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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Nov. 20, 2018)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' from Nov. 20, 2018. To view the agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
A
B
Thankful
for
what
we
try
to
do
here,
try
sometimes
it
works.
Sometimes
it
doesn't
but
I'm
thankful
for
the
people,
a
Buncombe
County,
all
the
people
without
y'all
we're
nothing.
You
know
we
try
to
listen.
Sometimes
we
make
mistakes.
Sometimes
everything
works
out
good,
but
the
fact
is
we're
here
for
you
or
I
am
for
you
and
for
the
people
that
work
for
Buckland
County,
the
1,500
employees
that
we
have
here
that
we're
very
proud
of
and
I'm
very
proud
of.
You
know
we're
losing
the
member
tonight.
A
B
Spent
too
much
time
there,
but
anyway
there
is
some
we've
had
our
ups,
we've
had
our
downs
from
different
parties,
but
we
tried
to
work
out
situations
through
the
years
and
six
years
is
a
long
time.
You
know
so,
but
she
has
made
a
decision
on
her
own
that
she's
gonna
walk
away.
We
have
a
new
board
member
coming
in,
but
you
know
we
all
got
to
be
thankful,
including
her
that
we've
we
have
and
are
having
the
opportunity
to
work
for
all
you.
B
This
is
the
fullest
I've
seen
this
room
in
a
long
time
and
that's
what
we
supposedly
should
have
it's
the
people
coming
to
us
and
telling
us
what
they're
looking
at
and
that's
you
know
when
we
have
staff
in
here.
They
can
hear
the
same
things
that
were
saying,
but
you
know,
God
knows
that
you
know
people
in
California
the
people
it's
lost
in
fires,
people
to
this
and
that
Buncombe
County
we've
had
some
rains
and
stuff
and
we've
had
some
rough
times,
but
we're
gonna
make
it
all
work
out
and
I.
B
C
Very
thankful
for
my
family
and
four
beautiful
grandchildren
that
that
is
part
of
why
I
want
to
be
a
county.
Commissioner,
is
a
look
for
the
future
of
Buncombe
County,
also
bringing
transparency
I'm
very
thankful
that
we're
going
to
bring
transparency
back
to
our
county
employees
and
let
them
spread
the
word
out
to
the
public
that
we
are
doing
the
best
that
we
can
and
last
I'm
thankful
that
I
get
to
do
this
four
more
years.
D
I'm
gonna
echo
what
my
two
colleagues
have
said
and
just
express
how
grateful
I
am
for
this
community
at
every
single
day
of
every
single
week,
I
get
to
hear
incredible
stories
from
across
our
community.
Last
week
there
was
a
chance
to
visit
some
County
Schools
and
just
see
the
extraordinary
work
happening
there.
I
think
each
of
us
could
probably
talk
for
hours
about
how
inspired
we
are
by
the
passion
and
creativity
and
big
heart
of
Buncombe.
D
D
But
what
came
to
my
mind
first
was
that
it
really
is
an
honor
everyday
to
serve
with
this
group
of
folks
and
learn
from
people
and
figure
out
what
it
means
to
be
friends
and
colleagues,
when
you
don't
agree
on
everything,
but
you
also
can
find
ways
to
degree
on
things
and
sometimes
be
surprised
by
that,
and
that's
a
pretty
great
feeling.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
also,
my
family's
growing
we're
having
twins
in
January.
D
A
A
A
E
I
want
to
try
to
echo
some
of
the
feelings
of
the
the
commissioners,
but
I
want
to
give
you
what
I'm
thankful
for
personally
and
then
I'll
share
with
you.
What
I'm
thankful
for
on
a
commission
level.
The
first
thing
I'm
thankful
for
is
my
relationship
with
my
Lord
and
my
Heavenly
Father
and
secondly,
he
has
my
my
bride
of
43
years
and
she
was
my
first
date
and
so
I'm
one
of
those
stories
where
I've
been
yeah.
F
E
So
I,
don't
know
how
you
know
he's
going
to
be
able
to
I,
don't
know
how
you
gonna
be
able
to
afford
all
those
grandbabies,
but
but
but
anyhow,
they're,
beautiful
and
I'm
very
grateful
and
blessed
to
serve
and
I'm
thankful
for
some
of
the
new
positions,
some
of
those
people
that
have
stepped
up
and
taken
positions
of
leadership
in
the
county.
You
know:
we've
met
some
new
ones
and
some
that
have
worked
here
for
a
while
of
stepping
into
positions.
E
You
know
and
I'm
grateful
for
for
their
leadership,
thankful
for
the
the
commissioners
that
I
served
with
of
in
six
years.
I
think
this.
This
is
the
fifth
makeup
of
the
board.
Maybe
fourth
and
the
current
board
that
we
are,
we
are
different
in
a
lot
of
ways
and
if
you
want
diversity
in
in
your
government,
you
got
it
right
here,
because
we
are
different,
but
we
come
to.
You
know
most
of
the
things
that
we
we
disagree
on.
E
We
haven't
agreed
on
everything,
but
she's
been
a
good
friend
and
she's
been
solid
in
in
that
friendship
and
her.
You
know
her
concern
for
my
children
and
grandchildren
and
I
appreciate
that
and
I
share
that,
with
with
her
and
I'm
grateful
for
the
time
that
I've
had
to
serve
with
her
too
so.
But
it's
good
to
see
a
roomful
and
it
is,
is
it
warm
in
here?
Isn't
me
it
is.
A
G
E
H
I
H
Been
recorded,
July
25th
1970,
it
remember
that,
but
I
am
for
my
family,
my
daughters,
two
daughters,
two
grandsons
three
grandsons
and
son-in-law.
So
it's
all
great
I'm
fortunate
there
with
the
family.
We
have
18
of
my
relatives
for
dinner
Thursday
and
the
only
thing
I'll
be
fixing
is
running
my
mouth.
So
you
know
it's
up
to
Shirley
Nagar
and
most
of
all,
I.
H
Think
too
I
want
to
thank
the
community
because
I
just
finished
up
my
first
two
years
on
the
commission
and
it's
really
been
a
pleasure
working
with
the
people
of
Buncombe
County,
not
only
in
my
district
but
all
over
the
county
and
I.
Think
for
me,
it's
like
reacquainting
myself
with
a
lot
of
old
friends,
because
a
lot
of
people
in
this
county,
former
customers
of
mine,
the
40
years
I
spent
in
banking
here.
H
You
know
I'll,
miss
that
part,
but
and
to
I,
want
to
thank
the
community,
and
especially
people
in
district
1,
for
giving
me
four
more
years
on
the
Commission
to
work
with
you,
even
though
some
say
it
was
appalled,
a
hard-fought
election.
It's
hard
for
me
to
say
that
it
was
nobody
running
against
me,
but
it
has
been
a
pleasure
this
last
two
years
and
I
look
forward
to
the
next
four
and.
A
So
we
want
to
express
our
thanks
to
you
Ellen
and
there's
going
to
be
a
reception
immediately
following
this
meeting
in
the
conference
room
right
out
the
store
and
we've
got
some
cake,
and
so,
if
you'd
like
to
stop
by
and
save
you
a
few
words
of
thanks
to
Commissioner
frost,
you
are
welcome
to
do
so.
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir
I
forgot.
B
H
B
B
F
D
We
wish
you'd
so
much
joy
in
this
next
chapter
and
your
presence
will
continue
to
be
felt
here
and
I
have
learned
a
great
deal
from
you
during
my
first
two
years
here.
So
I
hope
your
heart
will
be
full
this
evening
and
that
you
will
feel
the
appreciation
and
gratitude
here,
but
also
here
and
in
the
many
many
lives
that
have
been
touched
by
the
work
that
you've
helped
lead.
I.
I
But
there
are
many
things
that
we
agree
on.
We
agree
on
the
welfare
of
Buncombe
County
citizens,
but
we
have
a
unique
relationship
that
came
from
lots
of
talk,
lots
of
disagreement,
lots
of
agreement,
but
really
it
came
from
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect.
He
could
say
to
me:
what
do
you
think
about
this
and
I
could
say:
that's
crazy,
I
can't
go
for
that
and
he
stops
and
likewise
and
I
hope,
we've
done
that,
but
with
everybody
on
this
board,
you
know
it's
just
been
full
of
conversation.
I
I
mean
we're
doing
something
on
this
board.
That's
not
being
done
anywhere
we're
doing
bipartisan
work
when
I
think
of
the
bipartisan
votes
that
we've
had
the
Family
Justice
Center,
building,
three
schools,
Isaac
Coleman,
the
justice,
Resource
Center
and
I
could
go
on
and
on,
but
these
were
700
votes
and
they
didn't
come
by
chance.
They
came
from
lots
of
conversation,
deep
understanding
of
issues
and
lots
of
conversation,
and
everybody
on
this
board
puts
so
much
time
and
effort
and
conversation
and
Joe.
I
We
started
out
on
MSP
together
and
I'll
still
remember
the
big
truck.
But
it's
been
a
pleasure
of
my
life
and
my
granddaughter
is
a
junior
in
high
school
and
I
intend
to
spend
this
next
year
and
a
half
with
her
enjoying
her
my
business
and
most
I'm
grateful
for
them.
My
family
and
but
I
have
extraordinary
friends
that
have
become
family
and
what
this
Commission
has
done.
This
is
a
votes.
I
They've
had
is
made
it
so
that
everybody
in
Banton
County
is
beginning
to
feel
that
they
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
they
have
a
seat
and
speak
up
and
come
to
this
board
room
when
we've
had
full
board
rooms
like
this.
It's
to
advocate
yes
for
libraries,
yes
for
equity,
yes
for
jobs
and
I.
Think
it's
incredible!
This
place,
the
citizens
have
and
I
think
we're
so
lucky
to
be
in
a
community
where
citizens
care
so
deeply
so
keep
speaking
up
and
thank
you
again.
It's
been
a
tremendous
honor.
All.
K
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Everyone
all
right,
I'm,
gonna,
move
on
I'm,
gonna,
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board?
Today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty,
an
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters.
The
board
votes
on
this
evening.
A
A
Access
to
the
academic,
technical
and
workplace
skills
that
they
need
to
be
successful
and
whereas
miss
cheek
has
helped
tens
of
thousands
of
students,
experience
local
workplaces
through
students
at
work
manufacturing
week,
manufacturing
day
a
BTech
summer
camps
and
other
efforts,
and
whereas
miss
cheek
has
led
the
Student
Leadership
Academy
at
Biltmore,
which
has
allowed
thousands
of
students
in
our
region
to
experience
world-class
leadership,
training
and
whereas
miss
cheek
has
developed
close
relationships
with
businesses.
Large
and
small.
A
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
bunkum
as
follows:
that
November
30th
2018
B
and
hereby
be
proclaimed
as
Christie
cheek
day
in
Buncombe
County,
that
all
Buncombe
County
citizens
are
encouraged
to
recognize
the
many
contributions
of
Christie
cheek
to
our
students,
educators,
schools,
businesses
and
community,
and,
finally,
that
this
proclamation
be
effective
upon
its
date
of
adoption,
which
is
adopted.
The
20th
day
of
November
2018,
signed
by
myself,
brownie
Newman
on
behalf
of
all
the
Buncombe
County
Commissioners.
E
L
So
many
of
you
know
that
I
can't
get
through
things
without
crying.
So
I
just
have
to
understand
this.
My
passion,
you
ask
what
we're
thankful
for
I'm
thankful
that
we
had
the
opportunity
to
have
students
have
great
education,
Michael,
Tony,
I'm
thankful
for
colleagues,
I'm
thankful
for
our
board.
I'm
thankful
for
community
members,
I'm
thankful
that
we
had
the
opportunity
to
equalize
education
and
know
that
funding
county
students
are
gonna,
receive
quality
education.
L
That's
going
to
make
sure
our
economy
stay
strong
here
in
Boone
County
what
great
opportunities
to
connect
learning
in
the
classroom
with
our
community
corporations
and
businesses
and
make
it
come
to
life.
That's
what
education
is
about.
It's
about
Equalization!
Thank
you!
So
much
for
passing
early
childhood
education,
a
great
start
to
advancement
I.
Thank
you
all.
We
had
a
great
bus
ride.
It
was
phenomenal.
Your
pictures
are
glowing
as
always
never
forget
it.
I
have
a
heart
of
this.
L
It's
never
going
to
go
away,
but
I
too,
like
you
all
I
have
a
family
too
and
I'm.
So
things
with
them.
I
have
a
great
superintendent.
I
have
a
great
associate
superintendent
force
development
partner
that
keeps
me
going
and
going
and
going
and
nathan
has
as
much
energy
as
I
have
I
just
have
to
take
a
little
pause
on
my
energy
I
thank
Commissioner,
Belcher
and
Commissioner
Presley,
who,
when
I
called
them
they
asked
because
they
give
inspiration
to
our
children.
L
They
are
the
future
of
Buncombe
County
and
we
need
to
ensure
that
they
have
the
right
education
to
send
them
forward.
They
are
economic
vitality
for
this
community
and
we
know
it
so.
Thank
you
all
you've
been
so
supportive
and
I
so
appreciate
you
all
I
appreciate
you
all
and
I
just
think
everyone,
because
this
is
what
learning
is
about.
I,
learn
and
grow
every
day.
I
learn
from
you
all
I
learn
from
you
all
and
I.
Thank
you,
and
so
just
know.
L
E
M
M
Is
that
better?
Okay?
