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Buncombe County Board of Commissioners meeting from June 6, 2017.
A
C
Thank
you
turn
the
moment.
Kalpesh.
We
also
announce
Jack,
Thompson
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
Preservation
Society
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
can
I
had
to
come
to
you
tonight
to
let
you
know
that
Mary
is
preservation
month
and
on
9
2015
award
program
over
at
the
historic
Masonic
Temple
in
downtown
Asheville,
and
we
have
to
inform
Buncombe
County
that
y'all
won
an
award
for
your
stewardship
for
number
205,
College
Street,
also
known
as
the
smithing
carrier
building.
C
This
is
where
your
Register
of
Deeds
is
housed
sandwich
right
between
a
relatively
men
construction
for
the
court
center,
an
elegant
building
for
a
new
one
and
a
modernist
construction.
On
the
other
side,
a
little
bit
of
history
in
1920
Abbot.
He
came
and
had
decided
that
his
architectural
business
was
going
well
enough
that
he
should
purchase
an
investment
property
in
downtown
Asheville.
C
When
the
previous
15
miles,
Kenya
had
teamed
up
with
Richard
Sharpe
Smith,
one
of
Asheville's,
most
prolific
and
influential
architects,
smoky
Canyon
at
the
height
of
their
careers
when
they
decided
to
build
a
new
office
for
themselves
at
2:05,
College
Street.
Now,
let's
fast-forward
to
1994
the
cannot
chose
to
purchase
this
historically
significant
building
in
the
heart
of
the
historic
district
of
downtown
Asheville
and
over
the
past
23
years.
The
cameras
made
significant
repairs
and
breathed
new
life
into
the
carrier
building,
while
the
environments
around
it
changed
dramatically.
The
Buncombe.
C
Of
design,
careful
steward
of
this
historic
place
and
its
history
is
celebrated
in
photography.
Throughout
the
building.
The
Preservation
Society
is
honored
to
award
Buncombe
County
a
Griffin
award
for
a
store
preservation
for
the
good
stewardship
of
the
smithing
carrier
office
buildings
life.
We
have
two
more
lives
that
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
because
they
fall
under
y'all
on
bro
yells
umbrella.
A
little
bit
of
overlap
here
out
in
San
Dimas.
C
The
farm
Heritage
Trail
was
created
in
2016
as
a
collaborative
effort
between
San
Dimas
resident
and
farmer,
Carrie
wells
and
eronel
Ziff
of
the
Buncombe
County
Soil
and
Conservation
District.
The
purpose
of
the
farm
trail
commemorates
preservation
of
agricultural
land
and
life
ways.
It
creates
public
access
to
farms
and
goods.
It
educates
visitors
about
agriculture,
land
conservation
and
rural
life
ways
and
it
celebrates
the
world
landscape
and
supports
cultural
tourism.
In
a
remote
corner
of
Buncombe
County,
the
farm
heritage
trail
was
awarded
a
Griffin
in
the
education
category
this
year.
C
I've
also
noticed
that
the
San
Dimas
community
center
has
a
line
item
on
your
budget,
hopefully
for
consideration
that
you
may
be
a
good
steward
of
that
historic
property
as
well
out
in
our
little
piece
of
heaven
in
the
county.
There's
an
often
published
statement
that
quote-unquote
Asheville
was
all
boarded
up
in
the
1980s.
This
was
a
misconception
that
the
North
Carolina
collection
at
pact-
Memorial,
Public
Library,
wanted
to
dispel
by
taking
a
close
look
at
just
exactly
what
was
going
on
at
that
time.
C
When
Darrell's
Renaissance
began,
the
six
part
series
that
attracted
over
a
thousand
people
was
also
a
limited
with
mental
ed
in
the
education
category,
for
2017
and
I,
know
dry
or
destroyed
deeds
very
well
and
I'm
certain
that
he's
going
to
be
very
proud
to
have
this
hanging
in
205
College
Street.
Thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
and
I
would
a
function
of
the
Register
of
Deeds
I
just
encourage
folks
to
go
over
there.
It
really
is
it's
a
beautiful
historic
building
and
it's
been
the
reutilization
of
it,
as
our
new
Register
of
Deeds
has
been
done
beautifully.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
folks
in
the
Register
of
Deeds
were
very
nervous
when
they
were
going
to
relocate
and
but
it's
turned
out.
Terrific
and
I
really
want
to
commend
dr.
A
green
and
her
staff
and
the
architects
who
worked
on
it
and
everyone
who
had
a
role
in
it
and,
of
course,
our
Register
of
Deeds
as
well
and
working
together.
So
it's
a
great
project
and
it's
a
beautiful
beautiful
asset
for
Buncombe
County.
So,
and
thank
you
for
the
recognition.
We
really
appreciate
it
all
right.
Well,
next,
up
in
the
agenda
is
the
is
an
update
from
the
energy
innovation
task
force.
We
are
not
planning
to
have
them.
You
vote
on
this
this
evening.
A
That
will
have
an
update
from
the
task
force
in
Sam
Roark,
we'll
be
presenting,
along
with
some
assists
from
Jason
walls
and
Brad
routes
or
other
active
members
on
the
task
force
and.
A
E
Magic
all
right
great
good
evening.
Everyone
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
you
this
evening.
My
name
is
Sam
Rodriguez
I'm,
the
executive
director
for
the
WNC
Green
Building,
Council
and
I'm
a
resident
with
my
family
in
Chandler
in
the
upper
honey
valley
area
and
I'm.
Also,
a
member
of
the
energy
demand,
innovation
task
force
and
there's
been
so
much
time
and
energy
put
into
this
effort
over
the
past
year.
That
I
hope
I.
Do
it
justice
tonight
and
provide
us
update
and
recommendations
to
you
just
a
brief
overview.
E
The
EIT
F
as
we
call
it,
was
formed
in
April
2016
as
a
collaboration
between
the
city
of
Asheville
in
Buncombe,
County
and
Duke
Energy.
There
was
a
joint
resolution
to
establish
this
EIT
f.
It
has
two
goals.
The
long-term
goal
is
to
transition
the
Duke
Energy
progress,
West
region
to
a
cleaner,
affordable
and
smarter
energy,
future
rooted
in
community
engagement
and
collaboration
that
is
mutually
beneficial
to
the
community
and
Duke
Energy.
We
also
have
a
short
term
goal,
which
is
avoid
or
delay
the
construction
of
109
megawatt
natural
gas
speaker
plant
plan
for
2023.
E
There's
four
convenient
entities,
the
city
of
Asheville
in
Buncombe
County
play
the
roles
of
serving
as
condos
to
the
community.
Stakeholders
contribute
to
the
solution:
development,
implementation
of
those
in
close
collaboration
in
the
community
and
support
community
outreach
and
education.
The
role
of
Duke
Energy
is
to
provide
data
and
conduct
analysis
to
create
baseline
and
annual
targets.
Support.
The
analytical
or
research
needs
for
workgroups
contribute
to
the
solution,
development
and
implementation
in
collaboration
with
the
community,
and
also
support
the
community
education,
outreach
and
marketing.
We
have
a
nonprofit
partner,
called
rocky
mountain
Institute's.
E
E
So
the
GF
has
a
potentially
a
national
model
for
other
communities
and
utilities.
It's
really
it's
a
unique
thing.
That's
happening
right
now.
It's
a
partnership
like
no
other
really
in
a
country
where
the
utility
and
local
government
and
community
and
business
partners
are
coming
together
to
look
at.
How
do
we
essentially
delay
and
avoid
the
need
for
a
power
plant?
E
The
developer
and
utility
here
on
your
screen
is
a
representatives
from
the
EITS
there's.
A
lot
of
brilliant
passionate
people
in
here,
there's
been
thousands
of
hours,
have
been
dedicated
to
this
effort.
So
far,
I
personally
have
put
in
over
150
hours
on
this
and
also
related
to
this.
We
have
about
15
people,
that's
throwing
the
EITS,
but
there's
also
about
40
to
50
people
that
come
to
each
meeting
as
well,
and
we
have
subcommittees
that
focus
on
various
issues
too.
E
So
there's
a
ton
of
people
engaged
in
this
process
and
we've
been
able
to
collect
a
lot
of
their
their
knowledge
and
information
and
passion
in
order
to
develop
these
recommendations.
We're
presenting
two
tonight
on
progress
to
date,
so
I'm
gonna
turn
around
adjacent
walls
with
Duke
Energy,
to
talk
about
Duke,
Energy's
commitments
and
what
they've
been
able
to
formulate
as
part
his
process.
F
Thanks
Sam
and
I'm
Jason
walls,
the
district
manager
with
Duke
Energy
progress
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
these
really
quickly.
One
of
the
one
of
the
most
significant
work
streams
that
the
company
has
done
today
is
we're
looking
at
how
we're
going
to
meet
none
our
our
commitments
to
install
at
least
15
megawatts
of
solar
energy.
Here
in
the
region,
as
well
as
at
least
five
megawatts
of
battery
storage
technology.
We
are
getting
really
close
to
of
identifying
some
of
our
initial
sites
for
that
battery
storage
technology
that
will
likely
exceed
some
of
those.
F
Those
early
figures
that
we
M
talked
about
with
five
with
at
least
five
min
ago.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
than
that,
and
so
in
the
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months.
We
have
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
can
share
really
some
specifics
on
where
some
of
those
will
be
located
in
the
region.
The
idea
is
some
of
that
is
that
investment
will
allow
us
to
kind
of
push
that
power
plan
out
a
few
years,
even
as
we're
getting
started
and
we're
working
on
this
work.
F
A
couple
other
things
that
we're
working
on
we're
working
to
support
the
programs
working
group
with
them
greater
alignment
with
our
internal
energy
efficiency
and
demand
side
management
team,
as
well
as
we
are,
and
we
have
engaged
the
services
of
the
Shelton
group,
which
is
a
national
leading
marketing
and
brand
firm
that
focuses
just
on
energy
sustainability,
the
environment
space,
to
help
us
figure
out
how
we
connect
with
our
communities
to
drive
energy
efficient
behaviors.
But,
most
importantly,
we
have
a.
F
We
have
kind
of
renewed
our
commitment
by
putting
an
executive
level
person
in
charge
of
just
the
Western
Carolinas
modernization
work,
which
the
energy
innovation
task
force
encompasses.
