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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Special Meeting (April 16, 2020)
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Special Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on April 16, 2020 to discuss a resolution concerning COVID-19 and funding request.
A
A
So
we've
got
a
presentation
that
Commissioner
Jazmin,
Beach
Ferrara
is
going
to
walk
us
through
and
a
resolution
that
the
Commission
will
be
discussing.
But
there's
also
several
there's
also
a
budget
amendment
that
the
county
manager
would
like
to
ask
us
to
take
a
look
at
which
could
include
resources
for
additional
planning
around
testing
efforts,
but
also
includes
several
other
items.
So
I
believe
those
are
all
the
items
we
wanted
to
cover
at
the
meeting
today,
miss
Pender's
or
anything
else
that
you
wanted
the
Commission
to
consider
while
we're
here
today.
Okay,
great.
B
B
C
The
notice
was
of
generally
related
to
Kovan
19,
however,
since
all
members
are
present
at
the
special
meeting,
any
matters
that
can
be
conducted
at
this
meeting,
okay,
so
the
the
budget
amendment
would
be
an
order
even
with
the
ambulance
items,
even
though
they
weren't
specifically
noticed
it's
appropriate
to
cut
to
consider
that
business.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Yeah-
and
you
know
obviously
these
are
we
don't
do
special
meetings
very
often
and
I
think
in
terms
of
the
Cova
19.
This
is
just
such
a
unique
issue
and
is
presenting
such
you
know
unprecedented
challenges
to
the
region
from
a
public
health
standpoint
from
an
economic
standpoint,
you
know
for
myself,
I
thought
you
know
it
would
be
timely
to
go
ahead
and
have
some
discussion
about
these
issues.
Just
like
we
have
in
some
of
the
other
issues,
we've
taken
up
with
kovin,
19
I.
A
Think
the
county,
taking
steps
sooner
rather
than
later
has
has
really
benefited
at
us
and
just
from
time
to
time,
we
might
need
to
have
special
meetings
outside
of
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting
every
two
weeks
to
make
sure
we're
moving
things
along
that
we
want
to
see
work
being
done
on
rather
than
then
always
just
waiting
for
the
for
the
regular
means.
Yeah.
B
And
I'm,
okay
with
it
I'm.
Okay
with
that
chairman
I,
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
anything
that
we're
discussing
that
the
you
know
that
to
the
extent
possible
and
that
follows
procedure
that
the
public
is
able
to
see
if
they're
able
to
react
to
it,
they're
able
to
ask
questions
because
some
of
the
things
we're
looking
at
today,
you
know
I
didn't
have
a
lot
of
time
to
spend
on
them,
so
absent.
A
A
No
I
absolutely
understand-
and
you
know
I
think
today
will
have-
will
be
discussing
several
items
if
the
Commission
is
comfortable
moving
those
ahead,
we
can
do
that.
You
know,
as
with
any
issue
at
a
regular
meeting
or
otherwise
we
can
always
take
more
time
as
we
need
to
to
make
sure
we
have
all
the
information.
We
need
to
feel
comfortable,
make
decision
all
right,
so
I
think
I'm,
gonna,
start
off
I
think
that
order
what
let's
I'd
suggest
we
take
these
in.
Let's
review
the
presentation.
A
Jasmine
will
walk
us
through
that
I'll
be
happy
to
walk
through
the
resolution.
If
we
are
comfortable
moving
that
ahead,
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
then
Miss
Pender
and
her
staff
can
walk
us
through
the
budget.
Amendment
issues
so
I
think
that's
the
one
where
we
can
take
these
up
in
and
so
we'll
get
started.
Jasmine.
If
you'd
like
to
kick
us
off.
D
Hello-
everyone,
it's
good
to
see,
fix
briefly
before
jumping
into
this
presentation,
which
really
is
just
meant
to
accompany
the
resolution
and
I.
It
was
just
recently
finished
I've
just
set
emailed
a
copy
of
it
to
everyone
on
Commission
apologize
for
the
lateness
of
that,
but
I
just
want
to
briefly.
D
First
of
all,
just
thank
everyone
on
Commission
County
staff,
especially
those
folks
at
the
EOC
in
the
public
health
department
for
the
and
a
lot
of
community
partners
and
local
public
health
experts
for
sort
of
the
combined
efforts
that
I
think
have
in
the
last
month.
Just
on
such
a
tremendous
job,
responding
to
Co
vid
and
implementing
the
social
distancing
policies
that
are
that
do
seem
to
be
flattening
the
curve.
E
D
D
D
These
are
now
being
launched.
Strategies
like
this
in
places
like
Massachusetts,
Los,
Angeles,
Utah
and
many
other
cities
and
states
across
the
country.
It's
important
to
note
and
keep
reinforcing
that
everything
we're
discussing
today
builds
upon
the
scaffolding
of
current
efforts
and
includes
continuing
current
strategies
related
to
both
social
distancing
and
social
services.
D
Our
goals,
of
course,
are
to
save
lives
and
to
prevent
oops
I've
got
too
many
things
too
many
buttons
in
front
of
me.
Our
goals
are
to
save
lives
and
prevent
serious
illness
to
ensure
that
our
local
health
care
system
has
the
capacity
to
provide
care
to
those
who
need
it.
That
means
flattening
the
curve
to
ensure
they're,
adequate
supplies
of
PPE
and
ventilators
and
to
safely
reopen
our
local
economy
and
community
as
soon
as
possible.
D
As
I
said
what
we're
discussing
today,
as
we
think
about
the
next
phase
of
efforts,
builds
upon
the
work
we've
been
doing
in
the
last
few
weeks
and
even
months,
that
includes
continued
social,
distancing
them
measures
and
continuing
to
provide
expanded
social
services
such
as
the
one
Buncombe
fund
or
free
school
meals.
There
are
three
new
components
that
we
want
to
talk
about
today.
The
first
of
these
is
planning
to
scale
up
and
expand
effort,
access
to
community
testing,
expanding
contact,
tracing
and
expanding
access
to
isolation
and
care
services
for
those
who
are
positive.
D
We
know
that
testing
is
really
the
best
and
only
way
to
determine
who
has
Co
vat19
in
our
community.
Testing
has
been,
and
continues
to
be
available
in
Buncombe
County,
and
this
includes
the
to
drive-through
testing
sites
that
were
offered
for
several
days
and
testing
that's
taking
place
in
those
places
considered
most
vulnerable,
such
as
continuing
care
facilities
moving
forward.
What
we'll
be
talking
about
today
is
how
the
county
can
prioritize
the
expansion
of
kovat
19
testing.
D
We
all
know,
of
course,
that
first
this
requires
tackling
supply
chain
issues
which
have
plagued
access
to
testing
across
the
United
States
and
locally.
The
good
news
is
that
new
technologies
and
increased
production
are
improving
the
supply,
but
it's
very
important
to
note
that
it
remains
a
significant
challenge
to
access
testing
supplies
locally
in
the
volume
that
we
need.
D
Next,
this
involves
developing
protocols
for
the
types
of
tests
to
be
used
when
they'll
be
administered
and
for
whom
they
will
be
used.
Testing
will
need
to
be
implemented
in
phases
as
we
have
access
to
more
supplies.
Initial
resources
will
need
to
be
prioritized
towards
folks,
like
medical
professionals,
first
responders
people
who
work
in
essential
businesses
that
require
close
interaction
with
the
public,
such
as
cashiers
at
grocery
stores
and
staff
and
nursing
homes
and
residents
of
Buncombe
County,
with
documented
symptoms
of
kovat
19.
D
The
next
steps,
as
we
look
at
how
to
begin
moving
forward,
include
implementing
a
new
self
check
program
which
county
staff
are
developing
in
partnership
with
Mae
heck.
This
is
a
program
through
which
residents
with
symptoms
will
be
able
to
complete
an
online
assessment
and
receive
guidance
about
next
steps,
including
testing
for
those
who
meet
criteria.
D
Just
to
spend
a
little
more
time
on
testing,
because
it's
really
at
the
core
of
our
talking
about
current
testing
procedures
require
tests
to
be
mailed
to
labs,
and
that
takes
several
days
for
results.
The
new
system
testing,
the
new
testing
systems
that
are
becoming
available
can
generate
same-day
results,
but
supplies
of
these
are
very
limited
and
some
are
still
undergoing
validation,
there's
also
a
type
of
test
called
antibody
testing,
that's
being
developed,
which
could
identify
who
in
our
community,
has
had
and
recovered
from
kovat
19
and
may
have
immunity.
D
These
testing
systems
also
require
further
validation
and
are
expected
to
be
supply
constrained.
So
all
of
this
is
really
just
about
a
very
clear
sighted
assessment
of
the
landscape,
but
also
the
challenges
we
face
around
accessing
testing
locally
contact
tracing
goes
hand
in
hand
with
testing.
This
is
a
process
that
identifies
people
who've
been
exposed
and
it
connects
them
to
testing
as
needed
and
as
needed
treatment
and
safe
isolation
options.
D
It's
important
to
note
that
the
county
has
been
conducting
contact
tracing
from
the
start
for
positive
cases.
