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Regular Meeting of the Black Mountain Board of Alderman from August 10, 2020. To learn more, visit townofblackmountain.org
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A
It's
very
important
to
make
sure
that
you,
your
neighbors,
your
family
and
everybody
gets
registered
in
their
in
the
census
and
that
they
do
their
part
to
make
sure
that
everybody
all
their
neighbors
mention
it
to
them.
Mention
it
to
your
family,
because
it's
important
when
it
comes
to
getting
funding
from
the
federal
government
citizen
comments.
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C
Excuse
me
three
items:
five
a's
adoption
of
minutes.
These
are
the
minutes
of
july
13th
2020
regular
session
5b
is
a
call
for
a
public
hearing
for
blue
ridge
road
small
area
plan.
This
is
a
plan
we've
been
working
on
for
a
number
of
months.
It
has
been
through
the
planning
board.
It
has
been
vetted
through
the
planning
board,
as
well
as
we've
had
numerous
opportunities
for
public
input
on
this
plan,
and
it
is
like,
I
said
I
call
for
for
september's
regular
meeting
this.
C
The
small
area
plan
really
focuses
on
blue
ridge
road
in
that
area,
where
the
interchange
will
be
coming
in
from
I-40
5c
is
a
budget
amendment
to
recognize
insurance
proceeds.
We
got
some
damage
at
our
hempfield
water
tank
from
vandalism,
spray
spray,
painting
and
things
of
that
nature.
We
ended
up
fixing
that
and
we
need
to
do
a
budget
amendment
to
get
the
insurance
money
back
into
our
general
fund.
That
total
amount
is
dollars
and
eight
cents.
A
C
Comment
I'll
go
ahead
and
do
that
one
now,
if
you're
ready
yeah.
So
the
citizen
comment
I
have
is
from
marilyn
subanski.
This
is
in
reference
to
our
solid
waste
ordinance
amendment,
which
is
item
number
eight
a
and
she
states
in
the
solid
waste
ordinance
up
for
adoption.
I
think
the
definition
of
household
garbage
needs
work.
There
are.
There,
are
items
generally
considered
garbage
that
are
not
subject
to
putrification
such
as
aluminum,
foil,
non-recyclable
plastics,
which
may
be
containers
not
accepted
by
the
recycler
plastic
silverware
plastic
wrap,
for
example,
drink
glasses,
not
recyclable,
etc.
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C
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A
H
E
A
J
L
J
J
C
All
right
8a,
I
have
jamie
matthews
and
tasha
millwood
here
as
well
they're
in
the
other
room.
You
know
they
they
have
played
an
integral
part
in
in
crafting
this
ordinance.
Essentially,
what
we've
done
here
and
attorney
snead
has
looked
over
it.
What
we've
done
is
really
updating
it
for
our
use,
as
we
bring
this
in-house,
not
sure
if
you
recall
or
not,
but
as
we
went
through
our
discussions
about
bringing
solid
waste
in-house,
we
talked
about
a
number
of
different
things.
C
C
C
If
you
have
more
need
for
bulky
item
pickup,
we
have
a
charge
in
here
for
25
dollars
per
item
after
you
get
your
one
free
bulky
item
pickup
that
month
now,
when
I
say
your
free
bulky
item
pickup
that
could
be
a
washer,
a
dryer
and
both
together
or
couch
whatever
it
may
be,
you
get
that
you
get
that
one
time
pickup.
If
you
need
more
pickups
that
month,
it
will
be
25,
an
item,
that's
what
we
have
in
here,
our
brush
pickup.
C
We
we
consistently
stay
behind
right
now
with
waste
pro
on
our
on
our
brush.
Pickup
we've
had
multiple
meetings
with
waste
pro
to
try
and
iron.
This
out,
sometimes,
I
think
we've
made
headway.
Sometimes
I
feel
like
we
haven't,
never
had
a
discussion,
but
anyway,
currently
we
have
the
allowance
of
eight
cubic
yards
of
brush
pickup.
We
staff
wants
to
reduce
that
to
four
cubic
yards
of
brush
pickup
per
week,
and
that
is
a
reduction
of
half
of
what
we
currently
pick
up.
