
subsequent
years.
I
So
hopefully,
if
this
provides
even
just
a
starting
framework
for
someone
to
tackle
some
of
the
other
upcoming
initiatives
and
do
maybe
a
similar
analyzes,
then
hopefully
that
they
have
a
good
starting
point
and
again
beta
NYC
was
a
really
helpful
resource.
I
would
just
reiterate
and
I
know
they
do
a
lot
of
work
with
Community
boards
on
this
type
of
kind
of
spatial
analyzes.
I
So
I'm
not
sure
what
you
know
how
the
arrangement
would
work,
but
there
if
they
were
really
great
and
I
know
they
do
a
lot
of
work
with
Community.
G
J
Had
to
get
out
of
screen
share
in
order
to
unmute
hold
on
one
second
again,.
J
J
It's
been
an
incredible
year,
as
I
said
a
little
bit
earlier,
working
with
cb14
and
getting
to
meet
people
in
the
community.
So
it
really
means
a
lot.
I'm
Lucy
Phillips
I'm,
pursuing
my
Ms
in
Environmental
Policy
here
at
the
new
school
in
Manhattan
and
I,
also
live
in
the
district,
so
I
feel,
like
I've,
seen
a
lot
of
your
faces
around
I'm
in
Kensington
and
I
love.
J
J
So
I
was
lucky
enough
to
get
to
work
with
cb14
on
this
project,
really
kind
of
focusing
on
how
to
determine
jurisdiction
and
to
provide
information
to
the
community
on
Newkirk,
Plaza
and
I'm,
going
to
give
you
a
kind
of
a
similar
presentation
to
what
I
gave
to
the
fellowship
a
few
weeks
ago.
That
being
said,
I
know,
many
of
you
are
likely
aware
of
some
of
the
information
that
will
be
in
the
first
slides,
but
I
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
an
understanding
about
how
I've
been
contextualizing
the
situation
at
Newport
Plaza.
J
In
order
to
really
convey
its
importance
show
context.
Newkirk
Plaza
is
located
in
community
district
14
in
South
Brooklyn
at
the
Nexus
of
the
Flatbush
Midwood
and
parts
of
Kensington
neighborhood.
You
can
see
on
this
little
Google
Map
screenshot
that
there's
a
little
bit
of
Green
Space
to
the
North
Prospect
Park,
and
then
there
is
some
to
the
southeast
and
South
West,
but
the
district
itself
has
very
little
open,
accessible,
green
public
space.
J
As
you
can
see
on
this
map-
and
in
fact,
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
know,
it
ranks
59th
out
of
59
districts
in
terms
of
walkability
and
access
to
open
public
Green
Space,
so
that
kind
of
brings
us
to
what
Newport
Plaza
is
and
why
it's
so
important.
So
it's
an
essential
Community
economic
and
Transportation
Center
connecting
all
of
these
neighborhoods
and
the
rest
of
the
city.
It's
widely
known
as
the
first
outdoor
mall
in
America,
as
it
officially
opened
in
1910,
and
you
can
see
in
this
top
photo
that
it.
J
This
is
the
railway
being
built
in
1907,
which
is
pretty
incredible
that
we
have
all
these
archival
images
of
these
types
of
things
happening
and
then
the
open
air,
new,
Kirk,
Plaza,
BQ,
Express
subway,
stop
runs
below
the
plaza,
which
is
shown
here
in
this
bottom
photo,
and
so
the
east
and
west
side.
Buildings
are
zoned
for
this
commercial
overlay
with
residential
areas,
which
is
what
we
see.
J
There
are
34
different
retail
spaces,
ranging
from
cafes
to
florists,
drug
stores
and
a
couple
of
Banks
and
then
above
those
stores
are
apartments
that
are
only
accessible
outside
of
the
Plaza.
So
essentially,
new
Kirk
Plaza
is
completely
close
to
through
traffic,
and
it
operates
as
a
pedestrian
Plaza.
With
this
kind
of
retail
and
transportation
access.
J
So
importantly,
cv14
requested
this
project,
not
because
of
what
new
cork
Plaza
is,
but
more
so
because
of
what
it
is
not
so
the
plaza
itself.
