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From YouTube: Commissioners' Regular Meeting (March 15, 2022)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for March 15, 2022. To view the agenda, visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting,
I
wanted
to
announce
that
any
members
of
the
public
who
attended
this
meeting
using
the
county's
parking
decks
or
public
transit
could
have
your
validation
for
parking
or
transit
validated
by
one
of
the
officers
who's
with
us.
This
evening,
you
can
see
them
on
your
way
out.
It's
valid
for
today.
Only
I'd
like
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
A
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
matters
voted
on
by
the
board.
At
this
meeting,
commissioners,
are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
A
You
could
share
your
your
where
you
live.
B
Okay,
so
anyway,
my
name
is
kathy
stillwell
and
I
live
at
410
rolling
road
in
swatanoa.
So
I
wrote
this
down.
I
had
to
take
a
deep
breath
because
this
is
nerve-wracking,
and
I
have
never
really
done
this
before
so
we
were
here
on
march,
the
first
to
tell
you
about
our
situation
with
our
dollar
general
store.
That
is
presently
going
up.
B
As
you
may
recall,
we
were
here
to
plead
our
case
since
that
meeting,
as
predicted
numerous
near
near
misses
with
construction
traffic
have
occurred
just
about
every
day.
I
was
pulled
into
rolling,
pulling
into
roland
and
a
truck
pulled
out
from
the
driveway
at
the
same
time
and
nearly
hit
me
and
the
car
behind
me.
Nearly
rear-ended
me
you'll
hear
more
stories
from
others.
There's
three
other
people
that
are
going
to
discuss
this
as
well.
B
B
Roland
was
blocked
yesterday
with
construction
trucks.
On
march,
the
7th
engineers
mark
gibbs
and
chris
merlin
from
the
north
carolina
department
of
transportation
agreed
to
meet
us
at
the
site.
We
were
very
appreciative
of
that
matt
barker,
who
could
not
attend
tonight,
showed
them
the
measurements
he
matt
had
had
taken.
Then
they
did
the
same
after
they
took
the
measurements
they
agreed.
Mistakes
were
made.
B
You
were
right
and
you
caught
it.
They
tried
to
explain
the
wording
to
justify
the
variances.
It's
like
they're,
trying
to
help
dollar
general
make
justifications
for
an
illegal
entrance
or
driveway,
whatever
you'd
like
to
call
it.
This
isn't
just
a
mistake.
It's
an
accident
waiting
to
happen.
It
wasn't
just
a
few
feet
on
the
measurements.
The
minimum
footage
for
a
corner
clearance
was
supposed
to
be
a
hundred
feet.
B
B
We
have
diagrams
to
prove
how
long
it
takes
for
a
car
to
stop
if
one
pulls
in
front
of
the
other
kind
of
like
what
you
know
you
did
in
driver's
ed.
You
know
if
you're
driving
60
miles
an
hour,
how
long
it
takes
you
to
stop
well,
if
somebody's
pulling
out
in
front
of
you
from
a
driveway,
it's
the
same
factor,
so
we
asked
the
construction
entrance
to
be
halted
until
it
could
be
reviewed
for
our
safety
concerns
and
engineers
said
that
isn't
going
to
happen.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
brandi
norton,
I'm
also
a
resident
of
swananoa
north
carolina,
149
roland
road,
and
I'm
also
here
to
talk
about
the
dollar
general
being
built
in
our
neighborhood.
I
won't
get
into
my
grievances
with
the
planning
department
at
this
time,
but
I
will
say
that
this
is
a
case
of
the
safety
of
county
residents.
Your
constituents
versus
the
needs
of
an
out-of-state
developer
and
corporation,
the
neighbors
were
concerned
and
we
contacted
ncdot.
We've
been
trying
to
make
it
a
lot
of
noise
to
whoever
will
listen
to
how
unsafe
the
situation
is.
C
So
we
met
with
the
d.o.t
and
they
agreed
that
we
caught
their
mistake
and
they
have
revised
the
driveway
plan
to
allow
for
30
more
feet,
but
why?
Why
won't?
They
close
the
existing
construction
driveway
to
make
said
adjustment
there's
been
near,
misses
I've
almost
had
three
accidents
here
in
the
last
two
weeks.
C
C
C
C
If
you
look
at
the
jasper
apartments
that
are
being
built
right
next
door,
you
can
see
their
road,
they
have
at
least
a
hundred
foot
minimum
and
that's
a
flat
road.
Warren
wilson
is
flat.
It's
not
a
blind
curve,
roland
road.
If
you're
turning
right
into
the
neighborhood,
it
is
a
blind
curve.
You
cannot
see
and
30
extra
feet
is
not
going
to
keep
us
from
having
an
accident.
I
don't
know
why
our
safety
has
to
come
at
the
expense
of
what
the
dollar
general
wants.
C
You
know
and
then
also
when
we
press
the
ncdot
about.
Why
won't
you
close
the
driveway?
They
said
we're
not
going
to
do
it,
and
then
they
also
threatened
jenny
wilds
who
lives
across
from
the
site.
They
threatened
that
they
could
take
her
property
to
widen
the
road.
The
tractor
trailers
cannot
make
this
curve.
They
can't.
If
they
come
into
roland,
they
have
to
make
a
huge
wide
turn.
They
have
to
back
up
blocking
traffic.
I
was
almost
in
highway
70
with
my
kids
in
the
car.
C
You
know,
because
the
tractor
trailer
could
not
make
the
turn
into
the
side.
So
therefore
they
drive
through
the
whole
neighborhood
and
surrounding
roads
sherwood,
which
is
right
next
to
art
space.
They
drive
all
through
the
neighborhood
just
to
get
to
the
site,
because
they
cannot
make
a
right-hand
turn.
They
have
to
make
a
left-hand
turn,
so
they
have
to
go
through
the
whole
neighborhood
and
I'm
just
asking
you
guys
to
help
us.
Thank
you.
A
D
My
name
is
gabrielle
price.
Since
the
last
meeting,
when
I
voiced
my
concerns
about
the
safety
and
the
non-compliant
driveway
for
dollar
general
and
shared
my
story
of
almost
getting
hit
by
a
construction
truck,
a
few
more
problems
have
occurred.
Some
of
you've
heard
already.
The
power
lines
have
been
pulled
down
by
the
dollar
general
tractor
trailers
entering
the
site,
causing
the
traffic
lights
and
the
neighborhood
power
outages
in
the
middle
of
morning
school
and
work
traffic.
It
was
chaos.
D
Tractor
trailers
have
been
having
difficulty
entering
the
work
site,
shutting
down
roland
road
and
traffic
on
70,
trying
to
enter
causing
people
of
our
community
to
idle
on
70,
hoping
that
they
don't
get
rear-ended.
D
D
E
E
We
have
a
petition
with
12
1
200
signatures,
probably
upward
of
that
by
now
with
citizens
that
are
concerned,
not
so
much
about
dollar
general
being
stopped
or
it
is
a
as
a
business,
but
the
people
that
are
probably
going
to
be
injured
at
this
dangerous
intersection
and
the
other
ladies
have
spoken
pretty
clearly
about,
I
hope
you'll
be
able
to
come
out
and
see
if
you're
turning
off
highway
70
where
people
are
going.
You
know
40
50
miles
per
hour,
turning
right
into
a
store
with
a
six
foot
clearance
to
get
in.
E
There
is
just
incredibly
dangerous,
so
you
have
all
the
art
space
traffic.
You
have
a
hundred
homes
with
all
the
traffic
going
into
sherwood
forest.
You
have
all
the
people
from
actual
christian
academy
and
then
all
the
other
people
that
live
there.
So
it's
just
a
really
hazardous
situation
and
again
if
it
had
been
approved
or
it
was
within
the
like
confines
of
the
wall-
that's
one
thing,
but
it's
against
the
law.
You
know
there
needs
to
be
a
100
foot
clearance
and
it's
6.5
feet.
E
F
F
F
F
1890
the
timber
speculators
came
to
western
north
carolina
and
started
buying
up
oodles
and
oodles
of
land.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
they
bought
all
the
land.
That's
now
the
blue
ridge
parkway.
Why
did
they
buy
it?
They
buy,
bought
it
to
cut
the
trees
because
the
trees
were
needed,
so
in
1855
that
railroad
was
opened
up
to
one
anoa
and
then
in
1880.
F
Yes
at
13
cutting
trees,
and
I
see
some
of
you
looking
down,
not
hearing
what
I'm
saying,
because
you
don't
like
the
idea.
We
had
it
rough
in
this
area
and
if
it
hadn't
been
for
the
trees,
we
wouldn't
have
the
biltmore
state.
If
it
hadn't
been
for
the
trees,
we
wouldn't
have
what
we've
got
and
even
then
the
head
of
the
forestry
division,
the
guy
that
started
it
all.
Ching
says
this
listen
very
carefully,
and
I
love
this
sentence
because
it
shows
you
just
how
screwed
up
we
got
today.
F
The
cradle
of
forestry
is
america's
own
story
of
his
beloved
school.
