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From YouTube: Commissioners' Briefing (July 21, 2020)
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Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' Briefing from July 21, 2020.
A
Go
ahead
and
call
this
july
21st
briefing
of
the
commission
meeting
to
order,
and
let's
take
a
quick
look
at
the
agenda
for
this
meeting,
we
do
need
to
switch
the
first
item
around
the
I-26
aesthetics
discussion.
We're
going
to
someone
had
to
run
go,
get
some
more
information
for
that
presentation
for
technology
related
reasons,
so
we'll
take
that
up
a
second
we'll
so
we'll
start
off
with
don
warren's
presentation
on
the
general
fund.
A
A
Great,
very
good
and
so
we'll
start
a
regular
meeting
at
5..
I
do
anticipate
we're
going
to
have
a
closed
session
meeting
to
discuss
a
personnel
issue
and
that
I
think
we'll
do
that
after
we
conclude
our
regular
business
at
the
commission
meeting
at
five
after
the
five
o'clock
meeting
is
done
all
right.
Any
questions
about
the
agenda
very
good.
Well,
I'm
gonna
invite
don
warren
to
come
up
and
talk
to
us
about
our
general
fund
balance
policy
and
give
us
an
update.
B
B
So
the
first
change
the
current
language
states
that
the
north
carolina
treasurer
recommends
that
we
have
a
fund
balance
of
eight
percent.
However,
the
county
is
more
restrictive,
requiring
a
minimum
unallocated
general
fund,
balance
of
15
of
total,
actual
expenditures
and
transfers.
So
the
proposed
language
changes
that,
from
a
minimum
of
15
percent
to
a
range
of
between
15
and
20
of
the
total,
actual
expenditures
and
transfers.
B
B
B
What
my
goal
is
is
anything
that
was
over
20
would
automatically
be
transferred.
We
could
build
up
funds
in
there
and
then
we
wouldn't
have
to
do
those
transfers
and
hopefully
would
make
the
budgeting
process
easier
smoother
and
we
would
be
able
to
take
care
of
all
those
pay
go
items,
and
those
are
the
two
proposed
changes
that
I
have
and
I'm
happy
to
answer.
Questions.
B
I
wanted
to
also
show
allow
you
to
see
what
others
are
doing
out
there.
So
I
went
out-
and
I
found
what
everybody's
fund
balance
is
for
our
peers,
the
top
10
counties
as
well
as
some
other
ones
out
there
and
they're
all
over
the
place,
because
it
totally
depends
on
where
you
are
in
the
state.
You
know
if
you
have
hurricanes
and
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
higher
fund
balance
requirements.
B
If
you
don't,
you
may
have
lower
some
of
them
just
go
with
whatever
the
state
requirement
is
and
then
there's
other
information
on
here
what
they
do
with
excess.
So
like
chatham
county,
they
have
undesignated
fund
balance
20
of
the
previous
year
expenditures,
and
then
funds
above
22
get
transferred
to
a
capital
reserve
similar
to
what
I'm
proposing
and
then
here's
some
more
and
you
have
this
information.
So
you
can
look
at
it
as
well.
B
C
So
I've
just
got
a
comment:
I'm
supportive
of
this
type
of
mechanism.
You
know,
that's
a
you
know
automatic
move
of
you
know
it's.
I
mean
I
remember
that
you
know
when
we
were
when
we
were
building
our
church.
That's
one
of
the
ways
we
did
it
when
we
had
a
certain
amount
of
money
in
the
general
fund
when
we
went
over
it,
he
went
to
the
building
fund,
so
pretty
easy
way
to
do
it,
and
it
also
makes
it
a
lot
less
subjective.
A
I
have
a
question
john,
so
this
is
this
would
be
a
policy
if
we
we're
in
a
situation
where
we
want
it
to
go
above
or
below,
for
whatever
reasons
we
might
find
ourselves
in
at
that.
Given
point
in
time,
we
could
do
that
right.
I
mean
this:
is
a
policy
we're
setting,
so
if
we
make
a
conscious
decision
to
deviate
from
it,
and
a
majority
of
the
board
agrees
that
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
in
a
given
situation?
A
B
D
A
E
Ted
is
going
to
do
the
bulk
of
the
presentation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
a
few
words
to
kind
of
set
the
stage
here,
because
this
is
a
this-
is
a
project
that
the
city
has
largely
been
sort
of
bird
dogging
for
the
last
most
of
the
last
decade.
But
I
do
want
to
impress
upon
you
that
this
is
this
is
the
biggest
project
that
we
will
see
in
our
lifetimes
in
this
region.
So
it
is,
it
is
no
small
thing.
E
You've
always
been
welcome.
I
I
will
say
you've
always
been
welcome.
So
most
of
the
big
design
design
decisions
have
been
made.
The
aesthetics
piece
of
this,
though,
is
critical,
and
it
will
make
the
difference
in
whether
we
feel
like
when
the
project
is
done,
whether
it
has
just
landed
on
us
or
whether
it
is
whether
this
project
is
really
something
that's
going
to
enhance
our
community,
and
there
is
a
huge
difference.
E
If
you,
if
you
know
sort
of
standard
dot,
ways
of
doing
things,
they're
pretty
basic
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
this
project
be
as
special
for
our
community
as
we
possibly
can
funding
decisions
about.
Some
of
these
things
can
be
made
later,
but
the
bulk
of
the
the
the
defending
decisions
about
the
bulk
of
the
improvements
that
are
going
to
be
recommended
to
you
need
to
be
made.
E
Essentially
now,
and
when
I
say
now,
I
mean
within
sort
of
the
next
two
to
four
months
and
you
you
may
ask:
why
are
we
just
coming
to
you
now
for
something
this
big,
and
the
answer
is
that
the
work
has
just
taken
that
long.
This
work
has
been
underway
for
almost
two
years
now
and
it's,
and
it
is
just
now
ready
for
presentation
and
it's
kind
of
slamming
right
up
against
some
dot
deadlines
as
well.
E
That
is
not
going
to
be
nearly
enough.
We
have
also
already
essentially
dedicated
about
a
million
of
that
to
making
sidewalks
wider,
making
multi-use
paths
wider.
So
these
are
you
know,
dot
has
their
own
standards.
We
know
that
we're
going
to
need
a
wider,
a
wider
sidewalk,
a
wider
multi-use
path.
So
we've
already
committed
about
a
million
of
that
to
make
those
kinds
of
improvements.
E
So
we
have.
We
have
about
a
million
left.
Your
options
for
funding,
I
would
suggest
to
you-
are
either
just
finding
money
in
your
general
fund
in
your
capital
projects
fund.
Another
key
avenue,
though,
is
partnering
with
the
city
and
jointly
prioritizing
these
investments
with,
in
our
asks
to
the
tourism
and
development
authority.
E
E
E
We
have
one
chance
to
get
this
right
for
our
city
and
for
our
county
for
a
project
that
will
be
with
us
for
literally
generations,
decades
and
decades
and
decades,
and
so
that
time
is
now-
and
I
just
would
ask
you
to
again
sort
of
come
together
with
the
city
and
help
and
jointly
make
the
commitments
that
are
going
to
make
this
a
really
great
project
for
our
city.
So
with
that,
I
will
turn
it
over
to
ted.
Thank
you.
F
F
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
the
highlights
of
the
I-26
connector
aesthetics
committee
phase,
one
report
a
bit
of
background.
First,
the
aesthetics
committee
was
appointed
in
the
fall
of
2018
by
the
asheville
city
council,
following
nc
dots
advice
that
the
city
developed
recommendations
for
aesthetic
treatments
for
the
I-26
corridor.
F
F
F
F
The
committee
paid
particular
attention
to
the
appearance
of
bridges
that
will
be
along
the
interstate.