The
space
between
the
east
and
west
side
stores
is
technically
an
unmapped
City
lot,
as
you
can
see
here
in
this
San
sandborn
map
Atlas
and
no
City
agency,
has
it
under
its
jurisdiction.
J
So
for
decades,
City
agencies
have
refuted
ownership
and
responsibility,
claims
kind
of
volleying
responsibility
back
and
forth,
then
back
and
forth,
which
means
that
a
bunch
of
basic
services
are
not
met.
The
following
four
main
issues
have
been
included
in
community
District
needs
reports
and
are
widely
cited
by
community
members
and
Merchants
alike.
I
can
attest
that
I
would
also
kind
of
cite
some
of
these
as
the
main
issues
at
Newkirk
Plaza.
J
So
first
is
sanitation.
Dsny,
that's
permanent
sanitation
will
not
and
cannot
go
into
the
plaza
since
it's
not
under
the
purview
of
the
city
agency
and
so
a
local
development
organization.
J
Third,
there
are
multiple
possible
agencies
to
apply
to
for
funding
opportunities,
but
these
are
one-off
grants
and
don't
address
the
ongoing
need
for
maintenance,
new
projects
and
upgrades,
including
the
need
to
make
this
kind
of
a
Greener
space
that
provides
adequate
shade
on
hot
days
and
cleaner
air
to
breathe
right
above
a
subway
station
and
then,
lastly,
and
I
think
in
some
ways,
most
importantly,
or
at
least
is
the
issue
that
I've
heard
kind
of
more
complaints
about
again
and
again
from
various
community
members
is
safety.
When
the
lights
go
out.
At
the
plaza.
J
J
So
in
having
these
conversations
with
cb14
and
also
with
Flatbush
development
core
who
I
met
with
many
times
over
the
course
of
this
Fellowship,
it
became
clear
that
this
project
was
really
two-pronged.
First
was
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
get
a
city
agency
to
take
over
jurisdiction,
of
the
plaza
and
from
my
various
research
and
conversations,
I
really
do
think.
The
best
route
forward
is
to
designate
Newkirk
Plaza
an
official
pedestrian
Plaza
under
the
department
of
transportations
program.
J
They
completely
overhauled
it
and
it
looks
fantastic
so
as
they're
in
the
process
of
migrating
over
all
of
these
Pages
once
that's
finished,
we'll,
create
and
publish
the
new
Kirk
Plaza
website
pages,
so
I
have
them
all
outlined
and
I've
met
with
cb14
to
discuss
how
they
will
be
implemented,
but
they
aren't
ready
yet,
but
we're
hoping
to
have
those
out
to
you
all
and
to
the
public
sometime
by
summer,
so
hopefully
soon
stay
tuned
and
I
will
make
sure
that
you
all
get
a
link
to
that
when
it
is
done,
and
so
my
Approach
and
methodology
in
order
to
kind
of
respond
to
these
two
main
issues
of
jurisdiction
and
disseminating
new
plaza
information.
J
I
had
to
do
two
other
things
and
first
I
reviewed
cb14's,
Treasure,
Trove
of
documents,
photos,
meeting,
notes,
property
maps
and
deeds
going
back
to
the
1850s,
which
I
can
tell
you
was
honestly
a
true
Delight.
It
was
pretty
incredible
to
be
able
to
look
through
all
of
this
incredible
history
of
the
neighborhood
that
I
live
in,
but
also
just
of
Brooklyn
in
general,
and
getting
to
see
so
much
of
this.
J
So
many
of
these
documents
was
a
pretty
special
and
I
also
looked
at
sources
from
various
other
places
in
order
to
understand
ownership.
The
Plaza's
Origins,
what's
happened
there
in
the
last
150
years,
and
this
photo
at
the
top
actually
is
an
advertisement
for
the
plaza
retail
spaces
from
the
early
1910s,
which
I
just
thought
was
kind
of
well
and
then
secondly,
was
to
have
as
many
meetings
as
possible
with
as
many
different
people
as
possible,
including.
J
J
It's
been
48
years
since
the
Flatbush
Development
Corporation
formed,
and
it's
fought
for
Newkirk
Plaza
in
the
community.