The
next
step
in
this
which
is
already
being
planned,
is
to
expand
contact,
tracing
efforts,
as
more
testing
is
conducted
and
more
positive
cases
identified.
Doing
so
would
involve
training,
more
staff
and
scaling
up
current
systems.
I
wanted
to
just
share,
in
some
case
studies
of
other
communities
in
the
United
States
that
are
moving
forward
with
these
strategies.
On
the
testing
front,
Los
Angeles
has
really
emerged
as
a
place
where
we're
seeing
wide
scale
testing
happen.
D
Last
week,
they
launched
a
free
testing
program
for
anyone
with
symptoms
involving
both
drive-through
and
walk-up
sites,
they're
prioritizing
folks
for
over
65,
those
with
chronic
conditions,
healthcare
workers
and
first
responders,
the
Tet,
the
test
that
they
are
using
our
self-administered
mouth,
swabs
or
staff
administered
nasal
swabs,
Los
Angeles
was
able
to
access
these
tests
by
purchasing
them
directly
from
a
South
Korean
company.
They
bought
20,000
tests
at
a
cost
of
1.25
million.
D
One
of
the
issues
that
comes
up
in
looking
at
the
Los
Angeles
model
is
whether
that
those
tests
have
been
FDA
approved
through
their
emergency
process
or
not,
and
the
decisions
that
communities
face
around
whether
to
pursue
testing
models
that
have
or
haven't
been
approved.
In
that
way,
when
we
look
at
contact
tracing
the
case
study
that
that
kind
of
leaps
forward
is
what's
happening
in
Massachusetts
also,
last
week,
Massachusetts
launched
a
statewide
contact
tracing
program
working
with
an
organization
called
Partners
in
Health.
D
Just
as
a
point
of
reference
Massachusetts
at
the
state
level
has
allocated
forty
four
million
dollars
to
run
this
program
through
October,
and
they
will
soon
be
releasing
a
toolkit
for
other
communities
around
the
country
about
how
they're
scaling
this
up.
As
a
quick
side
note,
this
is
also
something
that
North
Carolina
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
talked
about
in
their
press
briefing
yesterday
that
they're
working
on
ramping
up
across
the
state.
D
This
could
be
because
people
live
with
people
who
are
high
risk
where
people
don't
have
the
ability
in
their
home
to
have
a
private
bedroom
and
bathroom
for
people
again
who
are
experiencing
homelessness.
This
free
isolation
model
includes
lodging
medical
checks,
meals
and
other
support
services,
and
the
great
advantage
of
this
is
that
it
reduces
the
risk
of
transmission
within
families,
households
or
facilities,
as
we
think
about,
what's
currently
in
place
in
our
community
in
our
communities,
done
an
incredible
job
of
following
social
distancing
policies.
D
The
greatest
risk
that
really
remains
is
the
type
of
risk
happening
at
the
level
of
congregate,
living
facilities
or
at
the
level
of
households,
particularly
households,
where
their
individuals
who
fall
into
high-risk
groups
and
expanding
access
to
public
isolation
facilities.
As
a
way
to
help
us
tackle
those
pieces
of
the
the
kind
of
risk
puzzle
so
to
speak,
the
county-
it's
important
to
note,
has
been
providing
isolation,
services
and
small
numbers
and
is
preparing
to
scale
those
up
as
we
move
forward.
A
quick
case.
D
Study
of
this
comes
from
Greeley
Colorado,
a
community
of
about
a
hundred
thousand
people
that
just
designated
a
local
facility
for
isolation
services
for
folks
who
have
kovat
and
can't
say,
safely,
isolated
home,
they're,
doing
this
in
an
unoccupied,
30
unit
apartment
building
and
have
budgeted
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
doing
this.
So
we
see
both
smaller
cities
like
a
place
like
really
Colorado
and
some
of
the
largest
cities
in
the
United
States,
really
on
the
same
page.
That
I
think
we're
headed
on
to
here
in
Buncombe
County,
which
is
exciting.
D
The
other
piece
of
this
just
briefly,
which
again
absolutely
builds
on
the
scaffolding
of
work.
That's
underway,
is
expanded
prevention
and
early
detection
for
both
high-risk
individuals
and
vulnerable
communities,
as
we
think
about
all
the
people
who
live
in
Buncombe
County.
We
know
that
there's
some
folks
who
are
at
higher
risk
of
contracting
Cova
to
begin
with,
because
of
living
in
a
congregate
living
facility,
for
instance,
and
then
there
are
some
folks
who,
if
they
contract,
it,
are
at
a
higher
risk
of
becoming
acutely
sick
more
quickly.
D
So
a
key
part
of
this
is
about
continuing
prevention
efforts
and
early
detection
efforts
in
these
communities
and
doing
it
in
a
way.
That's
equity
informed
just
briefly,
some
of
the
communities
we
think
about
include
healthcare
workers
and
first
responders
residents
of
long-term
care
and
assisted
living
facilities,
and
what
we're
seeing
from
state
and
national
data
is
that
african-american
individuals
are
at
a
significantly
increased
risk
both
of
infection
and
death.
D
D
D
D
We
think
about
establishing
criteria
for
being
able
to
reopen
different
sectors,
think
about
creating
systems
to
provide
guidance
and
technical
assistance
for
sectors
regarding
reopening
and
then
also
establishing
protocols
to
monitor
sectors
that
have
been
reopened
and
triggers
for
reclosure
should
those
be
required
at
any
point,
as
we
think
longer
down
the
runway.
We
recognize,
of
course,
that
our
response
to
code
19
will
remain
a
top
County
priority
in
the
coming
year
and
potentially
beyond
that
time.
D
Until
a
vaccine
is
available
and
we
reach
herd
immunity,
we
must
guard
against
the
threat
of
new
waves
of
transmission.
Concrete
steps
we
might
consider
in
terms
of
mid
and
long-range
planning
include
a
funding
strategy
for
kovat
19
in
the
coming
years,
budget
systems
for
ongoing
prevention
and
monitoring
strategies,
and
also
how
we
will
plan
for
the
mass
administration
of
a
vaccine
when
it
is
finally
available
in
closing
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
talk
about
the
regional
context.
D
Buncombe
County
is
doing
really
tremendous
work
in
response
to
kovat
and,
of
course,
the
virus
doesn't
respect
county
lines
any
more
than
it
does
state
or
national
lines.
So
we
want
to
think
about
the
communities
around
us
as
well,
and
the
fact
that
our
efforts
will
be
most
effective
when
they're
part
of
both
a
regional
and
a
statewide
strategy
and
even
a
southeastern
strategy,
as
we
think
about
how
close
we
are
to
other
southern
states
just
briefly
to
provide
a
snapshot
of
how
kovat
19
has
is
impacting
Western
North
Carolina
communities.
D
Currently
this
is
data
pulled
from
the
state
and
then
from
Buncombe
County
on
April
14th,
currently
there's
a
documented
case
count
of
366
lab,
confirmed
cases
across
the
22
counties
in
Western,
North
Carolina.
That's
seven
point:
four
percent
of
all
cases
in
North
Carolina
there
have
tragically
been
11
deaths
in
our
region,
accounting
for
twelve
point:
seven
percent
of
deaths
in
North
Carolina
and
among
those
22
counties.
There
are
five
counties
that
account
for
280
cases
and
nine
deaths.
Those
are
Buncombe
Burke,
Cleveland,
Henderson
and
Rutherford
counties.
D
D
Our
one
slide
I'm,
sorry
that
detail
that
kind
of
breakdown
by
County
again
from
a
couple
days
ago,
and
that's
really
the
the
context
and
a
bit
more
information
surrounding
the
resolution
that
I'm
gonna
turn
things
over
to
brownie,
to
walk
us
through
and,
of
course,
it'll
be
great
to
have
discussion
and
conversation
at
the
level
of
Commission
and
then
with
staff.
If
there's
an
interest
in
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
A
All
right,
I'd
like
to
walk
through
the
resolution
that
we
have
actually
liked
to
read
it,
but
before
I
do
that
just
to
share
a
few
thoughts
about
you
know.
What's
the
what's
the
purpose
of
considering
this
resolution,
there
are
so
many
different
aspects
of
the
fight
that
we
are
involved
in
around
Cova
19
that
we're
responding
to
some
of
the
things
I've
already
been
put
in
place,
but
I,
you
know,
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
what
we've
you
know
been
having
to
do
over
the
last.
A
A
We've
had
to
stop
public
gatherings,
so
a
lot
of
it
has
been
really
using
the
tool
we
have
to
to
kind
of
keep
everyone
staying
home
and
staying
safe
as
a
way
to
prevent
the
spread
of
this
dangerous
disease,
and
that
will
continue
to
be
important
as
we
go
as
we
go
forward.
We
know
that
we're
doing
better
the
the
number
of
coab
accounts
we
have
in
Buncombe
County
is
fortunately
much
lower
than
other
metropolitan
areas
across
North,
Carolina
and
across
the
country.
