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From YouTube: CB14 Transportation Committee Meeting (6-8-22)
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Transportation Committee Meeting
DATE: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 (rescheduled)
LOCATION: Online meeting, 6:30 PM
AGENDA
1. DOT presentation on school safety initiative at Avenue M, East 12th Street, Chestnut Ave – Elena Lunyova, Senior Project Manager,
Department of Transportation
2. Other business
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Yep,
okay,
all
right
welcome
everyone
glad
to
see
another
well-attended
transportation
committee
thanks
for
joining
us
virtually
on
a
wednesday
on
wednesday
june
8th,
we
have
one
primary
item
on
the
agenda
and
that
is
department
of
transportation
is
presenting
on
a
school
safety
related
issue.
I
believe
on
avenue,
m
and
east
12th
street,
and
to
present
that
I
believe
elena,
are
you
here.
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Lost
your,
I
lost
your
picture.
Oh
I
see
you
there.
Okay,
yeah
all
right
yeah.
So
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
start
with
the
presentation
and
oh
I
didn't
introduce
my
co-chair
barton
prasan
as
well
I'll,
be
moderating,
but
barton
is
here
as
well.
So
if
you
want
to
get
started,
thank
you
sure.
Okay,.
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When
we
initiated
work
on
this
project,
we
met
met
with
several
schools
in
the
area
and
throughout
the
work
on
this
project,
we
met
pretty
much
with
every
almost
every
elected
official
that
represents
your
neighborhood
and
we
have
also
met
with.
I
was
I'm
representative
of
icb14
for
a
walkthrough.
I
believe
it
was
this
winter
okay.
E
So,
after
looking
at
the
area,
we
have
proposal,
but
we
have
some
improvements
at
three
intersections.
The
biggest
one
is
on
avenue,
m
and
s12
street.
So
I
will
focus
most
of
your
attention
on
that
intersection
and
there
are
small
improvements
proposed
next
to
basically
academy
on
elm
avenue
and
it's
13th
street
and
next
to
mario
high
school
on
bay
avenue
and
east
17th
street,
and
pretty
much
since
we
started
working
on
this
project.
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So
this
slide
shows
you
all
kind
of
maneuvers
that
we
have
observed
drivers
doing
through
this
intersection
at
different
times
of
day
pretty
much
a
current
design
of
intersection
allows
for
and
encourages
bed
driver
behavior.
So
you
see
u-turn,
you
see
very
quick
turns
through
the
intersections.
You
see
people
cutting
through
where
they're
not
supposed
to
cut
through,
I
mean
pretty
much,
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
intersection.
It's
pretty
messy.
E
So
if
you
can
see
the
top
aerial
view,
it
shows
how
people
cross
through
across
is
12th
street
when
they
want
to
walk
on
avenue
m
east
to
west,
so
pretty
much.
They
are
walking
for
150
to
200
feet
fully
exposed
to
traffic,
and
here
the
the
photos
are
showing
you
a
gentleman
with
a
child
who
is
pretty
much
trying
to
make
his
way
through
the
intersection
of
west
to
east
and
being
cut
off
by
multiple
cars,
and
this
is
very,
very
typical.
E
Another
issue
with
intersection
is
very
long
crossing
distances,
so
we're
talking
about
80
feet
on
west
side
of
intersection
and
65
on
the
other.
This
is
a
very
significant
distance
to
short
in
to
cross
in
one
single
signal
cycle:
four
underage
pedestrians
and
for
elderly
pedestrians,
and
there
is
a
high
concentration
of
both
in
this
area.
E
So
what
we
are
proposing
is
we
are
proposing
to
closely
plane
and
slip
lines
on
avenue
m
and
to
normalize
the
intersection
by
creating
creating
new
big
pedestrian
spaces.
So
the
area
you
see
in
gray
will
be
built
out
in
concrete,
so
we're
proposing
normalizing
the
intersection
and
making
it
a
regular
four-legged
intersection.
E
We
will
keep
the
chestnut
avenue
open
for
traffic,
but
in
order
to
do
so
and
make
the
intersection
safe,
we
will
change
the
chestnut
avenue
direction
from
eastbound
to
westbound
over
here
on
coney
island
avenue.
We
will
install
hardin
center
line.
That
would
prevent
people
exiting
chestnut
avenue
from
going
anywhere,
except
for
up
on
coney
island
avenue.
E
E
And
construction
line
of
this
proposal,
this
will
be
a
capital
project.
We
were
able
to
find
funding
for
this
and
add
the
scope
of
work
to
an
existing
capital
project
by
dot.
This
is
a
complex,
multi-site
project,
so
the
construction
for
the
project
is
scheduled
between
2023
and
2025.,
since
the
project
is
still
in
design,
I'm
not
able
to
confirm
more
specific
timelines
yet,
but
that's
the
approximate
schedule.
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E
This
intersection
is
is
17th
street
and
bay
avenue,
and
we
heard
complaints
from
school
that
kids
do
not
have
safe
way
to
cross
from
school
to
the
playgrounds
here
and
that
vehicles
from
bay
avenue
are
speeding
onto
17th
street
we've
started
the
intersection
for
and
always
stop
and
just
got
approved.
