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From YouTube: Commissioners' Meeting - 01/03/2012
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Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting from January 3, 2012.
Agenda
1) Call to Order
2) Pledge of Allegiance
3) Invocation
4) Discussion/Adjustment/Approval to Follow Agenda
5) Good News
a. Congratulations to Ed Sheary, Library Director of the Year
b. Mental Health Services Report
6) Public Hearing
a. Rezoning Request - Norris Max Clubb from R-1 to CS
7) County Manager's Report
8) New Business
a. Resolution Requesting the NC Board of Transportation to Rename the Smoky Park Bridge in Memory of Captain Jeffrey Bowen.
b. Economic Development Report
9) Board Appointments
10) Announcements
11) Public Comment
12) Closed Session/Open Session
13) Adjournment
A
A
Thank
You
vice
chair
Stanley,
is
under
the
weather
tonight
and
he
was
scheduled
to
give
the
invocation.
So
if
you'll
join
me,
I
will
substitute
this
place.
Let
us
pray
God.
Thank
you
for
all
you
give
us.
Sometimes
we
forget
about
it
and
the
hustle
and
bustle
of
holidays,
and
we
forget
all
of
your
love
and
your
compassion
for
all
of
us.
Take
care
of
the
folks
that
get
left
behind.
A
A
Thank
you
for
our
families,
our
friends,
all
you
give
us
remind
us
this
whole
year,
how
much
bounty
and
how
much
you've,
given
each
one
of
us
and
most
of
all,
help
us
to
take
care
of
other
people
that
don't
have
as
much
as
we
do
there's
so
much
suffering,
there's
so
many
folks
without
jobs.
There's
so
many
folks
that
are
having
tough
times
help
us
to
make
decisions
here
and
elsewhere,
with
compassion
and
understanding
that
other
folks
are
having
a
tough
time,
amen.
A
B
B
A
There's
been
a
motion
by
Commissioner
Peterson,
a
second
by
Commissioner
Jones.
Is
there
any
discussion,
if
not
all
those
in
favor
of
a
pot
of
following
the
agenda,
and
that
means
approving
the
consent
agenda
say
on
I
all
opposed
no
the
consent.
The
agenda
will
be
followed
as
printed
by
four
of
good
news
director
of
the
year
edge,
sherry.
We
have
it's
our
honor
today
to
have
your
board
on.
Are
you
so
bored?
Won't
you
come
up
and
and
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
this
award-winning
man
and
we
are
so
proud
of
you.
C
C
Of
the
water
and
it's
ours
to
sear
honor
to
to
be
able
to
to
join
you
in
commending
ed,
sherry,
the
library
director
of
the
year
for
North
Carolina,
he's
done,
as
we
all
know,
wonderful
things
for
our
library
system.
The
library
is
the
really
the
heart
of
any
community
and
I.
Think
Ed's
leadership
as
libraries
are
changing
in.
C
A
D
There
are
76
public
library,
directors
in
North,
Carolina
and
I
have
had
to
tell
people
I've
been
a
library
director
in
North
Carolina
for
31
years.
That's
how
long
it
took
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
what
it
means,
but
if
recognition
by
one
Spears
is
always,
it
is
very
gratifying
and
I'm,
no
denying
that
I've
been
lucky,
and
you
know
they
say.
Timing
is
everything
and
in
my
case
it
really
has
been
because
I'm
in
my
22nd
year
as
your
library,
director
I,
was
thinking
back
at
the
board.
That
was
here.
D
You
know:
gene
rainy,
Tom,
Sobel,
of
course
bill
Doris,
just
Ledbetter,
and
the
boards
that
have
come
since
I've
had
the
privilege
of
working
with
great
trustees,
I've
been
through
probably
three
generations
of
trustees
as
they
served
their
time
and
move
on
and
they've
all
been
very
supportive
and
helpful.
But
one
thing
I
wanted
I
wanted
to
say
and
that
this
probably
is
as
much
to
Wanda
is
as
to
anybody
else.
D
I
watched
the
county
itself
become
something
really
special
and,
as
I
went
through
this
building
project,
the
pack
library
project,
it
kind
of
came
home
to
me
because
I
hear
that
may
well
be
the
last
one
of
these
I
do
is
how
well
this
county
works
together,
and
a
couple
of
things
came
to
mind
there.
It
is
first
of
all,
there's
a
genuine
team
spirit
of
once
this.
This
board
decides
something's
going
to
happen
in
how
all
the
various
departments
start
working
together
and
the
thing
that
is
probably
the
most
remarkable
about.
D
It
is
an
almost
total
absence
of
gotcha,
because
a
lot
of
us
we
live
in
fear
of
okay.
Well
we're
a
little
over
budget
over
here
on
this
side.
Well,
what's
going
to
happen
and
in
some
organizations
you
get
swatted
for
that
in
this
organization,
you're
going
to
have
three
or
four
people
looking
at
Donna
up
there
saying:
oh
well,
maybe
there's
some
money
over
here.
You've
got
in
this
pocket.
You
hadn't
thought
of
they're
going
to
help.
D
You
solve
the
problem
and
that's
what
makes
it
a
really
fun
place
to
work
most
of
the
time
and
that's
why
we're
able
to
get
so
much
done
so
I
think
you
all
as
board
members
really
have
something
to
be
proud
of,
because
an
organization
that
works
and
works
as
well
as
this
one
does
most
of
the
time.
There's
a
rare
and
wonderful
thing.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
F
G
B
C
Thanks
again
for
this
opportunity,
and
just
in
closing
I
want
to
say
it's
a
testimony
to
add
that
when,
when
it's
his
turn
to
stand
in
the
spotlight,
he
turns
it
back
on
you,
but
we
again
want
to
want
to
say
what,
how
thankful
we
are
in
this
community
for
Ed's
leadership
in
the
library.
The
county
has
a
lot
to
do
with
it,
but
sometimes
it
comes
down
to
leadership.
Thank
you
Thank
You,.
A
B
Mr.
chairman,
if
I
may
no
one
mentioned
this,
but
I'd
like
to
give
kudos
to
the
citizen
times
for
the
article
that
they
did
on
it,
I
believe
it
was
sunday
if
you
want
to
read
the
story
of
a
young
man
who
started.
I
think
it
was
about
two
years
old
when
he
shoved
his
first
book
for
the
for
the
Buncombe
or
the
actual
libraries.