A
A
We
can
reopen
our
houses
of
worship
in
our
schools,
but
we
have
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
is
as
safe
as
possible
and
doesn't
undo
the
progress
we've
made
in
terms
of
slowing
down
and
reducing
the
spread
of
kebun,
19
and
I
know.
You
know
we're
all
doing
everything
we
can
to
kind
of
learn
about
this,
because
it's
such
an
unusual
situation.
None
of
us
have
ever
been
involved
in
an
issue
like
this
as
County
Commissioners
or
our
members
of
the
community
in
our
lifetime.
A
So
you
know,
as
we
listen
to
our
our
local
health
experts,
you
know
when
we
try
to
look
at
what
other
communities
around
the
country
are
doing
it's.
You
know
it's
pretty
clear
that
this
community
testing
strategy
is
gonna,
be
a
key
component
to
how
we
move
forward
and
continue
to
reduce
the
spread
of
kovat,
but
also
allowing
us
to
make
informed
decisions
about
restarting
businesses
and
other
community
activities.
The
cost
will
be
able
to
have
a
better
sense
of
how
much
code
would
19.
A
There
is
in
the
community
and
as
we
provide
more
flexibility
to
businesses
and
community
groups,
we
will
be
able
to
track
in
a
way
that
we
really
can't
now,
due
to
the
limited
amount
of
testing,
whether
the
amounts
of
Kovan
19
are
starting
to
to
grow
again
in
a
way,
that's
that's
dangerous
and
exceeding
the
the
levels
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
consider
manageable
in
our
in
our
region.
So
you
know
from
the
county's
health
experts.
A
Communities
across
the
country
and
across
the
world
are
all
competing
for
the
same
resources.
A
lot
of
these
technologies
are
very
much
under
development
and
are
emergent
so,
as
Jasmine
said
some
of
them,
some
of
them
are
proven
technologies
that
have
been
around
for
a
long
time.
Others
are
very
new
and
are
still
going
through
different
validation
processes.
So
I
think
part
of
the
purpose
of
this
resolution
is
just
for
us
to
recognize
as
a
commission
that
this
is
something
that
you
know
due
to
the
national
shortage
of
these
supplies.
A
We've
done
some
work
in,
but
this
the
scale
of,
what's
probably
needed
in
the
future,
is
gonna.
Be
is
gonna,
be
great
and
it's
gonna
require
a
sustained
effort.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
key
part
of
our
strategy
so
anyway,
without
context.
Let
me
just
I'd
like
to
just
review
the
resolution,
and
then
we
can
have
some
discussion
about
it.
A
That
needs
to
be
done
and
and
what
you
know,
what
miss
Pender
has
hasn't
said
to
me
is
that
you
know
some
of
the
planning
work
and
other
things
that
that
need
to
be
done
in
this
area
can
be
handled
with
the
resources
that
would
be
included
within
that
budget
amendment.
So
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
a
budget
amendment
within
the
context
of
this
resolution.
A
To
expand
prevention
and
early
detection
efforts
among
high-risk
individuals
and
vulnerable
communities.
G
to
develop
protocols
for
utilizing
testing
as
part
of
an
overall
plan
for
safely
reopening
the
local
economy
and
community
and
finally
H
to
seek
collaboration
with
entities
including,
but
not
limited
to
North
Carolina,
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
local
governments
in
Western,
North,
Carolina
funding
entities,
healthcare
providers,
health
care
providers
and
systems
and
community-based
organizations.
A
And
then,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
item,
number
2
can
be
deleted
from
the
resolution,
which
is
the
would
have
been
a
budget
authorization
but
we'll
handle
that
discussion
separately.
All
right.
So,
commissioners,
those
are
those
are
the
contents
of
the
resolution
and
so
be
happy
to.
You
know
kind
of
pause
there
and
we
can
have
some
discussion
and
once
we've
handled
this,
then
we'll
turn
it
over
and
we'll
talk
about
the
budget
amendment
which
is
can
be
related
to
this
in
part,
but
also
includes
several
other,
several
other
several
other
items.
B
B
B
You
know
state
guidance
and
see
where
they're
at
so
we
can
react
in
in
Buncombe
and
see
where
we
need
to
be,
but
I
believe
this
requires
a
lot
of
discussion.
I
took
some
notes:
I'm,
not
sure
where
all
the
information
came
from
in
the
slide
presentation,
someone
worked
pretty
hard
on
it
and
and
and
I'm
glad
for
that,
but
I'm,
not
sure
of
the
validity
of
all
the
information
in
it.
B
There's
certain
places
that
are
quoted
and
I'm,
not
sure
that
that's
that
those
sources
or
what
we
should
be
should
what
we
should
be
relying
on.
So
the
reason
I
asked
at
the
beginning
from
a
procedural
standpoint,
you
know
if
we,
if
we
announce
that
we're
going
to
have
a
meeting
within
48
hours,
should
this
information
have
not
been
and
I'll
go
back
to
mr.
Freudian.
B
Could
this
should
this
information
if
it
is
and
I,
and
it
is
very
important,
so
I'm
not
going
to
diminish
that
and
I
would
love
to
have
a
long
discussion
on
it,
but
should
this
information
have
not
been
included
when
we
announced
that
we
were
going
to
have
a
special
meeting
or
just
to
discuss
next
steps
regarding
covert
19?
Should
this
information
have
not
been
included
in
that
at
that
time,.
C
Even
the
this
is
the
very
nature
of
special
meeting
is
to
be
called
on
short
notice,
and
it
clearly
is
not
does
not
fall
within
the
normal
parameters
of
a
regular
scheduled
meeting
where
we
would
have
all
agenda
items
to
the
best
of
our
abilities
readily
available
to
the
board
in
the
community,
the
Wednesday
before
the
Tuesday
being
six
days
in
advance.
So
those
rules
aren't
contemplated
by
statute
or
by
rule
for
special
meetings.
C
A
Kind
of
comment:
I-
don't
wanna,
interrupt
you
I
just
I
mean
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
really
appreciate
your
concerns
right,
like
the
way
that
we
are
doing
some
things
now
are
just
not
the
way
we
are
normally
going
to
do
stuff.
You
know,
I,
can't
you're
right,
I,
can't
think
of
any
other
issue
since
I've
been
on
the
County
Commission,
where
we've
done
something
like
this,
but
I
also
know
that
there
hasn't
been
any
time
I've
been
on
the
County
Commission.
A
We
better
do
something
different
stead
of
having
everyone
come
together
this
weekend
and
there
were
some
different
big
community
activities
that
were
scheduled
in
Buncombe
County.
That
weekend
as
well
and
the
organizer
said
you
know
we
better
not
do
that.
So
I
think
the
fact
that
they
made
those
decisions
sooner
I
think
it
I
think
it
provided
benefits
and
I
and
I
think
I.
Think
this.
This
issue
was
similar
to
that
I
think
the
sooner
we
can
start
thinking
about
how
we
begin
planning
around.
How
do
we?
A
But
how
do
we
start
turning
things
back
on
I?
Think,
timing,
matters
on
that
too,
so
I,
just
I
just
want
to
say
I'm,
also
not
comfortable
with
with
this.
For
some
of
the
same
reasons
you
are,
but
I
also
think
it
behooves
us
to
have
these
conversations,
and
you
know
and
try
to
move
these
conversations
for
worse
I.
Just
wanna
I
want
to
acknowledge
your
concerns,
but
also
kind
of
just
share.
Why
I
think
in
some
cases,
we're
gonna
need
to?
A
B
That's
what
that's?
What
makes
it
really
tough
for
me
is
because
you
know
you
know
I'm
not
going
to
be
able
to
vote
to
support
it
simply
because
I've
not
had
that
opportunity
to
be
able
to
discuss
it
and
I
thought
really
that's
what
we
were
going
to
be
doing.
I
wasn't
expecting
a
motion
to
to
pass
a
resolution
expecting
that
we
would
talk
through
these
things.
Maybe
have
additional
ideas
that
we
might
want
to
add.
The
other
is
a
little.
B
D
A
B
Was
no
process
on
that?
You
know
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
afraid
to
do
the
right
thing.
You
know
that
and
I
know
you're
not
saying
that
this
is
this
is
this
is
different,
because
what
we're
saying
and
I
would
love
to
be
tested.
I'd
love
to
be
tested
tomorrow,
I'd
love
to
be
tested,
I'd
love
to
find
out.
If
I
got
you
know,
antibodies,
I'd
love
to
find
out
that
information
is
that
available
to
me.
Can
I
get
that
I
mean
a
strategy
of
testing
is
not
a
bad
strategy.
B
D
G
D
Don't
even
know
maybe
10:30
with
two
screaming
babies
and
a
five-year-old
who
wanted
to
wrestle
with
me,
so
that
was
sort
of
that
context
of
it.
This
wasn't
something
that
sort
of
been
sitting
on
the
shelf,
but
I.
Certainly
you
know
think
it's
important
for
us
to
be
discussing
it,
but
I
do
think
that
there's
really
univocal
sort
of
recommendations
that
scaling
up
testing
is
the
one
and
only
way
to
safely
reopen
an
economy
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
folks
every
single
day
and
I
know
you
are
I
know
everyone
is.
