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A
I'd
like
to
call
the
june
7
2011
meeting
of
the
buncombe
county
board
of
commission
to
order
and
as
always,
we'll
start
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
If
you'll
join
me.
A
B
A
B
A
B
C
A
D
Folks,
before
I
read
this,
unfortunately,
our
community
lost
a
great
citizen.
In
the
last
few
weeks.
He
was
certainly
an
advocate
for
senior
citizens.
Mr
joe
connolly
was
long
time
long
time
advocate
for
him
it
was
just
a
super
asset
to
our
elderly
community,
and
I
would
ask
for
just
a
moment
of
silence
in
joe
conley's
name.
D
Proclamation
of
vulnerable
adults
and
elder
abuse
awareness
month,
whereas
buncombe
county's,
vulnerable
and
elderly
adults
deserve
to
live
safely
with
dignity
and
whereas
vulnerable
and
elderly
adults
of
all
socioeconomic
racial
ethnic
backgrounds
may
be
targets
of
abuse,
neglect
or
exploitation
which
occurs
in
families,
long-term
care
facilities
and
communities.
And
whereas
abuse
of
our
vulnerable
and
elders,
adults
is
most
often
defined
as
any
act
that
harms
or
threatens
their
health,
welfare
or
financial
situation.
D
D
Vulnerable
and
elderly
adults
is
a
community
responsibility
and
it
is
imperative
that
communities
work
together
to
help
reduce
and
prevent
abuse,
neglect
and
exploitation,
and
whereas
in
2030,
one
in
four
north
carolinians
will
be
over
the
age
of
60
and
whereas
all
citizens
should
watch
for
signs
of
abuse,
neglect
or
and
exploitation
of
vulnerable
and
elder
adults
and
report
it
to
their
local
department.
Of
social
studies.
D
Now,
therefore,
be
proclaimed
by
the
board
of
commissions
for
the
county
of
bunker.
As
follows,
that
this
board
does
hereby
proclaim,
may
the
6th
to
june
the
20th
2011
as
vulnerable
adults
and
elder
abuse
awareness
month
in
buncombe
county
this
board
does
have
hereby
encourage
all
citizens
to
participate
in
community
efforts
to
support
and
improve
the
safety
and
well-being
of
vulnerable
and
elder
adults
and
secure
their
right
to
live
free
of
abuse,
neglect
and
exploitation
that
this
proclamation
be
affected
by
its
adoption.
It's
chairman,
I
move
the
adoption
of
the
proclamation.
B
A
C
A
All
opposed
no,
we
will
adopt
that
and
maybe
we'll
give
that
to
mandy
someone
from
dss
we'll
make
sure
we
get
that
to
the
right
people.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair
next
up
we
have
debbie
trumpy
with
resigning
requests.
This
is
e-a-l-holdings
r2
to
emp.
E
Yes,
sir
ann
winter
has
representing
e-l-e-a-l.
Holdings
has
applied
to
re-zone
a
portion
of
tax
lot,
9653-07.
E
E
That
parcel
is
in
limestone
zoning,
which
was
enacted
in
in
the
early
80s.
At
that
time
it
was
two
separate
parcels.
One
was
zoned
emp
and
I
think
simply
because
we
lacked
the
technology
that
we
have
today.
E
The
requested
zoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
buncombe
county.
Comprehensive
land
use
plan,
as
the
land
use
plan
update
indicates
that
the
emp
district
is
primarily
intended
to
provide
approximate
appropriately
located
sites
for
employment
concentrations
primarily
for
office
type
uses,
industrial
storage,
warehousing
and
wholesale
trade.
E
The
zoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
surrounding
uses
and
would
bring
a
non-conforming
structure
into
compliance
and
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
request.
The
planning
board
held
a
public
hearing
on
this
application
on
may
16th.
This
year
there
was
no
public
comment
and
the
planning
board
found
that
the
rezoning
is
consistent
with
the
land
use
plan
is
adjacent
to
emp
zoning
and
within
a
mix
of
office.
Industrial
commercial
uses
and
the
planning
board
unanimous
unanimously
recommended
approval
of
the
rezoning.
A
Motion
by
commissioner
bailey
second
by
commissioner
peterson,
is
there
any
further
discussion,
all
those
in
favor
of
the
recommended
zoning
change,
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed.
No.
The
zoning
change
is
adopted.
R2
emp
5-0.
Next,
we
have
debbie
trumpy
is
going
to
tell
us
about
several
ordinances
amending
our
fee
schedules.
If
you
could
just
take
them
one
by
one.
E
All
four
of
those
have
the
actual
fee
within
the
text
of
the
ordinance,
and
the
amendments
that
we
are
are
looking
for
is
is
on
all
four
of
those
just
to
strike
the
specific
fee
within
those
ordinances
and
substitute
a
sentence
saying
that
the
board
of
commissioners
shall
establish
fees
and
may
amend
and
update
the
fees
when
needed
and
we're
asking
that,
as
these
fees
are
designed
to
cover
staff
costs
for
reviews
and
inspections,
vehicle
costs,
gas
mileage
all
those
costs
change
through
time
and
enable
in
order
for
us
to
be
able
to
amend
those
fees
in
down
the
road,
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
have
that
through
the
budget
process
rather
than
within
the
ordinance
and
then
going
back
and
amending
the
ordinance
each
time.
E
The
the
only
other
thing
besides
that
is
that
within
the
telecommunications
ordinance,
there's
a
change
to
the
definition
of
the
ordinance
administrator
right
now.
It
says
it
is
the
employee
appointed
by
the
board
of
commissioners,
and
we
would
like
to
change
that
as
well
to
mean
the
planning
director
or
his
designee,
but
there
is
no
specific
fee
being
set
here.
It's
just
allowing
that
those
fees
can
change
through
time
without
amending
the
ordinances
themselves.
A
So
basically,
you
just
want
the
authority
to
do
it
without
having
to
come
back
here
every
time
exactly,
and
is
this
comparable
to
other
communities
in
the
area
what
they
charge
for
these
air?
For
these.
E
We
did
in
in
a
fee
schedule
that
we
are
proposing.
We
did
look
at
several
communities
and
see
what
they
charged
and
we
were
quite
often
charging
less
than
that,
particularly
in
in
the
ordinances
where
the
the
fee
is
set.
We
have
some
that
they
were
adopted
back
in
the
early
and
mid
90s,
and
the
fees
have
never
changed.
F
F
A
A
A
Okay,
let's
I
think
we
got
four
separate
public.
E
Hearings,
mr
chairman,
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
if
you
wish
just
to
have
the
one
public
hearing
for
all
four,
since
it's
basically
the
same
change
in
in
each
one
of
those
ordinances.
But
we
would
ask
that
you.
A
Okay,
changes;
okay,
all
right,
very
good,
any
other
questions
from
mr
trumpy
about
what
we're
doing
here
and
why
we're
doing
it
all
right,
then
we'll
start
the
public
hearings
and
we're
going
to
combine
them
all
together.
We
will
be
having
four
separate
votes
at
the
end
of
the
public
hearings:
four
against
these
and
we'll
take
public
hearing
on
anyone
who
wants
to
talk
about
the
ordinance
amending
the
adult
establishment
fee
schedule,
soil
erosion
and
sedimentation
control
fees,
manufactured
home
and
trailer
ordinance
fees
and
telephone
telecommunication
ordinance
fees.
A
I
I
You
don't
even
know.
If
it's
going
to
be
posted
on
the
board,
you
don't
even
know
what
your
current
fees
are.
Now,
let's
look
at
these
individually
from
mobile
home
park.
North
carolina
has
15
of
its
housing
and
mobile
home
parks.
The
national
average
is
7
percent.
We
know
we've
got
a
problem
with
affordable
housing.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
we're
going
to
go
up
on
the
fee?
I
I
So
frankly,
I
think
this
is
a
move
to
make
our
government
operate
behind
closed
doors
at
the
discretion
and
the
will
of
whatever
is
necessary.
You've
already
offered
in
your
comments
from
your
staff,
the
proof
that
you're
going
to
go
up
on
the
rest
of
your
fees,
so
you're
going
to
do
them
the
same
way.
You
did
this.
I
I
And
basically,
I
have
seen
a
lot
of
elected
officials
lately
say:
well,
we
run
the
show.
If
people
don't
like
us,
they
can
throw
us
out
of
office.
Well,
david
keep
on
doing
this.
This
is
wonderful.
This
is
great
because
every
time
you
do
things
like
this,
the
people
are
beginning
to
wake
up
and
see
exactly
what's
going
on.
I
You
know
david.
You,
and
I
have
argued
about
a
lot
of
things.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
having
a
good
debate
in
public,
and
I
think
those
fees
should
be
public
matter
should
be
voted
on
by
the
county
commissioners
should
be
published
in
the
paper
should
be
addressed
so
that
the
builders
and
the
mobile
home
operators
and
the
trader
park
operators
could
have
some
input
to
it,
as
well
as
a
sale
to
our
people.
G
My
name
is
tom
crist.
I
live
in
asheville
and
I'm
here
with
the
manufactured
housing
association.
I'd
like
to
comment
specifically
about
mobile
homes.
We
put
a
lot
of
pressure
in
buncombe
county
on
affordable
housing.
It's
very
difficult
from
a
cost-effective
standpoint
to
put
new
trailer
parks
in
buncombe
county.
It's
almost
impossible.
We
don't
want
to
put
any
more
pressure
on
the
many
people
who
need
affordable
housing
want
to
live
in
parks,
150
or
200.
G
Raising
a
charge
to
someone
trying
to
put
a
house
in
a
park
is
a
lot
of
money.
It's
not
really
going
to
help
that
much
in
the
shortfall
in
budgets
and
fees.
I
realize
that
there's
certainly
a
need
to
have
more
fees,
but
as
far
as
manufactured
housing
is
concerned,
these
folks
are
just
looking
for
affordable
housing.
There
isn't
much
out
there.
G
We
have
zoned
out
double
whites
and
r1
and
r2
and
you're,
seeing
lots
for
doubloids
in
the
rest
of
the
county
and
open
use,
sell
at
higher
prices
because
there's
a
premium
on
them
and
it
further
makes
it
difficult
to
get
affordable
housing.
I've
got
a
couple
of
people
right
now
who
are
first
responders
of
buncombe
county
who
need
to
live
in
their
area
and
they
cannot
buy
house
if
r1
and
r2
afforded
that
to
them.
G
They
would
be
able
to
live
and
work
in
their
area
and
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
they
can
no
longer
do
that.
So
this
is
something
that's
really
critical.
Raising
the
fees
to
to
people
who
are
needy
and
need
housing,
and
also
preventing
people
from
buying
housing
in
the
first
place
in
certain
areas,
is
something
that
we
really
need
to
take
a
look
at
and
demand.
Thank
you.
J
Commissioners,
mike
fryer
fairview,
looking
at
this,
they
are
asking
for
an
open
end.
We
don't
know
what
the
charges
are
now
and
I
would
say,
all
of
y'all
sitting
there
don't
either
everybody
needs
to
see
what
the
charges
are
and
figure
percentage.
If
you're
going
to
do
something
times
are
tight,
you
know
we
have
to
buckle
down
like
everybody
else.
Does
you
have
to
buckle
down
too,
but
to
raise
money
to
go
up
on
fees
on
people
that
have
already
had
buckled
down?
J
That's
that's
not
responsible
county
or
city
or
anything
anytime
fees
are
and
cured.
You
got
four
items
up
here:
soil
mobile
homes,
mobile
homes.
I
think
your
zoning
actually
cost
about
fifteen
thousand
dollars
more
to
bring
a
mobile
home
in
because
of
your
zoning,
then
you're
wanting
to
add
more
fees
to
that,
and
that
does
not
help
affordable
housing.
J
K
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
board.
These
are
great
comments.
I
think
you
ought
to
post
upon
this
voting
today
and
give
an
opportunity
to
be
a
public
hearing
on
each
of
these
items
and
give
sufficient
notice
to
the
different
people
that
might
be
out
there
and
not
just
a
blurp
in
the
paper
in
the
citizen
times
that
nobody
can
find.
K
I
think
it
ought
to
be
well
publicized.
One
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
is
this
is
a
tax
increase
on
the
poor.
K
L
Dr
milton
byrd,
buncombe
county
resident
because
you're
looking
to
address
fee
schedules
through
this
public
hearing
approach,
there
is
a
sense
of
trust
that
people
have
on
this
kind
of
decision-making
process.
There
is
a
great
efficiency
trying
to
condense,
down
and
streamline,
and
I
understand
the
value
of
effective.
L
L
M
Hi
I'm
rev
lisa
landis,
and
I
was
wondering
you
know
looking
on
there
and
seeing
you
know
the
mobile
housing
and
and
the
adult
entertainment
and
it's
like,
are
you
going
down?
How
are
you
picking
which
things
to
raise
the
fees
on
and
back
in,
in
one
of
my
many
professions,
I
used
to
design
clothing
for
for
girls
who
worked
at
the
at
the
strip
bars
and
the
men's
clubs,
and
I
feel
that
that
we
have
perverted
our
human
bodies
and
and
it's
like-
is
that
really
fair?
M
You
know
these
girls
work
for
a
living.
Just
like
you,
work
for
a
living
and
their
their
source
of
entertainment
is
is
degraded
and
you
have
to
wonder.
I
have
to
wonder
why
you
know
why.
How
did
you
get
to
pick?
You
know
adult
entertainment
as
to
well,
let's
raise
the
the
fees
on
this
way
back
when
I
was
designing,
these
girls
were
doing
a
car
wash
to
raise
money
for
a
domestic
violence,
shelter,
and
do
you
know
that
the
domestic
violence
shelter
refused
to
take
the
money
that
they
raised?
M
So
it's
like.
I
think
that
we
are
very
perverted
perverted
in
in
our
in
our
thoughts
and
in
our
actions
and
in
our
deeds,
and
I
I
hope
that
we
can
come
to
some
kind
of
a
a
an
understanding
and
and
start
to
change
the
way
that
we
look
at
other
people
instead
of
less
than
we
should
start
to
look
at
where
we
are
like.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
river
lands.
Any
other
comment,
mr.
N
Well
tonight
we're
asking
you
to
take
some
language
out
of
these
ordinances,
we're
happy
to
put
the
new
fee
schedule
on
the
agenda
with
the
budget
next
at
our
next
meeting,
so
everyone
can
see
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
existing
fees,
proposed
fees
and
how
they
compare
to
others,
and
that
way
there
is
an
opportunity
for
everyone
to
see
what
those
fees
would
be
before
they
are
adopted.
N
We're
not
asking
you
to
adopt
fees
tonight,
but
so
that
we
separate
these
properly
we're
just
asking
for
a
language
change
tonight
and
we
will
put
those
fees
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
All
right.
