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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (April 10, 2018)
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This is the regular meeting of the Board of Commissioners for April 10, 2018.
A
A
Since
our
most
recent
County
Commission
meeting
Richard
sales,
our
longtime
fire
chief
for
the
reynolds
district
and
Johnny
Wilson
rheems
Creek
assistant,
chief
and
EMS
911
supervisor
have
passed
away.
I
wanted
to
take
a
moment
on
behalf
of
the
County
Commissioners,
to
express
our
condolences
to
their
families
and
to
let
them
know
that
they
will
be
in
our
prayers,
Richard
sales
and
Johnny
Wilson
were
men
of
integrity
and
compassion
who
dedicated
their
lives
to
public
service
and
protecting
life.
We
will
miss
them
and
are
grateful
for
their
service
and
commitment
to
our
community.
A
The
Christian
scriptures
say
that
nothing
can
separate
us
from
God's
love.
So
let
us
take
a
moment
of
silence
for
prayer
and
reflection
for
the
lives
of
Richard
sales
and
Johnny
Wilson
and
for
their
family
and
friends,
as
well
as
fellow
firefighters,
as
they
mourn
the
loss
of
these
beloved
men
and
celebrate
their
lives.
So
please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
Thank
you
before
we
begin
our
meeting
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
to
please
silence
your
cell
phones
or
place
them
on
mute,
and
let
me
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also.
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board?
Today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
items
that
the
board
votes
on
this
evening.
A
One
item
I
neglected
to
mention
when
I
was
reviewing
the
agenda
is
that
we
will
have
in
addition
to
the
items
I
mentioned.
We
will
have
public
comment
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
we
will
also
have
public
comment
on
any
matters
that
we
vote
on
this
evening
as
well.
At
the
time
we
vote
on
them
all
right,
so
we
need
to.
We
need
to
add.
Do
we
need
to
add
the
presentation
from
the
sheriff
under
the
county?
A
B
C
Cheering
commissioners,
when
you
revised
your
economic
development
policy,
you
took
some
very
decisive
action,
one
you
said
appropriately
under
North,
Carolina
General
statute,
that
any
investment
and
it
development
would
come
back
for
the
board.
Second
thing
that
it
takes
for
mold
board
action.
The
second
thing
you
did
was
right
size
that
budget,
so
the
budget
was
reduced
to
reflect
only
those
commitments
you'd
already
made
to
economic
development.
Any
new
action
would
would
require
you
all
to
allocate
additional
funds
the
same
time.
C
You
you
make
commitments
to
a
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
revolving
loan
for
small
and
minority
businesses
and
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
to
support
workforce
development
in
early
childhood
education.
The
action
tonight
is
to
make
those
revolving
multi-year
funds.
So
if
they're
not
all
expended
in
a
year,
you're
simply
refurbishing
the
pool
back
to
two
hundred
thousand
versus
a
new
allocation
every
year.
Okay,.
A
D
A
E
Good
evening,
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
this
one's
a
little
bit
different
from
hearings
we've
had
in
the
past
regarding
bond
issuances,
I,
think
only
one
similar
this
in
last
10
or
15
years.
In
this
particular
situation,
we
have
I,
see
imagine
charter
school
here
locally,
which
is
planning
to
acquire
property
out
in
the
county
and
they're,
using
the
financing
mechanism
to
have
bonds
and
pay
back
those
bonds,
and
it's
sort
of
strange
because
they're,
using
the
Wisconsin
public
authority
and
Wisconsin
general
statutes
and
also
the
Internal
Revenue
Code.
E
The
Internal
Revenue
Code
requires
that
the
local
governing
body
of
which
the
project
is
going
to
occur,
approve
the
project.
So
I
see
imagine
charter
school
representatives
with
two
of
which
are
here,
Mia,
Strauss
and
Gentile.
If
you
have
any
questions
specific
to
the
project
or
requesting
that
the
board
approve
the
project,
the
important
things
for
this
board
and
for
the
community
to
understand
is
that
no
faith
and
credit
of
tax
dollars
are
being
obligated
to
pay
for
these
bonds
and
you're,
not
at
all.
E
That
board
is
not
at
all,
assuring
that
it's
a
valid
project
or
a
good
use
of
money.
At
all,
it's
a
limited
obligation
bonds,
which
means
that
it's
just
basically
going
to
be
a
mortgage.
I
see,
imagine
is
borrowing
the
money,
then
they're
leasing
it
back
to
the
school
entity
and
they're.
Just
asking
to
the
this
board,
approve
the
sale
of
the
bonds
through
the
Wisconsin
statute
and
authorize
it.
F
I'm
gen
Townley
I'm,
the
head
of
school,
the
school
will
be
located
on
the
corner
of
Macintosh
and
Pond
Road
in
Buncombe
County.
We
are
a
k-12
charter.
School
we've
been
open
for
four
years.
We
currently
serve
about
850
students
and
when
we're
in
our
building
will
serve
1,300
students
in
our
community.
We
are
a
public
school,
so
we're
funded
publicly
because
we're
charter
school,
we're
nonprofit,
okay,.
B
F
A
All
right,
I,
don't
hear
any
other
questions
right,
Nelson.
Why
don't
we
open
the
public
hearing
and
to
just
y'all
can
sit
down,
but
if
there's
any
questions
stick
around
in
case
anybody
has
any
other
questions.
Okay,
all
right,
so
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
on
this
item.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
at
5:13?
G
G
My
concern
is
a
little
different
than
just
approving
this
thing,
because
that's
the
first
time
that
I
recall
this
ever
coming
for
a
commission
on
charter
school
on
approval
of
the
debt
like
this
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
know
the
general
statues
and
the
numbers
it
goes
with
it.
This
is
no
small
amount
of
money.
So
when
we're
talking
about
the
regular
school
system
being
bricks
and
mortar
here
we're
going
back
to
something
else
here:
twenty-seven
twenty-eight
million
dollars.
G
That's
a
lot
of
money,
so
I'm
concerned
about
a
bigger
picture,
not
just
today
and
not
just
about
this
particular
school.
But
this
is
a
could
be
a
snowball
going
down
the
road
if
we
start
looking
into
these
projects
like
this
on
the
Charter
School,
it's
an
extension
of
the
public
school,
so
I'd
like
to
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
trend,
that's
going
to
be
started
today,
because
I've
never
seen
it
before
a
board
before
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
implication
of
this
going
forward.
G
What
the
prospects
are,
because
serving
kids
we've
been
talking
about
the
smaller
class
sizes
and
all
kinds
of
things
like
that
and
I'm,
not
questioning
how
they're
running
the
school
I'm
questioning.
Where
is
this
going
to
take
us
as
a
County
on
the
financing
of
these
things
on
down
the
road?
Is
this
something
to
get
us
in
the
gate
and
then
obligate
the
county
to
resources
down
the
road?
Thank
you
right.
Thank.
A
D
E
I
think
I
said
I
remember
one
before
and
it
was
the
same
Wisconsin
Authority
in
the
Wisconsin
Statutes
that
might
have
been
warned
for
one
of
the
volunteer
fire
departments.
I
think
the
great
approval
and
I
think
they
ended
up
borrowing
money
in
a
different
fashion.
This
is
just
a
different
way
of
borrowing
money.
It's
just
a
less
interest,
better
write-offs
IRS
reasons
taking
advantage
of
IRS
rules
and
regulations,
there's
nothing
at
all
wrong
with
it
they're
just
looking
for
the
best
rate.
E
E
Not
know,
apparently
they
do
I
guess.
Yeah
I've
talked
to
a
couple
lawyers,
and
it's
just
a
mechanism.
That's
available,
I
mean
the
other.
Another
thing
that
possibly
could
have
done
might
have
been
more
difficult
would
be
the
county's
industrial
facilities,
control
financing
authority.
Of
course,
we've
come
before
you
with
a
couple
of
those
matters
right.
Well,
this
is
just
a
different
mechanism.
A
E
The
state
and
the
statute,
it's
the
public
finance
authority
of
the
state
of
Wisconsin,
the
statutory
references.
Mr.
rice
is
asking
for
in
the
resolution
attached
to
the
agenda
and
it
mentions
the
IRS
Code
as
well.
I
guess,
North
Carolina
just
doesn't
have
that
kind
of
mechanism.
I
think
our
industrial
facilities
authority
would
be
appropriate
mechanism
for
Ingalls
or
any
other
entity
that
wanted
to
borrow
money
on
a
bond
type
basis,
but
this
is
for
nonprofits.
So
I
think
this
is
the
mechanism
available.
J
A
All
right
got
a
motion
to
the
second
over
here.
Thanks
for
all
those
questions,
yeah,
you
know
it
is.
It
is
very
unusual
it
it's
a
little
hard
to
understand
why
this
wisconsin
is
financing.
You
know
this
school
in
North
Carolina,
but
the
bottom
line
for
the
county
is
that
there's
no
we're
they're,
not
we're
not
guaranteeing
this
loan.
We
have
no
financial
stake
in
the
outcome
of
this
financial
transaction.
A
E
That's
why
they
call
them
limited
obligation,
bonds,
the
the
the
holders
of
the
bonds
would
have
to
go
through
a
trustee.
They'd
have
a
trustee
mechanism
like
some
bank
somewhere
and
the
remedy
would
be
to
foreclose
and
they
don't
sign
a
separate
note
that
I
know
of
that's
why
it's
a
limited
obligation
bond,
so
it's
just
the
land
is
the
security
for
the
debt.
It's.
L
A
M
M
Commissioner
Beach
for
our
Commissioner
frost
and
Commissioner
Whitesides
released
some
proposals
last
week
and
that's
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about
a
qualifying
statement
and
some
proposals,
I'll
be
honest
with
you.
I
referred
to
it
as
the
slap
in
the
face.
That
was
some
pretty
strong
language,
but
that's
really
kind
of
what
it
felt
like,
because
it's
hard
for
me
not
to
refer
to
Jasmine
Alan
Ellen
by
their
first
names,
because
I
know
I'm
all
very
well
and
have
had
many
conversations
with
them
outside
this
board
room.
M
So
when
I
read
the
need
for
oversights
for
their
Sheriff's
Office
and
other
law
enforcement
agencies
in
Buncombe,
County,
I
was
kind
of
shocked
and
I.
Also
looked
at
the
statement,
the
preface
of
the
statement
because
Commissioner
Beach
Farrar
said
it
was
a
crisis
of
racial
bias
and
the
way
people
in
Buncombe
County
were
being
policed.
That
was
on
par
with
the
opioid
epidemic
and
we
have
all
been
involved
in
trying
to
work
on
the
opioid
epidemic
and
a
tragedy.
M
Today,
it's
really
not
a
presentation,
I
hope
this
is
the
start
of
a
conversation
that
continues
on
past
today
that
we
really
pull
some
very
positive
things
out
of
what
started
out
of
the
rough.
So
let
me
talk
about
the
things
that
I'm
against
them.
One,
the
proposals
of
oversight
really
talk
about
taking
control
of
Police
Department's
policies
from
a
review
standpoint
and
bringing
them
up
to
a
particular
standard.
President
Obama's
21st
century
policing,
policies
which
we
do
quite
a
bit
of
and
I
would
love
at
some
point
in
time.
M
It's
well
funded,
it's
well
organized
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
try
to
do
is
they
try
to
put
pressure
on
local
boards
and
councils
to
give
up
law,
enforcement's
ability
to
set
their
policies
and
I'm
gonna.
Give
you
a
specific
example-
and
it
really
got
pointed
out
to
me
today,
because
the
public
defender
leanne.melton
has
sent
out
a
memo
about
doing
these
things.
The
Asheville
is
proposing
two
of
them,
which
sounds
reasonable.
If
you
don't
work
in
law
enforcement,
our
policies
around
regulatory
stops
and
motor
vehicles
and
consent
searches.
M
One
says
that
law
enforcement
will
be
very
well
restricted
in
what
kind
of
regulatory
is
dead.
Tags
taillights
out
equipment
stops
those
kind
of
things
on
the
motoring
public,
but
they
can't
pull
the
motorist
over
for
that,
but
they
have
to
contact
them
through
mail
or
some
other
reason
and
the
reason
why
they
try
to
push.
That
is
because
some
of
the
traffic
study
data
that
has
come
back
to
APD
from
ian
mance
and
Patrick
Connor.
Now
what
I
would
say
to
that
is:
please
don't
do
that.
M
It
sounds
reasonable,
but
when
we're
right
in
the
middle
of
an
opioid
crisis,
if
you
call
the
Sheriff's
Office
of
the
police
department-
and
you
say,
I
have
somebody
beside
me-
that's
selling
heroin
out
of
this
house
I
know
they're
doing
it.
We
receive
those
calls
every
day
or
I
know:
they're
selling
drugs
out
of
this
house,
vehicle
stops
and
consent.
M
I
come
to
work,
should
I
tell
them
to
call
the
commissioners
that
are
now
in
control
of
the
policy
or
the
activist
groups
that
have
brought
the
pressure
to
get
control
of
the
policies.
So
that's
why
I
kind
of
said
no
way
with
this
when
I
looked
at
it
statutorily
the
County
Commissioners
have
no
statutory
authority
to
dictate
to
the
sheriff's
office
and
I'm.
