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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Special Meeting (Feb. 16, 2021)
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At this special meeting the Board conducts interviews for County board vacancies.
A
B
C
And
we've
got
just
a
few
questions:
we're
going
to
ask
the
different
applicants
who
are
applied
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
to
today.
So
should
just
take
a
few
minutes.
So,
thanks
for
being
here-
and
I
think
commissioner
wells
is
going
to
get
us
started.
D
Well,
I
spent
six
years
working
for
the
u.s
house
of
representatives
in
the
office
of
congressman
schuler,
and
it
was
our
job
every
day
to
listen
to
the
concerns
and
the
needs
of
the
citizens
of
the
11th
congressional
district
and
go
out
and
find
answers
for
them
find
solutions
for
their
problems.
If
we
could
and
to
be
honest
with
them
about
what
those
solutions
could
or
couldn't
do
or
if
there
weren't
any
solutions
to
be
honest
with
them
about
that,
I
believe
everybody
has
a
right
to
be
heard.
D
That
doesn't
mean
everybody
has
a
right
to
have
their
way
and
no
matter
who
the
constituents
are,
who
the
applicants
are.
D
F
And
hey
randy,
thanks
for
coming
thanks
for
your
willingness
to
serve.
As
you
know,
we
live
in
a
really
fast
growing
community
and
that
we
expect
that
growth
to
to
continue,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
what
the
phrase
responsible
growth
means
to
you
and
how
we
best
responsibly,
change
and
grow
over
time.
D
Well,
I
I
think
that
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
I
haven't-
I
haven't
seen
these
questions
before
now.
So
please
forgive
me.
D
To
me,
the
phrase
responsible
growth
means
what
the
definition
of
responsible
is.
We
we
can't
asheville
is
a
and
and
western
north
carolina,
asheville
and
buncombe
county
in
particular,
though
especially
asheville,
is,
is
filled
with
so
many
different
ideas
about
how
we
should
address
the
future
and
the
present
as
well
and
and
and
we
we
sometimes
in
my
opinion,
we
we
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
bathwater
by
reacting
to
to
personal
agendas
and
personal
bias.
D
G
Hi,
mr
flack,
thank
you
for
your
time
today.
You've
spoken
to
this
a
little
bit,
but
can
you
just
share
with
us
how
you
how
you
approach,
making
really
tough
decisions,
where
you
know
someone's
going
to
walk
away
unhappy
with
result.
D
Well,
you
know:
that's
something
we
worked
on
hard
in
the
congressman's
office
is
having
to
make
tough
decisions
and
and
trying
to
get
people
to
live
with
it.
I
believe
that
when
you
do
things
in
a
responsible
manner,
and
you
do
it
in
an
open
way
that
that
I'm
not
I'm
the
chairman's
not
calling
me
as
a
member
of
any
board
or
thing
and
saying
this
is
what
you
got
to
do
or
any
of
the
members
here
calls
and
says
this
is
what
we
need
for
the
county.
D
C
All
right,
randy,
one
of
the
question
we
had
is
you
know
we're
starting.
The
county
commission
has
approved
the
development
of
a
new
comprehensive
plan
for
the
county,
and
that's
going
to
be
a
big
undertaking.
It's
going
to
take
quite
a
while
to
do
it,
the
planning
board
will
be.
You
know
real
involved
in
that
and
so,
but
because
it
will
be
quite
a
lengthy
process.
C
You
know
some
folks
are
raising
questions
and
ideas
about
well,
there
might
be
some
things
we
need
to
put
in
place
from
a
planning
standpoint
before
the
comprehensive
plan
is
completely
finished,
because
that
is
going
to
take
such
a
long
time
just
wanted
to
ask
if
there
are
any
particular
policies,
you
think
the
planning
board
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
that.
You
know
might
be
more
appropriate
to
adopt
as
sort
of
stand-alone
policies
in
the
short-term
or
rather
than
waiting
for
the
passage
of
the
whole
comprehensive
plan.
D
Well,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
that's
kind
of
a
tough
question.
I
don't
I'm
not
I'm
not
intimately
acquainted
with
the
policies
and
procedures
of
the
planning
board,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
it
has
been
my
experience
in
life
that
decisions
are
made
the
same
way,
no
matter
whether
you're
on
a
planning
board
or
whether
you're
on
the
county
commission
or
whether
you're
running
a
family.
D
D
It's
no
different
and
you
need
to
listen
to
everybody
and
you
need
to
to
make
have
an
open
and
honest
assessment
of
what
the
needs
are
and
how
they
can
best
be
addressed
using
the
information
that
you
have
and
that
you're
willing
to
receive
from
all
entities
and
make
the
best
decision
you
can
make
for
the
future
of
you
know.
I
live
in
the
county,
so
I'm
a
county
guy.
D
You
make
the
best
decision
you
can
for
the
people
of
asheville
and
for
the
people
of
buncombe
county.
I
think
an
excellent
example
of
poor
terrible
planning
is
what's
happening
on
the
I-26
corridor.
D
You
know
we
come
up
with
a
plan
using
the
best
information
we
can
get
and
then
somebody
else
says
no,
we're
gonna.
Do
it
this
way
and
you
change
it.
You
have
to
make
a
decision
and
not
and
not
get
involved
in
personalities
and
then
and
then
personal
politics
and
make
decisions
based
on
what's
best
for
everybody,
and
it
can't
be
great
for
everybody,
but
it
has
to
be
what's
best
for
everybody.
C
Okay,
great
and
the
the
last
question
we
had
is
just
is
there
anything
that
you
want
to
tell
us
that
we
haven't
asked
about
already
anything
else
you
wanted
to
to
share
with
us,
while
we're
here.
D
And,
unlike
some
people
who
stand
at
this
podium,
I'm
here
to
praise
you,
I
don't.
I
don't
agree
with
everybody
on
this
commission
politically,
I'm
a
democrat
and
I'm
not
ashamed
to
say
it.
But
I
don't
agree
with
everything
that
democrats
do.
I
don't
agree
with
everything
that
the
republicans
do,
but
I
will
tell
you
this:
I'm
68
years
old,
two
weeks
ago
I
went
to
a
b
tech
and
got
my
first
coveted
shot
and
it
could
not
have
been
been
done
in
a
more
professional
and
easy
to
go
through
process.
D
I
don't
know
how
involved
y'all
were
with
that,
but
people
who
worked
for
you
were-
and
I
was
there-
maybe
25,
minutes
and
and
15
of
those
was
waiting
after
I
got
the
shot
to
see
if
I
had
any
reaction
right,
so
I
can't
think
of
a
lot
of
good
y'all
do
sometimes,
but
that's
that's
something
that
y'all
y'all
did
a
great
job
on
well.
C
We
appreciate
that
randy
and
we're
really
you
know.
Most
of
the
credit
definitely
goes
to
the
county
staff
and
employees
in
the
health
department
and
the
people
who
work
here
every
day
we
try
to
do
what
we
can
to
support
them,
but
we're
really
proud
of
the
work
we're
doing,
and
we
appreciate
you
acknowledging
that
it's
a
it's
one
of
the
really
important
things
that's
happening
this
year
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
do
the
best
job
we
possibly
can
on
it.
So
that's.
D
Okay-
and
let
me
just
add,
if
I
can,
mr
chairman,
that
you
know
I've
had
I've
had
lots
of
opportunity
to
serve
I've.
You
know
I've
served
with
the
congress
and
I
served
with
the
county
and
and
other
things.
It's
not
gonna
break
my
heart.
If
I
don't
get
to
do
this,
but
I
but
I
do
hope-
and
it
is
my
ins
absolute.
D
Desire
that
you
appoint
people
who
will
treat
people
fairly
and
who
will
not
bring
bias
and
will
not
listen
to
the
voice
of
the
of
a
mob
or
that
will
do
things
fairly
and
make
everybody
know
that
at
least
they
were
heard
and
the
decisions
were
made
without
ignoring
the
people
who
who
who
we
serve.
That's
that's
my
desire
that
you
choose
someone
who
does
that.
If
it's
me
it's
okay,
it's
not
me.
Please
get
somebody
that
that's
that's
their!
That's
their
mission.
D
C
C
We're
ready,
yeah
we're
ready,
we
get
started
early,
you
know,
after.
I
I
C
We're
doing
great,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
this
afternoon,
we're
doing
short
interviews
with
each
of
the
applicants
for
the
city
planning
board
and
we've
got
a
couple
other
boards,
we're
also
filling
vacancies
for
today
as
well.
So
it
should
just
take
a
few
minutes,
and
commissioner,
terry
wells
is
going
to
ask
our
first
question.
Okay,.
E
J
Thanks
for
having
me
here
today
great
to
see
everybody
well,
I
have
lived
in
asheville
now,
six
and
a
half
years.
I
bought
a
home
six
months
after
being
here,
pretty
tied
to
the
community
went
to
app.
My
brothers
lived
here
for
a
long
time,
go
up
and
down
the
mountain
to
see
each
other.
I
live
in
south
asheville,
so
I
go
up
and
down
hendersonville
road
every
single
day
and
because
I
work
in
east
asheville
at
the
mall.
J
So
I'm
on
two
of
the
busiest
corridors
in
town
every
single
day,
five
days
a
week,
so
I
think
I
would
be
able
to
bring
the
experience
of
knowledge
of
both
of
those
areas
to
this
board
also
prior
to
living
in
asheville.
I
lived
in
san
diego
for
10
years
and
I
was
the
vice
chair
of
the
downtown
economic
development
council
there.
