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From YouTube: Black Mountain Aldermen Meeting - 04/09/2012
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Regular meeting of the Town of Black Mountain Board of Aldermen meeting held Monday, April 9, 2012.
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It
is
I'd
like
to
thank
the
town,
the
community,
for
participation
and
the
great
generosity
that
has
made
this
possible
because
of
your
gifts
and
so
on,
no
valley,
christian
ministry.
The
shelter
now
has
a
shower
that
has
been
very
beneficial
bill.
Hamby
and
brian
watson
have
been
very
instrumental
in
getting
that
done.
We
also
have
laundry
facilities
so
that
they
can
get
clean
clothes
and
those
kind
of
things.
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A
You
we
do
have
some
modifications
of
the
agenda
on
under
seven
of
the
new
business
request
to
form
a
board
appointed.
It
should
be
a
board-appointed
debt
reduction
committee
on
under
b.
Under
the
motion.
Added
to
that
motion
is
to
approve
the
attached
schematic
design
plans
dated
march
15
2012
as
prepared
by
fisher
architects.
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Everyone
will
gather
at
the
old
town
hall
side
on
102
montreal
road
pick
up
orange
bags,
recycle
bags,
safety,
vests
and
gloves,
or
you
can
pick
up
supplies
at
the
town
hall
here
at
116
midland
avenue
and
do
some
of
your
own
street
spring
cleaning
and
just
leave
the
fields
orange
bags
along
the
roadside
for
the
pickup.
We
certainly
thank
those
that
are
involved
and
will
be
involved.
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I'm
ruth
branson
7
laurel
avenue.
First,
I
was
happy
to
see
all
the
positives
about
the
golf
course
and
the
local
newspaper
and
the
positive
letter
from
a
member
of
the
women's
golf
association.
That's
a
very
pleasant
change
from
the
negative
remarks
we've
been
hearing,
but
I'm
very
happy
to
read
that
in
the
paper.
Thank
you
mark
for
those
for
the
benefit
of
those
of
you
here
tonight
and
for
those
of
you
in
our
tv
audience,
as
well
as
those
people
I
meet
in
the
grocery
store
or
at
the
post
office
or.
G
Those
who
have
come
to
my
shop
even
at
church
who
asked
me
about
our
former
town
manager,
marcio
o'neal.
I
bring
you
good
news,
all
of
you,
folks
that
she
has
now
been
hired
by
our
neighbor
to
the
west,
the
town
of
waynesville
population,
of
approximately
12
000
people
compared
to
black
mountains,
74
7,
500
people.
G
G
Marcy
will,
of
course,
rise
to
this
challenge
because
she
is,
as
wanesville
has
already
described
her,
and
I
quote
a
very
smart
person
granted.
Not
all
of
our
town
managers
have
come
to
us
as
fully
credentialed
as
marcy,
who
was
first
order,
a
former
moorhead
scholar
to
say
nothing
of
her
professional
qualifications
for
town
manager.
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Waynesville
has
a
governing
board
with
five
members,
which
numbers
include
the
mayor.
Who
will
who
votes
with
the
board?
Their
mayor
is
a
great
cheerleader
for
his
town.
I'm
sure
many
of
you
read-
or
you
heard
about
his
outgoing
personality,
how
he
often
goes
downtown
shaking
hands
and
greeting
the
towns,
people
and
greeting
the
tourists
and
making
them
feel
proud
of
their
town.
G
I'm
sure
marcie
is
feeling
very,
very
good
about
her
relationship
with
her
with
her
new
mayor,
because
it's
it's
very
important
to
have
a
good
and
a
solid,
a
working
relationship
with
your
mayor,
the
former
time
manager
has
just
retired
after
20
years
with
them.
I
understand
their
chamber
is
already
planning
a
big
welcoming
party
for
marcy,
I
think,
probably
mesa
some
of
you
might
want
to
attend
again.
G
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Initial
construction
estimates,
along
with
an
ongoing
site
improvement
fund
and
fundraising
costs,
place
the
estimated
amount
necessary
to
complete
the
project
at
one
million
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
date,
just
over
nineteen
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
has
been
received
in
cash
and
checks.
Ongoing
site
improvements
after
the
property
is
developed
will
be
covered
by
an
endowment
fund
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
which
currently
has
a
restricted
trust
of
two
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
dollars
set
aside
for
that
purpose.
H
Development
of
the
town
square
will
begin
when
sufficient
funds
are
in
place
to
complete
what
has
been
started.
The
work
being
done
on
the
site
at
this
time
is
progressing
well.
These
safety
improvements
were
approved
by
this
board
in
january
and
are
part
of
the
recommendations
outlined
in
the
intersection
realignment
study
adopted
by
the
board
on
october
13
2011..
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As
part
of
that
study,
the
consultants
quote
strongly
recommend
that
no
direct,
vehicular
access
to
the
town
square
site
be
permitted
from
u.s,
70
or
nc9.
All
access
should
be
via
honeycutt
street,
for
public
safety,
traffic
or
west
street
for
town
square
traffic.
Driveway
access
along
nc,
9
or
u.s
70
introduces
conflicts
that
increase
crash
potential
and
interferes
with
traffic
flow.
End
quote
the
work
being
done
now:
will
block
existing
driveways
on
the
west
end
of
the
property
that
open
to
state
street
and
montreal
road.
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Another
part
of
the
work
being
done
is
an
initial
grading
of
the
west
end
of
the
property
and
seating
that
area
with
grass.
We
anticipate
that
by
summer,
residents
and
visitors
alike
will
be
able
to
enjoy
the
beautiful
views
of
downtown
and
the
mountains
beyond.
As
they
begin
to
use
this
new
open
space
in
the
center
of
town,
are
there
any
questions.
I
Yes,
I
have
one
tom:
can
you
explain
where
you
guys
are
going
to
be
as
far
as
the
town
square
steering
committee
is
going
to
be
picking
up
as
far
as
the
development
of
the
park
and
at
at
what
point
is
all
the
money
that
is
going
to
take
the
development
funds
that
that
explained
us?