F
Chairman,
I
I
think
it's
a
great
approach
and
I
think
that's
a
a
good
way
to
go
and
I
would
offer
an
amendment
to
the
language
in
the
that
is
repeated
in
the
four.
F
Ordinances
proposed
that
would,
at
the
end,
say,
county
board
of
commissioners
shall
establish
license
fees
and
may
amend
and
update
these
fees
annually
during
the
budget
process,
so
that
it's
a
little
bit
more
we're
going
to
look
at
these
one
type
of
year,
one
time
a
year.
This
is
the
time
of
year
we're
going
to
do
it.
We
may,
or
you
know
that,
that's
when
we
do
it
if
we
decide
to
do
it
as
opposed
to
kind
of
the
unsure
time.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion
for
an
amendment.
A
Okay,
there's
been
a
motion
by
commissioner
jones
ii
by
commissioner
bailey
to
approve
the
four
ordinances
with
an
amendment
that
the
fee
schedule
is
is
part
of
the
budget
annually
and
made
available
to
the
public
for
review
and
consideration
annually
during
the
budget
process.
Is
that
that
it
yeah?
I
okay?
Any
discussion.
C
A
Okay,
you
know,
I
think,
right
now,
the
general
public
is
paying
for
all
our
inspection
fees
and
all
the
energy
and
staff
time
we
have
to
spend
to
do
these
permits.
Is
that
right?
So
I
guess
you.
E
A
Well,
that's
the
way
I
kind
of
read
it.
I
don't
think
that
someone
that
does
not
use
these
items
should
be
paying
for
it
and
you're
trying
to
put
the
cost
on
the
people
that
are
using
them
and
that
are
are
asking
for
the
permits
and
benefiting
from
the
permit
exactly
good
point.
So
you
know
this.
This
is
someone's
going
to
pay
for
this,
but
right
now
the
general
public
is
paying
and
your
proposals
basically
to
break
it
down,
so
the
people
that
are
doing
this
actually
have
to
pay.
A
A
E
Account
yes
ma'am.
I
did
want
to
clarify
that.
There's
a
it
seemed
like
the
the
perception
that
this
was
individuals,
placing
mobile
homes
that
that
this
ordinance
change
was
for,
and
this
is
for
establishing
a
mobile
home
park
and
and
the
proposed
change
is
from
a
hundred
hundred
dollars
to
a
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
when
you're
developing
a
mobile
home
park,
that's
less
than
20
spaces
and
from
200
to
250
developing
one.
That's
that's
20
or
more.
E
So
this
is
not
individuals
putting
their
homes
into
those
parks,
but
the
developer
himself
reviewing
those
plans
and
going
out
and
do
the
inspections.
Okay,
because.
A
I
know
beyond
any
doubt:
there's
not
a
person
sitting
up
here,
that's
going
to
do
anything
to
get
in
the
way
of
affordable
housing,
and
I
think
repeatedly
this
board
has
voted
to
do
so
and
we're
never.
I
mean
to
fight
that
and
we're
never
going
to,
but
so
we're
talking
about
50
bucks
for
a
park
of
20
people
and
okay,
yes-
and
I
guess
technically
that
is
passed
along,
but
we're
talking
fifty
dollars.
A
Okay,
we've
got
got
a
motion
already
and
we
will
you
move
the
question.
All
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye
all
right
I'll
oppose.
No,
then
all
the
ordinances
with
the
amendments
are
adopted.
Thank
you.
H
A
F
A
Opposed
no
5-0
soul
erosion,
sedimentation
control
fee
amendment
ordinance.
Excuse
me
ordinance
amendment.
All
those
in
favor
of
the
that
motion
say:
aye
aye,
all
opposed.
No,
that
motion
carries
five
zero
manufactured
homes
and
trailer
ordinance
fee
amendment.
All
those
in
favor,
say
aye.
All
right,
I'll
oppose
no
motion
carries
five
zero
and,
finally,
the
ordinance
amending
the
telecommunication
ordinance
fee.
All
those
in
favor.
A
Next,
we
have
brian
dillingham
who's
going
to
talk
to
us
about
a
resolution
authorizing
the
acceptance
of
a
complete
p25
compliance.
700
megahertz
trunk
simulcast
radio
system
provided
in
buncombe
county
had
no
cost
from
cassidian
communication.
Inc
you'll
have
to
you'll
have
to
straighten
that
out
for
us,
but
this
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
county
manager
to
enter
into
a
10-year
maintenance
and
service
agreement
with
kassidian
communications
for
maintaining
the
new
radio
system
upgrade
brian
dillingham.
O
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
start
by
just
giving
an
update
of
where
we
are
on
our
current
radio
system
and
then
kim
pruitt
will
take
over
and
talk
about
the
the
offer
itself
and
sheriff
duncan,
and
mr
vihan
may
have
a
few
comments
as
well.
O
O
O
By
narrowbanding,
we
do
come
across
some
problems.
We
already
faced
with
some
some
coverage
issues
with
our
system
narrative
by
narrowbanding.
We
also
reduce
our
effective
coverage.
The
only
way
to
overcome
these
problems
is
with
the
addition
of
radio
sites,
and
we
were
here
a
few
weeks
ago
with
about
the
telecreations
tower
ordinance.
O
O
One
of
the
unfortunate
side
effects,
however,
is
going
to
be
the
addition
of
interference
as
we
build
more
sites
and
put
up
more
sig
receivers
to
receive
these
signals,
we're
going
to
be
hearing
more
signals
from
outside
of
the
county,
which
is
a
problem
today,
and
that's
only
going
to
increase
as
as
we
stay
with
this
with
the
vhf
technology.
That's
that's
in
use,
and
it's
another
thing
that
will
be
addressed
in
the
in
the
proposal.
We're
getting
ready
to
talk
about.
O
Q
And
the
way
that
led
in
he's
taller
than
me,
brian,
is
working
very
closely
with
the
planning
department
and
with
the
facilities
department
to
try
to
get
many
many
sites
put
in
place
to
allow
us
to
meet
this
narrow
band
update.
While
we
have
been
working
to
get
those
sites
established,
so
we
can
meet
that
mandate.
We
have
been
approached
by
eads
kassidian.
Q
They
are
public
safety
and
defense
companies
specializing
in
communications
networks
and
aviation
products.
They
have
been
they're
wanting
to
get
a
u.s
presence
in
public
safety,
radio.
They
are
the
second
largest
company
that
produces
public
safety
radio,
but
they
are
wanting
to
get
have
a
showcase
site,
so
they
have
been
doing
some
research
on
buncombe
county
and
they
would
like
to
place
a
showcase
site
in
buncombe
county
and
put
the
equipment
here,
basically
free
of
charge
to
us
for
the
actual
network
infrastructure
that
would
host
this
radio
system.
Q
Q
So
they
want
a
nice
area
to
bring
potential
clients.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
You
can
look
around
us
and
that
one's
not
too
hard
to
do.
They
were
looking
for
a
strong
technology
department.
They
were
looking
for
someone
who
we
could
manage
this
system.
Radio
systems
have
become
technology
systems,
they've
become
they're
as
much
software
as
they
are
our
hardware.
It's
much
changed
in
the
last
20
years
around
radio
systems.
Q
They
also
looked
at
us
because
about
a
year
ago
we
were
very
forward
thinking
and
replacing
our
dispatch
console
system,
and
we
went
with
an
ip-based
dispatch
system
which
made
this
very
attractive.
It'll
allow
us
to
talk
to
any
radio
system,
so
they,
while
they
enjoy
the
beauty
of
our
area.
They
also
see
it
as
a
challenging
terrain.
If
they
can
make
radio
communication
work
in
this
area,
then
they
feel
like
they
could
probably
make
it
work
just
about
anywhere.
So
that's
another
reason
they
wanted
to
come
to
us
in
return.
Q
Buncombe
county
is
being
asked
to
do
some
things.
Of
course,
the
technology
department
would
have
to
manage
it.
We
do
have
to
have
sites.
This
would
recomm.
They
are
recommending
to
get
the
coverage
that
we
would
desire
from
this
p
25
700
system.
We
would
need
12
sites,
since
we
were
going
to
be
going
to
like
11
sites
for
the
narrow
band
anyway.
That's
that's,
not
a
huge
thing
to
ask
us
to
do.
We
just
have
to
do
a
little
more
with
the
site.
Q
Work
they've
also
asked
that
we
would
partner
with
them
on
a
maintenance
plan.
The
maintenance
plan
that
they
have
put
before
us
is
very
comparable
to
what
we
do
on
any
of
our
large
systems.
Actually,
it's
much
less.
It
comes
to
six
percent.
It's
a
six
percent
rate.
We
typically
are
paying
between
12
and
18
percent
on
hardware
and
software
contracts,
but
we
would
sign
this
maintenance
agreement
to
assure
that
we
can
maintain
this
system
over
the
10
years.
Q
Q
C
Q
Those
are
items
that
we
would
go
out
on
competitive
procurement.
Since
there
are
p25
standard,
we
probably
can
get
much
better
pricing
on
those
by
making
it
be
a
separate
from
getting
the
actual
network
communication.
Q
R
R
As
you
know,
from
previous
conversations
where
they
are
now
abandoned,
it's
going
to
eliminate
our
coverage
and
we
were
in
the
process
of
and
we're
still
going
to
do
it.
I
had
other
towers
to
do
both
systems
on,
but
this
is
a
huge
piece
of
what
it
would
cost
to
go
ahead
to
the
700
megahertz
system
and
it's
the
government's.
The
federal
government's
goal
is
to
have
every
emergency
service
at
some
point
in
time
in
the
future,
in
this
700
megahertz
frequency
realm.
R
So
it's
a
it's
a
good
way
for
us
to
get
started
on
it.
It
is
an
expensive
system,
but
what
they're
offering
us
sure
takes
care
of
a
lot
of
the
backbone
of
such
a
system,
and
I
would
encourage
you
go
ahead
and
authorize
acceptance
of
this
system,
and
then
we
can
proceed
to
add
to
the
system
and
eventually
get
every
agency.
Even
the
city
of
isil
at
some
point
in
time
will
be
able
to
be
on
the
same
system
with
us
if
they
so
desire.
D
Mayor
the
they're
offering
us,
but
a
little
over
six
million
dollars
worth
of
equipment.
Is
that
what
it
is?
That's.
C
R
O
Have
they
have
a
site,
they're,
building
a
site
in
richardson
texas
right
now?
They
have
a
site
in
california
and
they
recently
did
a
site
for
the
royal
canadian
mounted
police
for
the
g8
g20
summit.
That
was
a
20
20
sites,
20
or
28
site
system
that
they
used
for
that
that
summit.
O
R
S
Opportunity
meeting
up
with
a
need,
we
have
seen
a
constant
degrading
of
the
radio
system
just
by
the
nature
of
the
way
they
work
over
the
past
several
years,
and
what
we've
begun
to
see
now
in
communications
is
several
times
through
a
12-hour
shift,
we're
having
dispatchers,
who
will
have
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
call
an
officer
in
a
residence
to
be
able
to
check
on
their
status
to
make
sure
that
they're,
okay
and
I.t
brian
clint
gorman
they've
been
working
very
diligently
on
this
vhf
system.
S
But
it's
just
a
system
with
a
simulcast
that
is
beginning
to
lose
its
ability
to
be
effective
and
and
really
safe
for
us
to
use
and
operate
on.
We
know
with
this
narrowband
coming
and
I'm
probably
a
great
person
to
explain
it
because
I'm,
I
know
very
little
about
radio,
except
that
they've
worked
very
hard
on
channel
3,
which
is
an
alternative
channel
that
we
use.
S
It
has
already
been
narrow,
banded
and
the
coverage
on
it
is
significantly
less
even
with
the
new
equipment
than
channel
1
and
sheriff's
channel
one
where
we've
been
having
a
lot
of
problems
so
that
being
a
viable
solution.
Staying
on
the
vhf
channel
and
just
trying
to
upgrade
and
fix,
it
is
probably
not
going
to
work
and
us
be
able
to
keep
our
officers
safe
and
be
able
to
check
on
them
in
a
in
a
majority
of
the
portions
of
the
county
without
delivering
services.
But
any
questions
from
that
end.
A
S
That
is
correct
chairman.
They
are
going
to
be
able
to
use
a
coupler
or
interoperability
system
to
keep
the
vhs
talking
on
the
700
megahertz
system
until
folks
can
kind
of
plan,
because
it's
different
equipment
that
the
700
operates
off
of
the
ability
for
the
vhs
to
be
any
better
on
the
system.
We're
getting
is
not
there.
S
It's
still
going
to
be
poor,
but
we'll
have
at
least
what
we
have
right
now,
as
we
convert
over
to
the
700
and
then
weaverville
and
woodfin,
who
we
also
dispatch
for,
will
be
able
to
plan
into
into
budgetary
needs,
as
they
see
fit
to
switch
over
to
that
700
equipment.
So
the
day
that
we
switch
over
is
not
a
drop
dead
date,
though,
the
two
systems
will
be
able
to
merge
and.
S
This
all
talk
to
them.
Yes,
sir,
when
they
talk
about
p25
compliant,
there's
an
upgrade
being
talked
about
going
on
with
viper
radio,
which
is
what
the
state
works
off
of
and
there's
also
an
upgrade
being
talked
about
at
the
city
to
where
they
come
on.
Board
is
p25
compliant,
and
then
this
system
will
talk
to
all
those
folks.
We
would
have
the
ability,
with
a
700
system,
to
buy
equipment
that
would
do
that
now,
but
it
is,
it
is
kind
of
cost
prohibitive.
S
S
It's
going
to
be,
you
know
they
have
to
step
back
and
take
a
look
at
the
cost
of
what
they're
getting
700
megahertz
is
not
cheap,
and
this
option
is
has
a
cost
associated
with
it.
But
then,
when
you
step
back
and
you
look
at
the
option,
we
know
that
we
can't
continue
on
with
the
radio
system.
We
have
in
place
that
that
radio
system
continues
to
degrade
and
it's
it's
got
some
pretty
good
holes
and
and
officer
safety
issues
right
now
and
using
it.
H
Q
P
Q
They've
got
sign
offs
that
they
have
to
meet
and
acceptance
procedures.
I
mean
we're
it's
a
very
tight
contract.
We.
P
P
The
other
piece
of
this
is
is
that,
with
this
with
this
donation,
you
can,
you
can
then
go
and
buy
your
individual
equipment
from
whoever
the
lowest
bidder
may
be.
Yes,
sir,.
D
A
C
A
Opposed
no,
the
resolution
is
past
5-0.
Next.
