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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Pre-Meeting (April 2, 2019)
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Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' from April 2, 2019.
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Asking
you
to
the
board
is
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
which
authorizes
and
consolidated
and
modified
economic
development
agreement
incentives.
So,
by
approving
the
resolution
you
would
be
authorizing
the
agreement,
so
there's
something
one
vote
which
you
need
for
that.
As
a
reminder,
we've
got
two
agreements
with
Linamar,
currently
one
for
2011
one
for
2014.
The
resolution,
if
approved,
would
merge,
consolidate
and
modify
into
a
single
agreement
with
a
single
set
of
milestones.
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We're
doing
or
have
that,
but
it's
absolutely
horrible,
ano
and
part
of
the
story
will
tell
today,
you
know,
begins
with
Volvo
sort
of
leaving
the
area
in
2010,
250
jobs
that
went
with
that.
We'll
also
talk
a
little
bit
about.
You
know
how,
after
Linamar
came
in,
they
had
expectations
around
the
caterpillar
plan,
which
we
lost
as
well,
which
impacted
their
growth
strategy
and
thus
our
economic
development
agreement
with
them
any.
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We've
spoken
a
couple
of
times
about
this
before
tonight:
we'll
get
the
public
hearing
for
the
manufacturer
on
text
amendment.
Basically,
it
looks
to
expand
the
placement
of
manufactured
homes
and
three
additional
districts.
R1
r2
and
Beaver
Dam
do
vote
to
approve
the
item
we
have
discussed
before
about
a
change
in
materials
to
remove
wood
as
an
allowable
finish
and
stick
with
the
the
block
or
the
brick
as
part
of
the
skirting.
That
would
be
on
top
of
a
permanent
foundation.
These.
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A
A
Information
that's
publicly
available
about
you
know
some
people
do
developments,
they
put
different
restrictions
and
Covenants
on
it
or
the
peanut.
Not
much
government
zoning
but
like
private,
you
know,
easements
is.
Is
there
a
way
from
not
complaining
Department
perspective
to
understand
where
those
properties
are
in
the
county,
or
is
that
like
not
publicly
recorded
or.
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Organized
or
you
know
actually
that
would
be
through
the
Register
of
Deeds
restrictive
covenants.
It
would
take.
If
you
wanted.
A
comprehensive
list
of
those
I
will
tell
you.
That
would
be
a
very
heavy
lift,
because
we
have
to
basically
analyze
property
by
property.
I
mean
you
might
find
a
whole
entire
subdivision
yet
would
take
today.
So.
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Than
we
had
and
it's
been
around
a
long
time,
but
as
far
as
history-
that's
where
the
first
direction
there's
enough
to
give
direction
to
the
staff,
and
they
always
work
on
this,
and
so
that's
kind
of
where
that
came
from.
It's
really
been
going
on
so
long.
It's
it
wasn't.
It
wasn't
on
our
agenda
chairman
said
I
mean.
A
Would
say
you
know
in
the
future,
these
are
the
kind
of
policies
I
think
that
committee
would
want
to.
You
know
talk
about
before
they
come
to
the
Commission,
because
this
is
clearly
really
all
about
affordable
housing.
Right
I
mean
that's
really
the
main
reason
that
the
Commission
I
think
has
been
interested
in
talking
about
it,
but
as
as
commissioner
Beltre
said
for
for.
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K
You
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
gotten
from
a
few
people.
They
have
thinking
of
manufactured
homes
today
as
mobile
homes
when
I
started
to
work
the
bank
for
the
bank
in
71
and
they
depreciated,
they
didn't
appreciate
I,
think.
Maybe
we
need
to
make
it
clear
that
you
know
when
you
look
at
manufactured
homes
today
and
the
way
they're
constructed
and
put
up.
You
know
they.
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K
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B
Think
I
heard
that
this
was
a
maybe
last
year
this
year
was
the
first
year
that
the
single
section
manufactured
homes
went
up.
You
mean,
as
part
of
the
building
code,
appreciate
appreciate
it
and
I
may
be
wrong,
but
I
believe
I
heard
that
but
Commissioner
Whiteside
at
this
point
he's
he
is
absolutely
spot-on
and
it's
you
know
it's
a
combination
of
the
home
and
the
land
that
got
the
value
of
the
the
assets
associated.
That's
what
we're
being
very
careful
is
to
the
exterior.
Why.
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B
A
A
The
zoning
was
adopted
in
2009
so
decade
ago,
so
before
he
was
were
here
before
you
were
in
the
planning
department.
So
this
may
be
an
impossible
question
to
answer.
But
you
know,
one
of
my
questions
is
just
when
we
have
these
different
residential
zoning
categories:
R
1,
R,
2,
R,
3
and
look
at
city
residential,
but.
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This
this,
the
restrictions
that
are
placed
now
are
on
R,
1
and
R
2
districts
there's
more
questions
like.
Is
there
some?
What's
the
basis
for
how
the
current
zoning
plan
determined
these
areas
should
be
R,
1
versus
R,
2
and
R
3,
because
to
me
it
seems,
you
know,
frankly,
somewhat
arbitrary,
which
is
part.
What
I
don't
like
about
the
current
policy?
Is
they
kind
of
treats
different
areas
of
the
county
differently
like
if
this
is
okay
in
some
neighborhoods?
A
Wants
it
not
okay
here,
but
is
there
some
more
compelling
underlying
reason
why
you
know
these
distinctions
were
made,
or
was
it
just
more
that
hey?
You
know
the
people
who
adopted
zoning
at
the
time
felt
like
there
should
be
these
different
zoning
categories
and
had
to
make
different
decisions
about
where
each
of
them
would
be
so.
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Two
things,
though
one
is,
let's
go
back
in
time
to
the
limestone
zoning
district,
which
served
as
the
basis
for
how
properties
are
zoned.
Today,
Beaver
Dam
was
kind
of
because
it
was
its
own
unique
district
limestone
served
as
your
r1
r2.
All
those
districts
were
there.
It
was
simply
applied
countywide,
the
more
rural
areas,
the
farther
as
you
get
out
from
the
municipalities.
That's
where
you
find
your
clusters
of
open
use,
the
areas
that
are
closer
into
the
municipalities
where
it
becomes
denser
it
becomes
more
urban.
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That's
where
you'll
find
that
that
pattern
of
r1
and
r2
one
other
significant
thing
happened:
the
state
abolished.
We
reveal
and
the
city
of
Asheville
its
et
J's.
So
that's
where
you
will
also
find
a
concentration
of
commercial,
r1
and
r2
when
that
happened,
the
other
state,
the
state
as
part
of
their
their
abolition
bill,
said
only
in
counties
where
countywide
zoning
existed,
so
the
county
had
to
match
zoning
districts
as
closely
as
possible
to
Weaverville
and
Asheville.
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So
you'll
find
as
you
move
out,
you
go
more
rural,
but
as
you
move
in
you
become
more
urban
in
the
pattern.
You'll
find
more
r1
r2
with
Weaverville
and
Asheville,
as
well
as
limestone
and
Beaver
Dam.
You
did
have
restrictions
in
terms
of
the
placement
of
manufactured
homes,
so
this
is
a
policy
shift.
Okay,.
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B
So
what
what
was
occurring
is
with
someone
was,
you
know,
building
a
doctor
built
home
they're
coming
into
an
area
you
know,
and
they
the
only
thing
they
could
do
is
get
it
rezone
at
r3
and
they're
inviting
out
of
their
minds
because
included
in
our
threesome
manufacture
home
park.
You
know
which
may
or
may
not
be
appropriate
to
that
area,
but
certainly
you
know
call
us
part
of
this.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we're
doing.