Ever
since
it's
been
39
years,
at
least
since
City
agencies
were
first
made
aware
of
persistent
issues
with
sanitation,
cleanliness
and
lighting
at
the
plaza
it
has
been
28
years
since
the
official
lease
was
last
amended
by
the
city.
So
this
states
that
the
city
owns
the
property
and
that
the
New
York
City
Transit
Authority
leases
the
land
from
them.
J
It's
been
three
years
since
Eric
Adams
Then
Brooklyn
Borough
president
sent
a
letter
to
the
mayor
de
Blasio,
asking
for
the
matter
of
Newkirk
Claus's
jurisdiction
to
finally
be
resolved.
And,
lastly,
it's
been
one
year
since
the
FDC
officially
applied
for
pedestrian
Plaza
status
from
the
Department
of
Transportation.
They
still
haven't
heard
back
and
I
think
that
last
point
is
really
indicative
of
the
whole
situation
of
Newkirk
Plaza,
where
agencies
just
continually
volley
this
responsibility
back
and
forth,
meaning
that
the
plaza
and
the
community
itself
are
really
just
left
in
limbo.
J
J
There
is
a
big
question
of
whether
the
lease
is
on
a
year-to-year
basis
and
what
that
means
for
the
plaza
and
then
secondly,
I
think
that
a
Euler
process
should
be
initiated
to
remap
new
Kirk
Plaza
as
a
public
space
under
the
jurisdiction
of
an
agency,
which
hopefully
would
mean
that
these
services
that
are
currently
not
being
met
actually
would
be
met
and
I.
Think.
The
important
point
on
both
of
these
two
is
that
these
agencies
have
to
come
together
and
actually
agree.
C
J
Outcome,
otherwise,
this
no
man's
land
status
of
Nucor
Plaza
will
only
continue
and
then
a
few
more
considerations
that
I
had
just
kind
of
going
through
this
entire
process.
One
I'm
kind
of
wondering
if
the
city
is
spending
its
money
wisely
in
terms
of
giving
out
short-term
grants
for
basic
services
that
should
already
be
provided
to
Newport
Plaza.
J
J
Ultimately,
Newkirk
Plaza
has
major
historical,
Community,
economic
and
and
transportation
importance.
The
community
deserves
to
have
an
outdoor
green
public
space
to
convene
and
I
really
do
think
that
the
Dot's
pedestrian
Plaza
program
can
make
a
new
Kirk
Plaza,
not
just
a
place
to
walk
through,
but
a
place
to
walk
to.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
very
much
Lucy
that
was
very
interesting,
I.
Guess
we'll
open
it
up
to
any
questions
that
anybody
might
have
and
I
see
that
this
is
your
contact
information
on
the
screen
here
in
case
anybody
wants
to
contact
you
directly
or,
of
course
you
can
always
contact
the
community
board.
You
know
to
discuss
more
about
what
was
said
tonight
and
we'll
get
that
information
over
to
Lucy.
B
So
Barton
I
saw
your
hand
up
first.
So
why
don't
you
go
ahead.
H
J
So
I,
muted
yeah,
that's
a
really
good
question,
I'm,
not
exactly
sure.
If
that
I
think
that
I
know
that
we
can
start
the
process
of
a
Euler
without
them
coming
to
the
table
and
talking
and
I
think
that
that
process
actually
has
been
started
very
prematurely
if
I'm,
not
incorrect,
Sean
but
I.
Think
the
my
point
about
both
about
both
of
those
meeting
Dot
and
MTA
to
come
together
is
that
ultimately
they
will
have
to
in
order
for
something
to
actually
change.
B
B
B
A
G
And
Lucy
great
presentation,
so
the
question
I
I
had
because
I
looked
at
some
of
the
doc
I
looked
at
some
of
those
documents
as
well
to
see
what
the
what
the
answer
might
be
and
for
me
it
was
always
there's
this
gap
between
the
initial
easements
that
were
granted
by
the
the
property
owners
and
then
fast
forward
many
decades.
And
then
the
next
document
is
this
lease
that
acknowledges
the
ownership
by
the
by
the
city.
