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Pre-Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners' from Dec. 17, 2019.
A
There
any
questions
from
any
commissioners
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
or
any
additional
items
that
anyone
would
like
to
add
to
the
agenda
all
right,
great.
Well.
The
first
item
up
is
the
tobacco
ordinance
proposal
proposed
amendments
and
authorization
of
study
committee
and
Stoney
Blevins.
It's
gonna
help
us
out
with
this
item.
B
Good
afternoon,
commissioners
actually
bring
this
matter
before
you
on
behalf
of
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Board
on
their
November
22nd
meeting.
They
voted
16200
to
bring
two
recommendations
to
the
commissioners
for
consideration
regarding
vaping,
and
you
have
some
information
there
in
the
first
paragraph
of
the
letter
just
about
some
of
the
serious
health
concerns
we're
seeing
around
vaping,
not
just
in
North
Carolina,
but
nationwide,
we're
seeing
a
rash
of
deaths
and
we've
certainly
seen
folks
hospitalized.
B
That
mission
with
serious
complications
related
to
vaping
over
the
last
year
and
also
we're
seeing
a
tremendous
rise
in
our
school-age
population
coming
quite
an
issue
there,
and
so
really.
The
recommendations
are
twofold.
One
is
that
we
include
vaping
in
our
county
ordinances
around
places
that
we
can
and
cannot
smoke
so
that
we
consider
that
a
form
of
nicotine
use
and
don't
allow
vaping
where
we
don't
allow
smoking,
also
that
we
change
the
personnel
ordinance
so
that
this
also
applies
to
staff.
B
So,
right
now
for
staff
member
1
to
vape
in
a
County
vehicle,
they
could
there
really
wouldn't
be
anything
in
our
ordinance.
That
would
say
that
was
not
allowed
and
then
the
second
recommendation
really
from
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Board,
is
just
to
maybe
do
a
longer
term.
You
know
more
in-depth
study
of
what
should
our
County's
tobacco
use
policies.
B
Should
this
scope
be
expanded
to
places
like
greenways
and
other
public
spaces
like
that
signage?
Do
we
have
the
right
signage?
You
know
it's
it's
a
little
old
as
well,
and
so
if
the
Commission
were
to
you
know
actually
either
one
of
those.
Certainly
our
department
would
be
more
than
willing
to
step
up
and
be
a
resource
to
the
Commission.
C
B
Really,
don't
that's
a
really
good
question
and
I
certainly
wouldn't
put
myself
out
there.
As
the
vaping
expert
I
mean
it
is
a
legal
I
mean
it's
a
legal
substance.
Just
like
cigarettes
are
illegal
substance.
It's
just
that.
You
know.
When
vaping
first
came
out,
it
was
actually
seen
as
possibly
a
way
to
help
you
come
off
of
cigarettes,
and
if
you
read
the
CDC
website,
they
still
suggest
there's
a
small
segment
of
the
population
where
vaping
right
actually
might
be
a
help
to
them.
B
So
if
you're
doing
it
correctly
and
as
prescribed,
it
might
be
better
for
you
than
smoking
a
whole
lot
of
cigarettes.
What
we're
seeing
as
folks
are
vaping
things
that
probably
should
not
be
going
into
their
body.
That's
where
we're
seeing
I
think
a
lot
of
these
deaths.
Certain
chemicals
are
getting
in
their
bodies.
People
are
beginning
to
vape
CBD
oil.
We
see
for
a
while.
We
thought
that
was
the
culprit
for
a
lot
of
the
hospitalizations,
because
it
was
showing
up
in
some
of
the
toxicology
so
really
I.
Think
like
for
years.
B
You
know
you're,
you
know.
I
grew
up
in
North
Carolina.
Everybody
smoked
when
I
was
a
kid.
Nobody
knew
it
would
hurt
you
when
I
was
a
little
kid
and
I
think
the
more
we
learned.
We
realized
that
you
know,
I
won't
just
hurt,
you
it'll
kill
you
and
then
secondhand
smoke
is
dangerous
and
I
think
we're
just
getting
to
the
point
where
the
research
is
really
coming
out.
B
A
All
right,
commissioners,
any
other
feedback
we
want
to
share
at
this
time.
Well,
I
appreciate
this
being
looked
at,
I
mean
I'm.
Certainly
supportive
of
you
know
reviewing
the
policies
and
updating
them
and
I
think
the
county's
traditionally
try
to
be
kind
of
a
leader
in
this
area
and
I
think
we
should
continue
to
try
to
do
that
so
I'm,
certainly
supportive
of
looking
at
all
these
questions.
Mr.
B
A
C
D
All
right
we'll
go
ahead
and
start.
The
presentation
y'all
may
have
to
remind
me
that
I'm
clicking
on
the
wrong
one
as
I
go
through
mine,
so
I
can
see
where
we're
at
so
this
is
just
to
bring
you
up
to
date,
I'm
on
our
Greenway
projects
overall
and
to
also
bring
you
up
to
date
with
some
specific
specificity
on
the
Woodfin
project.
D
First,
we're
gonna
talk
about
the
Greenway
master
plan.
We're
gonna
go
through
what
what
it
takes
to
go
from
conception
to
construction,
look
at
what
areas
were
prioritizing
and
where
our
focus
is
from
a
geographical
perspective
and
then
look
at
the
project
probability
and
status
review.
So
basically,
where
we're
at
with
each
project.
After
that,
we'll
transition
from
an
overall
concept,
conceptual
review
to
the
woodland
Greenway
project
status,
update
looking
at
the
Woodfin
high
50
highway,
251
Greenway,
as
well
as
the
beaver
dam
Creek
Greenway.
D
So
our
Greenway
master
plan,
which
was
adopted
in
2012,
includes
102
miles
of
collective
Greenway
corridors
when
it
was
adopted,
it
included
no
dedicated
funding
and
it
seeks
a
variety
of
funding
from
whatever
sources
we
can
get
money
from
essentially
to
date
that
has
largely
been
federal.
Highway
administration's
surface
block
transportation,
program
or
surface
block
transportation
grant
program
and
we've
been
able
to
construct
0.4
miles
of
Greenway
to
date.
That's
down
south
and
Lake
Julian.
It's
the
connector
between
the
Lake
Julian
Park
and
the
lake
Julian
Park
connector.
D
I
think
our
biggest
take
away
with
greenways
as
we've
developed
a
department
developed.
Our
approach
is
that
greenways
take
a
lot
longer
than
we
originally
anticipated,
both
from
an
obtaining
funding
perspective,
a
regulatory
perspective
and
just
the
immense
amount
of
work
that
it
takes
to
build
a
Greenway.
We
start
out
with
the
master
plan,
that's
where
we
started
prior
to
2012.
From
that
master
plan,
we
transition
into
what
is
called
a
feasibility
study.
This
feasibility
studies
give
us
a
very
high-level
and.
D
View
of
whether
a
particular
Greenway
segment
can
work
and
it
starts
to
filter
out
some
of
the
high-level
cost.
