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Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on May 2, 2023. The briefing is a chance for Commissioners to review agenda items before the meeting. No motions will take place during the briefing.
A
A
All
right,
great,
the
first
item
on
our
agenda
is
a
legislative
agenda.
Update
and
Tim
love
is
here
to
help
us
get
started,
and
then
we
have
some
of
our
friends
from
Warden
Smith
who
are
representing
Buncombe
County
in
the
North
Carolina
legislature,
this
session,
we'll
hear
from
them
as
well
Tim.
Thank.
B
You
good
afternoon,
chair
Commissioners
members
of
the
public
I'll,
be
brief:
commission
passed
its
first
legislative
agenda
earlier
this
year
and
it's
been
an
active
session
down
in
Raleigh,
so
we
asked
Whitney,
Christensen
and
trafton.
Dinwiddie
are
government
relations,
folks
that
are
on
the
ground
of
Raleigh
to
come
and
provide
an
update
on
the
commissioner's
agenda
and
so
they're
going
to
do
that
today.
We'll
take
any
questions
that
you
have
as
well
on.
The
agenda
meant
to
be
an
opportunity
to
share
some
of
the
good
news
coming
out
related
to
the
commissioner's
agenda.
B
C
We
appreciate
you
allowing
us
to
be
here
and
provide
this
update
before
we
get
started.
I
just
want
to
congratulate
you
all
on
a
well-developed
agenda
and
a
lot
of
progress.
The
general
assembly
went
into
session
in
late
January,
and
here
we
are
in
early
May
and
you
guys
have
achieved
a
lot
in
a
short
time
and
I
think
you
deserve
a
lot
of
the
credit
in
that
regard
for
developing
such
a
balanced
and
thoughtful
agenda,
full
viable
legislative
priorities
and
so
happy
to
give
you
an
update
on
that.
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D
Thank
you
all
for
having
us
I'm
trapping
Dan
Woody,
of
course,
so
we'll
jump
right
into
the
legislative
agenda.
First
item
under
the
Appropriations
priority
was
to
seek
State
funding
for
additional
state
employee,
K-12,
Community,
College
salary
increases.
We
have
some
great
news
to
provide
to
you
all
today
on
that
item,
and
that
is
that
in
the
house
budget
that
was
passed
about
three
weeks
ago,
there
there's
an
average
raise
of
10
percent
for
teachers,
an
average
9.5
percent
raise
for
bus
drivers.
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7.5
percent
could
import
Community,
College
and
other
state
employees,
as
well
as
additional
funding
for
hard
to
hire
positions.
Think
of
your
specialized
education
Personnel,
for
example,
as
well
as
the
general
assembly
of
restored
Master's
pay
within
the
house
budget
and
provided
between
four
and
eight
weeks
of
maternity
leave
for
teachers.
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C
To
finish
that
project,
as
you
remember,
there
was
funding
in
the
last
budget
cycle
to
start
that
project
and
so
I
think
the
counties
to
be
commended
for
pursuing
that
and
we're
happy
so
happy
with
the
progress
that
we've
seen
and
the
support
their
delegation
has
been
wonderful
on
it.
In
particular,
we
want
to
thank
representative
eager
and
Senator
Daniel
it's
in
both
of
their
districts,
and
they
have
both
been
over
backwards
to
help
us
with
this
and
just
been
very
supportive.
So
we
appreciate
that.
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Also,
under
this
umbrella,
we've
achieved
a
lot
of
progress
in
a
short
time.
We
think,
on
an
initiative
that
commissioner
Wells
has
spent
a
lot
of
time
on.
Senator
Mayfield
has
put
poured
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
into
this,
and
it
is
an
AG
cost
share
pilot
program
which
would
be
funded
at
the
tune
of
two
million
dollars.
It
would
be
available
to
four
counties,
one
of
which
is
Buncombe,
and
the
goal
of
this
pilot
would
be
to
empower
you
know:
AG
professionals
Farmers
to
do
things
on
their
property.
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That
would
hopefully
make
the
French
Broad,
cleaner
and
so
Mountain
true
has
done
a
lot
of
research
on
this,
and
you
know,
is
backing
The
Proposal
we've
lent
our
support
and
happy
to
report
that
we
have
two
Standalone
bills:
bills
filed
on
this
topic
already
House
Bill
890,
which
was
filed
by
representative
eager
and
Senate
Bill
237,
which
was
filed
by
Senators,
Mayfield,
Moffett
and
Corbett.
So
nice
bipartisan
Bill
there.
Ultimately,
the
end
goal
for
the
this
one
will
be
to
get
into
the
budget,
since
funding
usually
is
not
enacted
through
these
Standalone
bills.
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So
you
can
advocate
for
additional
funding
for
intellectual
and
developmental
disabilities
and
folks
that
are
within
the
community
community.
We've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
Senator
Moffett
on
this
item.
He's
filed
a
couple
of
Standalone
bills
as
well
as
had
some
great
conversations
with
Advocates
throughout
the
general
assembly
there.