So
we
would
be
installing
crosswalks,
as
you
can
see
in
the
top
graphic
right
here,
and
we
would
be
installing
a
curb
extension
that
would
force
drivers
to
slow
down
when
making
a
turn
next
to
the
playground.
E
Now
so
this
is
a
much
smaller
proposal,
but
a
similar
one.
This
is
for
base
base
yak
of
academy,
a
small
painted,
curb
extension.
These
are
pretty
standard
all
over
the
city
and
we
often
install
them
next
to
schools.
They
basically
increase
visibility
and
yeah.
They
just
make
kids
more
visible
when
they're
crossing.
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Has
her
hand
up,
but
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
just
because
I
I
was
gonna
discuss
this,
raise
a
question
related
to
the
the
direction
as
well.
It
just
seems
like
maybe
the
pedestrian
pedestrian
plaza
would
be
a
good
idea
just
because
just
looking
at
it
from
a
logical
standpoint,
it
doesn't
seem
like
that
chestnut
avenue
stretch
would
be
used
very
often
because
what
you're
you'd
be
coming
from
it's
it's.
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B
How
were
the
schools
selected
that
you
talked
to,
and
also
did
you
speak
to
other
stakeholders
that
are
on
that
block
such
as
glock
kosher,
which
is
a
big
contributor
to
to
traffic
both
because
of
its
shopping
volume
and
truck
deliveries?
And
then
I'm
concerned
about
rambam
the
health
center?
That's
right
on
chestnut
and
whether
you've
spoken
to
them
in
terms
of
how
changing
the
direction
would
how
that
would
impact
their
ambulate
service
for
serving
patients
at
the
health
center.
B
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D
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D
C
I
can
just
sort
of
chime
in
and
sort
of,
follow
up
on,
sean's
point
elena:
where
are
we
in
this
process?
No,
as
sean
said,
maybe
there's
some
stakeholders,
that's
really
important
to
contact
and
get
their
input.
So
what
I
mean
what
would
happen
at
this
point?
If,
indeed,
we
asked
that
you
know
you
start
having
these
conversations.
Is
that
a
problem
for
dfc.
E
C
That's
great
trying
to
get
to
us
before
the
summer
break
because
all
too
often
some
of
the
agencies
will
do
things
over
the
summer
and
we
don't
get
a
chance
to
chime
in.
So
I
think
that's
great
that
you
can
just
sort
of
put
things
on
pause
while
you
gather
more
information
from
the
stakeholders,
also,
in
particular
to
ecm's
point
what
had
happened
with
that
original
proposal
for
a
pedestrian
wall
because
it
sounds
like
there
may
be
some
interest
in
that.
Still
lingering.
C
J
B
If
I
could
jump
in,
I
I
believe
in
and
maybe
ephraim
has
a
different
recollection
than
I
do,
but
I
believe
that
the
proposal
for
a
pedestrian
plaza
years
ago
was
up
further
on
avenue
in
by
dorman
dorman
plaza
and
not
not
not
on
chestnut
itself,
but
we
can
go
back
into
the
records
and
look
back
on
that.
I
do
not
think-
and
I
think
the
existence
of
the
health
center
may
may
impact
any
consideration
of
pedestrian
plaza
at
this
time
at
that
location.
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M
I
don't
see
any
justification
for
that
in
in
any
in
this
proposal
of
what
of
how
it's
going
to
make
it
safer,
and
my
first
question
is
what
other
possibilities
explored
a
maybe
cameras
or
b
may
the
speeding,
for
instance,
on
east
14th
street
by
the
school?
Couldn't
we
have
put
a
a
speed
bump
there
that
to
slow
down
cars
to
make
it
safer
for
for
students
to
cross?
Similarly,
in
the
the
change
of
direction
of
chestnut
avenue,
I
don't
see
how
that
happens.
M
M
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E
The
we
have
a
leading
pedestrian
signal
installed
at
this
intersection
that
allows
pedestrians
to
start
walking
earlier,
and
this
is
a
very,
very
effective
improvement
that
has
been
installed
on
avenue,
ammunitis
12th
street
and
as
a
part
of
this
project.
We
also
adjusted
the
timing
of
lights,
full
leading
pedestrian
signal
at
four
other
intersections
on
avenue
m.
M
E
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E
This
is
a
capital
reconstruction
of
the
intersection,
so
it
will
take
some
time
I,
without
consulting
with
department
of
design
and
design
and
construction.
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
estimates
because
I
don't
want
to
make
them
up.
We
can
get
back
to
you
on
this,
but
the
construction
will
be
taking
place
between
2023
and
2025.
J
So
thank
you
for
your
questions
in
terms
of
police
enforcement,
dot
can
and
as
well
as
a
community
board,
can
make
the
preteen
aware
of
the
traffic
violations
that
are
occurring.
However,
it
is
a
nypd
jurisdiction
and
prioritization
where
they
put
their
traffic
officers
again,
we
inform
them
of
the
location
and
we
do
get
traffic
officers
out
there.
However,
as
everyone
knows
here,
nypd
has
a
lot
on
their
hands
and
sometimes
they're
not
able
to
stay
in
a
location
for
weeks
at
a
time.
J
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N
It
seems
for
everyone
and
getting
rid
of
that
channelization
so
that
you
know
people
can
walk
on
what's
clearly,
a
sidewalk
will
be
a
huge
improvement
for
pedestrian
safety.
