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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Budget Meeting (May 11, 2021)
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Special Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners to discuss the FY22 Budget.
A
All
right
good
afternoon,
everyone
thank
you
for
being
with
us
for
this
budget
work
session
this
afternoon,
we're
going
to
meet
with
county's
public
schools,
partners
from
ab
tech
and
buncombe
county
schools,
asheville
city
schools,
and
then
we're
also
going
to
review
the
fire
district
tax
rate
requests
and
have
some
additional
information
from
our
staff.
So
but
we're
going
to
start
off
with
with
ab
tech.
So,
dr
gossa,
and
thank
you
both
for
being
with
us
today
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you,
gentlemen,.
B
C
C
This
is
maybe
a
little
bit
too
small
to
see,
but
this
is
an
overview
of
the
actual
revenue
sources.
You'll
see
that
the
the
county
budget
sources
include
the
general
appropriations
this
year
of
2.075
million
dollars,
and
you
can
see
that
we've
spent
about
75
percent
of
that
as
of
the
end
of
march,
and
what
we're
asking
for
is
a
200
000
increase,
although
that's
somewhere
over
a
nine
percent
increase
from
that
line,
we're
taking
into
account
that
we
have
the
five
million
dollar
draw
from
article
46.
E
C
Of
the
the
detail,
excuse
me
a
summary
of
the
expenses.
You
can
see
that
our
expenditures
for
salary
and
benefits
will
go
up
based
on
the
fact
that
there
is
a
proposed
five
percent
increase
for
for
state
employees
and
a
one
thousand
dollar
bonus,
which
we
would
like
to
that's
for
our
state
employees,
and
we
would
like
to
we
have
historically
matched
that
for
our
buncombe
county
employees.
C
C
And
how
can
we
afford
to
be
relatively
austere?
Still,
we
point
out
that
last
year
we
did
not
ask
for
an
increase
and
we
had
anticipated
that
we
had
taken
some
energy
saving
measures,
its
investments
as
a
result
of
article
46,
for
which
we're
grateful,
and
we
also
know
that
we
have
increased
and
improved
operations
as
we've
gone
through
our
fourth
year
of
the
article
46,
repairs
and
replacements
that
has
allowed
us
to
more
effect
effectively
operate.
C
And
then
we
also
have
restored
operation
of
passive
solar
units
that
were
built
about
10
years
ago
and
had
not
been
operational
for
several
years
and
so
we're
providing,
for
example,
hot
water,
solar,
heated,
hot
water
in
our
culinary
program.
At
this
point,
then
also,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
the
energy
management
modules
that
are
that
are
up
and
operational,
as
well
as
a
state-certified
energy
manager
on
staff,
who
is
now
helping
us
benchmark
and
track
what
we're
doing
and
then
and
then.
C
F
Any
questions
I
want
to
thank
you
for
a
job
well
done,
and
thank
you
too.
I
appreciate
it
might
appear
that
we
were
not
paying
attention
to
your
presentation,
but
you
got
it
to
us
in
plenty
of
time,
so
we
were
able
to
review
it.
I
read
it
all
this
weekend.
Thank
you
and
it's
well
done
and
you're
coming
in
under
the
agreed
terms
and
all
so.
Thank
you
for
good
president.
Thank.
A
G
H
H
An
example
would
be
our
teachers
in
the
arts,
our
teachers
in
health
and
physical
education,
our
world
languages.
Those
are
examples
specific
in
areas
of
teaching
that
we
depend
upon
those
local
funds
in
order
to
enrich
the
activities
and
the
courses
in
the
school
system,
office
personnel
is
also
in
paid
entirely
through
local
funds.
That's
not
a
state-funded
position,
a
number
of
our
assistants
that
are
so
important,
especially
as
we
look
at
our
k-3
curriculum.
H
G
H
H
I
thought
the
commission
had
asked
for
this
in
the
past
again,
it
shows,
as
we
move
toward
that
we
actually
have
a
an
elementary
school
teacher
that
currently
has
39
years
of
experience
and
she's
one
of
our
top
teachers
in
the
county,
which
we
had
more
of
those.
But
as
you
can
see,
that
is
a
rare
breed
of
teacher
that
that
exceeds
actually
beyond
our
25
years.
H
Another
slide
that
indicates
similar
information,
but
it's
based
upon
category
and
years
of
experience
and
I
think
from
my
standpoint.
Looking
at
those
years,
you
see
that
drop-off
occurring
from
between
years,
2024
and
25
to
29..
Now.
Why
is
that
first
glance
would
say:
that's
the
the
first
opportunity
that
many
of
our
staff
have
to
look
at
retirement
through
the
state,
but
that
does
show
the
various
differences
between
our
levels,
our
elementary
our
middle
and
our
high
school.
H
Okay,
let
me
back
this
up.
I'm
going
to
turn
this
one
over
to
mrs
frisbee.
As
you
are
well
aware
of,
we
are
been
very
fortunate
to
receive
a
number
of
pots
of
federal
funding
for
coveted
relief
and
we
we
broke
that
down
and
put
it
in
a
pie.
Chart
miss
frisbee,
I'm
going
to
ask
you
just
to
break
that
down
a
little
bit
more
for
us.
I
Thank
you,
dr
baldwin.
When
kovitz
started
on
march
13
2020,
we
almost
immediately
received
some
funds
from
the
state
I'm
going
to
refer
to
the
very
top
really
narrow,
blue
slide
up
there.
It's
called
the
governor's
emergency
fund,
so
we
we
received
699
375
dollars
that
was
available
to
us
on
march
31st
2020,
with
an
expiration
expended
date
by
june
30th.
So
the
majority
of
that
money
was
used
for
personal
protective
equipment
and
sanitation
supplies.
I
I
The
majority
of
the
funds
that
we
have
received
are
federal
funds,
so
they
run
on
the
federal
fiscal
year,
which
is
different
from
a
traditional
fiscal
year.
The
federal
money
runs
october
through
september,
so
those
funds
are
being
used
to
support
social
and
emotional
learning
and
vulnerable
populations.
I
I
I
I
We
also
have
to
apply
for
this
and
our
application
is
pending,
and
this
money
goes
until
september,
30th
2024,
so
there's
about
a
three-year
time
frame.
On
that
one
caveat
to
the
sr3
money
is
that
20
of
that
has
to
be
spent
on
learning
loss,
that
is
in
the
law,
so
the
total
amount
was
around
83.6
million
dollars,
with
the
two
esr
pots
still
being
pending
approval.
I
J
I
H
We
are
the
14th
largest
school
system
in
the
state,
so
certainly
we
are
extremely
grateful
because
I
can
promise
you
the
year
of
coven.
It
is
all
going
to
be
about
recovery
and
capital,
letters
for
our
kids
and
not
just
academic
recovery.
It's
social,
emotional
health
recovery
both
are
equally
important,
but
also
just
remind
you,
as
you
well
know,
and
ms
pender
certainly
understands.
H
Federal
funds
are
wonderful.
Coming
in,
we
always
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
there's
a
time
that
they
leave
and
sustainability,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
programs
and
programs
that
could
be
so
enriching
and
so
supportive
for
our
children.
That's
that's
a
that's
a
dilemma
that
comes
with
those
funds.
We
would
certainly.
H
H
I
can't
recall
a
single
time
where
that
hasn't
been
the
highest
of
the
three
we've
yet
to
see
any
finalized
budget
from
the
state
senate
or
the
state
house.
We
assume
that
will
come
over
the
next
several
weeks.
You
know.
Ideally
we
come
to
you
with
at
least
an
average
between
the
governors
and
one
of
those
two
bodies.
In
this
case
this
is
the
governor.
H
So
I
want
to
say
that
clearly
up
front
and
I'm
giving
you
the
best
numbers
that
we
have
available
to
us,
but
I
also
can
say
with
with
I
think,
some
assurance
that
these
these
are
high
numbers
compared
to
what
the
finalized
budget
will
be,
but
they're
non-negotiable,
because
we
don't
negotiate
those
those
are
decided
through
the
state
legislature
pay
increases
again
based
upon
the
governor's
budget,
certified
employees,
two
million,
fifty
nine
thousand
seven
hundred
and
one
dollars.
That
is
a
step
increase,
plus
five
percent
again.
H
This
is
based
on
that
single
budget
version
and
then
for
non-certified
employees
or
classified
employees
in
the
buncombe
county
school
system,
a
step
plus
three
percent
and
that
number's
at
one
million
six
hundred
fifty
five
thousand
four
hundred
thirty
nine
dollars.
So
a
total
on
salary
increases
a
loan
that
we
would
project
based
upon.
The
information
that
we
have
available
to
us
is
three
million
seven
hundred
fifteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty
dollars.
H
Eight
hundred
sixty
five
thousand
five
hundred
ninety
four
dollars
and
again
projected
based
upon
the
governor's
budget,
the
employer
paid
health
insurance
as
a
four
percent
increase
at
one
hundred
eighty
two
thousand
nine
hundred
fifty
seven
dollars.
So
that
comes
to
a
total
of
two
million
forty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
fifty
one
dollars,
and
that
equates
to
the
four
again
what
we
term
non-negotiables,
I
am
bringing
a
fifth
item
to
you.
H
H
Certainly,
I
think,
would
highlight
the
importance
of
and
the
responsibility
that
comes
to
those
board
members.
So
after
we
provided
the
analysis
and
what
we
did.
Mrs
frisbee
looked
across
the
state
we
really
centered
on
based
upon
adm
the
four
systems
that
were
just
above
us
and
the
four
systems
below
us.
H
Based
upon
that
information
provided
to
the
board.
The
request
is
that
for
our
board
chair
that
compensation
be
moved
from
350
to
1300
per
month
and
for
all
other
board
members
from
250
to
1100
per
month.