C
L
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C
J
E
J
That's
probably
something
we
really
need
to
put
a
little
work
on,
and
what
maggie
was
mentioning
too,
that
you
know
we
pick
up
for
charge,
but
we're
not
going
to
pick
up
everything
for
a
charge,
that's,
but
that
has
to
be
taken
care
of
by
the
you
know,
the
landscape
or
whatever,
I
think
most
of
the
times
they
do
take
care
of
it.
They
got
shredders
and
so
forth,
but
every
now
and
then
you
see-
that's
not
the
case.
C
C
J
E
C
C
M
A
Any
proof
I
know
that
for
a
fact,
I've
seen
that
happen
on
camp
ranch,
road
and
we've
got
several
usual
suspects
here
in
this
town,
who
have
rental
houses
outside
the
city
limits,
and
they
gather
it
up
because
that's
part
of
their
agreement,
rental
agreements
and
then
they
bring
it
to
a
place.
That's
in
the
city
limits
to
get
an
expected
town
to
come
pick
it
up
and
that's
that's
wrong.
J
I'm
wondering
about
the
merit
of
circling
back
around:
it's
not
going
to
happen
immediately
for
pickup
and
then
charging
them
for
it.
If
we
get
that
in
the
ordinance,
because
that's
fair
to
the
neighbors,
you
know
you
got
a
bunch
of
a
bunch
of
garbage
out
there.
It's
not
your
garbage.
It's
your
neighbor's
garbage
and
they've
they're
exceeding
they're.
Not
you
know,
abiding
by
the
ordinance
when
this
is
finalized.
L
J
Because
we
may
not
be
able
to
pick
it
up
immediately,
but
if
we
could
send
somebody
around,
you
know
in
a
smaller
truck
or
something.
But
but
we
have
to
charge
for
it.
And
let's
think
that
through
maybe
for
the
final
ordinance
and
get
that
in
there.
Because
if
we
just
don't
pick
it
up,
that's
going
to
create
more
problems
for
the
neighbors
yeah.
G
J
Well,
and
for,
and
actually
not
only
even
the
neighbors,
if
I
think
about
sometimes
that
happens
on
north
fork,
road,
I'm
sure,
you've
seen
it
maggie
and
tim
or
everybody
has,
but
you
on
the
busier
roads.
If
somebody,
you
know,
violates
the
rules
and
puts
a
bunch
of
stuff
out
there
it
you
know,
it's
creates
a
problem
for
everybody
driving
by
and
the
community
as
a
whole,
and
so
we
you
know
we
need
to.
I
think
we
need
to
implement
some
way
to
deal
with
it,
but
that
you
know
the
offender
is
just.
C
I
think
the
big
changes,
the
one
other
thing,
if
let's
say,
let's
take
an
apartment,
complex
and
I'm
gonna-
have
a
lot
of
those
in
town,
but
the
ones
we
do
have
that
have
dumpsters.
We
want
those,
maybe
the
landlord,
whoever
to
take
care
of
their
own.
I
guess
we
don't
feel
like
we're
not
paying
for
that
we're
not
paying
their
dumpster
service
there
that
pay
for
that
themselves
that
they
need
to
be
hauling
off
their
own
bulky
items.
C
J
J
C
Yeah
yeah,
I
know
we
talked
about
that
going
through
it.
You
know
this,
we
put
it
together
and
there
may
be
work
that
needs
to
be
done
as
we
go
through
it.
I
mean
you
know:
we've
never
done
trash
before
so
we're
doing.
We
put
together
our
budget
and
the
number
of
personnel
and
to
see
where
that
gets
us,
and
if
we
get
behind
and
we'll
have
to
just
come
back
and
address
it,
I
mean
I.
J
And
I
think
we
also
have
to
be
reminded-
and
I
think
this
is
correct-
isn't
it
that
that
waste
pro
was,
they
were
good,
they
were
changing
the
rules
too,
and
we
renewed
the
contract
with
them.
It
was
not.
It
wasn't
the
same
set
of
rules
as
far
as
pickup
and
everything
else.
They
were
getting
ready
to
go
to
the
one
big
can
weren't.