H
Time
it
is
two,
mr
chairman,
it's
two
and
also
have
to
authorize
the
entry
into
the
maintenance
service
agreement,
as
kim
was
indicating.
We
can't
have
this
without
any
maintenance
service
agreement,
as
we
would
with
any
other
I.t.
Okay,.
D
A
Q
A
No,
the
resolution
is
adopted.
Thank
you.
Next
up
we
have
mr
johnson
superintendent
johnson
with
the
city
school
budget
presentation.
I
thought
you're
going
to
do
the
voting
delegate.
First.
What
do
you
like?
Okay,.
B
T
But
thank
you.
I
hope
they
pull
up
the
powerpoint
for
me,
but,
mr
chairman,
commissioners,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
come
before
you
tonight.
It's
always
a
pleasure
to
come
before
you
and
speak
about,
subject
dear
to
my
heart
and
that's
our
city
schools
in
asheville.
Before
I
begin,
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues,
dr
dunn
and
dr
baldwin,
for
allowing
me
to
go
first.
It
reminds
me
going
to
the
dinner
table.
You
know
the
first
one
at
the
dinner
table.
T
Oftentimes
gets
the
best
pickings,
but
I'm
sure
we'll
be
able
to
leave
a
few
things
for
you
and
we'll
get
all
the
money.
So
I
just
thought
I'd
share
that
with
you,
but
I'd
like
to
on
behalf
of
our
board
and
our
staff.
I
want
to
thank
you,
but
I'd
like
to
introduce
tonight.
I
have
with
me
mr
gene
bell.
Our
chairman
is
with
us,
mr
bell.
We
also
have
miss
peggy
dawman,
who
is
over
with
us
as
well
I'd
like
to
thank
both
of
them
for
for
coming
and
being
with
us
tonight.
T
So
a
little
bit
about
our
school
system
very
familiar
with
this,
but
just
for
your
viewing
audience
we
have
in
asheville
city
schools.
We
have
five
magnet
elementary
schools,
which
are
all
choice.
Our
parents
get
to
choose
and
select
which
one
of
these
schools
that
they
attend.
We
have
asheville
high
school
serving
about
a
thousand
children
and
we
have
the
school
of
inquiry
and
life
science,
which
is
a
gates,
funded
small
high
school,
serving
about
200
students.
T
So
within
our
and
then
we
have
a
middle
school
program
serving
about
800
children
along
with
randolph
learning
center,
which
has
a
milestone
coming
up
thursday
night
randolph
learning
center
will
have
five
students
graduating
in
the
commencement
exercises
on
thursday
night
at
nashville
high
school.
That's
the
first
time
in
that
school's
legacy,
we're
very
proud
of
that
and
then,
following
up
one
five-star
preschool
program
serving
about
200
pre-reduced
lunch
children
a
bit
about
us,
we're
a
growing
district.
T
I'm
pleased
to
announce
to
to
you
and
to
our
audience
that
if
I
could
take
this
chart
out
to
the
left
about
20
years,
we've
had
a
declining
enrollment
in
our
school
system.
For
that
period
of
time,
but
as
you
can
look
in
506
declining
0607,
but
then
we
leveled
off
for
about
three
years
and
this
past
year
we
have
over
121
new
students
in
our
school
system,
so
we're
growing,
and
that
is
very
positive
to
us,
and
we
are
appreciative
to
our
parents
and
community
for
supporting
us
demographics
we're
changing.
T
Our
second
largest
minority
group
is
multiracial
poverty,
and
this
number
represents
data
from
the
census
figures
that
we
received
back
in
2008,
so
28
percent
of
our
students
who
live
in
asheville
city
students
or
poverty
rate,
as
determined
by
the
census,
but
in
2009
our
latest
figure
I
wish
I
had
provided,
is
31.79.
T
T
Our
students
are
becoming
poorer
and
we're
seeing
that
we're
feeling
it
year
by
year,
the
budget
that
we
have
to
operate
with
we're
very
thankful
to
the
commissioners.
For
providing
the
excellent
support
that
you
do
for
us
every
year,
as
well
as
the
support
we
receive
from
our
families
and
and
community,
our
budget
is
ranging
around
60
million
dollars
and
of
that
we
receive
about
21
million
from
the
state
or
35
percent,
and
about
24
million
or
40
percent
from
local,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
is
unique
in
in
today's
funding
formulas.
T
Typically,
the
state
is
the
majority
or
funder
in
most
school
systems,
but
we
are
unique
because
we
receive
the
supplemental
tax
as
well
as
sales
tax,
but
in
this
number
it
does
increase
it
a
little
bit.
More
is
four
over
four
million
dollars
of
bonds
that
we
are
having
our
local
budget
that
we're
paying
back
for
the
qzab
and
qscb
for
innovation
of
asheville
high
school,
so
that
does
stratify
that
local
number
a
little
larger
that
includes
about
4
million,
so
that
local
budget
really
is
about
20
million
coming
from
the
commissioners
by
expenditure.
T
This
excludes
capital
outlay.
You
can
see
that
we
spend
about
79
of
our
budget
of
that
52
million
on
salaries
and
supplements
and
benefits
for
our
employees.
But
we
do
have
contracts
which
and
utilities
which
the
largest
expenditure
in
that
area
is,
would
be
the
utilities
that
we
do
have
to
pay
every
year.
Other
items
and
contracts
include
the
sro
contracts
for
asheville
police
department,
copier
leases,
as
well
as
custodial
contract
for
cleaning
of
asheville
high
school
supplies,
include
materials,
custodial
supplies,
etc.
T
Update
about
our
state
public
school
fund.
This
is
the
latest
information
I
have
for
you
as
of
last
week
that
was
sent
to
the
to
the
governor.
As
of
june,
4th
we've
received
in
state
cuts
about
1
million
dollars
a
little
over
a
million
dollars,
and
you
add
that
to
the
discretionary
cut
that
was
passed
along
from
the
previous
year,
approximately
1.8
million
dollars
have
been
cut
from
our
school
system
from
the
state
for
this
current
upcoming
year
and
how
does
that
translate
into
employees
and
others
and
other
items?
T
Well,
we
we
lost
10
positions
from
this
new
cut
that
came
of
the
1
million
that
I
shared
with
you
and
then
15
from
the
previous
existing
discretionary
cuts.
So
all
of
that
is
to
say
about
25
positions
have
been
cut
from
the
state
budget
of
that
1.8
million
dollars.
Now,
obviously,
25
positions
are
not
equal
to
1.8
million.
T
What
I
didn't
share
with
you,
but
does
include
that
1.8
million
includes
cuts
to
textbooks,
cuts
to
instructional
supplies,
custom
staff,
development,
cuts
to
school,
building,
administration,
cut
to
school
transportation,
cut
the
school
central
office
line
items.
So
how
are
we
going
to
respond
to
these
cuts?
What
are
we
doing?
T
T
So
our
plan
is
to
use
some
of
these
dollars
to
place
back
these
25
positions
that
I
indicated
that
were
eliminated.
Some
of
the
cuts
also
to
local
budget
will
use
through
edu
jobs.
Another
important
one
for
us
is
our
preschool
that
I
mentioned
with
the
cuts
to
more
at
four
that
are
out
outstanding
right
now.
T
T
We
will
be
expanding
all
of
those
funds-
almost
2.3
million
dollars
a
little
more
than
2.3
million
dollars
by
september
of
this
year,
and
we
utilize
these
funds
over
the
past
two
years
for
funding
our
title,
one
program,
funding
our
exceptional
children
and
then
state
stabilization.
When
the
state
cut
last
year,
the
number
of
teachers,
teacher
assistants
and
clerical,
we
utilize
this
one-time
money
to
help
us
get
to
where
we
are
today,
but
those
positions,
many
of
those
were
temporary
and
they
were
transferred
back
to
the
state
and
local
funds.
T
Another
area
of
federal
funds
have
been
raised
to
the
top.
This
has
been
a
significant
effort
upon
our
state.
We
were
one
a
few
states
to
receive
race
to
the
top
funds
and
asheville
city
schools,
portion
of
that
is
297
thousand
dollars
and
what
we're
doing
we're
hiring
instructional
technology
facilitators.
T
That's
part
of
the
issue
for
us,
and
these
are
master
teachers.
These
tech
facilitators
that
we'll
use,
as
well
as
providing
staff
development
for
other
teachers
about
our
local
budget.
I'm
pleased
to
to
certainly
stand
before
you
and
say
with
a
growing
school
district.
It
needs
additional
funds.
So
this
approximate
number
that
we
have
expected
from
the
county
appropriation
is
a
growth
in
adm,
there's
121
students
that
I
mentioned
to
you
does
impact
our
adm,
as
well
as
a
proportionate
share
of
the
county
appropriation.
T
T
So
we
figure
on
a
depending
upon
which
employee
they
were
that
could
range
from
six
to
ten
to
twelve
thousand
dollars.
So
you're,
looking
anywhere
from
twenty
thousand
dollars
or
a
laid
off
employee
versus
eight
thousand,
who
will
go
to
retirement,
makes
good
business
sense
for
us.
So
we
are
had
a
couple
of
takers
on
that,
so
that
means
less
people
we
have
to
cut
and
lay
off
contingencies.
T
We
are
still
dealing
with
a
charter
school
lawsuit.
That's
pending
we're
waiting
for
the
judge's
decision
on
that
now,
so
we
are
holding
identified
resources
to
deal
with
that.
If
that
does
go
against
the
school
system
senate
bill,
8
is
another
state
bill,
that's
that
is
pending
out
there
now.
I
believe
it
was
taken
out
of
the
state
budget,
but
I
believe
it
is
still
pending
as
a
standalone
bill
and
then
the
fund,
one
district,
is
another
item
that
was
taken
out
of
the
senate
budget,
but
it
is
still
remaining
a
stand
standalone
bill.
T
So
those
are
three
areas
that
I
recommended
to
our
board
of
vacation
board
of
education
have
contingencies
for
what
what
if
a
worst
case
does
not
occur
and
we're
hoping
that
that
this
is
what
will
happen.
That
is
not
as
dire
as
we.
We
may
believe,
we'll
add
back
some
of
the
eliminated
positions.
That's
what
we
plan
to
do
that
retirement
rate.
We
understand
now
that
there's
a
higher
retirement
rate
than
we've
budgeted
for
and
expected
of
the
sum
of
about
239
thousand
dollars.
T
T
Our
annual
capital
outlay
appropriation
is
about
1.2
million,
and
we
utilize
those
funds
for
repairs,
renovations
and
a
number
of
other
things.
But
let
me
give
you
an
example:
we
have
a
roof
on
our
asheville
middle
school
right
now
that
we've
gotten
some
bids,
for
we
need
to
replace
it.
It's
going
to
cost
about
a
half
million
dollars,
so
half
a
million
dollars
for
one
roof
and
we
receive
about
1.2
million
for
all
of
our
other
schools.
T
We
are
we're
struggling
to
to
keep
up
with
the
needs.
That's
upon
us,
particularly
with
with
older
facilities,
additional
state
cuts,
we're
concerned
about
2012
2013.,
dr
baldwin,
and
I
met
this
morning
in
one
of
our
strategies.
Was
we
get
through
this
budget?
How
do
we
deal
with
with
the
next
one?
And
you
know
it's
almost:
we
have
to
figure
out.
How
do
we
deal
from
day
to
day
and
week
to
week?
Usually
we
looked
at
two
years
three
year
five
year
now
it's
the
point:
how
do
we
survive
the
next
school
year?
T
So
that's
pretty
much
on
our
minds.
Edu
jobs
funding
will
be
depleted,
as
I
mentioned
to
you
a
building
capacity
if
class
size
is
reduced.
I
think
it's
admirable
that
the
legislature
is
trying
to
reduce
class
size.
I
think
we
all
want
that.
I
think
there's
some
concerns
about.
We
have
with
it
that
if
it's
reduced
that's
being
planned,
we
may
not
have
adequate
space
to
place
the
teachers
in
the
areas
that
have
to
be.
We
have
to
place
them
because
of
our
size
and
smallness.
T
T
Just
mentioned
to
you
that
isaac
dixon,
I
think,
was-
is
about
60
years
old,
and
we
have
some
major
construction
issues
going
there
that
we
need
to
replace
the
building.
We
need
a
new
facility
there
and
then
asheville
middle
school
has
a
number
of
major
issues
and
renovations
that
are
needed.
The
roof
I
mentioned
to
you.
We
have
some
architectural
renderings
that
were
provided
before
our
board
a
couple
years
ago.
T
Our
our
plan
would
be
to
at
this
point.
Dixon
in
particular
would
be
to
demolish
it
and
replace
it
on
the
same
site
with
a
new,
modern
building
and
the
nashville
middle
school.
For
that
much
we
would
probably
demolish
most
of
it
and
build
it
again
back
on
the
same
site,
because
we
don't
have
any
other
land
in
asheville.
Obviously
that's
a
premium
and
we
believe
the
schools
are
in
good
locations
now,
so
we
would
not
want
to
do
that.
T
One
thing
I
will
mention
that
asheville
high
school
we
we
have
applied
for
and
with
your
support
and
and
county
manager,
green
support.
We
are
utilizing
the
quality
school
construction
bonds
and
the
quality
zone
academy
bonds
of
about
six
million
dollars
to
renovate
that
historic
building.
If
you
haven't
been
in
it
lately,
I
encourage
you
to
go.
The
hallways
are
beautiful,
with
new
lighting
new
hvac
system,
we
just
put
in
a
sprinkler
system
in
that
historic
building
last
year
did
not
have
a
sprinkler
system.
T
T
We
know
this
is
a
way
to
get
at
it.
Providing
making
kids
excited
about
learning.
As
you
can
see,
there's
a
young
man
trying
to
explain
to
me
something
I'm
not
doing
correctly
right
there,
but
that
was
his
program.
I
got
upset
at
his
computer.
He
was
teaching
me
so
digital
literacy,
these
kids
love
it
they're
good
at
it.
T
As
you
know,
you
walk
in
the
mall
and,
and
you
see
the
kids,
they
got
their
head
looking
at
their
phone
they're
texting,
that's
what
drives
them
and
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
connect
them,
and
digital
literacy
is
a
way
to
do
it.
This
is
an
initiative
that
you
you're
certainly
aware.
We
have
placed
a
laptop
in
the
hands
of
every
ninth
grader
of
asheville
high
school,
and
I
want
you
know
we
gave
them
out.
We
were
collecting
them
back
out
of
200.
T
I
believe
it's
two
or
three
hundred
three
hundred
ninth
graders.
We
only
had
two
not
returned
that
tells
you
the
the
accountability
and
the
teachers
and
other
administrators.