That's
an
additional
cost
of
78
154
dollars,
and
that
does
include
our
matching
fica.
So
I'm
presenting
that
to
you
as
the
fifth
component
of
our
proposal
and
based
upon
that
all
five
of
those
items,
the
request
is
at
5
million
eight
hundred
forty
one
thousand
eight
hundred
forty
five
dollars
again.
H
I
don't
think
we've
seen
a
may
15th
in
years
where
we've
been
able
to
provide
you,
100
percent,
accurate
numbers,
and
I'm
certainly
not
going
to
sit
here
and
tell
you.
We
got
anything
close
to
that
as
far
as
those
those
state
budget
numbers,
but
again
it's
the
best
that
we
can
provide
to
you
at
this
time.
H
I
want
to
mrs
frisbee.
We
had
just
a
couple
of
additional
minutes.
We
want
to
show
appreciation
for
the
contribution,
and
I
I
want
to
point
out,
mr
presley,
because
I
know
this
has
been
at
his
heart
and
that's
improving
our
playgrounds
for
our
elementary
schools
across
buncombe
county,
so
miss
frisbee.
Do
you
want
to
take
that
over.
I
So
we
wanted
to
showcase
what
the
school
community
impact
funding
did
for
these
six
schools
that
you
all
graciously
supported.
I
received
an
email
from
miss
barnett
in
the
fall
and
outlining
this,
so
we
were
just
super
excited
to
to
receive
this
money
and
we
just
wanted
to
show
you
all
how
these
funds
were
spended
spent,
so
at
inca
intermediate
school
you
can
just
see
to
me
the
the
smiles
and
the
pictures
of
the
kids
just
speak
volumes
to
how
how
grateful
they
are
for
this.
I
This
money-
and
I
wanted
to
read
each
of
the
principles
provided
a
quote
and
travis
collins
who's.
The
principal
at
inca
intermediate
said
thanks
to
our
buncombe
county
commissioner's
generosity,
along
with
the
hard
work
of
our
pto,
we
have
been
able
to
install
a
brand
new
playground
at
inca
intermediate.
You
can
see
it
has
been
a
big
hit,
so
we've
got
some
pictures
on
the
next
page,
but
just
just
the
smiles
and
the
looks
on
their
faces
was
just
incredible.
I
So
they
they
started
construction
on
eblin
on
april,
the
14th.
So
of
course,
there
won't
be
any
kids
playing
on
this
yet
because
it's
still
unconstruction,
but
mr
stowe
says
we're
so
thankful
for
this
contribution
from
our
county
commissioners,
though
our
students
are
a
little
older
than
typical
elementary
age,
they
are
still
kids.
It
has
been
great,
seeing
our
students
climb
and
swing
and
run
with
the
new
equipment
so
and
then
there's
a
picture
of
what
it
will
look
like
eventually,
north
windy
ridge.
They
have
not
started
their
project
yet
either.
I
But
mr
wise
says
this
is
a
photo
of
the
locations
for
the
new
exercise.
Equipment
which
will
be
placed
around
our
outdoor
walking
area
says.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
assistance
in
funding
this
project
for
our
students
and
then
johnston
elementary
school
received
twenty
five
hundred
dollars,
so
they
were
able
to
buy
tricycles
scooters
soccer
nets,
a
variety
of
athletic
balls
and
equipment
to
play
with,
and
just
seeing
the
smiles
on
those
students
faces
riding
the
tricycles
is
just
just
special.
I
Very
special
pisgah
elementary
school
also
received
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
and
they
built
this
climbing
wall
and
it
says:
miss
jeanne,
yates.
Our
climbing
wall
has
been
installed
and
the
students
love
the
new
addition
to
our
playground.
Equipment.
Pisgah
elementary
is
very
appreciative
of
the
funding
provided
by
buncombe
county
to
fund
the
installation
and
mulch
that
was
required
to
complete
this
project.
I
H
J
I
I
G
E
H
E
Right,
I
am
familiar
with
that.
It's
my
understanding
that
there's
not
any
current
students
from
the
other
district
there,
so
I'm
just
wondering
how
you
flesh
out
276
000,
but
then
I'm
also
looking
at
your
peers
saying.
Is
that
an
opportunity
for
you
all
sorry
to
digress
but
to
look
at
partnering
with
buncombe
county
schools
and
your
grad
program
at
asheville
high
for
cost
savings?
A
So
so
I'm
sorry
just
following
up
on
that
question,
so
the
the
community
school
kids
from
the
city
school
district
are
eligible
to
to
get
to
go
to
school
there,
but
are
they
are?
Is
there
I
mean?
I
guess
just
following
up
on
me
in
this
question:
are
there
are
there
city
school
district
kids
who
are
enrolled
there
now.
G
H
F
H
I
J
K
L
Absolutely
commission,
commissioner
sloan.
What
I'll
add
to
that
is
that
it's,
it
is
a
a
portion
of
the
local
current
expense,
total
and
buncombe
county
is
able
to
designate
that
specifically
for
that
use,
and
my
understanding
is
by
doing
the
special
designation.
You
do
not
then
have
to
share
a
percent
of
that
subset
to
charter
schools.
G
L
F
M
F
H
We
could-
and
we
certainly
have
present
a
presentation
that
we
can
provide.
We've
done
this
this
before
and
again.
When
you
talk
about
gaps,
you
know
I
tend
to
look
at
there's
ethnicity,
gaps,
there's
gaps
for
socioeconomic
there's
gaps
when
we
look
at
funding
for
our
ec
population
that
run
the
range
of
learning
disability
all
the
way
up
to
academically
gifted.
So
we
tend
to
look
that
in
a
broad,
a
very
broad
brush,
but
we
can
certainly
provide
you
that
we
did
not
bring
that
today.
H
F
H
F
F
Looking
at
apples
and
apples,
yeah
and
do-
and
I
agree
you
know,
but
I
do
think
we
need
to
look
at
that
because
I
have
you
know,
that's
a
hot
button
with
me
and
it's
always
been,
and
especially
not
only.
We
talk
about
the
race
part,
but
also
the
poor
kids,
who
are
just
disappointed,
who
are
catching
it
the
same
way
so
to
speak.
F
H
And
I
would
agree
wholeheartedly
with
that,
and
you
know
we
try
to
find
silver
linings
in
everything.
Don't
we
and
maybe
the
silver
lining
and
what
has
come
with
the
impact
of
covid
for
us
is
when
we
talk
about
recovery,
mr
whitesides,
I
can
promise
you
that
that
we're
looking
at
every
aspect
of
the
child
every
subgroup
and
what
is
the
recovery,
because
I
don't
think,
there's
any
particular
group
category
of
our
students
that
has
not
been
in
some
form
or
fashion
negatively
impacted.
N
And
I
just
want
to
add
on
to
that
when
you're,
when
you're
bringing
that
information
to
us,
I'm
always
interested
in
the
growth.
So
I
agree
it's
really
important
to
dig
down
into
that
data,
but
the
growth.
You
know
that
you're,
seeing
throughout
the
year
that
the
teachers
are
working
with
the
students
because
that's
beyond
just
where
they
come
into
the
school,
but
where
you're
actually
seeing
that
growth
with
their
education,
you're.
A
What
what
are
the
county
schools
seeing
currently
right
now
in
terms
of
like
the
the
growth
in
the
district
in
terms
of
student
population,
and
it
has
what's
happened
this
year-
kind
of
scrambling
that
so
much
that
we're
going
to
need
to
kind
of
like
wait
a
little
bit
before
we
sort
of
see
how
things
are
settling
out
as
we
come
out
of
cova,
but
just
in
terms
of
your
student
population
in
the
district.
What
are
the?
What
are
the
trends
that
you're
forecasting
right
now
and
seeing
right
now.
H
Well,
I
think
total
numbers
we've
seen,
certainly
a
decrease.
I
don't
think
that's
unusual
in
the
vast
majority
of
systems
across
the
state
public
k-12,
but
one
area
in
particular
I
think
has
my
primary
concern
is
that
is
the
kindergartners
that
were
scheduled
for
this
year
because
it
was
a
far
lower
number
than
we
would
expect
pre-covered.
H
H
H
So
if
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
significant
numbers
coming
in
that
should
have
been
in
that
kindergarten
this
year
and
what
does
that
mean
when
we
anticipate
a
much
more
pre-covered
normal
number
of
kindergartners
or
if
those
kindergartners
age-wise
for
this
year,
move
into
the
first
grade
next
year?
What
does
that
do
with
those
numbers?
So
that's.
That's
one
area
in
particular
a
pattern
that
that
we
are.
We
are
very
much
focused
on
chairman
newman.
A
So,
commissioner,
wells
and
I
had
a
quick
phone
call
with
senator
mayfield
right
before
our
meeting
just
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
for
because,
as
you
as
as
you
all
are
sharing
you
know,
we
don't
know
what
the
final
numbers
are
going
to
be,
of
course,
from
the
state.
So
we
just
put
in
a
quick
call
to
see.
Were
there
any
updates
and
of
course
she
said,
I
also
don't
know
right.
A
So
I
think
I
think
what
she
shared
with
us
is
probably
pretty
similar
to
the
presentation
from
the
county
schools
in
terms
of
here's,
the
governor's
proposal,
that's
probably
the
highest
the
high
the
highest
numbers
they
could
be
so
could
be
less
than
that.
So
this
is
always
one
of
the
challenges.
Just
the
timing
on
this,
so
hopefully
we'll
get
further
guidance
and
clarification
from
the
from
the
capital
during
our
process,
but
we
just
won't
know
that
for
sure,
until
we
kind
of
live
into
this,
so
thank
you
for
sharing
the
presentation
today.
A
O
O
O
This
was
something
that
had
been
talked
about
for
a
while.