We
want
these
bridges
to
make
a
statement
about
the
quality
of
life
in
asheville
and
in
buncombe
county.
Some
of
these
features,
nc
dot
has
adopted
at
no
cost
to
the
localities
and
some
will
require
local
funding.
F
F
F
F
F
A
second
major
aesthetic
focus
of
the
I-26
connector
is
the
haywood
road
bridge.
Haywood
road
is
the
is
the
center
of
west
asheville's
renaissance.
The
bridge
links
east
west
asheville
with
the
rest
of
the
haywood
road
corridor.
Creating
an
inviting
experience
for
pedestrians
and
bicyclists
will
pay
dividends
in
neighborhood
cohesion
and
tourism.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
The
new
atkinson
street
pedestrian
bridge
marks
the
entrance
to
downtown
asheville
along
I-240
coming
from
the
north.
The
bridge
is
designated
by
is
designed
by
the
committee
pays
homage
to
those
designed
by
frederick
law,
olmsted
landscape
architect
for
the
biltmore
estate.
The
bridge
will
be
an
important
pedestrian
connection
between
hill
street
montford
neighborhoods
and
the
hillcrest
departments.
F
Amboy
road
is
the
entrance
to
carrier
park
and
from
the
interstate
to
the
river
arts
district,
the
committee
is
recommended
to
design
for
the
amboy
road
interchange
that
maximizes
the
use
of
the
two
roundabouts
nc
dot
will
build
this
design.
Invoking
a
blue
ridge,
parkway
tunnel
has
been
accepted
by
ncdot,
and
the
local
cost
would
be
for
the
additional
cobblestone
treatment
and
the
decorative
lighting.
F
The
committee
is
recommending
ncdot's
enhanced
standard
treatment
for
the
brevard
road
bridge,
with
the
exception
that
decorative
lighting
should
be
provided
on.
The
bridge
ncdot
will
be
constructing
two
new
greenways
as
part
of
the
I-26
connector
and
others
will
interface
with
the
project.
The
committee
recommends.
Close
attention
be
paid
to
these
connections.
F
F
F
F
It
is
well
documented
that
the
entire
metropolitan
area
benefits
from
the
health
of
its
central
city.
The
I-26
connector
will
have
a
profound
impact
on
the
city's
character
and
thus
to
its
tourist
appeal.
Many
of
the
committee's
recommendations.
Besides
making
the
I-26
connector
generally
more
attractive,
create
significant
place-making
opportunities
that
will
be
attractive
to
citizens
and
tourists
alike.
F
The
funding
commitment
for
the
aesthetic
improvements
needs
to
be
specified
in
an
agreement
between
the
city
of
asheville
and
ncdot.
Before
the
rfp
is
issued
later,
this
fall.
We
anticipate
that
the
city
of
asheville
will
have
three
years
after
the
signing
of
this
agreement
before
payment
to
fund
the
aesthetic
improvements
is
due.
However,
a
commitment
needs
to
be
made
before
the
rfp
is
issued,
and
there
are
also
opportunities
to
further
defer
some
of
these
costs.
F
F
We
are
asking
that
you
select
those
aesthetic
improvements
that
you
believe
are
most
appropriate
for
the
county
to
fund
the
board
and
county
staff
will
will
then
need
to
work
with
the
city
of
asheville
and
the
tda
to
develop
a
funding
plan.
We
suggest
that
the
county
commit
to
a
multi-year
capital
appropriation
of
two
million
dollars.
F
As
julie
said,
the
city
has
already
committed
this
amount
of
funding,
but
most
of
which
most
of
this
is
will
fund.
Other
city
requests
for
wider
sidewalks
and
multi-use
paths
and
much
more
is
needed,
and
we
expect
that
the
asheville
city
council
will
be
adding
to
its
current
funding
commitment
as
well.
A
A
F
C
I
mean
if
it's
good
project
I
mean
the
tda
is
50
match,
so
I
mean
certainly
part
of
this.
I
mean
whether
I
agree
with
all
of
it
or
part
of
it.
It's
certainly
a
something
I
would
expect
the
the
the
city
to
ask
for
when
you
know
when
the
patton
avenue
becomes
the
you
know
what
the
expectations
are.
For
you
know
I've
I've
been
an
advocate
for
the
for
that
one
bridge,
since
I
was
on
a
just
different
discussion
groups
for
for
a
long
time.
C
C
C
You
know
you
got
to
be
really
accurate
in
the
amount
of
money
that
what
your
expectations
are,
because
this
you
know
citizens
of
county
hold
us
accountable
to
that,
and
so
you
know,
if
there's
some
things
that
you
can't.
You
know
really
think
that
you
know
is
at
the
top
of
the
list,
and
you
really
don't
expect
that
to
happen.
You
know
you
think
you're
in
here
or
if
you
expect
it
all
to
happen,
then
fine,
you
can
you
know
you
can
ask,
but
those
those
numbers
need
to
be
very
accurate.
F
Yes,
I
I
agree,
and-
and
we
will
be
working
with
nc-
that
this
is
a
draft
report,
because
you
know
we
did
even
as
of
june,
we
did
not
have
all
the
all
the
information
we
needed
from
from
nc
dot,
so
this
will
be
being
refined,
and
we
expect
that,
under
the
guidance
of
the
commission,
the
county
staff
will
be.
You
know
looking
at
these
and
doing
exactly
what
you
said
I
identifying
specifics
working
to
get
you
know.
F
The
one
thing
is
that
once
nc
dot
identifies
the
cost
for
each
item,
those
costs
are
not
going
to
change.
It's
the
the
design
build
contractor
will
bid
on
the
project.
They
will
be
responsible
so
there,
if
there
are
any
cost
overruns
on
this.
It's
going
to
be
the
the
contractor.
That's
going
to
eat
the
cost,
it
will
be
a
fixed
cost
that
the
localities
will
be
will
be
committing
to
in
in
the
agreement
that
the
city
signs
with
ncdot.
G
E
Thank
you,
al
ted
and
I
presented
to
chris
kavanagh
and
before
she
left
stephanie
brown.
We
made
the
same
presentation
to
them,
and
that
was
exactly
the
message
that
we
got
so
joe
knows
this,
because
he
and
I
go
to
tda
board
meetings
together
every
month,
but
just
to
remind
the
rest
of
you,
the
city
and
the
county
over
the
last
year,
or
so
have
both
submitted
a
list
of
projects
priority
projects
for
funding
from
tda
to
the
tda.
E
This
is
on
the
city's
list.
I
don't
believe
it's
on
the
county's
list.
I
wouldn't
have
expected
it
to
be
because
it
wasn't
on
your
radar
yet,
but
the
very
clear
direction
to
us
from
coming
out
of
that
meeting
was,
if
you
want
the
tda
to
fund
this,
you
all
both
the
city
and
the
county
will
need
to
have
this
on
their
list
and
will
need
to
prioritize
it
so
that
that
is
a.
That
is
a
step
that
needs
to
happen.
E
A
H
A
We
had
a
million
dollars
allocated
so
so
just
for
for
for
collective
remembrance.
Quite
a
while
ago,
the
county
voted
to
put
a
million
dollars
aside
in
a
future
cip
for
this
project.
At
that
point,
you
know
we
didn't
have
any
of
these
kind
of
details
of
what
the
project
actually
looked
like,
so
the
million
dollars
was
kind
of
kind
of
an
arbitrary
number
so,
but
we
have
had
that,
you
know
in
the
planning
process,
so
so.
H
A
Cip,
well,
commission,
we
don't
have
to
make
a
decision
today
we
wanted
to
get
an
informational
presentation,
so
great
great
job,
ted
and
julie.