On
that
issue,
we
did
not
see
as
much
investment
within
that
particular
area
within
the
house
budget.
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Of
course,
we're
looking
to
the
Senate
to
see
some
changes
there
and
some
additional
policy
changes
that
we
we
saw
in
the
house
budget
they're
a
little
a
little
tough
to
understand
a
little
tough
to
piece
together.
But
it's
not
the
final
version,
so
we're
expecting
to
continue
to
work
on
that
and
we'll
report
back
with
any
great
news
we
might
have
from
there.
Yeah.
C
And
I
realized,
I,
told
tract
and
I
would
take
this
side
I'm.
So
sorry
for
that
pause
and
the
delay
there,
forgive
me,
but
yes,
so
the
the
proof
and
the
pudding
on
this
one
will
be
in
the
ultimate
conference
report,
which
we
likely
won't
see
until
June
is
trapped
and
indicated.
But
Senator
Moffett
has
assured
us
that
he's
got
this.
One
under
control
he's
put
in
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
on
this,
and
so
we're
hoping
to
see.
C
But
just
you
know
adjacent
you
know
adjacent
items,
including
Senate,
Bill
578,
which
would
create
a
program
encouraging
state
agencies
to
employ
idd
individuals
and
vacancies
where
appropriate,
and
there
was
also
in
the
house
budget
750
000
transferred
from
State
arpa
funding
to
Workforce
Development
initiatives
for
idd
individuals
and
so
seeing
good
momentum.
There
lots
of
good
energy
and
really
want
to
commend
Senator
Moffett
for
his
work
on
this
topic.
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I'll
I'll
take
the
next
one
on
MLB,
so
the
fourth
and
final
item
on
the
legislative
agenda
for
Appropriations
would
be
to
seek
State
funding
for
repairs
and
Renovations
at
McCormick
field.
We
know
this
is
a
very
popular
and
much
talked
about
issue
in
the
Buncombe
County
community.
So
we
wanted
to
provide
some
some
great
news
on
that.
So
within
the
house
budget
there
was
a
fund
that
was
created
much
like
we
talked
about.
We
anticipated
what
happened.
We've.
D
Hand
in
hand
with
MLB
this
entire
session
to
number
one
ensure
that
this
grant
program
gets
funded
and
number
two
ensure
that
as
best
we
can
facilitate
the
the
limitations
on
the
grant
program
so
that
Buncombe,
County
McCormick
field
would
be
would
be
towards
the
top.
So
we
can
report
that
within
the
house
budget
that
grant
program
was
funded.
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E
D
C
Gotten
our
order
and
our
sequence
a
little
out
of
whack
moving
on
to
your
policy
priorities,
and
some
of
these
do
have
some
Appropriations
overlap.
But
the
first
item
that
we
have
under
the
County's
policy
priorities
is
to
seek
additional
State
funding,
support
for
early
childhood
education
and
Pre-K
programs,
including
simplifying
or
modifying
the
subsidy
formula
for
Buncombe
County,
so
happy
to
report
positive
changes
here
in
the
house
budget.
C
There
was
a
nice
overhaul
of
how
the
subsidy
formula
is
calculated
there
and
I
can't
pretend
to
be
an
expert
on
it,
but
can
report
that
that
it
is
received
nothing
but
favorable
commentary
from
The,
Advocates
and
other
County
groups
that
we've
spoken
with
so
I
think
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and
expect
to
see
this
sustained
on
the
Senate
side.
So
hopefully
that
change
will
become
long.
D
So
second
item
on
the
policy
priorities
would
be
oppose
any
proposals
that
would
limit
local
government
ability
to
regulate
short-term
rentals
or
online
marketplaces.
So
again,
this
is
an
item.
That's
very
much
popular
and
widely
talked
about
within
the
welcome
Community
we've
been
participating
in
a
stakeholder
group
led
by
the
North
Carolina
legal
municipalities
and
the
association
of
County
Commissioners
for
well
over
I
believe
a
year
now.
C
D
D
The
same
bill
that
has
been
floated
for
a
period
of
time
that
would
broadly
limit
online
marketplaces.
That
bill
has
since
been
amended.
Since
it
was
filed
a
few
different
times,
we're
still
in
conversations
I
would
couch
it
is
that
we're
happy
with
the
changes,
we're
seeking
additional
changes
and
we're
working
with
house
members,
especially
the
house
regulatory
reform,
chairman
representative
Rydell,
from
Alamance
County
on
the
house
side.
So
we
we
do
expect
that
bill
to
pass
over
from
the
Senate
to
the
house
before
this
week's
crossover
deadline,
which
is
Thursday.
C
Absolutely
the
next
item
on
your
policy
priorities
is
to
seek
authorization
of
a
general
assembly
study
for
property,
tax
relief
and
related
exemptions
for
permanent
residents
of
the
state
of
North
Carolina.
So
when
we
were
discussing
this,
this
is
a
really
important
topic
to
several
Commissioners,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
on
the
agenda.
