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Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on August 15, 2023. The briefing is a chance for Commissioners to review agenda items before the meeting. No motions will take place during the briefing.
A
Okay
great
and
are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
for
our
regular
meeting
this
evening?
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
just
follow
the
agenda
as
published,
then
for
the
briefing
meeting,
and
the
first
item
is
a
presentation
on
the
2025
reappraisal
schedule.
Keith
Miller
is
here
to
help
us
out
with
this.
B
B
B
Beyond
that,
we
have
also
been
on
the
Carolina
morning's
Carolina
Spotlight
on
WLOS.
The
center
photo
is
at
one
of
our
local
markets.
Again,
the
one
on
the
right
is
that
our
Juneteenth
Festival
downtown
and
then
just
an
overall
caption
of
the
of
the
bottom
Juneteenth
Festival,
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
were
doing
on
Outreach.
B
We
in
conjunction
with
Orlando
Scott,
Rogers,
Association
and
physical
legal.
We
put
on
the
appeal
clinics
for
all
of
our
residents,
who
wanted
assistance
and
better
understanding
of
that.
We
did
lunch
and
learns
for
the
Realtors
to
help
them
ask
them
to
for
their
clients
that
they
could
talk
more
about
tax,
about
listing
their
improvements
about
appeals
and
again,
we
will
continue
to
be
out
in
the
community
as
far
as
our
and
our
community
centers
at
our
markets,
homeowners
associations.
B
We
have
been
doing
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
what
we
call
coffee
with
Keith
we've
been
going
to
H
Department
within
the
county.
We
want
to
First,
educate
our
County
employees
and
ask
them
to
be
our
ambassadors,
as
they
go
out
into
the
community
and
be
able
to
answer
questions
to
their
friends,
family
and
others.
B
This
is
the
property
owner
toolkit
that
you
see
on
the
slide
and
if
you
go
to
tax.bunkumcounty.org
you'll
get
a
landing
page
to
where
you
can
type
in
your
name.
Address
parcel
number
any
of
those
will
work
to
pull
up
your
property.
Your
property
will
pull
up,
you'll,
see
a
picture
of
it.
You'll
be
able
to
review
all
the
information
related
to
it.
Acreage
you'll
be
able
to
see
a
GIS
map
and
then
you'll
also
be
able
to
use
some
of
our
new
tools.
B
One
be
copper:
every
resident
will
have
the
opportunity
to
use
the
pro
the
part
of
the
program
called
copper,
so
they
will
better
understand
what
the
value
of
their
property
is
themselves.
They
will
be
able
the
program
will
pull
comparable
properties
in
their
neighborhoods
that
surround
their
home
and
they
can
see
what
the
values
are
doing
in
their
communities.
Better
Community
is
the
other
piece
that
you
see
there.
Residents
will
be
able
to
focus
on
their
neighborhoods,
not
just
to
them.
They'll
be
focused
on
their
neighborhoods
about,
what's
going
on.
B
In
my
neighborhood,
what
is
the
median
sales
price?
What's
the
sales
ratio?
What
is
what
is
the
increase
from
the
last
reappraisal,
so
just
another
effort
of
us
trying
to
offer
tools
and
be
more
transparent
about
what
we
have
available
along
with
that
we
launched
our
new
app
for
part
of
the
property
owner
toolkit
that
property
owners
can
load
download
on
their
phones
and
have
the
same
capability
that
they
would
have
on
the
website.
B
So
you
can
go
to
that
same
landing,
page
type
in
your
name,
your
address
your
parcel
number
and
have
the
same
capability
on
your
phone
to
do
what
you
would
like
to
do
related
to
your
property,
as
you
would.
If
you
went
to
tax.buttoncounty.org,
we
saw
this
as
a
need
for
those
people
who
do
not
have
internet
but
maybe
have
a
cell
phone
that
gives
them
the
ability
to
get
to
the
information
to
be
able
to
update
it.
They
can
file
appeals.
They
can
pay
their
bill
most
anything
they
can
do
on
the
website.
B
The
next
recommendation
was
increased
capacity
in
the
assessment
office,
so
additional
staff,
real
property,
appraiser
positions
or
fy24
we
receive
two
additional
reclassifications
of
a
part-time
position
to
a
full-time
was
one
and
we
also
entered
a
contract
with
splice
valuation
for
consultant
on
some
of
the
foundational
changes
that
we
will
make
for
the
2025
reappraisal
reorganization
of
the
existing
staff.
We
have
a
dedicated
Appraiser
for
sales
analysts
now
dedicated
Appraiser
for
luxury
homes,
data
analyst
team
of
three
and
a
dedicated
appraisal.
Analyst.
B
That
effort
was
to
reach
out
to
those
folks
who
have
rental
properties,
who
are
not
aware
that
they
should
be
listing
with
Furnishings
in
which
they
provide
to
their
tenants,
create
a
dedicated
reappraisal,
panelist
team
Implement,
a
procedure
for
real
property
listings
and
created
opportunities
for
owners
to
correct
their
property
data
future
and
in
the
process.
We
are
in
the
process
now
of
developing
the
new
community.
Neighborhood
Market
areas
in
which
you
may
have
in
the
past
heard
us
this
referred
to
as
neighborhoods.
B
Sorry,
you
go
back
part
of
the
implementing
the
procedure
for
the
real
property
listening
and
creating
opportunities
for
owners.
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
you.
Maybe
you
received
one
of
these
postcards
I
hope
if
you're
a
property
owner
you
did,
if
you
didn't,
then
I
need
to
get
you
one.