G
G
Did
you
find
any
evidence
of
you
know
what
what
may
help
to
connect
the
dots
there
in
terms
of
that
jump,
where
there
is
that
there
is
some
acknowledgment
that
the
city
actually
owns
it,
however,
there's
doesn't
seem
to
be
anything
in
the
record
where
it
where
it
shows
that,
because
you
know
I
guess
when,
when
the
you
know,
when
the
cut
came
through
those
you
know,
those
properties
were
still.
You
know
the
or
the
right
of
way
that
was
created
was
still
owned
by
the
property
owners
that
had
you
know,
pre-existed
there.
G
J
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I
mean
and
I've
seen
you
on
a
couple
of
the
the
emails
that
I've
reviewed,
so
I
know
that
you're
intimately
involved
with
a
lot
of
this
as
well.
That's
that's
the
meat
of
it
right
that
the
reason
why
these
agencies
are
able
to
continually
say
it's
not
ours.
It's
there!
It's
not
ours,
it's
not
theirs!
That
I
at
least
from
what
I've
reviewed
there
are
some
missing
documents
or
some
missing
information.
J
I
wish
I
could
tell
you
that
I
came
across
this
one
thing
and
it
was
like
this
is
the
answer,
but
I
did
it
and
I
think
that's
why
these
agencies
have
kind
of
gotten
away
with
being
able
to
say
this
is
our
responsibility
we
have
to
move
on
this.
J
It
is
clear
that
these
easements
that
were
all
granted
in
the
late
1800s
or
maybe
originally
I-
think
in
1903
to
about
1915
1920,
so
that
was
after
much
of
the
real
Road
was
actually
built
and
after
the
plaza
itself
was
built
as
the
retail
access,
above
the
plaza
or
above
the
subway,
opened
in
1910,
so
some
easements
were
even
being
allowed
and
presented
after
us.
Most
of
this
was
already
built.
I.
J
Think
the
thing
with
those
is
that
that
period
between
about
I
think
1925
is
potentially
the
last
easement
that
we
have
access
to
in
1953.
When
that
lease
was
first
started.
That's
where
I've
seen
the
least
amount
of
information.
I
could
probably
do
some
digging
to
figure
out
why
that
is
I,
don't
know
why
we
don't
really
have
as
much
information
for
those
25
year
period.
Although
I
could
you
know
make
some
guesses
but
I
think
that
that's
that's
it
right.
J
There
I
would
really
suggest
and
I'm
not
sure
if
anyone
has
talked
with
him
yet
but
Joe
Enright,
who
is
a
community
member
as
well
and
is
I
think
former
lawyer
and
has
really
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
going
through
the
history
of
this
area.
He
runs
a
Blog
that
also
discusses
this.
Many
of
you
may
be
aware
of
him.
J
He
has
a
very
good
understanding
of
the
easements
and
that
entire
process
that
I
couldn't
begin
to
I
couldn't
begin
to
compare
to
his
understanding,
especially
because
it's
from
a
legal
standpoint
which
I
just
don't
have
so
I,
do
I
think
if
it's
something
that
you
think
would
be
helpful,
I
think
he
would
be
a
great
person
to
talk
with,
but
yeah
I
mean
you
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
Greg,
that's
that's
the
issue
right.
There
I.
G
Think,
okay,
yeah!
No
thank
you
yeah,
because
I
I
that
that's
that
great
article
that
Joe
has
with
the
you
know,
sort
of
selling
Plaza
I
saw
the
name
underneath
it
was
like
CF,
Bond
I,
wonder
who
that
was.
You
know
in
terms
of
the
you
know,
sort
of
the
cheerleader
to
get
new
Plaza
off
the
ground,
so
yeah.
J
He
yeah
he
was.
He
was
a
huge
character.
J
He
was
essentially
the
one
that
pulled
for
the
easement,
so
without
CF
Bond,
the
East,
the
entire
easements,
probably
wouldn't
have
happened,
which
means
that
nuclear
positive,
probably
would
not
have
been
a
Express
stop,
and
he
was
also
the
one
that
kind
of
came
up
with
the
idea
to
have
a
pedestrian
Plaza
with
the
apartment
access
only
outside
of
the
plaza
and
doing
so
meant
that
the
storefronts
could
be
wider,
which
of
course
meant
that
landlords
could
charge
higher
rent,
but
also
meant
that
the
ways
that
the
aesthetically
that
the
storefronts
looked
like
just
looked
more
cohesive.
