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A
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
November
15
2011
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
to
order,
and
we
will
begin
with
Pledge
of
Allegiance
I'd.
Ask
you
to
join
me.
I
play
those
legions,
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God,
indivisible
unity
and
justice
for
all.
A
Thank
you
and
I
will
have
a
brief
for
me
invocation.
Colleagues,
let's
pray
God,
thank
you
for
our
families,
our
friends,
this
community,
this
beautiful
place
that
we
live,
help
us
to
appreciate
and
embrace
all
you've
given
us
in
such
abundance
bless
our
public
servants
and
staff
that
individuals
that
work
tirelessly
to
do
good
things
for
our
community
and
try
to
help
people
prosper
and
do
better
than
they
did
before.
A
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
serve
as
a
commissioner.
This
board
rejoices
in
the
opportunity
that
you've
given
us
and
give
us
wisdom
and
help
us
to
do
the
right
things.
That
would
please
you
and
please
our
community
in
a
positive
way,
but
this
Thanksgiving
season,
most
of
all,
help
us
to
be
grateful.
You
give
us
so
much
every
day,
I'm
in
a
minute,
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
it's
a
duty
of
every
board
member
to
avoid
both
actual
and
apparent
conflicts
of
interest.
B
B
A
Second,
second,
all
those
in
favor
of
fall
on
the
agenda
as
we
have
it
published
it
say:
aye
aye,
all
opposed.
No,
the
agenda
will
be
followed
by
unanimous
vote.
Good
news.
We
have
Melinda
Roberts
and
Kathy
how
instant
hauenstein
to
come.
Tell
us
about
the
local
food
market
and
we've
got
a
nice
hand
out
from
you.
Thank
you
for
that
and,
ladies
thanks
for
coming
to
talk
to
us
today
about
local
foods.
C
Today,
we're
pretty
excited
about
look
over
here
at
operative
extension
and
we'd
like
to
get
a
give
you
an
update
on
the
ten
percent
campaign,
it's
in
North
Carolina
and
it's
a
campaign
where
you're
recording
the
local
food
that
you're
using
and
buying.
So
since
it
began
in
July
2010.
It
was
a
partnership
with
the
Center
for
Environmental
farming
systems
and
Cooperative
Extension
and
was
funded
by
the
golden
leaf
fun
across
North
Carolina.
D
Gosh
I,
don't
remember
the
last
I
was
here
and
remember
what
month
it
was,
but
I
had
been
assigned
as
the
local
food
coordinator
for
Buncombe
County,
and
since
that
time
cathy
has
joined
me
in
that
movement
because
she
works
with
the
nutrition
programs
in
the
schools
in
Buncombe,
County
I'm.
So,
together
we're
trying
to
encourage
and
and
help
people
participate
in
the
ten
percent
campaign.
So
I
had
came
here
a
while
back
and
Holly
specifically
asked
me
to
come
back
with.
D
I
think
it
was
november
of
last
year
actually
asked
me
to
come
back
with
ways
in
which
you
as
individuals
as
well
as
an
organization
or
a
group
of
people,
could
commit
to
the
temper
send
campaign
and
by
and
locally
I'm
with
in
Buncombe
County.
One
thing
I
do
want
to
state
that,
with
this
particular
campaign
that
stuff's
has
created
as
well
as
cooperative
extension
when
we
say
local,
we
don't
just
mean
buncombe
county
about
ten
percent
that
you're
spending
could
engulf
anything
that
is
from
this
entire
state
of
North
Carolina.
D
You
could
do
a
pledge
of
purchase
which
this
information
is
in
detail.
On
the
back
of
your
hand
out.
If
you
do
a
pledge
of
purchase,
then
the
county
can
make
the
choices
within
the
ten
percent
campaign
in
mind
when
you're
having
foods
at
meetings
or
events,
and
you
don't
have
to
make
a
year-long
commitment
to
buy
ten
percent
of
your
food
all
year.
Long
as
the
commissioners
you
could
vow
to
at
your
commissioner's
meetings
are
at
your
company
retreats
to
the
food.
D
That's
at
those
events
could
just
be
ten
percent
local
and
that's
the
way
that
you
can
commit
to
the
campaign
and
those
dollars
be
recorded.
You
can
pledge
the
purchase
of
ten
percent
of
all
foods
for
your
meetings.
Like
I
just
stated,
I'm
you
could
pledge
to
purchase
ten
percent
of
specific
food
from
North
Carolina
sources
such
as
ten
percent
of
produce
for
meetings
or
events.
D
You
can
pledge
to
use
caterers
who
designate
that
they
use
local
or
NC
foods,
and
your
businesses
and
I'm
not
really
supposed
to
acknowledge
specific
restaurants
in
our
area
that
do
that,
but
I
think
you
all
are
over
we're
the
ones
that
do
and
they
advertise
the
fact
that
they
support
local
farmers.
You
can
also
support
individual
departments
if
they
choose
to
purchase
food
from
local
or
MC
sources
like
the
Cooperative
Extension.
We
have
quarterly
advisory
committee
meetings,
and
so
we've
pledged
as
an
organization
to
do
ten
percent
of
our
food.
D
D
Holly
wanted
to
know
specifics
on
how
we
could
fulfill
that
commitment
as
individuals
and
it's
during
the
winter
months
specifically,
and
we
gave
you
resources
to
help
you
do
that.
One
thing
that
they
do
take
into
consideration
is
that
you
can
incorporate
value-added
products
into
that
commitment.
You
could
do
honey,
eggs,
local
meat,
there's
tons
of
resources
around
here
for
people
on
an
individual
level,
as
well
as
organizations
to
fulfill
the
commitment
of
find
ten
percent
mm-hmm.
B
C
Often
in
my
programming
I
do
get
people
asking:
how
can
I
do
this
individually,
and
so,
when
I
have
a
cooking
class
I'll
highlight
which
of
those
foods
have
been
available
locally?
So
one
of
the
things
that
you
can
do,
especially
through
the
winter
months,
we
do
have
one
local
resource,
which
is
winter
Sun
farms.
It
is
a
CSA,
that's
a
winter
si
si,
and
so
that's
through
the
Blue
Ridge
food
ventures.
