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Meeting of Buncombe County's Affordable Housing Committee from Feb. 1, 2022.
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So
we
have
two
prior
meeting
minutes
that
are
up
for
approval
under
new
business.
There's
a
comprehensive
plan,
presentation
and
committee
poll
exercise
that
will
be
led
by
jillian
phillips,
after
the
words
there's
an
affordable
housing
goals,
discussion
which
will
be
led
by
chairman
newman,
followed
by
a
homelessness
services,
comparison
presentation
from
james
shelton.
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Hey
everybody,
I'm
gonna
try
to
keep
this
as
short
as
possible.
I
will
say
that
this
is
is
not
a
complete
presentation,
but
it
is
a
facilitated
conversation
with
your
committee
and
the
purpose
of
that
is
so
we
can
get
feedback
through
our
poll
on
public
input
for
stakeholders,
so
the
first
oops,
sorry
guys
I
keep
trying
to
move
my
there
we
go.
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So
what
are
the
steps
in
a
comprehensive
plan?
We've
been
using
the
sort
of
graphic
representation
of
a
tree.
Your
roots
are
your
are:
are
your
community's
issues
needs
wants
and
ideas
which
we
identify
with
that
public
input
you
analyze
data
data
trends
and
historical
and
regional
content
to
help
create
that
comp
plan
and
the
plan
then
creates
vision,
strategies
and
goals.
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So
you've
also
seen
this
graphic
before,
but
just
to
let
you
know
we
are
in
phase
two,
which
will
be
through
winter
through
spring
2022
and
we
are
in
that
community
engagement
window
one
and
currently
we
have
a
bunch
of
virtual
meetings
scheduled
and
once
omicron,
and
this
wave
of
covid
is
looking
better.
We
will
schedule
some
in-person
meetings
in
this
community
engagement
window
number
one.
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If
you
haven't,
please
sign
up
for
our
weekly
e-newsletter
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
you
to
attend
one
of
our
public
input
meetings
again
they
are.
They
are
virtual
right
now,
so
we
have
one
on
february
10th.
We
have
one
on
february
24th
that
we
are
going
to
try
to
focus
on
youth
and
we're
going
to
try
to
get
as
many
middle
high
school
and
college
students
to
attend
as
possible.
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Then
we
have
one
monday
march,
14th
and
saturday
march
19th,
and
if
everybody
would
move
to
slide
12
and
I'm
gonna
stop
sharing
my
screen,
you
guys
can
see.
This
is
the
comprehensive
planning
team
and
if
you
have
any
questions
reach
out
to
us,
and
I'd
also
like
to
note
that
our
new
intern
from
virginia
tech
has
joined
us
griffin
kearns.
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So,
if
griffin,
if
you
would
just
share
your
screen
but
he's
not
there
for
some
reason,
but
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
you
all
to
griffin
who
has
been
a
great
new
addition
to
the
planning
department
and
at
this
point,
unless
you
guys
have
any
other
questions,
I
can
hop
off
on
here
and
you
can
continue
on
with
your
agenda
any
other
questions
all
right,
I'll
turn
it
back
over.
Oh
sorry,
thanks.
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All
right,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
that.
That
was
great.
So
now
we
come
back
to
about
the
affordable
housing
goals
which
we've
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
in
our
recent
meetings.
So
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
with
the
county
commissioners
this
afternoon
at
the
information
briefing
meeting,
so
not
asking
for
any
vote
from
the
commissioners,
but
basically
just
you
know
kind
of
providing
an
update
and
report
to
them
about
these
draft
goals
that
this
subcommittee
has
been
working
on.
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So
basically
just
want
to
have
a
little
time
here
to
just
have
our
committee
huddle
to
see.
If
there's
anything
else,
we
need
to
talk
about
or
eyes
ideas
to,
discuss,
prior
to
or
and
in
preparation
for
the
commission
discussion.
This
meeting,
maybe
just
really
quickly
the
staff
have
worked
to
edit
the
presentation
from
the
last
meeting
it
has
been
as
we
talked
about
we've,
it's
been
slimmed
down.
Some,
it
goes
into.