Many
of
you
will
remember
a
name
Robert
Seitz
Robert
was
the
regional
vice
president
in
charge
of
all
company
operations.
Here
for
a
number
of
years,
his
passion
and
dedication
to
Asheville
is
unmatched
in
our
company
and
it's
real
excited.
F
It
real
exciting
he's
been
here
for
the
last
couple
of
years
as
our
general
manager
in
charge
of
of
our
poles
and
wires
operation
in
our
distribution
operations,
as
well
as
the
Western
Carolinas.
Modernization
work.
But
now
he
is
solely
devoted
in
the
vice-president
of
the
Western
Carolinas
modernization
effort
and
we're
real
excited
that
we
have
that
type
of
leader
to
realign
and
bring
people
together
inside
of
the
companies
to
support
this
important
work.
E
Great
thanks,
Jason,
okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
go
to
the
recommendations
that
the
energy
innovation
task
force
has
come
up
with
to
sort
of.
Let
you
know
that
these
recommendations
have
been.
You
know
that
didn't
talked
about
for
a
long
time.
There's
also
the
city
is
looking
at
these
recommendations
as
well.
It's
part
of
their
budget
process
and
then
these
recommendations
are
also
going
to
be
supported
by
the
community
collaborative
entities
like
nonprofits
and
business
leaders
that
are
part
of
the
energy
innovation
task
force.
E
So
the
first
one
we
have
is
for
clean
energy
improvements
for
community
organizations.
So
there's
many
nonprofit
organizations
such
as
homeless,
service
providers,
childcare
facilities
and
affordable
housing
entities
and
churches
and
volunteer
five
districts
that
have
their
own
facilities
that
we'd
like
to
support.
Some
of
these
organizations
are
folks
that
have
contracts
with
the
county
and
they
will
be
prioritized
during
the
pilot
phase.
E
The
the
funds
would
be
primarily
the
nights
loosely
focused
on
energy
efficiency,
upgrades
that
have
a
five
year
or
less
payback
for
those
projects,
and
the
good
thing
is
by
reducing
utility
calls.
Camellia
organization
become
more
financially
self-sufficient
and
they
become
less
dependent
on
taxpayer,
funding
or
other
outside
donors.
So
this
is
a
real
investment
in
their
facilities
and
helping
them
reduce
their
energy
cost.
G
Yeah
thanks
Sam,
so
we've
heard
a
not
allow
a
night
about
helping
the
poor
and
we
talk
a
lot
about
people
heavily
involved
in
doing
that,
and
we
also
heard
a
lot
of
concern
from
the
audience
about
the
climate
and
the
climate
crisis
in
we
say
that
low
income,
energy
efficiency,
especially
the
volunteer
based
program
like
where
we're
trying
to
get
started
with
energy
settlers
Network,
is
a
way
to
do
both
of
those
with
the
same
dialer.
So
you
kill
two
birds
with
one
stone.
You
help
the
poor.
G
You
help
the
goals
of
the
eitf
and
you
help
the
the
the
energy
efficiency
end
and
the
climate.
The
abundant
a
program,
I
think,
makes
a
whole
lot
of
sense.
It
just
has
so
many
values
them
and
we
have
a
tremendous,
as
you
can
see,
a
tremendous
volunteer
sort
of
spirit
in
the
community
between
manna
and
habitat.
You
have
over
120,000
dollars
a
year
of
volunteer
effort,
focused
on
this
problem
of
helping
lower-income
people
and,
with
you
know,
we're
proposing
a
little.
G
That
a
way
to
spring
that-
and
so
the
funding
would
allow
us
to
sort
of
build
into
that,
so
everything
that
that
I've
been
doing
now
working
on
40
homes
this
year
in
Buncombe
County,
is,
is
completely
volunteer
and
completely
donor
based,
and
so
we
can't
really
get
it
at
scale
without
more
support
and
what
we've
got
the
but
the
need.
You
know
the
numbers
of
this
are
very
and
you
know,
I
look.
We
look
at
efforts
with
when
you're
just
looking
at
the
cost
of
supplies,
even
a
one-year
payback.
G
Well,
if
you've
costed
out
the
volunteer
work,
maybe
a
three
year
payback
or
two,
your
payback
in
terms
of
impact
and
then
those
benefit
to
keep
going
to
the
people
that
we
serve
for
you
up
here
per
year,
and
it's
not
just
the
money.
It's
just
not
just
the
numbers.
It's
the
people
and
you
know
so
far-
I
mean
it's
really
misused.
G
Need
I
mean
working
with
from
a
woman
tomorrow
in
Asheville
who,
in
her
hats,
there's
a
number
of
problems
were
going
to
try
to
work
on,
but
the
funder
is
falling
off,
and
so
that's
an
energy
efficiency
problem
as
well
as
a
dual
problem,
and
we
want
up
in
a
mobile
home
and
I,
wouldn't
not
too
long
ago
and
the
resident
there
at
senior
person.
But
she
did,
she
didn't
choose
a
widow,
she
didn't
know
her
heat
pump
worked
and
so
the
way
she
had
it
set.
G
It
was
own
emergency
heat
way
too
much,
and
so
we
coach
our
own,
have
solve
that
problem.
There's
an
older
man
in
Asheville
african-american
man
in
Asheville
that
we
worked
with
early
on
this
year
and
he
he
dug
was
disconnected
from
his
heating
system
in
the
basement
at
one
critical
point
and
we
were
able
to
patch
that
together,
just
using
do-it-yourself
volunteer
labor.
So
we
identified
that
problem
and
we
fix
it.
It
didn't
cost
much,
but
we
had
to
be
there.
We
had
to
have
the
organization
and
we
had
to
see
it.
The
those
men.
G
Mush
that
corabeth's
car
lady
CCM
and
they
were
poured
into
us
and
he
had
a
$900
utility
bill
and
he
was
going
to
try
to
get
that
paid
for
by
one
of
these
charities.
But
you
know
he
didn't
know.
While
he
handled
we
went
out
and
we
figured
out
the
problem
and
we
recommended
that
he
talked
to
some
community
action
to
really
fix
that
problem
of
the
$900
heating
bill
for
two
months
for
two
months
in
the
winter,
and
it
wasn't
even
that
called
the
winter.
G
G
G
There
were
no
allows
that
behind
a
little
bird,
there
was
a
hole
in
the
well
from
the
Oregon
event,
which
is
the
source
of
energy
and
filtration,
and
someone
report
that
for
her
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that,
with
the
low
income
program
volunteer
based
that
we
can
do
so,
I
just
wanted
to
share
some
of
that.
With
with
what
the
members
and
say,
I
think.
We've
got
some
good
good
proposals
here,
but
thanks.
E
The
eitf
supports
your
efforts
to
current
energy
efficiency
improvements
for
facilities
and
also
propose
solar
farm
on
a
retired
county
landfill
and
in
recognition
of
increasingly
cost-effective
or
noble
technologies.
We
also
encourage
the
county
to
explore
expanded
installations
or
ennoble
energy
systems,
on
public
properties
and
facilities,
including
schools
and
throughout
the
community,
and
how
do
we
pay
for
this?
Well,
we
have
a
suggestion
to
create
a
Buncombe,
County,
Clean
Energy
Fund,
to
provide
resources
to
advance
these
energy
goals
and
basically
to
avoid
the
need
for
a
power
plant
and
a
transition.
E
Welcome
Calendar,
clean
energy
future.
The
fund
will
basically
leverage
utility
incentives
that
are
available
and
provide
energy
audits
for
local
businesses
in
organ
and
then
help
do
the
energy
efficiency
improvements
for
low-income
families
and
community
organizations,
and
it
also
could
be
fun,
could
be
also
be
used
for
researching
models
for
expanded
energy
efficiency.
Renewable
energy
in
Buncombe
County
as
well.
E
Here
are
the
budget
recommendations
that
we
have
the
volunteer
based
low
income
residents,
a
weatherization
program
about
thirty
five
thousand
dollars.
For
that
we
would
also
be
hoping
to
get
funds
from
other
sources
as
well
to
leverage
that
money,
there's
a
request
for
$50,000
to
support
par
MI
and
their
facilitation
efforts.
The
city
is
also
chipping
in
that
much
money
to
support
this
process.
E
Basically,
this
is
an
investment
in
the
economy
and
in
the
community
and
in
the
environment.
These
the
money
that
you'll
spend
will
will
multiply,
had
many
fold
to
help
support
these
organizations
in
these
families
and
also
to
help
delay
and
avoid
that
peaker
plant
that
we
so
desperately
need
to
do.
So.
That
is
pretty
much
our
recommendations
and
we
greatly
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today.
A
Great
thanks,
Sam
and
Jason
and
Brett.
So
thanks
for
the
update
and
any
questions
at
this
time,
we've
got
a
lot
of
other
presentations
on
budget
related
matters.
The
manager
will
present
later,
but
any
questions
at
this
time.
Thank.
H
You
so
much.
This
is
for
all
the
incredible
work
and
the
presentation
with
the
priority
areas
that
you
listed
ranked
in
order
of
well,
have
you
all
ranked
the
priorities.
E
We
haven't
ranked
the
priorities:
okay,
either
just
essentially
all
recommendations
that
we
feel
are
necessary
to
meet
our
goals.
Okay,.
B
B
You
know
my
concerns
or
reaching
those
who
are
struggling.
I
share
the
the
vision
of
those
that
are
out
there
that
are
struggling
with
their
heating
and
power
bills,
now
percent
sure
that
this
is
the
answer
it
could
be
part
of
it.
I
know
the
the
power
over
years
and
I.
Don't
know
what
you
know
you
do
now,
but
it
has
had
assistance
programs
for
people,
upgrading
the
heat,
pumps
and
and
and
such
as
that
need
is
that
need
is
great.
B
There
needs
to
be
more
research,
in
my
opinion,
associated
with
that
part.
It
can
return
a
lot
of
money
personally
to
the
to
the
families
that
are
that
are
having
$400
power
bills
and
$500
power,
drills
and
$600
power
bills
in
homes
that
are
1,100
square
feet
or
less,
and
that
would
be
my
challenge
and
there's
a
lot
of
homes
like
that
in
Buncombe
County,
some
more
summers,
older
stick
built
summer.
You
know
older
manufactured
homes
both
have
about
$400
a
month.
B
You
cut
it
to
100
with
a
new
heat
pump
or
something
like
that
which
can
be
done.
