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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Feb. 20, 2018)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' February 20, 2018. To view the agenda or future meeting agendas visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners
A
A
Last
Wednesday
we
witnessed
the
mass
shooting
at
Marjory
Stoneman
High
School
in
parkland
Florida,
it's
hard
to
talk
about
the
suffering,
fear
and
agony
that
these
incidents
caused
and
the
pain
and
unbearable
grief
that
they
leave
in
their
wake.
At
this
time.
Let
us
hold
a
moment
of
silence
during
which
people
may
pray
or
reflect
on
this
tragedy
that
has
impacted
so
many
American
children,
teachers
and
their
families,
but
knowing
that
prayers
alone
are
not
enough
to
stop
the
killing
of
so
many
innocent
people
in
our
country.
A
A
As
we
begin
the
meeting
I'd
like
to
ask
everyone
who
has
a
cell
phone
to
please
silence
it
or
turn
it
off,
I'd
like
to
recognize
some
of
the
other
elected
officials
that
we
have
with
us.
Is
this
evening
a
representative
Chuck
McGrady.
Thank
you
for
being
with
us.
We
also
have
I
think
all
the
members
of
the
Buncombe
County
delegation,
but
for
one
with
US,
representative,
Brian,
Turner,
representative,
Susan,
Fisher,
senator
Terry,
Van,
Dyne
I,
think
are
all
with
us
today.
So
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us.
We
appreciate
representative
John
eggor.
A
How
did
I?
How
did
I
miss
you?
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
and
thank
you
all
for
your
service
to
the
people
of
Buncombe,
County
and
Western
North
Carolina
and
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
You
know
we
just
drive
down
downtown
Asheville
and
we
get
to
do
this
and
you
guys
have
to
drive
all
the
way
to
Raleigh
just
about
every
week
to
do
your
job,
so
we
are
very
indebted
to
you
for
your
for
your
service.
Thank
you.
I
also
know
that
Tom
Hardy
from
MSD
is
here
with
us
as
well.
A
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
county
commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
in
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also.
A
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
seeing
none
all
board
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
each
matter
that
is
voted
on
by
the
board
this
evening.
I
also
want
to
recognize
our
Clerk
of
Courts
Steve
Cogburn,
who
is
also
here
with
us
as
well
Steve,
thanks
for
your
your
great
work
and
also
Leeanne
Milton
is
with
us
so
and
let
me
just
ask
have
I
missed
any
other
elected
humor
with
us.
Okay
is.
C
A
C
A
A
D
A
In
favor
please
say:
aye
aye:
can
you
post
all
right
under
good
news?
We
have
the
sandy
mush
4-h
club,
fourth
anniversary
and
Commissioner
Belcher
is
going
to
help
present
this
item
and
we
have
Jackie
Gillespie
from
sandy
mush
here
to
accept
this.
Please
please
come
on
up
and
if
there's
anybody
else
who
wouldn't
who
you'd
like
to
have
bring
up,
bring
them
all
up.
B
C
B
B
Of
them,
just
let
the
kids
show
up
right.
This
is
what
this
is.
What
we
do,
what
we
do
it
and
see
any
much
I'll
just
say
that
the
4-h,
my
wife,
was
a
big
4-h
member
and
she
grew
up
on
a
farm
and
and
what
y'all
do
is
amazing
and
if
you've,
if
you've,
never
had
an
opportunity
to
go
out
to
the
San
Dimas
community
center,
go
the
Lester
Community
Center
and
see
any
of
the
events
that
they
have
going
on
your
you
need
to
do
that.
B
It's
just
it's
just
a
great
place
to
go
and
they
do
a
wonderful
job,
but
this
is
for
a
milestone
and
I'm
going
to
read
this
and
then
I'm
gonna
see.
If
mr.
Jackie
has
any
comments,
we'd
love
to
hear
from
you
and
tell
us
what's
what's
been
going
on
and
and
with
the
4-h,
but
this
is
for
40
years
of
service,
the
San
Dimas
mush
4-h
club
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
This
board
expresses
its
sincere
appreciation
and
support
for
the
San
Dimas
4-h
club
on
the
occasion
of
its
40th
anniversary.
B
We
commend
you
for
empowering
our
young
people
with
hands-on
projects
in
health,
science,
agriculture
and
citizenship.
Since
1978,
you
have
truly
made
this
community
a
better
place
to
live,
and
we
honor
and
thank
you
and
wish
you
many
more
years
of
success.
This
the
20th
day
of
February
2018,
Buncombe,
County
Board
of
Commissioners,
some
by
the
Chairman,
as
well
as
all
the
other
commissioners.
So
thank
you,
give
them
another
big
hand
and
we'll
let
miss
Jackie.
Tell
us
what's
going
on.
F
So
thank
y'all
for
having
us
I
would
like
to
say
there
was
a
club
back
in
sandy
mush,
probably
back
in
the
50s
or
60s
I,
think
it
went
act.
Inactive
maybe
was
through
the
school
system.
Miss
Sandra
raves
back
here
started
this
club
in
February
in
1978,
and
we
have
been
continuously
active
since
that
time.
I
am
in
my
eighth
year.
I
took
the
club
in
2011,
so
this
is
my
eighth
year
with
the
club.
We
currently
have
46
members
enrolled.
So
again,
this
is
just
about
a
third
of
them
here,
I
told
him.
F
I
want
okolloh
again
mr.
Steve
Duquette.
Our
extension
director
was
the
first
sandy
mesh
club
president,
so
we're
very
proud
of
that.
Back
just
a
couple
of
things.
We
do
host
a
Memorial
Day
and
a
Veterans
Day
service
out
at
the
Leicester
community
center.
We
do
cleanups
up
at
the
fire
department
in
Sandy
mosh.
We
do
some
Christmas
parades.
We
support
support
Toys
for
Tots.
F
We
have
kids
that
show
livestock
do
cooking
in
our
different
projects.
We
usually
hit
the
Haywood
County
Fair
of
the
Mountain
State
Fair
in
Madison
County
and
the
State
Fair
in
Raleigh.
We
have
kids
that
do
livestock.
Judging
we
do
some
other
community
service.
We
get
called
on
a
lot
if
there's
a
fundraiser
or
anything
going
on
out
in
the
community,
and
they
need
a
little
help
thing.
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
legislative
review
committee
to
study
rates
and
transfer
public
enterprises
and
Commissioner
Chuck
McGrady
yeah
feel
free
to
join
us
up
here,
and
thank
you
for
for
coming
to
talk
to
us
about
the
side
of
this
evening.
Again,
thank
you
to
all
the
members
of
the
North
Carolina
delegation
that
are
with
us
as
well
for
your
work
and
for
your
time
this
evening.
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here.
Originally
I
wasn't
actually
going
to
try
to
come
before
your
Commission,
since
Buncombe
County
is
only
indirectly
involved
in
the
water
and
sewer
business.
However,
a
recent
decision
that
the
MSD
board
had
turned
down
Henderson
County's
application
to
join
MSD
suggested
I
probably
ought
to
talk
to
you
also.
G
Seven
years
ago
I
was
a
county
commissioner.
I
guess
I
served
with
chairman
Newman
in
different
capacities
over
a
long
period
of
time.
For
those
that
don't
know
my
background,
while
I
presently
represent
most
of
Henderson
County
and
chair,
the
the
Budget
Committee
and
the
Alcoholic
Beverage
Commission,
and
the
environmental
review
Commission
before
that
I
was
a
Henderson
County
Commissioner
councilman
in
in
Flat
Rock
lawyer
by
training
and
ran
a
summer
camp
for
kids.
Here.
G
I
also
was
the
executive
director
of
non-profit
environmental
organization
and
that's
when
chairman
Newman
and
I
were
working
on
water
and
sewer
issues,
I
think
about
25
years
ago
anyway.
I'm
glad
to
be
here,
I
get
kidded
a
lot
at
the
General
Assembly
by
my
colleagues,
because
they
keep
telling
me
I
keep
acting
like
I'm
a
county
commissioner
and
or
a
city
councilman
I've
been
received.
G
The
top
awards
from
both
the
league
municipalities
and
the
County
Commissioners
Association
I
was
County
Commissioner
of
the
year
in
that
Association
before
I
went
to
the
General
Assembly,
so
I'm,
pretty
firmly
rooted
in
local
government
and
I
wish.
My
colleagues,
particularly
those
on
my
side
of
the
aisle,
sometimes
paid
a
little
more
attention
to
that.
Anyway,
specifically,
what
I
wanted
to
talk
to
you
about
is
a
legislative
Study
Committee
that
I
chair
the
joint
committee
to
study
rates
and
transfers
public
enterprises.
G
This
study
committee
started
out
as
House
bill
718
related
to
rates
and
transfers.
Essentially,
it
would
have
prohibited
counties
and
cities
from
establishing
differential
rates
for
public
enterprises
without
the
approval
of
the
local
government
Commission.
It
would
have
also
required
public
enterprise
to
be
accounted
for
in
a
separate,
segregated
fund
that
bill
morphed
into
just
a
study.
Committee.
I
shared
the
charge
of
that
committee
with
your
your
chair
and
manager
and
I'm,
assuming
you
have
seen
that.
How
did
the
study
Commission
come
about?
G
It
grew
out
of
legislation
dealing
with
the
water
system
in
Asheville
without
getting
into
the
weeds
when
the
legislation
was
found
to
be
unconstitutional.
I
initiated
a
process
to
try
to
resolve
some
long-standing
issues
between
Henderson
County
and
the
city
of
Asheville,
by
bringing
the
parties
together
to
talk,
I
hope
to
avoid
the
need
for
any
other
legislation.
G
G
G
Many
of
the
sewer
and
water
systems
across
the
state
came
became
municipal
systems
because
they
were
originally
part
of
a
mill
town
and
the
mill
put
in
the
water
and
the
sewer.
And
then
it
became
a
municipal
system
and
then,
unfortunately,
in
a
lot
of
cases
that
mill
closed
down
and
the
water
and
sewer
systems
off
times,
you
know,
frankly,
were
not
sustainable
in
their
fashion
in
the
way
they
they
worked
and
and
what
surprised
me
actually
a
little
bit
was
I
had
both
the
when
I
put
forward
this.
G
G
The
some
of
these
systems
are
not
sustainable,
they're,
not
all
mill
towns.
They
estimate
that
somewhere
between
30
and
60
municipalities
across
the
state
and
counties
across
the
state
are
functionally
bankrupt
because
of
their
water
and
sewer
systems,
and
what's
happened
in
part
in
some
places.
Is
that
an
effort
to
save
it?
G
These
local
governments
have
started
extending
their
water
lines,
charging
differential
rates
and
then
using
the
money
to
upgrade
their
water
system
or
to
run
their
city
or
county
and
from
the
treasurer's
side.
That
just
wasn't
something
financially
that's
responsible.
My
background
is
an
Environmental
Protection.
Deq
came
to
me
also,
and
their
issue
was
that
these
systems
are
not
sustainable
and
periodically
if
they
fail
and
suddenly
the
state
has
to
come
in
and
put
a
few
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
deal
with
the
issue
at
hand.
But
it's
just
a
band-aid.
G
The
system
is
not,
you
know
sustainable,
and
so
both
of
these
state
government
departments
have
basically
said
you
know:
can
we
create
some
incentives,
or
even
some
sticks
to
cause
some
of
these
things
to
merge
together
we
need
more
regional,
water
and
sewer,
and
so
that's
really
what
we're
about
I
expect
we'll
have
a
few
meetings
of
spring.
We
actually
had
our
first
meeting
about
a
week
ago,
or
so.