It's
not
an
effective
tool
for
making
cost
up
to
estimations,
but
as
an
effective
tool
for
us
to
make
decisions
as
to
whether
or
not
we're
gonna
go
further
in
the
Greenway
design.
Once
we
make
that
decision,
we
go
into
preliminary
preliminary
design
and
engineering
for
the
project.
D
That
process
can
take
one
to
two
years
plus
and
that
allows
us
to
have
a
finite
path
to
the
Greenway
understand
where
the
Greenway
is
going
to
go,
what
property
owners
aren't
gonna
involve
and
what
our
regulatory
issues
are
from
that
we
can
go
into
land
acquisition.
Land
acquisition
is
simply
acquiring
all
the
easements
and
the
property.
We
need
to
construct
the
Greenway,
making
sure
that
we
have
a
clear
path.
Alignment.
D
One
thing
to
note
there
is
that,
under
the
original
adoption
of
the
Greenway
master
plan,
one
thing
that
we
are
restricted
from
using
is
the
power
combination
to
build
a
Greenway
segment.
So
acquisition
for
us
is
an
important
step
and
there
are
often
times
when
we
may
have
to
go
back
to
design
and
redesign
a
segment
of
the
Greenway
if
we're
not
able
to
acquire
property
voluntarily
from
the
property
owner.
Once
we
get
from
acquisition,
we
moved
to
construction
again.
D
That
process
can
take
anywhere
from
a
year
to
two
years,
depending
on
the
length
of
Greenway
that
we're
looking
at,
but
then
we
can
actually
walk
on
the
Greenway.
One
thing
that
I
try
to
let
the
advocacy
groups
understand
about
greenways
is
even
if
someone
were
to
give
us
a
million
dollars,
two
million
dollars
with
a
cache.
It
would
still
take
that
five
to
up
to
ten
years
to
actually
construct
the
Greenway,
because
of
all
the
steps
that
we
need
to
go
through
to
do
it.
D
It
gets
even
more
cumbersome
if
we're
using
money
that
comes
from
the
federal
government
or
the
state
government,
because
just
continues
to
add
the
right
to
the
regulations
that
we
have
to
meet
in
order
to
go
to
construction
as
we've
laid
out.
Our
approach
to
Greenway
it's
102
miles
is
a
lot
of
green
weight
to
cover
very
financially
expensive
and
not
altogether
economically
feasible,
with
our
we're
trying
to
fight
off
so
much
at
once.
So
we
focused
our
Greenway
effort
on
the
I
26
in
French
Broad
corridor.
D
The
largest
reason
for
that
is
that
gave
us
projects
to
focus
on
that
would
prioritize
very
well
during
grant
funding
cycles,
and
it
also
allowed
us
to
align
with
the
efforts
of
other
municipalities.
So
by
choosing
the
I
26
corridor,
we
were
basically
able
to
take
our
Greenway
efforts
and
go
from
the
north
and
south
of
the
city
of
Asheville
and
connect
into
all
their
work
on
greenways,
which
creates
a
longer
contiguous
stretch
of
Greenway
for
our
citizens
to
enjoy
once
it's
fully
realized.
D
D
So
something
that's
got
a
high,
probably
the
probability
of
completion.
Typically,
we
have
the
funding
source
for
the
next
phase
identified.
It
will
make
significant
advances
in
our
Greenway
system
from
a
connectivity
standpoint
and
we
may
be
facing
having
to
send
some
grant
funds
back
because
of
prior
agreements.
We've
made
medium
probability
of
completion.
That
means
that
we
think
we
know
where
to
get
the
funding
from
construction.
What
interface
with
our
larger
Greenway
network
and
we
anticipate
having
to
send
funds
back
to
a
granting
institution
within
five
years
low?
Is
that
we've
gotten?
D
No
funding
sources
identified,
our
construction
cost
exceed
our
current
budgetary
capacity
and
we
don't
have
any
pressure
to
have
to
send
any
funds
back
any
point
in
the
near
future.
So
these
are
our
high
probability
of
completion.
Greenways
that
we've
got
I
will
start
with
the
Inka
Heritage
Trail,
since
we're
gonna
spend
more
time
on
the
other
segments,
but
the
Inka
Heritage
Trail
it's
about
a
two
mile
section
out
in
Inka.
It's
part
of
the
Inka
recreation
destination.
D
It'll
connect
our
work
at
the
Buncombe
County
Sports
Park
to
the
ongoing
work
at
the
Bob
Lewis
ball
fields.
We
currently
have
the
request
for
qualifications
and
letter
of
interest
issued
for
that
project
and
we've
started
receiving
responses
for
it,
and
we
expect
to
begin
design
in
the
first
quarter
of
2020
and
have
the
engineer
design
by
2021
any
questions
there.
D
D
The
biggest
constraint
that
we're
gonna,
hit
with
Inka
heritage
trail
is
making
sure
that
we've
satisfied
all
the
federal
agencies
and
the
requirements
they
have
four
core
engineers
and
FEMA,
and
we
do
also
have
some
cultural
resources
in
the
area
that
we're
gonna
have
to
take
into
account
as
well.
But.
D
F
F
Some
additional
players
to
bring
to
the
table
on
that.
We
don't
anticipate
a
huge
problem
with
that,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
get
army-corps
approvals
to
put
the
Greenway
on
top
of
that
berm
and
to
work
with
Dominion
gas
to
make
sure
that
we
can
have
the
Greenway
on
top
of
where
they're
putting
that
underground.
So.
D
Part
of
that
is
just
looking
for
that
level
of
specificity
in
terms
of
what
the
actual
layout
will
be
of
the
Greenway.
We
have
it
from
a
conceptual
standpoint,
but
that's
just
putting
a
line
on
aerial
photograph.
We're
gonna
be
narrowing
that
down
to
where
we
can
locate
exactly
where
it's
gonna
go
within
a
30
foot
easement,
and
what
our
additional
construction
needs
are.
D
C
C
My
understanding
is,
this
was
pretty
much
ready
to
go,
and
so
they
had
all
the
agreements
were
signed.
I'm
not
talking
about
federal
I'm
talking
about
local
everything's
done
pretty
much
done
and
there
were
you
know
we
got
our
grants
and
we're
gonna
put
on
the
gas
and
to
me
this
looked
like
an
easy
one
to
get
done
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
hearing
that
no.
D
C
D
I
think
speeding
it
up
is
gonna
come
and
how
effectively
we
deal
with
the
the
design
and
construction
process.
When
we
have
communicated
with
firms
about
how
we're
going
to
handle
requests
for
qualifications,
we
left
it
relatively
open-ended
in
terms
of
our
schedule
and
I've.
Let
them
know
that
we
expect
this
to
be
an
expedited
schedule
compared
to
what
we
would
normally
seal
in
some
of
our
my
projects.
D
We've
got
the
Beaver
Dam
Creek
Greenway
at
the
northern
side
of
the
map.
We've
got
engineering
and
design
set
to
commence
on
that
project
in
2020
and
I
won't
spend
much
time
on
that
because
we'll
go
into
more
detail
as
we
miss
the
presentation,
the
same
with
Riverside
Greenwood
Riverside,
Drive
Greenway.