I
guess
my
you
know
a
question
I
have
is:
is
there
any
plans
to
consider
further
down
the
line
making
the
other
school
streets
changes
out
in
some
concrete
instead
of
just
flex
posts
and
paint
which
we
know
has
not
always
deterred
people
from
driving
over
them
or
parking
on
them?
Quite
the
same
way,
a
curb
has.
E
Yeah,
so
we
were
thank
you
for
supporting
the
proposal
and
we
were
extremely
lucky
to
get
capital
to.
We
were
very
lucky
to
get
the
funding
to
construct
these
improvements
in
concrete.
It
is
indeed
rather
typical
for
us
to
do
this
in
paint
first,
so
we
were
able
to
edit
to
the
scope
of
a
capital
project
and
we
will
work
on
adding
the
other
two
intersections
to
a
different
capital
project
as
well.
O
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
steve,
thank
you
for
the
presentation,
alina
and
the
balance
of
your
team.
So
I've
heard
valuable
from
both
board
members
as
well
as
you
and
your
team,
and
I
think
that
it
begs
the
question
since
the
general
role
of
the
board
is
to
be
advisory.
Although
an
important
voice
in
the
community,
it
was
raised
that
conversations
with
the
different
schools
that
are
at
parts
of
this
presentation
have
had
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in,
but
other
stakeholders
have
not.
O
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E
J
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P
Hi,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity,
and
I
appreciate
the
presentation,
elena
and
other
duty
people.
I
think
this
is
a
major
improvement.
I've
been
in
that
intersection,
and
I
agree
that
we
have
to
separate
the
design
issue
and
management
issue.
I
think
management
can
even
reinforce
the
improvement,
but
design,
of
course,
has
its
own
place.
I,
I
would
be
very
supportive
of
converting
that
triangle
to
a
pedestrian
plaza
instead
of
just
wasting
space
for
some
some
street
space.
P
That
might
be
confusing,
and
I
agree
with
glenn
that
this
might
actually
be
used
as
something
that
drivers
might
use
it
for
going
to
different
direction.
Changing
minds
which
is
basically
make
makes
unpredictable
behaviors
much
easier,
so
we
want
to
avoid
them
unpredictable
behavior.
So
if
we
close
that
spot
and
convert
that
to
a
pedestrian
plaza,
I
think
that's
there's
a
benefit.
I
think
it
would
be
a
missed
opportunity
if
we
don't
do
it,
especially
because
that's
the
raised
curb
there
is
now
is
a
dead
space.
P
But
if
you
connect
that
to
that
triangle,
you
have
more
space
more
pedestrian
space,
potentially
that
you
know
with
some
benches.
That
could
be
an
improvement
for
the
neighborhood,
and
now
that
this
is
the
capital
improvement
is
happening.
I
think
we
should
really
focus
on
that,
because
I,
instead
of
just
leaving
some
space
there
that
could
be
dead,
you
can
bring
some
people
and
and
and
provide
some
safe
space
for
pedestrians.
P
I
would
also
suggest
the
intersection
of
12th
street
and
avenue
m,
and
would
you
please
go
to
the
previous
slide.
I
think
that
this
is
like,
so
we
see
two
major
in
intersection
with
coney,
island
and
avenue
m
and
also
12
street
avenue
m.
You
can
raise
those
intersections
that
will
slow
down
cars,
and
again,
I
think,
would
prepare
in
you
know,
provide
more
safer
space
and
that
triangle,
the
entire
triangle,
would
be
very
usable
if
it
is
a
pedestrian
space.
P
P
E
Raise
intersections
is
something
that
duty
is
looking
at
and
it's
more
of
an
experimental
treatment
for
us
at
this
point,
so
we
consider
the
locations
where
such
improvements
are
installed
very
carefully
so
that
we
can
evaluate
them.
There
is
a
direct
conflict
with
buses,
because
such
improvements
will
slow
down
bus
routes,
so
this
is
a
very
tricky
compromise
to
made,
and
so
for
now
we
do
not
just
yet
install
these.
This
treatment
on
bus
routes.
E
Q
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
sort
of.
I
have
a
question
at
the
end,
but
I
wanted
to
quickly
express
my
support
for
this.
It's
so
good
to
see
you
guys
using
concrete,
because
we
know,
even
with
the
best
enforcement
you
can't
enforce
100
of
driver
actions
all
the
time.
We
know
that-
and
I
think
especially
in
an
area
with
a
lot
of
kids,
that
taking
the
job
of
keeping
that
area
safe
out
of
an
individual
police
officer's
hands
or
even
cameras,
is
really
really
really
good
idea
and
has
been
proven
effective.
P
Q
P
Q
Start
date
for
construction-
and
I
know
that
we're
talking
about
the
safety
of
children
crossing
the
street-
and
I
worry
that
in
between
today
and
then
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
more
kids
in
another
entire
school
year
or
two.
And
I'm
wondering
if
that
delay
is
a
design
thing
or,
if
there's
anything,
to
be
done
to
make
that
faster.
On
your
end,
but
so
appreciate
your
presentation
and
thanks
for
coming.
E
Thank
you.
So,
yes,
again
again,
we
were
extremely
lucky
to
get
funding
to
be
able
to
get
funding
for
this
intersection,
and
we
are
talking
about
a
multi-million
dollar
investment
here,
because
this
will
be
a
full
capital
reconstruction
of
the
intersection,
and
the
thing
is
that
propos.