Thanks
for
the
update,
this
is
obviously
a
very
important
project
to
everybody
in
the
county,
so
we
will
think
about
this
and
we
will
circle
back
and
provide
some
kind
of
feedback.
I
certainly
don't
see
any
reason
we
shouldn't
work
together
with
the
tda
part
and
participate
at
some
level,
but
obviously
we
got
to
decide
what
what
that
looks
like
yeah.
I
think.
D
C
A
I
Thank
you
chairman
commissioners,
good
afternoon,
we
are
now
in
a
new
fiscal
year.
So
it's
time
for
me
to
give
you
a
few
updates.
The
three
topics
I
want
to
cover
today
are
annual
settlement
of
fiscal
year,
the
outstanding
fiscal
year,
2020,
regular
property
taxes
and
the
order
of
collection
for
fiscal
year.
2021.
I
The
annual
settlement
does
require
approval.
It
is
comprised
of
three
components:
a
summary
of
net
levie
and
collections
for
buncombe
county
and
the
jurisdictions
and
districts
we
bill
and
collect.
On
behalf
of
that
also
includes
a
summary
of
the
property
taxes
billed
and
collected
by
the
north
carolina
department
of
motor
vehicles
for
registered
motor
vehicles.
I
The
second
component
is
a
list
of
unpaid
fiscal
year,
2020
property
taxes
and
the
third
is
a
list
of
taxpayers
who
have
been
found
to
be
insolvent
or
uncollectible
personal
property
taxes.
Examples
of
that
could
be
closed,
businesses
or
individuals
who
have
moved
away
and
we
cannot
locate
their
personal
property.
I
Net
levy
was
195
million
four
hundred
forty
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
seventeen
dollars,
so
that
leaves
uncollected
at
june
30
of
one
million
one
hundred
ninety
one
thousand
five
hundred
three
dollars.
When
we
compare
that
to
last
year,
the
uncollected
amount
at
june
30
was
201
thousand
nine
hundred
thirteen
dollars,
and
we
were
ninety
nine
point.
Eight
nine
percent
collected
across
north
carolina.
We
were
fortunate
that
covet
happened
after
the
date
of
delinquency,
because
we
had
already
collected
the
bulk
of
our
property
taxes,
but
in
march
collection
efforts
slowed
significantly
and
those
continued.
I
I
So
what
do
we
do
about
those
outstanding
2020
property
tax,
payment,
property
taxes,
step?
One
is
we're
going
to
continue
to
reach
out
to
those
taxpayers
with
outstanding
fiscal
year,
property
taxes
via
telephone
and
court
written
correspondence
step
two
will
be
to
continue
to
encourage
those
payment
arrangements
and
their
payment
arrangements
may
include
property
taxes
for
both
fiscal
years.
2020
and
21.,
step
3
would
be
without
response
or
adherence
to
a
structured
payment
arrangement.
Collection
actions
may
include
multiple
years
of
outstanding
property
taxes.
I
As
planned
and
that
those
forced
collection
actions
also
include
bank
attachments
or
wage
garnishments
or
levies
and
I'll
explain
why,
when
we
take
an
action,
there
is
a
collection
fee,
that's
attached
to
a
bill.
I
really
don't
want
taxpayers
to
incur
that
fee
on
two
bills.
I'd
really
rather
combine
that
into
one
action,
and
I'm
certainly
open
to
your
guidance
and
input
on
that.
But
that's
that's
where
I'm
leaning,
I
don't
want
them
to
incur
any
additional
fees.
When
we're
going,
we
would
likely
be
taking
those
steps
in
february.
A
A
I
D
I
I
J
K
K
K
That
statute,
though,
does
give
you
two
years
upon
the
third
year.
Then
it
would
have
to
come
into
place,
which
means
that
we
could
not
have
pushed
it
out
further
than
2023
inequity
in
the
assessments
due
to
appreciating
market
over
time,
especially
in
buncombe,
county
and
asheville.
The
market
changes
very
fast
and
creates
inequities
in
the
assessments,
which
means
that
some
citizens
pay
more
and
some
citizens
pay
less
based
on
an
adverb
tax
system
and
then
maintain
the
public
service
revenue.
K
K
D
K
K
We
know
the
sales
transactions
are
down,
but
what
we
also
know
is
that
the
median
sales
price
is
up
because
people
are
not
putting
their
homes
on
the
market
at
the
moment,
because
they
don't
want
the
public
necessarily
probably
coming
through
their
homes.
At
the
moment,
however,
that
is
reduced
inventory
and
you
can
see,
though
the
days
on
the
market
also
reduce
themselves
from
62
to
48..
K
K
K
K
Number
of
transactions
does
not
affect
median
sales
price.
Okay,
what
affects
median
sales
prices,
what
the
sales
assessment
ratio
is
and
when
you
see
down
here,
the
sales
assessment
ratio
just
means
that
the
median
sales
price
went
up
commissioner
velcher
and
that
drives,
then
the
sales
ratio
even
further
down
as
the
one
goes
up.
One
comes
down,
so
that's
another
indicator
of
what
you
see
up
top
is
that
the
median
sales
price
went
from
307
to
325.,
so
the
smaller
amount
of
transactions
did
not
affect
that
and
would
not
affect
that.
Okay.
C
K
But
when
you
talk
about
calculating
a
sales
ratio,
you're
looking
at
a
median
number,
so
the
sales
ratio
is
going
to
calculate
no
matter
if
you
have
500
transactions
or
if
you
have
a
thousand
transactions,
you're
still
going
to
have
a
median
number
and
even
within
these
849
transactions,
the
median
number
still
comes
out
at
79
percent
yeah.
I
see
that
because
the
price
continues
to
increase.
K
K
We
not
only
now.
Are
we
seeing
some
restaurants
who
are
announcing
that
they
will
not
be
opening
back
up
some
retail
spaces
that
may
be
becoming
vacant,
but
what
we
don't
know
yet
is
how
that
has
affected
vacancies
for
a
long
term.
How
has
it
affected
rental
rates,
because
these
are
the
things
that
directly
affect
the
or
impact
on
the
commercial
values
for
buncombe
county?
K
So
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
little
further
out
before
we
have
a
good
idea
of
how
that's
going
to
be
affected,
and
I
think
most
people
will
agree
as
hotels
come
back
online.
We
see
occupancy
going
up
again
in
hotels.
Where
will
it
go
to?
How
confident
will
people
become
again
to
travel
and
get
those
back
up
before
january?
K
If
not,
then
it
will
affect
the
value
of
the
hospitality
industry,
so
the
reappraisal
schedule
today
july,
the
21st,
I'm
informally,
delivering
to
you
a
briefing
and
a
copy
of
the
schedule
values.
I
think
you
have
three
copies:
laying
on
your
desk
anyone's
welcome
to
a
hard
copy.
If
you
want
it
or
there's
electronic
copy
available
for
you
who
you,
which
you
might
find
easier
reading,
it
is
a
large
document,
it's
about
600
pages.
So
it
might
take
you
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
through
that.
K
K
K
After
that
adoption
we
will
advertise
once
a
week
for
four
weeks
and
all
citizens
will
have
the
ability
to
appeal
those
if
they
wish
okay
october.
1St,
then,
would
be
the
appeal
deadline,
so
reappraisal
schedule.
Continued
january,
through
december
of
2020,
we
established
new
values
for
all
property
july
through
october
schedule,
values
adopted
by
the
board
of
commissioners
and
then
january.
Through
february
of
2021,
we
will
mail
the
new
assessments
to
all
citizens
property
owners
february
through
april
informal
appeals
april
board
of
equalization
review
will
convene
march
through
april.
