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This is part 1 of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (November 7, 2017).
A
A
This
Saturday,
as
we
do
each
year
on
November
11th,
our
nation,
will
observe
Veterans
Day.
This
is
a
day
set
aside
to
honor
and
thank
all
Americans
who
have
served
in
the
United
States
Armed
Services
Veterans
Day
also
coincides
with
Armistice
Day
celebrating
the
day
and
the
time
11
a.m.
of
the
Armistice
between
Germany
France,
Great
Britain
and
the
United
States
and
other
nations
that
brought
World
War
one
to
an
end.
This
Saturday
is
the
99th
anniversary
of
the
end
of
one
of
the
most
horrible
wars
in
human
history.
As
we
approach
this
Veterans
Day.
A
Let's
take
time
to
thank
those
who
have
served
our
country.
There
will
be
a
Veterans
Day
ceremony
at
the
Charles
George
VA
Medical
Center
here
in
Nashville.
This
Saturday
at
11
a.m.
the
keynote
speaker
will
be,
will
be
Nicolas
War,
a
former
Marine,
a
Vietnam
veteran
and
author.
The
public
is
invited
to
attend
and
let's
also
take
a
moment
to
thank
the
veterans
and
our
families
and
our
neighborhoods
and
workplaces.
In
that
spirit,
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
the
veterans
that
we
have
who
serve
on
this
board
of
commissioners.
Commissioner.
A
A
A
Thank
you
and
finally,
before
we
begin
our
meeting
I
would
also
like
to,
on
behalf
of
the
County
Commission,
extend
a
happy
birthday
to
Billy
Graham,
who
is
celebrating
his
99th
birthday
this
year
and
to
wish
to
send
good
wishes
to
him
and
the
the
Graham
family
all
right.
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us,
I'd
like
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
If
there
is
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
it,
is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also
does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
seeing
none
all
board
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
items
that
we
vote
on
this
evening.
All
right,
we
now
come
to
public
comment.
A
Let
me
just
share
our
policies
on
public
comment.
If
you
want
to
comment,
please
share
your
name
and
where
you
live,
the
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
command
e
stone
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
matters
during
public
comment.
This
is
the
public's
chance
to
speak
to
us
and
the
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
any
subject.
A
B
So
when
you
look
at
the
economic
impact
that
it
takes
so
I
have
here
a
study
that
was
done
on
ten
case
cities
in
the
US
and
I
have
Burlington
Vermont
as
one
study
that
I
thought
was
pretty
similar
to
Asheville
and
the
Burlington
electric
manager
of
power
resources
stated
that
the
transition
and
thought
from
2004
to
2008
was
from.
We
want
to
do
this.
This
actually
makes
economic
economic
sense
for
us
to
do
this,
but
ultimately
say
city,
city
officials.
It
came
down
to
economics,
we're
a
ship
to
renewable
energies
was
the
cheapest
risk.
B
Burlington
estimates
it
will
save
twenty
million
dollars
over
the
next
twenty
years
by
moving
away
from
fossil
fuels,
and
customers
have
seen
a
direct
benefit.
Now,
when
you
look
at
Duke
Energy
and
the
coal
ash
that
has
caused
our
rates
to
raise
and
the
environmental
impact
that
we
couldn't
see
ten
years
out
from
coal
and
the
renewable
resources
has
a
less
of
a
impact
on
our
environment
and
economy,
because
of
that
because
of
the
coal
ash
cost
us
more
money
and
renewable
energies
are
more
reliable.
B
C
C
Renewable
energy
is
a
huge
step
towards
the
more
sustainable
future
that
my
generation
is
working
towards.
I
am
confident.
Those
in
my
age
group
feel.
Similarly,
fifty
or
more
of
the
students
of
our
students
attended
this
seminar
at
my
school
hosted
by
Duke
Energy
and
browny
Newman
to
work
on
implementing
solar
at
our
school
or
local
Ingles.
C
After
their
presentation,
there
were
amazing
questions
for
the
speakers,
and
the
students
were
deeply
interested
in
the
excited
atmosphere.
You
could
feel
how
pumped
people
were
at
the
concept,
reducing
our
impact
on
this
world
with
climate
change
looming
over
our
heads
and
how
quickly
we
are
depleting
our
resources.
This
is,
it
is
crucial.
We
look
towards
alternative
options.
This
is
the
asheville
area.
If
we
don't
set
the
example
who
will
renewable
energy
is
the
future.
Our
future
moving
away
from
fossil
fuels
is
inevitable
and
I
for
one
would
deeply
appreciate
the
head
start.
D
D
D
I've
had
a
very
hard
past
year
and
it's
proven
that
every
moment
of
your
life
is
precious
and
that
you
have
to
make
an
impact.
While
you
can,
while
you
can
and
while
you're
here
I've
lost
people
in
my
life,
our
Asheville
community
has
lost
people.
Our
nation
has
lost
so
many
to
tragedy
after
tragedy.
D
You
have
to
do
everything
you
can
to
save
the
world
before
the
world.
Sweeps
you
away
too,
and
this
is
your
opportunity
to
do
so.
What's
important
is
making
the
biggest
change
you
can
for
our
community.
While
you
are
here
and
that's
why
we
voted
you
into
office
so
that
you
can
change
our
community
in
the
way
that
we
can't
on
our
own.
D
E
Hey
my
name
is
Tallulah
clothes.
My
address
is
22
Riverbend
rez
and
I
am
currently
a
senior
at
ace.
Internals,
high
school
and
I
would
like
to
voice
my
support
for
the
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
resolution.
As
a
young
person
facing
the
threat
of
climate
change
over
reliance
on
non-renewable
energy
I
ask
you
to
consider
making
our
County
a
model
community
that
may
inspire
other
parts
of
the
state
and
country
to
make
similar
changes
in
favor
of
renewable
energy.
E
F
F
F
Every
night
me
and
my
dad
watched
the
news
and
we
look
at
the
natural
disasters
that
happen
on
a
daily
basis,
almost
a
daily
basis
and
so
time's.
It
seems
so
hopeless,
but
when
we
can
do
something
on
a
local
level,
it's
so
motivating
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
help
that
and
I
want
you
to
be
able
to
help
that.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
G
Hi,
my
name
is
Sydney
Tyson
I
live
at
eight
Fox
berry
drive
in
Arden
and
I'm
a
senior
at
TCC,
Roberson,
high
school
I'm,
very
passionate
about
protecting
our
environment,
so
much
that
I
plan
to
focus
my
higher
education
on
environmental
engineering
as
a
young
adult
I
realized
that
decisions
made
today
will
have
a
direct
impact
not
only
on
my
generation
by
the
generations
to
come
as
a
county
shouldn't.
We
be
doing
everything
within
our
power
to
provide
an
ever
improving
solution.
G
We
have
already
taken
important
steps
towards
a
goal
of
100
percent
renewable
energy,
such
as
replacing
the
light
bulbs
in
our
schools
to
LEDs
and
placing
a
solar
farm
on
the
county's
retired
landfill.
These
and
other
steps
that
the
county
has
already
taken
show
a
willingness
to
embrace
environmental
responsibility
at
a
countywide
level.
Increasing
the
supply
of
renewable
energy
will
have
a
multitude
of
benefits.
It
will
help
replace
carbon
intensive
energy
sources
and
drastically
reduce
global
warming
emissions.
As
a
result,
our
public
health
quality
will
improve.
G
Let's
clean
our
water
in
it,
it
will
create
more
jobs
and
the
cost
is
already
affordable
and
is
expected
to
decrease.
Renewable
energy
is
also
more
reliable
and
resilient
with
the
likelihood
of
extreme
weather
events
that
we
have
seen
occurring
because
of
global
warming.
I
have
grown
up
hearing
about
the
environmental
impact
of
climate
change
and
on
sustainable
practice.
Today,
I
see
things
that
are
being
taken
for
granted
being
threatened.
G
For
example,
we
all
love
chocolate
and
chocolate
is
made
from
the
cacao
bean,
which
is
in
danger
from
the
unsustainable
practices
that
are
going
on
today,
while
here
in
Asheville,
we
don't
grow
cacao
beans,
but
we
do
enjoy
abundance
of
income
from
tourism
and
local
businesses
for
embracing
100%
renewable
energy
plan.
Our
County
will
be
showing
its
citizens,
tourists
and
potential
business
investors
that
we
are
serious
at
protecting
our
environment
for
all
of
those
who
enjoy
it
now
and
in
the
future.
G
Buncombe
County
is
a
climate
data
hub
and
as
such,
we
should
be
leading
the
way
in
environmentally
responsible
practices.
Please
vote
YES
for
the
hundred
percent
renewable
energy
plan
and
show
your
steadfast
commitment
to
the
environment.
The
local
community
into
future
generations.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
H
Hi,
my
name
is
Sabrina
Lange
and
I'm.
A
senior
at
TCC,
Roberson,
high
school
I
live
at
19
Dristan
circle
in
Arden.
I
want
to
begin
by
expressing
how
strongly
I
feel
about
protecting
the
environment
and
how
it
comes
down
to
a
simple
idea.
Nothing
else
matters
if
we
don't
have
a
planet
to
live
on,
I
believe
there
should
be
a
reconsideration
to
pass
the
100%
renewable
energy
plan
over
ten
years.
H
I
would
just
like
to
reiterate
that
in
the
next
couple
of
years
we
could
already
be
50
percent
of
the
way
towards
our
goal
by
installing
a
solar
farm
in
the
place
of
the
old
landfill
and
by
switching
all
the
lights
and
bunkin
County
Schools
to
fluorescent
bulbs.
Imagine
if
this
is
50%
already
how
easy
it
will
be
to
get
the
rest
of
the
way
there.
H
This
plan
did
not
pass
the
previous
time
as
voted
on
because
of
a
concern
for
the
financial
burden
it
would
bring
on
future
generations
and
I
do
agree
that
there
is
a
burden,
but
we're
facing
it
right
now.
I
know
that,
as
of
January,
1st
2018
Duke
Energy
will
be
increasing
the
bills
of
North
Carolina
residents
by
17%.
This
hike
is
because
of
the
millions
of
dollars
needed
by
the
company
to
clean
up
the
coal
ash
at
the
power
plant
at
Lake
Julian.
H
They
need
this
money
to
transport
the
waste
from
Asheville
to
a
site
in
Georgia.
This
is
the
burden
that
will
fall
on
to
me
and
many
other
residents
in
the
area.
I
believe
that
there
would
be
no
burden
by
switching
to
renewable
energy
in
North.
Carolina
has
so
much
potential
for
it
to
do.
The
North
Carolina
coast
has
unlimited
potential
in
offshore
wind
energy.
H
Schools
have
enormous
flat
roofs
which
can
be
used
for
solar
panels,
and
buses
could
even
be
converted
to
electric
these
once
unimaginable
ideas
are
now
realistic
because
of
the
new
technologies
being
developed.
Renewable
energy
has
no
toxic
byproducts
like
burning
fossil
fuels.
Does
they
do
not
develop?
They
do
not
dump
heavy
metals
or
co2
into
the
atmosphere
which
pollute
the
air
and
water.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time
and
consideration.
Okay,
thank.