I
take
my
half
off
of
them
for
making
sure
that
they
were
very
organized
and
diligent
about
that,
but
our
other
goal
is
to
get
them
to
the
hands
of
all
students
next
year
and
we
have
some
grant
funding
that
we're
looking
at.
T
Well,
actually,
we
left
a
meeting
today
at
one
of
our
schools
at
jones
elementary
school,
and
that
topic
came
up
as
the
research
that
we've
looked
at
pretty
much
shows
students
need
additional
time
in
in
school
and
we've
seen
that
helps
all
students
not
just
a
gap.
T
It
helps
all
kids
and
that's
why
we're
looking
at
extending
our
day
at
the
elementary
school
by
30
minutes
another
some
research
that
we've
done
the
assistant
superintendent,
mr
cyrus,
is
here
and
has
done
a
lot
of
work
on
this
area
has
to
do
with
summer
loss
we're
finding
that
students
who
do
not
have
really
engaging
activities
in
the
summer
time
actually
lose
more
in
the
summer
time
which
really
stratifies
the
gap.
T
Schools,
working
schools
and
teachers
are
engaging
these
students,
they're
learning
and
their
achievement
levels
are
increasing.
While
we
have
them,
it
is
when
we
don't
have
them
is
when
they're
losing
and
then
the
gap
stratifies
year
after
year
after
year
after
year,
and
the
data
you
know
supports
that
so
year-round
school
is
something
that
we've
talked
about
and
I
believe
we're
going
to
with
the
board
support.
A
C
A
Massive
problems
with
the
state-
I
think
you
have
less
problems
here,
but
but
we
still,
you
got
to
make
the
budget,
and
I
appreciate
you
working
to
try
to
work
together
both
of
you.
I've
many
times
seen
you
meeting
and
trying
to
work
out
mutual
problems,
and
that
doesn't
happen
in
every
school
district,
I'm
familiar
with
some
that
they,
they
wouldn't
say
hello
to
each
other,
much
less!
Try
to
work
things
out.
I
think
your
boards
have
met
together
and
I
just
commend
you
for
all
that.
That's
so
important
in
these
tough
times.
T
Well,
I
thank
you
for
that,
and
that
is
something
that
we
plan
and
and
we
we
know
it-
benefits
our
community
for
all
of
us
to
work
together
and
try
to
share
resources
and
solve
problems
together.
So
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
tony
and
his
board
is
education
as
well.
F
I
do
have
one
budget-related
question,
so
you
talked
about
the
new
hvac
system
in
asheville
high.
Are
we
starting
to
see
decreased
energy
bills
from
that?
Thank.
F
T
Replaced
those
historic
windows
past
year
with
the
qsav
funding
like
the
courthouse,
was
done.
I
think
juan
and
I
had
this
conversation-
we're
expecting
utility
bills
to
decrease,
because
just
those
windows,
the
old
ones,
had
the
ropes
in
them
and
we
had
them
closed
shut.
The
teachers
couldn't
even
open
them
because
we
were
afraid
they
would
fall
on
them,
so
we
had
them
nailed
shut.
They
couldn't
use
them
when
we
had
the
old
storm
windows
in
front
of
it.
T
So
we
took
all
of
that
out
now
we
went
back
to
the
historic
color
of
those
windows
and
we're
able
to
open
them,
closing
they
got
screens
on
them,
but
the
we're
expecting
to
have
our
utility
bill
decreased.
That's
what
we've
been
told.
B
Some
little
comments
here
back
and
forth.
Having
talked
under
his
principalship
at
asheville
high,
there
are
two
things
I
want
to
say:
first
of
all,
to
get
air
conditioning
and
those
buildings
having
taught
home
economics
there
when
you've
got
stoves
and
tops,
and
all
that
going
you've
got
one
window
in
your
room
and
it
doesn't
open
and
you're
and
you're
you're
teaching
home
mac
yay
for
the
air
conditioner.
I
love
that
and.
C
T
O
S
U
Let
me
also
say
that
that
represents
a
total
for
both
schools
of
28
certified
positions
and
23
support
positions
that
translates
in
these
very
difficult
times
in
people
having
opportunities
for
jobs,
so
on
behalf
of
those
people
who
anxiously
await
their
letters
to
recognize
them
as
new
staff
members
on
behalf
of
them.
Thank
you.
U
Let's
start
out
with
just
three
pieces
of
information
and
alan
talked
about
the
poverty
level,
the
poverty
rating,
I'm
going
to
go
a
little
bit
different
angle
on
that,
and
that
is
the
number
of
students
that
qualify
in
buncombe
county
schools
for
free
and
reduced
meals.
U
U
Secondly,
the
average
amount
of
money
that's
spent
per
pupil
in
the
united
states
is
ten
thousand
four
hundred
ninety
nine
dollars
that's
per
pupil
in
north
carolina,
that
is
eight
thousand
four
hundred
fifty
one
and
in
buncombe
county
schools.
That
is
currently
seven
7607.
That's
our
per-pupil
expenditure!
Now
that
will
reduce
next
year,
but
we
did
have
an
organization
north
carolina
civitas
that
recognized
this.
U
The
average
cost
to
educate
a
pupil
from
kindergarten
through
graduation
in
north
carolina
is
a
hundred
and
forty
two
thousand
twenty
seven
dollars
in
buncombe
county.
That's
a
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand
two
hundred
ninety
four
dollars.
Once
again.
We
believe
that
is
high
quality
for
the
dollar,
and
I
I
get
a
lot
of
questions
regarding
central
office.
U
As
you
can
see,
currently
2010-11
58
of
our
budget
comes
from
state
funds,
25
courtesy
of
local
funding
through
the
commissioners
and
then
17
federal.
The
reason
we
have
two
charts
is
that
in
11,
12,
that's
going
to
change
just
slightly,
and
the
reason
being
is
that
that
federal
funding
is
decreased
significantly
because
of
the
loss
of
stimulus
funds
and
the
stimulus
funds
primarily
address
title
1
and
special
needs
two
of
our
our
populations
that
have
the
highest
needs
of
any
students
inside
these
school
buildings.
U
U
This
will
be
the
fourth
consecutive
year
of
cuts
that
have
come
to
the
school
system
in
809,
2
million
23
757
dollars
was
the
total
funding
loss
and
that
came
about
through
two
reversions
and
other
other
words.
We
sent
money
at
mid-year
and
we
sent
money
at
the
end
of
the
year
back
to
the
state.
You
may
recall
the
dreaded
word
furlough
I
saw
dr
green's
face
kind
of
have
a
scowl,
the
dreaded
furlough.
U
We
never
could
figure
out
how
to
furlough
bus
drivers,
since
they
had
to
be
on
duty
when
kids
were
there
in
the
building
in
2009-10,
again
second
round
of
reduction,
16
million
dollars
in
state
funds
in
local
funds,
we
had
a
reduction,
738
000
some
dollars
and
then
the
increased
cost
and,
as
we
all
know,
health
insurance
retirement
rates.
The
employer's
contribution
continues
to
increase.
U
I'm
asked
about
positions
over
this
period
of
time.
We
have
had
a
total
of
136
and
a
half
positions,
and
I
say
positions
now,
because
we
have
been
extremely
fortunate.
As
a
large
system,
we've
been
able
to
save
people
within
our
family,
but
what
we
all
have
to
understand
in
the
school
business
is
once
that
position
goes.
U
U
I
talked
about
a
reversion
early
on
the
term
was
reversion.
It
is
now
an
adjustment
in
both
cases
they
are
discretionary.
It
is
up
to
us
where
we
find
that
funding
for
2010-11
that
was
5
327
936
dollars
in
11
12.
That
state
budget
continues
this
amount,
because
again
it's
not
returned
once
it
goes.
It
doesn't
come
back
and
it's
going
to
add
the
budget
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
that's
now
on
the
governor's
table
adds
an
additional
two
million.
U
U
U
If
you
want
to
talk
about
reform
and
education,
it
is
at
the
high
school
increased
graduation
requirements,
math
social
studies,
other
cores
are
on
the
way
makes
sense.
It
is
a
globally
competitive
environment.
We've
got
to
prepare
those
graduates,
for
it
is
here:
it's
not
ahead
of
us.
It's
here
provide
a
sound,
k-3
foundation
of
balanced
literacy.
U
We
believe
this
strongly.
We've
come
to
you
and
talked
about
successes
with
graduation
initiative.
This
is
what
it's
based
on
we've
seen
data
after
data,
that,
if
that
foundation
from
k
through
3,
is
not
established
for
our
kids,
we
see
the
pattern
continue
on.
They
have
to
have
it
all
too
often
when
they
reach
that
age.
To
consider
dropping
out.
You
see
that
pattern
that
that
foundation
was
not
in
place,
work
towards
equity
and
curriculum.
We
across
all
districts
we're
a
large
system.
U
It's
very
important
that
a
family
that
lives
in
inca,
for
whatever
reason
transfers
to
the
north
bunkum
district
or
vice
versa,
that
they
have
as
much
as
possible.
They
have
the
same
opportunities
for
quality
instruction
in
curriculum
and,
finally,
preparing
students
to
succeed
in
a
21st
century
global
economy.
U
We've
said
this
since
august,
regardless
of
what
the
budget
final
budget
comes
to
us
from
the
state,
this
is
what
we
believe
we're
going
to
protect
we're
going
to
find
some
way
to
protect
number
one
classroom
teachers.
That
is
our
first
priority.
Thank
goodness,
the
state
has
agreed
with
us
second
k-3
teaching
assistance
for
a
while.
U
We
believed
it,
and
you
have
just
told
you
why
I
believe
it
so
strongly
that
whole
support
system
that
need
that's
there
for
our
youngest
students
coming
in
it
takes
the
whole
support
system,
not
just
the
classroom
teacher
but
those
assistants
inside
those
classrooms
instructional
support
what
is
instructional
support.
That's
our
counselors!
U
If
there's
ever
been
a
need
for
counselors
social
workers
dropout
prevent
prevention
specialists.
It
is
now
in
the
communities
where
our
kids
are
coming
from
and
our
media
coordinators
and
we'll
talk
to
you
about
technology
21st
century
globally,
competitive
environment
technology
is
integrated
in
all
curriculum
that
addresses
that
media
coordinators.
U
U
U
The
first
handout
I
have
given
you,
I
believe,
is
good
information.
It
is
actually
a
comparison
of
what
the
governor's
budget
house,
budget
and
actually
two
versions
of
the
senate
budget,
and
these
numbers
by
the
way,
are
the
impact
by
line
item
to
buncombe
county
schools.
These
aren't
state
numbers.
These
are
buncombe
county
numbers.
These
are.
These
are
our
best
estimates.
U
The
first
thing
I
want
to
focus
your
attention
to
is,
in
the
left
hand,
corner
under
increase
in
negative
budget.
If
you
follow
all
the
way
across
you're
going
to
see
in
terms
of
the
senate,
the
far
right
version,
one
on
may
27th
and
then
the
final
version
may
31st,
and
that
represents
by
the
way
that
far
right
budget
version
from
the
senate
is
now
the
legislative
budget
that
sits
in
front
of
the
governor.
U
So,
as
I've
said
before
our
priority
k-3
teaching
assistance,
the
state
now
has
joined
us
we're
a
little
shaky
but
they've
come
around,
and
so
that
is
extremely
important
to
us.
In
fact,
what
that
will
allow
us
to
do.
It
will
allow
us
to
take
off
the
table
for
elimination,
those
state
funding,
instructional
assistants
outside
of
k3.
U
U
U
U
Our
commitment
is
at
31
percent,
and
I
say
this
because
I've
come
out
loud,
strong
and
loud
when
I've
met
with
with
our
staff
in
the
district
and
I've
talked
to
our
principals
and
said:
look
if
you're
in
danger
of
taking
hits
out
there.
You
rest
assured
we'll
take
them
at
that
central
office
and
more,
and
so
I
intend
to
do
what
I
say:
you'll
see
that
there's
a
serious
reduction
in
instructional
supplies.
U
We're
going
to
need
to
count
on
that
help
again,
but,
as
principals
have
told
me
from
the
start,
if
cuts
have
to
be
made,
let's
first
look
at
non-human
resources
and
that's
what
we've
done
also
an
area
that
I
want
to
bring
your
attention
to
that.
I
think
impacted
both
mr
johnson
and
myself
is
the
loss
of
the
flexibility
to
use
our
lottery.
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I'm
not
sure
what
the
city
school
system
actual
figure
was,
but
we
had
committed
1.2
million
dollars
of
our
lottery.
We
moved
that
into
teacher
positions
this
current
year.
We
had
hoped
to
have
that
flexibility
next
year,
but
it's
not
there,
but
I
can
assure
you
that's
something
that
we're
going
to
work
hard
to
request
for
in
1213..
U
U
The
reason
that
we're
going
to
protect
that
and
fully
fund
it
is
you
may
or
may
not
know,
but
what
is
also
in
the
budget
is
an
increase
from
180
instructional
days
to
185,
so
one
of
those
areas
that
we
immediately
think
about
increased
costs
are
transportation.
So
that's
why
we're
protecting
that
particular
area?
U
U
Issues
and
concern,
I
think,
the
majority
of
these
matches
what
you
saw
from
allen:
the
final
version
of
the
budget.
When
will
it?
When
will
it
be
here?
What
will
be
the
governor's
response?
We
await
that
flexibility
and
abc
transfer.
I
talked
about
the
lottery
abc
transfer
simply
put
is
the
flexibility
that
we,
as
school
systems,
have
to
maximize
our
budget
by
taking
positions
and
dollar
allotments
and
shifting
them
across
categories
to
maximize
that
budget.
U
U
2012-13,
I
have
to
caution
everyone
I
speak
to
regarding
a
budget
that
we
have
to
be
leery
of
what's
coming
in
1213
because
of
the
loss
for
us,
5.3
million
dollars
of
edu
jobs
fund
and
then
the
additional
adjustment-
that's
1.2
million
dollars
that
we
anticipate
to
see
in
1213..
U
U
Mr
johnson
mentioned
race,
the
top
funds
we're
fortunate.
We
have
2.9
million
dollars
over
a
four
year
period
that
is
going
to
three
primary
initiatives
that,
regardless
of
the
budget
challenges
we
are
marching
on.
The
first
of
those
is
a
global
schools
initiative.
We
are
one
of
13
systems
in
the
state
that
our
partners
have
partners
in
that
particular
initiative,
we're
going
to
see
wonderful
ways
to
bring
global
education
into
our
system
and
also
to
allow
staff
and
students
opportunities
to
experience
that
global
network
firsthand.
U
Secondly,
stem
education,
science,
technology
engineering,
math
crucial
for
the
global
competitive
21st
century
world
out
there.