Commissioners,
we
appreciate
your
time
this
evening
in
giving
us
opportunity
to
come
and
speak
with
you
just
very
briefly
about
Adoption
Month
in
in
Buncombe
County.
We
wanted
to
just
present
a
few
slides
just
to
kind
of
bring
everybody's
attention
to
how
important
adoption
is
to
our
community
and
and
then
just
celebrate
some
of
our
staff
and
adoptive
families
that
have
come
this
evening
to
participate
in
this.
M
Unfortunately,
that
option
is
not
always
an
option
that
works
out,
and
so
we
are
forced
to
kind
of
start
to
look
at
other
options
for
children,
because
every
child
deserves
a
forever
family.
Every
child
deserves
a
permanent
placement
with
a
family,
and
so
when
reunification
is
no
longer
an
option,
we
start
to
look
at
what
the
best
permanent
plan
is
for
that
child.
M
An
adoption
is
really
our
go-to
option,
because
it's
the
most
permanent
option,
and
so
many
times
these
adoptions
are
with
family
members
with
grandparents,
aunts,
uncles,
cousins,
folks
that
these
children
are
connected
to
and
have
been
connected
to
for
their
for
their
most
of
their
lives
other
times.
These
adoptions
are
through
some
of
our
amazing
resource
or
foster
parents
that
we
have
in
this
county.
M
M
M
So
of
the
13
children
10
or
over
the
age
of
13,
and
then
the
ones
that
aren't
over
the
age
of
13
are
several
of
them
were
siblings
of
those
teenagers.
So
yes,
that
is
a
common
theme,
is
that
you
have
older
children
that
are
more
difficult,
it's
more
difficult
to
find
a
family,
the
right
fit
family
for
them.
M
The
remaining
28
children,
like
I,
said,
are
in
the
process
of
being
adopted
and
are
working
with
our
wonderful
adoption
unit
at
this
time
to
to
finalize
those
plans.
So
we
just
end
with
a
slide
to
just
highlight,
like
you
can
do
that
for
a
kid
like
just
trying
to
get
people
to
recognize
that,
even
if
they
can't
think
through
adoption
as
an
option
for
their
family
right
now.
Thinking
through
what
can
you
do
for
a
child?
That's
in
the
custody
of
our
county?
M
There
are
many
different
options,
including
like
sponsoring
for
Christmas
or
fostering
providing
respite
being
a
community
resource
volunteer,
which
is
an
option,
and
we
have
all
that
information
on
our
website.
So
I
just
highlight
that
to
say:
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
do
for
the
kiddos.
That
are
in
Buncombe
County
scuzz
today,
I'd
like
to
finish
this
evening
by
acknowledging
recognizing
our
program
manager
over
our
permanency
planning
unit.
Amber
Cooke
is
here
this
evening.
M
She
is
boots
on
the
ground,
making
this
happen
every
day,
and
then
we
have
several
folks
from
our
adoption
team
here
that
I'd
like
to
have
Stan.
We
have
susan
garland
who's,
the
supervisor
over
our
adoption
team,
and
then
we
have
Mary
Jones
and
Liz
Harr
and
they
work
directly
with
the
families
each
and
every
day
to
finalize
these
adoptions
and
to
make
sure
that
these
things
happen.
M
And
then
we
also
invited
a
couple
of
adoptive
parents
who
I
believe
are
here
this
evening:
I'm
not
quite
sure,
because
I
know,
there's
an
overflow
room,
but
Sara
Sperling
I
believe
is
here
who's
one
of
our
adoptive
parents
and
then
also
Jennifer
and
Curt,
Laura,
not
sure
if
they
were
able
to
make
it
out.
So.
M
A
This
collaborative
effort
will
focus
greater
attention
on
children
who
need
permanent
adoptive
families
and
honor
families
who
have
adopted
children.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
bunkum
as
follows:
that
the
month
of
November
2018
be
proclaimed,
Adoption
Awareness
Month
in
Buncombe
County.
A
That
excuse
me
that
all
citizens-
community
agencies,
religious
organizations,
businesses
and
others
be
encouraged
to
celebrate
adoption
in
honor
adoptive
families
by
increasing
their
awareness
of
the
issues
of
adoption,
of
helping
to
focus
attention
on
the
need
for
adoptive
parents
and
the
children
who
are
waiting
for
permanent
homes.
This
proclamation
will
be
effective
upon
its
adoption,
xx
and
November
2018,
signed
by
myself
on
behalf
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission.
So
thank
you
for
for
being
here
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
was
working
on
these
important
issues
in
our
community.
Thank.
E
So
chairman,
before
we
move
on
just
a
point
of
personal
privilege,
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
my
grandson
who's
adopted
AJ,
my
son
and
daughter-in-law,
who
adopted
image
in
child
birth
and
he
is
a
very
sweet
child
and
we're
grateful
for
the
up
for
that
opportunity
and
I
would
encourage
the
county
and
ere.
You
know
communications
department
and
to
maybe
tackle
the
need
of
we
got.
You
know
13
out
there
that
are
ready
for
home.
E
A
O
Evening,
commissioners,
this
is
an
item
that
comes
before
the
commission
from
time
to
time
whenever
a
deed
is
filed
in
the
wrong
County
or
in
Buncombe
County,
when
it
should
have
been
filed
in
another
County.
The
only
way
for
a
law
firm
to
get
their
money
back
is
to
properly
come
before
the
Commission
and
ask
for
a
refund.
That's
happened
in
this
case.
O
I
do
not
believe
there
is
a
representative
from
the
best
and
best
law
firm,
but
they
have
submitted
the
proper
documentation
and
showed
that
the
money
was
properly
paid
to
Haywood
County
and
the
deed
was
properly
re-recorded
in
Haywood
County.
After
being
recorded
an
area
here
in
Buncombe,
County
I
would
submit
their
documents
that
are
attached
to
the
resolution
as
proof
of
that
and
allowed
that
and
any
other
testimony
that
the
public
gives
to
serve
as
the
evidence
for
this
hearing.
Okay
and.
A
A
I
A
In
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Next
item
personnel
ordinance
amendment
on
the
sale
of
annual
leave
and
the
date
for
eligibility,
determination
for
longevity
pay
and
Michael
fruit
is
going
to
present
this
item.
This
is
an
item
that
the
Commission
has
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
already
discussing
at
several
recent
meetings,
but
we're
gonna
have
a
little
follow-up
on
it
right
now,.
I
P
At
all,
mr.
chairman
that,
commissioners,
several
months
ago,
in
recommendation
of
the
county
manager,
he
brought
before
the
board
of
benefits
packages
and
part
of
that
discussion
turned
to
annual
leave
and
twice
that
annual
leave
questions
come
back
before
the
board
in
on
October
16th.
This
board
voted
to
limit
the
sale
of
annual
leave
to
4
to
1.
Week
was
the
term
based
in
the
resolution,
which
is
a
40-hour
workweek.
We
have
worked
to
try
to
put
that
into
language,
and
this
is
a
public
hearing
on
that
matter.
P
Currently,
unlimited
amount
of
whatever
you've
accrued,
you
can
sell
it.
The
minimum
the
only
rule
was
a
minimum
of
8
hours
would
have
to
be
sold.
That's
just
to
prevent,
trying
to
come
in
and
sell
one
hour
on
a
Friday
afternoon
between
paychecks
or
something
of
that.
It's
always
been
eight
hours
of
minimum.
Now
just
to
read
through
the
recommendation
for
the
board
is
upon
approval.
The
department
director,
regular
employees,
may
convert
up
to
forty
hours
of
leave
to
cash
subject
to
the
following
conditions.
P
The
conversion
is
limited
to
a
maximum
of
40
hours
per
calendar
year.
A
minimum
of
8
annual
leave
hours
must
be
sold
in
any
one
transaction.
Each
regular
employee,
converting
annual
leave
must
shall
retain
a
balance
after
any
sale
of
at
least
40
annual
leave
hours
that
is,
leave
40
hours
in
the
bank
and
not
go
down
to
zero.
Any
requests
to
convert
any
will
leave.
P
Part
of
the
reason
we
picked
that
date
is
is
that
January
18th
is
two
weeks
before
February
1st
and
that
February
1st
would
be
a
pay
day.
So
we
want
to
keep
it
in
line
with
what's
currently
happening,
but
also
part
of
the
problem
with
drafting
this
was
to
take
into
account
the
limitations
for
dating
with
our
new
workday
finance
and
HR
system.
P
Work
day
is
calendar
driven,
so
we
can't
just
have
a
random
date
and
we
need
to
aim
to
make
all
our
anniversary
dates
for
these
purposes
of
January
1st
to
follow
a
calendar
year.
That'll
save
us
a
lot
of
money
on
the
back
end
because
to
make
conversions
on
the
custom
system,
it
would
cost
over
$10,000
each
time
you
try
to
make
a
change.
The
other
change
before
the
board
is
currently
there's
an
annual
leave
rollover
to
sick.
P
If
you
have
sick
leave
balance
that
counts
as
credible
service
at
the
time
of
your
retirement,
each
each
20
days
equals
one
month
of
sick
leave
by
States
Tachi
for
creditable
service.
So
if
a
person,
an
employee
by
policy
and
by
that
state
law,
accumulates
up
to
two
years
of
annual
leave,
we
picked
a
date
and
that
was
fairly
random.
Sometime
in
the
past,
the
February
1st
is
the
rollover
date
of
that
annual
leave
to
sick
leave
and
now
again
for
workday
purposes.
For
that
programming
and
to
to
make
it
work
more
fluidly.
P
A
We
do
need
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
this.
You
know
we
haven't
talked
about
this
quite
a
bit
previously,
but
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
hold
a
public
hearing
and
we'll
bring
it
back
so
I'm
gonna
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
553
p.m.
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
this
item?
I
A
Q
Q
I'll
get
that
about
the
time
I
leave,
I'll
figure
it
out
the
what
I'm
used
to
is
giving
an
orientation
session
to
all
community
elected
officials,
so
I've
met
with
our
management
staff
here,
put
it
in
the
hands
of
Cataldo
Peron.
Our
new
communications
director
and
Cataldo
has
put
together
a
an
orientation
session
for
mrs.
Edwards
and
we've
run
all
the
scheduling
by
her
and
our
department
heads.
Basically,
what
we
will
do
is
give
them
30
to
45
minutes
in
some
cases,
an
hour
hour
and
a
half
depending
on
the
different
locations
that
they
have.
Q
She
will
meet
with
the
department
head
at
their
location,
meet
some
of
their
key
people
and
then
get
a
briefing
on
what
all
they
do
in
that
department.
But
the
primary
reason
is
to
let
them
meet
put
a
name,
you
know
faces
with
names
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
also
just
to
get
a
good
overview
of
that.
So
we
hope
to
be
we'll
start
with
that
and
I
believe
December.
The
3rd
should
be
through
by
December
14.
Not
every
day
will
be
there
some
days
she
was
not
able
to
make.
Q
We
will
have
that
schedule
out
shortly.
I
wanted
to
make
an
open
invitation.
No
all
of
y'all
have
been
on
for
some
time,
but
if
you
would
like
to
do
that
or
just
certain
components
of
it
to
where
you
particularly
want
to
see
a
certain
department,
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
that,
and
you
know
we
would
certainly
welcome
your
participation
in
that.
Q
But
this
is
somewhat
unique
for
Buncombe
County,
but
it's
something
we
think
you
ought
to
do
every
two
years
when
you
get
new
board
members
on
that'll
be
followed
up
by
something
that
all
of
you
have
been
through,
and
that
is
the
newly
elected
official
school
at
the
University
of
North
Carolina
School
of
Government
puts
on
that'll
be
a
two-day
program
on
January,
17
and
18.
The
good
news
is
that,
while
it's
taught
in
Chapel
Hill,
they
always
do
a
session
in
Western
North
Carolina,
and
fortunately
they
do
that
in
Asheville.
Q
So
we
have
made
mrs.
Edwards
aware
that
and
Lamar
is
working
with
her
to
get
her
registered
for
that.
So,
basically,
by
the
middle
part
of
January,
we
will
have
given
her
a
local
orientation
and
she
will
also
have
that
orientation
from
the
School
of
Government,
so
I
think
she'd
be
off
to
a
great
start,
she's
very
enthusiastic
about
it.
So
we
look
forward
to
that.
Q
That's
the
main
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about,
and
then
the
planning
director
asked
me
to
let
you
know
that
while
this
will
be
on
our
meeting
date,
this
is
for
the
public
that
the
North
Carolina
d-o-t
will
be
holding
an
open
house
and
public
hearing
for
the
I
26
connector
project
on
Tuesday
December
4th
at
the
Renaissance
Hotel
in
downtown
Asheville.
The
open
house
will
take
place
from
4
to
6:30
p.m.
with
public
hearings,
starting
at
7:00
p.m.
Q
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Under
old
business,
we
have
consideration
of
a
motion
to
approve
a
resolution
adopting
a
new
procurement
manual
for
bunkin
County
in
Dustin
Clark
and
buck
Ron.
Venture
Ella
will
from
Finance
Department
will
present
this
item.
Like
some
of
the
other
items
we've
discussed
tonight.
This
is
an
item.
The
Commission
has
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
on
in
recent
meetings,
but
we
want
to
take
some
action
on
tonight.
R
Thank
You,
chairman
and
board
members,
so
we're
just
back
finishing
out
our
period
of
feedback
and
review.
We've
heard
some
comments
from
the
board
members
about
specifics.