J
B
Okay,
thank
you
Steve
Europe
next,
so.
F
Much
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
It
was
really
interesting.
The
one
thing
I
wasn't
entirely
following
was
the
I
guess.
Maybe
the
last
thing
you
covered,
which
was
possible
litigation
I,
just
didn't
I
wasn't
following
what
type
of
litigation
you
referring
to
there.
J
Was
this
trying
to
go
back
to
the
actual
slide?
To?
Maybe
that's
that's
less
important,
but
oh
here
we
go
so
because
the
there
has
been
so
many
questions
of
jurisdiction
and
because
the
FDC,
the
Flatbush
Development
Corporation,
has
continually
tried
to
determine
jurisdiction
over
the
plaza
for
a
number
of
years
and
has
applied
for
this
pedestrian
Plaza
status,
but
just
simply
has
not
heard
back,
which
is
not
typical,
like
pretty
sure
every
other.
J
So
the
idea
with
the
lawsuit
which
is
probably
not
appealing
to
anyone,
including
any
of
these
Community
groups,
would
be
that
they
could
potentially
file
a
lawsuit
against
the
city
for
not
doing
it
anything
about
this
public
space
that
they
clearly
have
ownership
over.
J
So
that's
where
that
comes
in
I
say
that,
because
yeah
I
don't
think
that
that's
a
path
they
would
want
to
take
I
haven't
brought
this
up
with
FDC,
specifically
because
they
do,
you
know,
get
money
from
the
city
and
they
have
a
lot
of
relationships
with
them
and
so
I
don't
think
it's
a
route
that
they
would
likely
take.
J
But
I
do
think
that
it's
something
that
kind
of
needs
to
be
in
the
conversation
when
talking
about
this
public
space
is
that
the
city
has
opened
itself
up
to
a
lot
of
potential
lawsuits
from
various
Community
groups
for
their
lack
of
action
on
Newkirk
Plaza
as
a
public
space
that
they
own.
At
least
someone.
B
Sean,
you,
oh
sorry,
sorry
Sean,
you
have
your
hand
up.
Sorry
thank.
E
You
yeah
in
article
78
would
would
be
the
the
filing
and
I
bring
it
up
to
FTC
all
the
time
it
in
in
other.
You
know,
other
other
groups
too
I
mean
because
it
is
sort
of
sitting
pretty
for
for
taking
it
down
that
path.
We
used
to
also
sort
of
Wonder
Robin,
Robin
Redmond
from
FTC
and
I.
E
You
know
if
there
was
a
trip
in
Fall
not
wishing
anyone
harm,
but
then,
of
course
the
answer
is
that
that
claim
comes
out
of
the
Comptroller's
office,
that
it
wouldn't
settle
jurisdiction
and
we
say
I
want
to
thank
you
much
in
the
same
way
as
is
Morgan
you
you
know
you.
You
took
this
project
on
with
so
much
enthusiasm.
You
went
above
and
beyond.
E
You
know
the
the
minimum
that
could
have
still
made
this
a
good
report
and
and
reached
out
and
made
it
a
great
report
and
I
appreciate
how
how
much
you
felt
it
the
whole
way.
I
don't
know,
have
we
cried
together?
I
think
we
may
have
even
cried
together,
but
I
just
want
to
emphasize
the
other
jurisdictional
problem.
Is
that
you
do
you
make
this?
E
The
the
short-term
grants
or
Services
it
it
is,
it
is
totally
dependent
on
the
benevolence
of
the
of
the
city
and
mayor,
and
we
happen
to
have
a
mayor
now,
who's
from
Brooklyn
and
who
has
broke
as
Borough
president
tried
to
convene
the
the
stakeholders
together
to
hold
them
accountable
and
now,
as
mayor
has,
is
committed
to
trying
to
make
stuff
happen
there,
but
but
it's
all
through
FDC
grants
and
and
and
and
that
sort
of
thing,
so
the
jurisdictional
issue
really
secures
the
sanitation
and
and
events
and
all
of
the
things
that
city
services.
