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Description
In this special meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' they conduct interviews for the Tourism and Development Board and the Civic Center Board.
A
Perfect,
okay,
all
right!
I'm
going
to
call
this
meeting
special
meeting
of
the
buncon
county
commission
to
order
purpose
is
to
conduct
interviews
with
applicants
for
the
tourism
development
authority
and
the
civic
center
commission
we're
not
making
any
votes
or
decisions
here
today
we're
just
going
to
interview
these
folks
who've
applied
for
these
two
public
boards.
So
the
first
one
is
the
tourism
development
authority
position
and
the
applicant
is
brenda
durden
brenda.
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
some
time
to
talk
with
us
today
and
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
tourism
development
authority.
A
Okay,
great
well,
I
I
was
just
saying
thank
you
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
tourism
development
authority
board.
We
appreciate
you
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
for
a
few
minutes,
so
we
just
have
a
few
questions
and
should
only
take
about
10
minutes.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
for
being
with
us.
A
Okay,
so
to
just
get
started,
could
you
just
share
a
little
bit
with
us?
I
mean
we
have
your
application
here,
but
just
a
little
bit
about
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
tda
and
any
kind
of
experience
and
qualifications
you
want
to
share,
along
with
your
interest
in
serving.
B
Certainly,
I've
spent
my
entire
life
working
in
tourism.
I'm
a
buncombe
county
resident
and
being
our
citizens
prosper
and
being
a
part
of
helping
people
develop.
Their
careers
has
been
something
very
important
to
me
through
my
life.
I
have
worked
with
my
current
company
for
30
years
and
had
positions
prior
to
that.
So
I've
certainly
seen
asheville
and
buncombe
county
in
really
good
times
and
really
bad
times,
and
it's
real
important
to
me
to
help
us
back
to
the
good
times.
B
I
I
feel
very
strongly
that
we
have
to
be
a
good
voice
for
our
tourism
employees
and
all
of
the
other
businesses
in
our
area.
We've
got
to
do
the
right
thing
and
it
it
means
a
lot
to
me.
One
of
the
cornerstones
of
our
company
has
been
our
community
service
and
the
things
we've
been
able
to
do
as
a
hospitality
community,
and
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
anything
bigger
that
we
can
do
to
make
that
happen.
B
A
C
Commissioner
belcher
hope
you're
having
a
good
day.
I
have
just
one
question
for
you.
I
think
you
answered
may
have
answered
some
of
it,
but
you
know
how
do
you
see
in
your
role
meeting
the
needs
and
communication
throughout
the
entirety
of
buncombe
county.
B
Our
in
my
in
my
company
and
my
role,
I
I
deal
with
all
levels
of
team
members
and
I'm
very
hands-on.
I
have
a
really
good
grasp
on
what
people
are
facing
and
what
people
are
doing.
I've
been
a
part
of
the
asheville
buncombe
hotel
association,
so
I've
I've.
I
see
that
part
of
it.
I
see
many
aspects
and
I
feel
like
that
makes
me
a
good
candidate,
because
I'm
able
to
take
that
I
had
the
good
fortune
of
a
strengths
assessment
and
my
top
strength
is
a
creator.
B
Now,
let
me
say
that
does
not
mean
I
can
do
more
than
draw
a
circle.
I
certainly
cannot
but
being
a
creator.
You
have
to
pick
things
apart
and
fully
understand
them
before
you
can
make
decisions
and
move
forward,
and
I
think
that
is
a
strength
that
I
bring
to
the
table
that
can
help,
because
I
want
to
fully
understand
all
sides
of
all
things
before
I
make
decisions
and
suggestions.
A
All
right
so
brenda
I
had
a
question
and
it's
you
know
it's
really
a
question
that
ultimately
the
state
legislature
has
to
address,
because
obviously
this
the
buncombe
county
hotel
occupancy
policy
is
based
on
state
legislation.
It's
not
something
that
the
county
commission
decides
or
the
tda
board
decides.
A
But
it's
you
know
it's
a
topic,
as
I'm
sure
you
know,
of
strong
community
interest,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
if
you
would,
you
know,
share
any
thoughts
that
you
have
about
your
you
know
perspective
on
this
question.