We
are
proud
in
that
that
race
to
top
funding,
will
allow
us
at
the
middle
school
level,
we're
very
proud
of
that.
To
initiate
some
specialized
curriculum
called
project
lead
the
way
that
will
focus
on
that
stem
education.
U
Again
we're
marching
on
our
capital
committee
has
identified
a
two
phase
program
where
we
intend
to
put
hardware
standard
hardware
that
will
be
found
in
each
and
every
classroom
in
bunking
county
schools,
all
41
schools
high
school,
all
the
way
down
to
kindergarten.
Again,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
present
our
budget
information.
You
have
any
questions.
P
U
Well,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
protect
transportation
because
we
know
that
there's
costs
that
come
with
an
additional
five
days,
but
but
I
want
I,
I
really
want
to
applaud
asheville
city
system,
because
you
know
I've
talked
a
lot
about
a
globally
competitive
environment.
U
P
So
is
there
an
increase
in
in
in
teacher
salaries
and
other
people's
salaries
for
the
additional
fourth.
U
Right,
I
believe
the
the
correct
answer
to
that
is
that
those
five
days
will
be
converted
from
from
current
teacher
work
days.
Okay,.
F
F
So
what
you're
telling
me
is
that
this
adopt
this
presented
budget
takes
away
that
opportunity
for
y'all
to
come
and
ask
for
that.
I.
F
U
It
allows
some
flexibility
to
shift
between
those
particular
allotment
categories,
and
I
know
mrs
parker's
here
and
I'm
sure
she
could
probably
give
you
a
about
an
hour
workshop
on
abc
transfer
flexibility.
But
take
my
word
for
it.
It
is
crucial
to
all
school
systems
in
terms
of
being
able
to
to
meet
our
budget
demands
and.
U
U
But
they
have
not
handcuffed
us
to
any
great
extent.
Okay,.
A
U
Well,
I
I've
already
made
a
note
that
one
of
our
breakfast
meetings
I'm
going
to
be
asking
mr
johnson,
what
kind
of
research
he's
coming
up
with
you
know.
I
I
do
think
I'm
I'm
hearing
that
in
a
lot
of
different
circles
and
again
I
applaud
them.
U
I
think
it
is
truly
time
that
we
have
to
look
at
our
traditional
model
and
let's
face
it
180
days,
it's
based
on
the
agreeing
calendar.
It's
time
we
look
to
see.
Is
this
truly
meeting
the
needs
of
of
our
students
and
what
they're
going
to
face
when
they
walk
across
the
stages
at
graduation
ceremony,
all
nine
of
them
for
bunking
county
school.
D
Well,
dr
gardner
and
brother
johnson,
you
all
have
done
a
tremendous
job
with
what
you
got
here
and
I
truly
appreciate
it,
particularly
when
you
got
a
bunch
down
in
raleigh
trying
their
best
to
destroy
public
schools
in
north
carolina
they're.
Doing
a
pretty
good
job
of
that.
I
think
they're,
crazy.
D
B
B
A
A
Next
up
we
have
dr
hank
dunn,
gonna,
tell
us
about
the
ab
tech,
community
college
budget
and
the
state
impacts.
V
I
do
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
become
defended
as
well,
and
I
would
have
to
say
to
my
fellow
educators:
they
are
wonderful
folks
to
work
with.
We
love
working
with
both
of
them.
I
think
we've
got
a
collaborative
collegial
in
our
world
relationship
and
we're
all
suffering
with
the
same
thing,
we're
suffering
with
reductions
in
funds,
and
you
would
have
seen
the
paper
today
would
have
seen.
I
used
my
same
analogy
and
alan.
V
You
have
heard
it
before
that
we're
eating
our
seed
corn
and
it
was
a
really
tough
winter,
this
winter
and
in
january,
when
the
snow
was
piled
high
and
it
was
freezing
outside
and
we
couldn't
go
anywhere
to
buy
food.
We
saw
that
bag
of
seed
corn
sitting
over
there
in
the
corner
and
even
though
we
knew
we
were
saving
it
for
the
spring
and
we
needed
it
to
put
in
the
ground.
V
We
kind
of
grabbed
a
handful
or
two
and
that's
where
we're
at
and
I
think,
for
a
b
tech
and
for
other
community
colleges
we're
not
sure
what
this
what
the
harvest
is
going
to
be
like
and
I'm
afraid
we
don't
understand
the
ramifications
of
having
eaten
some
of
our
seed
corn.
But
I
thought
I'd
try
to
share
with
you
a
little
bit
of
what
we
are
going
through
and
answer
questions
there
for
the
community
colleges.
V
We
ended
up
if
the
governor
signs
it
and
like
tony
and
alan
nothing's
kind
of
put
to
bed
until
the
governor
signs,
vetoes
or
whatever's
happening
there,
but
based
on
the
current
knowledge,
we
ended
up
with
a
10.7
percent
reduction
in
state
funding.
This
is
on
the
top
of
like
many
other
places.
Several
years
of
already
declining
funding,
several
years
have
already
haven't
taken
rescission
reversions,
whatever
you
want
to
have
them,
and
so
10.7
is
a
difficult
number
for
us.
V
But
a
b
tech
went
into
the
dual
enrollment
huskins
arena
in
a
big
big
way
several
years
ago,
and
those
changes
will
actually
have
an
effect
on
us
that
will,
we
believe,
will
reduce
our
budget
by
another
three
to
five
percent,
so
because
of
that
10.7
percent
reduction
and
our
perceived
conservativeness
that
it
may
be
another
three
to
five
we're
actually
counting
on
a
13
to
15
percent
reduction
in
our
state
budget
this
year.
V
What
we
have
done,
though,
is
try
to
make
a
commitment
to
the
people
who
are
there
and
have
been
there
that
we're
not
losing
folks,
and
we
have
made
a
heroic
effort
and
we've
succeeded
this
year.
We
will
not
be
laying
off
any
full-time
folks
on
campus
and
I
need
to
say
on
campus,
because
there
were
programs
off
campus
that
were
cut.
V
The
smart
start
was
cut
and
obviously
we'd
taken
over
that
program,
and
that
program
was
not
renewed,
and
so
we
have
a
person
who's
leaving
there.
We
have
several
programs
that
were
done
in
the
prison
system
and
we
are
not
being
those
programs
are
not
being
renewed,
and
so
some
of
those
are
going
away,
and
so
it's
not
that
we've
lost
not
lost
people.
We've
not
lost
people
on
campus.
V
The
issues
that
we
have
before
us
is
that
we're
still
trying
to
provide
the
same
services
we
did
five
and
ten
years
ago,
and
part
of
that
is
that
we
are
trying
to
meet
the
needs
of
everyone
who's
in
our
community
and
that's
a
really
difficult
thing
to
do
so.
For
next
year,
when
we've
gone
through
our
budget
process,
if
you'll
picture
a
bullseye
in
front
of
you,
we've
sort
of
said
we're
going
to
concentrate
on
our
core,
there
are
things
we
must
do.
The
next
to
ring
out
is
things
we
should
do.
V
The
next
ring
ring
out
of
things
that
we
it's
nice
to
do
and
then
there's
a
few
things
out
there.
We
don't
know
why
we're
doing
it,
but
people
like
it
and
we
keep
doing
it
and
those
are
gone
just
because
people
like
to
have
them
done
we're
not
doing
them,
and
we've
gone
to
the
nice
to
do
and
cut
those
back.
V
You
may
have
read
the
paper
a
couple
months
ago,
in
anticipation
this
budget,
we
reduced
a
lot
of
our
sections
that
we
would
call
wonderful
nice
things
to
do,
but
we
don't
have
the
ability
to
do
our
core
and
we
got
rid
of
things
or
reduced
them.
I
wouldn't
say
we
got
rid
of
them.
We
certainly
do
we
substantially
reduce
them
things
like
our
art
courses
and
music
courses
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
are
really.
V
This
is
an
area
that
does
those
things
we're
a
great
arts
area
and
but
we
had
to
lose
those
we've
eliminated
a
couple
of
our
programs
this
year
real
estate
program,
because
the
market
had
gone
down
our
decorative
restoration,
which
had
been
our
program
for
years
and
years
and
years
there
was
limited
people
in
that
program
and
limited
enrollment.
So
we've
taken
that
away.
V
We've
had
issues
with
other
programs
out
there
that
we're
saying
to
them,
and
I
don't
want
to
mention
them
public,
yet
don't
want
to
scare
the
heck
out
of
them,
but
there
are
four
or
five
programs
that
we
offer
that
they
need
to
make
sure
that
we
are
are
doing
the
right
thing.
At
ab
tech
we've
created
a
model
where
we're
looking
at
four
different
attributes
for
any
program.
V
What's
the
quality
of
the
program,
how
vital
is
it
to
the
area?
How
viable
is
it
and
then
something
I
call
sleepy,
which
just
is
an
acronym
that
says,
look
at
all
the
common
sense
things
that
go
on
and
can
you
make
a
decision
based
on
this
common
sense?
Things
and
those
programs
will
be
extensively.
Looked
at
this
coming
year
and
by
the
time
we
get
to
next
budget
year,
we'll
have
to
make
some
decisions
about
those
one
way
or
the
other.
V
Less
numbers
of
classes
being
offered
less
choice
in
what's
being
offered
and
I'll
give
you
an
example
in
our
humanities
or
our
language
classes.
We
used
to
offer
french
and
spanish
and
a
lot
of
couple
other
things
just
because
we
wanted
a
a
choice
for
you.
We're
really
coming
down
to
mostly
spanish,
maybe
a
couple
of
french
courses
and
it's
just
choice
being
taken
away
and
a
difference
in
how
you
look
at
things.
Is
it
terrible?
Is
it
horrible?
No,
but
it
really
takes
away
the
educational
experience
that
you
can
get.
V
V
But
after
four
years,
if,
if
things
had
stayed
the
same
and
your
salary
was
the
same,
which
it
is
that's
great
but
we've
had
cost
of
increase
in
gas
and
health
and
many
other
things,
and
so
in
effect,
people
are
really
taking
a
reduction
in
salary
and
that's
really
difficult.
Even
when
you're
the
most
dedicated
folks
possible,
the
cost
of
living
needs
to
be
accounted
for,
and
there
will
be
some
people
who
will
go
to
another
place
because
in
this
environment-
and
we
are
again
prohibited
by
offering
raises
across
the
board.
V
The
only
way
to
get
a
raise
is
to
go
to
jump
to
another
ship.
And,
as
you
go
the
other
ship,
you
negotiate
a
better
salary.
We're
also
doing
something.
We
call
slushing,
which
is
not
a
bad
term,
a
little
bit
better
than
the
freezing
positions.
V
When
a
position
is
vacated
beginning
in
the
2011-12
year.
Instead
of
freezing
and
saying
we're
not
going
to
hire
it
we're
going
to
slush
it,
which
means
for
about
90
to
120
days
that
position's
got
to
stay
empty.
So,
even
if
there's
somebody
at
the
door
saying
I
want
it
and
we've
got
somebody,
we
need
we're
going
to
slush
it
for
a
little
bit
to
kind
of
make
sure
we
have
enough
funding
to
keep
that
open.
So
we
will
hire
it.
You
can
still
be
out
advertising
and
doing
all
the
diligence
to
get
there.
V
We
just
won't
hire
that
position
immediately
on
and
again
just
other
things
that
we've
done
a
reduction,
heavy
super
reduction
in
travel
and
memberships
and
registrations,
and
so
our
professional
development
of
our
staff
is
going
to
be
decreased
in
half.
Is
that
horrible?
No?
Can
you
do
it
for
a
year
so
yeah,
it's
absolutely
true,
but
in
the
long
haul
you
want
your
folks
to
be
as
qualified
and
as
up-to-date
in
the
things
they
do.
So
that's
an
area
for
us.
V
I
would
have
to
tell
you
that
if
it
wasn't
for
the
fact
that
we
did
a
large
number
of
self-supporting
classes
this
year
and
in
our
world,
we
have
two
types
of
classes:
there
are
fte
generating
classes
classes
where
the
state
reimburses
us
money
much
like
adm
or
for
you
guys,
and
then
there
are
self-supporting,
which
must
stand
on
their
own
they've,
charged
a
different
rate.
We
actually
expanded
our
self-supporting
classes
and
had
a
pretty
substantial
increase
in
the
tuition.
V
If
you'll
remember
those
days
as
well
got
a
little
bit
of
ding
on
that
for
doing
that,
because
it
was
a
tuition
increase,
but
self-supporting
tuition
stays
with
the
institution
and
does
not
get
sent
back
to
the
state.
V
Like
all
other
tuition
does
it
was
because
of
that
extra
money
that
we
generated
in
self-supporting
fees
that
kept
us
from
having
to
do
really
what
I
call
major
layoffs
with
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
generated
and
that
money
helped
us
not
go
down
what
I
would
call
the
paper
would
say
today
amputate
we
went
to
the
bone,
we
didn't
have
to
cut
the
bone
in
half,
but
the
bone
would
have
been
severed
and
we
would
have
amputated
something
if
we
hadn't
had
that
money.
V
V
If
you're
listening
to
the
sound
of
my
voice,
please
come
and
register
quickly,
because
if
you
wait
until
august,
there
won't
be
any
classes
for
you
to
come.
So
please
come
fast
and
we
won't
be
able
to
add
classes
like
we've
normally
done
when
we've
come
to
the
july
and
august
and
things
are
filling
up,
we've
gone
and
said
you
know,
let's
add
another
class
or
two.
V
Let's
make
sure
we
do
that,
we
won't
be
able
to
do
that
quite
as
readily
anymore,
because
you
only
have
the
funds
you
have
and
we
have
less
of
them.
We
have
something
called
enrollment
enrollment
growth
at
the
community
college
level,
which
means
if
you
grow,
you
get
more
money,
and
so
we
certainly
did
grow.
V
But
what
we're
really
getting
is
because
we're
paid
in
arrears
we're
paid
a
year
behind
I'm
paying
for
last
year's
growth
or
this
year's
growth
of
last
year's
money,
and
it
was
less
than
I
needed
last
year,
and
so
those
are
issues
that
we
can
struggle
with,
and
I
also
wanted
to
end
on
a
fairly
positive
note.
This
the
session
wasn't
totally
horrible
for
us.
V
Like
many
folks,
we've
asked
over
and
over
to
operate
like
a
business.
Many
of
you
know
that
we
don't
keep
our
own
tuition.
Many
of
you
know
we
don't
keep
our
own
fund
balance.
Many
folks
have
asked
many
times
in
the
last
few
months,
especially
as
we've
gone
out
and
talked
about
the
sales
tax
initiative.
Why
don't
you
guys
just
save
money
like
the
businesses?