This
proposed
design
would
also
require
a
lot
of
signal
work
and
we
would
not
be
able
to
do
that.
Work
earlier
than
2023
and
2023
is
when
the
capital
project
is
scheduled
to
start.
E
D
L
R
Thanks:
okay,
I
just
want
to
preface
this
by
saying
that
I
I've
been
using
this
street,
I
think,
every
day
for
over
45
years
and
sometimes
probably
5-10
times
a
day,
so
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea.
What
goes
on
in
that
corner,
I
should
also
say
that
I
was
a
volunteer
paramedic
with
hotseller
ambulance
for
15
years
and
treated
many
of
the
pedestrians
struck
at
that
corner
and
car
accidents.
So
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea.
What
goes
on
that
corner
number
one.
I
agree
with
joe
dweck.
R
I've
heard
nothing
in
these
proposals
that
will
actually
make
it
safer
just
because
someone
at
the
d.o.t
sitting
behind
the
desk
decided
that
this
these
ideas
are
going
to
make
the
community
safer.
It's
not
a
reason
to
do
this
case
and
point
is
that
the
d.o.t
also
decided
to
turn
king's
highway
into
a
one-lane
street
and
the
day
after
their
after
their
new
rules
went
into
effect
put
the
entire
midway
into
gridlock.
R
R
I
don't
understand
why
the
police
aren't
enforcing
this.
If
there's
such
a
high
number
of
illegal
u-turns
and
illegal
driving,
then
yes,
the
police,
should
it's
not
an
excuse
that
the
police
have
limited
resources,
assign
an
rmp
to
that
corner
I'll?
Let
them
enforce
it.
Additionally,
a
pedestrian
plaza
in
my
personal
opinion
would
be
very
destructive
to
every
store
and
resident
in
the
area,
who's
already
suffering
from
a
lack
of
parking
spaces.
There's
some
major.
R
It's
a
major
shopping
district
and
there
are
very,
very
little
a
number
of
parking
spots
number
one
number
two,
a
pedestrian
plaza
is
going
to
increase
crime.
It's
also
a
fact:
I'm
a
coordinator
of
flapper
sherman,
I'm
on
patrol
every
single
night,
I'm
a
liaison
to
the
nypd.
I
can
guarantee
you
if
that
becomes
a
pedestrian
plaza.
The
crime
will
skyrocket.
R
E
Thank
you
for
your
opinion.
I've
already
addressed
the
points
you've
raised
about
pedestrian
safety.
I've
read
address
them
twice
and
king's
highway
is
a
separate
matter.
That
is
not
a
part
of
this
project.
If
you
would
like
to
discuss
kings
highway
with
dot,
please
contact
our
brooklyn
board
commissioner's
office.
S
Yes,
first
elena,
thank
you
for
you
and
your
team
for
the
presentation.
I
know
the
community
will
weigh
your
suggestions
heavily
over
the
next
few
months,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
back
to
a
point
that
john
made
right
after
I
dropped
my
question
in
in
the
group
about
the
the
businesses
in
the
area
with
the
at
least
for
consideration.
S
I
have
to
push
back
and
disagree
that
pedestrian
pauses
you
know
somehow
make
areas
more
dangerous,
actually,
there's
no
statistics
that
shows
that
and
I'm
happy
to
have
that
conversation
with
you
separately
yoda,
but
as
a
co-founder
of
the
plaza
and
have
been
involved
with
the
browser
program
for
six
pedestrian
positive
program
of
dot
for
the
last
seven
years.
I
have
not
seen
a
single
statistic
anywhere
around
the
city
that
shows
that
pedestrian
plaza
has
increased
crime
in
an
area
that
that's
my
two
cents
for
them.
A
lot.
B
Thanks
yeah
just
to
circle
back
on
a
couple
of
points
that
were
made,
I
I
would
like
I
I'd
be
curious
to
see
the
traffic
numbers
that
dot
is
drawing
from
there.
There
have.
There
has
been
increased
enforcement
on
avenue
m
over
the
years
and
that
and
the
collision
numbers
have
gone
down
2020.
It
was
13
total
2021.
It
was
nine
total
in
2022.
When
I
got
this
data
back
in
late
february,
it
was
it
was
zero
year
to
date
at
that.
B
This
is
a
speed
hump
that
cb
14
requested
in
tandem
with
the
70th
police
precinct
at
the
behest
of
murrow
high
school
five
or
six
years
ago,
and
it
was
denied
so
thanks
for
going
back
to
the
table
on
that
one.
As
far
as
you
know,
schools
and
other
stakeholders-
not,
I
will
provide
some
suggestions
for
other
people
to
talk
to
like
kojo,
for
instance,
and
other
stakeholders
that
are
active
on
the
block.
But
I'd
be
curious
as
to
not
only
which
schools
you
spoke
to,
but
what
their
input
was.
B
I
know
yde
was
was
pretty
unhappy
about
not
having
some
of
the
requests
that
they
made
of
dot
considered.
Then
the
dot
went
to
speak
to
them
about
this,
and
so
that
that
felt
like
a
slight
to
them
and
then
of
course,
and
then
I
just
will
say
one
last
thing
about
a
pedestrian
plaza.