Not
talking
about
me.
M
I'm
gone
in
seven
months,
we
can
put
it
in
the
frame
of
the
next
sheriff
that
will
be
here
or
any
other
sheriff
in
the
hundred
counties
in
North
Carolina.
They
have
no
statutory
authority
to
dictate
to
that
sheriff.
What
policies
they
will
take,
what
law
enforcement
actions
they
will
take?
You
guys
have
fiduciary
responsibilities
to
approve
budgets.
Now,
that's
the
most
negative
thing
I
had
to
bring
to
you
tonight
and
I'm
glad
that's
out
of
the
way,
because
I'd
much
rather
talk
about
the
opportunity
for
collaboration.
M
Here
we
are
an
agency
of
best
practice
and
we
train
continually
our
biggest
challenge.
To
do
our
training
is
our
staffing
levels:
brownie
Joe,
Mike
Robert.
You
guys
all
y'all
been
to
a
community
meeting
at
some
point
in
time
and
and
I
get
asked
from
the
community.
Why
do
you
not
have
more
deputy
sheriff?
You
know
we
generally
have
thirteen
or
fourteen
that
are
out
fielding
your
calls
for
service
in
a
county
at
656
square
miles
and
90%
of
that
Falls
to
us,
because
we
make
it
work
and
we've
been
able
to
make
it
work.
M
We
know
when
we
come
asking
you
for
extra
personnel,
that's
a
hit
on
the
tax
base
and
I
feel
very
responsible.
The
people
of
Buncombe
County
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
ask
for
what
we
don't
absolutely
have
to
have.
But
what
I'm
going
to
tell
you
is,
as
our
population
grows,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
staffed
to
some
different
levels.
M
M
It's
the
personnel
cost
associated
with
training
when
you
have
an
agency
of
420
people
to
pull
all
those
folks
in
and
put
them
through
a
mandatory
training,
that's
a
huge
expense
and
one
of
the
obstacles
is
with
12
13
14
15
people.
Now
we've
got
16
on
a
patrol
shift
with
Ag
lieutenant
out
here,
answering
calls,
but
generally
when
you
take
that
relief
factor
of
six
sick
time,
training,
vacation
and
all
that,
what
we
don't
let
them
work
with
less
than
12,
and
at
least
two
supervisors
on
the
road.
M
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
really
push
that
minimal
staffing
level
so
to
be
able
to
engage
in
a
lot
more
training
which
I
would
love
to
do
and
I
agree
with
you
on
that
we're
going
to
have
to
be
staffed
at
a
different
level.
The
cost
won't
be
for
training
a
lot
of
times
that
that's
provided
through
the
community
college
system.
We
can
bring
trainers
in
they
managed
to
get
that
paid
for
the
cost,
is
personnel
cost
and
having
those
relief
factors
in
place
and
I'm
gang.
M
If
you
guys
are
game
I'm
game,
the
next
thing,
then,
the
most
positive
thing
I
can
bring
to
you
is
the
establishment
of
a
Human
Relations
Council,
when
a
b
c
or
c
was
functioning,
which
is
what
we
used
to
use
as
a
human
relations
council.
I
traveled
with
them
to
Charlotte
and
Fayetteville
to
see
how
their
Human
Relations
councils
worked,
I
traveled
with
Sarah
Nunez.
There
were
several
of
us
that
went.
We
took
one
of
the
sheriff's
offices
vehicles
and
went
and
met
now
you
may
say
Sheriff.
M
Why
do
you
believe
so
strongly
in
that?
Because
when
Sarah
Nunez
was
over,
the
ABC
are
see
she
got
policy
change
from
your
serious
office,
but
it
was
done
in
the
way
it
ought
to
be
done.
And
let
me
tell
you
the
story:
we
did
a
cop's
team,
one
of
those
things
that
we
got
nice
for
for
community
policing
in
a
Latino
neighborhood.
They
asked
us
to
come.
M
We
showed
up
our
officers
when
they
go
to
Barnard
field,
which
they're
there
tonight
they're
out
there
right
now
doing
a
cop's
team
or
when
they
go
to
any
other
area
of
the
county.
One
of
the
things
that
they
use
is
traffic
checks
to
be
able
to
find
out
who's
coming
in
and
out
of
the
neighborhood,
well,
understanding
that
you're
operating
in
a
Latino
community
with
all
the
issues
around
driver's
license
and
all
the
hardship
that
that
brings
and
those
things
that
that
incur
we
messed
up.
M
We
did
what
we
normally
did
not
to
put
a
hardship
on
anybody.
We
just
took
our
normal
playbook
and
we
went
out
there
and
we
went
to
work.
Sarah
nene
has
called
me
up
and
she
says
sheriff
what
are
you
doing?
I
said
well
we're
trying
to
help
this
community
and
she
told
me
what
we
were
doing
and
I
said
and
I
got
it
immediately.
M
I
went
back
to
the
patrol
division,
I
went
back
to
chief
deputy
Rogers
and
I
said
we
need
to
dial
in
a
directive
and
change
that
policy
and
look
and
make
sure
that
we're
sensitive
to
the
folks
that
live
in
that
particular
community.
How
we
go
about
policing,
we
still
want
to
go
there
and
help,
but
this
has
all
different
kinds
of
implications
for
that
community
that
doesn't
have
for
other
communities.
I
call
Sarah
back
and
said
we
fixed
it.
M
M
She
said
I
want
to
see
that
change
in
your
policy,
so
I
had
to
tell
you,
draw
those
directives
up
and
we
put
it
into
our
operational
plan.
I
went
and
I
met
with
that
community
and
sat
down
with
them
and
I
said
I'm.
Sorry,
we
messed
up
what
an
intentional
here's,
what
we've
done
to
fix
it.
Please
continue
to
work
with
us
because
they
were
getting
their
houses
broke
into.
M
M
But
when
you
come
sat
down
with
a
group
of
people
to
collaborate,
I'm
producing
a
product
if
you're
sitting
there
with
a
law
enforcement
or
somebody
that
you're
the
folks
that
you
normally
work
with
or
dead,
set
against,
if
you're
gonna
collaborate
and
produce
a
product
you
have
to
advocate
for
those
folks
sitting
at
the
table,
if
they're
doing
it
right,
you
call
them
out
when
they
don't,
but
you
advocate
for
them
when
they
do
it
right.
That's
what
I'm
asking
for
I
got
seven
months
left!
That's
a
lot
of
time.
M
M
Seven
months
is
a
long
time
to
get
some
things
accomplished.
I
am
more
than
happy
to
meet
you
and
have
this
conversation
about
establishing
Asheville
in
Buncombe,
County
and
Human
Relations
Council,
that's
effective
that
deals
with
the
people
that
live
in
the
neighborhoods,
the
complaints
they
have
in
the
issues
they
have
with
law
enforcement,
and
it's
done
in
a
factual
based
way
that
doesn't
deal
with
national
things,
but
deals
with
that
neighborhood
right
here
in
Buncombe
County
that
produces
something
tangible
for
the
people
who
live
in
that
community.
M
You
know
when
you
do
those
things:
that's
what
makes
hard
day's
worth
it.
I
can
promise
you
that
if
we
get
together,
we
collaborate
we
get
that
done
and
we
see
what
that
brings
to
a
community.
It
will
be
worth
all
the
hardship
that
all
of
us
live
through
last
week
and
I
hope
we're
able
to
get
that
done.
You
guys
have
any
questions
for
me.
I.
J
We,
as
you
said,
we
give
you
many
when
you
ask
for
it.
We
do
not
give
you
instructions
what
to
do
with
your
money.
You're
elected
no
different!
We
are.
This
is
not
a
board
that
should
be
trying
to
run
a
Sheriff's
Department
or
run
with
some
police
department
or
weaverville
or
Black
Mountain
writing
stuff
down
and
put
it
in
a
paper
before
anybody
knows
them
I'm
against
doing
van
doing
a
Buncombe
asheville
review.
J
Well
that
kind
of
it's
okay
in
its
own
way,
but
you
know
bring,
would
fit
into
it.
The
chief
bring
the
chief
from
Black
Mountain,
the
chief
from
weaverville,
that's
the
people
that
need
to
make
it
work.
It's
not
any
of
us
sitting
on
this
board.
I
promise
you
that,
because
I
could
build
a
race
motor
but
I'm,
not
a
police
officer
and
that's
the
Blaine
way.
I
look
at
it.
I
got
elected
to
try
to
distribute
the
taxpayers
money
in
the
best
way.
J
I
can
giving
you
the
money
to
do
what
you
want
to
do
with.
Sometimes
it's
hard,
sometimes
I,
disagree,
but
I
do
support
where
you're
at
I
do
not
support
what
was
put
in
the
paper
period
at
all.
I'm.
Sorry
that
this
gentleman,
mr.
Rush,
what
happened
to
him,
100
percent,
sorry
and
I-
don't
care
what
color
he
is.
If
it's
a
white
guy,
it
would
bother
me
just
as
bad
totally,
but
it's
not
for
us
to
make
decisions
for
what
you
do.
I'm.
M
Commissioner
Friday,
this
would
be
my
hope,
you
know
to
say
what
a
human
relations
Council
with
impose
it
and
say:
we've
a
wood
from
Black
Mountain,
Biltmore,
Forest
y'all,
going
to
be
part
of
this
thing
without
letting
them
experience
it
like
I
have
experientially
what
good
it
can
do.
I,
don't
know
that
they
would
be
clamoring
and
they
might
be
I.
Don't
know,
I'm
glad
to
have
that
conversation.
M
Conversation
with
them,
but
I
do
know
this
I
think
if
we
have
that
entity
functioning
and
it
sees
how
it
works
for
both
well
for
all
the
people
sitting
at
the
table
and
and
when
we
get
into
underserved
communities
we
get
into
the
issues.
It's
not
just
a
law
enforcement
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
contribute.
You
know
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
underserved
communities
in
Buncombe
County,
but
they're,
not
primarily
african-american
they're,
Latino
and
they're
Caucasian,
but
a
lot
of
the
factors
are
still
at
the
table.
M
So
what
it
does
is
it
brings
those
stakeholders
to
the
table
to
have
open
discussions
around
outcomes,
not
around
positions,
not
around
agendas
but
around
outcomes,
and
what
you
produce
and
and
I
think
it
can
be
a
very
effective
way
and
when
these
municipalities
see
this
work,
I
think
they'll
want
to
be
part.
I
don't
think
you'll
have
to
convince.
So
that
would
be
my
plan
or
they
would
start
the.
J
Municipalities,
I
understand
that
they're
not
happy
and
I
saw
30
years.
They
haven't
had
not
one
problem
and
we
were
there.
You
know
so
you
know
we're
trying
to
put
a
blanket
on
something
that
shouldn't
have
a
blanket
on
it.
You
know,
city
of
Asheville
has
a
problem.
They
have
for
a
long
time.
It's
not
the
cheese
fault.
J
I
looked
at
nice
job
done
sitting
up,
Erin
I
said
well,
hey
you
gonna
get
three
more
officers
when
you're
twenty
three
short
already,
so
they
were
at
that
time
trying
to
put
more
officers
on
I,
don't
know
what
they're
trying
to
do
today,
but
back
then,
and
that's
the
way
it
was
and
I
know
it's
tough
and
it's
tough
on
the
officers
in
the
city.
It's
tough
on
all
these
officers.
You
know
I,
don't
understand
sometimes
well.
Any
of
us
want
the
job,
because
sometimes
it's
a
miserable
job
and
but
I
appreciate
everything.
J
All
of
us
do
from
the
cities
to
ever
sure.
If
it's
in
here
the
ones
that
protect
us
in
here
all
the
time,
I
just
think
I
have
nothing
else
to
say,
except
the
fact
is
it's.
What
was
done
was
wrong.
I
agree
with
you
and
that's
that's
that's
the
worst
thing
we
had
a
deal
long
time
ago.
That
was
bad,
just
turned
out
to
be
worse.
H
You
know
that
and
I
support
the
police
officers,
but
what
we
did
last
week,
I
questioned
if
it
was
wrong
and
the
reason
I
say
that
is
you
know:
I
have
one
fault,
and
that
is
that
I
care
about
people,
I
care
about
everybody
and
sometimes
what
we
were
concerned
about
I
think
I
speak
for
they're.
The
two
commissioners
we
didn't
want
us
to
end
up
in
the
same
place
that
the
city
of
Asheville
is
in
folks.
I've
lived
in
this
county
for
73
years
now.
H
Although
I
guess
a
lot
of
my
people
that
I
hear
from
probably
live
in
the
city.
Where
that
you
spend
the
opposite,
you
know
they
support
what
we're
doing.
But
in
any
situation
like
this,
we're
gonna
have
both
and
I've
heard
from
people
everywhere,
but
I
agree
with
you.
We
need
to
sit
down
and
talk
about
it
and
go
there
and
I
just
caution.
H
You
I
sit
on
the
committee
to
help
the
city
of
Asheville
with
this
new
Human
Relations
Council
bring
it
about,
but
in
doing
that,
I
just
hope
that
we
don't
make
the
same
mistakes
that
we
made
that
killed
the
last
human
relations
Council
and
you
familiar
with
that.