We
were
able
with
our
partners
to
do
this
within
five
months
of
saying
we
were
going
to
do
it
and
having
it
actually
done
in
those
housing
developments,
and
we
couldn't
have
done
it
without
our
team
effort
and
for
those
folks
through
our
foundation.
O
We
also
for
our
kids
that
were
most
disenfranchised
when
kovitz
started.
In
march,
we
took
the
kids
that
were
missing
for
basically
two
months,
found
them
and
put
them
in
community
pods,
and
we
served
about
200
of
the
neediest
students,
academically
and
economically
throughout
our
community-based
pods.
O
O
As
I
said
earlier,
our
new
student
enrollment
is
the
highest
it's
been
in
years,
and
the
district
continues
to
participate
and
take
part
in
racial
equity
institute,
which
is
a
great
workshop.
If
anybody
ever
wants
to
take
part
in
that,
our
goals
for
21
22
school
year
are
to
improve
academics
for
all
students,
with
an
intentional
focus
on
our
african-american
students
and
other
disenfranchised
groups
of
students,
as
indicated
by
the
data,
and
we
do
have
data
from
two
years
ago.
O
80
percent
of
our
african-american
students
grades
three
through
five,
did
not
pass
the
end
of
grade
test,
that's
more
than
an
instructional
issue.
It's
a
disenfranchisement
issue,
so
we're
going
to
work
on
that.
Also,
we
will
be
benchmark
assessing
our
students
throughout
the
year
four
times
a
year,
so
that
at
the
end
of
grade
or
end
of
class
testing,
it
will
not
be
a
surprise
where
students
are.
We
at
central
office
will
work
with
principals
and
teachers
to
ensure
that
they
have
the
tools
to
move
students
through
that
data.
O
We're
going
to
look
at,
and
we've
already
started,
working
with
a
new
disciplinary
practice
at
reducing
the
number
of
all
students
having
discipline
issues,
but
particularly
our
black
students
and
our
young
black
male
students
and
we're
increasing
opportunities,
like
dr
baldwin
said,
for
social
and
emotional
learning
within
the
school
district
and
growing.
Our
pre-k
program
is
important
to
build
that
foundation
and
using
data
to
make
sure
those
children
are
prepared,
because
what
we
found
with
the
children
entering
our
k
programs,
they
were
not
ready.
O
We
will
continue
to
work
with
the
school
board
to
align
our
finances
with
district
goals.
I've
been
there
for
a
year.
I've
been
saying
like
a
broken
record
over
and
over.
We
have
to
look
at
our
finances
because
we're
headed
for
a
brick
wall
we're
going
to
work
with
the
board
of
education
to
find
cost
reductions
for
the
long
term
and
sustainability
of
programs
and
as
in
schools.
If
we
can
now,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
ms
harvey
for
the
budget.
P
Good
afternoon
before
I
start,
I
did
not
do
a
slide
on
covid,
but
I
would
like
to
say
that
our
our
cova
dollars
pretty
much
match
the
percentage
that
we
get
in
local
funding
for
buncombe
county.
So
if
we
get
15
of
local
funds
from
the
the
county,
educational
budget,
that's
what
we
get
in
the
that's.
What
we've
been
getting
in
the
covit,
the
esser,
2
and
3-
is
approximately
10
million
dollars
anticipated
and
dr
freeman
has
said
many
times,
just
like
the
buncombe
county
schools,
presentation,
sustainability.
O
There
is,
there
has
been
monies
like
this
before
in
school
districts,
and
the
issue
is
that
you
can't
create
programs
that
can't
that
that
can't
be
sustained
in
the
future.
You
can,
with
some
of
this
money,
pay
social
workers
counselors
as
long
as
it
has
to
do
with
covid,
but
there's
an
end
to
that
funding.
So
you
have
to
build
that
within
the
budget
that
there's
capacity
to
pay
those
people
from
the
general
budget
once
esser
money
is
gone.
P
P
O
Georgia,
if
you
don't
mind,
would
you
go
back
to
the
slide
before
this?
Please
the
issue
with
having
to
do
this?
Was
we
had
people
with
the
same
amount
of
experience
all
making
different
money
over
time?
People
have
been
hired
and
been
given
salaries
that
were
were
very
different,
and
so
the
importance
of
this
was
to
get
all
those
folks
on
an
even
playing
field.
As
we
move
forward.
A
We've
been
doing
a
similar
kind
of
process
with
the
county
as
well,
so
we
think
we
can
relate
to
that.
It
seems
like
a
you
know.
Good
practice
did
so.
It
was
more
kind
of
aligning
the
employees
internally
with
their
peers,
as
opposed
to
sort
of
comparing
asheville
city
school
employees
with
teacher
pay
across
the
country
across
the
state.
More
of
an
internal
analysis.
O
F
F
P
O
O
Dr
short,
I
was
interim
with
dr
short
when
this
happened
and
the
board
thought
it
was
more
fair
to
go
ahead
and
implement
this
all
at
once.
We
could
have
spread
it
over
three
years,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
the
I
would
not
have
known
mr
al
that
there
was
a
discrepancy
in
salaries,
but
I
had
so
many
people
coming
to
me
saying.
Why
is
this
person
getting
this,
so
the
decision
was
made
to
implement
it
all
at
once
and
then
several
of
the
questions
were.
Are
you
going
back
and
making
up?
O
F
F
O
I
mean
and
that's
a
great
question
and
we
need
to
talk
about
it
and
we
need
to
answer
it
and
I
can
give
you
answers
from
a
one
year
experience
there,
but
I
will
tell
you.
I
have
brought
many
ideas
and-
and
what
I
hear
when
I'm
here
and
I've
been
here
for
a
year,
is
make
it
better,
but
don't
change
anything
and
when
you
have
to
change
things,
it's
hard.
E
E
F
P
O
P
P
I
just
can't
tell
you
how
much
hypothetically
we
spend
all
of
the
3
million
that
we
appropriated
that
will
only
leave
us
2
million
in
our
fund
balance
for
fun
2..
I
show
you
the
other
fund
balance,
which
is
fund
8..
We
we
pay
our
local
supplement
out
of
that
and
it
has
restricted
and
unrestricted
funds.
P
K
P
P
P
P
P
P
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
year
we
used,
we
have
budgeted
3
million
in
fund
2
fund
balance,
1
1.2
minimum
in
fund
8
to
meet
that
31
million
dollars
in
the
budget
next
year.
We
are,
of
course,
not
budgeting.
The
fund
balance
to
meet
our
proposed
budget,
which
is
what
we
should
do.
We
should
not
rely
on
that
from
year
to
year,
we
should
budget
within
what
the
revenues
were
given.
P
So
we're
looking
at
an
increase
in
the
county
general
fund,
we're
asking
that
the
city
tax
stay
at
12,
not
the
revenue
neutral
and
the
sales
tax
fund,
8
that
we
received
that
was
given
to
us
by
the
county.
Fines
and
forfeitures
are
an
estimate.
We
are
far
below
that
this
year,
of
course,
because
of
the
cove
situation.
O
Georgia
would
you,
I
think
it's
important.
I
don't
know
what
your
next
slide
is,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
talk
about.
We
have
a
reduction
from
the
previous
year.
What
goes
into
that?
That
could
change
based
on
board
decisions,
because
that
will
change
everything
and
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
brought
up.
P
The
looking
at
the
projected
budget
for
next
year,
based
on
plans
for
reduction
through
retirement
and
resignations
non-replacement
of
staff
and
closing
a
facility
for
education,
we're
looking
at
a
reduction
in
the
salaries,
the
payroll
taxes
and
then
in
the
bottom,
half
purchase
services,
property
services
and
utilities,
supplies
and
materials,
etc.
So
in
this
30
million
dollars
that
takes
into
account
the
savings
that
we
are
projecting
and
already
working
on
for
next
year
and.
P
O
So
if,
if,
if
the
board
makes
a
decision,
I
mean
just
let's
be
frank
to
keep
aps
open,
then
that
million
and
a
half
goes
or
close
to
a
million
and
a
half
is
added.
We
have
also
not
replaced
central
office
staff
as
a
retired.
We
have
three
positions
that
we're
not
replacing
and
we
will
be
continuing
as
people
to
retire,
not
to
replace
them.
O
We're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
every
avenue
so
that
we
do
not
have
to
furlough
folks
and
furloughing
is
much
more
complicated
than
it's
much
more
complicated
and
it's
horrific
I've
had
to
do
it.
In
my
experience
before,
we've
got
to
find
ways
that
we're
not
disrupting
the
morale
of
our
human
capital
and
that's
what
it
will
do
if
we
have
to
go
in
that
direction,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
whatever
the
decision
of
the
board
and
I'm
these
are
just
facts.
G
E
E
I'll
pull
it
down
over
here
by
myself,
so
I'll
try
to
reiterate
here.
I
appreciate
the
budget
meeting
last
thursday
evening
I
tuned
in
as
well
as
last
night,
which
I'm
grateful
for
that
opportunity.
Since
this
is
the
first
information
we
have
today
from
you
all,
I
vaguely
remember
I
made
a
note.
While
I
was
listening,
that
3.5
positions
were
being
reduced
or
cut
at
central
office.
What
are
those
specific
positions.
O
O
K
Fun
balance
question
again,
so
just
can
you
all
if
you
said,
eight
percent
is
sort
of
a
ballpark,
so
to
get
to
a
place
where
you
felt
sort
of
fiscally
healthy
and
and
felt
like
the
system
was
kind
of
having
the
vital
signs.
You'd
want
from
a
financial
perspective.
You'd
want
you'd
want
the
fund
balance
to
be
registering
about
eight
percent,
so
about
two
and
a
half
million.
Is
that
right
off
the
31
million.
