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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (May 21, 2019)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for May 21, 2019. To view the meeting agenda, or previous Commissioner Meeting videos, you can visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
This
is
the
day
that
our
nation
has
set
aside
to
honor
and
remember
the
men
and
women
who
died
while
in
active
military
military
service
of
the
United
States,
there
will
be
a
Memorial
Day
service
at
the
Western
North
Carolina
Veterans
Cemetery
in
Black
Mountain
on
Monday,
starting
at
10:00
a.m.
in
that
afternoon
there
will
be
a
Memorial
Day
ceremony
and
concert
featuring.
The
Army
National
Guard's
army
band,
held
on
the
Roger
McGuire
green
in
downtown
Asheville
on
Monday,
beginning
at
2:30
p.m.
A
the
public
is
invited
and
welcomed
to
attend
these
events,
along
with
other
events
being
held
in
our
mountains.
Before
we
begin
before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening,
let's
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
all
the
men
and
women
who
have
died
serving
our
country.
Please
join
us
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
If
you
have
a
cellphone,
please
turn
it
off
or
put
it
on
mute
I'd
like
to
announce
that
if
you
use
the
county
parking
facility
to
attend
this
meeting,
you
can
have
your
parking
validated
by
one
of
the
officers
on
the
way
out
or
if
you
used
Asheville
transit
to
attend
the
meeting.
You
can
have
your
transit
ticket
also
validated.
A
Let
me
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
in
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
A
A
C
A
D
Mr.
chairman,
thank
you,
members
of
the
Commission
appreciate
you
making
time
and
let
me
speak
tonight
giving
you
an
update
on
where
we
are
for
the
last
year
of
the
airport
operations
I've
been
I,
have
given
you
a
hard
copy
of
our
2018
animal
report.
You
have
electronically,
but
you
have
a
hard
copy.
The
annual
report
basically
has
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
our
team
members
that
work
for
the
authority
and
what
we
all
are
dedicated
to
do
for
the
community.
D
So
we
have
for
2018
from
an
air
service
perspective.
We
had
six
carriers,
Allegiant
airlines,
American,
Delta
elite
spirit
and
United
Allegiant
has
41
percent
of
the
market
share.
American
is
22
percent
of
the
market
share
Delta's,
22
percent
of
the
market
share
elites.
One
spirit
is
eight
and
United.
As
six.
We
added
Spirit
Airlines
in
the
fall
of
2018.
The
cities
we
now
serve
include
Newark
LaGuardia,
Chicago,
Charlotte,
Atlanta,
Baltimore,
Fort,
Lauderdale,
Sanford,
Orlando,
Orlando,
st.
D
Pete
Tampa
Vero,
Beach
Denver
and
Punta
Gorda
Florida,
and
we
just
started,
announced
the
late
last
year
and
just
started
recently
with
Philadelphia
Dallas
Fort
Worth,
Detroit,
Washington,
Dulles
and
Sarasota
Florida.
Our
passions
were
up
19%
for
the
year
2018,
which
was
1.1
million,
and
our
seats
were
up
18%
for
a
total
of
690
2851
seats
in
the
marketplace.
For
the
year
largest
increase
was
Allegiant
at
43%
of
the
market
share
from
an
operation
perspective,
we
had
19,000
370
airline
operations,
which
was
up
2.9
percent
general
aviation
military
was
down
eleven
point.
D
Eight
percent
for
total
of
forty
1928
operations.
Asheville
was
named
the
second
fastest
growing
small
hub
airport
in
the
country
by
Bloomberg
News.
From
a
construction
standpoint.
We
continued
on
face
forward
the
runway
project.
We
constructed
a
new
aircraft,
parking,
apron
adjacent
to
the
terminal
building
and
we
completed
a
terminal
assessment
study
looking
at
where
we're
taking
the
new
terminal
or
a
terminal
in
the
years
to
come.
D
Part
of
the
infrastructure
study
had
to
deal
with
the
new
water
and
sewer
systems
and
then
a
terminal
building
which
we're
currently
at
113
thousand
square
feet
total
in
the
terminal
building,
and
currently
we
should
be
around
225
thousand
square
feet
with
the
growth
that
we've
seen
from
a
community
perspective.
We
enter
and
did
for
third
year
in
a
row
wings
for
autism,
we
honored
and
did
the
Blue
Ridge
Honor
Flight.
We
had
a
United
Way
day
of
impact
involving
all
the
or
a
good
majority
of
the
airport
employees.
D
We
had
passenger
Appreciation
Day
six
events
and
all
one
was
Bojangles
coming
in
on
our
baggage
carousel
for
the
for
arriving
passengers
and
another
was
an
ice
cream,
sundae
social.
We
did
pause
for
passengers,
which
is
our
pet
therapy
dog
program
and
on
valentyn
Day
Valentine's
Day.
We
did
kisses
with
pooches
which
actually
got
national
attention
and
some
intimated
major
media
press
from
an
hour.
We
still
continue
to
do
artwork
in
the
terminal
which
included
WNC
magazine
images
of
Western,
North,
Carolina,
photo
contest
and
student
artwork.
D
We
continue
to
be
recognized
in
an
award
winning
for
our
music
on
the
fly
program.
We
sponsor
the
North
Carolina
Apple
Festival,
and
we
also
did
Flat
Rock
Playhouse
to
name
a
few
from
a
financial
standpoint.
The
airport
sitting
in
pretty
good
shape.
Our
operating
revenues
for
the
year
were
twelve
million
twelve
point
four
million
dollars.
Our
operating
expenses
were
eight
point,
two
million
giving
us
a
four
point:
two
million
dollar
fund
balance
surplus.
Our
our
assets
at
the
end
of
the
year
were
one
hundred
thirty
nine
million
dollars.
A
All
right,
I,
don't
see
the
initial
questions,
just
just
a
great
report
and
the
things
are
obviously
it's
really
thriving
at
the
airport.
So
congratulations
and
all
the
you
know
really
I
mean
it's
a
growing
area,
but
the
growth
of
the
airport
has
grown
even
faster
than
the
just
natural
population
growth
in
the
region.
So
obviously
a
lot
of
good
things
are
happening
there
and
I
know.
A
lot
of
folks
are
enjoying
a
lot
of
the
new
connections
from
Asheville
to
other
two
other
cities.
D
You
just
just
we
are
growing
very
rapidly.
We
saw
a
59
percent
increase
in
passenger
traffic
in
the
month
of
March
over
last
March
and
so
forth
for
the
quarter
we're
at
forty
five
percent
over
the
previous
year
for
the
first
quarter.
So
we
are,
we
are
knocking
out
of
the
park
with
our
community
using
the
airport
and,
of
course,
visitors
coming
to
see
Asheville
and
the
region
well,.
A
That's
great
and
I
know
we
want
to.
We
want
to
encourage,
you
know
all
the
folks
in
Asheville
in
Buncombe,
County
and
Western
North
Carolina
to
you
know
to
look
first
to
flying
out
of
Asheville.
It's
a
it's
a
virtuous
cycle.
We
have
the
more
folks
who
use
it
the
better,
the
pricing,
the
more
connections
we
have
so
the
more
we
use
our
our
hometown,
Airport,
the
better
it
is
for
all
of
us.
So
we're
glad
that's
happening.
We
want
to
encourage
everyone
to
do
that,
whatever
possible.
Thank
you
any
other.
D
Had
some
construction
issues
over
the
last
two
years
with
the
contractor
we
hired
long
story
short.
We
are
under
another
contract
now
with
the
bonding
company
from
the
defaulted
contractor,
and
we
are
hoping
to
have
the
runway
completed
by
the
end
of
this
year,
with
the
remaining
of
the
work
can
being
completed
next
spring.
That's
we're
being
very
optimistic
about
that,
but
we
have
to
be
worst
case,
there's
probably
some
time
next
summer
we'd
have
it
all
finished
up.
D
There
are
no
public
dollar
tax
dollars
going
into
the
use
of
the
airport,
so
we
don't
worry
about
that,
but
because
of
the
contract
delayed
over
two
years
cost
of
constructions
going
up.
We
all
know
how
hard
it
is
to
find
contractors.
Today,
their
prices
are
are
getting
rather
high,
so
we
are
incurring
about
an
additional
20
million
dollars
for
the
project.
A
Alright,
well,
there's
no
other
questions
at
this
time.
Mr.
Blahous,
it's
good
to
see
you
thanks
for
the
update,
appreciate
it
Thank
You
mr.
yeah,
all
right.
Next
up,
we
have
an
update
on
the
via
health,
quarterly
financials
and
Clark
Phillip.
The
CFO
is
here
to
help
us
out
with
that
Thank
You,
Thank,
You,
chairman
and.
F
Members
of
the
Commission,
let
me
introduce
a
couple
of
our
staff
members
they're
here
with
health.
Ryan
Ingram
is
our
chief
executive
officer.
Angela
Garner
is
our
county
representative
and
Don.
Roose
is
our
senior
director
of
provider
operations?
We
our
report
consists
of
about
four
documents.
The
latest
report
we
sent
out
was
on
April
the
30th
and
it
was
for
the
nine
months
ended
March
the
31st.
He
consists
of
four
documents,
which
is
a
cover
or
transmittal
letter.
A
fiscal
monitoring
report
and
I
have
hard
copies
if
anybody
would
like
a
hard
copy.
F
So
those
who
have
already
been
furnished
to
the
Commission,
the
fiscal
monitoring
report,
there's
an
exhibit
on
the
spendable
cash,
the
reality
of
spendable
cash
and
then
there's
a
two-page
document
regarding
comments
and
explanations.
So,
in
the
cover
letter
we
try
to
explain
what's
going
on
with
with
via
health,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
the
state-
and
you
may
have
heard
some
discussion
around
l,
amis
and
their
cash
positions,
and
you
may
have
even
heard
the
statement
that
the
Ella
Me's
have
a
billion
dollars
in
cash
and
are
not
spending
that
on
services.
F
In
fact,
there
are
several
references,
both
in
the
general
statutes
in
our
contract,
with
the
state
and
in
reports
to
the
legislative
oversight
committees
that
state
that
those
those
Medicaid
risk
reserve
funds
cannot
be
used
for
anything
other
than
to
pay
provider
claims
in
the
case
of
insolvency,
and
it
has
to
be
approved
by
DHHS.
So
why
is
that
important?
F
Okay,
that's
important
because
it
overstates
our
cash
position,
it
overstates
our
fund
balance
and
it
overstates
the
effect
on
income
and
losses
for
the
year.
So
turning
to
the
fiscal
monitoring
report,
which
is
the
second
page
of
the
report
there,
there
are
several
sections:
there's
a
revenue
section
which
details
the
mo
e
money
from
the
from
the
counties.
There
is
an
expenditures
section,
there's
also
a
funny
net
income
in
lost
section,
as
well
as
a
fund
balance
and
a
cash
position.
F
F
How
are
the
funds
from
funding
County
spent,
so
we
have
a
exhibit
which
shows
that
the
maintenance
of
effort
funds
are
actually
directed
by
the
county
on
how
those
are
to
be
spent.
Now
we
haven't
received
the
the
Alec
the
directions
for
the
coming
fiscal
year,
but
here's
how
they
were
spent
in
fiscal
year.
F
So
that's
how
this
funds
for
Buncombe
County
were
spent.
If
you
go
on
down
to
the
total
revenue
section,
the
total
revenue
line
in
the
end,
the
actual
column
here
today,
which
is
column
four,
you
will
see
that
year
to
date,
we've
we've
received
about
three
hundred
and
seventeen
million
dollars
in
revenue.
And
if
you
go
right
below
that
to
the
next
section,
you
have
the
total
expenditures
which
are
about
three
hundred
and
thirteen
thousand
dollars
three
hundred.
Yes,
thirteen
thousand
dollars
a
year
today
that
makes
it
appear
that
we've
made
about
four
million
dollars.
F
However,
that
includes
the
Medicaid
risk
reserve
funds
that
we
talked
about
earlier
and
if
you
pull
those
Medicaid
risk
reserve
funds
out
which
we
cannot
touch,
we
have
to
keep
them
in
a
separate
bank
account.
We
cannot
use
them
for
any
purpose,
even
for
the
appropriation
to
balance
the
budget.
If
you
pull
those
almost
five
million
dollars
out,
we've
actually
lost
almost
a
million
dollars
in
the
first
nine
months.
So
where
are
we
gonna
be
at
the
end
of
the
year?
F
Well,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
gonna
have
about
four
hundred
fifteen
million
dollars
in
revenue
about
four
hundred
and
thirty
one
million
dollars
in
expenses.
So
we're
gonna
lose
about
sixteen
million
dollars,
not
counting
the
Medicaid
risk
reserve
revenue,
and
if
you
count
that
back
in
then
it's
a
ten
million
dollar
loss.
So,
that's
why
it's
important
to
understand
the
effect
of
the
Medicaid
risk
reserve.
It
distorts
our
financials
and
makes
them
look
better
than
they
actually
are.
So
where
does
that?
What
does
that
do
to
us
on
fund
balance?
F
Well,
we
have
about
83
million
dollars
in
funds,
but
since
43
million
of
that
is,
Medicaid
risk
reserve
and
another
20
is
restricted
by
state
statutes.
That
only
leaves
us
about
19
million
dollars.
An
unrestricted
fund
balance
same
thing
happens
on
cash.
We
have
about
99
million
dollars
in
cash
at
the
end
of
March,
when
you
pull
out
the
forty-three
million
dollars
of
Medicaid
risk
reserve,
which
we
can't
touch.
That
leaves
us
with
56
million
dollars
in
cash.
However,
if
you
will
look
at
the
next
exhibit,
which
is
the.
F
Here's
here's
here's
why
we
don't
really
have
as
much
cash
as
it
looks
like
we
do.
First
of
all,
we
have,
if
you
take
the
fund,
the
cash
balance
of
fifty
six
million
dollars,
and
you
add
back
in
the
things
that
are
owed
to
us
and
you
subtract
out
the
things
that
are
that
we
have
to
pay
to
other
people
that
have
already
been
incurred.
That's
about
twenty
five
million
dollars
that
you
take
right
out
of
the
56
million
dollars,
so
that
leaves
us
with
about
31
32
million
dollars
in
cash.
F
At
that
point
now
any
prudent
business
would
have
on
hand
at
least
30
days
worth
of
cash
for
via
health.
Since
we
spend
about
1.1
million
dollars
a
day
in
services
and
the
management
of
those
services,
we
would
have
to
keep
34
million
dollars
in
cash
on
in
reserve.
As
you
can
see
once
you
subtract
all
of
those
things
out,
we
write
and
actually
in
a
negative
spendable
cash
position.
F
G
You
can
tell
our
financing
is
a
little
complex
before
I
say
anything
more
about
that.
I
want
to
be
sure
to
recognize
Jim
Holland,
who
has
been
a
fantastic
representative
for
Buncombe
County
on
our
board
and
I,
understand
you're
retiring
Jim,
so
I
I'm
sure
you
have
mixed
feelings
about
that.
We'll
miss
him
greatly
and
I'm
gonna
give
him
a
nice
send-off
at
the
board
meeting
in
July,
but
essentially.
G
There
there's
some
some
simple
things
that
I
try
to
represent
and
Jim
you've
seen
this
one
before
I
know,
and
it
really
provides
some
context
to
how
important
maintenance
of
effort
funding
is
and
single-stream
funding.
And
again
you
have
to
remember
that
we
have
responsibility
for
individuals
that
both
have
Medicaid
and
have
no
Medicaid
or
no
insurance
and
our
biggest
challenge
from
a
service
perspective
is
meeting
the
needs
of
those
individuals
without
insurance,
so
county
support
in
the
in
the
case
of
Buncombe
County.
G
The
the
funding
that
you
provide
for
services
would
fit
into
that
non-medicaid
category,
so
that
represents
services
to
people
who
cannot
have
services
paid
for
by
Medicaid,
which
is
a
well
as
you
can
see
from
the
chart.
There's
an
enormous
discrepancy
here
and
let
me
just
try
to
walk
you
through
this.
G
Then
you
look
at
the
green
bar,
which
is
the
persons
receiving
services,
okay
and
that's
what
we
refer
to
as
penetration.
So
we
have
the
prevalence
of
conditions.
We
have
people's
ability
to
access
care,
and
you
see
we
do
very
well
on
that.
In
fact,
one
of
the
things
we're
most
proud
of
as
an
LME
MCO
is
that
for
both
Medicaid
and
non
Medicaid
we
have
the
highest
penetration
rate
of
any
LME
MCO
in
the
state.
G
That
means,
if
you
look
at
dollars
in
services,
the
ratio
of
that
for
us
is
higher
than
any
other
LME
MCL.