A
In
is
that
a
lot
of
the
financing
of
this
housing
is
based
on
interest
rates
that
are
retire
than
what
can
then
you
know
other
traditional
stick
built
homes
qualify
for,
and
so
even
though
it
is,
you
know,
the
housing
is
less
expensive
to
build
or
require
you
know.
If
if
people
have
these,
you
know
in
some
cases
you
know
listen
to
the
people
who
are
making
the
arguments
is
kind
of
predatory
lending
type
situations.
A
A
In
terms
of
looking
at
this
is
like
it
would
this
help
with
affordable
housing
right,
but
if
people
are
paying
eight
percent
instead
of
one
and
a
half
percent
on
interest
rates,
you
know
to
to
buy
a
house,
then
maybe
it's
not
so
affordable
after
all,
and
then
the
second
is
there
anything
from
a
policy
standpoint:
the
county.
If
we're
going
to
create
policies
that
allow
this
to
be
done
in
more
parts
of
the
county,
you
can
do
to
actually
address
that
issue.
Okay,.
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A
A
Against
the
value
of
the
land,
rather
than
the
actual
home
like,
if
you
know,
if
you're
gonna
buy
a
house,
you
know
the
bank
requires
an
appraisal
of
the
property
to
make
sure
it
could
that
the
loan
supports
the
value
that
the
house
supports
the
value
falutin,
but
that
we
manufacture
housing.
Sometimes
it
doesn't,
or
maybe
in
often
cases
it
doesn't,
and
interest
rates
are
much
higher.
I
think.
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I
can
help
go
ahead.
What
usually
happens
and
yeah
I
put
on
my
bank
ahead
again.
What
happens
when
you
look
at
manufactured
housing?
Is
that
a
lot
of
the
people
who
purchase
manufactory
housing?
They
can't
purchase
the
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
homes,
so
unfortunately
they
accredit
a
lot
of
them,
starting
out
then
had
bumps
in
the
road
and
that
credit
might
not
be
750
or
whatever
it
is.
Whatever
the
scores
are
the
day
and
that's
why
you
might
see
their
credit
a
little
higher
then
say
it
would
be
somebody
with
eight
hundred
or
whatever.
K
It
is
how
they
look
at
it
now
and
what
happened
and
I
agree
with
the
predatory
lending.
Now
that's
another
issue,
because
that
gets
out
of
completely
out
of
man,
but
hopefully
a
lot
of
holes
in
place
now
I
think
prevent
that.
But
that's
one
of
the
reasons
in
manufactured
housing
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
starting
out
they're,
struggling
to
get
ahead
as
their
first
home
and
they
don't
always
have
you
know
the
best
credit.
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A
Based
on
just
the
inherent
value
of
the
property,
but
with
manufactured
housing,
they
they
oftentimes
or
will
not
be
able
to
and
then
therefore
they're
just
looking
at
that
person's
credit
score.
Maybe
it's
not
great.
Therefore
you
know:
hey
you're,
you
know
yeah,
we'll
give
you
a
loan,
but
it's
it's
gonna
be
expensive.
Well,.
K
You
were
looking
at
Eastern
North
Carolina.
Most
of
those
were
older
homes.
They
were
not
new
homes
and
Shirley's
from
me,
I
worked
some
and
one
of
the
floods
in
Eastern,
North,
Carolina
I'm,
familiar
with
the
Rocky
Mountain
area
and
all
that,
but
you
were
dealing
now
with
all
the
mobile
homes,
not
the
Newlands.
But
if
you
look
at
a
lot
of
a
hurricane
areas
in
Florida,
Texas
Gulf
region,
it's
a
different
ballgame.
What.
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B
B
Needs
to
be
concerned
about
predatory
lending
federal
government
passed
dodd-frank
to
deal
with
that.
You
cannot
have
it
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
it
does.
You
cannot
take
someone
that
has
more
property
and
give
them
a
loan
when
they
can't
take
for
it.
You
can't
make
a
loan
on
any
product
with
incredible.
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Rates
because
it
is
not
legal,
you
cannot
do
that,
so
the
term
predatory
was
dealt
with
by
dog
time,
with
a
lot
of
struggling
and
concern
with
it
within
different
different
industries,
but
it
has,
it
has
helped
just
made
it
very,
very
complicated
that
it
has
stopped
the
issues
that
you're
speaking
of
second
things.
So
that's
one
resource.
The
second
resource
is
Fannie
Mae
and
Freddie
Mac.
If
you
go
to.
E
B
Mae
and
Freddie
Mac
and
you
will
look
at
their
lending
what
they
do.
They
lend
very
aggressively
in
the
manufactured
housing
industry
because
they
recognize
as
if
they
have
what's
called
a
duty
to
serve,
which
means
that
they
cannot
make
loans
just
to
rich
people.
They
cannot
make
loans
just
to
middle-income
people.
They
must
reach
the
underserved
either
by
income
or
the
chairman's
born
by
credit,
and
they
have
guidelines
that
work
within
the
dodd-frank
to
allow
those
loans
to
occur.
There
is
actually
a
product
at
Fannie,
Mae
and
Freddie
Mac.
B
B
Requirements:
it's
just
that
the
industry
has
worked
with
Fannie,
Mae
and
Freddie
Mac
to
provide
them
a
product
that
allows
them
to
meet
their
duty
to
serve
and
so
well.
What
we
would
be
doing
is
actually
giving
people
the
opportunity
to
go
and
get
a
30-year
loan
if
the
product
and
the
property
and
the
person's
ability
to
pay
all
three
of
those
things
come
together
and
then
that
person
can
get
a
great
product
to
commissioners.
B
Edwards
point
what
typically
happens
in
Turkey
man.
Your
next
home
community
would
not
be
much
different
than
an
apartment
complex.
If,
if,
if
a
major
storm
or
a
flood
occurs,
and
you
have
a
concentration
of
homes,
then
you're
going
to
have
extensive
damage
and
that's
typically,
what
gets
promoted
and
advertising
and
should
that
when
those
houses
are
replaced
and
must
be
replaced
according
to
current
flood
requirements.
N
B
B
New
manufacturing
shoes
there
because
that's
all
they
can
afford,
but
what
you
will
see
is
you
will
see
them
set
higher.
You
will
see
there.
The
tie-down
requirements
are
strapping
to
the
commissioner
white
students
point
about
about
Florida
in
1993,
post
Andrew.
They
went
through
and
made
all
these
changes
in
how
a
house
must
be
tied
down.
They.
B
But
they're
old
concerns
they're.
Those
ships
have
sailed
a
long
time
ago.
People
that
are
afraid
of
afraid
of
allowing
someone
to
have
the
home
of
their
choice
tend
to
tend
to
have
those
questions
and
concerns
and
they
need
to
be
answered,
but
they,
but
they
have
man.
If
you
go
to
dodd-frank
you'll,
go
to
if
your
Google
Fannie
Mae
and
Freddie
Mac
an
inmate's
advantage,
you
can
see
that
they're,
very
aggressive
and
and.
A
G
A
G
That's
one
of
the
things
that
key
Sophos
studied
so
when
you
do
permanently
affixed
them
to
the
foundation
with
the
standards,
that's
where
you're
starting
to
get
into,
because
a
permanent
fixture
of
the
property
versus
something
that's
just
personal
property.
If
you
were
just
to
go
in
lead
to
the
tongue,
trail
lights,
put
it
on
blocks
temporarily,
that's
where
it
does
not
become
a
person.
So
all
of.