You're
talking
about
a
major
major
impact
again
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
is
the
way
to
go
about
it.
But
that's
where
the
need
is
great.
For
me,
you
know
we
approved
and
I
I
supported
the
LED
lights
in
the
schools.
I
think
is
a
great
thing
to
do
was
part
of
the
solution.
B
If
that
school
had
had
a
horrible
problem
with
its
power
bill-
and
you
know
the
the
source
of
its
heating
and
the
windows
and
so
on,
it
would
have
been
not
a
wise
decision
for
me
to
load
it
up
with
LED
lights
if
I
didn't
dress
those
other
things.
So
so
that's
kind
of
where
my
mind
is
going
with
the
people
that
live
out
in
Sandy
motions,
some
of
the
other
places
that
may
be
enough
and
everywhere
across
the
county.
B
Not
just
there
I
said
that
because
you
mention
them,
but
that
is
putting
a
lot
of
strain
on
the
on
the
power
systems
in
some
smaller
homes.
So
that's
kind
of
where
my
thought
went
when
I
looked
at
your
list
and
where
my
priorities
you
know
might
be
and
I
would
challenge
you
to
to
look
at
that
and
that
needs
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
A
K
K
Now
we're
talking
about
half
million
dollars
of
the
taxpayers
money,
how
am
I
going
to
tell
the
taxpayer?
That's
in
my
or
maybe
a
little
older,
that
lives
in
a
home
that
Ghost
and
here
the
tax
office
after
we
have
to
go
up
under
a
property
tax
to
cover
this,
for
whoever
you
want
to
cover
or
to
think
you
want
to
cover
it
for,
because
you
don't
have
a
plan
and
you
just
have
an
idea
and
they're
having
to
make
payments
under
property
tax.
K
Twenty
five
hundred
of
them
are
I,
see
the
Sierra
Club's
five
thousand
people
if
she
says
part
of
the
Sierra
Club
well
to
come
up
that
kind
of
manage
state
one
hundred
dollars
from
each
one
them.
So
this
ought
to
be
it's
not
the
county's
responsibility
to
back
up
Duke
Energy,
Duke
Energy
has
a
project
that
they
thought
about
doing
and
asked
a
few
people
to
come
into
it.
K
That's
good
I
think
it's
very
well,
but
I,
don't
think
that
we
should
be
the
ones
that's
a
culprit
to
has
to
stand
a
city
and
the
county
for
something
that
we
don't
know.
If
it's
going
to
work
or
not
work,
we're
all
sitting
under
lies
right
now,
if
it
wasn't
for
gas
and
coal
right
now,
we
wouldn't
be
sitting
under
glass
and
we're
not
going
to
be
sitting
under
lights.
K
If
you
think
it's
all
going
to
be
sold
or
energies
or
batteries
or
whatever
batteries
and
cars
go
bad,
it
costs
money
to
get
rid
of
solar
panels
are
going
to
go
bad
sooner
or
later,
and
it's
going
to
cost
a
ton
of
money
to
get
rid
of
power.
Plants
are
going
to
go
bad
and
sculpt
a
ton
of
money
you
get
rid
of.
So
my
personally
I
think
you
need
to
go
back
and
research.
What
y'all
would
like
to
do
as
a
group
of
people
not.
B
K
Coming
to
us
and
telling
us
what
we
need
to
do
we're
up
here,
disposal
II
lead
we're
not
up
here
to
supposedly
follow
and
I
look
at
seven
people
up
there
that
need
to
be
leading
and
I.
Don't
need
to
be
following
any
group
of
any
sort.
I
look
for
two
hundred
and
fifty
three
thousand
people
in
this
county
and
there's
definitely
not
that
many
people
in
this
room,
but
I'm
looking
for
the
ones
that
physically
cannot
afford
to
pay
the
property
tax.
K
A
Let's
get
one
pre
comment
on
so
I
appreciate
you
guys
being
here.
You
know,
of
course,
I've
been
representing
the
county
on
the
board
as
well,
and
it
just
will
just
reiterate
that
this
is
a
politician
wanted
some
other
folks
to
update
tonight,
because
I
kind
of
feel,
like
you
guys,
going
to
hear
me
talking
about
this
stuff,
all
the
time
and
probably
sick
of
hearing
it
for
me.
A
So,
but
as
we
as
we
hear
from
these
folks
and
the
other
people
who
are
with
us
tonight,
there's
there's
really
strong
support
in
the
community
for
for
I.
Think
making
this
trying
to
try
to
make
a
difference
in
this
area
and
I
think
how
do
I,
like
about
the
recommendations
that
have
emerged
that
are
being
recommended
back
to
the
county?
Is
that
they're
making
recommendations
to
us
to
try
to
address
some
things
that
we're
really
already
involved
in
you
know
we're
all
relaxed.
A
We
have
we've
heard
from
a
lot
of
great
organizations
tonight
about
their
organizations
and
programs
and
things
that
are
doing
all
these
different
organizations.
All
they
all
work
out
of
some
building
somewhere
and
they
all
have
to
pay
a
power
bill
every
month
in
there
and
they
get
direct
taxpayer
funding
from
us
to
carry
out
their
mission.
So
you
know,
just
like
the
you
know
the
LED
project
in
the
school's.
A
You
know
weight
environmental
project,
great
carbon
footprint
project,
but
it's
going
to
say
it's
going
to
save
the
county
school
system,
a
million
dollars
a
year.
You
know
it
has
a
three-and-a-half
year,
payback
I
mean
so
we'd,
be
financially
foolish
to
not
take
advantage
of
those
kind
of
opportunities
on
our
own
public
buildings.
But
for
these
other
organizations
that
are
receiving
direct
taxpayer
funding,
you
know
we
would
also
be
foolish
not
to
help
them
lower
their
utility
cost.
A
Just
like
we
are
with
the
schools,
because
then
they're
going
to
be
more
financially
self-sufficient,
less
reliant
on
us
and-
and
you
know
in
this
community
in
terms
of
the
low-income
folks,
in
their
homes,
we
spend
two
million
dollars
a
year
of
taxpayer
money
to
provide
a
heating
assistance
to
poor
people
in
Buncombe
County,
mostly
in
the
wintertime,
so
that
they
don't
literally
freeze
during
the
coldest
days
of
winter
and
because
we
believe
people
should
not
be
miserable,
discuss
their
poor.
It's
true
much
of
that
money
is.
A
It
is
mostly
state
and
federal
funding
that
passes
through
us,
but
it's
still
taxpayer
money
nonetheless,
so
in
the
same
way,
I
think
there's,
there's
really
strong
financial
arguments
for
us
trying
to
make
a
difference
here,
as
well
as
great
opportunities
on
the
clean
energy
goals.
So
thank
you
guys
for
the
update.
That's
all
I've
got
for
now,
yeah.
H
I
just
like
to
chime
in
and
be
honest
expressing
my
appreciation
pick
up
on
some
of
you
said:
brownie
I'm,
very
supportive
of
this
and
appreciative
of
the
task
force,
recommendations.
I,
think.
The
challenge
that
I
and
my
colleagues
faces
is
balancing
this
with
other
pressing
priorities
and
a
tax
rate
that
we're
trying
to
keep
as
low
as
we
can.
But
it's
it's
very
exciting
to
see
this
list
of
priorities
enumerated
and
to
see
the
vision
behind
it
and
I
mix.
H
I
am
fully
supportive
of
us
moving
forward
with
this
plan
and
figuring
out
a
timeline
around
which
we
could
do
that.
Given
some
of
the
budgetary
constraints
we
have
but
just
applied
what
y'all
are
doing
and
the
vision
behind
it
and
the
compassion-
and
you
know
the
in
addition
to
the
financial
arguments
for
this
I
think
I
know
as
a
person
of
the
faith
community
I
know,
there's
incredible
strong
support
from
faith
communities
across
Buncombe
County
to
be
engaging
on
these
issues
on
and
just
appreciate
what
y'all
are
doing.
I.
L
Too,
support
what
you're
doing
but
I've
asked
a
question.
Do
organizations
like
helpmate
and
other
organizations
who
are
working
to
help
people
with
will
not
help
nice
habitats
inside
who
work
to
help
with
you
know,
repair
houses
and
to
make
them
energy-efficient
and
they
represented
at
the
table
on
this
task
force.
There.
E
Are
nonprofits
habitat
hasn't
been
participating
at
the
task
force
and
we
have
had
conversation
with
them
to
try
to
get
them
to
start
doing
energy
efficiency
upgrades
because
that's
not
really
their
focus
so
much
and
but
they
have.
You
know
we
have
any
conversation
with
them
and
mount
housing
opportunities
as
well.
E
Community
action
opportunities
is
the
main
nonprofit
entity
that
does
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
work
in
the
community
and
they
are
on
the
task
force
and
we
have
also
had
means
of
like
Evelyn
charities
and
other
groups
that
have
a
direct
connection
with
families
that
need
support
and
there's
a
long
list
of
families
that
need.
You
need
this
kind
of
support
that
we
already
know
that
are
waiting
for
it
and
we
have
been
inviting
and
basically
touching
bases,
many
nonprofits
as
possible
that
are
in
service
to
the
community.
So.
B
Let
me
let
me
chime
back
in
real
quick
on
the
again
I
want
to
challenge
the
you're.
The
gold
question
is
in
prioritization
is
a
really
really
big
deal.
There's
a
lot
of
you
mentioned
admin.
There's
there's
a
lot
of
people
like
cabling,
the
others.
It
you
make
phone
call
to
them.
You
know
and
they're
going
to
try
to
make
sure
that
person's
heats
taking
care
of
it,
and
so
it's
going
to
need
to
be
a
lot
of
fault
around
around
this
right.
E
E
A
I
would
also
just
just
add,
you
know:
I
really
encourage
them.
We
have
a
lot
of
agenda
and
I
got
to
keep
this
pretty
focused.
The
program's
working
group
of
this
task
force
has
done
an
incredible
amount
of
research.
They
could.
They
could
give
us
a
two-hour
versions
of
what
we've
just
heard.
This
is
not
the
this
is
not
the
product
of
it.
This
is
a
is
a
very
high-level
overview
of
much
more
detailed
analysis
and
kind
of
program.
Ideas
that
take
them.
1.8.