In
the
manual
there
really
haven't
been
any
substantive
changes
to
the
manual.
So
from
our
point
of
view,
we're
ready
for
you
to
adopt
I,
think
there's
a
resolution
that's
been
drafted
so
unless
there's
any
more
feedback
that
you
have
for
us
tonight,
I
would
look
for
you
to
make
an
action
on
that
resolution.
When.
E
R
S
Q
Sees
I
just
like
to
make
a
couple
of
comments.
One
is
you'll
see
in
the
adopting
resolution
that
it
makes
it
clear
that
this
is
adopted
by
resolution
and
can
only
be
amended
by
resolution,
and
the
second
thing
is
that
it
applies
to
everybody
in
Buncombe
County
government,
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
the
manager
to
every
employee.
So
what
we're
doing
is
making
it
clear
is
you
set?
B
Talked
to
Ron
another,
they
have
that
distant
I've
looked
at
it
and
it's
38
pages
long
and
then
I
asked
him
to
look
at
the
state
and
it's
a
page
long,
so
we're
we're
stepping
over
board
in
minds.
You
know
we
all
understand
that
we
can't
go,
buy
gift
cards
anymore.
That's
one
thing:
that's
out
of
the
stream!
You
know
it's
been
a
bad
deal
for
quite
a
while
now,
but
to
put
a
38
page
thing
together.
B
Basically
stating
that
you
know
certain
people
from
0
to
$5,000
can
do
this
and
then
from
5,000
to
10,
and
that
goes
Department
Department
Department
there's
got
to
be
a
simpler
way
to
do
this
gentleman,
and
for
that
reason
you
know
I
want
to
look
at
simple
I
understand.
Everybody
in
this
county
is
probably
scared
for
their
jobs
if
they
do
something
wrong
with
their
P
Court
and
if
they
go
buy
a
gift
card
and
give
it
away
then
that
autist
automatically
should
be.
B
You
know
termination,
but
we
have
gift
cards
and
then
go
through
DSS
and
I.
Understand
that
you
know
so,
but
this
is
in
my
eyes
this
is
just
overboard.
I
talked
to
her
on
about
it
the
other
day,
I
think
he
understood
it.
We
looked
at
the
state,
it's
a
lot.
Smaller.
The
state
is
400
counties
not
for
just
one
and
that's
just
basically
what
I'm
looking
at
is.
B
We
need
to
regroup
and
back
down.
We
don't
need
14
in
a
committee
putting
stuff
together
that
some
of
us,
you
know
it's
it's
kind
of
hard
to
understand
or
just
trying
to
make
rules
that
we
don't
know
exactly
what
means.
So
that's
my
saying
on
this
and
I'll
probably
be
voting
against
it.
Thank
you.
So.
A
Question
there's
a
lot
of
mr.
wooden
or
either
view
gentleman
name
and
he'd
like
to
feel
this.
The
a
lot
of
the
purchasing
protocols
for
government
in
North
Carolina,
both
state
agencies
and
then
County
organizations
are
actually
driven
by
the
state
statutes,
or
at
least
they
set
minimum
thresholds
that
they
have
to
be
at
least
as
strong
as
that,
so
so
the
the
policies
that
we
would
put
in
place
here.
In
some
cases
they
are
stronger
than
the
state
policies
right
right.
A
Well,
I,
you
know,
I
would
just
say
you
know:
I,
certainly,
don't
think
we
need
to
make
things
more
complicated
than
they
need
to
be,
and
but
I
think
this
is
very
important.
I
mean
you
know,
kind
of
for
obvious
reasons,
I
mean
there
has
been
abuse
of
money,
and,
and
sometimes
it
was
done
in
ways
that
violated
our
our
ordinances
and
our
laws,
but
sometimes
it
was
done,
at
least
in
part,
in
ways
that
actually
were
not
in
violation
of
state
law.
A
You
know
the
there
are
certain
contracts
that
county
governments
can
in
can
enter
into
with
individuals
that
never
have
to
be.
You
know
they're
not
based
on
competitive
bid,
because
it's
just
based
on
qualifications
which
frankly,
is
highly
subjective
and
and
they
don't
have
to
be-
and
they
can
be
renewed
over
and
over
and
over
again
for
long
periods
of
time
and
so
I
think
that's
I
think
this
is
very
important
and
and
I'm
I
appreciate
the
work
that
went
into
it.
A
You
know
this
is
a
big
organization
and
spends
a
lot
of
public
resources
and
so
I
think
having
a
detailed
policy
on
how
which
contracts
can
be
approved
at
the
staff
level
and
which
ones
need
to
be
approved
in
an
open
public
meeting
just
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world
so
I'm,
very
supportive
of
it.
You.
F
H
Oh
48,
but
after
reading
it
I
understand
why,
because
we
have
15
over
1,500
employees,
and
we
have
an
obligation
to
employees
to
make
everything
that
the
way
we
hold
them
responsible
to
be
crystal
clear
and
I
think
we
do
it
in
the
procurement
manual
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
are
where
we
are
now
cleaning
up
the
mess
we're
trying
we're
cleaning
up
is
because
we
didn't
do
a
good
job
in
the
past
of
spelling
out.
This
is
what
you
are
held
responsible
for.
H
This
is
how
we
do
it,
because
until
we
put
it
in
writing
folks,
what
we
are
doing
is
that's
when
you
leave
it
to
individuals
to
stretch
that
rubberband
and
boom,
we're
back
where
we
are
when
it
breaks
so
I
think
this
is
we're
doing
it
the
right
way
and
to
have
employees
to
put
it
together
too.
It's
important
because
we
have
the
people
who
actually
work
with
it,
who
do
it
spelling
out,
you
know
how
we
hold
people
accountable.
So
for
that
reason,
I
can
not
do
anything
but
fall
for
it.
Oh
I'll.
I
Make
a
motion
to
approve
it
and
and
I
can
hear
what
everybody
is
saying,
but
hey
the
best
thing
about
this.
Is
it's
it's
an
employee,
Protection
Act
no
longer
can
somebody's
superior
tell
them
to
do
something,
and
this
is
spelled
out
and
they
have
protection
so
and
thank
you
for
that
and
I
agree
about
48
pages,
but
I
think
for
employees
benefit
I.
Think
it's
great
work
and
thank
you.
I
E
Is
there
a
second
second,
so
surrogates
comment
I'm,
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
a
different
position
or
maybe
paint
a
little
different
picture
than
some
of
my
colleagues
County
manager?
I
would
would
like
to
ask
you
from
a
from
an
execution
a
bit
of
normal
day
of
business?
Was
there
anything
in
here
that
gave
you
any
pause
that
those
that
are
that
they're
out
there
doing
daily
business
are
going
to
be
able
to
conduct
it
this?
The
way
they
have?
You
know
for
the
last
20
years,
I
think.
Q
H
Q
E
Think
thank
you
for
that.
Sir
I
do
agree
with
the
comments.
I
agree
with
my
you
know,
colleague,
Commissioner
fryer
about
you
know.
The
number
of
pages
48
pages
is
a
lot
and
it's
it's
very
complicated
I.
Don't
think
it
interrupts
business
I
think.
If
it
does,
then
then
we
would
fix
this,
but
my
different
take
that
I
was
going
on
is
that
is
that
this
is
not
personal.
This
is
paper,
that's
what
this
is.
This
is
a
document,
and
so
it's
not
something
that's
directed
to
towards
individuals.
It's
a
simple
procurement
policy.
E
It
address
things
from
losing
a
receipt.
How
do
you
deal
with
losing
a
receipt?
We
wouldn't
think
we
would
need
to
put
something
like
that
in
there,
but
it's
in
there
because
what
happens
if
you
lose
a
receipt?
It's
okay!
It's
it's
in
there!
You
know
what
happens
if
somebody
steps
out
of
bounds.
That's
in
there
there's
accountability
in
that
you
know.
There's
the
Commission
approval,
the
Commission's,
you
know
being
involved
more
it'll,
take
a
little
bit
more
time
and
that's
you
know
that's
you
know.
That's
that's
certainly
necessary
at
this
time.
E
The
thresholds
that
are
in
there
I
think
are
fine.
I,
don't
want
anything
to
interfere
with
normal
flow
of
business.
That's
why
I
asked
that's.
Why
I
asked
that
question?
You
know,
there's
good!
You
know
it's
about
audit
and
administration.
I
mean
that's
what
this
is.
It's
just
a
simple
policy
manual
that
has
been
refined
and
in
lieu
of
some
of
the
the
shortcomings
you
know
some
of
those
have
been
been
fixed
and
so
for
that
reason,
I'll
support
it.
G
I
said
here
not
listened
to
this
discussion
and
you
know,
what's
going
through
my
mind,
you
didn't
have
a
policy
and
the
board
at
that
time.
Couldn't
catch
what's
going
on
so
now
you
got
48
pages
to
keep
up
to
catch
somebody
doing
something
wrong,
so
you
know
who
is
going
to
make
it
work
if
it's
one
page
two
pages
three
pages
or
9,000
pages,
you
folks,
right
up
there,
it's
your
responsibility
to
see
that
those
49
pages
are
enforced.
G
So
I,
don't
care
what
you
say.
It's
up
to
you,
guys
sitting
up
there
and
I'll
say
guys
and
gals,
because
I
just
guys
mean
the
same
thing.
There's
no
difference.
I
just
heard
today
that
they
had
just
the
Vagina
Monologues
not
going
to
be
shown
in
the
more
university
of
virginia.
You
know
why
not
only
girls
are
not
the
only
ones
that
have
a
vagina.
U
My
name
is
Tim
Wallace
I
wasn't
going
to
comment
on
this
one,
but
I
think
I
will
because
I
think
48
pages
is
quite
good
and
I
especially
agree
with
Commissioner
Frost's
comment
about
protection
for
employees.
The
first
thing
I
did
when
I
moved
here
to
Asheville
was
split
apart.
The
responsibilities
of
the
people
on
the
staff
that
worked
at
the
company
I
was
at,
and
the
second
thing
I
did
was
fire
the
guy
in
New
York,
who
was
ripping
the
company
off
for
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
U
That's
the
kind
of
thing
this
policy
will
protect
against
because
it
probably
I,
unfortunately
didn't
read
it,
but
I'm
assuming
it
defines
what
accounting
does
it
defines
what
procurement
does
and
it
gives
protection
for
employees.
The
other
thing
we've
had
a
comment
of
1500
employees.
I
doubt
very
highly.
All
1500
will
have
to
even
look
at
this
manual.
Most
of
the
departments
have
a
centralized
purchasing.
That's
the
person
who's
going
to
have
to
know
it.
So
I
totally
agree
with
it
go
ahead
and
do
it.
A
T
A
I
H
E
Y'all
won't
been
wondering
while
we've
been
getting
along
so
well
up
here
tonight.
This
is
nice.
Water,
I,
don't
know
where
it
came
from,
but
somebody
put
that
up
here
tonight,
so
we
vote
we're
all
trying
to
be
really
really
nice
because
we
have
nice
we're
drinking
nice
water
up
here.
No,
no
joke!
Look
at
that!
Nice,
water
and.
A
Right
the
motion
is
approved.
Okay,
we
deferred
the
eligibility
separation
allowance
item.
So
we
come
next
to
consideration
of
a
motion
to
authorize
design
plan
specifications
and
bid
documents
for
the
East
Asheville
library
based
on
the
schematic
design.
Hinting.
Okay.
Sorry
please,
please,
please,
please
do
not
cheer
or
boo
anything
that
anybody
else
says
in
the
meeting,
whether
you
like
it
or
hate
it.
Just
you.
Everyone
gets
the
chance
to
speak
to
advertise
for
bids
for
this
project
and
George
wood
will
will
start
us
off.
Okay,.
Q
And
Jim's
gonna
chime
in
as
well.
Basically,
we've
been
working
on
this
project
for
several
years
and
where
we're
at
right
now
is
we
have
the
schematic
design
and
it's
on
the
schematic
design
is
where
you
show
what
the
exterior
of
the
building
will
look
like.
You
show
it
on
the
plat
of
land
and
show
the
parking
and
everything
and
then
the
third
component
of
that
is
the
interior
layout
or
the
floor
plan.
Q
So
that's
what
we
have
right
now
and
what
we're
about
tonight
is
to
ask
you
to
authorize
us
to
move
forward
with
with
what's
called
full
design
and
that's
where
we
would
authorize
the
architect
to
complete
the
detailed
plans.
You
know
the
foundation
plumbing
electrical,
all
the
walls,
everything
and
so
that
it
can
be
bid
out
and
they
would
do
the
plans
they
would
do
all
of
the
specifications
which
the
contractors
need
to
bid
the
job.
We
have
a
construction
manager
at
risk
on
this
job.
Q
Q
We
would
come
back
to
you
before
we
started
construction
and
you
would
authorize
that
contract
with
the
construction
manager
at
risk
and
included
in
that
would
be
the
firm
price
based
on
those
bids
and
also
based
on
the
construction
manager
at
risk
contract
that
Clint
will
negotiate
with
him.
So
that's
where
we're
at
another
issue.
One
of
the
main
issues
has
been
that
this
has
come
in
about
1.3
million,
more
than
an
initial
architectural
estimation
that
we
had,
we
reviewed
everything.
Q
It's
our
opinion
that
we
should
move
forward
on
this
library,
and
what
we're
proposing
is
is
that
you
use
1.3
million
dollars
of
fund
balance
as
I
reported
to
you
earlier
this
week.