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So,
but
let's
just
kind
of
walk
that
real,
quick
and
then
just
see
if
there's
any
items
that
any
commissioners
want
to
chat
about
further,
so
we're
prepared
for
our
discussion
this
afternoon,
all
right.
So
this
first
slide
just
kind
of
talks
about
the
housing
needs
assessments
in
the
community
that
we're
all
familiar
with
and
looked
at
before.
So
next
slide,.
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These
are
the
housing
goals
that
we've
been
discussing,
so
this
includes
the
the
1500,
affordable
rental,
400,
home
ownership
for
400,
home
ownership,
affordable
home
ownership
and
then
500
home
repair
and
then
400
workforce,
which
could
be
rental
or
homeownership,
and
then
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
goals
in
more
detail
later
in
the
presentation
to
talk
about
whether
we
want
to
have
the
stretch
goal
on
the
affordable
rental
number
as
well.
So
let's
keep
going.
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All
right-
and
so
I'm
sorry
just
this
simple-
was
this
slide
changed
a
bit,
I'm
just.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
seen
it
in
the
slim
down
format.
So
I'm
sorry,
I'm
just
looking
this
is
the
agenda
for
this
basically
for
this
presentation
right,
so
we're
going
to
consider
the
potential
value
of
the
county.
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Only
I'm
just
kind
of
talking
this
through
so
bear
with
me
for
just
a
moment
discuss
the
investment
needs
to
reach
the
county
goals,
potential
financing
scenarios
and
policy
recommendations,
okay,
yeah,
so
this
is
basically
sort
of
reviewing
the
what
we're
going
to
discuss
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
the
presentation.
So
sorry
about
that,
all
right
next
slide-
and
this
is
a
slide
again
instead
of
going
through
all
the
details
of
each
parcel.
This
is
a
slide
that
just
summarizes.
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I
think
that's
you
know,
I
don't
think
that's
unreasonable
under
that
assumption.
This
would
be
a
contribution
of
around
15
million
dollars
of
real
estate
value
towards
the
goals,
in
addition
to
whatever
financial
contributions
the
county
is
making
along
the
way.
So
just
a
slide
to
illustrate
you
know,
high
level,
you
know,
there's
the
significant
real
estate
value
we
can
contribute
to
the
the
goals
next
slide.
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So
obviously,
as
this
goes
forward,
I
mean
this
is
this
slide
was
really
in
some
ways,
just
kind
of
meant
to
paint
one
scenario
for
how
we
could
approach
this
there's
obviously
many
others,
and
if
we
do
do
a
bond
referendum
it
might
you
know
we
might
not
need
to
do
as
much
in
these
other
areas
right
like
we
might
need.
We
might
not
need
to
bump
up
the
county's
annual
appropriation
in
our
budget
if
we
know
there's
a
big
bond
revenue
coming
in.
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And
then
we
look
at
some
of
the
different
costs
to
achieve
the
goals.
This
first
slide
is
the
is
the
slide
that
describes
the
potential
cost
to
meet
all
of
the
goals
that
we've
identified,
except
for
the
affordable
rental
goal,
and
so
that
total
is
under
this
set
of
financial
assumptions
to
meet
all
the
homeownership
workforce
and
in
home
repair
goals
might
cost
in
the
27
million
dollar
range
by
2030,
and
if
the
county
directly
invested
half
of
that,
then
our
portion
of
that
would
be
13
million.
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Then
then
that's
one
scenario
where
it
would
cost
the
county
13
million
to
achieve
this
part
of
our
goals
so
next
slide
and
then
around
the
scenarios
to
reach
the
big
goal
around
affordable
rental
units,
the
the
four
scenarios,
ranging
from
all
tax
credits
to
no
tax
credits
and
the
first
one
is
assuming
that
we
did
100
tax
credits.
So
this
is
the
slide
that
describes
that
potential
scenario-
total
cost
of
build
out
of
48
million
dollars
are
assuming
ours
is
half
of
every
24
million.
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The
next
slide
is
a
scenario
where
it's
no
additional
tax
credits,
but
for
the
single
nine
percent
project
we
do.
Each
year,
total
investment
required
182
million
to
build
that
out.
If
our,
if
we
did
half
of
it,
91
million.