It's
also
the
story
of
the
birth
of
forestry
conservation
in
america,
clashes
with
man
like
pinchot,
but
he
says
this
and
his
philosophy
is
still
true.
Today
the
forestry
is
best
which
pays
the
best.
So
if
you
don't
manage
it
for
money,
you're
making
a
big
mistake
and
you're
going
to
make
it
today,
you
watch
me
and
see
if
I
didn't
call
it
right
on
the
head
good
time.
G
G
G
Now
you
this
may
be
a
change
for
some
of
your
constituents,
but
they
can
handle
it
if
you've
ever
shopped
at
ingles.
I'm
sorry
if
you've
ever
shopped
at
aldi's
or
hopies
or
sam's.
You
know
people
figured
out
how
to
carry
the
groceries
out
of
the
store
into
the
car.
They
can
adjust
to
not
having
shopping
bags.
They'll
be
fine.
G
G
H
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
my
name
is
anna,
also
brooke.
I
live
in
black
mountain
and
I
work
with
mountain
true
in
the
french
broad
riverkeeper
program.
I
wanted
to
just
take
a
moment
to
alert
you
all
to
a
recent
story
featured
on
wlos
entitled.
Microplastic
pollution
is
widespread
throughout
the
waters
of
western
north
carolina.
H
H
Microfilms
are
the
result
of
degraded
packaging
like
plastic
bags
and
food
wrappers
plastic
production,
which
is
tied
to
the
oil
and
gas
industry,
is
increasing
at
alarming
rates.
The
biggest
growing
sector
of
plastic
production
is
actually
single-use
plastic.
It
makes
up
about
40
percent
of
the
plastic
production
market.
H
These
single-use
plastic
items
are
used
for
mere
minutes
before
being
thrown
away
for
decades.
We
have
been
trying
to
recycle
our
way
out
of
this
problem,
but
the
reality
is
that
only
eight
to
nine
percent
of
plastic
has
ever
been
recycled
when
it
is
recycled,
it's
typically
down
cycled,
meaning
it
turns
into
a
lesser
quality
product.
H
The
most
effective
way
to
mitigate
these
impacts
is
to
pass
an
ordinance
to
reduce
single-use
plastic
at
the
source.
I
urge
you,
commissioners,
to
lead
north
carolina
in
this.
We
are
decades
behind
where
we
need
to
be
on
this
issue.
The
problem
needs
to
be
addressed
now
and
buncombe
county
can
take
the
lead,
make
our
community
a
better
and
healthier
place
to
live
and
recreate
by
passing
an
ordinance
regulating
single-use
plastic.
Thank
you.
So
much.
I
No
problem,
it's
darlene
azami
good
evening
y'all,
I'm
here
to
just
make
a
brief
comment
on
behalf
of
the
women's
commission,
of
which
I'm
a
member
of,
and
if
I
have
enough
time,
I'd
like
to
seed
a
little
time
for
a
personal
comment
of
my
own.
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
update
that
on
the
buncombe
county,
women's
commission,
facebook
page
we've
highlighted
folks
who
identify
as
women
throughout
the
community
and
we've
just
been
spotlighting
them.
You
know
in
the
spirit
of
women's
history
month,
so
just
wanted
to
put
that
your
way
and
most
importantly,
I'm
here
this
evening
to
share
with
you
all
that
we
have
been
working
on
a
resolution
that
we
would
love
to
share
with
the
commission
and
would
love
for
you
to
support
I'm
doing
a
bit
of
an
open
invitation.
I
I
it's
so
short
that
I
probably
could
just
read
it
all
here
this
evening,
but
we'd
love
to
be
in
conversation
with
y'all,
and
actually,
I
believe
our
chair
libby
sent
you
an
invite
to
our
meeting.
We
are
having
a
small
in-person
meeting
that
you'd
be
welcome
to
join
via
zoom,
also
at
lenoir-rhyne
in
asheville
next
monday,
at
five
o'clock
p.m.
So
you
should
already
have
the
invite
from
libby
kyle's
our
chair,
but
regardless
we
can
send
it
back
out.
I
If
you
need
it,
it
it
just
to
let
you
know
it
is
it's
called
cedaw,
so
it's
the
counties
for
counties
on
the
elimination
of
all
forms
of
discrimination
against
women,
and
that
is
a
rift
off
of
the
cedaw
in
1979.
That
is
the
convention
for
the
elimination
of
all
forms
of
discrimination
against
women,
and
so
we
thought
what
a
better
time
for
the
county
to
step
up
and
support
women
in
our
county.
Specifically,
this
resolution
would
help
to
hopefully
address
the
wage
gap.
I
That
is
still
so
big
here
in
buncombe
county,
but
I
believe
I've
seen
figures
around
82
percent.
I
know
asheville
city
is
a
bit
better,
but
regardless
we're
taking
direction
from
durham,
which
also
which
actually
passed
this
ordinance
in
2017
unanimously
and
durham
actually
has
the
smallest
gender
wage
gap
in
the
state.
So
again,
we
really
hope
to
be
in
conversation
with
y'all
and
look
to
you
know
working
on
this
together.
I
So
outside
of
that,
I
will
break
there
and
say
I
am
darlene's
army
and
as
a
resident
of
swannanoa.
I
echo
the
concerns
that
folks
here
in
the
community
have
been
voicing
tonight.
I
do
hope
you
can
come
and
check
it
out.
I
know
that
some
folks
even
brought
their
families
in
tonight,
and
safety
is
a
concern
here.
So
I
just
want
to
echo
that
and
then
looks
like
I'm
up
on
time
here.
But
finally,
I
will
also
just
echo
the
ask
for
the
plastic
bag
ban.
I
I
lived
in
eugene
oregon
for
a
couple
of
years
and
the
city
of
asheville
is
looking
to
eugene,
which
is
similar
in
population
and
demographics,
looking
at
its
cahoots
model
for
mental
health.
So
I
encourage
you
all.
If
eugene
did
it,
we
can
do
it.
Let's
follow
the
outer
banks
and
blend,
or
at
least
restrict
single-use
plastics
in
buncombe
county
thank
y'all.
J
My
name
is
chris
everhart.
I
am
a
26
year
citizen
of
buncombe
county.
I
live
in
the
swan
right
in
the
middle
of
the
corridor
from
the
dollar
general
in
east
black
mountain,
the
dollar
general
on
highway,
70,
the
family
dollar
in
swannanoa,
the
family
dollar
in
oteen
and
the
dollar
tree
on
riceville
road.
I
live
in
the
middle
of
that
I
am
disappointed
I've.
I
voted
for
many
of
you,
but
I
don't
feel
like
you're
keeping
my
and
my
community's
interests
at
heart.
J
J
It's
disappointing
that,
after
dropping
that
this
is
what
we're
being
offered,
I'm
also
old
enough
to
remember
when
plastics
were
not
ubiquitous
and
we
used
a
lot
of
different
other
products
and
other
things
and
recyclables
and
biodegradables
and
I
survived,
and
I
think
people
of
other
generations
will
survive
too
and
we
can
do
a
plastic
span,
and
I
echo
a
lot
of
the
other
things
that
people
have
said
tonight.
Thank
you.
K
Hi
I'm
dr
phyllis
robertson.
I
live
on
110,
west
oakview
road
in
asheville,
and
you
know
it
seems
like
in
the
times
that
we're
in
right
now
and
what
we're
witnessing
in
the
world.
It
seems
kind
of
small
to
come
and
speak
about
what
we're
concerned
about
in
our
community.
K
But
I
think
also
we
need
to
speak
up
as
well
and
kind
of
look
out
for
a
community,
and
I
just
want
to
express
appreciation
to
bob
presley
and
also
to
parker
sloan
for
their
willingness
to
listen
to
the
community
out
in
the
macintosh
sardis
road
sandhill
area
and
recognizing
how
much
development
is
affecting
our
quality
of
life
there
and
how
the
traffic
congestion
just
continues,
and
I
just
want
to
remind
the
board
and
also
the
public
I
see
imagine
school
is
now
the
second
largest
school
in
buncombe
county
at
1230
students.
K
K
I'm
repeating
myself,
it's
not
set
for
whiting
until
2025,
and
that's
only
when
right-of-ways
are
going
to
be.
Soft
construction
won't
happen
for
years
later,
so
we
continue
to
pour
more
and
more
traffic
into
roads
that
can't
handle
the
infrastructure
cannot
handle
it.
So
I
again
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
your
willingness
to
hear
us
and
we
welcome
you
out
into
our
community
anytime.
A
All
right,
anyone
else
all
right,
appreciate
everyone
taking
time
to
come
out
and
speak
to
the
board,
about
your
about
the
issues
and
concerns
that
were
brought
up
in
the
meeting.
Okay,
all
right,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
A
We've
got
a
couple
of
presentations
and
the
first
one
is
a
proclamation
recognizing
buncombe
county
agriculture
awareness
day
and
commissioner
terry
wells
is
going
to
present
this
item
and
jackie
gillespie
from
the
buncombe
county.
Women
of
farm
bureau
is
here
to
help
us
out
with
us,
thanks
for
being
here,
jackie.