We
have
design
under
way
we've
completed
30%
of
the
design
and
we're
gonna
get
into
some
of
the
issues
that
I've
helped
design
back
there
further
in
this
presentation,
and
then
we
have
the
rad
tip
connector,
which
we
spoke
about
it.
D
D
So
move
it
into
our
greenways
with
medium
probability
of
completion.
We
have
the
191
corridor
and
the
Bing
Creek
Lake
Julian
Greenway
we
partnered
with
North
Carolina
DDOT,
as
they
were,
assessing
the
expansion
of
I-26
through
this
area
and
we're
able
to
get
them
to
foot
the
bill
for
the
feasibility
studies
along
this
corridor.
We've
got
these
projects
entered
in
North,
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation's
State
Transportation
Improvement
Project,
so
they
are
waiting
for
funding,
but
it
is
a
pretty
intensive
construction
quarter
with
about
13
plus
miles
of
remaining
way
to
go
to
construction.
D
So
this
is
one
where
we've
identified
the
basic
needs
beyond
a
master
plan
level,
and
we
know
where
we
need
to
go
with
the
Greenway.
It's
just.
We
need
to
find
some
funding
commit
to
funding
and
move
it
forward,
but
it's
sitting
there
on
the
back
burnin,
so
we
can
advance
some
of
our
other
high
probability
projects
Ford.
So
many
questions
there
and
we've
got
to
low-probability
greenways
one
is
the
reims
Creek
Greenway
we've
actually
advanced
that
to
engineering
and
design
we're
working
on
getting
an
RFQ
issued.
D
The
reason
that
we
have
it
as
a
low
probability
of
construction
is.
We
do
not
have
any
funding
identified
for
it.
It's
largely
within
the
town
limits
of
Louisville,
so
we'd
be
looking
for
some
new
funding
partnerships
to
bring
that
Greenway
to
construction.
We
are
advancing
it
to
design
so
we'll
have
further
information
about
in
cost
and
we
do
have
a
federal
highway
surface
transportation,
Block
Grant
programs
available
to
help
us
with
that.
Again
we
don't
have
information
or
funding
sources
identified
for
construction
yet
and.
D
We've
not
started
engagement.
We
have
to
be
careful
with
how
we
engage
property
owners
because
of
some
of
the
federal
regulations
out
there.
We,
when
we
engage
design,
we
will
go
to
property
owners
that
we
feel
like
will
be
impacted
and
ask
them
to
sign
a
letter
of
commitment,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
we
use
federal
funds,
we
also
have
to
show
that
the
the
landowner
knew
that
they
could
achieve
fair
market
value
for
the
easement
or
the
property,
and
so
we
typically
wait
to
execute.
Ok.
A
So
understanding
that
process
on
this
project
is
that
is
the
right
of
way
for
the
easement.
Seen
as
you
know,
likely
to
be
fairly
doable
or
quite
a
challenge.
I
mean
I,
guess
the
reason
I
asking
is
that
for
these
a
lot
of
these
projects,
where
you've
got
a
lot
of
different
landowners
who
need
to
all
agree-
and
maybe
there's
some
workarounds,
if
someone
doesn't
I
mean
it
to
me,
it
just
seems
like
a
huge
potential
barrier
and
for
some
of
the
project
since
I'm.
A
D
Less
than
moderate
I
mean
okay,
you're,
also
building
right
next
to
the
creek,
which
is
gonna,
have
a
lot
of
undeveloped,
ol
or
undesirable
property.
So,
in
context
like
that,
it's
a
little
bit
easier
to
navigate
the
easements
and
right
away.
We
do
have
some
room
in
the
project
to
move
the
alignment
if
we
need
to
we're
not
as
constrained
on
other
projects,
so
this
one's
not
gonna,
be
as
hemmed
in
as
some
of
the
projects
they're
like
the
woodland
project
that
have
other
constraints
that
are
feeding
into
it
and
then
the
u.s.
D
70
Greenway
this
actually
overlaps
with
the
fonta
flora
trail
the
Commission
approved
to
overlap
our
Greenway
system
with
the
fonta
flora
State
Trail
several
years
ago.
It's
an
effort
that
we're
pursuing,
but
it's
also
a
pretty
expensive
effort,
given
how
much
land
that
we're
looking
at
in
Buncombe
County
for
that
trail
to
traverse
we're
looking
at
about
16
miles
of
trail.
If
we
follow
the
current
alignment,
so
it's
there
we're
looking
for
funding
we're
also
looking
at
how
we
can
break
that
Greenway
down
further
into
more
digestible
chunks.
D
So
the
witch
in
Greenway
collectively
is
five
miles
of
Greenway.
It's
currently
programmed
in
two
projects,
one
for
the
beaver
dam,
Creek
Greenway
and
one
for
the
Riverside
Drive
/
251
Greenway.
Each
segment
was
part
of
our
gleaned
way
master
plan
in
2012.
It
was
also
a
part
of
woodlands,
Greenway
master
plan
in
2011.
D
I've
got
some
more
detailed
information
on
the
Riverside
Drive
Greenway,
it's
a
three
mile
corridor.
We
anticipate
the
cost
of
construction
to
now
be
around
2.5
million
dollars
a
mile.
That's
what
our
current
regional
average
is
is
going
for.
We
anticipate
it
to
be
through
with
design
already,
but
this
project
is
kind
of
drug
out
due
to
some
regulatory
issues
and
trying
to
secure
some
of
the
the
easements
and
right
away
which
we
have
move
forward
with,
but
we
did
encounter
some
constraints
that
delayed
that
project
more
heavily
than
we
anticipated.
D
We
currently
have
grant
funding
total
for
this
project
of
three
point:
six:
six
million
three
million
is
for
the
construction
of
the
Greenway.
Six
hundred
sixty
thousand
is
for
the
design
and
I'll
break
those
figures
down
a
little
bit
as
there
are
some
figures
that
involve
County
matches
as
well.
We
do
have
some
terrain
difficulties
as
we
go.
There
I
think
we've
identified
over
150,
plus
stream
out
Falls,
where
we
have
pipes
going
across
the
embankment
out
into
the
stream.
D
The
Beaver,
Dam
Creek
Greenway,
is
another
two
mile
segment.
This
goes
from
MSDS
administrative
facility
and
follows
the
Beaver
Dam
Creek
and
comes
out
near
the
train
depot
for
craggy
Mountain
rail
line
on
your
Merriman
Avenue.
We
also
just
embossed
a
construction
for
this
Greenway
to
be
around
2.25
a
mile
we've
seared
right
now
we
have
two
million
dollars
for
construction
secured.
We
also
have
some
additional
funding
for
design
that
we
anticipate
receiving
that.
That
figure
is
about
two
hundred
twenty
thousand
for
the
design.
You.
D
And
that's
that's
based
on
looking
at
projects
and
cost
overruns
around
the
region.