D
I
just
didn't
think
that
was
possible
and
it's
amazing.
So
that's
really
what's
driving
this
again.
If
there's
any
specific
questions
about
the
data
or
the
case
studies
I'm
happy
to
talk,
those
through
I
tried
to
include
source
links.
Any
time
data
is
cited
and
it's
basically
mostly
news
reports
of
what's
happening
in
different
communities
from
South
Korea
to
a
small
town
in
Colorado
to
data
from
our
own
County
website.
F
You
know
I
agree
with
Commissioner
Belcher's
about
one
thing:
these
are
it's
uncommon.
This
is
not
the
usual
times,
but
it's
times
like
this
that
our
leaders
and
we
as
leaders
we
have
to
step
up
and
I
think
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
where
we
are
in
America
overall
is
that
we
didn't
took
too
much
time
on
the
front
end
and
look
at
how
many
lives.
What
over
30,000
people
have
died.
On
the
other
hand,
in
Buncombe,
County
I
think
we've
been
successful
because
we
didn't
play
around
I.
F
Have
commissioners
calling
me
from
other
counties
across
the
state
they
want
to
look
at
where
we
are
so
they
can
get
here,
because
we
really
took
the
bull
by
the
horns
and
moved
and
thanks.
Thank
you,
I'd
like
to
thank
our
staff
and
I
can't
thank
them
enough
for
taking
the
leadership
in
doing
this,
but
I
think
on
this
resolution
and
folks
I'm
coming
I've
got
two
x's
on
my
back
one
I'm
65
and
over
to
I'm
african-american.
F
Sometimes
it's
tough
in
situations
like
this
you've
got
to
have
the
patience,
but
you
also
have
got
to
be
willing
to
roll
up
your
sleeve
and
do
what
we
need
to
do
and
I
disagree.
I.
Think
this
this
when
I
look
at
this
resolution.
Folks,
a
lot
of
it
is
just
common
sense
and
when
you
look
at
the
studies
you
know
I've
been
reading
on
this
every
day,
nighttime
at
home,
I
can't
run
out
and
I
think
we
have.
You
know
what
we're
doing
and
what
we've
seen
is.
F
Fine
and
I
have
a
cousin
that
I
just
talked
to
this
morning
in
LA
who's
very
active
in
the
government
in
Los,
Angeles
County
and
what
they
are
doing.
Folks
is
it's
unreal,
but
unfortunately,
I
don't
think.
There's
even
peeps
I'll
tell
on
the
curb
they've
got
eyes,
I
hear
that
them,
but
we've
got
to
act
and
I.
Think
what
I
see
here
is
something
we
cannot
afford
to
wait
on.
We've
got
that
act
and
we
got
act
on
it
today
and
I
agree.
F
He
only
comes
up,
but
in
times
like
this,
sometimes
you
can't
wait.
Folks,
we
got
to
step
out,
and
you
know
leadership-
is
that
the
heat
that
sometimes
hot
in
the
kitchen,
you
know
we
got
to
understand
that,
but
I
think
we've
got
to
move.
We
just
can't
enter
the
community
is
expecting
us
to
show
leadership
here
and
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
to
come
out
of
this,
and
this
is
what
I
see
this
resolution,
and
this
is
not
something
you
can
just
open
up
and
say
we're
gonna
open
this
facility
tomorrow.
F
This,
the
next
day
and
I
know
people
are
hurting,
but
we've
got
to
test.
We've
got
to
know
who
we
deal
with,
because
when
I
look
at
the
figures
from
Buncombe
County
I'd
be
the
first
to
say
they
can't
be
true
figures,
because
we
haven't
done
the
testing,
we
don't
know
who
there
is
really
still
walking
around
with
the
vials,
but
when
we
get
back
to
this
resolution,
this
is
something
we
need
to
do
and
you
know
I
got
the
information
like
everybody
else
did,
but
it's
all
reviewed
it.
F
A
H
I
agree:
Commissioner:
what's
up,
we
need
to
act.
I
think
we
need
to
do
testing
that's
available.
I
think
we
need
to
see
when
the
testing
is
gonna
be
available
and
how
many
we
can
get.
I
also
think
need
continue
to
plan
how
we're
gonna
reopen
this
communities,
but
do
we
have
to
sign
a
resolution
in
order
to
start
these
other
things?
It's
a
piece
of
paper.
It's
a
resolution.
Do
we
have
to
sign
and
say
this
is
what
we've
got
to
do
before
we
can
talk
about
it
anymore.
That's
my
question.
B
A
Mean
there's
a
lot
of
great
work
being
done
on
this
easy
is
for
odd,
for
obvious
reasons,
there's
a
great
need
for
it.
I
think
this
is
just
gonna,
be
a
very
significant
piece
of
this
right
and
we've
never
had
to
do
something
like
this
before
you
know
the
countries
these
other
countries
that
we're
mostly
talking
about
like
that
are
have
handled
this
better
than
most
other
countries
around
the
world.
Part
of
the
reason
from
what
from
what
I've
you
know
again
we're
all
reading
stuff
trying
to
figure
out
how
folks
are
handling
it.
A
Part
of
the
reason
some
countries
have
had
a
better
go
of
this
whole
thing
than
others
is
they've
had
other
epidemics
in
the
more
recent
past
than
we've.
Never
we've
never
had
anything
like
this,
but
they've
had
other
bad
experiences
with
it
where
they
had
to.
They
learn
these
lessons
a
decade
ago
right,
so
they
have
systems
for
testing.
And,
frankly,
you
know
some
of
the
justice
societies
learned
all
right.
A
Here's
here's
kind
of
what
we
have
to
do
if
we
had
something
else
like
this
happen
in
five
or
ten
years
from
now,
which
I
hope
we
won't.
You
know
we'll
have
gone
through
this
before,
but
nobody
in
our
countries
had
to
deal
with
this,
since
you
know
1918
so
so,
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
significant
part
of
the
work.
A
We
don't
have
a
plan.
Yet
basically,
this
resolutions
asking
for
the
creation
of
a
short-term
plan
and
a
long-term
plan
we've
taken
the
budget
piece
out-
miss
Pender
will
Octus
in
just
a
minute
about
some
different
things
that
we
can
consider
investing
in
right
now,
but
we
don't
know
what
this
is
gonna
cost
yet
we're
gonna
have
to
plant.
Do
the
planning
around
that,
but
I
think
it's
to
me.
It's
it's
a
significant
enough
piece
of
work.
A
H
It's
all
recorded
and
we're
gonna
start
finding
out
when
they're
available
who's
gonna
get
the
test
first
and
I'll
and
I
mean
our
turn,
their
county
manager.
Do
we
cuz
we've
already
changed
number
two
on
the
back
here
took
out.
You
know
about
the
budget
which
we're
gonna
talk
about
later,
so
the
resolutions
got
to
be
redone
anyway,
right.
D
Why
not
pass
the
resolution
if
these
are
strategies
that
we
think
we
ought
to
move
forward
with
and
that
set
a
clear
direction
and
also
that
communique
that
communicate
to
the
people
of
Buncombe
County?
How
serious
we
take
this?
That
we
are
elevating
this
to
be
the
top
priority
in
our
community
and
that
we're
committed
to
short
mid-range
and
long
term
planning
around.
E
H
J
I
say
something
first:
first
of
all,
let's
look
at
the
the
big
thing
we
are
where
we're
at
because
of
our
citizens.
They
did
what
we
asked
them
to
do,
and
this
is
ever-evolving
and
we
know
it's
fast,
but
the
email
that
I
got
on
Monday
said
we
were
going
to
come
and
discuss
what
phase
to
look
like
absolutely.
This
is
not
discussing
what
phase
to
look
like
this
is
almost
implementing.
What
phase
two
is
going
to
be
I
know
that
we
have
to
test.
I
know
that
we've
got
to
do
that.
J
We
also
have
got
to
get
our
economy
going
back
again
for
the
mental
aspect
of
our
citizens.
The
long-term
aspect
they're
going
to
have
dealing
with
their
jobs
going
and
all
that
the
issue
is
what
does
that
testing
gonna
look
like
that's
where
I
want
to
to
know.
If
you
look,
it
says:
develop
short-term
and
long-term
plans
for
expanded,
Cova
19
community
testing.
What
does
that
look
like?
Are
we
testing
just
just
those
who
can't
afford
to
go,
get
a
test?
J
If
mine,
if
I
call
my
doctor
and
say
hey
I've
got
sneezing
coughing,
don't
worry
about
it,
just
stay
at
home,
don't
come
and
get
tested.
Those
are
answers
that
we
have
to
to
get
are
questions
that
we
have
to
get
answers
to,
and
this
here
looks
like
it's
already
bonding
us
to
Phase
two
and
we
were
going
to
discuss
phase
two
today,
I'm
all
for
whatever
we
have
to
do
and
as
it
says
here
says,
we
know
that
there's
a
shortage
in
testing.
J
J
What
is
the
next
phase?