We
mailed
80
000
of
these
to
all
the
property
owners
in
an
effort
to
clean
up
the
data,
make
sure
the
data
is
accurate.
Your
property
owners
the
opportunity
to
respond
to
us
in
the
easiest
way
that
they
can
to.
B
B
This
is
a
software
program
who
which
takes
all
the
sales
data
in
our
system
and
every
night
revalues
all
ninety
thousand
parcels
based
on
the
information
that
comes
in
every
day,
so
every
sales
transaction
that
we
have
come
in
the
day
before
the
system
takes
it.
We
re-value
every
property
in
the
system
every
night.
This
is
a
system
which
our
appraisers
can
use
for
auditing
and
also
be
aware
of
what
another
system
would
value
the
property
at
in
case
that
we
might
be
missing
something
example
of
how
it
works.
B
Improve
the
assessment
data
quality,
here's
the
postcard
that
I
mentioned
again.
We
directly
mailed
approximately
80
000
of
these
to
give
the
property
owners
the
ability
to
correct
that
data,
8
000
responses,
as
of
August
the
7th,
as
of
this
morning,
a
little
greater
than
ten
thousand
responses
to
that
postcard.
So
far,.
B
Photography
related
to
data
quality.
We
will
again,
as
we
have
done
before,
we
will
update
our
street
level.
Photography.
The
company
Cyclone
media
is
who
we
contract
with
cyclomedia
will
drive
these
vehicles
that
you
see
here
in
the
picture
1878
miles
across
the
city
county.
Other
municipalities
Gathering,
as
they
drive
360
degree
photography.
So
our
appraisers
can
see
the
house.
Like
you
see
there,
we
can
see
those
from
the
street.
B
The
next
thing
we
do
as
far
as
data
quality,
aerial
unoblique
photography
we
just
recently
the
plane
just
recently
flown
flew
Buncombe
County
planes
will
fly
over
660
square
miles
and
capture
a
bird's
eye
view.
Oblique
View
and
a
building
footprint
of
all
130
000
parcels
home
on
the
right
is
an
oblique
photography.
B
The
photography
is
at
about
a
45
degree
angle,
which
gives
our
appraisers
the
ability
to
see
the
front
sides
and
the
rear
of
the
home
from
the
photography.
It
also
gives
us
the
bird's
eye
view
which
you
see
in
the
middle
and
the
one
on
the
left
is
the
what
we
call
sketch
inspect,
which
is
identifying
differences
in
the
actual
sketch.
What
this
program
will
do,
is
you
see
the
red
outline
on
the
left-hand
photo?
B
What
that
red
outline
is
telling
us
is
that
there's
been
a
change
on
that
home,
that
the
footprint
does
not
match
what
it
was
before
or
what
it
is
in
our
system.
So
if
there's
something
added
to
the
home,
such
as
an
unpermitted
improvement
or
a
garage
or
just
an
addition,
this
will
identify
it
for
us
so
that
our
appraisers
can
revalue
that
reappraisal
timeline
July
through
December
of
2023.
We
will
continue
the
community
engagement
campaign
and
this
will
go
on
through
April
of
2025..
B
We
have
we're
scheduled
now
out
as
much
as
two
months
as
far
as
meetings
and
things
that
we
currently
have
ready
to
go.
We
will
also
be
testing
the
foundational
changes
to
the
valuation
methodology,
land
valuation,
land,
size
evaluation
influences,
the
building,
quality,
grading
system,
depreciation,
building,
size,
value
influence
and
market
area
delineations
October
through
December
of
23
data
collection
for
the
schedule,
values,
market
analysis,
residential
commercial
questionnaires
will
be
mailed
to
property
owners
and
we
will
analyze
the
data
from
the
aerial
and
the
street
level
photography
January
through
July
of
24.
B
We
will
present
the
schedule
values
in
the
informal
session
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
First
review
of
the
estimated
values
will
be
in
a
20
that
part
of
2024.
July
through
December
of
2024
audit
data
compared
to
the
automated
valuation
estimates
January
of
25.
We
will
have
the
final
values
for
the
reappraisal,
2025
and
the
appeal
period
begins.
B
B
Timeline
for
the
schedule
values.
We
will
be
back
to
the
board
sometime
around
July
of
24.
That
will
be
our
informal
delivery
to
you
of
the
schedule
of
values.
August
of
24
will
be
the
formal
presentation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
we'll
open
a
copy
to
the
public.
A
published
statement
will
be
in
the
paper
for
those
who
would
like
to
review
that
copy
September
of
2024
Board
of
commissioner
approves
and
adopts
the
final
schedule
of
values,
and
that
will
be
advertised
for
four
weeks
in
October
of
24.
D
Yeah
I
have
a
couple.
First
of
all,
thank
you
Keith
for
this
great
presentation
and
all
the
information.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
I
think
not
sure
which
slide
it
was
on,
but
you
said
testing
foundational
changes
to
the
valuation
method.
Can
you
just
explain
more
about
that?
Please,
yes,.
B
So
we
have
identified
those
areas
in
the
mass
appraisal
process
that
most
people
struggle
with
most
in
those
areas
at
which
people
who
struggle
with
most.
We
are
now
going
back
and
visiting
with
our
contractor
as
a
consultant
look
at
how
we
change
those
foundational
pieces-
and
that
is
you
know,
quality
and
great
condition
of
a
building
appreciation,
land
valuation
influences
in
the
land
valuation
as
far
as
size.