K
K
You
know
we
don't
need
a
whole
passel
of
people
telling
us
what
we
need
to
do.
I
have
a
house,
it's
27
years
old
and
it's
energy
efficient.
It
was
a
long
time
ago
and
it
still
is
today
still
got
the
same
heat
pumps
in
it
and
when
you
have
a
light
bill,
that's
under
$300,
I,
think
you're
doing
pretty
good
and
it's
3,800
square
feet
with
three
heat
pumps.
K
So
it
goes
back
the
same
thing
we
are
in
here
trying
to
decide
that
we
put
a
little
task
force
together.
That's
supposedly
going
to
be
able
to
do
something,
but
we're
not
sure
exactly
because
nobody
knows
the
true
effort
of
it.
It
is,
we
can
say
we
can
save
Alaska
turn
the
mountain.
That's
no
big
deal,
but
I
can't
see
the
county
as
we
have
to
go
forward
to
now
with
the
budget
getting
ready
for
next
week.
K
K
A
M
Know
I
just
want
to
echo
Commissioner
Bell.
True,
there
is
I,
think
it's
great,
but
we
and
for
the
last
two
weeks
this
budget
has
been
very,
very
tough
and
with
tax
increase
and
we're
trying
to
work
on
it.
I'm
gonna
agree
that
right
now,
I
think
we
need
to
put
it
on
hold
right
now
and
investigate
it
more.
L
N
A
There's
a
presentation
that
we,
just
they
just
walk
through
Ellen,
so
dot
and
that'll
be
on
the
county's
website.
So
we
can.
You
can
look
at
that
and
there's
a
list
of
didn't
break
out
of
the
the
funding
and
in
Sam
mentioned
earlier,
there's
not
a
specific.
Why
does
not
rank
from
top
priority
the
lowest
priority?
It's
just
these
are?
These
are
the
recommendations.
So
that's
that's!
Where
we're
at
that's.
What's
been
presented
tonight:
okay,
yeah,
okay,.
N
A
O
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
the
proposed
amendments
to
the
text
of
the
zoning
ordinance
that
you're
hearing
tonight
are
to
encourage
conservation
subdivisions
to
add
standards
for
impound
lots
and
tow
yards
and
to
correct
a
reference
to
general
statutes.
Specifically,
the
following
changes
are
proposed:
definitions
for
conservation,
development
subdivision
and
motor
vehicles.
Impoundment
water,
tow
yard
are
added
in
the
definition.
A
junkyard
is
amended
to
exclude
impoundment
Lots.
O
The
statutory
vested
rights
provisions
section
is
revised
just
to
correct
a
reference
to
north
carolina
general
statute
and
the
permitted
use
table
is
modified
to
add
conservation
development
subdivisions
and
to
add
motor
vehicle,
impoundment
loss
or
tow
yards.
The
dimensional
requirement
section
is
modified
to
add
conservation
development
subdivision
to
the
type
of
development
that
are
allowed.
A
reduction
in
minimum
lot
size
and
setbacks.
O
The
steep
slope
elevation
overlay,
permitted
use
table
is
modified
to
add
conservation,
development,
subdivisions,
steep
slope,
I
love,
ation
overlay,
district
lot.
Size
standards
are
modified
to
allow
the
reduction
of
minimum
lot
size
for
conservation
development
subdivisions
and
a
new
section
titled
uses
by
right
subject
to
special
requirements.
Motor
vehicle
impoundment
lots
of
tow
yards
is
established,
is
added
to
establish
standards
for
impound
lots
and
tow
yards.
O
It
would
require
that
motor
via
motor
vehicle
storage
areas
being
closed
by
a
security
fence
and
then
a
row
of
buffer
of
evergreen
trees
be
planted
on
the
outside
of
that
fence.
The
Planning
Department
recommends
approval
of
the
proposed
amendments,
as
they
are
consistent
with
comprehensive
land
use
plan.
The
2013
update
recommends
the
establishment
of
land
use
regulations
which
allow
for
a
flexible
range
of
development
options
and
the
expansion
of
land
use
policies
and
regulations
to
adjust
for
changes
in
land
use
patterns
and
demands.
O
The
Planning
Board
held
a
public
hearing
on
these
proposed
zoning
ordinance
amendments
on
April
17th
of
this
year,
and
there
was
no
public
comment.
The
Planning
Board
found
that
the
amendments
and
consistent
with
the
land-use
planned
reasonable
and
in
the
public
interest
and
recommends
approval
in
a
vote
of
seven
nine
to
zero
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
for
me
at
this
time.
All.
A
B
O
A
P
Question
for
the
board-
and
you
won't
answer
you
can
because
it's
a
technical
question
but
I
think
you
need
to
consider
what
I'm
saying
as
you
pass
these
ordinances
I
remember
a
long
time
ago,
people
talked
about
how
that
you
were
going
to
end
up
having
to
make
decisions
on
the
individual
Lots.
If
somebody
is
not
happy
with
what
happens
in
the
planning
and
zoning,
so
the
bottom
line
is:
are
you
going
to
do
an
overlay
of
your
rules
and
regulations
and
by
the
impact
on
property
values?
P
P
I
can't
get
anybody
a
charter,
that's
impacting
the
value
of
my
rental
house,
because
anybody
today
that
wants
to
do
high-speed,
Internet
work,
and
so
these
types
of
things
you're
going
to
have
to
start
considering
your
overlay
for
your
taxes.
Okay,
just
want
to
pass
that
along
to
you
and
I'd
like
to
have
that
recorded
in
the
public
hearing.
Thank
you.
A
O
Cluster
development
is
where
there
are
smaller
Lots
so
that
more
of
the
parent
tract
can
be
set
aside
as
open
space.
So
the
intent
of
this
is
not
to
require
everyone
to
have
a
1500
square
foot
home,
but
there
are
density
bonuses
for
things
like
reduced
disturbance
on
the
in
the
tract.
So
what
we're
doing
is
try
to
ensure
that
the
developer
and
his
eagerness
to
get
density
bonuses,
actually
he
does
provide
a
lot,
that's
viable
and
it
could
have
a
typical
home
with
a
three-bedroom
wastewater
treatment.
O
B
B
A
I
A
J
Mr.
chairman
and
commissioners,
going
to
just
give
a
brief
overview
of
where
we
are
and
where
we
started
the
process,
but
I
want
to
take
just
a
moment.
I've
had
the
privilege
today
of
having
lunch
with
the
firefighters
Association
and
with
management
team
this
morning,
and
maybe
it's
just
a
reflective
time,
but
I
looked
around
the
room
and
I
really
feel
very
blessed
to
be
associated
with
such
dedicated
public
servants
and
I.
J
We
brought
you
a
budget
of
419
million,
two
hundred
eighty
nine
thousand
dollars,
which
was
a
7.2
million
dollar
increase
in
the
general
fund
budget.
These
are
the
main
numbers
and
we've
continued
to
work
on
these
on
these
this
budget.
It
is
a
revalue
in
2017.
We
had
sixty
point
four
cent.
Tax
rate
revenue
neutral
calculates
fifty
one
point:
three
cents:
the
budget
that
I
brought
you
with
was
developed
using
a
fifty
five
point.
Nine
cent
tax
rate,
I
will
say
I've
heard
very
clearly.
J
We
need
to
bring
that
right
on
down
and
we
continue
to
work
at
doing
that
and
thank
you
for
each
of
each
of
you
working
with
me,
as
we've
tried
to
do
that
just
to
visit.
If
you
look
at
our
revenues,
percentages
on
them
are
pretty
consistent
with
property
tax
being
our
largest
revenue
source,
followed
by
intergovernmental
revenue
and
sales
tax.
J
If
you
look
at
our
spending
plans,
the
the
larger
expenditures
are
education,
Public,
Safety
and
human
services.
Those
are
that's
consistent
from
year
to
year.
There
are
core
services,
the
things
that
we
do
have
included
in
the
budget.
Oh,
we
will
be
finishing
our
Cox
Avenue
facility
and
the
parking
deck
there
have
to
pick
up
the
debt
service.
On
that
we've
got
some
state
requirements
related
to
NC,
fast
and
retirement
increases
for
our
employee,
and
we
just
utilities
for
our
parking
deck.
We
do
have
some
debt
service
or
capital.
We
took
that
one
out.
J
Excuse
me:
we
are
still
on
the
backs
up
a
little
bit.
We
are
still
looking
at
some
expenses
related
to
public
safety,
economic
development,
energy
and
court
requests
and
trying
to
determine
what
kind
of
changes
we
need
to
make
in
our
budget.
Our
budget
at
this
time
will
willing
increase
for
some
of
those
will.
J
We
also
received
our
request
from
City,
Schools,
County,
Schools
and
a
BTech,
and
that
represents
requests
are
up
by
six
seven
point:
two
million
dollars
who
are
working
with
those
agencies
and
will
be
meeting
with
them
to
determine
what
we
actually
can
do
with
our
budget
there.
The
other
thing
I
would
point
out
is
we
do
set
several
tax
rates,
and
that
includes
our
fire
districts
and
our
city
school
tax.
J
Most
of
those
are
asking
to
hold
their
rate,
and
if
you
looked
over
and
I
think
they
have
visited
with
most
of
you
in
your
district,
we
do
look
forward
to
hearing
from
the
public
tonight
to
get
their
thoughts
and
their
advice
and
feedback
on
the
budget
as
it
was
presented.
And
yet-
and
hopefully
this
helps
them
know,
they're
still
things
we're
having
to
consider.
We
will
be
back
two
weeks
from
tonight
and
have
to
adopt
a
budget.
J
Several
things
that
we
do
hope
to
have
come
to
some
kind
of
closure
is
the
state
budget
that
will
help
us
look
at
our
education
budgets
and
right
now,
there's
there's
a
few
things
happening,
but
we
will
wait
for
the
House
and
the
Senate
to
get
together
and
come
back
with
the
budget
that
we
can
see.
How
take
a
really
close
look
at
how
it
impacts
us
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
and
looking
forward
to
hear
from
the
public.
A
So
why
don't
we
want
to
be
open?
The
public
hearing
there's
a
lot
of
comments
on
the
budget
during
the
opening
public
comment,
but
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
on
the
FY
18
County
budget
after
we
take
any
additional
public
comments,
then
we'll
bring
it
back
into
the
commission
all
right
going
to
open
the
public
hearing
at
8:27.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
this
evening?