A
I
Hello,
my
name
is
Zachary
Hudspeth
I
live
in
South
Philly
at
8:00,
Elmwood,
Lane
and
I'm,
representing
TC
Roberson
High
School.
Today,
the
primary
goal
of
a
school
system
is
to
prepare
for
the
future
to
fully
prepare
for
the
future.
Renewable
energy
is
vital
on
behalf
of
the
environmental
group
at
TC
Roberson.
We
fully
support
the
10
year
renewable
energy
plan.
I
Solar
panels
have
proven
to
pay
back
the
initial
investment
within
four
to
twenty
years,
making
solar
a
cost-effective
solution,
school
systems,
second
largest
expense-
is
energy.
Second,
only
to
salaries
and
by
investing
in
clean
and
renewable
energy
money
will
be
saved,
allowing
for
increased
funding
to
other
aspects
of
school.
I
Additionally,
schools
have
large
open
roof
space,
which
is
perfect
for
solar
panels.
Tc
Roberson
alone
has
about
15,000
square
meters
of
roof
space,
although
not
all
of
the
roof
is
available
for
solar
panel
installation.
The
majority
is
the
flat
roofing
with
no
interruption
of
sunlight,
allows
for
maximum
exposure
to
the
Sun
and
TCC
Roberson
could
produce
up
to
30
million
kilowatt
hours
per
year
of
energy
just
using
solar.
I
Additionally,
energy
production
coincides
with
school
activity
as
the
lights
and
computers
are
running
during
the
day
when
students
are
present
but
are
not
having
to
store
a
lot
of
energy.
Solar
energy
will
be
more
cost-effective
and
can
easily
meet
the
needs
of
the
school.
Once
again,
I'd
like
to
reiterate
our
support
for
the
100%
clean,
renewable
energy
bill.
Thank
you.
J
Also
here
Renton
representing
youth
for
environmental
stewardship,
which,
as
you
can
see,
is
a
coalition
of
high
schoolers
and
college
students
from
around
the
Buncombe
County
area,
who
are
concerned
about
several
things,
including
our
energy
production,
because
this
is
something
as
people
have
stated
before
me
that
affects
all
of
us
and
we
need
to
you,
know,
put
Asheville
and
the
county
in
a
commission
in
a
position
right
now
where
we
have
the
capacity
to
produce
our
energy
in
the
future.
Because
you
know
the
effects
of
climate
change
are
only
going
to
get
worse.
J
Fossil
fuels
are
going
to
become
increasingly
stranded
assets,
and
it's
not
a
question
of.
Is
this:
the
right
move,
it's
a
question
of.
How
soon
can
we
act
and
how
do
we
act?
And
you
know
the
resolution
presented
a
few
weeks
ago
was
an
answer
to
that
question,
and
so,
as
a
member
of
youth
for
environmental
stewardship
or
yes,
I'm
asking
you
to
say
yes
to
the
resolution
and
say
yes
to
us,
as
you
know,
the
future
of
the
economy
and
this
county.
Thank
you.
K
K
I
really
want
to
think
about,
and
it's
our
job
as
people
who
are
paying
taxes
to
know
what
those
taxes
go
towards,
and
so
that's
one
way,
I
think
that
we
could
address
having
to
fund
a
project
like
this
is
to
help
people
understand
that.
That's
where
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
those
taxes
are
gonna
be
increased
and
then
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
was
that
as
Americans,
we
have
a
disproportionately
high
carbon
footprint
and
even
the
people
who
make
the
most
environmentally
friendly
decisions.
K
Just
by
being
Americans
and
being
a
part
of
a
society
that
has
government
services
is
still
at
the
lowest
two
times
more
impactful
in
their
carbon
footprint
than
the
average
for
the
rest
of
the
world.
And
so
the
decisions
that
we
make
at
a
county
level
are
really
important,
because
that
is
on
a
government
level.
What
is
a
big
part
of
our
individual
carbon
footprints
and
something
that
we
can't
necessarily
control
as
individuals?
And
so
that's
why?
I
really
hope
that
you
will
reconsider
that
resolution
and
really
prioritize
our
renewable.
A
A
L
A
M
I'm
Lisa
Baldwin
from
Fairview
chairman
Newman
and
commissioners
Buncombe
County
citizens
have
repeatedly
sounded
the
alarm.
We've
asked
for
better
budgetary
oversight.
We've
tried
to
help
you
by
researching
and
questioning
specific
expenditures
in
open
meetings
and
sending
emails
only
to
be
ignored.
Under
your
watch,
top
County
employees
received
questionable
raises
and
six-figure
bonuses.
The
citizens
who
elected
you
to
perform
due
diligence
and
oversight
have
been
ignored.
As
we
have
watched
you
give
away
millions
of
taxpayer
dollars
that
don't
support.
True
needs
case
in
point.
M
Citizens
asked
for
an
investigation
into
former
county
manager,
Wanda
greens,
right-hand
woman,
Mandy
stone,
miss
stone,
has
worn
two
hats
and
received
two
salaries
plus
a
six-figure
bonus
as
the
former
assistant
county
manager
and
director
of
the
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
citizens
expressed
concern
with
her
pet
project,
the
50
million
dollar
DHHS,
building
expansion
and
parking
garage.
Even
more
importantly,
we
have
expressed
concern
over
Mandy
stones,
Department
of
Social
Services
and
the
families
being
torn
apart.
The
mandate
to
reunify
families
has
fallen
by
the
wayside
as
the
temptation
to
accept
perverse
financial
incentives.
M
One
out
these
incentives
pay
four
to
six
thousand
dollars
for
removing
a
child
from
their
family.
In
addition,
the
incentives
to
adopt
these
children,
rather
than
reunite
them
with
their
families,
pays
as
much
as
eighty
five
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
the
adopted
family.
Just
one
year
ago,
a
child
in
Mandy
stones,
DSS
care,
Lila
Pickering,
was
murdered,
but
instead
of
investigating
these
concerns,
you
promoted
Mandy
stone
to
county
manager
on
October
10th.
M
Nearly
a
month
ago,
I
sent
a
public
records
request
to
miss
stone,
a
simple
request
for
the
ordinance
that
created
the
six-figure
bonuses.
However,
my
October
tenth
public
records
request
has
gone
unanswered
by
Mandy
stone
according
to
General
Statutes
stone
is
the
rightful
keeper
of
the
public
records,
but
she
referred
my
request
to
attorney
Michael
frou.
This
is
an
expensive
alternative,
as
an
attorney
I
would
imagine
he
makes
at
least
$200
per
hour
today.
Neither
miss
stone
or
attorney.
Frou
have
responded
to
my
requests
made
almost
one
month
ago.
M
This
could
be
a
violation
of
the
public
records
law,
Mandy
stone,
Wanda
greens,
right-hand
woman
promoted
to
county
manager.
Even
when
citizens
asked
you
to
launch
an
investigation
into
stones,
questionable,
DSS
practices,
I
ask
you
once
again
to
be
proactive,
not
reactive,
investigate
DSS
practices,
get
rid
of
the
old
guard
and
do
a
national
search,
a
legitimate
search
for
a
new
county
manager.
Tonight
you
are
forced
to
react
by
changing
the
rules
and
procedures
put
into
place
with
a
rubber
stamp
a
day,
late
and
more
than
a
dollar
short
tomorrow
you
have
a
choice.
N
Can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yeah,
my
name
is
Daniel
Breen
and
I
live
at
67
lys
Creek
Road
out
across
from
Irwin
High
School
I'm,
not
a
high
school
student,
as
you
probably
can
see,
but
I
do
appreciate
what
they
all
said
about
the
environment,
and
the
funny
thing
about
it
is.
Is
that
had
you
all,
every
one
of
you
been
a
little
bit
more
conscientious
about
watching
over
the
well,
we'll
just
call
them
crooks
since
they're,
under
federal
investigation
about
this
stuff.
N
That
happened
that
the
US
Attorney's
have
had
to
be
around
at
don't
give
them
the
records.
Don't
don't
give
Miss
Baldwin
the
records?
You
just
hide
them.
You
just
ignore
it.
Don't
do
that
the
FBI
doesn't
play
that
way.
They
will
come
in
with
federal
warrants
and
they
will
get
whatever
they
want.
So
you
all
can
play,
but
they
don't
kid
around
the.
But
more
to
the
point
is
this:
has
got
to
stop.
This
has
got
to
stop
it's
like
every
couple
of
years.
There's
some
new
scandal.
N
Few
years
ago
it
was
Bobby
Medford
shakin,
down
convenience
stores
which,
by
the
way
we
haven't
had
the
evidence
room
records
revealed.
Yet
are
you
going
to
do
that
or
does
the
fact
that
Ron
Moore,
who
isn't
the
you,
isn't
the
district
attorney
anymore?
Does
his
saying
hide
that?
Does
that
still
carry
weight,
because
that's
what
city
council
did
when
they
had
their
evidence
room
looked
at?
Oh,
don't
don't
show
it.
We
can't
have
that.
You
know
what
are
that?
What
is
everybody
afraid
of
about
that
stuff?
As
to
the
financial
irregularities?
N
N
They
had
to
finally
catch
him
with
tax
evasion.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
I
think
what
you
need
to
do,
because
apparently
everybody's
integrity
seems
to
be
compromised.
Is
you
need
to
get
an
independent
entity
to
audit
every
single
financial
transaction
that
she
has
been
a
part
of
since
she
was
county
manager
and
make
that
report
public?
When
it
becomes
available,
don't
cover
it
up
because
oh
the
governor
wants
it
hid
or
somebody
I,
don't
care
if
Jesus
comes
down
and
wants
it
hidden,
don't
show
it
to
everybody.
O
O
I've
always
asked
back
in
Tom
Sobel
days,
which,
if
you
look
on
the
pictures
out,
there
was
a
long
time
ago
that
the
county
checkbook
be
put
on
the
internet
as
an
Excel
spreadsheet
check
number
two
who
for
what
the
amount
and
the
line
item
of
the
budget
that
that
check
comes
out
of
that
way.
The
public
can
monitor
any
particular
area
of
interest.
They
have
and
I'm
going
to
bring
it
up
until
I
die,
or
it's
done
now
as
I
look
around
in
here,
I'm,
probably
one
of
the
oldest
in
here.
O
So
we're
going
to
have
a
little
humor
science
always
changes.
The
science
of
renewable
energy
is
changing
daily.
It
is
not
fixed
at
my
age
of
70.
I
can
remember
an
Al
you
may,
when
wax
on
milk
cartons
cause
cancer.
Remember
that
I
also
remember
when
cranberry
sauce
was
causing
cancer
and
I
can
also
remember
old,
run-down
beat-up
Volkswagens
running
around
with
bumper
stickers,
split
wood,
not
atoms,
and
if
everybody
in
Nashville
had
split
woods
would
be
worse
than
Maggie
Valley
in
the
wintertime
at
holiday.
O
How
many
of
you
been
in
Maggie
Valley
at
Christmastime,
when
everybody's
got
all
those
cabins
full
and
they're
all
burning
wood?
A
lot
of
people
don't
know
ash
will
had
the
first
air
pollution
control
system
in
the
country,
and
you
know
what
it
was
a
schedule
to
fire
up
the
stoker
furnaces,
because
if
they
were
all
fired
up
at
the
same
time,
you
couldn't
breathe
in
downtown
Asheville
and
Al
your
shaking
head.