They.
C
J
With
that
too,
but
it
would
have
happened,
I
mean
they
did
it
in
the
county.
If
they
did
it,
county-wide
they'd
do
it
in
black
mountain,
and
so
everything
was,
the
paradigm
was
changing,
you
know,
and
and
we
we
do
need
to
remind
the
public
of
that
it
would
nev.
It
was
not
going
to
be
the
same
going
forward
period.
C
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D
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A
J
J
M
C
So
the
current
definition
is
any
waste
generated
at
a
household,
single-family
or
multi-family
resident,
subject
to
putrification
originating
within
a
residential
establishment.
I
think
she
was
just
referring
to
putrification,
where
such
things
don't
degrade
or
break
down
like
aluminum,
foil
and
plastic,
because
what
she
was
referring
to.
L
J
J
C
Well,
we
haven't
written.
The
way
we
have
it
written
now
is
that
this
fee
is
based
on
the
landfills
fee.
Of
course,
its
schedule
is
subject
to
change,
but
payments
can
be
made
at
the
public
works
office.
So
if
they
want
a
tv
picked
up,
they
would
just
come
down
to
public
work.
Public
works
pay
it.
What
we
would
probably
do
is
load
everything
up
on
a
truck
and
take
the
tvs
to
the
landfill.
J
C
J
J
C
C
N
M
L
C
J
C
J
I
C
Yeah
you
know,
and
then
it
depends
on
how
big
the
pile
is.
You
know
if
you're
gonna,
if
we're
gonna
limit
it
still,
if
you
limit
it
to
four
and
then
say
well,
if
you
do
eight,
then
we're
gonna
charge
you
x
amount
of
dollars.
That's
probably
gonna,
be
a
better
question
answered
by
jamie
and
tasha
than
me.
B
C
So
what
we're
discussing
jamie
is
the
potential
of
if
someone,
instead
of
just
limiting,
let's
say
we
limit
trash
to
six
bags
of
trash.
If
someone
wants
to
put
out
more
trash,
then
we're
talking
about
charging
them
more
money,
charging
them
a
fee
for
more
trash
or
charging
them
a
fee
for
more
brush.
Instead
of
four
cubic
yards.
G
Well,
I
think
the
whole
purpose
of
reducing
the
amounts
was
because
of
manpower
and
time.
So
you
know,
eight
cubic
yards
is
about
the
size
of
a
about
the
size
of
the
vehicle.
You
drive
right
now,
which
is
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
pick
up,
but
as
far
as
the
the
charge
or
the
fee
to
pick
up
extra.
That
would
just
have
to
be
something
we
would
have
to
research
to
see
if
other
towns
are
doing
it.
You
know
that's
sort
of
the
way
we
come
up
with.
G
Some
of
these
policies
is
through
other
towns.
We
took
some
from
waste
probe
and
just
put
it
together
what
we
thought
would
fit
us.
I
think
josh
hit
the
net
on
the
headwhile
ago.
There
will
be
some
bugs
we'll
have
to
work
out
through
this
year.
I'm
sure,
but
the
main
concern
to
me
now
is
just
the
limitations
on
some
of
this
stuff.
Where
it's
out
of
control,
you
know
the
six
bags,
we
even
thought
about
six
bags
or
two
cans.
G
But
when
you
get
out
here
and
see
15
16
bags,
it
almost
makes
you
wonder
if
it
ain't
coming
in
from
somewhere
else
and
just
like
the
landscaper,
you
know
you
don't
know
that
they
made
that
be
down
here
in
swan
and
oil,
doing
landscape
work
for
somebody
else
and
then
coming
up
here
and
doing
that
work
and
then
leaving
what
they've
done
in
swanninoa
on
that
site,
because
they
know
it's
free
pickup
here.
So
I
know
that
happens.
G
Sometimes
that's
been
because
when
somebody
calls
and
says
hey,
you
got,
we
got
x
amount
of
brush
and
I
go
up
there
and
it's
a
it's
a
pile
of
bamboo,
but
there's
no
bamboo
on
their
property
or
pine
or
you
know
it
just
don't
add
up,
but
but
as
far
as
the
charges
that
would
just
be
something
we
would.