We
understand
last
year's
budget
by
about
four
and
a
half
million
dollars,
so
the
money
is
there
and
we
would
propose
that
you
go
forward
with
it
and
with
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Jim
and
I.
Believe
you
have
some
comments
and
then
Jim
Blanton
yeah.
Mr.
V
Chairman
commissioners,
thank
you.
It's
a
great
opportunity
to
be
here
to
talk
about
the
east
asheville
library
branch.
As
mr.
wood
said,
this
has
been
a
project
that
we've
been
working
on
together
with
the
Commission
and
with
the
community
for
many
years,
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
able
to
to
bring
it
to
see
design
schematic
drawings
and
to
move
forward
with
this.
Hopefully,
and
just
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background.
I
want
to
just
to
give
you
some
lay
of
the
land.
V
Also,
there
is
a
playground
that
has,
it
is
used
a
lot
by
families
and
children
that
use
both
that
community,
as
well
as
that
library-
and
it's
been
a
big
draw,
if
you've
ever
been
to
that
library.
You've
seen
no
doubt
that
it's
almost
always
full.
It
has
the
fifth
highest
circulation
numbers
of
our
13
branches
that
we
have
in
the
county.
It
is
the
third
smallest
that
we
have
at
2700
square
feet.
So
it's
a
very
well
used
and
very
active
Branch
Library.
This
is
the
footprint
of
the
new
library.
V
It's
taking
exact
same
picture
and
looking
at
it
differently,
you'll
see
near
the
clock.
That's
the
existing
space,
where
the
fire
department
is
isse.
Actual
fire
department
is
new
parking
and
then
the
layout
of
the
new
library
and
that's
in
compliance
with
the
zoning
of
the
city
of
Asheville,
and
we
are
working
very
closely
with
the
planning
department
and
the
Zoning
Department
of
the
city
of
Asheville
to
assure
that.
V
It's
going
to
come
up
in
just
a
minute
and
talk
more
about
that
as
we
after
we
see
these
pictures
as
we
go
through
here,
so
if
I
can
get
it
to
move
to
the
next
slide,
there
we
go.
This
is
a
schematic
of
what
it
looks
like
what
it
will
look
like
and
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
this
is
not
something
that
we
just
came
up
with.
This
has
been
a
community
effort
at
the
last
meeting
that
we
had
where
we
look
to
the
community.
To
help
us
decide.
V
There's
lots
of
brick
there's
lots
of
glass,
which
is
a
more
contemporary
feel,
but
there's
also
a
more
of
a
bungalow
ranch
type
design
which
is
in
character
with
the
houses
and
the
community
there,
especially
where
the
library
is
located,
so
we're
just
going
through
the
different
views
of
the
library.
This
is
the
view
right
looking
at
Avon
Street,
if
you're
familiar
with
that
when
you
turn
left
on
off
of
Tunnel
Road
and
the
East
Asheville,
the
wit,
is
now
the
current
entrance
to
the
library.
This
is
that
road
that
passes
there.
V
This
is
looking
back
from
what
will
be
the
playground
looking
at
the
area
and
where
you're
looking
is
a
children's
activity,
room
and
children's
programming
area.
So
one
of
the
things
that
the
community
really
wanted
was
to
be
able
to
have
an
inside-outside
field
so
that
when
parents
are
in
there
with
their
children,
they
the
ability
to
look
both
inside
and
work
with
their
children
in
the
learning
activity,
but
also
to
look
at
their
children
outside
playing
just
another
view
and
I
would
point
out
the
the
the
red
figure
there
is.
S
V
That
so
grateful
that
we're
able
to
do
that
and
I
think
it
will
behold
a
place
of
prominence
there
again,
just
showing
more
of
what
the
roof
design
is.
If
you
look
in
the
upper
part,
that's
the
existing
fire
department
and
we
have,
as
I
said,
worked
very
closely
with
the
city
to
assure
that
all
the
fire
department
needs
are
met
that
there's
no
disruption
to
the
fire
department
as
well.
So
as
mr.
V
wood
said,
this
is
the
specific
request
that
we're
asking
you
tonight
to
do
to
approve
moving
forward
with
full
design,
plan,
specifications
and
construction
documents
based
on
the
schematic
design
for
the
East
Asheville
branch
library
on
the
existing
site
and
to
authorize
soliciting
bids
by
the
construction
manager
at
risk,
and
so
I,
if
I,
could
just
take
just
a
moment
and
introduce
Jim
Blanton.
Who
is
our
new
director
of
our
library
system?
Jim
comes
to
us
from
as
the
director
from
the
Louisville
free
Public
Library
in
Louisville.
V
F
F
F
The
plans
and
the
designs
right
away
and
I
was
just
thrilled
that
this
project
was
imminent
and
so
I
had
a
chance
to
review
those
and
also
meet
with
the
design
team
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
them
and
I
think
what
Jim
was
interested
in
hearing
it
was
my
perspective
on.
Are
the
plans
on
target
with
what
we
would
expect
in
a
library
for
this
community
and
I?
Think
the
answer
to
that
is
yes,
when
you
look
at
libraries
moving
forward
they're,
really
hubs
of
lifelong
learning
and
community
engagement.
F
So
you
want
certain
programmatic
elements
to
be
incorporated
in
those
and
this
floor
planning
incorporates
everything
I
would
expect
to
see,
and
in
a
in
a
footprint
that
I
would
also
expect
for
a
community
of
this
size
that
has
a
programming
space,
which
is
really
important.
Obviously,
I
remember
when
I
before
I
actually
interviewed
for
the
job
I.
True
the
system
and
this
library
stuck
out
in
particular
because
it
was
so
busy
when
I
was
there.
F
In
fact,
they
were
having
a
children's
program
that
day-
and
there
was
a
sign
up
saying,
be:
beware:
there's
going
to
be
noisy
children
in
here,
and
so
you
really
want
to
dedicate
space
so
that
those
kinds
of
activities
can
take
place
while
other
functions
can
take
place
too,
and
I
think
that
this
design
definitely
checks
that
box.
There
is
a
large
community
programming
space
and
there's
also
an
area
in
the
children's
area
as
well
for
our
activities.
F
You
also
have
a
dedicated
teen
area,
which
also
is
important
to
serve
that
group
as
well,
and
then
you
have
a
really
nice
sized
area
for
adult
collections.
There's
also
a
cafe
built
into
this
design,
which
is
interesting
and
we
were
working
on.
A
cafe
in
a
library
was
building
just
before
I
left
Louisville
and
we'll
certainly
look
at
that
closely
as
we
move
forward
with
the
design.
But
that
kind
of
speaks
to
that.
F
Bringing
the
community
in
to
have
a
really
exciting
experience
when
you
come
in,
that
encourages
you
to
stay
and
enjoy
the
space
not
just
come
and
check
out
a
book
and
go
to,
but
really
to
be
there
and
engage
and
learn
on
site.
So
I
really
I'm
excited
by
the
design.
I'm
also
excited
by
the
fact
that
the
community
was
so
engaged
in
the
process
for
developing
the
building,
particularly
making
sure
that
it
reflects
the
community
of
which
it
is
a
part
it's
contemporary.
F
But
it
also
reflects
the
look
and
feel
of
the
neighborhood
as
well.
So
I
mean
I
couldn't
be
more
excited
to
be
a
part
of
the
project
and
I'm.
Looking
forward
to
talking
with
a
design
team,
more
and
kind
of
fleshing
out
what
happens
inside
the
building,
as
well
as
outside
some
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
just
again
excited
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
me.
I
I'd
like
to
comment
and
say
thank
Jim
for
an
extraordinary
effort
of
community
collaboration
and
also
personally,
thank
you
for
all
the
mentorship
you've.
Given
me
over
the
many
years
that
we
have
worked
together,
and
this
is
long
overdue.
As
a
community
when
I,
Joe
and
I
were
talking
when
we
first
got
on
the
Commission
six
years
ago,
this
library
was
on
the
Capitol
plan
and
I
think
the
community
for
being
patient,
urgent
and
sometimes
pushy,
because
that's
what
it
took
to
keep
getting
everybody's
attention.
I
A
D
H
Embarrassing
yeah
yeah.
What
I
would
like
to
say
is
that
I'm
glad
to
see,
because
when
I
started
working
early
on
in
banking
in
the
late
70s,
my
first
branch
was
a
tea
satchel,
which
is
where
SunTrust
is
now
the
first
Union
and
I
would
visit
the
library
some
to
read:
The
Wall,
Street,
Journal
and
even
back,
then
the
library
was
busy.
H
C
H
E
E
E
E
A
Right
we
will
take
public
comment
in
just
a
minute.
I
will
just
share
my
comments
on
this
I
think
it
has
been
a
great
process.
A
The
community
has
been
just
not
just
a
great
doing
a
great
job
advocating
for
the
need
for
the
for
a
project,
but
just
really
creative,
constructive
input
on
what
that
project
should
look
like
and
I
think
it's
resulted
in
a
in
a
great
a
you
know:
what's
going
to
be
a
great
project
and
so
I'm
excited
about
it,
it's
going
to
be
a
great
community
space,
in
addition
to
some
of
the
more
traditional
functions
of
our
library
system.
So
it's
and
it's
gonna
be
great
for
those
neighborhoods.
A
It's
really
that
whole
part
of
the
county-
it's
gonna,
be
really
kind
of
a
regional
facility
in
a
lot
of
ways,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
it
and
and
looking
forward
to
seeing
it
open
in
the
near
future.
So
so
we
will
take
public
comment.
I
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
folks
have
comments.
I
think
this
is
this
is
going
to
go
forward,
but
we
will.
We
will
open
it
for
public
comment.
Yes,
sir
I'm.
B
B
W
Hello,
my
name
is
Amy
chilsen
I'm,
a
teacher
and
educational
program
coordinator
at
Biltmore,
I
come
from
a
family
of
writers
and
readers.
I
am
one
of
seven
children
and
I
have
a
sister
who
is
a
librarian,
and
when
there
were
only
four
children
left
at
home,
my
mother
decided
that
she
had
too
much
time
on
her
hands,
so
she
became
a
middle
school
librarian
for
the
next
25
years.
So
libraries
are
very
close
to
my
heart
when
I
moved
to
Asheville
from
the
Adirondack
Mountains
eleven
years
ago.
W
The
first
thing
I
did
was
get
my
library
card
and
joined
the
East
Asheville
book
club.
Now
we
have
over
25
members
in
our
book
club,
which
is
a
wonderful
thing,
but
if
we
all
come
at
the
same
time,
it
is
a
very
big
crunch.
We
meet
in
the
children's
section
of
the
library
we
sit
on
child
sized
chairs
around
a
small
table
when
a
child
wants
a
book
she
has
to
squeeze
in
among
us
to
reach
it.
Occasionally
we
have
a
local
author
come
and
tell
us
about
his
latest
work.
W
We
can
fit
30
chairs
in
only
by
pushing
all
the
tables
to
one
side.
I
would
like
to
think
I
would
like
you
to
think
of
this
new
space,
not
as
a
library
with
a
variety
of
dedicated
rooms,
but
as
a
community
space
we
live
in
divisive
times.
It
would
be
great
if
we
could
build
a
building
that
promoted
together,
Nuss
that
really
strengthened
our
community
I'd.
W
Like
you
to
imagine
a
multi-use
building
where
a
mother
can
bring
her
preschoolers
to
listen
to
a
book
about
her
miss
George
at
storytime,
then
they
will
go
to
the
makers
room
to
create
monkey
puppets
out.
Then
they
will
run
outside
to
become
monkeys
on
the
playground
swings.
At
the
same
time,
in
one
of
the
small
community
rooms,
there
is
a
lecture
about
collecting
wild,
edible
mushrooms
in
another
community
room.
There
was
a
there
is
a
presentation
by
a
Nashville
artist.
W
Local
veterans
have
come
to
use
the
computers
to
check
their
email
and
read
the
paper.
A
group
of
seniors
have
come
to
have
tea
in
the
cafe
before
they
spend
a
couple
of
hours.
Reading
by
the
sunny
library
windows,
some
middle
school
students
are
meeting
in
one
of
the
study
rooms
to
go
over
a
class
project.
In
the
evening,
those
small
community
rooms
will
become
one
large
room
for
a
contra
dance,
a
concert,
a
book
club
meeting,
a
meeting
about
the
local
bear
problem,
a
talk
by
a
local
author.
W
K
Kind
of
thank
you
and
good
evening,
I'm
a
resident,
Hawk,
Creek,
and
also
it
come
out
the
construction
area.
Now
what
you're
approving
tonight
as
I
understand
it
is
to
go
to
the
stage
of
putting
out
an
RFP
on
an
actual,
so
you
can
go
and
solicit
bids
for
the
actual
building
of
the
library
design
is
the
exciting
part.
It's
really
fun.
You
put
it
together.
Lots
of
color
lots
of
items
going
up
getting
it
done
is
the
hard
part,
and
we've
recently
had
a
diversion
of
funds
from
that
were
specified
out
of
tax
dollars.
K
That
was
going
to
go
to
a
specific
project
and
they
were
taken
away
from
that
project
and
put
it
into
the
general
fund
I'm,
just
bringing
up
the
item
of
not
what
you're
approving
tonight
but
farther
down
the
road.
When
we
get
to
the
point
of
do
we
have
the
money
to
construct
what
we've
designed
and
so
I'm
asking
to
that
be
taken
into
consideration
seriously,
because
it
would
leave
us
with
what
we
have
now.