O
You
remember
that
so
we
developed
a
schedule
for
when
to
fire
up
your
furnace
now,
I
want
to
know
how
this
board
can
pass
a
resolution.
That's
going
to
tell
everybody
in
Buncombe,
County
and
all
business
that
they
got
to
have
a
hundred
percent
renewable
energy.
When
you
don't
even
know
how
much
energy
the
county's
using
to
assume
that
you
can
do
that,
you
just
as
well
to
realize
what
you're
doing
you're,
not
using
science
you're
using
magic
and
emotion.
P
P
Of
course,
Asheville
is,
has
many
advantages,
we're
located
in
places
that
are
much
safer
from
sea
level
rise
and
hurricanes,
and
tornadoes
and
floods,
usually
speaking
than
say,
Florida,
but
nevertheless
it
is
real.
This
is
this
is
already
upon
us.
How
many
times
have
you
ever
seen
hurricanes
that
could
go
from
letter
H
through
letter?
What
was
it?
What
did
we
finally
end
up
with
a
letter?
S
or
so?
This
is
highly
unusual
and
we
need
to
do
what
we
can.
P
I
know
that
this
county
has
many
possibilities
for
how
we
can
become
renewable,
how
we
can
seriously
decrease
our
carbon
footprint
and
I
really
strongly
urge
you,
commissioners,
to
take
seriously
what
these
young
people
here
have
said
so
eloquently.
They
are
concerned
about
their
future.
They
know
what's
at
stake
and
it
is
up
to
us
to
really
take
those
steps
to
make
this
to
make
this
new
future
that
is
really
so
promising
in
terms
of
both
jobs,
the
economy
and
and
human
health.
It's
up
to
us
to
make
that
happen.
Thank
you
very
much.
All.
Q
Q
Be
more
than
happy
to
sit
down
with
Lisa
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
sit
down
at
this
gentleman,
but
we're
not
going
to
come
up
in
this
chamber
and
condemn
employees
and
say
that
they're
giving
this
away
when
most
of
you
don't
even
know
what
you're
talking
about
at
present
time
we
do
and
we're
sitting
up
here.
For
one
reason:
I
have
been
with
miss
frost,
she's,
another
Enda
stable
and
the
fact
is
they
was
many
giving
away.
But
six
figures:
that's
not
giveaways.
Q
You
know,
but
I
am
I'm,
sorry
that
miss
stone
or
anyone
and
our
staff
has
to
listen
to
something
like
this,
because
facts
are
facts.
I've
read
something.
Last
a
year
and
a
half
ago
this
was
put
out
in
a
Tribune
paper,
gymnast
ix
I.
Think
of
last
year
it
was
written.
I
was
seen
it
last
night
and
I,
don't
know
where
the
facts
are
it's
just
something
that
was
written.
Mr.
FRU,
you
know
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
if
a
chairman,
a
lady,
speak
to
the
issues
that
Miss
Ballwin
asked.
Q
But
the
fact
is
stepping
up
here
and
saying
stuff
like
that.
To
the
people
in
this
chamber
now,
I'm
here
I'm
a
commissioner
and
I'm
in
from
your
district
I,
don't
know
who
the
gentleman
is
but
I'm
from
his
district.
But
if
you'll
come
to
me
or
come
to
miss
froy's
from
our
district
we've
been
out,
we've
been,
we've
talked
to
the
TV,
we've
been
on
the
radio
talking
about
what
miss
green
did
and
what
she
did
was
wrong.
Q
People-
okay,
but
you
can't
take
everybody
and
you
can't
say,
somebody's
the
big
Betty
I
guess
with
all
big
Betty's
for
a
while,
because
we
all
listen
to
her
so
I
apologize
to
the
people,
it's
here
for
other
reasons,
but
as
a
commissioner,
you
have
to
defend
the
people
that
that
work
for
you
and
she
does
work
for
us.
Okay,.
A
S
Hi,
my
name
is
Lynn
moss
I'm
from
Weaverville
Pennsylvania
I
moved
here
three
years
ago
from
southwestern
Pennsylvania,
which
I
consider
myself
a
natural
gas
fracking
refugee
because
it
became
a
dangerous
area
to
live
so
I
applied
all
these
students
here
and
these
young
adults
and
our
future
generations,
but
coming
up
and
saying
they
want
a
safe
place
to
live
because
I
moved
here
to
be
in
a
safe
place.
There's
no
per
the
u.s.
S
gas
shale
play
Maps.
There
are
no
gas
shells
here,
so
there's
no
drilling
so
I
don't
have
to
worry
about
one
which
I
don't
have
to
worry.
That
I
have
my
that
I'm
only
outside
for
45
minutes
exposure.
I!
Don't
have
to
worry
that
my
windows
are
open
and
I.
Don't
have
to
worry
that
I
can
have
outside
vegetable
gardens,
which
is
what
my
restrictions
were
in
Pennsylvania
on
August
7th.
This
year
we
overshot
our
earth
resources.
We
are
now
into
2018
resources,
earth
resources
so
every
day
we're
using
another
day's
worth
of
resources.
S
One
gas
well
takes
1
million
to
10
million
gallons
of
fresh
water,
which
is
permanently
stalks
put
with
toxic
chemicals,
and
those
are
injected
into
deep
wells
which
causes
earthquakes
and
things,
but
the
biggest
concern
I
have
is
how
much
safe
water
will
be
there
for
the
future.
The
other
piece
here
that
I
am
concerned
about
is
using
our
timber
for
pellet
energy
in
Europe.
S
So
in
southeastern
us
we
are
tearing
down
our
forests
to
use
for
fuel,
so
100%
renewable,
actually,
which
I
would
like
to
see
reopened
up
and
voted
takes
away
a
lot
of
those
concerns,
one
for
family
and
friends,
still
in
the
fracking
zones
and
our
future
generations
and
our
future
ability
to
sustain
life.
Thank
you
all.
T
Mike
Morgan
15
years
since
I've,
been
here
I'd,
be
glad
I'm
not
on
the
board,
because
I
own
stores
and
if
you
attack
one
of
my
employees
like
Mandy,
was
attacked.
I
would
have
thrown
you
out
of
here
because
whoever
works
for
me
is
for
me.
You
hired
this
girl
and
I'm
just
glad
I'm,
not
the
chairman,
because
I
asked
her
to
have
been
removed.
U
Good
evening
my
name
is
Catherine
Horton,
dr.
Catherine,
Horton
I'm,
representing
community
roots,
a
local
nonprofit
and
the
statewide
North
Carolina
climate
solutions
coalition.
We
were
surprised
last
meeting
that
this
resolution
didn't
pass
the
25
of
us
or
so
who
were
here
to
speak
in
favor
of
it.
We're
surprised
that
there
was
not
more
support
for
it,
so
I'm
wondering
what
it
is
that
you'll
need
to
make
this
happen.
If
it's
a
matter
of
science,
we
got
plenty
of
science.
The
climate
solutions
Coalition
is
connected
with
dr.
Michael
Mann
dr.
U
mark
Jacobson,
some
of
the
top
climate
scientists
in
the
world.
We
can
get
them
down
here.
If
that's
what
you
need
to
hear?
I
sent
you
all
today,
an
email
with
a
few
resources
that
I
think
will
be
helpful,
one
of
which
is
the
clean
path.
North
Carolina
clean
past
2025
plan,
which
has
come
from
NC
Warren
another
one
of
our
nonprofits
they've
written
a
very
detailed
plan
on
how
North
Carolina
can
become
a
hundred
percent
renewable.
This
is
not
an
unknown.
U
How
we
applied
to
Asheville
in
two
Buncombe
County
yeah,
there's
some
work
to
do
and
how
to
figure
that
out,
but
there's
lots
of
resources
out
there.
I
also
sent
you
a
guide
for
governments
on
becoming
a
hundred
percent
renewable
there's
a
lot
more.
There's
I.
Send
you
a
piece
of
software
that
will
that
is
specifically
designed
for
governments
to
help
you
figure
out
how
much
energy
are
we
using
now
and
how
do
we
replace
that
with
renewable
energy?
U
So
if
it's
a
question
of
just
needing
more
resources,
please
let
us
know
there
are
lots
of
resources.
Here
we
have
a
coalition
of
about
15
nonprofits,
including
the
Sierra
Club
Mountain,
true
350,
indivisible
that
have
come
together
to
solve
this
problem.
We
have
lots
of
resources
to
help
you
if
it's
a
question
of
money,
which
I
heard
last
at
the
last
meeting
who's
going
to
pay.
For
this,
it's
a
very
valid
question.
Somebody's
we're
gonna
have
to
figure
out
where
that
money
comes
from,
but
that's
not
a
question.
U
U
Some
of
us
called
the
CFO
of
Palo
Palo
Alto
is
a
city
in
California
that
has
already
gone
a
hundred
percent
renewable
and
we
called
the
CFO
with
exactly
this
question
like
how
on
earth
did
you
guys
do
that
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
financial
statements
from
them
which
I'm
sure
we
can
share
with
you
and
in
talking
to
a
lot
o
Perez
on
the
phone
heat?
One
of
the
things
he
told
us
was
that
there
were
17
years
ahead
of
schedule
17
years.
U
When
does
that
ever
happen,
and
we
asked
him
how
on
earth
did
you
manage
to
do
that
and
his
answer
was
we
couldn't
afford
not
to
it
made
so
much
economic
sense
for
that
city
to
go
100%
renewable
that
they
they
just
went
for
it,
and
it
went
well
ahead
of
schedule
so
we're
here,
please
if
there's
more
information
or
anything
that
we
can
give
you
please
resources.
Thank
you.
Alright,.
V
Hi,
my
name
is
Susanna
Park
I'm,
also
a
member
of
Asheville
community
roots
and
I
love.
You
all
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
being
so
smart.
This
is
the
best
thing
that
I've
seen
happen
for
a
while
at
any
of
these
meetings,
and
it's
gonna
happen
more
this.
This,
this
generation
younger
folks,
we're
not
gonna
sit
by
and
let
business
as
usual
be
business
as
usual.
We
actually
employ
you.
V
The
system
is
set
up
to
make
us
feel
disempowered
and
feel
silenced
and
there's
a
lot
of
fabulous
leadership
here
in
these
rows
and
outside
thinking
in
lots
of
different
ways
and
you're
the
voice
for
us,
but
we
also
not
always
gonna
be
nice.
It's
not
always
gonna
be
comfortable
and
it
doesn't
mean
to
be
scary.
It's
just
making
any
change
is
uncomfortable
and
I.
V
Think
the
US
government,
specifically
we
create
these
systems
and
then
we
get
very
comfortable
in
them
and
we
want
to
not
make
waves
and
the
environmental
world
is
full
of
waves
these
days
and
trying
something
different
and
being
uncomfortable
is
normal
for
so
many
people,
and
so
what
do
we
get
to
do
together?
What
is
like,
what
is
Asheville
gonna?
V
Look
like
we
lead,
and
so
many
amazing,
interesting
and
creative
ways
already
and
like
what
else
could
we
figure
out
so
I
know
for
myself,
with
community
roots
with
young
people
in
this
town,
with
people
in
all
different
parts
of
the
mountains?