A
A
You
know
we
also
hear
from
folks
who
are
interested
in
how
the
public
can
have
input
on
these.
You
know
these
investment
decisions
in
the
future,
which
could
go
to
the
in
the
composition
of
the
board
right
now,
of
course,
it's
it's
primarily
hotel
industry,
folks,
who
are
on
the
board,
there's
been
some
discussion
about,
perhaps
perhaps
broadening
that
out
for
more
community
perspectives
on
that
too.
So,
would
you
mind
kind
of
sharing
your
perspective
on
those
issues,
even
though
neither
you
know
none
of
us,
you
know.
A
B
All
right
well,
I
certainly
do
not
think
it's
the
role
of
tda
to
try
to
change
legislation.
However,
in
being
a
part
of
the
asheville
bunker
hotel
association,
I
certainly
am
in
favor
of
trying
to
make
some
adjustments
as
the
rest
of
the
group
was.
I
do
think
that
there's
room
for
a
lot
of
conversation.
B
We
are
in
a
very
different
place
than
we
have
been
in
the
past
and
it's
time
to
have
some
really
open
discussion
about
what
that
should
look
like
I.
I
do
not
think
that
the
same
thing
over
and
again
is
necessarily
the
answer,
but
you
know,
but
that's
a
group
decision
I
feel
strongly
about.
Everybody
gets
a
voice
and
we
need
to
have
that
opportunity
to
look
at
what
does
our
future
look
like?
B
A
B
B
A
All
right
well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
this.
You
know,
as
as
you
said,
you
know,
the
this
has
been
a
very
tough
year,
for
you
know
for
really
the
whole
community
the
whole
the
whole
economy,
the
whole
country-
and
you
know
the
tourism
part
of
our
economy
has
been
hit.
A
You
know
it's
harder
harder
than
anything,
and
you
know
we're
all
hopeful
that
we're
going
to
move
beyond
this
covet
19
health.
You
know
challenge
in
the
coming
months
in
that,
as
you
said,
you
know
the
way
things
look
in
six
months
from
now
will
be
very
different
than
the
way
they
look
today
and
we're
all
interested
in
how
we
can
support
you
know
bringing
the
economy
back
to
to
a
stronger
place,
but
I
appreciate
your
thoughts
on
all
these
questions.
A
You
know,
as
we
do
get
hopefully
back
to
something
more
like
normal.
I
think
some
of
these
these
policy
questions
are
going
to
be
important.
Questions
for
us
to,
I
think,
work
together
to
come
up
with
a
you
know,
a
sense
for,
for
what
makes
you
know
the
best
use
of
those
resources
going
forward.
So
I
really
appreciate
hearing
your
thoughts
on
that
and
thank
you
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
today.
D
A
Hey
jasmine,
can
you
can
you
hear
blue,
hey
rick?
This
is
brownie
newman.
How
are
you
good?
How
are
you
brother,
hey
good,
good,
I'm
here
with
all
the
other
commissioners,
our
staff
have
indicated
you
might
be
having
trouble
with
the
connecting
via
zoom.
So
I
think
we're
just
gonna
do
a
phone
interview.
If
that's
okay
with
you.
A
B
A
Okay,
yes
jasmine,
was
that
you
speaking.
A
Okay,
perfect,
we
were
just
checking
all
right,
rick.
Sorry,
we
were
checking
in
with
commissioner
jasmine
b
ferrara,
who
is
also
calling
in
for
the
meeting
and
listening
in
on
facebook.
So
hey!
Thank
you
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
today
about
your
interest
in
the
civic
center
commission.
A
We
have
just
a
few
questions
for
you,
so
it
should
just
take
only
probably
less
than
10
minutes,
but
would
you
like
to
start
off
by
just
sharing
a
little
bit
about
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
civic
center
commission
and
any
you
know,
kind
of
relevant
experience
and
qualifications
you
bring
to
that
work.