L
And
whereas
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
understand
the
important
role.
Buncombe
county
farmers
and
agriculture
contribute
to
maintaining
a
strong
economic
base
in
buckham
county
and
whereas
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
recognize
that
buncombe
county
farmers
produce
safe,
affordable
and
abundant
food
and
fiber
products
that
are
used
and
consumed
by
buncombe
county
citizens
every
day
and
whereas
the
buncombe
county
commissioners
desire
to
recognize
the
vital
role
of
agriculture
to
express
their
appreciation
of
agriculture's
significance
to
buncombe
county.
Now.
L
M
M
M
The
other
thing-
and
I
kind
of
stole
this
idea,
but
we
have
a
jar
we'd
like
to
present
to
you
of
dirt
and
again,
like
I
said,
I
kind
of
stole
the
idea.
But
what
is
unique
about
this?
M
There
is
a
program
in
beckham,
county
or
in
north
carolina
called
century
farms,
and
it
was
started
in
1970
and
it
was
to
highlight
farms
that
had
been
in
a
family
or
owned
by
a
family
and
farmed
for
a
hundred
years
or
more
so
in
trying
to
come
up
with
an
idea
of
whose
dirt
to
put
in
there.
I
thought
about
the
century
farm
program,
so
there's
21
farms
in
beckham
county.
We
were
able
to
obtain
soil
samples
from
18
of
those
farms
and
there
is
a
sample
from
each
one
that
we
got
in
there.
M
M
We'd,
also
like
to
ask
that,
maybe
because
ag
awareness
day
happens
about
the
same
time
every
year,
and
so
one
of
our
missions
this
year
is
to
research
farms
in
the
county
that
maybe
aren't
in
this
program
that
we
can
help
get
there,
because
I
know
there
are
others.
I
know
my
husband's
farm
is
eligible
and
the
farm
where
I
grew
up
will
be
eligible
next
year,
so
I
know
there's
other
farms
out
there.
So
we'd
like
to
you
know,
come
back
about
this
time.
A
N
And
whereas
american
women
of
every
race,
class
and
ethnic
background
have
made
historic
contributions
to
our
nation
and
community
in
countless
ways
recorded
and
unrecorded
ways.
And
whereas
buncombe
county
is
committed
to
creating
an
inclusive
community
that
celebrates
diversity
and
ensures
all
residents
have
equitable
opportunities
to
lead
healthy,
peaceful,
safe
and
sustainable
lives.
And
whereas
whether
serving
in
elected
positions
across
america,
leading
groundbreaking
civil
rights
movements,
venturing
into
unknown
frontiers
or
programming,
revolutionary
technologies,
generations
of
women
that
knew
their
gender
was
no
obstacle
to
what
they
could
accomplish.
N
And
whereas,
despite
these
contributions,
the
role
of
women
in
american
history
has
often
been
overlooked
and
undervalued
in
literature,
education
and
culture.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that
on
this
15th
day
of
march
2022,
the
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners
here
brought
proclaim
march.
2022.
Is
women's
history
month
a
time
to
celebrate
the
important
contributions
that
women
have
made
to
our
families.
Our
response
to
the
pandemic,
our
community,
our
state
and
our
nation,
signed
by
brownie
newman
chairman
of
the
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners.
It's
my
pleasure
to
present
this
to
you
this
evening.
Rachel.
O
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
able
to
to
receive
this
on
behalf
of
the
county
and
to
have
this
as
a
tangible
first
step
of
many
many
steps
to
come
building
on
all
of
the
work
that
women
and
femmes
and
female-identified
individuals
have
done
to
support
both
buncombe
county
and
our
country
in
every
industry
imaginable,
from
agriculture
to
engineering
homemaking
to
hospital
workers,
everything
in
between
and
most
importantly,
everything
beyond.
So
it
is
a
pleasure
to
be
able
to
to
have
this
and
to
proclaim
march
2022
as
women's
history
month.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
last
item
under
presentations
is
a
presentation
from
don
warren.
Our
finance
director
on
the
physical
year
ending
2021
audit
presentation.
P
Good
evening,
good
evening,
everybody
I'm
not
actually
presenting
chris
from
cla
will
be
presenting
virtually
to
you
all.
The
audit
is
complete.
I'm
happy,
we've
got
our
opinions.
We've
got
all
the
stuff
filed
with
lgc.
So
now
chris
needs
to
do
the
last
formality,
which
is
to
present
it
to
y'all.
So
I'll
turn
it
over
to
him.
Q
Great
great
good
evening,
chairman
county
commissioners,
thank
you
don
nice
to
see
everyone
virtually.
I
just
wanna
say
first
of
all,
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
accommodating
me
by
letting
me
do
this.
Virtually
for
my
scheduling
conflicts.
I'm
to
share
my
screen
here.
Q
Host
has
disabled
participant
screen
sharing,
looks
like
we're
fixing.
F
Q
There
we
go
okay,
perfect,
my
apologies,
okay,
all
right.
So
what
I
want
to
talk
through
is
the
june
30
2021
financial
statement,
audit
and
one
thing
that
changed
this
year.
From
years
past
don
had
mentioned
that
everything
has
been
filed
with
the
lgc
as
required,
and
this
is
just
a
formality.
Q
There
is
a
new
requirement
that
the
auditor
has
to
present
the
results
of
the
financial
statements
within
45
days
of
issuing
the
report.
So
you
know
that's
never
been
a
problem
in
the
past,
but
it
does
require
a
little
bit
of
additional
turnaround
time
to
make
sure
that
we'll
get
this
presentation
as
a
result
of
the
audit
conclusion
so
walking
through
my
slides
here,
just
a
quick
background
about
cla.
Just
again,
I'm
chris
kessler
principal
with
cla.
Q
I
lead
our
government
services
practice
in
the
carolinas
georgia
and
florida.
We
are
the
eighth
largest
public
accounting
firm
in
the
country
and
myself
and
the
team
that
work
on
the
county's
audit
year
after
year
are
100
focused
on
serving
states
and
local
governments
like
yourselves.
Q
So
the
audit
services
we've
performed
are
the
same
as
they've
been
in
years.
Past.
They've
done
no
changes
to
our
scope
or
to
the
requirements
under
auditing
standards,
but
what
I'm
discussing
with
you
today
is
the
audit
of
the
financial
statements,
the
annual
comprehensive
financial
report,
the
acfer
the
acronyms
changed
from
last
year.
Just
just
be
aware
of
that
change.
It
is
now
back
for
going
forward,
as
opposed
to
previously
comprehensive
annual
financial
reports.
Q
Our
audit
was
performed
in
accordance
with
government
auditing
standards,
and
we
also
audit
the
federal
and
the
state
compliance
also
known
as
your
single
audit,
and
what
this
means
is.
You
will
receive
a
lot
of
grant
funds
from
federal
and
state
sources
and
what
you
spend
in
a
given
year
has
to
be
audited
to
ensure
that
the
county
spent
those
funds
in
a
correct
and
accurate
manner
in
accordance
with
those
programs.
Q
So
the
reports
that
we've
delivered
the
first
is
your
independent
auditor's
report
that
that's
our
audit
opinion
and
that
goes
in
your
financial
statements.
Then
there
is
the
report
on
internal
control
over
financial
reporting
and
compliance,
which
is
also
known
as
the
reported
internal
controls.
This
would
be
a
report
on
controls
related
to
financial
reporting
of
the
financial
statements.
Then
there
is
the
independent
auditor's
report
on
compliance
for
each
major,
federal
and
state
program.
Q
Q
Q
It
didn't
impact
our
opinion,
but
that
is
one
thing
that
will
look
different
between
year
to
year,
but
it
really
is
just
saying
the
county
implemented
this,
and
there
were
no
issues
in
that
implementation
and
drawn
attention
to
the
footnotes
where
that
information
is
included,
our
auditor's
opinion
on
compliance,
so
the
single
audit
report
was
unmodified
as
well,
so
clean
opinion,
the
scope
and
the
timing
of
the
audit
proceeded
as
planned.
We
had
no
changes
into
our
procedures.
Q
We
had
no
material
audit
adjustments.
There
were
two
note
notation
items
here
of
uncorrectedness
statements,
but
uncorrected
misstatement.
This
means
that
they
are
items
that
we
noted
in
the
audit
that
weren't
material,
but
they
were
above
a
threshold
that
was
larger
than
clearly
trivial
and
we
present
those
to
management,
give
them
the
option
of
passing
or
correcting.
We
just
have
to
communicate
those
within
our
governance
letter
as
those
exist.
Q
Q
Bullet
here
you
know
management
as,
as
always
was
cooperative
and
helpful
and
professional.
During
the
audit,
it
was
a
pleasure
to
work
with
the
county
as
it
is
every
year,
but
you
know
everyone
this
year
as
in
years
past
and
did
a
great
job
in
getting
us
the
information
we
needed.
We
always
asked
for
a
lot
of
information
and
everybody
at
county
management
did
an
excellent
job
of
being
responsive
and
helpful
to
get
us
through
the
audit
and
get
this
thing
wrapped
up.