A
B
Again,
unless
it's
going
into
community
chairman,
unless
it's
go
in
a
community
where
it's
leased
property
or
if
it's
going
on
private
property,
your
lender
will
Florida
or
require
one
it
has
to
those
things
have
to
be
removed
and
they
would
they.
It
requires
it
to
be
real
property
and
that's
where
the
rate
well.
B
Are
good
to
make
that
make
a
big
difference,
so
that's
why
the
requirement
for
their
foundation?
You
know
post
FHA
and
you
may
pay
back.
You
know.
Maybe
major
lender
they're
gonna
want
that
again
it
takes
it
from
it,
takes
it
from
basically
mobile
home
to
home.
Once
you
get
the
foundation,
no
difference
all.
N
So
we
have
to
rezoning
applications.
Only
agenda
is
only
public
hearing,
2019
Oh,
three
Lee's
Creek
and
four,
which
is
as
rezoning
leads
Creek,
is
65
and
67.
These
Creek
Road
near
the
intersection
of
these
Creek
Road
or
what
Hills
its
authority
the
trees
behind
the
emergency
management
facility
for
reference,
both
applications,
the
Hernandez
rezoning,
is
a.
N
N
N
B
N
What
about
Lake
Cree,
these
great
kids
rezoning
from
r12
public
services?
Again,
if
you
look
at
the
zoning
boundary
in
that
area,
what's
being
requested,
I
would
I'll
use
a
more
rational
zone.
The
boundary
in
that
particular
area,
the
applicant
their
goal
was
to
establish
a
pre-k
program
in
the
existing
building.
It's
not
allowable
in
r1.
It
would
be
allowable
under
public
services.
It.
E
N
A
Someone
estimated
last
where
it
is
so
the
Planning
Board
approved
the
recommended
changes
6-2
to
such
squared
to
ask:
could
you
sit?
Can
you
just
kind
of
summarize
I'm
at
the
support
issues
that
seems
important
to
listen
to
you
know
what
are
plenty
of
words
saying
about
this?
What
were
the
predominant
use
this
favor
and
those
who
voted
against
the
keys
for
the
summer
is
because
the
plaintiff,
where
it's
been
paramount
confidence
right
so
they're
kind
of
summarizing
what
their
thoughts
were
about
the
majority
of
you
and
those
veterans
so.
G
You
know
someone
may
not
be
able
to
afford
a
modular
home,
a
modular
of
course
being
built
to
building
code
manufactured
home
being
built
to
HUD
standards
and
there's
a
price
gap
between
the
manufactured
home
and
the
first
entry
point
of
a
modular
which
is
a
fun
frame.
There's
two
forms
of
modular
on
from
an
offering,
and
so
it
was
looking
at
just
allowing
another
option
in
in
a
County.
That's
challenged.
G
H
H
Most
of
the
terms
of
that
loan
were
part
of
the
approval,
including
the
zero
percent
interest
in
the
20-year
term,
as
well
as
some
repayment
which
are
listed
in
the
request
for
board
action
cover
sheet,
as
well
as
in
the
loan
agreement
itself,
commitment
to
extend
the
period
of
affordability
and
also
a
commitment
to
pay
property
taxes.
We
talked
about
this
last
time.
The
new
pieces
which
are
coming
to
the
board
through
the
Affordable
Housing
Committee,
is
the
disbursement
schedule
and
that's
listed
on
your
sheet.
H
H
H
F
We
spoke
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
the
MSD
easement
next
to
Ferry
Road,
so
that
easement
has
been
in
place
with
the
sewer
line
have
been
in
place
over
there
for
about
30
years
and
for
compliance
and
regulatory
reasons.
They
recently
had
a
as
built
survey
done
and
the
road
and
the
easements
don't
all
match,
so
they
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
county
would
offer
them
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
the
easement
location
is
in
safe
places.
F
J
Mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
Commission
moving
right
along
I
would
be
I
will
be
presenting
a
resolution
for
you
to
authorize
counted
Andrew
into
a
grant-funded
position,
a
policy
so
that
we
can
give
benefits
to
grant
funded
employees.
We
don't
really
have
that
in
our
personnel
ordinance,
so
we're
passing
this
policy
that
basically
will
give
them
healthcare
retirement
401k.
E
J
A
A
C
J
H
Defer
to,
however,
you
want
to
handle
the
agenda
item
this
evening.
The
there
is
a
set
of
board
appointments
that
are
coming
out
of
committee,
so
this
is
for
the
early
childhood
education
and
development
committee.
As
you
remember,
the
committee
was
established
by
resolution
of
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
the
three
commissioner
members
of
that
committee
were
appointed
in
january
Whitesides
and
Presley.
We
advertised
for
members
of
the
public
to
join
that
committee
received
29
applications
for
what
the
committee
was.
H
Initially
thinking
might
be
six
seats,
we
had
defined
a
schedule
of
different
representations
which
you'll
see
on
your
cover
sheets
and
then
representing
the
business
community,
someone
who
is
a
parent,
etc
when
we
receive
those
applications
and
the
Commissioner
members
of
that
committee
reviewed
those.
It's
explored
the
idea,
since
we
haven't
yet
passed
that
bylaws.
We
have
flexibility
to
explain
the
size
of
that
committee
and
ultimately
are
recommending
an
addition
of
12
members
to
the
three
who
are
already
seated.
H
B
H
H
We
also
followed
up
with
member
all
of
the
applications
and
gathered
further
information
about
what
they're
interested
background
attributes
that
they
were
bringing
and
then
the
committee
members,
the
three
committee
members
each
went
home
and
worked
it
dependently
to
select
their
recommended
applications,
and
then
we
went
through
sort
of
a
sorting
process
which
I
would
ask
if
anyone
else
wants
to
sort
of
describe
or
speak
to,
they
give
it
narrowed
down.
We
didn't
have
narrowed
down
to
six
and
that's
why
we
ended
up
with
12
some
of
the
I.
I
Mean,
first
of
all,
just
that
I
think
all
29
applications
were
very
strong
and
compelling.
But
as
we
went
into
the
discussion,
we
were
looking
for
representation
across
the
county,
so
represent
geographic
representation,
looking
at
folks
relevant
experience,
either
in
early
childhood,
specifically
or
relevant
sector.
I
E
I
Actual
perceived
conflict
of
interest,
so
that
was
something
else
we
looked
at
in
terms
of
whether
applicants
had
a
direct
relationship
with
entities
that
would
be
applying
and/or
and
how
close
that
relation
was
and
whether
that
would
present
conflicts
so
I
think
that
was
sort
of
the
matrix
we
tried
to
use.
It
was
a
tough
set
of
choices,
but
this
is
a
really
extraordinary
group
of
12
community
members
who
think
together,
it'd
be
quite
a
team,
and-
and
this
is
what
we've
heard
sort
of
starting
from
the
night.
I
H
An
aside
on
that,
we
do
have
let's
open
right
now
for
comments
and
feedback,
and
that
is
coming
in
to
give
information
advice.
Questions
to
that
committee
as
it
considers
the
investment
of
the
early
childhood
development
funds,
and
we
have
an
upcoming
public
input
session,
which
is
scheduled
for
April
11.
B
O
K
O
O
O
O
I
A
A
A
O
O
They've
already,
we've
already
had
the
extension
so
anytime
you
have
an
extension
or
the
original
contract.
You
automatically
get
a
30-day
leeway.
Okay,
so
since
March
31st
was
our
deadline,
we
actually
have
until
April
30th
to
get
this
thing
done,
so
we
don't
have
to
do
anything
additional
now.
If
something
else
came
up
that
was
going
to
push
us
beyond
that.