D
D
That
one's
fortunate,
because
we
are
dealing
with
fewer
landowners
and
we
may
be
able
to
capture
some
of
those
synergies
with
utilities
where
we
can
go
straight
over
the
top
of
existing
utility
right
aways
and
that's
not
something
that
we
have
available
and
some
of
these
other
projects.
If
we
can
do
that,
it
dramatically
decreases
our
cost
of
design
and
construction,
because
we're
dealing
with
a
more
level
pad
that
we
can
start
from
it.
A
Just
you
know,
I
mean
it.
Just
intuitively
seems
like
the
project
through
the
years
you're
saying
that's
the
average
we're
just
assuming
for
every
mile.
It's
not
specific
I
mean
just
intuitively
like
building
the
project
through
that
kind
of
urbanized
tight
footprint
in
wood
fin
along
the
river
I
mean
I
can
just
see
how
that
would
be
really
complicated
for
a
bunch
of
different
reasons,
but
these
projects,
like
this
one
that
are
kind
of
more
out
in
the
country,
I,
don't
know
it
just
seems
like
they
would
be.
A
D
And
one
of
the
historic
problems
with
building
greenways
in
this
area
is
under
estimating
what's
underground.
That's
that's
always
been
an
issue
is
once
you
start
digging,
you
might
find
old
cars
any
amount
of
landfills
and
we
are
running
through
some
of
that
stuff,
with
Beaver
Dam
Creek,
where
we
anticipate
we're
gonna
hit
some
segments
of
that.
We
also
have
a
rail
line
that
runs
parallel
to
the
Greenway,
we're
running
next
to
a
creek
and
we're
running
pre
adjacent
to
some
old
landfill
area.
C
Does
it
makes
it
may
not
even
be
doable
I
mean?
Does
it
make
sense
to
concentrate
our
efforts
on
the
easiest
to
achieve
and
just
throw
everything
at
it
to
get
it
done
quicker
or
I
mean
cuz
I
mean
I.
Look
at
the
whole
plan
and
it's
you
know.
Four
tenths
of
a
mile
has
been
done
since
it
was
adopted
in
2012,
and
so
it's
obviously
taking
a
lot
longer
than
people
think
right.
D
Well,
we
have
to
remember
that
we
didn't
dedicate
any
funding
until
2015,
so
that
significantly
delayed
our
construction
timelines
and
then
once
we
began
to
get
funding,
we
started
out.
I
want
to
say
in
the
hundreds,
like
small
hundreds
of
thousand,
that
allowed
us
to
start
pursuing
grants,
but
a
lot
of
those
grants
won't
we
we
pursue
them.
E
D
Two
years
out,
so
we're
basically
still
caught
in
that
original
lag
time
dumping.
All
the
efforts
in
one
Greenway
project
is
not
necessarily
going
to
speed
us
up,
because
one
of
the
things
that
slows
us
down
is
the
number
of
coordinating
entities
like
anytime.
We
move
money
for
this
project
any
time
we
hire
for
this
project.
It's
got
to
get
approved
by
state
and
federal
agencies,
and
so
that
that
significantly
slows
us
down.
D
If
we
were
to
look
at
using
non
restricted
funding
sources,
we
could
dramatically
speed
up
the
cost
of
Greenway
construction,
but
that
being
we've
be
coming
out
of
pocket
a
hundred
percent
of
the
cost.
Once
you
federalize
a
project
and
apply
federal
dollars,
you
completely
change.
The
regulatory
landscape
has.
A
D
Are
some
conversations
occurring
with
that?
A
lot
of
it
is
more
linked
in
to
what
conversations
can
we
have
with
developers
during
the
developer
development
approval
process?
Can
we
create
some
of
those
green
wait'
linkages
that
way
and
require
Greenway
dedication
as
part
of
large
development
construction
projects,
and
then,
at
that
point,
that's
that's
one
mechanism
to
find
some
funding
there.
It's
a
date
I've
not
seen
anybody.
D
D
D
The
reason
this
is
why
we
use
federal
funding,
as
we
started
out
with
a
one
point:
one:
three
million
dollar
local
funding;
commitment
for
both
design
and
construction.
We
partnered
with
FHWA
that
brought
in
four
point
five:
three
million
for
a
total
of
five
point:
six:
six
million
on
the
total
project;
and
that's
not
including
TDA
funds
or
the
the
funding
for
the
other
components.
The
Woodfin
project.
C
D
D
And
I've
just
got
some
shots
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
we're
trying
to
work
with
in
the
area.
This
is
the
Millett
Riverside
studio,
one
of
the
issues
that
we
have
there's
you
can
see
how
far
the
pavement
extends
towards
the
riverbank
they've
been
exceptional
to
work
with,
but
it's
not
just
a
typical
Greenway
design,
we're
having
to
figure
out
how
to
integrate
current
parking
areas,
retaining
walls
out
there
at
MSDS
equipment,
storage,
yard
and
other
issues
in
order
to
get
the
Greenway
through
there.
D
D
This
is
another
issue
that
we
ran
into
on
the
backside
of
Silverline
plastics.
We
have
a
dupe
transmission
line
that
typically
they
won't
allow
us
to
be
within
30
feet
of
their
poles.
When
we
examined
that,
we
originally
looked
at
some
cantilever
ring
structures
that
would
go
out
over
the
French
Broad
River
in
order
to
get
us
out
of
the
LaDuke
right
aways
and
after
looking
at
the
cost
and
assessing
the
cost,
we're
able
to
go
back
with.
D
Do
you
can
ask
them
for
some
exceptions,
which
they've
been
willing
to
work
with
us
on,
to
be
able
to
put
the
greenways
closer
to
those
poles?
It's
not
without
its
some
additional
design
costs
and
some
fencing
structures
and
some
other
things
that
we
have
to
do.
But
working
through
solutions
like
this
have
dramatically
increased
our
design
cost,
hopefully,
and
allowing
us
to
reduce
our
construction
cost
in
the
long
run.
A
D
Yeah
and
it's
all
it's
a
three-way
agreement
with
Silver
Line
plastics
as
well,
because
they've
got
to
make
some
concessions
for
where
they're,
allowing
us
to
cite
that
Greenway-
and
these
are
the
other
design
considerations,
there's
how
close
we
are
to
the
rail
line,
the
power
line,
the
road
and
the
train
line.
Fortunately,
craggy
Mountain
rail
line
is
not
a
conventional
rail
line.
It's
one
that's
privately
owned.
D
And
the
the
blue
lines
that
you
can
see,
there
just
show
the
amount
of
property
that's
impacted
by
both
FEMA
floodplain
and
FEMA
flood
way.
One
of
the
things
that
drives
cost
on
a
project
like
this
is
since
we
can't
just
move
the
project
out
of
the
flood
way
without
having
to
do
no
rice
studies,
an
additional
engineering
studies
to
show
that
the
screen
way
is
not
going
to
have
an
impact
on
Asheville's
overall
flooding.
D
So
our
status
with
a
woodland
project
right
now,
the
design
for
the
river
side
drive
within
Greenway,
is
at
30%.
The
project
is
part
of
a
larger
destination
project,
similar
to
what
we
organized
with
the
Inca
Recreation
recreation
destination.