J
F
Thanks
jennifer
thanks
for
your
willingness
to
serve
sure
another
question
for
you.
As
you
know,
in
your
years
here,
the
the
county
and
the
city
are
growing
a
lot
and
we
expect
that
to
continue
for
the
years
to
come.
So
I
have
a
very
basic
question
for
you.
When
you
hear
the
phrase
responsible
growth,
what
does
that?
Does
that
conjure
to
your
mind?
What
does
that
make
you
think
of.
J
Well,
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
the
housing
crisis
that
we
definitely
have
in
this
in
this
city
right
now,
there's
so
many
people
who
are
in
this
area
that
aren't
able
to
afford
a
home.
So
I
just
recently
read
an
article
over
the
weekend
that
the
california
housing
crisis
is
is
leaving
and
it's
coming
to
other
areas.
J
I
think
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
people
like
who
work
for
me
who
are
making
you
know
ten
dollars
an
hour
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
that
those
people
are
able
to
not
only
buy
a
house
but
also
just
pay
their
rent,
because
I
know
that
their
rent
is
going
astronomically
towards
their
whole.
J
Paycheck
is
going
towards
their
rent,
so
not
only
to
like,
have
affordable
housing,
but
to
also
have
affordable
housing,
mixed-use
housing,
so
that
when
you
see
a
mixed
development
go
in
somewhere
that
you
also
have
like
a
cvs
or
a
target
somewhere
in
there,
so
that
people
aren't
having
to
get
on
the
bus
and
also
like
go
all
the
way
to
east
asheville
to
go
to
do
their
shopping.
When
I
lived
in
california,
I
was,
I
lived
in
affordable
housing
and
it
was
great
because
there
was
like
a
cvs
downtown.
J
There
was
a
target
downtown
and
all
of
those
things
were
brought
in
by
the
economic
development
council.
So
people
fight
you
on
those
things,
but
also
like
you
have
to
be
able
to
know
like.
J
I
live
off
of
haywood
road,
so
if
anybody's
ever
been
down
to
south
asheville
and
you've
seen
hillwood
road
like
there's
just
in
the
last
six
years
that
I've
owned,
my
house
there's
the
growth,
it
needs
a
sidewalk,
I
mean
so
many
more
people
are
working
and
stuff.
So
that's
what
it
means
to
me.
G
Thanks
so
much
for
your
time
today,
can
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
how
you
approach,
making
tough
decisions,
where
you
know
someone's
gonna
walk
away,
feeling
like
they
didn't
get
what
they
wanted?
Oh.
J
Yeah
I
mean
definitely
like
I'm
a
I'm,
a
manager
at
work,
so
making
tough
decisions
every
day
like
whether
somebody
calls
you
and
they
say
I
don't
have
a.
I
don't-
have
a
ride
today
like
and
you
have
to
say
things
like.
Well,
it's
your
responsibility
to
get
to
work.
J
C
All
right,
jennifer,
I'm
just
curious,
and
you
know
I
know
you're
not
on
the
board
now.
So
no
there's
not
a
wrong
answer
to
this,
but
I'm
just
curious.
Have
you
obviously
there's
been
a
ton
of
hotels
you
know
built
and
in
the
development
pipeline
in
recent
years
in
asheville,
have
you
followed
the
development
of
the
city,
the
city's
new
hotel
policy,
that's
being
recommended
by
the
planning
staff?
C
Have
you
followed
that
issue
very
closely?
I
believe
it's
not
been
voted
on
yet,
but
is
about
to
be
I'm
just
curious
if
you
have
and
what
your
thoughts
are
on
it
at
this
time.
Well,.
J
I
followed
the
public
comment,
so
I
know
it's
not
like
super
popular,
but
I
I
mean
I
haven't
followed.
I
haven't
followed
it
like
super
closely,
but
I
definitely
follow
like
the
public
comment
in
like
the
newspaper
like
mountain
express,
wax
things
like
that,
so
I
do
know
what's
going
on,
I'm
not.
C
And
maybe
just
to
kind
of
clarify
a
little
bit.
I
don't
think
I
asked
the
question
very
well
so
so
my
general
understanding
is
that
that
there'd
be
you
know,
it
identifies
new
areas
in
the
city
where
hotels
could
be
built
and
kind
of.
What's
interesting
about
it
and
whether
you
like
it
or
don't
like
it
is
it
basically
says
you
know,
projects
that
achieve
a
certain
level
of
public
benefits.
C
People
would
be
able
to
build
their
hotel
project
sort
of
as
a
use
by
right,
not
have
to
go
to
city
council.
If
it
doesn't
create
the
public
benefits
through
different
options,
then
it
would
have
to
go
to
city
council,
so
that's
kind
of
my
general
understanding
of
it
and
if
you
think,
that's
accurate
and
what
your
kind
of
thoughts
are
about,
that
kind
of
approach.
J
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
that,
just
because
I
haven't
read
into
that
too
much,
but
you
know
I
mean
definitely
any
project
that
comes
before
the
council.
I
would
definitely
want
to
like
make
sure
that
I
read
thoroughly
on
it
to
make
sure
that
I
could
speak
to
it
and
have
enough
knowledge
of
that,
and
definitely
you
do
want
to
take
into
consideration
all
the
public
comments
that
everybody
brings
to
you.
But
we
do
live
in
a
tourist-driven
city.
J
I
see
that
every
single
day
at
work,
and
so
I
know
how
much
money
tourists
bring
into
to
my
particular
like
brand,
and
I
also
know
how
much
how
many
people
that
I
know
personally,
that,
like
their
paychecks,
depend
on
tourists.
So
it's
like
you
again
with
the
empathetic
side
you
have
to
like
take
into
effect
to
take
into
account
like
the
public
driven
comments
and
also
like
the
plans
of
where
the
city
wants
to
go.
J
But
do
it
again
like
going
back
to
the
first
question
in
a
responsible
manner,
not
just
tossing
up
a
hotel
on
every
single
corner,
but
going
along
into
that
like
mixed
use,
housing
and
like
the
sidewalks,
and
I
know
new
belgium
is
not
a
hotel
but
like
what
they
did
like
responsibly
like
bringing
in
the
greenway
like
having
some
sort
of
ideas
like
that
to
sit
down
and
look
at.
C
Okay-
and
our
last
question
is
just
whether
there's
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
tell
us
that
we
haven't
already
asked
you
about
that.
You
want
to
share.
J
The
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is
this
is
the
second
board
that
I've
interviewed
for
a
couple
years
ago.
I
didn't
make
it
onto
the
into
the
greenways
board,
but
I
am
like
really
interested
in
being
involved
in
the
county,
and
I
think
I
have
a
lot
of
experience.
I
could
do
really
well
and
if
you
are
looking
to
fill
a
couple
other
boards,
also,
the
women's
commission
board,
is
something
else
that
I'm
interested
in
as
well.
So
that's
about
it
thanks
for
your
time
today.
C
I
I
F
F
C
C
B
C
C
I
K
C
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
much
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
for
a
few
minutes
we're
doing
just
a
brief
interview
with
the
candidates
for
the
board
of
equalization
and
a
couple
of
other
boards.
So
it
should
just
take
a
few
minutes
and
we've
got
just
a
couple
of
questions
and
commissioner
welch
is
going
to
is
going
to
ask
the
first
question.
C
L
Well,
I
guess
I
have
yet
to
find
out
what
the
actual
specifics
are
to
the
role.
I
did,
the
you
know
cursory
review
online
and
you
know,
obviously
it's
a
property
assessment
and
review
kind
of
a
process
and
I'd
be
plugged
into
there
somewhere,
and
I
guess
I'm
at
a
point
where
I
can
afford
to
contribute
back
just
time
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
most
valuable
things
we've
got
as
we
gain
supposed
wisdom
through
the
years.
So
that's
that's.
Why
I'm
here
and
that's
that's
how
I
think
I
can
contribute.
C
Great
and
commissioner
presley
has
a
question.
M
Thanks
for
being
here,
what's
your
knowledge
on
the
local
real
estate.
L
It's
it's
really
only
as
good
as
where
I
focus
my
you
know
attention
at
the
time
I've
got
my
real
estate
license,
I'm
active,
but
I
don't
work
for
anybody.
I've
kept
that
up
through
the
years.
In
fact,
I'm
about
to
go
back
and
get
renewal
classes,
but
and
we've
always
tried
to
be
pretty
informed.
L
Consumers
we've
been
through
my
wife
and
I
several
homes
through
the
last
15
or
20
years,
and
you
know
it's
a
process
and
you
you
learn
what
you're
looking
for
and
how
you
you
know
how
you
can
afford
what
you
want
versus
what
you
can't
and
anyway
I
guess
my
knowledge
is
pretty
broad
and
and
for
the
moment,
consumer
based,
but
that
can
transition
easily.
N
Good
afternoon,
michael
we're
glad
to
have
you
here.
My
question
is:
what
experience
do
you
have
with
say
business
equipment,
and
by
that
I
mean
you
know,
one
of
the
key
parts
of
the
equity
of
the
board
is
reviewing
that
you
know
the
cost
of
equipment
and
that
on
in
personal
property,
what
what
experience
do
you
have
with
that.
L
Well,
I
suppose
probably
some
relative
experience
was,
I
spent
five
years
with
the
department
of
transportation
down
in
florida
and
in
the
first
couple
years
you
know,
has
I
moved
up
several
positions
really
really
quickly
and
and
one
of
those
was
as
an
inventory
auditor
at
the
time.