Are
we
ready
as
commission,
now,
here's
here's?
The
thing
I've
only
been
here
about
a
month
and
boy
what
a
month
it
has
been
yeah,
but
we
we
don't
I,
hope
that
we
don't
do
business.
We're
an
email
went
out
saying
one
thing
and
then
I
didn't
even
know
we
had
a
resolution.
I
meant
for
another
Commission
said:
if
you
read
the
resolution,
that's
that's
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
I
hope
we
don't
do
business
that
way.
J
The
second
thing
is:
are
we
ready
and
prepared
if
the
governor
of
North
Carolina
says
we're
going
to
start
easing
up
and
are
we
going
to
follow
him?
Are
we
gonna
say
no,
because
this
is
what
we
got
is
our
phase
two
we're
not
going
to
do
that?
Those
are
answers
that
need
to
be
Ants
our
questions
that
need
to
be
answered
before
we
bind
ourselves
to
what
phase
two
is.
That's
just
that's
my
opinion.
Well,.
A
You
know,
and
we
can
absolutely
talk
about
other
aspects
of
you
know
this
is
this
meeting
was
convened
to
talk
about.
Where
are
we
going
on
the
COBE
response
issues?
So
if
there
are
other
commissioners
have
other
things
I'd
like
to
discuss
regarding
you
know
ideas
around
that
we
can
absolutely
do
that
today
as
well.
A
You
know
as
I've
thought
about
this
questions
because
we're
all
thinking
about
them
right
I
mean
it's
there's
just
there's
just
so
much,
there's
so
much
pain
that
you
know
the
the
environment.
We're
in
right
now
is
it's
creating
for
folks,
but
you
know
I
mean
I.
My
high-level
response
would
be
you
know,
I,
don't
know
the
answer
of
those
questions
you
just
ask.
Those
are
really
important.
I
would
definitely
be
looking
to
our
health
officials
for
what
they
think
is
the
right
thing
for
Buncombe,
County,
I.
A
Think
they've
done
that
carefully,
with
each
step
we've
taken
and
I
would
certainly,
you
know,
look
to
them
for
guidance
around.
What's
the
right
decision
for
Buncombe
County
to
make
on
those
issues,
but
the
one
thing
that
I
just
kind
of
keep
coming
back
to
you.
The
one
thing
that
we
know
is
that
we've
got
to
do
a
lot
more
of
this
testing,
whether
we're
providing
more
flexibility
for
businesses
and
public
gatherings
or
whether
we're
keeping
it
at
the
same
level.
We
have
right
now,
just
the
one
thing
that's
just
become
crystal
clear.
A
Looking
at
this
challenge
is
that
we
need
the
data
that
testing
provides
and,
in
the
short
term,
we're
gonna,
be
resource
constrained
around
how
much
we
can
get
in
the
long
term.
It's
probably
gonna,
be
you
know
very
large-scale,
but
we
need
to
begin
focusing
on
going
down
that
path
in
a
much
more
significant
way,
regardless
of
what
the
rest
of
the
kind
of
what
other
aspects
of
what
comes
next
look
like
in
my
personal
opinion,
so.
J
Good,
let's
look
at
the
resolution.
If
you
don't
mind-
and
maybe
we
can,
if
you
look
at
number-
a
developed,
short-term
long-term
plans
for
expanded
Co
V
for
community
testing,
so
so
a
let's
see
what
the
community
testing
is,
but
then
it
says
to
include
but
limited
to
frontline
medical
and
first
responder
staff.
So
does
that?
Are
we
saying
that
we're
going
to
try
to
prepare
where
we
going
to
test
them
or
their
insurance
company
test
them?
If
their
doctors
say
don't
be
tested?
J
Well
then,
how
do
we
know
there's
more
out
there?
If
we
don't
test
them
and
then
we
know
they're
out
there
we
do
know.
What
is
this?
Are
we
gonna
try
to
test
everybody
to
get
those
numbers
to
be
more
in
line?
I
mean
sorry,
but
New
York,
just
three
thousand
deaths
and
said
we
just
assume
when
they
died
from
kovat.
That
puts
a
fear
in
the
people's
mind
that
this
is,
and
we
can't
do
that.
J
D
D
D
And
what's
this
the
really
at
the
core
of
this
is
saying
we
need
to
test
more
and
then
we
need
to
do
the
things
that
go
along
with
testing
so
that
we
have
the
best
understanding
possible
about
the
extent
of
kovat
in
our
community
and
we
can
as
safely
but
also
as
quickly
as
possible,
reopen
our
economy
in
our
community.
And
that's
what
this
says
and
puts
in
motion
basically
puts
in
motion,
basically
a
framework
that
staff
would
use
to
expedite
the
planning
process.
D
A
I
make
one
comment
on
it
too,
and
I'm
kind
of
thinking
about
this.
You
know
why
do
a
resolution
I'm
kind
of
caused
me
to
reflect
on?
Why
are
we
doing
resolution?
So
so
one
of
the
reasons
I.
Do
you
think
that
this
is
valuable,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
work
being
done
around
all
this
right
from
different
there's?
There's
doctors
doing
it
HCA
about
some
testing
going
on
dogwood
wants
to
go
big
on
this
they're.
You
know
they're.
A
They
want
to
do
a
lot
they're
doing
a
lot
of
great
stuff,
but
when
I
think
about
Buncombe,
County
and
I
think
about
the
amount
of
testing
that
I
think
based
on
everything.
I've
tried
to
learn
about
this.
You
know
as
a
policymaker
over
the
last
month,
because
I
think
we
need
to
be
doing
more
and
in
eventually
quite
a
bit
quite
a
bit
more
I
mean
eventually.
Maybe
everyone
in
Buncombe
County
does
get
a
test.
That's
not
going
to
happen
anytime
soon,
right
now,
we'll
be
doing
great.
A
You
know
it
has
been
local
government
so
we're
in
some
cases
some
state
governments
that
have
stepped
up
and
said
we
just
need
to
make
sure
this
happens,
and
we
play
the
leadership
role
in
trying
to
move
in
that
direction,
even
understanding
all
these
logistical
constraints
that
are
going
to
make
it
more
limited
than
we
would
probably
like
to
for
it
to
be,
ideally,
at
least
in
the
short
term.
So
you
know
so.
J
We
took
the
budget
part
out
of
it
and
and
I'm
going
to
guess
that
number
two
was
going
to
be.
This
was
a
kind
of
an
ideal
cost
of
what
it
would
be.
This
would
look
like
for
this
resolution,
but
since
we've
licked
that
out
and
that's
gonna
be
a
separate
part
of
business,
and-and-and
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
the
budget
part.
It's
not.
It's
not
the
issue.
The
issue
I
got
here.
J
A
Out
now
we
could
we
could
meet.
We
could
we
could
have
some
more
information
on
that
before
we
bring
this
to
the
to
the
vote
if
you'd
like
to,
but
just
for
a
little
context
on
the
process.
We
are
kind
of
working
on
this,
as
you
know,
moving
this
ahead
as
we
can
originally,
when
this
was
drafted,
I,
don't
think
we
were
aware
that
there
were
some
other
budget
things
that
would
be
beneficial
for
us
to
take
up
today
related
to
kovetz.
A
B
Well
so
mr.
Belcher,
yes,
yeah
I
did
and
so
the
reason
that
that
Commissioner
Penland,
that
these
resolutions
are
so
difficult
is
that
we
tend
to.
If
we,
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
agree
with
the
whole
thing,
then
we're
put
in
a
position.
I
know:
Commissioner,
Whiteside
didn't
and
didn't
intentionally
do
this,
but
you
know
he
mentioned
that
these
things
require
leadership.
These
things,
oh
I'm,.
B
Just
hope
it
wasn't
directed
in
my
direction
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
leadership
and
a
lot
of
heat
to
not
go
with
something
that
you've
just
are
not
comfortable
with
everything.
So
it
does
take
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
personal
heat.
It
does
take
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
leadership
to
be
able
to
do
that.
I
don't
take
away
from
those
that
worked
on
this.
B
Commissioner
Ferrara
knows
this,
and
this
is
a
very
accurate
statement
that
we,
you
know
from
time
to
time,
will
disagree
on
on
resolutions,
but
on
the
big
picture
of
things
we
don't
we
treat
each
other
with
dignity
and
respect
and
that
that
will
continue.
However,
I,
don't
know
why
we
I
know
that
the
county
manager
has
in
that
our
Health
Department
has
already
been
working
towards
the
thought
of
testing
and
trying
to
find
you
know.
How
can
we
do
that?
Is
it
possible
or
facet
of
it?
B
H
B
Yeah
and
the
other
thing
to
commute
chairman
said
it,
you
know
and
Commissioner
pennilyn
said
it
is
it.
You
know
what
other
things
what
we
planning
on
on
discussing
you
know
today
was
there
other
things
that
we
need
to
discuss,
because
people
are
asking,
you
know
how
do
we
protect
the
most
vulnerable?
How
do
we,
you
know
our
nursing
homes,
secure,
I,
I
hope
they
are
I,
get
that
all
the
time
I
want
to
know
about
that.