So
that's
important
to
know
in
terms
of
access
and
then
the
final
bar.
There
is
money,
and
you
see
the
huge
discrepancy
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
funding
that
exists
for
the
uninsured
and
the
amount
of
funding
that
exists
for
the
Medicaid
population,
and
you
know
without
making
any
sort
of
political
statement.
G
You
know
we're
a
state
that
has
not
expanded
Medicaid,
and
you
see
that
very
dramatically
reflected
here
in
the
challenge
of
meeting
care
for
individuals
without
Medicaid.
The
context
for
this
is
that
all
of
that
maintenance
of
effort
funding
is
extremely
valuable
to
us
in
terms
of
the
services
that
can
be
provided
for
that
non
Medicaid
population.
So
that
was
a
whirlwind
tour
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
H
Question
actually
going
back
to
the
fund
balance
issue:
mm-hmm.
Could
you
we
have
a
lot
of
interesting
internal
discussions
about
fund
balance
and
sort
of
the
both
the
philosophy
and
sort
of
practical
choices
around
it?
Can
you
talk
about
sort
of
the
how
you
all
think
about
that
19
million
an
unrestricted
fund
balance
in
terms
of
when
and
how
it
might
be
allocated
and
for
what
types
of
purposes
we.
G
Ce3
at
3:56,
is
probably
one
of
the
best
examples
here
in
in
Buncombe
County
and
the
commitment
of
probably
around
six
million
dollars
that
we
made
towards
that.
So
over
time
we
have
used
that
fund
balance
to
reinvest
in
services
until
we
got
to
the
point
where
we
didn't
have
enough
money
to
make
that
reinvestment
and
and
as
Clark
pointed
out.
If
you
look
at
you
a
real,
simple
cash
spendable
equation,
you
know
we're
down
to
about
19
days
of
cash,
so
our
ability
to
reinvest
in
community
services
and
programs
has
had
to
stop.
G
You
know
and
we're
in
negotiation
now
with
the
state
around
our
rate
and
what
kind
of
budget
we're
going
to
have
for
next
year.
So
right
now
we're
not
doing
anything
with
that
money.
I
mean
it's
it's
again.
If
you
look
at
that
30
days
of
cash,
its
kind
of
what
you
want
to
keep
on
hand,
you
know
right
now
we
can't
meet
that
I.
C
Have
a
follow-up
question
to
that
in
regards
to
looking
at
your
state
funding,
I
have
heard
that
one
of
the
things
on
the
discussion
block
is
the
school-based
mental
health
services.
That
vea
provides.
Am
I
hearing
that
correctly
that
that
may
not
be
provided
moving
forward?
Is
that
miscommunication?
It.
G
Would
I
think
depend
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
if
it
is
something
that
is
a
service
that
is
reimbursed
by
Medicaid,
that's
going
to
be
part
of
our
capitation
okay.
Now
we
are
in
the
midst
of
an
enormous
change
that
is
Medicaid
transformation,
with
the
creation
of
standard
plans
that
the
commercial
insurance
companies
are
going
to
be
offering
and
individuals
will
have
an
opportunity
to
either
be
in
a
standard
plan
or
a
tailored
plan.
G
So
there
might
be
some
mix
of
things
that
is
confusing
people
with
that,
but
by
and
large
for
services
that
are
reimbursed
by
Medicaid,
a
lot
of
kids
have
Medicaid.
So
generally,
that's
a
good
population
for
us
to
meet
the
service
needs
of
there
shouldn't
be
any
specific
reductions
around
that
now.
If
it
is
for
a
program
that
doesn't
is
not
reimbursed
by
Medicaid,
that
could
be
a
different
situation
just
for
the
reasons
I
Ellis
trated,
but
we'd
have
to
kind
of
go
to
more
specifics
about
it,
but.
G
C
I
G
G
Our
next
challenge
as
part
of
Medicaid
transformation
will
be
to
evolve
to
be
a
contractor
for
tailored
plans
which
will
deal
with
whole
person
care
and
by
that
I
mean
an
individual's
physical
health
needs,
as
well
as
their
specialty
care
needs.
Behavioral
health
and
idd
changing
from
a
company
that
now
just
deals
with
specialty
care
to
one
that
deals
with
a
very
focused
high-intensity
group
for
whole
person
care
we're
in
the
midst
of
making
that
transition-
and
you
know
the
money
issue
is
one
where
you
know
you
really.
G
As
Clark
said,
this
is
a
challenge
all
across
the
state
in
terms
of
the
public
model
that
the
state
has
invested
in
for
about
ten
years,
around
LME
MCO
s,
and
our
is
the
state
going
to
continue
to
support
that
model.
I
mean
that's
really.
The
question
in
terms
of
legislation:
we
have
the
opportunity
to
go
forward
and
evolve
our
business,
but
we
have
to
remain
viable
financially,
so
you
know
we're
not
looking
for
bake
sales
and
car
washes
yet,
but
we
also
recognize
that
we
have
to
adjust
our
business
model.
A
All
right
not
seeing
any
other
questions,
so
thank
you
very
much
to
all
of
you
for
being
here
tonight
and
giving
us
an
update
and
answering
some
of
the
questions.
Thank
you.
Thanks
for
your
work
before
we
go
to
the
next
item,
a
I've
been
remiss
I
wanted
to
knowledge.
We've
got
a
sheriff
Quinton
Miller
with
us
here
this
evening,
sheriff
Miller,
thank
you
for
being
with
us,
and
it's
always
good
to
see
thanks
for
being
with
us
all
right.
A
J
Was
together
with
the
Board
of
Commissioners
earlier
today,
working
on
a
conversation
around
strategic
partnership
grants,
my
name
is
Rachel
Nygaard
and
I
am
their
strategic
partnerships
director.
One
of
the
things
that
I
support
in
that
role
is
investments
of
county
funds
or
investments
that
we
pull
in
from
outside
sources
in
the
counties.
Priorities
and
I
also
have
the
opportunity
to
support
collaborations
across
our
many
departments
and
with
our
community
stakeholders
on
top
policy
issues.
J
So
tonight
is
an
opioid
update,
and
this
was
added
to
the
agenda
really
as
a
request
from
commissioners
who
wanted
to
hear
more
about
some
of
the
latest
efforts
within
opioids
and
our
response
to
this,
and
we
thought
it
would
be
helpful
to
pan
out
a
little
bit
and
offer
some
framing.
So
we're
providing
this
presentation
to
you
in
three
parts.
I
will
try
to
keep
it
brief
and
get
out
of
the
way
so
that
our
departments
that
are
working
more
closely
on
a
day
to
day
basis
can
spend
time.
Talking
with
you.
J
What
we're
seeing
just
in
terms
of
current
need
and
what
the
county's
response
in
general
has
been
and
then
passed
to
Amy
Pam
who's
representing
public
health
with
in
Buncombe
County's
health
and
human
services
department,
who
will
then
pass
after
covering
the
emergency
overdose
grant
and
the
work
that
public
health
is
doing.
She'll
pass
to
Sarah
Gadon
who's
representing
the
sheriff's
office
this
evening,
and
they
will
talk.
Commissioner
beachwear
had
given
an
introduction
to
an
issue
at
a
recent
pre
meeting,
which
is
m80
or
medication
and
assisted
treatment
and
the
exploratory
that
work.
J
As
a
reminder,
we've
got
six
strategic
priorities
as
a
County,
and
these
were
established
in
December
of
2017
and
opioids
at
that.
At
that
time
we
are
really
seeing
a
lot
of
increases
here
locally,
as
well
as
across
the
nation,
in
the
extreme
outcome
that
this
substance
use
disorder
was
having
in
our
communities,
including
overdoses
and
fatal
overdoses,
and
we'll
look
at
some
of
that
data
in
a
minute.
J
I
brought
dropped
in
some
of
the
slides
from
those
early
days
and
at
that
time,
even
though
it
wasn't
very
long
ago,
there
was
a
lot
of
Education
that
we
were
doing
about.
What
exactly
is
this?
What
do
we
mean
by
opioids
and
I
think
that
the
community
awareness
around
opioids
has
really
increased
a
lot
over
that
time,
but
as
a
reminder,
we're
looking
at
things
that
are
both
prescription
painkillers
as
well
as
illegal
or
illicit
opioid
based
drugs
like
heroin
and
fentanyl.
J
One
of
the
reasons
that
this
epidemic
has
been
so
severe
is
how
dependent
people
can
become
very
quickly.
The
potency
of
these
substances
is
extreme.
We
have
the
a
lot
of
resources
available
to
us
as
a
County
through
the
states
north
north
carolina
injury
and
violence
prevention,
branch,
which
is
within
Health
and
Human
Services,
and
they
make
available
slides
for
communities
and
the
next
few
you'll
see
their
logo
at
the
bottom.
We've
pulled
these
statistics
in
we
have
some
information
on
the
coming
slides
as
well.
J
J
One
of
the
data
points
that
we
looked
at
previously
was
the
prescribing
rates
in
the
community
and
found
pretty
alarming
prescribe
rates.
You
might
remember
hearing
the
test
statistic
around
almost
68
pills
for
every
man,
woman
and
child
in
Buncombe
County.
The
good
news
is
that
those
prescribing
rates
are
going
down.
Maybe
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
is
contributing
to
that
in
the
work
of
our
community
partners
around
educating
patients
and
consumers,
as
well
as
providing
more
resources
to
people
within
the
medical
community.
A
Have
a
question
come
back
to
the
previous
slide,
so
that's
that's
I
feel
like
this
is
one
of
the
maybe
maybe
be
like
the
most
important
metric
right
like
how
many
of
these
really
addictive
pills
are
just
flowing
into
the
community
right,
because
we
know
that
a
lot
of
them
will
end
up.
You
know
leading
to
a
lot
of
people
getting
addicted
to
them.
A
A
That's
my
question
is:
do
we
know
like
if,
if
things
were
being
done
right
like
no
one's
saying
there
shouldn't
be
any
prescription,
painkillers
used,
there's
a
place
for
them,
but
14
million.
So
instead
of
it's
68
pills
for
every
man,
woman
and
child,
now
it's
fifty
something
right
that
still
seems
way
too
high.
Of
course
right.
So
what's
the
right
number
I
wouldn't.
J
And
that
was
state-level
data.
This
is
also
state-level
data.
This
is
one
of
the
statistics
that
sticks
out
in
people's
minds
that
in
North
Carolina
you're,
more
likely
to
die
from
an
opioid
overdose
than
a
car
accident.
Motor
vehicle
death
rates
have
been
declining
and
opioid
overdoses
have
been
on
the
rise
or
poisoning
poisoning
overdose
in
Buncombe
County,
specifically,
we
can
look
at
overdose
deaths,
and
that
is
the
data.
J
That's
in
that
first
bullet
went
from
38
in
2015
to
92
in
2017
those
are
lagging
indicators,
so
it
takes
a
little
time
to
get
that
information
back.
2017
is
the
most
current
information
that
we
have
so
one
thing
that
we
can
look
at
that's
more
current
is
overdose
visits
to
emergency
departments,
and
so
that's
not
fatal.
J
J
Another
population
or
community
level
thing
that
we
look
at
is
communicable
diseases
that
are
correlated
infections
that
are
correlated
with
injection
drug
use.
The
top
three
are
those
reportable
infections
that
we
can
get
good
data
from,
because
all
providers
are
reporting
this
and
the
information
gets
correlated,
but
we're
also
seeing
Rises
and
some
of
these
other
infections
on
the
list.
The
chart
shows
rises
in
dr.
Mallin.
Doors
should
be
the
one
describing
this
on.
K
J
L
J
Spread
of
infectious
disease,
so
quick
tour
of
our
response,
which
we
categorize
in
five
areas-
public
awareness,
prevention,
treatment
and
wellness
harm
reduction
and
accountability.
I
won't
have
time
to
stop
at
each
item
on
each
screen,
but
just
highlighting
a
couple
of
things
as
we
go
along
the
commissioners,
the
Board
of
Commissioners
was
very
involved
when
we
first
kicked
off
our
opioid
work
in
hosting
the
town
halls
and
getting
together
with
members
of
the
public,
and
we
had
some
education
campaigns
that
spun
out
of
this.
J
J
Education
at
the
provider,
level
and
prescriber
looks
different,
but
this
was
an
example
of
something
that
was
geared
at
patients
and
parents
and
coaches
and
things
of
that
nature.
We
engage
another
awareness
event
you
heard
about
recently
was
the
youth
opioid
summit,
which
was
in
its
second
year
and
very
successful
coordinated
by
the
partnership
for
substance
for
youth.
J
There
are
prevention
efforts
that
take
many
shapes
and
forms.
The
interagency
planning
teams
sounds
a
little
boring,
but
those
are
lively
tables
where
we
get
together
with
stakeholders
from
all
of
the
other
organizations
like
via
health
and
our
our
treatment
provider,
community
or
medical
practices,
and
talk
about
what
can
we
do
across
systems?
So
examples
of
those
teams
are
there's
an
m-80
roundtable.
J
J
Moving
through
quickly
harm
reduction
continues
as
an
example
the
drug
take-back
event
that
was
held
in
April,
coordinated
by
the
leadership
for
the
Sheriff's
Office
and
also
our
community
partners.
There
were
nine
locations
on
that
drug
take-back
day
that
collected
about
200
pounds
of
unused
medications.
J
The
way
it's
described
as
a
multi
district
litigation,
there's
over
a
thousand
different
jurisdiction,
cities
and
counties
that
are
together
on
this
litigation
and
Buncombe
County
is
one
of
12
that
have
participation
in
a
steering
committee
that
works
with
the
litigators
there's
a
group
of
firms
that
are
trying
this
that
are
working
on
this
case
with
leadership
from
Baron
and
Budd,
which
was
selected
by
this
board.
So
we
haven't
heard
the
status
of
this
lawsuit
lately,
but
it
continues
and
so.
M
I've
been
to
two
of
those
meetings:
I
can
tell
you
one
of
the
representing
the
county
with
those
with
the
attorneys
I
can
tell
you
one
of
the
reasons
you
haven't
heard.
Anything
is
there
as
a
various
serious
gag
order
on
those
on
those
meetings.
It's
a
very
serious.
It's
very
serious.
The
approach
is
very
aggressive
and
you
know,
but
the
but
the
problem
is
it's
big
enough
that
it
needs
that
kind
of
action.
So
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
you
haven't
heard
a
lot
behind.
J
Also
worked
to
leverage
outside
funding
to
the
extent
possible
Amy
when
she
comes
up,
is
going
to
talk
about
the
emergency
overdose
grant.
There
is
an
opportunity
to
access
with
support
from
our
partners
at
via,
through
the
work
in
the
detention
facility,
some
SOR
sorce
state,
opioid
response
funds
to
support
our
local
work
and
county.
A
team
of
cross
departmental
representatives
from
County
staff
are
looking
at
right
now.
Is
there
a
proposal
that
we
could
put
together
for
the
last
one
on
the
list
which
is
known
as
cope?
This
is
the
comprehensive
opioid
abuse
program.
N
Hello,
well,
my
name
is
Amy
a
boom
and
I
am
the
project
coordinator
for
overdose
reduction
with
the
Department
of
Health.
You
know
I'm
gonna,
just
keep
keep
talking
here.
So
the
emergency
overdose
grant
is
a
time-limited
state
grant
of
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
It
was
a
awarded
in
October
of
2018.
It
goes
to
August
31st
of
2019.
It
addresses
four
unmet
needs
for
pretty
big
on
met
needs,
community
health,
education,
naloxone,
availability,
syringe
disposal
and
syringe
services.
N
So
we
got
up
and
running
really
quick
with
this
grant.
Cuz
we
had
to,
but
also
because
it's
important,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that's
been
underway
now
for
a
few
months,
is
community
education.
As
you
know,
we've
been
doing
community
education
on
prevention
for
a
while,
but
now
we're
also.
We
also
have
a
harm
reduction
training
that
was
put
together
with
nine
different
organizations.
N
It
was
really
cool.
The
first
time,
I've
ever
put
together
a
presentation
with
that
many
organizations
they
had
45
edits
and
we
included
each
one
of
them,
so
it
really
is
truly
owned
by
the
community
and
we've
done
a
train-the-trainer.
And
now
there
are
five
different
organizations
that
can
train
on
this
as
well,
but
we've
trained
at
places
like
a
B,
Tech
and
Trinity
United,
Methodist,
Church
and
Asheville
poverty
initiative
and
our
our
voice
help
meet
just
a
lot
of
people
are
seeking
this
training.
N
We
also
are
training
on
safe
disposal,
so
we
have
this.
Add
the
safety
is
the
point
and
that's
our
logo
for
safe
disposal.
This
has
gone
up
in
all
22
buses.