We
would
have
to
look
into
and
see
if
anybody
else
is
doing
that
my
only
concern
would
just
be
going
back
around
because
of
the
time
consumption
of
it.
J
You
know
some
of
those
a
couple
of
changes
that
we
maryland's
change
and
one
or
two
others
we
made
there,
but
as
far
as
charging
additional,
maybe
we
could
come
up
with
some
wording
that
we
reserve
the
town
reserves
the
right
just
to
put
the
notice
out
there
res
and
come
up
with
some
but
reserves
the
right
to
charge
for
for
excess
violations
of
the
limits
that
we
placed
on
any
pickup
item,
or
something
like
that,
and
at
least
it
sends
a
warning
that
we
just
can't.
Let
that
happen.
L
L
Indicate
that
this
will
be
this
actually,
this
meeting
will
just
be
continued
for
final
vote
next
month,
noah
and
with
joshua.
The
bulk
of
what's
could
be
approved
and
letting
people
know
there
will
be
a
charge
and
that's
what
the
town's
working
on
or
you
can
adopt,
the
ordinance
as
is,
and
we
can
amend
it
next
month.
L
G
Thank
you.
Fine.
If
I
could
just
speak
one
more
time
like
some
of
these
bulk
item
stuff,
just
this
past
week
me
and
tasha
went
to
residence
and
looked,
and
you
know
you
could
pick
apart.
What
bulk
item
is
because
of
furniture
and
things
that
nature,
but
when
you
got
a
pile
of
picture
frames
and
I'm
not
joking,
I'm
not
making
this
up
as
long
as
this
table
and
that
high
and
they
just
throw
them
out
on
the
side
of
the
road.
G
It
would
take.
It'd
take
two
people
30
minutes
to
45
minutes
hard,
as
I
could
go
just
to
load
that
stuff
up
to
where.
If
you
got
that
you
know
if
they
got
that
much
extra
and
you
charge
25
item,
that's
going
to
hit
them
in
the
pocketbook
pretty
hard,
but
but
basically
you
got
a
thousand
stops
a
day.
You
don't
got
time
to
be
hung
up
for
an
hour
on
one
stop
I
mean
it
was
ridiculous.
I've
never
seen
as
many
picture
frames
in
my
life.
E
B
C
C
C
I
think
you
know
it's
riverwalk
greenway
part
of
that
is
going
to
be
fauna.
Florida
state
trail
part
of
it
may
be
the
hailbender
trail.
I
know
that's
got
some
traction
and
with
another
name
I
think
they
thought
there
might
be
some
confusion,
so
I
think
they
made
some
suggestions
of
potentially
naming
a
bridge
or
something
after
carlos
showers,
something
along
those
lines.
But
that's
that's
the
response
from
the
greenway
commission
when
it
was
taken
to
them.
A
L
A
A
I
K
K
I've
thought
about
it
a
lot
I've
thought
about
what
carlos
advocated
and
I
thought
a
lot
about.
Our
budget
meetings
and
carlos
was
always
an
advocate
for
recreation
and
for
public
employees,
and
no
one
would
argue
more
for
improvements
to
the
public
safety
building
than
carlos,
and
so
the
three
options
that
I.
K
The
legacy
of
governor
and
senator
vance
has
been
well
documented
at
this
point
and
the
thoughts
of
that
time
period
no
longer
reflect
the
thoughts
of
our
community
and
replacing
that
with
carlos
showers
would
be
a
a
lasting
imprint
on
this
town.
For
the
value
we
place
on
what
the
african-american
community
provides
here.
K
I
thought,
as
the
carlos
showers
center,
encompassing
both
our
recreation
department
and
also
housing
public
works,
combining
in
with
his
recreation
and
and
love
for
the
town,
employees
and
last.
I
thought,
because
he
was
such
an
advocate
for
the
fire
department
police
department,
renaming
the
public
safety
building
was
in
honor
of
carlos
showers.
A
Well,
I
don't,
I
can't
say
anything
negative
about
any
one
of
those
suggestions,
but
I
think
the
green
way
through
the
section
of
main
main
part
of
town
would
mean
more
to
him
and
I
can't
speak
for
him.