D
B
You've
heard
me
before
mentioned
that
we
currently
have
about
2500
what
we
call
neighborhoods.
These
are
Market
areas
all
across
the
county
that
we
had
divided
up
into
Market
areas.
We
are
going
to
read
delineate
all
2500
of
those
to
have
to
go
back
and
revisit
to
see
what
the
market
area
is.
Has
it
changed?
Is
it
the
same?
Does
it
need
to
get
bigger?
Does
it
need
to
get
smaller,
so
that
will
be
the
task
there?
That's
the
review,
all
2500
of
those.
B
B
So
we
will
use
that
mostly
as
an
audit
tool.
So
when
this,
when
this
system
calculates
the
value
every
night,
our
appraisers
will
be
able
to
see
what
that
automated
valuation
model
value
comes
out
to
be,
and
if
that
say,
for
instance,
if
that
came
out
to
be
six
hundred
thousand
and
we
saw
then
the
home
came
out
to
be
valued
at
four
hundred
thousand.
That
should
be
something
that
that
gets
flagged
for
the
appraisers
to
go
back
and
say
why.
Why
is
it
different?
What
did
we
miss
or
what
did
evaluation
model
Miss?
C
Keith
I
want
to
thank
you
for
what
you
all
have
done
to
make
this
a
lot
more
transmit
parent
than
it's
been
in
the
past.
I
can
remember
years
ago,
working
and
banking
people
would
come
in
with
questions
about
reevaluation
this
and
that,
and
it
was
a
struggle
for
us
to
figure
out
what
was
going
on,
let
alone
the
average
person,
but
what
you're
doing
now
is
really
paying
off
and
I
was
helping
one
of
my
relatives
and
stumble
on
the
changes
that's
been
made
on
the
internet.
C
She
thought
I
was
a
rock
star
I
think,
because
of
what
I've
you
know
did
but
keep
up
the
good
work,
because
this
is
what
we
need
to
make
as
transparent
as
it
can
and
I'm
hearing
some
good
things
from
people
about
the
process
that
you
did
and
what
you've
been
doing
as
far
as
your
community
engagement
so
keep
it
up.
Yeah
thank.
B
E
Hello,
sir
Echo,
that
thanks
and
just
ask
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
this
one,
but
for
the
looking
out
to
January
2025,
when
the
appeal
period
begins,
I
assume
you're
going
to
continue
to
have
those
open
houses
or
seminars
to
educate
people
on
how
to
navigate
that
process
for
full.
Two,
yes,
I
haven't
gone.
B
Through
that,
before
and
and
we're
actually
starting
those
conversations
now
about
continuing
that
for
this
upcoming
January
of
24.,
so
that
will
also
open
that
window
of
opportunity
to
appeal
and
for
anybody
that
needs
support
through
that
we
want
also
to
have
our
partners
in
this
to
be
available
to
help
them
through
that.
So,
yes,
we
will
do
that
again
in
24.
We
hope
and
for
sure
do
it
in
25,
so
those
people
that
want
to
appeal
do
have
a
pro
a
mechanism
to
reach
out
and
get
support
through
that
system.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
for
the
presentation,
I
guess
just
a
high
level
question,
so
you
know
we're
all
aware
of
some
of
the
critiques
that
we've
had
of
the
rebound
system
in
terms
of
the
concerns
around
the
perceived
undervaluation
of
higher
and
property
and
overvaluation
of
more
modest
properties.
So
just
kind
of
thinking
about
and
I
know,
there's
obviously
been
a
lot
of
work
and
thought
put
into
that
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
So
as
we're
looking
ahead
towards
this
next
reval
process,
how
are
just
at
a
high
level?
A
In
the
context
of
those
concerns
that
have
been
raised
and
thinking
about
you
know,
do
you
feel
pretty
confident
we're
going
to
go
through
this
process
and
when
we
get
through
it
all
and
can
kind
of
reflect
back
on
it,
that
we're
gonna
really
have
made
a
lot
of
progress
in
terms
of
addressing
that
issue,
and
also
just
the
perceptions
around
that
issue.
So
just
I
just
appreciate
any
high
level
thoughts
around
around
that
I.
B
I
do
feel
better
and
we
have.
We
listened
to
the
concerns.
Of
course,
every
time
we
hear
a
concern
internally,
we
analyze
it
amongst
ourselves
about
why
it's
a
concern
and
what
went
wrong
maybe
and
what
could
be
done
better
Mass
appraisal
is
not
a
perfect
system.
Mass
appraisal
is
there
in
order
to
accomplish
such
a
large
job,
but
does
mass
appraisal
and
will
Mass
appraisal
always
have
inherent
issues?
B
Does
that
mean
that
we
won't
have
critics
that
will
find
something?
Different
I,
don't
know?
Okay,
but
let's
hope
not,
but
we
are
addressing
the
issues
and
I
do
believe
with
time
with
staff
with
the
different
Staffing
that
we
have
different
tools.
We
have
is
going
to
make
a
tremendous
difference
in
what
you
see
the
final
product
to.
A
Be
okay,
that's
what
we
all
were
hoping
you
would
say
so,
the
other
question
we
have
related
a
little
bit
more
specific.
You
know
one
of
the
pieces.