It's
gonna
go
up
also
in
the
rank
in
parking
deck,
and
it's
been
given
out
as
11
by
17
laminated
cards
for
agencies
to
put
up
in
their
bathrooms
or
in
their
windows
wherever
they,
if
they're
having
a
needle
problem
wherever
they
want
to
put
this
up.
N
N
N
So
naloxone
training,
some
of
the
cities
that
have
faced
crises
like
ours
throughout
the
country
in
the
Appalachian
region,
have
done
what
Dayton
Ohio
calls
blanket
the
city
with
naloxone,
and
so
as
part
of
that
strategy,
we
have
our
making
intranasal
naloxone
available
to
all
bunkum
County
social
workers
if
they
wish
to
carry
it
because
they
may
come
across
a
situation
where
they
need
it.
We
have
also
purchased
some
for
the
sheriff's
office
and
we're
going
to
be
making
the
intramuscular
version
available
for
individuals
who
access
our
syringe
services
program.
N
We've
also
helped
by
a
health,
a
small
bit
in
distribution
of
some
of
their
and
alloxan,
and
then
on
top
of
that
we
are
training,
people
that
were
giving
locks
own
to
or
people
who
just
want
that
training.
So
all
the
staff
at
40
Cox
are
going
to
be
receiving
the
training,
the
social
workers,
of
course,
and
then
these
community
groups,
it's
part
of
our
community
education.
N
The
next
part
of
the
grant,
one
of
the
other
prongs,
is
the
disposal
plan,
so
we're
about
six
large
units.
These
are
these
big
mailbox
kiosks
that
you
can't
destroy
at
all
or
break
into
New.
York
has
used
them
and
said.
The
only
way
that
they
were
ever
destroyed
was
by
a
plow,
so
they're,
pretty
indestructible.
N
We've
bought
three
of
them
already,
but
the
plan
is
for
six
to
eight
to
really
put
across
the
city
and
potentially
County
and
we're
looking
at
who's
going
to
collect
those.
So
that's
why
that
you
don't
see
them
up
yet,
but
we
do
have
up
if
you've
been
at
forty
Cox
or
35
Woodfin
in
the
bathrooms
or
pack
library,
the
bathroom
disposal
units
have
gone
up.
So
that's
really
exciting
and
packed
library.
The
maintenance
man
there
told
me
they're
using
them.
N
And
last
but
not
least,
syringe
service
program,
so
you
might
have
heard
syringe
exchange
we're
calling
our
syringe
services,
because
it's
comprehensive,
and
so
this
is
the
CDC
model
for
what
is
a
comprehensive,
syringe
service
program.
So
so
it
should
include
most,
if
not
all,
of
these
things
and
ours
will
include
all
so
if
we
start
on
the.
Let's
see
it's
going
to
be
your
left,
your
top
left
the
free,
sterile
needles
and
syringes
safe
disposal.
N
So,
of
course,
we'll
have
we'll
collect
needles
there
as
well,
and
one
of
our
big
units
will
be
outside
of
40,
so
people
can
use
it.
After-Hours
referral
to
mental
health
services
and
then
the
next
one's
referral
to
substance
use
so
we'll
have
a
Peer
Support
Specialists
staff
there
from
12:00
to
4:00
Monday
through
Friday.
Who
will
do
those
soft
handoffs
and
she
won't
be
transporting
people
there
necessarily,
but
just
giving
them
the
information.
N
So
they
can
access
those
treatments
if
they'd
like
HIV
and
hepatitis
testing,
we
do
it
already
at
the
public
health
department.
So
we'll
just
we'll
refer
people
there
and
do
rapid
testing
for
people
who
come
in
day
of
we're
going
to
be
having
condoms
and
we've
already
started
a
prep
program.
Prep
is
pre
exposure,
prophylaxis
for
HIV
AIDS.
This
is
for
people
who
are
at
high
risk
because
of
either
unprotected
sex
or
injection
drug
use
of
contracting
HIV
AIDS
and
there's
a
really
high
success
rate
with
using
this.
N
So,
like
I
said
many
organizations
have
come
together.
These
are
just
some
of
them.
The
ones
I
was
able
to
get
the
logos
from,
but
RHA
has
been
involved
via
has
been
involved.
We
were
a
part
of
the
student
summit
and
helped
put
that
on
as
well,
so
just
trying
to
reach
out
as
much
as
possible
through
the
community
and
get
some
of
these
initiatives
off
the
ground
and
I'm
going
to
any
any
questions
before
I
hand
it
off.
O
What
it
does
is
it
identifies
that
we've
got
not
only
the
rhetorical
captive
audience,
but
we
have
a
population
at
high
readiness
for
change,
for
at
higher
risk
for
overdose,
upon
release,
people
who
are
getting
released
from
detention.
Prison
facilities
are
at
40%
higher
chance
of
overdosing
than
the
average
population.
There's
a
number
of
reasons
that
go
into
that,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
as
quoted
here,
they
are
the
frontlines
for
treating
this
epidemic.
It's
a
wonderful
opportunity
to
capitalize
on
the
readiness
for
change
and
also
the
opportunity
to
bring
some
context
published.
O
Currently,
there's
only
11
counties
in
the
entire
nation
that
have
a
document
in
map
program.
Different
facilities
have
elements
of
Matt,
but
nobody
has
got
or
eleven
counties
have
got
a
fully
functioning
robust
program.
15
states
nationwide
have
got
a
fully
functioning
map
program.
This
is
including
prison
systems.
It's
easier
to
implement
a
map
program
in
a
prison
system
due
to
the
timeline
that
individuals
are
there.
They
have
more
comprehensive
services,
so
it's
more
challenging
in
the
short
term
detention
facilities.
O
The
state
leadership
doesn't
have
identifies
that.
We
don't
have
one
county
in
North
Carolina,
that's
got
a
fully
functioning
map
program,
so
what
we
intend
to
do
is
we
intend
to
expand
our
offerings,
because
currently
our
facility
has
a
different
elements
of
what
a
map
program
would
offer.
We
have
substance,
abuse
evidence
based
treatment.
We
do
provide
Matt
treatment
for
pregnant
women.
We
either
continuant
when
they
come
in
or
if
they're
addicted
to
opioids.
O
One
of
the
challenges
in
building
this
program
is,
we
have
not
had
any
data
that
will
inform
what
the
need
is.
We
know
empirically
from
observation
that
folks
are
coming
in
and
they're
addicted,
but
the
medical
system
in
our
jail
system
has
not
tracked
that
data
and
so
we're
working
to
establish
systems
right
from
the
jump
to
track
the
individuals
who
are
coming
in
identify
them
early
on
that
they
do
have
an
opioid
addiction
that
they
need
treatment,
find
out
what
services
they've
had
in
the
past.
O
What
would
be
relevant
and
also
track
them
all
the
way
through
their
time
at
our
facility
post
release
and
their
follow-up,
a
treatment
they
are
after
and
we're
also
working
with
the
County
systems
and
providers
to
identify?
How
do
we
track
this
love?
This
information
on
a
community
level,
because
the
more
the
entire
data
can
be
integrated,
the
more
effective
we're
going
to
be
able
to
track
our
programming
and
the
effectiveness
of
what
we're
doing
to
respond?
O
Matt
is
considered
a
best
practice
standard
in
the
medical
community.
This
is
a
standard
of
care.
These
map
programming
has
gone
up
to
the
court
level
and
main
before
their
state
court
identifying
that
it
is
a
relevant
need
to
to
provide
it
to
inmates,
and
so
this
is
a
this
is
on
the
trend.
Buncombe
County
is
doing
well
to
address
it
in
advance.
O
Before
comes
to
legal
action,
the
vision
of
our
program
were
wanting
to
reduce
the
overdoses
that
are
linked
to
detainment,
so,
whether
that's
in
the
facility
or
post
release,
again
they're
40%
higher
chances
of
overdosing
upon
release,
there's
a
one
month,
critical
window
that
individuals
are
most
at
risk
for
overdosing,
but
even
shorter,
a
two-week
critical
window
so
upon
release.
If
somebody
enters
into
our
program,
we're
gonna
be
looking
to
provide
case
management
post
release,
ensuring
that
they
get
through
that
one
month
period
and
ideally
tracking
them
for
six
months
to
a
year.
O
Depending
on
how
resources
plan
out,
we
want
to
lower
our
jail
population
and
recidivism
linked
to
opioid
use,
certainly
address
community
safety
related
to
crimes
linked
to
the
addiction
and
then
provide
these
life.
Stabilization
whole-person
care
our
goals,
we're
looking
to
increase
the
medication.
That's
offered
to
individuals
again
right
now.
O
We
provide
the
medication
for
pregnant
women,
so
increasing
the
population
that
can
receive
that
medication
identify
in
diagnosed
individuals
early
on
if
we're
able
to
identify
somebody
with
the
disease
of
addiction
with
opioids
were
able
to
direct
them
towards
treatment
interventions
and
we're
also
able
to
help
get
them
lined
up
for
services
upon
release.
If
you
have
a
diagnosis
of
opioid,
opioid
use
disorder
you're
more
easily,
you
can
access
resources
more
easily
upon
release.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
important
factor.
That's
going
to
give
them
a
key
to
access
resources
upon
release.
O
Psychoeducation
is
going
to
be
a
large
part
of
this
program,
teaching
people
about
the
risks
and
harm
reduction
and
the
treatment
options.
Many
individuals
who
are
addicted,
don't
even
know
about
Matt.
They
don't
know
what
resources
are
available
case
management
support
upon
entry
during
their
detainment
and
then
post
released,
as
well
as
the
data
mechanisms.
What
can
we
do
internally
and
also
as
a
community
working
together
to
produce
good
data?
O
The
program's
going
to
unfold
in
three
phases?
We've
already
started
working
on
phase
one
again:
psychoeducation
identifying
leaky
linking
individuals
to
treatment.
Phase
two
will
be
focused
on
continuing
treatment
for
individuals
who
come
into
our
facility
already
on
that
medication.
Currently,
only
pregnant
women
continue
with
the
medication.
O
O
These
are
really
dynamic
variables
and
because
we're
a
short-term
facility
there's
very
few
individuals
that
we
know
it
definitively
when
they
will
release,
so
that
will
be
part
of
our
target
population
in
the
phase
3.
Who
can
we
can
control
that
the
exit
of
from
the
detention
facility
with
the
medication?
It's
really
important
to
do
this
with
a
very
mindful
ethical
plan,
otherwise
we're
setting
people
up
for
harm.
We
currently
do
have
medical
protocols
for
two
different
medications
again
folks
that
are
coming
in.
We
have
a
safety
toxin
for
the
pooper
northen
with
pregnant
female.
O
So
this
is
not
a
totally
new
concept
to
our
medical
providers.
They
are
equipped.
They
are
confident
they
do
have
that
certification
already
in
place
to
be
able
to
continue
this
program,
which
makes
the
implementation
a
little
bit
easier
on
the
system
at
large
and
the
mat
program
will
be
integrated
into
our
medical
contract.
O
Another
complexity
with
the
planning
is
that
the
multi
systems
that
were
working
to
integrate
into
so
with
time
after
we
get
the
internal
jail
pieces
established,
we'll
be
working
with
the
other
justice-involved
collaborations,
to
figure
out
how
we
can
more
effectively
use
this
intervention
as
a
way
to
support
the
justice
initiatives,
particularly
around
the
timelines.
How
can
we
collaborate
with
the
diversion
courts
with
probation
with
parole
to
increase
our
the
effectiveness
and
the
stabilization
of
the
populations
that
we
serve,
and
certainly
a
lot
of
collaboration
with
our
community
partners?
O
One
of
the
challenges
across
the
nation
not
just
unique
to
us
is
the
amount
of
providers
and
the
communities.
If
we
start
everybody
who's
eligible
on
Matt
inside
the
jail,
there
might
not
be
enough
providers
in
the
community
to
continue
that.
So
that's
a
really
important
variable
that
on
a
community
level
they're
working
to
to
problem-solve.
O
So
where
are
we
at
now?
The
state
have,
as
the
state
has
identified
through
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
some
seed
money
that
they
would
like
to
gift
Buncombe
County,
to
be
able
to
pilot
this
program
and
launch
it
we're
coordinating
with
via
to
be
able
to
filter
through
those
monies
receive
them
through
the
soar
funding
allocation
that
they
already
have
and
then
to
pass
it
down
through
the
jail.
So
all
of
those
negotiations
are
dynamic,
they're
currently
in
process,
they
will
be
a.
O
We
will
be
able
to
staff
with
those
monies
for
the
first
year
initially
to
provide
the
case
management.
The
linkage
established
a
strong
community
collaborations
we're
currently
doing
the
research
and
development
continuing
to
gather
the
data
that
we
can
nationally
regionally
from
providers
from
any
source
that
we
can,
because
again,
there
have
not
been
unified
data
sources
and
continuing
to
build
out
the
development
of
the
program
working
with
the
system
collaborations
integrating
into
the
meetings
and
then
building
out
the
specifics
of
the
timelines
of
each
one
of
the
phases.
O
So
Matt
is
very
unique
in
that
it
treats
the
biological
response
of
addiction.
It
addresses
the
disease
of
addiction
and
provides
a
behavioral
element
along
with
the
medical
element,
along
with
the
substance,
abuse
treatment,
it's
an
integrated
care,
and
so
we
I'm
thrilled
that
the
jail
has
already
got
all
of
these
critical
pieces
in
place.
Really
now
it's
networking
the
bigger
picture
and
for
this
very
focused
response
to
the
opioid
epidemic
and
between
the
research
that's
coming
up
in
the
medical
community
in
the
articulate
response
of
the
medical
professionals.
O
H
It's
certainly
very
sobering
and
concerning
to
see
the
continued
rise
in
overdose
deaths
and
inspiring
to
see
throughout
this
presentation
the
different
ways
that
I
think
County
staff
and
Sheriff's
Office
staff
are
being
proactive
about
trying
to
reach
people
where
they
are
and
get
comprehensive
services
that
really
treat
the
disease
of
addiction.
So
a
thank
you
to
everyone
involved
in
these
efforts
and
thank
you
for
the
update.
It's
been
a
while,
since
we
had
such
a
in-depth
discussion
and
it's
one
that
I
hope
can
come
before
us
regularly.
H
P
Ellen,
frost,
myself,
went
and
had
four
events.
Ellen
frost
myself
went
had
four
events
on
opioids.
We
went
to
Black
Mountain,
it
was
a
pretty
pretty
decent
event.
Then
we
went
to
weaverville.
It
was
very
small
when
it
was
advertised,
then
we
went
to
Fairview
and
is
even
worse,
but
that
we
did
go
to
a
BTEC
and
at
least
we
had
some
kids
and
stuff
there,
but
trying
to
bring
all
this
forward
and
bring
more
money
into
it
and
do
this
and
do
that.
P
You
know:
I've
looked
at
it,
I
looked
at
it
and
every
way
I
can
you
can
only
help
people
that
want
help,
and
you
know
I've
never
seen
anything
to
I
mean
it's
like
the
närcon
I
talked
to
people
today
do
do
we
give
närcon
to
Buncombe
County
ambulance
service
to
take
care
of
these
people?
Do
we
give
it
to
the
fire
departments
to
take
care
of
these
people
that
want
to
kill
herself,
and
then
we
bring
them
back
to
life?
P
But
you
know:
that's
the
thing
that
we've
got
to
try
to
figure
out
is
I,
don't
want
anybody
to
die,
but
when
these
ambulance
companies
are
Buncombe
County
or
whoever
is
paying
the
tab
to
bring
somebody
back
and
then
they
don't
receive
anything
for
it.
You
know
before
there's
fire
departments
where
there's
Buncombe
County,
whether
it's
medic
or
anybody
else.
It's
just
you
know
it's
the
the
jail
is
the
jail
and
while
we,
you
know,
put
people
in
there,
they
do
something
bad
supposedly
I
didn't
know.
P
We
just
put
them
in
jail
because
there's
a
drug
addict,
but
it's
asking
for
more
money
from
the
government.
As,
as
you
know,
you
get
a
grant
well
that
grant
runs
out
three
years
and
then
guess
what
the
local
taxpayers
one.
It
picks
up.
The
tab
after
that
and
I'm
here
to
work
for
the
Buncombe
County
taxpayers.
I'm
here
to
work
for
the
old
taxpayers
is
having
to
make
property
tax
payments.
You
know
every
day
every
month
on
the
property,
so
they
can
stay
in
it.
P
So
we
can
get
them
come
up
here
and
be
you
know
whatever
you
know,
this
is
put
on
an
agenda.
We've
spent
basically
40
minutes
on
something,
and
then
we've
still
got
to
go
through
our
agendas
for
something
to
vote
on.