G
The
first
two
meetings
will
probably
be
educational,
because
the
stuff
Enterprise
funds
are
really
tough
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
types
of
them,
and
our
mandate
is
rather
broad
but
we'll
move
from
educational
at
some
point
to
making
some
recommendations
I,
don't
anticipate
any
with
any
action
of
any
sort
in
the
short
session.
We're
really
setting
up.
Excuse
me
for
the
long
session
I
will
be
working
with
the
county
commissioners,
Association
and
I.
G
The
ability
to
you
know
vote
out
the
mayor
of
the
City
Council.
Well,
the
problem
is,
and
let's
pick
on
Hendersonville
70%
of
Henderson's,
those
customers
are
outside
the
municipal
boundaries.
In
other
words,
those
customers
have
no
recourse
if
they
don't
like
what's
happening
and
so
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
question
is
we're
gonna,
look
at
it,
I
don't
know.
What's
going
going
forward,
as
I
indicated,
the
recent
MSD
vote
caused
me
to
ask
to
be
heard.
Frankly.
G
I
was
real
surprised
by
that
vote,
particularly
after
I
put
forward
legislation
in
the
last
session
to
address
concerns
that
Asheville
would
lose
a
seat
on
the
MSD
board.
If
Hendersonville
excuse
me,
Henderson
County
were
to
join
that
board.
Those
concerns
were
raised
by
the
chairman
eminent.
We
were
raised
by
Mayor
manheimer
I
thought,
I
had
fixed
it
and
the
entire
Buncombe
and
henderson
delegation
all
supported
it
and
I
was
very
surprised
with
the
MSD
issue.
G
I
believe
what
I'm
gonna
do
with
that
I'm
gonna
I'm,
going
back
to
make
sure
I
understand
all
the
history
here
and
I
don't
intend
to
wade
into
that
unless
you've
got
some
questions,
but
I
will
probably
write
you
a
letter
at
some
point
before
the
short
session
which
is
now
set
for
mid-may
sort
of
setting
out
what
the
concerns
are.
At
this
time,
all
I'm
asking
for
is
is
for
you
to
be
attentive.
G
Give
me
any
input
on
the
study
committee
that
I
chair
and
be
open
to
the
possibility
that
you
can
resolve
the
MSD
question
as
between
local
governments
and
that's
that's
my
hope
and
I'll.
Stop
right
there.
Mr.
chairman,
to
take
questions.
I'll
try
to
stay
for
the
public
comment
piece,
as
I
explained
to
some
of
you,
my
wife
just
had
surgery
and
I'm
gonna
head
back.
There.
I
can't
spend
the
night,
but
I'll
try
to
stay
for
at
least
a
little
little
bit
if
I
can
and
the
questions
on
this
topic
or
anything
else.
A
D
An
MSD
board
member
I
wanted
to
remind
everyone
that,
as
it
is
now,
the
city
of
Asheville
has
three
members.
Buncombe
County
has
three
members:
Woodfin
has
one
Black,
Mountain
has
one
and
Biltmore
Forest
has
one
in
the
vote
was
to
add
three
seats,
so
it
was
more
a
question
of
disproportionality
than
not
liking,
Henderson
County,
so
I
wanted
to.
That
was
my
thought
about
it.
If.
G
I
could
respond.
There
is
one
of
the
entities
that
have
two
votes
and
I.
Think
if
you,
if
you
put
it
on
a
per
capita
basis,
you
would
Ashville
one
of
those
towns
would
probably
get
one
vote
and
Asheville
would
have
43
votes
if
you
did
it
strictly
on
a
per
capita
basis.
Henderson
County
in
Buncombe
County
have
different
histories
when
it
comes
to
sewer.
G
So
if
we
had
had
the
same
history
that
you
you
had,
we
probably
would
have
ended
up
with
three
votes
anyway,
because
the
sewers
in
Mills
River
and
in
in
Fletcher
and
in
Henderson
counties
but
again
I,
don't
want
to
you
know.
I
I,
hear
ya.
I
heard
that
really
loud
and
clear,
I,
just
I
wish
I
had
heard
it
back
when
I
could
fix
it,
as
opposed
to
have
what
happened
here,
based
on
communications
I
had
with
various
public
officials.
So.
B
I,
just
I
just
have
a
comment:
I'm
not
going
to
get
any
questions
in
history
because
I'm
very
familiar
with
it
until
you
served
on
the
MSD
board,
with
with
with
Commissioner
frost,
but
I
want
to
thank
you
for
coming.
It's
refreshing
to
me
for
any
anybody
from
the
legislature
or
an
outside
representative
to
come
in
here
and
provide
information
to
us
and
so
I'm
very
grateful
for
it
and
I.
Thank
you
for
coming.
I
appreciate.
H
A
Father
any
other
questions
from
the
Commission
all
right
represent
McGrady.
Thank
you
again,
I
guess
at
this
time,
I'd
just
like
to
ask
if
any
of
our
other
elected
officials
who
are
here.
Thank
you
for
taking
time.
If
any
of
you
have
any
questions
or
comments,
I
just
invite
you
to
you
feel
free
to
share
them.
Now,
if
you
don't
that's
fine
too,
and
oh
so
all
right,
all
right
and
again
represent
McGrady.
A
I
Grady
I
will
be
talking
to
you
directly
okay,
later
on
I'm,
not
gonna,
spend
time
here.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
you
need
to
go
be
with
your
wife.
I
want
to
make
some
general
comments,
because
in
1976,
I
worked
for
you,
land
of
sky
Regional,
Council
I
was
here
when
MST
was
formed.
I've
watched
the
MSD
take
over
sewer
lines
that
were
all
to
pieces
and
full
of
crap,
because
the
local
politicians
in
this
area
wouldn't
handle
them.
I
The
human
waste
in
everything
in
Asheville,
including
the
storm
water
from
the
top
of
the
mountains
to
the
streets
and
from
basements
and
buildings,
was
running
straight
into
the
French
Broad
River
they've
done
a
good
job,
but
they
have
taxi
to
power
and
they've
used
that
very
good
so
far,
and
they
had
to
do
it
because
they
had
to
map
the
lines
they
didn't
know
where
the
lines
are
at
now.
We
all
know
the
problem
between
Hendersonville
and
Asheville.
It
was
because
Asheville
promised
Hendersonville
a
long
time
ago.
I
You
can
build
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
here
downstream
because
guess
what
crap
goes
downhill
and
the
guy
at
the
bottom
catches
it
and
all
of
a
sudden
Asheville
backed
out
of
that
deal,
and
that's
the
very
property
that
you
all
are
having
to
deal
with
now
and
trying
to
sell
and
that's
the
hard
feelings
it's
there.
So
that's
what
you're
trying
to
overcome
I
would
like
to
spend
some
time
with
you,
because
I
can
show
you
how
you
can
make
your
charges
for
sewer
and
water,
completely
engineering,
Lee,
correct
and
proper.
I
You
have
a
fixed
cost
of
every
system.
You
also
have
a
cost
of
pumping
or
bringing
the
sewer
to
the
plant.
You
also
have
a
cost
of
pump
stations,
so
you
figure
that
cost
and
you
make
your
charge
for
that
water
or
forgetting
that
crap
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plan
based
upon
actual
experience
and
actual
cost.
It
can
be
done.
I've
made
presentations
about
this
in
front
of
engineers.
I
It's
a
simple
matter
of
calculation
and
if
everybody's
paying
their
fair
share,
I,
don't
see
why
Asheville
can't
get
along
with
Hendersonville
and
why
nobody
can't
get
along
together.
If
everybody's
paying
their
fair
share
so
again,
it's
a
matter
of
transport,
see
and
allocating
the
cost
where
the
cow
should
go,
and
that
can
be
done
now.
I
The
hard
part
is
going
to
be
the
thing
that
kept
this
area
from
Treatise
waste
water
and
the
same
thing
that
kept
us
from
consolidating
the
water
and
the
sewer
using
the
same
equipment
and
cutting
the
cost
of
operation
which
can
be
done
and
I
know
the
history
of
both
the
water
and
the
sewer.
And
at
one
time
we
had
utility
districts
in
Buncombe
County,
folks
that
the
county
had
put
the
sewer
in
water
to
that
area.
I
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
aboard
one
thing
about
Grady.
Today
he
don't
get
to
hear
from
people
like
us
down
there.
We
can't
come
and
chew
on
his
ear
like
we
do
you,
so
that's
the
difference.
Yun's
got
your
feet
on
the
ground
hundred
like
the
Marines.
You
can
smile
today.
If
you'd
like
I,
mean
you
know,
I,
just
don't
like
him
frown,
you
might
be
doing
the
frown
after
I
get
through.
J
We
have
heard
what
we've
heard
Mr
Grady
say
the
nuclear
option.
We
have
heard
it
today
that
one
explains,
though
the
whales
at
a
private
home
look
out.
They
tried
to
be
taxed
before
and
they
weren't.
Now
the
nuclear
option
is
on
the
board.
Just
keep
an
eye
on
it.
Don't
look
short-term
look
long-term,
he's
already
told
you
about
all
the
water
in
the
county
being
70%
and
40%
out
there
to
us
now.
J
The
third
thing
Duke
Energy
Duke
Energy,
the
reevaluation
every
year,
determines
the
rate
that
the
County
Commission
is
going
to
give
the
county
on
it.
Excuse
me
I'm,
sorry,
Duke
Energy,
our
power
bills
every
month
depends
on
the
utility
commission.
That
utility
commission
also
is
related
to
the
property
tax
in
Buncombe
County.
When
you
have
a
revaluation
year
depending
on
how
you
rate,
then
it
can
go
up
or
down
you
got
it
now.
I
know
it's
over.
J
You
had
some
times
the
sales
tax
ratio
study
that
you
get
to
talk
the
numbers
on
it
that
you
get
like
eighty
four
point:
five
percent
before
you
can
reevaluate
and
all
this
stuff
or
you'll
get
a
letter
from
Department
of
Revenue
pay
attention.
It's
all
about
money,
pay
attention
the
ratio
study.
We
had
a
big
fight
over
this
and
I
mentioned
it
do
not
raise
property
taxes
and
you
did
it
anyway.
You
know
why,
because
you're
too
greedy
those
tax
people
need
a
break
here.
J
A
Alright,
thank
you.
Anyone
else
all
right,
thank
you
and
represented
McGrady.
Thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
to
all
the
legislators
who
represent
Western,
North
Carolina.
Thank
you,
and
we
do
look
forward
to
to
following
and
having
a
dialogue
on
these
important
issues
and
to
thank
you
again
and
best
wishes
to
your
family.
All
right.
A
K
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
Commission
I'm
here
with
Gene
Bell
and
Scott
Dedmon,
we
got
the
big
guys
here
tonight
because
everybody
else
is
back
at
the
office
working,
but
we're
happy
to
be
here
and
happy
to
announce
if
you
haven't
already,
rather
than
the
paper
that
we
did
get
a
tax
exempt
bond
and
4%
tax
credit
award
from
the
State
Housing
Finance
Agency.
So
we
are,
we
have
the
second
major
portion
of
our
funding
for
the
project
in
place.
K
The
first
major
portion
was
the
local
funding,
that's
being
provided
by
you
and
by
the
City
Council,
and
we
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
by
the
housing
authority.
The
tax
credits
are
our
piece
of
it
and
then
there
will
be
a
mortgage
loan
on
the
property,
that's
paid
from
the
revenue
of
the
property
and
that's
the
next
step.
As
we
go
forward.
The
tax
credits
were
the
big
competitive
process
that
we
needed
to
go
through
and
they
they
will
fund.