You
can
also
choose
to
do
those
products
which
are
available
now
so
Melinda
did
mention.
We
have
meets.
C
We
have
honey
or
winter
vegetables
on
the
Western,
North
Carolina
regional
farmers
market
on
rivard
road.
Often
you
will
find
and
highlight
their
as
well
as
a
local
farmers
grow
of
retail
or
down
wholesale
down
at
the
bottom.
So
you
can
look
for
that.
Asap
has
a
great
local
guide.
That
also
gives
you
so
types
of
items
to
choose
from
and
then,
if
you
do
need
it
on
the
packet
that
we
provided
for
you,
we
have
that
information
in
our
office.
C
So
if
you
come
across
someone
through
your
work,
you
can
always
refer
them
to
us.
For
some
of
those
suggestions
and
then
again
one
of
the
other
ideas
during
the
Christmas
time,
if
you're
going
and
cutting
down
your
own
Christmas
tree
or
choosing
to
do
visit
one
of
the
farms
for
that,
you
can
always
keep
your
eye
out
for
local
other
local
products
that
they
may
have,
because
many
of
our
farmers
and
their
agritourism
ventures
are
producing
more
products
other
than
just
the
trees
or
what
we're
used
to
seeing
and
then
through
the
campaign.
C
B
C
Oh,
this
is
downtown
Asheville
at
94,
Cox
avenue
and
you're
welcome
to
call
us
our
phone
numbers,
8282
5555
22,
and
you
can
reach
us
there.
Also.
We
are
on
the
website
in
it.
I
have
it
right
here.
It's
buncombe
that
CES
that
ncsu.edu,
and
so
we
can
pass
this
along
and
have
it
on
the
county
website
as
well,
and
I.
B
Might
say
one
of
the
good
local
food
these
some,
these
folks
are
heavily
involved
in.
What's
called
the
AG
breakfast
or
the
farmers
breakfast
once
a
quarter
and
everything-
and
this
is
at
the
Virginia
Boone
building
at
the
AG
center
and
all
the
food
there
is
locally
grown
and
I'm
telling
you
you
walk
in,
but
you
roll
out.
It
is
wonderful,
it's
wonderful
and
I
think
they
go
about
four
thirty
in
the
morning
to
start
cooking
and
it's
just
great
all
I
think
I
get
my
ten
percent.
That.
D
D
A
C
A
Think
it's
good
to
look
at
the
proclamation
and
formalizing.
I
know
that
I
know
the
sheriff
and
all
the
schools
try
to
do
that,
but
but
we
probably
want
to
formalize
it,
and
you
know
it's
hard
to
hit
the
goal.
If
you
don't
know
what
the
target
is,
so
I
think
that's
great
one
other
thing
you
you've,
given
us
a
list
of
the
annual
fruit
I
know
I
noticed
my
son
had
this
on
his
refrigerator
and
they
really
do
refer
to
this
is:
is
this
available
in
a
magnetic
version
or
a
I?
A
C
C
C
E
C
E
Yeah
I
really
wanted
to
thank
you
for
coming
a
year
ago,
because
it
really
did
impact
me
and
change
my
behavior.
I
got
my
first
little
csa
this
year
and
this
these
are
great
materials.
I
mean.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
also
highlight
is
just
how
entrepreneurial
our
community
is
in
this
particular
movement
is
I,
mean
I've
got
my
chris
christmas
ideas.
Now
I
mean
this
is
this
is
fantastic?
E
How
that
can
because
any
way
we
can
invest
our
dollars
locally
for
gifts
and,
what's
better
than
something
that
you
can
consume
and
I
and
I
did
want
to
just
echo
the
idea
that
we
continue
to
work.
We
know
Walt
this
talk
here
and
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
like
fancy,
meals
together,
but
I
know
we
probably
will
have
a
retreat
in
January
and
be
great
to
have
that
when
there's
little
tempt,
you
know
kind
of
do
some
effort
for
the
local
ten
percent
and
have
a
little
plaque
out
so
yeah.
There.
A
D
For
that
matter
they
create
a
opportunity
for
individuals
to
buy
into
their
farm
and
they
pay
upfront
for
vegetables
that
they're
going
to
receive
throughout
a
certain
year
or
a
certain
timeframe
throughout
the
year,
so
they're
paying
for
their
food
in
advance
and
it's
a
risk
on
the
person
that's
paying
for
it,
because
sometimes
there
we
do
have
crop
failure,
but
there's
usually
things
in
abundance
that
you
will
get.
Instead,
if
one
crop
fails,
another
will
usually
flourish,
but
it's
really
beneficial
for
the
farmers
because
they
get
the
money
up
front.
D
So
it
allows
them
to
be
had
the
money
to
purchase
seeds
and
amendments
and
fertilizers
and
pay
help
in
advance,
and
then
they
deliver
or
set
up
pick
up
sites
for
the
person.
That's
purchased
the
CSA
box
to
once
a
week
you
get
this
beautiful
I
mean
abundance
of
vegetables
that,
and
they
always
most
of
the
farmers
that
I
work
with
offer
recipes
and
cooking
ideas
for
the
vegetables
that
you
get,
especially
if
they're
out
of
the
norm
so
and
those
those
usually
are
being
sold
at
the
beginning
of
the
year.
A
D
They're
starting
to
be
brokers
and
people
that
will
combine
multi
farms,
so
you
get
a
more
diverse
CSA
box
where
you
can
get
meats
and
eggs
and
breads
and
vegetables
there's
several
areas
that
are
several
folks
that
are
starting
to
do
that
as
well.
But
the
going
directly
to
the
farmer
is
very
beneficial
to
them
and
then
impacts
them
in
a
very
positive
way
and
I.
D
Is
food
ventures?
Does
the
winter
Sun
farms
and
may
contract
growers
local
growers,
mainly
in
Buncombe
County,
to
grow
those
vegetables
for
them
and
they
deliver
them?
The
blue
red
food
ventures
in
them
because
of
the
facility
that
they
have
it's
a
commercialized
kitchen.
They
process
the
food
on
site
and
they
freeze
it
and
store
it
for
the
winter
and
then
they
put
it
in
the
winter
Sun
farm
CSI
for
people
they.