Neither
can
anybody
else
would
mean
more
to
him
than
anything
we
could
do
because
that's
going
to
be
a
lasting
legacy
and
that's
going
to
be
in
the
future.
A
I
think
you'd
be
greatly
honored,
and
I
know
this.
He
helped
us
save
money
on
just
one
boat.
For
example,
he
saved
this
town
for
145
000
and
we've
put
350
000
of
our
tax
money
into
greenways,
and
I
can't
say
on
one
hand
that's
where
the
money
came
from,
but
I
can
say
this
has
been
a
whole
lot
tougher
to
put
the
350
there
for
the
greenways
than
it
would
be
if
we'd
had
spend
that
450.
A
I
A
Address
the
addresses
the
checkbooks
everybody,
you
know
where
they
get
their
bills,
they
they
all
have
to
change
and
it's
a
a
burden
on
the
people
that
live
on
vance
avenue
and
yes,
I
know
I've
heard
from
one
of
them
that
be
willing
to
do
that.
I've
heard
from
others
say:
why
do
we
want
to
change?
Why?
Why
make
me
have
to
go
through
that?
A
I
C
M
C
Right
dancing,
our
update,
I'm
gonna
attempt
not
to
lose
you
in
this,
but
also
try
to
be
cognizant
of
time
and
not
go
into
lots
of
details
because
this
you
know
this
project
has
has
been
going
on
for
a
number
of
years,
much
longer
than
much
longer
than
I've
been
around.
But
you
know
back
in
2002.
It
was
a
priority
that
came
out
of
our
greenway
master
plan
that
was
developed.
C
C
M
C
But
from
from
my
records
going
back
to
around
2014,
the
town
spent
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
on
a
hydraulic
capacity
study
to
see
if
it
was
feasible
to
go
under
highway,
70
and
nc9
all
right,
we
determined
it
was
feasible.
D.O.T
said
too
bad
we're,
not
letting
you
do
it,
and
that
was
the
story
from
them
for
quite
some
time
now
they
did
allow
us
to
go
under
highway
70
after
some
back
and
forth,
and
I
don't
mean
a
phone
call
back
and
forth.
I
mean
months
of
conversations.
This
is
just
how
it
goes.
C
C
At
that
point
I
was
here
as
planning
director.
We
took
off
and
started
doing
some
preliminary
engineering
in
2015.
That's
when
we
first
allocated
start
allocating
our
match
money.
Eighty
thousand
dollars
from
our
general
fund
to
a
capital
project
fund,
riverwalk
capital
capital
project
fund.
Excuse
me
every
year
since
2015
we've
allocated
eighty
thousand
dollars
except
this
past
year,
due
to
covid,
we
only
did
fifty
thousand
dollars.
C
Currently
we
have
three
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
allocated
in
that
capital
project
fund
with
that
we
also
have-
and
I'm
skipping
a
little
bit
ahead,
but
since
we're
talking
about
that,
we
also
receive
some
money
from
bunking
county
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
go
for
riverwalk
greenway.
So
that
brings
us
to
750
000
of
our
total
1.2
million
match
money.
We
have
to
pay
20
of
the
total
cost.
Total
cost
is
about
6
million
dollars
for
this
greenway
project.
You
might
say
that's
a
lot
of
money
for
a
couple
miles
of
greenway.
C
But
the
thing
that
that's
important-
and
I
think
folks
may
not
think
about-
is
we're
going
under
two
major
state
highways
and
we're
going
under
a
railroad
and
the
engineering
and
design
and
construction
for
those
three
crossings
will
be
expensive.
Which
is
why
we're
at
that
six
main
six
million
dollar
mark.
C
2016,
we
really
got
into
the
design
starting
to
the
design
and
that
took
18
months
to
do
that
design
and
that's
back
and
forth
with
d.o.t
that's
back
and
forth
with
the
railroad
we
we
went
to
the
railroad
and
tried
to
see
if
there
was
another
option
instead
of
putting
our
own
tunnel
in
underneath
norfolk
southern
trying
to
use
the
existing
I'm
losing
that
term
right
now,
trestle,
that's
it
trying
to
go
into
the
existing
trestle.