It
was
put
on
it.
I
asked
why
it
was
put
on
it,
because
Ellen
frost
must,
if
she's
won,
suggested
it
and
we
went
dead
and
it
worked
out
to
a
point
decent
and
this
questions
asked.
P
But
we
can't
stand
in
here
and
make
everybody
in
this
county
say
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
now.
You
might
not
like
what
I'm
saying
and
that's
okay,
but
you
have
to
look
at
the
reality.
People
you
got
drug
addicts,
you
got
drunks,
you
got
alcoholics,
you
know
it's
just
plain
simple:
we
can't
change
them.
P
We
can
you
know
I,
guess
everybody's
mentally
ill,
including
me,
because
I'm
up
here
and
it's
I
can't
see
going
after
more
grants
to
do
more
because
I've
looked
at
what
our
budgets
going
to
look
like
and
it
doesn't
look
good,
and
here
we
just
want
to
continuously
spend,
spend
and
spend
put
more
stuff
into
effect.
And
you
know
it's
it's
beyond
me.
You
know
why
I
didn't
really
want
to
hear
all
this
is
because
I
know
it
already.
P
Some
people
might
not
have,
but
I
do,
and
you
know
if
we
get
the
15
people
to
watch
it
except
one's
an
audience.
We've
done
something
else
good,
but
that's
about
that's
about
where
this
whole
project
is-
and
you
know,
I'm
not
for
taking
more
money
for
something
for
two
years
and
then
it
turning
into
something
that
the
taxpayer
has
to
cover.
So
let's
try
to
help
them,
but
let's
figure
out
how
to
do
it
without
doing
that,
because
it's
just
it's
not
for
the
old
people
to
do
it's
not.
You
know.
P
When
they're
making
payments
every
month
anew,
we
got
about
2700
M
to
be
able
to
stay
in
their
home
and
we're
worried
about
this
I'm.
Sorry
I
apologize
but
I'm,
not
for
done.
That's
thinking,
I'm
for
doing
whatever
and
I
was
before,
but
we're
trying
to
make
a
plan
that
I
can't
see
them
work
and
I,
don't
care
if
it's
in
the
jail
and
I
don't
care.
P
A
I
would
I
would
totally
disagree
with
what
was
just
said.
So
thanks
for
sure,
thanks
for
sharing
your
perspective,
you
know
this
is
a.
This
is
a
more
the
hardest
issues
that
we
face
as
a
community
in
a
society,
but
I
think
to
just
throw
up
your
hands
and
say
we
can't
do
anything.
Is
is
not
the
right
approach
when
we,
you
know
when
we
set
the
opioid
issue
as
one
of
our
top
priorities,
you
know
I
really
didn't
know
where
what
what
can
we
do?
A
You
know
what
can
we
really
do
at
a
local
level
to
make
a
difference
and
I
I
really
wasn't
sure
where,
where
it
might
go,
but
I
think
that,
because
of
course
we
want
to
do
education
and
things
like
that,
but
you
know
beyond
trying
to
encourage
folks
to
you
know
avoid
inadvertently
getting
you
know,
developing
an
addiction
around
these
really
powerful
drugs.
What
are
the
other
things
that
we
can
do
for
folks
who
do
who
have
developed
this
addiction?
A
Some
of
the
trends
are
terrible,
but
we
know
this
is
gonna,
be
an
issue
we're
gonna
be
facing
for
for
quite
a
while,
but
but
this
idea
of
working
with
the
folks
in
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
the
detention
facility
around
you
know
some
really
science-based
solutions
that
are
showing
great
promise
in
helping
people
who
do
have
this
who
have
developed
these
addictions
is
really
exciting.
So
I
I
really
applaud
everyone
for
I.
A
Do
I
think
this
will
become
very
mainstreamed,
as
people
have
said
over
time,
but
it's
really
exciting
that
Buncombe
County
can
be
on
the
frontlines
of
this
and
I
would
also
say
to
Commissioner
Jazmin
Beach
Ferrara
in
particular.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
really
continuing
to
to
focus
our
attention
and
our
partners
attention
on
this
potential
opportunity.
So
thanks
thanks
for
everyone,
who's
working
on.
M
M
You
know
I'd
say
if
I
had,
if
I
had
my
way
enough
is
enough,
you
know
pastors
are
affected,
children
are
addicted,
I
was
at
a
meeting
in
another
Commissioner
shared
with
me.
His
son
had
died.
This
is
pretty
serious
stuff,
so
we
all
got
our
opinion
now.
However,
you
can
you
can
study
stuff
to
death,
you
can
stay
in
programming,
you
can
get
so
we
should
expect
and
measure
for
results,
and
we
should
reach
in
all
kinds
of
directions
and
so
I
think
that's
what
we're
doing.
M
I
think
we
just
measure
the
results,
but
it's
a
very,
very
serious
problem
and
my
eyes
have
been
open
to
the
extent
in
the
couple
meetings
that
I've
went
that
you
know
unless
I'm
sick,
I'm,
not
gonna,
miss
the
next
one,
because
it's
a
it's
a
really
big
problem.
We
need
to
be
very
serious
about
it,
and,
and
we
should
do
what
we
can
do,
we
should
do
what
we,
what
we
can
do.
We
have
to
be
prudent
in
the
process
and
we
can.
K
M
Is
probably
affected
everybody
in
this
room?
It's
probably
somebody
on
your
mind
in
your
heart
right
now
that
that
has
been
affected
by
it
so
but
I
appreciate
all
their
information
it's
I.
Do,
though,
I
would
like
to
see
more
follow
up
on
what
were
what
were
the
what's
making
a
difference?
You
know
the
advertising.
Did
it
make
a
difference?
Did
we
measure
it?
You
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
we
did,
which
I
would
have
loved
to
seen
on
a
billboard.
You
know
in
different
things,
and
maybe
I
did
see
it.
M
Maybe
that's
why
I
liked
it
was
the
the
tylenol
and
ibuprofen
together.
That's
a
very
actually.
We
gave
that
out
at
my
church,
I
got
copies
of
it
took
the
church,
gave
it
out,
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
more
of
that
done,
because
it's
it's
a
pretty
very
real,
simple
solution
that
you
know
tells
people
to
go,
get
rid
of
everything
else
that
you
got
because
you
don't
need
it.
M
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
hear
is
a
as
I
like
to
hear
more
discussion
about
acute
pain
and
chronic
pain,
because
that's
that's
really
what
separates
what
you
should
be
using
and
I'd
like
to
see
more
discussion
about
that
as
we
as
we
move
forward
and
look
at
things.
But
I
can
tell
you
this
Brandon
attorney
in
the
back
I'm
dying
to
tell
you
some
of
the
things
that
we've
we
have
been
able
been
exposed
to.
M
It
is
alarming,
and
it
is
it
is.
It
is
very,
is
very
serious.
We
don't
have
enough
money
to
fix
it
for
sure,
but
when
it
comes
to
the
mothers
and
the
children
we
should,
we
should
look
at
what
we,
what
we
can
do,
I'm
not
for
necessarily
being
the
first
County
to
do
certain
things
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we've
measured
it
properly
and
when
we
executed.
You
know
we
we
measure
and
see
if
it
makes
a
difference.
M
M
I
Want
to
commend
the
staff
for
a
good
report,
not
only
that
the
letters
of
snow
that
at
least
we
are
doing
something
that
I
feel
that
we're
beginning,
because
this
is
not
a
problem.
That's
gonna
go
away
and
it's
a
problem
that
I
feel
we
can't
afford
not
to
spend
funds
to
correct,
because
if
we
don't
it's
just
gonna
cost
us
more
money
as
taxpayers
and
what
still
struck
me
is
when
we
did
Jasmine
I
when
we
did
our
first
meeting
in
the
community
to
talk
to
constituents
about
different
farmers.
I
You
remember
Jasmine
when
the
couple
walked
up
to
us
and
they
had
I
could
sense.
Something
was
wrong
and
they
had
lost
their
daughter
the
weekend
before
this
was
on
Monday
or
Tuesday,
remember
the
day,
but
they
had
lost
their
daughter
and
when
she
asked
us,
what
are
you
gonna
do
to
solve
this?
That
hit
close
to
home
because
she
said
we're
elected
you.
I
You
know
to
represent
us
and
we
have
a
few
dish
year:
responsibilities,
commissioners,
to
represent
the
people
of
Buncombe
County,
our
constituents
and
I
know
we
have
different
ideas
and
will
come
from
different
places.
But
this
is
something
as
a
commissioner
I
voted
for
it
for
this
to
be
one
of
our
priorities
and
where
the
work
for
you
and
I
will
continue
to
do
that
as
long
as
I'm
sitting
in
this
seat,
because
it's
something
that
it's
going
to
take
a
while.
I
But
if
we
don't
start
and
I
feel
that
we
are
doing
what
we
need
to
do
not
only
locally
but
nationally,
what's
a
lawsuit,
we've
got
to
do
this
and
folks
we
cannot
afford
not
to
because
when
I
look
at
the
figures,
how
many
people
were
losing
and
I
talked
the
EMS
personnel
here
in
the
county,
and
they
tell
me
how
many
calls
they
because
of
the
opioids
at
all,
and
these
are
sick
people.
We
can't
afford
not
to
help
and
I've
seen
this
all.
I
I
People
in
the
community,
wherever
I,
go
because
we
all
are
being
affected
and
don't
tell
me
you're
not
because
in
every
family,
in
this
county
we're
up
against
this
and
let's
be
men
and
women
about
it
and
admit
it
and
we've
got
to
correct
it
in
the
only
way
we
can
do
it.
We
got
to
work
together
and
sure
it's
gonna
be
tough.
It's
not
easy,
but
it's
a
problem.
I
We've
got
to
deal
with
folks
where
we
want
to
or
not,
and
that's
what
I'm
glad
to
see
the
staff
and
if
we
can
get
grants
to
help
sure
you
know,
I'd
rather
see
my
tax
money
go
to
grant
to
help
do
away
with
the
opioids
than
to
fight
people
in
Iran
or
whatever.
But
this
is
something
we
need
to
do
need
to
spend
the
money
here
to
solve
our
problems.
A
All
right
any
other
comments
from
commissioners
before
we
move
on
the
next
time:
alright,
Rachel
and
Amy
and
Sarah,
and
all
the
folks
who
are
here
this
evening.
Thanks
for
your
great
work
and
thanks
for
the
substantive
update,
all
right,
we
come
now
to
the
FY
2020
budget
message
and
Jennifer
Barnett
is
going
to
present
the
assignment.
Q
I
K
Q
Budget
process
started
last
fall
with
the
department
heads
reviewing
their
operations,
the
capital
projects,
teams,
met
and
information
technology
review
committees
held
meetings
and
submitted
a
requested
budget
upon
my
arrival
in
March
I
met
with
every
department
head
to
understand
their
department
requests
met
with
every
Commissioner
to
learn
of
any
particular
issues
that
needed
to
be
addressed.
I
believe
this
budget
is
responsive
to
the
needs
Express
and
it
provides
funding
to
the
commissioners
goals
and
priorities.
Q
The
budget
is
balanced
with
a
tax
rate
of
fifty
two
point:
nine
cents,
which
is
flat
from
fiscal
year
2019
as
I
mentioned,
it
advances
the
commission,
the
board's
goals
and
priorities.
It
provides
for
21,
physicians
and
various
departments.
It
maintained
quality
services
to
our
citizens.
It
provides
the
ability
to
continue
addressing
salary,
inequities
and
I
live
in
a
wage
for
employees.
It
includes
one
point:
seven,
seven
percent
cost-of-living
adjustment
for
employees.
The
cost-of-living
adjustment
is
based
on
a
Consumer
Price
Index
rate
of
inflation
for
the
urban
wage
earners.
As
of
December
31st.
Q
This
budget
continues
to
include
funding
to
meet
the
retirement
incentive
obligations
in
December
2017.
The
board
adopted
six
key
priorities:
affordable
housing,
diverse
community
workforce,
early
childhood
education,
justice
resource
support,
opioid
addiction,
which
you
just
heard
a
presentation
and
update
on
renewable
energies.
All
these
priorities
are
focused
to
ensure
a
healthy,
safe
thrive
in
a
sustainable
community.
We
have
maintained
a
level
of
funding
for
each
priority
area.
However,
for
the
fiscal
year
2020
budget
there
is
an
increased
investment
in
affordable
housing
and
early
childhood
education
proposed
program.
Q
Funding
for
2020
investments
in
affordable
housing
totals
3.8
million
dollars.
It
includes
affordable
housing
services
program,
special
project
funding
for
Walker
Heights
for
Lee,
Walker,
Heights
redevelopment
partnerships
with
Moncton
housing
opportunities
and
existing
programming
or
homeward
bound
for
2020
investments
in
early
childhood
totaling,
3.6
million.
This
includes
new
grant
funding
from
the
early
childhood
educational
development
committee,
Asheville,
City,
Schools,
local
preschool
direct
services
continue
partnerships
with
southwestern
child
development,
Valley's
Child,
Development,
Center,
Warren,
Wilson,
College,
Lumpkin,
County,
partnership
for
children,
the
YWCA
and
community
action
opportunities.
Q
We've
continued
funding
for
strategic
partnership
grants
which
we
discussed
earlier
for
2020.
We
had
allocated
six
hundred
and
five
thousand
six
hundred
and
eighty
dollars.
We
would
increase
that
based
on
the
conversation
earlier
today,
with
a
four
point.
Four
two
percent
increased
number,
the
Isaac
Coleman
grants
are
also
included.
This
is
a
third
year
of
a
three-year
commitment
funding
level
at
five
hundred
thousand.
This
would
be
for
continued
awardees,
be
no
new
money.
This
is
just
continuing
on
commitment
for
three
years
and
last
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
for
the
tipping
point.
Friends.
Q
This
cycle
would
begin
in
the
summer.
I
am
recommending
a
total
of
21
positions
in
this
budget,
six
patrol
deputies
in
March.
You
heard
the
sheriff
speak
about
his
20
century
21
format,
but
he
wants
to
work
with
into
jails
and
in
the
sheriff's
office
on
average,
we
have
12
to
14
patrol
deputies
now
covering
about
656
square
miles.
These
new
six
patrol
deputies
will
be
able
coverage
to
go
to
14
the
16
patrol
deputies
per
shift,
I'm
also
asking
for
four
detention
officers.
Q
Nine
care
coordination
staff.
Currently
the
Health
Department
contracts
for
two
case
management
programs.
The
Health
Department
will
reabsorb
that
responsibility
and
this
these
positions
would
be
funded
by
Medicaid
dollars.
There'll
be
no
new
County
dollars
to
these
nine
positions
and
we
recommend
in
one
position
in
general
services
it
will
be
a
HVAC
or
heating
ventilation
and
air
conditioning
I'm.
Sorry,
this
is
on
your
desk.
This
is
at
your
table.
Perfect.
Q
The
HVAC
specialist.
This
will
be
funded
by
a
third
party
contract
that
will
be
eliminated
and
bring
that
service
in-house,
and
the
last
position
I'm
recommended
is
assistant.
County
manager,
position
that
would
assist
with
daily
operations,
provide
alignment,
consistency
and
support
amount.
County
departments.
Q
The
board
was
proactive,
recognizing
the
need
to
address
employee
pay.
Therefore,
last
year
you
contracted
for
a
pay
and
classification
study,
after
which
you
adjusted
to
salaries
for
ninety
two
positions.
However,
pay
equities
still
remains,
I'm
recommending
the
adjustment
of
a
minimum
of
$15
per
hour,
full-time
and
part-time
positions,
and
this
is
based
on
a
2080
per
year,
work
schedule.
In
addition,
this
budget
includes
forty
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
begin
addressing
paying
compensation
and
equities
throughout
the
organization.
Q
The
general
fund
budget
is
balanced
at
three
hundred
and
thirty
four
million
five
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
two
dollars.
This
includes
an
appropriated
funds
of
twelve
million
nine
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
nine
hundred
and
sixty
three
dollars.
We
are
projecting
to
finish
2019
current
fiscal
year
with
available
fund
balance
of
sixty
1.2
million
or
in
nineteen
point
four
percent,
which
is
thirteen
point.
Q
Eight
seven,
four
above
the
15%
policy
level,
my
recommendation
of
appropriate
in
twelve
million
nine
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
for
2020
maintains
a
fund
balance
policy
that
effect
just
slightly
above
the
policy
level
of
fifteen
percent,
and
it
keeps
the
tax
rate
flat.
Fifty
two
point:
nine
cents,
ad
valorem
property
tax
accounts
for
sixty
one
point:
six:
five
percent
of
the
general
fund
revenues.