I.
Don't
but
I
do
think.
That's
the
way
to
go
and
we
need
to
discuss
it
because
that
can
handle
a
lot
and
prevent
a
lot
of
what
we're
going
through.
Commissioner.
M
Think
where
we
ran
afoul
with
this
thing
is,
you
know,
and
I
responded
how
I
responded
think
we
ran
afoul
was
the
process
and
how
it
how
the
conversation
started,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
can
fail,
because
the
conversation
started
in
a
bad
place,
I'm
still
open
to
working
on
the
training
piece
and
absolutely
open
to
the
and
whatever
way
that
the
county
can
help
with
that,
I
I
would
warn
it's
going
to
be
the
structure
of
the
Human
Relations
Council
and
who
you
put
on
that.
You
can't
have
folks
that
are
agenda
driven.
M
H
M
And
we
may
I
know
a
lot
of
times
it
gets
to
who's
going
to
do
the
work.
Mandy
knows
this,
it's
the
fair
house
and
you
know,
there's
a
whole
lot
that
they
handle
that's
outside
of
law
enforcement
and
then
it's.
How
do
you
divide
that
up
and
the
jurisdictional
boundaries
get
sometimes
to
be
an
obstacle
so
a
lot
of
times?
If
you
can
do
that
that
that
would
be
collaborative
for
the
county
in
the
city?
That
would
probably
be
the
best.
M
B
B
I
was
not
asked
to
join
in
on
the
statement.
I
did
not
join
in
on
the
statement
and
and
would
not
have
for
a
couple
reasons.
One
is,
though,
I
there
are
times
from
a
budget
standpoint
that
I
will
that
I
don't
agree
with
the
with
the
Sheriff's
Department,
where
we
might
look
at
something
or
he
might
try
to
refine
something
or
have
some
other
ideas,
I
and
I.
B
Think
every
commissioner
understands
this
I
think
that
you
know
I
understand
through
my
community
and
through
some
some
young
young
men
and
women,
that
I
know
that
are
on
the
that
serve
that
it's
a
very,
very
difficult
job
and
I
know
you
are
not
looking
for
any
Pat's
on
the
back
or
anything
like
that
and
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
doing
that
I'm.
Just
acknowledging
that
it's.
It
is
a
very
difficult
position.
B
Also
when
you
get
out
in
the
county,
as
you'd
mentioned
before
some
of
the
underserved
areas
are
that
it's
it's
different
and
how
those
those
those
areas
are
managed
and
and
how
the
relationships
are
built.
You
know,
may
be
different.
I
know
that
in
two
of
my
communities,
Lester
and
Candler,
that
that
are
the
that
have
had
challenges
you
all
have
went
out
of
your
way
with
the
cops
team
and
some
other
things
to
try
to
bring
those
communities
together.
B
So
I,
don't
I'm
not
looking
for
tonight
to
be
a
an
opportunity
to
pick
pick
sides
because
I,
don't
think
that's
what
we're
here
to
do.
I,
don't
think
that's
what
you're
here
to
do.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
I.
Am
that
I
appreciate
what
you
do
I'm
concerned
about,
you
know
and
and
I
don't
have
the
facts,
but
I'm
concerned
in
some
of
the
with
some
of
the
national
things
about
about
our
school
school
safety.
You
know
I
want
us
to
be.
You
know,
I've
had
some
conversations
about
that.
B
You
know
and
looking
forward
I'm,
not
saying
that
we're
doing
a
bad
job.
It's
just
in
light
of
events.
We
get
concerned
in
certain
areas,
I'm
concerned
in
that
and
always
willing
to
to
step
up
with
with
any
additional
training
that
you
know
that
is
needed.
I
think!
That's
always
good!
You
know
if,
if
it,
if
it
fits
within
the
framework
of
what
the
Sheriff's
Department
is
wanting
to
try
to
achieve
and
the
end
results
in
those
communities,
so
but
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
coming
out.
B
You've
got
quite
a
few
here
and
in
men,
and
women
in
blue
and
I
appreciate
appreciate
what
you
do,
but
I
really
appreciate
the
dialogue
you
you
didn't
have
to
come
in
here
tonight
and
have
this
conversation
that
will
open
up
a
dialogue
that
I
believe
will
produce
some
positive
results
and
I.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
D
Jasmine
and
Alan
I
wrote
that,
with
the
best
of
intentions,
we've
known
each
other
a
really
really
long
time,
and
you
know
how
long
before
I
was
on
the
commission,
how
I've
always
advocated
for
increases
in
salaries
for
law
enforcement,
Public,
Safety
I've,
probably
been
the
staunchest
one
for
increased
pay
and
increased,
paying
training
and
I
and
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
conversation.
I
think
what
is
emblematic
about
the
problem
we
have
in
our
community
is
that
people
feel
in
need
to
take
sides
when
we're
all
in
this
together.
D
I
grew
up
in
an
era
where
I
was
fortunate
enough,
where
a
policeman
was
my
best
friend
and
I
knew
if
I
was
in
trouble,
that's
where
I
would
go.
That
was
fortunate
for
me,
and
I
was
privileged
to
feel
that
way.
There
are
a
lot
of
in
our
community
through
no
fault
of
any
ones
that
don't
feel
that
way
and
we
have
victims.
I
know
people
who
have
been
severely
profiled,
whether
they're
in
the
county
or
the
city,
but
we
can't
get
anywhere
unless
we
have
honest
conversations.
D
I've
been
an
advocate
for
more
funds
for
training
for
almost
as
long
as
we've
known
each
other,
an
increased
officer
pay.
None
of
us
would
trade
places
with
someone
doing
what
you
folks
do.
We
would
not,
but
the
divine
and
the
stark
reaction
I
think
is
why
we
need
to
have
a
commerce
because
we're
all
in
this
together
and
we
all
have
to
be
in
this
together,
but
we
met
no
intent.
We
did
not
mean
to
be
insulting.
D
We
wanted
to
speak
for
a
lot
of
the
people
that
don't
have
a
voice
and
there
are
a
lot
of
them
out
there
that
feel
underserved,
they're
white
they're
brown,
whatever
color
they
are,
but
that's
who
I
was
speaking
for
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
other
commissioners,
but
I
go
what
this
was
a
good
heart,
I
value
and
I
respect
what
you
all
do.
As
commissioner
fryer
said,
you
know,
your
dedication
is
endless,
but
you
know
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
the
whole
county
and
advocate
for
everybody,
law,
enforcement
and
citizens.
L
You
know
chime
in
and
say,
I
think
this
is
an
important
conversation
to
be
having
and
in
my
mind,
part
of
a
long-standing
conversation
that
we've
been
in
and
I've
had
opportunity
of
you
and
with
other
leaders
in
law
enforcement.
It's
a
conversation,
I'll
have
with
anybody
any
day
and
I
don't
presuppose
that
we
need
to
agree
on
every
point.
In
fact,
I
think
that
having
people
who
don't
agree
on
every
point
often
leads
you
to
the
best
solutions.
L
There's
a
tendency,
I
think
when
something
happens
in
one
jurisdiction
to
say
it's
confined
to
that
jurisdiction,
and
we
shouldn't
talk
about
it.
The
intent
of
this
statement
was
not
to
cast
blame.
It
was
not
to
paint
with
broad
brushstrokes.
It
was
to
talk
about
things
that
have
directly
impacted
constituents,
community
members
in
Buncombe
County,
and
to
put
some
policy
ideas
on
the
table.
Maybe
those
are
policy
ideas
that
you
know,
there's
certainly
ideas.
We
need
to
kick
the
tires
on.
There
may
be
ones
where
there's
opportunity
to
move
swiftly.
L
My
hope
is-
and
my
belief
is,
there
are
other
ideas
out
there.
Maybe
they'll
come
from
law
enforcement.
Maybe
they'll
come
from
the
public
defender
or
DA's
office
from
county
or
city
staff
from
community
members
and
advocates
I'm
a
minister
by
training.
I
know
a
lot
of
clergy
who
work
directly
around
these
issues
and
also
bring
ideas
to
the
table.
L
I
had
the
opportunity
to
be
part
of
a
community
working
group
that
APD
convened
to
work
on
the
assessment
and
revision
of
youth
enforce
and
de-escalation
policies
and
I
know
that
Asheville
Police
Department
has
some
of
the
most
forward-facing
policies
in
the
country
around
those
I
think
what
happened
when
mr.
rush
helps
us
as
a
community
see
that
policy
is
one
piece
of
the
puzzle,
there's
a
lot
of
other
pieces
that
have
to
come
into
play.
L
It
is
my
understanding
that
part
of
our
role
as
a
commissioner
is
to
be
putting
policy
ideas
forward
and
talking
directly
with
community
members
and
having
open
doors
that
we
don't
need
to
agree
at
every
time,
but
the
intent
of
putting
policy
ideas
out
in
a
public
setting
is
saying
these
are
their
ideas.
Let's
talk
about
them.
Let's
see
where
this
process
can
get
us.
L
The
intent
is
not
to
critique
the
intent
is
not
to
over
generalize
but
I'd
know
directly
from
hearing
the
stories
and
experiences
of
people
in
our
community
that
whether
an
incident
has
happened
within
the
jurisdiction
one
lives
in
or
not.
It
can
still
touch
you
and
inflect
and
impact
the
way
that
you
experience.
Local
government,
public
offices
and
agencies
and
interactions
with
law
enforcement,
I
think
some
communities
our
country
have
to
find
a
way
forward,
and
you
know
this
is
a
local
issue,
but
we
can't
ignore
what's
also
happening
in
the
nation.
L
New
York
City
has
some
of
the
most.
You
know
some
of
the
most
robust
funding
around
these
issues
and
we
saw
just
last
week
there
was
a
shooting
that
happened,
a
tragic
incident
around
mental
health
incident
that
left
him.
You
remember
dead,
it's
every
community
in
the
country
is
facing
questions
like
this.
My
focus
and
my
orientation
is
how
in
Buncombe
County,
we
can
come
together
across
honestly
divides
that
typically
people
keep
people
from
talking.
If
people
are
going
to
get
angry
at
me
in
that
process,
that's
okay,
I
can
take.
It.
L
I
hope
that
I
can
always
have
the
opportunity
to
clarify
what
my
intention
was.
The
intention
here
was
not
to
criticize
the
intention
here
was
to
put
some
ideas
on
the
table
and
say:
what
can
we
do
together
as
a
community
and
I
truly
believe
in
my
heart?
And
my
faith
teaches
me
this:
each
and
every
day
we
have
to
be
able
to
say
in
the
same
sentence.
There
are
dedicated
public
servants
and
law
enforcement
who
get
up
each
and
every
day
and
they're,
brave
and
they're
courageous,
and
they
serve
our
community
in
ways.
L
The
one
final
thing
I'll
say
is
I
understand
that
there
is
concern
about
overreach
I,
don't
see
it
that
way,
I
respect
the
authority
and
autonomy
of
the
Sheriff's
Department
to
set
policy
at
that
level
and
I
understand
the
clear
bright
lines
that
exist
around
our
role.
At
the
same
time,
one
of
the
things
that
I
take
from
the
situation
that
happened
in
Asheville
is
there
weren't
enough
mechanisms
in
our
community
for
someone
to
report
a
use
of
incident.
L
Yussef
orts
incident
have
access
to
Victim
Services
and
have
access
to
information
about
what
legal
representation
they
were
afforded
and
support
in
moving
through
that
legal
process.
I.
Imagine
if
one
was
a
victim
of
such
an
incident,
it
would
be
very
intimidating
and
bewildering
to
try
to
figure
out
where
to
access,
support
and
assistance.
I.
Don't
know
that
that
figuring
out
how
to
address
that
falls
within
the
domain
solely
of
the
sheriff's
department.
L
M
I
was
done,
but
now
I'm
not
and
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
You
keep
on
referring
to
it
as
the
Sheriff's
Department,
it's
a
Sheriff's
Office.
It
has
an
elected
official
that
is
respond
before
the
outcomes
and
the
actions
of
that
office.
That
happens
to
be
me,
it
will
be
for
seven
more
months
and
then
it
will
be.
M
Now
let
me
finish
with
this
statement,
and
I
say
this
for
these
people
here
in
blue
and
black,
that
serve
when
elected
officials.
Jump
on
board
was
something
that's
very
loosely
grounded
in
fact,
and
they
make
people
in
the
community
feel
like
they
have
something
to
fear
from
people
who
are
there
to
help
them
you're.
Adding
to
the
problem,
we
had
a
situation
of
McDonald's.
Yesterday
we
went
in
to
serve
a
warrant.
M
We
have
traditionally
never
had
race
issues
with
the
Buncombe
County
Sheriff's
Office,
and
it's
not
because
we're
just
so
much
a
better
agency
than
a
Nashville
police
department.
We
do
not
police
that
dynamic
out
in
the
county,
okay,
but
we
went
in
to
serve
a
warrant
and
a
young
african-american
male
who
worked
there
crawled
out
the
drive-through
window
ran
and
was
screaming.
Are
you
guys
going
to
murder
me?