O
O
A
J
A
Right
slide,
25
15
25
go
yeah,
go
further
up
one
more
there.
We
are
so
for
the
current
the
current
budget
year,
it's
just
over
31
million
and
then
the
for
2022
the
request-
it's
just
over
30
million,
so
about
900
thousand
dollars
lower
just
for
some
of
the
high
level
numbers,
but
you
mentioned
1.5
million
difference.
A
O
If
the
board
votes
to,
depending
on
the
different
scenarios,
we
gave
the
board,
if
the
board
votes
to
leave
aps
open
for
all
students,
then
the
efficiencies
of
not
duplicating
employment
at
other
schools
is
going
to
tack
on
over
a
million
dollars
on
that,
so
that
budget
was
built
with
efficiencies
of
consolidating
where
we
have
capacity
to
do
so,
I
mean
I
couldn't
wait
for
a
board
decision
to
put
this
together,
and
you
know
we.
We
came
with
our
best
ideas
about
how
to
balance
this
budget.
O
There's
going
to
have
to
be
some
very
hard
conversations
and
we
can
certainly
start
at
the
top,
but
you
can't
furlough
enough
people
we're
going
to
have
to
build
efficiencies
into
our
daily
operations
of
this
school
district.
For
us
to
be
able
to
break
even
or
do
a
little
better,
you
will
not
be
able
to
reduce
staff
fast
enough
or
efficiently
enough,
without
also
combining
that
with
organizational
efficiencies.
A
O
There
shouldn't
be
too
many
more,
not
not
with
aps,
but
it's
a
million
and
a
half
or
somewhere
in
that
vicinity
of
efficiencies
built.
If
we
consolidate
schools
and-
and
there
again
you've
got
two
schools-
a
half
a
mile
apart-
that
have
500
500
capacity
at
each
one
and
they're,
basically
50
and
sixty
percent
populated
with
students.
O
A
O
A
O
Q
O
O
It
was
answered
by
staff
staffing.
We
have
more
assistant
principals
than
or
allotted
by
the
state,
and
I
don't
want
to
pick
on
any
group
but,
for
example,
our
aig
program.
The
state
pays
for
please
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
three
or
three
and
a
half
positions,
we
have
how
many
nine
nine
but
and
I'm
not
knocking
hey,
I'm
just
trying
to
george
and
I
find
these
things
almost
daily
about
the
efficiencies.
O
You
know
our
food
program,
which
has
lost
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
or
two
years,
four
hundred
thousand
that
we
have
to
make
up
in
our
local
budget.
You
know
we
can.
We
can
contract
that
out
to
a
private
entity
that
would
hire
our
staff
or
we
should
hold
that
department
accountable
for
at
least
breaking.
Even
we
are
one
of
two
districts
based
on
our
auditor
that
does
not
have
well
savings
through
the
food
service
program.
O
People
have
districts
have
millions
of
dollars
that
they've
made
on
their
food.
For
it
I
mean
it
there's
I
can
go
on
and
on
about
the
efficiencies
that
we
need
to
build
in.
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
you
know,
I
really
care
about
the
school
district
and
I
care
about
these
children,
but
this
is
tough.
O
I
want
everybody
knowing
here.
This
is
tough
when,
when
the
staff
that's
trying
to
bring
the
facts,
are
criticized
yeah
I've
all
gotten
the
emails
every
step
we
make.
No
wonder
superintendents,
don't
stay
here,
you
know,
and
if
we
don't
do
something
that
is
going
to
make
some
group
angry
and
if
people
don't
let
us
do
our
job.
I
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
I'm
very
sincere
about
this.
I've
I've
had
it
to
about
here.
F
Well,
you
know,
I
think,
let's
talk
about
having
it.
I
think
the
citizens
have
had
it
too,
because
when,
as
you
talk
about
all
these
employees,
that
you
have
all
the
system
principles
you
have,
why
do
we
still
have
the
large
achievement
gap?
What
are
these
people
doing?
You
know
what
you
know.
I'm
hearing
us
talk
about
what
we're
going
to
do
for
efficiency
like
I
was
working
at
the
bank
talking
about
the
stockholders
making
money.
Does
anybody
give
a
darn
about
the
kids?
F
I
don't
see
any
compassion
here
or
we
care
about
the
students
in
the
school
system.
They
are
the
ones
who
are
being
messed
over.
You
know,
and
if
you
you
know,
you
talk
about
superintendents
the
last
three
superintendents
we've
had
here,
including
you
have
not
brought
anything
but
mayhem
to
the
school
system.
F
N
A
A
G
E
To
combine
here,
I
know
that
dr
cassidy's
proposal,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
having
to
look
at
the
screenshot
I
took
from
last
night,
the
as
is
proposal
number
one.
It
looks
like
for
total
capital
improvement
and
safety
costs.
We're
looking
at
about
5.7
million
dollars
should
no
changes
be
made
to
the
primary
school
facility.
E
Should
that
be
the
decision
that
is
made
what
what
doesn't
get
done
for
students
throughout
the
district?
I
really
appreciate,
I'm
not
sure,
miss
hervey.
If
it
was
you
last
week
or
if
it
was
dr
cassada
on
thursday,
who
said
you
know,
you
have
to
look
at
a
building
that
serves
100
students
versus
an
asheville
high
that
serves
you
know,
potentially
every
single
student
that
comes
through
the
district,
so
you
think
about
it
in
those
terms
and
you
put
5.7
million
into
one
facility.
E
Essentially
what
does
that
do
for
the
rest
of
the
district
and
the
students,
all
students
within
the
district,
and
so
I
I
look
at
you
too,
dr
freeman,
to
say
you
know
what
is
what
it?
What
are
your
thoughts
around
that
as
superintendent,
and
you
know
what
are
what
are
your
opinions
and
thoughts?
What's
the
best
decision
to
be
made
there?
O
O
O
A
I
know
the
building
needs
a
lot
of
work
but
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
needs,
but
if
we
don't
do
some
things
for
the
building,
the
building
will
become
completely
non-usable
like
we'll,
basically
lose
the
building
right
I
mean.
If
we
don't,
if
we
don't
invest
in
it,
it
will
just
it
will.
It
will
go
from
poor
condition
to
losing
any
of
its
useful
life
for
things
other
than
just
the
most
rudimentary
of
you
know,
kind
of
purposes,
and
even
those
at
some
point.
So
I
just
I
do.
A
I
hope
we,
you
know
hope
all
of
us
will
look
at
look.
Look
at
the
long
term.
I
mean
there's
some
short-term
decisions
that
have
to
be
made,
and
I
and
I
get
I
get
that
and
I
get
the
the
reasoning
behind
some
of
those
changes,
but
but
I
just
would
encourage
us
to
think
about
the
the
long
term
for
that
campus,
not
just
the
short
term.
Mr
sloane,
you
said
you
had
some
questions.
J
P
J
J
P
J
P
J
Yeah,
just
a
little
bit
more
so
it
sounds
like
some
future
expenditures.
Also
backfilling
money,
you've
already
spent
on
things
like
filters,
yes,
you're
kind
of
get
to
the
just
to
my
question-
is
how
much
is
kind
of
like
backfilling,
ass
expenditures
and
how
much
is
helping
students
recover
moving
forward.
So
I'd
love
to
see
a
little
more
detail.
Correct
that'd
be
great.
F
M
So,
thank
you,
commissioners.
James
carter,
new
board,
chair
three
weeks
now
feels
like
three
years
so
at
our
board
meeting
yesterday,
we
had
a
presentation
that
was
given
several
different
scenarios
for
what
can
happen
with
aps,
specifically
around
our
preschool
our
pre-k
program,
not
not
including
the
montessori
side.
So
I
always
like
to
tell
people
I
look
at
the
school.
I
break
it
up
into
two
sections.
The
right
side
is
pre-k.
The
left
side
is
montessori,
so
we
were
looking
at.
M
We
were
given
different
options
that
would
take
that
could
possibly
take
place
depending
on
what
happens
when
we
vote
on
the
24th
at
the
top
end
is
the
3
million
that
would
be
for
11
classrooms
that
would
be
for
to
cover
the
deficit
there.
That
would
be
classrooms
in
the
community
as
well
as
expanding
into
our
into
our
school
elementary
schools
classrooms.
There.
M
M
So
one
of
the
things
that
in
the
presentation
that
we
were
given,
that
if
we
move
the
montessori
school
from
aps
over
to
hall
fletcher,
there
are
updates
that
would
have
to
be
made
to
the
building.
One
is
a
sprinkler
system,
and
so
there's
there's
money
there.
That
would
have
to
go
into
that
update
to
bring
it
up
to
code
if
we
were
to
move
from
one
to
the
other
and
take
it
and
then
using
part
of
that
as
the
montessori
side,
as
maintenance
facilities,
child
nutrition
and
so
forth.
M
So
that's
where
that
that
three
million
that
we
would
like
the
commissioners
to
consider
would
be
pre-k
specific
to
just
help
with
the
pre-k
side
of
the
of
the
building
and
again
there
are
that's
the
high
end,
there's
a
low
end.
If
we
don't
go
into
any
community
locations
and
we
just
stay
with
our
schools,
there's
a
different
amount
there
than
it
would
be.
If
we
were
to
go
into
maple
crest,
lonnie
d
burton
and
so
forth,.
K
Okay,
well,
I
appreciate
that
context.
I'm
trying
to
just
wrap
this.
I
wrap
my
head
around
sort
of
how
this
relates
to
the
series
of
proposals
we
heard
from
the
school
system
that
mapped
out
different
scenarios
and
sort
of
had
different
budgetary
amounts
and,
and
just
another
point
of
clarification
does.