Q
The
annual
growth
in
the
base
is
projected
at
one
point:
six
billion
or
four
percent
with
the
sale
off
mission
hospital
contributed
six
hundred
and
forty
six
million
to
that
total
the
estimated
base
for
fiscal
year.
Twenty
twenty
is
thirty,
eight
point:
seven
seven
billion
enter
government
revenues
account
for
twelve
point
nine
seven-
and
this
is
a
next
largest
contributor
to
our
revenues.
Q
This
primarily
funds
Health
and
Human
Services
and
is
expected
to
grow
by
three
point.
One
five
percent
sales
tax
represents
ten
point:
zero,
two
of
total
revenues.
If
the
strong
economy,
beer
ant,
is
anticipating
growth
of
six
point:
zero,
nine
percent
for
next
year,
the
general
fund
budget
is
adopted
at
a
functional
level.
This
table
shows
the
recommended
allocation
to
each
function.
Q
Overall,
the
proposed
expenditure
rate
of
growth
is
three
point:
two
seven
percent
over
FY
19
amended
budget
education
is
our
largest
allocation
at
twenty
seven
point:
zero,
eight
percent
of
the
budget,
and
that
totals
ninety
point:
six
million
Human
Services
at
twenty
six
point:
five:
two
percent
total
eighty
eight
point:
seven
million
and
public
safety
at
nineteen
point:
zero
percent.
Our
sixty
three
point:
seven
million
Ron
without
our
top
three
functional
areas,
I'll
go
through
each
functional
air
in
the
next
few,
slides
is
set
for
the
debt
function.
Q
That
is
the
principal
and
interest
payments
on
existing
debt
and
proposed
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
debt
issuance
general
government
function.
This
house
is
mostly
administrative
function,
such
as
budget
and
IT
finance,
HR
governing
body
county
manager's
office.
It
represents
fourteen
point
four
five
percent
or
forty
eight
million
dollars.
I
am
recommending
to
positions
of
the
twenty-one.
We
spoke
off
earlier
in
this
function:
one
heating
and
air
currents
in
the
General
Services
Department
and
one
assistant
county
manager
in
the
county,
manager's
office,
public
safety,
sixty
three
point:
seven
million
or
nineteen
percent
of
our
budget.
Q
Q
Human
Services
eighty-eight
point
seven
million.
This
is
our
largest
function.
The
second
largest
function
representing
twenty
six
point:
five:
two
percent
of
the
general
fund.
If
the
change
in
Medicaid
transformation
that
you
heard
about
earlier
from
via
I
am
recommending
that
elimination
of
a
third
party
contract
for
care,
carnation,
hiring
nine
positions
and
brain
service
back
in
house
there'll,
be
no
new,
County
dollars
will
be
needed
for
these
positions.
Q
Economic
and
physical
development
at
seven
point:
seven
million
dollars
for
economic
and
physical
development.
This
is
actually
a
decrease
from
prior
year.
During
the
current
year,
the
bordering
renegotiated
and
economic
development
agreement
resulted
in
savings
I'm,
recommending
that
the
board
transfer
the
savings
to
a
special
project
fund
in
the
current
year.
So
that
will
be
coming
to
you
this
year
and
transfer
those
savings
to
meet
future
economic
development
obligations
and
payments
without
committing
new
funds
in
this
in
the
new
2020
budget.
Q
That
savings
would
help
pay
for
the
next
three
years,
a
funding
for
economic
development
incentive
payments
about
how
much
would
that
be?
It's
about
three
million
that
to
be
safe
alone
tomorrow
and
all
the
others
that
we've
had.
So
we
would
want
to
put
that
aside
to
pay
those
Linamar
I
believe
the
Linamar
obligation
is
six
million,
our
total
new
contract
and
we
have
three
men
already
in
hand.
So
the.
Q
The
ones
that
we
currently
have
wants
to
meet
the
obligations
will
use
that
fund
to
pay
that
obligation.
Thank
you
for
yes,
culture
and
recreation,
I'm
recommending
an
investment
of
eight
point,
five
million
for
a
culture
and
recreation
function.
This
function
includes
many
of
the
quality
of
life
services
that
our
citizens
have
come
to
expect
and
enjoy
from
their
county
government
services
such
as
parks,
greenways
and
our
public
libraries.
Q
The
largest
component
of
the
general
fund
again
is
funding
for
education
at
approximately
ninety
point
six
million.
This
represents
twenty
seven
point:
zero.
Eight
percent
of
the
total
fund
general
fund
I'm,
recommending
a
growth
rate
of
four
point:
two
four
percent
to
a
fund
to
fund
the
k-12
system,
as
well
as
a
BTEC.
Q
Our
last
function
is
transfers
at
4.9
million
are
1.4
6%.
The
transfer
function.
Accounts
for
funds
that
are
moved
are
transferred
from
the
general
fund
enter
another
fund
for
a
special
project.
Our
purpose,
for
example,
we
would
take
money
from
the
general
fund
to
fund
affordable
housing
that
will
be
set
aside.
Capital
improvement
projects
and
our
transportation
system
mount
to
mobility.
As
I
stated
earlier,
education
is
the
largest
function
in
the
general
fund,
a
May
7th.
Our
last
meeting.
He
heard
the
board
you
heard
presentations
from
our
school
partners
for
the
local
public
school
appropriation.
Q
The
total
funded
amount
allocated
to
Buncombe
County
Schools
determines
the
allocations
shared
to
go
to
Asheville
City
Schools,
based
on
average
daily
membership
between
the
two
school
systems,
Buncombe
County
requested
70.3
million
or
a
seven
point.
Six,
eight
percent
increase
I'm
recommending
at
each
institution
receive
a
four
point.
Two
four
increase
over
the
FY
19
amended
budget.
This
increase
was
projected
as
a
percent
increase.
The
county
will
have
and
is
unrestricted
revenues.
Q
I'm
recommending
this
formula
as
a
target
to
be
in
a
systemic
and
predictable
method
that
is
sustainable,
Asheville,
City,
Schools
requested
fourteen
point,
two
million
or
a
seventeen
point.
Two
five
percent
increase
I'm
recommending
a
four
point:
two
four
percent,
which
is
an
alignment
with
the
estimated
ADM
share,
as
with
the
other
school
systems,
I'm
also
recommending
a
four
point:
two
four
percent
increase
for
a
BTech
included
in
this
budget.
I'm
recommending
funds
for
capital
needs
and
information
technology
needs
I'm,
recommending
certain
projects
totaling
seven
point:
six
million
to
be
financed
with
debt
proceeds.
Q
This
summary
table
shows
the
proposed
funding
for
capital
on
IT
needs,
I'm,
recommending
using
savings
generated
from
prior
capital
projects
to
pay
for
new
capital
projects.
Nit
needs
the
current
capital
savings
available
is
1.6
million.
Total
savings
proposed
to
be
used
is
one
point:
five
eight.
This
will
leave
a
balance
of
twenty
three
twenty
three
thousand
four
hundred
and
thirty-five
dollars
of
prior
capital
savings.
Q
In
addition
to
setting
the
tax
rate
for
the
county,
you
set
the
tax
rate
for
the
fire
districts.
Earlier
today,
you
heard
from
the
six
districts
that
request
an
a
tax
increase
staff
has
met
with
these
six
districts
and
we
review
their
financial
data.
We
will
provide
you
with
a
summary
to
aid.
You
know
your
deliberations
within
the
coming
weeks.
The
recommended
budget
in
brief
is
available
online
and
your
interactive
budget
Explorer
allows
you
to
drill
down
into
departments
our
Pacific
categories.
Q
As
a
reminder,
there
will
be
a
public
hearing
at
the
regular
board
meeting
on
June
4th
for
public
input
into
the
recommended
budget.
I
do
want
to
take
this
time
to
thank
the
county
staff,
the
performance
management
team,
the
assistant
county
manager
and
a
special
thank
you
to
the
budget
team
for
their
work
in
helping
to
prepare
for
this
budget
recommendation.
Thank
you
any
questions.
A
P
Q
P
M
So
I've
got
to
comment
on
this.
We
we
land
on
different
sides
of
this
I
think
the
fund
balance
is
fine
and
15%
I
like
the
fact
it's.
It
does
sustain
a
tax
cut
that
we
took
last
year.
It
does
this,
it
does
do
that.
I
like
given
the
schools
targets
I
like
holding
you
know
them
to
the
accountability.
I
think
it's
a
I
think
it's
a
good
presentation.
I
did
not
think
we
would
land
here
when
we
started,
and
so
we
got
we
got.
M
You
know
we
got
some
time
I'm
glad
the
fund
balance
ended
up.
You
know
where
it
is
I
think
we
need
to
have
enough,
but
you
know:
we've
been
down
this
road
before
on
unfun
balance
and
I.
Think
I
think
it's
enough
I
mean
I,
think
we're
I
think
we're
fine
I
mean
I.
There
was
set.
There
are
several
things
and
I
guess
we'll
have
opportunities
to
comment
on
this
some
more
later
but
I.
You
know,
I
appreciate
the
pay-as-you-go
I.
Think
there's
a
couple
broadband
things
in
here
that
I'll
you
know.
M
I'm
gonna
salute
the
County
on
because
it
gives
some
families
opportunities
to
go
to
certain
areas
and
be
able
to
you
know,
do
the
homework
and
things
like
that
and
be
able
to
meet
some
needs,
but
I
would
like
I
would
I
would
have
liked
to
have
I
would
have
liked
to
have
seen
it
less
this
year.
I
think
there's
some
expectations
on
the
cell
of
the
you
know
the
hospital
and
some
of
that
I
think
we.
Q
If
there's
any
changes
that
you
need
to
see
and
I
recommend
a
budget,
please
let
us
know
so
we
can
incorporate.
Then
we
heard
the
one
today
to
include
more
money
for
strategic
partnerships.
We
can
add
that,
there's
more,
that
you
need
for
us
to
do
as
change
between
now
and
the
public
hearing
on
the
4th
and
then
after
the
public
hearing.
So
we're
plan
would
be
to
have
adoption
on
June
18th.
A
Any
other
comments
for
now
great
you
know:
I
do
I
do
think
you
know
going
forward.
I
would
really
like
for
us
to
move
into
more
of
a
multi-year
kind
of
financial
forecasting.
I
do
think.
That's
a
really!
You
know
very
good
way
to
think
about
this
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
uncertainties
around
state
budgets
and
revenues.
A
It's
hard,
it's
hard
to
know
with
certainty
what
things
are
gonna
look
like
into
the
future,
but
I
think
for
you
know
for
Miss
Pender
and
the
staff
she's
been
working
with
I
mean
to
be
at
where
we're
at
in
such
a
short
period
of
time.
I
think
is
very
commendable.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
where
we
are
at
in
this
process
and
I
think
once
we
have
a
full
year
to
work
through
all
this
together
kind
of
looking
at
these
things,
you
know
even
further
into
the
future.
A
R
R
When
we,
when
we
talk
about
the
franchise
collections
contract,
this
is
for
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County
and
we're
talking
specifically
residential
waste
and
recycling
collections
and
currently
we're
in
a
subscriber
base
system.
We
have
been
for
the
past
10
years
and
that
will
continue
with
the
new
contract.
We
would.
That
will
also
be
a
subscriber
based
system,
so
citizens
have
the
option
if
they
have
the
option
to
subscribe
to
the
contractors
services
or
we,
we
have
a
lot
of
folks
that
that
enjoy
coming
out
to
our
facilities
as
well.
R
R
So
in
anticipation
for
the
current
contracts
expiration
this
year,
December
31st
2019-
we
as
staff,
got
to
work
last
year
on
on
developing
an
RFP
document
to
go
out
and
we
we
really
looked
across
the
industry.
We
looked
at
other
municipalities
similar
to
us.
We,
you
know
we
work
to
benchmark
those
collection
operations.
We
look
to.
R
We
established
an
evaluation
committee
that
was
comprised
of
six
members.
There
were
buncombe
county
staff,
representation,
city
of
Asheville,
solid
waste
staff,
representation
and
also
citizen
representation,
and
the
the
individual
members
of
this
committee
were
tasked
with
evaluating
the
proposal
and
scoring
the
criteria
against
the
the
RFP
information
and
we'd
put
out,
and
that
was
that
was
a
very
important
that
you
know.
We
look
at
the
criteria
that
was
put
out
in
the
RFP
and
that
we
checked
that
against
the
proposal
that
was
submitted,
references
were
also
checked.
R
We
and
we
ultimately
got
good
general
feedback
from
from
municipalities
that
are
using
VoIP
services
currently,
and
it
was
important
to
us
up
front
to
to
incorporate
the
results
from
the
let's
talk
trash
survey.
We
got
a
lot
of
good
feedback
from
citizens
and
we
had
a
focus
on
incorporating
that
as
we
evaluated
proposal
and
looking
at
services
for
the
future.
R
Lessons
learned-
and
you
know,
then
this
marketplace
for
the
past
10
years.
Weis
Pro
certainly
understands
the
challenges
that
this
marketplace
has
and
we
certainly
feel
they
are
equipped
to
meet
those
challenges.
The
service,
verification
in
the
field
and
also
the
technology
that
was
that
was
proposed.
R
So
some
of
the
key
contract
changes
that
there
will
be
obviously
changes.
Moving
forward
with
this
new
contract,
the
we're
gonna
cut
the
the
base
term
of
the
contract
in
half
moving
from
a
10
year
contract
to
a
five
year
base
term,
with
the
with
two
two-year
extension
options:
weekly
waste
collection-
that's
not
gonna
change.
Subscribers
will
still
receive
weekly
waste
collection.
The
the
recycling
will
also
remain
single
stream
and
commingled,
but
that
is
there
is
a
change
in
the
frequency
of
collections.
That's
gonna!
That's
proposed
to
move
to
every
other
week.
R
So
that's
a
change,
but
the
basis
of
the
service
change
is
moving
to
a
roll
out
cart
system,
so
that
that
is
a
contractor.
Provided.
Roll
out
cart,
based
system
where
subscriber
subscribers
are
issued
a
waste
container
as
well
as
a
recycling
container
which
got
them
I,
wouldn't
say,
hid,
but
we
have
them
strategically
placed
over
here.
So
waste
shared
those
samples
and
chip
will
speak
a
little
more
to
the
roll
out
carbs.
So.
M
We
need
to
communicate
that
better,
because
I
did
get
some
comments
about.
You
know
how
you
going
two
weeks:
I
can't
do
it.
You
know
my
my
dog
would
go
crazy
and
you
know,
and
all
that
and
which
is
true,
but
it
sounds
like
that's
not
the
case.
The
only
thing
it's
gonna
be
two
weeks
is
gonna
be
recycle,
which
will
not
create
a
problem
at
all.
That's.
R
Correct,
if
we're
getting
public
education
out
correctly
yeah
and
we're
talking
to
the
citizens
about
what
should
be
placed
in
the
recycling
container,
what
should
be
placed
in
the
waste
container
yeah
then
try
Ashley,
gonna
be
picked
up.
Weekly
recycling
technically
should
not
be
a
large
issue,
though.
M
R
Thank
you
for
that
and
we
are
encouraged
by
the
expansion
and
automated
collections
and
alternate
fuel
vehicles
at
waste.
Pro
has
proposed.
That
was
something
that
we
incentivized
in
the
RFP
process
was
expanding
there
and
I
feel
like
that.
That's
an
increase!
You
know.
When
you
talk
about
CNG
vehicles,
you
know
the
United
States
Environmental
Protection
Agency.
They
equivalent
energy
truck,
replacing
the
diesel
vehicle
to
planting
600
mature
trees
every
year,
so
the
carbon
emission,
the
carbon
emissions
reduction,
is,
is
substantial
and
I.
R
This
picture
is
an
example
of
a
collection
point
and
a
situation
we're
seeing
a
lot
in
the
county
when
we're
talking
about
a
roll
out
roll
out
court
based
system.
But
this
is
not
a
typical
we're
seeing
this
throughout
the
county
and,
as
you
can
see,
it's
a
it's
a
collection
issue.
It's
an
efficiency
issue,
for
you
know
the
wife's
Pro
folks
that
are
out
there
picking
this
up
and
it's
also
safety
related.
R
Another
example
of
a
collection
point
where
you
know
it's
difficult
when
you've
got
a
lot
of
stops
in
a
day
as
a
collection
worker
to
understand.
Is
this
a
paying
subscriber
account
or
not?
There's
there's
not
a
there's,
not
enough
time
in
the
day
to
go
through
and
identify.
You
know
who
is
a
customer
who's
not
by
digging
through
those?
So
that's
it.
That's
some
of
the
challenge
we're
seeing
in
the
field
and
also,
if
you'll
notice,
that's
in
a
actually
a
drainage,
conveyance
area.