A
You
talked
about
a
bit
about
the
appeals
process,
so
there
has
been
concern
or
race
about
that
process
in
the
past
that
you
know
that
the
I
mean
anybody
can
participate
in
the
process,
but
we
do
I
think
we
have
data
showing
that
more
you
know
more
affluent
Property
Owners
tend
to
be
more
likely
to
participate
in
that
process
in
the
past
than
people
who
you
know
own,
more
modest
properties,
but
not
only
are
they
more
likely
to
participate
in
it
they're
more
likely
to
be
successful
right,
even
though
there
is
some
pretty
good
data
showing
that
we're
just
making
generalizations
here,
not
any
particular
property,
but
in
general
there
was
actually
probably
some
stronger
arguments
that
there
were
more
misses
on
the
lower
end
properties
than
the
higher
end.
A
So
so
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
about
that.
You've
shared
some
information
about
kind
of
what
you're
doing
to
get
the
word
out,
so
people
can
participate
and
you
know
lowering
barriers
to
that
that
participation,
and
that
sounds
great
and
so
for
folks
who
actually
do
participate.
A
Do
we
do
you
feel
confident
going
into
this
that
again,
when
we're
all
done
with
this,
we
won't
look
back
and
say
you
know,
the
more
modest
Property
Owners
did
not
fare
as
well
in
this
process
as
other
property
owners,
and
you
know
so.
What
are
we
you
know,
even
if
the
data
kind
of
backs
up
the
fact
that
you
know,
generally
speaking,
there's
just
as
good
arguments
or
maybe
better
on
that
side
of
the
spectrum,
so
yeah.
B
So
I
do
have
a
couple
things
there,
and
some
of
this
will
go
back
to
one
of
the
things
that
commissioner
Whiteside
said
is
that
the
residents
of
this
County
have
also
got
to
understand
is
that
this
needs
to
be
a
partnership.
Okay,
I
can't
do
this
alone.
I
cannot.
The
only
thing
I
can
do
is
reach
out.
Give
the
education
help
people
better
understand
how
to
go
through
the
process,
but
we
do
need
to
continue
to
bring
down
those
barriers
to
have
those
folks
who
are
not
comfortable
with
the
process
come
and
appeal.
B
Now
how
we
do
that
through
this
process
that
we
did
this
year?
We
we
think
that
we
did
make
steps
forward
and
we
did
make
progress
to
giving
people
someone
else
to
speak
to
okay
when
you
can
come
into
the
room
into
a
clinic
and
you
have
a
realtor
sitting
there
who
can
talk
through
the
process
with
you
show
you
comparable
properties,
they're,
not
a
tax
employee,
there's
somebody
there
who
this
volunteering
that
wants
to
help
you.
We
need
to
get
that
word
out
more
and
more
to
tear
that
barrier
down.
B
B
Typically,
what
I
think
we
see
is
that
education-
they
don't
know
how
to
they,
don't
know
what
to
bring
with
them.
They
don't
know
how
to
provide
comparable
properties.
They
don't
really
understand
how
the
system
works.
So
those
are
the
barriers
that
we
will
tear
down
and
we
will
put
out
the
information
and
we
will
continue
to
reach
out
to
these
communities
to
help
them
be
comfortable
with
it.
B
A
Key
any
other
questions
for
now.
Okay,
keep
thanks
for
the
updates,
appreciate
it
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
vibrant
economy
updates
with
the
Department
of
Commerce
economy.
Presentation
they've
got
several
folks
with
us
here
to
help
out
on
this
item.
A
F
For
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me
or
know
my
division,
let
me
give
you
a
quick
analysis.
I
am
I've
got
about
20
years
of
experience,
doing
Economic
Development
research,
the
last
11
of
which
I've
been
with
the
labor
and
economic
analysis.
Division
of
Commerce
lead
the
things
we
do.
F
We
do
things
like
we
do
today
where
we
take
the
information
and
we
help
decision
makers
utilize.
It
data
is
only
good
if
you
can
apply
it
somewhere,
so
we
basically
serve
everyone
from
a
grade
school
student
who's.
Looking
you
know
for
for
jobs
and
career
of
the
future,
all
the
way
up
to
the
governor's
office
and
essentially
everybody
in
between
we
produce
a
lot
of
Publications.
We
have
newsletters,
we
have
social
media,
we
publish
reports
and
manage
the
state's
administration
of
the
tier
system
if
you're
familiar
with
it.
F
F
So
today,
I
was
asked
to
talk
about
the
economy,
to
look
at
the
workforce,
look
at
businesses
and
and
then
have
an
eye
to
to
the
Future.
F
F
So
I
hope
to
give
you
some
highlights,
and
we
can
focus
on
the
application
of
this
data
and
the
insights
as
to
what
it
can
tell
you
about
the
economy
and
Buncombe
County's
future
I'll
start
off
by
talking
about
Top
Line
level
about
the
unemployment
rate
it's
low,
it's
historically
low
Buncombe
County
has
the
lowest
unemployment
second
lowest
unemployment
rate.
F
It's
also
good
for
employers,
there's
the
largest
number
of
private
sector
businesses
ever
and
they
have
produced
the
most
jobs
for
the
county
ever
recorded
and
probably
the
most
job
openings.
Certainly
over
the
last
three
years,
when
we've
been
capturing
this
data
also
income
is
up.
I
know
that's
a
goal
of
Buncombe
County's
strategic
plan,
at
least
for
the
moment.
Median
household
incomes
are
up
above
the
state
level
and
the
poverty
rate
is
lower
than
the
state
level.
So
all
good
things
happening
here
in
Buncombe
County,
some
other
lights.
Yes,
sir,
so.