B
B
Comparing
to
these
larger
retails,
you
know:
how
do
we
look
at
that
and
how
do
we
look
at
some
things
that
make
sense
and
I
don't
think
we
can
just
do
that
at
the
county
level.
I've
talked
to
you
know:
people
from
the
state.
You
know
two
or
three
times
you
know
this
this
week
in
trying
to
find
out.
Where
is
the,
whereas
you
know
the
House
and
Senate
and
the
governor
and
all
of
them
were
they
were
they
at
well?
B
Can
we
expect
to
come
our
way
so
that
we
can
make
good
decisions
when
it
comes
here
on
you
know,
do
we
want
to
align
ourselves
specifically
with
with
the
state
guidance
up?
You
know,
Buncombe
County,
Mecklenburg
County.
You
know
some
County
I
mean
we're
different
than
another
companies,
one
of
the
things
that
makes
us
different,
and
you
know
everybody
knows
it.
You
know,
as
we
have
an
air
you
know,
we
have
an
airport,
we.
E
A
Part
of
what
it
says
you
know,
I
think
you
know
in
some
pretty
high
level,
I
mean
it's
not
I,
don't
think
it's
you
know
micromanaging.
This
is
really
talking
about
a
planning
process,
but
you
know
it
does
talk
about
I'm.
Sorry,
I
just
lost
my
place
item
G.
You
know
developing
protocols
for
utilizing
testing
as
part
of
an
overall
plan
for
safely
reopening
the
economy
and
community.
So
that
is
part
of
what
I
think
we're
trying
to
kind
of
and
again
our
staff
are
doing
a
great
job.
They
know
they.
A
A
You
know
there
might
be
some
direction
more
direction
from
the
from
the
federal
level
or
might
not
be
we
just
don't
know
yet
so
so
we
have
put
in
place
these
protocols
and
you
know-
and
it
seems
pretty
clear-
there's
not
just
going
to
become
some
date
on
the
calendar
where
everything
goes
back
to
normal.
We
know
it's
gonna,
be
you
know
a
business
sector
by
business
sector
approach
where
some
things
can
have
start
happening
sooner
than
others.
Some
kind
of
public
gatherings
will
become.
A
A
Me
around
those
different
ideas,
but
then
again
not
to
just
kind
of
reiterate
this,
but
part
of
as
I've
thought
about
these
questions
as
part
of
what
I
just
keep
coming
back
to
it's
like.
We
know
we
have
the
remainder
of
this
month
where
we're
under
a
state
order,
even
if
we
had
no
order
in
Buncombe,
County
and
many
people
believe
it's
highly
likely.
The
state
order
will
be
extended.
A
I
For
me,
I
think
it
makes
sense.
I
know
it
says
short
and
long-term
plans,
I,
don't
think
those
can
be
done
in
silos.
I,
don't
think
you
develop
a
short-term
plan
and
then
a
long-term
I
mean
I
think
those
are
often
thought
of
in
very
parallel
ways
that
often
cross
and
intersect
with
each
other
that
you're
looking
okay
long
term,
but
they
to
me
they
say
they
go
together
in
many
ways
when
you're
working
on
a
plan,
I
think
this
could
even
be
taken
further
I
mean
one
thing
we
haven't
addressed
is
okay.
I
Let's
say
we
do
these
things
and
we
start
to
loosen
restrictions
and
we
see
an
increase
in
kovat
19
positive
tests.
How
do
we
start
to
pull
back
again?
I
mean
to
me:
that's
that's
missing
and
maybe
that's
gonna
be
part
of
the
short
and
long
term
planning
is.
When
do
we
have
a
trigger
that
says?
We've
gone
too
far
in
loosening
these
I
think
our
community
is
looking
to
us
as
elected
leaders,
not
elected
officials
in
this
time,
and
that
means
making
hard
as
I
said
last
week.
I
B
Commissioner
Edwards
I
would
agree
with
you
on
your
last
point
as
to
part
of
our
discussion
needs
to
include
that.
Let's
say
that
the
state,
it's
a
state
level
that
they
decide
to
take
small
retail
and
apply
the
same
restrictions,
its
large
retail,
which
is
you
know,
five
people
for
every
thousand
square
feet
and
they
decide
that
that
at
this
time
they
believe
that
is
safe.
If
it's
done,
you
know
with
proper
distancing
and-
and
they
have
ways
where
they
have.
B
You
know
put
that
out
and
it
seems
to
certainly
working
at
the
grocery
store
that
I
go
to.
But
so
what
happens?
If
we
do
some
of
those
things
and
it
takes
back
up,
we
have
to
have
the
ability
to
be
able
to
either
back
up
to
a
previous
order
or
pull
back
and
I.
Think
that
those
are
those
are
things
that
we've
actually
had
discussions
about,
maybe
as
individuals
and
as
we
as
we
as
we
think
through
this
I
think
increasing
testing.
B
If
we
have
the
ability
to
get
it,
the
tests
you
know,
is
not
a
bad
idea
at
all,
but
I
don't
think
it's
inclusive
of
everything
that
we
that
we
that
we
need
to
do
and
that
that
discussion
would
I
thought.
That's
what
we
were
going
to
discuss
today
and
direct
staff
to
do
or
look
at
either
align
ourselves
closer
with
the
state
and
some
some
things
that
are
forthcoming
or
currently
and
seeking
outlets
for
testing
developing
costs
associated
with
us,
those
testings.
B
But
what
all
I'm
saying
is
that
we
have
been
able
to
do
this
in
the
past
without
creating
a
resolution
that
makes
us
either
stand
on
one
side
or
the
other
to
be
able
to
do
it,
which
is
which
we
shouldn't
have
to
do
to
be
able
to
just
direct
staff
to
seek
out
testing
costs
associated
with
testing.
How
much
would
it
cost
to
test
all
of
our
nursing
homes
immediately?
I
I
believe
for
this
resolution
way
wrong.
We
believe,
as
in
leadership
roles,
you're,
always
looking
two
three
four
steps
ahead
of
where
you
are,
and
this
particular
piece
on
what
happens.
We
have
to
pull
back.
That's
part
of
that
steps,
two
three
and
four
ahead
of
where
we
currently
are
with
this
particular
resolution,
but.
B
I
J
C
J
Thing
is
that
we
all
we
all
agree
upon
that
much
and
we've
got
to
do
it
for
the
long-term
health
of
our
citizens
and
and
our
County.
The
the
the
the
issue
at
hand,
is
the
fact
that,
yes,
this
is
phase
two.
This
is
phase
three
and
and
I
believe
that,
maybe
just
maybe
our
staff
has
done
a
great
job.
I
mean
not.
You
know
our
entire
staff,
dr.
Moreland
or
Fletch,
and
those
houses.
F
B
J
Tell
you
they
need
that's
another
discussion,
what
they
need,
but
the
thing
is,
though,
is
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we,
as
Commission
are
a
part
of
this,
so
if
today
we
would
have
been
talking
about
phase
two
and
then
we
put
that
wording
into
a
resolution
if
we
had
to
meet
next
Monday
to
pass
the
resolution
and
that's
it
because
if
we
know
we're
in
unprecedented
times
well,
what's
phase
three
going
to
look
like
well,
this
is
a
commission.
These
are
questions
that
we're
being
asked.
J
When
are
you
going
to
open
up
the
dog
parlors?
When
are
you
going
to
do
this?
Well,
if
you
look
at
this,
it's
not
until
we
can
figure
out
how
to
test
everybody
or
at
least
have
community
testing,
and
how
long
is
that
going
to
take?
Those
are
things
we
don't
know,
but
those
are
questions
that
we
are
getting
and
so
I
just
think
that
we
as
a
commission.
Yes,
we
should
have
been
able
to
discuss
today.
Let
staff
go
out,
see
what
that
comes
back.
J
J
But
that's
that's
things
that
we
should
be
doing,
but
this
because
one
of
us
up
here
doesn't
support
this
resolution
does
not
mean
we
don't
support,
reopen
the
economy
and
being
the
leaders
that
we
want
to
be
and
making
sure
that
the
quality
of
life
for
our
citizens
is
protected,
whether
it
be
for
the
covet
night
team
testing
or
making
sure
that
we
have
people
who
are
getting
their
jobs
back.
Their
quality
of
life
is
our
ultimate
gold.
Every.
How
that
looks
is
where
we
got
to
be
focused,
whether
we
support
or
not,
support
I.
J
E
D
Are
paddling
through
very
you
knows,
classified
rapids,
it's
a
crisis
situation
and
there
are
moments
when
you
have
to
make
kind
of
decisive
decisions
about
which
way
to
paddle
and
to
me
we're
at
one
of
those
moments,
just
as
we
were
a
month
ago
when
we
could
have
unstated
the
local
state
of
emergency
on
a
Tuesday
and
instead
the
timeline
got
accelerated
to
a
Thursday
again
I
learned
about
it
on
Facebook
I'm.
Fine.
With
that,
that's
what
needed
to
happen.