E
You
know
all
the
city
services
that
that
should
be
granted
at
a
city
site.
So
thanks
again
for
the
work,
I
can't
wait
to
add
it
to
the
website.
Thanks
for
working
on
that
too.
Another
like
extra
credit
project
within
this
project,
but
it's
great
I
appreciate
it
all.
J
Thanks
Sean
yeah
I
mean
I,
think
that's.
It
seems
kind
of
like
we're
at
this
inflection
point
where,
as
Sean
just
mentioned,
mayor
Adams
was
the
person
who
was
part
of
these
efforts
just
three
years
ago
to
really
try
and
make
something
happen
and
make
a
final
decision
on
the
jurisdiction
issue
at
nuclear
Plaza.
Yet
nothing
has
really
happened
and
that's
kind
of
like
the
cycle
that
Sean
has
been
a
part
of
that
many
of
you
been
a
part
of
for
so
many
years,
and
it's
like
you
know
with
this
timeline.
How
long?
J
How
long
is
this
timeline
going
to
go
on?
How
much
longer
are
they
going
to
keep
just
kind
of
ignoring
their
responsibility
to
this
public
space,
especially
in
a
community
that
really
needs
it
and
really
deserves
it,
and
so
I
think
that
for
all
of
this,
like
city
of
yes,
it
really
feels
like
a
no
no
no
to
new
Kirk
Plaza
and
it's
frustrating
and
I
think
I'm,
really
hoping
that
you
know
the
more
people
we
talk
with
and
the
more
people
who
become
aware
of
this
project.
J
They
at
least
they
can't
say
they
don't
know.
What's
going
on
there,
because
I
will
tell
you
many
of
the
conversations
I
had
with
Brooklyn
Borough
Hall,
that
Sean
was
a
part
of
with
with
some
of
the
other
government
officials.
They
didn't
even
know
about
new
Kirk
Plaza.
They
didn't
know
where
it
was.
They
didn't
even
know
if
there
wasn't
even
a
place
to
have
an
issue
about,
because
they
didn't
know
that
it
was
placed
place
right
and
so
I
think
that's
a
huge
problem.
J
I
think
that
highlighting
this
area,
and
not
just
for
it's
like
historical
importance
but
also
its
Community
importance,
is
really
big,
and
you
know
at
one
of
those
meetings,
broken
boraha
said
this
seems
like
a
small
town
issue.
I
can't
believe
that
this
is
happening
here
in
Brooklyn
and
Sean
and
I
kind
of
looked
at
each
other
like
yeah.
It's
happening
here
in
Brooklyn
like
let's
do
something
about
this
like
this
is
not
just
some
small
town
issue.
J
E
Me
yeah
can
I
can
I.
Add
to
that
because
another
comment
that
stayed
with
me
in
that
meeting
was
the
the
current
Borough
president
land
use
staff
said:
oh,
we
don't
like
when
land
isn't
claimed,
because
you
know
so
because
this
is
such
a
Preposterous
issue,
sometimes
I
think
a
Preposterous
solution
like
what.
If
somebody
comes
along
and
proposes
a
26-story
building
on
new
Kirk
Plaza,
who
would
claim
it
then,
but
but
that
is
it
that
did
resonate
with
me.
G
J
I
mean
that's,
that's
a
good
question
about
the
physical
construction.
I
can
I
have
some
documents,
at
least
that
could
shed
light
on
that
it
was
built
in
the
process
of
the
railroad
being
built,
so
that
was
obviously
a
brt
Brooklyn
rapid,
which
is
an
MTA
predecessor
entity
that
built
that,
and
they
decided
that
they
wanted
it
to
be
open
air
on
purpose
to
to
be
able
to
have
this
space
above
and
in
order
to
create
more
areas
for
development.
So
it
either
way.
J
I
know
that
what
was
MTA
was
definitely
involved
in
that
construction,
and
we
know
that
too,
because
of
the
actual
pillars
that
you
know
hold
up
the
plaza
that
those
are
MTA
property
but
I
can
find
out
more
I
can
look
back
a
little
bit
in
my
documents
and
see
if
I
can
ask
routine.