We
would
have
to
come
back
to
you.
K
O
We
have
talked
to
the
auditors
and
we
will
get
an
unmodified
a
clean
opinion.
Most
likely
I
can't
state
that
for
a
fact,
but
we
have
talked
to
them
and
there's
nothing
change
that
so
as
long
as
we're
getting
a
clean
opinion,
even
though
we
are
late,
I,
don't
see
that
impacting
our
bond
ratings.
At
this
point,
and
as
long
as
we
are
taking
corrective
action
to
address
whatever
bindings
there
may
be,
we
should
be
okay,
no
guarantees,
but.
F
Mountain
housing,
evil
market
finance
restructuring,
so
that's
still
under
a
TD
Bank
construction
loan
funding,
there's
no
real
market
for
that
they
don't
want
to
hold
it
so
they're
going
to
Freddie
Mac
through
bellwether.
So
what
the
ask
is
here
is
just
to
restructure
the
loan
for
the
permanent
financing
with
Freddie
Mac
and
their
documents
are
very
risk-averse
as
I'm
sure
you
all
know.
So
it's
not
for
any
new
money.
It's
not
changing
any
position.
F
B
F
F
Duke
Energy
progress
of
the
next
item
is
asking
to
change
their
use,
but
they've
had
an
easement
for
years
to
print
Bent,
Creek
property
and
they're
on
a
project
to
try
to
get
all
the
power
and
victory
underground,
because
there's
often
power
outages
because
of
the
current
conditions.
So
there's
asking
you
locate
the
appeasement
there,
so
they
can
go
underground,
checking
general
services
they're
fine
with
that
they
can
still
use
the
same
access
and
it
shouldn't
change
anything.
F
P
Good
afternoon,
chairman
and
commissioners,
with
recent
conversations
surrounding
the
mission,
property
sale,
valuation
revenue
estimate
and
in
the
context
of
fiscal
year,
20
budget
planning,
we
would
like
to
review
and
highlight
our
fiscal
year.
2011
airy
revenue
outlook,
as
well
as
some
details
with
Keith
Miller
for
the
mission,
property
valuation
estimates
and
timeline
in
your
packet.
You
have
five
sheets
that
I
will
reference
as
I
go
through?
Are
the
information
related
to
revenues.
P
So
for
March
15
2019
staff
developed
an
early
revenue
projection
based
on
our
commitment
to
Buncombe,
County
and
Asheville
City
Schools,
to
provide
them
with
an
unrestricted
revenue,
growth
calculation
for
budget
planning
purposes.
You
may
remember
that
mr.
wood
had
proposed
the
use
of
a
calculation
as
a
way
to
provide
a
budgetary
estimate
for
planning
purposes,
for
both
the
school
and
for
the
county.
P
The
projection
compares
the
percent
growth
from
the
current
your
adopted
budget
to
the
projected
next
year's
budget
specific
for
unrestricted
revenues.
Restricted
revenues
are
removed
from
the
calculation
as
they
are
identified
for
specific
purposes.
Therefore,
the
unavailable.
So
therefore,
those
restricted
revenues
are
unavailable
for
generalized
use
or
application
in
the
worksheet
provided
to
you
today.
The
unrestricted
revenue
percent
growth,
as
of
March
15th,
was
4.2
4%
I,
don't
I'm,
not
gonna,
go
into
specific
details
around
the
specific
calculation,
but
wanted
to
provide
it
to
you,
as
we
have
shared
this
with
the
schools.
B
P
P
I
P
Currently,
because
those
are
one-time
revenues
and
those
are
received
in
the
fiscal
year
2019,
you
won't
see
them
depicted
here,
because
what
what's
here
is
your
fiscal
year,
2019
adopted
budget
and
then
fiscal
year,
2020
means
requested.
So
we've
received
those
in
the
current
fiscal
year.
Where
you
will
see
those
show
up
is
going
to
be
in
the
fiscal
year.
29
projections
and.
M
P
Comparison:
fiscal
year,
29
adopted
and
fiscal
year
2020
as
of
April
1st
we've
conducted
a
first
pass
for
fiscal
year,
20
projected
revenue
as
of
April
1st
and
we've,
provided
you
with
that
side-by-side
comparison.
The
total
first
pass
revenue
projection
is
317
million
three
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
ninety
three
dollars.
P
You
can
see
that
total
reflected
in
the
second
column
on
that
handout
for
comparison
purposes,
the
fiscal
year,
nineteen
revenue
budget
without
appropriated
fun
balance
is
three
hundred
and
eight
million
one
hundred
and
eighty
three
thousand
and
thirty
seven
dollars
in
comparison.
Now
to
the
first
pass
for
fiscal
year
20
we
will
have.
We
anticipate
an
experienced
a
two
point:
nine
eight
percent
growth.
So
about
nine
point,
one
eight
revenue
streams,
re-evaluated
as
we
continue
to
receive
actual
revenues
in
the
current
fiscal
year
and
conduct
work
on
projections.
P
I'll
highlight
some
areas
in
that
comparison.
As
you
can
see,
the
general
revenues
is
our
largest
value
of
revenues.
The
total
growth
for
general
revenues
is
four
point.
Three
percent
embedded
inside
general
revenues
is
our
local
options,
sales
tax,
so
those
various
articles
that
are
in
the
general
fund,
so
only
the
portions
that
the
county
maintains
is
estimated
with
a
growth
of
five
point:
six,
seven
percent.
So
that's
inside
the
general
revenue.
K
K
P
Only
the
general
fund
Sheridan
a
couple
other
items
that
I
will
point
out
in
reference
to
the
comparison.
You
will
see
parking
services,
revenue
of
six
hundred
and
seventy
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
two
dollars
that
looks
like
a
new
revenue.
In
reality.
That's
been
it's
an
accounting
practice
for
us
I'm.
Previously,
those
would
have
been
netted
against
each
other.
P
P
So,
moving
on
to
your
handout,
which
is
titled
estimated
advantage
for
2020
the
tax
assessor
and
the
tax
collector,
are
an
integral
part
to
the
development
of
our
ad
valorem
tax
revenues
projection.
The
budget
calendar
outlines
two
dates
in
which
we
review
and
discuss
tax
valuations
in
conjunction
with
the
tax,
assessor
and
collector
march.
P
So
you'll
see
notes
on
the
subject
to
change
and
we
do
continue
to
reevaluate
as
those
actuals
come
in,
focusing
on
the
fiscal
year,
20
column
on
your
handout,
the
estimated
total
property
valuation
amount
is
38
billion,
861
million,
twelve
thousand
nine
hundred
and
eighty
nine
dollars
the
ad
valorem
estimated
revenue,
taking
into
account
a
ninety
nine
point:
seven
five
percent
collection
rate
totals
205
million
and
sixty
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twenty
two
dollars
compared
to
fiscal
year.
Nineteen.
P
B
P
L
L
So
at
that
time,
Commission
health
properties,
real
estate
was
value
to
the
940
million.
That
was
what
was
actually
on
the
assessments
on
the
books.
A
new
health
power
was
an
estimate
because
it
was
just
started.
Construction
mission,
personal
property
was
clearly
just
an
estimate
because
we
at
that
point
didn't
really
know
how
much
personal
property
they
had
so.
H
L
Million
1.6
billion
value
estimate
and
March
of
2018
was
truly
just
a
snapshot
and
our
best-case
scenario
when
I
was
asked
how
big
do
you
think
this
is
okay
at
that
point?
Nobody
knew
because
at
that
point
nobody
knew
what
the
sales
process
was
going
to
be.