I
was
born
here,
I
love
it
here
and
there's
so
much
that
we
can
do
and
something
that
we
don't
know
how
to
do.
V
Isn't
any
reason
to
not
do
it,
because
there's
enough
as
cat
was
sharing,
there's
enough
resource
to
figure
anything
out,
we're
incredibly
complex
and
resourceful
hunks
of
flesh
and
bone
and
everything.
So
the
idea
of
saying:
let's
wait
until
it's
figured
out.
You
know
if
something
horrific
happens
to
your
family,
you
figure
it
out.
You
don't
sink!
Oh
well,
I'll
just
like!
Let
them
keep
bleeding
out
and
sit
here
and
try
to
figure
out
the
best
person
to
call
or
the
most
useful
way.
I
could
approach
solving
this.
V
This
like
catastrophic,
hurt
and
that's
where
we're
at
we're
at
a
catastrophic
hurt
on
our
environment.
And
what
do
we
want
to
try?
We
should
be
trying
as
many
different
things
as
possible
and
we're
here
to
do
it
with
you
creatively,
excitedly
noisily
and
we'll
keep
bringing
waves
and
waves
of
people
in
here.
To
beg
to
plead
to
you
know,
entice
to
just
join
us
see
what's
possible
because
Asheville
could
lead
the
way,
not
only
here
in
these
mountains,
but
across
our
beautiful
country
and
across
the
world.
Thank
You
y'all.
All.
A
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Jamie
project
I'm,
a
civilian
Buncombe,
County
resident
and
I
also
like
to
speak
about
the
100%
renewable
plan.
That
was
not
voted
in
recently
and
to
hear
that
the
reasoning
for
that
was
financial
is
just
like
disappointing
is
an
understatement
and
just
kind
of
a
nice
way
to
say
it.
This
is
just
so
important
and
it's
important
because
we
we
live
in
our
members
of
a
world
that
is
incredibly
beautiful
and
nourishing,
and
especially
in
this
unique
place
that
we
live
here
in
these
mountains.
W
It's
it's
overwhelming,
sometimes
being
outside,
with,
like
the
leaves
peeking
and
the
Sun
and
like
the
the
river
and
the
mountain,
it's
like.
How
could
we
ask
for
a
more
enriching
and
nourishing
place
to
call
our
home?
The
earth
provides
for
us
what
we
need
to
live
and
to
thrive,
and
we're
I
think
that
that
it's
pretty
clear
to
everybody
in
this
room
that
we're
doing
a
really
bad
job
of
taking
care
of
that
of
that
gift
that
we
have,
and
the
situation
now
is-
is
getting
pretty
dire.
W
So
we
have
to
do
something
we
have
to
do
something
immediately
and
we
have
to
act
really
boldly.
Washington
is
definitely
not
going
to
fix
this.
For
us,
Raleigh
is
not
going
to
save
us
from
this.
It's
the
responsibility
belongs
to
the
people
of
every
community.
It
belongs
to
us
and
to
you,
as
our
representatives
and
as
our
as
our
leaders,
we
need
for
you
to
stand
up
and
to
be
brave.
W
We
live
in
a
community
full
of
people
who
are
who
are
caring,
who
are
innovative,
who
are
creative,
who
are
ready
to
bring
their
resources
forward
to
figure
this
out
and
I
mean.
Don't
don't
tell
us
that
the
future
isn't?
It
is
a
financial
burden,
I
mean
that's,
that's
it's
disgusting
and
it's
wrong.
We
have
to.
We
have
to
come
together
as
the
as
the
dynamic
and
an
innovative
people
that
we
are
as
billions
as
an
Americans
and
as
world
citizens
to
solve
this
problem.
W
H
X
Hi
my
name's
Darlington,
gusto
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
new
AVL
and
I'm.
Also
a
student
at
the
University
of
North
Carolina
Asheville
I
want
to
speak
this
evening
in
support
of
a
hundred
cent
renewable
energy
for
the
future
of
Buncombe
County.
We
have
a
great
foundation
built
with
the
county's
current
energy
reduction
goals
that
will
be
useful
in
moving
forward
on
100
cent
renewable
energy.
It
is
imperative
that
this
important
goal
does
not
get
put
off
any
longer
and
that
we
began
the
process
towards
achieving
100
renewable
energy.
X
Y
Peace
and
blessings,
thank
you
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
all
tonight.
In
regards
to
the
vote
that
wasn't
made
last
week,
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
last
time
that
I
was
here
tonight,
I'm
not
gonna,
speak
as
The
Apprentice
for
the
Sierra
Club
I'm
gonna
speak
as
a
single
active
mom.
That's
been
living
in
Asheville
for
17
years.
I
have
a
son
who
is
in.
R
Y
College
with
Buncombe
County,
Schools
and
I
have
a
daughter
that
goes
to
Evergreen
Community
Charter
School
I
have
been
a
part
of
all
different
types
of
social
justice
movements
and
organizing
here
in
Asheville,
in
Buncombe
County
and
out
of
my
17
years
of
organizing
when
I
was
here.
The
last
time
I
had
never
experienced
such
emotions
and
also
disappointment
with
the
vote
that
had
happened.
Y
A
You
alright
anyone
else.
Yes,
sir,
who
else
who
else
hasn't
spoken?
Who's
gonna
speak
tonight,
all
right,
all
right!
You
three
well
you'll
start
with
you,
sir,
and
then
the
you're,
the
two
folks.
Next
to
you
and
anybody
else.
Mr.
rice,
you
can,
then
you
can
follow
if
you've
spoken
previously
no-one's,
gonna
speak
twice
during
public
comment.
AA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Ben
Stockdale
I'm
from
Western
North,
Carolina
I'm,
currently
a
student
at
UNC,
Asheville
and
I'm,
representing
a
brand
new
AVL
tonight
at
last
month's
Commission
meeting.
We
heard
from
several
of
you
that
you
needed
more
time
to
learn
about
100%,
renewable
and
initiative
and
about
what
it
would
mean
for
the
people
of
Buncombe
County.
Thank
you
for
giving
this
initiative
the
serious
and
careful
consideration
that
a
transition
like
this
requires
here
is
what
Buncombe
County
committing
to
renewable
energy
will
mean
for
the
citizens
that
have
elected
you.
AA
Renewable
energy
for
Buncombe
County
will
mean
new
good-paying
jobs
for
our
citizens
per
the
US
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
solar
installers
earn
a
median
wage
of
26
dollars
per
hour.
Renewable
energy
for
Buncombe
County
will
mean
decreased
rates
of
asthma,
pneumonia,
bronchitis,
upper
and
lower
respiratory
issues
and
lost
workdays
caused
by
the
particulate
matter
that
greenhouse
gas
emissions
caused
renewable
energy
from
Buncombe
County
will
mean
lower
rates
for
residential
and
commercial
ratepayers.
AA
The
cost
of
energy
for
residential
ratepayers
in
Buncombe
County
this
month
will
be
nine
point:
nine
cents
a
kilowatt
hour
on
average.
The
cost
of
solar
energy
is
eight
point,
eight
cents
a
kilowatt
hour
and
continues
to
decrease
as
technology
improves.
We
are
guaranteed
that
this
rate
will
decrease
and
right
now
it
is
already
currently
below
the
rate
of
traditional
fossil
fueled
energy.
That's
something
that
is
crucial
to
understand,
because
even
on
day
one,
if
we
have
some
of
these
projects
financed,
the
citizens
could
be
paying
a
lower
rate.
AA
Renewable
energy
is
pragmatic
for
Buncombe
County
for
economic,
public,
health
and
environmental
reasons.
Thank
you
and
I
look
forward
to
the
next
time
the
Renewable
Energy
Initiative
is
brought
before
this
body.
I
know
you'll
make
the
right
decision.
I
know
you
have
plenty
of
time
to
become
informed
about
it.
Thank
you
all.
AB
Hi,
my
name
is
Danielle
Holt
and
I
am
a
sophomore
at
UNC,
Asheville,
co-president
of
UNC
Asheville's,
Environmental,
Club
and
I'm.
Also
here
on
behalf
of
renew
a
VL
last
month,
this
commission
voted
against
the
proposed
100
percent
renewable
energy
resolution
with
promises
to
keep
it
in
mind
until
the
next
vote.
I'm
here
urging
you
to
follow
through
on
your
desire
to
learn
more
about
renewable
energy
for
Buncombe
County
I'm,
urging
you
to
listen
to
the
young
people
who
speak
for
the
future
generations.
AB
Several
of
you
are
concerned
with
the
cost
of
renewable
energy
for
Buncombe
County.
But
what
I
implore
you
to
also
consider
is
the
cost
of
no
action
on
renewable
energy.
The
cost
of
no
action
is
increased
rates
of
respiratory
diseases
lost
workdays.
The
cost
of
no
action
is
the
risk
of
another
coal
ash
bill
which
would
pollute
our
water.
AB
R
Hi
my
name's
Paul
Rubik
and
I'm
a
first
year
student,
I'm,
Ian,
C,
Asheville
I'm
here
today
with
Renu
AVL
I,
speak
on
behalf
of
not
only
myself
and
the
generation
of
young
voters
in
this.
In
saying
that
we
support
that
proposed
100%
renewable
initiative,
because
it's
a
requirement
for
the
maintenance
of
our
economy
and
our
planet
as
a
student
studying
environmental
science
and
the
citizen.
Who
knows
how
to
do
scientific
research,
I
can
tell
you,
there's
nothing
more
feasible
about
climate
science.
R
AC
AC
I've
been
here
so
many
years,
I'm
a
you
know,
they
called
me
the
courthouse
rat
me
and
Cathy
over
there.
You
know
we've
been
here
so
long,
I
want
to
say
something
to
use.
Commissioners
you're,
looking
at
a
man,
that's
had
a
commissioner,
a
chairman,
both
cuss
me
and
call
me
sob
in
public
and
cuss
me
like
a
sailor
and
the
reporter
of
ice
for
citizen
times,
standing
there
witnessing
it
and
never
done
a
thing
and
the
papers
got
the
article
in
it.
You
can
go
and
look
at
it.
Thank
You,
mr.
AC
chairman,
for
your
a
public
way
of
doing
public
comment.
This
is
what
I
want
to
show
you.
The
graph
that
you
got
is
the
public
here
you're
here
and
your
staff
is
here
you
do
what
you
need
to
do
for
your
staff,
but
remember
the
public
speaking
regardless
of
how
they
might
do
their
speaking
there,
the
public.
AC
There
are
right
ways
of
doing
this.
You
can
be
courteous
to
the
public
even
in
a
bad
situation.
So
take
this
as
a
lesson
tonight,
just
like
mr.
chairman.
He
yielded
to
the
one
that's
in
the
audience
and
he
should
have
I
got
throwed
out
of
a
meeting
for
saying
some
things
that
had
nothing
to
do
with
a
personal
attack.
AC
So
just
remember
that
as
a
commissioner,
you
can
do
it
in
a
nice
way.
You
don't
have
to
do
it
in
the
public,
even
though
I've
been
done
that
way.
I'm
pretty
old,
tattered
bird
I
can
take
it.