M
That's
what
happens
when
you
have
these
type
of
conversations
to
push
political
agendas
the
day
to
day
work
they
do
out
here
gets
complicated
and
it
makes
it
harder
and
it
makes
it
more
dangerous
for
the
people
we
serve
and
the
people,
whoever
in
the
service
I've
said
enough
chairman.
Thank
you.
One
will
appreciate
the
municipal
Chiefs
for
being
here.
I,
thank
them
for
coming
to
support
and
I
appreciate,
you're
still
open
to
the
collaboration,
so.
M
I
B
Want
to
mention
something
you
know:
I've
been
a
commissioner
for
for
almost
six
years.
You
know
just
say:
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
difference
between
advocacy
and
service
and
at
the
national
level.
There's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
agendas
that
are
being
pushed
by
the
media
and
pushed
by
different
other
things.
You
can,
you
can
believe
them
or
not
believe
them
or
or
accept
them
or
you
can.
B
You
can
stir
them
or
not,
but
it
is
a
fact
and
I
am
a
Buncombe
County
Commissioner
I
am
driven
by
what
occurs
in
Buncombe
County,
and
that
is
what
I
will
will
vote
on.
That
is
what
I
will
fund.
I
am
NOT,
going
to
be
moved
by
national
agendas,
I'm
not
going
to
get
caught
up
in
all
of
that,
it's
too
hard
to
deal
with
just
what
we've
got
to
deal
with
other
than
and
and
I
think
that
it's
it
may
be
harder
and
I
can't
speak
for
any
Commissioner.
B
But
when
I
become
a
commissioner
I
thought
there
were
some
things
that
I
could
do
I
learned
very
quickly.
I
couldn't
do
those
because
number
one.
It
wasn't.
My
job
number.
Two
statutorily
I
couldn't
do
it
number
three.
Some
people
were
elected
in
the
in
those
positions.
I
had
some
very
very
differences
of
opinions
with
the
register
date
and
but
that
that
positions
elected
your
position
is
elected.
I
fund
and
vote
on
your
budget.
B
There
and
I
will
say
again.
There
is
a
difference
between
advocacy
and
there's
a
place
for
that.
I
have
a
lot
of
people
that
wonder
why
I
don't
stand
on
this
on
the
street
and
hold
signs
for
certain
things.
I
have
chosen
after
being
a
commissioner
to
not
do
that
because
for
me
it
is
very
important
to
protect
the
integrity
of
this
seat
and
stay
within
the
decisions
that
I
am
called
to
do,
which
end
up
on
this
agenda.
B
If
I
have
the
ability
to
get
them
on
the
agenda,
then
we
will
vote
on
them
and
there
is
a
difference
between
structures
between
different
I
mean
you
go
to
you
go
to
Nashville,
and
they
they
don't.
They
don't
have
the
city
County
government.
They
have
one
government
there's
differences
in
in
how
these
things
are
handled,
but
I,
you
know
I
think
collaboration
is
what
we
need
and
and
y'all
know.
If
I
wanted
to
right
now,
everybody
everybody
knows
enough
amount
about
me.
B
I
have
I
have
seen
evidence
of
that
from
your
department
and
I
know
it's
a
difficult
job,
but
I
will
say
here
tonight:
there's
a
big
difference
between
advocacy
in
service
and
those
lines
can
get
blurred
and
we
have
to
be
careful
as
commissioners
not
get
caught
up
in
national
things
be
focused
on
what
we
have
here
and
we
may
be
influenced
by
Buncombe
County,
it's
hard
enough
to
do
it.
It
just
is,
and
as
a
commissioner,
it's
very
very
difficult
to
stay
within
the
scope
of
what
we
do.
D
All
with
all
due
respect
to
everyone,
my
feelings
about
this,
my
desire
for
more
training,
my
more
advocacy
for
constituents
has
nothing
to
do
with
a
national
agenda
or
a
political
agenda.
It
is
for
what's
fair
and
right
to
represent
citizens
that
I
represent
when
I
hear
their
stories.
When
I
hear
folks
talk
about
being
afraid
to
go
to
certain
areas,
that's
who
I
represent.
This
is
nothing
to
do
with
politics
on
the
national
level.
D
This
is
to
represent
the
people
that
matter
to
me
and
when
I
hear
stories,
I
also
have
evidence,
this
departments,
compassion
and
kindness.
This
is
not
meant
to
divide,
but
when
someone
says
that
my
words
are
from
a
national
agenda,
no
it's
from
my
heart
and
it's
from
people
that
I
love
and
that
are
close
to
me
and.
J
I
have
one
more
I'm
done:
I,
don't
want
it
to
come
down
to
race
because
it's
like
I
talked
to
Alan
and
talk
to
the
City
Council
members
downstairs
many
years
ago,
both
of
us
above
70.
He
was
on
one
side
of
the
track
and
I
was
on
the
other
side
of
the
track.
We
both
called
each
other's
names.
I
was
the
honky.
Okay
and
I
was
basically
where
he
was
at.
We
finally
got
to
the
middle
of
the
tracks.
All
this
is
today.
It's
moving
us
away
from
the
center
of
the
tracks.
J
Racism
is
not
something
I,
don't
look
in
this
audience
and
see
color
anymore,
I.
Don't
and
I.
Won't
that's
the
fact,
but
your
job
is
your
job.
Our
job
is
to
give
you
Manny
it's
not
to
control.
You
I
promise
you
and
what
they
did
was
wrong.
I
understand
outside
of
it,
because
the
community
but
I
understand
my
side
of
it
because
I
talked
to
people
too.
I
know
it's
not
anything
to
do
with
the
main
government.
J
The
fact
is,
as
I
look
out
here
and
I
see
a
lot
of
people
that
really
want
to
work
hard
for
the
people
of
the
county,
the
city,
all
the
cities-
I'm
proud
of
them,
but
I'm
not
proud
that
we
have
people
that
want
to
say
we're.
We're
gonna,
give
you
some
more
money
to
do.
Funding
for
this,
for
that
I
didn't
know
that
it
was
three
people
in
made
a
decision
that
there's
going
to
try
to
do
something
that
nobody
else
knew
about.
J
Yes
or
you
and
I
appreciate
you,
ins
coming
in
I
appreciate
it.
Every
one
of
us
have
walked
in
here
chiefs
from
the
different
areas,
but
I
am
just
well.
I
will
be
voting
on
anything
if
they
try
to
bring
forward
that
tries
to
govern
the
search.
Department
I
promise
you
I
can
say
no
to
your
budget,
but
I
can't
say
no
to
what
you
try
to
do
after
that.
A
All
right
Sheriff,
thank
you
for
coming
in
this
evening.
Thank
you
to
all
the
law-enforcement,
men
and
women
who
are
here.
Thank
you
for
your
service
to
our
community
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
and
you
know
and
I
appreciate
all
the
commissioners
I
heard
this
might
not
be
might
not
be
a
simple
informational
presentation.
These
are.
These
are
important
issues
in
the
community
of
course,
and
so,
and
people
feel
very
strongly
about
them.
A
Public
Safety
is
is
one
of
our
most
important
roles
of
government
and
your
office's
is
as
critical
to
that,
as
are
all
the
municipal
agencies
in
our
community,
as
has
been
said
before,
it's
one
of
the
hardest
jobs
that
exists
in
our
community,
and
so
we
appreciate
it,
but
the
issues
around
community
concerns
and
civil
liberties
are
very
important
to
people
too.
So
these
are.
These
are
not
easy
conversations
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
common
ground.
A
We've
already
talked
about
some
of
it
this
evening
and,
as
has
been
said
before,
it's
it's
okay,
to
not
agree
on
every
single
policy
point
that
comes
up.
If
we,
if
we
did,
we
probably
probably
means
we're
not
asking
hard
enough
questions
right
and
so,
but
I
think
this
was
a
good,
a
good
part
of
advancing
the
conversation,
and
we
look
forward
to
to
continuing
that
with
you
and
all
the
other
folks
in
the
law
enforcement
community.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
C
Chairman
and
commissioners,
we
bring
to
you
tonight
as
a
staff,
updated
administrative
policy,
specifically
a
countywide
policy
related
to
gift
cards,
meals
and
meetings.
While
we
did
have
policies
in
Health
and
Human
Services
in
those
areas
tonight
we
bring
you
at
countywide
policy.
In
addition,
we
bring
you
revisions
to
the
procurement
card
policy
and
our
travel
policies.
Do
you
want
to
begin
by
saying
that
it's
not
that
there
were
no
rules
or
policies
in
place?
It's
that
the
highest-ranking
County
employee
chose
to
act
outside
those
policies
and
rules.
C
It's
not
that
that
anywhere
in
those
policies
it
it
gave
authority
to
the
highest
acting
County
employee
to
act
outside
of
them.
What's
different.
Today.
Is
this
board
to
quick
and
decisive
action
to
limit
the
chief
executive
officers,
opportunity
to
implode
any
kind
of
management
override
against
policies
and
I
want
to
talk
about
that,
because
that
happened?
July
1st,
as
of
July
1st,
the
county
managers
was
limited
both
in
the
amount
of
expenditures
in
the
way
in
which
the
county
manager
can
expend
funds
it
established.
The
finance
director
is
a
secondary
approver
on
any
expenditures.
C
It
also
included
changes
in
the
reporting
structure
to
our
internal
auditor
and
our
audit
committee
we've
also
added
additional
resources
to
internal
audit.
It
changed
the
reporting
structure
that
finance
director
and
segregated
the
duties
to
the
finance
director
and
the
chief
executive
officer.
I
want
to
share
that
to
make
the
point
that
the
policies
we
bring
you
tonight
are
good
governance,
they're,
just
simply
updating
policies
and
making
decisions
that
move
us
forward
as
an
organization
in
the
right
way.
C
You
dealt
immediately
in
July
and
again
in
August,
with
the
crisis
issues
that
faced
us
as
an
organization,
and
that's
not
what
we
bring
you
tonight.
The
the
policies
we
bring
you
tonight
were
developed
by
staff,
many
of
whom
are
here
tonight
and
two
of
two
of
whom
will
present
them
when
you
adopted
COSO
internal
audit
standards.
C
That
requires
you
to
say
that
internal
audit
has
to
be
integrated
throughout
the
organization
that
every
employee
has
a
responsibility
to
make
sure
we
manage
the
public
resources
correctly
and
that
we
have
an
avenue
to
raise
questions
or
concerns.
When
we
see
something
that
doesn't
appear
right,
you
took
decisive
action
to
do
that.
C
I
think
that's
important
and
to
remind
yourself,
you
have
almost
1500
employees
who
act
with
integrity
and
manage
the
public's
resources
from
a
place
of
honesty
and
responsibility,
and
that's
what
we
bring
to
you
tonight
when
you
adopted
the
co-ceo
standards,
you
took
additional
steps.
You
established
a
no
retaliation
policy.
You
gave
employees
a
way
to
voice
concerns,
who
not
fear
that
there
would
be
consequences,
as
related
as
in
relation
to
that,
you
developed
an
employee
protection
hotline
and
you
added
structure
to
your
whistleblower
hotline
that
removed
any
oversight
from
the
county
manager's
office.
C
County
has
been
implementing
that
system
ready
to
launch
for
the
last
three
years
and
we
launched
April
1st
that
system
and
you'll
hear
about
that
tonight
brings
you
in
automatic
approvals
into
the
system,
and
it
also
provides
the
opportunity
for
increased
public
transparency,
including
an
online
checkbook
system.
So
the
public
can
see
how
that
county
expands
its
resources.
Tonight,
I
want
to
thank
Jim,
Holland
who's,
the
assistant
county
manager
and
Terry
orange
our
internal
auditor,
who
ever
saw
several
staff
workgroups
from
large
county
departments,
small
county
departments
from
finance
and
budget.
C
N
N
There
was
also
an
assessment
and
update
to
the
personnel
ordinance
which
you
all
adopted
back
in
October,
as
Mandy
mentioned,
the
workday
implementation
has
been
a
huge
focus,
especially
in
our
area,
and
this
really
does
change
the
way
that
we
literally
do
every
financial
transaction
in
the
county.
Everything
is
routed
electronically.
N
This
is
a
structure
that
Mandy
presented
so
a
lot
of
the
administrative
work
we're
going
to
talk
about
as
just
part
of
county
government
but
Mandy
when
she
came
in
she
presented
this
framework,
which
formalized
a
lot
of
the
processes
in
within
the
organization.
It
also
brought
together
some
cross-functional
teams
to
pursue
these
areas
so
three
main
areas,
the
first
one
is
the
one
we're
gonna
focus
on
for
the
rest
of
the
presentation.
That's
the
policies
and
procedures
area.
N
So
there
were
some
some
key
policies
that
were
pointed
out
for
us
to
address,
or
also
was
the
desire
for
us
to
formalize.
The
approach
that
we
took
to
reviewing
county
policies
so
write
it
down
prioritize
and
determine
what
the
roles
and
scopes
are
in
that
process
and
we'll
drill
into
that
in
a
little
bit.
Next
up
was
a
structure
group
and
this
is
led
so
John
and
I
are
aren't
a
part
of
that,
but
they're
evaluating
just
the
structures
within
the
organization
across
staffing,
reporting
and
and
so
forth.