So
I
guess
that
gave
me.
You
know
that
kind
of
perspective
from
a
government.
L
Since
then,
I've
also
had
my
own
business.
I've
spent.
You
know.
I've
just
evaluated
my
life
over
decades,
where
I've
gone
through
different
phases,
one
of
which
was
entrepreneurial,
and
I
had
you
know
I
collected
equipment,
which
I
learned
at
the
time
quickly
devalues.
As
you
know,
as
the
technology
increases,
the
value
goes
down.
Nonetheless,
I've
got
a
personal
feel
and
I've
got
a
you
know
state
view
over
look
at
things.
L
You
know
county,
I'm
sure
somewhere
in
between,
but
it's
it's
all
applicable
depending
on
what
you're
looking
for.
N
C
Michael,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
you've
got
some
great
exp
experience
and
skills
that
would
be
very
relevant
to
this
board.
Our
last
question
is
just
asking
whether
there's
anything
else
you
wanted
to
share
with
us
today
that
we
haven't
already
asked
you
about.
L
Not
really,
I
think,
just
one
thing
I
want
to
notice,
it
might
have
been
a
few
of
the
same
faces.
I
was
here
it's
probably
been
a
decade
ago,
but
I
had
my
two
kids
with
me
and
the
board
graciously
declined
my
offer
to
volunteer
to
decide
they're
grown
now
and
it's
interesting.
You
know
my
daughter
she's
in
her
last
year,
high
school
in
the
sun
he's
she's
already
gone
anyway,
but
it's
it's
I'm
at
a
different
point
now
and
it's
probably
better.
You
know
for
that,
and
I've
got
more
experience.
C
C
C
N
C
Mark,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
time
to
come.
Talk
to
us
for
a
few
minutes
today
and
for
your
interest
in
serving
okay.
So
we've
got
just
a
few
questions.
We're
asking
each
of
the
applicants
for
the
board
of
equalization
and
should
just
take
a
few
minutes
and
commissioner
wells
will
get
us
started.
Hey.
P
Well,
good
question:
my
knowledge
is
diverse.
I
have
been
here
in
the
asheville
area
since
I
graduated
from
western
just
a
really
quick
background.
I
was
an
internal
author,
try
to
college
with
a
local
bank
wachovia,
which
is
now
wells
fargo,
but
my
knowledge
and
experience
in
the
asheville
market
spans
40
years,
going
back
to
in
a
variety
of
fields:
finance
real
estate,
commercial
brokerage,
banking.
P
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
some
agencies
around
town,
some
federal
agencies.
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
msd
condemnations
dot.
So
my
my
experience
is
pretty
broad
I
feel
like.
I
have
a
pretty
good
knowledge
base.
You
know
I
enjoy
the
game,
I
enjoy
real
estate.
I
mean
I
like
the
analysis
side
of
it.
That's
a
strong
part
of
my
background
and
I've
been
involved
in
quite
a
few
things.
P
P
P
Markets
yeah
my
knowledge
again,
it
spans
residential.
I
had
an
appraisal
firm
for
33
years,
based
here
in
asheville,
and
I
had
four
commercial
and
six
residential,
so
I've
been
involved
in
the
real
estate
market,
not
only
buncombe
county
but
several
counties
but
quite
extensively.
P
Changes
in
banking
changes
in
laws
and
rules,
so
so
I'm
I
feel
qualified
to
take
the
position
and
we'll
serve
it
well,
equitable,
I
believe
in
equitable
and
fair
treatment.
P
You
know,
there's
always
concerns
and
issues,
and
you
know
you
just
do
your
your
best
to
sort
through
that
and
try
to
get
down
to
the
facts,
and
sometimes
it's
a
little
bit
hard.
Sometimes
people
tend
not
to
present
facts,
but
you
you
can
sort
it
out
pretty
quickly
and
come
to
a
fair
decision.
I
think.
N
I'm
here
that's
a
good
thing:
oh
you'll
be
all
right.
I've
been
through
that
twice
with
my
wife,
so
I
know
the
knee
surgery
is
yes,
but
it's
good
to
see
you
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
the
question,
even
though
I
must
confess
we've
worked
together
with
the
bank,
so
I
knew
mark
when
he
was
an
appraisal
and
did
work
for
us.
N
P
Some
of
it
is
not,
but
I
do
tend
to
be
able
to
separate,
I
think,
the
some
of
the
different
components
of
real
estate
and
assess
those
based
on
the
data
that's
been
presented
in
support
of
a
value
either
way
you
know
and
to
hear
both
sides
and
render
a
decision,
but
that's
all
part
of
it
that
goes
with
the
territory.
So
it's
not
just
real
estate,
so
they're
asset
types,
so
I
feel
pretty
qualified
to
come
to
a
reasonable
decision
based
on
what's
presented
either
way.
P
N
C
Mark
you've
obviously
got
great
experience
relevant
to
this
committee,
so
thanks
for
your
willingness
to
serve
the
last
question
is
just
whether
there's
anything
else.
You
want
to
tell
us
that
we
haven't
already
brought
up
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
us.
P
Don't
know
what
role
or
expectation
there
is
of
the
commissioners
for
me,
it's
just
to
be
fair
and
equitable
and
treat
all
parties
that
way
and
just
try
to
sort
out
the
facts
and
sometimes
again,
the
facts
are
not
always
clear,
sometimes
they're,
hidden,
sometimes
they're
unknown,
and
so
you
just
have
to
make
the
best
decisions
that
you
can
based
on
the
information
that
you
have.
It's
not
always
clear-cut
rules
and
laws
are
always
changing.
P
So
that's
that's
one
thing
that
I've
learned
over
the
course
of
years
is
that
was
what
was
applicable
four
or
five
years
ago
may
not
be
applicable
today.
So
it
comes
down
to
part
evaluation.
Are
the
basic
rules
of
legal
permissibility?
P
You
know,
is
it
right?
Is
it
lawful
all
the
other
austin
based
use
measures,
financial
feasibility
maximally
product,
all
that
all
that
comes
that's
just
part
of
the
experience,
but
usually
it's
the
first
two
hurdles
of
of
legal
permissibility
that
sort
of
guide
the
decision,
because,
if
you
can't
get
beyond
that,
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
come
to
a
value.
C
C
C
C
C
L
K
J
C
C
I
C
C
I
K
C
C
E
R
Madam
commissioner,
I've,
my
intent
is
simply
to
be
and
remain
involved
with
the
with
with
the
county
government
and
because
part
of
my
obligation
as
a
lawyer,
my
ethical
obligation
is
to
give
pro
bono
service,
which
is
what
this
is
and
for
all
my
career
and
ever
since
I've
been
a
resident
of
buncombe
county,
I've
always
been
involved
in
something
in
municipal
government,
so
I've
had
a
little
hiatus
here
a
year
or
two.
So
it's
time
to
get
back
on
the
horse.
R
My
experience
is,
besides
being
an
attorney
and
practicing
in
the
area
of
real
estate
and
corporate
transactions,
trust
in
the
states,
which
often
brought
me
in
contact
with
the
tax
office
on
a
whole
variety
of
things
that
I
have
some
prior
experiences
serving
on
on
appointed
boards.
I
was
a
member
of
the
msd
board
for
over
20
years
and
chairman
for
about,
I
guess,
eight
or
so.
R
I've
been
on
the
town
of
montreal
board
way
back
in
the
day
and
and
I've
served
on
a
wide
variety
of
other
non-profit
organizations
and
in
that's
a
and
I'm
also
individually,
a
real
estate
investor
on
my
property
in
the
city
of
asheville
that
occupies
my
office
and
I
have
property
in
other
locations
as
well.
So
I
bring
a
pretty
broad
swath
of
experience
to
the.
R
R
Gosh,
it's
been
an
excruciating
hands-on
experience
here
for
about
40
years,
so
yeah
I've
done
thousands
of
transactions
on
behalf
of
of
parties
as
as
on
behalf
of
buyers
and
sellers
and
lenders
and
and,
as
I
know,
some
of
my
own
transactions
on
my
own
account
as
well.
R
So
I
couldn't
hardly
give
you
a
number,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
they
range
from
in
the
many
millions
of
dollars
on
down
to
ordinary
lots
and
and
single-family
homes
and
double
wides,
and
you
name
it.
R
N
The
question
I'm
going
to
ask-
and
I
think
you've
answered
some
of
it
anyway,
but
we're
asking
like
robert
said
everybody
the
same
questions.
The
a
big
important
part
of
the
board
of
equalization
and
review
is
looking
at
business
equipment,
personal
property
and
all
what's
been
your
experience
with
that.
R
I've
been
involved
in
informing
many
corporate
organizations
and
that
and
also
involved
in
murders,
merger
and
acquisition
transactions
involving
corporate
entities,
also
security
transactions,
where
banks
were
taking
business
property
as
security.
R
S
C
All
right,
steve,
our
last
question
is
just
anything
else.
You
would
like
to
share
with
us
that
we
haven't
already
brought
up
that
you
would
like
for
us
to
know
about
today.
R
I'd
I'd
like
to
give
a
shout
to
the
to
your
tax
office
and
to
your
entire
fiscal
staff.
R
I
think
they
are
extraordinary
and
I
found
them
to
be
fair
and
responsive
in
every
single
instance,
and
that
goes
back
as
far
as
I
can
remember,
and
my
earliest
impression
of
buncombe
county
tax
office
and
the
buncombe
county
government
is
that
the
the
staff
here
are
not
respecters
of
persons.