D
D
A
Policy
is
always
to
get
local
I
know
that
any
time
we
have
things
Kathy
and
and
everybody
who
buys
we
look
local
first
and
we'll
we'd
love
to
see
the
proclamation
anything
we
can
do
to
publicize
what
you're
doing
it's
a
priority
of
this
board,
to
encourage
farming
and
to
preserve
farmland
and
to
make
sure
that
farmers
make
money,
and
this
is
good
for
everybody,
so
win-win.
First
off.
D
H
A
I
B
F
There's
a
sex
and
the
spinning
spider
milking
goat
farm
in
Madison
County,
its
intersection
of
your
beautiful
County,
it's
kind
of
like
an
exotic
plate,
but
I
can't
think
the
name
of
it.
So
it's
cold.
I
want
to
say
something
like
Paris
or
something.
No,
no,
it's
got
a
the
community
and
it's
it's.
Nine
I
had
to
follow
UPS
truck
to
find
this
place,
but
the
name
of
the
community
is
a
is
a.
F
A
F
F
One
case
jury
system
still
in
use
in
Buncombe
County
in
other
districts.
To
this
date,
judge
Harry
Martin
was
appointed
by
governor
jane
bahut
jr.
as
an
associate
justit
to
the
Supreme
Court
in
North
Carolina
in
1980
22.
He
served
there
until
he
retired
in
1992,
just
as
heresy.
Martin
returned
to
private
practice
until
becoming
the
chief
circuit
mediator
for
the
United
States
Court
of
Appeals
for
the
Fourth
Circuit
from
nineteen
ninety-four
to
1999,
during
which
time
he
designed
and
implemented
the
appellate
mediation
program
for
the
Fourth
Circuit.
F
You
don't
let
P
the
things
long,
but
he
was
great
did
a
lot
of
things.
Whereas
judge
heresy,
Martin
became
the
chief
justice
of
the
Cherokee
Supreme
Court
of
the
Eastern
Band
of
Cherokee
Indians
in
two
thousand
supervisor:
creation
of
the
new
tribal
court
system
on
the
Koala
indian
boundary
in
western
north
carolina
and
establish
the
cherokee
court
as
a
leader
among
the
indian
nations,
when
he
retired
in
2006.
F
He
was
made
an
honorary
member
of
the
Eastern
Band
of
Cherokee
Indian,
whereas
through
his
extensive
career,
just
as
Harry
Martin
has
brought
honor
to
this
county
has
improved
every
area
of
the
justice
system
that
he
has
power.
Ously
served
and
deserves.
Have
the
I
26
bridged
over
long
show
road
named
in
his
honor
as
it
was
on
he
traveled
many
many
times
during
his
work
across
the
state
now
for
biet
resolved
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
buncombe.
F
That's
followed
and
I
hit
it
too
hard
come
back
here
that
this
board
hereby
requested
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation
to
dedicate
the
bridge
on
interstate
26
that
crosses
north
on
highway
1
46
known
as
long
showed
road
as
a
justice
has
eve,
Martin
bridge
that
this
resolution
be
approved
upon
us
adoption.
Mr.
Chairman
I
move
approval
of
this
resolution.
Second.
B
A
G
A
J
F
E
D
J
Report
for
2010
the
the
emission
scope
here.
What
we
use
to
put
this
report
together,
the
consumption
of
our
electrical
energy,
our
heating
fuel
motor
fuels,
our
water
consumption
and
our
employee
commute
and
the
emissions
is
what
the
byproduct
is
of
us
doing
business.
What
we
leave
behind
to
start
out
with
some
with
some
good
news.
How
do
we
compare
across
the
nation
and
locally?
J
The
national
average
is
ninety
thousand
five
hundred
BTUs
per
square
foot,
for
you
know
and
you're
averaging
an
office
space
gymnasiums
everything
when
you
do
that,
so
a
national
average
at
ninety
thousand
five
hundred
University
of
Wisconsin
did
a
study
and
they're
admitting
50
pounds
of
P
co2
per
square
foot
in
their
facilities.
Buncombe
County
currently
is
at
64,000
1862
BTUs
per
square
foot,
so
we're
twenty
five
thousand
less
per
square
foot
than
the
national
average
we're
at
thirty
eight
pounds
of
e
co2
per
square
foot.
J
So
we
aren't
we're
at
a
twenty
percent
reduction
from
our
2005
baseline
figures
on
the
carbon
emissions,
total
of
twenty-six
thousand
ninety
six
metric
tons
of
each
co2
that
we
admitted
in
2010
and
the
e
co
2
part
when
we,
when
we
came
to
you
before
we
used
to
have
a
list
of
gases
that
we
gave
you
we
have.
You
know
we
had
carbon
dioxide
methane,
nitrous
oxide.
Well,
thankfully,
somebody
come
up
with
an
equivalent
co2.
So
it's
all
rolled
into
one
number.
Now:
buildings
accounts
for
sixty
percent
of
that
employee
commute
eighteen
percent.
J
Our
carbon
emissions
trend-
you
can
look
back
over
the
years
and
you
see
that
the
blue
line
always
climbs
well
any
time
we
add
a
facility,
the
line
climbs
any
time
we
complete
an
energy
efficiency
project,
the
Lionel
dip
or
if
we
sell
a
facility.
So
the
construction
and
occupied
space
like
we're
doing
right
now,
you'll
see
a
rise
in
the
line
and
it'll
settle
out
because
two
things
are
going
on
at
one
time
where
you
normally
just
have
one
function.
J
Total
energy
consumption
for
2010
is
170
6.4
billion
BTUs,
that's
a
big
number,
but
we're
still
well
below
the
national
average.
When
you
look
at
the
number
of
square
feet
so
that
we
have
and
I
always
say
this
because
but
I
know
he's
never
assuming
everybody
knows
we're
talking
about.
Btw
uses
british
thermal
unit,
it's
a
value.
It's
it's
the
way
we
value
a
product.
You
know
gasoline
has
so
many
BTUs
in
it
propane
like
that.
So
it's
all.
It's
all
converted
to
a
usable
number.