Where
that
money's
going
to
come
from?
I
know
you,
you
read
it,
but
that's
not
coming
from
any
town
monies.
That
is
correct.
H
I
Can
you
explain
to
us
also
some
of
the
things
that
I
know
that
y'all
have
done
as
far
as
the
steering
committee
as
far
as
the
cost
on
what
we're
doing
up
there
now?
I
know
we
voted
in
january
to
do
it
and
and
voted
on
earlier
in
2011,
but
we
ran
into
a
little
problem
with
the
wall.
Can
you
explain
to
the
folks
who.
H
Is
paying
for
that?
The
town
square
steering
committee
funds
have
been
raised
already,
that
is
covering
the
cost
of
the
additional
equipment
that
had
to
be
rented
right
and
also
for
seating.
The
lawn,
because
there
is
no
grassy,
that
the
public
service
departments
have
so
we're
paying
for
all
of
that
as
well.
I
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
the
town
paid
to
to
get
started,
take
up
the
asphalt
and
I'd
like
to
thank
mr
watson
because
he's
received
a
lot
of
the
the
asphalt
and
has
not
charged
the
town.
Anything
for
that.
So
we're
gracious
for
that
benefit,
and
but
is
when
we
ran
into
the
problem.
As
far
as
having
something
to
break
the
big
the
the
wall,
we
need.
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Tom,
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
you
and
then
also
to
jesse,
for
the
we
had
a
frog
strangler
of
a
rainstorm
and
and
yet
the
fence
down
on
the
sidewalk
and
the
deep
hole
that
was
dug
in
anticipation
of
of
a
possible
rain
like
that
kept
any
dirt
from
getting
from
leaving
that
property
and
getting
onto
onto
the
road.
So
that
was
good
thinking
on
your
part.
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J
A
The
next
is
a
lake
tomahawk
park,
partf
project
closeout,
to
approve
close-out
reports
for
the
lake
tamaha
park
renovations.
The
project
had
total
expenditures
of
nine
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
dollars
and
fourteen
cents.
The
loan
was
received
for
five
hundred
thousand.
The
grant
was
received
for
four
hundred
ninety
five
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
dollars
and
fourteen
cents
project
was
completed
july.
11
2011.
A
Loudermilk
church
and
company
llps
has
performed
the
audited
towns
financial
statements
for
the
last
five
years.
The
local
government
commission
recommends
rotation
of
audit
firms
at
least
every
five
years.
Finance
director
has
reviewed
five
responses
to
the
rfp
for
auditing
services
and
recommends
google
kagan
cpa
group
out
of
asheville.
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I
He
will
select
folks
to
be
on
that
committee
and
come
back
to
the
board
for
their
approval
and
with
the
with
the
understanding
that
the
board
has
to
approve
anything
that
they
come
up
with
and
and
we
will
be
giving
them
areas
that
we
want
them
to
take.
A
look
at
and
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
do
that.
You've.
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Okay,
hi
everybody
thanks
for
having
me
my
name's
carrie
rutzer
turner,
I'm
a
senior
planner
at
land
of
sky,
regional
council
and
my
executive
director,
joe
mckinney,
sends
his
regards.
He
was
planning
to
be
here
but
had
to
be
in
raleigh
today.
So
you
just
got
me
I'm
here
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
grow
wnc,
which
is
a
regional
project
that
we're
managing
at
land
of
sky.
I
think
you
got
a
couple
of
handouts
about
it.
E
E
You
can
hit
it
a
couple
times,
there's
a
little
bit
of
animation
on
this
first
page.
Sorry,
so
I'll
just
give
you
a
quick
overview
about
the
project
and
then
tell
you
some
more
about
our
process,
so
this
project
is
funded
by
the
department
of
housing
and
urban
development,
and
it
is
a
process
through
which
we're
going
to
create
a
regional
vision
and
develop
strategies
for
economic
prosperity,
quality
growth
and
sustainable
development,
and
we're
going
to
do
that
through
a
process
of
pulling
together
a
lot
of
the
existing
planning.
E
E
Most
of
them
focused
on
specific
topics
like
transportation
plans
at
the
regional
level,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
really
pull
all
of
that
stuff
together
across
the
region
and
see
what
kind
of
common
goals
and
strategies
we
can
pull
out
of
that.
So
we're
going
to
pull
together
all
of
those
existing
plans
and
strategies,
as
well
as
some
pretty
extensive
public
involvement
to
develop
some
strategies
that
are
across
these
interrelated
issues.
E
The
project
itself
is
in
the
five
county
region
of
western
north
carolina,
so
that's
buncombe,
haywood,
henderson,
madison
and
transylvania
counties,
typically,
land
of
sky
just
works
with
the
four
counties
of
moncom,
henderson,
madison
and
transylvania.
But
in
this
case,
haywood
is
part
of
this
group
as
well,
because
a
lot
of
what
we're
looking
at
is
transportation,
related
and
haywood
county
is
really
part
of
our
transportation
planning
area
and
the
goal
is
to
work
together
on
creating
our
future.
E
E
It's
also
going
to
give
us
a
coordinated
vision
to
try
to
accomplish
some
things
that
we
can
do
more
effectively
together
than
we
can
separately.
I
think
we've
seen
a
few
examples
recently
of
big
economic
development
projects
like
new
breweries
come
into
the
region
where
it's
been
a
multi-partner
process.
That's
done
that
we're
also
going
to
try
to
coordinate
planning
across
these
subject
areas,
so
we
can
achieve
more
with
less.
I
think
you
all
know
the
limitations
in
terms
of
resources.
E
E
Participants
in
the
process
qualify
for
preferred
sustainability
status,
which
gives
applicants
extra
points
on
grant
applications
to
certain
federal
funding
programs,
and
we
have
a
list
of
those
available
on
our
website.
Basically,
it
just
kind
of
makes
you
more
competitive
when
you're
trying
to
get
some
of
those
grant
funds
inside.
Please.
