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A
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
August
16
2011
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission,
to
order
and
I'll
ask
that
you
join
me
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
on
your
own,
individual
liberties,
justice
for
all
and.
A
A
Thank
you
for
the
public
servants
that
are
no
longer
with
us,
including
captain
Jeff,
Bowen
and
John
Mark
robe
help
their
families
find
comfort
in
their
change
and
their
loss.
How
far
community
heal
from
the
grief
we
feel
from
the
passing
of
these
two
fine
young
men
God.
Thank
you
for
the
mountains,
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway,
the
weather,
the
people.
A
A
We
are
so
fortunate
to
live
in
a
place
that
has
a
diversity
and
as
a
tolerance,
it
has
a
common
community
and
a
joy
in
doing
day-to-day
things
in
such
a
pretty
place,
amen
in
accordance
with
the
Board
of
Ethics.
Excuse
me,
the
code
of
ethics,
adopted
by
the
board.
It's
the
duty
of
every
board
member
to
avoid
the
actual
and
apparent
appearance
of
conflict.
Does
any
board
member
know
of
any
known
or
potential
appearance
of
a
conflict
of
interest
to
any
matter
coming
before
the
board.
Today,.
B
B
A
B
A
A
He
will
update
us
on
a
planning
study,
that's
going
on
and
we
have
a
resolution
that
the
board
will
consider
at
the
close
of
his
discussion,
about
possibly
creating
a
overlooked
for
the
city
of
Asheville
to
show
off
our
beautiful
downtown
area
from
accessible
from
the
Blue
Ridge
Park
one
superintendent
Francis.
Thank
you
for
being
here
not.
C
Q,
mr.
chairman,
it's
great
to
be
here
as
always
good
to
see
the
board.
We
certainly
enjoyed
a
wonderful
relationship
with
both
Buncombe
County
and
we
look
forward
to
many
more
years
of
a
good
relationship
with
the
county.
You
know
the
Parkway
just
celebrated
its
75th
anniversary
last
year,
and
you
guys
played
an
important
role
in
that
and
we're
so
blessed.
As
you
mentioned,
the
have
the
Blue,
Ridge,
Parkway
and,
and
so
many
wonderful
communities
along
is
469
mile
length.
C
We
have
many
issues
and
we're
attempting
to
address
those
issues
through
our
planning
process,
including
a
general
management
plan
which
should
be
finished
later
this
year.
In
fact,
as
I've
been
told
it's
on
its
way
to
the
printers
we
hope
to
schedule
public
meetings
sometime,
this
fall
we're
also
working
on
a
developed
area
management
plan
at
the
moses
cone
estate.
C
Once
we
finished
these
planning
efforts
said-
and
let
me
mention
that
those
three
efforts
of
taking
a
considerable
amount
of
time
we
plan
to
begin
a
similar
planning
effort
as
part
of
your
ongoing
work
to
develop
greenways
in
this
region,
to
look
at
the
Blue,
Ridge,
Parkway
and
parking
issues
and
overlook
issues
and
recreational
issues
through
the
asheville
and
buncombe
county
corridor,
and
so
after
having
read
your
resolution,
I
must
say
that
we're
in
total
agreement
with
that
we
want
to
consider
such
an
overlook.
We
think
one
may
be
possible.
C
There
aren't
many
places
on
the
Parkway
where
you
can
actually
see
the
downtown
area,
but
there
is
at
least
one
and
as
identified
by
map
which
I
have
before
me.
An
issue
may
note,
as
you
drive
down
after
going
up
to
the
piss,
can
which
no,
you
must
do
regularly
and
have
a
fine
dinner
on
your
way.
Back
down
the
mountain,
you
may
recall
where
you
can
see
the
biltmore
estate.
If
you
were
to
look
toward
Asheville
you'll
note
at
that
place,
that
is
about
the
only
place.
It
may
be.
C
The
only
place
where
you
can
see
the
Asheville
city
from
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway,
according
to
our
analysis
and
by
driving
up
and
down
the
Parkway,
we
thought
there
might
be
two
we
think
there's
now
one,
but
we
have
to
go
through
a
planning
process
to
receive
public
input.
We
have
to
look
at
the
impacts
of
the
both
the
natural
and
cultural
resources.
We
have
to
consider
our
operational
capacity
to
to
build
and
maintain
such
an
overlooked,
and
should
we
decide
to
do
so
after
receiving
public
am
putting
going
through
the
decision
process?
C
We
would
certainly
look
to
the
Commission
to
partner
to
be
a
partner
in
this
effort,
so
I'll
be
happy
to
entertain
any
questions.
It's
an
exciting
idea
is
certainly
something
that
I
think
will
be
enjoyed
by
thousands,
if
not
hundreds
of
thousands
of
people,
and
we
certainly
appreciate
the
chairman
for
giving
us
a
call
and
and
want
them
to
talk
about
this
idea.
Mr.
A
C
I,
don't
know
the
details
of
that
way.
You're
right
there
isn't
overlooked
there.
That
looks
down
upon
the
upon
the
city.
It's
interesting
that
at
that
particular
location.
You
can
also
see
poor
mountain,
which
is
now
a
location
for
maybe
as
many
as
16
or
20
huge
wind
turbines
about
six
miles
away,
but
but
there
is,
there
is
an
overlook
there.
So
the
having
an
overlooked
here
in
Asheville
is
certainly
not
a
new
precedent.
Setting
move
because
one
does
exist.
C
D
B
C
There's
only
one
other
wait,
a
couple
of
the
ways
really
that
we
could
we
could
obtain
monetary
support.
One
would
be
through
donations
of
French
groups
such
as
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway
foundation.
Of
course,
federal
appropriations
would
be
required
otherwise,
or
we
could
enter
to
a
partnership
arrangement
with,
as
we've
done
with
other
counties
and
communities
along
the
Parkway
to
to
accomplish
needed
projects.