J
Energy
usage
factor
what
what's
the
factor
that
drives
this
blue
line
up,
so
in
2006
we
had
1.1
million
square
feet
and
in
2010
we're
currently
at
1.5
million
square
feet
of
building
space.
The
200
College
Street
building
was
fifty-four
thousand
feet.
The
detention
center
addition,
the
college
street
parking
deck
all
those
things
anytime
that
we
have
to
add
space
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
citizens.
The
blue
line
is
going
to
climb
our
employee
commute.
J
92.6
percent
of
our
county
employees
do
drive
to
work
with
an
average
round-trip
of
27
miles,
so
we
love
almost
11
million
miles
on
county
employees
back
and
forth
to
work
last
year,
and
that
makes
up
eighteen
percent
of
our
annual
carbon
footprint,
which
is
equivalent
to
4800
megatons
vco,
two
more
metric
tons,
I'm,
sorry
buildings.
We,
like
I,
said
we
currently
have
over
a
million
hype
square
feet
controlled
by
Buncombe
County,
which
is
ninety
nine
point:
seven
billion
BTUs
of
energy
in
2010
buildings
responsible
for
sixty
percent
or
15,000
853
metric
tons
of
eco2.
J
Energy
intensity-
and
this
is
where
we
start
getting
into
the
good
news
again-
and
this
is
a
new
buzzword
that
is
going
around
in
green
circles.
The
intensity
is
the
intense
intense
is
existing
on
extreme
degree,
so
they
measure
intensity
of
buildings.
That
way
our
blue
line
is
headed
down
now,
so
we
know
we're
going
in
a
good
direction.
J
J
J
This
is
a
new
slide
from
the
last
time,
and
so
I
have
to
sing
it
up
there
yet,
but
your
your
red
line
is
the
square
footage
of
a
building.
So,
on
the
left
hand,
side
we
show
the
parking
deck,
which
has
got
260
1,000
square
feet
and
the
blue
line
is
the
BTUs
per
square
foot.
So
you
can
see
how
little
energy
that
that
building
uses
the
detention
center
right
beside
it.
The
blue
line
still
doesn't
pass
the
red
line.
So
you
know
the
the
square.
Footage
is
up
there.
J
It's
in
a
normal
range,
the
library,
our
BTUs
per
square
foot,
is
now
past.
Our
square
footage
line,
the
library
is
kind
of
an
intense
building.
You've
got
a
lot
of
lighting
in
a
library.
You've
got
a
lot
of
HVAC.
You've
got,
you've
got
a
creative
environment
that
encourages
people
to
read,
and
it's
got
to
be
well
lit.
E
J
Most
energy-intensive
Elding
is
animal
shelter.
You
can
see
how
far
that
blue
line
is
projected
pace
to
read.
We've
got
a
lot
of
stringent
guidelines
on
our
exchange
for
animals
that
are
that
are
kept
contains
temperatures
we
have
to
keep
them
at,
so
it's
an
expensive
building
to
operate,
but
you
take
all
those
together
and
all
the
rest
of
our
buildings
and
we
still
come
out
of
the
dollar
nine
cents
per
square
foot.
E
J
Again,
we've
got
the
just
another
slide
for
comparison
here.
This
is
the
cost
per
square
foot
and
your
red
line
is
still
your
square
footage
line.
Parking
deck
is
ten
cents,
a
square
foot
all
the
way
up
to
two
dollars
and
seventy
three
sensors
square
foot
on
your
animal
shelter.
So
it's
just
you
know
it's
a
huge
difference.
It's
it's
all
about
whatever
you're
building
your
doing.
J
This
goes
back
and
takes
in
the
county
as
a
whole.
The
blue
line
is
a
baseline
from
2005.
Our
actual
BTUs
in
2005
I'll
carry
all
the
way
across.
So
you
can
see
that
steady
decrease
that
stair
step
down
that
red
line.
So
it's
never
going
to
go
away,
but
as
long
as
it
keeps
stepping
down
we're
doing
things
right.
E
J
A
missions-
and
this
is
a
this-
goes
back
to
a
usage
per
square
foot.
So
we're
going
to
see
the
blue
line
go
back
up
again.
We
used
15,000
853
metric
tons,
or
that
was
our
missions
in
2010.
We've
still
been
on
a
downward
trend
and
even
though
we've
added
over
400,000
square
feet
of
space,
that
number
should
have
risen
by
seven
thousand
metric
tons
of
eco2,
but
it's
only
risen
by
1700
pounds.
J
So
there
again,
you
see
it
more
in
the
cost
it's
cheaper,
but
we're
also
keeping
those
at
East
co2
emissions
down
as
well
water
consumption-
something
we've
not
had
up
here
before
that
was
asked
for.
In
2010,
we
consumed
33
million
nine
hundred
thousand
gallons
of
water
in
buncombe
county
contributors
to
this
you're,
seeing
it
rising
on
them.
When
we
add
facilities,
the
water
usage
goes
up.
If
we
have,
we
had
to
leak
at
a
pool
I
for
a
while
that
ran
underground,
and
it
just
took
us
forever
to
find
it.
J
J
Fleet
size,
as
you
can
see,
the
reason
this
is
in
here
is
just
to
show
how
that
we've
not
grown
that
big
since
2006
some
departments
we've
added
to,
but
when
we
found
ways
to
combine
services
and
other
departments,
that's
a
lower
de
fleet
size.
So
it's
really
kind
of
stayed
in
there.
You
know
within
six
vehicles
it's
pretty
good
number
for
the
kind
of
growth
that
we've
had
in
other
places,
number
of
vehicles
by
Department,
Sheriff's,
Department,
Emergency,
Management
and
mountain
mobility
are
our
biggest
users
of
the
fleet.
G
J
J
J
Alternative
fuel
use,
the
blue
line
is
biodiesel
and
I
showed
you
how
our
diesel
use
was
increasing
the
newer
vehicles
with
the
new
federal
mandates
on
emissions
and
just
as
computerized
as
his
engines
are
nowadays
they're
not
running
on
biodiesel
like
we
used
to
be
able
to
you
know,
and
it
was
when
it
was
a
78
model,
ford
tractor
that
hauled
the
trash
to
the
landfill.
It
was
different,
but
these
new
trucks
we're
finding.