B
E
So
some
of
the
products
that
will
come
out
of
this
process,
I
mentioned
that
we're
going
to
be
pulling
together
a
lot
of
plans
and
also
a
lot
of
data
and
we're
working
with
our
consultant
team,
as
well
as
the
national
environmental,
modeling
and
climate
analysis
center
at
unca
to
pull
together
data
and
look
at
what
that
says
about
our
future.
We
have
this
consortium
that
we're
bringing
together
that's
going
to
develop
a
lot
of
partnerships.
E
We
have
some
communication
tools
that
we're
developing.
We
are
conducting
an
impediments
to
fair
housing
analysis,
which
is
a
report
that
should
be
available
fairly
soon
and,
as
I
mentioned,
that
set
of
regional
and
local
strategies
next
slide.
Please
so
I'll!
Just
talk
briefly
about
our
project
team.
We
have
all
these
different
subject:
areas
that
we're
looking
at.
So
we
have
a
multi-disciplinary
team.
It's
led
by
the
consultant
team
of
land
design,
but
also
includes
other
consultants
that
have
specific
subject,
area,
expertise
and
they're
all
listed
up
there.
E
So
I
mentioned
that
this
process
is
conducted
by
a
consortium.
So
talk
just
a
little
bit
about
what
the
consortium
is.
I
said
previously,
it's
a
group
of
local
governments,
businesses
and
others
that
have
signed
on
to
participate
in
the
project
they're
all
listed
on
our
website,
and
they
essentially
have
you
know
formalized
their
participation
in
the
process
by
signing
a
consortium
agreement,
and
that
just
indicates
that
they're
going
to
participate
and
they're
going
to
participate
on
the
working
groups
and
help
to
form
the
steering
committee
next
slide.
E
Those
consortium
members
have
the
opportunity
to
help
to
shape
the
plan
to
gain
access
to
all
these
tools
and
models
and
data
that
we're
developing.
They
can
assist
us
with
helping
to
ensure
that
a
broad
spectrum
of
our
community
has
the
chance
to
participate
and
help
us
identify
those
funding
opportunities,
as
well
as
receiving
this
extra
sustainability.
E
E
There
are
representatives
from
the
five
counties,
the
city
of
asheville,
and
then
each
of
the
work
groups
has
a
representative
on
the
steering
committee
to
go
to
the
next
slide.
I'll
show
you
those
members
they're
from
across
the
region,
so
mark
burroughs
from
transylvania,
county
economic
development
commission
is
our
economic
development.
Representative
jon
snover
from
ab
tech
is
from
the
global
institute
of
sustainable
technologies.
E
Is
the
energy
representative
robert
ford,
from
the
hot
springs
health
program
is
in
our
health
work
group
cheryl
fortune
is
the
housing
director
of
wcca,
which
is
in
henderson
county
she's,
representing
the
housing
work
group.
Sue
anderson
from
the
city
of
hendersonville
is
representing
land
use
lang.
Hornthal
is
our
natural
resources
representative
he's
a
private
business
owner
here
in
buncombe,
county
angie
chandler,
the
executive
director
of
the
blue
ridge
national
heritage
area
is
our
cultural
resources
representative,
mike
searles
who's,
a
haywood
county
commissioner,
and
an
rpo
and
mpo
member?
E
Next
slide,
we
have
a
website
if
you
want
to
get
more
information
about
the
project
it's
listed
on
the
handouts
that
you
receive,
but
it's
grow.wnc.org
and
there's
several
ways
that
you
can
a
couple
other
ways.
You
can
stay
informed
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
we're
on
facebook
and
twitter,
if
you
all
are
into
social
media-
and
we
have
a
few
different
things
also
on
the
website
for
getting
involved,
and
that
includes
information
about
how
to
join
our
newsletter
mailing
list.
Our
consortium
agreement
is
available
there.
E
E
Our
working
title
has
been
reality
checks,
but
we
kind
of
feel
like
that's
a
little
bit
of
a
negative
connotation,
so
we're
working
on
a
new
name,
but
that's
going
to
happen
throughout
the
month
of
may,
and
so
we
invite
you
to
participate
in
that,
but
we
also
have
a
portable
version
of
that.
That's
going
to
be
on
the
website
that
can
be
conducted
with
small
groups,
that's
what
that
host
meeting
means
and
there's
a
way
to
share
your
own
story
individually
as
well
there.
E
E
E
It's
a
year
two
years,
it's
originally
was
a
it's
a
three-year
project,
but
we've
been
underway
for
about
a
year
with
getting
the
consultant
team
in
order
and
doing
some
of
that
stuff.
So
we
have
about
a
year
to
go
on
some
of
the
real
work
of
the
work
groups
and
some
of
the
more
public
stuff
that
we're
doing
and
then
the
final
year
we
think
is
going
to
be
more
on
moving
into
implementation
and
really
looking
for
those
opportunities.
J
Some
specifics
on
the
tran
transportation
analysis
part
just
a
question
I
have
are
you?
Are
you
looking
into
into
parts
of
mass
transportation?
And
if
so,
are
you
looking
into
different
types
of
busing
versus
what
we
have
today?
And
I
say
that
because
the
fact
that
we
have
these
buses
from
asheville
and
it
works
right,
semi
good
problem
is
so
much
of
the
money
goes
to
the
city
of
asheville
to
pay
them
of
which
we
never
can
find
out
where
the
money
goes
to
other
than
the
fact
that
it's
overhead
and
then.
J
E
They
are
trying
to
make
sure
that,
as
part
of
this
process,
they're
able
to
update
the
transportation
model,
that's
used
in
our
region,
which
helps
the
guide,
the
mpo
and
and
cdot
in
making
their
decisions
about
kind
of
where
funding
goes,
and
so
we're
hoping
that
this
process
is
a
way
that
we
can
make
sure
that
data
is
really
up
to
date
because
mo
transportation
models
don't
always
guide
us
very
well
in
making
transit
related
decisions.
So
we
hope
that
we
will
be
able
to
get
at
some
of
what
you're
talking
about,
which
is.
E
J
E
B
E
Energy
and
even
transportation,
because
of
course
you
know,
transportation
from
housing
to
work
is
a
big
part
of
our
energy
use
as
well.