They
would
have
none
of
it.
C
C
C
Move
up
to
2018,
we
expanded
the
scope
of
that
project
so
that
original
riverwalk
application
we
submitted
was
only
from
us
70
to
nc9
2018.
We
added
the
section
in
from
hampton
inn
to
veterans
park
or
to
in
the
oaks
there
at
vance
avenue.
As
you
can
imagine,
when
you're
adding
things
into
a
project
of
this
magnitude,
it
takes
time
to
add
that
in
to
get
approvals
from
d.o.t
to
get
approvals
from
all
the
folks
that
are
involved,
we
also
got
to
do
to
an
extent
in
environmental
impact.
C
Which
was
under
the
under
this
section,
we
get
something
called
a
categorical
exclusion.
I
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
those
details,
but
if
you
do
a
full-blown
eia
or
environmental
impact
assessment,
those
can
take
anywhere
from
a
year
to
two
years
to
three
years,
depending
on
what
you
find
and
what
you
impact
we
are
actually
now
under
the
categorical
exclusion.
So
that's
a
good
thing:
2018
the
mpo
approved
1.8
million
dollars
in
funding
2018..
C
I
mean
whenever
the
contractor.
Excuse
me,
whenever
the
engineer
submits
to
you
a
scope,
it
goes
back
and
forth
between
the
town
and
nc
ncdot
for
months,
and
they
have
to
agree
on
pricing.
If
the
engineer
is
charging
too
much
money,
ncdot
won't
pay
for
it.
They
will
make
them
reduce
that
fee
that
took
a
loan
that
took
six
months
to
go
back
and
forward
with
pricing
with
dft.
C
C
80
and
we're
only
paying
20.,
we
got
if
you
recall
a
few
months
ago,
maybe
longer
than
that.
Now
we
approve
the
alignment
on
from
hampton
inn
to
the
in
the
oaks
trail.
I
know
I
brought
that
before
you.
It
was
expensive
to
go
along
the
river.
We
had
a
property
owner
that
was
not
willing
to
negotiate,
didn't
want
us
to
have
an
easement
at
all
that
kind
of
put
that
stop
that
in
its
tracks.
C
C
I
think
it's
christian
friends
anyway,
we
did
some
string
bank
work
for
them
in
exchange
for
the
easement.
We
did
that
recently.
I
think
that
string
bank
work
just
got
finished
a
little
side.
Note
the
the
gentleman
that
was
doing
the
work
when
we
had
that
big
flooding
event.
His
track
hoe
was
in
the
middle
of
the
river
because
it
washed
off
the
bank.
C
We've
spoken
with
whatever
rents,
I've
had
numerous
conversations
with
billy
wells
about
that
he's
on
board,
he's
happy
to
give
us
an
easement.
We
jessica
and
I
met
with
the
folks
that
own
the
large
track
of
property
that
backs
up
in
behind
bilo.
They
seem
to
be
on
board.
We
showed
them.
The
maps
met
them
probably
two
weeks
ago
out
there
and
looked
at
them.
C
C
C
and
we
did
receive
notification
that
you're
all
aware
of
this.
I
guess
the
past
couple
of
months,
or
at
least
the
past
month
that
once
we
get
to
60
design
that
we
have
to
submit
at
30
percent,
60
and
90
to
dot
we're
currently
right
at
60,
we'll
submit
that
to
dot
and
then
we're
frozen
until
they
figure
out
their
budget
issues,
and
that's
that's
across
the
state
with
lots
of
projects.
So
hopefully
that
won't
be
a
long
roll
and
we'll
get
be
able
to
get
back
on
that
we
are
awaiting.
C
We
currently
have
4.8
million
programmed
into
the
state
transportation
improvement
plan.
We
are
waiting.
This
fall
to
have
the
last
1.2
million
dollars
programmed.
We
feel
very
confident
that's
going
to
happen.
I
think
the
mpo
board
votes
on
that
this
week,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
on
august
13th-
and
that
is
a
quick
and
quick
version
of
where
we
began
and
where
we
are.