I
would
just
really
urge
this
this
board
and
d.o.t
to
consider
pedestrian
plazas
that
are
requested
from
the
hyper-local
portion
of
the
district.
B
E
B
E
Yes,
so
we
spoke
with
them
yesterday.
I
spoke
them
with
them.
Personally,
they
were
supportive
of
this
proposal
for
redesign.
They
only
had
one
request
and
I
can
tell
you
the
request
and
I
can
tell
you
why
we
could
not
satisfy
it.
They
asked
for
metal
bollards
along
the
curb
where
the
bus
stop
is
on
avenue
m
right
here,
and
we
cannot
install
metal
bollards
at
the
edge
of
the
curb,
because
people
who
are
trying
to
board
the
basketball
trip.
D
A
A
That
officer
now
has
to
figure
out
how
to
get
to
the
driver,
stop
the
driver,
confront
them,
etc,
and
we
we
know
that.
Unfortunately,
we've
had
you
know
a
number
of
incidences,
not
just
in
new
york,
but
in
other
places
where,
when
police
start
confronting
drivers,
it
does
not
always
end
well
either
for
the
police
or
the
drivers.
A
It
can.
You
know,
and
so
the
less
that
kind
of
method
has
to
be
used,
the
better
and
and
if
somebody
swings
around
and
and
makes
a
dangerous
move
and
there's
you
know
a
somebody
pushing
this
child
in
a
stroller
or
struggling
to
get
across
the
street
with
a
walker
and
the
driver
hits
them.
It
doesn't
matter.
If
there
was
a
police
person
there,
the
the
the
pedestrian
has
already
been
injured
or
even
killed
so
joe.
A
N
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
mention
I
didn't
say
this
super
clearly
the
first
time,
but
you
know
I
having
watched
people
make
u-turns
at
this
intersection.
It
seems
it
has
always
been
my
experience
that
people
do
it
when
there's
less
traffic,
either
late
at
night
or
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
the
day
and
part
of
in
every
u-turn.
I've
seen
swing
has
been
from
like
from
avenue
m
all
the
way
through
the
channeling
and
then
kind
of
into
the
space
of
chestnut
avenue,
and
so
that's
why.
N
I
think
that
this
concrete
will
really
help
is
because,
by
narrowing
the
space
you
have
to
make
a
u-turn,
you
can't
take
it
so
quickly
and
you
certain
you'd
have
to
hopefully
slowing
down
anyone
who
still
decides
to
take
one
illegally.
Would
you
know
help
make
it
safer
for
people
crossing
there
and
just
you
know,
help
reduce
you
know
get
get
achieve
that
vision,
zero
goal
that
I
think
everyone
here
hopes
to
achieve.
So.
N
E
E
O
O
So
if
we're
looking
at
ways
to
consider
this
project
favorably,
is
there
a
reason
why
the
bustling
alone,
which
has
timed
generally
it's
from
seven
to
seven,
would
be
not
allowed
to?
Let
me
not
make
it
a
double
negative.
Is
there
a
way
to
forgive
putting
a
speed
bump
across
the
entire
length
of
that
road
that
avenue,
but
rather
not
putting
that
impediment
on
the
bus
lane?
O
B
Considers
that
because
at
one
of
the
site,
visits
or
maybe
both
of
them,
the
idea
of
installing
a
speed
hump
on
chestnut
before
this
idea
of
a
conversion
of
to
westbound
was
was
put
forth.
We
raised
that.
I
raised
that
with
iana
vernikov's
office
and
we
were
told
by
dot
that
it
would
take
five
years
to
put
a
speed
hump
in,
so
they
weren't
going
to
consider
that
as
an
option
to
increase
safety
on
on
chestnut
that
this
would
be
a
more
expeditious
approach.
L
L
E
These
are
typical
cons,
so
the
project
will
if
the
project
goes
forward,
the
project
will
be
designed
by
department
of
design
and
construction.
They
typically
add
news,
trees,
new
trees
and
vegetation
to
pedestrian
spaces
like
this,
but
this
would
be.
This
still
needs
to
be
properly
designed
designed.
So
you
know,
but
typically
yes,.
T
T
E
R
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
more
thing:
if
you
think
that
turning
the
street,
the
other
way
is
going
to
make
things
safer.
Think
again,
because
that
goes
into
coney
old
avenue
right
by
a
bus.
Stop
I
guarantee
you
that
the
number
of
car
accidents
and
pedestrian
strucks
at
that
enthus
at
that
corner
will
skyrocket.
There
will
be
people
trying
to
make
a
left
turn
across
six
lanes
of
traffic,
even
though
they
won't
be
allowed
to
they'll,
be
people
making
right
turns
onto
coney
people
waiting
in
the
bus.
R
D
E
E
So
no
weird,
you
know
this
has
been
reviewed
by
multiple
multiple
engineers
and
the
issues
you're
flagging
were
not
flagged
as
to
pedestrian
safety
improvements.
I
think
I've
spoken
extensively
to
the
pedestrian
benefits
of
concrete
sidewalks
and
pedestrians
not
being
exposed
to
traffic
when
we're
when
they're
walking.