So
we
definitely
are
trying
to
kind
of
look
at
those
connections
and
identify
you
know
some
strategies
that
cut
across
the
different
subject:
areas
to
try
to
make
a
difference
and
and
hud
our
funder
is
very
interested
in
ensuring
that
we
reach
underrepresented
populations
and
those
people
of
low
wealth
who
are
most
impacted
by
these
kinds
of
issues.
So
that's
a
big
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
as
well.
Good,
good.
J
B
A
J
J
J
So
I
wanted
you
all
to
be
aware
that,
but
I
also
wanted
to
ask
our
town
attorney.
Is
there?
Is
there?
Do
we
have
any
leeway
at
all
with
mcgill
and
the
fact
that
this
particular
storm
water
system
does
not
work,
I
mean,
can
we
go
back
to
them
to
say
you
know
you
designed
this?
We've
paid
them
122
thousand
dollars.
If
it's
not.
L
L
J
I'd
just
like
to
see
if
the
rest
of
the
board
would
would
be
willing
just
to
have
get
with
al
I'd,
be
more
happy
to
get
with
alva
to
to
a
question
mcgill
about
their
scope
of
work,
presented
that
that's.
There
was
going
to
be
a
function
from
this
hole
to
collect
water.
To
try
to
you,
know,
reduce
flood,
and
it
just
doesn't
work
it,
probably
as
it's
a
water
over
the
over
the
dam
and
it's
probably
not
going
to
work.
But
if.
N
A
J
J
O
A
R
R
Hard
to
break
yeah
almost
four
years,
I'm
chairman
of
the
swano
valley,
museum
and
would
like
to
talk
very
briefly
about
what
we're
here
tonight
about,
and
I
would
ask
that,
because
we
did
we've
been
waiting
a
long
time
for
this.
As
many
of
you
all
know,
I'd
like
ask
that
our
members
and
chesky
our
director,
john
our
architect
and
our
construction
committee,
if
they
would
stand
just
so
folks,
can
see
those
that
have
been
involved
in
this
project
for
some
time.
R
I'm
going
to
make
a
few
brief
remarks
tonight
this
evening
about
why
we're
here,
and
it
does
have
to
do
with
something
that
I
think
we
have
a
great
passion
for
especially
those
of
us
that
are
natives
and,
I
think,
very
much
importantly,
those
folks
that
have
come
here
to
our
valley
as
newcomers,
and
I
always
end
up
telling
folks.
When
I
make
that
comment,
don't
forget,
we
ran
the
cherokees
out,
so
we're
all
newcomers
to
some
degree.
R
Most
of
that
time
I
would
say
70,
but
from
then
till
now
was
used
as
a
fire
department.
I
think
the
fellows
up
there
had
one
bathroom
and
they're
right
bunks
and
it
was
a
pretty
tight
operation.
It's
a
very
tight
operation
for
the
museum.
We've
got
about
three
thousand
square
feet.
To
give
you
some
idea
of
what
is
taking
place
with
regard
to
the
museum
since
in
1988
are
founders
of
the
museum
which
you
all
graciously
gave
us
the
building.
R
We
got
a
deed
in
2000,
but
harold
patton
bill
mcmurray,
harry
styles
and
tom
reynolds
were
the
founders
of
the
museum
in
1988..
We
didn't
actually
hire
a
full-time
administrator
and
get
organized
with
laws
and
regulations
and
all
those
other
things
that
come
about
until
around
2001
we
have
grown,
and
this
is
very
important.
R
It
relates
to
what
we're
here
tonight
asking
about
with
regard
to
the
facility
we
have
grown
in
that
period
of
15
years,
approximately
from
35
donors
to
over
600
members
in
membership,
which
makes
us
the
largest
membership
entity
in
this
one
anoa
valley-
and
it
is
a
good
bit
of
our
our
income-
is
generated
from
that
and
by
the
way
we
are
very
solvent.
We
have
about
forty
thousand
dollars
back
up
to
our
operating
budget
and
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
nine
000
in
funds
set
aside
for
our
building
and
that's
again.
R
R
R
The
thing
that
I
have
witnessed
down
there
at
the
bank
over
a
period
of
years
of
dealing
with
people,
we've
got
about
1400
count
holders
and
when
I
started
after
back
in
the
70s,
there
was
a
feeling
in
town
of
newcomers
coming
in
and
wanting
to
change
everything
and
the
thought
was
well.
We
did
it
this
way
back
home.
We
need
to
be
doing
it
here
now.
R
What
has
happened
is
there's
become
a
much
more
greater
appreciation
in
our
community
for
what
we
have
and
the
folks
that
come
here
and
again.
This
is
a
site
thing
that
goes
in
cycles,
but
the
folks
that
are
coming
here
now
are
very
proud
of
that
fact
very
proud
of
our
heritage,
very
proud
of
our
tradition
and
want
to
do
all
they
can
to
preserve
it,
and
that,
in
a
nutshell,
tells
you
what
the
museum
is
about
is
protecting
preserving
that
history
that
we
can
pass
down
to
generations
to
come.
R
Unfortunately,
we
didn't
do
a
real
good
job
of
that,
there's
only
about
three
books
out
there.
That
can
give
you
a
little
flavor
of
what's
happened,
and
I
would
I
would
close
with
this,
and
I
think
it's
very
applicable
and
I've
used
it
a
number
of
times
in
talking
to
folks
about
the
museum.
Many
of
you
all
know
our
beloved
arthur
joe
hemphill,
who
passed
away
a
few
years
ago.
R
Several
years
ago,
probably
eight
to
ten
years
ago,
a
tv
crew
from
wbtv
in
charlotte
had
gotten
up
with
joe
and
because
the
catawba
river
starts
here
and
runs
down.
East
had
asked
joe
since
he
owned
most
of
the
property
he'd.
Be
glad
to
tell
you
that
if
you're
here
today
runs
through
his
property,
they
asked
him
if
he
would
take
him
up
to
the
headwaters
and
arthur
joe
called
me
and
asked
if
I'd
tag
along
with
him,
we
went
up
there.