So
I
can
dish
it
out.
I
can
take
it.
So
I
love,
you
ins.
All
the
best
thing
to
do
is
figure
out
the
right
way
to
get
it
done
now.
AC
Transparency,
Thank
You
County
Manager
and
the
Commissioner
for
putting
the
financial
thing
on
to
the
county
manager.
This
is
the
first
time
the
county
manager
report
has
been
on
the
agenda,
for
we
can
actually
read
what
we
need
to
read
before
we
get
here.
So
thank
you.
The
thing
that
I
like
about
this
is
I
can
talk
about.
It
now
might
not
have
long,
because
you
know
these
other
things,
but
the
transparency
we
need
this
budget.
AC
If
you're
going
to
talk
about
the
budget
and
you're
gonna
use
the
ten
counties
in
the
state
of
North,
Carolina
I
won't
your
figures
of
those
counties,
the
population,
the
budget
and
all
the
figures
to
go
with
it.
We're
times
in
you
think,
oh
I'll
be
back
on
that
I
figured
the
first
year.
She
was
better.
Thank
you.
You.
AC
A
You
ppreciate
all
right
and
if
anyone's
curious,
the
County
Commission
Chairman
he's
referring
to
was
not
me,
not
sure
which
one
it
was,
but
I
don't
think
this
means
all
right
thanks.
Everyone
for
your
participating
and
public
comment,
we're
gonna
move
on
to.
We
need
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve.
AD
A
AE
A
AE
A
Z
AE
Z
Z
Z
AF
AF
It's
called
relinquishing
their
rights
to
these
parents,
and
these
foster
families
again
invite
these
biological
families
into
their
homes.
These
are
open
adoptions,
where
we
have
parents
who
still
have
communication
and
contact
with
their
children
and
are
invited
to
their
birthday
parties
and
to
holiday
gatherings.
So
I
just
think.
That's
something
important
that
the
public
needs
to
hear
as
well,
but
it's
not
just
licensed
foster
families,
people
off
the
street
that
we're
licensing
to
be
foster
families.
AF
AG
AF
A
AE
On
behalf
of
Buncombe
County
Commission,
it's
an
honor
to
recognize
the
amazing
work
that
you
do
in
our
community.
Rasheeda
McDaniels,
I'm
gonna
share
a
few
remarks
to
let
folks
know
about
the
work
you
do
and
then
we
also
have
a
video
okay.
So
tonight
me
Rasheeda
McDaniels,
who
works
here
at
the
county,
was
recently
recognized
at
an
event
sponsored
by
Co
Inc
on
October
21st
called
becoming
we
strengthening
our
roots.
AE
This
event
was
a
celebration
of
leaders
of
color
and
allies
that
are
doing
innovative
work
to
address
the
critical
challenges
facing
communities
of
color
in
Asheville
and
Western
North
Carolina
Rashida
was
celebrated
for
her
role
as
an
ally
for
black
and
brown
communities.
As
many
of
you
know,
we
are
fortunate
to
have
rashida
as
a
member
of
the
county's
Community
Engagement
Team.
In
this
role,
Rashida
has
been
responsible
for
oversight
of
our
community
navigators.
AE
This
program
grew
out
of
Rashida's
commitment
to
listen
and
learn
from
residents
of
our
community
housing
developments
from
this
input,
Rasheeda
built
the
pop-up
market
program
and
continues
to
support
positive
change
in
our
community
with
her
leadership
as
a
liaison
with
the
Issac
Coleman
investment
grants.
If
you
know
Rasheeda,
you
know
for
her.
This
work
is
also
personal
and
that
it
is
her
vision
to
live
into
a
community
where
every
single
member
of
our
community
has
the
ability
to
live
to
their
full
potential.
AE
As
Rasheeda
said
in
reference
to
community
work,
it
could
be
small
in
numbers,
but
you
will
make
an
impact
so
big
in
this
community
that
no
one
will
forget.
I
know
I
speak
for
all
of
us
in
expressing
such
deep
appreciation.
We
don't
just
hear
about
it.
We
see
you
in
action
and
we
know
the
incredible
difference
it
makes.
AE
Let
me
just
read
for
our
more
formal
statement
here
and
then
we'll
turn
to
the
video
and,
if
there's
anything
you
wish
to
say,
Buncombe
County
Commissioners
recognize
and
honor
Rasheeda
McDaniels
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
This
board
expresses
its
sincere
appreciation
for
your
exceptional
contributions
to
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
Your
love
for
the
community
is
reflected
in
your
work
and
your
volunteer
service.
We
commend
you
on
being
named
community
ally
for
your
selflessness
and
contribution
to
the
community.
You
are
a
true
example
of
our
motto:
people
to
match
our
mountains.
AE
AH
AH
AI
AI
Has
worked
for
Buncombe
County
for
thirteen
years
as
a
community
specialist
and
member
of
our
Community
Engagement
Team.
She
is
committed
to
working
side-by-side
with
community
members
to
improve
the
health,
safety
and
well-being
of
Buncombe
County
Thank
You
Rashida.
For
being
an
example
of
the
important
role
individuals
can
play
in
a
widespread
positive
community
change.
A
AJ
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners,
good
evening
this
is
the
first
time
under
the
new
revised
personnel
policy
that
we're
going
through
the
motions
of
required
notice
in
public
hearing
notice
of
this
changed.
The
personnel
ordinance
was
ran
in
the
newspaper
on
October
25th
well
within
time
to
have
this
public
hearing,
and
the
purpose
is
just
to
clarify
for
purposes
of
longevity.
AJ
What
length
of
service
an
annual
salary
mean
part
of
what
we've
been
doing
under
your
leadership
since
July
1
is
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
salary
is
not
just
your
base
salary.
It
also
includes
any
benefits.
You
have
now,
there's
been
a
number
of
changes
to
what
those
benefits
are.
The
number
of
haven't
been
are
gone
now,
and
any
bonus
would
be
limited
to
$1,000
and
brought
for
the
Commission,
but
also
as
part
of
that
salary
under
the
definition
by
statute
would
be
annual
leave
sales,
for
instance.
AJ
So
the
change
here
we're
asking
the
Commission
to
approve,
is
to
make
sure
that,
for
purposes
of
longevity
length
of
service,
your
time
with
the
county
and
annual
salary
is
only
your
base
salary.
Nothing
else
included.
Just
your
take-home
base
salary
based
on
your
position,
classification,
as
of
December
1st
of
any
year
when
longevity
is
paid.
AK
AK
All
I
wanted
to
say
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
again.
This
is
another
way
that
we're
trying
to
be
transparent
with
the
community
to
make
sure
that
there's
public
notice
that
the
public
is
clear
about
what
changes
are
made,
why
they're
made
and
that
they
have
an
opportunity
to
comment
on
them
so
again,
just
being
transparent.
That
this
is
about
ensuring
that
longevity
is
only
on
the
base
salary
and
on
nothing
else
and.
AG
A
AG
AD
A
AL
Chairman
and
commissioners
tonight
I
would
like
to
provide
you
a
financial
update.
My
presentation
is
a
broad
high-level
look
at
our
financial
condition
and
how
we
operate
from
a
fiscal
perspective.
Parts
of
it
will
also
be
used
to
inform
and
educate
our
staff
and
public
in
various
other
forms.
So
at
times
it
may
seem
a
little
basic
no
offense
to
you
is
intended.
It's
merely
our
attempt
at
reaching
a
broader
audience.
We
are
currently
finishing
up
our
audit.
AL
So
tonight
we're
going
to
look
at
three
areas:
Financial
Stability
financial
outlook
and
then
some
horizon
issues.
We
have
out
there.
So
this
first
section
financial
stability
would
be
the
part
that
I
sort
of
will
be
taking
on
the
road
and
I
apologize.
One
of
the
things
I
meant
to
do
tonight
was
have
a
list
of
have
some
cards
over
there,
where
you
could
ask
questions
that
we
would
get
to
later,
but
this
is
going
to
be
sort
of
a
broad
overview.
But
ultimately,
what
we'll
do
is
we'll
take
this
to
the
public.
AL
So
we'll
start
with
financial
stability
and
our
financial
cycle.
Each
year
a
new
budget
is
created
and
adopted.
Continuing
the
cycle
of
earnings,
earning
and
spending
the
financial
cycle.
Fused
fuels
everything
the
county
does
like
spending.
Seventy
five
point:
three
million
dollars
in
education
funding
for
things
like
textbooks
and
funding
teacher
supplemental
pay
to
spending
sixty
three
point:
seven
million
for
public
educators
like
fueling
our
patrol
cars
and
ambulances
to
our
biggest
investment,
paying
employees,
salaries
spending
to
the
tune
of
nearly
130
million
dollars.
Last
year.
AL
All
these
activities
rely
on
money
being
there
when
it
is
needed.
So
how
do
we
know
that
our
finances
are
held
to
start?
We
should
look
at
how
well
we
work
within
our
budget.
At
the
end
of
last
year,
spending
came
in
4.5%
under
budget,
so
that
was,
we
spent
two
hundred
ninety
nine
point:
five
million
dollars
of
a
three
hundred
thirteen
point:
six
million
dollar
budget.
AL
So
how
does
that
look
over
time
for
perspective?
Our
spending
has
come
in
an
average
of
three
point:
nine
percent
under
budget
for
the
past
ten
years.
This
is
an
indicator
of
financial
health
and
financial
discipline.
But
what
about
the
future?
How
do
we
know
we
have
enough
resources
moving
forward,
Buncombe
County
keeps
track
of
all
its
regular
earnings
and
spending
in
the
general
fund.
This
is
like
the
county's
checking
account.
Money
is
constantly
flowing
in
and
going
out.
AL
Last
year
revenues
came
in
over
three
hundred
point:
five
million
dollars.
At
the
same
time,
we
spent
two
hundred
ninety
nine
point:
five
million
dollars.
These
cash
flows
are
very
different
at
any
given
time.
For
example,
we
had
nine
thousand
deposits
last
year,
but
we
wrote
68,000
checks
so
just
like
trying
to
use
a
straw
to
drink
directly
from
a
spigot
having
a
reservoir
to
balance.
This
out
is
crucial.
AL
More
than
fifty
four
percent
of
our
revenues
are
received
in
just
three
months,
and
those
three
months
are
November,
December
and
January.
Any
idea
what
that
revenue
is
property
taxes,
that's
right.
So
last
year
we
received
one
hundred
and
sixty
million
dollars
in
that
period
of
time,
which
is
about
ninety
percent
of
our
total
tax
levy
compared
to
revenues,
spending
is
more
evenly
distributed
throughout
the
year.
AL
The
difference
between
the
two
creates
cashflow
gaps
that
must
be
balanced
out.
The
way
to
balance
that
out
is
by
using
fund
balance.
The
money
that
is
available
on
hand
and
represented
by
the
glass
is
what
we
consider
are
available
fun
balance
by
measuring
this.
We
can
see
if
our
checking
account
balance
is
too
low
or
even
too
high,
and
this
is
the
common
measure
used
by
the
state
and
others
to
gauge
financial
sufficiency,
so
available,
fund
balance
is
commonly
measured
as
a
percentage.
AL
This
lets
us
compare
year-over-year
and
also
with
other
counties.