Yes,
sir,
please
come
out
and
then
mr.
Yelton
did
you
raise
your
hand,
okay
to
be
next
Mike.
Q
Mr.
chair
and
thank
you
Commission
for
your
patience
tonight,
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I'm,
Tracy,
Elliot
I
live
in
beautiful
Shiloh
and
I'm.
The
director
of
the
Asheville
Humane
Society
I'm
here
for
two
reasons
and
I
want
us
to
thank
you
and
your
predecessors
and
the
county
staff
for
an
amazing
27
year,
partnership
between
Asheville
Humane
Society
and
the
Buncombe
County
Animal
Shelter
I'm.
Q
Also
here
to
ask
that
you
take
care
that
the
proposal
that
we
put
in
front
of
you,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
open-minded
reception
of
that
proposal
is
fully
funded.
We're
not
able
to
tell
from
the
budget
documents
available
to
us
whether
or
not
that
is
the
case.
It
appears
that
it
is
not,
but
we
would
hope
that
you
would
would
seek
that
answer
for
us.
As
you
know,
this
partnership
in
the
last
27
years
has
achieved
amazing
things.
We
now
save
the
lives
of
every
single
adoptable
animal
who
comes
into
the
county
shelter.
Q
That
goal
was
set
by
this
Commission
in
2006,
and
we
medical
two
years
early.
That
another
way
put,
that
is
our
euthanasia
rate
for
healthy
and
rebuild,
rehabilitate
able
animals
in
Buckman
County
is
zero.
At
an
international
conference
in
Toronto
just
last
week,
Ashley
Humane
Society
and
the
Buncombe
County
Animal
Shelter
were
named
one
of
the
top
30
of
the
5,000
BC
shelters
in
the
United
States
just
last
week.
Q
Q
4,100
of
those
were
in
low-income
families
in
low-income
neighborhoods
that
we
are
working
in
such
as
Emma
and
Deaver
view.
Our
first
targeted
neighborhood
was
Emma.
We
assisted
over
900
families
in
that
neighborhood.
In
the
first
12
months,
one
of
our
strongest
partners
there
is
Jeremy
Stowe,
the
principal
of
M
elementary.
Q
We
also
supplement
basic
shelter
services
by
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
As
an
example,
we
purchased
a
40,000
dollar
transport
vehicle
to
have
a
thousand
animals,
leave
the
shelter
every
year
and
go
to
northern
shelters.
We
cannot
continue
to
do
this.
We
need
our
basic
shelter
services
funded
by
you,
if
that
is
all
possible.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
in
your
consideration
and
thank
you
for
this
partnership.
Q
A
P
What
I've
got
positive
news
for
you
all
at
this
point
in
time?
How
about
that
you
can
solve
all
the
problems
in
the
world.
You
can
take
care
of
all
the
energy
problems.
You
can
take
care
of
all
the
animal
control
problems.
You
can
take
care
all
of
the
problems,
putting
people
to
work,
insulating
houses
and
everything
if
you
put
the
money
behind
it.
The
only
problem
is
where
does
that
money
come
from
so
I'd
like
to
propose
some
solutions,
I
think
there's
some
solutions
that
are
unhidden.
P
You
know
they're
hidden
here
and
you
don't
look
at
it.
I've
heard
it
a
lot
too,
not
about
coordination.
I
know
this
county
has
a
contract
with
United
Way
for
over
$100,000
to
refer
people
to
where
they
can
get
help.
Well,
they
obviously
based
on
what
we've
heard
that
not
with
all
these
health
agencies
given
help
United.
P
As
you
look
at
this,
these
nonprofits
are
supposed
to
be
nonprofit.
I
can
start
a
non-profit.
If
you'll
give
me
enough
money
to
fund
it,
and
then
I
can
pay
me
a
salary
out
of
it.
So
you
are
creating
jobs
when
you
do
that,
but
that
money
comes
from
somebody
else.
So
why
don't
you
put
these
things
under
the
number?
Oh
look
at
it.
P
You
can
use
it
this
year,
but
it's
going
to
be
too
hard,
but
look
it
put
them
under
number
Ella
to
where
people
in
the
county
that's
having
a
hard
time
paying
their
electric
bill
can
go
donate
time
and
get
some
credit
for
it.
If
they're
going
to
get
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
heat
credit,
how
many
of
them
can
work
in
some
of
these
agencies
and
let
them
receive
a
reward
for
their
effort.
P
We
all
know
you
feel
better
when
you
work
for
it
rather
than
get
it
give
it
to
you
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
I
ran
an
ad
for
somebody
to
do
some
work
on
my
farm
out
of
four
people
that
I
interviewed
three
said
you
pay
me
under
the
table
and
I'll
work
for
you
and
I
laughed
at
it.
I
said
I'm
already
paying
your
thousand
dollars
a
month,
foods
and
you're
in
subsidy.
So
no
I'm
not
going
to
that.
P
You
get
cash
and
pay
you
under
the
table,
because
I
need
the
tax
write-off
too,
because
I'm
trying
to
have
fordable,
renting
and
so
to
keep
my
torches
down.
I
think
you
need
to
look
creatively
as
some
of
these
solutions
that
are
outside
the
box
that
you're
not
going
to
hear
from
the
agencies
that
want
the
money
and
you're
not
going
to
hear
it
from
your
staff
and
because
you're
signing
up
there.
P
I
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
board,
you
ain't
wore
me
out,
yet
we
can
still
go
to
midnight
if
you
like.
Well,
even
he
budgets
increased
10%
a
year
for
the
last
10
years,
got
to
repeat
it.
Sometimes
Jen's
old
can't
remember
so
I'm
a
repeated.
That's
a
lot
of
money
budget
jumped
from
24
million
in
two
years,
I
believe
the
24
million
jump
was
an
intentional
effect
on
the
tax
rate
for
the
upcoming
2017
revaluation.
I
believe
this
barn
should
unanimously
make
sure
that
you
preserve
the
integrity
and
the
taxpayer
money
and
vote
unanimously.
I
I
I
I
R
R
But
what
I'm
here
to
to
and
I
don't
know
what
the
budget
numbers
that
you're
talking
about
tonight,
but
I
do
have
a
concern
and
the
concern
I
have
is
that
I'm
retired,
having
worked
for
do
some
years
and
engineering
and
technician
type
jobs
here
in
body
of
thirty
four
of
them
here
in
welcome
counter
I
may
be
one
of
the
few
people
that
pay
the
mortgage
off.
But
now,
as
it
comes
before
me
now
and
I'm,
like
okay
am
I
going
to
stay
in
Buncombe
County.
R
That
is
one
of
the
questions
I'm
starting
to
ask
myself.
One
of
them
is,
can
I
afford
to
stay
in
Buncombe
County
as
I
look
at
the
rest
of
my
career.
If
I
say
this
is
one
third
of
my
career
is,
you
know,
two
thirds
is
going
in
the
next
theorem,
and
so
now,
I'm
walking
and
listening
I
decided
I
was
to
leave
after
the
word.
But
then
I
said
you
were
to
stay
around
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
your
life
and
how
you
will
be
affected
and
how
it
all
affects
me.
R
R
H
R
Effect
on
me
personally,
and
they
have
an
effect
on
people
of
my
age
and
have
an
effect
on
people
of
color
and
people,
everybody
if
they
have
an
effect.
So
as
we
go
forward,
I
guess
they're
gonna
be
watching
it
a
lot
better
now
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
here
for
the
last
five
years
to
see
what
was
going
on
appreciate
your
service
over
the
years
and
I
appreciate.
Everybody
has
come
before
you
to
spell
out
their
hearts
because
they're
fun,
they're
doing
I,
know,
there's
a
lot
of
requests
for
money.
R
What
I
am
so
much
a
requesting
from
you
is
a
quality
of
life.
That's
what
I'm,
looking
for
as
I
continue
just
be
in
Buncombe
County
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
help
me
with
maintaining
a
quality
of
life,
so
that
I
could
maybe
one
day,
oh
by
the
way,
to
blanket
that
I
have
back
there
I'm
trying
to
decide
now
whether
to
put
it
on
the
right
side
of
the
Hyatt
County
blanket
or
the
left
side.
Thank
you.
A
Perfect
timing
well
done
all
right.
Anybody
else,
you'd
like
to
speak
during
the
hearing,
all
right,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
on
the
budget
at
8:40
and
I'll,
bring
it
back
for
discussion
at
the
Commission,
we're
not
going
to
vote
on
the
budget
Senate!
That's
what
we're
going
to
do
in
two
weeks
from
tonight,
but
are
there
any
any
questions
or
for
the
county
manager?
At
this
time,
yeah
I've.
B
Got
I've
got
one,
could
you
explain
the
fund
out
the
fund
balance
of
us
mentioned
said
we
five
million
dollar
fund
balance,
explain
the
appropriated,
fun,
dance,
I.
Think
the
only
thing
we
have
to
go
by
right
now
is
at
fifty
five
point:
nine
and
then
what
how
much
15
percent
is
because
I
think
that's
the
recommended
recommendation
correct.
Yes,.
J
S
This
so
yes,
there
is,
like
I,
think
73
million
dollars
of
fund
balance,
but
a
large
portion
of
that
is
actually
restricted
for
other
obligations,
and
so
what
is
available?
What
we
consider
the
available
fund
balance
for
that
15
percent
is
actually
I,
think
53
million
dollars,
and
that
is
what
we
have
is
considered
a
signed
committed
and
unassigned,
and
so
that
is
what
we
consider
as
our
reserves
with
by
the
LGC
requires
or
would
like
us
to
have
8%,
but
by
the
board
policy.
J
L
J
L
L
L
J
I
need
a
little
more
time
with
each
of
you
to
come
up
with
a
tax
rate,
that's
tolerable
for
everybody
and
still
makes
the
need
and
protects
the
fund
balance
and
looks,
looks
forward
at
least
two
to
three
budgets.
So
we,
but
also
will
tell
you
we
have
to
post
the
budget
next
Tuesday.
So
we
are
at
at
the
end
of
our
time,
frame
by
Monday,
Rosalyn
Turing.
K
J
J
You
borrow
money,
you
tell
the
bond
the
people
who
buy
your
bonds,
how
you
will
use
that
money,
so
you
use
it
for
the
purpose,
and
so
in
that
particular
case
as
a
public
safety
purpose,
should
you
have
any
money
left,
there's
only
two
things
you
can
do
with
money
left
over
use
it
for
our
like
Public
Safety
purpose
or
use
it
to
pay
the
debt.