J
We
have
to
run
that
ultra-low
sulfur
diesel
in
them
which,
or
we
spend
more
money
on
maintenance
than
we
do
you
thing
else.
The
thing
about
this,
where
I
want
to
bring
out
is
the
little
green
dot.
At
the
end,
we
help
see
that
one
growth-
that's
our
propane
vehicle-
that
we're
starting
to
pick
up
so
we're
we're
wanting
to
increase
that
as
the
others
we're
hoping
to
see
them
fall
back.
J
Is
gasoline
temperature
in
ethanol
gasoline
that
can
I?
So
that's
what
we're
running
on
everything
now
pretty
much
and
on
the
fleet
fuel
mileage.
When
I
was
here
last
I
I
gave
an
explanation
which
still
stands
but
I
think
I've
figured
out
something
I'll
see
on
this.
We've
seen
a
drop
in
our
mileage.
This
one.
J
We
would
want
to
see
going
up
we're
at
13.1
miles
per
gallon
13.7,
but
the
propane
vehicles
and
they're
not
going
to
make
up
this
whole
number
propane
has
a
has
les
BTU
content
and
gasoline,
which
means
we're
not
going
to
get
as
many
miles
per
gallon.
Although
it's
a
much
cheaper
fuel
and
it's
better
on
the
environment,
we're
going
to
see
our
fuel
mileage
drop
by
gallon,
even
though
we're
actually
got
a
better
deal
because
it's
cheaper
fuel
and
the
emissions
or
less
the
other
variable
on
this,
don't
think
I
can
figure
out.
J
J
Off-Road
use,
which
is
landfill,
fuels
there
again.
Biofuel
is
becoming
non-existent.
Gasoline
and
diesel
are
rising,
and
it's
simply
because
we
just
we've
not
found
you
can
out.
You
can
burn
biofuel,
but
by
time
you
buy
the
additives
to
burn
it
to
make
it
clean
enough
to
burn
you
kind
of
defeated
the
purpose
of
burning
the
biofuel
and
it
just
becomes
expensive
for
us
to
do
that.
J
Missions
reduction
projects
I
was
asked
to
look
at
past
projects
and
see
if
I
could
come
up
with
some
percentages
on
them
and
do
to
our
utility
bills.
Now,
we've
seen
a
sixteen
point:
five
percent
reduction
at
the
court
since
we
added
the
new
windows
that
translates
to
a
thirty-two
thousand
dollar
annual
cost
avoidance
at
the
courthouse,
35
woodfin,
twelve
percent
and
a
forty-two
thousand
dollar
cost
avoidance.
J
The
reason
35
would
then
you
would
think
that
you
know
smaller
building
less
money,
but
that
thing
was
built
when
energy
was
cheap
and
a
bit
insulation
in
that
building
and
the
windows
were
single
pains,
you
know-
and
it
just
wasn't
nothing
right
about
it.
So
we're
looking
for
a
better,
much
better
return
on
that
building.
J
We
did
an
HVAC
renovation
at
the
outport
building
and
we're
already
seeing
eighteen
percent
back
on
it
just
by
purchasing
and
using
it
and
HVAC.
I'll
port
was
done
from
an
ECC
BG
Block
Grant,
so
so
we're
getting
some
of
that
energy
efficient
equipment
on
board.
With
that
future
projects,
which
really
should
say
current
projects
now
40
Cox
were
almost
two-thirds
of
the
way
through
that
total
renovation
of
that
building.
We
have
a
solar
thermal
installation
there
and
also
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
at
that
facility.
J
Alternative
fuel
vehicles
just
recently
got
to
paperwork
back
on
the
grant
we
had
asked
for
15
vehicles
we
receive
ten,
so
we'll
be
doing
ten
of
the
crown
vics
for
the
sheriff
and
converting
them
to
propane
fuel
and
our
projected
annual
cost
savings
for
that
project.
For
the
propane
vehicles
is
25
to
35
thousand
dollars
and,
of
course,
the
new
Courts
Building,
which
will
be
a
LEED
certified
building.
J
So,
back
to
the
first
slide,
shall
we
compare
nine?
Ninety
thousand
five
hundred
BTUs
is
a
square
foot
average
and
we're
at
64,000
BTUs
per
square
foot.
The
second
number
and
I
always
want
to
be
upfront
about
this.
So
if
anybody
stops
you
on
the
street,
if
you
took
the
parking
deck
out
of
there,
you
know
how
I
showed
you,
the
parking
deck
had
a
huge
square
footage
to
it,
but
very
little
energy
usage.
J
J
How
do
we
fund
efficiency?
We
found
it
through
capital
project
budgets.
We
fund
some
projects
through
my
department.
If
we
can
look
from
the
first
year,
the
end
of
year
see
a
payback
I'll
spend
the
money
directly
on
my
departmental
budget
and
do
it
that
way:
energy
savings,
reinvestment
fund.
We
get
a
lot
of
utility
rebate,
money
on
that
we
go
after
that
stuff,
anytime
and
that's
part
of
the.
J
What
we
figure
in,
if
I,
can
do
it
out
of
my
department
if
I
can
change
all
these
lights
in
this
room
and
I
get
a
progress,
energy
rebate,
+
the
utility
cost,
goes
down
and
it
replaced
for
itself
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
I
can
do
it
within
my
own
budget
number
recouping
that
money
all
the
time
I'm
doing.
The
other
thing
we
do
is
we
take
75
percent
of
all
avoided
utility
costs
that
are
in
this
energy
savings
or
investment
fund.
We
put
it
back
into
the
fund
to
fund
future
projects.
J
J
One
thing:
that's
really
seen
to
pay
off
as
we
analyze
purchases
based
on
the
total
life
cycle
of
the
equipment,
not
just
on
the
purchase
price
and
the
design
of
future
buildings
as
efficiently
as
possible,
with
the
new
courts,
building
being
one
of
them
and
the
grants
to
leveraging
all
the
grants,
deficiency
programs
and
right
now,
finance
is
helping
me
on
all
that,
with
my
grants
and
and
collecting
my
data
for
me.
So
I
very
much
appreciate
that.
So
that
was
that
was
even
a
more
hurried
presentation
in
last
time,
but
everybody
singing
I.