A
C
O
It's
really
nice
to
see
all
of
you
after
such
a
long
time
in
the
flesh,
so
tonight
we're
talking
about
a
stream
buffer
ordinance
that
has
been
something
been
thinking
about
for
a
while
in
our
department
stream,
bumpers,
naturally
hold
banks
of
streams
and
rivers
and
create
riparian
zones
which
help
reduce
sedimentation
erosion
control
and,
to
some
extent,
low
glass
flooding
the
roots
from
the
trees
and
plants.
It
help
naturally
slow
the
water.
So
it
can
infiltrate
at
a
more
natural
speed.
O
So
this
ordinance
that
you
are
reviewing
was
drafted
by
the
environmental
protection
agency
and
has
been
widely
adopted
and
used
across
north
carolina.
I
do
want
to
say
it's
a
starting
point.
We
can
always
revisit
this
if
we
feel
like
it
doesn't
quite
achieve
what
we
want
it
to
do,
but
I
do
think
it's
a
good
starting
point
stream
buffers
that
are
all
that
are
already
excuse
me
stream,
buffers
that
are
already
required
for
projects
which
require
a
phase.
Two
stormwater
permit
only
capture
a
few
projects
per
year,
maybe
about
ten.
O
O
This
ordinance
does
not
impact
existing
development.
So
if
you
have
property
or
development
in
proximity
to
these
streams,
creeks
or
it's
fine,
there's
no,
no
buffers
created
there.
This
applies
only
to
new
development
and
it
creates
a
30,
30-foot
buffer
and
a
20-foot
transition
area,
and
these
streams
are
identified
on
the
usgs
maps.
It's
not
necessarily
every
stream
or
ditch
you
see
in
town.
O
O
O
People
are
certainly
allowed
to
remove
plants
and
trees
that
have
fallen
into
their
streams
and
as
long
as
other
uses
follow
the
land
use
code
they
can
also.
It
can
also
be
used
for
street
crossings,
driveways
culverts,
recreational
features,
intakes
utilities
and
bridges
and
other
facilities
and
buffers
can
also
be
used
for
recreation
activities
like
trails
like
our
lovely
greenway,
clearing
and
replanting
of
the
buffer
can
be
achieved
and
is
supported
when
the
outcome
has
greater
benefit
than
how
it
started.
O
If
you're,
making
an
improvement,
storm
water
controls
and
temporary
erosion
structures
are
also
allowed
in
the
buffer,
essentially
is
when
you're
done
putting
it
in
you
put
it
back.
The
way
you
found
it
put
the
dirt
back,
put
the
grass
back
streams
that
have
been
piped
and
presumably
are
have
been
piped.
According
to
the
blessing
of
the
army
corps
of
engineers
are
not
subject
to
this
ordinance.
O
O
I'd
like
to
propose
that
that
language
should
be
changed
to
that
no
herbicide
and
or
pesticides,
and
no
application
of
herbicides
or
pesticides
labeled
as
harmful
to
aquatic
life,
would
be
used
in
the
buffer
in
north
carolina.
The
label
on
pesticides
and
herbicides
control
the
application
of
that
product.
O
O
O
J
O
We
often
see
development
incidental
residential
projects
like
like
sheds
out
buildings
and
those
sorts
of
things.
Those
are
the
ones
we
most
typically
see
that
are
put
right
in
a
stream
area
and
a
lot
of
the
times.
It's
because
you
may
have
some
slope
and
it's
it
or
maybe
it's
the
natural
flat
spot,
don't
often
see
it
with
residential
structures
except
up
in
the
settings
occasionally
because
they
have
some
issues
with
their
set
packs
and
a
lot
of
streams.
But
also
I
just
want
to
remind
that
this.
C
O
Usgs
survey,
so
a
blue
line
stream
is
a
body
of
concentrated
flowing
water
in
a
natural,
low
or
natural
channel
on
the
land
surface
that
may
be
a
creek
stream
or
other
flowing
water
feature
perennial
or
ephemeral,
and
it's
indicated
on
that
usgs
logical
survey
and
it
is
not
a
man-made
water
force.