So
we're
appreciative.
Q
You
know
of
the
whole
team
and
everybody
who
played
a
part
of
that,
so
the
2021
impact
just
to
kind
of
quickly
look
at
it.
You
know
we
talked
last
year
about
some
of
the
delays
of
omb
federal
office
management
budget.
That
dictates
the
rules.
We
have
to
audit
the
federal
grants
under
they
were
delayed
in
the
issue
in
their
initial
compliance
supplement,
and
then
they
had
amended
it
twice,
which
is
why
I'm
coming
to
you
in
march
with
this
report,
as
opposed
to
much
earlier
after
fiscal
year,.
R
Q
As
we
all
would
have
preferred,
I
will
tell
you
our
firm's
position:
whenever
there
are
compliance,
supplement,
updates
and
things
pending,
we
will
wait.
We
will
be
conservative
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
have
to
pull
previously
issued
financial
statements
and
single
audit
reports,
our
opinions
and
re-audit.
It's
both
from
a
risk
standpoint,
as
well
as
for
a
time
and
cost
standpoint
for
all
parties
involved,
but
once
omb
issued
their
second
amendment
and
said
no
one
is
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
issue
anything
we
are
done
for
2021.
Q
Q
Federal
grant
programs
that
are
pandemic
related,
they
are
going
to
continue
to
be
high
risk,
meaning
your
current
virus
relief
funds,
your
emergency
rental
assistance,
your
state
and
local
government
recovery
funds
out
of
arba
are
going
to
be
high
risk
until
they
are
fully
depleted
or
those
programs
expire.
So
we
will
be
auditing
those
every
year
going
forward
and
then,
of
course,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there
was
a
new
accounting
standard
that
went
into
place
from
your.
R
Q
Q
The
county
had
to
analyze
the
purpose
of
those
funds
to
determine
if
they
were
truly
fiduciary.
Everything
went
very
smoothly.
The
county
did
a
great
job
of
implementing
this.
It
was
a
lot
of
leg
work
for
county
staff
to
do
this
as
with
any
new
accounting
standard,
but
everything
was
clean
and
the
financial
statements
reflected
this
appropriately
from
an
audit
approach
summary.
You
know
this
doesn't
change
too
much
from
year
to
year.
There
are
certain
things
that
we'll
add
or
take
away
depending
on.
Q
You
know
what
is
happening,
but
the
first
thing
we
always
are
concerned
about
is
management,
override
of
internal
controls.
We
look
at
internal
controls
deeply
every
single
year
and
make
sure
that
those
controls
are
still
in
place
still
effective,
still
designed
well
in
the
key
areas
of
financial
and
compliance
reporting.
Q
Additionally,
this
year
we
have
the
major
pandemic-related
funds
that
we
had
to
dive
into,
not
only
from
a
compliance
standpoint,
but
to
make
sure
that
the
revenues
and
any
related
balance
sheet
impacted.
Those
items
was
reflected
appropriately
in
the
financial
statement.
So
we
took
a
deep
dive
into
that
and
then
the
last
bullet.
Here
we
always
look
proud
of
your
findings
to
make
sure
that
they
were
addressed
and
if
they
were
not
addressed,
we
have
to
adjust
our
our
risk
and
our
auto
procedures.
Q
So,
in
regards
to
findings
this
year
financial
statement
findings,
we
had
none.
It
was
a
clean.
You
know,
as
I
said,
no
material
audit
adjustments,
so
no
findings
or
anything
along
those
lines,
as
in
any
year,
there's
recommendations
and
some
minor
things
that
we
talked
through
management
during
the
course
of
our
audit.
But
if
anything
that
was
of
concern,
we
would
have
put
it
in
writing
and
been
presenting
it
to
you.
Q
Now,
it's
more
best
practice
and
just
some
minor
things,
just
as
a
nature
of
an
audit
for
a
county,
this
size,
single
audit
results.
These
are
just
the
programs
that
we've
tested
so
you'll
see
some
familiar
programs
that
you've
had
for
years
that
are
just
due
for
rotation,
as
well
as
some
others,
such
as
the
current
virus
release
fund
and
the
emergency
rental
assistance
pandemic,
related
that
we
will
be
testing
every
year
going
forward.
Q
Q
So
with
that
said,
then
you
know
a
little
perspective
as
to
where
the
county
has
gotten
to
from
when
we
took
over
as
auditors
in
2018
to
where
we
are
in
2021,
with
with
no
reportable
fine
dates.
This
is
a
you
know.
From
a
board
perspective,
this
is
very
important
as
a
assessment
of
the
not
just
the
audit
process,
but
just
general
financial
management
and
what
management.
R
Q
The
county
has
focused
on
over
the
past
few
years,
and
I
know
we've
talked
about
that
in
years
past.
You
know
and
that's
not
a
result
of
us
changing
our
auto
procedures
or
taking
our
foot
off
the
gas
and
what
we
do.
We
are
not
a
firm
and
I
am
not
a
principal
that
will
you
know
I
would
say,
live
in
a
gray
area
or
have
you
know,
wiggle
room
on
certain
things
with
findings,
it's
typically
black
and
white.
It's
either.
You
know
it's
either.
R
Q
Q
To
get
to
this
point
where
we
are
now
and
just
some
brief
highlights,
I
won't
go
through
all
these
numbers
they're
in
the
financial
statements,
but
if
there's
one
section
that
I'll
point
to
in
the
financials
you'll
really
look
at
and
get
that
context,
it's
the
management's
discussion
and
analysis
of
pages
7
through
17..
Q
This
is
the
this
is
the
context
of
what
happened
during
the
year.
It
compares
21
activity
to
22
act
or
21
activity
to
20
activity,
with
with
the
explanation
with
the
why
certain
things
transacted
the
way
they
did
or
what
some
of
the
trends
were
between
the
years
to
give
you
that
full
perspective
from
here
to
you.
Q
Q
The
bigger
impact
is
on
county
management
and
the
level
of
effort
and
work
it's
going
to
have
to
go
into
it
during
the
year
to
implement
these
everything
is
in
process,
and
I
know
don
and
his
team
have
a
good
handle
on
things,
but
I
just
want
you
all
to
know
it
is
a
big
lift.
Q
It
is
going
to
be
additional
time
for
everyone,
not
just
in
the
year
of
implementation,
but
going
forward
as
well,
because
it
is
going
to
be
a
you
know,
it's
a
big
ask
and
a
lift,
and
somebody
has
to
be
updated.
Every
single
year
track
these
contracts
and
these
leases
they
need
to
get
recorded
into
the
financial
statements.
Q
The
second
bullet
information
technology
security,
just
given
where
we
are,
and
what's
going
on
in
the
world
right
now,
we
are
seeing
a
significant
uptick
of
attacks
on
local
governments
just
to
keep
everyone
diligent
at
all
levels
and
all
departments
within
the
county
is
just
going
to
be
critical,
going
forward
to
ensure
that
there's
not
a
gap
within
either.
You
know
the
human
factor
of
folks
falling
for
phishing
attempts
or
any
sort
of
you
know
just
potential
security.
Q
Faux
pas
as
you
move
through,
so
just
remaining
diligent,
is
really
the
key
with
what
we're
seeing
in
our
clients,
both
in
north
carolina
and
elsewhere,
and
then
the
last
bullet
just
making
sure
that
there's
a
continual
focus
on
compliance
related
to
these
pandemic
funds.
The
treasury
has
issued
their
final
rule
back
in
january.
Q
It
really
points
where
these
arpa
funds
can
be
used
in
the
state
and
local
government
recovery
funds.
It's
it's
complicated,
it's
convoluted
and
documentation
is
really
key
for
every
single
trumps
or
funds
that
you
all
come
up
with.
To
be
able
to
say
is
this
public
health?
What
public
health
purpose
is
it?
Is
it
capital
expenditures
or
what's
our
justification,
maybe
they've
enumerated
a
lot
of
different
projects
and
things
that
these
funds
can
be
used
for?
Q
In
that
final
rule,
really,
the
key
is
is
just
making
sure
every
decision
you
all
make
to
spend
these
funds
make
sure
it's
documented
as
to
what
enumerated
purpose
or
whatever
justification
may
exist
to
use
it.
The
treasury
is
going
to
be
looking
at
it.
Auditors
are
going
to
be
looking
at
it
folks
going
to
be
coming
in
after
the
external
audits
and
looking
at
it
from
an
ig
standpoint,
just
having.
R
Q
All
documented
is
really
going
to
be
critical
for
the
county
standpoint
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
trip
ups
in
the
future
with
that
and
with
that
said
that
that's
really
the
end
of
my
prepared
comments.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
to
don
and
to
terry
and
the
rest
of
the
county
finance
team
for
all
the
help
that
they
provide
us
day
in
and
day
out
and
getting
the
audit
done
and
everybody
in
the
county
that
helps
with
this
process.
A
All
right
thanks
chris
don
anything
else,
you'd
add.
P
No,
I
would
just
say
that
it
was
a
successful
year.