B
H
B
B
A
I'm,
just
your
civic
club,
your
president
I
think
of
qantas
civitan
club
on
top
of
everything
else,
I
see
them
walking
back
and
forth
to
your
different
roles
and,
thank
you
add
you
make
us
a
better
community.
Next
up
we're
going
to
have
a
mental
health
services
report
and
I
think
we
have
our
sheriff
and
Duncan
Amy
Griffith
program
director
for
jail,
diversion
and
reentry
with
rha
services
and
major
Glenn
Mattias,
the
administrator
of
the
detention
center
sheriff
good
to
see
you
good
happy.
I
New
year
Mainers,
it's
good
to
see
you
as
well
I.
Think
chairman
Gant
had
I
asked
a
couple
weeks
ago
to
come
in
and
have
a
report
on
mental
health
services
and
addiction
services
in
the
jail
or
some
case
management
that
we're
doing,
and
that
has
started
several
years
ago.
And
basically,
what
we
were
finding
is
a
lot
of
consumers
of
mental
health
services.
We
were
finding
that
the
jail
was
with
slowly
becoming
a
catch
basin
for
those
folks
because
of
a
lot
of
the
state
services
drying
up.
I
So
with
a
lot
of
forethought,
the
idea
was
put
out
there
that
we
need
to
start
dealing
with
this
issue
a
little
bit
more
in
the
foreground
and
a
little
bit
more
with
the
thought
of
how
we
can
do
some
effective
things
in
the
detention
center.
Maybe
to
avoid
that
criminal
justice
peace
for
folks
who
might
be
suffering
from
a
mental
illness
who
may
have
committed
a
very
minor
crime.
I
So
as
we
started
looking
into
that,
there
were
a
lot
of
different
things
that
went
into
the
jail
management
piece
and
very
much
of
them
centered
around
how
we
interact
with
mental
health
services
providers
such
as
rha,
and
how
we
look
at
those
folks
and
trying
to
eliminate
some
of
that
mental
health
peace.
Now
the
situation
we
had
about
four
years
ago
is
we
had
an
average
daily
population
that
would
sometimes
hit
5,
10,
5,
20
and
right
now
we're
looking
at
a
very
decreased
population
and
we
very
actively
manage
that
jail
population.
I
Now,
when
I
go
out
and
I
talked
with
folks
in
the
community,
sometimes
I
have
to
stop
and
explain
that
because
I
say
sheriff
eating
it
good
to
have
the
jail
full
of
the
folks
that
are
out
here
doing
crimes,
and
the
answer
to
that
is
absolutely.
But
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
we're
trying
to
identify
the
folks
who
may
have
gotten
in
there
through
some
very
minor
offense
who
have
a
mental
illness
or
an
addictions
issue
who
are
kind
of
our
frequent
flyers.
I
They
continue
to
come
back
through
the
criminal
justice
process
and
trying
to
do
something.
That's
a
little
more
effective
and
efficient
with
those
folks.
Now,
when
we
talk
about
managing
the
jail
population
and
bringing
that
population
down,
there's
also
another
number
that
we
watch
very
closely
and
that's
our
uniform
crime
reporting
number
that
the
state
reports
on
every
year
and
I'm
extremely
glad
to
tell
you
that
Buncombe
County
over
the
past
four
years
has
seen
a
thirty
percent
reduction
in
the
major
eight
crimes
and
those
are
homicide.
I
Sexual
assault
aggravated
assault,
motor
vehicle
theft,
armed
robbery,
burglary,
larceny
and
arson.
So
we've
seen
those
numbers
dramatically
drop
along
with
the
numbers
in
the
detention
center,
our
average
daily
numbers.
So
as
long
as
both
those
numbers
are
going
in
the
right
way,
we
feel
like
we're
having
a
lot
of
success
with
managing
the
jail
population.
J
I,
thank
you
for
having
us.
My
name
is
Amy
Griffith
and
I'm,
with
rha
I'm,
a
licensed
professional,
counselor
and
I'm.
I
oversee
several
all
the
programs
that
we
administer
through
contracts
with
the
county
and
I've
been
doing
this
I'm
almost
at
two
years
now
so
I'm
still
new.
So
the
first
slide
is
going
to
be
just
an
overview
of
good
just
clicking
away.
Oh
the.
J
So
this
sort
of
highlights
think
he
rich
monger
for
putting
this
together,
for
us
he's
really
the
brains
behind
this.
This
highlights
the
collaboration
that's
going
on
among
systems
and
most
of
these
systems
are
in
for
most
purposes
being
funded
by
the
county.
So
this
is
a
really
good
way
for
you
guys
to
see
how
about
how
your
money
is
really
working
together
to
help
us
meet
our
needs.
I
could
go
on
and
on,
but
if
you'll
just.
J
We
work
closely
with
jail
staff,
pretrial
release
staff,
attorneys
and
judges
to
identify
people
who
are
coming
into
the
facility
as
quickly
as
possible,
usually
within
24
hours,
who
may,
as
the
major
said,
be
here
for
crimes
that
are
secondary
to
an
untreated
mental
health
or
substance,
abuse,
disorder
and
I
have
a.
We
have
three
case:
managers
who
are
out
reaching
those
people
again,
usually
within
24
hours,
and
if
the
person
is
there
primarily
due
to
a
severe
and
persistent
mental
illness,
that's
not
being
treated
appropriately.
J
Often
this
is
a
trespassing
kind
of
a
charge
with
maybe
a
homeless
schizophrenic
person.
We
can
usually
divert
them
out
of
jail
until
their
court
date,
and
this
is
a
post
booking
diversion
where
we're
identifying
these
people
and
in
cooperation
with
the
incarcerated
individual,
developing
a
treatment
plan
housing
any
other
public
services
that
they
need
to
help
them
stay
stable
and
we're
presenting
that
to
the
judge,
usually
by
their
bond
hearing
within
two
to
three
days
sooner.
J
J
The
other
two
case
managers
are
focusing
on
people
who
have
mental
health,
primary
or
substance
abuse
primary.
They
may
not
be
quite
as
as
chronic
as
what
we're
seeing
for
jail
diversion
but
they're,
still
back
in
and
in
and
in
over
and
over
and
over
again,
because
they're
not
dealing
with
their
psychosocial
issues
very
well
and
they
meet
with
those
people.
The
white
book
that
rich
is
responsible
for
is
a
really
great
resource
guide
of
everything.
That's
going
on
in
the
county,
not
service
providers,
but
how
to
get
those.
M
J
Providers
and
they're
developing
a
re-entry
plan
with
them.