K
We
estimated
about
12
million
dollars
of
the
total
project
cost
so
about
one
third
of
it,
I,
don't
know
if
crystal
Reed
was
able
to
come
tonight.
We
we
have
met
with
the
residents
and
a
really
good
turnout,
actually
last
Thursday
for
a
meeting
of
residents
talking
about
that.
What's
now
the
likely
relocation
we're
asking
people
not
to
jump
to
gun,
not
to
be
worried
about
it.
K
We
will
be
providing
another
apartment
in
our
inventory,
that's
equal
to
or
better
than
the
one
that
they're
staying
in
now
and
they
will
have
the
right
to
return
after
the
new
development
is
complete.
The
relocation
will
probably
start
sometime
this
summer,
although
we
are
having
last
Thursday,
was
an
information
session
and
we
are
having
an
open
house
with
mountain
housing
opportunities,
property
management
firm
in
mid-march
for
the
residents
who
were
interested
in
possibly
moving
to
a
mountain
housing
development
to
get
more
information
about
that.
We've
also
been
working
with
the
designers
and
construction.
K
Of
course,
costs
of
construction,
they're
going
up
and
interest
rates
are
going
up
so
we're
having
to
make
everything
fit
within
the
budget,
but
the
designers
came
last
late
last
fall
and
presented
a
video
presentation
of
what
the
new
apartments
will
look
like
to
the
residents
and
to
the
Housing
Authority
board
and
I.
Think
max.
Has
that
video
here
well,
let
it
kind
of
flow
through
one
time
and
then
maybe
go
back
and
pause.
It
starts
at
the
south
end
of
the
site.
K
K
L
K
D
K
K
A
All
right
well,
David,
that's
this
is
great
news,
and
so
we're
very
appreciative
of
you
and
everyone
on
the
team
for
putting
this.
You
know
putting
this
vision
forward
and
developing
a
great
project
and
then
going
out,
and
you
know
in
helping
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
secure
the
financing
to
to
implement
this
I
think
this
is
the
it's
the
biggest
investment
that
the
county,
at
least
during
the
time
I've
served
in
local
government.
A
This
thing:
that's
the
biggest
investment
the
county's
ever
made
in
affordable
housing,
but,
as
has
been
pointed
out
many
times,
this
is
much
more
than
just
an
affordable
housing
development,
which
is,
you
know
very
important
in
its
own
right.
It's
going
to
accomplish
a
lot
of
other
great
things
for
the
neighborhood
and
for
our
community
and
I'm,
so
excited
that
the
county
can
partner
with
with
Asheville
and
and
the
Housing
Authority,
and
all
the
different
partners
that
have
come
together
for
this
and
really
I
completely
agree.
Sometimes
we
say
things
are
transformational.
A
A
Are
there
any
other
folks
who
want
to
comment
on
this
item
as
well?
Well,
work
on
this
issue,
all
right,
thank
you
again
and
Jean
Belle
great
to
see
you
as
always,
and
Scott
Dedmon
and
everyone
from
Mount
housing,
thanks
to
all
of
you
for
your
great
work
on
this
okay.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
public
hearing.
This
is
the
rezoning
request
from
Heath
white
of
Zen
tubing
and
Debbie
Trumpy
is
going
to
present
this
item.
N
O
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
I'm,
actually
the
office
manager,
not
the
attorney
present
evening.
Mr.
white,
since
his
apologies
last
week,
a
personal
matter
came
up
which
called
him
out
of
town.
This
week
we
contacted
Debbie
troubies
office
to
see
about
getting
a
continuance,
and
she
asked
that
we
show
up
and
asked
for
the
continuance.
A
P
Chairman,
yes,
sir,
the
reason
we're
doing
it
this
way
is
because
this
is
the
public
hearing
and
by
zoning
requirements
by
a
state
statute
and
our
ordinance
public
notice
was
sent
and
made
for
this
public
hearing.
So
it
would
be
up
to
the
board
to
continue
this
meeting
kind
of
a
time
and
date
certain.
Then
we
don't
have
to
go
through
the
expense
of.
D
A
Q
Q
You
would
you
like
me
to
do
that
now.
Yes,
thank
you.
I'd
like
to
read
a
piece
of
information
that
I
believe
has
been
presented
previously
by
miss
Melissa
Acker
of
UNC
Asheville,
but
UNC
Asheville
owns
a
property
directly
across
the
road
from
the
proposed
rezoning.
The
property
encompasses
approximately
35
acres
of
a
very
rare
and
sensitive
habitat,
known
as
the
sandy
bottom
Nature
Preserve.
We
would
like
the
board
to
be
well
informed
of
the
ecological
importance
of
this
property.
Q
The
site
primarily
consists
of
floodplain
communities
that
include
Montaigne
alluvial
forests,
marshes
and
a
swamp
forest
bog
complex.
The
southern
Appalachian
mountain
bog
is
one
of
the
rarest
and
most
imperiled
habitats
in
the
United
States.
Less
than
20%
of
the
mountain
bogs
that
once
existed
still
remain.
Bogs
are
breeding
habitats
for
many
species
of
amphibians,
especially
salamanders.
The
southern
Appalachians
have
a
great
diversity
of
salamanders,
have
the
greatest
diversity
of
salamanders
in
the
nation
in
particular.
Q
The
sandy
bottom
bog
is
rich
in
diversity
of
amphibians
and
reptiles
that
are
associated
with
mountain
wetlands
and
has
more
species
of
salamanders
and
perhaps
any
area
of
comparable
size
in
the
world.
The
turtle
diversity
is
also
exceptional
for
the
Blue
Ridge
province.
Sandy
bottom
is
home
to
several
rare
species.
The
North
Carolina
natural
heritage
program
lists
sandy
bottoms
is
a
significant
natural
heritage
area
with
a
very
high
rating
in
terms
of
need
for
protection.
Q
We
respectfully
request
that
any
planning
this
area's,
mindful
of
the
need
for
protecting
the
sandy
bottom
bog
I,
would
like
to
also
add
that
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
is
also
proposing
a
realignment
and
widening
of
191
in
this
direct
area.
They're,
currently
conducting
an
archeological
survey
of
our
site,
so
we're
concerned
of
the
come
buying
the
impact
of
both
of
these
things
and
just
want
to
express
our
our
concerns,
in
particular
about
the
property.
Thank
you
thank.
A
You
all
right,
don't
see
any
other
comment,
so
there's
a
motion
to
continue
this
to
their
meeting
on
March
the
6th,
any
further
discussion
from
the
board,
all
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
continue
to
march
6th,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
and
to
the
folks
who
are
interested.
Thank
you
for
sharing
your
comments
feel
free
to
return
when
we
take
up
the
matter
again
and
at
that
meeting
all
right.
A
R
That's
inclusive
and
diverse
issues
like
preventing
and
responding
to
opioid
addiction
and
issues
like
justice,
like
rethinking
what
criminal
justice
looks
like
here
in
our
local
community,
and
so
this
as
a
strategic
priority,
is
we're
celebrating
an
anniversary.
Today
it
has
been
one
year
since
we
came
before
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
brought
to
you
a
proposal
for
some
strategies
for
what
we
can
do
to
push
forward
this
work
max.
Do
you
have
slides?
Thank
you.
R
R
We
came
before
you
year
a
year
ago
and
talk
to
you
about
pressures
in
the
system
experiencing
increases
in
the
number
of
people
that
are
in
our
did:
local
County,
Detention
Facility
and
drivers
like
the
number
of
women
who
were
involved
in
the
criminal
justice
system,
people
impacted
by
mental
illness
and
by
substance
use
really
driving
those
numbers.
We
came
before
you
and
talked
to
you
about
how
Buncombe
has
been
a
leader
in
in
criminal
justice
and
justice
resources
for
decades.
R
You
heard
it
again.
702
keep
this
as
a
strategic
policy
issue
for
the
board
going
forward,
and
so
we
thank
you
for
that.
I
am
going
to
turn
the
microphone
over
to
Tiffany
Hannah
Chow
is
who,
when
we
left
here
on
February
21st
2017,
when
our
first
items
of
business
was
going
to
those
national
models
and
pulling
up
job
descriptions
for
justice,
resource
coordinators
and
getting
that
job
posting
and
it's
been
a
journey
and
we're
glad
to
have
Tiffany
here
at
the
helm
and
who
will
give
us
an
update.
R
E
E
So
our
justice
resource,
Advisory
Council,
meets
monthly
and
they've,
been
hard
at
work
to
look
at
best
practices
and
find
ways
that
are
effective
and
efficient.
When
we
think
about
improving
our
criminal
justice
system,
our
representation
of
the
council
consists
of
our
resident
Superior
Court
judge.
Our
chief
district
court
judge
representatives
from
our
law
enforcement
agencies,
Vulcan
County,
Sheriff,
Department
and
APD
clerk
of
court
who's
with
us.
Today,
chief
magistrate,
our
district
attorney
public
defender.
We
have
representatives
from
North
Carolina
Division
of
our
Department
of
Public
Safety,
community
supervision
and
juvenile
justice.
E
Having
kind
of
that
same
model
that
we
use
from
the
Family
Justice
Center
is
having
multiple
partners
in
one
locations
providing
array
of
services,
including
connecting
people
to
resources
being
able
to
offer
three
diversion
programs
and
even
connecting
those
who
are
returning
from
our
community
from
incarceration
from
our
state
prisons
back
into
our
community,
connecting
them
with
housing,
education,
employment
and
transportation.
All
these
efforts
are
to
try
to
reduce
people's
contact
with
the
criminal
justice
system
and
give
them
a
more
self-sufficient
and
sustaining
life
while
rethinking
and
motivating
change
in
their
behavior.
E
So
since
our
opening
we've
served
nearly
400
individuals
and
I
had
kind
of
talked
to
the
staff,
many
of
whom
are
which
are
with
us
today
about
what
is
something
that
you
would
want
the
commissioners
to
hear
about
our
success
and
they
all
started
giving
stories
about
the
people
that
were
impacting
and
I
said
to
myself.
Wow.
That's
four
hundred
people
or
four
hundred
stories
that
we
can
tell
the
commissioners
and
it's
unique,
because
we're
at
one
central
location
and
amongst
all
of
the
feedback
I
got
people
felt
that
this
was
a
safe
place.
E
This
is
the
first
time
they
can
walk
through
the
courthouse
and
have
less
anxiety
and
probably
have
more
of
a
outlook
for
their
future
because
they
might
come
up
and
be
referred
through
their
probation
officer
to
help
connect
them
with
housing.
Then
our
case
managers,
I,
believe
Kendra's
here
with
us,
can
help
link
them
with
housing,
but
they
might
be
talking
about
dang
I,
don't
know.
My
next
meal
is
coming
from
I'm
working
third
shift
and
I
don't
make
a
livable
wage,
and
so
kids,
you
can
say,
hey
I,
have
someone.
E
Maybe
you
can
meet
Elizabeth
who's,
our
income
maintenance
caseworker.
She
can
do
a
food
stamp
application.
We
can
see
if
you're
eligible,
so
we're
getting
expedited
applications
through
for
our
clients.
They
also
can
connect
with
a
BTEC
who's
on
site
and
actually
one
client
particular
he
came
through
and
he
was
talking
about
that
third
shift
job.
So
our
person
that
works
at
a
BTech
Philip,
who
cannot
be
with
her
us
today
but
Shelley,
is
representing
a
BTech.