R
They
do
treat
people
equally
and
and
they
demand
and
expect
respect
and
they
give
respect,
and
I,
as
far
as
the
respect
that
and
dignity
that
individuals
are
due-
and
I
I'm
I'm
I'm
going
to
be
proud
to
be
a
part
of
that.
I'm
I've
been
just
immensely
proud
and
pleased
with
with
how
your
staff
does
goes
about
doing
their
business.
C
Well,
we
appreciate
that
we're
proud
of
them
too.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
you're
interested
in
serving
here
we're
planning
on
making
the
decision
for
the
appointments
tonight,
and
you
have
great
skills
and
experience.
That
would
be
a
great
value
to
this.
Honestly.
All
the
candidates
we've
had
for
this
have
been
just
very
well
qualified
candidates.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
coming
to
talk
to
us
today
and
you're
interested
in
serving.
R
A
A
A
A
I
I
I
I
C
C
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
time
to
be
with
us
this
afternoon
and
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
county
planning
board.
We've
got
just
a
few
questions,
we're
asking
each
of
the
applicants
who
have
applied,
so
we
should
just
take
a
few
minutes
to
do
that
and
commissioner.
P
E
S
Well,
thanks
for
the
question
my
goals
in
being
a
part
of
this
is,
I
know
this
is
kind
of
an
exciting
time
for
asheville.
There's
a
lot
of
growth,
a
lot
of
challenges
going
on
and
I've
been
looking
for
some
way
to
give
back
and
volunteer
in
the
community,
and
this
seemed
like
a
good
place
to
put
my
oaring.
S
L
S
They
had
done
a
20-year
plan
and
I
was
the
representative
from
our
area
of
town,
so
I
got
to
see
a
little
bit
of
how
these
things
got
built
and
decided,
and
some
of
the
discussion
going
on
and
my
skill
set
is
pretty
much
what
it
takes
to
be.
F
Thanks
ken
thanks
for
for
coming
and
your
willingness
to
serve
on
a
on
a
volunteer
board
for
your
community,
as
you
know,
our
our
county
and
city
and
whole
area
really
is
is
growing
rapidly,
and
we
can
only
expect
that
to
continue.
S
That's
a
that's
a
good
one,
the
I
I
tend
to
think
of
things
like
this
in
terms
of
stakeholders
and
it's
the
same
for
companies
as
it
is
for
a
community,
and
I
believe
that
you
have
to
be
responsible
to
as
many
constituent
groups
as
you
can
within
within
reason.
It
means
in
this
environment.
I
think
obviously,
people
who
develop
the
community
are
important.
S
S
It's
not
just
it's
not
just
the
new
subdivisions,
it's
redeveloping
more
urban
areas,
and
it
has
to
do
with
what
do
you
do
about
maintaining
rivers
cleanliness
traffic
patterns
at
the
end
of
the
day?
S
If
this
is
such
an
attractive
area,
you
don't
want
to
destroy
things
that
are
going
to
make
it
less
attractive
and
particularly
for
people
who've
lived
here
for
a
long
time
and
and
value
it
for
the
way
it
has
been.
You
want
it
to
change
in
a
way
that
honors
a
lot
of
that
as
much
as
possible
means
a
lot
of
compromise.
I
know.
G
Reflecting
what
you
said,
if
you
could
just
walk
us
through
how
you
approach
tough
decision
making
you've
alluded
to
that
a
little
bit,
but
just
some
of
the
ways
you
approach
making
a
really
hard
decision.
Where
you
know
some
folks
will
walk
away
unhappy
with
the
result.
S
Well,
the
first
step
is
to
listen
to
all
sides
and
ask
the
right
questions.
I
confess
I
wouldn't
know
what
the
right
questions
are
coming
out
of
the
gate
in
this
environment,
but
the
first
step
is
to
ask
the
right
questions
and
the
second,
I
think,
is
to
make
sure
that
you
have
the
right
constituents
and
that's
not
always
obvious,
I
think,
but
they
have
as
many
of
the
right
constituents
involved
in
the
process.
S
S
I
think
if
you
have
done
those
things
first,
then
you
can
explain
why
the
decision
is
being
made
and
everybody
is
going
to
be
either
happy
or
unhappy
depending
on
the
outcome,
but
at
least
they'll
know
what
you
were
thinking.
I
guess
that's
a
short
a
long
way
of
saying
a
certain
amount
of
transparency
is
pretty
important.
C
All
right
ken
one.
C
Is
you
may
be
aware
that
the
county
is
beginning
to
the
development
of
a
comprehensive
plan,
a
new,
comprehensive
plan?
It's
going
to
be
a
very
you
know,
broad
effort.
It's
going
to
we've
committed
pretty
substantial
resources
to
it.
It's
going
to
take
a
while
to
do
it.
We're
excited
about
it,
but
in
the
planning
board,
we'll
be
we'll,
have
a
role
to
play
in
that,
but
because
it
will
take
a
while
for
us
to
develop
and
adopt
that
plan.
C
I'm
curious
if
there
are
any
policies
that
you
think
might
be
time
sensitive
enough,
that
the
planning
board
working
with
the
commission
might
want
to
consider
trying
to
you
know,
develop
those
policies
prior
to
the
adoption
of
the
comprehensive
plan
which
which
could
easily
take.
You
know
well
over
a
year,
maybe
18
months,
to
go
through
that
process.
So
just
any
thoughts
about
about
any
short-term
needs
in
the
context
of
starting
this
broad
effort.
S
I
don't
feel
like
I
have
quite
enough
information
on
that.
I
will
say
that,
there's
with
short
of
putting
a
moratorium
on
certain
kinds
of
things
I
haven't
been
oblivious
to
the,
for
example,
the
proposed
development
at
the
bluffs,
and
that
seems
to
have
for
a
number
of
reasons,
a
number
of
obvious
reasons
attracted
a
lot
of
resident
sentiment
and
opposition
and
concern.
S
So
to
the
extent
that
you
you
look
for
where
there
are
likely
to
be
long-term
trouble
spots
and
those
are
traffic.
Those
are
environment,
those
are
pollution,
and
you
put
in
place
things
that
slow
those
down
until
the
until
the
comprehensive
plan
is
in
place.
You
prevent
long-term
damage
that
you
can't
undo
with
the
plan
and
maybe,
if
there's
a
way
to
avoid,
having
a
rush
to
sneak
in
so
to
speak
before
these
things
are
put
in
place
before
there's
a
strategic
overview
of
what
we're
trying
to
do.
I
think
that's
important.
S
S
S
C
C
C
C
C
I
A
S
S
F
F
C
C
All
right
well,
thank
you
so
much
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
city
planning
board
and
we've
got
a
few
questions
that
we're
asking
each
of
the
applicants
applied
for
it.
It
should
take
just
a
few
minutes
and
commissioner,
terry
wells
is
going
to
ask
the
first
question.
Okay,.
T
Thank
you
for
the
question
I'd
like
to
volunteer
on
this
board
to
get
more
involved
in
local
government,
I'm
also
I'm
29
years
old
and
a
young
professional
in
the
community.
So
I'm
hoping
that
on
any
board
or
any
ability
that
I
can
serve
in.
I
can
help
represent
people
in
my
age
group,
my
demographic
as
far
as
the
jobs,
we're
looking
for
the
kind
of
community
we're
trying
to
live
in.
So
I'd
hoped
that
I
could
represent
people
like
myself
and
help
asheville
grow
into
a
healthy,
happy
place.
T
What
skills
do
I
bring?
I've
worked
in
residential
construction
and
a
project
management
perspective
for
several
years.
I'm
very
much
used
to
dealing
with
multi-million
dollar
projects,
both
residential
and
commercial.
I've
also
had
backgrounds
in
data
analytics
from
previous
college
careers
and
previous
jobs.
So
I
think
facts
are.
F
And
thank
you
again
for
your
willingness
to
serve
and
being
here
today
with
us.
As
you
know,
our
city
and
county
is
growing
growing
a
lot
and
we
certainly
expect
that
to
continue
for
the
years
to
come.
So
I'm
curious
what
you
think
of
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
what
responsible
growth
means
to
you.
T
Thank
you
for
the
question
yeah
I
moved
here
myself.
I
grew
up
in
winston-salem
and
I
moved
here
six
and
a
half
seven
years
ago.
I
came
here
because
it's
beautiful
up
here,
it's
a
great
community.
I
came
up
here
to
live
in
the
mountains,
albeit
there's
a
lot
of
people
with
that
same
dream.
Right
now
wanting
to
come
here,
and
I
love
that
the
idea
of
more
people
are
coming
here
for
the
beauty
we
have,
but
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we
are
not
sacrificing
that
at
all.
T
You
know
we
got
to
protect
the
reason
why
people
are
coming
here,
our
water.
Our
streams
are,
you
know,
spaced
out
community.
Well,
I
want
asheville
to
grow.
I
want
it
to
grow
in
a
way
that
everyone
can
have
equal
access
to
affordable
housing,
to
decent
jobs,
to
decent
retirements
and
not
totally
becoming
a
sprawling
city
that
you're
just
sitting
on
the
highway
all
the
time
or
just
always
sitting
in
the
muck
of
it,
instead
of
getting
out
to
walk
around
and
enjoy
it.
T
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question.