We
knew
that
there
would
be
some
hurdles
and
some
Kinks
to
work
out
with
this
one,
namely
you
know,
there's
a
potential
constitutional
issue
that
we're
working
through.
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C
D
That
is
something
that
we
have
talked
to
the
commission
for
really
the
entire
time
that
we've
represented
you
all.
This
has
been
an
issue
that
we've
been
trying
to
tackle.
We
were
successful
last
year,
as
you
all
know,
and
I'm
modifying
the
ratio,
but
we
understand
it.
Of
course,
the
the
public
sentiment
is
that,
of
course,
perhaps
the
whole
guideline
system
should
be
re-looked
at
you
know
the
the
guidelines
are
older
than
I.
Am
they
were
enacted
prior
to
my
birth?
So
I
think
it's
about
time
to
revisit
them.
D
We've
had
some
productive
conversations,
especially
the
beginning
of
session,
with
particular
house
members,
Senator
Daniel,
Senator
Mayfield
they've
been
fantastic
to
work
with,
of
course,
but
we're
still
facing
kind
of
an
uphill
battle.
There
we've
had
some
internal
conversations
and
I
know.
Members
of
the
general
assembly
have,
with
the
traveling
tourism,
Association,
they're,
fantastic
partners,
of
course,
and
I
think
we
would
just
continue
that
dialogue
and
hopefully,
are
looking
to
make
some
progress
once
crossover
deadline
is,
is
passed
and
members
have
a
little
bit
more
bandwidth
to
to
approach
issues.
C
So
part
of
this
one
I
would
report
was
kind
of
the
chief,
the
last
session.
We
put
it
down
on
the
agenda
again
because
our
subject
matter,
expert
Tim,
love
views
that
there's
still
room
for
improvement
in
terms
of
that
flexibility.
But
in
terms
of
the
investment
itself,
the
house
budget
wasn't
again
incredibly
generous
on
broadband
funding
and
will
continue.
C
You
know:
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
on
various
items
that
are
included
in
the
budget
that
were
already
in
the
house
budget
that
will
be
added
to
the
conference.
Report.
With
respect
to
you
know
our
specific
local
projects,
we
feel
relatively
optimistic
on
the
budget's
viability
as
a
whole.
We
think
either
through
veto
override
or
more
likely.
C
So
with
that
happy
to
take
any
questions-
or
you
know,
give
any
additional
context
to
these
priorities,
but
I
mean
I
couldn't
be
happier
about
the
progress
that
you
guys
have
made
in
this
session
already,
and
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
to
Tim
earlier
today.
This
is
a
happy
progress
report
to
give,
because
you
guys
have
made
a
great
inroads
on
the
majority
of
your
goals.
H
B
D
Percent
and
the
bus
drivers
was
an
average
of
9.5
percent.
Both
of
those
figures
have
been
approved
by
the
house.
Now,
the
the
Senate
is
obviously
still
working
on
their
budget
proposal.
We
expect
that
to
come
out
in
about
two
three
weeks
from
now.
Okay,
then,
obviously
we'll
see
where,
where
their
raises
sit
on
that
scale
and
of
course,
it'll
then
additionally
be
negotiated
within
the
conference
process,
which
we
expect
to
occur
after
Memorial
Day,
with
the
hopes
that
the
state
can
enact
a
new
budget
by
the
new
fiscal
year,
July
1.
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A
D
D
A
Okay
and
in
addition
to
those
those
raises,
there's
a
there's:
a
State
Compensation
Plan
for
teachers
like
this
step
plan
right
so
there's
also
whatever
raises
teachers
would
get
based
on
just
the
moving
forward
through
that
process.
Right
is
there
also,
but
when
we
talk
about
the
you
know
the
the
10
of
our
two
years,
that's
the
total
raises
that
would
occur
right.
So
there's
not
like
a
cost
of
living
adjustment
payment.
In
addition
to
that,
that
is
sort
of
reflective
of
what
the
pay
increase
would
be.
D
E
D
A
That's
okay,
that's
okay!
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
clear
on
that:
I
mean
in
some
ways.
You
know,
because
we
have
responsibility
for
public
schools
in
Buncombe
County,
of
course,
and
the
local
supplemental
pay.
Of
course,
we've
also
got
our
own
County
employees
and
thinking
about
the
compensation
issues
for
them
through
the
budget.
A
F
C
You,
commissioner,
you
guys
have
been
fantastic
partners
and
you
know:
we've
represented
local
governments
for
a
long
time
and
I
can
say
you
are.
You
are
the
sweethearts
of
your
State
Association,
because
every
time
they
ask
for
feedback
and
we
bring
that
request
to
Tim
or
someone
else
on
those
staff.
We
immediately
get
the
feedback
they
need,
and
so
I
think
Buncombe
County's
participation
in
the
State
Legislative
process
and
through
your
State
Association
is
really
just
Second.
To
None,
you
guys
have
done
a
fantastic
job
and
really
also
I.
C
Don't
know
if
complimented
you
on
this
many
times
but
developed
a
really.