The
ratio
is
simple:
it's
just
taken
available
fund
balance,
dividing
it
by
the
total
expenditures
which
will
give
us
our
percent
available
percentage
of
available
fund
balance.
The
state
requires
us
to
have
at
least
8
percent.
This
is
about
one
month
worth
of
operating
expense.
The
board's
policy
is
to
have
at
least
15
percent
available
fund
balance,
and
this
is
about
two
months
worth
of
operating
cost.
AL
AL
AL
In
total
we
have
56
million
dollars
in
available
fund
balance
and
while
56
million
dollars
may
seem
like
a
big
number,
we
have
already
allocated
some
of
that
amount
for
balancing
next
year's
budget.
Each
year,
Buncombe
County
uses
appropriated
fund
balance
to
balance
next
year's
budget,
always
with
the
plan
to
save
this
amount
instead
of
using
it
and
so
for
fiscal
year.
2018
this
year
we
appropriated
fifteen
point
four
million
dollars
to
budget
our
to
balance
our
budget.
So
how
does
this
measure
up
with
other
counties?
AL
Bunkum
available
fund
balance
is
lower
than
the
average
compared
to
the
ten
largest
NC
counties,
so
this
year
we're
at
eighteen
point
eight.
The
average
of
the
top
ten
counties
is
about
25
percent
statewide
you'll,
see
a
pretty
wide
spread
between
the
hundred
counties.
You'll
see
that
it's
the
lowest
is
nine
percent
all
the
way
up
to
sixty
five
percent.
AL
The
spread
is
much
smaller,
with
our
peer
group
that
being
counties
with
populations
over
two
hundred
thousand,
and
where
do
we
fit
our
status?
We
are
the
lowest
of
our
peer
group
actually,
and
so
these
numbers
are
2016
numbers
because
we've
just
finished
it
up
this
year,
but
we
are
the
lowest
17
percent.
Seventeen
point:
three:
eight
percent
the
highest
is
thirty-four
percent,
which
is
Mecklenburg
County.
We
are
in
good
company,
Wake
County
is
I,
think
17.7%.
So
just
right
above
us.
AL
So
we're
on
the
lower
end,
but
this
is
not
necessarily
a
bad
thing.
We
were
able
to
do
this
because
of
a
stable,
diverse
economy,
a
geographic
location
that
is
lower
risk
of
natural
disaster,
and
we
have
solid
financial
and
solid
financial
history
and,
from
my
perspective,
I
believe
that
we
have
the
right
balance.
AL
What
are
some
other
things
that
we
monitor?
So
the
budget
and
finance
teams
are
always
tracking
financial
indicators,
policy,
adherence
projections
and
every
dollar
we
spend,
and
so
we
have
many
financial
indicators
that
we
look
at
on
a
regular
basis
and
we
really
strive
to
adhere
to
our
policies
or
many
are
we
do
strive
to
adhere
to
all
of
our
policies:
investments,
debt
policies,
our
fund
balance
policies.
We
also
look
at
key
financial
indicators.
AL
AL
Another
good
indicator
of
financial
stability
is,
through
our
credit
rating
agencies
and
in
January
of
2017
Moody's
evaluated
and
upgraded
us,
giving
us
the
highest
credit
rating
possible,
and
that
now
gives
us
the
highest
credit
rating
triple-a
ratings
from
both
of
our
credit
agencies
and
I
will
add
that
of
the
652
North
Carolina
cities
and
counties.
There
are
only
17
of
those
governments
that
have
both
triple-a
ratings
from
both
of
those
agencies
which
puts
us
in
the
top
3%.
AL
Z
A
comment
I
think
it'd
be
good
when
you're,
showing
the,
where
we
rank
from
the
percentages
from
17%
to
34%,
there's
also
the
budgets
of
those
counties,
so
there's
some
sort
of
comparisons,
so
that
people
understand
absolutely
what
the
size
budget
of
those
counties
are,
because
you
know
it,
we
we
probably
are
winning
them
in
those
areas,
but
there's
probably
room
for
improvement
as
we
look
at
the
size
of
those
budgets
and
maybe
even
opportunities
to
to
adjust
our
our
thinking
on
the
fund
balance.
Sure.
AL
Absolutely
Thanks,
thank
you
so
looking
for
looking
at
next
year,
so
next
year
we
have
a
budget
of
about
three
hundred,
thirty
plus
million
dollars
and
if
you
just
look
at
expenditures
evenly
destroyed
evenly
distributed,
we've
spent
so
far
at
the
end
of
October,
one
hundred
and
five
hundred
six
million
dollars.
If
you
extrapolate
that
out-
and
you
look
at
averages
over
the
last
five
years,
roughly
we
project
that
this
year,
we
will
end
the
budget
year
with
expenditures
of
right
around
three
hundred
sixteen
million
dollars.
AL
I
will
say
this
is
really
q1
projections
almost
at
this
point,
this
early
in
the
ball
game,
we're
kind
of
spitballing
it,
but
based
upon
a
five-year
trend
of
how
we've
spent
things
in
the
past,
we
sort
of
feel
like
that.
We're
gonna,
we'll
land
somewhere
around
three
hundred
sixteen
million
dollars.
Revenues
are
a
little
bit
more
difficult
to
project
this
early
in
a
year
due,
mostly
because
property
tax
receipts
are
still
outstanding
and
the
variability
of
sales
tax,
but
again
a
budget
of
a
little
over
three
hundred
thirty
million
dollars.
AL
AL
Actually,
while
you
would
think
it
would
go
up,
actually
the
available
fund
balance
number
we
are
projecting
to
actually
go
down
to
between
17
and
18
percent,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
again
is
because
of
that
formula
where
you
have
to
divide
the
available
fund
balance
by
the
size
of
the
budget.
So
it's
that
denominator
that
is
affecting
that
calculation.
So,
even
though
we
may
project
an
increase,
the
available
fund
balance
percentage
as
projected
could
go
down
slightly
so.
AL
I've
always
had
the
goal
to
providing
quarterly
financial
information,
but
never
really
the
chance,
and
so
with
the
county
managers,
welcome
to
emphasis
on
more
open
and
available
information.
Tonight
I
would
like
to
commit
to
you
that
moving
forward,
we
will
be
providing
you
and
the
public
with
quarterly
financial
updates.
AL
It
is
my
belief
that
these
recurring
updates
will
provide
more
useful
information,
will
be
better
able
to
see
how
our
projections
improve
from
quarter
to
quarter
and
ultimately
be
providing
you
better
information,
because
it
is
our
belief
that
better
information
will
lead
to
better
decisions.
So
this
is
something
that
I've
discussed
with
the
budget
departments
discuss
with
the
county
manager,
something
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
that
we
will
be
preparing
preparing
quarterly
updates.
AL
These
will
be
updates
as
well,
that
we
will
plan
to
publish
on
the
website
and
finally,
some
of
the
horizon
issues
that
we're
looking
at
so
we're
constantly
looking
at
looking
what's
out
there,
what
threats
we
might
have
to
our
revenue
streams,
and
so
just
want
to
share
a
few
things
that
we
were
keeping
our
eye
on
one
issue.
Short-Term
issue
is
some
piece
at
funding,
which
is
our
public
safety
answering
point
currently
from
our
911
million
dollars
a
year
in
reimbursements
for
our
dispatch
operation
for
infrastructure.
AL
They
are
looking
at
redefining
the
way
we
look
at
a
dispatch
center,
and
so
there
are
potential
threats
of
cutting
reimbursement
by
up
to
two-thirds.
We're
not
at
this
point
overly
concerned
about
that.
But
it
is
something
on
a
horizon
that
we
we
are
wanting
to
take
a
look
at
and
just
make
sure
we're
monitoring
and
working
hard
to
take
care
of
that
classroom.
Size
mandates,
certainly
something
that
we
are
definitely
interested
in
education.
Spending
in
our
operating
fund
really
is
25
to
30
percent
of
our
budget.
AL
So
any
changes
the
state
may
make
in
in
regards
to
that
mandate
will
affect.
Could
affect
majorly
that
revenue
stream,
and
that
is
the
the
seventy
five
point-
three
million
dollars
that
we
spent
last
year
that
it
really
was
just
operating,
that's
not
to
say
the
effect
it
it
could
potentially
have
on
our
capital
funding
as
well
long
term
we're
looking
at
health
care
costs,
post
employment
benefits.
We
all
know
that
health
care
costs
continue
to
increase
and
I
will
say
that
last
year
we
actually
had
a
slight
decrease
in
the
claims.
AL
However,
we
are
self-insured
and
while
we
got
a
slight
decrease
last
year,
that
was
almost
an
anomaly.
We
are
anticipating
that
being
a
trend
and
considering
the
issues
we
have
right
now
continuing
to
go
on
with
our
Blue
Cross
Blue
Shield
a
mission
hospital.
We
are
certainly
keeping
an
eye
on
where
our
health
health
care
costs
will
be
going
also
long-term
federal
tax
reform.
Just
this
past
week
we
got
some
new
proposals
out
there.
AL
One
of
the
things
is
eliminating
advanced
refunding,
which
is
our
ability
to
refinance
some
of
that
debt,
and
so
we
actually
were
looking
at
some
potential
net
present
value
savings
of
about
10
million
dollars
on
some
refinery
fundings
if
that
law,
if
those
laws
pass
those
reforms
pass
and
that
option
is
no
longer
available,
and
so
when
I
say
10
million
dollars,
net
present
value,
that
is,
that
equates
to
about
two
or
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
savings.
So
also
a
part
of
our
plans
is
to
continue
to
promote
our
transparency.
AL
We
want
to
continue
developing
new
dashboards
and
informational
tools.
We
have
lots
of
ideas
and
lots
of
things
and
the
hopper
that
we're
trying
to
work
up
and
get
out
there
to
the
public.
We
are
we're
in
our
third
year
of
a
three-year
implementation
of
a
new
financial
software
system.
The
system
we
have
now
is
12
13,
14
15
years
old,
so
there
are
many
limitations
with
that
system.
We
are
looking
forward
to
the
new
financial
system.
AL
We
think
it's
going
to
allow
us
to
do
a
lot
of
other
things,
also
on
the
list
in
a
yield
to
mr.
Elton.
We
are
still
having
an
online
checkbook
in
the
works.
This
is
something
that
we
have
been
looking
at
for
some
time.
The
old
financial
software
system
did
the
old
financial
software
system
really
didn't.
Allow
us
to
do
it.
There
is
a
state
law
out
there
that
requires
us
to
do
this.
I
will
say,
though,
that
most
all
governments
across
the
state
are
having
troubles.
Implementing
this.
AL
There
are
some
redaction
and
sensitivity
issues
with
some
information.
That
is,
we
are
not
able
to
publish
and
just
the
way
some
of
those
systems
have
been
set
up.
It
is
just
hard
to
get
that
stuff
redacted
before
we
get
it
out
there,
and
so
even
the
state
of
North
Carolina
hasn't
hasn't
got
there
yet,
but
we
are
hopeful
that
within
the
next
year,
so
we
are
gonna
have
something
out
there
that
will
publish
all
of
our
checkbook
activity,
also
plans.
Our
plans
are
to
be
more
accessible.
We
want
to
better
communicate
with
our
departments.