A
So
I'm
sure
you'll
cover
this
when
you
get
to
it,
but
I,
guess
that
bullet
point
about
the
the
average
state
incomes
so
slide.
13
talks
about
the
state
incomes
and
the
county
incomes.
A
F
So
so,
when
we
talk
about
income
and
wages
which
I'll
I'll
go
over,
there's
a
big
difference
between
between
that,
where,
right
now,
the
median
household
income
for
Buncombe
County,
the
latest
data
available
I
should
say
in
2021
is
that
median
household
incomes
are
are
above.
The
state
median
household
items.
A
B
F
Get
when
we
get
that
other
things
that
are
other
highlights
lights,
maybe
not
as
as
quite
as
positive,
depending
on
your
your
Vantage
Point,
there's
the
the
lowest
number
of
job
Seekers
we've
had
in
in
years,
not
just
the
people
who
are
unemployed,
but
people
who
are
looking
for
a
job
who
may
have
a
job.
It's
the
the
lowest
that
we've
been
able
to
estimate.
F
It
appears
and
I
say
appears
because
we
have
preliminary
data
where
this
is
just
kind
of
most
recently
reversed,
where
all
the
jobs
that
were
lost
in
the
pandemic
seem
to
have
been
recovered,
including
all
the
the
major
sector
Industries,
although
not
all
Industries,
have
fared
equally
well
in
the
recovery.
F
Other
quick
points
to
highlight
housing
values,
which
is
I
think,
is
no
surprise
to
anybody
here
are
up
when
adjusted
for
inflation,
they're
up
43
percent
over
the
last
11
years.
That's
higher
than
the
state
and
higher
than
the
than
the
region
median
home
values
have
outpaced:
income
and
rents
have
outpaced
wages,
so
I'll
go
through
each
one
of
those
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
F
When
we
talk
about
the
unemployment
rate
you
can
see
from
this.
This
chart
how
low
the
rate
has
has
gone.
We
have
actually
in
Buncombe
County
about
4,
000,
unemployed
people.
I
should
clarify
what
unemployed
means.
F
It
means
all
those
who
are
interested
in
in
working
and
don't
have
a
job,
so
they
are
active
job
Seekers
people
who
are
not
interested
in
working
or
not
counted
in
the
unemployment
statistics.
So
the
retired
kid
you
know,
youth
who
might
be
in
school
people
who
are
independently
wealthy
and
don't
don't
want
to
work
people
who
just
don't
want
to
work
because
they
feel
like
they
can't
or
they
have
they're
caring
for
loved
ones.
They
may
be
disabled,
etc.
Those
people
are
not
counted
in
the
unemployment
rate.
F
I
mentioned
that
the
there's
the
most
number
of
employed
people
ever
145
000
as
of
of
June.
So
this
area
took
a
real
hit
during
the
pandemic,
but
that's
fully
recovered
as
far
as
Jobs
go
mentioned,
that
job
Seekers
are
are
down,
but
really
what
is
what
is
up
our
job
postings,
and
this
has
created
a
really
tight
labor
market,
what
it
means
for
a
tight
labor
market.
It
means
it's
a
great
time
if
you're
a
job
Seeker,
there
are
roughly
1.5
job
openings
for
every
job
Seeker.
F
Income
is
includes
everything
from
wage
income
to
income
that
you
get
from
passive
investments
from
income.
You
receive
from
some
of
the
government
support
that
was
provided
during
the
pandemic
and
for
that
reason,
you've
seen
a
real
real
shoot
upward,
both
from
the
wage
standpoint
and
from
benefits
standpoint
from
2019
to
2020,
when
adjusted
for
inflation
that
number
dipped.
If
we,
if
we
take
inflation
into
account,
you
can
see
that
it
wasn't
quite
as
large
of
a
jump.
F
This
increased
20
percent
since
2010
and
that's
still
higher
than
than
the
state
rate.
F
Looking
here,
you
can
see,
there's
been
a
fall
from
2020
to
2021,
as
it
relates
to
median
household
income
and
it's
now
kind
of
closer
aligned
to
to
the
state
rate,
not
certain
about
the
reasons
for
that
at
the
moment,
but
one
can
suspect
that
some
of
the
pandemic
relief
may
have
had
a
play
in
that
there
was
particular
pandemic
relief
for
those
in
targeted,
targeted
wage
groups
and
industries
that
Buncombe
County
has
more
of
so
we'll
see
what
happens
as
far
as
that
in
2022,
poverty
is
down.
F
F
But
they've
dipped
a
little
bit
in
over
the
the
last
year.
And
that's
really
just
because
of
inflation.
Wages
in
nominal
terms
have
continued
to
go
up,
but
inflation
has
really
cut
into
people's
pocketbooks
and
and
and
and
their
wages
is
still
much
lower
than
the
state's
average
weekly
wage.
F
Wages
have
or
higher
when
we
talk
about
income.
There
are
a
couple
reasons
for
that:
one
we're
talking
about
medians
versus
averages
and
two.
When
we
talk
about
households,
we
can
have
multiple
earners
in
a
household
and
we
can
have
different
means
of
of
income.
So
these
are
not
real,
comparable
statistics,
but
wages
are
a
part
of
of
income.
F
For
both
of
these,
you
can
see
where
the
state
Falls
so
income
is,
is
higher
for
the
county
than
it
is
for
the
state
and
the
state
wages
is
higher
than
the
county,
both
of
those
and
the
growth
rates
for
both
income
and
wages.
Pale
in
comparison
to
what
we've
seen
for
median
home
values
and
meeting
rent.