You
always
have
to
look
at
everyone
involved
in
the
situation
and
you
have
to
understand
what
their,
what
their
agency
is
in
the
in
the
situation,
whether
it's
financial,
whether
it's
emotional,
whether
it's
social
standing,
whether
it's
their
own
property
and
each
person's
going
to
value
those
things
at
different
levels
because
of
their
background,
where
they're
coming
from
it's
very
hard,
especially
in
the
public
sector,
to
always
come
up
with
a
solution
that
totally
satisfies
everyone's
list
of
agencies.
They
have
in
a
situation.
T
As
far
as
how
many
can
you
satisfy
with
your
solution,
as
well
as
protecting
very
core
things
or
some
values
you
don't
want
to
negate
on
at
all,
and
so
I
think
one,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
always
kind
of
trying
to
use
data
to
back
up
your
solution
as
far
as
just
coming
up
with
hard
facts
to
back.
You
up
helps
make
that
decision,
but
listening
to
all
the
constituents
and
not
ever
closing
the
door
on
someone,
I
think,
is
important.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
hey
bryn,
one
question
is:
have
you
have
you
by
chance
followed
the
development
of
the
city's
proposed
ordinance
around
hotel
policies?
That's
been
in
the
in
the
works
over
the
last
few
months.
T
T
I
know
in
the
last
several
years
there's
been
lots
of
different
conversations,
so
you
might
have
to
elaborate
a
little
bit
on
what
you're
referring
to.
C
You're
not
on
the
board
yet,
so
it's
certainly
not
not
a
requirement,
maybe
I'll,
just
kind
of
ask
in
a
more
general
way.
You
know,
there's
been
an
unprecedented
amount
of
new
hotel
development
in
the
city
of
asheville
over
the
last
five
or
six
years,
and
I'm
just
curious
about
your
kind
of
general
perspective
on
it.
C
T
You
obviously
tourism
is
a
huge
part
of
this
area
and
the
whole
west
north
carolina
region.
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
keeping
it
special.
I
mean.
There's
towns,
you
go
to
along
the
coast
that
have
you
know,
hotel
and
highways
after
high
rise
and
at
some
point
to
me,
that
kind
of
loses
the
magic
of
going
to
the
beach
in
tampa
or
something
where
you
see
hotel
after
hotel
and
you're
crowded.
T
So
I
would
like
to
see
the
further
development
of
hotels
and
the
tourism
industry
here,
but
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
just
blanketed
with
them.
I
think
we
need
to
promote
the
value
of
each
individual
run
rather
than
just
trying
to
get
as
many
as
possible.
I
think
making
it
a
special
experience
will
make
it
a
really
unique
tourism
place.
C
Great
thank
you
good
answer,
my
last
question,
and
this
is
one
that
we
haven't
asked
other
candidates
who
was
the
speaker
pro
tem
of
the
north
carolina
general
assembly.
Back
in
2010,
we
were
trying
to
figure.
L
T
I
served
as
an
intern
to
dale
falwell.
I
believe
he
was
a
state
treasurer,
I'm
not
sure
if
he
got
reelected
or
not.
I
was
just
there
in
an
intern
capacity,
pretty
much
answering
the
phone
and
just
helping
him
get
to
meetings
to
meetings,
and
so
I
don't
want
political
judgment
to
be
passed
on
either
side.
C
We
will
we
will
read
everything
we
will
read
anything
into
the
into
the
into
that.
We
were
just
trying
to
go
back
in
our
minds
about
who
was
down
there.
Then
all
right.
Thank
you
so
much.
You
know.
The
only
other
question
we
had
was
whether
there's
anything
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
today
that
you
haven't
already
through
the
questions
that
have
already
been
asked.
T
I'm
really
excited
about
the
opportunity
I've
been
looking
for
a
way
to
get
into
local
government
at
some
level.
Just
so
I
can
serve
and
educate
myself
more
on
how
it
works
and
seemed
like
a
really
good
opportunity.
With
my
background
in
construction
and
analytics,
I
mean
it's
something
I'm
interested
in
obviously
professionally,
but
also
I
care
very
much
about
people
having
healthy,
healthy,
healthy,
happy
lives
here.
So
this
seemed
like
a
decent
way
to
get
my
foot
in
the
door
and
try
to
make
some
connections
and
just
learn
what
I
could
do.
C
Well,
that's
great.
We
are
planning
on
making
these
appointments
at
our
commission
meeting
this
evening,
so
stay
tuned
and
we
should
we
should
be
able
to
make
a
decision
later
today.
Okay,.
C
A
A
I
I
L
S
C
Saying
I've
got
a
gavel
here
and
I
can
stop
it
hey.
Thank
you.
It's
great
to
see
you
thanks
for
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
come,
talk
to
us
and
your
interest
in
the
planning
board.
I.
U
C
So
we're
just
you
know
you
kind
of
know
the
routine
here
from
the
previous
strategic
partnership
conversations
and
others.
We've
had
we're
just
asking
a
few
questions
to
the
applicants.
It
should
just
take
a
few
minutes
and
terry
wells
will
will
get
us
started.
U
U
Well,
as
I
understand
the
planning
board,
it's
to
it's
a
quasi-legislative
body
to
recommend
action
to
the
board
of
commissioners
and
the
the
the
foundation
for
what
the
planning
board
does
does
are
the
ordinances
that
govern
development
in
buncombe
county
in
terms
of
what
I
bring
I'm
retired.
So
I
have
time
I'm
on
a
couple
of
non-profit
boards,
but
I
I
love
asheville
and
I
want
to
give
back
so
I
bring
you
know,
40
years
of
of
work
experience,
I'm
one
of
the
I'm
one
of
these
types
of
volunteers,
but
who
always
shows
up?
U
F
And
again
thanks,
mr
collins,
for
your
willingness
to
serve
your
community.
As
you
know,
you
know
the
city
of
asheville
buncombe
county.
Our
community
is
growing
a
lot
and
we
certainly
expect
that
to
continue
through
the
future,
and
so
I'm
curious
what
you
think
about
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
what
responsible
growth
means
to
you.
U
Well,
first,
I'm
a
proponent
of
growth.
If
you
don't
grow,
you
die,
and
you
know
there,
there
are
lots
of
retirees
and
older
people
here,
and
a
number
of
them
are
are
moving
on
to
whatever
next
phase
there
is
so
we
need
growth
to
bring
in
a
new
young
talent
and
families
to
help
keep
the
the
community
alive
and
growing
and
succeeding.
U
Responsible
growth
to
me
means
effective
use
of
the
land
that
we
have
available
for
development,
which
means
to
me
to
the
extent
we
can
preserve
and
protect
the
things
about
asheville
and
buncombe
county
that
are.
That
are
the
reason
why
all
of
us
are
here:
it's
beautiful,
water
and
and
and
mountains
and
hills
and
valleys
and
creeks.
U
G
U
Well,
leadership
is
not
a
popularity
contest,
I'm
sure
all
of
you
are
very
popular,
however,
but
I
guess
the
way
I
and
a
god
may
have
made
so
many
unpopular
decisions
in
my
in
my
life.
The
way
I
approach
it
is
to
be
open
to
listen
to
if
there
are
sides.
Multiple
sides,
two
three
four
sides
to
an
issue
together:
facts
to
seek
input
to
try
to
build
consensus.
C
So
tim,
you
may
be
aware
that
the
commission
and
working
with
the
planning
staff
we've
approved
funding
to
undertake
the
development
of
a
new
comprehensive
plan,
and
so
that's
going
to
be
an
important
process
we
go
through,
and
the
planning
board
will
certainly
play
an
important
role
in
that.
L
C
Our
time
and
we
want
to
do
it
right,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
you
know
we
are
seeing
a
lot
of
you
know
very
large
projects
going
forward.
Are
there
any?
Are
there
any
policies
that
you
think
might
be
sort
of
time
sensitive
enough
that
we
might
want
to?
You
know
the
commission
and
planning
board
work
together
and
and
with
the
eye
towards
putting
them
in
place
in
advance
of
completing
the
whole
comprehensive
plan
which
is
going
to
again
take
a
long
time
just
just
curious.
C
If
there's
any
policies
like
that
that
you
know
you
think
about
and
if
not
that's
totally
fine
just
want
to.
U
Well,
I've
actually
spent
some
time
on
the
phone
with
nate
pennington.
I've
also
talked
to
nancy
waldrop
who's.
A
friend
of
mine,
through
leadership,
asheville
forum
and
nate,
is
presenting
at
leadership
asheville
forum
next
week
on
my
birthday,
my
birthday,
so
I'm
still
educating
myself
on
these
matters.
I
guess
the
things
that
I
think
about
are
greenways.
U
U
C
That's
totally
fine,
just
just
just
a
question,
and
our
last
question
is
whether
there
any
anything
else
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
that
hasn't
been
brought
out
through
the
questions
that
we've
already
asked
today.
B
C
C
C
Kelsey,
hey,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
time
to
come,
talk
to
us
today
and
for
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
county
planning
board.
So
we
have
just
a
few
questions
that
we're
asking
each
of
the
applicants
for
the
board
and
it
shouldn't
take
very
long
and
commissioner
wells
will
ask
the
first
question.
E
F
Thank
you,
mr
wood.
Thanks
for
coming
and
your
willingness
to
serve,
as
you
know,
the
the
county
and
city
growing
a
lot,
and
we
certainly
expect
growth
to
continue
here
for
many
years
to
come.
So
I'm
curious
what
you
think
about
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
what
responsible
growth
means
to
you.