So
that's
the
other
on
the
other
extreme
of
that
scenario,
and
then
the
next
scenario
three
is:
if
we
did,
the
80
20
mix
total
build
out
cost
85
million
our
portion,
42
million
and
then
the
last
scenario
scenario
4,
the
90
10
ratio.
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I
think
there's
a
is
there
a
math
error
in
this
I'm
seeing
that
the
total
investment
between
the
two
slides
is
85
million
in
each
slide.
It
looks
like
is
that
in
the
county
cost
in
this
scenario,
three
the
county
cost
is
42.
The
total
cost
is
85..
Could
you
go
back
to
slide
four
again,
please
the
scenario?
Four.
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So
that's
the
s
same,
which
that's
not
there's
some
kind
of
there's
some
kind
of
math
error
in
there.
We
don't
have
to
figure
it
all
out
while
we're
in
this
meeting,
but
after
the
meeting
I'll
look
at
that
again,
because
I
think
that
there's
something
that's
not
not
correct
that
we
should
clean
up
on
that.
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The
second
is
the
different
funding
mechanisms
and
and
again
like,
as
we
think,
ahead
to
actually
discussing
and
voting
on
this
as
a
commission
like
my
thoughts
on
that
would
be
that
we
rather
than
like
in
this
slide
it
sort
of
asks
for
a
specific
endorsement
of
some
of
these
ideas,
but
I
think
it
would
probably
be
more
appropriate
to
frame
it
as,
like
consideration
of
you
know,
increase
in
annual
budget
investment
of
arpa
funds
and
the
the
real
estate.
Because
again,
some
of
this
is
just
one
scenario.
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If
we
end
up
choosing
to
do
a
bond
referendum
like
some
of
these
numbers
would
be
different
right.
So
I
think
I
think
maybe
we
should
just
soften
some
of
the
language
a
bit,
so
we're
kind
of
illustrating
the
tools
in
the
toolbox,
but
perhaps
depending
on
when
this
goes
back
to
the
commission
for
a
formal
vote.
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Obviously,
there's
due
diligence
being
done
on
that
right
now
and
then
the
fourth
one
is,
you
know
the
endorsement
of
you
know:
do
we
want
us
how
to
how
strongly
do
we
want
to
embrace
the
low-income
housing
tax
credit
program
to
help
as
a
key
strategy
to
help
meet
the
big
goals
around
the
affordable
rental
units?
So
all
right,
I
think
that's,
I
think
that's
the
last
slide
is
that
right,
sybil!
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Okay,
thank
you
all
right,
so
just
wanted
to
run
through
that
again.
This
is
the
more
abbreviated
version
that
will
be
before
the
commission
today,
again,
not
the
more
detailed
version
that
we
went
through
at
our
last
meeting,
so
just
wanted
to
see
if
there's
any
questions
or
further
discussion
from
the
committee
before
we
talk
to
our
colleagues
this
afternoon,.
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I
guess
brownie
one
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
you
know.
Maybe
we
wait
to
see
if
there's
any
more
comments
or
questions
about
you
know
the
content
of
this
presentation
and
what
we,
what
we
tell
our
colleagues,
but
I
guess
one
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
to
see
if
we
wanted
as
a
as
a
committee
to
memorialize,
is
that
it
kind
of
enhanced
stretch
goal
for
rentals.
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Sure
sure
all
right,
good
question,
so
I
you
know,
I
I
think
that's,
I
think,
that's
a
I'm
not
basically
kind
of
thinking
along
the
same
lines.
The
I
think
I
think
keeping
the
1500
number
in
there
is
good
right
so
that
that
is
a
clear
goal,
and
if
we
meet
that
goal
then
we
can,
you
know,
declare
victory
and
feel
like
we
have
accomplished
our
goal,
but
I
think
having
having
a
stretch
goal
out
there
too.
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So
I
I
like
the
idea
of
kind
of
I
like
kind
of
the
idea
of
the
range
you
know
that
that
feels
that
feels
like
a
way
to
set
something
that
we're
really
serious
about
achieving,
but
also
keeps
us
kind
of
hustling
and
pushing
and
doing
all
that
we
can
along
the
way.