C
For
example,
if
we
look
at
Haywood
County
just
to
our
south,
the
TDA
there
donated
fifteen
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
several
years
to
ensure
that
our
vistas
in
their
County
were
being
cleared.
Recognizing
that
the
economic
benefit
to
their
counties
is
significantly
more
than
the
amount
of
money
that
they
were
donating
to
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway
to
keep
as
vistas,
clear
and
functioning.
C
C
A
C
F
A
Questions
I
think
the
intent
of
the
resolution
is
to
support
the
concept
and
there's
a
lot
of
you
have
a
lot
of
rules
you
have
to
follow,
but
that
someone
has
to
get
suggested,
I
think
to
count
on
and
show
interest
and
I
think
that's
something
you'll
be
looking
for
from
other
people
to
say.
Well,
what's
the
interest
level?
Is
this
something
that's
that
has
community
support,
but.
C
A
C
Correct
and
what
really
began
this
was
in
roanoke.
We
had.
This
is
a
funny
story,
but
we
had
a
fellow
who
created
a
trail
from
his
own
property
to
the
parkway,
and
we
we
eradicated
that
trail
and-
and
he
disagreed
with
us
and
recreated
the
trail,
and
we
eradicated
the
trail,
and
it
got
to
the
point
that
we
were
going
to
issue
a
citation
to
this
gentleman
for
his
good
work.
C
So
we
want
to
do
the
same
thing
here
in
Asheville
in
the
in
the
Buncombe
County
area.
People
are
parking
there
for
a
reason
there
parking
there
because
of
access
to
the
mountains
of
sea
trail.
If
we
want
to
see
what
makes
the
most
sense
to
address
that
parking
issue
and
also
to
provide
access,
while
at
the
same
time
fulfilling
our
fundamental
mission,
which
is
to
protect
the
natural
and
cultural
resources
in
a
wildlife
and
in
such
a
way
and
such
means
is
to
leave
them
money
for
future
generations
and
I
certainly
hope
that
mr.
C
A
C
C
A
Alrighty
any
other
questions
again.
This
is
a
support
and
requesting
support
the
construction,
showcasing
downtown
ash
ball
on
the
Blue
Ridge
Parkway
as
it
passes
through
buncombe
and
we're
pledging
our
cooperation
and
participation.
Is
the
process
moves
along
as
much
as
we
can
yeah
any
other
questions
or
comments?
I
would.
A
A
F
What
I
was
going
to
him
in
the
corner?
I
went
back
and
talking
about
it
anyway.
How
many
of
you
know
the
history
of
the
parkway?
Why
is
it
there?
It
was
bought
by
timber
companies
and
clear-cut
and
the
land
was
there
in
the
original
Road.
You
had
views
for
miles
and
miles
and
miles
and
I'm
not
95
years
old
right,
but
I
can
remember
you
can
too,
when
you
drive
the
parkway,
you
could
see
out
all
along
there.
F
You
can't
anymore,
because
we
have
a
philosophy
that
trees
never
replenish
themselves,
and
I
was
just
talking
with
them
about
the
other.
Overlooks
they've
got
how
many
of
them
can
you
see
out
of
very
few,
so
move
is
private
property.
Others
is
properly,
they
have
it,
they
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
it.
F
So
I
would
like
to
see
in
your
future
vision
debut
see
if
we
can't
do
something
in
this
county
to
recruit
volunteers,
to
take
over
and
adopt
one
of
those
are
fine,
the
landowner
and
talk
to
the
landowners
see
if
they
would
not
be
willing
to
have
their
trees
harvested.
So
you
can
see
out
because
I
think
that
would
do
a
lot
of
good
and
for
the
park
where
the
pull
off
that
he's
got
proposed.
A
B
A
A
Next,
up
got
some
good
laughs
up
here.
Okay,
next
up
is
resolution
directing
the
Board
of
Education
Board
of
Elections
to
conduct
an
advisory
referendum
on
the
one
quarter.
Cent
one
quarter,
percent
sales
and
tax
Houston
tax
in
accordance
with
NC
105,
539
I.
Think
we're
going
to
have
mr.
free
talk.
Let's
see
Oh
dr.
dunner.
Excuse
me,
excuse
me
105
537,
and
we
have
dr.
ain't
done
from
a
BTEC
to
talk
about
this
resolution
and
tell
us
how
we're
doing
yes,
sir
dr.
J
Dunn
good
see
you
good
to
see
you
guys
again
too
good
afternoon,
but
we
are
busy
out
there
talking
about
this
resolution.
Things
are
interesting.
What
we're
finding
is
that
when
you
say
the
word
tax
yeah,
it
sort
of
flies
in
people's
face
and
the
word
taxes
go
almost
gotten
to
be
a
four-letter
word
now,
instead
of
a
three-letter
word.
J
But
when
you
begin
to
peel
the
onion
skin
back
and
we've
talked
with
individuals
and
groups
and
people
all
over
Buncombe
County
when
they
understand
the
need
for
this
tax
to
be
given
to
a
BTEC
for
us
to
renovate
and
improve
our
facilities,
then
the
layers
come
off
very
easily
and
when
they
understand
that
we
don't
have
many
other
ways
to
do
this.
We
can't
raise
our
own
tuition.
We
can't
save
our
state
dollars.
We
can't
save
money,
because
what
we
do
save
goes
back.
We
haven't
found
our
bill
gates.
J
But
what
happens
is
when
we
begin
to
talk
about
abtech,
having
been
there
for
52
years
going
to
be
here
for
another
150
two
years,
then
people
begin
to
understand.
This
is
really
an
investment
in
our
community
and
they
understand
that
and
we've
talked
to
them
about
the
things
that
we
talk
with
you
about.