K
K
So,
in
a
little
more
simplicity,
what
you
see
in
that
book
applies
to
every
property
in
this
county,
so
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
own
the
exact
same
home
in
east
asheville,
as
you
do
in
west
asheville,
we
use
the
same
rates
and
the
same
methodology
to
value
both
the
only
influences
would
be
for
location
beyond
that.
So
that's.
What
establishes
uniformity
across
the
county
in
reassessment.
A
L
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
I'm
really
impressed
with
everybody's
ability
to
speak
through
this,
so
I'm,
if
I'm
talking
too
loud,
just
trying
to
make
sure
you
hear
me
dk
wesley
assistant,
county
manager.
Today,
I'm
also
standing
before
you
in
my
official
capacity
as
the
chair
of
the
justice
resource
advisory
council,
also
known
as
j-rack
with
me
today
in
support
of
this
request
is
frank
castleblanco,
who
is
the
chair
of
the
health
and
human
services
board?
L
So
just
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overview
of
the
presentation
today,
frank-
and
I
will
give
a
brief
recap
of
the
recent
declarations
that
were
passed
by
the
hhs
board
and
the
j-rack
and
then
tiffany
and
zoe
will
provide
some
historical
perspective
as
well
as
review
relevant
data.
After
that,
I
will
read
a
draft
resolution.
This
is
just
a
draft
resolution
to
give
you
all
a
starting
point.
L
Our
hope
is
that
an
official
resolution
will
be
added
to
the
august
4th
agenda
and
we'll
take
any
feedback
or
suggested
changes
or
enhancements
that
you
may
have
between
now,
and
then
I
do
want
to
share
that.
This
is
somewhat
of
a
grassroots
effort.
Buncombe
county
staff
have
made
an
attempt
to
start
this
work.
L
L
Both
declarations
were
attached
to
the
agenda
today,
also
included
on
the
agenda,
was
supporting
documentation
of
past
relevant
presentations
that
you've
seen
at
some
time
in
some
form.
Today
we
will
not
review
those
historical
documents,
but
we
included
them
as
a
reference
for
you.
As
you
finalize
a
resolution
for
your
next
meeting.
L
L
D
L
M
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
miss
pinder,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
here
a
couple
of
things,
I'm
speaking
to
you
as
the
chair
of
the
health
and
human
services
board,
but
also
as
a
nurse
and
a
provider
in
the
community.
This
is
something
that
is
very
near
and
dear
to
me,
because
we
care
for
these
individuals
in
the
organization
that
I
work
for
at
meghac
on
a
daily
basis,
and
we
see
these
outcomes
for
the
health
side
of
things
that
are
disparate
and
the
2018
community.
M
M
This
is
alarming,
to
say
the
least-
and
this
is
something
that
the
hhs
board
has
been
focusing
on
for
more
than
the
past
year
for
the
past
several
years,
in
trying
to
understand
these
differences
and
where
they
come
from,
because
once
that
baby
is
born,
those
social
determinants
have
already
predicted
a
lot
of
what
that
baby
is
going
to
do
in
life
and,
more
importantly,
the
outcome,
the
health
of
that
baby,
and
so
this
dials
back
to
the
health
disparities
and
the
social
determinants
of
health.
So
it's
education,
it's
housing!
M
It's
access
to
care,
it's
a
number
of
different
things.
It's
a
number
of
different
programs,
and
these
are
very
important
to
understand,
because
this
is
where
our
declaration,
the
declaration
of
structural
racism
as
a
public
health
crisis,
is
really
founded
upon
it's
these
social
determinants
that
determine
these
outcomes
long
term
and
to
address
those
changes,
those
disparities
it
has
to
happen
from
a
systemic
perspective.
M
You
have
to
go
back
to
the
roots
of
it,
and
so
this
declaration
is
made
with
the
intent
of
focusing
not
only
on
racism
but
focusing
on
the
systems
that
we've
created
and
trying
to
understand.
Where
did
we
go
wrong
and,
more
importantly,
how
do
we
change
them?
How
do
we
correct
them
so
going
forward?
A
current
example
is
covid19.
M
You
look
at
the
number
of
outcomes
for
african-american
individuals
for
the
latinx
community
statewide
nationally,
but
even
here
in
buncombe
county
and
once
again,
there's
a
difference,
there's
a
disparity
and
it's
not
the
same
as
the
population
percentage,
and
so
it's
very
important
to
understand
that
this
is
also
based
upon
that
system
and
how
we
function
and
so
to
change
these
outcomes.
We
have
to
go
back
and
understand
where
they
started
and
to
dismantle
them
from
the
very
beginning
piece
of
it
and
so
on
june
26.
M
We
as
a
hhs
board
declared
structural
racism
as
a
public
health
crisis,
because
we
understand
the
seriousness
of
it
and
working
with
hhs
on
a
regular
basis
to
understand
the
programmatic
work.
That
could
happen
is
a
big
piece
of
this,
so
that
this
can
go
forward
and
actually
happen.
It's
not
just
the
declaration
piece,
but
it's
what
backs
it
up
the
so
what
of
it,
which
is
the
important
part
of
it?
M
And
lastly,
here
I
have
19
letters
from
community
organizations.
These
are
from
the
executive
directors
from
ceos
of
a
lot
of
major
employers,
but
more
importantly,
community
organizations
that
are
doing
this
work
that
have
written
in
support
of
this
declaration.
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
so
that
you
could
examine
this
later,
but
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
appreciate
it
and
there's
a
whole
lot
more
data
to
come
from
zoe
and
tiffany.
Thank
you.
N
Good
afternoon,
thank
you
to
our
county
manager,
avril
pinder
and
also
to
the
commissioners
for
this
opportunity
to
share
with
you
all
exactly
what
this
initiative
and
proposal
presents
in
terms
of
our
health
outcomes
and
then
also
what
it
presents
in
terms
of
our
health
factors
which
really
speaks
to
how
healthy
our
community
can
be.
What
lies
ahead
in
the
future.
N
N
N
We
see
a
really
staggering
statistics
and
we
are
learning
that
there
is
a
hidden
crisis
in
america
that
is
starting
to
come
to
light
recently
in
a
white
paper
published
by
the
congressional
black
caucus
in
december
of
2019
african-american
youth
have
the
highest
rate
of
suicide
growing.
Incrementally
now,
when
we
hear
about
suicide,
we
normally
hear
that
it
is
a
disease
of
despair
for
working
class
white
males.
N
There
has
been
a
hidden
crisis
and
our
community
has
all
the
hallmarks
of
this
becoming
something
that
the
data
will
tell
us.
Every
year,
our
buncombe
county
schools
conduct
what
is
a
social
emotional
learning
assessment
and
they've
been
able
to
even
do
that
twice
a
year
with
a
new
instrument
called
panorama.
N
N
What
we
are
seeing
from
just
this
initial
couple
of
years
of
the
data
is
that
our
students
of
color
are
scoring
to
a
place
of
vulnerability,
and
so
we
are
very
much
likely
now
that
suicide
is
based
on
a
population
of
100
000
and
so
from
the
late
80s
to
the
early
2000s
we
saw
every
hundred
thousand.
There
were
about
2.4
adolescent
suicides
for
blacks,
and
so
now
that's
going
up
to
cro
approaching
five,
so
those
numbers
seem
small.
But
again
you
always
have
to
remember
that
this
is
also
a
life
that
is
cut
short.
N
We
always
hear
about
information,
but
rarely
do
we
hear
about
child
and
adolescent
suicide
for
our
students
of
color
now
on
into
adulthood,
we
still
see
the
same
story
in
terms
of
clinical
care
here
in
bunkin
county.
We
have
seen
that
blacks
in
particular,
are
seeing
two
times
more
of
the
preventable
hospital
stays.