If
the
money
is
not
there
to
make
it
happen
after
you've,
designed
it
and
put
it
out
for
bid.
X
Hi,
my
name
is
Leila
Palladino
and
I'm
14
and
I
attend
Evergreen,
Community,
Charter
School
I've
been
going
to
this
library
for
about
a
decade
and
I'm
a
card-carrying
member
of
it,
and
this
would
open
up
so
much
more
opportunities
like
the
celebrity
is
great
on
its
own.
You
know
it's
very
tight,
come
tight,
close
knit
or
whatever
and
like
we
get
to.
You
know
be
around
each
other
more.
X
It
would
just
be
more
like
just
better
I
guess
and
like
there's
this
little
aisle
in
the
teen
young
adult
section,
and
it's
super
super
small
and
like
if
you
have
to
look
for
a
book
you
have
to
like
squat
down
or
whatever,
and
somebody
might
have
to
come
by
use
like
skis,
and
you
can
I
get
around
you
and
obviously
there's
nothing
wrong
with
having
to
stand
up
and
move
out
of
somebody's
way.
But,
like
you
know,
it'd
just
be
nice
to
have.
X
You
know
spot
where
you
don't
have
to
get
out
of
somebody's
way
or
be
in
somebody's
wearing.
You
can
look
at
all
of
these
wonderful
books
and
just
really
get
to
just
see
what
your
options
are
and
not
just
you
know,
be
this
tight
little
corner
or
whatever
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
in
advance
for
this,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
All.
A
S
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
your
consideration
of
this
vital
change
of
life
for
in
East
Asheville
for
its
many
neighborhoods
from
Kenilworth
to
Chun's
Cove.
You
know
you've
run
out
of
space
when
people
my
size
have
to
reach
up
here
to
get
a
book
off.
The
top
shelf.
You've
run
out
of
space
when
the
library
friends
board
meets
in
the
8
by
10
alcove.
S
They
mentioned
early
in
the
children's
area,
while
parents
reach
around
you
to
pull
off
books
for
their
children,
you've
run
out
of
space
when
you
stick
a
six-foot
table
in
the
middle
of
where
people
pass
right
by
right,
beside
you
to
go
to
the
computer
six
feet
away
or
to
get
the
will
call
books
or
the
history
collection
or
the
magazines
or
the
newspapers,
and
yet
there's
a
sign
on
that
table
that
says
quiet,
study,
space
completed
in
1966,
East
Asheville
library
is
53
plus
years
old.
It
is
old,
it
has
shrunk.
S
The
city
was
allowed
to
take
half
the
space
for
an
office
which
has
shut
many
neighborhoods
of
any
meeting
space.
Where
were
not
for
the
grace
of
our
community
churches,
its
outdoor
toilets,
make
it
a
laughingstock,
its
parking
spaces
are
extremely
limited,
and
about
half
are
now
illegal.
The
building
is
unwelcoming
and
certainly
unbecoming
to
some
of
a
schvitz
most
special
and
attractive
neighborhoods.
S
We
are
grateful
that
you've
exciting
new
leader
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
him,
but
now
give
him
something
to
work
with,
as
you
sound
like
you're
going
to
and
we're
just
so
excited
about
that.
The
building
and
the
upgrades
in
the
whole
system
expand
your
future
of
county
income
tax
ash
billions
are
an
intelligent
line
and
they
need
books,
new
books
and
nuts
on
7-foot,
shelving
DVDs
and
stimulating
programs
and
places
where
they
can
communicate
with
each
other
and
build
that
community.
S
G
I
have
a
serious
question:
brownie
as
you
look
as
I.
Looked
at
that
building
I
see
a
lot
of
roof
area.
Is
the
orientation
and
could
that
Ruth
be
modified
for
solar
energy?
There's
a
lot
of
space
there
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
trees.
I,
don't
think
around
that
area.
I
don't
know,
but
that's
something
I
would
like
to
see
checked
out
before
you
do
the
final
design.
G
That's
something
an
architect
or
engineer
could
check
real
quick
with
you,
because
you
can
give
them
the
details
as
needed
for
the
angle
and
that
would
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
maintenance
of
the
library.
Now,
speaking
of
the
maintenance
of
the
library,
I'm
very
glad
to
meet
the
new
director
of
the
library
and
I
hope
he
and
the
seven
commissioners
up
there
get
just
as
much
of
a
burn
in
your
heart
for
finding
out
how
much
it
costs
to
run.
G
Each
library
I
asked
that
question
of
the
previous
generation
and
even
the
previous
generation
agreed
that
that
was
a
wonderful
question
and
we
do
not
know
what
it
cost
to
run
each
library
that
is
part
of
the
problem
of
not
being
able
to
address
the
needs
of
the
library.
Thank
you.
This
one's
ranked
number
five
and
I've
looked
at
the
book
usage.
So
I
think
this
is
something
you
need
to
get
a
burr
under
your
saddle,
for
you
need
your
new
director
to
lay
out
a
plan.
G
Where
he's
going
to
allocate
maintenance
cost,
he
can
allocate
everything
it's
done
to
each
library
and
then
each
community
can
know
what
kind
of
money
is
going
to
their
community
and
if
it
costs
five
million
to
build
this
guess
what
it
does.
But
you
can't
know
what
you
got
if
you
don't
know
what
you're
doing.
T
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
aboard
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
this
thing,
a
little
bigger
a
little
better.
That's
been
talked
about
for
years
about
our
public
libraries
and
the
expense
of
this
is
on
the
taxpayers
back
and
it's
in
the
current
expense
money
in
the
operation
of
it.
We
need
to
be
looking
at
the
school
buildings
that
has
the
libraries
in
them
and
see
how
we
can
have
community.
We've
already
got
the
community
schools
in
the
community
in
the
districts.
T
So
why
can
we
not
look
at
the
libraries
within
the
school
building
which
is
being
shrunk
in
many
ways
because
of
not
much
uses?
They
should
be.
Why
don't
we
look
at
that?
I
mean
building
these
buildings
are
getting
more
expensive
and,
yes,
you
do
have
community,
but
what
about
the
community
in
each
of
our
school
districts?
So
I'd
like
for
somebody
to
follow
up
with
that,
because
it's
been
talked
about.
It's
been
great
ideas
in
the
past,
but
nobody
has
followed
through
on
the
commission
to
make
sure
that
happened.
T
U
Well,
I've
made
it
a
point
to
go
to
the
library
board
meetings
and
this
past
Thursday.
The
discussion
at
the
library
board
meeting
was
that
all
we
had
was
a
floor
plan
and
then
I
see
this
wonderful,
drawing.
That's
really
spectacular.
I
love
all
the
lighting,
all
the
natural
light
that
will
be
going
into
the
building.
So
it's
a
totally
different
meeting
here
than
what
I
expected
I'm
very
pleased
with
that
I
just
like
to
know
what
the
total
building
cost
is
going
to
be.
U
I've
heard
that
it's
1.3
million
more
than
what
we
expected
so
just
be
nice
to
know.
Back
in
2015,
we
had
allocated
three
million
dollars
each
for
an
East
expansion
and
an
anchor
Candler
expansion
in
2016.
The
anchor
canler
went
down
to
five
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
so
I'm
just
wondering
also
ANCA
canler's
under
construction
right
now
and
I
liked
Commissioner
Belcher's
comment
about
the
park
over
there
and
the
six
million
dollars.
Do
we
know
what's
going
on
at
Inca
Candler?
Do
we
have
final
drawings?
U
Do
we
have
the
community
involvement
that
we
obviously
had
here
for
East?
Those
are
just
questions.
I
have
for
that
library
as
well
and
I'm,
just
very
happy
to
see
we
are
having
the
the
expansion
and,
once
again,
I
agree
with
Commissioner
frost
that
far
too
often
the
libraries
get
put
on
the
back
burner.
We
had
a
library
commissioned
years
ago,
where
three
and
a
half
cents
of
our
taxes
went
to
that
Library
Commission.
U
A
Thank
you
all
right.
We're
gonna
bring
it
back
to
the
Commission
for
further
discussion.
There
is
a
motion,
and
a
second
excuse
me
to
authorize
full
design
plan
specifications
and
contract
bid
documents
for
the
East
Asheville
branch
library
based
on
the
schematic
design
and
to
authorize
the
CMA
are
to
advertise
for
bids.
E
Got
a
couple
comments:
you
know
that
I'm
for
the
our
library
director,
you
know
annual
report
or
quarterly
reporting
or
something
that
answers
some
of
the
questions,
probably
on
a
bad
idea
and
the
question
about
link
a
candle,
a
library.
We
actually
talked
about
that.
You
know
today
and
that's
it's
moving
forward,
though,
for
those
those
those
comments
but
I'm
happy
to
support
the
motion.
E
A
All
right
all
right,
thanks
everyone
for
coming
out
for
this
and
for
your
involvement
in
it.
We're
gonna
we're
gonna,
keep
on
go,
and
so
please
please
try
to
keep
your
voice
down
as
we're
gonna
keep
going
to
the
next
meeting
an
agenda
item.
Okay.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
motion
to
approve
a
resolution
adopting
a
new
personnel
position.
Classification
in
pay
plan
and
George
is
going
to
start
us
off
on
this
on
this
item.
Okay,.
H
Q
Q
We
had
that
consultant,
make
a
presentation
to
you
in
August
on
the
methodology
used
to
perform
the
study
and
the
consultant
is
Miss
Nancy
Berkeley
she
sitted
sitting
next
to
Margaret,
so
she
is
here
tonight
not
to
make
a
presentation,
because
she
pretty
much
made
that
to
you
in
August.
But
if
you
have
any
questions
between
she
and
I
and
Margaret
will
be
happy
to
answer
those
so
enclosed
as
a
copy
of
the
full
study
which
details
the
counties
and
cities
in
North
Carolina
that
were
used
as
benchmarks
to
compare
salary
and
wage
levels.
Q
Please
note
also
that
mission
health
may
heck
and
UNC
Asheville
were
also
included.
The
complete
list
is
on
page
42
of
the
study
for
to
the
study
of
comfortable
governments
and
the
other
three
showed
that
the
minimum,
in
other
words
the
beginning
step
of
each
grade
in
Buncombe,
County
salaries
and
wages,
averaged
9%
higher.
Please
note
that
this
comparison
was
made
after
adjusting
for
the
relative
cost
of
living
in
each
jurisdiction,
so
the
higher
cost
of
living
in
Buncombe
County
relative
to
a
number
of
those
other
counties
already
has
been
factored
in.
Q
The
midpoint
for
salaries
and
wages
averaged
5.1
percent
higher
and
the
maximum
point
for
them
averaged
2.7
percent
higher
than
the
comparable
entities,
while
that
is
on
average.
There
are
some
special
positions
that
were
determined
to
be
lower
than
the
market,
and
the
plan
calls
for
them
to
be
taken
to
a
higher
grade.
There
are
92
employees
in
this
category
and
the
resulting
cost
to
the
county
will
be
a
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
four
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
that's
to
get
them
onto
the
plan.
Q
It
likes
to
be
a
little
higher
because
of
fringe
benefits
that
are
tied
to
salary.
The
study
recommends
to
keep
the
plan
current
with
changing
market
conditions,
that
the
human
resources
department
conducts
small
scale
salary
surveys
as
needed
for
hard
to
fill
positions
are
those
experiencing
above
average
turnover,
and
this
is
standard
practice.
Q
So
as
we
go
through
the
ensuing
years,
if
you
start
having
a
turnover
problem
in
a
specific
area,
you're,
probably
below
market-
and
you
need
to
do
a
study
on
that
specific
job
classification
that
can
also
be
where
you
have
hard
to
fill
positions.
You
may
not
be
compensating
enough
to
attract
adequate
candidates
for
that.
They
then
recommend
that
you
conduct
a
new
pay
plan
every
three
to
five
years.
In
my
experience,
every
five
years
is
sufficient.
Q
If
you
conduct
the
small
scale
surveys
recommended
above
so
you
would
put
the
new
pay
plan
in
you
go
four
years,
and
then
you
have
another
pay
plan
done
during
those
four
years.
Your
HR
director
would
be
studying
the
turnover
problems.
Your
department
heads
would
be
reporting
where
they're
having
issues
and
then
you
would
do
those
small
scale
surveys
to
keep
it
current.
Q
It's
important
to
note
that
these
pay
studies
cost
nearly
$75,000.
So
you
want
to
do
them
in
a
timely
manner,
but
you
don't
want
to
do
them
before
you
have
to
do
because
of
the
cost.
So
the
recommendation
is
to
place
every
employee
within
the
appropriate
grade.
At
least
four
point.
Five
percent
higher
than
the
minimum
point,
and
the
reason
for
that
is,
is
that
newly
hired
employees
and
those
that
are
promoted
to
new
positions
are
eligible
for
up
to
a
four
point:
five
percent
increase
when
they
successfully
complete
a
six-month
probationary
period.
Q
Q
Customary
practice
is
to
adopt
those
administratively,
so
the
Board
of
Commissioners
does
not
have
to
approve
minor
changes
to
those
and
that's
what
we're
recommending
to
you
is
is
that
we
will
do
those
administrative
Lea,
however,
to
ensure
that
the
plan
remains
intact.
The
adopting
resolution
calls
for
any
job
description,
changes
sought
by
a
department
head
to
be
approved
by
both
the
Human
Resources
Director
and
the
county
manager.