That
includes
Silver
Line
Park,
which
is
currently
under
design,
the
Woodfin
wave,
which
is
a
structure
across
the
entire
French
Broad
River,
to
create
some
water
sports
tourism
and
the
woodland
wave
park,
which
will
be
the
amenities
to
support
that
way
of
structure,
we're
the
lead
agency
working
with
several
partners.
E
D
At
a
million
dollars
per
mile,
the
feasibility
study
that
we
originally
engaged
for
this
project
actually
put
construction
at
in
the
hundreds
of
thousand
a
mile
when
we
went
to
construction
and
started
doing
our
initial
investigation
of
grants,
we
base
that
on
regional
figures
and
elevated
that
significantly
to
a
million
dollars
a
mile.
But
at
that
point
there
still
was
not
a
lot
of
regional
context
in
terms
of
Greenway
construction.
It
was
after
we
saw
a
new
belgium
constructed
and
some
of
the
other
projects
hit
significant
cost
over.
D
So
we
went
back
and
adjusted
our
figures
a
second
time.
The
current
Greenway
cost
of
escalated
to
that
2.5
million
dollars
a
mile
right
now,
that's
based
on
our
regional
figures
and
our
engineering
and
design
efforts
have
been
complicated
by
the
regulatory
requirements.
We're
dealing
with
some
pre
Portland
quality
in
that
area.
There
are
areas
that
we
found
that
we're
gonna
have
to
remove
soils,
augment
soils,
remove
debris
and
do
a
lot
of
ground
preparation
work
that
we
did
not
originally
anticipate.
We
have
some
issues
with
land
owner
preferences
as
well.
We
offer
A's.
D
We've
got
some
issues
where
we
could
be
out
back
next
to
the
river.
The
landowner
doesn't
support
that,
and
so
we're
gonna
have
to
take
that
section,
a
green
way
I'm
out
in
front
of
the
building.
Unless
that
landowner
changes
their
mind,
it's
taken
longer
than
anticipated
for
the
utility
coordination,
even
in
coordinating
with
the
railroad
just
to
get
a
permit
to
cross
railroad
a
lot
of
times
we're
looking
at
a
three
to
four
months
approval
period
and
that's
not
with
construction.
That's
to
get
our
people
across
the
railroad.
D
We've
got
historical,
environmental
damage
and
degradation.
We've
encountered
pretty
much
everything
we
could
along
that
section
of
Greenway.
That's
not
something
that
we
didn't
anticipate.
It's
just
given
us
a
lot
to
work
with
in
terms
of
how
we
accommodate
those
issues
for
design,
and
then
we
have
the
transportation
constraints
with
the
road
being
so
close
to
the
river
there.
Our
ability
ability
to
advance
the
project
to
construction
is
somewhat
limited
because
of
some
capital
flows
that
we
have
with
the
project.
I'm
gonna
break
those
down
for
you.
D
So
in
breaking
that
three
point:
six
six
million
dollars
down
further
our
initial
design
grant
for
the
Greenway
was
six
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
for
the
Riverside
Drive
portion
of
the
Greenway
I
think
there's
been
a
conception
that
that
was
our
budget
for
the
project
and
the
reality
was
the
six
hundred.
Sixty
thousand
dollars
was
how
much
that
we
could
get
from
FHWA
when
we
made
the
application
and
maxing
that
application
out.
D
As
I
mentioned,
we've
got
a
variety
of
funding
sources
contained
within
the
project.
We've
got
the
whuppin
bond
coming
in
at
four
point:
five
million
we've
got
TDA
coming
in
with
a
2.25
million
dollar
contribution.
Fhwa
has
come
in
at
five
point.
One
and
Buck
encounters
commitment
at
this
point
is
one
point,
one
three:
two
million
in
order
to
satisfy
all
the
granting
regularly
our
granting
entities.
As
the
conclusion
of
this
project,
we
are
obligated
to
produce
both
the
Greenway
Silver
Line
park,
Riverside
Park
and
the
woods
and
whitewater
wave.
D
A
D
D
Thousand
or
six
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
and
design
our
current
estimated
design
cost
sits
at
one
point:
six,
one:
seven
million
dollars,
so
we've
got
a
major
deviation
there.
Our
current
construction
obligation
in
terms
of
bunkum
County's
pay
in
is
six
hundred
thousand
and
we'll
get
2.4
million
dollars
from
the
FHWA
for
a
total
of
a
three
million
dollar
construction
budget,
which
is
clearly
less
than
the
2.5
million
dollars
a
miles
that
we
need.
Our
estimated
construction
cost
of
this
point
exceeds
six
million
for
Beaver
Dam
Creek
Greenway.
D
D
And
these
numbers
are
laid-back
out.
The
one
that
I
want
to
focus
on
is
in
terms
of
consideration
for
action,
and
next
steps
is
that
we
look
at
in
order
to
advance
this
project
forward.
Currently
we're
kind
of
stuck
until
we
have
some
additional
capital
outlined
to
continue
doing
construction
as
of
right
now,
we've
spent
one
hundred
and
forty-one
thousand
dollars
of
our
six
hundred
and
thirty
two
thousand
dollars
or
six
hundred
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
that
design.
D
But
in
order
to
advance
the
design
to
completion
and
to
be
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
get
to
completion,
we
need
that
nine
hundred
and
fifty
eight
thousand
dollar
deficit
right
now
we're
stuck
between
continuing
to
advance
the
design
and
running
out
once
we've
got
the
money.
While
we
spent
seize
the
money
that
we
have
on
hand.
A
A
So
you
know
I'm
definitely
in
favor-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
I
mean
this
is
a
complex
project.
You
know,
I
mean
just
going
down
the
arm.
You
the
layperson
standpoint.
It's
it's
a
tight
footprint.
You
know,
there's
all
these
different
things
going
on
down
there.
It's
a
busy
busy
area
of
it,
I
think
I
mean
I,
think
the
would
fin
the
this,
especially
the
corridor
along
the
river.
A
This
will
be
one
of
the
best
projects
we
have
it'll,
be
so
heavily
utilized
once
it's
built,
I'm
definitely
favor
of
doing
what
we
can
to
continue
the
design
process
on
it,
including
shifting
some
money
from
construction
to
design
on
this
project.
But
I
guess
I
would
also
just
kind
of
raise
the
question
of
ii
mean.
I
I'd
like
the
idea
that
we're
planning
some
other
things
that
are
further
out,
but
just
in
thinking
about
this
I
mean
I.
Think
there's
also
just
we
just
need
to
get
some
of
these
done
right.
E
A
A
A
Comes
in
maybe
it
comes
in
less
less
costly
than
what's
typical
because
of
the
topography.
Everything
but
I
mean
I
would
also
be
open
to
redirecting
some
resources
from
other
projects.
To
just
make
sure
this
one
is
this
one
is
getting
done
so
so.
C
I'm
kind
of
in
a
similar
way,
I
think
you
know
tonight
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
vote
on
something
else
that
you
know
it's
a
million
dollars
more.
You
know,
that's,
that's
tough!
We
got
to
explain
to
everybody.