You
know
nonpartisan
viable
legislative
agenda
that
would
achieve
great
things
for
the
residents,
and
so
you
are,
you
all
are
to
be
commended
for
being
so
thoughtful
about
how
you
set
your
policy
goals
and
on
how
you
participate
in
the
process,
because
you're
definitely
not
sitting
on
the
sidelines
and
I.
Think
that's
fantastic.
A
So
you
know
because
I
know:
we'd
have
some
communication
just
recently.
Have
there
been
any
changes
in
the
in
that
legislation,
since
we
last
communicated
around
them?
I
mean
part
of
the
concerns.
Right
have
been
around
whether
the
the
legislation
might
limit
local
government's
ability
to
regulate
short-term
rentals
through
our
zoning
processes
right
and
that
it
might
be
that
the
legislation
doesn't
say
that
it
does
that,
but
it
also
doesn't
maybe
say
it
doesn't,
and
so
we're
there's
been
concerns
about
whether
it
might
someday
be
interpreted
in
that
way.
C
Yes,
so
our
concern
like
yours
has
been
from
the
start
and
continues
to
be
with
this
legislation,
just
the
breadth
and
unintended
consequences.
We
know
the
actors
who
are
at
the
table
and
we've
had
a
great
stakeholder
process
with
Airbnb
with
the
County
Association,
the
city
Association,
the
retail
Merchants
Association,
the
restaurant
Lodging
Association.
We
know
all
the
players
are
acting
in
good
faith
and
we've
had
a
really
productive
conversation
with
those
folks.
C
But
when,
when
something
is
drafted
as
broadly
as
that
legislation
is
you
know,
you
can't
conceive
of
all
the
unintended
potential
consequences.
So
to
answer
your
question:
yes,
we've
had
two
very
productive
changes
in
the
last
week
or
so,
both
of
which
we
suggested
one
would
clarify,
and
these
are
both
included
in
the
bill
as
it
stands
now,
and
this
is
the
Senate
bill,
one
would
clarify
that
city
and
county
online
platforms
aren't
impacted
by
the
by
the
new
limitation,
and
so
you
know
the
County's
permit
portal
or
a
city's
utility.
C
You
know
login
system
where
folks
can
pay
their
utility
bills.
Those
would
not
be
preempted
by
the
legislation,
so
we
thought
that
was
a
very
helpful
clarification
and
then
the
second
suggestion
we
made,
which
we
made
in
a
stakeholder
meeting
in
March
or
so,
but
it
was
included
in
the
draft
last
week-
was
that
we
had
clarifying
language
at
the
end
of
the
bill,
which
was
added
as
new
section
three.
C
C
Representative
Riddell
is
leading
that
stakeholder
group
and
you
know,
has
made
it
clear
to
all
parties
that
he
wants
to
be
thoughtful
and
careful
and
make
sure
he
has
a
draft
that
works
for
everyone,
and
so
he's
done
a
great
job,
managing
those
negotiations
already
and
I
I'm,
confident
that
he
will
continue
to
be
fair
and
thoughtful
as
we
move
through
the
house
if
it
gets
to
the
house.
But
yes
to
answer
your
question
in
a
long-winded
way,
there
have
been
two
very
positive
changes
to
the
bill
that
were
proposed
by
Buncombe
County.
A
C
D
I
I
The
second
amendment
that
we
will
be
bringing
soon
is
proposed
language,
around
violation
and
possibility
of
civil
penalty
for
income
and
lows
to
transfer
station
or
landfill
that
are
not
properly
covered
or
secured.
That
fee
would
be
ten
dollars
for
residential
load
and
25
dollars
for
commercial
loads.
I
A
My
only
question
Dane
is
on
the
is
there
information
on
the
County
website
around
the
requirements
for
covering
material
when
you're
going
to
the
landfill,
I
I
know
sometimes
I've
been
going
and
and
make
maybe
I
know
we
have
a
policy
but
like
for
different
kinds
of
materials.
I've
not
always
been
clear
on
like
what
requires
covering
or
what
doesn't.
So.
Where
can
people
get
more
information
about
what
the
what
the
policy
is
and
how
they
should?
They
should
handle
that.
I
That's
that's
a
great
Point
chairman
I
feel
like
we
can
do
a
better
job
on
that.
So
when
you
look
at
when
this
is
going
to
be
effective,
we
don't.
This
is
not
our
ordinance
currently
we're
looking
to
align
that
with
our
our
fee.
Changes
being
approved
through
the
budget
Cycles
so
July
of
this
year
is
when
we'd
look
to
make
that
change
now
up
leading
up
till
then
that's
going
to
be
on
us
to
outreach,
educate,
June
is
actually
National
cover
your
load
month.
I
It
is
that's
a
thing,
so
we
we
did
some
Outreach
last
year
on
that
Cape
helped
us
do
that.
So
we've
got
some
information
we
want
to
send
out
because,
because
it
is
important,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
are
are
covering
their
loads,
securing
them
into
your
point.
There's
different
types
of
Transportation
Vehicles
trailers.
So
we
want
to.
We
want
to
get
that.