Do?
Why?
Don't
you
just
take
some
money
and
over
the
next
few
years,
save
it?
We
don't
get
our.
We
don't
keep
our
tuition.
V
We
don't
get
any
tuition
that
we
keep
it's
redistributed,
but
we've
asked
for.
Can
we
keep
a
fund
balance?
Can
we
do
that?
That
did
not
pass
this
year,
but
there
were
some
things
that
did
pass
we
do
have
now.
Unlike
sounds
like
tony
and
alan
did.
We
now
have
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
on
transferring
between
funds,
which
is
wonderful,
because
you've
got
a
pot
of
money
and
before
it
used
to
be.
V
We
also
have
the
ability
what
we
call
over
realized
receipts.
The
state
budgets
for
us,
based
on
an
assumed
number
of
people,
going
to
come
to
register
at
a
community
college
and
if
it's
greater
than
that,
it's
called
over
realized
receipts
and
they're
going
to
allow
a
college
who
grows
by
more
than
five
percent
to
use
some
of
those
over-realized
receipts
if
they're
already
so,
hopefully,
if
we
continue
to
grow,
we
can
actually
use
some
money
this
year.
That
would
be
necessary.
Now.
V
Basic
skills
just
allows
us
to
use
some
money
in
conjunction
with
developmental,
and
we
also
were
given
the
opportunity
that
if
we
do
not
use
state
funds
and
we're
doing
a
building
program,
our
major
renovation
program,
we
used
to
have
to
use
the
state
construction
office
to
get
that
approved,
and
it
really
added
many
many
weeks
and
sometimes
months
to
the
process
that
has
been
taken
out
of
that.
V
So
we
have
no
if
we
are
doing
a
project
with
no
state
funds,
and
we
get
permission
from
the
state
board
of
community
colleges
that
we
have
the
expertise
to
handle
it.
We
don't
have
to
do
that.
That'll
save
us
some
time
and
effort,
and
again
we've
been
had
some
audit
critics
audit
requirements
eliminated
before.
If
you
had
wonderful
audits-
and
you
were
doing
great-
you
still
had
to
have
another
audit-
it's
called
the
eagle
audit
to
make
sure
the
first
audit
was
okay
and
that's
been
eliminated
now.
V
So,
if
you
have
a
good
audit,
you
don't
have
to
do
anything
else.
So
some
of
this
is
common
sense
and
then
they
also
added
some
flexibility
in
how
we
do
our
investments
overall
we're
going
to
continue
to
meet
our
mission.
I
had
a
very
hard
question
asked
me
yesterday
by
the
editorial
board.
It
didn't
make
the
paper
today.
I
don't
know
if
it'll
make
the
editorial,
but
they
asked
me
if
things
are
as
tough
as
they
are
hank
and
you
have
to
make
a
decision.
V
Will
you
give
up
your
economic
development
efforts
and
because
you
need
to
put
it
into
higher
education
efforts
and
the
answer
was
no
we'll
never
give
up
the
educational
efforts
and
will
not
give
up
the
economic
efforts
to
grow
in
this
environment
means
that
we
have
to
be
committed
to
growing
our
region.
Economically-
and
we
also
that
would
be
tempting
to
be
our
part
of
the
seed
corn
that
we
dipped
into-
we
don't
want
to
do
that,
and
we're
not
going
to
do
that.
V
We
will
survive
this
one
time,
but
I
would
like
to
echo
dr
baldwin's
concern.
It's
probably
not
2011
12
that
the
public
will
notice.
The
students
will
definitely
notice
when
they
come
in
their
choice
in
selection,
but
next
year,
when
we
cut
off
one
of
our
arms
you'll
notice,
can
I
answer
any
questions
just.
P
V
V
Better,
we
pray
that
it
will
other
questions.
What's
the
enrollment
now
we
have
about
8
100
credit
students,
curriculum
students,
and
we
have
about
18
000
non-credit
students
we're
about
26
or
27
000
students.
This
year
we
expect
to
continue
to
grow
as
long
as
the
economy
is
doing
poorly
again.
This
year
I
will
use
example
of
our
self-supporting
classes.
There
was
a
potential
that
we
could
have
not
grown
at
all,
because
when
the
tuition
went
up,
we
grew
by
seven
percent.
V
People
recognize
we're
still
a
bargain,
we're
still
here
we're
still
trying
to
do
classes
that
they
need
when
they
want
them,
and
so
I
think
people
will
continue
to
come
and
if
the
economy
doesn't
recover,
it
will
grow
again
next
year.
In
spite-
and
we've
done
things
like
this
k12
has
done
upped
our
class
sizes.
You
know
to
fit
those
people
in
because
we
don't
want
to
turn
anybody
away.
V
C
N
N
We
have
been
able
to
place
all,
but
about
five
of
those
people
a
couple
of
those
still
making
decisions
about
school.
In
the
course
of
this
budget,
we've
contracted
out
a
number
of
services,
a
b
tech
child
care
center
is
now
being
run
by
av
tech,
a
resource
and
referral
has
been
contracted
out.
We
will
be
contracting
out
prenatal,
mobility
and
workforce
development,
so
there's
a
lot
of
transition
taking
place
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
these
employees
are
that
are
that
are
moving
into
other
organizations.
N
The
departments
did
take
a
seven
point,
a
total
of
seven
point:
nine
million
dollars
in
cuts
so
that
we're
able
to
meet
the
other
growing
needs
that
we
have.
We
did
not
cut
education
funding.
You've
heard
all
three
of
our
our
doctors
say
that
that
we
didn't
cut
the
funding
for
education.
In
fact,
we
did
fund
the
new
schools
which
gave
asheville
city
school
a
bit
more
money.
Also,
that
was
a
little
over
three
million
dollars
that
we
added
to
the
budget.
N
What
we
are
finding
is
the
state
budgeting
budget
is
a
little
less
damaging
than
we
had
initially
thought,
and
we
stood
here
four
or
five
weeks
ago
there
they
did
put
back
a
fair
amount
of
the
lottery
funds,
as
the
counties
across
the
state
said.
You
know,
we've
committed
these
things
for
debt
service
and
we're
going
to
have
to
raise
property
tax.
If
we
don't
get
the
lottery
funds
back,
they
did
put
back
an
amount
sufficient
to
cover
the
debt
service.
N
They
did
not
shift
school
bus
replacement
to
counties
that,
and
for
that
I
am
extremely
grateful.
They
did
change
the
proposal
on
misdemeanors.
We
still
are
going
to
need
to
house
them
from
the
91st
to
the
180th
day
in
local
jails,
but
that's
going
to
be
done
by
contract.
There's
a
revenue
stream
coming
from
court
fees
and
the
state
will
manage
that
with
contracts
with
the
counties
and
we
will
be
reimbursed
for
the
housing,
the
medical
care,
supervision
and
transport
costs
for
these
inmates.
N
There's
still
a
couple
of
pieces
of
that
legislation
that
we
worry
about
probation
officers
are
going
to
have
some
ability
to
put
people
in
jail
for
six
days
for
violation
of
probation
and
it's
they're
going
to
have
a
lot
more
flexibility
with
that.
We're
still
looking
how
that
really
will
impact
us,
and
we
did
see
that
the
state
budget-
that's
now
with
the
governor-
decreases
individual
income
tax
rates
by
a
quarter
of
a
percent.
N
None
of
us
get
the
privilege
of
living
in
one
year.
We
are
wrapping
up
fiscal
year
11.
we
are
going
to
wrap
it
up
very
well.
You
asked
me
the
question
when
I
stood
here
before,
where
we're
going
to
make
it
without
spending
the
fund
balance
and
the
answer
that
question
is
now.
Yes,.
G
N
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
will
post
the
fee,
changes
behind
the
with
the
ordinance
next
time
so
that
we
know
what
you're
at
we're
asking
you
to
take
a
look
at
for
fees.
We
have
not
incorporated
any
of
those
fees
into
the
projected
budget
because
we're
just
not
having
the
growth
in
the
construction
that
we've
had
before.
N
Thank
you
very
very
much
for
accepting
a
six
and
a
half
million
dollar
gift
that
will.
Let
us
improve
our
radio
system.
That
was
tremendous
has
been
a
phenomenal
amount
of
work
done
by
our
public
safety
folks,
our
I.t
folks
legal
finance,
to
get
us
ready
to
accept
that
gift
and
make
that
a
really
positive
experience
for
buncombe
county.
So
thank
you
very,
very
much
for
accepting
that.
N
We
are
going
through
a
period
too,
where
we're
trying
to
take
advantage
of
the
low
interest
rates
that
are
we're
able
to
borrow
money
with
right
now,
just
at
a
really
low
rate
and
we're
also
getting
very
good
rates
on
any
construction
that
we're
doing
so
that
we
can
we're
able
to
build
out
our
construction
plan.
So
a
lot
of
good
things
are
happening.
They're
included
in
this
budget
that
that
we're
having
a
hearing
on
tonight,
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
would
have.
But
before
we
hear
from
the
public.
A
K
Sounds
so
good
to
hear
the
schools
here
for
the
first
time
in
decades
it
ain't
all
negative
down
in
raleigh
that
we're
hearing
it
ain't
all
bad.
You
got
to
do
a
little
bit
of
feather
fluffing
to
find
out
where
the
chicken's
at-
and
I
think
it's
good
to
have
that
dialogue
that
we're
having.
I
think,
raleigh
has
kind
of
stimulated
some
of
the
democrats
to
start
thinking
again
and
likewise
I
think
it's
great
for
both
sides.
K
When
you
look
at
the
tax
re-evaluation
for
bunking
county,
you
didn't
do
a
re-evaluation.
Therefore
you
let
the
tax
money
grow.
I've
already
told
you
that
I've
already
give
you
information
on
how
many
47
million
dollars
now
here's
the
other
thing.
You
look
at
the
tax
rate
that
for
the
fire
department,
the
ambulance,
those
things
have
been
consistently
staying,
they're
not
coming
up
and
down
like
they
have
been
in
years
ends
have
left
that
the
same.
K
All
this
money
is
still
increasing
in
different
areas
that
I'm
telling
you
about,
because
it's
staying
the
same
all
right,
buncombe
county's
got
a
school
capital
program
for
schools,
none
like
it
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
thank
god
for
it.
But
on
the
other
hand,
here
we
are
brag
about
something
about
how
good
or
how
bad
it
is.
But
then
turn
around
we've
got
something
good
to
say:
we've
got
some
positive
things,
but
that's
a
tax
increase
to
the
county
people,
even
though
it's
for
a
good
thing.
K
It's
still
a
tax
increase
school
fund
balance
coming
from
a
teacher
supplement
that
has
been
staying
at
six
to
eight
million
for
the
last
10
12
years
that
we
have
consistently
told
you
about.
They
don't
have
to
carry
a
fund
balance,
but
yet
now
under
using
it,
some
of
it
2.5
million,
I
believe
they've
still
got
5.7
million
over
there.
K
I
I
I
I
I
You
don't
understand
that
the
seed
corn
comes
from
the
working
people
and
you
keep
on
going
up
on
the
rates
and
you
keep
up
on
keeping
the
tax
rates
up
and
you
keep
increasing
your
budget
52
percent
since
2000,
where
you
going
to
be
nobody
at
any
of
these
school
meetings
that
I
went
to
ask
the
question:
where
is
the
money
going
to
come
from?
Okay,
we
have
a
year
around
school
that
sure
ain't
going
to
happen
without
an
increase
in
the
money
and
by
the
way.
I
V
I
just
wanted
to
stay
around
for
the
public
comment,
because
I
hanked
on
a
b
tech
president.
I
just
want
to
commend
the
commissioners
I
I
know
you're,
like
everyone
else,
you're
having
to
go
through
these
budgets.
It's
tough
times,
you're
doing
the
best
you
can,
but
you
have
held
a
b
tech.
Harmless
you've
helped
us
when
we
needed
help.
You've
been
there
for
us
and
we
appreciate
all
that
you've
done
for
us
and
I
just
wanted
to
go
on
the
record
to
say
that
publicly.
V
M
Reverend
lisa
landis
glow
lady
in
the
internet,
glo
lady,
will
find
me,
and
I
was
very
appreciative
that
none
of
the
services
were
cut.
Unfortunately,
ur
tv
is
not
on
that
on
that
list,
and
I
know
that
there
was
1.5
million
that
was
to
go
towards
and
I
didn't
get
to
see.
So
I
would
like
to
know
how
much
money
was
going
to
be
designated
for
our
public
access
television.
M
A
M
Way
way,
cool
way,
cool.
I'm
really
glad
to
hear
that
today,
in
in
raleigh
house,
bill
577
was
was
was
getting
heard.
I
haven't
heard
about
the
vote
of
it,
but
that
was
for
the
medical
marijuana
ben
scales.
The
attorney
who
introduced
the
the
house
bill
was
a
guest
on
one
of
the
tv
shows
that
I
had
co-produced
and
he
had
stated
that
in
the
first
year
that
it
would
be
250
million
dollars
that
the
state
would
would
profit
from
and-
and
it's
like.
M
M
Because
that's
something
that
I
don't
quite
understand.
People
told
me
that
you
guys
don't
listen
to
me
because
I
don't
speak
in
your
bureaucratic
language
and
I
was
always
told
that
you
know
the
government
was
of
the
people
for
the
people
and
by
the
people.
So
if
you
guys
don't
understand
what
I'm
saying
then
does
that
mean
that
you
guys
are
not
of
the
people
for
the
people
and
by
the
people?
M
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
the
public
comment
and
getting
some
questions
answered,
because
I'm
going
to
keep
coming
in
front
of
you
and
maybe
one
of
these
days,
I'm
actually
going
to
have
a
list
of
of
things
instead
of
just
letting
it
fly
off
the
top
of
my
head,
so
you
guys
are
teaching
me
a
lot
about
bureaucratic
stuff.
Thank
you.
W
Prophet
christopher,
I
was
listening
to
your
education
and
the
county
and
stuff.
I
did
some
quick
math
based
on
30
students
when
I
was
going
to
school-
and
I
just
talked
to
your
people
and
they
said
it's
20.,
but
we'll
go
with
this
30
figures
since
I
don't
want
to
redo
the
math.
W
If
you
gave
your
teacher
40
000
a
year,
that
means
you're
spending
for
a
classroom
of
30
students,
260
000
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
budget.
For
you,
our
tv,
a
lot
of
smoke
a
lot
of
smoke,
so,
let's
get
rid
of
the
smoke.
What
was
the
smoke?
All
the
bs,
the
real
truth
is
your
tv
entered
a
contract
with
this
county
and
with
the
city
and
fulfill
it
beyond
that.