N
O
Evening
so
as
we
move
forward
with
the
policies
and
procedures,
our
team
looked
at
an
inventory
of
the
current
policies
we
had
and
then
we
also
looked
at
pure
counties.
Other
urban
counties
policies,
other
other
organizations
on
a
par
with
that
made
sense
to
look
at
those
policies
and
inform
what
we
were
doing
and
we,
as
that
then
established
a
process
for
our
policy
assessment.
We
recommended
priorities
for
our
policy
reviews
and
we
looked.
We
looked
at
our
policies
and
we
decided
what
was
good.
O
What
might
need
to
change
where
our
strengths
were
and
what
we
and
what
we
needed
to
add
to
those
policies.
And
then
we
have
a
vast
amount
of
different
departments,
and
that
vary
wildly
in
scope
and
size.
So
we
had
to
address
unique
and
unusual
department
needs
and
and
I
think
what
drove
our
process
was
to
have
policies
that
were
that
everyone
could
understand
and
didn't
restrict
people's
ability
to
do
their
jobs.
O
Some,
rather
than
make
it
too
restrictive,
make
it
easy
to
read
plain
language
and
and
that
it
was
viable
and
that
it
wasn't
and
that
those
policies
were
useful
to
people
and
not
something
that
people
were
going
to
throw
away.
We
wanted
things
to
be
clear
and
concise.
I
think
you
can
say
sometimes
something
in
three
pages
a
lot
easier,
sometimes
than
you
can
in
nine
or
ten
and
people
are
going
to
read
a
three-page
policy
before
they're
going
to
read
a
10
or
15
page
policy.
O
K
O
Here
we
have
Matt
Evans
and
autumn
alivers
from
budgeting
and
finance.
We
have
Tessa
Downey.
We
have
Ron
Ventrella
from
procurement
here
with
us,
and
Shari
powers
with
the
sheriff's
office
was
here
earlier
this
evening
as
well.
So
thank
you
very
much
folks.
This
was
a
fantastic
team
that
really
pulled
together
and
gave
us
deliverables
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time.
We
convened
this
group
at
the
very
beginning
of
February
and
delivered
these
policies
for
review
to
the
stones
management
team
by
the
end
of
that
month.
O
So
the
policy
lineup
we
worked
through
the
first
four
policies
on
this
list:
the
procurement
cart
or
the
P
cards,
the
gift
card
policy,
our
travel
policy
and
our
meeting
and
meal
expenses
were
the
things
that
we
addressed
initially
in
this
round.
Our
work
is
not
done
and
we
have
other
policies
on
this
list,
as
you
can
see
that
we'll
be
working
on
over
the
next
several
weeks.
N
So
I'd
like
to
talk
just
briefly
about
the
criteria
that
the
group
used.
So
what
were
the
things
we
were
looking
for?
We
went
through
these
policies.
First
of
all,
clarity
was
this
something
that
was
the
state.
The
purpose
was
clearly
defined.
Do
you
understand?
What's
going
on
when
you
read,
read
the
policy
effectiveness
so
now
that
we
have
that
objective
stated?
Does
the
policy
has
written
achieved
that
objective
risk
management
was
definitely
important?
Are
those
organizational
risk
mitigated
and
those
can
be
impropriety
BEC?
N
They
can
also
be
cost
inefficiency
or
inequities,
but
balancing
that
with
risk
operation
or
impact
operations
was
also
a
focus
and
because
of
this
cross-functional
group,
we're
able
to
to
hear
different
perspectives
from
across
the
county,
something
that
may
seem
relatively
straightforward
on
on
one
side
of
the
county
may
actually
impact
operations
on
on
another,
so
definitely
great
to
have
those
perspectives
there
and
then
also
comparison
to
peers.
So
we
started
this
process
by
doing
our
homework.
N
Looking
at
other
counties
in
what
what
changes
there
have
been
out
out
in
the
field
and
and
using
those
to
inform
our
decisions.
So
just
some
conclusions,
you
know
this.
This
cross-functional
group
did
come
together
to
review
the
p-card
and
travel
policies.
In
particular
those
policies
have
are
always
being
looked
at
and
considered
and
assessed.
You
know.
Every
year
we
picked
up
an
existing
policy
that
was
already
undergoing
an
assessment
process
for
our
review
and
what
we
discovered
is
looking
at
at
benchmarks
with
other
peers.
N
The
policies
in
place
covered
the
major
controls
and
risk
areas
fairly.
Well,
however,
there
were
some
updates
that
needed
to
be
made
start.
For
starters,
there's
a
lot
of
old
reference
to
legacy
systems.
As
I
mentioned,
we
had
a
pretty
decent
size
system
implementation
go
into
effect,
so
just
simply
updating
that
language
as
part
of
the
process,
however,
we
did
find
some
areas
for
improvement
based
on
our
new
management
expectations,
and
so
we
wanted
to
address
those
and
the
process.
N
We
use
we're
taking
those
recommendations,
presenting
them
out
to
the
management
team,
countywide
directors
and
departments
trying
to
gather
their
feedback
and
processing
it
through
the
review
team
and
tweak
making
tweaks
based
on
that,
so
we'll
dive
into
the
policies.
Now
we'll
start
off
with
meals
and
meetings,
the.
O
Meals
and
meetings
policy
was
not
a
policy
that
existed
at
the
county
level.
Prior
Health
and
Human
Services
developed
a
policy
under
the
direction
of
Jim
Holland
when
he
worked
for
Health
and
Human
Services
as
the
as
the
Human
Services
support
team,
director
and
so
we'd
look,
he
tasked
us
with
looking
at
what
we're
spending
on
food
and
how
we're
doing
it
and
and
when
we
should
be
doing
and
why
we
should
be
doing
it.
So
we
looked,
we
pulled
that
policy
back
out,
we
revised
and
we
recommended
for
for
the
county.
O
The
new
policy
establishes
guidelines
for
appropriate
events
and
activities,
examples
of
those
things.
That
is
not
a
comprehensive
list,
but
it
includes
meetings
of
the
board,
the
the
adviser
advisory
committees,
public
officials
and
community
members,
and
supporting
and
collaborating
in
our
program,
successes,
trainings
workshops,
webinars
and
seminars
and
meetings
with
community
members
regarding
collaboration
and
partnership
in
the
community.
It
also
establishes
requirements
for
documentation
of
these
events
and
outlines
unacceptable
uses
and
events.
The.
O
Travel
policy
was
had
last
been
touched
in
2012
with
some
minor
revisions,
but
really
hadn't
been
looked
at
in
almost
10
years,
so
there
were
a
lot
of
outdated
things
related
to
travel.
We,
we
travel
very
differently
than
we
did
ten
years
ago,
so
we
did
make
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
changes
around
the
world
were
living
in
now
and
how
we
book
travel,
how
we,
how
we
travel.
O
We
looked
at
our
per
diem
meal
allowances
and
incidental
expenses,
and
what
lodging
and
transportation
looks
like
now
and
and
bill
parameters
around
that
we
have
requirements
for
approval
foreign
travel.
We
looked
at
local
mileage
for
County
business.
We
also
build
in
at
the
request
of
the
county
manager,
specifics
about
the
count,
the
travel
at
the
county
manager,
the
assistant
county
manager
and
the
CFO,
and
how
that
reporting
needs
to
come
to
the
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
O
Oh
general
administrative
cleanup,
we
rude
outdated
references
to
our
legacy,
loss,
Lawson
system
and
we
removed
hard
coded
numbers.
They
have
changed
over
time.
The
GSA
rates
were
set
by
the
federal
government
evolved
on
an
annual
basis.
We
had
a
120
mile
per
day,
rule
removed,
which
seemed
somewhat
arbitrary
and
again,
like
I,
said,
the
approval
notice
is
required
for
the
travel
by
Board
of
Commissioners.
We
really
wanted
light
like
we
said
earlier.
Our
guiding
principle
was
to
allow
departments
to
do
what
they
need
to
do.
O
N
Moving
into
the
procurement
car
policy,
this
is
definitely
a
major
one.
This
is
a
program
that
has
a
lot
of
benefit
to
the
county,
but
also
has
some
risk,
and
so
it
requires
a
pretty
comprehensive
policy.
The
purpose
of
this
policy
is
to
provide
guidelines
for
the
use
and
administration
of
that
program
and
set
some
controls
and
measures
as
well
to
help
with
those
risks.
So
the
big
points
are
you
know:
how
does
a
procurement
card
get
requested?
What
are
the
training
requirements,
terms
and
conditions
and
reporting
structures
purchasing
guidelines?
N
What's
an
acceptable
and
unacceptable
use
of
that
card,
as
well
as
penalties
for
misuse?
Some
of
the
changes
that
we
recommended
after
review,
along
with
just
administrative
cleanup,
we
also
defined
some
of
the
roles
and
responsibilities
a
little
bit
more
cleanly.
We
added
some
tiers
for
monthly
limits
so
as
opposed
to
one
limit
being
used
for
everyone
by
default.
That
may
be
a
little
bit
more
than
is
necessary
for
some
use
cases.
We
wanted
to
set
some
tears
for
that.
N
We
required
some
written
requests
for
increases
to
those
limits
which
we
found
to
be
a
best
practice.
When
looking
at
peer
policies,
we
increased
the
training
requirements
so
there's
now
a
recurring
training
requirement
where
there
was
not
one
but
or
there
was
an
inactivity
clause
added.
So
if
you
don't
use
the
card
for
a
certain
period
of
time,
that
card
will
become
inactivated.
We
also
added
some
reporting
requirements
around
cards
that
are
issued
to
appointed
employees
by
the
board,
as
well
as
the
Board
of
Commissioners
I.
N
Think
our
open,
checkbook
initiative
will
actually
cover
this
very
well
so
go
above
and
beyond
the
policy,
but
we
did
want
to
put
that
in
there
and
then.
Lastly,
there
are
some
pre
audit
requirements,
specifically
defined
by
the
local
government
commission's
guidance,
which
we
wanted
to
add
in
there
as
well.
N
And
lastly,
but
not
least,
we
adopted
a
countywide
gift
card
policy,
and
so
the
purpose
of
this
policy
was
to
establish
a
policy
for
minimizing
or
eliminating
the
risks
that
are
known
to
be
associated
with
gift
cards,
while
also
trying
to
maintain
the
program
requirements
that
we
found.
Some
of
the
major
points
were,
you
know
off
the
bat
there
wasn't
an
existing
policy
outside
of
HHS.
That
des
specifically
talked
about
gift
cards,
so
we
found
that
to
be
a
bit
of
a
gap.
N
Procurement
card
policy
was
amended
to
exclude
using
those
for
gift
cards
at
all.
There
was
a
specific
policy
created
which
followed
that
HHS
example,
as
well
as
some
other
county
peers,
which
have
started
to
do
this.
Gift
cards
are
not
to
be
purchased
or
given
to
any
employee
in
the
county,
and
that
is
a
change.
I
think
there
was
some
historically
some
employee
appreciation
cases
that
existed.
Those
are
now
gone.
N
No
gift
cards
are
to
be
used
for
payment
for
goods
or
services,
and
then
we
did
look
at
eliminating
gift
cards
entirely
for
the
county,
and
that
is
still
something
that's
actively
under
consideration.
However,
what
we
found
were
there
were
some
use
cases
that
have
legitimate
purposes
that
is
difficult
for
us
in
our
role
to
say,
should
go
away.
So
what
we
did
was
we
adopted
a
procedure
where
any
gift
cards
that
are
be
to
be
procured
have
to
be
procured
centrally
through
a
gift
card
liaison.
N
This
is
an
approach
that
we
saw
in
peer
counties
as
well.
So
that's
that
makes
it
very
simple.
If
it's
happening
outside
of
this
one
lane,
then
it's
it's
not
okay,
and
then
we
limited
the
use
specifically
to
the
four
areas
that
we
identified
so
help.
Human
Services
has
a
use
case
for
pram
lis,
family
preservation
and
in
some
other
cases,
they're
I,
think
they're.
All
the
parties
involved
are
evaluating
to
say.
Do
we
really
need
to
use
this
as
an
Avenue
and
that's
something
that
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
moving
forward?
N
N
These
folks
are
often
of
lower
means
and
may
not
even
have
bank
accounts,
and
so
the
grant
programs
actually
specify
gift
cards
as
a
best
practice.
In
that
case,
and
then
the
service
foundation
also
has
some
foster
care
assistance
use
cases
there.
So
we
wanted
to
you,
know
kind
of
corral.
The
use
cases
identify
those
and
then
we'll
continue
to
evaluate
whether
what
other
options
we
have
moving
forward.
B
N
So
the
process
would
be,
if
you're,
in
a
department
that
has
a
authorized
use
case
for
those
gift
cards.
You
have
to
make
that
request
to
that
liaison,
which
would
be
our
procurement
manager.
That
request
contains
the
purpose
and
the
quantity
and
everything,
and
so
he's
actually
tasked
with
procuring
those,
and
there
are
reconciliations
that
take
place
at
two
checkpoints
along
the
way.
So
we
feel,
like
that's,
a
much
more
controlled
process.