So
I
I
like
that
and
one
in
a
way-
maybe
my
only
question
I
know
I'm
the
person
who'd
like
to
see
that
number
out
there,
like
the
1887..
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A
Maybe
if
we
wanted
to
round
it,
because,
obviously
that's
just
based
on
you
know
like
a
very
high
level
kind
of
financial
scenario,
planning
kind
of
process
using
a
bunch
of
different
numbers,
some
of
which
will
probably
end
up
being
higher
and
others
lower
than
what's
in
that
one
scenario,
so
you
know
if
we
wanted
to
say
1850
or
something
like
that,
just
so
it's
it
doesn't
seem
like
such
an
off
off.
You
know.
Doesn't
we
don't
just
spend
time
talking
about
where
that
number
came
from
I'd?
I
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
thinking
also
about
other
county
owned
property,
we
keep.
It
seems
like
zeroing
in
on
these
specific
four,
and
I
know
we're
already
making
some
movement
with
some
decisions
and
due
diligence
on
ferry
road,
so
just
making
sure
that
we're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna,
look
at
county-owned
properties
that
we're
gonna
look
beyond
cox,
woodfin
and
valley,
as
well
as
part
of
this
work.
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Yeah
yeah,
I
agree,
I
agree.
Amanda
I
mean
I've,
been
I've
been
thinking
along
the
same
lines
the
so
if
we
wanted
to
include
some
language
around
just
encourage
you
know,
maybe
if
we
want
to
have
language
sort
of
saying
encouraging,
you
know
consideration
of
other
potential
public
owned
lands
for
the
future.
I
mean.
I
know
that
we
only
have
the
bandwidth
to
look
at
so
much
at
any
one
time.
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But
I
would
certainly
support
that.
You
know
we
might
we
might
acquire
property.
You
know
other
properties
in
the
future.
That
might
make
sense
to
look
at
too.
So
I'm
I'm
definitely
supportive
of
encouraging
that
consideration,
because
the
county
does
a
lot
of
pro
a
lot
of
other
properties
too,
which
maybe
weren't
required
for
this
purpose.
But
you
know
once
we
had
a
chance
to
really
look
through
them
all.
There
could
be
other
other
interesting
opportunities
too.
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A
A
Know
real
estate
professionals
they
work
with,
go
out
and
look
for
properties
with
like
these
really
specific
goals
in
mind.
You
know
if
you
can
find
properties
that
help
us
really
advance
these
goals.
Then
I
feel
like
we
might
be
much
more
strategic
about
how
we
could
pick
up
some
additional
properties
than
where
we
might
have
been.
You
know,
six
or
nine
months
ago,
when
we
didn't
have
any
goals
like
we
are
going
to
have
going
forward,
so
so.
A
A
Yeah
and
it
could
help
that
goal
of
having
properties.
You
know
in
different
parts
of
the
county,
because
it
is
a
county-wide
need
and
so
and
who
knows?
Maybe
we
go
through
a
process
and
we
don't
find
a
lot.
But
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
downside
and
at
least
you
know
seeing
what
the
planning
department
or
whoever
they
would
want
to
partner
with
like
see
what
properties
might
emerge
and
have
to
have.
Our
group
have
a
chance
to
deliberate
on
it.
I
A
D
A
Why
don't
you
make
it
as
an
amended
motion?
Okay,
when
we,
when
we,
because
we're
going
to
update
this
slide
for
when
it
actually
goes
to
the
commission
for
like
an
actual
vote
in
the
future?
But
if
you
make
it
as
a
motion,
then
we'll
make
sure
that
language
is
then
incorporated
into
this
slide
as
it's
updated
for
for
future
presentations.
A
E
A
All
right,
I
also
wrote
I
all
right
good
stuff
anything
else
we
ought
to
discuss
before
the
meeting
this
afternoon.
My
plan
was
just
to
kind
of
walk
through
the
slides
and
then
we'll
just
kind
of
open
up
for
discussion.
Obviously
I
encourage
y'all
to
please
add
anything
that
feels
like
hasn't
been
captured
or
just
any
other
thoughts
on
it
and
then
we'll
just
see
what
questions
our
colleagues
have
for
today
and
maybe
they'll
have
a
lot
or
maybe
they
won't
have
any.