That
word
out.
A
J
Good
afternoon,
Commissioners
chairman
thanks
for
having
me
today,
I,
want
to
talk
about
a
landfill
gas
to
energy
update
agenda
today
is
just
kind
of
review
what
I
went
over
last
time.
You
all
saw
me
back
in
November
2021
talking
about
the
generator
project
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
request
for
expressions
of
interest
that
we
hope
to
get
out
on
the
streets
soon
and
then
just
a
brief
update
on
our
existing
gas
system.
J
So
quick
reminder
benefits
of
our
current
landfill
Gas
Energy
System.
We
do
have
a
generator
and
a
flare
on
site
that
are
combusting
methane,
which
is
a
potent
greenhouse
gas.
So
we
are
reducing
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
currently
at
the
landfill.
We
also
produce
renewable
electricity
with
our
generator
and
right
now,
Duke
is
obligated
to
purchase
renewable
electricity
that
we
produce.
J
We
also
have
an
on-site
vehicle
charging
station
and
an
electric
van
that
runs
on
garbage.
That's
got
a
little
poster
on
the
back
of
the
van
I'll.
Show
that
to
you
at
the
end
here
so
in
November
2021,
we
came
to
the
board
to
talk
about
the
expiration
date
of
our
power
purchase
agreement
with
Duke.
Since
then,
we
executed
that
three-year
PPA,
so
we
are
working
under
that
until
November,
2024
and
right
now
we
are
in
the
stage
to
evaluate
additional
uses
of
landfill
gas.
J
And
then
we
had
planned
to
return
to
you
all
the
end
of
this
year
to
tell
you
what
we
found
out
so
a
reminder
on
the
timeline
I
showed
previously,
we
do
have
the
annual
75
000
a
year
loan
payment
that
does
not
expire
until
June
2032.
So
we
will
have
that
that
debt
liability
for
quite
some
time
we
did
terminate
our
generator
contract
with
Neo
at
the
beginning
of
2022.
J
So
we
hope
to
issue
that
reoi
shortly
after
this
meeting,
you
know
mid
early
May,
then
we
want
to
have
a
mandatory
meeting
at
the
landfill,
so
anybody
that
wants
to
submit
something
come
visit,
the
site
during
a
specific
date
and
time
so
they
can
see.
Everybody
can
have
the
same
experience
of
touring
the
landfill
and
seeing
what
we
have
and
then
going
back
to
to
provide
any
submittals,
and
then
we
hope
to
have
a
deadline
of
those
towards
the
end
of
June.
Give
everybody
plenty
of
time.
J
We
hope
to
come
out
and
then
write
something
up
for
us.
We
want
to
evaluate
those
and
then
potentially
look
for
an
RFP
after
that
it
really
just
depend
what
we
get
as
our
respondents
and
where
we
we
go
from
there
and
while
the
reoi
is
out,
we
want
to
continue
looking
at
our
current
system.
We
have
some
items
in
the
pipeline
that
we
want
to
evaluate
while
we're
out
getting
submittals.
J
So
who
might
we
hear
from?
We
might
hear
that
we
just
continue
with
what
we're
doing,
or
we
might
hear
from
a
traditional
landfill
gas
developer.
That
wants
to
do
what
we're
doing,
but
as
a
developer,
that
is
a
little
bit
out
of
our
industry
anymore.
That's
what
we
used
to
do,
I,
don't
anticipate
getting
those,
and
then
we
might
get
some
renewable
natural
gas
or
virtual
pipeline
Developers.
J
And
then
currently,
I
wanted
to
just
briefly
talk
about
the
expenses
and
revenues
of
our
existing
system.
Right
now
we
do
have
our
annual
operating
and
maintenance
costs,
the
loan
repayment
and
then
intermittent
maintenance
on
the
generator,
that's
fairly
significant,
that
is
outside
of
our
normal
annual
budget
and
then
three
Revenue
sources,
electricity,
sales,
carbon
credits
and
renewable
energy
credits.
J
So
here's
a
snapshot
of
all
of
those
items,
historic
up
till
now,
FY
22,
you
see
a
dip
in
the
revenues
that
was
when
we
got
our
new
PPA
with
the
reduced
electricity
sales
from
duke.
So
you
can
see
that
we
also
had
some
down
time
with
the
generator.
There
was
a
large
maintenance
item
that
you
see
is
now
getting
invoiced
in
FY
23.
That
was
one
of
the
large
maintenance
items.
We
anticipated
it's
our
40
000
hour
service.
J
So
this
is
a
snapshot
of
how
we're
looking
expenses
and
revenues
the
capital.
You
see,
FY
23,
if
you
just
stack
that
with
the
operating
in
debt
once
that
invoice
hits
that's
how
that
will
look
and
again
for
the
maintenance,
the
40
000
hour
service.
We
have
an
invoice
right
now.
That's
about
235
000,
it's
under
review
currently
and
then
the
next
major
maintenance
item
will
be
over
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
best
we
can
guess.
J
And
just
an
update
on
the
existing
system,
it's
getting
aged
it.