R
You
know
one
to
ten
valid
message
during
any
one
calendar
month,
$200
per
miss
and
obviously
with
the
severity
of
the
the
violation
the
the
penalty
would
increase
with
situations
such
as
area
miss
being
in
the
five
thousand
five
thousand
dollars
per
month
range
and
also
at
the
bottom.
You
can
see
the
the
leaking
truck
or
debris,
leaving
the
truck
while
hauling
having
a
penalty
of
$1,000
per
violation.
R
This
was
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
This
was
not
in
the
current
contract
and
we've
incorporated
this
for
accountability
measures.
We
hope
we
don't
ever
charge
penalty,
that's
that's
where
we
would
like
to
be,
but
we
also
know
that
we
need
accountability
on
both
sides
and
both
parties
understand
that
when
we
look
at
the
proposed
subscriber
cost
breakdown,
the
the
far-left
call
it
the
green
column
is
the
the
current
contract
word.
R
The
pricing
will
be
at
the
end
of
this
year
in
December,
so
you
look
at
the
basic
service
being
1608
with
the
optional
$3,
an
80
cent
cart
rental
and
that
that
cost
is
1988
total
per
month
currently
and
option,
one
which
is
the
one
we
focused
on
we've
built
this
contract
around.
Is
the
the
roll
out
cart
based
system
with
waste
container
recycling
containers
weekly
trash
every
other
week,
recycling,
the
CNG
expansion
and
the
automated
truck
expansion.
R
That's
nineteen
dollars
and
21
cents
per
month
proposed,
so
the
other
areas
that
we
that
we
asked
for
pricing
in
the
RFP
include
the
premium
service
cap.
That's
a
maximum!
The
you
know,
not
every
service.
Every
location
is
the
same.
So
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
long
driveway
or
a
situation
where
the
customer
wants
that
upgrade
in
service,
then
we
wanted
to
know
okay.
That
would
be
negotiated
based
on
the
distance,
the
type
of
vehicle
that's
used,
but
we
want
to
know
where's
the
cap,
you
you're
not
gonna,
be
able
to
charge
over
that.
S
Okay,
Thank
You
Dane
good
evening
to
everyone:
I
am
chip.
This
is
Johnny,
make
sure
we
have
that
distinction
and
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
jump
right
into
our
presentation
and
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
a
little
bit
about
waste,
Pro
and
clear.
Maybe
some
questions
that
you
have
about
our
proposal,
a
couple
of
things
about
our
company.
Now
we
are
a
large,
privately
held
company.
We
operate
in
nine
states,
we
have
71
hauling
companies
and
we
have
over
250
municipal
contracts
currently
and
growing.
S
So
we
are
a
nice
sized
company
and
this
aligns
itself
and
what
we
like
to
do.
Buncombe
County
is
special
to
us.
Buncombe
County.
This
contract
was
actually
the
first
contract
waste
Pro
got
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
over
ten
years
ago.
So
it's
a
very
special
contract
and
we
hope
to
continue
to
grow
and
develop
our
relationship
with
buckin
County.
S
As
I
said,
we
also
invest,
invest
heavily
into
the
county.
So
far,
we've
invested
over
19
million
dollars
in
capital
for
this
contract
and
we
look
to
invest
another
seven
million
dollars
with
the
new
contract.
That's
coming
up,
okay,
so
a
lot
of
equipment,
a
lot
of
carts,
a
big
investment
on
our
part.
We
do
consider
ourselves
active
members
of
the
community
I'm
a
very
proud
graduate
of
leadership
Asheville
and
we
are
sustainable
partners
with
leadership
Asheville,
and
we
look
to
continue
to
do
that.
T
T
T
Waste
pool
also
offers
two
bonus
structures,
as
an
incentive
for
Java
to
remain
safe
and
basically
just
do
the
right
thing.
The
one
program
is
a
$250
bonus
that
every
employee
is
entitled
to
and
that
bonus
can
accumulate
up
to
$2,500
and
it's
a
two
hundred
dollar
bonus
yearly
and
basically
it
is
a
bonus
that
requires
folks
to
meet
certain
criteria
when
they
do
so
that
bonus
is
paid
out.
There's
another
bonus
that
we
that
we
have
there's
a
ten
thousand
dollar
driver
bonus
and
a
five
thousand
dollar
helper
bonus.
T
This
bonus
is
paid
out
to
drivers
after
a
three
year
period
of
basically
being
excellent
on
the
job.
No
accidents,
no
injuries,
perfect
attendance,
just
a
few
different
criteria
have
to
be
met.
We
like
now,
we
have
one
driver
that
received
this.
Ten
thousand
dollar
bonus
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
we
have
a
helper
that
is
due
to
receive
a
$5,000
bonus
in
July
of
this
year.
T
Career
paths
and
development
I
have
currently
four
supervisors
that
were
previously
previous
drivers.
We
promote,
promoted
those
guys
within
and
allow
them
to
advance
within
the
company
and,
quite
frankly,
waste
people
is
a
big
advocate
of
that.
So
am
I
I
also
have
five
drivers
that
were
help
us
and
have
advanced
into
the
driver's
seat
with
CDLs
that
wench
pill
has
helped
them
attain.
So
those
are
some
things
that
we
offer
to
our
jobs
and
elders
people
in
jail.
We
also
have
a
driver.
T
A
driver
trainer
Center
in
Atlanta,
which
we
recently
opened
up
I
want
to
believe
it
was
last
October
and
every
new
driver
that
is
hired
has
to
attend
this
program.
It's
a
five-day
program,
very
extensive
training
program
that
all
of
my
supervisors
have
also
attended,
and,
quite
frankly,
everyone
is
spoken
very
highly
of
just
what
the
program
brings
to
the
table
and
I
have
folks
that
have
been
driving
for
a
long
time
that
actually
came
back
with
some
new
knowledge,
so
that
was
that
was
great.
S
Thanks
Johnny
and
you
know
that
drivers
school,
we
have
a
lot
of
drivers,
say
they're,
going
to
go
down
there
and
test
out
and
didn't
always
work
out
that
way.
They
ended
up
staying
for
the
week,
which
is
a
great
thing.
Twenty
and
thirty
year
veterans
drivers
that
have
been
with
some
of
our
competitors
for
a
long
time
and
they
go
down
to
the
district
school
and
realize
that
there's
some
things
that
they
didn't
know.
So
one
of
these
days,
I'm
gonna,
get
down
there
see
if
I
can
test
out.
S
So
they
mentioned
that
we're
going
to
incorporate
some
CNG
vehicles
into
our
fleet.
We
feel
that
that's
very
important,
as
Jane
said,
you
know
it's
great
for
the
community,
the
environment,
probably
the
one
concern
that
we
have
is
those
trucks
are
quiet.
So
you
know
you
have
a
lot
of
people
they'd
like
to
listen
for
the
trash
truck.
You
know
before
they
put
the
trash
out
that
won't
work
anymore.
If
we
have
CNG
vehicles,
you're
gonna
have
to
have
your
trash
out
on
time.
S
Some
of
the
new
vehicles
that
we
are
proposing
that
we're
going
to
add
to
our
fleet-
you
know,
like
we
say,
CNG
automated
trucks.
Johnny-
is
going
to
talk
about
automation
because
that's
so
important
for
our
business.
But
you
know
a
couple
of
diesel,
reload
trucks
and
some
smaller
trucks
too,
and
we'll
talk
about
that
later
then
enables
us
to
go
to
those
what
we
call
goat
trails
out
here
in
the
mountains:
okay,
so
Johnny
on
the
automation.
Yes,
sir,.
T
So
automation
is
surely
the
future
I
actually
started
my
career
in
the
industry
right
here
in
Nashville
at
a
local
company
that
had
this
contract
prior
to
waste
Pro
being
awarded
the
contract,
so
I
ran
many
of
these
valves.
Basically,
all
of
these
routes
at
some
point
and
I've
been
on
the
back
of
the
truck
helping
out
as
well
so
I've
been
in
many
as
many
facets
of
a
job.
With
that
being
said,
Automation
is
surely
much
easier
on
the
driver
in
helping.
Basically,
there
is
no
help.
T
We
eliminate
that
position
which,
when
you
look
at
the
safety
aspect
of
the
job,
that's
where
most
of
our
injuries
fall,
the
guy
on
the
back
that
steps
off
and
twists
his
ankle
or
the
guy
that
jumps
off
the
truck
jumps
into
a
ditch
and
breaks
his
ankle.
Those
things
happen
quite
often,
and
we
can
eliminate
that
with
with
automated
vehicles.
Also,
the
driver
is
not
as
fatigued
at
the
end
of
the
day
he
rarely
gets
out.
He
may
have
the
misfortune
to
get
out
and
have
to
move
a
container.
T
That's
too
close
to
a
mailbox
or
too
close
to
a
car,
but
overall
the
job
would
not
need
to
get
out.
The
automated
arm
doesn't
get
tired
it
we're
where
we
can
physically
pick
up.
Seven
eight
hundred
stops
a
day
with
a
two-man
crew,
the
automated
truck
they
probably
do.
Twelve.
Thirteen
hundred
stops
depending
on
just
how
tight
the
terrain
is
and
how
tight
the
the
route
is.
So
a
lot
of
benefits
to
to
this
vehicle.
T
When
you
talk
Java
retention,
that
is
a
big,
a
big
problem
across
the
nation,
in
the
waste
industry
and
in
within
the
trucking
industry.
Altogether,
jobs
are
hard
to
come
by
now
and
even
harder
to
keep.
So
we
are
looking
to
actually
pay
our
jobs
a
little
bit
more
and
put
them
in
automated
trucks.
With
that
being
said,
I'm
looking
for
jobs
to
retire
with
wage
per,
as
opposed
to
wanting
to
leave
in
a
year,
so
we're
hoping
this
is
gonna
work
in
our
favor
and
I
believe
it
will.
S
That
automation
really
is
important
for
our
business
safety
wise.
Unfortunately,
it
was
in
this
marketplace:
we've
had
several
drivers
of
helper
struck
by
drivers
and
you
know
some
very
serious
injuries
and
that's
not
good
for
anyone,
so
this
is
a
way
that
we're
able
to
be
more
efficient
and
protect
our
people
and
technology.
Another
important
piece
Johnny.
T
So
we
have
something:
that's
called
the
third
eye:
cam
system,
it
is
instituted
waste
per
watt.
Every
vehicle
has
this
system
and,
quite
frankly,
it
can
be
used
for
a
number
of
different
things,
but
quite
honestly,
waste
Pro
uses
it
mainly
to
drive
safety.
We
have
seen
a
decline
in
injuries
and
accidents
in
Nashville,
maybe
not
necessarily
100%
associated
to
the
and
with
the
third
our
system,
but
it
surely
helps
drivers
are
quite
different
when
they
get
into
one
of
these
vehicles.
Myself
I
ran
routes
even
as
a
division
manager.
T
T
I
get
a
lot
of
calls
a
day
that
cuts
that
out
the
phone
has
to
have
to
lay
by
the
side
and
when
you
get
to
where
you're
going,
you
can
make
that
call
the
return
a
call,
but
the
third
our
system
can
be
used
as
service
verification,
which
is
a
big
piece
for
us.
We're
gonna
need
to
prove
when
whether
we've
been
to
a
location
or
not,
and
we
can
do
that
with
a
time
stamp,
even
with
a
picture,
if
need
be
so
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
benefits
to
this
system.
T
More
importantly,
I
would
say
that
safety
surely
reigns.
We
can
use
this
as
a
coaching
to
with
our
drivers
and,
quite
frankly,
we
have
a
board
that
we
post
some
of
these
findings
own
and
no
one
wants
to
be
on
that
board,
the
board
of
shame,
and
so
they
do
they
they
do
their
best
to
stay
off
of
their
board.
And,
quite
honestly,
this
system
works
in
our
favor
it.
So
all
in
all,
it's
a
good
system
for
us
to
have
Thank.
S
You
Johnny
and
the
the
third
eye
system
is
just
make
sure
everyone
understands.
This
is
a
GPS
tracking
system.
Okay,
so
it
tracks
everywhere.
That
vehicle
goes
throughout
the
course
of
the
day.
There's
a
microphone
in
the
cab
of
the
truck.
There
is
a
camera.
That's
in
the
cab
faces
out
the
front
of
the
vehicle
faces
out
the
rear
faces
on
the
side,
so
it's
recording
the
entire
day.
We
have
the
ability
that
we
can
live
stream.
We
can
look
and
see
what
our
drivers
are
doing
right
at
that
time.
S
We
can
go
back
and
pull
data.
We've
had
to
do
that
numerous
times.
Just
say
you
know,
hey
my
trash
wasn't
out
and
we
can
go
back
and
pull
the
footage
and
see
if
it
was
out
or
not,
and
so
there's
a
very
helpful
tool
and
we
look
to
continue
to
utilize
that
we
talked
about
the
carts.
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
different
offerings
that
we
have
over
here
across
you
can
see.
S
The
first
container
is
that
what
we
call
a
bear
proof
container,
that's
the
one
that
will
be
available
for
purchase
the
one
right
behind.
It
is
a
standard
96
gallon
container.
We
will
offer
that
for
trash
every
cycle
and
there
behind
that
is
a
64
gallon
and
another
48
gallon
sized
container.
So
you
know
you
have
some
different
offerings.
There
encourage
you
to
go,
take
a
look
at
them.
You
can
wheel
them
around.
Let's
check
out
the
maneuverability
of
them.
S
You
know
some
of
the
smaller
ones
may
give
you
an
opportunity
to
to
put
several
of
them
in
your
garage
or
something
of
that
nature
and
take
up
less
space.
So
hopefully
you'll
find
those
to
your
liking
and
we'll
also
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
transition
plan.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
things
simple.
The
first
thing
that
the
priority
is
we
need
to
order
trucks
and
carts
as
quickly
as
possible.
It
does
take
a
good
bit
of
time
to
get
trucks
in
the
lead.
S
Time
on
that
is,
can
be
greater
than
6
months,
so
ordering
trucks
and
carts
and
getting
those
coming
is
paramount.
Also,
we
need
to
evaluate
the
long
lane
service,
those
goat
trails
that
I
talked
about
earlier
and
we'll
plan
to
get
that
going
right
away
1st
of
July
in
our
current
contract
that
we
have.
We
have
the
ability
to
charge
for
the
long
lengths,
but
we
have
elected
not
to
do
so
for
a
very
long
time.
S
M
S
Small
trucks
work
so
in
our
proposal,
what
we're
looking
at
a
couple
things
we
make
will
probably
keep
some
of
those
trucks.
We
call
those
our
Scout
trucks,
but
we're
going
to
go
to
a
smaller
packing
truck
we've
seen
some
trucks
as
some
of
the
neighboring
communities
like
Biltmore
forests.
We
like
the
model
that
they
use,
they
have
a
smaller
packing
truck.
It
looks
like
it
can
probably
travel
up
most
of
the
roads,
and
that
would
also
give
us
a
lot
more
capacity
during
the
day,
the
Scout
trucks
that
we
currently
use.
S
M
S
So
but
we
also
talked
about
you
know,
we
got
to
get
the
word
out
and
communicate
with
everyone
we're
going
to
do
that
in
several
different
ways.
Through
you
know:
community
meetings,
social
media,
we
talked
about
a
billboard
and
we've
utilized
the
one
over
here
to
Seville
Road.
Before
and
last
but
not
least,
a
very
important
point
of
contact
for
us
will
be
with
the
actual
courts,
because
when
the
carts
are
delivered,
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
offer
a
Welcome
Packet
with
information
about
the
changes
in
the
server
and
who
to
contact.
P
U
P
U
P
For
but
you
know
when
we're
coming
in
at
a
price,
that's
a
fictitious
deal
again.
$20
is
more
than
16
I
wake.
You
know
just
because
you're
furnishing
something
and
it's
like
I've
talked
to
Dane.
You
know.
If
I
can't
behind
I,
don't
want
him
and
that's
that's
you
know
and,
as
he
said,
there's
people
to
go
to
the
transfer
station
or
the
trash
done.
I
think
I
can
probably
do
that.
I
can
handle
the
bag
throw
in
the
car.
P
R
Thank
You
chip,
Johnny
and
I
got
a
couple
more
slides.
Maybe
I
can
memorize
him
there.
We
go
so
summarizing
some
of
the
things
that
chip
and
Johnny
talked
about,
and
some
things
earlier
in
the
presentation.
You
know
we're
looking
at
gangs
and
collections
efficiencies
that
that's
very
important
and
that
that
also
factored
into
the
price.
When
we
look
across
the
industry
and
look
at
other
municipalities,
we
feel
like
we're
getting
a
very
good
value
with
this
price.