So
there
is
a
review
process
for
this
in
order
to
maintain
the
plans
integrity.
Q
No
one
can
change
a
position
title
or
the
assigned
grade
are
at
a
new
position
to
the
plan
without
a
written
resolution
approved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
That
assures
that
you,
as
the
governing
body,
know
any
changes
before
hand
and
have
approved
them.
For
example,
if
staff
requested
a
change
in
assigned
grade
from
a
position
from
grade
75
grade
77,
you
should
be
given
a
cover
memo
explaining
the
reason
and
the
resolution
for
adoption
by
you
that
specifically
authorizes
the
grade
change.
Q
This
is
an
internal
control
mechanism
that
needs
to
be
followed,
and
the
adopting
resolution
contains
that
provision.
The
resolution
also
calls
for
the
HR
Director
to
maintain
a
current
copy
of
the
plan
and
the
copies
of
all
resolutions
where
changes
have
been
authorized.
This
is
standard
practice
as
well.
Q
Finally,
the
study
and
our
review
of
it
by
the
interim
HR
director
and
team
has
taken
longer
than
expected,
as
we
sent
it
back
to
our
department
heads
for
one
additional
review
with
the
interim
HR
director,
given
that
I'm
recommending
and
the
adopting
resolution
calls
for
any
pay
adjustments
to
be
made
retroactive
to
July
1
2018,
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year.
That
way
no
employee
will
have
been
adversely
affected
by
the
delay.
Getting
this
adopted.
Q
This
plan
allows
the
flexibility
by
using
minimum
and
maximum
points
on
a
pay
grade
to
allow
either
annual
cost-of-living
adjustments,
which
is
what
you
use
now.
And/Or
merit
increases
based
on
job
performance
evaluations.
The
county
currently
does
not
use
performance
evaluations
in
all
of
our
departments.
I
highly
recommend
that
your
new
HR
director
develop
a
performance
evaluation
system
as
soon
as
possible.
In
the
meantime,
you
would
need
to
continue
to
use
colas
on
an
annual
basis.
Q
The
colas
can
either
adjust
the
minimum
midpoint
and
maximums
on
each
pay
grade
or,
alternatively,
they
can
be
used
to
move
people
further
along
within
the
grade.
The
this
flexibility
would
allow
you
to
give
different
cola
percentages
to
different
classifications,
such
as
your
lower
paid
personnel,
and
that's
something
that
several
of
you
have
commented
on.
So,
if
you
want
to
do
that,
you
don't
want
to
adjust
the
grade
there,
every
grade
on
there
by
2%.
What
you
want
to
do
is
move
people
within
the
existing
grade
by
whatever
percentage
you're
going
to
give.
E
Q
E
Discussion
that
I've
been
hearing
is
that,
if
someone's
receiving
2%
makes
thirty
thousand
if
somebody's
receiving
two
percent,
that
makes
thirty
thousand,
you
know
that
someone
that's
making
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
might
not
need
to
receive
two
percent,
and
so
my
question
is:
can
staff
put
together
that
kind
of
recommend
those
some
recommendations
on
how
we
can
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
randomly
try
to
pick.
You
know
what
that
looks
like
I
think
we
need
to
see
some
some
models
on
on
how
that
could
could
look
in
the
future.
A
E
A
L
O
Q
That'll
give
you
time
also:
is
your
you're
getting
ready
to
hire
a
new
manager,
hopefully
in
January
or
February?
They
in
turn
are
going
to
turn
around
and
hire
a
new
HR
director,
and
that
would
give
them
time
to
formulate
where
they
would
like
to
go
and
recommend
to
you
some
of
these
options.
I
just.
E
Q
And
that's
why
I
included
it
in
the
memo,
because
I
wanted
y'all
to
be
aware
of
that.
The
way
you
would
go
about
doing
the
differentials
on
colas
would
be:
do
not
change
the
grades
across
the
board,
but
move
people
within
the
great
the
existing
grade,
and
what
that
does
it
just
moves
them
further
along
in
the
great
therein
right.
B
H
Q
Q
Is
compared
to
what
other
jurisdictions
are
paying
for
comparable
jobs,
so
that's
the
job
market,
if
you
as
a
public
policy,
want
to
pay
above
that
and
say
we
want
to
have
the
living
wage.
You
can
certainly
do
that,
but
I
just
wanted
you
to
understand
that.
There's
nothing
incorrect
about
the
plan
it
was.
It
was
geared
to
determine
market
well,.
I
We
talked
for
years
about
being
living
wage
employers
so
and
not
to
interrupt.
But
when
I
see
this
I
realize
it's
been
a
sham
because
we're
not
living
wage
employers
across
the
board
and
we
have
some
employees
that
are
working
for
Buncombe
County
through
these
salaries
would
qualify
for
assistance
and
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt
but
I
think
that's
what
commissioner
white
size
is
talking
about.
We.
Q
I
understand
that
and
what
I'm
saying
is,
if
you
want
to
take
these
up,
you
can
do
that.
Okay,
but
this
study
was
to
determine
the
market
on
this.
So
if
that's
what
you
want
to
do,
that's
fine
and
you
can
certainly
do
that.
The
the
offset
of
that
is
is
that
you're
also,
but
your
so
I
want
to
just
want
to
say
this
for
the
record
you're
subject
to
the
criticism
that
you're
overpaying
for
those
jobs
relative
to
the
job
market.
We.
A
A
Look
at
that
and
and
confirm
what
the
what
the
current
rate
is
considered
to
be.
There's
a
group
that
works
on
this
and
I
think
we've
always
followed
their
analysis
on
that
with
the
just
economics
organization.
That
looks
at
some
of
those
statistics,
so
we
should
look
at
it
and
and
look
at
our
policy
and,
if
we're
not,
if
there's
some
classifications
that
are
below
that,
we
should,
we
should
follow
up
on
that.
It.
Q
A
Thank
you
good
questions,
any
other
questions,
or
is
there
a
motion?
We
ready
make
a
motion.
I
A
T
A
L
H
Q
H
F
U
A
Sir
excuse
me,
could
you
share
your
name
and
where
you're
from.
U
I
forgot
four,
so
thank
you.
Okay,
one
of
the
things
I
noticed
was
the
library
department
seems
to
be
lacking
in
the
exhibit
4b
analysis.
We
only
have
two
levels
in
there:
the
top
director
of
the
bottom
pages.
There's
nothing
and
I,
read
that
it
was
based
upon
an
analysis
looking
at
like
job
titles
and
that's
where
I
think
we
might
have
a
problem.
U
I
looked
at
Mecklenburg
County,
which
I
was
able
to
access
through
the
Charlotte
observers
website
and
I
found
out
that
Mecklenburg,
which
has
a
cost
of
living
of
one
point
of
one
10.6
compared
to
our
one.
14.3
has
33
managers
in
the
library
by
the
way
they're
three
times
our
size,
33
managers
averaging
$74,000,
three
supervisors,
averaging
$57,000
in
71,
librarians
averaging
fifty-six
thousand
dollars,
when,
oh
by
the
way
in
the
BLS
number
for
librarians
in
North
Carolina
with
a
point
nine
four
three
cost
of
living
is
fifty
thousand.
So
that's
about
right.
U
This
number
two
highest
salary
in
our
library
system,
is
fifty-seven
thousand
dollars,
that's
below
the
librarians
in
Mecklenburg.
That
means
roughly
a
hundred
and
seven
of
their
employees,
make
more
than
our
number
2/3
33
make
more
than
our
number
two.
Our
librarian
managers
are
called
librarian
ones,
they're,
not
called
library
managers.
So
you
can't
do
a
comparison.
U
They
make
around
forty
four
thousand
dollars.
That's
far
less
than
Mecklenburg.
They
have
all
the
responsibilities
of
building
staff
program,
collection
and
they're,
making
seventy
thousand
thirty
thousand
dollars
less
than
Mecklenburg.
Our
library
members
that
handle
the
children's
programs
and
adult
programs
are
called
well
they're
going
to
be
called
library
specialists,
they
average
$33,000
a
librarian,
which
is
what
they
should
be
called
and
Mecklenburg
is
at
57.
U
We
have
30
managers
in
other
departments.
In
Buncombe
we
have
43
supervisors.
The
third
largest
Department
has
none
I.
Think
that
there's
a
title
issue
going
on
here
and
maybe
we
should
be
looking
at
the
job
descriptions
and
the
titles
as
well
as
what
people
are
paid.
I
didn't
I'm
running
out
of
time
here,
so
I'll
just
stop
right.
There.
There
just
looks
like
there's
an
issue
all.
A
K
C
A
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
consideration
of
a
policy
to
require
public
comment
period
at
the
beginning
of
each
meeting
held
by
one
of
our
public
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
this
is
just
a
discussion
item
for
the
board.
There
was
a
question
raised
by
an
engaged
citizen
in
our
community
around
the
fact
that
there's
there's
not
a
public
comment
period,
at
least
by
formal
policy
at
our
different
boards
and
Commission
meetings.
A
So
I
thought
it
was
a
fair
question
for
us
to
discuss
whether
or
not
we
would
want
to
create
such
a
policy,
and
you
know
just
to
kind
of
share
my
thoughts
on
this
I.
Don't
I,
don't
think
we
necessarily
need
to
have
the
same
public
comment
procedures
we
have
for
our
formal
county
commissioner
meetings,
but
I
think
we
all
agree
public
comments,
valuable
and,
if
folks
take
the
time
to
go
to
one
of
these
citizen
public
meetings,
there's
the
good
idea
to
give
them
a
chance
to
share
their
thoughts.
A
So
I
guess
my
my
question
to
the
board
is
whether
or
not
we
might
want
to
create
a
policy
such
that
at
the
beginning
of
public
meeting
boarding
Commission
meeting.
We
should
have
a
three
minute
public
comment
period
and
then
also
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Have
another
public
comment
period.
So,
basically,
if
folks
come,
they
could
share
their
thoughts
about
items
on
the
agenda
and
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
If
they
want
to
share
any
thoughts
about
you
know:
hey
this
is
the
public
business
that's
been
transacted.
A
They
want
to
share
their
thoughts
on
it.
They
could
they
could
do
that.
So
that's
one
way.
We
could
do
it,
but
I'm
certainly
open
to
two
other
ideas.
Any
thoughts
from
commissioners
you
might
want
to
comment,
and-
and
my
sense
is
that
we
don't
have
to
vote
on
this
tonight.
But
if
there's
an
apparent
approach
that
the
Commission
likes
and
we
could
write
that
up
and
vote
on
it
at
a
subsequent
meeting.
B
C
B
Done
what
we've
done
now,
you
know,
give
them
an
idea
to
do
what
they'd
like
to
do.
You
know
somebody
come
up
some
ideas,
the
board
members
from
the
other
boards.
If
they
want
to
come
to
us
and
discuss
it,
I'd
rather
say
that
that
way,
we
have
an
idea
where
they'd
like
to
go.
Instead,
it's
just
semo's
saying
this
is
what
you're
gonna
do
all.
T
D
Support
adding
a
public
comment
period
and
just
having
that
be
a
general
policy
across
boards
kind
of
creates
another
channel
another
way
for
folks
to
show
up
and
express
their
opinions
and
engage
and
I
think
creates
more
opportunity
for
those
community
connections.
So
how
often
that
will
be
utilized
time
will
tell
but
I
think
having
that
built
in
is
an
important
feature
of
any
public.
Any
public
meeting.
A
So
my
suggestion
was,
at
the
beginning
of
each
border,
Commission
meeting
there'd
be
a
opportunity
for
public
comment,
three
minutes
up
no
longer
than
three
minutes
and
then
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
there
would
be
a
another
opportunity
for
public
comment
up
to
three
minutes,
but
that
the
boards
and
commissions
wouldn't
be
required.
You
know
and
all
the
individual
decisions
they
make
throughout.
A
D
H
H
I
think
we
need
to
do
it's
good
for
transparency,
and
you
know
any
boards
of
commission
that
we
have
let's
face
it.
Any
tax
payer
or
any
person
who
lives
in
the
county
should
be
able
to
voice
the
opinion
and
I've
heard
from
several
people
about
two
of
our
boards
that
they
wish
they
could.
You
know,
force
opinion
during
the
meeting.
You
know
things.
That's
going
on,
I
think
it's
only
you
knowing
the
true
sense
of
transparency,
so.
I
E
I
P
As
long
as
you
have
one
side
and
the
other
have
opportunity,
then
you're?
Okay,
if
you
have
a
hundred
people
here
against
an
item
in
one
person,
for
you,
don't
have
to
give
the
one
person
half
an
hour
and
the
people
they
love
people
half
an
hour.
It
could
be
two
minutes
each
before
or
at
the
end
of
any
meeting.
So
there
are
a
number
of
ways
to
do
it
and
I
would
just
suggest
some
flexibility.
P
E
A
G
A
D
I
think
it
functions
really
well
and,
as
is
the
case
here,
it's
a-you
know
it's
another
way
for
people
to
share
what's
on
their
mind,
and
it
also
helps
to
kind
of
raise
that
flag
around.
You
know
some
issues
really
touch
people's
lives
closely
or
there's
a
lot
at
stake
around
certain
issues
and
it's
one
of
the
ways
we
make
sure
we
sort
of
have
an
understanding
of
that.
So
just
just
jojje,
hopefully
to
show
you
some
of
your
concerns
it.
D
E
T
E
And
I:
don't
you
know,
do
you
do
it
at
the
beginning?