That's
not
directly
to
us,
just
directed
in
general,
I
understand
what
you're
dealing
with,
but
also
think
that
when
you
know
when
you're
in
a
community
the-
and
you
hear
all
the
good
news
about
what's
happening-
I
mean
you
get
excited
about
it,
kids
get
excited
about
it
and
you
don't
want
them
to.
C
C
A
A
D
That
biggest
constraint,
there's
that
where,
when
you
look
at
Greenway
investment
like
off
the
cuff,
we've
got
about
21
million
dollars
in
federal
highway
grants
coming
down.
It's
a
4.2
million
dollar
County
commitment,
so
even
reallocating
those
is
not
gonna.
Get
us
the
capital
funding
that
we
need
in
order
to
advance
the
projects
we're
using
so
much
external
funding
compared
to
such
a
small
proportion
of
County
funding
and
that
just
kind
of
extends
how
long
it
takes
us
to
get
access
to
the
capital.
Yeah.
A
I
I
hear
that
I
hear
that
our
percentage
is
small
relative
to
that,
but
also
just
I
mean
if
all
these
projects
play
out
on
the
cost
that
you
have
I
mean
these.
Other
projects
aren't
going
they're,
not
gonna,
get
done
right,
because
the
very
reasons
you
just
explained
there's
not
enough
money
to
do
them
in
the
foreseeable
future.
So
I
realize,
like
our
money,
is
not
the
biggest
driver
in
this,
but
it
sounds
like
you
know.
A
We're
gonna
need
to
put
in
more
if
we
want
to
see
some
of
them
done
realistically
so
I'd
be
and
I'm
open
to
that
I'm.
Very
supportive
of
these
projects.
Moving
ahead
yeah,
it
sounds
like
if
we
did
do
some
redirecting
we'd
have
to
talk
to
TDA
about
like
hey.
Would
you
be
open
to
some
of
your
money
coming
over
here?
So
we
can
get
this
one
done.
I
bet
they
I
thought
they'd
be
open
to
that
conversation
because
they
want
to
see
things
get
done
too.
A
They
understand
some
of
these
projects
end
up
being
more
complicated
and
expensive
than
originally,
when
you
first
look
at
them,
but
anyway,
so
I'm
I,
think
I
think
we'd
have
to
talk
to
some
of
the
partners
to
about.
Maybe
would
they
be
open
to
that
as
well
as
well,
as
maybe
also
just
not
only
changing
the
funding
they
may
be.
Putting
in
more
more
money
to
I
mean
have
all
these
conversations
when.
D
It
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
beyond
Buncombe
County
at
a
regional
level,
because
we're
not
the
first
one
to
hit
an
issue
like
this,
with
federal
funding,
pretty
much
every
Greenway
project
that
I
know
of
that's
using
these
funding
streams
is
hitting
the
same
thing.
So
what
can
we
do
to
build
in
opportunities
for
overages
and
higher
contingencies?.
A
Well,
I
mean
the
projects
down
on
the
riverfront
in
Asheville,
ran
into
a
bunch
of
these
cost
overruns
to
their
credit.
To
their
credit,
you
know,
they've
been
they
take
a
lot
of
heat
for
different
things
and
they
can
move
it
to
their
credit.
The
TDA
stepped
in
and
just
they
have
four
million
more
dollars.
Maybe
there's
four
million
more
dollars
because
we
want
to
see
these
projects
happen
and
I.
Think
these
these
projects
were
working
on
in
Woodfin
are
very
are
very
similar.
I
mean
everyone.
A
C
You
know
drill
down
on
the
on
the
run
in
Inka.
You
know
really
specifics
on
what
we
can
do
to
just
speed
it
alone,
because
it's
part
of
the
Buncombe
County,
Sports,
Park
and
I.
Guess
that's
coming
along.
You
know
pretty
good.
You
know
the
lights
that
went
up
out
there
is
there
some
there's
some
things
that
you
know
that
we're
seeing
out
there
and
they
be.
It
would
be
really
good
for
us
to
be
able
to.
C
C
C
A
D
I
believe
our
total
funding
allocation
for
that
one
was
$400,000
over
three
years.
That
project
is
moving
forward.
They
hit
two
major
issues:
one
was
a
railroad
trestles
that
they
were
having
to
go
under
and
then
the
second
was
going
under
highway.
Nine,
there
and
I
believe
they've
actually
come
back
with
some
designs.
They're
gonna
be
much
more
advantageous
than
they
originally
pictured,
but
it's
just
back
up
and
going
to
federal
and
state
approvals
for
that.
Okay,.
D
A
All
for
your
time
today
appreciate
appreciate
everyone's
work
on
this.
All
right
next
up
is
Rachel
Nygaard.
Who
will
be
talking
about
these
strategic
partnership
grants
committee
I'm.
Sorry
next
up
is
the
green
waste
committee
still
on
that?
That's
us
all
right!
So
commissioners,
we
talked
about
our
last
meeting.
We
need
to
decide
who
we're
going
to
interview
so
I
think
you
know,
because
there's
a
ton
of
applicants,
25
total.
A
A
So
when
one
suggests
would
be
that
we
could
just
kind
of
go
around
each
person
nominate,
like
one
person
will
see
how
many
comes
out
of
the
first
round.
Cuz
I
think
we'll
have
a
lot
of
overlap,
is
my
hunch
and
then
we
could
go
around
again.
Everyone
nominate
your
second
person
see
how
many
we
have
and
see
if
we're
starting,
to
feel
good
about
our
pool
of
applicants
or
are
there
other
folks
that
people
really
really
want
to
have
interviewed?
So
that
was
gonna,
be
my
suggestions.
A
A
We
can,
we
can
ask
him
for
his
input
as
well.
All
right
can
we
start
on
your
side
and
and
just
go
down
sure.
H
C
A
G
A
I
A
A
A
Well,
it's
when
we
just
kind
of
take
another
pass.
This
way,
Amanda
number.
A
A
A
E
A
A
A
C
A
C
A
C
A
I
A
D
A
G
A
A
A
E
A
H
G
C
H
A
A
A
I
also
would
just
ask
and
I'm
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
are
there?
Are
there
any
other
nominees
that
the
staff
would
just
want
to
make
sure
at
least
like
get
interviewed
on
this
list
of
applicants,
and
you
can
think
about
that
per
minute
if
you'd
like
to,
but
if
this
I
think
we're
kind
of
getting
near
this
who
near
the
list?
But
we
do
need
a
few
more.
If
there's
anybody
you
feel
like,
we
ought
to
interviewed,
feel
free
to
feel.
C
A
C
H
K
H
A
E
A
C
A
Know
for
that,
just
for
the
sake
of
you
know,
decision-making
on
this.
My
suggestion
is
that
for
this
initial
round,
we
are
working
under
the
assumption
that
the
districts
are
the
districts
as
they
exist
today,
right
like
in
the
in
the
future.
You
know
when
reappointments
are
happening
years
in
the
future.
I
think
we
want
to
keep
the
keep
the
policy
of,
and
we
may
need
to.