I
didn't
even
clearly
know
what
was
gonna
be
sold.
L
L
We
move
on
then
to
January
of
2019
between
March
of
2019,
some
things
that
we
learn
well,
the
sales
price
was
1.5
billion,
now,
1.5
billion
included,
all
about
them
and
all
the
outlying
counties,
regional
hospitals.
So
at
that
point
we
knew
that
we
would
not
have
a
taxable
value
of
1.5
billion
because
we
had
to
separate
out
the
other
values
determine
what
was
in
Buncombe,
okay,
so
January
1
of
2019,
which
was
your
physical
year
20
the
values
which
Jennifer
is
estimating
for
you.
L
Now
in
your
revenues,
the
mission
health
properties
real
estate
value
only
we
are
estimating
for
out
by
20
at
the
417
million
okay.
This
is
made
up
of
approximately
70
different
parcels
of
real
estate.
So
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
complexity
and
a
lot
of
different
things
in
this
mission
helped
our
currently
under
construction.
We
have
an
estimated
value
for
FY
20th
to.
L
Million
and
that's
where
the
construction
was
at
on
January
1,
ok,
so
that's
an
estimated
%
complete
as
of
January
1.
Now,
with
that
there
we
had
some
help
from
mission
and
from
HCA
to
help
us
determine
how
much
they
had
spent
on
the
building.
At
that
point
mission-
personal
property,
personal
property,
you
get
no
value
for
FY
2002
sheet,
I've
included
the
statute
for
you,
105
to
85.
The
statute
says
exempt
property
transferring
to
a
non
exempt
entity
real.
L
Will
become
taxable
for
that
year,
beginning
January
1
and
the
name
of
the
new
moment,
but
the
statute
does
not
give
you.
The
ability
to
do
is
tax.
The
personal
property
gives
you
the
ability
to
text
the
real
property,
but
not
the
personal
purpose.
So
you
don't
get
that
much
180
right,
so
total
estimated
value
for
FY
20
was
three
three
six.
I
L
March
of
2018,
this
940
million
was
was
truly
the
values
that
wasn't
all
the
parcel.
What
we
have
learnt
a
lot
of
things
since
then
working
with
mission
and
HCA,
so
the
940
million
does
get
reduced
in
value
for
a
few
reasons,
HCA
provided
us
CAD
drawings
for
the
complex
the
campus
here.
So
we
got
the
correct
square
footage.
L
Now
you
have
to
imagine
that
our
staff
trying
to
go
measure
that
buildings
was
pretty
complex,
but
they
provided
us
with
CAD
drawings
that
provide
us
with
engineer
reports
on
conditions
of
the
buildings,
things
that
need
to
be
repaired,
the
condition
on
Joseph
the
fact
that
that
building
and
although
I
think
three
floors
will
be
vacant
soon
as
soon
as
the
other
hospital
opens.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
things.
They
asked
us
to
take
into
consideration
as
far
as
conditions
of
those
buildings
that
have
not
been
taken
into
consideration,
while
the
property
was
exempt.
L
A
L
Based
on
the
940
was
based
clearly
just
on
an
hour
estimate
what
the
condition
of
the
buildings
were
and
what
we
have
in
the
schedule
values
as
far
as
a
cost
on
a
dollar
per
square
foot
for
a
hospital
and
what
we
consider
the
quality
of
that
hospital
to
be
that's
what
generates
that
number
on
the
schedule
values?
Now,
that's
that's
the
same
of
any
cost
approach
and
appraisal.
L
You
start
with
the
number
of
what
it
would,
what
it
is,
and
then
you
start
deducting
from
that
any
excessive
depreciation
or
anything
like
that
that
you
found
needs
to
be
repaired.
You
know,
there's
other
things
that
come
into
this,
but
the
940
had
not
considered
that
and
one
reason
that
hadn't
considered,
that
is,
that
the
property
been
exempt
forever.
L
B
L
O
L
Million
now
let
me
remind
you
that
I
came
to
you
some
time
back
and
we
entered
a
contract
with
tax
management
associate
Stu
to
do
the
audit
on
their
personal
property.
That's
not
complete
yet,
but
we
do
have
somewhat
of
an
estimate
from
them
and
what
that
looks
like,
but
it
is
taking
them
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
to
work
through
it.
As
you
can
imagine,
we
receive
a
spreadsheet
from
Mission
with
over
a
hundred
thousand
rows
in
it
of
personal
property.
Okay.
L
L
When
we
got
an
outside
firm
to
do
the
appraisal
with
a
personal
purple
trial,
actually
HCA
gave
us
a
copy
of
their
appraisals.
Hca
had
to
contract
for
the
third
party
appraisal
to
do
the
appraisals
on
all
the
real
real
estate
assets
and
they
shared
those
appraisals
with
us.
Now
that
is
a
complex
project.
You're
talking
about
many
buildings,
we
need
much
of
square
feet.
It
would
probably
cost
this
county
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
just
a
general
estimate
to
get
appraisals
on
all
that
ass,
all
those
assets.
L
L
Lobbying
their
own
contractor
to
you
know,
reduce
the
value,
so
I
get
what
you're
saying,
though,
and
they
did
employ
them
to
do
the
appraisal
for
them
now,
where
we
also
validate.
That
of
some
is
that
we
had
the
deed
stamps,
so
we
know
what
the
transfer
but
each
property,
for
we
also
know
what
the
other
counties
allocate
as
far
as
value,
so
the.
H
C
L
So
the
f1
2647
million
is
currently
under
appeal.
We
have
been
meeting
with
them.
They
came
here
and
spent
the
day
with
us,
you're
working
through
those
values,
but
that
value
is
doing
question.
Okay,
that's
why
I
tell
you
it's
an
estimated
value.
647
is
not
a
final
value
today
or
as
an
in
taxable
value.
That's
why
you
also
hear
Jennifer
using
in
her
estimates
the
five
hundred
million
as
being
the
estimate
of
taxable.
So
that's
that's
where
we're
at
in
that
process.
Now
an
appeal
to
take
appeals
can
take
a
long
time.
L
If
they
choose
to
not
settle
this
with
us,
they
will
then
go
to
our
local
board
of
equalization
review.
That
board
will
hear
the
appeal
if
they
don't
agree
with
that,
they
can
take
it
to
Raleigh
to
the
property
tax
commission
there
it
could
be
years.
I've
had
cases
sit
there
for
two
or
three
years
before
they're
heard
so
it
this
it
could
go
on
if
they
want
to
push
it
and
they
could
draw
this
out
for
some
time.
L
L
L
E
L
It's
under
a
pill,
they
can
choose
to
pay
that
or
not
okay.
If
they
pay
it
and
then
we
resolved
appeal,
the
appeal
amount
less.
We
refund
them
the
money
plus
interest
on
the
amount
we
refunded,
they
don't
pay
it
and
they
will
pay
it
when
we
settle
it
plus
interest
on
the
amount
that
they
did
not
pay.
Let's
answer
your
question,
but.
L
E
I
I
L
A
A
I've
worked
for
businesses.
That
I
mean
you
get
appraisals
done
and
you
engage
intensively
with
your
auditors
to
make
all
the
justifications
you
can
to
get
that
number
where
you
want
it
to
be
a
sure
as
well.
You
should
you
probably
don't
get
everything
you
ask,
but
that's
the
process
they've
gone
through
with
the
people
they
hired
so.
L
All
the
parcels,
except
for
the
mission
campus
we
did
well.
We
did
the
mission
campus
do,
however,
but
all
their
warehouses
all
their
leased
space,
all
their
independent
medical
buildings,
any
of
those
properties
they
have.