R
They
asked
him
about
his
ownership
of
all
this
land
and
I'll.
Never
forget
this.
This
was
the
remark
joe
made
arthur
joe
made.
He
said
you
know.
Yes,
I
do
own
all
this
land,
but
I'm
really
not
an
owner,
I'm
a
caretaker
for
a
period
of
time
and
that
is
really
applicable.
Arthur
joe,
was
not
an
environmentalist.
He
was
a
strong
conservationist
and
he
felt
that
in
his
heart.
That
is
what
the
museum
is
hoping
to
do
and
has
done,
and
hopefully
with
the
approval
of
our
plans.
R
P
Mr
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
my
name
is
bill:
hamby,
I'm
chairman
of
the
construction
committee
for
the
museum
and
also
a
member
of
the
board,
and
I
can't
give
you
a
black
mountain
address,
because
I
live
in
swan.
Another
20
herschel
lane
in
swananoa,
but
that's
part
of
the
entire
swano
valley,
swano
valley
starts
everybody
know
where
it
starts:
gudgers
bridge
there
in
azalea
and
goes
the
head
of
ridgecrest.
P
I
believe
11
miles.
Some
last
number
I
saw
some
30
000
residents
involved
in
the
swano
valley,
live
in
the
swan
valley,
getting
it
amazing
the
valley,
it's
just
amazing,
a
blessing
to
be
able
to
to
live
and
work.
Here.
I've
been
fortunate.
I
used
to
be
able
to
give
you
a
dress.
In
black
mountain
grew
up
in
black
mountain
was
able
to
attend
college,
come
back
and
windows
already
mentioned
the
bumping
county
board
of
education.
P
P
What's
now
the
best
looking
door
in
the
town
of
black
mountain
and
that
was
under
the
auspices
of
hewing
and
mcconaughey.
Our
local
contractor,
who
hired
mike
roberts,
a
local
cabinet
maker
and
furniture
builder
who,
by
the
way,
actually
restores
the
front
of
that
at
the
beginning
of
our
fall
our
spring
season.
And
he
just
did
that
at
the
end
of
march.
P
P
Just,
as
has
been
already
been
mentioned,
the
problems
as
it
relates
to
the
economic
downturn,
and
we
pretty
much
were
at
a
standstill
as
far
as
proceeding
on
with
the
project
and
then
that
same
economic
downturn
resulted
in
our
first
architect
having
to
close
shop,
and
so
we
were
in
the
process
we
needed
to
undertake
hiring
a
new
architect.
We
went
through
our
architect
selection
process
at
the
beginning
of
last
year
and
once
that
was.
P
John
fisher
was
fisher,
architects
out
of
isil
was
selected
by
our
construction
committee
and
our
board,
and
since
that
time
he's
been
on
board
and
been
quite
involved,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
plans
that
are
in
your
packet
tonight
is
actually
the
11th
version
of
the
plans
that
he
brought
to.
Our
construction
committee
seemed
like
all
we
were
doing
last
year
and
particularly
the
beginning
of
last
year
was
meeting
with
the
architect,
but
that's
okay,
because
it
generated
a
project
that
we
are
quite
excited
about.
P
He
has
taken
a
fresh
new
look
to
what
we
had
from
our
original
architect,
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
as
an
end
result,
we
have
a
project
now
that
is
not
as
originally
designed
building
in
the
alleyway
and
building
a
three-story
building
in
the
back
he's
now
has
proposed
and,
and
the
construction
committee
is
approved
and
the
board
is
approved
basically
building
in
the
same
footprint
of
the
existing
building.
The
existing
block
building
that
was
built
in
the
back.
P
P
B
P
Of
work
have
been
able
to
reduce
our
estimated
costs
by
right
at
50,
but
we've
only
lost
right
about
20
of
the
original
plan
that
dated
back
to
2004..
We
only
lost
about
20
of
the
square
footage
and
what's
key
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
is
we've
only
lost
130
square
feet
in
gallery
space.
So
it's
quite
quite
impressive.
P
B
K
P
Of
the
first
things
he
pointed
out
to
us
is
that
is
that
we
needed
a
clarification
of
the
adjoining
survey
line
that
joins
the
common
wall,
space
of
our
building
in
the
art
center
building.
We
didn't
have
a
good
survey
at
the
time
we
didn't
have
a
correct
survey
to
adequately
describe
that
in
effect
the
same
footprint.
Q
Q
Q
So
in
doing
that
again,
we've
really
created
a
situation
where
the
existing
historic
building
is
preserved
and
we
felt
like
that
was
in
space.
So
we
basically
used
both
floors
of
that
space.
For
gallery
space
and
moved
all
the
service
areas,
the
bathrooms,
the
the
lift
and
office
space
and
all
those
things
out
of
that
bathroom
into
the
new
addition
that
we
can
really
honor
and
help
people
really
see
what
a
wonderful
structure
that
is,
and
then
this
is
the
first
door.
So
we
have
our
office
space
on
it.
Q
Q
One
of
the
things
you'll
notice
is
the
walls
in
the
interior
are
brick
it's
an
interesting
building.
You
don't
see
them
like
that
anymore,
so
we
really
wanted
to
highlight
it.
It's
really
three
wise
brick.
You
have
the
entire
wall
solid,
brick,
and
so
we're
pulling
that
surface
off
and
really
exposing
that
brick
allowing
those
windows
on
the
outside
to
bring
natural
light
into
the
gallery,
and
then
we're
polishing
the
concrete
floor
to
really
bring
back
that
sense
of
the
whole
fire
station.
Q
Q
He
pointed
out,
there's
some
absolutely
wonderful
old
trusses
up
in
there
that
were
made
as
primary
support
for
the
roof,
so
we're
pulling
out
those
old
ceilings
and
exposing
those
those
trusses
and
building
the
actual
insulated
ceiling
up
above
that-
and
this
is
a
little
doorway
which
is
actually
a
handicapped
lift
so
we're
providing
handicap
access
throughout
the
building
through
a
lift
system
and
as
you're
in
the
second
floor
gallery.