When
we
started
this
budget
process,
we
needed
2
million
dollars
for
ambulances
and
we
were
able
to
repurpose
that
to
buy
what
was
left
to
buy
your
ambulances.
J
R
K
You've
got
time
that
you
have
to
spend
on
stuff,
but
being
surprised
that
we
buy
x-mount
ambulances
and
it
was
a
pretty
big
number
and
you
know
anyway,
you
want
to
look
at
it
and
to
point
over
two
million
dollars
and
a
million
eight
hundred
thousand
ambulances
alone
at
one
time
and
I,
don't
know
of
any
county,
commissioner.
That
knew
that
this
was
happening.
We.
J
Have
historically
replaced
our
ambulances
every
four
years,
there's
a
long
track
record
of
that
I'm.
Sorry!
If
we,
if
we
didn't
give
you
all
the
detail,
you
needed
in
that
budget
amendment,
but
we
you
know
we
go
out
for
bid
every
four
years.
We
try
to
save
money
where
we
can,
but
ambulances
get
to
end
of
life
and
I.
K
Just
heard
that
it
was
put
out
on
the
thing
that
we
basically
used
to
my
name
is
on
April
27
this
year
and
I
thought
we
had
a
deal
that
our
Kent
County
manager
would
work
with
us
and
tell
us
what
was
going
on
and
after
X
amount
of
dollars.
She
had
to
come
before
us
to
be
able
to
spend
this
money
actually.
J
It
was
a
budget
ordinance
I'll,
pull
that
out
and
show
it
to
you
if
it's
a-
and
we
did
talk
about
putting
amounts
above
a
certain
level
on
new
business
as
opposed
to
all
business
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
ordinance
at
the
budget
ordinance.
But
that
would
be
my
mistake
if
it
didn't
show
up
on
new
business,
but
it
would
have
been
in
consent.
I've.
K
Never
seen
it
on
anything
I'm,
sorry,
it
wasn't
in
on
all
the
to
lists
that
I
had
for
a
budget
period.
I've,
never
seen
that
in
them
I'm.
That's
the
one
thing,
I'm
just
disappointed
that
you
know
it's
it's
hard
to
find
stuff
and
then,
when
you
find
it,
it's
a
total
disappointing
I
apologize
for
being
that
way,
but
you
have
done
a
great
job
and
I
know.
K
We
all
sometimes
do
things
to
conclude
myself
that
we
have
to
look
back
at
but
as
as
who
we
are,
as
the
commission
of
Seven
Oaks,
we
should
know
exactly
what's
happening
when
there's
that
kind
of
dollars
spent
period.
You
know
it's
not
just
a
Melissa's,
it's
vehicles,
we
do
have
vehicles
tied
into
this
budget
for
the
sheriff's
office,
but
you
have
vehicles
tied
into
that
too.
So
you
know
or
that's
what
you
said.
So
it's.
K
M
Dr.
green
appreciate,
20
years,
I
only
got
to
spend
six
months
with
you.
So
far.
It's
been
great
but
I
like
Jerry
Rice's,
50
cent
thing
I
just
wish.
We
could
get
there
and
I
know
you
wish,
because
and.
M
So
much
passionate-
and
here
you
are
leaving
but
you're
still
very
concerned
with
what's
going
on,
I
know
most
of
Commissioners
know.
My
big
concern
is
what
we
will
do
with
the
elderly
people,
usually
when
they
was
making
$3
an
hour,
and
now
it
seems
like
$12
an
hour
and
a
lot
of
mine,
their
property,
but
they
don't
actually
own
it
because
they're
making
payments
every
year
and
sometime
we're
paying
more
than
what
they
paid
for
that
property
in
the
30s
and
40s.
M
So
you
know
that's
it,
but
I
think
one
thing
that
can
help
us
I
mean
you
talked
a
little
bit.
If
you
could
explain
that
we're
trying
to
give
it
where
we
can
get
it
down
closer
to
revenue
neutral
we're
not
going
to
get
that.
Well,
I
hope
we
do
but
you're,
not
you
I
think
you
mentioned
you're
not
concerned
with
2018
as
much
and
here
you
are
going
to
be
gone
of
what
2019
can
bring
I.
J
We,
that
is
how
I
feel
I
think
that
when
you
look
at
2018
I,
don't
believe
we
can
lower
it
to
revenue
neutral,
I,
just
don't
see
a
way
we
can
get
there
and
fund
all
the
requests
that
we
have.
That
are
a
lot
related
around
core
services.
We
are
continuing
to
look
at
places
where
we
can
reduce
our
expenditures
and
y'all
are,
are
instrumental
in
helping
us
get
there,
and
we
will
we'll
continue
to
look
at
those
numbers
I
and
some
of
our
conversations.
J
One
of
the
things
that
the
challenge,
especially
with
our
elderly
population.
There
is
an
elderly
exemption
on
property
tax.
If
your
income
is
below
I,
think
it's
$29,000
I
do
think,
there's
a
good
opportunity
if
we
could
go
work
with
the
General
Assembly
to
get
them
to
raise
that
level.
Now
it
raises
it
across
the
entire
state
and
we
have
to
because
property
tax
is
treated
equal
across
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
but
I.
J
Think
if
we
took
our
like
our
average
median
income
or
took
a
look
at
something
that's
much
closer
to
what
it
takes
to
live
here
and
went
to
the
General
Assembly
and
said:
can
we
raise
the
elder
exemption
income
limit
to
whether
it's
thirty,
four,
thirty,
five
or
whatever
it
is?
It
would
start
to
help
a
lot
of
people
and
give
them
that
property
tax
exemption.
So
it's
have
not
seen
any
action
on
it.
J
Although
we
have
made
the
inquiry
about
it
in
this
long
session,
but
I
do
think
it's
something
we
can
go
back
and
talk
to
them
about
in
short
session,
because
it
is
a
budgetary
impact
item
and
I
believe
that
we
we
could
have
that
discussion
with
them
and
see
what
we
get
to
get
them
to
do,
which
would
help
our
elderly
population
a
lot.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
K
Excuse
me
one
second:
oh
man,
I
think
the
veterans
already
get
more
than
the
people
it's
on
Social
Security.
You
know
I'm
a
Vietnam
and
when
Social
Security,
but
the
fact
is
I
think
the
people
just
like
the
gentleman
spoke
in
the
back.
You
know
you
retire
and
he
wants
to
stay
here.
That's
that's!
That's!
Basically
what
I'm
saying
I
want
people
be
able
to.
So
if
we
can
talk
them
in
forty-nine
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
get
it
closer
to
the
veterans
side,
then
people
can
afford
to
stay
here
and.
J
J
We
will
need
involvement,
your
involvement
with
the
General
Assembly,
our
local
delegation,
to
have
that
discussion
with
we're
happy
to
put
the
research
together
and
show
them
some
options,
but
I
do
think
it's
time
to
take
a
look
at
when
it
started.
It
was
like
a
25,000.
It
said
a
lot
of
years
ago
the
growth
factor
on
that's
very
small,
so
we're
really
only
like
29,000
now
and
I
believe
it's
been
8
or
10
years,
since
we
got
that
exemption
but
happy
to
put
that
together.
So
we
can
talk
to
the
local
delegation.
B
B
Grandkids
are
safe
and
everybody's,
taken
care
of
when
poor
communities,
whether
they
be
in
in
Candler
or
Leicester,
or
whether
they
be
in
Shiloh
or
wherever
they
are.
When
those
community
people
come
in
here
and
passionately,
ask
for
their
families
and
their
friends.
We
have
to
listen
to
that,
may
not
be
able
to
fund
all
that.
B
We
have
to
recognize
the
need,
and
hopefully
within
our
departments
we
go
there
first
and
challenge
them
to
do
a
really
really
good
job
and
improve
that
those
areas
and
help
more
people
there,
and
then
you
go
to
the
people
that
are
working
outside
of
you
know
the
County
Services
HHS
and
wherever
and
try
to
help
them.
This
is
a
difficulty
or
the
easy
thing
for
us
to
setup
here
is
that
the
tax
rate
comes
in
too
high
for
me
and
me
say:
no
just
vote
against
it.
That's
it
easy!
That's
easy.
B
B
That's
really
all
I've
got
to
say
tonight,
I'm
grateful
to
all
the
people
that
come
in
we're
going
to
have
additional
time
to
thank
dr.,
carine
and
I've
done
that,
probably
myself
and
just
a
wonderful
job
in
the
time
that
I've
been
able
to
be
here
to
confide
in
her
and
others
and
be
helpful
and
they
can
even
assist
and
I
appreciate
everybody.
That's
coming
here
tonight
and
said
thing,
those
that
work
for
the
county,
those
that
don't
work
for
the
county.
You
know
Jerry
Rice,
others.
B
N
B
A
A
It's
really
not
like.
Okay,
now,
all
right
other
comments
there
are
were
questions
this
time.
All
right,
I'll
just
make
a
couple.
Thank
you
to
dr.
Greene
and
all
the
staff
who
work
in
our
budget.
I
guess
I
would
just
I
would
just
say
that
I
share
Commissioner
belters
comments.
We've
got
some.
We've
got
some
any
other
comments
as
well
that
in
May
we've
got
some
very
tough
decisions
to
make
over
the
next
two
weeks.
A
We
want
to
support
the
core
services
of
the
county.
We
want
to
support
the
core
priorities
that
we
hear
from
the
community.
We
all
have
to
run
for
office
and
we
hear
people
talk
about
things
that
they
want
the
county
to
make
a
difference
in
and
so
and
there's
things
that
we
can
do
to
make
a
difference.
So
we
want
to.
We
want
to
address
them.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
partners,
a
lot
of
great
community
organizations
that
we
work
with
that
that
make
a
huge
impact.
A
We
need
to
make
decisions
on
that
public
safety
is
always
going
to
be
a
priority
and
we're
going
to
be
focused
on
that.
The
the
proposal
from
the
school
system,
of
course,
that's
always
going
to
be-
you
know,
receiving
our
highest
consideration
as
well,
so
we've
got
again
want
to
lower
the
tax.
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
I.
Think.