E
He
got
them
enrolled
in
the
CDL,
so
he's
working
through
his
class
to
become
a
truck
driver
and
during
that
time
period
of
him
securing
that
course
he
was
able
to
get
a
job
working
first
ship
and
getting
a
livable
wage.
So
these
are
some
of
the
lives
that
were
impacting
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
steadily
increasing
the
amount
of
clients
that
we're
serving
as
it
relates
to
pretrial
services.
Thanks
to
your
investment,
we
were
able
to
hire.
E
Pretrial
was
able
to
hire
three
additional
case
managers
and
increase
their
units,
as
relates
tell
electronic
monitoring.
Why
is
that?
So
important
is
because
these
individuals
are
awaiting
trial.
They
can
do
so
safely
in
our
communities,
still
maintaining
their
jobs
and
contacts
with
their
family,
and
we
do
have
a
sense
of
safety.
What
measures
for
those
high-risk
needs?
Individuals,
as
we
look
at
jail
reduction
strategies
and
how
to
effectively
manage
our
jail
populations.
E
The
court
may
use
electronic
monitoring
more
as
a
tool,
and
even
so
using
pretrial
services
to
be
that
connection
in
the
community
for
a
supervision
and
I
believe
over
the
past
year.
So
pre
tri
has
seen
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
the
cases
assigned
to
them
so
pretrial.
During
this
year,
they
were
also
able
to
leverage
outside
resources.
E
They
were
awarded
a
safety
and
justice
grant
through
the
MacArthur
Foundation,
and
this
was
specifically
for
working
with
those
domestic
violence
defendants
and
they
develop
a
protocol
with
the
help
of
our
court
partners
and
our
members
with
the
coordinated
community
response
for
DV.
So
again,
as
we
look
for
different
strategies
about
managing
our
jail
population
and
effectiveness
of
our
criminal
justice
system,
we're
trying
to
link
and
connect
with
national
partners
and
people
who
are
doing
this
work
across
our
country.
E
And
what's
one
thing
that
to
highlight
is
we're
one
of
20
jurisdictions
selected
for
this
innovation
grant
across
the
country
as
it
relates
to
case
processing,
your
investments
went
to
jail,
based
prosecution,
being
able
to
put
assistant
district
attorney
and
Victim
Witness
legal
assistant
into
the
jail,
and
this
really
helps
with
case
processing,
as
it
gives
real-time
interactions
for
those
sitting
in
custody
as
they
await
trial.
Their
attorneys
can
talk
to
the
district
attorney
about
how
to
kind
of
move
this
case
along.
It
actually
replaced
the
current
H
and
I
flee.
E
Felony
plea
calendar
that
was
in
process
a
while
ago,
and
so
the
goal
is
within
seven
days
of
an
attorney's
requests
to
get
a
plea
deal,
this
disposition
can
happen
in
Superior
Court,
so
this
happens
about
eighty
times
since
the
start
of
a
gel-based
prosecution
back
in
October,
I
believe
the
office
of
district
attorney
and
the
partnership.
Buncombe
County
started
a
community
access
portal
and
this
was
to
kind
of
streamline
and
automate
the
court
process.
E
So
essentially,
this
reduces
the
time
that
a
case
is
disposed
of
in
court
and
giving
the
sheriff
and
the
decision
Center
the
order
of
the
court
records
to
release
the
individual
because
they're
not
going
from
office
to
office
to
office
and
then
sending
it
over.
So
essentially,
this
can
happen
over
the
weekend.
They
can
dispose
of
a
case.
The
detention
facility
gets
that
through
electronic
email
or
correspondence,
and
they
can
release
that
person
from
custody.
E
So
again,
this
is
occurred
of
over
300
times,
and
this
is
a
great
way
to
reduce
that
length
of
stay
when
it
comes
to
disposition
and
how
long
they
have
to
wait
until
they
get
released.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
this
year,
but
we
still
have
a
lot
more
to
do.
Our
pretrial
population
is
down
and
roughly
eight
to
nine
percent,
but
our
fimo
in
custody
remains
high.
That's
due
to
a
variety
of
issues,
but
as
we
look
towards
managing
our
jail
population,
we
can
look
at
gender,
specific
programs
and
outcomes.
E
It's
really
target
getting
females
into
custody
for
the
ones
that
really
need
to
be
there.
Another
important
issue
is
our
substance:
abuse
detox
protocols.
Those
are
ones
that
come
into
the
facility
that
have
to
be
medically
monitored
due
to
alcohol
withdrawal,
opiate
withdrawals
and
it's
great
to
have
our
partnership
with
via
our
local
management
care
organization,
to
be
present
with
that
council.
So
we
can
really
look
at
best
practices
of
how
to
diverting
people
with
mental
illness
and
substance
abuse
out
of
our
system.
E
So
this
year
we
in
2017
was
up
sixty
percent
and
there
was
a
few
slides,
I
guess
in
the
beginning,
where
it
showed
that
the
detox
protocols
from
15
to
16
with
30%,
so
it
increases
and
rises
every
year.
Our
next
steps
as
a
council,
we
plan
to
work
towards
making
a
creating
an
improvement
plan
that
will
discuss
goals,
objection,
objectives
and
also
timelines
of
when
we
can
see
and
target
our
effectiveness
for
our
criminal
justice
system.
This
could
include
jail
reduction
strategies.
E
A
part
of
the
innovation
grant
was
going
to
a
convenient
when
you
meet
different
jurisdictions
during
this
work
and
learning
from
them,
and
then
again
there
are
other
opportunities
for
funding,
and
so
we'll
continuously
seek
ways
to
improve
our
criminal
justice
system.
I
have
a
few
representatives
from
our
counsels
to
speak
about
the
work
we
do.
Our
public
defender,
LeAnn
Milton,
a
DA
Ronnie.
If
you
guys
want
to
come
and
share
quickly
sure
if
I'm
missing
anybody.
S
Good
evening,
I'm
leanne.melton
the
chief
public
defender
for
for
buncombe
county.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
public
defender's
office.
Thank
you
for
prioritizing
issues
regarding
our
criminal
justice
system.
Mass
incarceration
in
the
United
States
is
a
serious
problem.
The
United
States
has
5%
of
the
world's
population,
but
25%
nearly
25%
of
its
prisoners.
Thank
you
for
investing
in
solutions.
S
Thank
you
for
investing
in
treatment
and
resources
that
will
help
address
issues
that
bring
many
individuals
into
our
criminal
justice
system,
specifically,
poverty
trauma,
mental
illness
and
substance
use
and
structural
inequities.
Thank
you
for
your
commitment
to
a
diversion
program
that
allows
for
equal
access,
regardless
of
an
individual's
wealth.
The
public
defender's
office
shares
in
your
commitment
to
partnering
criminal
justice
goals
like
protecting
public
safety,
while
helping
people
address
their
underlying
needs
that
caused
them
to
be
justice
involved.
The
public
defender's
office
is
committed
to
data-driven,
accountable,
collaborative
approaches
to
rethinking
justice.
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
Rodney
hasty
I'm
representing
the
district
attorney
Todd
Williams.
He
was
unable
to
be
here
tonight,
but
he
wanted
me
to
send
me
over
to
be
sure
to
tell
you
how
much
we
appreciate
the
county's
investment
in
the
justice
Resource
Center,
one
of
the
you
know,
in
addition
to
just
saying,
thank
you,
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
helpful
to
have
an
illustration.
You
know
exactly
what
we're
talking
about:
I
practiced
criminal
law
for
21
years
now,
it's
hard
to
believe
on
the
prosecution
side
and
on
the
defense
side
and
the
state.
L
You
know
the
legislature
comes
up
with
the
criminal
law
and
because
it's
applicable
all
through
the
state,
it's
very
much
a
one-size-fits-all.
You
know
way
of
addressing
crime.
I
mean
it's.
It
comes
from
the
state
level
down
and
it's
the
same
for
everyone
and
one
example
that
I
wanted
to
use
is.
According
to
the
legislature,
possession
of
any
amount
of
heroin
is
a
felony,
even
if
it's
just
a
little
bit
of
dust
in
the
corner
of
a
baggie,
a
lot
of
people
get
charged
with
felonies.
L
That's
what
the
one-size-fits-all
approach
provides
for,
and
the
reason
that
I
wanted
to
use.
That
example
is
because
the
we
would
not
have
any
other
options
were
it
not
for
the
justice
Resource
Council.
This
is
what
the
GRC
is
for.
It
is
for
recognizing
problems
like
that
and
then
coming
up
with
solutions
that
don't
involve
the
state's
one-size-fits-all
approach
and
now
for
people
that
are
in
that
fit
that
category
they
have
a
very
small
amount,
with
very
little
record.
It's
a
felony
of
operation
of
law.
L
We
now
have
a
sunrise
diversion
program
that
those
people
can
go
to
and
and
as
they
should
get
help
for
their
addiction
problem,
we
would
not
have
had
that
option
before
we
don't
have
it
under
the
state,
but
we
do
have
it
now
under
the
justice
Resource
Center,
and
for
those
reasons
we
just
appreciate
so
much
the
investment
of
time
and
funds
the
County
has
invested
in
this
project.
Thank
you.
R
D
Say:
I'm
truly
humbled
by
the
work
that's
been
done.
It
was
just
a
year
and
to
back
up
the
conversation,
I
think
it
was.
A
year
ago
last
January
Commissioner,
Newman
and
I
met
with
Mandy
and
because
we
were
faced,
there
was
some
of
the
community
that
wanted
us
to
build
a
new
jail
for
48
million
dollars
and
that's-
and
we
said,
there's
got
to
be
other
ways
and
you
all
worked
miracles
to
come
up
with
one,
not
building
a
new
jail,
but
to
a
benevolent
data-driven
system.
D
That
really
really
helps
people
in
the
most
profound
sense
that
don't
have
an
option.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
for
somebody
to
be
in
jail
because
they
don't
have
money,
isn't
equitable
and
what
you've
done.
The
amount
of
work
that
you
and
Tiffany
have
done
was.
This
huge
organization
has
been
extraordinary,
so
I
humbly.
Thank
you.
H
Just
like
to
chime
in
and
express
thanks
to
everyone
also
for
showing
up
this
evening,
you
all
have
done
incredible
work
to
translate
what
was
on
paper
a
year
ago
into
living
breathing
services
and
really
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
get
updates
about
it.
I
think
what
I've
heard
folks
across
Commission
Express
is
ensuring
that
everyone
in
Buncombe
County
has
equal
access
to
a
justice
system
that
treats
them
equitably
and
fairly
and
that
someone's
income
is
not
the
differentiator
between
what
their
experience
is
like
in
that
process.
H
So
we
know
it
takes
a
tremendous
amount
of
vision
and
moxie
and
hard
work
on
long
late
nights
to
give
lift
to
something
like
this.
That's
as
innovative
as
this.
So
thank
you
all
very
much
for
that
hard
work
and
for
the
really
remarkable
collaboration
across
a
lot
of
different
agencies
and
entities
and
parts
of
our
judicial
system.
Thank
you.
All
I
want.
D
M
M
But
what
I
really
hate
is
that,
because
of
the
publicity
we've
been
getting
this
year,
what
we
should
have
on
the
front
page
of
the
paper
every
day
is
what
you
folks
have
done,
because
you're
really
making
a
difference
in
Buncombe
County,
and
this
is
gonna-
be
something
that
will
pay
off
for
us
for
years
to
come
and
it
sure
is
a
lot
cheaper
to
fund
what
you're
doing
than
48
million
for
new
jail.
That
I
question.
If
we
need
anything,
we
don't
need
it.
I
would
never
vote
for
that.
M
B
D
B
You
very
much
yeah
it's
what
happens
when
you
got
a
lot
of
things
on
your
mind.