We've
talked
about
the
amount
of
money
that
we
wanted
to
raise
and
that
money
is
to
help
us
with
critical
infrastructure
needs
on
campus.
J
You
know
up
Fitz
fixes,
sidewalks
the
parking,
lots,
hvac
issues
and
yes,
there's
a
new
building
in
there
as
well.
But
the
majority
of
this
is
information
that
has
to
do
with
our
infrastructure.
We
are
not
taking
trips
to
Europe,
we're
not
hiring
10,000
new
people,
we're
investing
in
our
community
and
the
buildings
that
will
be
here
for
a
long
long
time.
Someone
called
our
attention
ray
you'd,
get
understand
this.
J
The
folks
who
are
using
our
building
this
year,
the
seniors
who
are
graduating
and
coming
to
a
BTech
this
year,
were
the
ones
who
had
the
initial
bond
by
the
state
bond
issue
back
in
1992,
so
they're
the
beneficiaries
of
somebody
deciding
I'm
going
to
invest
in
the
future
and
18
years
later.
Those
folks
are
getting
the
beneficent.
The
folks
who
invest
this
year
and
give
this
advisory
referendum
are
going
to
vote
for
themselves
for
this
year,
but
also
for
the
people
coming
down.
J
This
is
a
tax
that
we've
been
talking
about
extensively
in
the
community.
We've
talked
with
the
finance
area
and
with
wand
as
well.
This
is
something
we
want
to
sunset.
There
was
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
nine
million
dollars
that
we're
trying
to
raise
it
is
for
critical
buildings.
It
doesn't
build
all
the
buildings.
We
need
in
fact,
as
we
got
into
it,
and
we
were
trying
to
incorporate
some
of
the
costs
of
operations,
so
we
don't
have
to
come
back
here
one
day
or
we
have
to
find
them.
J
We
really
found
out
that
we
couldn't
build
everything
we
wanted
to
build
based
on
the
cost
we
have
so
we've
eliminated
three
buildings
that
we
would
have
told
you
about.
Early
on
and
I'll
mention
those
three
to
you.
There
were
buildings
that
were
coming
further
down
the
pike
anyway,
but
right
now
we
took
off
the
health
and
wellness
building
did
not,
you
know,
did
not
have
enough
money
to
get
there.
J
We
took
off
the
extension
or
the
enlargement
of
the
administration
building,
although
it's
what's
needed
and
we
took
off
a
larger
classroom
building
because
it
was
further
down
the
road
anyway.
But
with
all
that
we
can
build
those
big
things
we
need.
Now
we
can
borrow
some
funding.
This
does
expire
that
would
sunset
in
20
29
and
it
would
be
gone
in
20
29,
but
the
community
would
have
invested
in
itself.
It
would
have
major
infrastructure
improvements.
J
It
would
let
us
add,
programs
and
services
that
could
lead
to
new
jobs
and
create
new
jobs,
and
people
ask
me
all
the
time.
Well,
Hank
how's,
that
possible
that
you're
creating
new
jobs.
Well,
one
our
health
building
is
a
big
thing
for
us.
It's
not
the
only
thing
we
have
six
new
programs
that
we
would
like
to
add.
We
don't
have
the
space
to
add
those
programs.
Now
we
have
additional
programs
that
have
to
do
with
other
other
types
of
programs
that
building
a
new
building
would
free
up
for
us.
J
J
Actually,
we
think
save
some
money
in
building
this
process
and
although
we
are
a
public
agency-
and
we
can't
guarantee
that
it
would
be
only
Buncombe
County
residents
who
get
those
jobs
in
the
process
of
building
and
repairing
our
facilities,
we
need
surveyors
and
electricians
and
carpenters,
&
construction
workers
and
those
things
give
jobs
now.
So,
in
addition
to
the
jobs
we're
creating
in
the
long
haul,
with
additional
programming
we're
actually
putting
folks
to
work
to
now
as
well.
So
we
think
this
is
an
investment
in
the
community.
J
If
I
was
a
betting,
man
and
I
am
betting
right
now,
I
guess
I.
Think
this
single
pass
and
I
think
it
will
pass
well
we're
getting
good
support
in
the
community
and
I
think
what
we
have
going
for
us
is
about
two
things.
One
is
when
most
people
understand
that
the
money
amount,
the
amount
of
this
tax
is
so
minuscule
to
most
people.
J
If
it
was
a
BTEC,
you
were
giving
the
money
to
it,
be
25
cents
and
when
people
understand
how
miniscule
amount
it
is,
but
when
you
wrap
all
those
dollars
together
to
get
in
what
is
equivalent
today
of
six
or
seven
million
dollars,
we
are
just
finding
people
saying
yes,
absolutely.
How
can
we
help
you
and
how
can
we
support
it?
I
know
there
will
be
people
out
there
who
are
ideologically
against
any
tax,
but
I
would
say
what
they
really
are
probably
are
against.
Is
a
wasted
tax?
This
isn't
a
waste
attack.
A
K
K
First
answer
David's
question:
he
was
pointing
out
that
the
language
of
the
of
the
enabling
legislation,
as
well
as
the
election
laws,
require
specific
language
for
the
ballot.
But
let
me
show
you
how
we
get
to
that
on
this
resolution.
It
was
back
in
2007,
his
legislature
passed
an
act
said
one
quarter,
cent
county
sales
and
use
taxes
that
would
authorize
counties
to
levy
additional
sales
and
use
taxes
so
in
in
order
to
levy
such
a
local
sale,
and
you
stack,
the
board
must
request
an
order
and
advisory
referendum.
K
So
here
we
clearly
hear
the
needs
of
the
colleges
in
need
of
many
major
repairs
and
capital
improvements,
and
by
this
resolution
the
commission
would
like
to
get
the
voter
approval
for
such
a
such
a
one.
Quarter
percent
sales
tax
increase
and
direct
the
Board
of
Elections
to
hold
such
at
the
referendum
during
the
general
election
on
november
eighth
of
this
year.