We
went
back
and
valued
those
just
as
if
an
individual
investor
on
okay,
as
we
would
do
with
in
ER,
so
you
own
a
medical
office
building
in
this
town
and
you
lease
it
and
we
put
a
value
on
it
for
you.
L
We
consider
these
buildings
to
be
exactly
the
same,
so
we
went
through
every
one
of
them
to
make
sure
they
were
actually
assessed
with
all
the
other
medical
buildings
in
the
county.
The
hospital
comes
a
little
more
difficult
because
you
don't
have
it
really.
You
know,
have
any
comparables
number
one.
L
Okay,
so
from
the
hospital
stand
points
especially
huge
buildings,
so
we
go
to
the
cost
approach
and
we
look
at
the
cost
approach,
what
it
costs,
what
it
would
cost
to
build
a
building
similar
to
that,
and
then
we
start
making
adjustments
to
it
upon
what
we
know.
As
far
as
quality
addition
depreciation,
all
the
things
involved
in
that,
because
what
we
want.
E
L
Do
internally
here
is
that
we
want
to
substantiate
what
they
have
told
us,
okay,
just
because
they
tell
me
it's
worth.
Five
hundred
million
doesn't
mean
that
we
take
a
step
back
and
say
okay
at
that
point,
then
we
go
to
work
and
we
say
we
got
to
prove
it
to
ourselves,
because
that's
what
we
do
for
the
citizens
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
the
right
thing.
So
we
we
are
digging
into
it
and
we
have
looked
at
other
hospitals
that
have
sold
the
problem
at
the
hospital
selling.
L
Is
that
there's
so
much
involved?
You
know
it's
difficult
to
learn
how
to
adjust
value
based
on
financing
and
based
on
corporations
and
based
on
business
value.
Just
there's
just
a
lot
involved,
but
the
cost
approach
is
really
the
only
way
to
do
it
and
we
we
became.
We
found
some
comfortability
and
some
numbers
with
what
we
did
looking
at
also
their
engineer
reports
and
their
CAD
drawings
and
the
square
footage
and
such
establish
so
I
think
I'm,
saying
that
you,
mr.
I
L
We
validated
the
appraisals
and
we
actually
came
in
still
a
little
bit
higher
than
the
appraisals
for
different
reasons
in
which
we
have
shared
with
them.
So
we
to
be
up
to
them
now
to
come
back
to
us
and
tell
us
if
they
accept
that
or
not,
but
that
goes
to
show
you
that
their
valuations
were
not
flawless.
We
did
spawn
things
in
them.
We
did
fun
things
and
the
reports
that
they
gave
us
that
didn't
work
for
us.
So
we
went
back
to
them
and
put
numbers
on
that
and
said:
here's
what
we
recommend.
F
We
are
working
to
update
a
surplus,
personal
property
disposition
policy.
The
Board
adopted
it
back
in
November
first
step.
We
want
to
do
just
make
sure
that
we
do
everything
the
same
way
every
time
and
properly
and
want
to
bring
to
the
board
list
of
properties
which
would
like
the
board
to
declare
a
surplus
and
authorize
staff
to
dispose
those
the
staff
has
done
this
in
the
past.
C
And
I've
had
some
requests
as
far
as
surplus
property
is
several
nonprofits
that
are
interested.
So
one
of
the
things
that
you
will
see
us
performing
to
you
is
across
the
street
on
father's
event
of
opportunity
to
access
some
of
the
surplus
property.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
allow
you
considered
a
private
steal.
The
statue
allows
us
to
the
private
self
and
our
goal
would
be
they're.
Not
a
non-profit
is
to
take
a
look
at
it.
Give
them
ten
days
to
review
it.
C
They
get
what
there
is
they
want,
and
then
it
would
go
for
public
stab
at
that
point,
but
there
will
be
a
fair
market
value
that
staff
with
establish
the
nonprofit
could
pay
for
that
item
and
then,
after
it
would
go
on
dunkings
so
meet
up.
We
do
have
a
non-profit
here,
that's
very
interested
in
some
of
the
properties
that
we
will
be
putting
on
the
market,
so
to
speak.
Most.
E
C
Our
department,
you
could
do
a
donated,
that's
another
process.
This
way,
there's
so
many
nonprofits
that
are
coming.
We
will
be
picking
one
or
two
too
big
to
donate
it
to
so.
This
way
we're
giving
everybody
the
same
playing
field.
If
you
did
want
to
do
any
that,
you
can
bring
that
to
us.
Nothing
other
resolution
that
we
could
do
for.
B
E
F
F
The
statute
allows
the
Board
of
Commissioners
or
city
to
establish
a
procedure
to
put
that
in
place
related
requires
that
it
be
offered
at
a
fair
market
value
and
that
can
be
Kelley
Blue
Book
if
it's
a
vehicle
or
just
looking
around
and
shopping
around
the
finding
kept
variables
for
old
computer
monitors
or
phones,
or
anything
like
that.
Okay,.
A
C
Donations,
if
you
donations,
is
already
by
statutes.
If
you
wanted
to
donated
something
we
were
just
the
nonprofit,
we
would
name
the
nonprofit
put
a
notice
in
the
paper
for
ten
days
and
then
they
will
be
donated.
That's
the
process
already
defined
by
the
statute.
So
if
you
want
to
donate
it,
your
nonprofit
is
name
advertise
and
then
it
not
profit
against
that
Pacific.
If.
A
A
C
Now
that
says,
you
would
prefer
to
sell
and
recoup
us
to
not
in
conflict
without
policy
who
dis
policy
the
same.
This
is
smaller
amounts,
thirty
thousand
or
so
under
that
we
could
sell
to
nonprofits
first,
so
they're
not
competing
with
another
county
across
the
state
and
just
competing
locally.
So
this
policy
was
branded
here
locally
and
we
get
to
established
that
baseline
for
fair
values.
C
It
wouldn't
be
a
five-minute
thousand
dollar
car,
much
smaller
than
that,
because
we
can
set
that
fear
about
you,
based
on,
like
you
said,
Kathy
Blue,
Book
and
Eva
will
get
that
maintenance
records
or
what
it's
costing
us
to
maintain
and
set
that
value.
So
it
would
not
be
prohibitive
for
a
non-profit
to
afford
it,
and
but
you
right,
if
you
wanted
to
donate,
that
the
statute
gives
you
to
be
leader
donated
you
just
have
to
do
a
public
tear
but
about
there
in
a
public.
Ten
days
come
back
to
hear
about
it.
B
F
F
Think
there
is
a
little
we
need
to
clean
up
as
the
differences
between
the
policy.
The
surplus
policy
within
the
procurement
manual
passed
last
November
with
another
resolution.
This
board
passed
about
three
years
ago.
That
said
we're
not
going
to
do
all
these
donations.
Let's
try
to
sell
them
fair
more
right,
so
we
need
to
align
these
well.
I.
Think
that.
B
C
What
it
stands
now,
we
have
an
ordinance
that
says
no
donations.
It
must
be
sold,
that's
what
their
policy
says.
Now
it
was
adopted
in
2015
and
it
so
there's
no
more
donations.
You
want
to
recoup
as
much
money
as
we
can
for
the
taxpayers
believe
would
sell
everything.
We
have
several
requests
for
donations,
so
we're
trying
to
find
a
way
that
we're
not
in
conflict.
You
can
reverse
that
old
policy
and
says
you
go
Billy.
Okay,.
A
So
let
me
catch
over
4,000
I
think
we
I
think
I
think
Commissioner
Belcher's
right
we've
had
this
kind
of
emphasis
and
trying
to
sell
some
of
the
surplus
real
estate
that
we
just
miss
counties
just
get
real
date
over
time.