Sometimes
you
forget
some,
but
the
family
reminded
me
of
the
family,
the
Family
Justice
Center,
and
how
all
of
this
works
together
and
how,
when
you
are
able
to
help
individuals
that
need
that,
and
you
know
in
relation
to
the
wall
and
into
the
to
the
state.
These
are.
These
are
nonviolent
people
that
need
help.
That's
what
this
is.
This
is
not
keeping
people
that
you
know
that
are
not
in
that
category
and
putting
them
back
on
the
street.
B
It's
not
why
we're
doing
it
we're
doing
it,
because
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
we've
you've
been
able
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
results
and
any
in
a
short
period
of
time
and
and
I'm
I'm
glad
it's
going
so
well,
and
we
just
want
to
continue
to
to
send
positive
thoughts
and
work
and
prayers
and
and
helping
that
in
that
direction.
It'll
it'll
make
Buncombe
County
a
better
place.
Thank
you.
A
U
So
chairman
vice-chair
commissioners
back
in
October,
I
made
a
commitment
to
you
in
the
public
to
start
providing
quarterly
financial
information
and
because
of
that
commitment
and
your
direction
to
the
county
manager,
to
provide
regular
financial
updates.
I'm
pleased
to
present
to
you
night
with
the
quarterly
financial
report
for
the
quarter,
ending
December,
31st,
2017
and
I,
don't
know
max.
If
you've
got
the
presentation,
they
probably
want
to
see
that,
as
opposed
to
seeing
me
on
the
screen.
There
we
go
and
you
can
probably
scribe,
move
to
the
next
slide.
So.
U
This
report
is
posted
online
for
you
and
the
public's
viewing
pleasure
it
contains
about
40
pages
of
exciting
and
reading
facts
and
figures
no
worries
tonight.
I
will
not
read
you
this
report.
Instead,
I
will
sort
of
give
you
a
high-level
overview
of
what
is
in
that
report.
There
is
a
general
fund
budget
versus
actual
with
year-end
projections,
there's
also
a
summary
of
major
revenue
sources.
Current
net
County
cost
projections,
a
fund
balance
analysis
as
well
as
information
on
debt
and
investments.
U
Also
in
the
back,
you
will
find
a
summary
of
budget
amendments
to
the
general
fund
that
you,
as
the
board,
approved
since
June,
that
sort
of
summarizes
all
the
budget
amendments
to
the
general
fund
to
date.
At
this
time,
I
want
to
thank
Diane
and
her
staff
and,
and
particularly
my
staff,
for
the
ongoing
efforts
on
this
initiative.
U
I
have
a
Mason
staff
who
produce
amazing
product,
and
this
is
a
testament
to
their
commitment
to
the
organization,
and
so,
with
that
I'm
gonna
hand
it
off
to
Diane
who's,
going
to
hit
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
financial
report.
But
I
will
say
again
that
this
report
is
posted
online.
It
is
on
the
finance
page.
We
probably
will
make
it
available,
probably
a
link
from
the
budget
page
as
well,
and
also
probably
from
our
transparency
site.
U
So
I
would
encourage
you
all
when
you
get
a
chance
or
the
public
when
they
get
an
opportunity
to
peruse
this,
and
certainly
if
there
are
any
questions
from
you
or
the
public
at
any
time.
We
are
certainly
open
open
to
respond
to
those
questions,
but
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
Diane
to
sort
of
give
you
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
the
budget
aspect.
V
So
while
we're
continually
monitoring
the
budget
from
July
first
on,
we
once
we
start
the
projection.
We
look
at
historical
trends.
We
really
rely
heavily
on
our
subject
matter,
experts
in
the
department's
and
then
once
we
get
to
June
and
we're
a
little
closer
to
the
fiscal
year.
Ending
we
actually
start
doing
weekly
projections,
so
I
think
you
have
the
put
the
revenue
slide
up.
Thank
you.
So
everything
you
see
here
is
a
snapshot
as
of
December.
31St
revenues
are
shown
in
the
functional
level.
V
V
V
Another
item
of
interest.
If
you
look
at
the
restricted
intergovernmental
line,
you'll
see,
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
way
short
of
revenue
like
over
ten
million
dollars.
That's
kind
of
an
anomaly
this
year,
because
when
we
budgeted
in
Human
Services
childcare
subsidy
revenues,
we
didn't
really
know
when
NC
fast
was
going
to
go,
live
with
paying
child
care
providers
directly.
So
we
have
that
in
the
budget,
but
they
have
now
taken
it
over.
V
V
So
here's
the
expenditures
and
as
we
did
with
revenues,
it's
got
the
functional
budgets
same
thing
across
and
and
if
you
look
at
the
Human
Services
line
just
like
we
talked
about
projected
to
be
way
under
because
we're
not
going
to
have
that
expense.
I
will
say
that
it's
very
unusual.
After
six
months
of
budget
activity,
the
amended
budget
is
actually
lower
than
the
adopted
budget
and
I
think
that
was
due
to
the
board
action
of
reducing
the
economic
development
incentive
budget
earlier
this
year.
V
So
just
to
kind
of
summarize
those
two
things
together,
you
can
see
there.
The
original
budget
was,
which
is
also
the
adopted
budget.
Three
hundred
thirty
point:
seven
million
dollars
in
expenditures,
315
point
three
million
dollars
in
revenue,
so
that
left
us
a
gap
to
fill
with
fund
balance
of
fifteen
point
three
million,
so
that
has
dropped
some
with
the
amended
budget
again
with
the
economic
development
incentive
reduction.
V
Fourteen
point
two,
then,
in
the
bottom:
if
you
look
at
the
projected
year-end
as
it
stands,
as
of
December
31st,
we're
anticipating
307
point
1
million
in
expenditures
a
little
less
than
that
three.
Three.
Oh
six
point
eight
in
revenue,
so
at
this
point
we're
expecting
to
spend
about
two
hundred
fifty
one
thousand
a
fun
balance,
but
it
is
so
very.
Very
early
and
you'd
expect
this
to
change,
and
you
know
we
could
run
it
probably
every
week
and
have
a
different
month
number,
because
there's
so
many
variables
did
want
to
point
out.
V
You
might
want
to
see
a
different
view
so,
if
you're
interested
in
seeing
it
from
a
departmental
level,
there's
an
appendix
in
the
financial
report
that
gives
you
this
view
that
you're
kind
of
used
to
seeing
in
the
budget
process.
So
if
you
look
in
the
gray
area,
it
shows
you
the
budgeted
expenditures,
revenues
and
net
County
cost
and
then
over
in
the
blue,
shows
you
what
we're
projecting
for
the
actual
so
shows
you
a
little
more
granular
detail
on
how
we
got
to
that
number
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
A
Right,
Thank,
You,
Diane
and
Tim
very
much,
obviously
a
lot
of
data
here,
so
thank
you
for
providing
that
I
would
also
just
share
for
folks
who
might
be
really
interested
in
this.
The
County
Commission
is
holding
a
series
of
budget
work
sessions.
We
had
one
last
Tuesday,
where
you
know
we're
spending
a
lot
of
time,
delving
into
all
of
this
data
in
a
lot
more
detail.
A
So
if
that's
something
you're
interested
in
feel
free
to
attend
our
our
upcoming
budget
work
sessions,
that
will
be
having
monthly
and-
and
maybe
could
you
just
come
in
a
little
bit
more
about
where
people,
in
addition
to
the
information,
that's
on
the
county
website
for
this
agenda
item?
Where
else
can
folks
get
more
information
on
the
county's
financial
status?
And
you
know
where
we
are.
V
So
I
think
Tim
mentioned
this
quarterly
report
is
new.
We'll
have
that
out.
There
multiple
places
the
finance
website.
If
you
go
to
the
main
site
budget,
there's
a
transparency
link
from
the
main
page
it'll
be
there
as
well,
and
then
we
both
if
somebody
wants
to
see
like
popular
annual
financial
reports,
which
are
kind
of
a
more
condensed
version
of
our
big
camera
financial
report.
V
They
can
find
that
on
the
website
under
finance
and
budget
kind
of
excuse
me,
sister
documents
of
budget
and
brief
in
addition
to
a
large
budget
document,
and
then
I
think
we
have
the
work
session
schedule
is
on
the
commissioners
page.
So,
if
anybody's
interested
in
attending
those
that
give
us
the
what's
upcoming.
B
A
X
X
B
I
would
like
to
suggest
that,
as
you
give
these
reports,
we
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
on
them
in
in
here
that
there's
a
little
bit
more
in-depth
explanation
and
because
it's
very
good,
very
good
information
I
think
that
I
mean
you
can
pick
the
you
can
pick
some
of
the
some
of
the
slides
and
go
more
in-depth
on
those,
and
the
other
thing
is
is
that
we
we
have
discussed
in
our
work
sessions.
The
fund
balance.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
we've
discussed.
So
you
know
I
would
like
to
see
us.
B
You
know
when
you
come
back
and
and
talk
to
us
I
would
like
to
hear
okay.
Well,
here's
here's
some
thoughts
on
the
fund
balance,
here's
what
we
could
do,
here's
how
it
would
look
and
we've
also
had
discussion.
You
know
around
the
around
the
tax
rate
you
know
and
how
that
would
look,
and
so,
if
we
either
going
to
be
able
to
discuss
it
in
here
and
I,
don't
want
us
doing
it
in
the
last.
B
U
Although
I
will
say
as
a
result
of
that
discussion,
which
was
very
helpful
last
week,
we
did
actually
on
page
eight
of
the
financial
report,
some
of
the
things
that
we
did
hear
you
say,
which
is
you
didn't
want
to
see
just
percentages,
so
you
will
actually
see
dollar
figures
and
per
capita
cost
of
that
available
fund
balance.
So
I
would
like
to
sort
of
point
that
out
specifically
as
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
addressed
in
this
and
will
continue
to
get
you
more
information
on
those
topics.
I
want.
D
To
reiterate
the
Commissioner
Belcher
said
you
know
a
lot
of
folks
aren't
able
to
come
to
our
work
sessions.
They
don't
have
that
availability
and
the
talk
about
in
the
fund
balances
is
extremely
important
and
you
know
if
we
can
highlight
that
in
here,
because
it
really
does
affect
our
citizens.
Sure.
U
U
A
new
budget
year
come
coming
to
you,
the
first
quarter
of
of
a
new
budget
year,
there's
really
not
much
information.
We
can
give
you
as
far
as
budget
projections,
but
we
would
like
to
start
doing
deeper
dives
in
this
in
this
chamber,
really
to
sort
of
give
you
and
the
public
sort
of
more
information
on
how
we
operate
financially.
U
Y
A
I'll
take
a
first
time
at
it,
so
you
know
we
I
think
you
know
we're
making
a
lot
more
utilization
of
work
sessions
as
a
board,
so
we
are
now
having
basically
you
know.
Most
months,
we
have
a
work
session
in
addition
to
the
two
regular
County
Commissioner
meetings.
Those
meetings
meet
down
on
the
first
floor
of
this
building
and
they
are
open
to
public,
just
like
all
of
our
regular
meetings.
At
the
end
of
this
meeting,
I'll
remind
everyone
that
we're
gonna.
A
Well,
we
do
have
this
joint
meeting
with
the
City
Council
at
our
regular
work
session
time
on
the
13th,
but
these
are
these
are
regular
public
meetings,
so
they
are
open
to
the
public.
We
don't
take
public
comment
then
comment
in
the
meetings,
probably
because
we
don't
vote
on
any
matters
in
those
meetings.