B
G
G
G
Yes
great?
Thank
you
chairman
newman,
commissioner
edwards
commissioner
sloane
good
afternoon.
At
this
committee's
meeting
on
january,
4th
y'all
received
a
briefing
from
buncombe
county
and
the
city
of
asheville
on
our
coordinated
efforts
to
address
homelessness
in
buncombe,
county
and
the
city
of
asheville.
G
We
looked
at
buncombe
county
are
in
looking
at
the
appointed
time
counts
from
2020..
We
looked
at
orange,
durham,
wake
and
mecklenburg
counties.
These
numbers
do
tend
to
trend
with
the
size
of
the
population,
so
there's
a
definite
correlation
here.
There's
not
really
much
deviation
from
what
size
of
the
population
those
counties
are
with
their
point
in
time.
Count
numbers.
G
So
one
of
the
topics
that
we
looked
at
was
considering
staffing
and
funding
at
these
at
the
different
county
levels.
You
received
information
last
week
talking
about
buncombe
county.
Our
staffing
is
really
through
the
department
of
health
and
human
services.
We
don't
really
have
a
dedicated
position
for
addressing
homelessness.
Here
we
provide
about
572
thousand
dollars
to
city
staff,
for
the
homeless,
initiative
advisory
committee
code,
purple
homeward
bound
outreach
and
case
management,
so
just
to
consider
a
little
bit.
What
other
counties
are
doing.
Orange
county's
staffing
they've
got
about
15.
G
They
have
housing
access,
coordinators,
folks
working
on
coordinated
entry
within
the
county,
as
well
as
a
street
outreach
team
consisting
of
a
clinician
and
peer
support,
navigators,
they're,
also
working
with
homeless
prevention
and
rapid
rehousing
within
the
county
as
well,
and
they
provide
about
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
toward
that
800
of
those
come
from
coc
funds,
the
county
administers
and
another
hundred
come
from.
The
emergency
solutions.
Grant
durham
is
kind
of
a
unique
situation.
They
partner
very
strongly
with
the
city
of
durham.
G
The
city
of
durham
really
takes
up
the
lion's
share
of
resources
in
in
the
county
of
durham,
because
the
city
of
durham
is
so
large,
but
their
department
of
social
services.
They
have
two
full-time
employees.
One
is
a
supervisor,
but
that
supervisor
has
some
additional
roles:
they're
not
dedicated
to
working
on
homelessness,
but
they
have
two
social
workers
who
complete
applications
for
a
coordinated
entry
under
the
contract
from
the
coc,
but
that
is
funded
by
the
county
and
they
provide
150k
for
street
outreach.
G
That's
working
with
folks
directly
on
the
on
the
street:
wake
county's
housing
division.
This
was
the
biggest
one
that
we
looked
at.
They
have
46
full-time
employees
and
20
to
30
of
them
work
directly
with
the
men's
shelter.
The
men's
shelter
in
wake
county
is
owned
and
operated
by
the
wake
county
itself,
but
all
the
other
homeless
shelters
in
the
county
are
independently
owned,
but
the
county
does
provide
a
lot
of
support
for
them.
Wake
county
also
has
a
street
outreach
team.
G
They
have
a
coordinated
entry
team
within
the
county
and
they
put
about
5.7
million
dollars
directly
toward
homelessness
services,
to
fund
this
and
staff
the
men's
shelter
and
provide
funds
to
all
those
other
county
shelters
within
wake
mecklenburg
county
charlotte.
They
have
the
homeless
services
department
with
31
full-time
employees.
They
fund
that
with
three
million
dollars
from
hud
and
6.2
million
directly
out
of
mecklenburg
county
funds.
G
So
we
looked
at
how
they're
partnering
with
other
municipalities
as
well
as
partner
organizations
for
the
leading
of
their
continuum
of
care.
Buncombe
county.
Our
lead
organization
is
the
city
of
asheville.