What
do
you
need?
Do
you
need
help
with
housing?
Do
you
need
help
with
food
stamps?
Do
you
need
help
with
babysitters?
What
are
all
the
things
that
are
preventing
you
from
being
able
to
live
out
on
the
streets
without
getting
in
trouble
and
then
and
linking
them
with
treatment
and
with
services?
The
substance
abuse
treatment
that
they
need
and
and
we're
seeing
and
we're
seeing
those
numbers
go
down
a
lot
on
average
right
now.
H
N
N
Very
briefly,
in
2009
they
actually
did
a
study
as
far
as
to
take
a
look
as
far
as
the
number
of
folks
that
were
dependent
or
were
some
of
the
issues
that
they
had
in
the
facility
on.
Certainly,
there
was
a
correlation
as
the
sheriff
spoke
about
between
crime
and
obviously
who's
in
custody,
but
one
of
the
questions
from
the
sheriff's
leadership
that
he
wanted
to
see
was
well
who
needs
to
be
in
jail.
N
That's
a
very
good
question
by
that,
and
so
we
took
a
look
at
some
other
issues
in
here,
but
from
the
study.
Basically,
this
is
what
rha
did
for
us
as
far
as
with
inmate
population
and
that's
what
I
will
talk
about
at
the
very
last
slide
from
the
study,
basically
for
those
that
had
a
substance
abuse
case
management
that
Amy
spoke
about,
which
is
very
successful,
actually
prevented.
N
1.5
arrests
for
the
mental
health
case
management
that
prevented
point,
seven,
five
arrests
and
from
the
jail
diversion
or
adjust
program
that
prevented
one
arrest
from
the
stay
that
they
did
in
2009
as
a
result
of
that.
What
does
that
mean
well
for
the
jail
diversion?
Actually,
it's
quite
successful
if
you
take
a
look
at
it
in
a
number
of
jail
days
for
us.
Basically,
what
happened
is
that's
prevented
1001
and
fifty
four
arrests
now
taking
our
average
link
to
stay
with
that.
Basically,
what
that
happened
was
that
was
thirty.
N
One
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
eight
days
in
jail
were
preventing
or
what
they
caused
to
happen
was
that
left
85
beds
open
into
jail
between
them
and
also
the
pre-trial
program.
These
are
the
two
biggest
programs
that
certainly
have
the
biggest
impact
as
far
as
with
jail
diversion,
and
certainly
just
to
go
ahead
and
take
a
look
at
that.
What
does
that
mean?
Well,
preventing
recidivism
means
it's
less
crime,
as
a
share
of
spoke
about
what
those
numbers
being
reduced
by
thirty
percent,
which
means
a
safer
community.
N
Preventing
arrest
also
frees
up
the
law
enforcement
time
to
focus
on
other
citizens
and
safety
issues.
So
the
real
question
is:
who
do
we
want
in
jail?
Well,
we
want
the
people
in
jail
that
need
to
be
in
jail,
but
if
they're
in
jail,
because
they
don't
have
the
services
available,
then
we're
working
to
connect
those
services
and
just
to
reduce
the
recidivism.
So
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
population,
one
things
that
I
really
want
to
note
is
that
our
total
rated
capacity
is
604.
N
Now
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
currently
right
now,
there
are
two
units
that
are
not
being
utilized
with
the
annex,
which
is
being
upgraded
right
now.
Our
total
operational
capacity
is
500
24,
which
is
428
males
and
ninety
six
females
currently
in
the
facility,
we're
only
at
fifty
eight
point
six
percent
of
capacity,
which
means
we
have
a
hundred
and
seventy-one
beds
available.
Now.
What
does
this
mean?
What
it
means
is
we
don't
have
to
build
another
facility
for
another
twenty-four
million
to
the
county,
and
so
what
is
happening?
N
We're
very
thankful
is,
and
it's
not
just
any
one
thing:
it's
certainly
to
mandy's.
It's
it's
certainly
to
the
commissioners
is
certainly
to
the
county
manager,
with
Wanda
and
John
Creighton
and
their
leadership
there,
but
putting
funds
to
those
services
so
that
that's
money
well
spent
as
far
as
keeping
in
jail,
who
you
need
to
keep
in
jail
now,
I
want
to
kind
of
just
point
out.
N
So
when
I
did
this
on
the
twenty-eighth
the
December,
our
population
was
at
three
of
nine
one
of
the
issues
if
you'll
take
a
look,
is
47
of
those
excuse
me
50
of
those
folks
for
federal
inmates.
I
wasn't
too
long
ago
that
we
house
for
past
four
months
for
Cleveland
County,
about
30
to
50
inmates
per
day,
which
generates
some
other
revenue
for
us
was
about
157,000,
so
one
things
is
when
we
run
a
jail.
N
It
is
an
operation,
but
there
are
some
business
aspects
to
that,
and
certainly
that
does
help
out
we're
currently
using
those
funds
to
assist,
as
far
as
with
the
renovation
at
our
annex
facility.
So
again,
the
numbers
are
very
good
now.
What
does
that
mean?
Well
for
2011,
the
average
daily
population
was
394.
Now
that
includes
all
the
federal
inmates
that
we
had,
which
at
times
realtor
about
67
plus
the
30
to
50
that
we
house
from
Cleveland
County.
N
So
this
year
was
the
lowest
in
the
past
five
years
and
certainly
the
credit
goes
to
the
entire
collaboration
we
have
with
the
DA's
office,
public
defender's
office,
rha,
county
government,
the
folks
in
the
jail.
As
far
as
dealing
with
those
issues,
the
local
law
enforcement
deal
with
other
CIT
issues
and
some
of
those
other
issues
for.
N
Crisis
intervention
we
do
have
as
far
as
for
our
folks
team,
they
go
through
a
special
training
in
how
to
communicate
with
those
folks
that
have
some
type
of
mental
disability.
All
I
think
it's
very
difficult
in
the
jail
setting
with
those
folks
that
are
in
there
being
able
to
quickly
recognize
that,
and
that's
what
happens
for
us
with
that
training
that
they
very
quickly
identify
those
folks
work
with
rha
work
with
pretrial.
A
Something
before
rich
in
the
staff
even
gets
that
you
have
the
frontline
off
sirs
recognizing
mental
health
problems
versus
meanness
problems.
That's
correct
and
you're
trying
to
get
the
mean
folks
in
jail
and
the
folks
with
mental
and
substance
abuse
somewhere
they
can
get
some
additional
help,
but
primarily
I
guess:
CIT
is
just
mental
right.