K
This
would
kick
in.
I
believe
in
donna
will
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
in
march
or
april
of
next
year,
if
it
would,
if
it
were
to
be
approved
it's
april,
and
so
that's
what
we
would
ask
is.
We
should
include
with
this
resolution
from
the
charge,
I
would
recommend
a
sunset
provision.
We
were
looking
at
17
years
past
the
inception
date,
which
would
bring
us
two
year
2029.
K
B
K
A
K
I
I
L
K
H
A
A
Okay,
well,
if
I
think,
people
really
need
to
see
like
what
we're
doing
and
this
cash
flow
I
think
that's
also
was
this
okay,
there
we
do
have
a
cash
flow
that
will
show
what
the
money
is
going
to
be
spent
on
specifically
and
for
each
year,
where
you're
going
to
spend
it
and
then
showing
that
it
cuts
off
all
right.
We
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
board
before
we
take
public
comment
here,
all
right,
I'll
call.
A
M
Am
Reverend,
Lisa,
Landis
and
I
know
that
abtech
was
to
partner
with
you
our
TV
at
a
certain
point
in
time,
but
from
what
I
have
heard,
it
was
the
negative
comments
that
were
coming
from
the
county
that
they
decided
not
to
partner
with
you
our
TV.
So
I
am
wondering
why,
if
it
is
a
school,
does
not
a
school
research,
the
facts
before
they
make
decisions,
so
I
am
questioning
as
to
all
of
the
information
that
they're
bringing
forward.
Thank.
N
Hi,
my
name
is
Eric
corny
I
live
in
swannanoa.
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
saying
I
love
a
BTEC.
My
daughter
goes
to
a
vtec,
it's
helping
my
own
family,
so
just
to
start
off
that
way,
but
I
would
like
to
ask
the
board
to
table
the
resolution
just
for
now
just
to
delay
it.
If
you
don't
know,
I
have
a
background
in
construction.
I
have
a
lot
of
friends
in
construction.
N
Now,
if
we
increase
the
sales
tax
by
a
quarter
cent
I
know
it's
not
a
lot,
but
when
you're
talking
about
those
volumes,
it
adds
up
quickly
and
it
will
cost
him
jobs.
It'll
call
it'll
cost
him
it'll
come
it'll,
be
a
turning
decision
for
some
people
to
say:
okay,
this
is
too
high.
We're
not
going
to
do
it
right
now.
I'd
also
like
to
give
another
example:
I
I
used
to
work
in
the
tile
industry
I
know
a
lot
of
tile
setters.
N
If,
if
somebody's
going
to
spend
about
three
thousand
dollars
on
tile
to
improve
their
bathroom
and
that
quarter,
cent
sales
tax
adds
up,
it
could
be
a
tipping
point
to
them.
Saying
you
know
what
this
is
just
too
much.
We
can
do
it
or
you're
going
to
force
the
people
that
are
doing
the
labor
to
lower
their
price
even
more.
N
To
get
the
job
and
I
know.
You
guys
understand
that
we
have
an
under
employment
problem
in
Buncombe
County
right
now,
and
the
construction
industry
has
really
been
hit
hard
and
any
type
of
sales
tax.
At
this
moment,
I'm
not
saying
never,
do
it
I'm
just
saying
at
this
moment
our
economy,
our
economic
stability
right
here
is
just
too
unstable
to
allow
a
quarter
cent
sales
tax,
especially
something
that
will
directly
affect
the
service
industry
and
as
a
side
note
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
know
ethically.
N
You
guys
were
talking
about
at
the
beginning
to
ethics,
about
a
conflict
of
interest,
I'm
no
offense
to
Commissioner
Bailey,
but
isn't
this
a
conflict
of
interest
I
mean
he
retired
from
a
BTech?
They
have
a
building
named
after
him.
I
didn't
know
if
that
would
be
a
conflict
of
interest.
Just
a
question
not
trying
to
insult
anybody.
I
just
just
was
making
a
statement.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
Yeah,
obviously,
there's
no
good
time
to
ask
for
these
kind
of
things,
but
perhaps
this
is
really
a
better
time,
because
in
addition
to
the
one
quarter,
cent
remember
that
the
state
has
sunsetted
the
whole
one
cent
tax.
So
actually,
in
this
year
the
average
buncombe
county
resident
will
be
paying
three
quarters
of
a
cent
less,
even
when
this
does
go
through
or
when.
If
it
does
get
there
hopefully
does
go
through,
so
they
actually
pay
a
little
bit
less.
J
O
I
understand
my
name:
is
Mike
fired
from
Fairview
I
understand
what
he's
saying
on
a
quarter
percent
tax
but
yeah.
We
did
drop
one
cent,
but
if
we
keep
going
up
we're
going
to
be
as
close
to
Tennessee
at
9.2
percent,
but
they
have
no
state
tax
period.
You
know
nine
point
two
cents:
they
they
don't
send
money
to
the
state
out
of
their
paychecks.
O
So
I
want
our
kids
to
have
things,
that's
good,
but
you
got
a
sunset
of
17
years:
I'm
standing
here
and
I'm,
probably
not
the
right
person
to
speak,
but
I
do
smoke
out
of
every
pack
of
cigarettes.
County
is
getting
about
two
and
a
half
cents
on
the
dollar.
So
five
dollars,
that's
ten
cents,
but
you
all
made
the
decision
that
we
couldn't
smoke
on
the
property
that
work
that
you're
drawing
two
and
a
half
cents
from
from
the
county
people.
So
I
am
NOT
for
the
quarter
percent
to
sales
tax.
I
want
this.
O
O
It
should
be
put
in
a
county
election.