This
is
sort
of
for
information
and
taking
a
deeper
dive
in
issues
and
we're
gonna
typically
have
time
for
during
a
regular
busy,
County
Commission
agenda
meeting,
so
I
think
they've
been
I.
A
Think
they've
been
great
to
just
provide
the
space
to
go
into
a
lot
more
detail
and
a
lot
more
depth
on.
You
know
financial
and
budget
issues
as
well
as
other.
You
know,
issues
like
some
of
them
criminal
justice
issues
that
we
were
talking
about
in
the
previous
session.
So
I've
really
appreciated
the
Commission,
taking
the
additional
time
to
really
spend
on
those
those
issues.
Yeah.
M
A
M
H
C
J
H
Can
you
just
sort
of
walk
us
through
I,
just
wanna,
make
sure
I'm
understanding
the?
Why
we're
seeing
the
at
this
point?
Why
we're
seeing
the
yeren
projected
actual
in
the
instance
of
Human
Services,
its
twelve
million
dollars
less
or
13
million
dollars
less
than
the
amended
budget
amount
just
so
we
can
sort
of
understand
and
track
along
with
that
I.
V
V
Payments,
the
remainder
is
speak
better
to
it,
but
I
think
it's
just
historical
based
on
historical
trends
and
savings
and
the
salary
and
wage
expenses
through
December
31st.
So
if
they've
had
vacancies
or
things
like
that,
then
that
adds
to
savings
and
a
lot
of
variables.
We
work
closely
with
them
so.
A
Going
to
the
issue
of
that,
we
do
forecast
in
the
budget
using
a
lot
of
fund
balance,
but
the
traditional
outcome
is
that
we
in
fact
don't
use
it
and
we
find
ways
to
you
know
to
not
use
the
fund
balance
and
that's
kind
of
consistent
with
the
forecast
here
is
consistent
with
that
sort
of
expectation.
Yes,.
H
V
L
L
V
N
A
Terms
of
the
budget
process,
this
budget
report
is
kind
of
turning
into
a
budget
discussion,
which
is
probably
the
right
thing
that
should
happen,
but
you
know
the
one
other
thing
I
would
say
too
just
in
terms
of
process
for
this
year.
You
know
when
we
do
get
further
into
the
budget
process
and
the
county
manager
produces
a
proposed
budget.
You
know
which
will
be
a
draft
budget
and
then
we'll
approve
it
later.
A
You
know
I
would
like-
and
this
is
that's
both
for
as
a
commissioner
and
for
the
public.
You
know,
I
would
really
like
to
request
that
we
were
that,
basically,
that
the
county
managers
budget
is
produced
as
like
a
heart
in
a
hard
copy
version
that
commissioners
will
receive
and
the
public
can
receive.
You
know
this
data
is
all
great
and
it's
great
to
have
it
in
an
accessible
format
electronically,
but
I
just
I.
A
Think
that
there's
no
there's
just
enough
complexity
to
the
budget,
that
there
is
a
lot
of
value
when
the
budget
comes
out
to
just
receive
a
an
actual
physical
document
that
we
can
have
that
you
can
go
through
and
highlight
and
make
notes
on,
and
you
know
just
for
that
process.
I
think
that'll
be
useful.
It's
not
the
way.
We've
done
it
in
the
past
and
I
like
to
not
print
out
hard
copies
of
things
whenever
we
can.
But
this
is
just
such
an
important
part
of
what
the
county
does.
A
P
P
They're
restricted
in
this
case
to
our
outside
consultants,
Davenport
and
two
attorneys
at
Parker
and
Poe,
who
are
doing
the
heavy
lifting
on
those
bond
or
topics
but
for
our
purses
today.
This
is
the
follow
up
to
approve
the
resolution.
We
had
the
public
hearing
two
weeks
ago
for
the
65
million
dollars,
and
this
is
all
toward
the
core
functions
of
the
county
school
related
issues
as
limited
obligation,
bonds,
as
opposed
to
general
obligation
bonds.
P
For
the
stated
projects
now,
there's
a
couple
dozen
projects
involved
and
the
laundry
list
some
small,
some
large,
but
here
the
main
work
is
the
visible
work
we
all
know:
driving
down:
McDowell
Avenue
at
Asheville,
high
and
again
RB
Jones,
Montford,
North,
Star
and
community.
So
we're
asking
the
board
to
approve
this
resolution
and
that
would
allow
for
collateral
against
Asheville
high
school
in
Montford
North
Star
for
a
20-year
term
for
that
65
million
dollars-
and
this
is
article
39
sales,
tax,
money
dedicated
and
the
board
is
not
pledging.
A
All
right,
thank
you
any
questions
from
the
board
at
this
time.
We
will
have
public
comment
on
this,
but
are
there
any
questions?
These
are
all
four
projects
that
we
have
all
ready
approved.
So
this
is
just
assuming
the
financing
from
the
sales
tax
revenue
for
those
purposes,
so
we're
not
approving
any
new
projects.
It's
just
a
financing
for
those
existing
approved
projects
and
the
projects
of
these
projects
have
begun
all
right.
All
right,
we
will
see
if
there's
is
there,
anyone
who
has
any
any
members
of
the
public
have
a
comment
on
this
item.
J
J
Yes,
but
the
discussion
on
it
I,
don't
remember
it
because
I,
certainly
myself
would
have
been
opposed
to
it,
because
that's
a
lot
of
cost
in
a
building
to
house
kids,
that
they're
wanting
to
house
and
on
this
general
gas
money
here,
I
understand
the
funding
of
it.
I'm
the
funding.
There's
no
problem,
I
see
this
coming
going.
It's
just
a
way
to
refine
it,
but.
N
J
A
Right,
thank
you.
Anyone
else
all
right,
we'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board.
I
just
would
comment
on
this.
You
know
we
do
these.
These
projects
all
came
recommended
from
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission,
which
the
Asheville
City
School
Board,
the
Buncombe
County
School
Board
Pat
Bryant
from
the
County
School
Board,
represents
the
County
School
Board
on
that
process.
I
think
these
projects
have
all
been
vetted
by
both
the
county
school
board
internally
and
then,
and
then
the
city
school
board,
and
then
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission
and
again
they've
all
been
previously.
A
They
have
come
to
the
County,
Commission
and
they've
they've
been
voted
on
here
too.
So
I
think
there's
been
a
good.
You
know
very
thorough
process
from
staff
the
school
boards
and
this
this
body
to
what
to
rank
all
the
projects
within
each
school
system,
and
these
were
projects
that
rose
that
rose
to
the
top
I'm.
Sorry.
Is
there
a
question
yeah.
B
X
N
Z
Hello,
I'm
Dustin
Clark
from
the
Buncombe
County
finance
department,
I'm
here,
to
convey
some
information
from
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission
so
kind
of
following
on
to
the
topic
that
we
just
had
a
motion
on
I've
got
a
few
slides
here
to
walk
you
through
just
a
few,
so
I'll
talk
briefly
on
the
Commission,
give
you
an
update
on
what's
been
happening.
There
review
some
of
the
latest
requests
that
have
been
made
and
then
present
a
recommendation
from
the
school
capital
funding
Commission.
Z
Z
The
Commission
looks
at
those
revenues
and
then
determines
what
capacity
is
suitable
for
funding
with
the
goal
of
making
this
fund
self-sustaining,
so
that
this
operates
kind
of
aside
from
the
general
fund,
then
the
Commission
works
with
schools
to
prioritize
their
needs
using
criteria
around
safety
and
cost
efficiency,
and
the
schools
have
been
heavily
involved
in
that
and
then.
Lastly,
they
create
a
recommendation
for
funding
for
funding
and
that's
what
I'm
here
today
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
so
briefly,
just
a
couple
items.
The
last
time
the
Commission
met
there.
Z
There
was
a
tentative
plan
adopted
or
informally
adopted
to
to
plan
out
when
this
commission
would
bring
recommendations
to
the
board.
There's
been
a
lot
of
activity
happening
over
the
last
couple
years,
as
this
commission
kind
of
spun
up
as
a
newly
reformed
Commission.
So
the
plant,
the
plan
you
see
on
screen
is,
is
what
what
the
plan
is
so
far.
Z
So
there's
an
initial
cycle
that
is
happening
now
and
so
we're
here
a
little
early,
but
the
deadline
would
be
to
present
an
original
recommendation
by
April
to
you
and
then
another
one
tentative
tentatively
planned
for
October.
However,
the
Commission
is
that
the
is
really
operating
on
the
needs
of
the
school
system.
So
if
there
are
additional
needs
they
would
meet
in
order
to
meet
those
needs
and
address
them
whenever
that's
necessary,
but
on
screen
now
there's
an
outlook
for
funding.
Z
So
to
recap
the
three
bars
on
the
left
in
the
shaded
area
represent:
what's
happened.
So
far,
so
in
2017
there
was
a
rather
large
award
forty
four
point:
four
million
dollars
awarded
and
funded
to
the
schools
and
that's
part
of
the
LOB's
issuance
that
we
just
heard
about
2018
another
fourteen
point.
Z
We're
trying
to
be
very
conservative
with
those
estimates
and
those
estimates
are
subject
to
change
based
on
you
know:
revenue
changes,
interest
rate
changes
so
for
school
year,
2019
you'll
notice,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
gap
between
what's
been
awarded
so
far.
That
fourteen
point
two
three
and
the
shaded
area
above
it
at
15:15
million
and
that
gap
is
why
we're
here
today
the
Commission
was
recommending
a
few
more
projects
to
use
up
the
remaining
capacity
for
that
school
year,
and
then
we
would
anticipate
that
would
be
the
the
remainder
of
school
year.
Z
19
funding
and
we
would
be
looking
at
school
year-
2020
20,
funding,
moving
forward.
So
to
talk
about
the
recommendation
fairly
simple.
Once
again,
we
only
had
just
a
little
bit
of
capacity
left
for
2019
school
year,
so
three
projects
there,
one
for
the
Asheville
high
school,
the
old
ROTC
building-
is
not
in
good
shape.
Z
That's
actually
not
suitable
for
occupation
at
the
moment,
and
so
that
building
has
been
cordoned
off
folks
are
not
allowed
in
there,
but
they
would
like
to
proceed
with
demolition,
demolition
of
that
building
and
stabilization
of
the
wall,
and
it's
actually
more
cost
efficient
to
do
that
now,
because
there
are
crews
on
site
doing
the
other
Asheville
high
work,
the
cost
for
that
project
is
estimated
to
be
four
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
for
the
Buncombe
County
school
system,
the
erlan
High
School.
There
is
a
school
nutrition
kitchen
replacement.
Z
This
includes
some
design
services
as
well
as
investigating
and
cost
estimating
the
the
full
cost
of
that
project.
However,
timing
is
very
sensitive.
Here
is
what
we
heard
from
the
school
system,
so
they
need
to
get
equipment
on
order
and
they
need
that
funding
as
soon
as
they
can
in
order
to
save
cost
on
the
equipment
side,
so
the
cost
stairs
one
hundred
thirty
two
thousand.
And
lastly,
the
Commission
has
already
awarded
some
funding
for
an
LED
lighting
replacement
project
across
both
school
districts.
Z
B
C
A
D
So
it's
my
understanding,
part
of
the
problem.
The
county
schools
had.
There
was
a
limited
number
of
time
time,
a
finite
amount
of
time
to
get
the
bulbs
installed
and,
as
my
understanding,
they
just
didn't
have
the
manpower
to
install
them
all
within
a
certain
amount
of
time,
and
so
the
rebates
would
what
that's.