There's
all
seven
members
agree
that
we
would
like
to
lower
the
tax
rate
below
the
55.9
rate
that
was
proposed
in
the
in
the
earlier
drafts
of
the
budget.
A
The
question
is:
how
much
more
can
we
go
while
still
doing
the
things
we
want
to
do
and
I
think
we
got
to
think
about
not
just
this
year,
but
we
really
need
to
think
about
the
next
several
years
and
I.
Think
we,
because
really
just
12
months,
is
just
sort
of
almost
like
a
snapshot
for
the
county
we
need
to.
We
need
to
look
into
the
future
and
I
think
we
should.
A
We
should
try
to
set
a
tax
rate
that
is
as
low
as
we
can,
which
is
sustainable,
which
is
going
to
preserve
Duncan
counties,
triple-a
credit
rating,
which
is
which
is
not
a
given.
You
know,
there's
not
many
communities
around
the
state
that
have
that
in
it.
It
doesn't
just
sound
good.
It
saves
taxpayers
a
lot
of
money
when
we,
when
we
do
these
capital
projects,
so
we
I
think
we've
got
a
we've,
got
to
protect
the
triple-a,
credit
rating
and
and
I
what
said
I
would
agree.
I,
don't
think
getting
to
revenue.
A
Neutral
is
probably
realistic
in
the
cycle
as
much
as
I
would
love
for
us
to
do
that.
I
think
the
you
know
the
I
mean
the
new,
the
new
Health
and
Human
Services
Building
on
Cox
Avenue
aluminum.
That's
a
forty
seven
million
dollar
project
that
this
body
approved
and
that
project
alone
is
4.7,
4.7
million
dollars
of
annual
debt
service.
We
need
to
make
that
project
alone
makes
getting
to
revenue
neutral.
A
A
H
We
can't
do
that
to
in
a
way,
that's
reckless
when
we
think
about
next
year
in
the
year
after
that
and
year
after
that.
So
there's
no
formula
for
how
to
thread
the
needle
on
those
priorities
but
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
dialogue
happening
between
the
seven
of
us
and
County
staff
and
dr.
greens,
leadership
and
helping
us
try
to
find
an
answer
that
addresses
you
know
addressed
as
a
task
before
us.
Thank
you
all.
A
Right
all
right,
I
think
we're
that
covered
we're
done
with
this
for
the
evening,
but
to
be
continued
and
we've
got
a
couple
of
other
items
to
take
care
of
this
evening.
So,
let's
move
on
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
resolution
establishing
the
method
of
interfund
borrowing
for
solid
waste
capital
expenditures
and,
of
course
only
tim
flora
can
probably
explain.
S
Yet
to
take
on
that
topic,
I
would
probably
be
critical.
So
chairman
Newman
commissioners
tonight
I
bring
to
you
three
actions
for
the
solid
waste
program.
Solid
waste
also
be
known
as
the
landfill.
Just
as
a
reminder.
The
enterprise
solid
waste
is
an
enterprise
fund
which
mean
it
means
it
is
self-sufficient,
so
it
is
paid
for
solely
by
user
fees.
S
S
What
we
would
like
to
do
is
sell
fun
that
out
of
one
of
our
serve
funds,
which
basically
is
using
the
16
million
dollar
pot
of
money
that
we
have
setting
aside
to
pay
for
the
closure
post
closure
cost
to
close
the
landfill
we
like
to
use.
We
like
to
borrow
from
that
fund
and
then
pay
ourselves
back
over
the
course
of
the
years,
and
that
is
what
the
resolution
is
about,
that
you
have
on
the
agenda,
which
is
basically
a
resolution
which
sort
of
sets
the
parameters
for
us
to
borrow
those
funds.
S
Basically,
what
it
is
it,
but
it's
this
resolution
is
sort
of
also
creating
a
policy
moving
forward
to
make
sure
that,
when
we
do
borrow
from
that
reserve
fund
that
it
is
only
going
to
be
for
solid
waste
projects
and
only
specific
projects,
and
that
we
will
always
protect
the
the
integrity
of
that
reserve
fund.
So,
basically
how
it
works
is
we've
got
landfill
right
now
that
when
we
built
it,
it
sort
has
the
capacity
of
30
years
well
because
of
the
innovative
processes
that
we
have
at
the
landfill.
S
B
So,
and
that
is
on
the
capital
plan,
so
when
that
shows
up
on
a
capital
plan,
you
know
I'm
thinking,
you
know:
property
taxes,
I'm
thinking
that
type
of
debt,
so
it
gives
me
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
of
help
and
looking
at
a
capital
planning
and
hearing
this
so,
and
so
this
basically
says
that
we
will
that
that
process
is
acceptable
to
the
commissioners.
We
approve
that
process,
but
if
we
do
it
in
the
future,
you
have
it.
S
No
legal
enemy
than
I
they're,
actually,
three.
We
have
three
documents.
Three
actions
tonight
one
will
be
approving
the
project
ordinance,
which
is
the
is
the
project
ordinance,
creating
the
project,
the
8.2
million
dollar
project
and
transportation.
Then
we've
got
a
budget
amendment
which
is
basically
moving
the
money
from
the
reserve
fund
over
to
the
capital
projects
fund
right
and
then
the
other
is
the
actual
resolution
itself,
which
is
saying
this
is
how
we're
going
to
moving
forward.
B
B
S
In
the
resolution,
those
funds
can
only
be
used
for
solid
waste
project.
They
have
to
come
before
the
board
and
there
is
a
sort
of
a
formula
inside
that
resolution,
which
says
we
can
only
borrow
as
the
capacity
of
the
landfill
as
the
value
field
fills
up.
We
can
only
borrow
less
and
less
of
those
reserve
funds
right.
Okay,.
A
P
P
S
P
S
It
may
be
twenty
years
yeah
and
so
on.
One
of
the
other
one
of
the
benefits
from
this
is
that
we
don't
have
been
those
outside
debt
service
charges,
so
it
angular
would
be
charging
and
interest
rate
on
that
debt
and
the
the
landfill
would
be
or
solid
waste
would
be
paying
back
that
loan
on
an
annual
basis.
So.
L
S
A
Other
comment:
option
boy,
all
right
motion
on
the
table,
any
other
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
resolution
regarding
expansion
of
the
use
of
the
article
46
one
percent
sales
tax.
Dr.
green
will
present
the
resolution.
A
J
Chairman
and
commissioners,
when
we
pass
article
46
sales
tax,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
passed
a
resolution
restricting
that
the
use
of
that
fund
they're
dedicating
to
use
that
fund
to
a
BTech
construction.
We
are
asking
you
tonight
to
amend
that
resolution
and
help
us
expand
the
use
of
that
for
a
BTech,
and
we
would
extend
it
to
use
to
pay
for
both
operations
and
major
maintenance
based
on
this
final
approval
by
this
board
for
every
project
that
I
mean
for
all
expenditures
that
are
brought
forward.
I'll
talk
to
dr.
J
K
N
K
K
A
So
I'd
make
a
comment
on
that.
Commissioner
fryer,
so
I
think
that
I
think
I'm
gonna
agreement
with
you
about
what
you're
talking
about
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
as
we've
been
looking
at
the
a
BTech
campus
I,
think
we've
all
realized
I
think
a
BTech
has
as
well
that
they
need
to
really.
We
need
a
great.
A
We
need
to
really
get
a
high
quality
assessment
of
all
the
buildings
there,
so
we
make
sure
we're
taking
care
of
the
buildings
that
are
there
so
I'm
going
to
I'm
going
to
greement
with
you
just
from
a
procedural
standpoint,
I
kind
of
feel
like
that
some
was
kind
of
like
a
separate
I.
This
you
know
this
sales
tax
thing
is
kind
of
a
long
term
policy.
A
K
A
L
N
A
The
recommendation
that,
let's,
let's
take
this
because
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
consensus
item-
to
encourage
a
be
tagged
to
do
a
full
assessment
of
all
the
buildings,
make
sure
we're
taking
care
of
them.
Then
Greg.
What,
if
he's
willing
to
do
this
would
be
great
person
to
do
it.
I
think
we
all
know
that
that's
kind
of
I
mean
look
coming
on,
probably
the
consent
agenda.
Our
next
meeting
to
take
care
of
this
suggestion.
Can
you
can
you
accept
that
great,
very.
B
A
P
What
was
voted
on
was
the
tax
increase
for
construction,
so
now
we're
changing
that
tax
and
I
questioned
the
validity
of
that.
Furthermore,
I
think
you
should
have
a
time
limit
on
this,
that
it
comes
back
before
this
commission,
because
I'm
reminded
of
something
Jerry
Rice
said
many
many
many
many
many
years
ago,
he
said
you're
building
all
these
schools,
but
you're
forgetting
something
you
build
the
building
you're
going
to
have
to
maintain
it
so
where's
all
the
help
going
to
come
from
maintaining
it
and
I
think
in
the
interest
of
sustainability
and
self
sufficiency.
P
Doesn't
a
BTEC
have
courses
and
maintenance
and
repair?
Don't
they
have
courses
in
anything
like
that?
If
they
go,
maybe
they
should
be
looking
at
starting
a
course
do
they
have
a
course
in
how
to
clean
a
bathroom?
How
many
of
you
folks
have
gone
into
bathrooms
lately
and
looked
at
the
floor
on
the
tiles
when
using
found
library
and
most
of
those
jobs,
and
they
don't
know
what
clean
is
the
grout
in
the
tile
is
filthy,
so
maybe
they
ought
to
start
a
course
in
housekeeping
and
maintenance.
P
I
I've
not
heard
anyone
bring
up
the
amount
of
money
tonight
related
to
how
much
money
that
we
voted
on,
how
much
we've
spent
on
the
buildings
and
how
much
we
got
left
and
is
that
what
we're
talking
about
using
to
do
whatever
where's
this
money
coming
from,
is
just
new
money.
Or
is
this
the
bond
money
that
we
voted
on?
That's
a
bond
money
and
mr.
prysock,
you
said
we'd
already
over
spent
that
money.
I
My
point
here
is:
if
we're
not
there,
yet
we,
the
public
here,
don't
know
how
much
that
is,
but
here
you're
voting
on
a
resolution
to
do
something
and
add
stuff
to
it,
and
we
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
it'd
be
good
to
know
what
you're
talking
about
before
you
bring
it
up
to
vote
on
it.