They
can
make
it
one
more
year,
and
you
know
when,
when
we
have
the
election
for
the
commissioners
and
out
of
that,
that's
the
biggest
election,
it
does
not
need
to
be
in
a
midstream
year
when
it's
basically
just
a
CD
voting
event.
I
understand
that
come
up
with
eighty
thousand
dollars
from
somewhere.
O
Nobody
I
tell
us
where
to
put
the
ballots
out,
but
they
will
not
give
names
of
supposedly
people
that
donated
many
and
that's
not
fair
to
the
people
of
buncombe
county
they're,
the
ones
that's
trying
to
get
us
to
pay
a
quarter
percent
on
everything
that
we
buy.
Like
mr.
Gornick
said,
if
you
buy
a
million
dollars
worth
of
stuff
to
build
a
house,
then
you
add
a
quarter
percent
to
it,
figure
it
at
a
comment
and
it
no
different
name.
O
They
wouldn't
pay
it
because
basically
they're
a
non-profit,
but
there's
a
different
way
to
do
this.
But
it's
not
in
the
city
election,
it's
in
the
county
election
when
you
got
200,000
people
available,
but
instead
78
and
then
spread
it
out
a
few
places
with
their
$80,000
for
people
to
vote.
So
thanks
for
you
to
hike.
P
My
name
is
Linda
third
I'm
from
candler.
I
also
am
asking
that
the
election
be
moved
and
tow
it
to
a
county
of
action
on
a
city
election.
The
name
of
the
the
facility
is
a
BTEC
buncombe
county
serves
buncombe
county.
Why
should
only
the
people
in
asheville
asheville
predominantly
be
the
ones
voting
for
this
number?
One
number
two
you're
right
that
we
sent
the
one
percent
sales
tax
did
some
Sun
or
one
per
ton,
texted
sunset
with
not
from
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
P
However,
you
all
are
aware
that
our
gas
tax
has
been
increased
by
two
and
a
half
cents,
and
that
has
I.
Think
for
a
lot
of
people
is
our
gas
is
now
one
of
the
highest,
if
not
the
highest
in
the
south,
you
can
go
into
North
you're
into
South
Carolina,
and
you
can
fill
up
with
a
gas,
your
tank
for
312,
a
gallon,
and
up
here
you
pay
360
a
gallon.
That's
a
big
difference.
The
other
question
that
I
have
for
the
people
at
a
BTEC.
P
Is
you
know
when
these
schools
have
to
have
budgets
and
every
year
you
have
a
budget
in
the
budget?
I'm
sure
has
that
I
haven't
seen
it
but
I'm
sure
it
has
an
item.
You
know
repairs,
you
know
what
has
been
capital
improvements.
What's
been
done
with
that
money
in
the
past.
Where
has
that
money?
It
was
that
not
factored
in
was
in
the
budget.
Did
somebody
use
that
for
something
else,
I
guess?
P
F
Would
be
everything
I
said
the
last
time
which
included
you
know,
commercials
run
with
you
Commission
again
and
the
mayor
it
prior
to
their
announced
that
they're
going
to
have
this
courtesan
sales
tax,
but
I
congratulate
them
on
stopping
those
commercials.
Now
that
they've
made
the
tax
of
public
also
I
think
it's
amazing
to
me
that
they
can
afford
to
pay
for
opening
up
all
those
places
for
the
election
to
occur.
F
I
mean
this
tells
me
that
they're
they're
willing
to
spend
money
to
get
a
tax
dollar,
but
they're
not
willing
to
spend
money
to
save
money.
And,
furthermore,
a
comment
was
made
that
you
can't
add
into
your
ballot
what
you
really
want
to
put
there
because
of
that
legislation.
Well,
that
legislation
is
the
same
party
that
everyone,
if
you
are,
that,
put
that
rule
of
that
legislation.
Mr.
Stanley
and
I'm
not
going
to
remind
you
that
it
was
the
opposing
administration
to
everyone
that
you
are,
that
lowered
the
one
percent
sales
tax.
F
So
do
what
you're
going
to
do
folks
you're
going
to
pass
this
I
know.
You
are
because
how
many
members
of
this
commission
have
been
on
the
board
at
a
vtec?
You
didn't
ask
that
question.
You
should
have
so
it's
a
cut,
deal
died
and
done
is
going
to
pass,
but
it's
not
going
to
pass
once
you
get
to
the
polls
as
easy
as
you
think,
because
it
is
a
bad
time.
F
It
is
the
time
that
everybody
is
looking
at
where
their
money
goes
and
everybody
is
counting
their
pennies,
because
some
people
can't
afford
the
gas
they
can't
afford
it
they're
having
to
choose
what
they
do
with
their
car.
So
a
quarter
percent
sales
tax
doesn't
sound
like
a
lot,
but
at
a
quarter
percent
of
time
is
what's
created
this
debt
that
we
face
in
this
country,
so
we
are
going
to
have
to
learn
how
to
do
own
Les,
how
to
get
boundless
and
how
to
stretch
the
dollar
and
by
putting
a
courtesan
sales.
F
Tax,
in
effect,
is
not
stretching
the
dollar
it's
taking
dollars
from
the
people,
and
if
you
follow
eric
goings
logic,
it's
going
to
affect
the
lowest
person
on
the
totem
pole
in
Buncombe
County
the
most
because
they
can't
afford
the
quarter
I'm
sure
most
of
you
can't
afford
the
quarter,
especially
with
the
Sowers
that
you
make.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
G
Thank
You,
mr.
chairman
members
board,
is
very
rice
coming
from
camera.
There's
hot
topic:
no,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
this
tax,
I'm
in
favor
of
a
be
tagged,
I'm
in
favor
of
what
to
do.
I'm
alumni
from
there
I
think
I
went
to
her
a
couple
of
years
back
even
for
mr.
Bailey
was
there,
and
that
tells
you
a
little
bit.