A
A
W
W
It
is
interesting
that
mathematically
when
I
look
at
my
education-
and
I
grew
up
mostly
in
california
and
when
it
comes
to
my
spelling,
it's
things,
because
teachers
accepted
k.a.t
as
cat
as
long
as
they
knew
what
you
were
saying,
and
so
I
you
know
when
I
got
to
as
an
adult
went
to
college.
I
kind
of
considered
bam
was
california
really
messed
up
until
I
started
dealing
with
the
students
of
today,
students
of
today
have
no
common
sense.
I
had
one
guy.
This
is
about
our
budget.
I.
A
W
W
W
I
looked
at
your
budget
and
about
70
of
it
is
confusing
to
me
why
so
much
money
is
being
made
or
actually
being
spent,
especially
in
education,
because
it's
interesting
part
of
the
budget
for
education
is
based
on
the
lottery
which
we
were
promised
that
the
money
from
the
lottery
would
go
for
education,
I've
checked
and
very
little
of
the
percentage
of
the
money
going
from
the
lottery
actually
goes
to
the
students.
W
Most
of
it
goes
to
pay
for
two
or
three
principals
in
a
school
plus
assistant,
principals,
plus
staff,
plus
additional
staff
that
we
never
had
as
a
as
a
student.
When
I
was
a
kid,
so
I
think
that
maybe
you
need
to
re-look
at
the
educational
budget
and
say
gee:
do
we
need
three
principals
in
a
high
school?
Do
we
need
three
vice
principals.
A
J
Mike
for
our
fireview
in
your
budget,
I
saw
one
thing:
I'd
seen
the
whole
thing
and
I
saw
my
screen
say:
everybody's
cutting
three
to
ten
percent.
Well,
how
does
a
26
million
dollar
budget
go
to
28,
mi
or
27.8
sheriff's
budget
went
up.
J
It
started
out
in
04
at
18
million,
when
mr
medford
left
now
it's
at
27
8,
that's
almost
10
million
dollars,
where's
the
cuts.
We
got
a
building
across
the
street
over
here
that
we're
going
to
spend
400
some
thousand
dollars
on
a
new
one
of
these
rooms
and
seven
offices.
J
There's
gonna
be
district
elections,
people
the
people
that
are
elected
in
districts,
whoever
runs
can
go
to
a
library
or
a
fire
department.
Talk
to
the
people
in
their
district
with
having
without
having
to
come
up
town
to
go,
see
somebody
in
an
office
in
a
part-time
job
david.
You
work,
full-time,
you
don't
get
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
your
office.
Neither
do
you
holly
anybody
that
wants
to
work
in
the
district.
If
it's
going
to
be
leecester,
it's
going
to
be
fair
of
you
going
to
be
black
mountain.
J
J
J
J
Well,
we
made
two
appointments
for
the
city,
one
to
the
transit
and
one
two,
this
what
you
call
a
town
up
here,
coliseum
or.
J
J
About
the
budget
we're
getting,
let's
just
quit
truthfully
just
just
quit,
you
know
I
explained
to
you
the
sheriff.
You
know
he
wants
200
more
thousand
over
what
he
had
marty
alva
stood
here
and
says
at
527,
prisoners
will
have
to
hire
more
help.
They
have
400
or
less
prisoners
right
now,
how
come
he
came
back
down
there
by
seven
or
eight
people
and
saved
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
all.
L
Dr
milton
byrd,
buncombe
county
resident-
I
I
want
to
recognize
first
off.
No
one
sitting
in
those
seats
has
an
easy
time
dealing
with
this
budget
issue.
Having
looked
at
budgets
myself,
I
know
how
challenging
it
is
to
communicate
it
and
to
get
people
to
understand
it.
This
is
one
reason
why
I
would
like
to
ask
you
to
begin
thinking
about
next
year's
budget,
as
some
interim
steps
to
create
public
forums
to
talk
about
the
budget,
because
I
don't
want
to
see
an
amputation
become
a
decapitation.
L
If
they
don't
understand,
they
will
be
part
of
the
problem.
Your
challenge,
as
leaders
is
to
begin
building
a
communication
that
re
that
reinvents
the
communication
on
this
budget.
It
is
so
hard
to
understand
for
the
public
that,
if
you
don't
take
the
time
between
now
and
next
year,
when
we
get
to
this
point-
that
there
will
be
a
great
deal
more
turmoil
over
the
difficult
challenges
of
funding
ahead.
L
I
ask
you
to
really
think
about
how
you
communicate
with
the
people
on
this
funding
issue,
how
we
can
reinvent
this
difficult
problem
into
a
pathway
of
communication
and
solution
where
we
establish
trusting
communications
with
a
local
government,
because
we
don't
have
it
at
the
state
level
and
we
don't
have
it
at
the
federal
level.
We
come
to
our
local
government
that
where
we
can
have
trust
and
communication
with
that's
the
ultimate
challenge
of
leadership
in
service
to
the
people,
for
the
people
by
the
people
and
now
with
the
people.
L
C
F
A
Done
all
right
great
next
up
we
have
the
designation
of
the
naco
voting
member
for
the
national
convention.
A
I'll,
second,
that
any
discussion,
any
other
nominations
all
those
in
favor
of
designating
vice
chair
stanley
is
our
voting
member,
say
hi
hi
I'll
oppose
note.
Thank
you.
Vice
chair
stanley,.
A
Next
up,
we
have,
let's
see,
board
appointments,
weberville's
zoning
board
of
adjustment.
Mr.
A
All
those
in
favor
of
appointing
mr
church
to
this
board
say
I'm
all
right.
P
A
A
A
A
The
board
plans
to
continue
the
june
21
meeting
to
june
28
and
then
again
on
july,
21
25.
So
we'll
have
a
three-part
meeting
continuation
meeting.
Commissioner
meetings
can
be
seen
on
bctv
charter,
cable,
channel
2
on
tuesday
and
thursday
at
8
pm
wednesday
at
3
p.m,
saturday
and
sunday
at
9
00
a.m
or
online
anytime.
At
buncombecounty.org.
A
H
Sir,
mr
chairman,
pursuant
to
general
statute,
143
318
11
a
sub
four,
we
have
one
economic
development
matter
to
discuss
and
under
subsection
three,
we
have
two
attorney
matters:
one
under
the
attorney-client
privilege
involving
a
potential
legal
matter
and
another
involving
a
workers.
Comp
matter
anticipate
no
action
from
this
from
the
closed
session
other
than
direction
from
the
board.
A
N
A
A
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
making
it
happen,
but
we
told
you
repeatedly
you're
going
to
have
to
find
alternative
funding
all
along
all
your
leaders.
You
did
400
000
hours
of
broadcasting
and
didn't
charge
the
people
a
nickel
to
do
that.
He
did
it
for
free
and
now
you're.
Coming
to
us,
we've
always
said
you
have.
We
had
discretion
over
the
money
we
get
from
the
cable
companies.
It's
been
that
way
from
again.
Nothing
has
ever
changed.
A
That
was
the
deal.
It
was
always
the
deal.
We
told
you
this
all
along
the
state
changed
the
rules
a
few
years
ago
and
your
money
got
cut
even
more,
we
told
you
you
had
to
find
alternative
sources.
We
gave
you,
we
gave
you
a
consultant
to
help.
You
find
ways
to
raise
money
and
keep
the
thing
up.
One
way
you
could
have
done,
it
is
charge
even
50
cents
an
hour.
A
You
could
have
met
your
budget
on
your
your
programming,
but
your
board
chose
not
to,
and
that's
your
prerogative
because
we
didn't
get
involved
in
that
because
it's
it's
the
public
access
and
so
that's
the
way
it
was
set
up.
That's
the
way
it
should
be.
You
shouldn't
be
here
the
the
money
that
your
board
asked
for
would
have
been
88
from
public
money
and
that's
not
right.
No
other
station
operates
like
that.
Every
non-profit,
I
know,
pays
their
own
way
and
for
whatever
reason,
urt,
the
the
leadership
ertv
chose
not
to
do
that.
A
Now
we're
going
to
try
to
keep
it
alive
with
who
other
means
we're
talking
to
the
city.
I
know
that
kathy
hughes
is
in
regular
contact
with
lauren
bradley,
I
believe
with
the
city
we'd
like
to
see
something
there,
but
we
are
not
this.
This
board,
in
my
opinion,
is
not
going
to
put
money
for
you,
our
tv
over
education,
law
enforcement
and
other
core
services.
We
do
and
we've
never
intended
to
do
that
we
never
have.
A
We
did
negotiate
a
deal.
We
got
some
money
we
gave
what
was
entitled
to
under
the
contract.
We
have
always
chosen
and
will
continue
to
choose.
I
think
anybody
sits
up
here
is
going
to
put
a
priority
over
you're
competing
with
education,
law
enforcement
and
core
services
in
a
tight
budget
year.
There's
no
chance
now
we're
hoping.
Maybe
somebody
could
come
up
with
another
model.
That's
where
you
come
in,
come
up
with
another
way
to
do
it
come
up
with
something
else.
A
You
got
the
equipment
for
now,
but
you
got
to
move
fast
and
you've
had
years
and
years
and
years
to
plan
this
out.
This
isn't
news
because
I've
got
notes
where
I
told
your
leadership.
This
years
ago
we
gave
consultant
art.
John
john
howell
worked
with
you
met
with
you
told
you
this
was
coming,
gave
you
numbers
gave
you
ways
other
places
do
it.
There
are
other
ways
you
could
have
done
it.
A
We
don't
get
involved,
but
now
you're
here
saying
we
need
a
bailout
and
there
was
never
in
the
plan
never
considered,
and
we
never
told
you
that,
because
we
couldn't,
because
we
knew
the
budget.
We
saw
this
budget
coming
down.
The
road
dr
green
has
told
us
through
the
years
this
is
going
to
be
a
bad
year.
We
didn't
know
how
bad
until
this
the
budget
came
out.
So
that's
the
way
it's
been.
I
hope
that
there's
there's
nothing
cut,
there's
nothing!
There's
nothing
in
there.
A
You
know
anything
we're
entitled
to
by
law
we'll
put
out
someone
wants
to
come
up
with
it
and
what's
the
amount,
dr
green,
you
know
4
500,
but
they
have
equipment
right
now.
If
somebody
can
come
up,
the
city
has
equipment
so
now
you're
dealing
with
the
city
also
you're
going
to
have
to
work
with
them
because
under
the
contract,
as
I
understand
it,
the
city
revert
the
ownership
reverted
back
to
the
city
of
asheville
for
the
equipment.
C
X
My
name
is
carol
taylor
buncombe
county
resident.
I
would
just
like
to
know
what
went
wrong
other
than
the
other
than
the
alternative
funding
that
you
expected
your
tv
to
have.
Is
there
like
lack
of
professionalism?
Is
there
any
of
these
things
that
diversity
differences?
That
count
I
mean
I
just
would
like
to
know
myself.
A
X
All
right
well,
my
comment
is,
as
I'm
not
totally
understanding
everything
and,
like
some
of
the
gentlemen
and
ladies
said
earlier,
that
I
believe
it's
important
to
understand
the
whole
picture
and
of
course
I
do
not,
so
I
won't
apologize
for
it.
So
for
me
I
just
would
like
to
understand
that
if
there's
a
new
proposal
coming,
would
it
only
go
to
the
city
or
would
it
go
back
to
the
county?
How
does
it
work?
X
That's
what
I
would
like
to
know,
because,
from
my
personal
opinion,
I
think
there
could
have
been
a
little
more
professionalism,
a
little
less
backbiting
between
everyone,
a
little
more
cooperation
and
so
having
said
that,
I'd
like
to
see
what
futuristic
needs
would
be
required
and
to
whom
they
go
to.
Since
you
just
said,
I
do
believe.
I
don't
know
your
name,
sir.
What
is
it.
A
Oh,
it's
public
comment.
I'm
david
gant,
the
chairman,
oh.
Q
X
Like
to
know,
because
I
see
value
in
public
television,
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
it
swept
under
the
carpet
for
financial
any
other
reasons,
because,
if
it's
of
benefit
to
others,
so
whatever
happened
to
the
past
the
lack
of
the
stuff
that
didn't
happen,
the
stuff
that
could
have
happened.
My
only
interest
is
to
know
what
can
happen
and
to
whom
and
how
fast
and
what
has
to
happen
right
now.
So
that
is
it
sir.
I'm
done.
M
I
am
lisa
landis
glow,
lady
glo
lady,
why
you
can
see
quite
a
few
of
my
other
other
shows
that
that
I've
produced
over
300
hours-
and
it's
like
I
I
come
here
and
I
look
at
that
flag
and
I
say
my
pledge
of
allegiance
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
I'm
really
disgusted.
M
It's
like
you
hear
one
thing
you
hear
another
you
get
1.5
million,
you
know
designated.
Oh,
no,
that's
not
your
money.
It's
going
to
be
used
for
this
and
it's
like
where's.
My
first
amendment:
where
can
I?
Where
can
I
hold
my
government
accountable
there
were
shows
on?
You
are
tv
that
that
exposed
the
corruption
in
this
county.
We
have
had
people
who
came
up
here
to
this
stand
and
had
said
what
about
this
person?
Oh,
but
you
have
to
be
quiet.
We're
not
allowed
to
talk
about
things
like
that.
M
Where
can
I
redress
my
government
as
to
things
that
are
not
done
right,
if
not
for
public
access?
I
have
been
in
front
of
you
guys
for
three
and
a
half
years.
Why
couldn't
we
we
find
more
more
money?
Do
you
know
that
it
took
two
of
us
two
weeks
to
raise
seven
hundred
dollars
well
who's
going
to
volunteer
who's
going
to
volunteer
to
bring
in
funds
I'm
tired
of
working
for
no
money.
You
guys
get
cushy
jobs.
Why
can't
you
donate
some
of
your
time
to
raise
money?
No,
you
are
politicians.
M
No,
your
government
government
doesn't
look
after
the
people.
Government
looks
after
itself,
I'm
sorry,
but
that
is
what
I
see
and
I'm
tired
of
it.
I'm
tired
of
coming
up
and
it's
like.
Oh
no,
you
were
supposed
to
raise
your
own
money.
Well,
how
can
we
raise
our
own
money
when
the
negativity
that
comes
out
of
is
crap?
A
W
W
Everything's
in
there,
okay,
I'm
brother
christopher.
I
found
out
that
when
you
certified
public
access
for
274
thousand
dollars,
you
told
the
state
that
that's
how
much
it
would
take
to
run
it
274
thousand.
I
thank
you
for
the
evidence
that
is
now
on
record.
That
proves
that
this
board,
or
the
prior
board
presented
a
fraud
to
the
state.