B
A
J
Is
when
we,
when
we
redo
the
roof,
that
is
one
of
the
options
that
we
have,
the
the
best
place
on
the
jail
is
on
the
high
roof.
Now
the
problem
is
looking
at
the
cost
of
that
we've
got
to
pass
through
all
those
occupied
dorms
to
get
to
the
bottom
of
that
thing.
To
make
this
work
cause
the
Sun
we
needs
on
top
the
boilers
we
want
to
add
on
the
bottom.
J
E
J
E
E
You
know
kind
of
people
that
think
about
this
stuff
in
our
crew.
That's
the
BTU
average.
So
two
quick
things
one
is,
and
we
had
a
little
tour
at
the
animal
shelter.
I.
Think
I
asked
some
of
this,
but
I've
already
forgotten
the
answers,
but
are
their
possibilities
come
true?
I'm
assuming
part
of
that
is
hot
water
that
needs
out
there.
Is
there
a
the
ability
in
the
future
for
some
solar
thermal?
Oh
just.
J
Add
out
there,
but
I'd
be
very
willing
to
looked
at
the
animal
shelter
just
like
the
jail
in
the
kitchen.
You've
got
to
you've
got
to
supply
a
certain
degree
of
water
to
them,
for
it
to
be
legal,
to
wash
the
food
bowls
to
wash
down
pits,
and
things
like
that,
while
we
couldn't
provide
all
that
was
solar,
we
probably
could
pick
up
some
of
the
heat
recover.
Some
of
the
heat
through
a
solar
project.
E
Yeah
yeah
that
might
be
worth
looking
at,
given
how
that
so
big
so
I
think
some
some
great
new
technology
out
there
think
that'd
be
great
and
no.
The
other
thing
is
to
I
think
this
is
such
a
harder
nut
to
crack.
But
I'd
be
curious
if
there's
been
some
kind
of
brainstorming,
because
it's
definitely
a
long-term
thinking
thing
is
that
you
know
obviously
employee
mileage
is.
This
is
hard
to.
D
J
J
To
people
about
about
carpooling
and
commuting-
and
people
do
so
much
stuff
thing
we
always
found
out
was,
if
I
could
get
to
my
car
at
lunch,
I'd
be
very
happy
to
park
it.
Where
ever
you
wanted
it
or
to
try
to
share
a
ride,
but
so
many
people
do
so
much
of
their
daily
business.
During
her
lunch
hour,
it's.
E
C
A
G
B
A
A
A
The
announcements
are,
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
board
will
be
held
december.
Six
2011
beginning
at
four-thirty.
County
offices
will
be
closed.
November
24
and
25
for
Thanksgiving
Commissioner
meetings
can
be
seen
on
CCTV
charter
cable
channel
to
ATT
uverse
channel
99
live
on
buncombe
county
org
during
the
meetings
or
online
anytime
at
buncombe
county
org.
K
A
Today,
thank
you.
Okay,
the
official
business
of
the
county
is
concluded
and
we
will
now
hold
public
comment.
The
time
limit
for
any
comment
before
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
may
leave
any
questions
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
any
matters
during
public
comment,
since
it
is
by
definition,
the
public
commenting
to
us
comments
should
be
limited
to
subjects
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
our
commission
or
pertinent
to
any
matters
which
it
may
act
upon.
A
Any
individuals,
speaking
during
public
comment
shall
address
the
entire
board.
Any
polling
of
board
members
is
inappropriate
and
will
not
be
permitted.
Persons
addressing
the
board
are
expected
to
observe
the
decorum
of
the
chamber
and
be
respectful
of
everyone
in
the
room.
Any
person
who
willfully
interrupts
disturbs
or
disrupts
the
sash
will
be
asked
to
leave
the
meeting
and
our
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
addresses
on
a
subject
that
we've
already
covered,
or
it's
been
previously
presented
to
the
board.
A
K
10
minutes,
thank
you
very
much
clocks.
Working
too
first
thing
is
mr.
Stanley,
mr.
rice,
I'm
glad
to
say
you're
going
with
no
shave
november.
It
I
look
a
little
scruffy,
but
this
is
national,
prostate,
mint
and
people.
The
gentlemen
are
supposed
to
be
growing
mustaches
well,
I
had
one
of
them,
so
I
decided
to
grow
this
after
that.
I
have
presented
mr.
again
attorney
with
some
paperwork
that
I
would
like
to
have
brought
forward,
but
this
referendum
on
a
BTEC
which
is
over
basically
one.
K
K
K
Don't
call
it
a
great
win
because
there's
a
lot
of
money
spent
I
called
the
other
day
and
asked
a
question
to
the
attorney
about
100
maple
building
I
have
information
and
a
folder
that
was
to
students
through
their
student,
a
student
account
to
come
and
work
at
the
maple,
build
and
compare
our
sands
common
canvas
come
and
make
phone
calls,
but
for
new
bruns
that
baby
tech
for
students.
How
come
we're
not
using
that
one?
The
answer
I
got
was
well
that
room
was
least
advantaged
West.
K
Well
I
got
to
hold
advantage
West
people,
they
said
no,
they
leased
property
over
an
a
B,
a
B
Tech
at
Anka,
so
I
couldn't
get
an
answer
and
I
was
asked
to
bring
paperwork
in
to
ask
for
it,
which
is
the
general
statute,
131
actuant,
so
I
have
these
questions.
I
would
like
to
have
answered
referendums.
Mr.
Gant,
we
went
through
that
own
district
elections
and
I
asked
one
one
thing:
Miss
Jones
was
there
please
let
us
have
a
referendum
and
ask
mr.
K
K
This
should
bet
it
was
put
in
a
county
election.
Mr.
Don
was
good
enough
to
talk
to
me.
I
asked
why
we
didn't
have
any
early
voting
places.
You
know
at
least
four
in
the
county,
because
I
went
looked
at
all
the
manage.
I
know
that
my
district
or,
where
I
vote,
that
they
was
three
people
voted
early.
What
two
of
those
wouldn't
ones?
Man,
ones
my
wife,
but
if
we'd
use
fire
be
fired
or
Fairview
library
you
something
toward
black
mountain
and
Lisa
stir
those
people
all
the
way
out
there.