N
And
similarly,
we
are
learning
that
this
through
this
covet
experience,
that
we
are
all
only
as
healthy
as
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
community
and
in
learning
that
we
are
also
seeing
the
importance
of
protective
factors
or
health
opportunities
which
originate
at
a
systems
level
and
really
for-
and
this
has
been
a
call
for
us
to
shift
away
from
an
orientation
that
emphasizes
individual
behaviors.
Now.
I
know
that,
obviously
this
is
a
very
important
individual
behavior,
but
there's
also
other
systems
components
to
it.
N
So
starting
with
the
median
wage
here
in
buncombe
county,
the
average
work
person
of
color
makes
four
dollars
less
at
the
median
than
white
workers.
This
difference
makes
all
in
terms
of
housing
opportunities
and
savings.
Just
imagine
what
seventy
six
hundred
dollars
could
mean
for
the
average
family
and
what
they're
able
to
do,
and
the
types
of
choices
that
they're
able
to
make
continuing
on
to
education
and
job
readiness
in
buncombe
county.
Forty,
two
percent
of
the
jobs
that
we
have
available
require
a
minimum
of
an
associate's
degree.
N
N
Now
many
of
these
workers
also
happen
to
be
the
working
poor.
We
see
a
similar
pattern
where
those
at
that
150
to
200
percent
of
the
federal
poverty
level
are
at
29,
african-american,
45
percent
latinx
and
sixteen
percent
white.
Now
I
know
we've,
you
know.
When
we
talk
about
equity,
we
often
talk
about
our
rural
white
and
poor.
I
just
want
you
to
use
this
number
as
a
reminder
that
there
is
quite
often
a
relationship
in
one's
race
and
one's
opportunity
in
where
sometimes
we
may
want
to
bring
up
those
conditions
about.
N
C
C
Most
are
or
poor
struggling
families,
and
so
I'm
wondering
where
you
know
when
I
think
of
you
know
racial
disparities.
You
know
they
also
come
to
mind.
You
know
in
in
the
way
they
may
may
be
treated,
and
so
I'm
wondering
are
they
do
we
know
for
sure
if
they're
listed
in
the
in
the
white,
16
percent
or
or
is
there
an
other.
F
N
The
national
equity
atlas
actually
does
include
data
on
those
whites
who
are
immigrants.
It
turns
out
that
they
actually
have
higher
levels
of
education
acquisition,
which
is
quite
often
in
new
americans,
because
that
without
that
education,
so
quite
you
know
there
is-
I
don't
want
to
go
into
the
story
of
what
you
know
for
our
immigrants.
We
often
will
see
higher
levels
of
education
attainment
and
that's
quite
often
because
the
family
does
not
qualify
for
a
lot
of
federal
programs,
and
so
we
know
for
based
on
the
equity
atlas
they
do
have.
N
There
is
a
listing,
and
so
what
I
did
I
didn't
include
it
here,
even
though
we
do
have
a
very
large
eastern
european
demographic
in
certain
census
tracts.
However,
what
we're
seeing
is
that
race
is
a
protective
factor
for
white
immigrants
and
so
continuing
on.
We
have
here
where
we
see
another,
this
similar
trend,
where
there
is
a
desperate
outcomes
in
opportunity
in
terms
of
individual
income
gains
with
racial
equity.
N
C
I
mean
the
only
reason
I
mean
the
reason
I
thought
I'm
just
had
a
you
know.
I
know
that's
a
poor.
You
know
group
of
people
that
you
know
as
people
of
color
should
not
be
ignored.
You
know
they
shouldn't
be
ignored
and
I
just
wondered
where
they
were
in
the
the
in
the
the
numbers.
So
so
it's
more
from
a
poverties.
N
D
J
I
just
want
to
let
you
guys
be
aware
if
I
sound
a
little
hoarse,
so
I
quickly
want
to
present
about
the
criminal
justice
racial
equity
work
that
has
been
occurring
for
the
last
two
years.
Since
we've
gotten
the
macarthur
foundation,
we
were
awarded
in
2018
and
we
have
a
large
expansive
work
group
about
30
people
included
on
that,
and
we
started
with
really
getting
a
grounding
or
a
shared
analysis
in
what
racism
means.
J
When
we
talk
about
institutional
and
structural
racism,
and
then
we
started
exploring
data,
and
so
the
slide
you
see
before
me
is
the
work
group's
work
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
data
and
so
for
some
context
in
2019,
according
to
the
census,
approximate
or
estimates
that
they
do,
african
american
residents
make
up
about
6.3
of
our
population.
However,
they
represent
25
percent
of
our
jail
population
and
69
of
gun
violence
victims
in
our
community.
J
One
thing
I
would
like
to
say
some
caveats
about
our
our
work
groups
work
we're
really
drilling
in
on
gel
data.
That's
only
one
decision
point
in
the
whole
criminal
justice
context,
we
have
very
limited
access
to
court
data,
arrest,
data
and
correction,
correctional
data,
meaning
department
of
public
safety,
community
supervision,
so
we're
seeing
right
here
strictly
was
coming
from
our
jail
database.
J
I
also
want
to
point
out,
too
that
these
data
points
have
been
focused
in
black
and
whites.
Our
other
races
and
ethnicities-
well,
other
races
have
captured,
are
very
small
in
terms
of
population,
probably
less
than
one
percent,
and
we
need
to
do
a
lot
better
at
collecting
ethnicity
or
latinx
community
data.
However,
there's
a
lot
of
complications
around
collecting
that,
especially
in
the
criminal
justice
system,
but
one
thing
that
we
do
know
regardless.
J
If
we
help
one
population,
we
theorize
that
all
populations
are
benefited
and
that
comes
from
the
curbside
effect,
probably
40,
50
years
back
with
the
ada
and
the
rehabilitation
act,
creating
those
curbs
and
the
sidewalks
so
that
people
with
ada,
accommodations
or
accommodations
could
safely
cross
the
street.
However,
that
created
a
an
impact
that
affected
all
of
us.
J
So
in
2019,
black
people
represented
about
20
percent
of
folks
getting
arrested
in
our
jail
and
our
average
spent
about
four
days
longer
in
custody
for
pretrial,
and
we
were
really
getting
specific.
So
looking
at
different
charge
types
looking
at
different
financial
bonds
that
were
being
attached,
we
noticed
that
the
primary
difference
was
found
in
length
of
stay
for
our
violent
felony
charges
and
so,
after
doing
a
case
review
and
in-depth
analysis
for
violent
felony
releases.
J
We
found
that
disparities
were
sustained
when
looking
at
similar
offenses
and
similar
arrest
release
types,
meaning
we
were,
comparing,
I
don't
say,
apples
to
apples
but
we're
looking
at
someone's
charge
and
background
and
comparing
it
that
way.
So
we
were
able
to
see
that
the
disparities
remain
the
same.
J
A
white
saw
reduction
from
320
to
192,
and
that
was
about
a
40
reduction,
and
I
will
say
this
was
not
done
on
every
case
or
information
was
taken
into
context
and
so
we're
looking
at
the
overall
system
and
not
individual
case
of
how
decisions
were
being
made,
but
just
on
average
noting
the
reductions
that
were
made
and
then
go
to
my
next
slide.
Is
there
any
questions
on
that
slide
about
data.
J
And
we
also
had
to
take
the
time
to
do
some
community
engagement,
and
so
we
were
looking
at
what
are
the
communities
saying
about
what's
happening
in
our
criminal
justice
system?
We
had
the
opportunity
to
go
to
three
communities:
barnesville
pisgah
view
apartments
and
even
in
the
detention
facility.