AL
We
want
to
be
more
accessible.
One
on
one
availability
with
you,
the
commissioners,
you
know
I
work
for
you,
I
need
to
be
a
resource
for
you
me
and
my
staff.
We
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
engaging
with
you
to
hear
what
your
needs
and
your
concerns
are
to
make
sure
that
we
can
address
those
and
that
as
well,
providing
you
the
quarterly
financial
update
for
the
board
and
the
public
and
finally
or
as
well,
we
want
to
engage
in
new
ways.
AL
We
feel,
like
the
finance
department,
really
wants
to
take
a
more
active
role
in
many
of
the
programs
we
we
are
currently
working
with
that
the
county
is
currently
involved
with.
We
want
to
provide
more
support
for
economic
development.
We
want
to
advise
and
assist
with
capital
projects.
Finance
is
just
not
a
once
and
done
kind
of
thing.
It
is
something
that
we
should
be
involved
in
at
the
beginning,
during
and
at
the
end
of
a
project
process.
AL
So
so
we
we
really
plan
to
engage
more
in
those
activities
and
also
we
also
want
to
develop
better
ways
around
our
education
funding.
Again,
it's
such
a
huge
part
of
our
our
funding
and
sometimes
I
just
feel
like.
We
don't
give
it
the
the
attention
that
it
deserves
and
finally
I
want
to
just
share
some
additional
financial
resources
out
there,
where
you
can
continue
to
get
more
information.
Like
I
said
earlier,
our
annual
financial
report
will
be
out
probably
finalized
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
I
say
it's
going
to
be
published.
AL
Probably
within
the
month,
I
will
say
there
at
the
bottom,
the
public
record
site
public
records,
Buncombe,
County,
org
fin
report.
You
can
go
to
that
site
if
you
all
are
ever
interested.
We
have
every
audited
financial
statement
since
1922
listed
on
that
site,
with
the
exceptions
of
I,
believe
it's
1936
and
1965,
so
great
information,
great
reading
material.
If
there
is
anyone
out
there
who
might
have
happen
to
have
that
1936
or
1965
financial
statement
really
appreciate.
AL
If
you
would
pass
that
along
to
me,
I
would
also
promote
our
transparency
site
stuff
that
were
continue
to
put
things
out.
There.
We've
got
great
information
on
the
budget,
our
debts,
salaries,
the
org
charts
our
capital
projects.
So
welcome
you
to
visit
that
site
and
finally,
one
of
the
other
things
I
would
like
to
highlight
is
the
local
government.
AL
Commission
of
the
North
Carolina
state
treasurer's
department
has
a
fiscal
analysis
tool
that
is
really
useful
for
the
public
and
for
you,
the
board,
where
you
can
go
all
of
the
information
that
we
do
from
our
financial
statements
has
to
be
posted
at
online,
and
so
we
have
to
submit
information
in
a
standardized
format
to
the
state
they
take
all
of
that
information
and
they
have
a
giant
database
up
there
and
at
any
you
can
go
online
and
for
any
year
I
think
I
know
it's
been
around.
You
can
go
back
at
least
five
years.
AL
I
know
that,
but
you
can
compare
any
government
to
another
government
up
to
I
think
five
governments
at
a
time,
but
that
is
a
really
useful
tool.
So
I
really
would
encourage
you
to
go
to
and
use
that
so
a
resource
if
possible.
If
you
don't
know
how
to
use
it
and
you
need
to
sit
and
talk
through
how
it
works
I'm
more
than
happy
to
sit
with
any
constituent
or
any
board.
AE
Z
Just
got
a
quick
comment
of
the
the
other
day.
You
were
actually
able
to
see
information
that
was
provided
by
another
municipality.
Another
government-
and
you
know
we're
continuing
to
look
at
this
I
commend
you
for
what
you're
doing
the
transparency
site
said
that
that
County
is
doing
is
amazing
but
they're
looking
at
him
refining
them
every
day,
making
it
more.
You
know
more
friendly,
I
I'm,
a
pictures
guy,
you
know,
just
a
you
know
draws
my
draws
me
into
it.
R
AL
Z
Accessible,
but
you
know
what
the
entire
board
any
of
them
speaking
from
myself,
but
the
sport
is
asked
of
you
and
the
county
manager
and
others
to
to
provide
access
to
the
public
for
whatever
they
want.
You
know
from
a
budget
standpoint
and
from
these
others
right
and
you're
doing
that,
and
that's
amazing
that
I
can
I
commend
you
forward
and
I
know
you're
going
to
continue
to
to
bring
improvements
to
it
to
make
it
easier
for
everybody
to
use.
So
thank
you.
A
AM
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
board,
the
Buncombe
County
Agricultural
advisory
board
recommended
funding
transaction
costs
for
conservation
easement
on
the
Martin
farm
at
their
September
19th
meeting.
The
requested
funds
have
already
been
budgeted
for
an
easement
that
cannot
be
completed
and
we
are
simply
asking
to
transfer
funds
from
that
project
to
the
Martin
easement
project.
AM
AM
The
Martins
are
willing
to
donate
the
full
value
of
the
easement
estimated
at
three
hundred
ten
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
and
are
only
asking
that
the
county
pay
transaction
costs.
The
thirty-five
thousand
that
is
being
requested
for
those
cut
costs
has
been
allocated
for
transaction
costs
to
complete
an
easement
on
the
Tony
Lewis
farm.
Mr.
Lewis
passed
away
and
his
family
is
no
longer
interested
in
moving
forward
with
the
easement.
We
were
asking
for
approval
to
transfer
the
thirty-five
thousand
from
the
Lewis
easement
to
the
Martin.
AM
That's
the
value
estimated
value
of
the
easement
itself
and
they
want
to
donate
the
full
value.
So
the
way
the
value
of
an
easement
is
determined
is
there
are
two
appraisals.
One
appraisal
is
at
the
present
use
of
value
farmland.
The
second
is
the
value
market
value
if
it
were
a
developable
land
and
the
difference
between
those
two
appraisals
is
the
easement
value.
So.
Q
Q
Z
A
O
This
is
one
of
the
ones
that
I
wanted
to
make.
A
comment
on
and
I
want
to
stretch
your
brain
just
a
little
bit
by
the
way.
Take
as
long
as
you
need
just
don't.
Do
it
get
it
done
before
I
pass
away.
Okay,
don't
take
30
years
to
get
there
because
I've
been
watching
the
County
Commission
meeting
I
just
sit
there
and
figured
up
31
years
started
in
the
old
county
courthouse,
but
I
want
you
to
think
about
something.
O
I've
watched
millions
of
dollars
be
set
aside
for
conservation,
easements
I
happen
to
have
12
acres
of
land
vacant
land
and
Jupiter
is
extremely
extremely
highly
valued
and
I.
Don't
have
34
acres
or
a
hundred
acres
I
have
maybe
nine
acres
that
I
could
put
in
a
land
preservation
and
Bradley.
Maybe
we
need
to
think
of
a
new
category
land
preservation,
because
that
land
doesn't
demand
any
police
protection.
It
doesn't
demand
any
cars
on
the
road.
It
doesn't
send
any
kids
to
school,
so
my
taxes
should
be
almost
nominal
on
that
vacant
land.
O
Easements
number
two:
you
open
up
a
venue
for
a
man
to
do
four:
five,
six
acres,
ten
six
acre
plots
is
what
60
acres
you
want
to
keep
the
quality
of
life
in
Buncombe
good.
You
want
to
produce
a
good
environment
where
there's
oxygen
in
the
air
and
green
stuff
producing
oxygen
folks
stretch
your
brain
a
little
bit.
That's
a
way
to
do
it
and
pass
the
cost
own
to
the
people
who
want
to
come
to
the
beautiful
area
that
us
locals
the
dying
breed
created.
AC
AC
Now
chemtronics
I
want
to
give
you
the
heads
up,
I've
been
on
that
sport
for
two
or
three,
but
over
three
years
now
believe
the
chemtronics
side
he's
fixing
to
come
to
you
for
500,
acre
to
go
into
Conservancy,
okay,
500
out
of
a
thousand
acres,
so
I
want
you
to
think
about
this
35,000
on
44
acres.
Well,
this
is
1.3
million
dollars
at
chemtronics
has
been
taxable
at
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twenty-five
dollars
a
year.
AC
That's
a
lot
of
money!
That's
gonna
come
out
of
this
county
for
somebody,
okay
and
they're,
not
even
gonna.
Let
you
walk
across
that
property.
You
got
it!
It
ain't
gonna
be
used
for
the
public
either
you
got
it.
If
you
don't
you're
gonna
get
it
because
I'm
telling
you
the
truth,
like
I,
don't
video!
AC
If
you
don't
believe
me
now,
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
$24.95,
that's
a
lot
of
money!
All
for
this
piece
of
property
out
there.
So
you've
got
to
pay
attention
to
what
Don
is
talking
about.
There's
a
way
of
doing
this.
To
save
some
money
you
might
have
to
get
to
legislators,
you
might
have
to
get
to
somebody
else
to
help
you,
but
there's
a
way
of
doing
this,
to
save
all
this
stuff
that
we're
going
through
right
now
and
I
think
Donna's
own
to
a
good
thing
here.
Thank
you.
A
J
A
A
AJ
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners,
just
briefly,
the
idea
proposed
by
a
few
commissioners
was
to
amend
the
rules
and
procedures
of
this
board
to
require
that
any
three
members
of
the
board
may
add
an
agenda
item
rather
than
the
Chairman
or
any
three
members,
and
that's
the
substance
of
it.
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir.
Z
As
far
as
discussion
of
this
current
board,
which
has
been
more
open
than
the
previous
board,
that
I
was
on
I.
Think
everybody
here
will
probably
agree
with
that,
and
that
there
was
concern
that
the
county
manager
and
chairman
were
allowed
to
put
items
on
on
the
agenda,
and
the
Chairman
could
do
that
by
his
or
her
self
and
that
that
created
created
a
a
conflict
between
the
relationship
between
the
Chairman
and
the
and
the
county
manager.
By
making
the
end.
Z
Remember
that
when
there
was
five
commissioners
to
commit
any
two
commissioners
could
put
something
on
the
agenda
and
when
the
legislature
changed
it
to
a
seven
member
board,
with
three
districts
to
per
district
plus
a
chair
that
went
to
three
in
the
rules
so
that
that
is
not
being
changed.
All
that
is
being
done
is
that
the
Chairman
would
not
have
the
authority
to
put
something
by
his
or
her
self
on
the
agenda,
and
there
are.
There
are
advantages
and
disadvantages
to
that.
Z
I
think
if
you're
sitting
in
the
chair,
chair
person,
seat
I,
think
there
are
more
advantages
to
not
being
being
able
to
do
that,
because
it
does
not
put
you
in
a
position
to
where
individuals
or
groups
could
put
undue
pressure
on
you
till
it
returns.
The
the
pressure
is
not
the
right
word,
but
the
responsibility
to
three
commissioners
to
bring
the
conversation
forward
would
not
limit
conversation,
because
anyone
at
any
time
can
during
the
discussion,
can
can
speak
to
matters
and
you've.