A
Well,
you
know
we'll
just
just
like
elections
like
the
elections
will
be
different
in
the
future,
but
for
now
I
think
we
should
just
keep
it
based
on
the
lines
that
exist
today.
Otherwise
this
could
get
really
messy
anybody
else.
If
there's
anybody
else,
someone
really-
and
we
could
wait-
we
could
see
who
Commissioner
fryer
wants
to
suggest
if
he
has
one
or
two,
then
we're
probably
in
the
right
neighborhood
of
interviewees,
and
we
can
always
interview
more
Joshi,
have
anything
to
add.
I
H
C
H
C
A
C
A
A
J
C
A
Meeting
of
the
year
is
on
Tuesday
the
7th.
We
also
have
an
affordable
housing
committee
that
Dave
and
there
might
be
a
pre-k
meeting
that
day
too
I
would
suggest
we
not
do
it
on
that
day.
Cuz,
it's
just
gonna,
be
too
much
I
think
you
should
probably
call
a
special
meeting
sometime
in
the
first
two
weeks
of
the
year
yeah.
K
Am
here
to
update
you
about
strategic
partnership
grants
and
there
are
two
pieces:
one
of
them
is
about
appointing
the
new
committee.
So,
in
light
of
the
conversation
that
you're
having
related
to
the
parks
committee,
it's
something
ticket
that
will
we'll
want
to
talk
through
regarding
the
process
for
selecting
those
appointments
to
begin.
K
You
should
have
a
copy
of
the
grant
guidelines
and
your
materials
for
today's
meeting.
The
grant
process
officially
opened
on
Monday
of
this
week,
so
December
16th.
The
information
is
posted
online
for
members
of
the
public
and
people
associated
with
community
organizations.
They
can
go
to
Buncombe,
County
org,
slash
grants
and
review
these
grant
guidelines,
which
were
created
based
on
the
guidance
and
criteria
that
we
got
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
For
this
grant
program,
those
grant
guidelines
include
thorough
information
about
the
eligibility
timeline,
grant
application
process,
grant
writing
workshop,
etc.
K
There
is
one
item
related
to
the
eligibility
criteria
that
we
want
to
come
back
in
and
check
in
with
you
about,
and
that
is
the
type
of
organization.
When
the
Board
of
Commissioners
established
the
criteria
for
this
grant
program,
we
made
it
so
that
nonprofit
organizations
would
be
eligible
to
apply
for
funding.
K
The
question
is:
would
we
like
for
public
organizations
to
also
be
eligible
to
apply?
I
know
that
there's
been
some
conversation
between
members
of
the
board
and
with
the
manager
about
potential
eligibility
for
a
governmental
organization
to
be
able
to
make
application
to
Buncombe
County
for
funding
for
a
community
project
through
this
Avenue.
If,
if
the
board
would
like
to
take
that
up
for
consideration,
we
can
bring
a
marked
up
version
of
those
grant
guidelines
on
the
agenda
for
your
next
regular
meeting,
which
would
be
January
7th
to
vote
on,
which.
K
A
Just
to
kind
of,
like
you
know
at
first
blush,
you
might
kind
of
think
you
know
that
doesn't
seem
like
what
this
is
about,
but
just
as
a
reminder
of
what
we
currently
do
right
and
maybe
some
of
the
rationale
behind
that.
So
we
think
about
that
before
maybe
I'm
making
a
decision
currently.
A
Currently
we
fund
it's
a
small
amount
of
money,
but
we
fund
the
HRC
right,
because
that
is
a
jointly
appointed
board
by
the
City
Council
and
the
County
Commission,
and
the
scope
of
that
board
is
countywide.
There's
probably
more
things
they
deal
with
in
the
city,
but
they
do
have
a
countywide
mission
is
my
understanding.
K
A
The
rationale
being
that
you
know
shouldn't
fall
solely
on
the
city.
This
is
something
we
do
together.
So
that's
the
rationale
for
that
and
then
on
the
on
the
Nature
Center.
You
know
the
city
used
to
charge
a
lower
rate
like
this
is
a
subsidized
operation
right,
like
it
cost
the
city,
half
a
million
dollars
a
year
or
whatever
the
current
amount
is
to
run
the
Nature
Center.
A
So
since
they
put
a
lot
of
taxpayer
money
from
their
jurisdiction
into
it,
they
gave
a
discounted
rate
to
city
residents
to
attend,
but
then
I
think
some
commissioners
were
like
well,
how
come
it
cost
more
for
County
residents
to
go
than
the
city
and
so
I
think
the
city
you
said
well,
you
know:
are
we
all
concluded?
Well,
it's
if
they
are
putting
in
way
more
money.
If
we
want
the
county
residents
to
have
the
same
low
rate,
we
ought
to
put
in
funds
to
make
up
that
difference
to
make
the
city
whole.
A
So
I,
don't
know
I
kind
of
feel
like
these
different
places.
Where
we
work
together,
they
each
have
their
own
rationale.
It
kind
of
feels
different
to
me
than
the
rationales
that
go
into
the
strategic
partnerships,
grant
pool
so
I'm
sort
of
thinking
just
sort
of
thinking
out
loud
here,
but
I
wonder
if
maybe
we
should
pull
them
out,
but
but
just
sort
of
in
a
separate
decision
process
decide.
A
C
I'm
will
jump
jump
on
the
Nature
Center
I'm,
a
big
fan.
You
know
everybody
in
my
neighborhood
goes:
Nature
Center
and
tax
payers
from
all
over
the
county,
go
to
the
Nature,
Center
I,
don't
know
where
you
put
it
in,
but
to
me
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that's
been
confusing
about
this
is
that
you
know
I,
don't
want
to
lose
advocacy
for
some
of
these.
You
know
destinations
or
some
of
these
things
that
we
find,
whether
the
city
funds
or
we
fund
them.
C
You
know
people
in
the
city
pay
County
taxes
and
there
are
some
things
that
make
sense
for
us
to
do
together.
The
Nature
Center
is
one
of
them.
We
lost
a
health
adventure,
there's
no
way.
We
need
to
lose
this
one
Nature
Center's
is
a
good
place
for
folks
to
go
so
I,
don't
know
word
yet
where
lands,
but
it
needs
to
plan
somewhere
county
manager.
You
got
any
thoughts,
one
so.
K
L
The
items
that
we
were
talking
about
that
would
require
that
the
governor
entities
are
eligible
to
apply
were
like
the
Kayla,
the
youth
leadership
that
we
do
directly
fund
to
the
city
of
Asheville
or
even
to
some
Vulcan
County
Schools,
like
there's
fun
in
that
work,
pacifically
gone
to
government
he's
not
the
nature
center
or
historic
Commission
like
that.
But
those
are
the
items
those
are
nonprofits.
The
items
that
we
were
looking
at
was
direct
funding
that
we
provide
to
the
city
of
Asheville
on
the
one
that
comes
to
mind.