K
They
was
absolutely
zero
people
early
voted
in
Leicester
zero.
A
lot
of
people
didn't
know
about
it.
I
still
got
people,
my
neighborhood,
so
I
thought
is
a
city
election,
so
they
didn't
vote.
I
had
one
guy
say
well
well,
I
looked
at
the
ballot,
but
I
couldn't
vote
for
them,
people,
so
I
didn't
vote
and
I
said
you
know
you
saw
the
wrong
ballot.
He
did
Justin
furnace
work
for
me.
So
in
the
whole
thing
they
did
a
good
job.
K
These
people
did
a
very
good
job,
putting
it
out
and
they
spent
a
whole
lot
of
money.
But
I
don't
know
if
it's
legal
for
a
BTEC
the
personnel
to
give
an
outsider,
all
the
students
email
addresses
and
there
was
a
person
working
for
the
outside
source
jobs,
solutions
for
jobs
that
was
emailing
from
a
gmail
address
his
name
to
all
the
a
B
Tech
students
addresses.
K
So
that
is
pushing
the
issue
a
little
bit
far.
You
know
when
you
take
the
students,
you
know
I
live
in
the
county
and
was
a
very
few
people
in
the
county,
a
few
Democrats,
a
couple
of
other
people.
This
is
like
four
out
of
seven
cards:
I
never
received
I.
Never
you
know
I,
don't
know
of
any
person
in
my
party
in
Buncombe
County
that
got
a
robocall
or
court.
Now
the
there's
people
in
this
room
that
are
from
the
other
party
that
these
came
from
that
got
robo
calls
from
you
for
sure.
K
K
That
is
a
press
release
that
was
paid
for
by
a
BTech
and
I
spoke
once
before
and
asked
dr.
day,
and
he
could
verify
this.
This
card
saying
vote
for
a
BTech
was
handed
to
all
the
students
and
all
the
classes.
That
is
not.
You
know
you
can
call
things
teaching,
but
that's
not
what
I
call
teach
you
that
is
Kailen
people.
This
is
what
you
need
to
do
and
then
take
a
home
to
your
parents
and
tell
them
to
vote
for
it.
You
know
so
in
this
election.
K
If
you
look
at
it
early
voting
won
it
by
a
very
small
version
and
many
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
versus
what
the
gentleman
that
put
stop
forward
about
three
thousand
dollars.
I
would
just
like
to
know
how
you
know
all
the
information
you
have
it.
I
just
gave
it
to
you,
sir.
You,
sir,
in
your
name,
there's
a
couple
of
questions
and
I
need
to
ask.
I.
K
Probably
I
won't
go
there,
but
it's
part
of
the
foundation
and
I'll
probably
have
to
put
that
and
written
for
him
too,
but
until
I
mean
a
lot
of
people
in
Buncombe,
County
meant.
We
don't
want
to
call
this
a
tech.
We
want
to
call
the
day
b.tech,
it's
called
asheville
pumpkin
technical
institution
and
the
way
this
was
done.
K
It's
a
tech
and
David
I
understand
you
were
happy
there
than
that,
because
this
one
I've
seen
the
picture,
but
for
a
person
that
don't
like
referendums,
you
know
at
all
thats
that
that-
just
bothered
me
and
we
are
friends
I
hope,
but
my
wife
don't
agree
with
me
and
I'm
sure
a
bunch
of
IANS
if
their
dough
but
the
people
here
from
a
BTEC.
I
appreciate
what
they
do.
I
appreciate
them:
teaching
our
students
but
I've
never
seen
a
building
teach
kids.
K
The
building
and
I
went
to
school
in
Morristown
Tennessee
your
grade
school
and
I
left
it
in
1958,
when
my
dad
dad
still
being
used
today
is
called
hillcrest
elementary
school
lowell,
high
school
still
being
utilized
and
more,
they
do
have
other
schools,
but
these
schools
are
still
being
utilized.
We
have
a
B
Tech
campus
and
I'll
a
BTEC
campus
patinka
campus
for
a
BTech.
K
You
know
saw
a
bunch
of
highway
patrol
cars
out
there
today
they
must
be
doing
some
kind
of
class
for
them,
but
do
we
need
a
hundred
and
thirty
million
dollars
and
tell
our
people
people?
This
is
for
17
years.
You
have
your
baby
today
and
they're
still
going
to
be
paying
for
it
when
they're
17
years
old
and
able
to
go
to
a
BTech
I
understand
they
want
things.
I
understand
lot
of
these
people
sitting
in
this
room,
took
time
off
and
work.
The
polls,
dr.
K
Dutton
utilizes,
our
services,
our
vehicles
and
everything
to
go
out
to
promote
this.
It
was
an
election.
The
supposedly
was
referendum.
There's
people
that
I've
heard
for
Alex
cool
that
were
part
of
different
things
that
do
not
like
what
happened
here.
I
know
dr.
Dunn,
and
then
they
like
what
happened,
but
this
should
be
put
on
hold
until
the
people
of
buncombe
county
can
speak.
K
175,000
people
in
Buncombe,
County,
33
thousand
votes,
I've
asked
portable
I've
spoke
to
the
board.
I
spoke
to
the
State
Board
of
Elections
I.
Just
hopped
spoke
to
the
attorney
at
the
State
Board
of
Elections.
He
says
I
have
to
come
to
y'all
and
I
have
mr.
fruit
I'm.
Here
I
am
here.
I'm
asking
questions
because
this
was
bought
with
our
many
TV
time
was
bought
with
our
money
to
promote
basically
jobs
through
companies
and
people
that
bring
people.
So
my
time
is
up
and
I.
Thank
you
very
much
for
thank.
L
L
Am
Reverend,
Lisa,
Landis
and
I
know
that
I
stand
up
here
a
lot,
but
I
would
hope
that
I
would
have
a
little
bit
of
respect
that
you
guys
would
at
least
listen
to
what
I
say,
but
since
I
know
that
that's
kind
of
pushing
it
I'm
going
to
talk
about
free
speech
and
in
our
rights
to
come
up
here,
because
it's
like
we,
the
people
want
to
speak
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
noticed
news
lately,
but
we
don't
just
want
to
speak.