For
subscribers.
R
Excuse
me-
and
we
see
you
know
certain
areas
with
rural
collections
like
this,
where
it's
substantially
more
to
go
out
and
provide
these
collections.
We
certainly
feel
that
this
remains
a
cost
effective
option
for,
for
residents
and
and
for
recycling
materials.
That's
that's,
obviously
huge
for
our
strategic
and
sustainability
goals.
Long
term.
We
think
we're
improving
environmental
impacts
by
increasing
the
number
of
CNG
vehicles
providing
safe,
safer
collection
practices
for
workers
we've
hit
on
that
a
lot
because
it's
at
the
top,
the
safety
of
our
our
people,
our
citizens,
that's
that
is
at
the
top.
R
R
Is
that
to
exit
this
board
execute
a
franchise
agreement
with
waste
Pro
for
a
five-year
base
term,
with
an
effective
date
of
January
1st
2020,
and
please
note
purge
solid
waste
ordinance,
section
62
45,
that
franchise
collections
contract
must
be
approved
in
two
consecutive
board
meetings,
so
pending
decision
tonight,
this
will
be
hurting
in
June
4th
and
we
didn't
get
to
the
most
exciting
I
propose
we
actually
put
trashing
the
bear-proof
and
bring
a
live
berry
to
see
how
that
worked.
But
legal.
You
know
how
they.
J
M
M
M
M
P
Dane
still
the
same
one
and
a
head
friend,
you
know
16:08
going
to
basically
twenty
dollars
in
1980,
whatever
that's
still
twenty
dollars
anyway,
you
round
it
out
and
we've
had
the
discussion.
I
would
prefer
to
purchase
I
can't
or
if,
if
they
don't
like
me
purchases,
if
I
want
to
pick
it
up,
they
just
need
to
cut
to
coaster.
I'll
go
back
to
just
like
Joe
said:
I
can
always
take
a
couple
of
bags
of
rice
to
a
transfer
station.
Yes,
sir
Thank
You,
commissioner,
there.
V
P
P
M
W
M
I
didn't
want
to
make
some
comments.
I
am
there
are
some
things
that
I'm
just
that
I'm
disappointed
and
I
think
some
some
you
know
people
are,
but
they
need
information
so
that
we
can
kind
of
calm
that
down
one.
Is
that
I'm
disappointed
that
a
lot
of
other
people
didn't
compete
for
it
I
think
you
know,
when
you
put
a
contract
out,
you
really
kind
of
expect
other
people
to
compete
for
it,
and
you
know
and
there's
there's
folks
in
the
community.
M
That
says
you
know
if
other
people
compete,
poor,
there's
more
accountability
than
someone's
so
forth,
and
so
that
that's
some
comments
I'm
getting
from
our
you
know
constituents
that
they
were
disappointed,
but
the
fact
is
we
put
it
out
there
and
waste
Pro
had
already
made
a
substantial
investment
and
in
the
community
and
other
you
know,
places
had
not
done
that
right,
yes
and
we're
not
willing
to
do
that,
and
so
we
made
sure
in
the
contract
there's
teeth
in
the
country.
This
contract
is
is
totally
different
than
the
contract
we
had
before.
M
And
there
are,
there
are
there's
teeth
in.
It
is
something
that
you
know
we
like
to
say
and
and
I
don't
think
waste
Pro
has
a
problem
with
that.
I
think
they
welcome
that
it
creates
accountability
for
them.
They
have
performance
measures
and
they
are
expected
to
hit
it,
and
if
they
don't
hit
it,
then
you
know
there
are
charges
that
can
be
made.
M
I
do
want
to
say,
though,
that
you
know
a
fine
is,
is
is
okay,
but
if
somebody,
you
know
I
think
some
consumers
are
not
really
concerned
about
Buncombe
County
getting
getting
fine
money
and
they
want.
They
don't
want
to
pay
their
bill
if
they.
If,
if
you
miss
the
service,
you
know,
then
they
know
a
lot
of
folks
will
say:
well,
I
don't
want
to
pay
my
I
shouldn't
pay
my
bill,
so
I
think
y'all
guys.
M
You
know
need
to
think
about
that
when
you're
thinking
about
service
you're
thinking
about,
if
you
run
into
an
issue,
the
other
thing
too
to
Mike's
comment,
I
think
there
would
there
is
going
to
be
differences.
You
all
know
that
you
know
the
gentleman
I'm
sorry
chip.
The
gentleman
to
your
right
is
Tony.
X
M
Sorry
Johnny,
you
know
Johnny
Johnny's
been
all
over
this
County,
and
so
you
know
there's
a
big
difference
between
Biltmore
forests
and
Reeves,
Cove
and
canler.
You
know,
and
when
you
go
to
pick
up,
you
guys
will
make
those
adjustments
and
and
so
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
I
will
say
that
from
a
commissioner
standpoint
for
what
input
that
I
would
have
you
know,
I,
don't
I,
don't
expect
y'all
to
give
and
and
I
would
not
accept
any
excuses
for
whether
routes
equipment
I
mean
y'all
have
backup
for
that.
So
we
just
you
know.
M
Let
the
community
know
that
you
know
you're.
You
are
standing
behind
all
that.
You
know
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
delivered
properly,
but
I
I
have
I
like
the
contract.
I
like
the
teeth.
That's
in
it
I
think
it
was
well
negotiated.
I
did
you
know
I'm
I'm
disappointed
that
we
didn't
have
a
lot
of
people
apply,
but
that
it
is
what
it
is
and
it
is
subscriber
base.
M
So
people
can,
if
they,
if
they
don't
want
to,
if
they
don't
want
it,
then
they
don't
have
to
keep
it
and
and
I
think
maybe
y'all
might
want
to
consider
in
some
of
the
areas
I'm
excited
about
getting
container.
You
know
my
wife's
excited
about
getting
a
container,
but
some
some
people
might
might
not
be,
and
some
people
might
want
to
might
want
to
buy
it.
You
might
want
to
think
about
that
and
think
about
the
rate
or
whatever,
but
but
II
mean
you
assess
my
comments.
A
Y
Well,
I,
don't
leave
real
nice
Bank
danger
point
me
to
committee,
but
he
may
not
be
glad
he
appointed
me
after
tonight,
but
we'll
find
out
if
I
ever
get
on
another
one
I'm
a
citizen
I
can
cut
through
the
BS
trash
I
know
my
dad
bought
the
first
Roloff
cart
from
brownie
hider.
Most
of
you
don't
even
know
the
history
of
brownie
hider.
Y
Y
But
what
I
do
think
in
working
with
Dane
is
he's
going
to
work
with
the
company
and
when
I
reference
check
them
and
believe
you
me:
I
worked
with
management
critters,
so
I
never
get
the
person
that
I'm
told
to
talk
to
I
represent
this
company
with
one
of
their
companies,
and
they
said
that
they
are
trying
very
hard
now
to
be
proactive
rather
than
reactive.
Now
to
be
proactive
requires.
The
county
is
involved,
one
time.
I
call
the
county
and
ask
for
had
a
problem.
You
know
what
I
was
told
called
cotton.
Y
We
don't
know
anything
about
that.
The
county
can't
do
that
anymore,
but
there's
one
thing
that
bugs
me
about
this
contract:
they
only
have
54
customers
per
square
mile,
yep
I
figured
it
folks
and
that
ain't
profitable
for
a
trash
company.
That's
probably
why
Mike
they're
trying
to
pick
up
at
extra
3
or
4
dollars
a
month.
They
making
no
money
lot,
but
it's
their
first
contract
if
had
Northey
and
I
didn't
want
to
keep
it.
They
want
to
grow
the
business.
Y
Y
Well,
now,
I
proposed
and
I
can't
see
why
the
company
won't
do
this
because
they
can't
afford
to
lose
you
Mike.
They
need
that
54
per
square
mile
and
they
need
more
added
to
it.
So
why
don't
they
give
that
customer
that
lives
down
a
long
road?
A
choice,
buying
the
stickers
and
I'll
be
more
than
glad
to
tell
you
where
you
can
get
them
in
the
variety
you
can
get
and
you
can
see
from
those
stickers.
You
can
put
a
sticker
in
a
special
bag
and
charge
a
special
charge.
Y
Z
Monica
Crais
inka
canler,
a
new
program
assistant
for
seek
healing
nonprofit
and
our
community,
helping
with
the
opioid
epidemic,
also
leadership,
Asheville
graduate
as
well.
Firstly,
I
apologize
for
my
parents
this
evening,
apparently
nonprofit
work
is
not
always
glamorous,
so
I
apologize
for
the
casuals
mr.
Fryar,
based
on
your
comments,
I
feel
compelled
to
reeducate
our
community
that
a
big
addiction
does
not
discriminate.
It
knows
no
color
religion,
race,.
A
A
U
So
the
second
thing
is:
we
have
implemented
a
couple
programs
already
in
the
area
where
we
have
made
the
switch
to
carts
and
have
seen
tremendous
success
in
in
diversion
of
recyclables
out
of
the
waste
stream
and
a
lot
of
it's
because
of
the
extra
capacity
that
a
car
provides.
So
people
will,
you
know,
use
a
variety
of
excuses.
Why
they're
not
going
to
recycle
I,
don't
want
to
buy
the
bag
I.
U
V
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
boy,
you
know
back
when
I
first
started
coming
down.
Mr.
black
headed
black
beard,
I
was
young
and
I
could
handle
a
garbage
bag.
You
know,
I
could
probably
handle
the
bear
that
got
after
that
garbage.
But
if
you
get
older,
you
learned
you
can't
do
what
you
used
to
now.
I'm
gonna
tell
you
a
good
story.
V
If
you
ever
watch
the
news
about
the
dogs
and
the
cats
and
how
people
love
him,
think
they
grab
ahold
of
them
things
and
they
go
down
the
road
and
the
dogs
are
pulling
them.
That's
young
people
I'm
talking
about,
but
the
old
people.
You
know
what
happened.
They
get
wrapped
around
the
tree,
they're
getting
around
the
bush
and
then
the
duck
dog
gets
loose.
V
That's
what
I
see
coming
with
these
trash
bins
when
you
live
in
the
area
that
I
live
in
and
you
got
to
go
down
a
300-foot
road
to
the
bottom
and
that
carts
gonna
get
away
from
you.
Kocha
average
is
35
pounds
in
them
things,
and
you
know
you
get
a
lot
more
than
that
at
Christmas
Thanksgiving,
though,
if
you're
all
about
health
and
safety,
you
need
to
think
about.
What's
gonna
happen
to
the
majority
of
these
people
going
down
that
driveway
now
this
is
real.
V
This
ain't
no
place
you
can
carry
a
little
bag
once
in
a
while.
But
this
cart
it's
all.
You
can
do
to
drive
that
car.
Now.
What
I
propose
is
this
company
to
come
up
with
four-wheel
drives
for
cards?
Four-Wheel
drive
cards
because
in
some
of
these
places,
you're
gonna
have
to
have
carts
that
to
hold
it
back
line
you're
going
down
that
driveway,
because
a
human
being
ain't
gonna
hold
these
carts,
not
even
them.
Over
there
they're
gonna
have
the
kids
carrying
dinner.
V
Can
you
imagine
what
its
gonna
be
strode
down
that
driveway
they
gonna
come
crying
back
to
mama.
Oh
yeah
I
lost
the
trash.
You
know
now.
You
might
think
it's
funny,
but
this
is
real.
There
gonna
be
some
serious
problems.
I
can
see
where
some
people
lives
on
this
poop.
You
know
incline
they're
used
to
dealing
with
the
city
trash,
not
the
county,
not
the
country,
they
ain't
got
into
the
country
yet.
V
A
E
M
E
R
R
R
What
it's
going
to
be
a
major
transition-
and
you
saw
in
waste,
pros
slide
talking
about
the
bag
tags.
You
know
that
that's
the
reasons
we're
doing
these
things
is
ultimately
to
get
in
a
better
position
with
this
contract
or
to
provide
a
more
durable
contract.
No,
there
will
be
some
transitional
bag
tags
for
folks,
it's
one
of
those
situational.
You
talk
to
other
counties,
municipalities.
It
was
tough
to
transition
to
cars
and
the
next
six
months
for
Buncombe
County,
Solid
Waste
for
waste
probe.
R
A
bulk
of
that
time
is
gonna,
be
spent
getting
out
communicating
with
people
and
get
an
understanding
out
of
what
what
the
changes
are.
Gonna
be
so
we're
working
to
you
know
obviously
make
that
transition
like
what's
a
seamless
but
but
as
smooth
as
possible.
So
those
are
those
are
areas
we're
gonna
have
to
work
with.
The
customers
on
education
is
the
biggest
thing
on
that.
Well,.
E
L
Q
R
E
A
Won't
be
once
there
once
we
have
the
carts,
which
I
think
is
gonna,
do
a
lot
of
good.
It
will
be
waste
pros
responsibility
to
pick
up
the
trash
in
the
cars.
It
will
not
be
their
responsibility
to
pick
up
trash.
If
it's
not
in
a
cart,
it's
clearly
not
one
of
their
or
unless
it's
tagged
brass.
That's
clearly
not
one
of
their
subscribing
customers
and
it
becomes
an
enforcement
issue,
an
education
issue
for
the
county,
because
someone's
you
know
some
was
dumping
trash
out
there,
yeah
right
so
there's
gonna
be.
M
P
I
have
a
91
year
old
neighbor,
and
you
know
she.
She
can't
really
talk
one
of
these
any
of
these
out
to
the
front.
She
does
not
have
that
much.
Her
husband
died
three
years
ago
going
on
four
years
ago.
I
helped
her
I
tried
to
do
do
what
I
can,
but
if
we
have
tags
to
put
on
bags,
she
puts
her
stuff
and
she
has
the
blue
bag.
She
has
her
trash
bag,
Y
packed
and
that's
what
she
basically
what's
what
we
put
out.
S
S
No,
that
would
not
be
a
premium
service.
The
only
time
that
premium
service
would
take
come
into
effect
would
be
if
we
have
to
have
a
special
vehicle
to
go
down
this
goat
trail
to
get
to
you,
we
would
have
to
charge
a
premium
for
that,
but
for
the
backdoor
service
itself,
no,
there
would
not
be
a
premium
for
that,
and
if
you
don't
mind
just
one
other
thing,
I
need
to
note.
You
know
on
the
long
wings
you
know.
S
A
P
A
Opposed
and
we'll
vote
again
in
our
next
meeting,
all
right,
Thank
You
gentleman.
Thank
you.
Okay,
all
right.
The
next
item,
it's
being
presented
by
Matt
Cable,
it's
regarding
rates
for
purchase
transportation
services
provided
under
the
transportation
agreement
between
the
county
of
bunkum
and
the
city
of
Asheville.
L
Good
evening
mr.
chairman
and
commissioners,
I
always
feel
like
I'm
owed
a
little
bit
of
a
disadvantage
when
I
followed
a
gnat
anything
most
of
what
I
have
to
say,
isn't
ever
as
funny,
but
tonight
I.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
make
this
request
for
your
action.
The
request
is
associated
with
our
transportation
agreement
between
the
county
and
the
city
of
Asheville.
The
purposes
of
that
agreement
are
to
allow
the
city
of
Asheville
to
purchase
transportation
from
Buncombe
County
through
the
mountain
nobility
system
they
purchased
88,
complementary
paratransit
services
from
the
county.
L
The
agreement
spells
out
a
rate
structure
and
what
we
are
proposing
is
a
rate
increase
for
services
operated
during
regular
hours
of
mount
mobility
service.
The
existing
agreement
spells
out
a
dollar
thirty
cent
rate
per
service
mile
for
that
contract,
and
we
are
proposing
to
increase
that
rate
for
that
particular
aspect
of
the
service
to
a
dollar
in
92
cents.
L
Information
about
the
rate
increase
has
been
communicated
from
county
staff
to
city
staff.
Over
the
last
year,
we
actually
started
these
communications
back
in
June,
indicating
that
the
county
would
be
seeking
a
rate
increase
from
the
city
and
the
reason
that
we
are
requesting
to
increase
from
the
city
which
they
have
incorporated
into
their
proposed
budget
for
FY
2020
is
to
allow
the
county
to
continue
to
allocate
the
same
amount
of
general
fund
dollars
to
operate.
Mount
mobility
system
without
having
to
increase
that
transfer
from
the
general
fund
into
the
operating
fund
for
transportation.
L
And
so
this
rate
would
effectively
allow
that
flat
contribution
from
the
general
fund
and
would
be
within
the
parameters
of
what's
established.
Under
the
agreement
in
terms
of
a
rate
structure
with
the
city,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
have
about
the
existing
rate
structure
or
what's
proposed
right.