Wells
went
into
waste
in
2011.
The
generator
went
online
at
that
time,
so
we
have
several
existing
Wells
that
need
Improvement
that
have
just
kind
of
failed
over
time.
We
have
also
finished
filling
cell
six,
so
we
want
to
put
new
gas
wells
in
there
to
capture
methane
coming
off
of
the
new
waste
in
place
and
that
we
had
hoped
to
do
some
of
that
work
this
past
year,
but
budgets
came
in
or
cost
estimates
came
in
way
over
budget.
J
So
we
had
decided
to
postpone
that
until
next
budget
year
and
see
what
reoi
options
come
in
and
here's
our
van
and
here's
our
charging
station
and
there's
the
power
line
that
comes
straight
from
the
generator
up
the
hill
at
the
landfill.
So
we
are
generating
renewable
electricity
for
electric
vehicles
on
site,
which
makes
us
eligible
for
an
upcoming
Revenue
Source
in
the
e-rin
market.
It's
a
new
and
upcoming
potential
Revenue
Source.
It's
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
look
at
while
this
reoi
is,
is
out
on
the
streets.
J
A
B
J
F
J
Looking
at
the
options,
if
we
were
to
continue
with
it,
we
know
that's
a
substantial
investment
we
would
have
to
make
in
the
current
system,
but
that's
what
we
really
want
to
dive
into
a
little
bit
deeper.
While
respondents
are
coming
in
to
really
see
what
what
our
debt
and
revenues
are
going
to
look
like
if
we
want
to
keep
going
and
again
Duke
signing
another
PPA
will
be
the
Big
Driver.
So
we
want
to
try
to
have
those
conversations
earlier
last
time
we
did
this.
J
A
J
Good
question
they're
different
landfills
do
different
things.
The
smaller
ones.
Typically,
don't
do
anything.
The
medium-sized
ones
is
what
we
are
typically
we'll
have
a
generator
a
flare,
keep
the
odors
down.
Eventually,
one
thing
I
do
need
to
mention
is
we
will
want
to
keep
some
of
our
gas
wells
in
place
and
flare
for
odor
mitigation
and
potential
regulations
coming
up?
That
will
impact
us
and
make
us
run
a
system,
and
then
the
larger
landfills
have
triggered
that
regulatory
threshold
where
they
have
to
run
a
system,
so
they
have
to
make
those
Investments.
J
Those
of
us
that
are
in
the
medium
voluntary
range
they're.
A
lot
of
them
are
moving
towards
RNG
or
virtual
pipeline,
but
our
gas,
the
amount
of
gas
we
have
is
kind
of
right
on
the
the
line,
so
we're
just
not
sure
we
don't
have
a
pipeline
nearby.
So
those
have
been
issues
in
the
past
where
we
haven't
had
much
success
with
RNG
projects
in
our
area,
but
we
we
want
to
ask
again
to
see
what
options
are
out
there.
Other
municipalities
and
public
landfills
are
moving
in
that
direction
as
well.
J
Sure
yeah
so
virtual
pipeline
would
be
you
know
we
don't
have
a
pipeline
within
five
to
ten
miles
and
the
the
amount
of
money
it
takes
to
make
a
pipeline
to
connect
to
a
pipeline
is
very
substantial,
so
they
look
at
Trucking
RNG
to
a
pipeline.
So
that's
essentially
what
it
is
put
it
in
a
truck
and
haul
it
somewhere.
J
A
I,
don't
know
if
it's
being
done
at
landfills,
but
if
things
being
done
at
some
other
kind
of
like
power
generation
facilities,
is
you
can
also
power
a
battery
with
the
electricity
right
and
then
drive
that
over
to
somewhere?
That
needs
the
electricity,
so
that
kind
of
the
challenge
here
is
like
we've
got
this
valuable
electricity,
but
the
utility
will
no
longer
pay
very
much
for
it
right.
That's
kind
of
the
challenges,
because
there's
not
that
much
use
for
the
electricity
currently
on
site.
A
So
how
do
you
get
this
valuable
energy
to
where
someone
can
use
it
right?
So
it
could
either
be
done
through
transporting
the
gas
or
powering
a
battery
transporting
the
battery.
So
anyway,
there
could
be
a
number
of
different
kind
of
things
to
look
at
that,
but
they'll
have
like
you'd
have
to
analyze
all
that
from
a
financial
standpoint
right
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
and.
J
A
A
A
J
A
K
Thank
you
so
much
so,
as
we
were
at
our
planning
board
joint
planning
board
session,
it
became
obvious
that
we're
all
serving
on
a
variety
of
boards,
commissions
and
committees,
and
often
there's
overlap
in
the
work,
sometimes
we're
not
always
necessarily
in
the
loop
with
what
is
happening
on
those
boards
and
commissions
in
which
we
are
required
to
serve
as
part
of
our
elected
duty
to
Buncombe,
County
and
outside
of
keeping
each
other
informed
on
those
and
decisions
that
are
coming
that
will
affect
Buncombe
County
as
a
whole.