So
that's
not
included.
O
A
O
I
A
L
Wow
there
is
money,
that's
set
aside,
but
that's
not
going
to
be
immediate.
They've
got
a
lot
of
things
within
the
estate
to
wrap
up,
allocate
some
costs.
The
money
hasn't
all
been
spent,
so
it's
there,
but
hopefully
over
the
course.
The
next
month
or
two
they'll
work
their
way
through
that
and
we'll
get
some
funding
and
then
we
start
planning,
but
it
is
ours.
The
deed
is
recorded.
L
That's
moving
got
a
second
one,
one
that
probably
that
hasn't
moved
watson
property
months
ago.
This
board
authorized
me
to
move
forward
start
taking
the
steps
we
might
reach
and
we
condemn
it.
We
tear
it
down
to
follow
lean.
Then
the
wind
blew
it
down.
I
was
convenient
and
he
cleaned
up
rather
quickly
and
I
was
hoping
he
would
continue
the
process
and
and
although
it
did
clean
up,
we
still
got
part
of
the
building
standing
and
all
I
need
tonight
is.
L
Do
I
pick
up
where
I
left
off
at
that
point,
move
forward
toward
condemnation,
get
the
notices
that
need
to
go
out
and
then
be
next
month.
I'll
come
back
to
you
to
authorize
the
step
and
demolish,
usually
for
me
to
pick
up
where
we
left
off
and
go
through
that
proceed
through
that
process.
Do
you
need
that?
L
L
J
You
know
just
just
to
be
reminded
the
folks
at
highland
farms
who
it
impacts,
I
mean
they
just
drive
in
and
out
of
their
buy.
More
often,
it's
been
high
on
the
agenda
with
that
community
for
a
long
time,
and
so
I
don't
and
I
don't
disagree
with
them-
it's
been
a
difficult
and
it's
it's
something
that
the
town
board
has
to
deal
with
from
time
to
time,
but
I
think
we
have
to
move
forward
with.
C
C
We
did
put
in
a
grant
for
two
or
excuse
me,
three
double
trucks
and
a
couple
of
fire
trucks.
We
ended
up
getting
funded
for
two
dump
truck
replacements,
which
is
really
good.
We've
got
around
three
dump
trucks
that
need
to
be
replaced,
but
two
of
them
are
going
to
be
replaced
and
they're
very
dated
early
2000
models,
probably
weren't
the
correct
models.
C
C
The
19th
hole
it
seems
to
be
going
good.
I
see
care
usually
every
day.
Go
there
usually
every
morning
top
of
the
golf
golf
guys
and
just
checking
in
with
karen
to
see
how
it's
going
with
painting
and
doing
some
things
and
sprucing
it
up.
So
I
think
that's
gone.
It's
gonna
look
much
different
than
the
last
time.
C
Not
so
good
news
with
that
flooding,
we
had
some
issues
with
the
bridge
and
cartridge
on
the
golf
course.
We
do
have
a
temporary
bridge
in
place.
Now,
that's
not
permanent.
So
we've
had
some
folks
look
at
that
bridge
and
more
than
likely
we're
bringing
you
a
bunch
of
them
at
some
point,
probably
next
month,
but
probably.
B
C
C
So
at
this
point
we
we
need
some
direction.
I
guess
from
the
mayor
and
I've
talked
about
it,
but
I
want
to
kind
of
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
that.
We
are,
you
know
we
have
a
charge,
late
fees,
we
have
the
target
penalties.
Currently
we
have
about
about
460
accounts
that
are
past
due
and
that's
about
55
worth
of
water
fees
that
we
haven't
collected,
and
that
was
at
the
end
of
july.
C
D
C
A
A
M
N
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
N
E
E
O
E
O
L
M
F
K
K
L
L
L
B
J
I
M
I
Collaborated
with
him
for
several
years,
mr
patilla
is
community
and
civic
minded.
He
has
a
willingness
to
build
lasting
relationships
between
the
community
and
the
board.
I
can't
say
about
good
things
about
mr
pertiller.
He
strives
for
community
connection
and
transparency
and
I
feel
like
he
would
be
an
asset
to
the
board.