You
have
this
opening
here.
Q
Q
This
is
a
little
transition
area
that
we're
really
transitioning
between
the
historic
building
and
the
new
edition,
so
that
that
serves
as
a
transition
space,
and
then
you
can
see
this
is
the
office
space
here.
This
is
the
new
gallery
with
some
skylights
and
then
the
stairs
brings
you
back
down
into
the
historic
portion
of
the
building.
Q
This
is
the
alley
with
the
driplater
building
here
and
then
this
is
the
art
center
next
door.
The
exterior
materials
is
a
composite
rain
screen
system.
This
is
gray,
and
then
this
is
a
cast
stone
or
a
limestone
product
to
form
the
base
which
works
well
with
the
existing
brick
of
the
facade.
The
roof
of
the
new
addition
will
be
a
metal
roof
turned
battle
roof.
J
R
J
I
I
I
just
think
that
if,
if
there's
any
way
at
all
to
try
to
utilize
some
type
of
of
a
relief
like
they
have
down
at
the
at
that
pottery
building
where
they
have
gone
ahead
and
and
and
and
utilize
that
concrete
on
the
outside
that,
if
you
could
come
with
some
scene
from
100
years
ago,
200
years
ago,
that
could
be
put
on
that
part
of
it
would
would
really,
I
think,
really
accentuate
that
and
give
it
a
little
more
character
than
what
it
is.
Just
as
observation
stops
right.
P
Deed
requirements,
the
original
d
back
in
september,
20th
2000,
says
whatever
the
museum
does,
as
it
relates
to
major
changes
and
modifications
additions
and
so
forth
requires
your
approval.
So,
in
order
for
us
to
actually
have
a
what
we
call
a
sellable
project,
then
we
need
your
approval,
these
plans.
They
then
go
to
the
historic
commission
which
we
have
generally
scheduled
for
may
the
second.
Now
I've
been
informed,
so
there
may
be
some
changes.
A
A
160
midland
avenue,
black
mountain
and
the
swan
valley,
historical
and
preservation,
association,
who's
addressed
pill,
box,
306
black
mountain
also
to
approve
the
attached
somatic
design
plans
dated
march
15.
2012
is
prepared
by
fisher
architect
sure
there's
a
motion
for
that.
Yes,
in
discussion,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
folks,
well,.
A
S
J
A
O
B
O
We
believe
that
initially
we
can
save
about
eleven
thousand
dollars
doing
this.
We
believe
that,
without
doing
this,
we're
probably
headed
toward
having
to
possibly
hire
another
employee
in
the
public
services
department.
There
would
be
a
cost
of
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year,
including
benefits
total
package.
So
we
feel
that
by
doing
this,
it's
going
to
save
the
town,
a
significant
amount
of
money,
and
it
we
just
feel
like
it.
It's
a
prudent
thing
to
do.
A
E
L
Just
to
update
the
board
on
one
since
this
there
was
a
vote
after
the
agenda
meeting,
I'd
like
to
announce
that
the
town
has
finally
employed
a
lawyer
to
pursue
the
settings
bonds
that
will
be
bill
cannon
of
waynesville
that
the
employment
agreement
since
that
project
that
is
being
paid
for
both
the
town
and
the
settings.
Homeowners
association,
the
settings
has
approved
that
contract
they'll
be
signing
in
the
morning
we'll
be
moving
forward
with
him.
L
Second
issue
came
up
in
the
last
month
or
two
are
the
water
meter
reading
devices
the
radio
read
devices
that
have
been
a
failure.
I
was
asked
to
look
into
whether
or
not
we
could
go
to
the
company
and
try
to
recover
some
of
that
money.
There
is
some
possibility
there,
but
I'm
still
gathering
information
to
see
if,
under
the
warranty,
we
still
don't
have
a
leg
up
third
issue.
Richard
hudson
raised
as
a
better
public
comment
last
meeting
about
the
handling
of
funds
by
the
golf
course
management
committee.
L
In
light
of
the
statute
that
requires
that,
basically,
our
finance
director
have
his
finger
in
some
fashion
on
every
penny
that
comes
and
goes.
I
read:
those
statutes
appears
that
mr
appear
that
mr
hudson
was
correct.
Finally
got
work
back
and
carole
milan
said
this
morning
that,
in
fact
mr
hudson
was
correct,
and
I
know
the
second
question
is
for
those
who
are
hotly
opposed
to
the
management
committee.
Is
it
a
basis
for
terminating
the
contract?
L
Contract?
Has
a
severability
provision,
that's
a
provision.
The
contract
says
if
some
part
of
this
contract
cannot
work
the
way
it
says
it
doesn't
avoid
the
rest
of
the
contract.
However,
it
will
dictate
that
we
look
closer
and
rearrange
how
the
funds
coming
and
go
with.
The
golf
course
are
handled.
I've
looked
what
little.
I
know.
It's,
not
a
big
change
in
how
the
money
is
handled,
but
who
has
supervision
over
how
the
money's
handled
and
that's.
L
O
I
yes,
sir
real
happy
to
announce
tonight
in
our
public
services
department.
I
will
recognize
jamie
matthews
and
mark
white
and
working
on
reorganization,
the
organization's,
probably
not
a
good,
not
a
good
term
at
all,
we're
using
our
people
and-
and
we
should
be-
but
anyway,
jamie
has
been
our
interim
pub
works
director
for
some
time,
I'm
proud
to
announce
tonight.
He
is
no
longer
interim.
We
take
that
interim
away.
O
He
is
our
public
works
director
and
also
that
mark
white
is
director
of
water
quality
for
us
now
this
doesn't
mean
that
I'm
splitting
the
department
up.
I
love
the
cross-training
that
we're
doing
we're
going
to
continue
to
be
doing
that,
but
these
guys
are
going
to
be
working
together
hand
in
glove
to
make
this
department
work
as
efficiently
as
it
possibly
can
be.