I
think.
K
It's
also
really
important
that
the
residents
across
Buncombe
County
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
work
that
we
do
on
behalf
of
them
too,
rather
than
just
sit
up
here
twice
a
month.
There's
it's
vast
what
we
do
and
I
think
keeping
them
as
in
the
loop
on
what
is
happening
across
the
county
as
possible.
It's
really
important!
So
with
all
that
said,
what
I
would
like
to
propose
for
discussion
today
is
that
we
add
an
agenda
item
to
each
of
our
regular
5
PM
meetings.
K
At
the
end,
before
we
adjourn
to
report
on
our
boards
and
committee
service,
along
with
that,
what
I
would
like
to
propose
is
much
like
we
do
with
public
comment.
Each
person
has
three
minutes
to
give
a
quick
overview
update
on
what
has
happened
within
that
two-week
period.
And
I
am
proposing
each
meeting
that
we
do
this
because,
as
I
look
at
the
timing
of
when
each
of
those
meetings
occur,
for
example,
the
EDC
meets
the
last
week
of
the
month.
K
Well,
there
you
go,
you
said
it
not
me,
commissioner
Whitesides,
and
sometimes
you
know
there
is
time,
sensitive
information,
so
just
ensuring
that
we're
being
sensitive
of
the
time
and
the
information
that's
forthcoming,
that
we
would
do
it
each
time,
and
just
because
you
have
three
minutes,
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
take
it.
It
could
be
that
there's
nothing
to
report
from
you
know
the
mpo
or
land
of
sky
or
whatever
it
is
we're
serving
on,
and
we
could
just
say
no
report.
K
The
last
thing
that
I
would
also
propose
is
because
we
have
staff
present
at
affordable
housing,
early
childhood
and
energy
and
environment.
We
do
receive
minutes
for
those
that
are
then
published
on
our
website,
as
well
as
internally
with
each
other
that
we
may
not
necessarily
need
to
report
on
those,
but
rather
the
other
committees
and
boards
and
commissions
that
we
serve
on.
So
that's
my
proposal
and
I'll
open
the
floor
for
conversation.
K
Our
5
PM
meeting,
since
that's
our
our
really
public
meeting
right
and
it
gives
people
a
better
access
to
us
and
I
would
propose
that.
We
add
it
at
the
very
end
of
the
agenda
right
before
we
would
adjourn
or
make
other
boards
and
commission
selections,
yeah
yeah,
but
more
of
a
formalized
process
where
we
can
report
on
those
meetings.
K
F
I'm
supportive
as
I
especially
like,
if
we
do
it
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
so
that
you
know
most,
those
who
are
in
attendance
if
they
so
choose,
are
able
to
leave
at
that
time
as
well,
but
and
I
like
the
fact
of
not
necessarily
saying
that
we're
all
sharing
something
each
time
but
it's
there.
And
if
there
is
something
specific
to
share,
because
if
we
were
all
going
around
and
taking
three
minutes
each
time
that
could
go
on
for
quite
a
while
sometimes.
F
L
A
A
So
if
we're
gonna,
do
it
I
would
say
like
just
you
know
if
someone
has
an
update
to
share
just
from
a
and
this,
and
this
would
be
limited
to
to
updates
on
from
boards
and
committees
that
we
represent
so
so
so
you
know
we
find
all
your
updates
and
stories
interesting,
but
for
this
segment,
it's
just
from
boards
and
committees
that
we
serve
on
as
a
commission.
So
not
a
not
a
oh
I
had
a
general
I
had
an
interesting
meeting
with
so
and
so
from
the
community.
A
All
right:
well,
it
sounds
like
there's
interest
in
this,
so
why
don't
we?
You
know?
Why
don't
we?
Why
don't
we
give
this
a
try
and
we
can
always
check
in
on
this,
and
you
know
see
how
it
feels
like
in.
Why
don't
we
say
like
let's
put
it
on
the
agenda
and
maybe
maybe
make
a
note
to
have
a
check-in
about
it,
maybe
in
six
months,
and
we
can
all
kind
of
see
like
yeah.
A
E
K
E
M
K
B
A
F
Like
been
thinking
about
sometimes
with
our
meetings,
especially
the
closed
session,
that
aspect
is
going
pretty
late
in
the
evening,
sometimes,
and
so
just
through
some
conversations
with
other
Commissioners
and
with
staffs
I,
just
thought
it'd
be
worth
to
explore
and
have
consideration.
Is
there
another
option
that
potentially
could
be
better
to
where
we're
not
having
that
at
the
end
of
a
very
long
night?
F
We're
we're
having
important
discussions
with
that,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
put
that
out
there
for
us
to
consider
and
also
hear
I,
think
the
county
manager
and
staff
have
some
potential
thoughts
of
other
options
that
could
work
as
well.
So,
at
the
appropriate
time,
I'd
like
to
hear
from
them
as
well
and
commissioner
Moore.