A
L
C
A
A
If
some
of
the
things
that
you
know
and
again
I
think
this
might
be
part
of
the
outcome
now
of
this,
this
whole
new
way
of
doing
it,
I
mean
some
things
might
fall
out
of
this
funding
process
and
we
might
then,
as
a
board,
have
to
say:
are
we
okay
with
that
or
are
we
gonna
step
in
and
separately
decide
to
fund
some
things
that
are
not
gonna
get
funded?
Otherwise,
so
because
I
do
feel
like
some
of
these.
A
Some
of
these
things
like,
like
this
particular
issue
like
it's
hard
to
imagine,
like
the
rationale
we
had
for
funding.
This
is
not
the
same
criteria.
We're
giving
this
group
to
choose
how
to
program
these
funds
right
so
I
feel
like
it's.
It's
unlikely
that
would
get
funded
through
our
new
process,
but
and
it
should
be,
but
we
might
need
to
find
a
different
way
to
do
it
if
it
doesn't
so.
C
We,
you
know
my
concern
with
having
you
know
a
committee,
and
you
know
there
are
certain
things
that
you
know
it's
my
job
to
represent
the
whole
county
now
and
to
advocate
for
things
that
I
hear
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
not
lost,
and
this
is
a
great
example
of
it.
You
know
the
Nature
Center
just
to
make
sure
that
that's
not
lost
in
a
process,
so
I
think
we're
seeing
the
same
thing.
C
Be
the
only
we
just
need
to
make
sure
I
think
you
know.
Mr.
Prue
commented
in
an
email
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
amending
anything
that
we're,
we
have
that's
already
in
place
that
when
it
comes
to
us
that
it's
got
strike
lines
in
it
and
red
print,
because
it's
impossible
for
me
to
determine
what
it
was
before
and
I
can't
remember
what
it
was
I
emailed
on.
But
it's
maybe
be
something
maybe
something
we're
looking
at
night.
But
if
it
is
no
pressure
but
anything
all.
K
Good
on
the
on
the
eligibility
item.
Now
we
have
the
committee.
We
took
applications
for
the
strategic
partnership
grant
committee
for
a
three
week
period
and
received
21
applications.
Those
applications
are
being
compiled
by
staff.
Currently
we
reached
out
to
the
applicants
in
the
first
couple
of
days
this
week
gathering
some
additional
info
from
them
and
clarifying
around
connection
to
nonprofit
organizations
so
that
we
make
sure
that
we
have
a
full
and
complete
information
about
their
background
and
their
expertise.
E
G
K
The
last
bullet,
the
last
bullet
on
the
page
on
the
screen
that
you're
looking
at
may
be
the
one
that's
confusing
you
because
it
said
it
says,
committee
appointments
scheduled
for
January
7th.
That's
when
staff
was
thinking
that
we
might
bring
a
recommended
slate
for
the
board
to
consider
it
sounds
like
the
board
would
like
to
on
a
one-by-one
basis,
select
and
interview
candidates.
K
We
will
have
some
categories
assigned
to
the
applicants,
so
we've
asked
them
to
share
with
us
what
expertise
they
bring
say
in
the
category
of
environmental
stewardship
versus
educate,
educated
and
capable
community.
So
there
will
be
some
some
natural
categories
that
show
themselves
as
well
as
age
and
zip
code
and
attributes,
in
addition
to
the
narrative
answers
to
the
questions
about
what
they
bring
to
the
board.
But
what
we'll
do
is
organize
that
information
for
you
present
it
and
then,
in
terms
of
timeline,
we.
K
K
K
C
K
L
But
I
receive
a
request
from
Catholic
Charities
regarding
the
future
of
refugee
resettlement
program
here
in
the
county
in
September,
President
Trump
issued
an
executive
order
which
requires
written
consent
by
the
county
and
the
state
consent
in
our
permitting
for
refugees
to
resettle
in
our
in
our
county.
Catholic
Charities
shared
with
me
that
only
refugees
that
have
a
link
our
family
in
the
county
are
resettled
here.
But
the
question
before
you
today
is
to
discuss
whether
or
not
you
would
consider
signing
a
consent
to
allow
refugees
to
resettle
here.
L
A
Thank
you.
Mr.
Pender
and
I
didn't
write
you
if
you
were
just
maybe
share
a
few
thoughts
with
us
about
this.
This
is
this
is
not
a
process
that
local
governments
in
the
past
have.
This
isn't
have
been
invited
to
have
input
on
so.
M
So
you've
never
had
to
do
it
before
because
it's
a
brand-new
procedure,
so
we've
been
resettling
refugees
for
about
40
years,
I'm
based
out
of
Charlotte,
but
people
have
been
coming
here.
Actually
I
think
it
was
World
Relief
that
used
to
resettle
refugees
here
years
ago,
and
we
have
an
office
in
Nashville,
and
so
we've
got
a
case
coordinator
there,
who
is
actually
a
former
refugee
from
Russia
who
works
with
these
families,
and
we
now
have
a
remote
placement
program
where
we
actually
resettle
directly
into
the
Asheville
area.
We've
resettled
about
300
refugees.
M
Here
in
the
last
three
years,
the
majority
of
them
are
placed
in
Buncombe
County,
because
they're
coming
here
to
join
their
family
that
already
lives
here.
The
the
consent
process
is
brand-new
and
what
we're
required
to
do
is
get
the
governor
and
the
chief
executive
officer
of
every
county,
where
we
place
refugees
to
a
consent,
saying
that
it's
okay
to
continue
doing
that.
Okay,.
A
L
M
Not
a
requirement
that
just
happens
to
be
how
the
refugees
are
coming
in
to
Asheville
when
they
as
soon
as
they
arrive,
they
can
petition
to
bring
their
family
members
that
they
left
behind.
That
process
takes
a
couple
of
years,
but
once
they're
approved
to
travel,
then
they
will
typically
resettle
with
their
what
we
call
their
u.s.
tie
or
their
anchor
family.
C
H
M
M
M
My
national
has
requested
consent
by
the
end
of
the
year.
The
deadlines
been
pushed
back
by
the
State
Department,
but
the
nine
national
organizations
that
resettle
refugees
are
all
submitting
their
proposals
for
next
year,
at
the
it
and
sometime
in
the
middle
of
January
and
are
hoping
to
be
able
to
report
with
their
proposal.
How
many
consents
they've
received?
Okay,.
A
Well,
thank
you
for
the
thank
you
for
the
information.
It
sounds
like
we
should
schedule
this
for
Commission
vote
at
the
first
meeting
in
January,
which
is
on
January,
the
January
7th,
the
first
Tuesday
of
the
month,
so
we'll
plan
on
having
it
on
the
agenda
to
make
a
make
a
decision
that
evening
and
if
commissioners
have
any
other
questions
or
if
there's
additional
information
that
can
be
provided
to
us.
Please
send
that.
A
Great
commissioners,
any
other
questions
for
now,
but
because
it
does
sound
like
we
need
to
make
a
decision
at
that
meeting.
If
you
do
have
additional
questions,
please
do
bring
them
to
the
county
manager
and
we'll
work,
we'll
work
with
the
organization
to
make
sure
you
get
any
information
you
need
between
now
and
then
all
right.
Okay,.