A
Right
I
mean
it's
like
a
it's:
a
meanness
they're
doing
the
lighting
retrofits
across
all.
You
know
every
basically
every
county
school
in
Buncombe
County
and
making
great
progress
on
it.
But
it's
like
a
two
and
a
half
year
project
from
start
to
finish
or
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood
and
so
Duke
you
know,
is
providing
a
rebate
that
contributes
to
it,
but
they
have
adjusted
downward
the
rebates.
So
there
is
that's
the
reason
for.
C
D
B
Just
I
wanted
the
information
it's
a
little
bit
disappointing,
but
I
understand
that
there
there
are
deadlines
on
rebates
and
and
based
on
the
information
you
said
it's
I
mean
you
know
we're
we're.
Gonna
have
to
look
at
this
across
the
board.
Does
this
take
care
of
all
the
schools,
or
is
this
like
a
rehabber
as.
B
AA
D
B
D
M
J
AA
Are
using
in-house
forces
to
do
the
replacements,
and
that
involves
a
light
fixture
like
that?
Basically
just
the
can
remains
and
the
guts
get
changed
out
and
the
lamps
as
well
they're
LED,
but
the
whole
guts
are
changed
out
and
we
have
two
crews
working
on
that
dedicated
to
it.
We're
about
half
done
okay,
but
it's
going
to
take
more
than
a
year
to
complete
the
rest
of
it
and
we're.
AA
Next
January
could
be
a
new
adjustment
to
that
rebate,
but
we'll
have
all
the
funding
in
place
and
we'll
have
bought
the
fixtures.
You
can't
just
go
out
and
buy
all
the
fixtures.
You
have
a
limited
time
between
when
they'll
rebate
you
and
you
know,
when
you
purchase
them
and
when
they'll
rebate,
so
they've
kind
of
got
to
work
together.
AA
They
change
the
there.
Basically,
it's
a
rebate
on
the
amount
that
we
get
when
we
purchase
the
fixtures
and
they
reduced
that
from
50
to
37
dollars.
It
could
be
next
year
next
January
that
they
reduce
it
again,
but
our
intention
is
to
have
all
our
purchases
made.
They
will
not.
They
just
they're.
Just
looking
at
the
light
fixture
itself.
D
AA
A
Z
K
A
I
I
can
get
complex
when
it
comes
to
sewer
and
water,
but
when
it
comes
to
LEDs,
I
can't
and
I've
heard
well,
maybe
I
don't
know
I'm,
not
sure
I've
also
put
a
replacement
to
house
in
my
bathroom
and
I
had
to
pay
$45
for
a
light
that
could
never
be
replaced
because
when
it
goes
dead,
guess
what
you
do
buy
a
new
one,
so
I'd
like
to
know
number
one
or
these
LED
lights
they're
putting
in
the
schools.
Are
they
a
fixture
or
are
they
the
light
itself?
I
That
is
part
of
the
fixture
and
when
it
goes
bad,
does
it
have
to
be
totally
removed
and
replaced?
I'd
like
to
know
that
question
and
a
very
simple
question
of
the
eight
hundred
and
some
thousand
dollars
I've
heard
we
were
getting
funding
from
here
funding
from
here
and
funding
from
here
we
know
the
lottery
money
is
there.
We
know
the
rebates
there.
We
also
know
they
have
construction
money
on
that
tax.
How
much
of
that
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
coming
from
me,
the
taxpayer
I'd
like
to
know
that
this
is
very
simple
folks.
I
A
All
right,
I,
don't
see
anyone
else,
hey,
Tim
fearly,
if
you
would
mind
coming
back
up
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
the
what
kind
of
lighting
systems
these
are,
what
the
taxpayers
are
getting
pissed
and
I
would
just
add,
I
think
the
taxpayers
are
paying
for.
You
know
for
100
percent
of
this
there's.
I
N
AA
They're
fixtures
not
unsimilar
to
this
they're
two
foot
by
four
foot
typically,
but
they
look
very
similar
to
this.
They
have
a
very
long
life
span,
so
the
school
capital
fund,
Commission,
was
presented
by
our
maintenance
director
and
our
energy
manager,
a
pretty
intense
analysis
of
the
savings
that
these
fixtures
would
result
in,
and
so
those
are
our
operating
savings.
Electricity
every
year
also
maintenance
savings,
you
don't
really
change
bulbs.
AA
We
have
we're
constantly
changing
lamps,
which
are
difficult
to
dispose
of
the
fluorescent
lamps,
it's
a
big
cost
in
operating
and
and
actually
purchasing
the
lamps
themselves.
But
these
fixtures
have
a
very
excellent
warranty.
They
they're
expected
to
last
a
very
long
time
and
we
will
not
have
to
replace
the
guts
of
it
in
20
years
when
they,
the
expected
lifespan
of
these
there's,
basically
a
transformer.
AA
It's
called
a
control
or
an
LED
that
can
go
bad
and
would
be
replaced,
but
I
think
when
you
factor
in
the
maintenance
and
the
operating
costs
of
the
light
fixtures,
there's
a
huge
savings
that,
if
at
energy
costs
today
looking
over
20
years
at
what
it
energy
is
going
to
go
up
in
in
costs
over
time.
So
we
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna,
beat
that
I
think.
A
And
just
to
put
an
exclamation
point
on
that
I
mean
we
did
talk
about
this
when
the
project
first
came
to
us.
I
believe
that
from
the
maintenance
cost
and
the
actual
electricity
cost,
the
LED
lighting
program
is
gonna,
save
taxpayers
in
Buncombe
County
a
million
dollars
a
year.
So
it's
it's
probably
one
of
the
best
clean
energy
projects,
but
also
is
probably
the
best
tax
payer
projects
we've
ever.
You
know,
we've
ever
had.
H
A
All
right,
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
work
on
this
one
Thank
You
Dustin.
Alright.
The
next
item
is
the
board
appointments,
so
let's
just
take
them
in
the
order
that
they
appear
on
our
sheet.
So
the
first
is
the
the
Asheville
Board
of
adjustments
and
the
county
has
one
appointment
to
this
board.
There
are
two
applicants,
one
of
whom
was
not
able
to
attend
today.
A
Did
we
ever
get
any
information
about
the
reason
the
person
who
was
scheduled
was
not
able
to
come
today,
but
you
did,
she
did
confirm
she
was
gonna,
be
able
to
come,
but
then
was
not
able
to
be
here
today.
We're
not
sure
why
okay
well
I've
heard
some
commissioners
who
would
like
to
try
to
schedule
a
time
to
talk
to
that
candidate,
since
we
only
have
two
candidates
for
this.
You
know
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
boards
I
would
lean
in
that
direction.
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
other
do.
P
B
B
It
was
you're
right,
I
do
think
that
you
know.
Last
time
you
know
some.
Some
people
were
prepared
to
vote,
but
we
extended
the
interview
to
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
to
talk
to
I
think
particularly
to
make
sure
that
we
were
able
to
talk
to
to
both
of
them.
But
I'm.
Just
curious
I
mean
if
it
was
no
emergency
or
I
mean
I.
A
B
A
Right,
why
don't
we
just
deal
with
the
suggestion?
I
just
see
you
just
raise
your
hand
if
you
prefer
to
hold
off
until
we
can
do
an
interview,
if
there's
a
majority
that
wants
to
hold
off
we'll,
do
that
if
there's
not
we're
gonna
vote,
all
right
who
would
like
to
hold
off
all
right
looks
like
there's
four
who
want
to
hold
off
till
we
can
get
see
if
autumn
is
still
want
wanting
to
do
this,
and
if
she
is,
let's
try
to
interview
her
and
I
just
hate.
B
B
We
need
to
know
that
pretty
quick,
because
this
is
an
important
board
position.
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it's
an
unreasonable
I
mean
we.
We
need
to
have
some
communication
back
and
you
know
the
interview
needs
to
be
scheduled.
You
know,
I
mean
it
needs
to
be,
it
needs
to
be
done,
but
and
if
they're
not
there
at
that
time,
we
need
to
vote.
I
mean
I.
Think.
A
X
A
Right,
yeah,
all
right:
let's
move
on
to
the
next
one,
which
is
the
other
board
of
adjustments.
So
we've
got
a
bunch
of
great
applicants
and
there's
only
two
bacon.
Two
vacancies
on
this,
so
I
think
probably
the
best
way
to
do
this
is
we'll
just
start
from
one
side.
And
what
I'd
like
to
ask
each
Commissioner
to
do
is
to
identify
the
two.
The
two
candidates
that
you
support
and
the
candidates
who
get
the
most
votes
will
them
will
be
appointed.
So
let
me
start
on
Commissioner
start
with
mr.
A
A
A
M
A
We
now
have
public
comment.
Let
me
just
go
over
our
policies
for
that.
The
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
any
matters
during
the
public
comment.
This
is
the
public's
to
speak
to
the
Commission.
The
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
subjects
that
have
already
previously
been
presented
and
had
public
comment
during
the
board
meeting
this
evening.
T
T
Righty,
thank
you.
In
late
2013,
then
representative,
Tim
Moffett
and
representative
Chuck
McGrady
wrote
a
law
to
take
control
of
Asheville's
water.
The
law
eventually
passed
the
House
and
Senate
after
several
lawsuits
in
late
2016,
the
North
Carolina
Supreme
Court
ruled
in
favor
of
Asheville,
saying
that
the
taking
of
Asheville's
water
was
unconstitutional,
I'd,
like
to
quote
from
a
December
21st
2016
Citizen
Times
article
announcing
the
decision
of
the
North
Carolina
Supreme
Court
judges,
a
member
of
the
GOP
majority,
General
Assembly
Representative
Chuck
McGrady.
T
Meanwhile
said
the
court
decision
may
not
be
the
final
word
and
there
may
be
other
ways
to
loosen
the
city's
control.
As
I've
said
in
the
past,
there
are
more
than
one
way
to
skin.
A
cat
representative
McGrady
is
relentless
in
his
efforts
to
take
control
of
Astral's
water.
For
the
past
seven
years
he
has
been
using
his
legislative
authority
in
the
North
Carolina
House
to
take
our
water
when
he
says
he
is
trying
to
work
with
Asheville
to
resolve
water
issues.
Please
realize
that
there
are
no
issues
to
be
resolved.
T
The
courts
resolved
the
Asheville
water
issues
over
a
year
ago,
representative
McGrady
efforts
appear
to
be
conciliatory
and
cooperative.
His
actions
in
the
legislature
are
antagonistic
and
punitive
making
it
difficult
to
believe
his
altruistic
motives
and
his
acting
with
integrity.
Please
consider
this:
should
the
county
enter
into
discussions
with
him
for
supporting
materials
about
representative
McGrady's,
unrelenting
fight
for
Asheville's
water?
Please
visit
a
web
site
called
save
our
water
Western
North
WNC
save
our
water
WNC
dot
komm.
Thank
you
very
much.
AB
AC
Thank
you
very
much.
I
am
inspired
to
speak
this
evening
because
of
the
presentation
about
the
justice.
Resource,
Center
and
I
am
so
proud
to
represent
a
district
that
has
treatment,
courts,
family
justice,
court,
the
Family
Justice
Center
and
the
justice
Resource
Center,
and
so
the
reason
I
am
here
tonight
is
to
ask
you
because
I
believe
that
these
on
these
initiatives
of
yours
may
be
under
attack
by
the
General
Assembly
through
the
through
the
redistricting
of
the
courts,
that
they
are
attempting.
AC
If
you
look
at
at
the
Buncombe
County
district,
28,
Judicial
District,
there
is
no
reason
to
subdivide
it.
It
is.