F
Looking
at
State
versus
County
wages,
you
can
see
areas
in
which
the
county
does
better
than
the
state
and
where
the
state
does
better
than
County
for
industries.
That
I
can
highlight
where
the
county
is
doing
better
than
the
state
are
ones
where
the
county
tends
to
specialize,
mostly
in
Hospitality
accommodation,
Food,
Services,
arts
and
entertainment,
as
well
as
Healthcare
and
public
administration.
F
The
four
or
five
lowest
paying
County
of
what
of
the
lowest
paying
Industries
have
actually
grown
twice
as
fast
as
the
state,
while.
F
Well,
the
the
top
ones
are
are
significantly
lower
than
the
state.
I
should
mention
that
taking
the
top
five
paying
industries
that
if
we
were
to
increase
wages
just
to
the
top
five
you'd
recover
about
30
percent
of
the
differential
between
the
state's
average
wage
and
the
County's
average
wage,
so
that
disparity
at
the
high
end
is
part
of.
What's
what's
driving
the
difference
in
county
and
state
wages.
F
The
county
saw
a
lot
a
lot
deeper
of
a
hit
during
the
pandemic
than
the
state
did
and
has
recovered,
but
the
state
has
recovered
a
little
bit
faster.
You
can
see
over
the
last
few
months
if
you
can
defer
from
that
from
that
slide
that
wages
are
starting
to
accelerate
here
in
the
region.
F
Looking
at
growth,
good
news
is
that
the
four
fastest
growing
regions
are
also
amongst
the
highest
paying.
So
we
have
Business
and
Professional
Business
Services,
which
also
includes
that
management
of
companies,
industry,
which
are
headquarters
information,
financial
services
and
wholesale
trade.
All
growing
fast
here
in
the
county,
the
county
has
a
different
look
as
far
as
a
breakout
of
its
industry
sectors
compared
to
the
state.
F
Here's
a
the
share
of
employment
versus
the
share
of
employment
for
North
Carolina
sheriff
industry
differences
account
for
about
40
percent
of
the
the
difference
in
median
of
average
weekly
wage
I
mentioned
that
just
only
give
you
context,
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
wise
to
to
to
try
to
achieve
the
same
level
as
the
state.
As
far
as
the
the
composition
and
share
Buncombe,
County
is
unique
from
other
counties
in
this
in
the
state
in
that
is
able
to
draw
a
lot
of
people
via
tourism
via
via
seasonal
residents.
F
That
increases
the
demand
for
services
for
for
food,
for
entertainment,
for
hospitality
and
Leisure
more
so
than
what
could
be
satisfied
by
the
local
residents
alone.
So
that's
always
you're
always
going
to
seem
to
have
a
high
concentration
of
those
of
those
Industries.
But
this
gives
you
a
perspective
as
far
as
as
where
the
state
is
relative
to
your
economy.
F
F
F
Tourism
accounts
for
9.1
percent
of
the
state's
total
and
is
the
second
largest
in
tourism
receipts.
Second,
to
Mecklenburg
in
the
state,
the
Leisure
and
Hospitality
roughly
accounts
for
about
6.6
percent
of
GDP
for
for
the
county.
So
it's
it's
very
important.
F
We
look
at
business
as
a
small
business.
We
saw
a
big
increase
Statewide
as
well
as
nationally
in
business
formation,
but
a
lower
percentage
here
in
in
Buncombe
County.
So
where
we've
seen
according
to
the
census,
51
increase
in
new
business
starts
from
22
from
2006
to
2022
or
sorry.
Since
2019
we
saw
a
41
increase
here
in
Buncombe
County.
F
Looking
forward,
the
future
is,
is
going
to
be
determined
by
the
workforce,
and
education
is
critically
important
to
the
jobs
that
we
see
coming
online
now
and
in
the
future.
Our
Department
of
Commerce
and
Lead
does
10-year
projections
of
employment
by
industry
and
occupation
every
two
years,
and
our
latest
run
shows
that
the
jobs
that
require
post-secondary
education
are
growing
much
faster
than
those
that
that
don't.
F
Automation
is
something
that
is
of
interest
to
a
lot
of
folks
these
days.
The
latest
data
available
on
automation
really
did
not
include
the
latest
in
in
AI
or
looking
more
at
traditional,
Robotics
and
and
process
automation.
F
We're
currently
looking
into
the
effects
that
AI
may
have
on
the
labor
force.
But
you
can
see
that
automation
is
more
likely
to
affect
the
lower
educated
jobs
than
the
higher
ones
and
for
Asheville.
That
means
a
lot
of
jobs
that
have
the
potential
to
be
disrupted,
I
like
to
say
disrupted,
as
opposed
to
lost
I.
Don't
think
that
they're
necessarily
going
to
be
lost,
but
jobs
will
change.
There
may
be
jobs
that
that
do
Transition,
but
new
ones
may
be
created.
They
often
are
and
often
what
people
do
in
those
professions
change.
F
We
we
often
talk
about
about
ATMs
and
their
effects
on
bank
tellers.
Everybody
was
afraid
that
we're
going
to
lose
all
bank
tellers
that
actually
grew
bank
tellers
just
do
a
little
bit
different
of
a
job
than
they
did
20
or
30
years
ago.
So
we
expect
some
disruption
and
we're
starting
to
see
that
already,
even
in
the
hospitality
sector
because
of
things
like
automation,
automated
Payment,
Systems
ordering
online
menus
on
your
phone
and
whatnot.