Do
you
do
at
the
end
or
should
we
is
there?
Is
there
a
better
way
to
achieve
this?
Should
we
be
sinning,
should
we
send
something
to
them
and
tell
them
that
we
encouraged
them
to
do
that?
And/Or
see
who's,
not
doing
it.
You
know,
rather
than
creating
a
policy
that
requires
them
to
do
it,
because
I
haven't
been
to
one
that
isn't
doing
it.
Mm-Hmm
I
mean
I
just
haven't
well.
I
V
Mr.
chairman,
oh
just
as
a
point
to
make
sure
that,
whatever
policy
you
put
into
place
to
make
sure
that,
if
you
do
allow
public
comment,
not
all
of
the
boards
that
you
appoint
our
policy
making
boards
so,
for
example,
Health
and
Human
Services
in
the
library
board
do
not
set
policy.
So
I
wouldn't
want
the
public
to
not
avail
themselves
of
this
platform
as
well.
Thinking
that
what
they
were
establishing
with
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Board
or
the
library
board
was
establishing
policy.
V
You
were
still
the
one
that
would
establish
a
policy
and
they're
in
it
they're
both
of
those
boards
or
advisory.
The
library
board
only
has
the
ability
to
set
fines,
and
otherwise
they
don't
set
policy.
So
I
would
whatever
you
do
just
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
they
should
still
avail
themselves
of
you.
As
policy
makers,
I.
A
Think
it's
a
good
point,
although,
although
I
would
you
know,
I
would
argue
that
even
for
those
that
don't
have
direct
decision-making
authority,
you
know
they
do
play
a
role
in
planning
and
probably
public
input
opportunities
are
good
there
well
again,
I.
You
know,
I
appreciate
the
other
folks
asked
to
put
on
the
agenda
I
think
it's
been
good.
Some
good
questions
have
come
up
about.
You
know,
because
a
lot
of
boards
do
do
do
this,
so
it's
not
like
nobody
does
so
I.
A
Don't
have
any
other
questions
for
now,
I'd
like
to
kind
of
just
personally
kind
of
think
about
the
questions.
I
got
raised
and
input,
and-
and
maybe
maybe
look
at
maybe
go
through
a
list
of
looking
at
which
boards
do
already
take
public
comment
which
will
and
think
about
whether
bringing
a
new
policy
forward
might
might
make
sense
in
the
future.
So
any
other
any
other
comments
on
this
before
we
move
on
to
the
next
item.
All
right,
thank
you.
A
Everyone
and
again
Donna
was
joking,
but
we
will
have
public
comment
and
if
you
have
thoughts
on
this,
we
we
we
welcome
them
in
just
in
just
a
couple
of
minutes.
All
right.
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
consideration
of
a
contract
for
Cadmus
for
up
to
$100,000,
50%
of
which
will
be
paid
by
the
city
of
Asheville
50%
by
Buncombe
County
to
develop
a
renewable
energy
plan.
This
is
another
item
that
we
had
presentation
on
at
a
previous
meeting
and
discussion
so
and
already
voted
to
approve
up
to
this
amount.
So
really
this.
Y
Okay
good
evening,
so
the
county
solicited
responses
to
an
RFP
for
renewable
energy
planning
services
in
order
to
develop
an
actionable
plan
to
address
the
100%
renewable
goal
passed
by
the
Commission.
As
a
part
of
setting
the
Kuna
setting
the
county's
strategic
priorities,
we
had
five
qualified
firms
that
responded,
which
we
were
very
happy
with.
Selection
committee,
was
formed
that
consisted
of
city
and
county
sustainability,
staff
facilities
and
maintenance
staff,
as
well
as
some
finance
staff
who
wanted
a
diverse
set
of
eyes
to
read
over
these
proposals
and
select
the
qualified
firm.
Y
After
reviewing
the
proposals
and
interviewing
candidates,
the
committee
unanimously
agreed
that
the
cadmus
group
was
far
and
away
the
top
choice.
So
what
you
have
on
your
agenda
tonight
is
a
negotiated
agreement
between
the
county
and
Cadmus
to
provide
those
planning
services,
the
the
goal
of
which
will
be
to
develop
this
roadmap
to
reach
our
100%
renewable
goal,
with
concrete
actionable
steps
that
we
can
take
and
just
as
important
the
financial
impacts
of
those
steps,
and
you
know
to
essentially
create
a
plan
that
continues
to
guide
this
work
into
the
future.
Y
E
K
Y
Entire
committee
did
so
the
committee
did
that
correct
yeah
and
again
that
was
so.
The
committee
was
consisted
of
sustainability
staff
for
the
city
and
the
county,
as
well
as
facilities
and
maintenance
for
the
city
in
the
county,
as
well
as
some
of
the
finance
staff
she's
no
longer
with
the
county,
but
Jennifer
Durrett,
who
was
formerly
our
controller,
was
was
a
part
of
that
selection
committee
as
well.
E
E
Q
Part
of
it
is
that's
actually
writing
the
report
and
things
like
that.
But
a
lot
of
this
is
having
stakeholder
workshops,
reviews
and
policies
and
strategies
that
you
might
look
at
impact
assessments.
Then
they've
got
to
go
through
and
do
site
identification
of
where
you
might
put
certain
facilities,
and
things
like
that.
So
all
of
that
it
has
to
be
done
before
you
could
sit
down
and
actually
draft
the
report
and
compile
that
and
that
sort
of
thing
so.
Q
Y
That
will
absolutely
be
the
next
step.
Is
it
once
a
plan
is
developed?
We
will
come
before
the
board
with
recommendations.
You
know,
recommendations
on
potential
implementation
of
renewables,
cost
associated
recommendations
for
potential
policy.
Changes
that
we
can
help
implement
to.
You
know,
move
the
ball
forward
with
renewable
energy,
so
yeah,
that's
absolutely.
The
the
next
step
will
be
to
present
that
to
the
board
and
and
allow
us
to
have
that
help
make
the
decisions
going
forward
as
to
how
we
plan
to
reach
the
goal
and
the.
Q
A
All
right,
there's
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
some
other
motion
all
right
before
we
vote
I
do
want
to
disclose
ID
where
I
work
in
the
solar
energy
industry,
but
I
do
not
do
any
work
with
Buncombe,
County
or
the
city
of
Asheville
government
and
will
continue
to
not
do
so
in
the
future.
But
I
did
want
to
just
put
that
on
the
record.
I
didn't
know
you
did
that
it
was
brought
up
at
another
meeting.
You
probably
forgot
about
it,
but
if
I.
Y
Could
make
one
quick
point
of
clarification?
Mr.
Dalton
was
kind
enough
to
bring
this
to
my
attention
as
a
part
of
the
budget
amendments
that
are
further
down
the
agenda.
There's
a
budget
amendment
to
add
the
$50,000
from
the
city
of
Asheville
to
our
budget
to
pay
for
their
portion
of
it.
It
is
not
an
additional
$50,000,
it
does
not
change
the
total
amount
being
paid
and
that
maybe
wasn't
super
clear
reading
through
the
agenda
tonight,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
public.
Y
C
E
Z
C
E
You
know
you
know
to
commissioner
Presley's
point,
you
know
the
other
thing
you
know.
If
you
look
at
that,
you
know,
there's
there's
not
a
lot
of
money
on
their
expenses,
so
I
don't
know
if
they,
because
it
runs
this
amount.
Do
they
limit
themselves
at
twenty
seven
hundred
dollars
in
expenses?
Does
that
cause
it
to
come
up
that
even
amount
or
they
just
trying
to
get
all
the
money.
Y
So
quickly,
to
address
your
point
there,
their
budget
proposal
to
us
was
ninety
seven
thousand
dollars
and
some
change.
The
twenty
two
hundred
plus
dollars-
that's
in
there
is
a
contingency-
is
just
that.
It's
a
contingency
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
money
is
going
to
be
spent,
so
their
budget
was
slightly
less
than
one
hundred
thousand
dollars,
but
we
have
one
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
so
we
we
added
that
money
as
contingency
that
that
their
budget
is
less
than
that.
A
B
N
Good
evening,
commissioners,
so
the
first
item
on
your
budget
amendment
summary
is
just
that
referencing
I'm
Jeremiah's
presentation
with
Cadmus
yeah,
the
we
are
requesting
that
you
approve
enable
us
to
budget
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
revenue
from
the
city
of
Asheville,
with
the
corresponding
increase
to
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
expense
for
their
50:50
share
of
the
interlocal
agreement.
So
that's
the
first
budget
amendment
request
you.
A
N
So
the
second
budget
amended
amendment
request
again
references
your
previous
meeting,
where
the
Commission
approved,
based
on
your
commitment
to
early
childhood
development
funding
in
the
total
amount
of
$200,000
to
assist
with
the
construction
and
expansion
of
Swannanoa
Valley
child
care
council
doing
business
as
children
and
Friends
enrichment
center
I'm.
So
please
remember
that
we
had
seventy
nine
thousand
dollars
in
our
current
education
program.
T
I
N
So
the
third
budget
amendment
request
is
in
reference
to
seventy
six
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
seven
dollars
as
a
request
that
comes
from
our
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
specifically
the
Department
of
Public
Health.
The
department
made
application
for
federal
funds
that
were
being
awarded
through
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
in
an
effort
to
continue
opioid
awareness
in
addition
to
bringing
local
services
for
harm
reduction
in
our
community.
I
know
that
you've
heard
dr.
N
Jennifer
mullendore
with
the
Department
of
Public
Health
speak
to
that
issue
and
program
staff
are
here
to
answer
any
questions.
If
you
have
any
about
that,
so
the
request
is
to
be
able
to
budget
the
revenue
for
the
federal
dollars
and
the
associated
expenses
for
the
areas
that
are
outlined
for
expenditure.
A
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
these
three
budget
amendments,
including
the
$50,000
for
the
sustainability
office,
just
discussed
the
120
$1,000
for
the
pre-k
project
in
seventy
six
thousand
four
hundred
eighty
seven
dollars
for
the
opioid
mitigation
item.
All
right.
There's
a
motion
in
a
second
further
discussion,
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
the
motion.
N
A
camera
I'm
so
previously
at
the
request
of
our
interim
county
manager,
mr.
wood
on
October
10th,
he
did
put
forward
a
memo
to
you
as
a
board
making
you
aware
that
he
would
like
to
request
from
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission
I'm
the
ability
to
approve
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
school
safety
security
assessment,
in
addition
to
seventy
five
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
on
behalf
of
Asheville
City
Schools
in
Buncombe
County
Schools,
to
conduct
an
engineering
study
in
relationship
to
radio
installation
around
signals
and
within
those
school.
Those
schools
I'm.
N
So
this
amendment
that
that
board,
the
school
can
capital
fund
Commission,
did
approve
that
request
to
be
paid
with
the
article
thirty
nine
dollars.
The
school
capital
fund
Commission
in
its
regular
course
of
business
additionally
has
approved
and
is
recommending
the
other
projects
that
are
outlined
and
for
your
approval
for
article
thirty
nine
dollars
to
be
used
to
fund
these
particular
projects.
N
N
N
A
A
The
first
of
which
is
the
I'm
sorry,
what
kept
doing
wrong
oh
yeah
I
think
we're
ready.
Let's
do
that.
Let's
do
that
now!
Ron
Payne
good
evening
good
to
see
you
thank
you
for
joining
us
at
this
meeting,
and
so
we
did
by
consensus,
add
to
the
agenda
at
the
beginning
of
this
meeting
consideration
of
a
financial
settlement
with
Michael
Green,
yes,
Jeremy.
Z
Fellow
commissioners
I'm
here
this
evening
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you
as
to
a
resolution
of
the
civil
lawsuit
currently
against
Michael
Green,
but
only
against
Michael
Green
and
just
for
background
information.
You
may
recall
that
mr.
green,
along
with
his
mother,
was
indited
back
in
April
of
this
year
and
if
you
read
the
indictment,
these
the
allegations
against
mr.
green
specifically
allege
misuse
of
a
p-card
and
other
things
at
total
approximately
$7,500.
Z
It
was
discovered
that
while
he
had
not
been
indicted
on
other
matters
that
the
total
amount
that
Buncombe
County
was
probably
out
by
his
misdeeds
was
approximately
thirty.
Eight
thousand
fifteen
hundred
little
over
1,500
had
previously
been
paid
when
it
was
first
reported
back
and
I
think
was
2008
I
have
reached
a
tentative
agreement.
Subject
your
approval
with
his
attorney
that
they
will
pay
$40,000
to
Buncombe
County.
Z
You
may
also
recall
he
was
one
of
the
folks
who
also
received
insurance
policies,
but
he
surrendered
her
son,
those
to
the
county,
and
that
was
used
in
part
to
get
the
two
million.
Eighty
eight
thousand
dollars
which
we
got
back
from
the
insurance
company,
which
leaves
us
about
two
hundred
twenty
two
thousand
short
of
being
made
whole
on
that
2.3
1
million
that
was
wire
transferred
out
of
here
to
by
the
various
policies,
including
those
on
Wanda
green.
One.
Z
Agreeing
of
course
had
cashed
her
policies
in
and
we
were
unable
to
obtain
an
assignment
of
those.
But
we
are
still
pursuing
our
civil
remedies
against
her
in
the
first
lawsuit
as
I
call
it
the
one
that
was
a
result
of
the
first
indictment
against
she
and
her
son
and
in
the
second
lawsuit
against
her
Mandy
stone,
John,
Creighton,
Jo,
Wiseman
and
mr.