V
Yeah
we
we
are
growing
rapidly,
and
I
think
that
what
responsible
growth
would
mean
to
me
would
be
growth
that
is
inclusive
of
all
income
levels
and
not
just
growth
that
is
targeted
at
large
single-family
tracts.
I'm.
I
would
call
myself
a
peri-urban
farmer
and
I
work
on
two
different
properties
right
outside
the
city
limits
that
are
within
buncombe
county,
and
I
see
the
development
pressures
on
open
lands.
V
That
doesn't
mean
that
I
would
advocate
for
keeping
all
lands
open
and
not
developing,
but
development
has
to
happen
in
a
way
that
is
cohesive
with
infrastructure.
That's
already
in
existence,
so
that
we
can
utilize
and
more
efficiently
projects
that
are
already
underway,
as
well
as
leave
some
areas
open
that
might
be
more
affordable
and
not
kind
of
taken
over
by
all
higher-end
development
is
a
lot
of
what
I
see.
G
Thank
you
for
your
time
today
and
your
interest.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
how
you
approach,
making
tough
decisions,
where
you
know
some
folks
are
going
to
walk
away
unhappy
with
the
result.
V
I
don't
wanna,
I
wouldn't
want
to
leave
any
viewpoints
out
and
I
think
there
would
have
to
be
a
balance
and
compromise
reached.
C
Kelsey,
as
you
may
be
aware,
the
county
has
started
development
of
a
new
comprehensive
plan
for
the
county,
and
the
planning
award
will
be
working
with
the
planning
staff
on
that
process.
We're
excited
about
it
and
it'll
kind
of
chart.
You
know
the
direction
of
the
county
for,
for
you
know,
years
to
come,
but
it's
gonna
take
a
while
to
get
that
plan
in
place.
You
know
well
over
a
year,
you
know
maybe
closer
to
two.
C
So
are
there
any
policies
like
land
use
policies
that
you
think
you
know
might
be
time
sensitive
enough
that
we
might
wanna.
We
might
need
to
consider
working
on
adoption
of
them
in
advance
of
completing
the
comprehensive
plan.
C
Totally
fine
all
right.
The
last
question
we
had
was:
is
there
anything
else
you
would
like
to
share
with
us
that
you
haven't
based
on
the
questions
we've
already
asked.
V
I
have
a
wide
range
of
interests
having
come
through
the
lenoir-rhyne
sustainability
studies
program,
which
is
really
interdisciplinary
by
nature.
I
also
have
strong
interest
in
sustainable
farming
and
food
policy
and
hence
the
the
advocacy
to
leave
some
areas
open
and
make
food
access
a
priority,
and
I
just
have
long
had
a
strong
interest
in
kind
of
urban
design
and
how
a
lot
of
issues
in
sustainability
come
down
to
the
way
we
have
put
our
communities
together.
V
So
this
would
be
a
great
opportunity
for
me
to
exercise
that
interest
and
serve
the
community
and
learn
more
as
I
go.
I'd
be
really
curious
to
learn
more.
C
A
C
C
O
C
It's
great
to
see
you
thank
you
for
coming
to
take
take
time
to
talk
to
us
for
a
few
minutes
today
about
the
county
planning
board
absolutely,
and
so
we
have
just
a
few
questions.
We're
asking
the
same
questions
to
each
of
the
applicants
for
the
planning
board
and
it
will
just
take
a
few
minutes
and
terry
wells
will
ask
the
first
question.
E
O
Thank
you,
commissioner
wells.
I
have
served
on
the
county
board
of
adjustment
for
three
years.
I
also
served
on
the
city
planning
commission
for
seven
years
and
and
chaired
it
for
two
years.
O
We
were
able
to
work
really
carefully
and
collaboratively
with
the
planning
department
on
a
higher
density,
affordable
housing
development
under
the
community
oriented
development
program.
So
I
think
they've
got
a
lot
of
skills
as
far
as
planning
in
the
community,
I'm
dedicated
to
providing
housing
for
all
of
our
citizens,
as
well
as
preserving
the
environment
at
the
same
time,
and
I
think
I
can
bring
those
skills
to
the
planning
board.
F
Hi
cindy,
thank
you
for
for
being
here
and
for
again,
your
willingness
to
serve
your
community.
Yet
again,
as
you
know,
our
city
and
county
are
growing
a
lot
and
we
certainly
expect
our
community
to
grow
further
in
the
years
to
come.
So
I'm
curious
what
you
think
about
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
what
responsible
growth
means
to
you.
O
Yeah
I've
been,
I
was
encouraged
to
apply
for
this
by
some
members
of
the
community
because
I
know
you're
embarking
on
your
updated,
comprehensive
plan,
and
I
think
you
have
the
rfp
out
now
and
I
looked
at
that
schedule
and
it's
going
to
take
a
couple
of
years,
which
would
be
if
I
was
appointed.
I
would
be
a
part
of
that
process
and
I
think
that
that's
great
because
it
hasn't
been
updated
in
a
while.
O
I
was
living
in
asheville
working
here
when
buncombe
county
basically
had
no
zoning
and
went
to
the
meetings.
I
can't
remember
when
that
was.
I
guess
it
was
in
the
1990s
when,
when
we
were
trying
to
there
were
meetings
at
the
civic
center
when
we
were
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
zone
the
county
and
that
sort
of
thing.
G
Thank
you
for
your
time
today
and
and
your
history
of
service
around
these
issues.
Can
you
just
talk
to
us
about
how
you
approach
some
of
the
tough
decisions
that
will
no
doubt
come
before
this
board,
and
especially
when
you
know
some
folks
are
going
to
walk
away
unhappy
with
the
conclusion.
O
Yeah,
it
was
a
great
learning
experience
to
be
on
buncombe
county
board
of
adjustment,
because
you
know
it's
quasi-judicial
and
the
format
was
really
different
in
that
we
received
our
materials
in
the
meeting.
O
So
we
didn't
have
chance
to
really
form
an
opinion,
or
you
know
have
a
predetermined
course
of
action
ahead
of
time,
and
that
was,
I
think,
a
good
learning
experience
for
me,
because
there
there
are
a
lot
of
zoning
laws
and
regulations
that
have
to
be
followed,
and
I
can
remember
many
times
in
that
meeting.
O
I
was
very
active
participant
and
questioner
of
the
applicants.
I
can
remember
many
times
you
know
referring
to
that.
We
can't
make
decisions
outside
of
the
laws
that
exist.
We
have
to
follow
the
regulations
of
the
zoning
code,
so
you
know,
I
think
that
that
redoing
or
updating
the
comprehensive
plan
will
help
a
lot
of
what
we
were
experiencing
a
few
years
ago
with
the
board
of
adjustment,
because
we
were
seeing
growth,
rapid
growth,
you
know
there.
O
I
can
remember
one
project
that
was
in
the
out
near
grassy
branch,
that
area
it
was
a
beautiful
farmland
that
a
developer
wanted
to
turn
into
a
you
know
subdivision
and
my
heart
broke
about
that,
but
I
had
to.
He
met
all
the
regulations
and
I
had
to
I
had
to
vote
for
it.
You
know
legally,
I
was
required
to,
but
I
was
able
to
state
my
opinion
on
that
that
that
you
know
I
I
also
hurt
to
see
our
farmlands
be
lost,
and
you
know
the
growth
is
is
demanding
new
challenges.
O
So
I
think
that
I
think
I
bring
a
lot
a
good
skill
set
as
being
discerning
and
figuring
out
what
the
facts
are
and
and
helping
the
community
and
the
folks
in
attendance
to
understand
the
lots
of
conflicts
that
we
have
when
we're
making
those
kind
of
decisions.
C
Cindy,
what
do
you
see
as
like
the
most
urgent
and
highest
priority
land
use
policies
that
you
know
that
where,
where
our
current
policies
are
are
not
where
they
need
to
be
like?
What
do
you
see
as
the
highest
priorities
for
the
planning
board
and
the
commission
to
work
on
together
to
to
put
into
place?
What
are
the?
What
are
the
top
priorities?
You'd
advocate
for.
O
I
think
that
I've
I've
watched
again
going
back
to
east
haven
and
swannanelle.
I've
watched
how
the
county
planning
department
has
carefully
figured
out
ways
to
develop
these
kind
of
almost
like
urban
nodes,
but
in
the
in
the
you
know
outside
of
the
city
of
asheville,
and
that's
something
I've
been
thinking
about
for
a
really
long
time.
O
You
know
I
drive
around
the
county
and
swannanoa,
obviously
is
a
really
good
one
out
in
fairview
near
the
bilo,
where
the
library
and
post
office
is
that's
a
nice
node
that
could
be
developed,
there's
many
others
throughout
the
county
and
I
think
that's
an
urgent
need,
because
you
know
when
people
talk
to
me
about
density,
everybody's
against
density,
I
always
tell
them
with
that
density.
If
done
right,
we
can
preserve
our
mountaintops
and
our
rural
areas
and
even
some
of
our
farms
with
conservation
easements.
O
So
I
want
to
see
our
county
be
able
to
serve
everyone
that
needs.
You
know,
housing
our
place
for
their
business
but
at
the
same
time,
be
careful
about
preserving
our
culture
and
in
our
our
environment.
C
O
Except
that
I
want
to
say
that
I
do
have
lived
experience
as
a
low-income
single
mom
in
my
past
and
that
kind
of
steers
a
lot
of
my
decision-making
as
far
as
providing
force
all
of
our
citizens
and
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
hope
that
when
you're
deciding
for
members
for
the
planning
board,
that
you
are
encouraged
to
choose
through
diversity
and
both
through
male
female
culture
race
and
that
sort
of
thing
I
wouldn't
be
hurt,
if
someone
else
has
will
be
a
better.