It.
N
A
N
Take
a
look
at
that
all
the
way
around,
so
what
mental
health
is
there
it's
an
issue
for
us.
It
is
something
that
does
impact
the
length
of
stay.
For
example,
if
somebody
comes
in
on
a
trespass
charge
and
they
have
mental
health
issues
and
one
of
the
problems
they
go
into
court
and
the
first
thing
they
do.
Rather
than
accepting
an
attorney,
they
waive
that
attorney.
They
will
not
be
back
into
court
for
six
to
eight
weeks.
N
A
N
Now
again,
we
talked
about
as
far
as
cost
that
in
there
those
costs
that
are
a
stable
cost
for
us
irregardless
of
the
population.
That
is
still
going
to
be
their
staffing
utilities.
Food
equipment,
those
type
of
things,
but
it
does
help
out
in
the
cost
of
their
the
bigger
part
about
that
is
we're
not
building
in
those
facilities.
So
we're
constantly
working
to
decrease
the
population
so
that
we're
not
having
to
spend
millions
of
dollars
to
build
a
larger
facility.
N
So
the
real
question
is:
is
for
Buncombe
County,
how
big
of
an
operational
facility
do
we
want
and
so
we're
trying
to
as
best
as
possible
to
keep
that
into
524
I?
Think
again,
we
have
some
rim
certainly
to
work
with,
and
one
of
the
big
pushes
also
that
has
helped
us
learn
a
lot
better
spot.
Then
a
lot
of
other
counties
based
on
the
new
legislation
that
actually
started
january
first,
yet.
N
Statewide
misdemeanor
confinement
program
and
basically
what
happens
is
90
days
or
less
before
spent
the
time
in
the
detention
of
the
facility.
It
used
to
be
that
they
paid
us
eighteen
dollars
a
day
for
each
day
that
they
would
serve
that
sentence
that
went
away
by
legislation
and
now
the
new
change
that
they
have
is
that
any
one
sentence,
91
280
days
on
a
misdemeanor
will
serve
that
time
at
the
local
facility.
The
only
difference
is
they
will
pay
you
forty
dollars
per
day
in
order
to
house
of
individuals
which
are
there.
N
The
only
real
issues
that
you
have
a
lot
of
counties,
a
lot
of
smaller
counties,
certainly
in
the
West
that
are
also
very
anxious
to
generate
some
of
the
other
revenue
when
it
comes
to
revenue
in
the
west,
where
one
of
the
largest
counties
producing
revenue,
such
as
with
our
federal
revenue,
is
at
1.2
million
that
we
should
have
this
year.
So
we're
probably
going
to
get
ours
from
buncombe
county,
but
not
so
much
as
far
as
from
the
other
Kennedy.
N
I
Just
one
thing,
I
want
to
add
real
quickly
and
I
didn't
realize
rich.
What
coming
up
here
to
present
I
thought
he
was
presenting
as
well.
I
really
want
to
give
rich
monger
a
hand
and
thank
him
for
all
his
effort,
because
his
effort,
both
in
detention
and
also
with
a
crisis
intervention
team
training
that
we've
done
out
in
the
public,
has
made
a
safer
environment
on
the
outside
plus,
has
really
helped
us
manage
the
jail
population.
O
Question
in
a
comment,
and
first
of
all,
I
can
remember
I'm
having
years
ago
was
and
I
was
on
City
Council.
We
had
to
do
the
permitting
approval
for
the
jail
and
and
the
trajectory
that
in
because
we
were
approving
this
jail
and
and
but
the
comments
were
about
what
was
coming.
You
know
we
were
going
we're
going
to
need
another
one
in
next
number
of
years,
and
I
can
just
remember
being
sick
to
my
stomach.
O
You
know
just
thinking
about,
first
of
all,
all
the
dollars
that
were
going
to
be
invested
in
building
it,
which
we
needed
and
was
a
good
investment,
but
just
knowing
that
the
human
life
that
was
that
we
weren't
dealing
with
those
issues
along
the
way
so
clearly
y'all
have,
you
know,
led
the
way
in
the
collaborations
and
the
innovations
in
the
compassion.
You
know
not
just
benefiting
our
state,
but
we
know
that
I
mean
our
community,
but
we
know
that
you
up
in
a
model
statewide
and
nationally
too.
So,
thank
goodness.
O
You
all
turn
that
corner,
because
that
was
those
were
some
scary
numbers
coming
down
the
pike
that
this
is
just
a
kind
of
a
more
of
a
minor
question
about
I,
don't
know
if
it
would
go
under
the
jail
diversion
program,
but
I
know
in
the
Pat.
Maybe
last
year
year
before
there
was
a
one
of
the
collaborations
had
to
do
with
women
at
risk.
I
We've
been
very
proud
to
partner
with
them,
but
I've
got
to
say
it's
been
a
collaborative
effort,
there's
a
lot
of
different
pieces
to
the
puzzle
that
has
really
helped
us
manage
this
jail
population.
Glenn
has
done
a
tremendous
job
in
the
forefront,
making
sure
that
it's
all
managed
and
doing
very
well
and
you're
exactly
right,
I
think
wanda.
I
think
we
would
do
to
build
another
facility
by
this
time
with
the
nut
with
the
track
and
the
numbers
that
we
were
on.
Had
we
not
have
taken
a
different
direction,
that's.
N
General
increase
is
from
the
last
County
Commission
report
is
about
ten
ten
percent
for
you
as
far
as
growth
that
you're
taking
a
look
at
so
I
was
kind
of
in
Shin.
Do
I
look
back
at
some
old
reports
and
we
were
supposed
to
be
around
696
by
this
point,
which
I'm
very
glad,
certainly
that
we
are
not,
but
I
will
tell
you
as
far
as
women
at
risk.
You
take
a
look
at
the
numbers.
We
have
two
female
units
that
hold
96
female
inmates.
N
Our
population
today
is
like
37,
and
so
that's
the
big
impact,
certainly
as
far
as
with
women
at
risk
and
what
they
have
done
to
go
ahead
and
assist
with
that.
But
again
it's
really
no
one
thing
right:
it
is
all
the
pieces
working
together
that
help
out
to
go
ahead
and
make
sure
that
that
population
stays
very
mindful,
so
we're
very
fortunate,
certainly
as
forwards
with
that
major.
A
Could
can
I
get
you
in?