We
want
to
gather
peaceably.
L
We
used
to
have
a
place
that
we
could
gather
peaceably
in
order
to
communicate
with
the
rest
of
our
community,
but
even
though,
between
the
city
and
the
county
records
show
that
there
was,
we
was
received
three
million
dollars
for
video
sales,
tax
and
peg
revenues.
We
couldn't
seem
to
get
200,000
for
the
People's
Voice.
L
We,
the
people,
have
been
talking
about
that.
Quite
a
lot,
I
see
it
starting
to
hit
national
media,
so
it
might
be
national
media.
That
really
brings
brings
the
corruption
to
light.
It's
been
said:
education,
law
enforcement
course
services
are,
you
know
important
to
this
county
and
it's
like
what
information
could
the
people
have?
That
is
so
important
that
you
want
to
deny
our
voices
in
order
to
communicate
the
information
that
we
have
I
wonder
about
that
1.5
million
square
feet
that
you
guys
have
that's
a
lot
of
square
footage.
L
You
know
why
couldn't
the
people
have
a
little
portion
of
that
in
order
to
peaceably
assemble
in
order
to
communicate
with
each
other?
And
then
it's
like
the
animal
shuttle.
I
am
so
happy
that
the
animals
are
warm
and
dry
and
fed.
Why
couldn't
we
do
that
for
people?
Why
do
we
spend
more
money,
making
our
greenways
beautiful
for
somebody
to
look
out
that
oh
gee
whiz?
L
They
don't
have
to
look
on
the
homeless
that
are
laying
on
the
sidewalks,
the
homeless,
that
get
fines
for
for
peeing
and
urinating
and
defecating
in
the
streets,
because
there
is
no
restroom.
There
is
no
public
restroom
for
the
people.
How
can
there
be
a
law
against
these
things
if
there
is
no
other
option
available?
L
You
know
that
charity,
the
cherry,
a
the
charity
that
people
give
it's
not
for
the
pat
on
the
back.
It's
not
for
the
plaque
on
the
wall.
Service
is
good
for
the
soul.
Service
is
serving
the
people
and
I
really
have
to
question
why
people
are
in
office
if
they
are
not
here
to
serve
the
people.
Thank.
H
Good
afternoon,
dr.
Milton
burn
this
issue,
I'm,
going
to
pick
up
a
point,
miss
Landers
and
just
said
about
freedom
of
speech,
and
quite
often
it
is
a
challenge
to
sit
here
and
listen
to
how
people's
perceptions
can
come
from
so
many
directions
and
you
try
to
keep
up
with
them.
It's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do,
especially
when
you
can't
follow
them,
because
sometimes
you
just
can't
it
happens.
It's
called
humanity
human
event,
but
there
is
something
gone
with
this
occupation
movement.
That's
going
on
all
over
the
country.
H
That
is
an
effect
right
here,
very
important.
It's
called
public
trust
and
I
want
to
focus
on
that
tonight,
because
that's
something
this
commission
and
every
local
governance
has
got
to
pay
attention
to,
because
it's
part
of
your
responsibility,
the
public
trust
it
is
the
very
foundation
of
your
authority
as
representation
of
We
the
People.
H
The
issue
of
public
trust
is
what
created
this
country
in
its
governance.
Yet
we've
seen
so
much
of
eroded
because
of
the
trappings
of
bureaucracy.
The
mistakes
of
leadership
done
from
so
many
different
directions
of
well.
Let's
just
call
it
abuse,
because
mistakes
are
there
and
abuse
is
there?
When
do
we
change?
When
do
we
redirect
our
focus
into
rebuilding
public
trust
so
that
we
have
the
people
empowered
to
create
the
force
that
will
change
this
country
where
it
can
thrive
again?
H
Because
it's
going
to
be
we
the
people
that
will
do
it
I,
don't
care
how
much
effective
and
efficient
bureaucracy
you
create?
If
it's
not
in
the
framework
of
public
trust,
it
will
not
be
suitable,
it
will
not
be
sustainable
and
it
will
not
be
supportable
because
we,
the
people,
create
that
support.
It
is
for
their
meaning
the
people
sustainability,
because
if
we
can't
be
sustainable,
then
the
whole
Tower
of
bureaucracy,
collapses.
H
Humanity
is
still
upon
people.
Governance
is
there
for
people.
Public
trust
I
want
to
challenge
you
for
this
coming
year,
where
we're
going
to
have
economic
challenges
that
are
going
to
be
taking
us
down
some
very
slippery
slopes
to
build
public
trust.
I
know
this
podium
is
one
thing
that
represents
public
trust
of
the
people.
You
know
you
talk
about
the
freedom
of
speech.
A
I
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
aboard
you
know
each
meeting
I've
come
to
your
recently
within
the
last
six
months.
It
seems
mr.
chairman,
you
and
the
board
and
whoever
is
advising
you
politically
or
of
non-politically.
It
seems
that
the
noose
is
getting
tighter
and
tighter
and
tighter
and
I
remember
the
story
about
my
grandfather
in
Madison
County
telling
the
story
about
going
to
the
lights
hanging
that
they
had
on
the
square.
I
I
I
Stanley
served
in
the
war,
but
let
me
tell
you
the
freedom
that
they
fought
and
died
for
I'm
standing
here
today,
witnessing
it
firsthand
from
politicians
being
taken
away,
and
let
me
tell
you
it
hurts
me
to
my
heart,
because
it
feels
like
the
day
that
dad
and
mother
said
at
the
table
and
talked
about
how
they
had
lost
her
son
and
what
he
give
his
life
for.
I.
I
Think
sometimes
your
heart
gets
hardened
because
of
what
you
hear
you
need
to
soften
it
up.
You
need
to
understand
we're
human
being
standing
this
podium
and
we
need
that
peace
and
satisfaction
to
be
able
to
express
to
our
representative
and
to
our
statesmen
and
not
to
a
bunch
of
politicians.
We
need
statesmen
and
states
women.
We
need
people
that
are
listening,
not
people
that
are
sitting
there
and
doing
as
you
please
and
then
leave
and
do
whatever
you
like.