O
I
guess
a
better
representative
of
the
community
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
on
that
is
I'm
really
glad.
I
looked
at
the
some
of
the
overview
for
the
comprehensive
plan
you're
about
to
do-
and
I
know
you're
going
to
have
kind
of
like
a
steering
committee,
and
I
think
in
that
area
too,
that's
a
really
good
opportunity
to
get
some
diversity
as
well,
and
I
would
be
very
committed
to
that.
If
selected.
C
F
You
hey
lamar,
I've
got
another
question
there.
I
don't
suppose
you
can
look
up
in
terms
of
upcoming
vacancies
for
the
buncombe
county
planning
board.
I
feel,
like
my
term,
was
going
to
end
in
march
of
this
year
and
I
think
some
of
my
former
colleagues
probably
were
too.
H
L
C
A
I
O
C
Hey
stacy,
have
you
heard
I
don't
know,
there's
been
any
decision
made
around
this?
Do
you
know
if
the
folks
who
are
going
to
serve
on
the
comprehensive
planning
steering
committee
has
that
been
discussed
as
something
that
the
commissioners
would
appoint
or
the
planning
staff
would
appoint,
or
has
that
been
not
decided?
Yet
at
this
time.
C
F
F
M
C
L
A
L
W
C
Sure
and
that'd
be
fine
and
then
we've
got.
Then
we've
got
a
few
questions.
We're
asking
each
of
the
applicants,
but
if
you'd.
L
W
Okay,
all
right,
I'm
a
retired
attorney.
I
have
represented
contractors
and
developers
in
the
past
and
of
course
they
want
to
make
money
nothing
wrong
with
that.
They
also
want
predictability
and
established
standards,
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity.
W
W
W
I
did
look
at
some
of
the
records
and
we
seem
to
be
highly
invested
in
well
water
and
septic
systems.
I
think
it's
important
that
those
spaces
be
protected
environmentally
and
I
come
from
well.
Actually
I
was
on
a
comprehensive
land
use
committee
from
where
I
came
from
northeastern
ohio
and
one
of
the
things
we
had
to
protect
were
water,
recharge
areas.
I
don't
know
if
that's
necessary
here.
I
assume
water
resources
is
very
good,
but
I
think
you
got
to
take
a
look
at.
A
W
C
E
Yes,
thank
you,
miss
rakoff,
and
some
of
this
you've
probably
already
hit
on
in
your
introduction,
but
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
ask
is:
what
do
you
believe
your
role
is
as
a
volunteer
on
this
board
and
what
skills
and
experience
do
you
specifically
want
to
contribute
to
this
board?
Okay,.
W
W
I'm
an
attorney
as
I
mentioned,
I've
represented
I'm
an
environmentalist,
but
I
represented
contractors
and
developers,
and
I
think
I
know
what
the
tugs
are
there.
You
know
they
want
predictability.
How
can
I
build
what
let's
see?
I
also
was
the
chair
of
a
watershed
committee,
and
I
did
that
for
probably
four
or
five
years,
and
that
was
called
the
yellow
creek
watershed
and
it
was
the
cleanest
tributary
into
the
coho
river,
which
some
of
you
are
too
young
to
recall,
but
that
was
the
river
that
caught
on
fire.
F
Hi
marianne,
thank
you
for
coming
on
your
willingness
to
to
serve
on
this
on
this
committee.
It's
good
to
see
you,
as
you
know,
our
community's
growing
rapidly.
Q
W
G
W
C
W
W
Our
population
is,
you
know,
centralized
we've
got
to
worry
about
all
those
areas
all
around,
like
you
know,
a
giant
necklace
around
the
county
center
and
look
at
things
like
preserving
water
quality,
preventing
or
reducing
stormwater
runoff,
one
of
my
pet
peeves
about
these
detention
retention
cells
that
builders
have
to
use
is
that
they
build
them.
Nobody
monitors
them
and
they
become
big
pits
for
you
know,
paper
and
bass,
cards
and
so
forth.
W
I
would
like
to
mention
that
our
planning
director
is
looking
at
chapel
hill
for
affordable
housing
and
the
apparently
they've
been
successful.
I
don't
know
what
the
state
real
estate
restraints
are,
but
you
know:
affordable
housing
is
another
really
important
concern
and
that
may
be
a
model.
C
C
C
Unfortunately,
not
so
anyway,
hey
great
to
see
you
and
thank
you
again
for
your
interest
in
serving
we
I'm
glad
you.
C
B
B
H
M
C
I'm
trying
to
speak
clearly
and
hey
mr
young.
Thank
you
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
we're
just
asking
all
the
applicants.
A
few
questions
and
commissioner
will
ask
the
first
question.
E
L
C
M
M
And
you
know
we're
currently
finished
we're
working
to
finish
the
courthouse
this
summer,
along
with
the
jail
exterior,
repairs,
I've.
I
was
involved
with
the
west
ash,
the
east,
asheville
library
and
currently
I've
been
involved
up
at
av
tech
for
a
number
of
years.
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
with
the
county.
M
I
was
the
project
executive
on
the
courthouse
when
we,
when
it
was
renovated,
I've
got
a
lot
of
construction
knowledge
and
I
think
that
knowledge
transfers
well
in
that
I'm
used
to
dealing-
and
I
deal
a
lot
with
all
the
architects
engineers
and
design
consultants.
You
know
in
the
region,
especially
around
in
buncombe
county.
M
They
know
me,
I
know
them,
and
you
know
what
I
thought
a
lot
of
my
time
is
spent
not
only
I'm
kind
of
the
30
000
foot
guy
when
it
goes
to
going
out
on
the
project,
because
I've
got
project,
managers
and
superintendents
that
work
for
me.
M
But
a
lot
of
my
time
spent
with
we
do
a
lot
of
cm
at
risk
which
mostly
well
all
the
projects
we've
done
with
the
county
are
doing
with
the
county
are
seeing
them
at
risk,
and
that
involves
dealing
with
the
owner
dealing
with
the
entire
design
team
from
the
architect,
the
structural
engineers,
the
civil
engineer,
you
know,
and
all
the
other
design
consultants
as
far
as
on
the
mep
side.
M
M
Involved
there
you
know
typically
a
lot
of
the
folks
on
the
on
the
on
the
planning
board.
You
know
everybody
has
their
strengths
and
weaknesses,
but
that's
what
I
do
day
in
and
day
out
is
review
drawings
and
look
at
drawings
and-
and
you
know,
look
at
you
know
what
kind
of
impact
that
any
given
development
or
project
could
have
on
the
environment.
M
You
know
the
people
that's
already
invested
in
in
the
neighborhood
or
in
an
area,
and
if
there's
anything
that
I
see
you
know
on
typically
it
would
be.
You
know
the
early
stage
would
be
the
preliminary
civil
drawings
and
literally
every
project
we
do
for
you
and
other
folks
using
the
cm
delivery
method.
M
I
typically
go
through
and
it's
one
of
my
many
jobs
is
review
the
documents
at
the
dd
phase,
sd
phase
and
the
cd
page
and
make
recommendations
as
far
as
conflict
resolution.
You
know
navigational
clarity,
possible,
ve
items,
so
you
know
this
is
pretty
much
in
my
wheelhouse.
That's
probably
the
biggest
thing
I
could
bring
to
the
board.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr
young
parker
stone's
got
the
next
question.
F
Hey
mr
young,
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question.
F
Another
problem,
I
want
to
ask
you
a
question
about
growth
and
your
philosophy
around
growth.
As
you
know,
our
community
is
growing
a
lot
and
we
expect
it
to
continue
to
grow
for
years
to
come.
When
you
hear
the
phrase
responsible
growth,
what
does
that
mean
to
you.
M
Well,
you're
exactly
right
and
being
in
the
industry.
I'm
in
you
know
I
I'm
glad
that
we're
to
grow,
but
you
can't
you
can't
have
unmanaged
growth.
You
know
it
needs
to
be
responsible
growth,
like
you
said,
and
what
that
means
is
you
know
number
one.
The
two
biggest
things
in
my
mind
would
be
you
know.
M
Short-Term
wise
is
looking
at
any
environmental
impact
and
also
the
impacts
on
the
people
that
have
already
expected
yourself
in
the
surrounding
process.
What
impact
is
positive
or
negative?
That's
gonna,
have
you
know
long-term
wise?
You
know
a
lot
of.
It
really
goes
back
to
the
zoning
and
and
things
like
that.
But
there's
there's
a
lot
of
impact
that
the
training
board
can
have
when
they're
when
they're
reviewing
any
given
project
and
whether
either
you
know
you
know
recommending
it
for
approval
or
not
recommending
it
to
approval.
M
But
you
know
we
are.
I
live
in
weaverville,
I'm
I'm
from
originally
from
birdsville.
I've
been
back
in
buncombe
county
for
32
years
now,
and
I
got
a
lot
of
invested
in
here.
I'm
taxpayer,
obviously,
as
we
all
are,
but
you
know,
as
a
group
and
as
a
community
and
as
a
county
we've
got
to
be
smart
and
trying
to
direct
any
any
projects
or
collectively
projects
and
types
of
projects.
F
C
Hey
hey,
mr
young,
this
is
brownie
newman.
Another
question
is
just
you
know
you
think
about
the
planning
board.
Part
of
the
job
is
to
review.