O
Also
we
are
have
posted
now
for
a
operations
manager,
that's
in
the
that's
in
the
works
and
they
will
be
making
that
selection
in
the
very
very
near
future,
and
then
from
that
we
will.
We
will
have
two
crew
chiefs
and
that's
not
different
from
what
we've
had
in
the
past.
I
guess
we
kind
of
got
away
from
that,
maybe
at
a
point,
but
we're
kind
of
we'll
be
going
back
to
that
and
the
other
part.
The
other
piece
of
this
puzzle
that
we
that
we
talked
about
is
water
certification.
O
O
O
So
it's
going
to
be
a
two
year
plan
to
get
someone
else
in
our
department
to
get
that
certification
with
a
four-year
a
little
bit
longer
term
plan
to
get
a
second
person
to
get
that
certification,
realizing
mark
white,
we
don't
wouldn't
believe
us,
but
he's
eligible
for
retirement
looks
awful
young
to
be,
but
he
is
in
four
years.
So
that's
her
plans
in
the
public
services
department,
but
I
I
recognize
these
guys
tonight.
I
tell
you
now
they're
doing
a
great
job
for
us
and.
O
Ward,
just
a
brief
update
on
that.
I
have
decided.
You
folks
gave
me
the
assignment
to
pick
a
mediator.
I
have
decided,
I'm
judge
kai
she'll
be
doing
that
for
us.
We
do
have
a
little
glitch
in
this,
in
that
mary
sneed
has
got
some
surgery
coming
up.
She
thought
I'm
in
contact
with
her
and
she
thought
that
this
was
going
to
get
scheduled
for
last
friday.
It
did
not.
This
has
gotten
a
little
more
involved
than
what
she
thought,
so
she
has
changed
surgeons
and
we'll
be
meeting
with
the
new
surgeon.
N
N
N
E
M
J
B
J
Just
thinking
out
loud
here
maggie,
do
you
think
we
need
to
set
up
a
committee
to
overlook
this
golf
course
like
once,
every
quarter
or
something
I'm
not
saying
we
got
to
decide
tonight,
but
these
are
things
then,
just
like
the
golf
course.
That's
the
second
issue.
These
golf
carts
are
not
being
taken
care
of.
N
T
They've
spent
most
of
their
energy
right
now
getting
the
golf
course
into
the
best
shape
it's
ever
been
in
many
years
as
those
of
you
who've
been
out
there
lately,
so
they
are
taking
the
care
of
it
and
that's
what
they're
waiting
for
is
the
temperature
to
get
hot
enough
john.
Does
anybody
use
that
core?
There
have
been
very
few
people
out
there,
but
but,
like
alderman
sullivan
said
it
is
in
terrible
condition.
It's
not!
You
know
it's
a
nice
horse
track.
T
T
Looks
as
opposed
to
just
one
big
cow
pasture,
it
sort
of
has
a
pathway
leading
towards
the
green.
So
now
they're
cutting
the
fairways
much
shorter,
with
the
the
rough
on
the
sides
which
you're
not
supposed
to
hit
the
ball
into
you're
supposed
to
try
to
stay
in
the
fairway,
but
it's
so
they've.
Had
the
higher
grass
outside
of
the
fairways
are
intended
to
play
the
roughstar
mode
higher
and
are
more
served
more
as
a
penalty
to
the
errant
golf
shots.
The
rough
is
thicker
in
spots
than
in
years
past.
T
It
is
cut
at
one
and
three
quarters
of
an
inch
except
for
the
last
week
when
they
had
to
really
stop
cutting
grass
in
order
to
get
the
greens
aerated.
So
so
that's
why,
for
the
last
couple
days
it
had
a
problem,
as
some
of
you
know
I
was
out
there
this
morning.
It
has
been
cut
back
and
they're
going
to
maintain
the
one
and
three
quarter
inches,
and
it
just
happened
for
the
last
couple
days
when
they
were
trying
to
get
the
greens
back
into
to
the
shape
they
were.
T
T
B
T
So
the
rough
height
is
being
monitored,
but
it's
really
making
the
course
look
good
in
terms
of
the
golf
carts.
It
is
in
the
budget
for
2012
2013
by
christmas
they're.
Looking
at
replacing
all
those
they
realize
that
they're
being
maintained
to
the
best
of
the
ability
it
is
in
the
budget
for
the
2012-2013,
so
they
will
be
replaced
also
they
they're
on
their
eighth
year
and,
as
you
know,
they
last
about
four
or
five
years,
so
it
is
in
the
budget
to
be
replaced.
So
I
think
the
comments
I
heard
this
morning.
T
I
was
there
for
quite
a
few
times.
I'd
say:
80
of
the
people
are
very
pleased.
People
are
changing
their
membership
from
the
199,
which
ends
at
the
end
of
this
month
and
they're,
changing
it
to
the
five
six
hundred
dollar
and
seven
hundred
dollar
ones.
People
were
doing
it
this
morning,
while
I
was
standing
there
who's
so
so
I
think
the
comments
I've
heard
and
then
I
went
upstairs
and
looked
at
the
restaurant
and
my
understanding
from
the
people
I've
talked
to
in
the
article
in
the
paper
this
week.
T
The
service
and
the
food
is
phenomenal.
The
lady
there
is
doing
a
nice
job
and
people
are
real
pleased
with
the
atmosphere
up
in
the
lounge,
so
I
think
we're
moving.
We
still
have
a
ways
to
go,
but
considering
where
we
were
last
year
to
where
we
are
now,
it's
it's
it's
getting
where
we
want
it
to
be,
I
think
you'll
be
proud
of
it.
J
J
J
J
To
some
of
the
people
who
have
been
contacting
me
also,
that
say
play
is
slow.
Secondly,
with
regards
to
the
golf
golf
carts,
you
can,
I
mean
a
golf
cart
may
last
four
years
you
could
have
it
last
two
years
or
if
you
had
some
some
people
that
were
taking
good
care
of
them.
They
may
be
like
that,
lady
on
npr.