J
We
were
on
our
way
well
on
our
way
to
going
to
more
neighborhoods
but
covet
prevented
that,
and
so
hopefully
we
can
start
that.
But
we
did
start
collecting
some
of
that
qualitative
data
and
noticed
that
three
things
that
community
were
saying
some
of
the
priorities
that
they
wanted
to
focus
on
or
they
wanted.
The
work
to
focus
on
is
changing
the
police
mindset
and
behavior.
J
They
recognize
a
different
treatment
between
or
based
on,
race
and
wealth,
and
then
restoring
blocks
or
restoring,
preventing
roadblocks
to
restoring
or
restoring
someone
when
they
come
out
of
prison
or
jail
so
making
sure
that
we
eliminate
some
barriers,
and
so
I
present
that
to
say
some
of
the
things
we're
thinking
of
system,
leaders
and
professionals.
The
community
is
echoing
the
same
and
they're
common
themes
that
they
share
throughout,
and
so
that's
what
the
community
voices
are
have
been
important
to
us
in
our
process
and
will
help
us
as
we
move
forward.
J
D
L
L
L
Buncombe
county
will
seek
to
promote
racial
equity
through
policies
approved
by
the
board
of
commissioners
and
will
encourage
other
local
state
and
national
entities
to
recognize
racism
as
a
public
health
and
safety
crisis
as
well.
I
don't
know
how
y'all
do
that
that
was
alone,
so
I
just
want
to
take
any
feedback
that
you
all
have.
If
you
have
thoughts,
reflection,
feedback
questions
we'll
take
any
of
that.
P
I'd
just
like
to
first
of
all
thank
the
members
of
the
hhs
board,
including
commissioner
edwards,
the
folks
who
are
here
and
the
members
of
j-rock
who
I'm
honored
to
serve
with,
and
the
county
staff
who've
worked
on
both
of
the
resolutions
that
have
now
passed
in
the
drafting
of
this.
This
feels
like
a
strong
statement
that
ties
together
a
lot
of
the
work.
That's
that's
happened
so
just
as
a
starting
point
in
our
discussion
wanted
to
share
that
perspective.
O
G
G
And
now
I
think,
as
commissioners,
our
charge
is
to
make
sure
that
we
walk
the
talk
and
put
things
in
place
that
we
can
accomplish
what
we
know
looking
ahead,
and
this
is
the
only
way
you
know
when
we
talk
today
about
reparations
and
a
lot
of
other
things
that
we
see.
But
you
know
it's
like
building
a
house.
C
It's
not
this
county,
that's
not
my
home,
that's
not
my
faith.
It
shouldn't
be
the
way
we
distribute
money.
You
know
the
my
job
as
a
commissioner.
Is
it's
really
pretty
simple
when
I
can
get
into
a
whole
lot
of
things,
but
it's
to
is
to
take
the
tax
dollars
of
buncombe
county
and
see
if
they're,
appropriated
fairly
and
in
in,
I
think
as
a
as
a
county,
with
some
of
the
programs
that
we
have
done.
We've
we've
done
a
very
good
job,
but
there
are.
C
There
are
ways
that
we
can
improve
and
this
outlines
some
of
those
those
ways
and
areas
within
within
the
county
and
within
the
city.
You
know
that
need
to
people
that
need
to
be
reached
and
their
lives
can
be
changed
and
I
keep
beating
this
drum
and
I'm
I'm
going
to
continue
to
bring
it
up.
But
you
know
it's
looking
at
the
the
economic
you
know
in
education
and
some
things
that
was
in
the
in
the
report,
and
we
have
got
to
do
a
better
job
in
in
in
the
county.
C
C
You
know,
go
to
this
school
or
make
this
amount
of
money
or
buy
a
house
or
a
car,
and
we
have.
We
have
got
to
bring
that
availability
and
get
that
message
out
to
people
of
color
in
in
buncombe
county
and
to
everyone.
I
mean
that
that
there's
a
it's
a
gym
and
there's
just
there's
a
lot
of
businesses
that
are
hot,
that
manufacturers
that'll
hire
people
right
out
of
high
school,
and
so
I
want
to
get
off
of
that
soapbox.
C
But
we
really
have
got
to
have
a
you
know,
an
increased
strategy
and
I
believe
it
can
also
help
in
those
in
the
marginalized
populations
in
buncombe
county
too.
So,
but
a
lot
of
hard
work.
That's
a
long
proclamation!
That's
what
I
mean
a
resolution.
That's
why
it's
tough
to
read,
and
but
anyhow
I
thank
y'all
for
your
work
and
but
what
we
got
to
do
is
see.
C
C
C
If
it
means
we
have
to
teach
certain
skills
and
if
it
means
that
we
have
to
work
with
buncombe
county
schools
or
we
have
to
work
with,
you
know,
outside
of
the
county.
You
know
employers
to
be
able
to
do
this
and
make
a
difference,
and
then
we
need
to.
We
need
to
do
that,
but
the
the
strategy
associated
with
this
is
is
the
challenge
with
us,
and
if
we're
going
to
do
this,
it's
going
to
require
a
lot
of
work,
and
but
it's
worth
doing.
O
So
many
of
those
social
emotional
issues
are
also
taken
care
of,
so
that
those
children
aren't
carrying
trauma
with
them
to
our
k-12
system,
which
then
means
that
they
can
have
those
conversations
as
high
schoolers
about
what
types
of
jobs
they
want
to
have.
It
gives
a
b
tech
the
opportunity
to
recruit
them
to
those
technical
education
programs
and
to
achieve
those
associate
degrees
that
we
saw
that
our
our
people
of
color
in
our
community
are
not
obtaining
and
you're
absolutely
right.
Our
our
job
is
the
line
item
and
how
do
we
get
there?
O
And
I
think
this
is
where
we
get
to
start
the
conversation
about.
What's
our
next
steps,
how
do
we
move
forward
in
addition
to
this
resolution,
and
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
entertain
the
conversation
about
whether
buncombe
county
commissioners
would
like
to
further
address
reparations
for
people
of
color
in
buncombe,
county.
P
So
you
know
I
look
forward
to
voting
for
the
passage
of
this
resolution.
I
think
it's
a
very
important
statement
that
begins
to
weave
together
the
work
happening
in
different
places
and
and
also
would
like
us
to
move
forward
with
developing
a
resolution
on
the
issue
of
operations.
That's
specific
to
the
county.
P
So
just
wanted
to
share
that
as
sort
of
a
building
off
what
commissioner
edward
said,
but
also
just
as
a
conversation
at
the
level
of
full
commission
that
there's
dialogue
about
that
and
interest
in
moving
forward
with
that.
And
if,
if
there
are
folks
who
have
ideas
about
that,
that's
certainly
welcome
dialogue.
To
have.
O
C
Q
Q
We
can't
go
back
and
do
and
correct
our
past,
but
we
can
know
from
july
2020
going
forward
that
this
stuff
here
that
you're
saying
is
just
unacceptable
for
for
our
our
county
when
I
got
the
opportunity
to
meet
with
on
the
strategic
plan.
One
of
the
first
questions
I
ask
is
about
the
infant
mortality.
I
ask
specific.
I
want
to
know
why
that
is,
and
then
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
can
maybe
try
to
partner
with
some
of
our.
Q
I
see
all
the
time
where
you
know
major
league
baseball
and
nba.
They
pump
money
into
communities
to
help
and
we've
got
some
of
you
know.
We
have
brad
artery
brad
johnson
cameron,
maven.
That
could
help
lead
this
here
and
in
this
resolution
here
I
would
go
out
on
the
limb
right
now
and
ask
my
colleagues
to
put
it
on
the
agenda
tonight.