W
You
told
you,
the
county,
told
the
state
that
the
budget
necessary
to
fulfill
federal
law.
The
mandate
to
give
public
access
was
274
000.
That
means
that
274
thousand
dollars
belongs
not
to
the
county.
The
county
is
just
a
pass
by
yes.
So
when
you
go
to
jail,
remember
this
day,
because
everyone
who,
from
the
beginning
that
started
public
access,
told
the
state
of
north
carolina
that
the
minimum
budget
necessary
was
274
thousand
dollars
and
he
said
we
got
to
raise
money.
Do
you
pay
for
your
hamburger
twice?
W
I
don't
you
say:
well,
you
should
have
paid
50
cents,
a
minute
I
mean
but
or
an
hour
it
doesn't
matter.
You
see.
Why
should
we
have
to
pay
since
it
was
already
paid
and
said?
Yes,
the
state
messed
up
because
it
used
to
be
just
charter
cable.
It
used
to
be
just
to
pay
grant
to
pay
for
the
access
to
the
public
land,
but
you
all
messed
up
when
you
made
it
a
tax.
W
One
charter
no
longer
can
deduct
that
1.5
million
as
a
tax
write-off
as
a
business
write-off.
Anybody
who
knows
taxes
knows
that,
because
it
no
longer
is
a
business
expense.
All
they're
doing
is
collecting
a
tax.
So
now
everybody
who
has
video
audio
whatever
now
pays
for
public
access.
Now
you
have
more
money,
but
the
fraud
isn't
the
fact
that
you
presented
to
the
state
that
the
minimum
budget
necessary
to
fulfill
the
federal
law
was
274
thousand
dollars.
W
W
You
owe
minus
what
you
paid
each
year
up
to
the
274
000
a
year,
which
means,
if
you
don't
recontract
with
your
tv,
that
money
will
go
to
them
and
second,
they
fulfill
their
contract.
Beyond
that
they
not
only
gave
us
public
access
through
charter.
They
gave
us
the
internet
international,
which
means
you
had
a
legitimate
reason
to
have
fire
death.
W
A
W
A
Y
Y
Y
Y
Some
of
my
favorite
shows
on
busy
tv
is
this
the
sheriff's
office,
which
is
about
the
boat
county
sheriff's
office,
and
I
believe
that
was
called
county
now
bum
cai
now,
or
something
like
that
inside
the
us
army
inside
the
air
force
and
a
lot
more,
which
I
couldn't
ride
because
we'd
be
all
know.
If
I
did
that,
just
thank
you
for
all.
You
do.
A
I
I'll
pull
dr
baldwin
I'll
end
on
a
positive
note.
There's
one
thing
good
about
you,
tv
david.
You
kept
me
over
there
doing
my
show,
and
I
wasn't
here
to
agitate
you
and
all
these
other
people
wouldn't
be
here
to
agitate
you,
so
it
might
be
worth
an
investment
to
do
that,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
get
angry
and
run
people
out
of
here,
because
that
don't
look
good
on
the
tv
up
there.
I
Of
course,
some
of
them
some
people
may
like
it,
because
they
don't
like
the
individuals
but
you've
heard
a
lot
tonight,
and
I
appreciate
what
the
gentleman
said
about
building
a
relationship
of
trust
with
people
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
suggestion.
Of
course,
any
suggestion
I
give
you
nobody
ever
does
it
you
wait
four
or
five
years
later
you
do
it.
Thank
you
wander
for
putting
you
windows
in
the
courthouse.
I
I
I
mean
how
much
money
did
we
waste
not
doing
those
windows,
but
it's
very
simple:
what
you
do
is
you
go
to
the
internet?
You
take
an
excel
spreadsheet
check
number
amount
of
check
to
whom
the
check
was
written
and
the
budget
line
item
that
that
check's
assigned
to
that's
all
you
do
it's
simple.
You
have
that
information
in
your
county
department
and
then
the
people.
If
they
have
an
interest
in
ur
tv,
they
can
look
at
that
budget
line
item
for
the
year.
I
If
they
have
an
interest
in
education,
they
can
have
it
in
a
year.
And
what
then
you
further
do
to
show
leadership?
Is
anybody
that
gets
your
money,
buncombe
county
education
department,
a
b
tech
if
they
get
a
dime
of
the
tax
money
of
the
buncombe
county
people
they
have
to
make
their
books
the
same
way?
I
I
I
A
All
right,
thank
you,
mr
yap.
More
public
comment:
let's
go
with
mike
and
then
milton
you
yeah.
Yes,
sir.
J
I
brought
an
issue
up
a
while
back
on
against
what
your
all
salaries
was,
and
I
asked
for
one
more
thing
in
it,
and
that
was
people
that
made
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
cut
their
salaries.
Five
percent
I've
talked
to
the
sheriff
quite
a
few
times.
The
sheriff
has
been
on
tv
and
he
says
that
he
has
cut
his
salary
or
it
will
be
cut.
J
As
of
the
new
budget
date,
I
asked,
I
know,
there's
six
people
sitting
up
here
that
make
as
much
or
more
than
he
does
and
the
bad
times
and
the
way
the
salaries
got
worked
around
through
the
37
hours
to
the
40-hour
thing
we're
hurting
as
as
a
community,
and
I
think
it
would
look
good
for
these
people
to
go
ahead
and
cut
their
salaries.
I
know
one
other
person,
that's
in
that
bracket.
J
J
J
Don't
care
what
they
make
in
guilford.
Don't
care
what
they
make
in
henderson.
I
care
what
they
make
in
buncombe
county
we're
buying
buildings
at
nine
million
dollars,
we're
spending
four
and
a
half
million
dollars
moving
stuff
around
across
the
way
we're
redoing
courthouses
we've
got
25
million
dollar
jail
sitting
over
here.
We've
got
all
these
things
and
I
understand
people
make
a
living
and
but
it
goes
back
to
thing
I
sit
and
looked
at
the
city
budget.
J
The
gentleman
give
the
budget
and
the
salary
out
of
that
60
million
dollar
budget
was
41
million
dollars.
You
take
3
800
students,
that's
over
10
000,
a
student.
If
a
teacher
makes
forty
thousand
dollars
and
there's
twenty
students
in
that
class,
that's
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
where's
the
salary
at
you
know.
If
I
got
twenty
students
at
ten
thousand
dollars,
each
that's
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
you
know
how
do
you
come
up?
41
million
dollars
worth
of
salaries
unless
there's
just
like.
J
We
got
here
a
lot
overhead
because
the
teachers
is
not
making
it
it's
a
superintendence.
It's
the
lore
people.
It's
the
people,
that's
not
physically
teaching,
the
kids.
You
have
charter
schools,
they
don't
get
the
buildings
they
pay
for
their
buildings,
the
teachers.
I
know
one
at
evergreen.
He
hasn't
had
a
raise
in
over
three
years,
but
he
loves
his
kids,
don't
know
if
they
get
the
benefits
of
being
able
to
retire
or
not.
But
we've
got
to
look
at
that.
I
want
teachers,
but
it
could
be.
L
A
lot
of
stress
in
here
tonight
from
just
from
the
past
history
of
what's
been
said
on
your
tv,
I
have
been
a
producer
of
your
tv
for
a
tv
show
and
trying
to
look
at
what
I've
come
in
to
see.
I've
wanted
to
be
a
problem.
Solver
and
I've
been
doing
some
of
my
research
going
back
to
1987
when
the
u.s
supreme
court
created
the
the
pay
channel
basis
in
public
access
and
education
and
government.
L
That's
why
I
wanted
to
make
the
recommendation
earlier
with
the
budget
that
you
begin
on
a
regular
basis,
having
open
public
forums
for
interaction
with
the
public
with
the
people,
because
they
can't
see
the
problems
or
the
methods
of
solving
them
that
you
do
as
an
elected
official
working
within
the
bureaucracy.
It's
it's
an
impossibility.
L
L
O
Z
I'm
more
confused
right
now
than
I
have
been
coming
to
all
these
meetings.
I
appreciate
that
you
were
expressing
yourself
to
us
david,
that's
the
first
time.
I've
heard
those
expressions
and
I've
been
coming
almost
a
year
and
a
half
now.
A
I
mean,
let
me
stop
right,
there
didn't.
We
have
a
meeting.
I
was
not
at
this.
Is
it
not
true?
We
had
a
meeting
where
john
howell
came
here.
He
explained
the
position.
Mr
frew
explained
the
position.
You
explained
the
position
for
several
hours.
That
was
my
understanding.
Is
that
correct?
So
you
know
we.
H
A
Z
Go
ahead,
but
it
might
give
her
time,
maybe
in
my
mind
it
it
did
because
I
didn't
really
appreciate
mr
hall,
because
he
right
away
said
that
our
state
was
throwing
us
under
the
bus,
and
I
found
out
that
isn't
true.
The
state
didn't
throw
us
under
the
bus
and
I
think
we're
blaming
raleigh
for
a
lot
of
things
and
we're
just
throwing
our
state.
Our
state
means
as
much
to
me
as
our
county
does
so
that
you
know
approaching
it
that
way,
really
upset
me.
Then
we
called
our
representatives
and
they
said.
Z
No,
that's
not
what's
happening.
My
one
question
and
what
is
just
eating
me
alive
is
why
are
we
the
only
county
in
north
carolina
that
is
doing
this
to
public
access?
None
of
the
other
counties
are
so
why?
If
it
was
true
that
we
don't
have
to
be
funded,
do
all
those
other
counties
just
like
public
access
that
much
if
they're
allowing
it
and
let's
not
talk
about
the
money
for
a
minute.
Let's
talk
about
the
people
because
we
were
touching
so
many
people,
so
many
shut-ins.
We
were
doing
such
a
service
as
volunteers.
Z
Z
I
don't
want
to
think
those
things
because
I
think
highly
of
all
of
you,
you
are
our
representatives.
There
can't
be
this
big
difference
between
all
of
us,
but
something
has
to
change
here.
I'm
I'd!
You
know
the
I'm
having
people
come
up
to
me
on
the
street
saying
to
me:
where
is
ur
tv
first,
it
was
free
speech
which
was
kind
of
interesting.
They
put
that
on
there
and
now
it's
blank
and
people
are
saying
why.
Z
How
did
this
happen?
And
I
still
can't
answer
that
because-
and
I
come
to
every
one
of
these
meetings
and
I'm
trying
so
hard,
but
I
still
can't
answer
that
question.
I
don't
think
that
we
have
communicated
during
this.
Even
when
we
had
the
public
forum
and
we
were
actually
I
mean
we
were
actually
on
the
agenda
you
weren't
here.
Unfortunately,
I
went
away
from
that,
not
knowing
anything.
Z
AA
A
Continue
with
public
comment,
we're
we
don't
have
public
access.
Apparently,
and
you
know
you
if
you
have
a
comment,
we're
glad
to
hear
from
mr
taylor.
AA
Okay,
because
it's
my
impression
that
you
got
money
for
that,
find
this
strange,
odd.
A
AA
Well,
okay
and
then
all
right,
then
you
know
you
reduced
our
funding,
90
percent,
so
because
of
that
it
had
to
go
down,
it
had
to
shut
down
and
you're.
You
know
you're,
given
that
money
to
support
the
peg
channel
you're,
given
the
money
to
support
the
pig
channel
you're
supposed
to
give
it
enough
to
keep
it
going.
AA
AA
AA
AA
I
have
no
problem
with
the
way
a
man
makes
a
living,
but
I'm
just
saying
the
whole
thing
was
slanted
and
we
conclusively
crushed
everything
that
he
said
on
that
other
thing,
and
I
think
you
have
copy
of
our
budget
to
where
you
see.
We
need
that
much
to
run
so
and
you
can
easily
afford
it
and
again
you
know.
Why
did
you
I'd
like
to
know?
Why
did
you
produce
at
90
percent
and
why
are
you
the
only
county
commissioners
in
the
state
doing
this
to
their
local
public
access
station?
AA
F
K
So
to
me
that
speaks
pretty
poorly
of
an
organization
called
the
government.
Now
the
other
thing,
I
brought
you
into
concern
about
mountain
mobility
and
asked
you
and
mr
chairman,
you
said
mr
miss
green.
Would
you
look
into
that
and
bring
that
back
to
us
next
meeting?
She
said
yes,
the
next
thing
I
scott
there
was
no
meeting
here.
It
was
a
public
release,
public
press
release
and
no
discussion
by
the
board
and
dumped
it
into
the
private
sector.
K
K
Let's
look
at
this
specific
issue
because
dropout
rate's,
going
to
go
back
up
social
service
is
going
to
even
look
worse
than
what
it
is
now
and
it's
bad
and
everything
that
we
can
think
about
is
going
to
even
be
worse.
If
we
do
not
get
a
handle
on
this
thing,
so
poverty
I
mean
this
sounds
awful.
Bad
does
not
just
sound
bad.
We've
got
evidence
by
professionals
that
told
you
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
P
A
Motion
and
second,
I
did
promise
this
lady.
I
would
give
her
a
response
and
I
want
to
do
that.
The
new
proposal
there's
not
a
format.
Madam
madam
clerk,
they're
we're
trying
to
figure
something
out.
I
think
the.
How
would
you
recommend
this
procedure?
A
Okay,
so
the
city
owns
the
equipment,
has
the
equipment
now
they're
they're,
really
in
control?
At
this
point,
they
they're
going
to
put
a
proposal
request
for
proposal
out
to
see
see
if
anybody
has
interest
in
working
some
way
and
that's
when
you
need
to
get
involved
and
say
yes,
I
would
like
this.
This
is
so
important.
I
want
to
continue
it.
Here's
here's
how
I
will
make
it
happen.
A
Yeah,
the
city
is
handling
that,
though,
because
they
have
the
adsense
lauren
bradley
would
be
the
one
with
the
city,
okay
and
last
thing
I
just
want
to
rep
the
the
why
on
buncombe
county
I
don't
know
how
many
people
have
public
access
we
we
have
give.
We
have,
we
have
complied,
what
we
understand
the
law
requires
and
we've
asked
if
you've
got
a
better
idea,
come
and
tell
us
about
it
or
have
you
got
another
way
to
keep
going?
A
Do
it
and
we've
had
contacts
well,
I've
had
many
discussions
with
you,
I'm
glad
to
have
more,
but
you
know
we've
we've
done,
we
can
do
someone
needs
to
step
forward,
and
maybe
you
can
do
something.
Maybe
you
can't,
but
it's
going
to
be
with
the
city
of
asheville
and
because
of
the
contracts
we're
going
to
be
involved
in
it,
but
the
city
of
asheville
owns
the
assets.
Now
they
have
taken
them,
they
have
them
and
that's
where
that's
what
you're
going
to
be
using?
If
anything
should
come
about.