Is
the
school
system
planning
to
use
the
historically
about
850
000
of
the
local
tax
supplement
has
been
used
for
preschool
programming,
including
pre-k,
as
a
school
system
planning
to
continue
doing
that.
P
K
M
No,
this
is
this
is
just
for
aps
yeah.
This
is
just
this
is
just
for
our
pre-k.
This
is
for
the
pre-k
program
again,
I
know
that
you
have
seen
a
plethora
of
different
options
given
to
you
and
as
the
new
board
chair.
That
was
something
that
I
asked
that
we
have
as
a
good
presentation
on
what
we
were
wanting
to
do
and
where
we
were
wanting
to
go
there
are,
there
would
be
classrooms
at
lucy
herring,
there's
currently
classrooms
at
jones,
paul
fletcher
isaac
dixon.
M
M
R
M
O
G
M
F
Well,
how
much
will
it
cost
to
move
when
you
talk
about
you
know
this
3
million
is
just
for
the
preschool
or
the
primary
school.
I'm
sorry
I
mean
how
much
is
it
going
to
cost
you
when
you
move
into
the
other
schools
carrying
the
other,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
upfit
those
classrooms
for
pre-k?
But
you
know
you
have
to
follow
state
standards
and
that's.
M
Do
have
that
information.
I
do
know
that
in
talking
to
susannah
smith
as
well
as
shane
cassida,
that
there
are
things
that
happen
there,
their
grandfathered
in
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
don't
have
to
do.
We
do
retain,
after
speaking,
with
suzanne
miss
smith.
Last
night
we
do
retain
our
five-star
status
as
long
as
we
stay
in
our
schools.
R
M
The
3
million
that
we
are
that
we
were
asking
for
here
is
is
basically
as
a
is
to
help
us
get
back
to
where
we
need
to
be
to
be
honest
with
you
and
some
in
some
areas,
with
making
sure
that
we
have
all
of
the
the
upfits
that
we
need,
because
there's
a
lot
of
money,
you
saw
five
million
dollars.
I
think
commissioner
edwards
mentioned
five
million
dollars.
M
O
F
We
need
because,
what's
been
confusing
to
me,
the
ones
of
us
on
the
pre-k
committee,
you
know
every
time
we
get
a
proposal
from
you
guys.
It's
never
the
same,
not
even
close.
Really.
You
know.
I
wish
you
would
get
your
act
together
and
give
us
some
good
information
so
that
we'll
feel
comfortable
with
it,
because
everything
I've
seen
today
I
mean
I
don't.
M
And
commissioner
whiteside,
I
I'll
be
honest
it.
This
is
it's
hard
on
both
sides.
Okay,
and
I
appreciate
that
the
information
that
we
are
being
given,
but
we
have
a
new
we're
starting
off
on
a
new
foot,
we're
starting
off
with
a
new
board
essentially-
and
I
ask
that
y'all-
give
us
some
some
leeway,
because
I
know
that
there
have
been
a
lot
of
different
things.
I
hear
it
from
the.
R
O
O
O
Capacity
when
we
had
our
folks
over
you
have
economies
of
scale,
you
don't
need
five
librarians.
You
need
two
librarians,
you
don't
need.
You
know
eight
custodians.
You
need
four
custodians.
The
other
thing
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
increasing
some
of
our
class
sizes.
There's
a
state
mandate
for
grades
k
through
three,
of
course,
but
some
of
our
classrooms
have
12
and
14
students
in
them.
E
Well
I'll
say
I
can
certainly
appreciate
having
worked
at
an
international
organization
that
went
to
through
two
restructurings
to
right
size,
the
organization
I
know
these
decisions
are
not
easy,
and
I
appreciate
hearing
from
the
three
of
you.
I
do
not
feel
that
anyone
is
taking
those
decisions
lightly
today
and
acknowledging
that
they
are
very,
very
difficult
and
the
growing
pains
within
a
community
are
challenging,
and
I
appreciate
the
manner
in
which
you're
addressing
them
chairman
carter.
E
Welcome
to
your
role,
I
will
say
it
for
me
personally.
I
like
to
have
a
lot
of
time
to
comb
through
the
documents
that
are
put
in
front
of
me,
as
I'm
seeing
other
heads
across
me,
nodding
as
well
manager.
Pender
can
speak
to
that
too.
So
it
is.
It
is
a
bit
frustrating
to
come
in
today,
not
having
had
the
opportunity
to
fully
review
url's
requests
to
to
really
be
fully
prepared
to
ask
the
questions
that
I
would
normally
like
to
ask
again.
E
E
That
kind
of
attention
had
been
put
into
closing
that
program
and
that
school
in
the
manner
in
which
you
all
are
addressing
the
primary
school
potential
move.
I'm
not
calling
it
a
closure,
it's
a
potential
move
of
facilities,
but
I
will
say
I
continue
to
hear
the
thought,
thoughtfulness
and
the
questions
being
put
into
it
and
in
some
ways-
and
I
know
that's-
that's
old
news-
it
breaks
my
heart
that
that
kind
of
care
and
compassion
wasn't
put
into
place
for
so
many
of
our
students
of
color
in
a
successful
program.
E
F
M
K
F
K
So
I'm
wanting
to
just
maybe
maybe
staff
can
help
us
just
think
through
the
timeline
around
us.
Getting
the
most
updated
information
and-
and
you
know
I
want
to
just
take
a
moment
to
try
to-
I
guess-
reinforce
what
we've
been
trying
to
say,
which
is
that
our
as
the
county
works
to
support
the
expansion
of
early
child
education
and
specifically
pre-k.
We.
K
We
have
always
seen
national
city
schools
as
a
leader
in
that
process
and
an
invaluable
partner
as
one
of
the
largest
providers
of
an
incredible
program
and
up
until
this
year
have
there's
been
a
lot
of
momentum
and
growth
in
that
relationship.
And
I
we
have
hit
some
bumps
on
the
road
this
year
and
and
that
happens
certainly.
K
K
But
I
don't
want
that
fact
to
obscure
what
our
larger
longer
term
vision
is,
which
is
that
acs
is
a
is,
is
got
to
be
at
the
not
just
at
the
table,
but
helping
to
lead
efforts
to
continue
expanding
access
to
pre-k
in
early
child
education
and
that
the
county
is
it
needs
to.
You
know
there
needs
to
be
a
strong
collaborative
relationship
around
that.
So,
however,
we
move
forward
in
the
weeks
ahead.
K
R
A
All
right
any
other
questions,
commissioners,
I
just
one
last,
maybe
it's
a
comment,
not
a
question,
but
you
know
the
you
know,
mr
freeman.
I
recognize
again
you've
been
here
a
year,
so
I
do
appreciate
that
and
a
lot
of
these
issues.
You
know
these
are
issues
that
we've
been
as
a
community
they're,
not
new,
but
just
a
couple
of
you
know
just
comments
on
the
discussion
today.
So
in
terms
of
the
city,
schools,
locally,
paid
staff,
I
got
the
numbers
right
so
because
we
just
heard
from
the
county
schools.
A
My
kids
have
really
gotten
so
much
out
of
it.
I
mean
it's
a
district
that
in
many
ways
has
some
of
the
highest
achievement
metrics
of
any
school
district
in
the
in
the
entire
state,
but
but
then
we
also
see
that
there's.
You
know
that
a
lot
of
our
kids
are
not
thriving
there,
and
so
you
know
in
terms
of
this
issue
of
the
city's
supplemental
tax,
right
where
this
is
this
great
resource
that
the
city
school
district
has.
That
is
pretty
rare.
A
If
we
can
create
more,
you
know
kind
of
more
efficiencies
in
the
in
the
organization
itself,
because
I
think
the
hope
would
be
that
more
of
those
resources
could
be
invested
in
really
focused
ways
to
help
the
kids
who
we
all
want
to
see
doing
better.
You
know
the
kids
who
are
coming
from
the
harder
circumstances,
the
lowest.
A
You're
not
going
to
make
any.
This
ship
is
going
to
turn
slowly
in
some
ways
when
we're
talking
about
those
larger
dynamics.
But
I
think
that's
a
conversation,
that's
important
for
us
to
to
have
that.
We
have
this
great
city
district
tax
resource,
but
then,
when
we
think
about
what
we're
trying
to
strategically
accomplish
accomplished
with
it
over
the
long
term,
I
feel
like
it's
something
that
we
just
need
to
put
more
conversations
into
that
as
a
community.
A
Both
from
you
know
in
terms
of
conversations
with
the
schools,
and
I
mean
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
the
school's
decision
on
how
to
use
those
those
funds.
Although
we
have
to
make
the
decisions
around
where
to
where
to
set
that
rate-
and
I
will
say
that
that's
you
know,
that
is
a
hard
decision
for
us.
A
So
that's
part
of
what
we
wrestle
with
on
our
side
is
that
that
decision
around,
where
to
set
our
own
tax
rate
and
then
secondarily,
where
to
set
the
city's
school
district,
supplemental
tax
rate.
On
top
of
that
those
are
those
are
tough
decisions
on
our
side,
because
they
can
do
a
lot
of
good,
but
they
also
are
directly
falling
on
the
shoulders
of
the
very
families,
and
that
that
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
do
to
support
and
provide
a
good
place
to
live
so
anyway.
A
O
O
Should
set
up
meetings
four
times
a
year
that
you
hear
some
basics,
you
know
where
our
finances
and
two
with
our
benchmark
assessment.
How
are
students
doing?
I
don't
know
if
you
can
afford
to
give
us
30
minutes
four
times
a
year,
but
I
think
you
would
know
more
about
what
we're
doing
here
and
maybe
that
help
could
help
the
comments
you
get
from
the
community
as
well
as
you
knowing
what's
going
on
in
the
district.
Mr
carter,
I
didn't
even
ask
you
about
this
and.