There
are
at
least
four
similar
districts
that
are
bigger
than
Buncombe
County,
and
there
are
four
districts.
Those
same
four
districts
have
more
district
court
judges
than
we
do
yet
they
are
kept
whole.
While
we
are
divided.
If
you
look
at
the
the
district
court
districts
that
they
are
dividing,
they
just
happen
to
coincide
with
the
very
frequently
anyway,
with
those
districts
that
are
representative
represented
by
Democrats
in
the
Senate.
So
what
I
am
suggesting?
AC
Is
that
the
reason
for
breaking
our
28th
Judicial
District
into
two
or
three
districts
for
election
purposes
is
simply
to
change
the
partisan
makeup
of
our
courts
and
I
have
reason
to
believe
at
the
district
level
that
the
reason
they
want
to
do?
That
is
because
they
are
opposed
to
some
of
the
progressive
initiatives
that
we
talked
about
this
evening.
AC
As
evidence
of
that
I
can
suggest
the
the
legislation
that
was
in
the
budget
that
made
it
more
difficult
for
other
judicial
districts
to
reduce
fines
for
indigent
defendants
and
a
bill
that
was
brought
this
year.
That
would
have
standardized
the
approach
toward
treatment
courts
when
I
asked
the
the
sponsor
of
that
bill.
If
she
would
consider
some
legislation,
an
amendment
to
that
that
would
hold
our
treatment
courts,
harmless
I
was
told
that
was
inconsistent
with
the
intent
of
the
bill.
AC
AD
Chairman
commissioners,
I'm
Terry,
Wells
I'm,
a
community
member
in
sandy,
mush
and
I'm
here
to
thank
you
this
evening.
We
really
appreciate
the
support
you
have
given
us
financially
over
the
past
year
and
part
about
that
went
to
our
high
speed,
internet
and
I.
There's
there's
many
ways
that
that's
having
an
impact
on
our
community,
but
I
want
to
share
one
way
that
really
excites
me
and
I
feel
like
you
will
really
care
about
as
well
the
that
is
allowed.
AD
There
were
some
community
members
that
came
to
me
recently
and
they
said
now
that
we
have
this
high-speed
Internet
in
the
community.
Well,
you
work
with
us
and
reach
out
to
a
BTEC
and
try
to
get
some
high
school
equivalency
program
to
where
we
can
do
online
classes
here
and
have
that
support
so
that
we
can
get
our
high
school
get
our
GED
and
that
class
is
already
full
I've
already
worked
with
a
BTech.
We
have
our
orientation
March,
7th
and
we'll
be
starting.
AD
That
program-
and
this
is
this-
has
the
potential
to
be
life-changing
for
community
members,
because
we
all
know
that
without
a
high
school
diploma,
your
opportunities
are
pretty
limited.
Sorry,
but
so
I
just
want
to
thank
you
so
much
for
that
support
and
what
it
means
to
our
community
and.
T
AD
I
also
want
to
say
our
centi
much
4-h
was
here
earlier
and
I
was
40
years
ago.
I
was
in
that
4-h
club
when
it
was
started
in
San,
Dimas
and
I
like
to
think
that
part
of
my
community
service
and
caring.
So
much
comes
from
being
active
in
that,
and
we're
really
excited
about
the
opportunity.
They've
come
to
us
and
they
really
want
to
be
back
in
the
community
center
and
it
doesn't
really
work
well
for
them
in
the
big
gym.
AD
AD
And
that
means
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
do
work
on
our
third
floor
to
regain
that
and
so
I
just
hope
that
you
will
take
that
into
consideration
and
continue
your
support
of
us
and
we
so
much
appreciate
what
you've
done
for
us
already,
and
we
just
really
want
to
continue
to
partner
with
you.
And
we
appreciate
you
and
thank
you
very
much
all.
J
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
board:
okay,
y'all
have
got
good
emails
from
me
this
week
and
give
you
kudos
you're
to
smile
about
that.
I
mean
good.
Lord
get
a
pat
on
the
back
from
me.
You
better
deserve
it.
You
know
now
a
news
release
just
yesterday
got
to
my
hands
about
mrs.
green
and
what
the
contaminant
Lord
how
they
condemned
her
to
death.
You
know
about
her
role
here.
Let
me
tell
you
mrs.
J
green
might
have
done
some
bad
things,
but
this
board
of
commissioners
and
the
one
that's
responsible,
didn't
do
your
job
to
begin
with
and
you're
not
doing
a
really
good
job
on
some
of
this
stuff
right
now
now
you
can
attack
mrs.
green,
but
they
need
some
housecleaning
here.
You
didn't
go
far
enough
in
your
real
organization.
You
need
to
get
rid
of
the
attorneys
that
was
on
board
at
that
time.
J
I
was
talking
about
the
ones
that
we
got
right
now
get
rid
of
them
and
you
need
to
start
her
as
a
top
management
and
get
rid
of
that.
You
got
me
if
you
don't
clean
the
sewer
line
out.
You're
not
going
no
word
with
this
order
now,
if
that's
hard
to
take
live
with
it
under
mrs.
green
I
was
able
to
get
public
information.
J
Mr.
Yelton
sued,
mrs.
green
in
court
because
of
a
gatekeeper
issue
he's
sitting
back
there.
He
can
attest
to
it.
We've
got
an
attorney
over
here
that
is
being
a
gatekeeper
and
blocking
public
information
and
Yun's
are
providing
right
now,
while
we're
talking
the
resources
for
him
to
do
it,
he
is
blocking
it.
Everything
is
going
through
your
attorney.
That
is
wrong.
If
I
got
public
information
under
mr.
green,
it
must
have
been
pretty
good.
Now,
when
you
talk
about
your
staff
and
what
a
role
they
played
and
how
intimidated
they
would
by
mrs.
J
green
and
the
power
that
she
had,
you
got
the
same
process
in
place.
Right
now,
with
different
people
might
not
be
the
manager,
but
the
attorney
and
the
HR
person
when
you
build
the
corner
stall
down
there
for
the
HR
person
and
she's
in
every
meeting
hand
Tim
of
dating
is
it
for
the
HR
people
to
show
up
every
you
need
to
think
about
what
you're
doing,
if
you
don't
like
it,
that's
okay
live
with
it,
because
there's
bigger
things
ahead.
If
you
don't
deal
with
this,
thank.
I
I,
don't
introduce
myself
most
people
either
I
tell
everybody
bucket
caddies
go
ahead
and
ask
people
about
me.
You
either
like
me,
or
you
hate
me
and
I'm
so
proud
of
that,
because
I
don't
straddle
the
fence,
you
know
exactly
I
feel
and
I
say
what
a
thing
to
your
face.
That's
the
best
part
German
noon.
I
know
that
tax
dollars
pay
everything
in
this
building.
They
pay
the
salaries
of
the
police.
They
pay
your
salaries,
they
pay
everything.
I
I
I
So
you
got
to
have
a
little
humor
in
this,
because
if
you
took
this
thing
seriously,
you'd
go
crazy
because
Jerry's
right
when
I
read
that
public
announcement
from
the
Association
of
County
Commissioners
I
wanted
to
puke,
they
didn't
mention
a
thing
about
the
Director
of
Human
and
Health
Services
in
Wake
County
that
was
arrested.
They
didn't
mention
a
thing
about
all
the
people
in
the
county
that
have
been
arrested
for
embezzlement
of
money.
I
think
that
somebody
was
associated
with
the
Board
of
Elections.
One
place
was
embezzling
money.
I
They
didn't
mention
a
thing
about
that.
You
know
who's
responsible
for
anything
that
goes
on
wrong.
You
ran
for
the
job,
you
got
the
job
and
it's
you
and
if
you
go
out
there,
that
hall
and
walk
down
that
hall
and
look
at
the
right
on
the
pictures,
that's
the
people
that
let
things
in
Buncombe
County
get
the
way
they
are.
Now.
You
got
a
good
start
and
frankly,
I
look
Mandy
straight
in
the
eye.
I've
known
Mandy,
a
long
time.
I
I
know
a
couple
of
her
brothers
from
Blackmun
they
used
to
meet
of
the
morning
and
I
guarantee
she's
gonna
smile.
What
I
say
that,
because
we
both
know
the
brother
I'm
talking
about
you're
all
are
headed
in
the
right
place,
but
when
you
vote
seven,
no
up
there
on
who's
gonna
be
appointed
for
a
board.
You
know
what
I
think
my
little
pea-brain
they've
been
talking
about,
who
they're
gonna
vote
for
before
they
got
in
this
room.
You
don't
have
a
7o
vote
that
you've
done
that
and
by
the
way.
I
If,
since
the
yellow
light
goes
off,
just
a
minute,
I
might
take
a
few
extra
minutes.
I'm.
Not
a
senator
and
I
appreciate
the
senator
being
here,
but
I
noticed
when
the
yellow
light
went
off.
The
red
light
didn't
come
home
and
she
was
talking.
In
other
words,
do
we
have
two
sets
of
rules
for
the
elected
and
the
guy?
That's
paying
the
bill.
I
think
we
do
I
want
my
question
answered.
AB
AB
We
are
overtaxed
okay,
yet
a
new
budget,
we
will
be
facing
additional
tax
increases,
but
Commissioner
Belcher
had
proposed
a
one
penny
deduction
and
due
to
the
money
that
was
wrongly
paid
out
through
the
bonus,
I
proposed
the
tax
reduction
due
to
the
excessive
amount
of
money
that
we
have
in
the
rainy
day
funds.
It
is
evident
that
we
are
paying
enough
to
start
giving
pay
raises
to
the
taxpayers
in
the
form
of
tax
cuts.
AB
We
as
a
county,
still
need
to
be
looking
for
ways
to
cut
spending,
but
I
also
think
that
we
need
to
stimulate
our
local
economy
and
I
think
that
we
can
do
that
by
reducing
our
property
tax.
It's
also
going
to
benefit
their
small
businesses.
Mr.
Commissioner
prezi
has
a
small
business
I'm
sure
he
would
appreciate
that,
and
anybody
else
that
has
a
small
business
in
here
in
Buncombe.
AB
It's
going
to
continue
unless
we
address
these
things,
and
that
was
one
thing
as
most
of
you
all
know,
I
was
running
for
county
commissioner
and
that's
part
of
my
platform
that
we
need
to
look
out
for
our
local
folks,
people
sitting
out
here,
the
ones
that
own
property
and
the
ones
that
are
spending
a
lot
of
money
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
that.
You
guys
can
do
what's
right.
You
have
an
opportunity
and
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Belcher
that
we
do
need
to
do
something
I,
just
don't
think
the
proposal
is
enough.
A
Only
I
would
say
I'm
they're,
very
moving
comments,
but
I
am
cognizant
of
our
policies
about
not
commenting
I
mean
people
will
sometimes
say
things
that
are
constructively
critical,
sometimes
they'll,
say
really
nice
things
to
us
and
I
just
die.
I
want
us
to
try
to
kind
of
stay
in
the
habit
of
listening
and
I
know
it's
very
tempting
to
respond.
So
that's
my
my
personal
view.
One
this
time
of
the
meeting.
F
A
Expectations
here,
there's
regular
stuff
yeah,
that's
good.
It's
gonna
be
great.
On
March,
6th
at
5:00
p.m.
will
be
the
next
meeting
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
in
room
326,
a
tuner
in
College
Street
on
march
13th
at
3:00
p.m.
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
the
Asheville
City
Council
will
hold
a
joint
meeting
in
the
first
floor
of
the
conference
room
at
200,
College
Street
on
March
13th
at
5:30
p.m.