You
certainly
want
to
educating
us
back
here
so
fully
vote
on
it.
How
about
giving
the
public
a
chance
to
understand
what
you're
doing
you're
into
smart
people,
but
I
can't
tell
that
if
you
don't
talk,
okay,
mr.
A
K
Well,
I
was
looking
at
this
is
when
it
went
looked
at
Billings
mission,
compressional
II
myself
went
over
and
looked
at
stuff
the
other
day
that
needs
fixed.
If
we
don't
fix
it,
then
that
means
another
building
and
I
agree.
Don
I
agree
both.
It
means
very
much
so
that
the
problem
is.
We
have
a
college
that
you
wouldn't
believe
those
things.
K
That's
happened
that,
over
that
college
that
needs
to
be
taken
care
of
we
build
new
buildings,
retire
buildings
down,
there's
buildings
that
need
to
be
tore
down
and
the
people
want
new
buildings,
we're
and
we're
closed
on
money.
But
one
thing
one
way:
I
looked
at
this
picture,
the
man
that
we
bury
dr.
green,
isn't
that,
like
a
20-year
deal
on
46,
but
the
last
going
to
look
at
it?
Probably
next
week
or
the
week
after
in
the
process,
is
we
have
money?
K
That's
going
in
it's
all
article
46
money,
and
if
we
can
do
these
projects
without
going
and
borrowing
money,
that's
what
I'd
like
to
see
tried
to
be
done
and
still
make
our
20-year
debt
deal
because
it's
going
to
be
around
and
you
can't
overdo
the
debt
and
the
money's
going
to
build
up
in
that
fund.
So
if
we
can
even
save
enough
money
to
say
I
put,
they
want
a
building,
we
can.
We
can
do
a
building,
but
I
want
to
honestly
want
to
try
to
get
it
as
pay-as-you-go.
K
K
K
K
If
we
put
the
right
person
in
place
that
can
save
us
money
like
he
did
this
top
layer
over
there
through
his
madness
people,
there
was
four
million
if
we
went
outside
and
handled
it
for
a
million
three,
so
I
creative
in
the
way
that
he
gets
stuff
done,
and
that's
that's
where
my
suggestion
is
put
him
in
place
so
that
we
can
save
every
nickel.
We
could
say-
and
you
know
and
I
think
the
job
of
you
well
done
so.
K
B
Just
real
quick
for
the
for
the
sake
of
clarity
for
those
out
there.
You
know
part
of
this
says
that
the
Board
of
Commissioners
have
asked,
say:
B,
Tech,
Community,
College
Board
of
Trustees
to
evaluate
needs.
Each
structure
on
the
campus
provide
a
comprehensive
facility
plan,
recognizing
that
such
plan
will
take
several
months
to
prepare
etcetera,
etcetera.
B
So
I
want
to
thank
the
board
for
their
stewardship
in
in
looking
at
this
and
making
sure
that
we
meet
the
needs
of
a
BTech,
and
then
we
made
it
in
a
very
practical
way
and
because
we
have
noticed
there
was
concerns
regarding
major
maintenance.
This
takes
that
off
the
table
allows
it
to
be
able
to
be
be
fixed
and
not
coming
to
us
every
year,
asking
for
X
number
of
dollars
to
do
that.
It's
it's
just
a
very
clear
way
and
there's
a
it's
spelled
out
very,
very
well
in
here
so,
but
I
have.
M
J
J
A
A
So
I
just
make
a
couple
of
remarks
and
I'll
ask
John
if
you
would
like
to
share
any
additional
details
on
this,
so
we
had
not
a
solar
project
on
the
County
Commission
agenda
at
the
last
meeting,
and
you
know
and
some
questions
and
concerns
were
raised
about.
You
know
the
process
that
we're
using
and-
and
there
was
support
Express
for
making
sure
there's
an
opportunity
for
any
company
that
would
want
to
cut
a
proposal
in
front
of
us,
for
this
project
would
have
an
opportunity
to
do
so.
A
So
that's,
basically
what
this
RFP
would
do.
So
this
would
invite
any
any
company
that
has
an
interest
in
partnering
with
the
county
on
this
to
send
us
their
qualifications
and
experience
and
and
talk
about
the
approach
they
would
take
to
working
with
the
county
on
this
project.
Basically,
with
the
approach
that,
as
we've
described
all
along
that
we're
looking
for
a
partner
to
basically
handle
the
development
process
as
well
as
the
financial
cost
of
that,
as
well
as
then,
actually
installing
and
operating
the
system.
So
that's
what
we're
asking
folks
to
do
and
John.
D
I
mean
I
think
you've
covered
it.
Obviously
we're
looking
for.
We
need
to
study
to
determine
how
many
acres
they
ever
use
the
megawatts
that
will
be
generated
and
the
substation
down
at
MSD.
It
has
a
capacity
and
okay,
so
that
will
limit
whatever
the
size
of
that
output
of
the
solar
farm
is,
and
then
it's
like
the
chairman
said
we
were
looking
for
qualifications.
I
mean
years
of
experience
of
doing
this.
Have
you
ever
done?
One
on
a
landfill?
Have
you
ever
done?
D
A
solar
farm
and
in
North
Carolina
have
gone
to
the
Utilities
Commission
here
and
the
people
that
that
are
in
charge
of
that
firm.
You
know,
what's
their
experience
and
who's
going
to
be
working
on
our
project,
just
like
we
would
for
an
architect
or
an
engineer,
so
I
think
that's
that's
kind
of
the
direction
that
we're
heading
and
you
know,
obviously
we're
looking
at
their
their
financing
their
debt
capacity.
Those
kind
of
things
so.
B
A
The
public
comment
in
a
minute
and
Jason,
if
you'd
like
to
add
or
or
correct
anything
I
say
but
I,
think
what
difficult
is
that
they
encourage
the
county
to
do
this,
because
they
want
everyone
to
feel
good
about
the
process.
I
think
the
Commission's
unanimously
supported
the
idea,
but
we
all
want
to
feel
good
about
how
we
get
to
that
to
the
to
the
project
being
done.
So
dick
is
encouraging
us
to
do
this,
and
but
has
also
said
that
the
proposal
they
have
put
forward
to
the
county.
A
P
P
A
lot
of
last
time
you
brought
it
up
I
want
to
congratulate
you
and
did
too
for
doing
a
resolution
asking
for
people
to
put
a
proposal
in
the
only
question
I
would
have.
Is
how
long
are
you
going
to
have
that
proposal
out
and
how
you're
going
to
recruit
people
to
bid
on
it?
Because
I
don't
think
anybody
can
probably
touch
Duke
on
this
deal,
because
they've
already
probably
looked
at
it
and
know
it's
viable,
but
you
know
so
that
the
public
feels
good
at
least
get
somebody
else
to
submit
one.
P
And
then
you
can
compare
apples
to
apples
and
if
they
don't
spell
out
what
Duke
does
in
their
detailed
proposal
about
some
of
the
questions
that
I
asked
in
the
paperwork
that
I
handed
you,
what
kind
of
knowledge
is
going
to
last?
What
are
you
going
to
do
when
you
have
to
turn
the
panels
down
how
you
going
to
maintain
the
condition
of
the
grass
at
the
landfill?
What
type
of
questions
should
be
considered
in
your
proposal,
and
you
probably
don't
but
I'd,
be
more
than
glad
to
help
you
evaluate
the
proposal.
P
If
there's
any
questions
that
you
failed
to
miss
because
I
do
have
a
background
in
environmental
systems,
engineering
and
I
meant
what
I
said
about
it,
we'll
put
they're
so
low
on
the
ground.
They
came
Oh
underneath
it
have
to
use
it.
We
did
it
with
a
man
bent
over
so
common
sense
sometimes
replaces
an
engineer
and
Roberts.
You
know
that
you
can
design
a
car
by
the
book,
but
you
have
to
make
final
touches
when
you
get
in
that
sucker
and
start
driving
it
don't
you.
I
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman
members
board,
you
know
gone,
they
don't
cost
you
nothing
to
get
advice
month.
You
know,
we've
got
consultants,
you
know
my
concerns
here
is
all
of
a
sudden.
Here,
come
Duke
in
the
big
balls.
You
know,
I
think
brownie
brought
them
in
and
it
probably
pretty
card
you
come
up,
didn't
have
a
clue
on
your
mind
what
the
heck
was
going
on
till
it
was.
You
know
till
we
started
asking
question
back
here
and
then
you
started
digging.
I
My
concern
is:
is
this
the
only
thing
that
even
thinking
about
putting
on
this
landfill
or
even
projected
out
to
people
and
say,
are
there
anything
else
out
there
that
might
be
more
viable
money-wise
to
me?
I,
don't
understand
this,
throwing
this
one
project
out
there
with
that
many
acres
of
land-
and
you
know
if
you
put
a
ball
field
at
Inc
out
there
on
the
landfill
on
the
name
of
God.
Can't
you
do
that
and
it
brings
in
a
lot
more
revenue.
I
What
you
talk
about
with
Duke
that
right,
though
you
got
it
now
joke
granted.
But
yes,
it
brings
in
a
lot
more
living
you
because
it
doesn't
been
projected
out
of
Inka
and
that's
a
little
place
that
they're
compared
to
what
you
got
down
there
now
think
about
it.
Are
you
really
doing
it
for
the
best
use
of
that
land?
A
F
Jase
well
I
can't
sitter
this
on
and
not
just
get
up
and
just
kind
of
confirm
or
affirm
that
the
Chairman
is
correct,
that
you
know
what
in
the
letter,
I
hope.
All
of
you
were
able
to
read
the
letter
that
we
shared
few
days
after
the
last
meeting
where
the
last
meeting
we
were
coming
with
an
expectation
of
celebrating
an
excitement,
and
we
quickly
realize
that
there
were
still
some
questions
that
folks
had
about
the
process
and
how
we
had
gotten
there.
The
company
was
not
brought
in
by
the
chairman.
K
A
A
A
A
at
326
room,
326,
tuner,
College
Street
in
downtown
Asheville.
We
do
have
a
closed
session
this
evening,
I'm
aware
that
we're
going
to
be
potentially
addressing
three
different
topics.
One
is
an
economic
development
project.
The
second
is
a
personal
consideration
that
is
related
to
the
search
process.
Looking
for
the
county,
a
new
county
manager
and
the
third
is
a
regarding
pay
legal
item.