We
had
to
wait
quite
a
bit
for
the
omb
information,
but
ultimately
we
got
everything
done
so
very
happy
with
the
way
everything
turned
out.
I'm
very
pleased
to
see
the
the
progress
that
we've
made
since
I
came
in
at
the
end
of
2018
and
and
where
we
are
now,
staff
has
done
a
tremendous
job.
We
are
staying
on
top
of
all
the
gatsby
pronouncements
to
make
sure
we're
getting
things
implemented
and
and
set
up
appropriately.
So
I'm
very
pleased.
A
All
right,
great
commissioners,
any
questions
or
comments.
T
You
know
this
is
what
our
sixth
year,
robert
on
the
audit
committee,
and
this
is
probably
the
smoothest
we've
had
and
we've
gotten
to
this
point.
Thanks
to
the
employees,
and
especially,
I
can't
say
enough
about
kelly,
even
though
she's
changed
jobs,
but
she's
hung
in
there
with
us
and
did
it
and
even
in
making
the
transition
with
dan
to
dan.
T
It's
been
smooth
and
he
was
there
this
morning
in
the
meeting,
and
it
was
the
smoothest
we've
had
since
I've
been
around,
and
hopefully
we
will
continue
to
go,
but
thank
you
don
and
all
the
employees,
terry,
all
of
you
who
made
this
possible
because
I'm
I'm
wondering
sometimes
when
we
hired
you
and
18.
If
you
have
a
second-guess
it,
don't.
U
Yeah,
I'm
going
to
echo
that
of
what
kelly's
done
over
the
last
couple
years
of
doing
it,
but
a
big,
oh
handshake,
to
you
don
for
what
you've
done
and
how
you're
working
with
dan
so
close.
Right
now
and
terry,
that
I
mean
that's,
probably
one
of
the
closest
net
staff
that
works
together
and
we're
seeing
the
results
right
now.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
thanks
don
and
thanks
chris
for
the
presentation
appreciate,
appreciate
it
very
much.
Thank
you
all
right.
Commissioners.
Next
up
under
public
hearings
is
consideration
of
local
physical
recovery
funding.
Economic
development
for
mountain
community
capital
fund
and
tim
love
is
going
to
get
us
started,
and
I
see
matt
raker
from
mountain
biz
works
here
as
well.
Thanks
for
both
both
you
for
being
here.
V
Great
good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners,
as
the
chair
said,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
mountain
community
capital
fund
and
arpa
appropriation
related
to
that.
We
have
a
presentation
that
we'll
walk
through
today.
Matt
raker
is
here
with
me
to
answer
any
specific
questions
about
the
program,
but
I'll
sort
of
guide
us
through
the
general
changes.
V
V
The
original
application
for
this
program
was
submitted
by
mountain
biz
works
on
behalf
of
the
mccf
and
as
a
reminder
for
those
that
are
unfamiliar.
That
mccf
is
a
joint
program
of
the
county,
the
city
of
asheville
and
cdfis,
which
are
community
development,
financial
institutions,
of
which
there
are
three
that
we
work
with
closely
mountain
biz
works,
self-help
and
carolina
small
business.
V
V
The
treasury
guidance
says
that
any
expenditures
of
arpa
funds
has
to
occur
by
december
31st
of
2026,
based
on
the
way
these
loans
are
structured.
We
would
not
see
that
occur,
as
I
said,
with
the
loan
guarantee.
V
Due
to
the
changes,
there
is
a
requirement
for
a
public
hearing,
as
stated,
and
that
would
be
the
purpose
of
today
and
then
a
crucial
point.
No
additional
funds
are
being
requested
for
this
program.
It's
the
same
original
allocation,
no
change
to
that.
V
So
that
was
our
issue
our
current
program.
Here's
a
summary
of
it
and
we'll
do
a
comparison
slide
here
in
a
second
to
see
where
all
the
changes
are
still
a
small
business
lending
program.
A
goal
is
to
create
jobs
by
lending
to
small
businesses
that
lack
sufficient
credit
or
collateral
to
access
capital
needed
to
retain
and
create
jobs.
V
The
funding
for
the
program
is
1.5
or
1.15
million
dollars
that
will
be
used
for
direct
loans
to
businesses,
with
an
additional
100k
for
admin
expenses.
The
results
90
businesses
are
expected
to
receive
loans
which
will
create
or
retain
320
jobs.
Additional
note
the
way
this
program
is
structured.
We
are
able
to
maintain
the
loan
guarantee
asset,
which
is
also
a
good
thing.
So
key
changes
here
that
we'll
talk
about
on
our
next
slide,
we're
moving
away
from
a
loan
guarantee
program
to
a
direct
loan
program.
V
A
loan
guarantee
program
is
still
great
but
does
not
meet
the
guidance
because
of
the
need
to
expend
funds
by
that
december
31
2026
date,
summary
of
key
changes
on
the
left.
We've
got
key
components
of
the
program,
then
we
show
you
how
it
was
originally
proposed
when
this
was
applied
for
and
then
we
show
you
our
latest
on
the
far
right.
So
this
is
our
proposed
program
program
manager
in
the
original
application
with
self-help.
Here,
we're
proposing
that
it
be
mountain
bis
works.
V
V
So
that
brings
us
to
our
request
for
board
action.
The
request
before
the
board
is
to
conduct
the
public
hearing
and
then
ultimately
approve
the
resolution,
but
we're
here
to
take
any
questions
you
may
have.
I
can
talk
about
logistics.
Matt
is
also
here
to
talk
about
any
specific
questions
about
the
loan
program
and
the
guarantee.
A
A
Okay,
great
all
right:
let's
open
the
public
hearing
on
consideration
of
this
economic
development
project
at
6,
16
p.m.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak
during
the
public
hearing?
Mr
yelton.
F
F
Seventy
percent
of
the
funding
went
to
administration
and
30
went
to
where
it
was
supposed
to
go.
So
I
would
like
to
see
that
I'm
not
saying
anybody's
doing
anything
wrong.
I'm
just
saying
if
you
want
to
get
money
from
us
again
as
citizens,
you
tell
us
what
you're
going
to
do
with
it
and
you
report
how
well
you
did
it's
very
easy
to
put
that
in.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
A
Commissioners,
further
discussion,
so
I
think
it's
a
great
point
about
tracking
how
this
community
loan
fund
performs
tim.
Would
you
like
to
share
any
thoughts
on
plans
around
how
we're
gonna
track
this
and
see
how
well
it's
performing
and
the
percentage
of
loans
that
are
successfully
repaid
on
time,
etc?
Absolutely.
V
So
two
points
that
I'd
like
to
hit
here.
First,
this
is
an
arpa
allocation
because
of
that
we
establish
contractual
agreements
with
each
of
our
grantors,
which
have
specific
deadlines
for
reporting
that
actually
go
to
treasury,
and
so
we
post
all
of
those
initial
reports
on
our
arpa
website,
the
buncombe
arpa
website
and
we've
actually
already
posted
our
fy21
report
out
there,
just
as
a
note,
but
we'll
continue
to
do
that.
V
A
I
do
have
kind
of
one
other
arpa,
this
related
question
on
this,
so
there
are
time
frames
that
need
to
be
met
to
deploy
the
funds
right.
They
can't
just
sit
around
for
years
and
years.
They
need
to
be
deployed
to
be
invested.
But
of
course
these
are.
These
are
loans
not
grants,
so
the
expectation
is
they'll
be
repaid
back.
A
A
So
they
need
to
be
deployed
in
a
certain
period
of
time,
but
then
we
do
expect
this
to
be
sort
of
an
enduring
more
of
like
an
enduring
revolving
type
fund
over
time.
So
I
guess
my
question
is
as
long
as
they're
deployed
in
a
timely
manner.
V
T
T
S
Yes,
the
borrowers
do
pay
back
with
with
interest
just
like
a
regular
loan
agreement
and
it
that
it's
based
on
the
kind
of
prevailing
terms
of
whichever
cdfi
is
the
one
that
is
providing
the
loans
in
this
case.
All
of
these
will
as
because
we're
doing
them
direct
now,
they'll
all
be
through
mountain
biz
works.
But
then
you
know
beyond
that.
Continuing
to
leverage
the
mountain
community
capital
fund
will
be
from
the
three
participating
cdfis.
What's.
S
T
S
S
U
I
don't
know
who
can
answer
this,
but
I'm
looking
back
at
like
our
three
o'clock
now
there's
a
hundred
thousand
of
it
will
be
used
for
administration
costs
right.
So
that
leaves
one
point
one
five.
So
that's.
V
L
A
Further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right,
matt,
thanks
for
being
here
tim
thanks
for
the
updates
appreciate
it
keep
us
posted
all
right.
The
next
item
under
agenda
is
under
new
business,
and
this
is
a
resolution
authorizing
execution
of
objection
to
the
revised
nantahala
and
pisco
forest
plan,
final
environmental
impact
statement
and
draft
record
of
decision.