R
But
if
you're
saying
that,
you
don't
think
it's
going
to
cause
a
problem
on
cornell
avenue,
I
don't
know
what
you're
basing
it
on,
but
when
I'm
going
westbound
on
avenue,
m
from
east
13th
to
coney
old
avenue
and
it's
backed
up
two
blocks
and
I
have
to
wait
for
eight
traffic
lights
to
turn
green.
I'm
gonna
head
down
that
street,
which
is
now
going
the
same
direction.
I'm
gonna
cut
across
and
go
zip
down
that
street
the
other
way
to
get
out
the
coneys.
R
I
don't
have
to
wait
on
avenue
and
I'm
going
to
use
chestnut,
and
I
guarantee
you
that
people
are
going
to
try
to
make
that
turn
quickly
on
kony
and
even
though
you
say
it
won't
take
it
to
the
bank,
it
will
skyrocket
the
number
of
pedestrians
struck
and
car
accidents
at
that
corner
guarantee.
I
hope
this
is
recorded
and
come
back
in
five
years.
If
that's
done,
and
I
will
be
right
because
the
dot
is
consistently
wrong
on
everything
they
do.
R
I
know
there
are
engineers
sitting
in
albany
in
the
dot
office
wherever
they
are
making
these
decisions,
but
you're
not
sitting
here
on
the
street
and
watching
this.
Everyone
will
take
that
street
on
a
fast
speed,
so
they
don't
have
to
wait
on
three
streets
from
kony,
the
12th
to
13th.
They
will
cut
across
double
lane
of
traffic
and
zip
down
chestnut
avenue
to
make
a
right
turn
on
cody,
so
they
don't
have
to
wait
for
this
for
the
avenue
and
traffic
language,
sometimes
five
to
eight
times
before
you
get
through
the
intersection.
E
E
Full
traffic
analysis
was
done
and
there
are
tons
of
videos
that
are
also
watched,
so
people
do
actually
really
really
look
at
what
is
happening
on
the
street.
So
this
is.
This
proposal
is
not
just
my
opinion
that
I
randomly
came
up
with.
This
has
been
reviewed
by
a
lot
of
very
professional
people
that
have
worked
at
dot
for
many
years.
D
Thank
you
and
this.
For
clarity's
sake,
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
I'm
happy
to
put
in
a
note
for
the
2026
2027
transportation
committee
year
to
and
june
you
know,
reconvene
and
see
whether
yehuda
is
a
he's,
the
future
or
or
not.
We
can.
We
can
evaluate
that,
then
jordan,
you
have
your
hand
up.
F
Thank
you
very
much
as
not
to
disrupt
the
conversation,
because
it's
very
valuable
and
thank
you
so
very
much
for
this
presentation
and
the
thoughtfulness
of
all
the
interventions
that
you
are
attempting
to
put
into
place.
I
just
want
to
say
that
there
are
multiple
stakeholders
that
still
need
to
weigh
in
on
this
project,
and
it
is.
F
C
C
You
know
three
years
and
we
do
want
something
done.
We
don't
want
you
to
go
away
with
the
thought
that
maybe
you're
better
off
just
sort
of
leaving
this
all
be,
and
you
know
not
trying
to
address
such
a
ticklish
problem,
but
in
the
interim
anything
that
could
be
done
to
minimize
the
risk
to
pedestrians
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
Thanks.
P
M
Brown
had
said
that
this
should
be
tabled,
the
dot
I've
had
experienced
d.o.t
for
years
and
and
they
have
pulled
some
doozies
in
my
particular
office
in
warehouse
in
long
island
city.
They
actually
sent
the
entire
three
lanes
of
the
of
the
l.I.e
down
my
side
street
the
wrong
way
on
a
cobblestone
street,
which
was
which
we
used
for
our
15
trucks
and
the
neighbors
20
trucks,
the
entire
l.I.e
going
down
to
the
midtown
tunnel.
M
So
so
I
don't
have
the
the
confidence
in
the
dot
engineers
that
you
all
other
folks
have.
Also
the
avenue
m
is
my
home
also,
and
I
know
it
too.
Well,
I
do
not
I'm
sorry.
I
do
not
trust
that
that
they
sp
we.
That
enforcement
is
enough.
That
car
is
not
enough.
It
has
to
be
active
enforcement.
The
d.o.t
did
not
know
a
previous
study.
They
did
not
talk
to
most
schools,
they
don't
know
when
how
long
the
thing
is
going
to
take.
M
They
do
not,
nor
did
they
really
say
to
us
how
their
changes
are
going
to
stop
the
the
u-turns
by
the
way,
and
there
was
zero.
This
zero
collisions
this
year.
So
what
happened
this
year?
That
became
much
more
safer
than
the
other
years
that
they
studied.
So
yes,
I
really
really
echo
and
applaud
joanne
brown's
proposal.
Thank
you.
D
F
Sorry,
since
my
name
is
was
mentioned,
I
just
want
to
say
I
have
great
confidence
in
the
department
of
transportation
that
this
is
a
thoughtful
project.
I
merely
think
that
there
are
stakeholders
that
haven't
been
reached
out
to,
and
that
was
brought
to
the
forefront
by
our
presenter,
and
that
is
the
reason
why
I
am
recommending
it
to
be
tabled
and
up
to
the
co-chairs.
Thank
you.