Z
Seen
that
some
of
that
you
know
tonight
so
and
I
think
that
there
might
be
more
more
discussion
on
my
part
but
I
doubt
it.
But
that's
that's
the
intent.
It
was
brought
forward.
Three
commissioners
and
I
think
two
commissioners
to
mine,
to
my
left,
mr.
frost
and
mr.
Whiteside,
for
allowing
this
to
go
on
the
agenda
good
night.
A
T
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
all
those
who
have
fought
and
died
for
this
great
country
of
ours,
for
they
have
protected
and
given
us
all
the
right
and
secured
our
freedom
of
speech,
if
I
may,
how
many
commissioners
have
attended
Commissioner
school
just
raise
your
hand.
That's
great
I
would
hope
that
your
legal
team
would
keep
you
abreast
of
the
legal
parameters
of
this
board.
The
chairman,
along
with
the
county
commissioner,
sets
this
agenda.
Then,
of
course,
the
agenda
can
be
approved
or
rejected
by
this
board.
T
The
Chairman.
Who's
elected
by
the
entire
county
represents
the
entire
county.
Your
commissioners
are
elected.
Now,
as
we
fought
for
for
many
years
by
districts,
you
represent
the
concerns
and
the
needs
of
the
people
of
your
district.
Each
district
concerns
and
needs
may
differ
from
other
districts.
So
here's
what
I
believe
and
I
hope
you
can
agree
with
me.
Get
the
politics
out
of
this
I
sure
don't
agree
with
brownie.
All
the
time.
I
believe
that
any
one
Commissioner
any
one,
because
that's
the
way
it
was
done
a
long
time
ago.
T
O
O
The
previously
county
manager
was
meeting
with
three
in
one
party
and
three
and
another
party
I
think
requiring
three
commissioners
to
agree,
smacks
of
politics
and
I'm,
going
to
tell
you
folks,
I've
been
both
a
Democrat
and
Republican
parties.
Ain't
gonna
solve
the
problem
and
I
think
that
it
should
be
two
commissioners,
any
two
commissioners
that
wants
to
put
an
item
on
the
agenda.
It
goes
on
the
agenda,
there's
not
three
of
you
back
there
in
the
back
saying
you
want
this
on
the
agenda.
O
If
two
of
you
wanted
it
on
the
agenda
and
Braddy
that
includes
you,
all
you
got
to
do
is
convince
one
same
thing
with
the
others
that
it's
put
on
the
agenda,
and
it's
debated
right
out
here
in
front
of
we.
The
people
there's
been
too
much
going
on
back
there,
where
these
three
get
together
and
these
three
get
together.
That
has
got
to
stop
and
brownie.
As
long
as
you
let
the
public
comment
on
everything
this
voted
on.
O
That
needs
to
be
added
into
your
procedures
and
I
want
to
make
a
suggestion
to
you,
because
that
means
the
people
that
want
to
comment
on.
What's
on
the
agenda,
they've
got
to
look
at
the
agenda
right
and
they
know
what
they're
talking
about
when
they
get
here
right
and
they
know
what
they're
gonna
say
when
they
get
here
and
you
make
all
public
comment,
wait
to
the
last
that
they
have
to
sit
here
and
see
what
you
go
through
to
make
their
comment
because
they
don't
know
when
it's
going
to
be
made.
O
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
seeing
this
whole
room
filled
and
the
minute
they
run
their
mouths
out
the
door
they
go
now.
I've
got
to
leave
tonight
for
couple
of
reasons:
I'm,
deaf
and
I
haven't
heard
high
force
been
said
tonight,
because
I
got
a
plugged
up
head
and
I
got
to
take
my
comb
so
I'm
not
leaving
cause
I'm
mad
at
you,
I
enjoy
coming
and
brownie.
You
know,
I've
told
you
keep
letting
the
public
speak
on
everything.
Just
voted
on
and
change
that
in
your
agenda.
O
N
My
name
is
Daniel
brain
again
and
I'm
inclined
to
basically
agree
with
what
these
two
guys
just
said,
which
is
you
know?
If
you
are
you
you
just
one
of
you
at
the
most
two
wants
to
bring
something
up,
bring
something
up
because
they
seem
to
remember.
When
was
this
oh
yeah,
it
was
the
last
meeting
when
you
brought
up
the
idea
of
cutting
everybody's
salary
and
somebody
we
won't
mention
who
that
is
said.
Oh
no
I
can't
have
that
done
I.
It
would
be
too
much
of
a
hardship
than
quit.
N
If
it's
too
much
of
a
hardship
quit.
You
know
how
much
I
made
the
most
money
I've
ever
made.
My
life
was
when
I
was
teaching
English
in
South,
Korea
and
I
made
about
20
grand
making.
What
any
of
you
makes
would
be
a
huge
amount
of
money
for
me,
so
I
don't
want
to
hear
a
sob
story
about
poverty,
and
also
this
is
a
little
sort
of
on
this.
But
somebody
also
said:
oh
I
don't
want
to
play
the
blame
game.
N
I,
do
I
think
that
there
is
accountability
that
needs
to
be
had
now,
who
that
is
let
the
chips
fall
where
they
may,
you
know,
and
it
wasn't
personal
it
wasn't
something.
I
did
just
now
earlier
to
insult
anybody.
I'm
not
under
federal
investigation,
I
haven't
taken
money,
I
haven't
mismanaged
your
funds.
That
was
somebody
else,
and
you
all
need
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
that
and
I
think
at
the
least.
N
If
you
want
to
bring
up
or
any
of
you
want
to
bring
up
an
item
on
the
agenda,
hey
knock
yourself
out:
let's
do
it,
let's
have
at
it
when
Jean
Rainey
was
the
chairman.
That's
what
happened.
I
mean
even
though
jeans
good
friend
of
mine.
You
know
he
and
I
disagreed
about
things
occasionally,
but
it
worked.
It
was
effective,
so
anyway,
I'm
running
a
little
long
here,
so
I'll.
N
M
Think
it's
you
meant
unanimous.
The
public
agrees
that
it
everyone
should
be
allowed
to
put
something
on
the
agenda
that
wants
to,
because
what
you
put
on
the
agenda
is
based
on
input.
You
get
from
the
citizens
from
the
public
and
you're,
putting
a
muzzle
on
us
by
limiting
the
number
of
board
members
to
three
that
can
agree
on
an
agenda
item,
so
I
I
concur
with
the
rest
of
the
public
that
has
spoken
tonight
that
we
do
need
to
change.
M
That,
and
I
would
also
like
to
ask
you
to
add
the
general
statute,
the
North
Carolina
state
law
that
establishes
what
your
job
is
to
your
policies
and
procedures.
It's
not
unusual
to
have
general
statutes
in
that
policy
manual,
because
you're,
an
oversight
board
and
just
like
mr.
rice,
said
earlier.
The
top
of
that
organization
chart
is
the
citizens
and
then
comes
the
Commission
underneath
it
then
the
County
Commission,
then
the
county
manager,
whom
you
direct
through
your
policies
and
procedures
as
next
on
that
rung.
M
AC
I've
got
plenty
of
videos
to
show
just
how
much
time
was
spent
in
the
back
room
for
years
when
it
should
have
been
out
here,
I
would
go
a
little
farther
and
say
I
want
to
thank
y'all
for
the
transparency.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
what
you're
already
doing,
because
you
ins
have
done
a
lot
of
good
things.
This
is
another
piece
and
you'll
get
through
it,
but
we
just
need
a
way
to
talk
and
I.
Think
Don
has
a
good
idea.
AC
I
really
do
having
public
comment
last,
because
a
lot
of
people
would
leave
before
they
got
to
the
end
of
these
sessions.
Many
mistakes
for
but
I'm,
pretty
tough
I
want
to
save
my
piece
sometimes
and
I'll
wait
for
hours.
If
you
want
to
wait
on
me
because
I'm
on
video
it
so
everybody
else
can
hear,
people
does
need
to
hear
this
and
I
know
it's
boring,
sometimes
for
y'all,
but
still
as
a
servant,
you
know
I'm
a
servant.
AE
Is
there
anything
that
we
should
be
aware
of
in
the
general
statutes
that
might
impact
the
number
of
Commissioners
would
be
required
to
add
an
agenda
item.
I
know
we
have
based
on
the
cited
statute.
I
know
we
have
the
ability
to
adopt
our
own
rules
and
procedures,
but
I.
Just
wonder
if
there's
anything
else,
you
would
flag
no.
AJ
Not
at
all
I
mean
that's
the
limit
of
it.
I
mean
it's
based
on
Robert's
Rules,
that's
just
loosely
based,
but
the
Commission
any
board
can
make
rules
to
fit
it
really.
The
whole
Robert's
Rules
wouldn't
be
too
cumbersome
for
a
small
body
like
this,
but
the
rule
is
simply
that
the
board
can
make
such
rules
as
it
deems
in
its
best
interest
to
govern.
Q
We,
the
people
in
here
I've,
been
here
going
on
five
years
and
it's
it
has
taken
three
commissioners
since
there's
been
seven
commissioners
to
be
able
to
put
something
on
the
agenda,
and
we
have
worked
that
the
best
we
could
I
put
stuff
on
other
people's
put
stuff
and
Joe
was
right
with
this
for
presentation.
If
one
person
can
just
do
it
by
itself
for
seven
of
us
now-
and
you
know,
we
do
have
districts
and
we
do
want
to
listen
to
the
people,
but
I
don't
mind
being
three
of
us
doing
it.
Q
For
the
people
in
my
district
I'll
go
find
two
more.
If
it's
the
idea,
it's
good
to
be
able
to
do
it
with
that's,
why
it
doesn't
the
three
that
keeps
things
in
perspective
in
I'm,
sorry,
three
or
one
or
net.
But
it's
been
balanced
to
a
point
with
three,
because
it
was
that's
three
of
us.
You
know
I
can
be
beat
after
what
I
said,
but
I'm
still
going
to
fend.
Q
AN
AG
Like
to
say
to
me,
it
doesn't
have
anything
to
do
with
individuals
now
past
to
me.
It
talks
about
the
future
and
what
we've,
what
we've
been
through
and
we've
seen
to
touch
on
lightly,
what
happens
with
unilateral
decisions?
I
think
this
gives
us
protection
and
greater
transparency
going
forward
and.
AC
Q
Is
now
we're
a
Republican
has
to
be
in
the
room
with
the
Democrats
and
the
Democrat
has
to
be
in
a
room
with
the
Republicans.
So
it's
not
like
the
county
managers
talking
to
the
Democrats
and
then
coming
and
talking
to
the
Republicans.
That's
that's
that
deal
is
gone.
I
mean
you
know.
The
transparency
is
working
in
that
area
too,
so
I'm,
sorry
that
I
had
to
jump
back
in,
but
I
had
to
bring
that
forward.
AD
AD
AD
AG
Wanted
to
add
to
what
Al
said
you
know
we
do
come
from
all
different
backgrounds.
We
look
at
things,
you
know
differently
and
that's
a
good
thing,
but
a
hundred
percent.
This
board
cares
about
people
whether
they
live
in
San,
Dimas,
barnard,
Furler,
Pisgah
view
and
every
single
one
of
us.
So
people
can
say
districts,
but
we
don't
look
at
it.
It's
just
representing
one
group
of
people.