Maybe
who
is
actually
doing
that
kind
of
building
for
that
or
I
know
at
least
Joanne
Wright
would
would
have
a
good
answer.
All.
B
So
I
I
I
have
a
a
sort
of
question
I'm
wondering
if
you
can
maybe
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
whether
or
not
because
you
had
on
that
last
slide
that
it's
a
possibility.
One
of
the
possibilities
is
to
make
this
space
a
private,
a
privately
owned
space.
B
So
do
you
know
who
owns
601
over
there
and
if
they
own
other
properties
on
new
Kirk
Plaza
and
what
would
stop
like,
let's
say,
a
private
developer
for
just
sort
of
taking
over
the
plaza,
or
at
least
you
know,
one
developer
on
one
side
and
then
another
developer,
taking
over
the
other
side
and
sort
of
taking
ownership.
Is
there
some
kind
of?
Would
there
be
problem?
I
guess
a
huge.
J
Problem
huge
problem,
I
know
Sean
will
definitely
speak
to
this
as
well,
because
we've
had
many
conversations
about
this,
and
she
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
know
about
this.
But
the
person
who
owns
the
landlord,
who
owns
six
to
one
model
girl,
also
owns
the
former
Santander
Bank,
a
lot
like
at
the
southeast,
in
the
plaza,
so
both
those
vacant
lots
are
owned
by
the
same
landlord
and
he's
part
of
a
family
of
real
estate
owners
and
developers
that
own
other
buildings
throughout
Brooklyn.
J
So,
as
we
have
discussed
in
the
past
on,
it
seems
like
there
is
really
no
incentive
for
this
landlord
to
build
there,
because
he
maybe
doesn't
need
the
money
or
doesn't
need
the
income
and
so
yeah.
For
me,
at
least
this
poses
a
huge
question
of
what
happens.
If
then,
they
get
excited
and
a
bunch
of
leases
go
up.
A
bunch
of
people
want
to
sell
their
area
and
they
just
decide
that
they
want
to
buy
up
all
of
those
stores
along
Newport
Plaza.
J
That
could
happen
as
far
as
my
understanding,
of
course,
I
don't
have
again
the
the
legal
background
of
that,
but
I
do
believe
that
that
is
possible
or
that
they
could
just
keep
these
Lots
empty
for
ever
I
mean
there's
no,
it's
private
land
right,
like
those
those
lots,
are
privately
owned.
So
there
is
no
there's
no
way
that
we
can
say
you
must
do
this.
So
I
think
that
that
is
a
huge
issue
and
Sean
I'm
sure
you
could
add
more
color
to
that.
E
Actually,
it's
it's
weird,
the
the
Lots,
the
the
lot
sort
of
face
out
to
the
street
from
the
building
line
to
the
street.
So
from
the
back
of
the
building,
which
is
the
front
of
Newkirk
Plaza
that
would
on
a
regular
city
map
that
would
have.
That
would
be
the
backyards,
but
it
doesn't,
but
the
property
line
doesn't
extend
it's
the
plaza
itself
is
sort
of
what's
in
no
man's
land
and
then
the
building
line
forward
to
the
Marlboro
Road
and
East
16th
Street.
E
That's
those
are
the
lots
so
they're
they're
weird,
you
know
they're
weird,
there's
no
backyard
in
these
buildings
or
there's
no
Frontage
on
the
new
Plaza
side.
The
corner
buildings
are
different
and
that's
why
those
two
spaces
look
a
little
bit
different
and
maybe,
but
you
know,
I
and
I
also
don't
remember
the
zoning
map
there,
but
that
would
also
limit
what
could
be
done,
but
it
is
I've,
never
thought
of
that.
E
B
Well
then,
I
I
guess
I.
Also
wonder:
is
it
worth
it
as
a
part
of
just
sort
of
understanding?