N
Yeah,
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
if
there
is
a
you
know,
future
traffic
apocalypse
where
people
are
making
left
turns
when
they're
going
westbound
on
avenue
m,
it
seems
like
there
could
be
a
way
to
prevent
making
a
left
turn
from
avenue
to
chestnut
avenue.
You'd
still
be
able
to
get
to
chestnut
avenue
by
going
eastbound
on
avenue
m.
Just
you
know
seems
like
there
are
lots
of
options
that
don't
preclude
making
these
safety
changes
now.
E
N
T
B
Yeah
I
keep
going
back
and
forth
on
saying
this.
I
I've
been
thinking
so
much
about
why
you
know
dot
projects
and
and
resistance.
That
comes
a
lot
of
the
time
and
my
concern
just
as
a
is
that
sometimes
it
seems
as
though
d.o.t
does
design
these
projects
for
the
specific
location
and
it's
siloed
to
that
location.
B
If
you
know
it's
not
a
strong
present
preference
to
ban
a
left
turn,
but
did
you
even
model
it?
Are
we
looking
at
different
ways
of
of
installing
this
design
before
a
final
you
know
best
solution
is,
is
put
forth,
so
I
that's
not
a
question
I
don't
mean
to
to
philosophize
about
dot,
but
but
the
whole
concept
of
unintended
consequences
and
how
these
projects
relate
to
one
another.
E
Well,
I
will
speak
specifically
about
this
project
because
I
know
a
lot
about
it.
There
were
several
design
proposals
that
were
considered
that
were
considered
very
carefully,
and
this
was
ultimately
the
best
design
proposal
that
we
have
to
show
you
as
to
banning
the
turns
we
always
bend
the
turn
we
always
model
things
before
we
bend
turns
I'm
not
going
to
speak
about
coney
island,
coney,
island
avenue
in
2014
or
kings
highway,
since
I
was
not
working
on
them,
claudette
and
diane.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
this,
please.
I
Sean
we
can,
if
they're,
if
they're
issues
we've
been
visiting
kings
highway.
Quite
often,
we
know
there
were
still
some
adjustments
and
tweaks
that
we
needed
to
make
so
we
haven't,
walked
away
from
the
project
completely
we're
still
monitoring
it
and
the
other
location
on
coney
island
avenue.
If
there
are
issues
there
we're
happy
to
sit
down
and
go
over
any
issues
that
are
taking
place
there.
H
H
I
I
H
C
C
B
H
C
H
C
G
E
G
Had
expressed
our
our
displeasure
with
proceeding
with
this
plan,
like
you
know,
I
probably
along
the
same
decibels
that
mr
narenberg
did
you
know
I.
I
would
like
to
see
more
of
other
things.
Like
you
know,
I
I've
talked
frequently
about
you
know
how
I
asked
for
speed
bumps.
Then
it
takes
three
years.
You
know
to
get
a
no
or
finally
ask
for
a
red
light
signal,
or
if
I
ask,
for
a
stop
sign
and
how
long
it
takes.
G
You
know,
and
I
think
putting
putting
this
down
and
making
this
fundamental
change
to
the
direction.
You
know
just
one
example
of
why
I
think
it
doesn't
make
sense,
is
changing
the
direction
westbound.
It
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
why
we
want
directional
the
direction
of
that
street
to
be
westbound.
I
don't
even
understand
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
that
way,
except
possibly
more
traffic,
but
it
certainly
wouldn't
be
helpful
to
have
cars
coming
out.
K
G
G
D
D
G
G
I
I
I
just
want
to
say
I
I
don't
know
how
many
people
are
on
this
call
and
are
listening
to
this
meeting.
I
can't
possibly
imagine
how
many
people
understood
that
answer,
but
I
didn't
we've
already
spoken
about,
I'm
not
asking
for
for
more.
You
know
discussion
about
it,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
that
this
plan
was
designed
to
simply
drop
it
on
avenue
m
without
a
concern
for
the
necessity
of
it
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that,
and
I
hope
that
the
ot
is
open
to
continuing
real
conversations
about
it.
J
D
I
J
D
S
All
right
thanks
for
asking
my
question-
and
this
comes
actually
has
feedback
from
quite
a
number
of
the
board.
Members
that
live
in
the
area
are
questioning
the
redirection
redirecting
the
traffic
on
chestnut.
What
if
the
proposed
changes
went
through
and
we
just
didn't
redirect
the
traffic
it
instead
of
it
going
westbound,
it
just
remained
going
eastbound,
but
still
installing
the
the
traffic
measures.
E
So
the
the
ultimate
we
went
for
changing
direction
in
the
proposal,
because
there
were
concerns
about
conflicts
and
we
with
vehicles,
traveling
eastbound
on
avenue,
m
and
vehicles
that
are
using
chestnut
avenue
as
a
shortcut
to
get
on
avenue
m.
And
so,
ultimately,
the
recommendation
of
our
engineers
was
to
change
the
direction
on
the
street,
and
you
know,
change
in
direction
is
something
that
we
have
modeled
here
and
you
know
if
it
didn't
work,
we
could
change
it.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying
the
only
other
thing.
Florencia
had
asked
a
question
in
the
chat
about
pedestrian
safety,
but
it
looks
like
dwayne
added
a
response
in
the
chat
that
satisfied
varencia.