M
M
M
She
had
a
student
of
color,
a
black
male
who
scored
44
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
and
he
was
the
only
person
to
score
a
perfect
100
on
the
test
that
they
did
the
other
day
out
of
all
of
the
kids,
and
I
think
that
that
is
for
me.
That
is
why
we're
here
it's
to
celebrate,
but
also
make
sure
that
other
students
are
having
that
that
same
achievement.
M
His
parents
were
really
involved,
and
I
say
this
a
lot-
our
achievement
gap,
our
opportunity
gap,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
is-
is
huge
right
now,
but
it's
it
goes
both
ways
we
need
help
from
the
community
as
well
as
our
teachers.
So,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
great
success
story
when
she
told
me
that
I
I
I
was
like
how
can
we
get
this
everywhere,
but
he
was
the
only
child
to
score
a
perfect
100.
D
M
G
F
F
A
A
A
A
L
L
L
This
will
include
sharing
some
information
on
the
asheville
city's
asheville
city,
schools,
supplemental
tax
rate
comparison,
so
the
revenue
neutral
rate
and
then
the
12
cent
and
the
associated
revenue
each
year.
The
budget
office
works
to
provide
fire
districts
projections
in
march
for
their
ad
valorem
property
tax
revenue
at
an
estimated
collection
rate,
as
well
as
an
associated
sales
tax,
projection
same
as
a
requirement
to
calculate
a
revenue
neutral
tax
rate
for
the
county
property
tax.
L
So
this
is
a
summary
table.
The
county
manager
is
recommending
tax
rates,
as
outlined
here
by
district
on
the
left.
Side
of
the
slide
are
the
eight
that
are
requesting
to
maintain
a
revenue
neutral
rate
and
then
the
12
on
the
right
are
either
requesting
to
stay
at
their
current
rate,
or
it's
reflected
the
six
districts
that
are
going
slightly
over
their
current
rate
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions
or
if
you
have
any
specific
questions
from
the
information.
A
L
So
so
there
is
a
handout
chairman
newman
in
the
packet
that
was
provided
to
you
today
and
was
also
posted.
I
do
believe,
with
the
agenda
materials
today
specific
to
the
districts
that
are
requesting
over
revenue
neutral,
and
then
we
have
detailed
budget
submissions
from
each
of
those
individual
districts
that
I'm
happy
to
share.
If
you,
if
there
is
a
specific
district,
we
thought
that
might
be
overkill
to
provide
each
of
those
individual
narratives,
but
districts
have
have
worked
to
make
those
available.
A
A
K
Question
I
always
appreciate
that
getting
to
hear
from
chiefs-
and
you
all
have
done
a
good
job,
keeping
us
educated
year
in
year
out
and
a
lot
of
what
we're
seeing
here,
sort
of
tracks
with
some
of
the
trends
you've
shared
with
us.
I
just
wondered
if
there's
anything,
sort
of
new
or
emergent
that
that
you
all
think
we
should
know
about
in
terms
of
the
demand
on
services
or
issues
in
the
field
around
health
and
safety
issues.
S
So,
of
course,
we're
at
dennis
fagnet
west
buncombe.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I
definitely
don't
want
to
speak
for
for
all
the
chiefs,
so
if
anybody
has
anything
to
add
after
this,
please
do
as
far
as
emerging
command
trends,
of
course,
covert.
We
all
know
that
that's
not
going
to
going
away
anytime,
soon
and
probably
soon
to
revisit
us
as
we
go
into
the
fall
months.
We
probably
get
this
little
reprieve
now,
but
we'll
go
back
into
this.
S
I
think
what
you
also
have
to
look
at
for
many
of
the
districts,
including
mine,
is
when
we
went
through
this
reassessment.
We
said
business
costs.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
cost
to
do
business,
and
so
for
many
years
for
many
fire
districts,
we
tried
our
very
best
to
remain
low,
but
that
got
us
really
far
behind,
and
so,
as
you
deep
and
dive
into
our
budget
request,
which
which
I'm
certain
all
of
us
hope
you
do,
you'll
notice
that
there's
aging
equipment
asian
facilities
in
my
particular
situation.
This
will
be
year.
S
Three,
I
will
get
my
starting
pay
up
to
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
for
all
new
personnel
or
all
personnel.
Everybody
will
be
making
that
minimum
also
able
to
decompress
in
the
lower
ranks
myself
and
the
senior
officers
will
worry
about
ours
many
years
down
the
road,
but
we
wanted
to
take
care
of
those,
because
the
reality
is
is
I
have
very
few
firefighters
that
live
in
buncombe
county.
They
simply
just
can't
afford
to
live
here.
S
Aside
from
that
sky,
island
and
west
buncombe
are
only
two
of
the
fire
districts
that
are
currently
part
of
the
local
government
retirement
system,
but
through
legislation
that
we're
we're
very
hopeful
and
very
positive
will
prevail
in
in
the
house,
both
sponsoring
as
one
republican
one
democrat
in
the
ways
and
means
committee.
So
what
that
means
is
the
remaining
fire
districts
are
going
to
have
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
that
local
government
retirement
system.
S
That's
a
huge
benefit
to
our
our
firefighters
that
currently
either
have
a
modified
plan
or
no
plan
at
all
for
retirement
other
than
social
security.
So
this
constitutes
about
a
twelve
percent
contribution
for
the
fire
departments.
In
addition
to
a
seven
percent
contribution
on
the
employee
side,
and
so
as
you
look
through
the
budgets,
I
think
you're
going
to
see
a
lot
of
fire
departments
preparing
for
that
now
to
be
able
to
put
that
aside
either
for
into
401ks
or
just
preparing
themselves.
S
Emerging
trends
to
keep
on
is
there's
no
secret
about
our
population
growth
and
therefore
the
demand
for
services
and
the
increased
call
volumes.
That
too
impacted
my
budget
with
the
request
of
six
new
personnel.
That's
going
to
put
on
another
ladder,
rescue
company,
in
addition
to
two
engines,
each
manning
with
three
firefighters.
S
S
We're
still
seeing
that
prolific
in
our
community,
responding
so
preparing
getting
our
hands
on
the
narcan
and
I'll,
give
credit
to
taylor
and
the
community
paramedic
program.
That's
up
and
running.
That's
that's
significantly
helping
and
I
was
able
to
learn
talking
with
them.
Some
many
early
on
success
stories
that
I
didn't
realize
were
happening
in
that
program
now,
but
the
success
stories
that
we're
seeing
in
the
community
paramedic
program
getting
people
in
into
and
through
rehab
and
off
government
subsidies.
So
I
mean
it's
just
amazing
stuff.
S
E
Just
a
second
chief
magnet,
yes
ma'am,
all
right
pull
this
down
so
so
I
appreciate
everyone
in
here
all
the
chief's
commitment
to
increasing
the
hourly
wage.
How
is
that
impacting
recruitment
and
retention
for
you
all,
and
do
you
see
you
know,
looking
forward
continuing
to
increase
that
pay,
particularly
for
retention
purposes,.
S
S
She
needs
to
learn
how
to
arrive
to
work
on
time
and
what
it
means
to
be
a
worker.
She
doesn't
need
to
be
earning
a
living
wage
that
comes
much
later
in
her
life,
and
so
I
I
am
very
concerned
about
that
national
debate,
because
what
that
does
is
is
really
puts
us
in
a
predicament
where
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
you.
S
There's
there's
only
one
or
two
avenues
is
that's
a
substantial
tax
increase
to
raise
your
starting
pay
for
firefighters
to
a
commensurate
rate
to
their
qualifications
and
certifications,
or
simply
layoffs
that
you
have
a
reduction
in
service
and
and
it
becomes
similar
to
a
a
difficult
conversation
that
you
had
with
after
city
schools.
It
just
gets
hard
decisions
have
to
be
made
at
that
point,
so
we
just
need
to
pay
attention
to
that
as
we
go
forward
this
good
as
we
progress
to
this
living
wage.
S
The
idea
is,
we
maintain,
so
we
pay
attention
to
the
cost
of
living
and
we're
not
making
or
having
to
make
such
large
jumps
to
get
our
folks
to
being
adequately
paid.
So
I
think
that's
a
little
bit
of
diligence
on
parts
of
the
fire
districts
to
pay
attention
to
that
and
what
that
liv,
what
what
our
wage
is
in
asheville
and
making
sure
that
we're
we're
paying
commensurate
to
where
we
live.
S
J
And
chief,
I
got
a
question
to
piggyback
off
of
that
regarding,
I
guess
recruitment.
I've
talked
to
various
chiefs
and
and
captains
about
trying
to
find
new
firefighters
and
new
paramedics,
and
there
seem
to
be
some
challenges
out
there
for
for
hiring
and
and
retention.
I
just
want
to
hear
from
you
and
maybe
others
more
about
the
scale
of
that
challenge.
S
Absolutely
commissioner,
sloan
and-
and
you
did
ask
that
I'm
sorry
I've
been
said-
words
so
recruitment.
I
think
what
we
look
at
is,
as
we
all
get
closer
right
now,
there's
some
higher
paying
departments.
Of
course,
you've
got
against
island
and
west
buncombe
that
able
to
offer
local
government
so
they're
certain.
They
have
different
benefits.
That,
of
course,
are
going
to
be
a
draw
for
certain
individuals.
S
As
we
start
laying
or
leveling.
I'm
sorry
that
playground
and
local
government
retirement
becomes
available
to
all.
Then
then
it
does
definitely
gets
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
What
it
becomes
traditionally
is
again.
I
would
in
in
somewhat
of
an
order,
skyland,
fairview,
inca
and
west
moncom.
Being
your
high
call
volume
departments,
we
have
a
little
bit
of
an
edge
because
again
just
a
little
bit
of
that
candor,
we
don't
like
to
sit
around
the
fire
station.