L
Sure
and
I'll
just
add
briefly:
I'd,
maybe
y'all
are
more
legally
inclined
than
myself,
but
I,
don't
like
making
important
legal
decisions
at
nine
o'clock
at
night.
Very
rarely
is
a
fun
thing.
So
if
we
could
consider
alternate
timing
for
that,
maybe
putting
that
midday
on
the
days
that
we
don't
have
commission
interviews
or
something
to
that
effect.
A
M
M
I
don't
expect
a
decision
tonight,
but
just
want
to
put
this
out
there
that
you
guys
can
think
of
so
to
option.
One
was
about
how
do
we
start
briefing
at
two
o'clock
so
the
two
hour
for
briefing
and
then
we
can
have
closed
session
at
four
and
then
go
into
our
regular
meeting,
not
five.
So
this
moves
the
briefing
up
an
hour.
M
I,
don't
know
how
that
works
with
all
the
subcommittee
meetings
that
we
do
have,
but
I
wanted
to
propose
the
option
to
option
two
could
be
one
day
meeting
one
night
meeting
and
we
have
a
briefing
in
the
mornings
at
nine.
If
that's
the
case,
a
regular
meeting
at
11,
we
could
break
for
lunch
and
then,
if
there's
a
closed
session
needed,
you
can
have
closed
session,
which
will
get
closer
to
Martin's.
Do
it
in
the
middle
of
the
day?
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
M
This
is
what
I
wanted
to
show
that
several
communities
have
a
different
schedule,
so
there's
no
one-size-fits-all
community,
so
Wake
County
has
their
brief
in
their
board
meetings
at
5
pm
on
the
first
and
third
there's
one
at
2
p.m,
when
they
have
their
meetings
and
closed
session
goes
after
that,
but
their
work
session
is
the
offbeat
the
third
meeting
of
the
month.
That's
first
meeting
and
third
is
meetings
and
then
on.
The
second
is
when
they
have
their
work
sessions
in
Durham
County.
M
Their
first
meeting
of
the
month
is
a
work
session
and
that
starts
at
9am.
Then
they
have
their
board
meetings
on
the
second
and
third
at
7
pm,
so
we're
just.
The
closed
session
follows
the
day
meeting
work
session,
okay
in
Mecklenburg,
they're
more
like
us
to
have
a
first
and
third
Tuesday
meetings.
Closed
sessions
follow
5
PM,
but
their
work
sessions
are
there
bring.
Our
briefings
is
on
that
second
and
fourth
Tuesday
in
New
Hanover.
Their
work
sessions
is
at
4
pm
on
the
first
and
third
Thursday
and
the
following
week.
M
The
meetings
are
Tuesdays
on
Mondays
at
the
first
and
third
Mondays
and
they
closed
session
follows,
but
they
have
a
day
meeting
and
an
evening
meeting
one
starts
at
4
P.M
one
starts
at
9
A.M,
so
there's
no
one
way
that
everyone
does
it.
So
we
have
options
that
we
can
look
at
and
I
wanted
to
show
you
what
other
counties
are
doing
and
some
options
that
you
can
consider.
F
G
M
A
F
E
F
K
Does
this
open
the
opportunity
for
folks
who
may
work?
You
know
I,
think
about
our
food
and
beverage
friends
who
may
be
working
in
the
evenings
that
can't
always
come
to
a
5
PM
public
comment:
does
this
open
the
door
for
people
to
have
greater
access
to
us
for
public
comment,
or
are
we
keeping
people
or
is
it
prohibitive?
I
guess
is
my
bigger
question.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
residents
across
the
county
still
have
access
to
public
comment.
G
You
know
I
look
at
it.
We've
got
two
issues,
one
we're
talking
about
the
closed
sessions.
You
know
that
we
can
tackle
I,
think
and
I
agree
on
closed
sessions,
I'm
worn
out
most
nights
when
we
do
that.
But
as
far
as
the
regular
commission
meetings,
I
would
like
I
think
that
when
you
look
for
the
majority
of
the
public
at
five
o'clock,
we
they
can
get
to
us.
But
if
you
change
them,
how
much
you
know
flight?
A
K
Briefing
I
mean
option.
One
is
definitely
something
to
consider,
but
how
does
that
impact
our
specifically
affordable
housing
in
early
childhood
if
we
were
to
go
to
a
model
like
that
is
moving
up
an
hour
earlier?
Something
that's
possible,
for
you
know
our
key
staff
to
who
are
part
of
those
committee
meetings.
That's
a
good
point.
L
A
A
A
E
A
I
do
I
do
like
the
fact
that
I
mean
I
think
the
work
sessions
are
good.
The
Briefing
sessions
are
good
and
I
like
I,
like
the
fact
that
they're,
coupled
with
our
regular
meetings,
so
that
there
are
weeks
where
we
don't
have
a
scheduled
meeting
so
I
think
that
that
allows
you
know
to
kind
of
get
just
get
more
work
done
and
things
like
that
outside
of
the
meeting.
So
but
let's,
let's
just
all
kind
of
continue
to
think
about
it,
and
we
can
definitely
follow
up
on
this
all
right.