So
I
think
that's
that's
all
for
our
questions,
so
unless,
if
there's
anything
else,
I'd
like
to
greatly
thank
dot
for
for
bringing
this
to
us
and
and
and
listening
to
all
our
questions.
Thank
you
for
that.
E
R
K
Sorry,
just
to
jump
in
here
yeah,
this
is
nina
heyman
from
dot.
There's,
always
a
lag
in
dot
receiving
the
complete
crash
data.
Nypd
gathers
it
all.
It
has
to
go
to
the
state
and
then
come
back
to
us.
So
we
can
give
you
partial
data
for
last
year,
but
it's
not
reliable.
So
there's
always
a
lag.
If
you
look
at
any
dot
presentation,
we're
always
looking
at
a
five
year
period,
the
five
year
period
always
ended
like
one
or
two
years
ago.
D
All
right,
thank
you
for
that
and
with
that
I
think
I
think
we
can
wrap
up
thanks
again
to
dot
for
for
coming
by.
We
appreciate
your
patience
and
dealing
with
all
our
many
questions
and
look
forward
to
future
conversations
and
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
additional
information
you
said
you're
going
to
provide
to
us.
So
thank
you.
G
D
D
I
believe
council
member
lewis's
office
sent
around
an
email
inviting
cb14
to
join
a
like
a
transportation
town
hall-
that's
taking
place
tomorrow
evening,
so
hopefully
transportation
committee
members
receive
that
email
from
the
board
office.
If
not,
you
can
feel
free
to
follow
up
with
the
board
if
you're
interested
in
attending
that
tomorrow
evening,
arden
was
there
anything
else
you
wanted
to
raise
before
we
close
out.
C
Not
really
just
you
know,
since
we
gave
them
extra
homework
to
try
to
come
back
to
us
with
a
list
of
mitigation
measures
that
we
can
do
in
the
short
term.
I
guess
it's
sort
of
incumbent
upon,
probably
you
and
me
to
go
back
over
this
video
and
generate
a
list
of
the
questions
we
would
like
them
to
address.
C
You
know
it's
hard
for
elena
to
come
up
with.
You
know
immediate
full
answers
to
some
of
the
really
deep
questions
that
we've
been
asking.
So
I
think
you
know,
maybe
if
we
put
in
writing,
you
know
in
cc
the
pertinent
parties.
The
list
of
you
know.
Questions
such
as
you
know
why
chestnut
has
to
go
in
one
direction.
Not
another.
Just
ask
then
provide
a
little
more
full
explanation
for
why
those
changes
are
being
recommended.
It'll
just
give
us
a
little
bit
more
food
for
thought,
so
I'm
happy
to
do
it.
C
I
think
if
we
provide
a
list-
and
they
can
just
you
know,
we'll
pull
up
bullet
point
answers
and
we
can
pass
that
on
to
the
entire
board,
because
there's
so
many
people
here
and
the
members
of
the
public
who
seem
to
have
no
questions
and
ideas.
I
think
it'd
be
great.
If
we
could
just
pass
on
verbatim,
you
know
their
more
thorough
answer
from
dot
to
each
of
those
issues.
Just
so
in
our
spare
time.
L
L
F
F
And
then
we
will
wait
for
dot
to
interact
with
the
additional
stakeholders,
and
that
is
that
would
be
the
position
of
this
committee's
recommendation.
So
we're
waiting
for
stakeholder
to
interact
with
dot
and
we're
going
to
compile
a
list
of
questions
that
will
go
to
dot
for
them
to
analyze
in
their
plan.
Does
that
help
glenn.
B
L
F
D
D
B
B
So
I
will,
I
will
refer
them
to
dot
to
them,
but
of
course,
anybody
in
the
community
who
has
thoughts
or
questions
about
whether
such
and
such
business
or
such
and
such
school
or
or
civic
organization.
What
not
has
been
engaged.
Please.
You
shoot
me
an
email,
so
I
can
add
that
to
the
list
of
suggestions
to
dot.
L
L
It
will
be
almost
never
used
right
if
there's
no
traffic,
there's
no
reason
for
making
that
left
turn
and
if
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
there's
no
way
you
can
make
the
left
turn
because
traffic
heading
east
will
be
blocking
it.
The
only
reason
for
the
that
street
to
exist,
if
they
change
direction,
is
really
for
the
parking
that
will
still
exist
on
it,
which
you
said
on
both
sides.
L
So
I
I
don't
see
that
as
a
particular
problem,
whereas
if
we
keep
it
going
in
this
direction,
then
you
still
have
a
lot
of
people
when
the
track
is
heavy
at
the
intersection
of
coney,
island
and
avenue
m.
Who
are
going
to
make
that
turn
and
then
try
to
get
into
avenue
and
further
up.
So
I
kind
of
favoring
the
idea
of
reversing
the
direction.
L
B
I
want
to
put
out
there
my
apology,
I
should
have
said
it
before
when
d.o.t
was
on
the
call.
I
am
so
sorry
that
I
scheduled
this
meeting
originally
on
monday.
That
was
a
huge
oversight
and
an
insensitive
one.
So
thank
you
to
to
this
to
the
co-chairs
and
I'll
make
sure
I
thank
dot
again
for
your
flexibility
in
in
pivoting
to
to
appropriately
schedule
this.
This
committee
meeting
thanks
and
I
and
I
do
apologize.