So
we've
had
this
policy
trying
to
dispose
of
that
I
think
it's
gone
great.
We've
recoup
some
money
from
that
I
think
that's
working
great
on
the
on
the
surplus
vehicles
issue.
A
So
I
would
be
interested
in
revisiting
the
policy
to
maybe
maybe
modify
it
somewhat
to
consider
for
some
of
the
vehicles
that
we
no
longer
need
with
we're.
Gonna
sell
that
that
maybe
it
would,
it
is
worth
considering
a
policy
where
we
would
work
with
with
a
to
see
if
they
could
be
better
used
in
the
community
rather
than
just
monetizing
them.
So
I'd
be
interested
in
putting
that
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
going
to
Al's
question
about
you
know,
there's
so
many
nonprofits.
A
But
to
to
partner
with
working
wheels,
who
work
to
actually
get
these
older
vehicles
into
to.
They
basically
assist
citizens
in
Buncombe
County,
who
need
an
older
vehicle
which
is
affordable
to
you
know
for
their
transportation
needs,
and
they
have
a
whole
program
to
do
that,
and
so
I
would
be
interested
in
taking
a
look
at
whether
that
may
be
something
that
county
would
be
interested
in.
Considering.
H
A
A
B
B
They
were
their
rabbit
with
analyst
s
that
they're
having
to
use
the
brush
trick.
So
you
know
they
asked
for
vehicle,
and
this
has
been
going
on
with
roughly
now
we're
on
the
third
County
Manager
form.
It's
that's
one
thing:
I,
don't
want
any
sit
down.
Mister
mister
level
vehicle,
that's
around
800,000,.
B
B
B
B
The
whole
fleet,
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
Buncombe
County
guilty
I'd
like
to
do
that,
have
that
vehicle,
but
I
do
not
think
that
it's
good.
For
you
know
all
these
did
upon
good
deal,
and
then
they
end
up
down
in
South,
Carolina
or
Tennessee,
or
on
some
nice
car
lot.
You
know
or
whatever,
because
anybody
I
mean
they
come
if
we
could
use
it
in
Buckham
County
we've
already
spent
the
money,
taxpayers
already
pay
for
it.
We
can
use
it
in
Buncombe,
County
I
mean
it
makes
sense
to
me
to
use
it.
A
A
C
C
C
M
B
C
Q
We
we
did
formalize
an
evaluation
committee
that
there
are
several
committee
members
in
the
room
today.
We
appreciate
their
times
and
efforts
looking
through
the
proposal,
and
it's
that
was
our
goal
with
establishing
that
valuation
committee
was
to
provide
different
which
make
things
in
the
room,
and
we
certainly
were
able
to
do
that
with
a
citizen
representation
as
well
as
another
important
aspect
have
included
in
your
packet.
Hope,
it's
included
in
your
packet.
Q
Is
we
launched
a
let's
talk,
trash
survey
and
this
was
in
efforts
to
really
reach
out
to
the
community,
and
let
you
know
that
this
contract
is
coming
we're
evaluating
this
and
also
get
a
better
understanding
of
what's
important
to
the
citizens.
What
areas
should
we
be
focusing
on
improving
world
and
just
trying
to
establish
all
around
feedback?
Q
So
that
people
in
general
sometimes
have
confusion
on
what
can
be
recycled
proper
methods
of
recycling,
so
we
see
opportunity
to
improve
theirs
and
we're
certainly
gonna
focus
on
doing
that.
Maybe
7%
responses
to
see
recycling
collections
continued.
That's
important
and
eighty
percent
responded
being
interested
in
recycling
bins,
as
opposed
to
the
blue
bag
system
that
we're
currently.
Q
So
the
evaluation
committee
members-
yes
Jess-
foster,
see
eventual
solid
wedge
director
Eric
party
performance
management,
director,
Rashida
McDaniels,
with
community
development
specialists,
Tim,
loves
economic
developments,
myself
a
solid
waste
director
and
Mister
yep
as
Buncombe
County
resident.
Who
has
a
lot
of
experience
in
this
always
so
obviously,
with
the
Nightwatch
community
was
passed
with
objectively
evaluating
the
proposal
based
on
the
RFP
that
we.
Q
Not
only
did
we
prior
to
the
committee
and
establishing
the
RFP
criteria,
we
talked
to
Hollins.
Also,
we
met
with
haulers,
we
met
with
you,
know,
other
other
counties,
and
you
know
trying
to
get
the
brawl
that
rush
of
ways
that
we
can
improve
the
contract
parameters
and
better
serve
our
citizens.
The
and
we
talked
about
all
along
process
not
and
and
was
not
gonna,
be
the
deciding
factor
on
who
was
awarded
this
contract.
But
obviously
it's
certainly
an
important
criteria
and
you
can
see
in
the
packet
its
page.
Q
And
the
weight
applied
to
each
of
those
criteria
and
several
of
those
include
the
qualifications
of
computers
to
ensure
high
quality
services,
obviously
proposed
monthly
fees,
and
we
also
looked
at
automation.
We've
we
certainly
an
industry
view
as
favorable
changes
happening
with
safety
of
workers.
That's
that's
a
huge
issue
in
our
industry.
Q
Q
And
as
you
move
to
the
following
page,
page
3
of
the
summary
docket,
this
is
a
table
that
consolidates
the
pricing
proposed
by
waste
fraud
and
also
Santa,
which
was
proposing
to
be
non-responsive.
But
it
shows
some
comparison.
Data
I
will
or
please
note
that
at
the
end
of
this
current
contract
with
waste
Pro,
the
monthly
rate
for
subscribers
will
be
1608.
Q
We
had
proposers,
look
at
and
priced
for
us
and
propose
different
options
under
different
models:
the
two
models
being
subscriber
based
where
citizens
have
the
option
to
subscribe
to
the
franchise
collector
services
or
they
can
sell
all
their
waste
recycling
to
one
of
our
convenient
sites
and
be
comprehensive
and
incorporated
household
model
being
that
that
was
gonna,
be
assessed
to
everyone
across
the
board,
so
that
that
was
how
our
hopes
were
to
show
cost
comparisons.
And
if
we
were
able
to
gain
unit
cost
pricing
a
better
situation,
thereby
increasing
the
number
of
houses
service.
Q
Q
Several
more
highlights
will
include
strong
commitment
to
implementing
alternative
fuel
vehicles.
Awareness
of
the
Aryan
terrain-
if
this
is
this,
is
a
very
difficult
job.
It
is
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
work.
It's
collections
every
singles.
We
got
a
lot
of
feedback
on
a
survey
and
that's
something
that's
we'll
provide.
Is
the
comments
in
the
survey
section
that
people
were
able
to
go
and
just
type
in
comments.
This
is
what
we're
seeing
these
are
the
issues
we
want
you
to
have
all
that
we
just
didn't
want
to
print
all
those
out.
Q
So
again,
this
is
a
very
it's
a
very
different
contract.
I'm
thankful
that
we
have.
We
still
have
interest
and
companies
can
provide
these
services
because,
when
you
look
across
the
board
in
general,
mortgages
are
thin
with
residential
collections
compared
to
commercial
roll-off
and
commercial
though,
and
we're
seeing
big
haulers
pulling
back
from
the
table
and
not
wanting
to
participate
in
residential
collections.
So
that
was
a
real
concern
regards
on
the
front
end
and
we're
we're
seeing
that
nationwide
with
the
recycling
issues
as
well.
Q
The
benefits
were
impressive.