E
Because
I've
just
been
involved
at
the
civic
center
for
a
few
years
of
volunteering
and
helping
with
events
doing
the
coat
checks
for
the
christmas
jams
and
doing
working
with
depth
with
the
sports
commission
on
all
the
sports
events,
did
the
tennis
and
all
those
when
we
had
the
ladies
come
in
for
the
tennis
tournament
and
I
just
enjoy.
You
know
everybody
down,
there's
just
so
great
to
work
with
the
staff.
Is,
you
know
very
friendly
and
kind,
but
I
just
enjoy
volunteering
down
there.
You
know
being
involved.
C
Okay,
good,
so
the
question
I
have
about
the
civic
center,
I
want
to
get
your
thoughts
on
you
know,
expanding
its
outreach
and,
having
you
know
more
variety,
particularly
in
the
music
industry,
but
you
know
what
your
thoughts
are
in.
C
You
know,
bringing
additional
you,
know,
music
and
and
shows
that
you
know
reach
out
to
a
wider
base.
E
I
guess
I
would
see
doing
you
know
some
more
smaller
events
and
maybe
including
youth
events,
people
that
maybe
feel
that
they
aren't
being
looked.
You
know,
like
the
people
of
color
events,.
E
Different
kind
of
events
that
would
be
appealing
to
more
people,
rather
than
just
you
know,
a
regular
rock
and
roll
show.
E
You
know
I've
done
a
lot
of
comedy
events,
poetry,
slams
and
stuff
like
that
that
are
within
you
know:
family
friendly
events,
nothing
off,
color,
all
right
thanks!
You
know
the
sporting
sporting
events
are
always
a
big
hit
when
you
know
after
we
get
past
this
co-ed
mess.
E
A
Rick
we
wanted
to
ask
you
a
question
related
to
future
improvements
to
the
civic
center
and
thomas
wolfe,
and
you
know
what
are
your
thoughts
on
that
you
know.
There's
been
a
proposal
put
forward
a
lot
of
it's
focused
on
the
thomas
wolf's
side,
but
you
know
up
to.
I
think
it
was
100
million
dollars,
but
you
know
and
there's
all
kinds
of
incremental
improvement
projects
that
have
been
done
over
the
years
and
and
are
on
the
list
of
things
that
people
would
like
to
see
done.
A
A
E
Isn't
there
gonna
be
some
upgrades
to
thomas
wolfe?
I
was
thinking
there
was
someone
something
in
the
works
there.
What
are
the
thomas
hillside?
Has
that
already
been?
Has
upgrades
already
been
done
to
clear
it.
A
Well,
there
was
there
was
some
proposals
made
that,
were,
you
know,
really
big
ticket.
You
know
like
hundred
million
dollar
plans
to
completely
redo
the
facility.
So
but
that's
just
an
idea
at
this
point,
I
don't
you
know
it's
just
kind
of
a
concept.
You
know
what
they.
A
E
A
A
All
right,
well,
rick!
Thank
you
again.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
other
questions
so,
like
I
said
we're
just
doing
some
brief
interviews
with
the
applicants.
We
appreciate
you
taking
time
to
talk
with
us
for
a
few
minutes,
and
so
thank
you
for
all
the
great
work
you've
already
put
into
the
civic
center
and
we
appreciate
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
board.
A
A
On
what
time
does
the
early
childhood
education
start?
Okay,.
A
A
A
B
C
It
really
did,
I
mean
it
was
over
the
top
and
as
a
member
of
the
tda
I
hadn't
heard
a
word
about
it.
It
was
kind
of
you
know,
hey
they're,
going
we're
going
to
have
a
report
and
you
know
well
I'm
going
to
go.
I
went
and
went
holy
cow
where'd.
This
come
from
and
I
don't
know
it
kind
of
reminded
me
a
little
bit
like
the
conversation
of
on
the
performing
arts
center.
You
know
that
there's
a
there's
been
a
group.
C
A
F
Sure
so
I
have
lived
in
asheville
for
20
years
and
I
own
chevron
events,
which
is
an
event
management
group.
We
do
corporate
events,
weddings
just
about
any
event
that
you
can
think
of.