It
was
the
right
call.
D
Similarly,
our
staff
has
done
a
tremendous
job
anticipating
how
quickly
we
needed
to
move
on
implementing
stay
home
orders
and
and
keeping
us
frankly,
a
few
steps
ahead
of
many
communities.
Many
other
communities
and
I
think
that's
benefited
the
residents
of
Buncombe
County,
and
what
this
does
is
says.
This
is
a
direction
we're
heading
in
all.
The
data
we
see
from
around
the
world
shows
that
increased
testing
and
the
protocols
around
that
increased
contact,
tracing
access
to
isolation
are
really
not
just
the
best,
but
potentially
the
only
way
so
quickly
and
safely
reopen
the
economy.
D
D
J
I'm,
not
gonna,
I'm
gonna
disagree
with
you.
The
thing
is,
though,
shutting
down
the
County
at
the
beginning.
If
we
learned
about
it
on
Wednesday,
and
it
happened
on
Friday,
that's
different
than
trying
to
reopen
and
make
sure
we're
doing,
testing.
There's
just
there's
this.
There
could've
been
a
better
process
with
this,
the
emergency
of
shutting
this
county
down,
I'm
telling
you
if
it
that's,
that's
totally
different
than
we're
talking
about
here
today.
J
D
We're
saying
we're
gonna
reopen
our
businesses
when
it's
safe
to
do
that
in
the
only
way
to
know
when
it's
safe
to
do
that
is
to
significantly
increase
access
to
testing
and
contact
tracing.
That
is
the
only
safe
way
to
do
it,
and
if
we
want
to
quickly
reopen
our
businesses,
then
we
need
to
as
quickly
as
possible,
be
in
the
planning
process
on
how
to
get
local
tests
available
at
the
scale
and
volume
we
need.
So
that's
what
this
is
saying
absolutely
is.
J
Question
who's
being
tested
and
if
my
doctor
says
I,
don't
want
you
tested
because
you
don't
that's
this
way,
it's
going
to
be.
Are
we
going
to
sit
here
and
keep
this
economy
shut
down?
Because
we
have
our
medical
professionals
saying
these
are
people
we
won't
test
it?
These
are
people,
we
don't
won't
test
it.
Let's.
D
Stop
for
a
second
when
you
are,
but
everything
about
Public,
Health
and
medicine
says
if
you're
asymptomatic,
for
a
condition.
The
first
thing
that
would
happen
is
you'd
be
tested.
Now,
we've
been
operating
under
extreme
conditions
where
we
haven't
had
access
to
testing,
so
medical
professionals
have
had
to
make
wrenching
decisions
about
how
to
create
narrow
enough
criteria
so
that
those
most
likely
to
be
sick
or
sickest
get
testing.
But
every
doctor
you
talk
to
every
public
health
expert
talk
to
would
say
if
there
is
a
way
to
test.
D
We
should
and
that's
the
premise
of
this,
so
what
doctors
are
having
to
say
right
now.
Is
we
can't
test?
So
we
can
only
test
this
narrow
population
of
people
and
what
this
is
about
is
as
moving
as
quickly
as
possible
to
a
time
in
our
community,
when
we
have
access
to
the
volume
of
tests
and
the
type
of
tests
that
we
can
be
testing.
D
Ideally
all
symptomatic
people
to
start,
and
then
we
see
in
other
parts
of
the
world
that
they've
had
the
volume
of
tests
that
they
can
move
into
testing
asymptomatic
people
to
to
determine,
if
they're
carriers
and
then
also
the
antibody
testing.
Once
that's
available,
my
to
me
it's
sort
of
like
if
we
were
in
a
we
are
in
an
emergency
situation
and
we
know
we
have
to
make
quick
decisions
about
what
happens
next,
and
this
is
about
elevating
this
and
saying
this
is
what
we
need
to
be
focusing
on.
First
and
foremost,.
A
Here
you
know
again:
it's
gonna
be
a
long
time
before
we
ever
get
to
anything
close
to
an
ideal
testing
kind
of
system
because
of
the
you
know,
supplies
change,
shortages
and
things
like
that
and
the
technology
not
being
anywhere
close
to
perfect
things
like
that.
So
we
don't
have
to
get
to
perfect
before
we
start
opening
up
different
parts
of
the
economy.
Again,
I
think
this
will
be.
This
will
be
an
incremental
process
of
scaling
up
testing,
I,
think
the
resumption
of
business
activities
and
school
and
community
things
will
also
be
incremental.
A
I
think
there
are
some
things
that,
based
on
our
you
know,
mercifully
low
numbers,
so
you
know
I,
probably
be
comfortable
supporting
expanding.
You
know
soon,
but
I
think
for
the
broad
reopening
of
community
activities
and
business
I.
Just
think
this
is
so
essential.
I
mean
just
before
I
came
over
here
this
morning,
I
read
about
one
of
the
Accu
more
which
one
it
was,
but
one
of
the
one
of
the
airline
companies
is
requiring
testing
every
passenger.
A
Let's
just
think
about
how
how
logical
that
is
right,
they're
testing,
every
passenger,
so
it
cost
a
little
bit
of
money
to
do
that,
but
and
I
come
from
a
family
of
airline
pilots.
My
dad's
a
pilot,
my
brother's
a
pilot,
my
granddad's,
a
pilot
I
would
not
go
put
my
family
on
an
airplane
right
now.
Would
you
fly
on
an
airplane
right
now?
Would
you
get
in
an
airplane
and
fly
across
this
country
for
four
or
five
hours
in
a
constrained
you
know
space
not
knowing
are.
A
There
are
other
people
in
this
plane
that
have
cope
in
nineteen.
We
will
absolutely
whether
the
government
says
planes
can
fly
or
not,
and
the
government's
never
said
the
planes
can't
fly
in
this
country.
That
industry
has
been
destroyed
because
we
don't
do
testing
right
and
who
is
gonna,
go
out
and
eat
in
our
fantastic
restaurants
in
this
community.
If
they're
wondering
I
wonder
if
the
people
who
work
here
are
they
are
they
sick,
reckless
and
they
might
be,
they
might
have
köppen
nineteen,
even
though
they
feel
perfectly
healthy.
A
I,
just
firmly
believe
that
this
is
so
important
to
opening
the
economy.
Back
regardless
of
where
the
government
restrictions
are,
you
know,
the
studies
right
now
show
that
even
in
the
ten
states
in
our
country
that
have
not
put
one
restriction
in
place,
you
know
things
slowed
down
there
after
other
places
because
they
didn't
have
the
know,
the
local
or
state
government
saying
hey
folks,
we
got
a,
we
got
a
got
to
stop
right
now.
A
A
A
H
A
It's
just
been
one
of
these
places
where
we
as
a
country
have
not
gotten
this
right
yet
I
mean
the
recommendations
that
I've
come
down
have
been
wrong
and
it's
been
up
to
states
and
communities
to
say:
that's
not
right.
We've
got
a
we've
got
to
do
it
differently
on
this
yeah
and
and
and
I
wish
it
wasn't
that
way.
But
that's
just
that's
just
the
situation
that
we're
in
right.
H
But
I
guess
my
question
and
the
only
question
is:
is
this
right
here
gonna
start
our
County
community
of
going
forward
this
right
here
of
sign
if
it's
six
one
five,
two
four
three
or
whatever
it's
going
to
get
past.
If
we
vote
on
it,
which
we
can't
vote
on
it,
because
the
motion
does
not
say
to
take
number
two
out.
So
it's
going
to
have
to
have
a
new
motion
to
do
that,
because
I.
A
H
That
we
go
my
suggestion
is
this
resolution
is
a
piece
of
paper
just
saying
what
we
want
and
we
our
staff.
Thank
you
a
great
job
from
way
more
than
what
was
ever
expected
thank
y'all.
But
let's
let
our
staff
they've
heard
all
this
bring
something
together
for
us
Tuesday
for
us
to
say
how
many
tests
are
going
to
be
available
next
week.
The
elderly,
the
first
responders,
are
going
to
get
first
choice.
Our
idea
is
to
open,
as
in
think
commissioner
belts
are
said,
five
people
per
thousand
square
feet
building.
H
You
know
that
is
and
I
don't
want
to
say
this
wrong.
Our
staff
is
very
talented
in
every
aspect
of
the
work
you
do.
You've
heard
our
concern.
Now
you
should
bring
that
back
to
us
for
what
we're
going
to
do
and
not
a
resolution,
because
a
resolution
is
what's
going
to
happen.
We
sign
one
then,
as
a
board
of
seven
people
are
not
going
to
continue
on
with
what
is
in
here.
H
There's
too
many
different
things
in
here
and
that's
where
I
met
and
I
really
would
like
for
staff
to
take
note
what
we've
said
and
Tuesday
or
if
we
have
a
meeting
Saturday
I
can
meet
every
day.
I
know
we
need
48
hours,
but
now
we
need
to
let
our
staff
decide.
What
is
next
on
this
signing
your
name
on
this
and
saying
it
was
five
to
two
or
whatever
is
not
getting
it
started
so.