That's
excellent
thanks.
N
So
that
takes
us
out
of
the
four
that
we've
talked
about
tonight
and
moves
us
into
the
next
steps.
So
unless
there
are
any
other
changes,
our
plan
is
to
make
those
policies
go
into
effect
as
of
right
now,
so
those
updated
versions
will
become
County
policy.
The
communications
team
have
been
great
all
the
way
through
this
process
and
they're
standing
by
ready
to
help
departments
get
up
to
speed
on
what
the
changes
are
and
what
those
impacts
are
to
them,
but,
more
importantly,
I
think:
there's
a
plan
to
conduct
periodic
follow-up
and
see.
Okay.
N
Now
that
we've
written
these
new
policies,
we
need
to
follow
up
with
folks
and
see
what
the
impact
has
actually
been
in
a
period
of
time
and
see
if
we
need
to
make
adjustments
or
and
measure
the
impact,
and
is
it
doing
the
things
we
intended?
There's
also
those
gatekeeper
roles
that
we
talked
about
as
well
and
so
I
won't
rehash
those.
But
we
are
allocating
some
additional
resources
within
the
finance
functions
specifically
to
make
sure
we're
monitoring,
policy,
adherence
and
transactional
analysis
in
the
best
way.
N
We
can
we're
developing
a
formal
review
structure
for
policies
in
the
county.
So
once
again,
these
these
ongoing
policy
reviews
are
just
now
being
structured
in
a
way
that
includes
you,
know
more
people
across
the
county,
we're
building
those
schedules
out.
So
this
won't
take.
You
know
this
will
happen
on
a
recurring
basis
and
that
schedule
will
be
predetermined
and
then,
lastly,
next
up
to
assess,
are
the
policies
you
see
listed
there.
So
formal
and
informal
bids
gas
cards,
petty
cash,
mobile
devices
and
and
the
list
goes
on.
N
D
To
thank
you
all
for
this
work
and
for
senior
leadership's
initiative
in
this
and
as
Mandy
started
off
the
presentation,
there
was
one
person
that
I've
used
our
system
and
I
think
all
the
changes
that
have
been
made.
Whistleblower
I,
think
the
best
thing
about
all
this
is
everything
is
so
black
and
white
that
no
longer
can
a
superior
influence,
a
subordinate
and
employee
and
expect
them
to
do
something
because
the
rules
are
outlined
is
clear
and
you've
given
safe
protections
for
people
who
have
an
issue.
So
thank
you.
C
C
A
A
One
of
these
a
couple-
these
are
just
about
the
kind
of
fairly
small
semantics,
but
dad
just
you
know
the
details
of
this
stuff.
You
know
we
need
to
make
sure
we
try
to
make
it
as
clear
as
we
can
on
the
so.
Some
of
the
new
policies
have
to
do
with
travel
by
commissioners
and
and
so
we're
gonna
have
this
policy
that
if
commissioners
are
gonna
travel
to
vents
other
than
like
the
county,
commissioner
Association
meeting
so
they're
sort
of
automatically.
A
If
you
want
to
go
to
those
that's
great
but
for
other
stuff,
we're
gonna
say
that
either
the
chair
or
vice
chair
needs
to
approve
it.
So
if
a
commissioner
wants
to
go
to
some
conference
or
something
like
that,
you
know
certainly
that's
that
can
be
good,
but
we
want
to
have
a
process
for
getting
at
the
chair
or
vice
chair
to
approve
that
correct.
That's.
A
So
just
semantics
in
that
I
think
in
the
last
sentence.
In
that
section
it
says
it
should
and
or
like
either
the
chair
and
where
the
vice
chair
should
do
it
I
think
it
should
just
be
or
right
so
that
you
don't
have
to
do
both
or
just
to
make
that
more
clear.
So
that
was
just
a
small
thing
and
the
other
question
I
guess
I
had
on
that
on
that
travel
item
is
in
that
also,
but
that
also
relates
to
the
county's
senior
staff
too
right.
A
A
And
so
question
on
that
in
terms
of
approval,
has
it
been
decided
exactly
the
mechanism
for
doing
that
like
is
there
gonna,
be
a
form
that
needs
to
be
signed,
or
it's
a
simple
email
or
sort
of
I'm
just
curious
about
the
details
of
that?
If
they've
been
worked
out
yet
or
if
that
sort
of
to
be
worked
out
well,.
C
It
will
be,
it
will
likely
happen
electronically
through
email,
but
we
will
want
a
record
of
that.
We
have
we,
as
we
have
experienced
in
this
first
week,
of
launching
our
new
financial
system.
Is
there's
really
no
way
for
you
all
to
do
approvals
within
that
system,
so
because
you're,
not
users
in
that
system
on
a
regular
basis,
so
I
think
an
email
that
shows
you've
been
notified
of
our
intent
to
travel
and
there's
actually
being
approval
received
by
the
chair
of
vice-chair
okay.
A
B
C
A
Great,
let
me
see,
and
just
one
of
their
kind
of
detailed
question
on
this
in
terms
of
the
travel.
So
if
you're
gonna
go
travel
somewhere,
of
course,
whatever
mode
of
transportation
you're
using
is
there's
that
cost,
but
then
there's
also
the
event
you're
going
to
and
so
you're
like.
So
if
we're
going
to
a
conference,
for
example,
did
those
approval
processes
also
apply
to
the
event
you're
traveling
for
as
well
as
the
actual
sort
of
cost
of
transportation
back
and
forth?
Yes?
C
B
One
question
on
you
know:
there's
going
to
be
training
and
you
know
you're
gonna
be
my.
It's
not
really
concern
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
process
doesn't
get
in
the
way
of
things
that
is
necessary
for
for
you
or
others
to
do
as
far
as
training.
So
you
know
waiting
on
an
approval
to
go
to
you
know.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
work
through
that,
so
it
doesn't
interfere
with
the
training
or
with
conferences
that
are
necessary
and
needed.
I.
C
Think
that
when
both
four
CFO
and
on
I
think
that
be
true
for
the
clerk
to
look
at
our
schedules,
they're
fairly
set
by
either
finance
conference-
is
that
CFI
goes
to
on
an
annual
basis
or
ICMA
for
the
county
manager.
So
don't
think
he'd
be
difficult
to
give
those
to
you
in
advance,
but
I
do
feel
like
you're
all
accessible
in
the
chair
and
vice
chair
accessible.
If
something
came
up,
that
was
more
of
an
emergence
neat.
B
Just
want
to
thank
I
mean
that
the
combination
of
the
peer
review,
the
way
you
put
it
together,
best
practices.
All
of
that
it
was
really.
It
was
very
good.
I
mean
I'm,
extremely
pleased.
It's
it's.
You
know
it's
in
line
with
best
practices
with
some
businesses
that
I've
been
associated
with,
and
it's
very
you
know
it's
just
very
good.
I'm.
C
Not
sure
about
sure,
if
you're
in
the
room,
but
do
want
to
make
the
point
that
the
workday
system
provides
us
with
more
capacity
to
audit
for
irregularities
and
identify
trends
or
outliers
that
require
more
in-depth
review.
But
mr.
Flores
also
worked
to
realign
a
position
in
his
department
that
will
take
on
that
more
traditional
gatekeeper
role.
Looking
for
using
those
reports
to
help
identify
areas
that
might
need
to
go
to
the
internal
auditor
for
further
review.
So
mr.
Flores
worked
out
a
way
to
do
that
within
his
existence.
I.
B
Think
it's
important
to
know
that
a
gatekeeper
function
is
not
just
to
find
to
find
those
things
or
to
catch
someone
or
something
like
that.
But
it's
to
improve
the
process.
It's
to
see.
You
know
where
the
or
the
bumps
are
and
where
the
exceptions
are,
and
once
those
exceptions
are
highlighted,
then
you
know
you
have
the
ability
to
change
and
change
fast.
C
B
C
L
A
B
P
Widening
of
I
26
from
the
US
25
south
of
Hendersonville
to
I-40
I
240
south
of
Asheville,
is
a
high
priority
project
for
NCDOT,
as
I'm
sure.
You
know
we're
here
today
to
focus
on
one
specific
aspect
of
the
project:
the
replacement
of
the
bridges
over
the
French
Broad
River
and
their
potential
impact
on
River
users.
I
26
will
be
widened
to
four
lanes
in
both
directions
from
u.s.
25
Asheville
highway
in
Henderson
County
up
to
I
40
I
240
in
Buncombe
County.
P
This
includes
the
two
bridges
over
the
French
Broad
River
that
will
be
replaced
with
one
span.
It
was
necessary
to
determine
the
methods
of
building
the
new
bridge
and
taking
down
the
old
ones
before
construction
begins.
It's
also
important
for
NCDOT
to
implement
safety
procedures
and
alternatives
for
River
users
during
the
project.
None
of
the
construction
will
impact
safety
or
usage
downstream
of
the
bridge.
P
Ncdot
will
provide
a
safe
passage
lane
in
the
water
for
River
users
that
will
include
floating
navigational
aids
to
reduce
the
risk
of
accidents.
Ncdot
will
also
require
the
contractor
to
install
a
catchment
device
on
the
structures
to
prevent
construction
material
from
falling
on
users
or
into
the
water.
P
While
developing
these
initial
safety
plans
NCDOT
found,
there
is
no
easy
way
to
provide
portage
around
the
construction
zone.
The
closest
public
pull
out
is
at
Bank
Creek
River
Park,
approximately
one
mile
upstream
of
the
bridges
users
would
then
have
to
drive
from
there
about
six
miles
on
NC
191
Brevard
Road,
to
reach
the
next
public
pool
and
put
in
at
hominy
Creek
River
Park.
P
P
Ncdot
recognizes
that
boat
trips
can
begin
well
upstream.
As
far
as
the
headwaters
in
Transylvania
County
public
access
points
are
located
at
Westfeldt
Park
and
a
horseshoe
park
in
Henderson
County,
and
at
bent
Creek
River
Park
in
Buncombe
County
working
with
appropriate
partners.
Ncdot
will
play
signage
at
boat
access
locations
to
alert
river
users
to
the
construction
downstream.
P
Ncdot
will
also
advise
the
public
through
other
means
such
as
the
website
and
social
media
boats
will
be
need
to
will
be
funneled
into
safe
passage
lanes,
because
causeways
are
needed
for
the
bridge,
replacement
and
construction
to
reach
those
causeways
access.
Roads
will
be
built
alongside
I
26
within
NCDOT,
right
of
way,
using
retaining
walls
to
stay
off
private
property
and
protect
natural
resources.
P
There
will
be
one
causeway
on
each
side
of
the
river.
On
the
east
side.
The
causeway
will
be
completely
installed
during
the
first
stage
of
construction.
It
will
run
about
318
feet
along
the
bank
and
extend
52
feet
into
the
river.
It
will
be
removed
as
construction
progresses.
On
the
west
side,
the
causeway
will
be
built
in
stages
until
it
reaches
320
feet
in
length
and
extends
62
feet
from
the
riverbank.
P
P
P
Hydraulics
experts
have
examined
how
the
causeway
will
it
impact
River
users.
River
levels,
excuse
me
n
depth,
and
the
result
is
that
less
than
one
inch
during
average
rain
events
and
a
1
foot
increase
at
the
causeway
during
a
100-year
storm
event
will
occur.
So
that's
less
than
1
inch
during
an
average
rain
event.
The
river
will
come
up
and
about
a
foot
during
a
100-year
storm
event,
with
the
temporary
caused
ways
in
place.
P
A
100-year
event
would
raised
the
river
level
10
inches
about
a
half
mile
upriver
and
that
would
have
no
new
impacts
to
existing
buildings.
These
buildings
are
already
in
the
100-year
floodplain.
The
rise
will
decrease
with
distance
to
6
inches
at
1
mile
upstream
and
2
inches
2
miles
upstream,
before
completely
dissipating
3
miles
upstream
of
the
bridge.
P
Thank
you
for
listening
to
our
update
on
the
replacement
of
the
I
26
bridges
over
the
French
Broad
River,
and
there
are
potential
effects
on
River
users,
River,
dependent
businesses
and
upstream
properties.
We
will
be
conducting
small
group
meetings
to
inform
other
stakeholders
of
these
plans.
In
addition,
a
public
meeting
for
the
entire
project
will
be
held
next
Monday.
This
coming
Monday
April
16th
from
4
to
7
p.m.
at
Biltmore,
Baptist
Church,
a
local
officials,
informational
meeting,
which
you
already
have
received.
The
invitation
too,
will
be
held
beforehand
from
2
to
3
p.m.
B
A
A
A
P
I
A
P
The
causeways
are
there
for
as
work
pads,
two-stage
cranes
and
other
items
needed
to
construct
or
demolish
the
bridge
and
as
work
progresses,
they
will
be
removed.
The
one
side
gets
fully
put
in
in
stage
one
and
it's
removed,
as
it
goes
the
other
side,
because
it's
perching
from
the
opposite
direction.
It
will
get
completely
built
out
and
then
it
will
be
removed
at
the
you
know.
At
the
end,
mm-hmm.
P
Q
Chairman
commissioners,
tonight
I'm
asking
your
approval
of
the
fiscal
year.