F
Organization
is
very
important
to
me
and
I
just
really
think
that
with
the
growth
of
the
civic
center-
and
you
know,
I
think,
the
vision
of
where
it's
headed,
I
think
I
could
contribute
to
not
only
a
community
aspect
but
also
a
development
aspect.
As
far
as
what
style
and
types
of
you
know,
national
events,
I
think
we
could
bring
into
the
area.
F
A
C
Yeah
shea
commissioner
belcher
good
at
good
afternoon.
I
just
had
a
question
for
you
and
I
think
you
hit
on
a
little
bit.
You
know
what
your
thoughts
were
in
being
able
to
bring
more
from
a
music
venue
standpoint
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
to
you
know
more
genres
since
we're
in
the
western
part
of
the
county,
the
mountain,
the
mountains
and
you
know,
and
have
a
lot
of
other
other.
C
You
know
I
have
particular
interest
in
you
know
bluegrass
and
southern
gospel,
and
you
know
those
could
be
in
big
events,
but
you
know
other
other
options
that
the
civic
center
might
have
in
increasing
its
outreach
and
its
attendance.
Just
your
thoughts
on
that.
F
So
I
absolutely
think
that
there's
room
for
growth
there
I
work
with
several
national
companies,
booking
entertainment
for
other.
C
F
That
I
do,
I
have
a
roster
of
performers
that
you
know
I
could
help
pull
from
I'm
happy
to
consult
on
any
of
that,
but
we
have
a
really
nice
demographic
here
in
the
asheville
area,
with
entertainment,
recording
you
know
being
able
to
bring
in
entertainment,
I
think
both
on
a
local
as
far
as
like
opening
acts
that
are
growing
within
this
region
and
then
also
national
acts.
F
C
Yeah
I'd
also,
you
know
appreciate
your
comment
on
local.
You
know
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
national
brands
and
you
know
groups
and
such
they
drive
out.
You
know
the
locals
and
you
can
actually
I
mean
you
can
have
local
days
at
just
about
anything
and
bring
in
local
artists
and
probably
pack
a
place
out
if
it's
done
right,
but
anyhow
I'll
get
on
and
run
on
that,
and
I
don't
want
to.
I
appreciate
your
appreciate
your
answer.
Thanks.
A
Absolutely
so
shay,
what's
your
you
know,
there
was
a
proposal
back
in
february
to
invest
100
million
dollars
in
renovating
the
thomas
wolfe
auditorium.
What's
your
perspective
on
that.
F
So
I
definitely
think
that
there
needs
to
be
some
some
updates
and
remodeling
to
the
thomas
wolf
in
the
on
the
same
hand,
I
also
feel
like,
with
all
of
the
with
the
size
of
the
thomas,
wolf
and
the
size
of
the
civic
center.
F
I
just
really
feel
like
that
needs
to
be
and
need
to
be
looked
at
hand
in
hand,
because
I
also
think
there
needs
to
be
some
upgrades
to
the
civic
center
itself,
not
just
the
thomas
wolves.
F
I
have
done
some
work
at
this
global
forum.
I
cannot
say
that
word,
but
in
nashville
tennessee
and
looking
at
I
came
to
the
presentation
that
they
did
for
the
thomas
wolfe
and
looking
at
the
presentation
and
the
development
I
mean
it's
it's
a
beautiful
structure.
I
was
a
little
concerned
about
a
couple
of
just
visually
when
I
was
looking
at
it.
F
That
kind
of
came
up
when
I
was
looking
at
the
architectural
layout
of
everything,
but
I
I
definitely
think
it's
needed.
I
think
it
will
only
contribute
to
the
size
of
events
we
can
have
and
also
when
you
look
at
pairing
that
over,
like
I
don't
know,
if
there's
a
way
to
also
contribute
some
of
that
money
to
the
civic
center.
F
But
there
are
some,
I
think,
structural
improvements
that
could
be
done
there
and
I
don't
know
you
know
the
background
of
if
those
are
hand
in
hand
or
if
they
are
two
completely
different.
You
know
venues
that
are
looking
at
money,
but
that's
that
would
be
something
that
I
would
really
consider.