You
know
waster
employees,
ultimately
they're
our
brothers
and
sisters
and
family.
The
Buncombe
County
Center
bring
out
their
work.
We're
gonna
see
them
for
take
as
much
as
possible
and
do
my
wife's
press
proposal
shows
really
good
incentives
for
safety
and
incentivizing
their
supervisor
to
drive
a
ratio
is,
is
it's
good
based
on
they?
They
were
able
to
I
suppose
about
examples
of
technology
that
would
be
used,
and
that's
something
that
we
we
knew
we
had
to
see
improve
is
visibility
in
the
field,
as
services
were
being
performed.
Q
B
Yes,
so
I
mean
it's
like
not
doing
job
or
they're
in
a
race
and
I
mean
they're
when
they
pull
off
of
the
main
road
and
they
start
one
at
it
or
even
when
they're
on
the
road
it
doesn't
matter,
it
doesn't
matter
they
are,
and
so
you
know
one
of
the
questions.
I've
always
has
they
haven't.
You
know,
do
they
have.
B
Q
They
running
Lena,
Creek
yeah
and
it's
a
good
question.
I
felt
like
wife's
Pro
acknowledged
that
they
work
too
lean
for
for
a
long
time.
You
know
there
are
obvious
dips
in
their
service
levels,
but
we're
all
familiar
with
that
and
they
have
allocated
resources.
They
put
more
resources
on
now
with
that
said
by
nature.
In
that
we
talked
about
the
difficulties
of
contract.
We're
spread
out.
There's
in
mr.
Q
Q
Are
you
proposing
enough
resources
to
on
a
continuous
basis,
provide
service
levels
where
they
need
to
be,
and
we
have?
We
have
seen
a
re
in
Buncombe
County,
Solid
Waste
for
a
substantial
increase
as
far
as
service
quality,
I
would
say,
and
an
example
of
that
in
this
year,
just
looking
at
2019
with
thirty
one
thousand
four
hundred
and
twelve
subscribers.
You
know
that
sets
in
the
range
over
the
three
months
January
to
March.
That's
that's
around
650,000
service.
Q
That
means
we've
had
thirteen
complaints
on
the
books,
so
that
gives
a
broad
picture
of
how
Weis
pro
has
invested
in
getting
better
and
I
feel
like
they
have
continued
that
through
this
proposal,
it's
it's
dip.
It's
it's
not
set
up
the
way
that
it
is
now
we're
looking
at
automated,
which
we
have
to
have
that
in
containers.
We're
looking
at
you
know
incorporating
different
things
that,
ultimately,
we
feel
like
gives
us
in
a
better
position
to
serve
citizens.
Q
B
Q
And
those
are
things
that
we've
incorporated
in
the
different
months
is
contractor
provided
corpse
and
when
you
see
the
price
breakdown,
that
is,
that
capital
investment
at
$50,
a
cart,
31,000
folks,
trashing
a
recycled,
that's
a
big
invest
so,
but
but
we
again,
we
feel
like
moving
forward.
That's
going
to
be
the
best
way
when
you
look
at
a
stack
of
trash
piled
up
from
here
over
the
table
and.
B
E
B
B
Q
Is
a
communication?
Look
as
a
transition
plan
voiced
Pro
on
their
proposal
did
a
good
job,
saying:
okay,
just
because
it's
the
same
colors
we
have
now
it
will
be
a
substantial
transition,
because
when
you
go
from
folks
being
used
to
10
years
of
just
bringing
their
bag
down
to
the
end
of
the
street
and
dropping
it
off
with
a
blue
bag,
now
you've
got
the
car.
Some
folks
will
like
that
some
folks
will
have
to
educate
it
help
understand.
You
know.
Why
would.
B
Q
Q
Lot
about
that
and
I
really
can't
say
exactly
I'm
sure
there
are
a
lot
of
factors.
Some
of
the
feedback
I've
got
from
haulers
is
in
the
big
folks
that
they
felt
they
were.
They
feel
kind
of
awesome
in
a
number
as
high
as
they
felt
like
he
was
going
to
beat
that
make
the
capital
investment
get
here.
It's.
Q
The
trucks-
it's
not
just
the
containers,
it's
the
fact
of
we
would
want
to
see
trucks
housed
in
a
facility-
that's
indoors
a
maintenance
facility
that
they
can
continue
to
upkeep
these
vehicles.
So
it's
a
lot
more
than
just
saying,
provide
the
trucks
which
is
a
huge
investment
itself.
So
to
me
that
was
a
key
piece.
Was
you
know,
being
able
to
get
here
and
implement
a
plan
to
be
set
up
to
to
collect
this
and
also
again,
margins
are
thin
they're.
Q
B
Q
Q
Q
Sir
yeah
and
that's
something
that's
something
important
is,
and
thank
you
for
that.
They
will
be
a
penalty
schedule
involved
in
that
and
that
all
ties
into
technology,
service,
verification
and
making
sure
that
we
hold
the
contractor
accountable.
On
the
other
end
of
that,
we
don't
want
to
say:
okay,
here's
a
contract
you're
over
here
go,
do
it,
we
want
to
be
involved
and
we
want
to
help
educate
the
public,
and
we
want
to
understand
what
the
issues
are.
Q
B
B
Scores
and
you
subtract
the
detractors
think
about
those
ones.
The
ones
will
do
the
emails.
19
won't
do
an
email,
that's
true.
I'll.
Do
an
email,
yeah,
I'm
gonna
talk
about
trash
they're,
not
even
gonna
talk
they're,
putting
it
out.
It's
going.
It's
either
they're
going
to
email,
commissioners,
they
gonna
call
the
paper,
and
so
on
so
forth,
though
they
just
need
to
look
at.
How
are
they
going
to
deal
with?
Those
are
called
detractors.
Are
they
going
to
deal
with
those
that
are
actually
causing
the
damage
in
the
community.
B
A
We're
about
about
15
minutes,
past
time
we
were
going
to
join
so
a
superstar,
your
phone.
We
were
at
time
whenever
you,
so
this
is
important
topic.
So
I
guess
it
sounds
like
staff
are
asking
its
just
move
forward
with
the
negotiation
process,
so
not
make
any
decision
on
this.
But
just
you
know
what
the
process
is
going
forward
here.
So
do
many
commissioners
I,
have
any
questions
or
concerns
about
recommendation.
A
You
know
I
mean
I'll,
say
I'm
more
Simon
I
mean
I
was
hoping.
We
were
gonna
get
a
bunch
of
offers
and
you
know
be
able
to
really
look
at
the
pros
and
cons
of
these.
So
it's
it's
disappointing
that
we
only
have
the
one.
You
know
there's
been
just
a
lot
of
problems
with
this,
and
but
we
have
to
make
a
decision
and
I
think
we
have.
A
A
B
We
had
I
think
they
understand
that,
and
we
made
it
now
before
Wow.
It
is
if
they
they
come
into
the
contract
now
and
there
are
certain
times
that
they
can't
do
stuff.
Then
we
got
a
break
some
of
these
small
services
that
we
have
here
in
the
county,
utilize
them
in
certain
areas
that
we
have
to.
So
we
don't
do
that
in
this
position
again.
O
A
Know,
I
I
really
I'm
open
to
negotiating
but
I'm
open
to
that
negotiation.
I
mean
it
needs
to
be
a
good
contractor.
We
shouldn't
do
it
we've
I
guess
we
could
always
just
extend
out
a
little
bit
longer,
so
if
we
can
get
it
to
a
good
place,
okay,
but
if
we
can't
get
it
to
a
good
place,
we
can't
force
it
so.