Can
we
in
the
back,
go
back
to
the
second
slide,
where
you
talked
about
the
substance
abuse?
This
is
that
startling
to
me,
and
it
doesn't
surprise
me
on
one
level,
but
it's
a
strong
figure,
we're
fifty
two
percent
of
the
males
have
substance,
abuse
and
sixty-four
percent
of
the
females
you
know
to
get
through.
The
problem
like
you're
doing
is,
makes
us
safer
and
it's
better
for
the
person.
That's
having
these
problems.
A
N
Amy
answer
that
my
take
on
that
is
that
you
have
some
dual
diagnosis:
yeah.
They
go
hand
in
hand,
it's
generally
not
just
the
mental
health
piece
of
that,
but
it's
the
combination
of
the
two
and
then,
as
far
as
with
the
female
aspect,
and
that
that
many
times
that
they're
brought
into
that
abuse,
either
from
other
domestic
issues
or
other
co
defenders
in
there
that
are
in
custody.
That
are
males
that
get
brought
into
that
of
issue.
But
that's.
J
We
see
with
mental
health
issues
almost
always
in
the
jail
setting.
Ninety-Five
percent
of
the
time
has
also
a
substance
abuse
issue
of
some
sort
and
most
people
with
substance.
Abuse
issues
are
dealing
with
an
untreated
mental
health
issue,
even
if
it's
not
a
severe
and
chronic
one.
So
the
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
we
are
the
largest
homeless
shelter
in
the
city.
I
think
I
just
did
the
numbers
for
December,
and
this
is
pretty
consistent
between
20
and
30.
N
N
68
of
those
folks
are
either
mental
health
involved
or
a
mental
subject
that
we've
identified,
and
so
when
we
go
through
there,
many
of
them
in
there
for
misdemeanor
charges,
and
so
we
go
back
to
the
files
and
take
a
look
at
that
process
and
to
see
exactly
what
seems
to
be
the
break
down
here.
While
they
keep
coming
back
in
because
we're
just
trying
to
stay
ahead
of
the
game
so
that,
if
we
don't
do
that,
then
our
link
to
stay
is
going
to
be
much
larger.
N
A
Of
the
one
last
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up,
you
mentioned
time
served
and
as
someone
who
used
to
represent
criminal
defense
folks
who
broke
the
law,
that
would
happen
a
lot.
Somebody
would
do
a
minor
crime
or
they'd
have
for
some
reason.
Like
you've
said
drugs,
alcohol
or
mental
illness,
they
would
fall
through
the
system
they
would
get.
I
was
probably
last
longer.
They
did
call.
A
The
call
me
and
I'd
go
there
and
they
would
be
in
jail
a
real
long
time
and
the
judge
would
say
what
are
you
doing
in
jail
for
six
months?
The
only
trespasser
you
only
did
something
that
that's
more
than
the
time
you
could
possibly
get
and
they'd
say
will
give
you
time
served
and
the
client
would
be
happy
because
they
get
out
of
jail,
but
we've
wasted
all
that
resource.
We've
wasted
an
opportunity
to
help
them,
so
they
don't
come
back
so
I.
A
You
know
it's
just
a
win-win,
as
commissioner
than
all
of
us
feel
we're
just
we're
doing
better
and
it's
a
lot
better
than
when
I
was
involved
in
the
system,
because
that
happened
all
the
time.
The
people
would
get
time
served
much
more
time
than
they
should
have
been
in.
We've
wasted,
County
money
and
we
haven't
made
them
any
better.
B
It's
also
important
to
point
out
that
this
is
another
collaborative
effort
among
departments
in
Buncombe,
County
and
I.
Think
this
is
something
we
saw
when
Ed
sherry
was
some
thanking
the
folks
who
helped
make
the
library
run
and
we're
thanking
the
folks
who
make
the
jail
run,
but
I'm
looking
at
rich
back
there
who
every
health
board
meeting
if
we
can
get
him
to
say
anything
because
he's
such
a
shy
fella
seriously,
but
when
he
speaks
he
speaks
volumes
and
and
you're
right
he's
been
an
integral
part
of
that,
as
has
Mandy
stone.
B
A
P
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
max
club
has
applied
to
rezone
tax
law
pen,
nine,
six,
seven,
eight,
seven,
eight
nine
474
located
at
1910
us
70
highway
from
r1
single-family
residential
to
the
cs,
commercial
service
district.
The
property
is
1.2,
seven
acres
and
located
on
the
north
side
of
us
70,
just
west
of
the
intersection
of
Warren
Wilson
College
Road.
P
P
December,
the
19th
there
were
three
speakers
14
and
two
against
the
requested
rezoning
issues
that
that
were
cited
for
concern
were
that
light
noise
and
perhaps
traffic
would
encroached
in
the
residential
neighborhood
north
of
this
law.
I
would
note
that
that
our
zoning
requires
that
any
new
commercial
development
would
install
buffers
between
it
and
any
existing
residential
use.
O
O
O
P
It's
it's
more
FYI,
this
area
in
particular,
it
was
one
of
those
that
was
not
zoned
until
December
first
of
onine.
So
there
is
some
some
mix
in
there
that
you
would
not
normally
expect
yeah.
A
Q
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
aboard
just
a
clarifying
question
on
those
slides
I.
Just
remember.
Looking
at
him
at
home
and
I
thought,
I
saw
where
it
said.
The
hearing
board
would
be
January
9th
at
the
bottom
of
those
pages
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
correct
or
not,
but
I
saw
January.
Ninth
as
a
hearing
date
and
I
just
wondered
if
if
if
the
people
was
properly
notified
or
not,
that's
the
question.
P
A
L
Live
sir,
yes,
my
name
is
Tim
club
I'm.
The
son
of
North,
max
club
on
behalf
of
the
SE
force,
cannot
be
here,
he's
coming
back
for
traveling
back
from
a
trip
and
when
they
would
have
to
make
us,
I'm
speaking
in
his
stead.
But
yet
is
something
that
right
now
we're
just
you
know
wanting
to
clear
off
and
hope
for
economic
development
for,
for
others,
maybe
possibly
open
it
up
to.
Where
could
create
economic
and
jobs
for
other
people?
So
we
just
appreciate
your
support
and
rezoning
that
for
commercial,
alright,.
K
My
name
is
Pam
maxvill
cloth,
I'm,
the
daughter
of
Max
club
I,
just
like
to
know
that
we
have
grown
up
in
this
area
and
been
here
for
years,
and
there
are
avid
supporters.