A
So
at
our
last
commission
meeting,
we
heard
a
presentation
from
friends
of
big
ivy
talking
about
updates
to
the
nato
halo
pisgah
forest
plan,
this
long
planning
process
for
the
two
national
forests
located
in
western
north
carolina
at
our
previous
meeting.
We
also
heard
an
update
from
representatives
from
the
forest
service
about
that
same
topic.
A
So,
based
on
the
discussion
at
the
last
meeting,
the
commission
expressed
support
for
submitting
some
comments
and
technically
it's
a
formal
objection
to
some
aspects
of
the
force
plan
to
be
aligned
with
the
previous
two
resolutions
that
the
commission's
already
voted
on.
A
Basically
expressing
support
for
protection
of
the
big
iv
area,
which
is
one
of
the
two
main
areas
of
the
pisgah
national
forest.
That's
actually
located
in
buncombe
county,
and
we
heard
about
how
a
lot
of
different
counties
across
western
north
carolina
are
submitting
submitting
comments
to
the
forest
service
regarding
their
perspective
on
management
of
these
public
lands
within
their
counties,
so
buncombe
county.
If
we
do,
this
would
be
doing
that,
but
certainly
many
other
counties
are
doing
something
similar
to
be
responsive
to
what
they
see
as
the
important
issues.
A
A
You
know
my
review
of
them,
and
you
know
is
that
they're?
Basically,
a
kind
of
a
reiteration
of
the
commission's
previous
position
on
protection
of
craggy
mountain
area
and
big
iv
and
support
for
protection
of
that
area
is
primarily
under
the
national
scenic
area,
designation,
which
provides
a
lot
of
protection,
but
also
a
lot
more
flexibility
than
a
formal
wilderness
designation,
so
that
folks
in
the
community
and
visitors,
can
continue
to
enjoy
all
the
different
kinds
of
outdoor
recreation
that
are
popular
in
that
area.
A
Although
the
the
small
wilderness
study
area
right
up
at
the
top
of
craggy
wood
be
managed
as
wilderness
and
hopefully
would
be
eventually
supported
by
congress
for
that
that
designation,
but
that's
a
decision
for
congress
to
make
not
not
made
here
locally
by
the
forest
service.
So
anyway,
that's
the
issue
before
us.
So
if
we
are
going
to
file
these
comments
and
objection,
we
should
do
it
tonight,
because
the
public
comment
period
is
going
to
is
going
to
close
soon.
A
So
will
thanks
for
being
with
us
again,
do
we
miss
anything
big
or
anything
else?
You
would.
You
would
add.
Okay,
great
well,
commissioners,
any
any
further
discussion
on
this
item.
U
Yes,
we
was
able
today
to
talk
and
hear
a
different
view
than
what
we
had
heard
last
week,
and
I
mean
it
was
only
a
30
minute
conversation.
We
had
to
get
everyone
into
it
where
we
didn't
have
too
many
commissioners
at
a
time
it
was
just
myself
and
al,
and
I
think
we
heard
some
things
that
kind
of
contradicted
some
of
the
other
things
and
with
national
forests.
U
A
Unfortunately,
I
think
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
submit
the
comments
during
the
formal
period,
that's
opened
and
closed
it.
Actually,
this
would
be
the
last
meeting
where
we
can
do
that.
I
think
the
next
meeting
would
actually
be
after
that
time
frame.
Am
I
right
about
that?
Will
yeah,
so,
unfortunately,
this
would
be
the
time
we
have
to
to.
U
T
W
I'll
I
also
found
today's
meeting.
I
was
in
a
different
meeting
very
helpful.
You
know
I
mean
I
think,
the
more
we
dig
into
this
process,
the
more
we're
understanding
and
it
didn't
lessen
my
my
interest
in
voting
for
this,
but
I
do
think
that
that
dialogue
is
important
as
we
move
forward
and-
and
this
also
just
feels
like
the
sort
of
formal
lever
to
pull,
to
register
kind
of
the
the
strength
of
community
concern
that
exists
about
making
sure
we're
preserving
this.
W
X
X
Fork
yeah
yeah
on
both
sides
of
that
that
highway
there
and
just
I
think
it's
the
some
of
the
most
beautiful
well
protected
land
we
have
and
some
of
our
strongest
assets,
and
I
think
of
this
area
not
in
a
two
dissimilar
way,
and
I
just
think
we
should
do
everything
we
can
to
protect
it
and
prevent
development
and
logging
and
and
any
other
sort
of
of
of
damage
or
or
involvement
in
in
this
wilderness
area
and
yeah.
I
just
can't,
I
just
can't
think
of
a
reason
not
to
I.
X
I
want
to
have
a
good
relationship
with
the
forest
service.
Of
course,
I'm
sure
they
want
flexibility
at
a
minimum,
but
I
just
think
all
the
other
concerns
and
and
goals
that
this
supports
is
more
important
than
that
so
very
much
in
favor,
and
I
would
if
I
could
make
that
in
a
motion
I'll
I'll
make
a
motion
to
to
approve
the
resolution
and
submit
it.
U
And
I'd
also
like
to
say
I
I
understand
that,
and
I
think
I
see
where
it
is,
and
al
brought
up,
the
most
important
thing
is
they're
going
to
come
back
or
come
out
to
everyone
of
any
project
that
they
come
forward
with.
So
we're
not
saying
that
we
agree
or
disagree
right
now,
we're
just
saying
this
is
our
thoughts
and
whenever
they
decide
what
they're
going
to
do,
then
they're
going
to
make
a
decision
and
bring
it
back
again,
which
we
got
very
little
scan
in
this
game.
A
No,
I
don't
you
know
it's
a
it's.
A
federal
agency
right.
The
forest
service
is
a
federal
agency.
So,
but
you
know
I've
spent
some
time
working
on
these
issues
in
the
past
in
previous
work,
and
I
actually
think
that
the
voice
that
counties
have
is
actually
pretty
significant.
A
I
would
actually
say,
I
think,
the
forest
service,
I
think
the
forest
service
listens
to
everybody
and
they've
got
a
hard
job,
because
there's
many
different
perspectives,
there's
a
lot
of
different
competing
ideas
and
demands
on
our
national
forests
and,
more
than
ever,
you
know,
I
mean
it's
a
million
acres
between
pisgah
and
nanahala,
but
with
all
the
growth
and
visitation
to
our
area.
These
are
very,
very
heavily
utilized
public
lands
in
a
variety
of
ways,
and
but
I
think
that
I,
my
observation,
is
that
the
forest
service
actually
does
put
a
lot
of
weight.
A
As
the
small
towns
around
the
region,
who
sometimes
will
weigh
in
so,
I
actually
think
our
voices
is
is
relevant
to
the
discussion
and
I
think
they'll
listen
to
it.
It's
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
their
their
agency
is
responsible
for
making
the
decision,
but
I
think
the
lesson
that's
part
of
the
process.
U
N
I
think
we
have
an
onus,
though,
as
county
commissioners,
to
not
only
listen
to
what
our
constituents
are
are
sharing
with
us,
but
also
to
protect
the
land
that
we
are
responsible
for
overseeing
in
our
own
right,
and
this
is
an
incredible
opportunity
that
we
have
to
say
this
is
important
to
buncombe
county.
This
is
important
to
the
future
of
buncombe
county
of
conservation
of
even
recreation,
and
it's
partially,
why
I'm
supporting
it?
A
All
right
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
I
any
opposed
all
right
will,
thanks
to
you
and
every
all
that
thanks.
We
really
appreciate
all
of
the
folks
in
the
community
who
worked
really
hard
on
this,
been
to
a
million
meetings.
Stay
engaged.
So
thanks
for
your
work
and
keep
us
posted
good
luck,
all
right
all
right.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
consideration
of
recommendations
for
affordable
housing
goals
in
buncombe
county
from
the
affordable
housing
committee.
A
Briefing
meeting
today
as
well,
so
we
have
just
a
couple
of
slides
that
the
committee
working
with
the
staff
have
put
together
to
summarize
the
recommendations
from
the
affordable
housing
subcommittee.
So
we'll
just
take
a
moment
and
just
walk
through
those
real
quickly
and
can
we
put
those
up
on
the
screen?
Please.
R
A
You
know,
I
mean
we
sort
of
started
off
just
sort
of
talking
about
like
hey,
you
know
what
are
other
cities
and
counties
across
the
state
doing
looking
at
kind
of
benchmarking
what
their
strategies
are,
because,
although
we've
got
an
especially
bad
case
of
it,
you
know
cities
across
the
country
are
struggling
with
affordable
housing.
As
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
are
moving
to
it's
great
to
be
a
popular
city.
A
You
know
you
don't
want
to
be
the
alternative,
but
one
of
the
challenges,
one
of
the
big
challenges
that
go
with
being
a
popular
place
for
people
to
move
to
is
that
it
puts
a
lot
of
pressure
on
your
housing
market.
So
this
is
probably
one
of
the
few
issues
in
our
community
that
there's
not
much
debate
about
whether
we
have
a
big
challenge
around.
It's
really
a
question
of
what
are
we?
What
are
the
options
to
address
it
in
a
meaningful
way?