Let's,
let's,
let's
pass
this
resolution
tonight,
but
I
don't
know
if
they
can
happen,
but
I
what
you've
read
here
I
want
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
it
and,
let's
fix
it.
Q
I
don't
want
this
to
be
some
piece
of
paper
that
we've
set
here
in
2020
and
adopted
and
in
2024
we're
doing
it
again.
That's
right!
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
dig
down
into
the
to
the
root
of
the
matter
and
we
fix
the
issues
because,
because
there's
some
of
this
that
I
look
at-
and
I
just
wonder,
is-
is
it?
Is
it
against
the
law?
Q
If,
if
I,
if,
if
I
go
to
a
hospital
for
a
health
procedure,
am
I
being
denied
that
procedure
because
the
color
of
my
skin
and
if
that
is
happening,
that
needs
to
be
corrected
and
and
but
this
resolution
here,
I
would
support
putting
on
the
agenda
at
five
o'clock
and
voting
on
it
tonight.
But
I'll
leave
that
to
my
other
six
colleagues.
Q
A
Other
comments
from
commissioners,
okay,
so
we
need
to
move
on
to
the
coveted
item
that
we
saw
on
the
agenda,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
just
I
also
want
to
say
thanks
to
all
the
all
the
folks
who
have
worked
to
bring
this
forward.
You
know,
I
think
that
you
know
these
are
issues
that
people
have
been
concerned
about
a
long
time.
A
A
I
think
at
a
time-
that's
very
fortuitous
and
that
you
know
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
change
happens
evenly
across
time.
You
know,
I
think
I
think
there
are
times
when
communities
and
countries
are
ready
to
make
bigger
changes,
and
I
think
that
we
are.
We
have
entered
into
one
of
those
times
now,
as
it
relates
to
these
concerns.
A
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
supporting
this
resolution
as
well.
I
am
also
open
to
the
discussion
about
a
county
consideration
of
a
community
reparations
policy
as
well.
I
think
the
county
works
in
areas
that
are
really
central
to
this.
We
work
on
economic
development.
We
have
a
responsibility
to
support
a
community
economic
development
strategy
that
works
for
everyone
and
for
all
the
good
work.
A
That's
been
done
when
we
look
again
when
we
look
at
the
community,
we
see
that
our
strategies
have
not
worked
to
help
support
the
growth
of
african-american-owned
businesses
and
that's
something
we
can
do
something
about
and
in
many
other
areas
as
well.
We
work
on
affordable
housing.
It's
a
big
issue
for
many
parts
of
our
community.
G
A
On
to
their
kids
and
they
can
they
can
own
it
and
pass
it
on
to
their
their
family,
so
these
are
important
conversations
that
that
we
should
we
need
to
be
having,
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
them.
So
thanks
to
everyone
for
the
discussion
this
evening,
all
right,
the
last
item
on
our
agenda
for
the
briefing
is
coven
19
update
and
dr
mullendore
and
fletch
tov
are
here
and
if
we
need
to
take
a
little
more
time,
we
are
happy
to
do
so.
A
R
You've
heard
me
over
the
last
couple
times
say
that
there's
a
lag
between
the
data
on
our
dashboard,
which
requires
manual
entry
by
our
chemical,
these
nurses
or
clerical
staff,
and
the
data
on
the
state
dashboard,
which
is
automatically
updated
electronically.
When
lab
reports
come
to
the
system,
so
we're
working
we're
actively
working
on
addressing
those
those
issues,
but
the
data
here
comes
from
today
the
state
website,
so
you
can
see
that
we
are
up
now
to
1223
cases
of
lab,
confirmed,
coveton
county
residents.
The
state
has
us
at
41
deaths.
R
R
There
are
definitely
issues
with
getting
test
results.
We
know
that
the
lab
core
and
quest
and
the
big
commercial
labs
are
still
very
bogged
down.
We
are,
we
in
the
county
are
actively
looking
at
partnering
with
other
labs
that
can
give
us
better
turnaround
time
contact
tracing
capacity
again,
we
we've
actually
gotten
more
contact
tracers
from
the
through
the
state
program,
and
so
we
feel
pretty
good
about
that.
A
That,
yes,
so
on
that
point,
I
understand
we're
fortunate
to
have
a
hospital
there's
a
lot
of
capacity
here
in
asheville.
So
oh
thank
you
so,
but
the
the
number
of
hospitalizations
is
is
going
up
quite
a
bit
as
a
percentage
right.
So
I
heard
it
was
around
20
just
a
few
weeks
ago
and
now
it's
40.
So
that's
a
doubling
in
a
pretty
short
period
of
time,
and
I
know
it
fluctuates.
You
know
day
to
day.
A
R
A
R
And
so,
as
I
was
talking
about
the
syndromic
surveillance,
so
this
is
a
graph
that
comes
out
of
nc
detect
and
what
that
is
is
a
system
that
looks
at.
Why
are
people
going
to
emergency
departments?
What
are
they
being
seen
for
and
so
cli
is
covet-like
illness,
and
so
what
this
is
showing
is
the
percent
of
emergency
department
visits
in
western
north
carolina
for
covet-like
illness,
and
this
is
data
for
the
week
ending
july
11th.
R
That's
the
last
data
point
on
the
on
the
graph,
and
so
this
is
one
of
the
factors
that
the
state
is
tracking
they're,
tracking
pivot,
like
illness,
across
the
state
and
by
region,
and
so
this
is
showing
you.
The
gray
line
is
where
we're
at
right
now,
in
terms
of
this
this
year,
the
prior
years
there
wasn't
covid
but
covid
like
illnesses.
You
know
the
symptoms
overlap
with
influenza
like
illness.
R
So,
overall,
I
you
know
when
we
look
at
what
the
state's
looking
at
right,
coveted
like
illness,
the
the
number
of
cases,
the
percent
positive,
the
hospitalizations,
when
we
look
at
all
that
stuff,
nothing's
really
going
in
the
right
direction,
and
you
know
the
capacity
of
health
departments
to
handle
all
this
again.
This
is
not
unique
to
bunker,
but
I
would
say
all
the
health
departments
in
the
state
are
struggling
to
to
manage
these
volumes.
R
R
That's
really
going
to
have
much
more
of
an
impact
than
all
the
contact
racing
in
the
world,
so
we
are
all
across
the
state
working
as
hard
as
we
can
to
to
to
do
everything
we're
supposed
to
do,
but
we
really
really
really
need
the
community
to
step
up
and
you
know
not
not
go
out
if
you
don't
need
to
go
out
and
wear
those
face
coverings
and
keep
that
physical
distance
in
terms
of
you
know,
you've
you've
asked
before
like
so
is
there
a?
Is
there
a
commonality?
R
Is
there
a
link?
Where
are
people
getting
it
and
and
what
I
would
say
is
in
general,
it's
you
know,
wherever
they're
having
close
contact
with
others
outside
their
household
and
not
wearing
their
their
face
coverings
like
we
are
hearing
we're
interviewing
people
who
are
going
on
to
family
reunions,
who
are
going
on
family
vacations,
who
are
who
are
going
to
parties
who
are
who
are
doing
things
that
are
normal
in
a
normal
world.
R
We
are
not
in
a
normal
world,
and
so
it's
very
alarming
to
us
when
people
are
engaging
in
behavior
as
if
there
is
no
covid.
When
there
is
clearly
covet
all
around
us-
and
so
you
know-
workplaces
right,
workplaces,
households,
once
you
get
one
case
of
covet
in
a
household,
it
is
extremely
likely
that
everyone
in
that
household
is
going
to
get
it,
which
is
why
the
state,
when
they
recently
redid
their
education
materials
for
people
who
are
they're
tested.
R
R
You
know
so
you
know
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
in
terms
of
long-term
care
facilities.