Our
the
county
appoints
members
to
the
joint
hiac,
the
homeless
initiative
advisory
committee,
and
we
assist
with
funding
staff
to
that
committee
and
we
oversee
some
county
funded
contracts,
but
we
really
let
the
city
kind
of
take
the
lead
on
homelessness
response
here.
Orange
county
has
the
orange
county
partnership
to
end
homelessness,
and
that
is
housed
within
the
county's
community
development
division
itself.
G
They
have
an
mou
with
four
municipalities
within
the
county
who
all
provide
funding,
but
the
county
pays.
40
percent
of
the
other
municipalities
contribute
the
remaining
60.,
as
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago
in
durham
city
of
durham,
is
the
the
lead
organization
for
the
continuum
of
care
efforts.
The
county
provides
funds
and
to
help
for
coordinated
entry
under
that
coc
contract
in
wake
wake.
A
G
Really
unique
way
of
coordinating
their
continuum
of
care,
they
have
the
raleigh
wake
partnership
to
end
homelessness
and
the
county's
role
is
they
participate
in
the
coc,
but
there
are
over
30
public,
private
and
non-profit
organizations
that
are
a
part
of
the
coc,
and
that
includes
the
city
of
raleigh,
town
of
kerry
alliance,
health
and
the
salvation
army.
So
it's
it's
a
unique
way
that
they've
found
to
pool
resources.
They
saw
that
wake
had
one
of
the
largest
point
in
time.
G
G
The
next
thing
that
we'll
talk
about
is
working
with
street
outreach
and
low
barrier
shelters.
We
know
that
bunking
county,
we
fund
our
pac
library
outreach
and
a
lot
of
other
efforts
through
homeward-bound.
We
have
several
shelters
available,
but
they're
not
funded
by
the
county.
Specifically,
they
have
other
funding
sources
in
orange
county.
They
have
a
four-person
in-house
outreach
team.
Like
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago,
that's
one
clinician
and
one
pierce
and
three
excuse
me:
three
peer
support
navigators.
G
They
have
one
low
barrier,
shelter,
that's
run
by
the
interfaith
council,
that's
available
in
accounting
and
that
shelter
receives
funding
from
hud
independently
in
durham,
again
unique,
consolidated
services
structure
with
the
city.
They
don't
actually
have
a
low
barrier
shelter,
but
there
are
three
homeless
shelters
in
the
county
aside
from
low
barrier
ones
in.
B
G
G
They
have
partner
organizations
that
provide
outreach
and
the
closest
option
for
a
low
barrier.
Shelter
is
run
by
a
partner
organization
called
roof
above,
and
they
have
a
two
300
and
500
bed
capacity,
shelters
and
the
last
part
that
the
last
responsibility
that
we'll
talk
about
are
the
white
flag
code
purple,
depending
on
which,
which
county
you're
talking
to
they
call
it
different
things.
We
call
it
code
purple,
most
folks,
other
counties
call
it
white
flag
in
baucom
county.
G
We
activate
this
on
nights
when
temperature
is
activated
when
temperature
is
expected
to
be
less
than
33
degrees
and
the
county
and
city
jointly
fund
two
participating
shelters,
but
there
are
many
other
providers
of
that
that
help
to
address
code
purple
nights
in
orange
county
their
their
coat
their
white
flag,
shelter
is
open
continuously
november
through
april
april,
without
regard
to
temperature
and
that's
operated
by
their
interfaith
county
council
community
house
in
durham.
It's
also
open
continuously
january
through
march,
without
regard
to
temperature,
and
it's
first
come
first
served.
G
They
also
provide
hotels
for
families
during
wet
flag
nights
15
to
20
rooms,
if
that's
needed,
that's
all
run
by
the
continuum
of
care
with
the
city
of
durham
services
funded
through
the
city
of
durham,
in
wake,
it's
open
on
nights
when
temperatures
are
expected
to
be
below
35
degrees
and
that
response
is
led
by
separate
partner
entities
like
st
john's
metropolitan
community
church
and
the
salvation
army
in
mecklenburg.
It's
open
on
nights,
as
determined
by
their
emergency
management
department
and
shelter
task
force.
G
So
key
takeaways
from
looking
at
these
other
comparison,
counties,
county,
organizational
structure,
funding
and
staffing,
it
varies
they've.