So
it's
changing
jobs
and
what's
needed
in
the
workforce
and
will
continue
some
quick
takeaways.
F
As
I
mentioned,
it's
it's
a
tight
labor
market.
We
expect
this
to
last.
As
long
as
the
economy
is
good.
Recession
will
change
everything,
but
but
we
expect
there
to
be
more
more
jobs
available
than
there
are
job
Seekers
coming
online,
just
because
of
demographics.
So
this
is
something
that's
that's
likely
to
to
continue
to
happen.
F
It's
a
great
time
to
try
to
reach
out
and
get
some
of
those
people
who
are
not
in
the
labor
force
into
employment,
they're,
often
very
difficult
to
serve
very
expensive
to
serve
to
try
to
get
people
whether
it's
those
with
disabilities,
whether
it's
a
those
who
are
have
long-term
unemployment,
youth
who
have
dropped
out
of
school
or
those
who
are
just
as
involved,
but
now
is
probably
the
best
bang
for
our
buck
to
be
able
to
to
get
those
people
into
jobs
because
they're
needed
wage
growth
is
trailing.
The
state
and
houses
housing
costs.
F
Education
is
going
to
be
critical.
As
I
mentioned,
you
can
diverse,
diversify
to
some
extent,
but
tourism
is
is
critical
in
trying
to
get
to
the
same
level
as
the
state
as
far
as
a
a
share
of
employment,
probably
is
not
wise
or
realistic,
but
there
is
opportunities
to
try
to
to
get
more
people
into
those
high-paying
sectors,
support
those
those
high-paying
sectors
and
the
people
in
it.
We
don't
yet
have
data
on
on
those
who
may
be
working
remotely
or
who
have
relocated
to
work
here
remotely.
F
There
is
data
available
on
remote
work,
but
it
shows
kind
of
a
mixed
picture
as
it
relates
to
the
region.
There
is
opportunity,
though,
potentially,
and
maybe
that's
part,
of
the
reason
why
we're
seeing
some
of
the
fast
wage
growth
in
those
in
those
remote
work
capable
Industries
that
pay
well.
F
Lastly,
a
small
business
there's
opportunity
here
to
try
to
grow
and
nurture
nurture
that
Community,
especially
if
we've
seen
lower
lower
startups
here
than
than
across
the
state.
F
If
you
want
more
information
from
us
or
where
to
where
to
stay
abreast
for
this,
for
this
data,
we
have
a
website
called
analytics.nccommers.com
there.
We
highlight
things
like
nccareers.org,
which
is
our
Career
Information
System
for
the
state
where
we
have.
We
offer
a
free,
Career,
Information
System
for
those
in
school
and
those
in
the
workforce.
We
have
we've
had
about
900
000,
unique
users
across
the
state.
F
Take
assessments
learn
about
the
jobs
that
are
available
and
what
it
takes
to
get
them,
and
it's
available
for
you
in
the
county
at
the
local
level
as
well.
We
have
area
profiles
at
the
county
level
where
you
can
look
at
economic
conditions
in
your
county
is
updated
monthly,
and
then
we
have
two
News
letters
that
you
can
follow
on
economic
and
labor
market
statistics.
F
G
Thank
you
so
much.
This
is
really
great
content,
a
lot
to
digest
on
that
last
takeaway
in
terms
of
ways
to
kind
of
stimulate
or
nurture
startups
and
that
kind
of
entrepreneurial
environment.
Do
you
have
any
kind
of
concrete
examples
that
come
to
mind
where
you've
seen
other
communities
able
to
kind
of
reverse
that
Trend
and
cultivate
more
of
that
startup.
F
There
are
I
know
that
there
is
a
a
startup
Hub
I
forgot.
What
that
that
I
think
they,
the
EDC,
runs
here
and
I've.
Seen
that
happen
in
a
lot
of
local
communities.
I
know,
Durham
has
networking
events
that
their
their
chamber
offers.
There
are
social
events
which
may
be
something,
especially
if
you're
attract
if
you're
attracting
some
more
remote
workers
to
get
those
people
integrated
into
not
only
the
community
but
also
a
lot
of
tech
workers,
as
you
know,
are
involved
in
startup
activities
or
could
play
a
role.
F
H
I
had
a
similar
question,
but
in
regards
to
engaging
those
with
hiring
challenges,
particularly
Justice
involved
people
with
disabilities.
A
lot
of
organizations
that
have
Federal
funding,
for
example,
are
required
to
hire
someone
with
a
bachelor's
degree.
Have
you
seen
any
examples
of
where
you
know?
Communities
have
had
success
in
navigating
some
of
those
more
difficult
hiring
situations
where
requirements
are
put
on
them
in
terms
of
who
they
can
hire,
so
they
can
focus
on
hiring.
F
F
I
think
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
it
really
is
generated
by
the
the
business
right,
and
so
we've
seen
that
employers
have
been
more
willing
to
lower
their
standards.
You
can
think
of
it.
When
you
know
you've
got
a
stack
of
of
resumes
this
high
that
you
need
to
whittle
it
down
somehow
and
often
times.
Things
like
education
were
the
first
point
of
of
that
narrowing
a
lot
of
employers
when
they
have
a
stack
this
high
or
they
have
nobody,
have
opened
up
their
requirements.
F
I
haven't
seen
a
lot
I
know
in
some
manufacturing,
particularly
where
things
like
drugs
are
more
of
a
drug
screening
is
more
of
an
issue.