But
the
point
is
that
if
this
is
such
a
critical
need,
how
did
it
get
to
be
a
critical
need
in
the
time
that
you
observe
mr.
Bailey
and
before?
G
If
that
is
a
critical
need?
Why
was
it
brought
not
brought
to
the
county
commissioners
even
before
then,
and
why
wasn't
it
brought
even
before
now,
even
with
a
board
member
sitting
there
now
on
the
board
of
the
trustees
and
a
sister
county
manager?
Why
was
all
this
not
even
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
board
and
done
something
about
earlier?
I
have
some
very
upsetting
questions
and
the
Board
of
Trustees
has
got
them
they've
had
them
I
gave
them
to
him.
I
brought
you
all
a
bunch
of
questions
on
january
of
2011.
G
I
believe
it
was.
I
could
be
wrong
on
the
date.
There's
a
whole
list
of
question.
The
county
manager
answered
some
of
them.
She
said
I
can't
answer
the
rest
of
them.
I
sent
him
to
the
a
BTEC
president
here,
mr.
Dunn,
and
they
ain't
been
answered.
I've
asked
him
again.
They
still
haven't
been
answered.
I've
asked
the
board
to
get
him
some
questions
answered.
They
claim
to
be
transparent,
they're
not
transparent
at
all,
because
I've
been
to
their
meetings.
G
They
snubbed
me
at
the
meeting
and
didn't
even
want
me
to
participate,
and
now
they
didn't
even
have
their
transparency
online.
They
call
herself
transparency,
don't
even
have
their
board
meetings.
Materials
with
us
until
recently
and
I
walked
into
the
first
meeting.
They
had
all
kinds
of
laptop
sitting
around
nobody
there
just
sitting
there
looking
at
laptops.
G
They
know
some
very
important
packet
of
material
that
I've
gave
them
and
they
have
it
even
notified
me
when
the
meeting
was-
and
that
was
in
the
package
back
to
meetings
ago
three
meetings
ago,
and
they
won't
even
for
me
when
the
meetings
coming
up
by
emailed
you
like
to
do
the
press
now
when
it
comes
to
supporting
a
BTEC
I
support
a
BTech,
but
I
do
not
support
administration.
That
is
not
open
and
transparent.
Unless
it's
talking
about
give
me
some
money
thanks,
Thank.
A
A
Q
Q
We've
got
cost
issues
as
citizens
right
now
going
on
for
all
of
us
really
difficult,
challenging
distribution
of
our
own
resources
are
running
out
and
getting
short
for
citizens.
Okay,
when
you
look
at
something
for
a
vote,
especially
if
it's
a
city
election
versus
what
I'll
call
the
county
election
in
November
2012,
you
look
at
all
of
a
sudden
getting
into
what
I
call
political
bias
is
how
the
whole
thing
gets
framed
up.
This
is
a
challenge
to
you
to
reframe
it
with
the
public
interest
and
issue
in
mind.
Q
Abtech
is
a
good
institution,
but
there
are
bureaucratic
processes
going
on
here
that
are
reflecting
some
of
the
social
issues
like
with
local
government
and
how
the
bureaucracy
is
going
in
what
directions
people
need
to
see
local
government
redirecting
the
bureaucracy
into
sustainable
and
supportable
positions
from
the
people.
You've
got
to
rethink
this
whole
approach.
It
cannot
be
add,
want
add,
upon,
add
upon
we're
breaking
under
the
weight
of
financial
costs.
This
is
the
citizens.
These
are
the
taxpayers.
Q
These
are
the
voters,
rethink
their
stability
first
I
want
to
see
AV,
Technical,
College,
stable,
but
I
know
one
thing
as
a
citizen.
I
got
to
put
my
life
first
for
that
stability,
adding
more
costs,
adding
more
costs,
creates
political
resentment
and
I.
Don't
care
who's
sitting
up
there.
Your
leadership
is
important
to
us
as
citizens.
Your
bureaucratic
decisions,
as
those
effective
leaders
really
were
what
you're
seeing
nerd
x
to
you.
We
are
really
questioning
your
judgment
right
now
on
your
support
ability
of
us
and
that's
what
I
want
to
really
get
across
you.
Q
As
you
talk
about
these
things
of
a
quarter
percent
sales
and
use
tax,
there's
a
lot
of
good
bureaucratic
justification
for
going
in
that
direction.
It
makes
sense
from
that
mindset,
but
you
got
to
come
back
to
the
people
who
are
paying
for
it.
It's
not
making
sense
to
our
mindset.
We
can't
afford
it
anymore,
rethink
our
stability,
our
support
ability
and
lead
us
in
those
directions.
Thank,
You,
Think,.
A
90
comments
from
the
board,
I
would
just
say
this
is
a
every
citizen
in
Buncombe
County
can
vote
for
against
this.
This
citizen
is
going
to
vote
for
it
I
think
it's
a
great
thing.
We
need
it,
but
that's
one
on
one
citizen
and
you're
going
to
get
to
debate
it
you're
going
to
get
to
ask
any
questions.
A
L
B
Exactly
with
our
chairman,
this
citizen
plans
to
vote
for
it.
I
see
the
good
things
that
happen
at
a
BTEC
I
see
the
people
who
have
jobs
because
of
the
good
things
that
happen
at
a
BTEC
I
see
the
influence
it
has
on
the
community.
I
see
the
folks
who
have
jobs,
the
jobs
that
will
be
created
through
the
construction
and
the
rehabilitation
of
some
of
the
buildings
over
there
and
and
I
plan
to
vote
for
it
and
I
plan
to
work
for
it,
because
I
know
how
important
it
is.
B
But
what
we
are
saying
tonight
is
that
we
are
giving
the
citizens
of
buncombe
county
the
opportunity
to
decide
and
I
think
if
you're
an
informed
voter,
you
will
decide
you'll,
look
at
the
facts
for
yourself
and
you
will
decide
and
I
think
it's
very
important
for
this.