A
lot
of
different.
These
different
counties
have
found
different
ways
to
approach
this
to
meet
their
needs
and
abilities,
but
all
comparison,
counties
provide
and
fund
homeless
response
within
the
county.
G
Coordinated
entry
is
provided
by
each
comparison
county
and
the
continuum
of
care
leads
vary
as
well.
So
we
look
when
we
looked
at
the
continuum
of
care.
A
second
ago
we
mentioned
the
continuum
of
care,
is
sometimes
housed
within
the
county,
sometimes
led
by
the
city,
or
they
have
their
own
partner
organization
created
with
30
over
over
30
other
other
organizations
participating
like
in
wake
county.
G
G
D
G
G
The
data
is
collected
by
the
continuum
of
care
in
that
county
or
which
you
know
wherever
the
the
point
in
time
count
is
occurring,
and
then
those
those
numbers
are
usually
submitted
to
hud
by
april,
and
it
takes
a
couple
of
months
for
them
to
compile
the
data
into
a
report.
So
I
think
it
takes
a
while
for
them
to
scrub
it
compile
it
and
it
takes
until
june
for
us
to
to
summarize
it.
We
already
have
our
numbers
for
2021.
G
A
G
Once
it's
in
hmis,
it
has
to
be
verified
that
you
don't
have
duplicates
so
that
folks
were
interviewed
twice.
Maybe
you
can
have
a
lot
of
outreach.
Sometimes,
where
you
have
overlap,
you
might
interview
the
same
person
twice
and
you
don't
want
them
to
count
twice
so
they'll
verify
that
by
their
name
it
just
it
takes
time.
I
wish
it
was
faster,
but
when
you
have
all
these
different
moving
parts
to
get
the
information
up
to
hud
and
then
for
them
to
compile
it
and
report
back
to
us,
it
does
take
until
june.
G
A
I
haven't,
I
haven't
like
I'm
just
kind
of
doing
the
math
in
my
head,
but
it
does
seem
like
we
have
a
higher
like
per
capita
count
than
most
of
these.
Other
counties
right,
like
durham
county,
is
a
bigger
county
than
buncombe
county
population
wise
right.
But
our
number
is,
you
know
quite
a
bit
higher
than
durham
and
wake
county
is
like
four
times
the
population
of
buncombe
county,
but
their
number
is
less
than
twice
our
number.
So.
A
G
I
And
we
also
don't
have
a
continuum
of
housing
that
maybe
the
other
counties
do
have
that
can
move
them
into
various
types
of
housing,
whether
it
be
a
shelter
to
transitional
housing
that
we
know
that
even
apartments
are
at
a
premium
here.
So
I'm
wondering
if
that
plays
into
that
at
all
and
also
looking
comparatively
to
wake
at
46
fte
working
on
this
issue
too,
that
they
they
do,
seem
to
have
more
staff
more
boots
on
the
ground,
doing
the
work
and
is
that
impacting
their
numbers
compared
to
the
other
counties
as
well.
G
G
E
And
commissioners,
I'd
just
like
to
add
we're,
you
know
every
county
is
different
situated
differently
and
I
think
we're
a
bit
more
like
a
regional
hub
for
this
area,
where
some
of
the
other
accountings
you
know,
they're
clustered
together,
so
we're
kind
of
the
place
where
folks
come
for
services.
The
other
other
item
I
want
to
point
out
in
this
data
is
the
veterans
population.
D
Yeah,
the
triangle
probably
shares
services
to
a
certain
degree
yeah.
I
guess
I'd
love
to
see
some
trend,
analysis
and-
and
I
guess
see
if
the
data
suggests
a
correlation
between
the
you
know-
these
counts
and
the
quantity
of
employees
and
the
quantity
of
dollars
that
these
various
counties
invest
in
this
issue
and
see,
if
there's
a
hopefully
a
correlation
and
a
trend
and
a
trend
there.
That
suggests
some
some
solutions.