J
We
know
we're
going
to
have
to
replace
it,
but
to
stretch
the
life
of
those
carts
out
another
year
or
two
is
possible
if
we
had
folks
in
there
working
on
those
carts,
like
we
had
in
the
past,
like
john
white
kim
latta
kim,
has
said
that
he
would
work
that
he
would
maintain
the
cards
for
a
membership
and
then
free
cart
and
he
would
take
care
of
the
cards
and
that's
been
turned
down.
So
I'm
challenging
you.
S
Thank
you,
john
okay.
I'm
going
to
follow
up
on
what
arnold
sobel
was
referring
to
at
the
agenda
meeting.
I
took
all
that
what
he
was
saying
to
heart-
and
I
contacted
the
folks
at
billy
casper
mr
bedmark,
and
sent
him
an
email
and
requested
a
response
and
direct
response
to
those
questions
that
mr
sobel
has
to
put
out
and
what
he
has
sent
back
to
me
and
I'll
be
glad
to
share
this
for
our
folks
by
returning
an
email.
But
I
said
golf
carts
are
checked
for
safety.
S
Daily
maintenance
and
repair
of
the
cars
is
completed
by
a
mechanic
at
least
twice
a
month,
and
any
repairs
are
locked.
Every
cart
is
clean
after
use
during
the
off-season
is
completed
by
brent
and
a
small
team
of
card
attendants.
During
the
peak
season,
cart
attendants
are
staffed
daily
to
address
this
need
and
as.
B
B
S
S
That
is
an
improvement
impressive.
Considering
we
turned
zero
rounds
in
the
month
of
february.
In
2011.,
due
to
the
high
number
of
rounds
we
turned,
we
were
able
to
top
our
budget
by
149
february,
went
a
long
ways
towards
reducing
a
negative,
ed,
epitome,
ebi
t-d-a-r,
any
idea
what
that
is:
golfers
earnings
beforehand,
e-b-I-t
number
some
kind
of
number
anyway.
S
S
S
You
know
we
getting
calls
and
one
person's
saying
over
here
that
the
place
is
falling
apart.
It's
not
doing
any
good,
and
somebody
called
over
here
and
said
you're
doing
a
great
job,
keep
up
the
good
work.
So
you
know
maybe
mr
sober's
writing.
We
need
to
have
some
kind
of
a
little
committee
or
something
that
can
kind
of
help
offers
earnings
before
e-b-I-t-d-a-r
number.
Some
kind
of
number
anyway.
S
A
O
O
I
have
been
in
contact
with
them,
and
I've
got
a
conference
call
set
up
between
myself
nick
bednar.
Now
he's
original
manager
out
of
ohio
and
brian
lovejoy
is
regional
manager
out
of
tennessee.
So
I
got
a
conference
call
set
up
for
those
guys
tomorrow
to
talk
about
the
things
we've
talked
about,
and
one
thing
what
talked
about
tonight
is
the
moving
of
the
pro
shop.
I
think
that's
probably
the
number
one
issue
that
I
hear
a
possibility
of
moving
pro
shop
back
where
it
was
a
concern.
O
I
hadn't
heard
this
before
a
concern
that
I
have
that
john
mentioned:
bermuda
grass
on
the
croquet
court.
I
boy
I've
got
concerns
about
that.
They
had
talked
about
doing
some
bermuda
grass
on
the
course,
and
I
talked
to
them.
They
kind
of
backed
away
from
that
because
of
the
climate
in
our
area
it
stays
dormant.
So
much
of
the
year.
I
don't
know
that
that's
a
good
idea,
the
the
bermuda,
but
anyway
we'll
be
talking
about
the
croquet
chord
and
and
all
the
things
we've
talked
about
well.
D
B
J
O
S
Two
things
first
thing
is
those
came
to
my
attention
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
that
the
actual
tribute
one
of
the
local
papers-
they
ran
a-
I
guess,
actual
citizen
time,
just
to
do
it
too,
but
it
would
list
all
the
property
tax
delinquents
in
the
in
the
county.
It
was
very
interesting.
I
went
back
to
the
county
tax
website
and
I
pulled
up
specifically
black
mountain
and
dean.
S
I
don't
know
where
we
are
as
far
as
I
guess
collections
go
for
2011.,
but
it
was
really
interesting
to
me
to
see
the
amount
of
taxes
that
are
still
floating
around
out
there
for
buncombe
county
and
not
only
is
the
bunker
county
taxes
that
figured
in
that,
I
guess
would
be
black
mountain
taxes
and
vehicle
taxes,
and
what
have
you
is
all
is
kind
of
looped
together
I
would
imagine
yeah.
I
just
looked
at
property
taxes
today
and
that.
K
S
S
That
john
was
there
and
he
has
sheldon's
hand,
and
he
has
always
been
very
outspoken
about
that
piece
of
property.
He's
always
said
we
needed
to
set
up
a
needed
seller,
but
mr
reagan
was
right
out
there
with
this
breaking
ground
and
tim.
I
think
that
says
a
lot
of
your
commitment
and
wanting
to
accept
what
the
majority
says
and
move
on
the
other
thing
that
really
impressed
me
was
what
the
mayor
said
in
his
speech
and
that,
if
we
think.
B
B
S
It's
there,
let's
work
together
to
make
this
happen.
Let's
work
together
to
make
this
something
that's
going
to
benefit
all
of
us.
I
think
it
can,
and
I
think
it
will
of
course
be
a
show
place.
These
gentlemen
presented
an
excellent
plan
tonight
to
make
an
improvement
to
the
swimming
move
by
the
museum.
That's
going
to
be
a
show
place
this
corner
a
lot
here.
The
time
is
going
to
be
a
showplace,
but
it
won't
happen
unless
we
all
work
together.
That's
amazing.
U
The
gentleman
who
attended
your
town
meeting
last
week
was
it
week
before
last
and
without
any
solicitation
told
what
a
good
game
of
golf
he
said
how
much
better
it
is
now
than
it
was
two
years
ago,
and
we
didn't
even
ask
him
to
say
that
he
said
it
on
his
own.
He
said
he's
been
playing
here
for
what
four
years
he
moved
to.