All
this
board
is
very
involved
in
the
political
process
and
we
vote
regularly,
but
this
is
this
is
an
election
that
that
should
not
be
decided
by
nine
or
ten
percent
of
the
voters
who
are
registered
vote.
B
This
should
be
an
election
if
you
have
a
daughter
or
you
have
a
grandchild
or
you
have
a
sister
or
brother
or
someone
who
goes
to
a
BTech
and
it's
seen
the
benefit
from
it.
It's
your
it's!
Your
decision
to
get
out
and
see
these
people
are
registered
and
vote.
This
is
very,
very
important
and
it
will
have
a
domino
effect
across
our
County
I
plan
to
work
for
it
I
plan
to
vote
for
it.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
this
resolution.
Mr.
chairman,.
A
A
P
A
We
have
no
other
business,
we
do
have
board
appointments,
I
think
there
was
a.
We
have
on
the
agenda
parks
greenways
in
rec,
advisory
board,
I
think
there's
a
desire
by
the
Commission
to
have
interviews,
and
we
will
defer
those
appointments
until
later
and
I
think
our
announcements
will
depend
on
what
we've
come
up
with
on
our
next
meeting.
What
will
be
the
next
meeting
day,
madam
clerk.
L
D
A
The
next
regular
meeting
of
our
Commission
will
be
September
13
2002,
getting
in
for
30
p.m.
Commission
meetings
can
be
seen
on
bc,
TV,
channel
charter,
cable
channel
to
ATT,
u-verse,
channel
99
and
live
on
buncombe
county
org
during
the
meetings
or
any
time
live
on
buncombe
county
org.
The
website.
A
F
A
F
It's
that
that's
all
right,
you're
talking
fussy
to
do
so
the
Dave
and
get
along
and
I
appreciate
that.
But
I
do
think
that
when
Jerry
Rice
stood
here
today
and
said
that
he
could
not
get
an
answer
from
a
BTEC
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
do
be
sure
it
off
the
record.
He
gets
those
answered.
But
if
you
don't
David
is
going
to
hurt
me
towards
what
I
think
about
you.
Okay,
well.
F
F
N
Just
wanted
to
say,
thanks
for
all
being
here,
I
did
want
to
say
that
you
know
my
point
wasn't
against
the
resolution.
When
I
was
speaking
before,
wasn't
against
the
resolution,
it
was
just
a
table
it,
but
mainly
because
elections
cost
a
lot
of
money,
and
if
people
come
out
in
the
community,
if
you
want,
as
commissioner
Peterson
said,
to
have
an
informed
voter
of
both
sides.
Unfortunately,
you
know
you
guys
are
well
aware
of
how
much
a
TV
commercial
costs,
how
much
a
male
or
cause.
N
How
much
add
time
cause
how
much
everything
costs
I
mean.
You
guys
might
get
comments
in
the
paper
for
free
just
because
of
your
title:
we're
not
going
to
we're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
it.
So
it's
going
to
be
like
a
double
expense
for
us
to
run
this
election.
That
was
why
I
was
asking
you
to
table
the
comment
until
a
later
date.
Wasn't
against
a
BTEC,
wasn't
against
the
quarter.
Cent
sales
tax
I!
Just
don't
think
that
we
can
afford
it
right
now.
I
also
was
wondering.
N
There
again
I
I'm
confused
about
the
whole
epic
thing
of
a
conflict
of
interest
and
and
there
again
I'm
not
trying
to
pick
on
anybody
I'm
just
confused
about
that
definition,
because
you
have
a
commissioner,
that's
a
board
of
trustees
on
the
board
of
trustees
for
for
a
vtec,
and
then
you
have
a
commissioner.
That's
a
retired
president,
and
there
again
has
a
has
a
building
named
after
them
as
a
whole
career
tied
to
a
BTech.
It
seems
like
that.
Make
cloud,
maybe
just
a
little
bit
a
judgment,
a
fair
judgment
about
the
issue.
N
A
K
Chairman
and
commissioners
I
think
I
can
answer
that
in
this
context,
you'd
have
to
weigh
whether
or
not
any
member
of
this
board
or
pastor,
present
or
future
member
of
the
a
BTEC
board
has
any
direct
financial
impact
or
benefit
from
how
this
quarter
cent
sales
tax
foot
would
go
and
how
that
money
would
be
used
and
I
don't
see
how
it
could
cause
any
conflict
of
interest
in
this
regard.
At
all.
R
From
asheville,
first
of
all,
I'm
disappointed
that
the
county
and
city
are
going
to
be
meeting
again
on
the
same
night
and
on
another
issue
of
transparency.
I
really
don't
like
the
agendas
that
we
get
online.
I
think
the
city
of
asheville
does
an
outstanding
job
of
transparency.
They
gives
you
200
pages
a
week
or
so
this
one
is
just
line
items.
I
know
I
spoke
with
Donna
Clark
before
and
she
said
I
could
come
in
any
time.
R
Well,
not
all
of
us
have
the
Liberty
to
take
time
off
work
to
come
talk
to
people
to
find
out
what
the
business
of
the
county
is
from.
What
I
can
tell
from
the
consent
agenda?
The
few
lines
that
are
given
on
it
seems
like
it's
business.
It's
already
been
done
and
I
think
that
I
mean
that's
fine.
If
you
want
to
run
a
mayor,
daley
kind
of
operation,
but
the
way
most
ash
billions
would
like
to
see
their
county
run
or
their
local
government
we'd
like
people
that
are
responsive.
R
We
would
like
people
to
positions
of
power
that
we
would
like
to
be
making
decisions
rather
than
just
giving
a
nod
on
something:
that's
already
gone
down,
and
so
I'm
probably
asking
something
really
unreasonable.