2018
financial
audit
contract
in
January
the
county
decided
to
go
request
to
do
a
request
for
proposal
for
a
new
audit
infirm
as
it
had
been
four
years
since
we
had
done
such
a
thing.
The
selection
committee
was
made
up
of
six
people,
which
was
three
people
from
our
audit
committee
and
three
County
staff
members.
Q
We
received
five
proposals,
I
might
say
they
were
all
very
good
proposals
that
we
received
from
each
of
those
firms
and
we
narrowed
it
down
to
three
firms
to
interview
and
I
will
say
that
one
of
those
firms
that
we
did
interview
was
our
current
auditor
goo
Killian.
Ultimately,
the
selection
committee
believed
that
the
best
fit
for
Buncombe
County
was
Clifton,
Larsen,
Allen
and
also
known
as
CLA.
Some
information
about
Clifton,
Larsen
and
Allen,
to
which
I
will
say
CLA
from
here
on
out,
is
that
they
are
a
top
ten
firm.
Q
They
I
believe
they
are
the
ninth
largest
accounting
firm
in
the
country.
They
have
more
than
55,000
professionals
in
over
100
locations.
They
have
over
600
professionals
dedicated
specifically
to
state
and
local
governments.
They
are
ranked
number
one
in
the
nation
in
performing
single
audits
and
for
those
of
you
who
do
know
what
don't
know
what
a
single
audit
is.
That
is
a
federal
requirement
as
part
of
our
regular
financial
audit
that
has
to
be
performed
and
I
think
assistant,
county
manager,
Jim
Holland,
could
attest
to
that.
They
are
quite
grueling.
Q
They
have
over
2,100
governmental
clients.
Buncombe
County
will
actually
be
the
first
client
of
theirs
first
County
client
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
Although
they
have
done
work
for
the
state
treasurer's
office,
other
counties
just
as
a
benchmark
for
the
the
number
of
counties
they
do,
they
do
several
counties,
but
it
includes
in
states
like
Colorado
Virginia,
Baltimore,
Maryland,
Florida,
Arizona
Illinois.
The
contract
amount
is
418
thousand
dollars
in
his
first
year,
and
that
is
sort
of
an
overview
of
that.
Q
I
would
like
to
give
thanks
to
our
controller
Jennifer
Durrett,
who
coordinated
this
Auto
selection
process
and
also
I
would
like
to
give
thanks
to
the
three
audit
committee
members
that
we
had
who
also
served
on
the
selection
committee,
which
was
Dana
Yeltsin,
Kendra,
Ferguson
and
Mike
nip
shield.
The
search
committee
presented
its
recommendation
to
the
Audit
Committee
last
month
in
its
meeting
and
upon
that
recommendation.
The
audit
committee
did
recommend
that
this
audit
contract
come
before
you
to
be
approved,
and
so
with
that
I'm
glad
to
entertain
any
of
your
questions.
G
A
G
G
This
particular
item
that
you're
talking
about
here
with
the
local
government
and
all
that
is
going
to
be
pertaining
to
those
cards
as
well.
So
I'd
like
to
know
why
you
didn't
vote
if
it's
going
to
be
a
board
action
for
policy
changes
on
cards
and
the
things
that
Mandy's
team
presented,
because
this
here
is
just
part
of
of
that.
O
G
A
All
right
so
I'll
take
a
stab
at
answering
the
question.
I
think
the
the
reason
that
the
previous
issue
did
not
require
vote
is
that
their
administrative
policies,
and
so
the
staff,
do
you
have
the
authority
to
amend
administrative
policies
from
time
to
time
and
they've
proposed
that
and
but
they
did
want
to
make
the
public
in
the
Commission
aware
of
what
they
were
and
seek
feedback,
but
did
not
require
a
vote
of
the
commissioners
for
those
administrative
changes.
Q
A
So
and
which
is
what's
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda:
the
electronic
payments?
Okay,
we'll
get
to
that
we'll
get
to
that
next,
all
right!
So
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
any
questions
or
additional
comments.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
Mr.
flora,
you
want
to
take
the
next
one
on
the
electronic
payments,
so.
Q
The
next
is
a
resolution
authorizing
Buncombe
County
to
engage
in
electronic
payments,
and
so
this
is
something
that
we've
probably
been
doing
for
the
past
twenty
years
and
it's
a
situation
where
the
resolution
is
about
the
state
claim
catch
up
with
technology.
So
last
month
we
received
a
memo
from
the
Department
or
the
local
government
Commission
in
regarding
some
out
outdated
rules,
but
also
providing
updated
rules
around
electronic
payments
and
specific
to
the
electronic
payments
is
the
pre
audit
requirement,
and
so
I
don't
know.
Q
If,
if
you
understand
what
a
pre
audit
is
or
a
pre
audit
certificate,
that
is
where
I
as
the
finance
director
and
certifying
that
there
is
budget
and
funding
available
to
make
a
purchase
and
in
certain
electronic
payments
it's
difficult
to
have
that
electronic
certificate,
which
is
actually
a
very
specific
language
and
a
stamp
on
a
document.
It
is
very
too
hard
to
have
that
pre
audit
certificate
on
a
purchase
on
like
a
p-card
purchase,
because
someone
was
going
to
a
store
and
making
a
purchase,
and
so
I'm
not
there
with
them
to
certify
that.
Q
Yes,
there's
there's
budget
there,
and
so
what
this
is
is
updating
rules
that
allows
us
to
exempt
ourselves
from
the
pre
audit
certificate,
not
the
pre
audit
process
and
so
I
wanna.
Make
that
clear.
It's
just
it's
just
that
language
that
has
to
go
on
a
receipt.
So
basically,
in
essence,
for
the
last
number
of
years,
all
states
in
North
Carolina
have
been
out
of
compliance
with
laws
around
the
pre
audit
certificates.
Q
So
this
is
a
very
administrative
in
nature.
We
have
those
policies
in
place
and
in
fact
we
have
to
make
very
few
changes
to
the
processes
we
already
had
existing,
because
we
really
were
already
checking
to
make
sure
that
we
had
documented
sufficient
budget
and
funds
prior
to
peak
our
purchases.
Now
we
just
actually
have
to
include
it
into
our
electronic
system,
which
is
something
that
we
will
be
able
to
do
with
our
with
our
new
financial
system
workday.
So
with
that,
I
would
also
entertain
any
questions
you
might
have
so.
B
Q
So
so
really
the
guidance
came
from
the
local
government,
Commission
and
I
think
we
all
had
that
discussion
that
no
one
was
going
to
understand
the
really
sort
of
the
administrative
minutia
requires
in
in
doing
pre,
honest,
but
this
this
is
what
basically,
what
we're
doing
is.
We
were
authorizing
the
county
to
to
make
electronic
payments
and
then
set
up
policies
and
procedures
around
that,
which
is
something
we've
already
done.
Okay,.
Q
In
this
resolution
you
are
giving
me
that
responsibility
to
do
it,
but
it
is
a
team
of
my
folks
that
they're
actually
establishing
those
policies
and
and
it's
and
and
the
local
government
Commission
is
very
specific
about
the
rules.
So
they
give
us
the
guidance
from
the
state,
and
we
are
just
making
sure
that
we
take
those
policies
and
procedures
and
put
it
in
our
update
our
policies
and
procedures
and
make
sure
that
we
adhere
to
those
okay.
B
So
no
offense
intended,
but
who
are
the
rules
so
specific
that
they
check
that?
That's
the
check
up
on
you
or
does
someone
else
check?
You
know
to
make
sure
that
the
policies
and
procedures
that
you're
putting
in
in
place
are
in
line
with
with
the
the
statutes
or
someone's
approving
those,
because
those
aren't
coming
back
to
us
right
right,
right,
okay,.
Q
B
Q
Q
A
Q
J
A
F
A
D
H
A
A
I'll
make
a
motion
to
appoint
Thomasin,
Davis,
Sarah,
Bergeron
and
Susan
Garrett,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We
now
come
to
public
comment
at
the
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
questions
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager.
Word.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
any
matters
during
public
comment.
A
This
is
the
public's
chance
to
speak
to
the
commission
and
the
board
reserves
to
write
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
issues
that
we
had
previously
voted
on
and
already
had
specific
comment
on
earlier
in
the
meeting.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public?
You
would
like
to
comment
at
this
time.
Yes,
sir,
come
on
up
and
please
share
your
name
and
where
you
live.
R
My
name
is
John
Johnson
and
I
have
a
farm
and
sandy
mush,
where
I've
lived
since
1977
I'm
coming
to
the
Commission
to
basically
say
something
that
you
probably
are
very
well
aware
of,
and
that
is
that
the
internet
system
in
the
rural
areas
of
our
County
really
stink.
There
are
more
than
three
times
less
than
the
power
of
the
urban
and
suburban
area.
Nevertheless,
the
farmers
in
our
area
and
I
won.
You
need
internet,
more
and
more
for
management,
best
practices,
research
and
marketing.
R
The
young
people
in
the
county
also
need
internet
more
and
more
because
the
school
lessons
required
of
them,
the
people
in
the
county,
where
I
live
a
lot
of
them,
work
out
of
their
homes
and
they
need
the
inner
and
I'm
one
of
those
also,
and
they
need
the
Internet
to
to
do
that,
to
upload
large
documents
to
manage
websites
and
so
forth,
where
I'm
going
with
this
I'm
sure.
You
are
aware
you
all
have
approved
in
your
last
budget.
The
San
Dimas
community,
centers
hotspot
and
I.
R
Just
really
basically
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
because
I
have
often
had
to
go
there,
because
my
system,
which
is
only
has
three
MPS's,
we
just,
would
not
was
too
slow
to
deal
with
the
material
that
I
needed
to
get
up
so
I
drove
over
to
the
Center.
For
that
to
happen
on
more
than
one
occasion
and
I
know,
many
of
my
friends
and
neighbors
have
done
the
same.
So
basically
in
a
nutshell,
I'm
hoping
that
you
will
renew.
That
is
the
next
time
it
comes
for
a
vote.
Thank
you
all.
S
Good
evening,
commissioners
and
chairman
lumen,
my
name
is
michael
harney.
I
was
last
in
front
of
you,
February,
6th
and
I.
Thank
you,
chairman
Belcher
Commissioner
Belcher,
rather
for
inviting
the
public
to
talk
about
needle
exchange
and
the
importance
of
it
in
our
community.
So
this
is
second
lesson.
I
want
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
history
about
it
and
I
could
talk
for
hours,
but
with
three
minutes.
I'm
gonna
have
to
keep
coming
back.
S
I
want
to
tell
you
that
in
1993
Commissioner
fryer,
your
brother
was
very
influential
in
providing
me
access
to
Marty
prairie
chicken,
who
was
the
prevention
educator
at
the
Western
North
Carolina
aids
project.
You
know
that
I
work
at
the
Western
North
Carolina
aids
project
I
operate
the
needle
exchange
program
Asheville
and
still
teach
at
both
a
BTech
in
a
Blue
Ridge
community
colleges.
S
So
it
was
art
fryer
there
now
deceased,
but
very
gracious
gentleman
who
forced
me
to
go
and
speak
to
Marty
prairie
chicken
I
made
a
20%
donation
from
some
necklaces
that
I
was
selling
at
scandals,
one
of
our
local
gay
bars
and
now
a
dance
club
very
famous
in
this
community
all
those
years
ago
in
1993,
so
I.
Thank
you,
sir,
for
sharing
him
with
us,
but
had
I
not
met
him.
I
would
never
have
known
about
needle
exchange
and
the
importance
of
it
to
our
community.
S
So,
24
years
later,
we
still
haven't
come
to
the
conclusion
that
we
need
to
fund
it
in
a
way
that
is
sufficient,
and
this
is
how
I
see
needle
exchange
the
fact
that
people
don't
have
access
to
clean
needles
sometimes
seems
a
tragedy
to
me
as
a
public
health
issue.
To
me
it
is
a
primary
issue
of
public
health.
Secondary
issues
of
legality,
of
morality,
of
financial
are
all
secondary
issues
to
the
fact
that
people
should
have
access
and
a
blanket
protection.
S
If
we
have
needles
in
our
possession-
and
so
I
am
very
grateful
to
sheriff
and
Duncan,
he
actually
bought
us.
Some
clippers
for
the
needles
and
they
went
so
fast,
I'd
love
to
have
another
thousand
of
them
if
he
had
them
in
his
budget
to
send
him
to
us.
But
people
found
them
very
useful
in
clipping
off
the
needles
which
also
reduced
the
risk
of
other
people
being
stuck
by
needles
in
our
community.
So
that
is
really
important
to
us.
S
I
feel
like
we
are,
are
losing
an
opportunity
to
gather
some
of
the
solar
power
on
the
the
top
of
what
you
know
used
to
be
the
BB&T
building
on
the
top
of
Walmart's,
on
the
top
of
hospitals
on
the
top
of
schools
and
anywhere
else.
So
those
are
some
things
that
are
on
my
mind
tonight
and
I'll
see
you
again
thank.
T
My
name
is
valaria
watson
and
I
will
disclose
that.