I've
lived
in
this
one
in
our
area
and
currently
live
in
the
Fairview
area.
We
are
supporters
of
our
neighbors
and
of
our
co-workers
and
of
our
friends,
and-
and
we
are
here
in
the
economic
situation
with
everybody
else,
so
we
are
looking
for
opportunities.
K
A
A
All
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed.
No,
the
zoning
request
is
approved.
40.
Thank
you.
We
will
not
have
a
county
manager
report
I.
Think
we
determined
in
pre-hearing
new
business.
We
have
a
resolution
requesting
the
North
Carolina
Board
of
transportation
to
named
smokey
park
bridge
in
memory
of
captain,
geoffrey
bowen
they've,
been
by
going
to
present
that.
B
A
Whereas
captain
jeffrey
Scott
Bowen
a
13
year
veteran
of
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
died
on
july
28th
2011,
while
responding
to
a
four-alarm
fire
at
an
office
building
located
at
4,
45,
Biltmore
avenue
in
the
city
of
Asheville
and
whereas
captain
jeffrey
Scott
Bowen
was
first
to
sign
this
firefighter.
The
engineer
company
1
then
promoted
to
fire
engineer
of
engine
company.
A
Seven
then
promoted
to
lieutenant
and
then
most
recently
as
captain
of
rescue
company
3
and
whereas
captain
Bowen
was
the
coordinator
of
the
rescue
boat
for
the
Asheville
Police
Department's
back
to
basics,
program
which
serves
youth
of
the
community
and
whereas
captain
Bowen
was
a
member
of
the
Asheville
Fire
Department
promotional
criteria
committee
and
received
a
bachelor's
degree
in
2007.
Excuse
me
2010
in
fire
safety
and
management,
and
were
asked
throughout
his
career.
A
Captain
Jeff
Bowen
brought
honor
to
the
city
of
asheville
and
buncombe
county
and
had
his
life
tragically
cut
short
in
the
line
of
duty
leaving
behind
family
friends
and
coworkers,
and
whereas
this
board
has
received
requests
from
the
North
Carolina
State
Fire
Marshal
Asheville
fire
department,
buncombe
county
firefighters,
association
in
Buncombe,
County,
Fire,
Chief
Association
to
have
captain
Bowens
memory,
captain
Bowens
dedication
and
sacrifice
memorialized
by
having
the
smokey
park
bridge
named
in
his
honor.
They
have
chosen
this
bridge
due
to
its
proximity
to
Captain
Bowens
fire
station.
A
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
by
the
board
of
commissioners
of
the
county
of
buncombe
as
follows
that
this
board
does
hereby
request
the
North
Carolina
Board
of
Transportation
to
dedicate
the
smoky
park
bridge
in
memory
of
Captain,
jeffrey
Scott
Bowen,
and
that
this
resolution
is
approved
upon
its
adoption.
I'd
like
to
make
that
motion.
Is
there
a
second
Sakic
there?
Any
discussion,
I.
A
A
A
M
So
thank
you
for
that
next,
next,
just
one
is
kind
of
tell
you.
I
have
a
short
period
of
time
to
go
through
what
it
will
seem
like
a
lot
of
information,
so
just
want
to
tell
you
we're
going
through
three
years
of
an
update,
so
I
want
to
tell
you
kind
of
where
we
were
when
I
first
got
here
and
then,
where
we
are
now
and
some
of
the
successes
we've
had
and
then,
where
we're
going
and
just
brief
clips.
So
just
to
kind
of
start
off,
I
made
it
here
and.
M
There
is
right
on
the
precipice
of
that
and
then
I
heard
from
different
board
members
like
hey,
you
know,
you're,
really,
not
as
a
board.
What
you're
walking
into
is
bored
engagement
as
tough
we're,
really
not
engaged.
At
this
point,
I
looked
at
our
marketing
materials.
They
were
really
out
of
date.
We
needed
to
have
that.
M
M
M
We
have
a
minimum
floor
or
we
look
at
the
average
wage
of
those
jobs
and
then
capital
investment
or
capital
expenditures
by
the
company
and
you'll
know
those
as
being
equipment,
or
it
could
be
even
buildings
like
like
moges
building
here,
and
it's
really
the
improvements
on
the
sites
that
have
come
here.
So
those
really
are
the
metrics
that
we're
working
towards
and
understanding
the
situation
that
I
was
in
and
surveying
this
and
understanding
those
as
my
metrics.
What
actually
has
happened.
M
This
is
a
list
of
the
companies
that
have
announced
over
the
last
three
years
in
2009.
You've
noticed
all
the
way
to
the
left
hand,
side
recessionary
kind
of
times,
so
it
was
tough
times,
but
we
still
had
some
successes
and
then
twenty
ten
and
twenty
eleven
we
kept
banging
through
it.
But
I
would
say
that
this
list
is
probably
not
reflective
of
what
you
can
see
in
the
graph
here.
You
can
see
and
I
wish
I
could
step
out
here.
That
goes
back
to
2005.
M
However,
the
question
is:
what
can
you
not
see
in
that
graph
that
are
also
success,
things
that
are
setting
us
up
for
success?
Well,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
didn't
have
a
strategy.
Now
we've
put
together
the
AVL
5
by
5
strategy
and
that
took
hundreds
of
people
in
the
community
pulling
together
to
make
that
happen
then,
actually
was
actually.
We
engaged
think
168
different
people
to
put
that
together.
So
it's
really
a
grassroots
plan,
but
that
plan
led
to
the
transparency
that
you'll
now
see
in
our
financial
statements.
M
M
You
can
see,
there's
lots
of
different
types
of
positions
for
a
lot
of
different
people,
but
when
we
first
got
here
and
the
of
that
you
went
from
50
and
then
it
grew
to
75
employers
and
then
last
year,
82
and
then
this
year,
record-breaking
84
employers
and
the
in
the
an
account
of
job
seekers.
They're
up
this
last
year.
What
we,
what
we
we
thought
was
about.
M
3,000
people
coming
in
the
traffic
was
was
backed
up,
sheriff
Duncan,
helped
us
with
that,
but
backed
up
out
onto
the
interstate
and
up
the
interstate,
which
is
a
bad
sign
that
we
have
that
many
people
looking
for
jobs
but
is
encouraging
that
our
organization,
with
your
support,
put
together
a
really
regional,
phenomenal
job
job
event
that
those
people
could
come
too
and
there
were
there
were
hundreds
over
a
thousand
jobs
available
for
those
people
to
go
to,
and
we
were
able
to
create
that
venue
for
them,
but
telling
that
story.