You
know
subdivision
plans
and
things
like
that,
and
obviously
you
got
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
great
experience
and
plan
review.
They
also
work
with
the
planning
staff
on
looking
at
new.
You
know
new
land
use
policies,
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
new
comprehensive
plan.
Do
do
you.
C
Okay,
that's
that's
great!
Our
last
question
that
we're
asking
everybody
it's
just.
Is
there
anything
else
you'd
like
to
share
with
us
that
you
haven't
already
or
hasn't
come
up
to
the
questions
we
already
asked
anything
else.
You
think
we
ought
to
know.
M
Well,
you
know
for
me
personally,
you
know
I've
got
a
lot.
Even
a
lot
invested
in
buckingham
county
number,
one
being
a
resident.
You
know,
I
think
our
our
road
infrastructure
was
obviously
buncombe.
County
has
very
limited
as
far
as
you
know,
some
infrastructure
problems
we're
having,
but
you
know
with
doing
all
the
projects
that
I've
done
with
the
county
over
the
years
and
seeing
how
things
work
you
know
like
for
me.
I
know:
there's
there's
been
some
smart
growth
in
the
past.
My
family's
been
perfect
and.
M
You
know
if
you're
looking
at
it
globally
for
the
county,
you
know
how
certain
things
are
going
to
impact
future
generations
in
our
county,
because
I've
got
you
know,
I've
got
five
kids
and
I've
got
five
grandkids
and
they
all
live
right
here
in
boston
county.
I'm
real
fortunate
and
I
I
think
they'll
be
living
here
long
after
I'm
done
so.
You
know,
if
there's
anything
I
can
do
you
know
to
help
facilitate.
C
Well,
mr
young,
we
appreciate
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
planning
board
and
those
are
all
the
questions
we
wanted
to
go
through.
So
thank
you
for
taking
time
we
appreciate
you
being
willing
to
call
in
and
and
go
through
the
same
questions.
We
were
asking
the
other
folks
and
we're
the
commission's
planning
on
making
the
appointments
to
the
planning
board
this
evening.
So
please
stay
tuned.
C
H
C
We
are
going
to
run
into
our
three
o'clock
meeting.
I
think
when
I
look
at
the
agenda,
for
that
I
mean
I
do
think,
we'll
probably
be
able
to
get
through
that.
If
so,
if
we
start
a
few
minutes
late,
it's
probably
okay,
so
I'm
happy
to
go
ahead
and
have
her
do
a
phone
interview.
Is
that
agreeable
to.
C
Q
B
Yes,
is
this
miss
sandra
hutchinson,
idiot
hey?
This
is
lamar
jordan.
With
the
commissioner's
office.
I
have
the
board
here
and
they're
going
to
conduct
the
interview
over
the
phone.
If
that's
okay
with
you.
B
Yes,
that's
fine,
okay
and
just
let
us
know
if
we,
if
you
can
hear
us
or
if
you
can't
hear
us
but
they're,
going
to
speak
on
this
conference
phone.
C
Hi,
this
is
county
commission,
chair,
brownie,
newman
standard.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
interest.
In
serving
on
the
planning
board.
We
have
just
a
couple
of
questions
that
we're
asking
on
each
of
the
applicants
for
the
planning
board
and
commissioner
terry
wells
is
going
to
ask
the
first
question.
Hello.
E
Q
You
know
I
have
kids
that
are
going
to
want
to
live
here,
they're
not
going
to
they're,
not
planning
on
leaving
the
area
they
weren't
in
the
area
and
just
affordable
housing
and
for
them
like.
What's
it
going
to
be
like
for
them
to
have
something,
you
know
when
they're
ready
to
purchase
something
as
they
say,
local
I've.
Also
I
like
to
deal
with
work.
O
A
Q
Be
around
270,
which
I
think
was
a
lot
of
the
usda
direct
loans
of
270..
Well,
now
we
breathe
we're
getting
a
house,
a
new
house
home
is
around
300.,
and
so
I'm
not
saying
hardly
you
know
really
anybody
who
must
very,
very
scared,
very
well
dogs
that
you
come
to
asphalt
and
as
a
young
family
start,
you
know
to
buy
a
house
and
then
they
turn
around
and
rent
is
so
high.
So
I'm
saying
that
is
a
problem
and
you
know
we
build
houses
me
and
my
cousins.
Q
Q
F
Awesome,
thank
you
sandra.
This
is
parker
sloan,
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
question
about
growth
and
your
philosophy
on
on
growth,
as,
as
you
know,
since
you've
you've
lived
here
for
a
long
time,
the
community
continues
to
grow
and
we
certainly
expect
it
to
to
grow
for
many
years
to
come.
I'm
curious
what
you
think
of
the
phrase
responsible
growth
and
what
responsible
growth
means
to
you.
Q
Okay,
so
I
like
space,
that's
why
I
don't
live
in
a
city,
I've,
I've.
Never
I
just
I
like
to
visit,
but
I
don't
think
I
want
to
live
where
I
can,
like
you
know,
scream
something
in
the
next
door.
Neighbor
like
like
they're
right
there,
I'm
not
a
I'm,
not
much
of
a
city
person,
I'm
a
county
person
and
you
know
different
lifestyles
in
different
places
and
different
ways.
Q
Well,
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
that
changed
where
now
builders
don't
want
those
big
pieces
of
land
because
of
problems
that
come
with
that,
but
if
we
could
come
to
an
agreement
that
was
a
win-win
for
the
county.
The
builders,
the
real
estate
problems
the
first
time
home
buyers.
If
we
could
get
farther
out
in
the
country,
you
know
move
out.
You
know
a
little
more
lester
that
really
not
that
many
people
want
to
live.
What
they
call
sandy.
Q
Anymore,
so
I'm
just
thinking
that
we
should
use
our
resources
and
not
everybody
has
to
be
crammed
right
in
the
vicinity
of
the
city
or
what
we
used
to
call
etj.
But
maybe
can
we
spread
out
a
little
bit
and
you
know
I
know
what
the
rules
are.
As
far
as
you
know,
you
can
split
it
three
times
in
three
years
and
and
so
forth.
I
understand
it
from
that
aspect
and
you.
Q
That
I
get
that
aspect
totally,
I
think
that's
responsible,
you
know,
and
I
think
the
big
thing
is,
is
what
are
the
rules
and
like
make
those
rules
where
they're,
black
and
white
universal,
and
you
tell
somebody
this
is
what
you
need
to
do,
and
this
is
what
you
would
have
to
do
to
make
this
work
and
then,
when
they
fulfill
that,
though
that's
the
end
of
it.
It's
not.
Oh
we'll
do
this
now,
we've
changed
our
mind.
We
want
this
done.
Q
When
I
think,
if
we
work
together,
anybody
you
think,
if
we
all
have
the
same
goals
in
mind,
you
just
might
see
a
different
way
of
getting
there
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
I.
I
believe,
I
believe
that
everybody
shouldn't
be
on
top
of
each
other.
That's
been
what
it
is
in
the
mountains.
This
has
been
how
it
is
I
don't,
but
at
the
same
time
we've
got
to
give
it
where
yeah.
A
Q
A
S
C
Thank
you,
hey
sandra
we're,
we're
just
we're
just
about
out
of
time,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask:
are
there
any?
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
the
commission
about
your
interest
in
serving
on
the
planning
board
that
hasn't
already
come
out
to
the
questions
that
we've
we've
already
asked.
Q
Way
like,
if
you
guys
say
well,
this
is
a
you
know,
I'm
a
very,
very
good
black.
I
guess
my
best
attribute
is,
I
think
you
there's
a
way
to
always
get
along
like
I
don't
feel
like
there's
people
really
that
you
just
can't
work
with.
I
think
that
the
anything
is
workable
and
I
think
if
you
can
find
out,
okay,
is
there
a
common
goal
that
everybody
wants?
I'm
a
problem
summer
like
it's,
it's
a
challenge
for
me
to
be
like
okay!
Q
A
Q
Q
I
see
like
well,
why
not
this
or
what
I'm
a
good
problem
solver
taking
nothing
and
making
something,
that's
kind
of
me
and
I
don't
need
to
go
on
and
I
hope
it's
kind
of
hard,
not
faith
to
face
tonight.
C
It
we
appreciate
all
your
answers
to
each
of
the
questions
that
we
had
and
your
willingness
to
serve
on
the
planning
board
and
you
bring
some
great
experience
to
the
table.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
talking
to
us
this
afternoon.
The
the
commissioners
are
planning
on
making
the
appointments
to
this
board
this
evening.
So
please
stay
tuned
and
we'll
be
in
touch
with
where
we
go
with
these
decisions,
and
thank
you
again
for
taking
time
to
talk
to
us
today.
C
I'm
going
to
ask
that
question
to
our
clerk:
did
we?
How
do
we
follow
up
with
the
candidates.
C
There's
three
there's
three
positions
that
we're
appointing
and
I
think
we've
got
six
or
seven
candidates,
so
so
yeah,
that's
that's
the
number
of
people
that
we're
looking
at
for
tonight.
There
will
be
other
applica.
There
will
be
other
positions
that
come
open
on
the
planning
board
in
the
future
as
well,
but
those
are
the
ones
we're
deciding
tonight.
C
Thank
you
so
much
goodbye
bye,
all
right.
Commissioners.
Thank
you.
All,
let's
take
a
let's
take,
let's
take
a
seven
minute
break,
so
we
start
at
at
3,
15.,
okay,.