I
have
I,
haven't
heard
as
much
of
the
requirements
about
Justice
fault
that
it
doesn't
surprise
me
that
there
that
there
would
be
some
I,
even
so
I
think
there
are
still
lots
of
employers
and
I
know
the
state's
division
of
Workforce
Solutions.
The
local
Career
Centers
here
work
with
Justice
involved
communities
and
employers
who
are
willing
to
to
hire.
F
There
is
federal,
bonding
and
other
method
other
ways
to
encourage
employers
to
work
with
with
that
population
I
think
there's
some
of
it
is
an
awareness,
and
some
of
it
is
just
a
natural
hesitancy,
but
now
more
than
any
time
in
my
lifetime,
it
appears
that
there's
more
of
a
willingness
for
employers
to
take
a
chance.
I'm,
not
saying
it's
easy
and
that
you've
got
a
lot
of
employers
wanting
to
take
a
chance
on
on
that
type
of
individual.
But
there's
more
of
a
likelihood
now
during
the
tight
labor
market
than
their
of
her
husband.
C
Jeffrey,
you
know
when
I
would
like
to
see
more
of
on
reports
like
this.
Is
we
don't
talk
enough
about
the
challenges
we
have
with
people
of
color?
You
know
overall,
Buncombe
County
is
no
different
from
North
Carolina
or
the
United
States
for
that
matter,
but
I
think
when
you
give
reports
like
this.
F
It
and
and
if
I
could
go
back
to
my
I,
had
a
slide
just
in
case
it's
hard
to
to
know
exactly
what
everybody
wants
to
talk
about
and
try
to
fit
everything
in
a
short
presentation.
So
I
have
a
couple
slides
at
the
end
of
my
presentation
that
are
extras,
and
so
here's
number
one
extra
I
should
say,
which
is
not
to
say
that
it's
not
important.
F
It
should
be
included,
you're,
right
and,
and
so
when
we
talk
about
employment
opportunities
in
a
tight
labor
market,
it's
a
tight
labor
market
overall.
But
it's
not
that
tight
for
everyone
which
again
leads
some
to
question.
Well
how
how
desperate
are
employers
for
people
when
we
have
five
and
a
half
percent
unemployment
rate
for
black
African
Americans
in
in
Buncombe
County?
F
So,
yes,
I,
I,
I'm,
sorry
I
didn't
put
this
in
the
front
of
the
presentation,
but
it
is
an
important
thing
to
to
call
out
and
to
address
and
to
have
a
Frank
and
honest
conversation
with
employers,
as
well
as
reaching
those
people
and
see
if
there's
any
other.
If
you
know
there
there
may
be
other
opportunities,
other
barriers
within
racial
populations
as
well.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
talk
about
opportunity.
Youth
people
have
dropped
out
of
high
school.
F
You
know
how
much
overlap
do
we
have
with
race
in
Buncombe
County?
So,
yes,
it's
an
issue.
A
You
know,
there's
over
the
last
12
months
since
the
Congress
passed
the
the
so-called
inflation
reduction
act,
which
is
actually
about
a
lot
of
other
stuff.
With
you
know,
domestic
manufacturing
and
clean
energy
economy
related
things
there's
been
the
you
know,
the
largest
number
of
announced
manufacturing
expansions
and
new
manufacturing
projects
in
the
country
by
like
this
huge
margin
compared
to
any
time
in
decades.
Right,
so
we're
going
to
go
through
this
big
National
Renaissance
in
terms
in
the
clean
tech
and
Manufacturing
sector.
A
What
else
should
we
be
doing?
I
mean?
Obviously
those
are
all
things
that
are
like
what
people
in
our
community
really
love
right
so
is,
there
is.
Are
there
other
things
that
we
should
be
doing
to
position
ourselves
to
benefit
from
the
rapid
growth
in
that
sector?
I
mean
I.
We've
had
a
lot
of
great
projects
happening
in
our
area.
When
we
look
at
a
lot
of
things
happening
around
North,
Carolina,
we'd
love
to
see
more
of
those
projects,
you
know
coming
to
Western,
North
Carolina,
so
any
thoughts
sure.
F
Yeah
we're
seeing
high
growth
in
occupations
such
as
solar,
photovoltaic
installers,
solar
panel
installers
in
the
in
the
state
and
in
the
region
working
with
Community
College
on
that,
but
really
the
the
new
green
economy
is
going
to
require
a
lot
more
electricians
than
we
currently
have
everybody's
kind
of
struggling
with
that
in
the
state
and
and
nationally
so
I
would
you
know,
certainly
work
with
your
local
Community
College.
F
Make
sure
that
not
only
are
programs
in
place,
but
also
that
the
community
at
large
is
aware
of
these
opportunities
and
and
what
it
takes
to
get
into
them.
And
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
NC
careers
I
mentioned.
You
know:
how
can
we
prepare
the
the
students
and
the
job
Seekers
for
future
employment
if
we
don't
tell
them
what
that
future
employment
is
and
what
it
takes
to
get
there
so.
A
E
A
I
Sir
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
we
request
to
go
in
a
closed
session
for
two
purposes:
one
General
statute,
143
318,
11
A6;
that's
for
Personnel,
moderate
matters,
considering
qualifications,
confidence,
performance
of
a
County,
employee
and
second
for
GS,
143,
31811
A3,
to
console
with
attorneys
regarding
the
matter
involving
attorney
client
privilege.
We
just
expect
direction
from
the
board
with
no
action
to
be
taken.
An
open
session.