C
You
know
at
what
are
the
sub
population
pieces
of
information
right
so,
while
bunking
county
has
547
individuals
in
the
point
in
time
count
what
percent
were
unsheltered
versus
an
emergency
sheltering
versus
in
transitional
sheltering
and
in
those
terms,
the
bunking
county
fares
well
in
terms
of
the
percent
of
population
which
is
unsheltered
versus
some
of
these
other
counties
with
varying,
you
know
population.
So
some
of
that
I
think,
will
be
important
to
analyze
too,
and
it
also
may
indicate
why
you're
seeing
certain
responses
right.
C
So
in
wake
county,
their
percent
of
population
which
is
unsheltered,
is
high
and
their
total
population
count
is
high.
So
their
response
in
investing
and
sheltering
has
also
been
high.
So
looking
at
those
trends
over
time
may
also
help
explain
some
of
their
commitment
levels
and
what
their
focus
has
been.
D
A
A
A
A
I
just
kind
of
wonder
if
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
understand,
because
to
some
extent
you
know
where
nonprofits
can
take
on
certain
roles.
It
means
maybe
the
government
doesn't
have
to
right.
My
sense
is
that
maybe
in
some
of
these
other
communities,
the
local
government
units
are
directly
performing
some
key
services
that
it
doesn't
mean
they're
not
happening
here,
but
maybe
they're
happening
through
some
of
the
non-profit
sector
programming
and
things
like
that.
A
But
I
know
again,
I
know
like
I'm,
not
asking
staff
to
go
out
there
and
track
down
like
staffing
levels
at
every
non-profit
around
the
state,
but
I
guess
just
kind
of
airing
as
more
of
a
question.
I
guess
and
sort
of
thinking
about
everybody
that
kind
of
pulls
together
in
the
space
and
how
that
works.
G
Here,
certainly-
and
thank
you
for
that-
I
I
think
one
of
the
the
best
examples
was
what
wake
county
does
with
their
partnership
in
homelessness,
and
they,
like
you
mentioned,
they've,
got
a
lot
of
really
strong
community
partners
in
the
non-profit
and
charitable
community.
So
they,
those
charities
and
nonprofits,
are
part
of
their
continuum
of
care.
G
So
that's
something
that
their
coc
has
done
to
bring
all
that
energy
together
in
one
place,
in
partnership
with
the
county
and
the
other
municipalities
in
wake
county,
to
really
pool
their
resources
and
have
one
single,
you
know,
lead
organization
being
the
coc
taking
charge
of
it.
So
I
think
that's
something.
C
C
C
H
H
A
Greg,
if
you
get
through
to
us,
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you,
although
I
will
say
greg,
is
such
an
articulate
and
consistent
and
on
message
person.
I'm
confident
part
of
what
he
would
remind
us
is
that,
while
we
need
one
bedroom
and
efficiency
apartments,
don't
forget
about
the
two
bedrooms
and
three
bedrooms
for
families
with
kids.
So.
H
G
B
B
See
and-
and
I'm
just
really,
you
know
grateful
that
y'all
are
considering
that.
I
also
wanted
just
to
call
out
another
thing
that
I'd
put
put
in
the
public
comments
at
the
last
meeting,
and
I
don't
know
if
they
were
delivered,
because
it
was
in
the
chat
thing,
but
just
the
term
workforce
housing
as
an
as
an
advocate
and
as
a
as
both
kind
of
how
we
message
on
the
need
for
housing,
affordability.
B
You
know
we.
We
fully
believe
that
when
you're
talking
about
the
workforce
in
this
county,
it
you
know
it's
going
down
to
your.
You
know
very
affordable
units,
and
it's
going
above
what
you're
calling
workforce
housing
you
know
there
and
to.
I
think
that
it's
it's
just
it's
just
important
to
to
make
sure
that
the
messaging
that
you
put
on
this
is
reminding
folks
that
our
you
know
our
workforce
is
beyond
just
80
to
120.
B
All
part
of
the
work
I
mean,
there's
some
who
may
not
be,
but
in
large
part
we're
talking
about
folks
who
are
working,
can't
afford
to
live
here,
and
so
I
just
bring
that
up
and
then.
Finally,
I
wanted
to
say:
I'm
really
excited
to
see
that
inclusionary
zoning
made
it
on
kind
of
big,
bold
ideas
for
the
comp
plan.