I'm
a
new
commissioner
on
the
historic,
Resources,
Commission
and
I
always
get
a
little
troubled.
When
people
say
they
don't
see
race
in
this
as
an
african-american
I'll,
soon
be
70
and
I
have
not
I've,
always
been
impacted
and
limited
by
the
structures
of
white
supremacy.
T
So
if,
if
we
don't
admit
that
it
exists
and
it
exists
in
all
of
our
systems
and
that's
not
a
criticism,
but
how
can
we
deal
with
the
problem
if
we
refuse
to
admit
that
it
exists
now,
if
you're
white
and
you
live
in
privilege,
you
may
not
know
that,
but
part
of
that
has
been
our
fault.
I
was
brought
up
that
you
didn't
tell
away
people
because
they
didn't
want
to
hear
it.
I
was
brought
up
in
segregation,
so
it's.
T
This
is
a
new
time,
we're
speaking
and
people
who
have
been
quieted,
sometimes
don't
know
if
they're
shouting
too
loud
or
they
have
to
speak.
You
know
what's
their
inside
voice,
so
we're
attempting
to
find
that
voice
and
to
have
discussions.
So
we're
not
polarized
and
you
know,
there's
not
just
the
activists
and
then
the
good
people
and
the
police.
It
just
doesn't
exist
like
that.
I
live
in
Leicester
half
the
people,
I
hang
out
with
are
good
old
boys
out
in
the
country
and
those
that's
my
family.
T
So
I
want
us
to
just
start
seeing
each
other
as
people
who
are
invested
in
living
here
and
making
asheville
live
up
to
the
story
it
promotes
about
all
of
us.
You
know
the
good
stuff
and
we
can
do
this,
but
we're
trying
to
have
conversations
so
I
work
with
black
lives
matter.
I
work
with
a
surge
but
I
also
work
with
the
city
and
I've,
been
working
with
sister
cities
since
2006
Bri
and
we're
bringing
a
delegation
of
Nigerians
here
again.
T
So
we're
doing
things
to
build
a
foundation
of
support
for
the
African
American
community,
who
don't
even
know
their
African
okay,
because
that's
what
slavery
did
to
us
and
so
I
feel
like
you
guys
need
to
go
to
a
surge
or
have
some
diversity
training.
So
you
really
understand
the
issues
and
you
stop
taking
it
personal.
It's
it's
not
personal,
but
it
becomes
personal
every
day.
U
How's
it
going
folks,
my
name
is
Britt.
I
live
in
Leicester
North,
Carolina
I
didn't
intend
to
speak
today,
but
I
heard
that
you
don't
see
race
and
that
really
made
me
angry.
You
know
and
I'm
just
gonna
be
honest.
I'm
gonna
try
to
control
my
anger.
I
have
some
notes
here.
You
don't
see
color
and
that's
the
stat
that
stems
from
white
fear
and
white
supremacy
it.
It
erases
the
reality
that
my
partner
faces
every
day,
the
other
people
of
color
Mexican
black
Indian
Pakistani,
whatever.
U
If
you're,
not
white,
you're
out
in
this
town,
you
are
a
target
by
people
who
aren't
even
aware
of
their
own
privilege
and
their
own
disease
in
their
mind.
It's
a
disease,
it
forces
you
to
know
it
blinds
you
to
see
people
and
what
they
face.
Every
day
you
get
to
go
to
the
grocery
store
every
day
when
you
need
without
getting
pulled
over
without
you
get
across
the
street.
Without
anybody
harassing
you,
that's
white
supremacy
and
me
calling
you
out
on
it.
U
U
That
is,
how
white
supremacy
works,
so
I
I'm,
I'm
speechless.
You
know,
and
you
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself
frankly,
because
you
have
so
much
power
and
so
much
in
your
voice,
just
by
being
being
able
to
sit
up
here
and
say:
I
Ornette,
you
you're
with
a
stroke
of
the
pen.
What
were
you
doing
in
the
70s
in
urban
renewal?
U
I,
don't
even
know
I
want
to
find
out,
though
I
want
to
find
out
who
is
still
in
power,
who
is
still
who's
still
accountable
to
that
time,
when
we
thought
it
was
okay
to
kick
people
out
of
their
homes
and
what?
If,
what
have
we
done
as
a
city?
I
am
from
this
town,
my
mother's
family's
from
this
town,
so
more
and
more
I'm
ready
to
wake
up
and
get
to
work.
So
thank
you
all
for
your
time.
V
I've
gotten
used
to
this
buzzer
and
it
goes
really
quick,
so
I'm
gonna
talk,
kind
of
fast,
okay,
I
asked
everyone
in
this
room,
close
your
eyes,
close
them
and
keep
them
closed.
The
whole
portion
that
I'm
talking
I
do
that,
because
I
wanna
take
race
off
the
table,
not
that
I
don't
see
it,
but
it
has
no
no
argument
where
I
stand
right
now,
so
here
my
words,
not
what
I
look
like
and
how
I
carry
myself.
So
what
I'm
here
to
say
is
opioid
epidemic.
V
It's
been
almost
our
five-month
anniversary,
since
we
all
became
friends
all
of
y'all
and
you
may
not
know,
but
behind
your
backs,
I
call
you
all
my
best
friends,
because
the
county
has
been
stepping
up
for
Candler
icy
Mountain
ability
presents
out
and
Candler
a
lot
more
I
see
the
building
of
a
hub.
That
is
absolutely
beautiful.
You
awarded
our
library
money,
you
awarded
our
parks,
money,
I
love,
you
all,
and
you
are
my
best
friend,
even
though
mr.
brownie
we
haven't,
met
firsthand
or
miss
Jasmine
you
either
now
I
give
you
accolades
for
that.
V
However,
I
have
to
say
it's
not
enough.
I'm
coming
to
you,
our
County
Commissioners,
because
I've
been
Asheville
I
have
been
to
this
city.
I've
tried
to
do
everything
that
you
guys
do
even
go
into
the
meeting
where
both
of
you
guys
sat
down
at
the
table
and
there's
a
huge
lack
of
communication
and
I'm,
not
pointing
blame
I'm,
not
taking
sides.
What
I'm
coming
to
you,
because
I've
gone
to
Asheville,
to
tell
them
that
the
Transit
System
is
not
okay.
My
understanding,
Asheville
city
limits
go
to
the
ink
of
red
light.
Mr.
V
Belcher,
you
know
where
that
is,
but
I
tell
them
that
that's
2.6
miles
that
the
buses
don't
cover,
but
you
go
past
city
limits
ten
miles
to
Black
Mountain.
That's
not
okay!
For
me,
but
they're
not
willing
to
take
responsibility
for
that
part
of
the
city.
But
our
Commissioner
is
here
our
county
commissioners.
V
You
guys
have
stepped
up
and
I
appreciate
that
so
I'm
more
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
talk
to
you
guys
on
behalf
of
Candler,
because
I
was
told
to
advocate
for
the
bus
lines
because,
in
my
opinion,
that's
where
it
comes
down
to
with
opioid
epidemic
people
in
Canada.
They
can't
get
to
the
parole
officers
we
can't
get
to
court.
We
can't
come
be
a
part
of
these
discussions.
We
can't
come
be
part
of
all
these
boards
because
we
don't
have
that
public
transportation.
Not
your
fault
again.
V
You
guys
are
stepping
up
to
the
table
which
I
appreciate
greatly,
but
if
we
can't
get
out
of
Candler
into
where
the
jobs
are
and
all
that,
how
are
we
going
to
benefit?
How
we're
gonna
prosper,
how
we're
going
to
be
sustainable
for
the
future?
We
can't
do
that
ourselves.
One
minute
left
that
does
go
fast
again.
I
just
wanted
to
say
against
mr.
Rice's
recommendations
that
I
did
want
to
give
you
accolades
for
what
you
have
done,
but
just
know
that
it's
not
enough
and
mr.
V
Belcher
I
will
be
in
your
words
to
heart
that
I
will
be
a
fly
on
the
ear
that
I
will
continue
to
be.
Annoying
I
will
continue
to
be
in
the
faces
of
the
people
who
matter
and
make
these
decisions,
because
Candler
can't
get
out
here
also
against
the
opioid
epidemic.
Everything
I
do
goes
back
to
that
next,
Monday
April,
16th
I'll
be
meeting
with
Mount
Morenci
we've
been
working
with
the
faith
communities
in
order
to
pull
together
to
plan
stuff
for
Candler
and
we're
planning
a
drop-off
point
on
April
28th.
Mr.
V
Belcher
I
was
told
to
call
you
I
thought
that
was
little
rude.
You
as
well
mr.
Presley,
so
I'm
Vitol
of
our
County
Commissioners,
come
out
to
Mount
Moran,
see
get
free
food
everybody's
welcome.
You
won't
be
preached
at
we'll,
be
getting
together
about
the
opioid
epidemic
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
that
drop-off
point
started.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I.
Thank
you
for
everything
that
you
continue
to
do
for
your
community,
for
your
people
of
Candler
just
know
we
still
need
more
and
we
need
to
work
together
continuously.
W
He
jokes
about
killing
Americans
your
constituents
that
exercise
their
natural
right
recognizes
pre-existing
under
the
Second
Amendment
for
self-defense
I
would
ask
if
you
think
the
person
is
fit
to
hold
the
position
of
Sheriff
the
highest
loss
law
enforcement
officer
in
the
county
while
holding
the
law
is
supposed
to
uphold
in
such
contempt.
I
would
remind
you
that
the
Second
Amendment
very
purpose
is
for
Americans
to
protect
themselves
from
out-of-control
government
officials
such
as
those
that
they
believe
they
are
the
law
and
can
threaten
harm
to
citizens
record
size.
W
They
have
you
know,
it'll
natural
rise
to
self-defense
I
demand.
This
person
be
terminated
immediately
or
funding
be
withheld
from
a
BTEC
until
his
person
is
held
to
account
I
hope
the
voters
will
recognize
the
the
threat
to
their
safety
as
well.
The
safety
of
his
officers
by
this
divisive
candidate
law
enforcement
is
certainly
not
held
in
very
high
esteem
by
a
large
percentage
of
the
community.
W
G
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman,
we
were
bored
mom,
go
back
to
Mandy's
policy
stuff
that
she
presented
here
with
her
team,
and
my
question
is
if
these
are
policies
they're
adopted
by
the
board,
or
is
that
her
administrative
policies
and
they
don't
hold
no
weight
with
the
board,
which
is
it
now?
If
it
is
policies,
not
it
sure
sounds
like
that
to
me.
Why
wasn't
he
voted
on
tonight
now?
My
concern
is
that
I've
made
some
requests
and
I've
got
most
of
them
and
there's
two
requests.
It's
still
outstanding
did
I
have
a
gun.
G
One
is
a
personnel
that
I
requested
back
in
December,
I
haven't
got
it
and
it's
being
held
up
by
the
attorney
and
the
HR
and
Mandy
knows
about
it
as
well.
Now
they
said
when
the
new
system
went
in,
that
some
of
this
data
wouldn't
be
there
anymore
and
I
want
to
know
I
want
my
requests
filled.
The
new
system
goes
in.
G
G
You
hear
me,
that's
how
they
get
in
and
that's
where
they
start
at,
because
if
you
lie
about
one
little
thing,
you
lie
about
a
bigot,
so
I
want
my
public
information,
I'm
saying
it
right
out
and
you
can
talk
with
the
attorney
and
you
can
talk
with
the
HR.
You
can
talk
of
Mandy,
it's
all
in
writing
and
I'd
like
to
have
it
fulfilled.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
K
Hello,
my
name
is
Diana
Starr
I'm
a
20-year
resident
of
Buncombe
County.
My
remarks
urges
a
very
brief
tonight.
I
just
want
to
thank
and
acknowledge
and
applaud
the
commissioners,
Beach
Ferrara,
frost
and
Whitesides
for
their
efforts
and
attempts
to
bring
genuine
integrity,
transparency
and
accountability
to
the
sheriff's
office.
I
will
see
submitting
further
comments
in
writing.
Thank
you
very
much.
All.
A
Sorry
I
do
have
a
short
announcement
to
make.
Yes
there
it
is
on
April
17th
at
5:00
p.m.
will
be
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
Board
of
County
Commissioners.
Here
200
College
Street
room
three
to
six
and
on
April
24th
at
12:30
p.m.
there
will
be
a
strategic
partnership
grant
presentation
at
202,
College
Street
room
three
to
six.
Thank
you
and
we
do
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session
this
evening
and
mr.
free.
Would
you
remind
us
what
its
topic.
E
A
B
B
Commissioner
White's,
as
many
many
others
know,
know
him
as
a
pastor
and
in
a
missionary
and
and
led
the
broadcast
of
two
local
radio
stations
for
a
long
time
and
had
many
conversations
here
in
a
very
in
a
very
pleasant
way
and
and
he
he
was
an
example
of
his
faith
to
the
community
in
leadership
and
cared
about
Buncombe,
County
and-
and
we
were
very
sorrowful
for
that
loss
and
extend
our
condolences
to
his
his
his
family
and
their.
The
arrangements
are
later
this
week.
Attenders
rice,
Thank,
You
chairman
thank.