A
So
the
five,
the
five
overarching
goals
that
we're
focused
on
are
one
of
my
recommendations
on
speak
to
increasing
the
supply
of
affordable
rental
units
as
well
as
affordable
home
ownership
opportunities,
especially
looking
at
what
we
can
do
to
address
the
need
for
more
minority
home
ownership.
You
know
when
we
look
back
all
the
way
back
to
the
60s
and
70s.
You
know
we
have
no
greater
percentage
of
minority
homeownership
in
our
country
and
in
our
county
than
we
did
that
many
decades
ago.
So
this
is
a
long-standing
problem.
It's
part
of
this.
A
It's
part
of
this
overall
issue
that
needs
to
be
a
priority.
We
also
want
to
focus
on
preserving
what
we
think
of
as
like
the
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
in
the
community.
There's
a
lot
of
folks
who
you
know
a
lot
of
our
the
housing
in
our
community
is
older
housing
stock,
but
people,
but
it
provides
an
affordable
option,
and
so
people
want
to
be
able
to
stay
in
their
homes.
A
Our
county's
emergency
home
repair
program,
which
helps
especially
senior
citizens
and
families
who
have
members
who
are
on
disability
to
help
fix
life
safety
issues
in
their
home
so
that
they
can
safely
remain
in
their
homes
and
preserve
that
housing
stock.
So
it
doesn't
deteriorate
and
get
lost
from
our
our
community's
housing
stock.
A
We
also
want
to
support
activities
that
achieve
functional
zero
homelessness
in
the
community
and
that's
a
topic.
We
could
spend
a
whole
meeting
on
or
many
meetings
on,
but
I
think
the
short
version
is
that
you
know
there's
always
going
to
be
people
who
are
at
risk
of
homelessness
and
can
experience
homelessness.
A
The
goal
of
the
functional
zero
homelessness
is
that
we
have
strategies
to
move
people
who
are
at
risk
of
homelessness
or
may
be
experiencing
it
as
quickly
as
possible
into
safe
into
safe
housing
and
there's
a
variety
of
strategies
that
that
that
need
to
be
implemented
to
achieve
that.
A
A
The
federal
housing
voucher
program
is
one
of
the
primary
programs
administered
at
the
national
level
to
help
people
be
able
to
access,
affordable
housing,
but
we're
not
able
to
utilize
all
the
vouchers
are
we're
eligible
for
in
buncombe
county,
because
the
primary
reason
is
that
there's
just
literally
not
enough
units
in
the
market
that,
where
the
landlords
will
accept
vouchers-
and
so
we
need
to
both
build
more
projects
where
the
owners
will
accept
vouchers
and
as
well
as
implement
some
initiatives
to
encourage
existing
property
owners
to
consider
participating
in
the
program,
because
there's
a
lot
of
advantages
to
them
as
well.
A
All
right
next
slide,
please,
and
so
this
slide
outlines
our
our
specific
recommendations
to
the
board
in
these
different
areas.
So
I'm
just
going
to
briefly
review
them
at
a
high
level.
If
we
can
achieve
these
goals,
we
would
positively
impact
the
development
or
preservation
of
between
2
800
and
3150,
affordable
homes
between
now
and
2030..
So
it's
an
eight
year
little
under
eight
years
now
goal
these
would
include
the
construction
new
construction
of
1500
to
1850
rental
units
that
would
be
affordable
to
families
earning
less
than
eighty
percent
of
area.
A
Median
income
with
an
average
afford
affordability
rate
of
sixty
percent
area,
median
income
so
very
affordable,
and
these
would
include
specific
strategy
to
such
that
1200
to
1480
of
the
units
would
be
developed
through
the
low
income,
housing
tax
credit
program,
and
the
reason
that's
important
is
that
will
is
that
supporting
projects
that
are
meet
those
criteria
is
this:
will
leverage
an
additional
100
to
120
million
dollars
of
tax
credit
equity
to
buncombe
county,
so
that
the
investments
to
help
build
these
projects
is
not
born
just
by
buncombe
county
taxpayers.
A
A
It
would
also
include
the
goal
of
400
new,
affordable
home
ownership
homes
between
now
and
in
2030,
for
residents
who
make
80
of
am
I
or
less
support,
500
emergency
home
repair
units
to
help
again
keep
people
able
to
stay
in
their
homes
who
want
to
continue
living
in
their
homes
safely,
primarily
focused
on
senior
citizens,
but
not
exclusively,
and
then
also
400,
either
homes
or
apartments
that
would
be
for
residents
who
make
between
80
and
120
ami,
all
right
so
all
great
goals.
A
So
this
is
our
big
stretch,
goal
of
within
this
overall
set
of
goals,
and
so
that
that
would
be
74
million
dollars
between
now
and
2030.
On
that
ambitious
goal,
the
400
home
ownership
units-
actually,
we
think,
will
cost
a
little
bit
more
per
average
45
000
per
unit,
so
18
million
dollars
for
the
home
ownership
goals,
the
home
repair
projects
tend
to
not
be
real
expensive.
A
few
thousand
dollars
can
make
a
huge
difference
in
terms
of
someone
being
able
to
safely
remain
in
their
home.
A
A
We
go
into
these
issues
with
a
lot
of
strong
partners.
The
city
of
asheville
has
really
been
over
the
years,
the
strongest
local
government
investor
in
the
affordable
housing
space,
and
they
continue
to
make
this
a
high
priority.
They
pass
the
bond
referendum.
Some
of
those
bond
funds
are
still
unspent
and
can
be
can
be
available
to
work
with
the
county
on
these
goals.
A
There's
also
annual
home
funding
that
our
community
is
eligible
for
that
can
be
invested
towards
these
goals
and
there's
also
some
great
philanthropic
partners
as
well
that
make
affordable
housing
a
high
priority.
So
we
estimate
that
between
those
various
sources
between
now
and
2030,
it's
very
realistic
that
the
strategic
partners
in
our
community
are
likely
to
invest
around
45
million
or
more
towards
these
same
these
same
affordable
housing
goals.
A
So
that
would
remain
that
would
leave
a
total
of
54
million
that
the
county
would
need
to
plan
to
invest
in
order
to
have
all
the
resources
necessary
to
achieve
these
goals.
As
budgeted,
we've
got
a
number
of
different
potential
sources
to
pursue
them.
The
county's
currently
investing
2.3
million
dollars
per
year
in
our
annual
budget.
A
So
if
we
simply
maintain
that,
we
could
of
course
grow
it
over
time,
but
if
we
simply
maintain
current
funding,
that
would
generate
a
little
over
18
million
dollars
by
2030.,
so
a
significant
proportion
of
it
we're
fortunate
to
have
the
arpa
funds
where
most
of
these
goals
for
capital
projects
would
be
eligible.
We've
already
invested
about
eight
million
dollars
of
our
funds
towards
these
types
of
projects
and
goals,
and
we
have
another
round
of
that
about
to
be
eligible
to
for
decision
making.
A
We've
also
got
some
land
assets
that
we
talked
about
that
have
some
great
value
potentially
for
good
projects,
and
we've
also
asked
trust
for
public
land
to
help
us
do
an
assessment
around
the
potential
feasibility
of
bond
funding
and
affordable
housing
could
be
one
of
the
purposes
for
that,
and
we
await
the
results
of
that
feasibility
study
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months
ahead
of
us.
A
So
we've
got
to
we
don't
there's
not
just
one
solution
to
it:
it'll
probably
take
pulling
from
a
number
of
different
revenue
sources
to
meet
these
investment
needs.
A
The
last
point
we
wanted
to
share
from
this
slide
is
just
that,
while
this
would
be
a
significant
increase
in
our
investments
in
this
important
priority
meeting,
all
of
these
goals
will
not
solve
the
affordable
housing
challenges
we
face
as
a
community.
We
do
believe
these
goals
would
allow
us
to
reverse
the
trends
that
we
see
where
these
problems
get
worse
every
year
and
we've
all
been
here
a
while.
A
We
just
see
how
this
has
been
a
problem
for
a
while,
but
it's
gotten
it's
gotten
worse
year
after
year,
and
I
think
the
coveted
pandemic
has
has
just
made.
It
has
just
exacerbated
it.
So
we'll
see
this
become
more
of
a
positive
trend
instead
of
a
negative
trend,
but
but
meeting
these
goals
do
not
solve
the
problem.
A
The
bowen
report
and
other
analysis
of
this
showed
that
the
needs
are
quite
a
bit
more
significant
than
the
goals
that
we've
outlined
here,
so
we
won't
completely
solve
it,
but
we'll
be
headed
in
a
much
better
direction
than
what
we've
seen
in
recent
years.
We
are
also
working
on
other,
affordable
housing
related
goals.
A
The
one
that
specifically
we're
focused
on
is
the
need
for
some
additional
emergency
shelter
spaces,
but
we
just
you
know:
we've
been
working
on
this
a
while
we
felt
like
it
was
important
to
go
ahead
and
bring
the
parts
of
this
plan
that
we
feel
like
we're
ready
to
consider,
but
there'll
be
other
things
between
now,
and
you
know
over
this
period
of
time
like
these
won't
be
the
only
projects
we
want
to
support.