C
A
X
Good
evening,
chairman
and
commissioners,
so
this
is
an
item
that
is
greater
than
the
250,000
dollars
that
other
budget
amendments
are
on
consent.
Agenda
answer
this
one
is
in
excess
of
that
so
come
in
before
you
on
new
business
as
a
request
to
increase
the
revenues
and
the
expenditures
for
deed
stamp
excise
tax.
The
additional
revenue
for
the
sale
of
mission
is
we've
referenced
that
a
few
meetings
ago
and
about
1.2
million
dollars.
V
A
A
A
All
right,
there's
a
motion:
is
there
a
second
all
right,
I,
just
wanna
make
one
note
I'm
supportive
of
the
motion.
I
think
we
should
just
acknowledge.
Emily
ball
does
not
live
in
Buncombe
County.
We
do
have
a
county.
We
have
a
policy
that
members
of
these
boards
should
be
residents
of
Buncombe
County.
Emily
is
very
involved
in
homeward
bound.
A
U
A
A
We
just
think
that
do
we
need
to
look
at
that
to
make
sure
it
can
we
approve
her
contingent
upon
kind
of
confirming
that
that
it's
actually
legally
permissible
to
do
so,
I
mean
it's
our
it's
our
policy,
there's
no
state,
there's
no
state
regulations
or
anything
on
this.
My
hope
is
that
we
could
we
could
have
a
have
a
general.
You
know
this
is
a
general
standard,
but
that
we
could
have
variances
to
them
if
the
county
deems
that
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
Do.
M
I'm
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that
I'm
Mike
retract
my
motion
and
just
go
ahead
and
approve
the
three
reappointments
and
then
we
can
figure
all
this
out
later
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
change
my
motion.
If
it's
okay
to
approve
you
know,
help
me
out
Garret,
Kelly
and
me
and
I'll
make
that
that
motion,
not
that
I'm
against
the
other
person.
I
just
think
it'd
be
I,
think
I'd
be
the
cleanest
way.
All.
A
Right
so
there's
a
motion
for
those
three
mm-hmm
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed.
So
could
we
just
maybe
have
a
poll
of
the
board
to
just
first
of
all
confirm
if
there
is
interest
in
appointing
Emily
to
the
to
the
board,
we
would
need
to
kind
of
check
and
make
sure
we're
not
doing
anything.
That's
not
permissible
from
a
legal
standpoint,
but
even
it's
just
to
work
on
the
assumption
for
a
minute
that
it
is
permissible
if
the
board
deems
it.
A
A
We
asked
them
that
and
I
think
they
said
that
Emily
would
be
the
right
person
from
that
organization
to
be
on
the
board.
So
they
don't
have
anybody
from
Buncombe
County.
Well,
there's
other
people
in
the
organization,
but
just
based
on
her
role
in
the
organization.
They
feel
like
she's,
the
right
person
I,
don't.
I
A
You
know
the
way
I
think
about
it
is
we've
had,
although
I
don't
know,
we
could
look
at
this
too.
If
we're
gonna
do
a
little
research
on
it.
You
know
we've
had
policies
around,
not
appointing
people
to
more
than
two
terms
on
boards.
I
think
there's
many
people
who
have
served
for
more
than
two
terms
on
boards
from
time
to
time.
You
know
and
I
think
that's
a
really
important
policy
when
I
would
be
very
reticent
to
make
exceptions
to.
But
my
sense
is
that
it's
probably
within
our
power
to
do
this.
J
Representative
to
Hayek
I
have
some
extra
information.
If
you'd
like
to
I
spoke
with
Emily
in
advance
of
this
meeting
to
find
out,
if
there
could,
if,
if
it
wasn't
either
allowable
by
policy
or
the
preference
of
the
board,
would
homeward-bound
have
another
person
that
they
could
put
on
the
board
and
they
have
a
new
director.
Meredith
Switzer
has
been
in
the
position
just
very
shortly
and
hadn't
been
in
her
position
when
Emily
applied
for
her
e
appointment
and
she
would
be
the
backup
all.
B
M
A
A
K
A
M
A
P
A
M
A
M
B
A
A
K
K
V
K
K
K
A
A
Now
come
to
general
public
comments,
so
the
time
limit
so
so
folks
are
welcome
to
comment
to
us
about
any
items
except
items
that
we've
already
taken
public
comment
on
earlier
in
the
agenda.
You've
got
three
minutes,
please
let
us
know
your
name
where
you
live
and
we'll
start
without
this
gentleman.
AA
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Craig:
Bohan
I
live
at
26,
long
Cove
roads
and
lease
Hester,
North
Carolina
I
have
some
pictures
with
the
pH
probe
showed
is
where
I
live.
I
have
Bob
cans
for
them.
We
have
cleaned
it
up
multiple
times,
mr.
Presley,
if
the
county
has
cleaned
it
up
three
times
we
have
needles
TVs
in
the
creek.
They
just
throw
their
garbage
everywhere.
I've
been
everywhere
to
help.
There's
nobody
willing
to
help
me
about
this
garbage
we
take
hours
to
the
county
station
every
Monday
and
nobody's
willing
to
help
us.
AA
This
is
my
last
chance
hope
to
get
some
help
from
somebody
from
somewhere.
We've
called
the
Sheriff's
Department
and
we
just
can't
get
any
help.
It
looks
like
a
land
feeling
at
our
house
and
where
we
go
to
church,
they
say
Oh
y'all
live
on
garbage
road.
Now,
so
you
know
we're
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
can
get
some
help
and
one
our
next
movie
is
to
try
to
clean
up.
We've
spent
over
a
thousand
dollars
ourselves
buying
cans,
the
big
rolling
cans
they're
there.
They
just
don't
use
them.
AA
I
AA
A
AA
A
E
AB
Hi,
my
name
is
Roy
Harris
and
I'm
a
36
year
resident
of
Balcombe
County
33
year,
residents
of
the
city
of
Asheville
this
year,
I've
been
walking
all
over
the
city
of
Asheville
and
I'm,
starting
to
walk
out
in
the
county.
Also,
and
one
of
the
questions
I
have
for
the
city
of
Asheville
as
to
County
of
bunkum,
also
is
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
where
you
spend
money
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
live
in
what
they
call
the
Southside
neighborhood,
which
is
basically
around
the
Astro
middle
school.
AB
And
so
someone
reminded
me,
oh,
that
you
study
in
the
city.
Maybe
you
need
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
the
county
also
because
you
pay
more
taxes
to
the
county,
so
I'm,
just
trying
to
figure
out
you
and
one
of
the
things
I
can
readily
see-
is
that
the
Asheville
middle
school
is
within
three
or
four
blocks
of
my
house.
So
I
know
where
that
money
goes
but
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
words.
AB
Money
spent
in
my
neighborhood
and
I'm
being
dogmatic
about
the
south
side,
because
the
South
Side
neighborhood
is
one
of
those
neighborhoods
that
is
being
vastly
quickly
almost
overwhelmingly
gentrified
and
as
I
see
that
happen
around
me
and
in
fact
one
of
the
stories
I'm
telling
across
the
state
of
North,
Carolina
and
probably
even
in
the
world,
is
that
I
came
out
of
my
house
about
six
months
ago
and
went
down
and
looked
at
a
home
within
one
block
of
problem.
My
house
and
I
called
an
ass.
AB
I
was
a
listing
price
of
it
and
West
calmness,
says
420
thousand
dollars.
I
look
back
and
I
could
see
the
top
of
my
house,
the
roof
of
my
house,
which
I
paid
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
1986
and
so
I'm,
saying
woo.
Something
is
going
on
in,
but
I
know
that
the
neighborhood
is
being
gentrified,
so
I
just
have
I
just
my
one
question
to
the
county
is:
how
can
I
know
that?
What
kind
of
money
and
where
the
money
is
cuz
I
just
want
to
see
it
feel
it
taste
it
smell
it.
AB
All
of
my
senses.
I
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
see
it's
where
the
county
is
spending
money
in
my
neighborhood,
because
we're
being
gentrified
and
it's
going
on,
and
so
that's
the
one
question
thank
you
for
the
budget
and
to
the
new
county
manager
I'm
from
the
East
Coast.
Also,
so
thank
you
for
coming
to
the
mountains
and
everything
and
so
gonna
be
glad
to
work
with
you
and
thank
you
very
much.
I
A
V
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
member
board,
well
I've
been
around
long
enough,
tens,
a
few
other
things
here.
You
know
the
L
and
me
and
MCO,
and
all
this
stuff
you
heard
about
opioid
today.
Well,
you
know
the
state
just
locked
you
into
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
they've
you've
been
paying
that
to
mental
health,
plus
all
the
other
money
you
put
in,
which
amounts
to
probably
seven
million
several
million
dollars,
or
so
so
the
state
is
fixing
to
screw
you
again,
don't
stick,
no
more
money
in
it.
V
V
Talking
about
all
this
now,
let's
go
to
an
issue:
nine
one
one
I
call
nine
one.
One
I've
already
talked
to
one
of
the
commissioners
up
there
about
this,
and
it
took
two
hours
when
I
got
home.
I
mean
four
hours
after
the
first
call.
In
then,
four
hours
later,
I
made
a
call
and
it
took
him
30
minutes
to
get
out.
V
Then
it
took
another
25
to
30
minutes
to
process
and
then,
when
they
got
through
processing
the
addict
that
was
there,
they
took
her
off
the
premises,
put
her
in
the
sheriff
car
without
searching
her
her
bags
and
all
and
left
and
dropped
her
off
it
to
store
down
the
road
they
did
not
have
a
place
to
take
her.
Now,
that's
sad!
That's
really
sad!
V
Now
the
opioid
I
want
you
to
think
about
how
you
can
fix
something,
and
you
need
to
get
your
legislators
to
do
this.
The
doctors
are
getting
kickbacks
on
the
prescriptions
that
they're
writing
and
some
of
them
is
making
more
than
they're
making
inter
practice.
Now
this
is
nationwide
this
ain't
just
in
North
Carolina.
So
if
you
can,
if
you
can
do
this
with
your
legislators,
what
I'd
recommend
you
know
what
the
fines
and
forfeitures
is
the
money
that's
going
to
Buncombe
County
schools
in
the
city.
V
V
Y
I
want
you
all
to
put
your
thinking,
hats
on
look
at
you,
budget,
look
at
where
you're
gonna
be
next
year
and
see.
We've
got
all
these
wonderful
projects.
We
got
to
fight
opioids,
we
got
to
build,
affordable
housing.
We
got
to
take
care
of
the
schools.
We
got
to
take
care
of
this
project.
We
got
to
take
care
of
that
project,
just
go
ahead
and
raise
the
tax
rate
10
cents
this
year.
Y
Y
Bullock
go
ahead
and
get
to
the
point
where
you
taxed
me
out
of
my
house:
taxing
me
out
of
my
rental
houses,
because
I
can't
rent
them
because
you
got
affordable,
housing
being
built,
taking
my
tax
dollars
being
affordable
housing,
so
I
can't
rent
my
houses
just
go
ahead
and
get
me
to
that
poor
point
where
I
can
come
to
you
to
say
help
me
throw
me
out
up
gonna,
throw
me
out
of
my
house.
Are
you
because
that's
exactly
where
we're
headed
folks?
Is
anybody
seen
what
the
taxes
in
New
York
is?
Y
Now
anybody
seen
what
the
taxes
in
Asheville
are
now
look
at
it
yeah
these
little
houses
in
Nashville
figure,
what
they're
paying
just
in
county
and
city
taxes.
It
is
getting
to
the
point.
People
are
leaving
New,
York
and
New.
York
is
considering
taxing
people
that
leave
because
they're
so
desperate
for
money,
Mike,
you
gotta,
say
no,
sometimes
period
because
everything
I
mentioned
use
good
and
everything
that
everybody
comes
up
here.
They
say.
Oh,
it's,
wonderful
and
I
guarantee
you
next
year.
Y
There'll
be
another
super
good
project
come
in
from
affordable
housing
and
they'll
have
another
two
or
three
for
me
and
won't
another
two,
three
four
millions
from
you
and
they're
gonna,
bring
it
in
here
five
days
for
they
gotta
have
the
answer.
You
know
I'm
right
al
five
days
before
the
answer,
so
just
go
ahead
back
to
bullet
I
propose
you
do
ten
cents
added
on
to
the
taxes
right
now,
let's
see
who
votes
for
it,
elections
coming.
Let's
see
you
vote
for
it
admit
it
that
way.
Y
You
don't
have
to
worry
about
all
these
problems.
You
can
just
hand
out
money
to
anybody
coming
and
going.
Wouldn't
it
be
nice,
make
everybody
happy,
I'm,
serious,
I'd
be
very
serious,
and
most
of
you
don't
believe
that
yet
but
I'm
being
serious
cuz,
that's
exactly
where
you're
headed
just
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
AC
Good
evening
my
name
is
Alan
Coxie
I
am
a
lifelong
resident
in
Buncombe
County
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Buncombe
County
Bar
I'm,
also
on
the
family
treatment
court
here
in
the
Baulkham
County
Courthouse
wanted
to
rise
to
speak
today
to
ask
you
to
maintain
funding
for
the
Buncombe
County
Family
treatment.
I
was
very
pleased
to
hear
the
opioid
briefing
that
occurred
today.
AC
Having
been
a
Nashville
firefighter
for
many
years,
I
can
tell
you
I
know
what
it's
like
to
be
on
the
frontline
of
dealing
with
substance,
abuse
issues,
so
I
encourage
you
to
keep
keep
your
best
efforts
going
forward.
I
was
pleased
to
hear
the
sheriff's
presentation
on
Matt.
Our
court
system
has
looked
very
closely
at
the
issue
of
Matt
and
we've
come
to
the
same
conclusion
that
sheriff
Miller
has
that
it
is
best
evidence
and
best
practice,
and
so
we
are
embracing
Matt
with
the
family
treatment
quarters,
we'll
enjoyed
hearing
mr.
guards
presentation.
AC
She
pointed
out
the
adult
treatment
court
in
Buncombe
County,
but
we
have
four
courts.
She
only
mentioned
one.
We
have
the
family
treatment
court,
which
I'm
a
member
on.
We
have
the
W
DWI
court
that
judge
Keppel
handles
and
works
to
reduce
issues
with
drinking
and
driving
here
in
Buncombe
County,
and
we
also
have
the
veteran's
treatment
Court
that
Judge
Pope
has
been
managing
for
the
last
couple
years.
Would
ask
the
commissioners
to
consider
continuing
funding
for
these
very
important
for
diversionary
courts,
as
they
really
do
put
a
dent
in
the
issues
of
substance.
AC
Abuse
in
Buncombe,
County
I
know
that
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human,
Services
and
I
know
that
DSS
is
currently
undergoing
a
treatment
philosophy
change
towards
early
intervention,
as
evidenced
by
the
Start
program.
We
understand
that
that
shift
has
to
do
with
family
reunification
to
avoid
TPR,
but
we
would
ask
that
you
consider
that
the
family
treatment
court
is
an
early
intervener
for
persons
with
substance
abuse.
We
focus
on
parents
whose
children
are
in
the
juvenile
courts.
We
accept
any
persons
who
referred
as
early
as
the
referral
might
be.
AC
So
in
that
way
we
are
in
or
early
intervention
as
well.
We
also
work
very
hard
with
the
sheriff
in
the
jail
to
divert
people
from
the
Buncombe
County
Jail.
We
have
to
three
people
who
regularly
come
to
our
courts
and
we
admit
them
and
work
with
them
on
their
substance.
Abuse
issues
per
per
meeting
I
did
submit
a
letter
last
month
concerning
the
family
treatment
court.
Each
of
you
have
that
asked
you
to
look
back
at
that,
and
I
would
like
to
just
say.
AC
One
thing
in
closing,
since
my
time
is,
is
coming
up
as
a
firefighter
I
know
how
important
it
is
to
save
lives.
I
think
our
diversion
courts,
our
family
courts
are
lifesavers
in
the
same
way
that
emergency
responders
are
lifesavers,
so
the
courts
refer
people
whose
lives
are
in
danger
to
the
family
treatment
courts.
I
ask
you
to
continue
to
fund
them
a
respectfully
request
funding
for
the
family
treatment
court.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
A
Q
A
Well,
so
this
one's
at
noon,
but
I
think
it's
I,
think
there's
some
interest
in
just
kind
of
continuing
to
think
about
the
the
timing
around
episode
we
can.
We
can
do
that.
Then
all
right
and
just
once
again
on
Monday
May
27th
at
2:30
p.m.
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
are
hosting
the
Asheville
Buncombe
Memorial
Day
ceremony
on
the
Roger
McGuire
green
impact,
Square
Park,
and
we
do
not
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session
this
evening.