I.
M
Think
in
the
telling
the
story
of
economic
development
of
projects
takes
new
and
different
marketing
ways
of
doing
that.
So
back
when
we
had
old,
out-of-date
marketing
materials,
we
now
have
kind
of
new
era,
frontier
marketing
materials,
we're
developing
an
app
and
with
things
that
can
be
customized
to
our
clients
they
come
in
and
they
have
an
agenda
which
is,
it
was
very
driven.
M
You
imagine,
moving
your
house
with
only
a
few
hours
to
see
the
community
that
you're
moving
to
imagine
moving
your
company
to
somewhere,
where
you
only
have
a
few
hours
to
discover
the
community
and
that
being
in
such
an
efficient
process,
it's
very
much
a
driver,
and
so
we
can.
You
know
we're
kind
of
technically
we're
linking
those
different
pieces
together
and
our
print
materials
you
can
on
the
fly
customized
very
specifically
to
the
company,
our
print
materials.
M
We
have
videos,
amps
print
materials,
all
those
things
are
Bryant
branding
and
coming
together,
but
we
can't
do
it
alone
and
we
recognize
this,
and
so
we
engage
with
people
outside
of
our
organization.
The
CVB.
You
see
their
logo
up.
There
are
bored,
we've
specifically
brought
board
members
from
around
the
table
and
set
them
in
front
of
our
clients
and
said:
please
tell
our
story
for
us,
because
peer-to-peer
communications
are
some
of
the
most
powerful
and
then
even
public
policy.
M
M
We
have
a
strong
brand
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
push
that
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
seek
the
companies
and
with
the
resources
that
we
have
in
very
niche
ways
to
promote
our
brand
and
and
the
pit
the
words
that
I
have
up.
There
is
really
our
job
is
lighting
the
fires
of
others.
To
tell
our
story,
our
marketing
director
Clark
his
old
job
description
used
to
be
go
out
and
talk
to
companies
on
behalf
of
the
economic
development
coalition.
M
His
new
role
is
really
more
of
coordinating
the
people
within
our
community
to
tell
our
story
on
our
behalf
and
reinforce
our
brand
and
talk
with
that
company.
So
I
think
it's
really
laying
a
foundation
of
becoming
not
only
just
that
graph
of
success,
but
it's
really
becoming
a
proactive
pro
business
community
to
reach
out
there
and
talk
with
the
community
to
talk
with
the
companies
before
they
get
to
our
doorstep,
and
we
react
to
them.
H
A
O
Just
have
a
few
questions,
so
so,
if
you
kind
of
had
to
just
do
the
back
of
the
envelope
calculation
of
the
the
amount
of
effort,
because
I
think
this
is
a
great
trend
that
you're
investing
in
kind
of
acquiring
new
businesses
to
come
to
town
and
the
amount
of
time
that
you're
using
to
kind
of
help
facilitate
you
know
the
home,
boys
and
girls
to
be
able
to
expand.
How
does
that
break
out?
Just
a
curiosity,
I'm.
M
Do
business
here,
it's
44
company's
internal
to
the
to
the
to
the
area.
So
a
good
question
I
think
it
would
be
asked
you.
If
I
told
you,
the
exact
dollar
amounts
because
it's
cheaper
to
go
see
the
halogens
company
down
the
street
from
me
than
it
is
to
drive
to
an
out-of-state
location,
but
in
terms
of
time
frame
I
would
say
we
probably
spend
more
time
on
local
companies
than
we
do.
External
companies-
that's.
O
So
do
people
wait
to
hold
his
jobs
until
the
job
fair,
or
is
that
just
like
a
moment
in
time
like
a
balance
sheet,
would
reflect
you
know
what
that
moment
sent
me
like?
Are
there
always
a
thousand
jobs
available
in
our
community,
and
this
just
has
happened
to
be
when
the
job
fair
was
or
people
know
the
job
fairs
coming
so
they're
going
to
wait?
How
does
that
work?
Do
you
understand
Mike
when
I'm,
where
I'm
coming
from
sure.
M
M
That
being
said,
we
have
served
the
or
used
the
job
fair
to
to
get
new
companies
or
companies
that
have
just
located,
give
them
an
opportunity
to
have
great
exposure
to
the
people
of
there
in
the
skills
of
the
area
like
linamar,
you
know
they
didn't.
They
didn't
wait
for
their
jobs
for
the
job
fair,
but
they
were
there
and
then.
G
R
R
O
S
I've
often
said
that
that
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
been
and
to
have
Clark,
but
we've
got
a
group
of
young
people
who
are
bright
and
dedicated
and
work
every
day
to
try
to
create
jobs
in
this
community.
I
can
remember
the
day
when
people
would
sit
around
hoping
somebody
would
would
call
on
the
telephone
and
they're
not
waiting
for
somebody
to
call
on
the
telephone
they
they're
out
there,
making
those
calls,
whether
it's
local
or
for
companies
that
may
have
given
indication
that
they
may
want
to
come
to
this
area.
S
So
my
hats
off
to
them
for
the
job
that
they're
doing
on
the
job.
Fair
is
a
good
example.
You
know
I'm
in
there
more
often
than
they
want,
but
but
the
week
before
the
job
fair
happened,
I
saw
the
chart.
I
actually
saw
it
for
about
three
weeks.
They
started
with
five,
and
then
it
was
ten
employers
and
it
you
know,
and
they
were
pushing
every
day
they
were
calling
people.
Why
haven't
you
registered?
Why
are
you
going
to
be
a
participant
and
they
weren't
going
to?
S
They
were
going
to
make
sure
that
when
it
was
all
said
and
done
that
there
were
more
employers
at
the
job
fair
than
they
were
the
year
before,
and
so
we
had
3,000
people
attend.
We
had
about
1,500
jobs
that
that
have
been
applied
for
I
mean
that's
all
from
an
economic
development
standpoint.
That's
a
really
positive,
and
if
you
can
see
this
crowd
behind
the
scene,
let
out
you
know.
S
I
we've
got
some
that
are
working
right
now,
can't
talk
about
it,
but
the
linamar
that
that's
here
most
people
love
these
people,
because
they're
doing
and
still
working
with
them
on
a
daily
basis
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
the
right
kind
of
employees
applying
for
jobs.