A
There
will
be
others
as
well,
so
we
don't
want
to
represent
that
doing
this
alone
is
the
only
needs
that
we'll
need
to
talk
about
as
a
commission
this
year
and
in
the
years
to
come
all
right.
So
that
concludes
the
overview
of
the
goals
and
the
budget
estimates
to
achieve
them
so
parker
and
amanda.
I
invite
you
guys
to
share
any
additional
thoughts
as
well.
X
I
think
they're
we've
met
well
see.
I
found
the
words
I
I
feel
like
we
found
the
spot
where
it's,
where
it's
both
achievable
and
ambitious,
that
kind
of
moving
target
that
hard
target.
X
I
think,
that's,
I
think,
that's
what
these
numbers
represent,
especially
in
the
in
the
rental
space
we've
had
a
rental
crisis
for
over
a
decade
and
and
yeah
I
mean
like,
like
the
chairman,
said
this:
won't
this
won't
solve
the
crisis,
there's
so
many
other
things
that
lead
to
the
affordability
crisis
that
many
of
our
constituents
are
living
through.
But
this
will
really
start.
X
N
N
I
think
for
me
what's
key
to
acknowledging
this:
is
that
we're
not
setting
out
to
do
this
on
our
own,
that
this
is
absolutely
a
community
as
a
whole
endeavor,
and
that
we
have
to
rely
on
our
friends
and
partners
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
increase
our
housing
stock
for
those
most
in
need
right
now,
so
for
folks
who
are
listening,
who
think
that
we're
out
there
all
alone?
We're?
Definitely
not.
N
N
L
L
So
we
have
something
very
specific
that
we're
working
toward
and
I
think
to
commissioner
edwards
edwards
point
that
it
is
really
important
for
us
to
realize
that
it's
going
to
take
more
than
just
what
we
can
do,
that
it
really
is
a
community
effort,
and
one
thing
I
was
thinking
about-
and
I
appreciate
you
putting
the
adding
the
the
vouchers
in
there
with
that
as
well,
because
I
was
thinking
about
that.
L
I
think
what
we
have
around
15
000
rental
units
in
the
county,
something
like
that
and
if,
if
everyone
who
you
know
of
all
those
big
apartments,
if
they
would
do
five
percent,
I
mean
there's
750
units
right
there.
That
would
be
taking
vouchers,
I
mean,
and
those
would
be
ready
soon,
you're
not
even
having
to
wait
to
build
right.
L
I
think
we
need
to
do
more
of
that,
because
the
work
that
we
approved
earlier
this
evening,
I
think
those
type
of
projects
really
go
a
long
way
toward
empowering
people
and
helping
them
have
the
funds
to
where
they're,
not
as
likely
to
need
the
affordable
housing.
So
the
more
of
that
work
we
can
do
as
well,
I
think,
is
a
good
thing.
T
What
I'd
like
to
add
to
that?
I'm
glad
to
see,
because
when
I
came
back
home
from
the
navy
in
college
in
the
early
70s,
it
really
was
appalling
to
me
when
I
saw
not
only
the
way
the
african-american
community
had
been
treated
with
redevelopment
model
cities
and
all
that,
but
all
the
poor
people
in
the
city.
T
You
know
it
was
just
not
you
know
chicken
hill
different
places,
but
now
I
think,
for
the
first
time.
Hopefully
we
can
do
something
that
will
start
to
make
amends
for
that.
But
my
concern
is,
I
said
it
before.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
caution
you
when
we
look
especially
to
rental
units,
I
want
us
to
really
work
at
making
these
units
permanent,
not
just
15
or
30
years,
because
that's
a
short
time
in
housing.
You
know
15
years
goes
quick,
but
that's
what
I
wanted
and
we
can
do
that.
T
We
have
an
example,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
when
you
look
at
especially
the
land
that
the
county
has
the
land,
that
the
city
owns
you're
way
ahead
of
the
game.
If
you
have
your
own
land,
so
we
can
do
a
lot
to
make
those
permanent.
You
know,
because
we've
got
to
do
that,
because
folks,
let's
face
it
20
years
from
now,
25
years
from
now
things
keep
going
the
way
they
are.
Even
if
we
can
make
these
changes,
we're
still
going
to
need
more
so,
but
I
think
it's
a
start
and
I'm
for
it.
Yeah.
W
On
that,
I
believe,
asheville
thrive
had
a
strategy.
They
were
running
that
was
about
supporting
landlords
around
vouchers.
Maybe
at
some
point
we
could
just
get
an
update
about
that
from
them
and
figure
out
how
that
might
tie
into
this.
But
you
know
just
to
say
we
said
during
the
briefing
I'm
very
excited
to
have
a
chance
to
vote
for
this
appreciate
the
work
that's
gone
into
it
for
my
staff
and
and
the
three
of
you
on
the
committee
subcommittee.
Thank
you.
A
They
they
have
been
one
of
the
groups.
That's
presented
to
the
committee
about
their
programs,
in
addition
to
the
housing
authority,
and
I
anticipate
they're,
probably
going
to
submit
an
arpa
grant
around
they've
got
a
pilot
project
in
the
city,
they're
interested
in
expanding
it
county-wide,
and
I
think
that
there'll
be
some
ideas
coming
forward,
that
we
can
look
at
around
around
that.
So
all
right.
I
also
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
our
staff,
for
the
great
work
on
this.
A
I
think
these
you
know
these
subcommittees
that
we
formed
you
know,
have
really
proven
to
be
effective
models
for
taking
a
deeper
dive
in
this
around
the
early
childhood
education
work
that
robert
and
jasmine
and
al
been
doing
with
citizens
and
staff
and
the
great
recommendations
coming
out
of
there,
and
I
think
this
has
been
a
really
positive
experience
too,
and
the
staff
have
done
a
great
job
kind
of
helping
us
understand
what
other
communities
are
doing
in
north
carolina
as
well
as
in
in
other
parts
of
the
country
that
we
can
learn
from
learn
from.
A
What's
working
well,
learn
from.
What's
not
working
well,
try
to
choose
good
strategies,
try
to
figure
out
how
to
stretch
the
you
know
the
investments
as
far
as
we
can,
and
so
sybil
and
matt,
cable
and
all
the
staff
who
have
helped
work
on
this
and
and
do
the
analysis
and
kind
of
help
us
refine
these
numbers
and
make
sure
you
know
we're
bringing
forward
the
best
information
we
can.
We
really
appreciate
it
all
right.
I've
got
a
motion,
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
All
that
concludes
our
new
business.
We
now
come
to
board
appointments
and
I'm
gonna
turn
actually.
First,
let's
do
the
asheville
buncombe
regional
sports,
commission
and
commissioner
amanda
edwards
is
currently
serving,
and,
commissioner
edwards
are
you
willing
to
continue
serving
on.
A
A
All
right,
fantastic,
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
doing
that.
A
lot
of
great
stuff
happening
there
I'll
make
a
motion
to
reappoint
amanda
edwards,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right,
and
now
we
come
to
the
asheville
community
reparations
commission
and
I
was
unable
to
participate
in
the
interviews
earlier
today
due
to
a
schedule
conflict.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
vice
chair,
amanda
edwards,
to
facilitate
this
part
of
our
discussion.
Thank.
N
You
so
much
chairman
newman.
We
interviewed
nine,
really
terrific
candidates
today
to
serve
as
our
five
representatives
and
two
alternates
on
the
community
reparations
commission
and
thanks
to
rachel,
edens
and
dk
wesley
and
lamar
and
stacy
for
helping
keep
this
moving
today
and
keeping
us
on
task
and
helping
give
us
some
guidance
for
this
evening.
We
have
five
impact
focus
areas
to
fill
this
evening,
along
with
two
alternates,
and
I
believe,
at
the
end
of
our
interviews,
we
agreed
that
we
would
each
nominate
a
candidate
to
serve
in
each
of
those
focus
areas.
N
N
W
N
N
Robert,
let's
start
with
you
for
your
two
alternate
picks
stephanie
lee
did
not
move
forward
in
us
in
a
focus
area.
Okay,.
L
U
N
So
we
have
stephanie
lee
and
dwayne
richardson
serving
as
our
alternates.
I
really
do
want
to
reiterate
again
that
we
really
had
terrific
interviewees
today,
and
any
of
them
would
have
made
a
terrific
addition
to
to
the
reparations
commission.
So
many
thanks
to
them
for
for
spending
their
time
and
willingness
to
serve
today.
Y
I
I
want
to
also
champion
them
for
being
able
to
schedule
real
quickly
all
those
applicants
they
had
a
short
turnaround
time
to
schedule
those
interviews
today,
so
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
acknowledge
that
for
their
efforts
to
make
them
available
today.
So
thank.
N
A
I've
got
a
couple
of
announcements
on
april
5th
at
3
pm,
the
county
commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
april
5th.
At
5
pm.
The
commissioners
will
hold
their
regular
meeting
at
5
p.m.
At
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.