B
E
B
E
Many
many
many
many
many
many
times
because
they're
also
like
part
of
the
Merchants,
Association
and
and
and
and
maybe
Lucy
you
have
more
insight
than
I
do,
but
does
not
the
owner
does
not
play
nicely
in
the
sandbox
is
not
interested
in
engagement
and
and
actually
you've
got
Ken
Lazar
from
dob
here
dob
was
instrumental
in
the
601
psychic
and
I
spoke
a
lot
about
that
site
and
dob
had
to
call
in
their
their
legal
department
in
order
to
address
the
the
errant
building
or
or
actually
it
was
a
demo
I
think
it
was,
and
demo
without
perimeter
be
on
the
scope
of
the
permit
and
then
and
then
we
had
some
concerns
about
the
Integrity
of
the
Transit.
E
C
So
if
I
can
join
in
this
conversation,
I
mean
this
is
what
my
thinking
is.
Is
boy
I
can't
imagine
how
difficult
it
is
to
build
on
these
Lots
because
there
has
to
be.
You
know
the
the
buildings
that
are
there
pre-existing
current
code
and
then
you'd
have
to
come
up
to
code
and
then
you're
dealing
with
MTA
property,
which
is
so
directly
adjacent
I
would
imagine
that
would
be.
You
know
pretty
impossible
to
put
something
up
very
big.
B
C
B
So
you're
kind
of
cutting
in
and
out
a
little
bit
there,
so
I
didn't
catch
everything
that
you
that
you
said
but
yeah
I
don't
know.
If
Ken
Lazar
wants
to
comment
on
that
at
all,
but
I
I
would
think
that
you
know
if
you're,
if
because
since
so
those
are
businesses
there,
that
it's
not
that
difficult
to.
Let's
say
you
know
renovate
those
and
bring
those
up
to
code,
but
you
know
I
I,
imagine
at
the
corners.
B
You
know
there's
a
lot
more
to
do
if
they
want
to
build
up
a
substantial
apartment
building,
but
that's
I
guess
a
consideration
about
it.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
else
that
they
want
to
have
a
question
for
Lucy
I
have
a
comment
that
they
wanna
put
out
there.
B
Okay
well
seeing
No
Hands.
Thank
you
very
much.
Lucy
I
think
that
you've,
given
us
a
I,
I
love,
seeing
all
those
historic
photos
from
back
in
the
day
and
I,
didn't
know
that
it
was
Newkirk
Plaza.
The
first
outdoor
mall
in
America.
B
Maybe
that's
it:
maybe
we
go
to
landmarks
with
it
and
then
landmarks.
Well
then,
and.
B
Okay,
well,
thank
you
very
much.
I
I,
don't
know
if
Greg,
if
you
had
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
add
so
I
guess
at
eight
o'clock,
we
can
end
it
right
there.
Thank
you
again,
Lucy.
That
was
a
great
presentation
and
you
know
now
I'm
percolating
about
Newkirk
Plaza.
You
know
in
a
completely
different
way,
so
thank
you.
B
I
appreciate
that
and
I
think
that
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
a
a
sort
of
landing
page
on
the
cb14
website
to
you
know
just
learn
a
little
bit
more
and
sort
of
track
it
a
little
bit
more
because
that
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
become
something
that
the
entire
district
is
going
to
be.
You
know
more
gravitating
towards
Sean.
Did
you
want
to
say
something
I
just
before.
E
We
conclude,
I
did
want
to
Morgan
will
be
sharing
her
deck,
and
so
that
will
be
on
the
website
and
Lucy.
Before
we
open
up
your
whole
page.
Can
we
put
your
deck
on
the
on
the
planning
fellows
portion
of
the
website?
Of
course,
good.
So
we'll
have
the
information
there,
but
I
do
want
to
encourage
people
and
we'll
get
the
word
out
to
take
a
look
at
Morgan
stuck
prior
to
June
8th
when
we
meet
with
DCP
and
we'll
try
to
post
other
DCP
resources.
E
You
know
because
they've
had
some
listening
sessions
and
I'll
see
what's
available
from
them,
so
that,
because
we
do
have
such
a
tight
turnaround
on
this,
given
our
schedule
and
their
deadline,
maybe
a
little
homework
before
June,
and
so
so
we
can
kind
of
hit
the
ground
running
when
they
present
on
on
June
8th.
So
we'll
try
to
gather
that
all
together
in
a
in
an
organized
fashion.
But
again
thank
you
to
Lucy
and
Morgan,
really
just
Stellar
reports
really
really
good.
Both
of
you.