A
A
And
do
you
think
that
that's
I
mean,
I
guess
just
my
follow-up
question
and
you
know
if
you're
on
the
board
of
the
civic
center
commission,
I
mean
in
a
way
your
your
job
is,
of
course,
to
advocate
for
it
and
you
know
think
about
the
best
future.
For
it
I
mean,
I
think,
a
lot
of
people
think
that
spending
that
much
money
on
the
civic
center
probably
doesn't
make
sense
in
light
of
other
community
priorities.
F
F
I
haven't
you're
putting
me
on
the
spot.
Well,
I
agree
that
it's
a
lot
of
money,
but
I
also
think
you
know
in
light
of
covet
and
everything
that
has
happened
in
the
asheville
area.
You
know
in
the
last
six
months
it
kind
of
changes
that
outlook
and
demographic
of
things.
I
think
it
has
for
everybody.
F
I
definitely
think
that
it
is
needed
and
until
I
really
see
that
you
know
that
the
back
end
of
cost
and
how
things
you
know
are
being
presented,
I
don't
know
what
the
actual
cost
would
be,
but
I
do
think
that.
F
That
amount
of
money
if
it
was
split
again
between
both
doing
some
improvements
for
thomas
wolfe
and
also
for
the
semi-civic
center.
A
Okay,
well,
shea,
I
think
you've
answered
the
questions
we
had
you
is
there
anything
else.
You
would
like
to
share
with
the
board
that
we
haven't
asked
about.
F
No,
not
at
all,
I
just
am
very
interested
in
you
know
where
the
development
of
the
civic
center
is
headed,
and
I
hope
you
will.
You
know,
take
my
experience
and
my
background
into
consideration.
And
if
you
have
any
further
questions
for
me,
please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
anything
for
you.
A
D
A
So
we
don't
see
you
we
just
see
like
yeah.
No,
we
can't
see.
D
Okay,
yeah.
A
D
Sure
well,
first:
well,
who
am
I,
who
am
I
speaking
to
who's
in
the
room.
A
Yeah
yeah
a
fair
question,
so
all
the
members
of
the
county
commission
are
here,
commissioner.
Jasmine
beach,
ferrara
couldn't
be
physically
here,
but
she's
listening
in
as
well,
and
this
interview
is
being
broadcast.
Live
on,
facebook
live
as
well,
so
there's
probably
some
members
of
the
community
just
watching
listening
in
as
well.
D
Wonderful
well,
thank
you
for
having
me
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
for
for
those
of
you
watching
at
home.
I
hope
you
enjoy
and
I
hope
I
perform
admirably.
I
am
a
theater
artist
by
trade
and
by
training,
but
also
a
business
person.
D
I
have
an
mba
from
wake
forest
and
I
run
a
business
local
business
here
in
town
called
bright
star
touring
theater.
We
are
a
children's
theater
and
I
also
have
been
serving
on
the
board
of
the
asheville
area
arts
council
for
about
six
years
now,
and
so
you
know
my
my.
I
think
that
what
I
would
offer
to
the
board
is,
you
know,
I'm
a
long-standing
resident
of
the
county-
I'm
not.
I
wasn't
originally
born
here,
but
I
kind
of
got
here
as
soon
as
I
could.
D
I
came
here
straight
out
of
college
and
I've
been
here
since
2002
I've.
You
know,
really
enjoyed
a
lot
of
the
programming
that
has
been
at
the
civic
center
and
I've
enjoyed
the
concerts
and
the
sports
events,
and-
and
I
am
somewhat
concerned
that
as
time
has
gone
on,
some
of
the
arts
programming
has
gotten.
E
D
Has
it
seems,
like
arch
programming,
has
gone
to
the
wayside
a
little
bit
as
opposed
to
you
know,
live
rock
concerts
and
sports,
and
things
and-
and
I
think
that
the
civic
center
has
the
opportunity
to
be
a
very
integral
part
of
our
community
that
is
enjoyed
by
a
much
wider
group.