S
We
typically
like
to
be
on
the
fire
truck
doing
the
jobs
that
we're
we're
trained
to
do,
although
that's
not
always
a
good
thing,
that
is
the
type
personality
of
a
firefighter
currently
right
now.
My
next
employee,
on
average,
just
before
cove
had
started,
is
probably
working
at
one
of
my
fellow
fire
chiefs
departments
that
my
next
full-time
employee
is
probably
going
to
pull
from
another
fire
department.
S
That's
just
kind
of
how
it
goes
at
the
moment,
and
so
we
look
towards
our
partners
at
ab
tech
to
make
sure
to
we're
partnering
with
them
they're
offering
the
classes
needed.
There's
legislation
going
through
at
in
raleigh
right
now,
where
right
now
year,
fifteen-year-olds
can
take
classes,
but
they
don't
get
credit
for
them.
S
I'll
tell
you
now
I
am
able
to
run
a
volunteer
academy
at
west
buncombe
and
have
put
two
june
to
start
them
as
junior
firefighters.
I
have
two
going
through
right
now.
I've
hired
both
of
those
juniors
have
brought
them
through
trained
them,
got
them
certified
at
18,
ready
for
work,
and
we
put
them
to
work
so
there's
those
those
things
so
that
legislation
to
bring
those
15
year
olds
in
and
giving
them
credit
for
the
work
that
they're
already
doing
give
them
that
college
credit.
S
So
when
they
do
turn
18,
they
literally
have
two
classes.
They
can't
take
fire
control
for
obvious
reasons
and
they
can't
take
hazmat,
so
they
take
those
two
classes
and
boom
18
years
and
they're
ready.
So
that's
a
plug
for
we.
We
definitely.
A
large
group
of
us
went
to
raleigh
two
lobby,
our
representatives,
but
that's
a
that's,
an
important
piece
of
legislation
for
our
younger
folks
to
take
credit
for
the
education
that
they're
receiving,
and
I
think
that
is
a
good
avenue.
I've
seen
it
like.
S
I
said
I
have
two
juniors
right
now
going
through
that
same
type
of
program
and
I
can't
wait
till
they're
18
and
I
can
get
them
trained
because
they're
they're
going
to
make
great
firemen,
so
I
think
the
emphasis
on
the
high
schools
that's
also
in
play
for
probably
next
year.
Chief
penland
at
swannano
is
probably
going
to
pilot
that
program
where
we
start
an
academy
in
the
high
schools
there
at
owen.
S
If
that's
successful,
we'll
probably
transfer
transition
over
to
my
area
at
irwin
we're
just
one
of
those
career
fields
where,
although
a
college
education
will
be
important
at
some
point,
it
is
not
going
to
get
you
anywhere
initially.
I
need
trained,
certified,
firefighters
and
emts
when
I
look
to
promote
you
to
a
company
officer.
Yes,
that's
when
we'll
start
looking
at
that
associate's
degree.
So
it's
just
inevitable.
S
There's
not
everybody's
going
to
go
to
college,
and
I
think
we
see
the
trades
saying
that
same
message
and
we're
going
to
say
that
same
message
is
yes,
we'll
we'll
get
you
through
college,
but
initially
I
just
need
you
to
get
the
training.
You
need
to
come
on
the
job.
So
I
think
it's
great
idea
to
partner
with
av
tech
to
get
into
those
high
schools
as
a
pool
and
a
source
to
help
drive
the
future
needs
and
as
our
community
grows,
we
we
have
those
firefighters
and
paramedics
able
to
fill
those
spots.
E
I'm
personally
really
excited
about
the
owen.
Partnership
and
chief
penland's
involvement
been
involved
in
some
of
those
conversations
for
funding
for
the
students
as
well,
but
I'm
curious
is
that
something
that
could
then
potentially
be
replicated
for
emts
and
paramedics
to
help
address
those
needs.
I
know
that's
not
quite
your
round,
but
yeah.
E
G
F
S
S
Just
from
my
personal
knowledge,
the
town
of
weaverville
city
of
asheville
and
recently
understood
that
most
line
personnel
at
skyland
already
have
that
second
set
of
turnout
gear.
I
have
a
plan
in
place.
Not
all
my
people
have
it,
but
we
are
working
towards
that
so
you're
looking
three
thousand
dollars,
so
six
thousand
dollars
in
total
for
per
person
just
for
that
turnout
gear.
S
To
do
that,
so
it's
a
cost
issue.
In
addition
to
where
we're
kind
of
handcuffed
again
with
unfunded
mandates.
Five
years
is
all
you
get
out
of
that
gear
and
then
you
you're
supposed
to
essentially
throw
it
away.
So
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
that
a
little
common
sense
needs
to
come
into
play
there
and
common
sense
does
come
into
play
for
some
gear.
That
may
be
what
I
would
say
lightly
used.
S
So
I
think
again,
I
think,
there's
smart
business
that
can
go
there,
but
again,
I
think,
to
reiterate:
everybody
takes
that
seriously
because
we've
seen
it
in
our
own
community.
Unfortunately,
the
city
of
asheville
has
taken
the
brunt
of
that,
but
it
is
real.
We
are
at
a
higher
rate
of
many
forms
of
cancer.
That
legislation
is,
is
bipartisan
support
in
raleigh
and
hopefully
at
that
at
the
national
level
too,
and
so
the
idea
is
to
catch
that
early,
because
it
is.
S
A
You
know
so
that
we
have
that
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
broader
context
to
look
at
this.
The
request
for
this
particular
year
within,
and
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
it's
you
know
in
terms
of
I
know
our
staff
have
been
working
with
the
different
departments
on
you
know,
ideas
for
the
budget,
so
I
I
wonder
you
know.
A
Some
of
these
are
you
know,
with
a
revaluation
here,
the
idea
of
holding
the
rate
the
same.
You
know
for
our
taxpayers,
I
mean
which
what
you
all
do
is
amazing
and
greatly
appreciated.
It
is
a
big
tax
increase.
You
know
for
for
folks,
if
you
know
if
the
valuations
have
gone
up,
15
or
20
percent,
and
we
hold
that
rate
the
same.
L
You
know
project
was
to
work
with
districts
and
in
trying
to
work
towards
a
five-year
capital
plan
and-
and
they
have
responded,
graciously
and
terrifically
in
terms
of
working
to
compile
those,
and
so
many
of
them
brought
those
to
the
conversation
and-
and
I
would
say
overall,
the
general
conversation
with
them
and
from
them
was
looking
towards.
You
know
trying
to
do
that
four-year
outlook
around
planning
for
for
their
tax
rate
requests.
L
The
goal
will
be
that
they
will
submit
with
their
budget
requests
their.
You
know
fully
built
five-year
capital
plan
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
So
we,
you
know,
know
that's
a
work
in
progress
and,
and
you
know
we
could
work
to
do
to
build
staff.
You
know
if,
if
they
could,
you
know
start
working
to
put
staffing
plans
together.
That's
certainly
something
that
we
could.
You
know,
work
to
incorporate
in
our
conversations
and
just
see
what
that
could
look
like.
S
S
What
you'll
see
for
west
moncom
specifically
is
we
were
at
14
cents,
so
it
only
makes
to
say
is
you
are
exactly
right
when
you
have
a
reevaluation,
there
is
a
tax
increase
this
year,
I'd
like
to
go
to
13
and
a
half,
so
there
is
in
essence
a
reduction
there,
and
that
is
forward
thinking
for
the
next
five
years.
Now,
yes,
anything
can
happen.
We
can.
We
can
have
catastrophic
that
aside,
the
the
the
requirement
now
part
of
our
service
agreement
for
that
capital
plan
has
pushed
us
out
far
enough
where
that's.
S
This
is
my
tax
rate
in
which
I
have
committed
to
manager
pender
that
she
won't
see
me
again
asking
for
a
tax
rate
for
five
years
or
yes
for
four
years,
provided
something
bad
happens.
So
I
I
I
think
that
is
great
perspective
and
one
I
want
to
be
able
to
provide
to
you
and
the
rest
of
the
commission
that
we
do
have
that
forward.
Thinking
that
you're
not
going
to
see
the
same
faces
year
after
year
asking
for
for
a
tax
adjustment,
yeah.
A
L
Just
going
to
continue
we're
just
going
to
continue
to
push
through
I'm
assuming
okay.
So
the
second
item
that
we
wanted
to
review
with
you
today
is
with
regard
to
changes
to
the
budget.
Since
our
april
22nd
work
session,
I'm
going
to
go
through
those
here,
so
starting
with
expenditures,
starting
at
the
top.
L
So
the
don
warren
has
been
fortunate
enough
to
be
provided.
Some
changes
from
the
governmental
accounting
standards
board.
They've
issued
some
guidance.
You
have
a
handout
in
the
packet
with
many
more
details
around
some
of
the
accounting
information,
but
basically
the
county
currently
has
four
what
we
call
agency
funds.
These
are
funds
that
don't
require
budgets
and
upon
examination
by
our
finance
partners.
L
Some
of
the
agency
activity
will
continue
to
be
reported
as
purely
balance
sheet,
so
unbudgeted
activity
in
a
custodial
fund,
but
some
activity
that
we
have
historically
reported
in
the
unbudgeted
agency
fund
will
now
be
reported
required
to
be
reported
with
a
budget.
So
what
that
essentially
does
is
the
added
amounts
here
are
specific
to
additions
to
the
general
fund.
L
They
are
passed
through,
so
the
expenditures
and
the
revenues
are
going
to
equal
each
other
and
they
are
fees
that
we
collect
on
behalf
of
the
register
of
deeds
and
id
bureau,
and
we
pay
them
directly
back
out
to
the
state.