But
if
you
could
just
follow
the
city
of
Asheville
model,
more
and
maybe
deliberate
things
or
put
them
on
a
consent
agenda,
so
you
can
give
them
an
up
or
down
before
the
money
is
exchanged.
R
D
A
G
I
think
she
brings
up
a
good
issue
as
well
as
the
resolution.
Today.
It
was
not
on
the
agenda.
It
was
announcement
thing
you
were
going
to
do
one,
but
it
was
not
out
there
where
people
could
actually
read.
It
might
have
been
more
people
here.
If
it
been
that
way
and
to
me
I
think
having
something
on
the
agenda
and
you're
voting
on
it,
you
should
have
it
in
print
where
people
can
read
it
prior
to
that
vote,
though
I
don't
know,
it
seems
like
this.
G
A
BTEC
thing
gets
slipped
under
the
radar
every
chance
it
gets
to
make
it
tone
it
down.
All
you
want
to
and
10
mr.
chairman
you're
speaking
of
a
BTEC
being
open
to
the
public,
and
all
that,
let
me
tell
you
them
if
you'd
go
back
in
history
and
go
to
the
website,
I'd
like
for
you
to
search
that
website
and
see
what
you
see
and
I
ain't
talking
about
just
recently
I'm
talking
about
in
the
last
five
years
and
you'll
find
out
the
anal
transparency
about.
G
It
is
only
when
I
brought
it
to
the
attention
of
the
board
of
trustees
that
things
started
happening
and
they
can
talk
all
they
want
to,
but
it
wasn't
on
there
prior
to
that
now.
What
I
was
talking
about
is
I
have
notified
the
president
and
the
secretary
and
the
Board
of
Trustees
to
notify
me
just
like
you
all
do
by
email
that
just
like
to
do
the
newspaper
guys
and
anybody
else
that
wants
to
be
on
the
melon
list
and
they
have
not
yet
added
me
and
that's
been
three
months
ago.
G
G
Now,
here's
a
tax
coming
or
not
only
just
the
tax
coming,
the
property
tax
of
this
county
was
not
really
a
weighted
either
and-
and
here
we
are
with
another
burden-
on
top
of
us-
lower
the
property
tax
about
five
to
ten
cent
or
better
and-
and
you
know,
people
might
feel
better
about
voting
on
this
tax
and
voting
in
a
general
election.
Yes,
I
agree,
it
ought
to
be
in
the
general
election
when
everyone
is
coming
to
the
poll
to
vote
and
they
are
informed
voters
but
an
off-year
election.
G
R
L
M
Reverend
Lisa
Landis
glow
lady
g
LOL
ady.
You
can
find
me
in
the
search
engine.
Transparency,
I'm,
really
wondering
about
what
transparency
that
you're
talking
about
I
have
been
requesting
the
BC
TV
budget
since
January
and
I
still
hadn't
received
it
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
this
paper
that
I
did
receive.
Okay,
also
I
come
I'm
with
Laura
anyhow,
why
put
the
county
and
the
city
together
unless
you're
trying
to,
let
me
see,
choose
which
county
which
city
meeting
to
go
to?
M
It
said
that
it
was
supposed
to
be
1,
sep
tember,
the
six
for
the
next
county.
But
then
it
came
up
on
here
that
it
was
September
the
the
13th
so
I
guess
that
was
already
pre
arranged,
or
maybe
that
could
be
the
50
6521
dollars
that
the
employees
get
or
bc
TV,
and
you
know
questioning
that.
There's
two
full-time
permanent
and
one
full-time
temporary
which
make
169,000
564,
which
is
an
increase
of
7516
dollars
in
just
four
years.
Wow,
that's
pretty
good!
M
You
know
yes,
I'm
getting
tired
of
standing
up
here
and
talking
about
you
are
TV
I'm,
getting
tired
of
standing
up
here
and
saying:
hey
it's!
We,
the
people,
you
know
who
are
you
the
leader
for?
Are
you
for
all
of
the
people
or
just
some
of
the
people,
because
it's
very
obvious
that
you're
not
for
all
the
people,
because
if
you
were
for
all
the
people,
you
would
at
least
consider
some
of
the
words
that
I'm
saying
you
know
like
when
a
BTech
was
supposed
to
be
a
partnership
over
there
with
you,
our
TV.
M
That
would
have
been
really
really
great.
You
know
that
would
have
been
really
cool,
but
that's
when
a
bunch
of
slander
was
coming
out
and
it's
like
you
know,
either
you're
going
to
get
the
facts
or
you're,
not
so
how
about?
If
I
come
down
and
pick
up
the
paperwork
for
the
BC
TV
budget
at
the
office
instead
of
waiting
for
it
to
be
mailed,
because
it's
now
been
eight
months.
M
Q
Q
Now
it
was
a
very
interesting
plan
from
their
sustainability
and
the
modeling
they
wanted
for
the
tourism
and
and
all
the
good
bureaucratic
structuring
of
such
proposal.
It
did
not
it
all
come
across
as
public
access
whatsoever
told
him.
So
even
Mayor
was
confused
because
she
thought
it
was
about
public
access
in
her
own
discussion
during
the
meeting,
and
it
was
not.
This
multimedia
approach
does
not
even
fall
under
the
public
access
description.
There
may
be
some
guidelines
and
directions
that
were
similar
to
the
original
construct
for
public
access.
Q
It
may
not
always
be
the
content,
that's
pretty
and
perfect,
and
and
so
well
structured
and
organized
because
it
is
being
done
by
the
public
and
the
public
is
always
in
the
learning
curve
is
always
in
an
entrepreneurial
development
process.
And
yes,
there
were
people
losing
jobs
and
TV
shows
there.
I
was
one
of
them,
but
I'm
not
here
about
that
issue.
I'm
here
about
the
very
fact
that
peg
channels
have
a
portion
called
public
access,
it's
now
dead
in
the
water.