D
So
I
I
can
envision
a
space
that
serves
community
artists
that
serves
as
for
conferences
that
serves
for
all
sorts
of
of
constituents
in
our
community,
not
just
visitors
from
out
of
town
and
not
just
people
who
are
coming
in
for
the
night
or
for
a
christmas
gym
or
whatever
happens,
to
be
the
case,
and
so
I
would
be
joining
the
board
with
those
things
in
mind.
First,
is
you
know
is,
does
it
make
a
smart?
D
Is
it
can
we
make
a
smart
business
case
for
increased
expenditures
on
a
civic
center,
especially
during
the
during
the
time
that
we're
currently
at,
and
how
do
we
plan
for
that
and
how
do
we
roll
it
out,
and
how
do
we
get
community
buy-in
if
that's
something
that
that
we
need
to
develop
or
is
it
or
is
it
already
there?
So
I've
got
quite
a
bit
of
experience
from
my
work
as
an
artist
and
and
I'm
also
an
educator.
D
I
worked
at
art
space
charter
school
for
many
years
before
working
here
with
brightstar,
and
I
would
like
to
see
an
educational
component
into
whatever
the
civic
center
sees
itself
being
and
making
itself
available
for
local
schools,
local
public
schools,
private
schools,
you
know
so
that
they
can
have
access
to
some
of
the
things
that
we
bring
to
it
as
well,
because
I
I
don't
think
of
any
of
the
things
that
the
city
or
the
county
does
as
being
separate
from
the
community
that
it
serves.
C
Hey
josh,
commissioner
belcher.
Can
you
hear
me
okay,.
C
Okay,
can
you
just
you
you
touched
on
a
little
bit
expand
on.
You
know
how
you
would
get
the
civic
center
to
to
attract
a
wider
variety
of
acts.
It's
not
necessarily
the
right
word,
but
you
know
music
genres,
and
I
mean
you
know
we're
in
a
corner
of
the
state
that
can
reach
out
to
you,
know
four
or
five
states
very
easily
and
bring
you
know
whether
it's
you
know
you
know
bluegrass
southern
gospel.
C
You
know
all
kinds
of
different
things
that
you
know
might
not
necessarily
be
the
biggest
draw
you
know
in
in
town,
but
might
draw
you
know
regionally,
and
I
just
want
to
see
your
thoughts
on
maybe
reaching
out
and
some
different
genres
and
things
so.
D
D
Is
well
versed
in
in
the
music
industry
in
particular
and
that
they,
you
know,
are
a
booking
agent
and
they
understand
what
is
what
is
popular
with
our
community
with
our
community
is
more
plugged
into
it
than
that.
That's
you
know.
I
would
not
think
that
the
job
of
a
person
on
on
this
particular
council
would
be
to
to
manage
the
programming.
D
E
D
And-
and
so
what
I
would
be
interested
in
is
how
can
we
creatively
use
this?
Make
the
space
usable
make
the
space
accessible
so
that
it's
not
just
a
special
event
thing
that
you
know,
but
it's
also
it's
actually
a
practical
part
of
the
fabric
of
our
community
and
what
that
looks.
Like
you
know,
I,
it
really
depends
on
on
how
we
roll
out
our
plans
and
what
guidance
we
give
to
whatever
architects
and
whatever
designers
we
involve
in
the
process,
but
I
would
but
I,
but
I
would
be
a
voice
that
would
say
hey.
D
Are
we
creating?
You
know
small,
smaller
spaces
within
the
large
space
that
perhaps
local
you
know,
theater
groups
or
local
art,
artists,
or
you
know,
or
maybe
acts
that
would
draw
a
smaller
crowd,
but
still
a
substantial
crowd
could
use
so
that
we're
not
you
know,
wasting
any
any
space
within
the
in
the
in
the
area.
You
know
I'm
sure
it's
a
complicated
picture,
you
know,
but
I
would
but
that,
but
I
would
I
would
I
would
defer
to
someone
with
more
expertise
in
programming.