B
Is
it
is
that
why
wouldn't
that
be
possible,
chairman
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
a!
You
know.
We've
had
a
pretty
good
discussion
on
this
and
it's
really
all
been
around
the
fact
that
it's
it's
a
resolution
and
that
there's
some
concern
about
section
G.
Where
it
it
does
say
that
that
testing
could
be
a
requirement
for
reopening
a
business.
But
if
we
took
some
of
this
information
and
staff
came
back
said,
hey
here's,
what
we're
recommending
here's,
what
we'd
love
to
see?
Here's,
what
we're
hearing
from
the
Commission
here's!
A
So
so
there's
any
number
of
different
ways.
Things
can
be
done
sure,
right
and
I
think
we
just
I
I'm,
just
I'm,
genuinely
surprised
that
there's
not
I
thought
I
thought
there
would
be
so
I
got
that
wrong
and
and-
and
you
know,
live
and
learn.
I
just
did
not
think
that
resolution
supporting
expansion
of
community
testing
on
COBE,
19
I,
just
didn't
see,
didn't
see
that
being
controversial.
So.
G
A
C
A
Process
we
can,
you
know
if
we
don't
agree
on
things
it's
alright,
we
can.
We
can.
We
can
move
on,
but
I
I
still
do.
There's
a
motion
and
there's
a
second
on
the
table
to
approve
the
resolution
for
clarification
for
the
people
who
made
the
motion.
Does
your
motion
include
the
number
two
budget
item
or
or
not?
No?
A
A
A
G
So,
as
chairman
Newman
referenced
earlier,
staff
did
have
plans
to
bring
forward
a
budget
amendment
for
the
upcoming
Tuesday
meeting,
due
to
the
relevance
of
today's
conversation
and
that
was
brought
forward.
But
what
we
do
want
to
provide
to
you
today
before
we
get
into
the
details
of
that
request.
G
We
wanted
to
provide
you
with
an
update
with
regards
to
the
prior
appropriation
of
$500,000
on
March
17th,
for
expenditures
that
were
related
to
kovat
19
response
efforts.
As
of
the
end
of
business
yesterday,
there
is
four
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
four
hundred
and
ninety
two
dollars
that
has
either
been
obligated
for
spending
or
has
been
spent
out
of
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
appropriation.
So
that's
ninety
three
point:
seven
percent
wanted
to
be
able
to
highlight
to
use
some
of
the
primary
areas
in
the
categories
of
spending
or
obligated
funds.
G
Was
the
u.s.
foods
order
for
to-go
containers
and
bags
for
schools,
additional
disinfecting
and
gloves,
and
then
the
office
food
and
provisions
has
been
for
isolation
and
Quarantine
meals
and
EEOC,
so
just
wanted
to
provide
you
all
with
an
update.
So
given
the
status
of
that
current
obligation
or
spending,
our
plan
was
to
come
forward
to
make
the
request
of
you
for
an
additional
in
the
budget,
amendment
outlines
$500,000
toward
continued
preparation
and
planning
towards
the
pandemic
response
for
emergency
operations.
So
that's
the
first
item
that
is
proposed
in
the
budget
amendment.
G
A
So
so
this
is
documenting
how
how
funds
have
been
invested,
and
thank
you
for
that.
So
in
terms
of
the
additional
funding,
it's
not
like
a
detailed
line
item
because
again
we're
kind
of
moving
into
this
arena
where
things
are
coming
up,
we're
having
to
be
adaptive
and
invest
in
things
that
we
identify
as
being
beneficial
to
kovat
response.
So
just
just
to
kind
of
say
out
loud.
We
are
kind
of
giving
pretty
broad
discretion
over
how
to
use
it
in
the
context
of
the
Copa
19
response
efforts
and.
G
That
definitely
would
have
been.
You
know
our
original
plan
to
come
in
with
that
generalized
overall
request,
so
that
we,
you
know,
aren't
tied
to
specific
expenditures
so
that
we
can
continue
to
do
planning
at
our
best
and
I
would
certainly
leave
that
to
your
discretion
today.
If
you
wanted
to,
you
know,
specify
a
certain
amount
of
money
out
of
that
five
hundred
thousand
for
any
specific
items.
We
can
certainly
take
direction
on
that
as
well.
No.
A
I
personally,
I
mean
again
it's
kind
of
like
we
have
to
do
things
a
little
bit
differently
like
what
makes
sense
to
do
now
is
not
what
makes
sense
to
do
during
normal
times
and
right
now,
I
think
the
flexibility
is
very
much
warranted
just
so
that
we
can
be
responsive
and
adaptive
based
on
what
opportunities
and
needs
come
up.
So
I'm
I'm,
certainly
comfortable
with
that.
Any.
E
G
The
second
portion
of
the
budget
amendment
is
a
dollar
amount
of
two
hundred
and
thirty,
two
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
for
consideration
for
the
purchase
of
a
new
ambulance
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year.
21
budget
request
emergency
services
requested
to
replacement
trucks
in
recent
weeks
to
additionally.
So
two
ambulances
have
been
unexpectedly
out
of
service
due
to
mechanical
issues.
This,
coupled
with
a
need
to
be
as
prepared
as
possible
for
potential
increased
volume
necessitated
by
academic
response.
We
are
requesting
to
purchase
one
of
those
ambulances.
G
Now
current
estimates
for
the
new
ambulance,
delivery
for
a
new
ambulance
purchase
could
be
anywhere
from
six
to
eight
months.
Our
emergency
services
director
taylor
jones
has
been
able
to
locate
an
ambulance
that
has
been
a
demonstration
only
ambulance
at
a
regional
dealership.
So
that's
the
second
portion
of
this
request
for
a
total
dollar
amount
of
appropriation
of
seven
hundred
and
thirty,
two
thousand
dollar,
seven
hundred
and
thirty,
two
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars.
A
And
so
so
around
planning
efforts
around
testing,
there's
not
a
specific
line
item
for
it,
but
if
we
appropriate
these
additional
funds-
and
there
is
a
need
to
for
whatever
financial
resources
to
do
some
additional
planning
or
even
to
take
some
additional
steps,
then
those
funds
would
be
eligible
for
that,
but
it's
they'll
be
addressing
a
broad
array
of
needs
at
the
county
level.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
A
A
A
A
J
Like
to
comment,
please
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
I
am
NOT
against
testing
I'm,
not
against
community
testing.
I
know
we
need
it
and
I
know
we
got
to
do
this.
The
only
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
way
it's
written
who's
testing,
who
who's
response
for
testing
folks
who
are
going
back
to
work
and
it's
a
burden
fall
to
the
county
to
pay
for
the
tests
provide
the
tests.
J
Those
are
the
questions
that
I
think
we
should
have
tried
to
somewhat
answer
before
we
went
into
something
like
this,
because
those
that
leaves
us
wide
open
to
saying
well,
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
a
restaurant
unless
somebody's
tested
who
test
who's,
doing
the
testing
the
people
who
own
the
restaurant,
the
insurance
who
the
people
may
work
for
or
is
it
kind
of
gonna
do
it?
And
if
it's
us
is
the
funds
there,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear
not
against
it.
I.
A
F
B
E
B
C
prepare
strategy
to
secure
access
to
antibody,
testing
and
F
expand
prevention.
Early
detection,
efforts
among
high-risk
individuals
and
age
seek
collaborations
with
entities
including,
but
not
limited
to
Institute's,
yes,
etcetera,
etcetera
and
I
would
add.
The
private
and
I
would
add
private
private
sector
in
that
in
number
age,
and
that
would
be
my
friendly
amendment
and
I
would
support
that
in
its
entirety
respectfully
submitted
to
Commissioner
white
sighs.
B
F
H
G
H
H
A
A
B
A
Comi,
I'm
and
I'm
on
my
commotion
to
support
the
amendment,
the
the
goodness,
the
ambulance,
that's
the
one
that
we
discussed.
We
discussed
last
time,
yes
and
that
I
don't
remember
what
happened.
Why
we
couldn't
do
it
the
last
time
but
I
was
in
in
favor
of
it
and
I
think
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
acquire
one
and
save
some
money.
I
would
certainly
like
to
hear
from
Commissioner.
B
J
This
is
a
demo
Emmet's
out
of
West
Jefferson
North
Carolina.
If
you've
ever
been
into
the
business
of
building
out
animals
and
fire
trucks,
it
takes
a
long
time
to
get
those
things
so
anytime,
you
could
get
a
demo
I
believe
this
is
actually
going
to
replace
two
animals
as
well.
We
have
two
amps
right
now
that
keep
breaking
down
mm-hmm
and
whatever
those
animals
I
believe
is
a
decent
one
of
our
old
diesel
fleets
that
so
I
think
this
is
to
help
replace
those.
A
Okay,
there's
a
motion
for
mr.
Belcher
second
from
Commissioner
Penland
for
a
budget
amendment
of
seventy
seven
hundred
thirty,
two
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
total
any
further
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right,
miss
upendra,
I,
don't
believe.
There's
anything
else
we
needed
to
cover
today.