You
know
we're
now
at
we're
still
10
active
outbreaks.
We
have
had
two
that
were
able
to
close
their
outbreaks.
They
got
to
the
end,
and
you
know
the
some
of
the
more
recent
outbreaks
have
been
smaller
in
scale.
We
do
have
one
of
our
newer
ones.
That
is
a
little
larger
and
they're
they're
doing
their
testing
and
we're
doing
a
site
visit
actually
today
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
to
assist
them.
R
We
have
four
that
are
scheduled
for
testing
through
the
state
initiative
that,
through
cvs,
omni
health
and
so
four
facilities,
we
are
aware
of
are
having
testing
the
end
of
july.
Through
early
august,
more
of
those
facilities
will
be
scheduled
and
then
seven
of
our
16
adult
care
homes
have
done
baseline
testing
and
we're
again
working
with
them
to
to
see
how
we
can
get
them
doing.
Testing.
R
R
I'm
I've
reached
out
to
other
clinical
partners
in
the
area
and
some
have
prior
obligations
for
testing
and
aren't
able
to
help
at
this
time,
and
so
I've
talked
with
other
health
departments
across
the
state
about
how
are
they
doing
community
testing
and
so
some
have
hospital
systems
or
health
systems
at
federal,
qualified
health
centers?
Who
are
able
to
do
the
testing?
Some
health
departments
are
actually
doing
community
testing,
it's
a
huge
investment
of
staff
and
time,
and
so
I
was
talking
with
avril
earlier.
R
Trying
to
figure
out-
where
do
we
go
from
here,
and
is
this
something
that
we
we
take
on,
because
we,
if
we
can
find
no
clinical
partner
to
do
this,
but
it's
going
to
take
more
staff
than
what
we
have
currently
in
order
to
manage
the
the
registration
of
patients.
The
other.
The
other
thing
we're
running
into
testing
sites.
Is
that
because
of
the
nature
of
the
drive-through,
it's
really
hard
to
like
screen
people
while
they're
in
line
and
say
who
deserves
testing,
who
meets
criteria
who
doesn't?
R
And
so
again
this
is
not
unique
to
us,
but
across
the
state,
people
aren't
getting
turned
away
for
testing
and
so
that
what
that
means
is
some
people
are
probably
getting
testing
that
don't
meet
criteria,
and
so
the
best
practice,
I
guess,
is
to
do
phone
phone
call,
registration
and
screening
and
a
lot.
You
know,
schedule
people
for
an
allotment
of
time
that
can
avoid
some
of
the
backup
and
traffic.
R
H
H
So
we
would
want
to
understand
if
you
want
us
to
continue
community
and
then
give
us
that
directive
and
we'll
go
back
and
look
at
a
proposal
of
what
we
can
do.
Maybe
it's
one
day
a
week,
two
days
a
week.
I
know
we
talked
to
guilford
county
and
they
have
60
staff
members
doing
their
community
testing.
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
go
that
big,
but
what
would
it
look
like
for
us
if
you
decide
that
we
want
to
continue
doing
the
free
community
testing?
R
Mission,
my
care
now
is
doing
that.
But
for
the
massive
like,
where
we're
you
know,
ideally
where
people
who
don't
have
the
ability
to
go
to
their
healthcare
provider
or
maybe
where
they
don't,
that
extra
cost
of
the
telehealth
visit
that
is
required
when
you
go
to
like
an
urgent
care
or
a
mayheck
for
people
who
don't
have
another
option.
C
D
R
D
C
That
and
make
sure
we're
getting
good
testing
accurate
testing
and
testing
the
people
that
we
need
to,
because
when
I'm
out
with
in
you
know
in
the
in
the
community
people,
that's
what
people
want
to
know
that
we're
doing
yeah
but
we're
actually
testing
people
we're
doing
the
right
way.
We're
getting
accurate
testing.
You
know
and.
D
C
R
C
C
R
What
I
would
say
about
these
testing
sites,
like
I
mentioned
currently,
you
know,
labcorp
has
been
who
we've
been
using,
and
we
know
that
their
results
are
they're
bogged
down,
we're
maybe
getting
them
seven
to
ten
days
later,
which
doesn't
help
us
in
any
way.
So
this
new
lab
that
michael,
hopefully,
is
working
with
on
the
contract
with
we
can
get
results
within
48
hours,
like
that's
golden
that
that
will
help
us
so
much.
P
To
answer
your
question,
mr,
I
would
echo
commissioner
belcher
and
would
support
a
pretty
aggressive
approach
on
our
part.
I
know
this
is
not
one
of
the
traditional
roles
of
a
county
but,
as
you
say,
these
are
nothing
is
normal
about
right
now,
so
I
think
in
in
that
vacuum
and
in
the
need-
and
unfortunately
I
think
the
continued
growth
in
cases
we're
all
projecting.
P
Q
Q
Q
H
Without
the
provider
I
don't,
we
don't
have
a
testing
site
for
thursday
and
sunday
so
this
week,
that's
right
so
this
week
it's
only
the
one
we
did
today.
So
we
won't
have
anything.
So
we
need
to
get
it
quickly
and
we
might
have
not
have
anything
this
week,
but
starting
next
week
or
so
we'll
try
to
ramp
that
up
and
have
something
available
for
the
community
within
the
next
week.
A
D
Q
R
Q
Q
R
Q
R
R
A
So
I
guess
just
you
know
my
last
question
on
this.
We
need
to
adjourn
for
the
next
meeting,
but
the
you
know-
and
I
I
hear
you
that
you
know
really
all
all
anytime
people
are
getting
together,
especially
if
they're
indoors
and
they're
close
together
for
very
long.
You
know
there's
a
risk
of
if
someone's
got
it
to
transmit
it.
D
A
Transmission
and
then
our
neighboring
states
have
even
more
than
north
carolina
right.
So
as
much
as
this
growth
has
happened
here,
I
guess
part
of
what
we're
fortunate
for
is
at
least
relatively
speaking.
We
were
building
off
a
smaller
base,
then
they
they
were
already
high
and
now
they're
going
way
up.
So
so
I
do.
I
would
you
know
I'll
look
at
the
information,
but
as
we
go
forward,
I
think
we're
just
also
going
to
continue
to
want
to
you
know,
hear
from
our
health
officials
about
what
do
we
need
to
do.
A
I
mean
we're
not
right
at
some
kind
of
breaking
point
right
now,
but
if
we
do
need
to
take
other
policies,
we
need
to
put
them
in
place
before
we
get
to
there,
because
once
you
get
there,
you
know
it's
it's
you
know
things
don't
happen
overnight,
so
I
just
you
know.
I
think
I
think
we
probably
all
hear
a
lot
of
concerns
about
folks
coming
into
the
region
from
these
neighboring
states,
which
are
the
hot
spots
of
not
just
the
country
of
the
world
right
now
right.
A
So
just
you
know,
I
would
ask
our
staff
to
to
the
extent
that
we
can
suss
out
that
what
are
the
big
drivers
of
this
big
increase
like
we
want
to
understand
that,
like
you
know,
when
the
re-openings
processes
started
several
weeks
ago,
these
numbers
have
gone
up
right,
so
is
it
you
know?
Is
it
the
restaurants?
Is
it
you
know
just
yeah,
and
I
know
it's
pervasive,
but.
A
Even
if
we
do
it
as
safely
as
we
possibly
can
we're
talking
about
getting
people
together
periodically,
even
though
it's
at
lower
numbers
than
traditionally
would
it
would
be.
So
I
just
ask
that
you
keep
us
posted
and
you
know
we.
We
welcome
your
input
on
what
just
what
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
we
get
through
this.
Until
hopefully
we
have.