If
they're,
if
there's
some
problem
that
that
comes
up
that
can
help
them
with
then
they
call
in
and
they
they
continue
to
do
that
they're
not
going
to
once
they
announce
you
just
don't
forget
about
this
is
an
ongoing
process.
S
S
The
the
expanding
ones
in
the
community,
thermo
Fisher,
has
become
800
jobs
in
this
community
at
900
jobs
in
this
community
working
with
those
people
every
day,
I
mean
they
have
a
back
office
operation.
They
have
a
manufacturing
operation
they've,
just
they
just
they
like
this
area,
so
well
they've
cleared
out
a
space
and
brought
it
another
product
line
in
that
created
that
hundred
and
ten
jobs.
That
was
announced
the
people
few
weeks
ago.
So
it's
all
it's
a
good
good
prospect
for
all
of
us
and.
B
Now
that
Commissioner
Bailey
has
some
shed
a
lot
of
light
on
stuff.
My
my
comments,
we're
going
to
be,
of
course
thanks
to
Clark
and
Ben,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
here
is
another
example
of
partnerships
and
what
you're
looking
at
is
a
partnership
between
the
county.
Who
has
a
commissioner
who
is
the
head
of
the
chairman
of
the
EDC
Commission?
It's
it's
incredible.
How
things
have
to
work
in
partnerships?
We
have
this
gentleman
who,
as
he
he
will
say-
and
these
two
gentlemen
will
probably
agree.
B
He
probably
shows
up
that
over
there
more
than
they
want
him
to,
but
he
works
every
day
to
get
jobs
into
Buncombe
County.
As
to
the
gentleman
who
spoken
to
you,
but
it's
all
about
partnerships
and-
and
my
praise
was
going
to
go
to
Commissioner
Bailey
and
the
great
partnership
that
we
have
with
the
county
with
the
chamber,
and
that
doesn't
just
happen.
O
A
We
earlier
today
interviewed
a
large
number
of
Planning
Board
applicants.
We
will
will
be
interviewing
some
more
applicants
in
two
weeks
and
we
will
probably
be
appointing
that
board
on
us
on
our
17th
January
17
meeting.
We
do
have
today
a
nursing
home,
Community,
Advisory
Committee
vacancy.
Are
there
any
nominations.
F
A
Alright,
any
other
nominations
we
do
have
five
vacancies,
so
this
will
be
filling
one
of
the
fine.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed.
No,
he
is
really
is
appointed.
We
also
have
current
vacancies
on
crime,
stoppers
board
of
directors.
We
have
two
vacancies
on
that
board:
montreat
Board
of
Adjustment.
We
have
one
vacancy
representing
the
ET,
je
extraterritorial
jurisdiction.
A
We
have
one
montreat
planning
and
zoning
appointment
vacancy
also
from
the
ET
je,
and
then
we
have
one
economic
development
coalition
vacancy
that
we've
just
heard
from
that
will
be
we're
looking
for
applicants
and
nominations
their
announcements,
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
board
will
be
January
17
2012,
beginning
at
four-thirty,
and
our
Commission
meetings
can
be
seen
on
bc.
Tv
charter,
cable,
channel
to
ATT,
uverse
channel
99,
live
on
buncombe
county
org
during
the
meetings
or
anytime
live
online
at
buncombe
county
org.
U
A
Right
then,
what
we
have
left
is
public
comment.
The
official
business
of
the
county
is
now
concluded
and
will
hold
public
comment.
The
time
limit
for
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires
and
you
may
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board
members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
that
is
during
public
comment.
Comments
should
be
limited
to
subjects
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
this
commission
and
pertinent
to
the
matters
with
on
which
we
may
act
any
individual.
A
Speaking
during
public
comment
shall
address
the
entire
board.
Any
polling
of
the
board
members
is
inappropriate.
Persons
addressing
the
board
are
expected
to
observe
the
decorum
of
the
chamber
and
be
respectful
of
everybody
in
the
room.
Any
person
who
willfully
interrupts
disturbs
or
disrupts
the
session
will
be
asked
to
leave
the
meeting
and
the
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
any
subject.
That's
previously
been
presented
to
the
board.
T
T
T
H
Q
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members,
board
jobs,
jobs,
jobs.
You
know
that
sounds
so
pretty.
It
sounds
like
president
Baum
when
he
said
we
won't
change.
Remember
that
big
word
every
time
I
hear
jobs.
It
makes
it
my
skin
crawl
because
we
have
jobs
around
here,
but
they
don't
pay
nothing.
We
get
plenty
of
job,
but
they
don't
pay
nothing.
They
don't
keep
nobody.
We
take
mrs.
stone
of
here
her
department,
my
gosh.
They
got
medicaid
running
after
ears
for
people
that
ain't
got
no
jobs.
Q
Q
We
wouldn't
have
as
many
people
on
disability
Medicaid.
If
we
had
real
jobs,
that's
not
a
good
campaign
speech.
Oh,
is
it
one
thing
I'd
like
to
talk
about
taxpayers.
We
had
the
chamber
person
here,
we
had
TDA
and
we
just
saw
in
the
paper
where
forty-one
percent
of
the
building
was
being
sold
to
accompany.
My
question
is
tourism,
development
and
chambers
got
millions
of
dollars
over
the
years
that
I've
been
here
for
about
twenty
and
millions
of
dollars?
It
went
out.
Q
Q
Another
question
is:
why
couldn't
we
rent
this
space
to
these
folks
and
have
a
return
on
our
investment
each
year,
rather
than
one
lump
sum,
and
why
couldn't
that
go
back
to
the
county
each
year,
rather
than
settling
the
building
light
out
to
me,
I
think
we
need
some
people
with
thinking
heads
rather
than
selling
something
like
that
to
me.
We
oversized
it
to
begin
with
and
I
remember
the
day
when
is
begging
and
begging
and
pleading
were
to
get
the
money
out
and
how
he's
going
to
build
it.
Now
we
build
it
now.
Q
What
happened
they
left
here?
Somebody
did
now.
The
question
would
be
if
we've
got
all
these
jobs.
Why
are
we
selling
this
to
it
accompanied
to
come
in
here
and
take
over
this
space?
If
we're
getting
all
these
jobs
in
here,
we
ought
to
have
more
space
for
these
people
to
be
in
to
create
more
jobs.
I
mean
to
me.
It
looks
like
that
we
must
be
in
devastation
of
jobs
or
we
wouldn't
be
selling
part
of
the
building
or
either
we
overcompensated.