Weissman's
company,
but
I
would
recommend.
This
will
only
result
in
a
limited
release
of
mr.
green
and
where
should
something
else
be
discovered.
That
is
not
specifically
referenced
in
the
release.
Z
We
would
be
free
to
pursue
mr.
green
in
a
legal
action
if
we
say
if
you
so
chose
to
do
so,
but
I
believe
that
the
$40,000,
along
with
the
surrender
of
the
life-insurance
money
we
got,
would
make
Buncombe
County
whole
insofar
as
possible
for
the
misdeeds
of
Michael
Green.
I
would
recommend
that
to
you
as
your
attorney.
A
I'm,
supportive
of
the
recommendation,
mr.
Payne
Irwin
saying
thank
you
for
your
work
on
this,
and
this
is
a
this
is
an
ongoing
matter.
As
you
described,
and
we
have,
we
are
glad
to
see
that
the
county
has
already
received
over
the
two
million
dollars
in
the
settlement
from
the
insurance
company
and-
and
this
is
another
step
in
terms
of
our
goal,
which
is
to
make
the
county
taxpayers
fully
whole
for
the
funds
that
were
misspent
and
in
the
big
scheme
of
things.
A
C
E
A
E
A
G
A
H
A
Okay,
bastard
live
Lazarus
received
four
votes.
Yes,
okay.
The
next
committee
is
the
african-american
Heritage
Commission,
there's
one
reappointment
and
two
vacancies
and
we
do
have
the
correct
number
of
people
to
fill.
All
of
those
so
I'll
make
a
motion.
We
reappoint
Sasha
Mitchell
and
appoint
Lynn
Smith
and
Catherine
Mitchell.
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
on
the
County
Board
of
adjustments.
I
I
would
personally
support
doing
interviews
for
this.
This
is
just
as
a
you
know.
A
E
For
this,
so
I'm
pretty
I'm,
actually
very
familiar
with
one
of
one
of
these
that
are
on
here
and
and
I
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
for
Josh
Holmes
I
know
his
families
he's
he's
he's
non-controversial
and
I
think
he
would
do
it
do
an
excellent
job.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
Josh
Holmes
I'd.
A
A
J
H
A
We
have
one
vacancy,
we
actually
have
three
vacancies
for
different
positions.
Okay,
so
I
think
the
way
we
should
look
at
this
is
we
have
specific
positions
we
need
to
appoint
for
so
why
don't
we
first
take
up
the
substance,
abuse
professional
position,
there's
only
one
candidate
that
meets
that
criteria,
which
is
Kendra
Queen,
Taylor,
yeah.
A
F
V
I
A
D
D
A
A
B
D
On
reading
he's
out
in
complication,
the
prisoners
think
he
was
being
considered
for
the
general
position
and
I
think
he's
a
few
references,
Asheville
high
school
student
government
in
the
past
two
years
and
will
be
again
this
coming
year.
So
we
have
to
have
a
lot
of
youth
interest
in
this.
So
I
don't
want
to
complicate
something
that
has
been
thought
through
by
other
people,
but
I
just
raise
a
flag.
Well.
A
Why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
point?
Let's
just
go
ahead
and
someone
to
the
youth
position
on
the
the
which
we
have
the
motion
for
so
let's
go
ahead
and
finish
the
votes
word
that's
for
Shelby,
Clark,
right!
Okay,
all
in
favor
of
Shelby
Clark,
please
say
aye
hi
any
opposed.
Now
we
do
have
one
other
appointment
and
it
is
general,
but
that
means
basically
any
of
the
candidates
can
apply
for
this.
So
just
because
it's
got
the
general
position,
there
doesn't
mean
the
other
folks
couldn't
fill
it
too.
J
Me
mister
chair,
yes,
sir
I
think
this
is
how
they
came
from
the
actual
board.
They
came
recommended
for
these
categories.
So
that's
why
they
are
on
this
list
recorded
that
way.
So
I
I'm
not
sure
if
he
is
a
youth,
but
that's
how
they
recommend.
Okay,
okay,.
D
A
In
favor
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right,
great
thanks
everybody.
Oh
wait,
wait,
wait!
There's
more!
The
homeless
initiative,
we've
got
one
vacancy
and
two
reappointments
I'll
make
a
motion
to
reappoint
April,
Burgess,
Johnson
and
Rachel
Nygaard.
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
and
he
posed
all
right.
Then
we
have
one
vacancy.
C
A
Down
at
know
them,
but
since,
if
there's
a
difference,
fine,
let's
just
go,
spend
these
for
both
great
candidates,
so
both
would
be
great.
Commissioner
fry
I
want
to
be
store,
we'll
start
with
Ellen
she's
already
cast
a
nod
to
Eileen
McMinn,
and
then
mr.
white
sides
like
minion
thank
man,
McMinn.
A
All
right,
Hickman
has
got
more
and
last
one
adult
care
home
committee,
Sharon
white,
all
in
favor
of
shared
white.
They
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you
to
everyone
who
applied
for
these
boards
and
commissions
who
appreciate
your
work
with
these
community
boards.
All
right.
We
will
now
take
public
comment
on
any
matters
that
we
have
not
already
held
public
comment
on
earlier
this
evening.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
this
wish
to
speak
with
us?
You've
got
three
minutes.
Please
share
your
name
and
where
you
live
mr.
Elton.
G
Don
Yelton
Zubat
of
North
Carolina,
first
and
foremost
on
public
comment.
You
missed
an
opportunity
because
what
I
will
say
a
lot
of
go
brandy
is
any
Commission.
Our
board
appointed
by
these
commissioners
up
here
have
the
same
power,
I
think
legally
as
the
commissioners,
and
you
can
override
anything
they
do
or
they
may
have
to
bring
it
to
you
for
final
approval,
but
they
should
operate
by
the
same
rules
and
regulations
that
this
board
operates
by.
G
Why
not
and
I
suggest
in
Braddock
that
you
take
a
three-minute
comment
on
items
that
they
vote
on
because
then,
if
there's
two
sides
there
on
that
issue,
they'll
argue
without
at
that
point,
and
then
you
take
public
accommodation
and
there'll
be
very
little
public
comment
at
the
end,
because
everybody
would
address
their
concerns
during
those
board
meetings
and
I.
Don't
see
why
you
don't
do
that,
because
I
do
respect
you
for
doing
that.
G
Okay
and
I
think
you
need
to
consider
that
number
two
I
think
in
your
own
minutes
here
when
you
get
to
public
comment,
and
there
is
none.
You
say
there
is
none,
because
I
was
talking
to
your
secretary.
While
ago,
if
you
get
down
to
like
the
30th
and
Jerry
Rice,
wasn't
here
and
I
wasn't
here
so
I
said
it
was
no
comment,
but
the
section
public
comment
was
on
the
edge
on
the
audit.
So
if
there
is
no
comment
state
there's
no
comment,
so
you
will
know
that
there
was
no
public
comment.
G
If
you
look
back
at
those
minutes
later
on
in
the
year
also,
you
need
to
be
sure
that
all
the
boards
and
commissions
that
you
appoint
take
minutes
at
one
time
in
Buncombe
County.
You
used
to
have
minutes,
but
I
bet
you
right
now.
If
I
started
to
ask
you
for
minutes
for
your
boards,
you
don't
have
them
all.
You
need
to
find
out
if
they're
keeping
minutes,
they
are
required
by
law
and
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
to
keep
minutes
and
number
two.
G
The
last
thing
the
there
was
an
item
on
the
agenda
today
that
was
taken
off.
That
said,
there
should
be
special
consideration
for
development
on
severe
slow,
such
as
ie
making
100
acres
and
only
developing
15
of
that
hundred,
rather
than
saying
one
house
per
three
acres,
it
is
correct
because
when
you
say
one
house
for
three
acres,
you
have
roads
all
over
the
mountains
and
what's
the
worst
cause
of
pollution
or
any
you
know
it
it's
roads,
so
that
resolution
y'all
need
to
look
at
it.
G
T
T
A
couple
of
things
on
public
comment
on
these
boards
I
think
it's
really
really
important.
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
them
and
I've
been
shut
down
a
lot
of
them
not
getting
to
speak,
and
this
has
been
over
the
years.
It's
not
just
been
one
or
two
years
so
I
think
it's
really
important.
Give
you
a
good
example
on
the
dss
Board.
They
had
public
comment
at
one
time,
but
it
was
kind
of
like
choose
yes
or
no
or
maybe-
and
you
might
get
in.
T
T
You
can
look
at
the
county
out
in
Turkey
and
see
what
the
state
should
have
had
oversight
of,
and
you
can
understand
that
Buncombe
County
had
some
problems
too
and
they're
they're
not
little
problems,
there's
quite
a
few
big
problems
within
DSS
and
the
establishment,
as
well
as
the
judicial
system
over
here
in
the
big
story.
Building
over
here
and
the
family
court
system
is
just
as
bad
as
anything.
T
You
could
find
when
you
negate
your
responsibility
on
the
court
system
and
and
not
be
able
to
take
your
face
and
your
child,
your
parents
or
your
children,
to
the
court
and
be
heard,
and
it
gets
stalled
in
the
family
court
system,
where
you
don't
have
a
jury
trial,
there's
something
wrong
with
that.
So
that's
what
I'm
speaking
of
it's
over
yours
is
here.
Probably
what
I'm
saying
the
judge
bein
back
here.
He
understands
those
legal
matters
and
so
does
the
other
judges
that
I've
talked
to
and
don't
ever
think
they
some
vague
words.
T
So
if
we
can
flush
these
things
out
in
these
meetings,
where
we
can
get
some
ideas,
it's
9:00
picking
on
DSS
board,
I'm,
giving
you
an
example,
because
some
of
these
things
are
very
serious.
It
needs
to
be
talked
about,
and
then
you,
ain't
gonna,
be
a
Cherokee
County
getting
into
trouble.
The
other
thing
is
public
back
here
in
the
back
I'm
I'm
really
ashamed
to
say
that
I'm
being
rude
Becker
but
I'm
telling
you
you
need
to
do
something
about
these
mics
and
it's
been
said
over
and
over
and
over
I.
U
Tim
Wallace
from
Fairview
on
public
comment.
The
boards
and
commissions
are
a
direct
conduit
to
you
folks.
They
do
recommend
such
things
as
budgets,
salaries,
so
that
makes
public
comment
at
that
level.
Paramount
also
I
would
prefer
it
to
be
in
the
same
structure
you
folks
have
which,
by
the
way
is
fantastic.
Any
time
you
come
to
an
older
new
business
vote.
We
all
get
to
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
U
What
ended
up
happening
was
they
knew
they
went
from
monthly
meetings
to
bimonthly
meetings
from
meeting
at
6:30
to
meeting
at
5:00,
totally
eliminating
over
half
the
people
that
attend
those
meetings
because
they
have
to
work
to
six.
No
public
comment
was
allowed
and
now
boom.
The
people
are
out
and
worse
they're
frustrated
because
they
think
that
that
board
didn't
care
about
them.
We
don't
want
that.
We
want
people
to
be
because
I
don't
think
the
board
would
have
done
that
move.
U
Had
they
known
this
situation
was
going
to
exist
if
people
had
stood
up
and
say,
hey
I
worked
till
six
I
won't
be
able
to
be
here
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
The
board
actually
thanked
everyone
for
their
attendance,
regular
attendance
at
meetings,
and
they
had
just
eliminated
their
ability
to
attend
future
meetings.
So
that's
why
I
think
that,
even
with
votes
on
old
and
new
business,
it's
necessary
and
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
if
there's
been
discussion
like
this
here,
we
all
were
able
to
discuss
this
now.
U
I
can
give
my
opinion
and
I
will
be
perfectly
candid.
I
am
really
impressed
that
I'm
able
to
do
that
and
that
I'm
able
to
have
the
you
guys,
listen,
the
county
manager,
the
assistant
manager,
it's
a
real
blessing
to
all
of
us,
and
also
one
other
thing.
I
noticed
is
that
some
of
the
board's
can
change
their
own
bylaws,
I
kind
of
think
that
that's
kind
of
an
interesting
one
I
would
prefer
to
see
it
that
they
can
recommend
a
change
to
the
bylaw
to
the
County
Commission
and
then
the
County
Commission
can
concur.
A
AA
I
need
to
go.
We
need
a
motion
and
a
vote
to
enter
into
a
closed
session
pursuant
to
north
carolina
general
statute.
143
318
point
11
a3
to
discuss
the
legal
matter
with
retain
counsel
pertaining
to
the
following
cases:
County
of
bunkum
versus
Wanda,
Skellington,
green
Michael,
Green,
18
CBS,
said
seven
and
county
of
bunkum
versus
wanda
Skellington
Green
Amanda
Lewis,
stone,
John,
Crichton,
Joe,
Wiseman,
&,
Company,
18,
CBS,
4206,.
A
Second,
or
is
my
motion
in
a
second
before
we
go
into
closed
session.
I
just
need
to
make
a
brief
announcement,
which
I
should
have
done
before
December
3rd
at
5
p.m.
the
County
Commission
will
hold
a
swearing-in
session
for
commissioner
elect
at
200
College
Street
room
three
to
six
here
in
downtown
Asheville
and
then
on.
December
4th
at
5
p.m.
will
be
the
next
commissioners
regular
meeting
at
200
College
fruit
room
three
to
six.
All
in
favor
of
the
motion.
Please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
We're
gonna
go
to
the
closer.