C
C
A
All
right,
josh,
hey
so
so
one
question
I
wanted
to
ask:
is
you
know
back
in
february,
which
seems
like
a
long
time
ago
now
I
know
for
all
of
us
the,
but
there
was
a
proposal
that
was
rolled
out
that
recommended
investing
100
million
dollars
in
renovations
to,
I
think
was
mostly
on
the
thomas
wolfe
side
of
the
facility,
but
100
million
dollars.
So
what's
your
what's
your
perspective
on
that
proposal,.
D
Well,
that's
a
big,
that's
a
that's
a
lot
of
money
in
a
for
a
small
town,
but
we
have
to,
but
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
reason
to
not
set
high
goals,
and
so
I
would
be
very
interested
to
be
talking
with
the
the
city
and
the
county
and
the
the
development
staff
that
that
rolled
out.
That
number
to
say.
Well,
you
know:
how
would
we,
how
do
we
create
that
and
then,
more
importantly,
if
we're
going
to
be
creating
that
funding
through
purely
tax
revenue,
you
know
we
need
to
do.
D
D
I
can
see
a
hundred
million
dollars
being
used
on
a
on
such
a
space
when
you
think
about
all
of
the
amount
of
funding
that
goes
into
athletic
facilities,
or
you
know
school
buildings
and
physical
plants,
and
things
like
that,
and
I
can
see
it
being
a
valuable
investment
not
just
for
the
tourism
industry,
but
also,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
just
for
the
tourism
industry
alone
and
it's
not
just
about
bringing
attractions
to
to
town,
but
also,
for
being,
you
know,
day-to-day
usability
of
the
space,
and
I
honestly
think
that
it
could
probably
recoup
some
of
its
own
investment
through
earned
income.
D
If
we,
if
we're
smart
about
how
you
how
we
can
utilize
that
space
on
the
day-to-day
basis,
you
know
we,
I
don't
want
to
see
a
big
chunk
of
downtown
being
taken
up
by
a
building
that
sits
empty
for
most
of
the
of
the
work
week.
That
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
but
if
we
find
a
way
to
to
to
create
mixed
use,
to
create
to
create
value,
for
you
know
whether
it's
classrooms
or
or
or
meetings
or
public
meetings,
or
so
we
create
value
for
a
variety
of
different
civic
interests,
then
yeah.
D
I
think
that
that
could
be
a
wise
investment.
So
it's
a
big
number,
but
also
who
knows
what
100
million
dollars
is
going
to
be
worth
in
five
years,
because
inflation
is
going
up
and
you
know,
there's
so
many
economic
indicators.
So
who
even
knows,
if
that's
the
right
number,
so
I
do
think
that
we,
we
have
a
responsibility
to
figure
out
first,
what
what's
the
what's
the
use
of
the
building
and
what's
the
what's
the
value
not
just
pure
in
terms
of
pure
return
on
investment
in
terms
of
dollars
and
cents?
D
I
do
think
we
need
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
balance
that
in
return.
Somehow,
but
also
in
terms
of
like
you
know,
we've
I
I
can
think
of
this
as
almost
as
an
infrastructure
investment
is
if
this
place
houses,
you
know
some
parts
of
it
could
maybe
houses.
Some
parts
of
government-
maybe
it
houses
certain-
you-
know,
facilities
and
maintenance,
people
in
offices
and
things
if
that
makes
sense.
So
I
really
think
it's
about.
D
You
know
making
sure
that
that
space
becomes
used
and
doesn't
just
it
doesn't
just
sit
there
and
then
come
open
on
the
weekends.
You
know
I
I
wanna
I'd
like
to
see
it
used
creatively
and
I'd
like
to
see
it.
You
know
we
there
could
be
classes
and
lessons
and
all
sorts
of
different
things
that
are
happening
within
the
in
the
civic
center.
Building
that
aren't
necessarily
events
is
my
is
my
opinion.
A
Okay,
all
right,
commissioners
are
there
any
other
questions
all
right,
josh.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
civic
center
commission.
I
think
we're
going
to
make
these
decisions
this
evening
at
our
meeting
later
later
in
the
day.
So,
thanks
for
thanks
for
your
interest
in
serving,
is
there
anything
else
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
that
we
haven't
asked
you
about.