So
you
will
also
see
them
in
a
budget
amendment
that
comes
forward
on
may
the
18th,
because
they
are,
it
is
required
for
fiscal
year
21.
L
The
is
there
any
questions
about
that
everybody's
good.
You
previously
heard
from
cpl,
so
the
contractor
performing
the
county's
comprehensive
facilities
assessment
again
at
the
end
of
our
april
22nd
work
session.
If
I
may
refer
you
to
a
handout
in
your
packet,
that
is
a
slide
from
their
presentation.
L
The
net
impact
to
include
those
in
fiscal
year.
2022
is
a
net
increase
of
146,
000
and,
and
that
will
be
related
to
the
timing
of
debt
issuance.
So
it's
debt
issuance
costs
and
then
200
000
for
the
forward-pacing
department
in
net
of
some
general
services,
money
that
we
then
reduced
and
then
for
the
third
project.
L
We
are
recommending
to
move
forward
with
the
40
cox
avenue
renovation,
interior
renovation,
so
this
would
be
to
move
the
35
woodfin
occupants
to
40
cox
avenue
and
we
are
proposing
to
use
debt
proceeds
from
the
previously
debt
financed
hhs
expansion
project.
So
the
previous
hhs
expansion
project
that
was
debt,
a
debt
issuance
from
2015..
L
J
G
J
L
Right
there
is
correct
we,
so
we
would
have
brought
forward
to
you
and
I
want
to
say
it's
in
the
last
two
one
or
two
board
meetings.
There
was
a
two
million
dollar
agreement
agenda
funding
for
public
health.
We
brought
that
into
the
budget.
They
are
able
to
use
that
for
some
continued
expenditures
around
the
vaccine
sites.
We
expect
to
carry
forward
the
balance
of
those
agreement
agenda
funding
into
2022.
L
G
J
R
L
I
apologize
I
didn't
realize
I
had
missed
that
one,
because
I
can
barely
see
the
screen
so
moving
on
to
the
public
safety.
Interoperability
say
that
four
times
fast,
this
was
previously
known
as
the
sieges.
So
it's
the
criminal
justice
information
system.
So
it's
a
collaboration
of
a
lot
of
the
public
safety
communications
and
software
documentation.
L
The
I.t
department
is
working
with
a
contractor
around
evaluating
the
sieges
system,
which
is
now
this
public
safety
interoperability
and
they
will
pay
half
of
the
contract
in
the
current
fiscal
year
from
some
savings,
and
so
we
were
able
to
reduce
the
fiscal
year.
2022
contract
amount
by
the
portion,
that's
there,
so
we
reduce
that
in
in
the
budget
and
then
again,
based
on
our
conversation.
In
our
last
session,
we
have
lowered
the
initial
placeholder
request
for
the
education
special
projects
from
300
000
to
80
000,
to
be
more
in
alignment
with
fiscal
year.
L
L
So
incorporating
these
changes
for
a
second
past
budget,
we
arrive
at
a
total
of
360
million
in
expenditures
and
351.1
million
in
revenues
and
at
a
48.8
tax
rate
and
appropriation
of
fund
balance.
Totaling
8.9
million
the
previously
discussed
proposed
tax
rate
was
48.9
with
a
net
change
in
the
expenses
and
revenues.
We
are
demonstrating
to
you
that
the
additional
revenue
could
allow
for
a
slightly
lower
tax
rate
at
48.8.
L
L
Yes,
it's
a
little
different.
If
you
then
looked
to
fund
asheville
city
schools
at
their
full
request
that
translates
to
84
000
more
than
what's
depicted
here,
because
that's
closer
to
13.8
instead
of
13.7
and
then
because
you
do
a
proportionate
share
to
buncombe
county
schools,
you
then
need
to
add
400
and
67
000
more
to
buncombe
county
schools,
so
that
translates
to,
if
you
fully
fund
asheville
city
schools,
you
have
to
give
that
reciprocal
that
reverse
calculation
to
buncombe
county
and
adds
552
000
to
this
total.
L
L
The
navy
blue
is
for
fiscal
year
19
through
fiscal
year
2022
and
is
the
amount
that
would
have
been
generated
if
we
had
used
the
unrestricted
revenue
growth
rate.
So
if
we
applied
just
the
unrestricted
revenue
growth
rate
for
each
of
those
years,
we
would
have
come
to
84.4
million
for
education
funding
for
k-12.
G
G
L
All
right
so
so
the
the
aqua
green
is
actual
amounts
and
then,
when,
when
you
start
in
fiscal
year,
19
the
navy
blue
kind
of
color
is
what
you
would
have
provided
to
the
schools.
If,
if
you
used
the
unrestricted
revenue
growth
rate,
so
in
19
we
provided
more
education
funding
than
what
the
unrestricted
revenue
growth
rate
would
have
provided
the
same
for
20.
L
L
The
blue
right,
so
some
of
you
may
recall,
but
2016
from
what
we
can
read
in
the
history,
is
that
there
was
a
one-time
appropriation
to
asheville
city
schools
for
debt
service,
payment
obligations
for
asheville,
middle
school
and
isaac
dixon
elementary
school,
and
that
was
a
4.6
million
dollar
debt
service.
Payment
specific
for
those
projects
from.
A
A
L
L
If
we
were
to
provide
the
three
percent
increase
over
21
total
education
funding
would
would
grow
to
84.9
million.
It's
a
little
different.
If
you
then
add
the
other
500
000.
If
you
went
with
asheville
city's
request,
oops
jumped
on
me
uh-oh
there
we
go
and
then
for
the
full
request
at
5.8
as
the
basis
for
buncombe
county
schools,
then
that
would
be
89.3
in
total.
L
Request
so
I
want
to
walk
through
each
of
the
funding
scenarios:
a
b
tech,
buncombe,
county
schools
and
asheville
city
schools
are
what
is
accounted
for
in
the
education
partner,
total
amount.
So
on
this
slide,
when
you
see
in
the
expenditures,
education
partners,
it's
made
up
of
those
three
education
partners.
L
L
This
is
the
amount
accounted
for
in
the
budget
currently
and
is
estimated
using
a
48.8
tax
rate
provides
an
8.9
million
dollar
appropriation
of
fund
balance
and
for
the
purposes
of
today
we
are
using
the
two-year
outlook
period
and
you
can
see
we
are
projecting.
We
could
remain
above
the
15
minimum
by
policy
for
fiscal
year,
23.
L
L
If
the
decision
is
to
I,
I
am
so
sorry,
I'm
going
to
go
back.
What
slide
is
this
15.?
Okay?
Thank
you,
avril
all
right.
So
the
third
scenario
fully
funding
education.
It's
a
7.1
million
dollar
increase
to
the
general
fund,
maintains
the
48.8
tax
rate
and
moves
your
fund
balance
appropriation
to
13.3
million.
L
L
So
this
is
so.
The
mechanism
to
fund
education
in
these
scenarios
is
increasing
your
fund
balance
appropriation
with
each
successive
scenario.
So
in
this
scenario,
with
buncombe
county
schools
fully
funded
at
the
5.8
and
a
proportionate
shared
asheville
city,
your
fund
balance
appropriation
moves
to
13.3.
L
Earlier
slides
show
the
5.63
growth
and
the
fully
funded
scenario.
Maintaining
the
48.8
tax
rate
increasing
your
fund
balance
is
the
offset
now
here
at
the
bottom
in
green.
If
the
decision
was
to
not
use
appropriated
fund
balance
to
fund
the
education
growth
and
if
you
looked
to
do
an
alternative
with
an
incremental
tax
rate.
Here
are
the
changes
to
accommodate
those
education
growth
percentages.
L
Q
N
L
We
have
a
review
for
your
consideration.
The
fire
tax
rate
requests,
an
additional
tax
rate
request
that
the
board
must
consider
and
approve,
is
the
asheville
city,
schools,
supplemental
tax
rate.
We
have
included
for
you
today,
the
fiscal
year
21
tax
rate
and
total
levy,
and
then
the
total
levy
calculated
at
a
revenue,
neutral,
tax
rate
of
10.62
cents
and
then
the
current
rate
of
12
cents.
A
L
Q
Q
R
R
A
I
I'm
just
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
information
to
process
here,
so
I
don't
have
a
lot
of
detailed
follow-up.
Yet,
in
terms
of
between
now
and
the
budget,
are
you
know
the
next,
the
next
discussion
about
the
budget?
If
folks
have
additional
feedback
or
are
we
going
to
discuss
again
at
a
commission
meeting
or
should
folks
just
kind
of
relay
their
individual
thoughts
to
management?
Or
what
do
what
would
you
suggest
overall.
R
It
would
be
good
if
they
would
call
and
let
jennifer
and
myself
know
any
questions
that
they
have
between
now
the
18th
we
are
working
based
on
what
you
see
today.
There
will
be
little
changes
based
on
what
we
recommend
for
the
schools
or
for
any
of
the
others.
But
as
you
know,
after
the
18th,
we
don't,
we
don't
have
our
public
hearing
until
the
first.
So
you
can
still
send
me
information
after
the
18th,
because
the
final
adopted
budget
would
be
what
the
input
from
you
guys,
as
well
as
a
community.
Okay,.
A
I'll,
just
this
is
just
my
you
know,
kind
of
personal
take
on
it
and
again
I'd
like
to
have
more
time
to
kind
of
think
about
this,
but
I
would
say
you
know
in
terms
of
this
whole
education
process.
Of
course,
what
happens
at
the
state
level
is
a
big
determinant
here.
So
I
mean
in
some
ways
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
take
something
of
a
wait
and
see
approach.
A
I
mean
I
think
in
some
past
years,
where
we've
had
a
similar
dynamic,
we
have
made
some
decisions
around
sort
of
initial
amounts
of
funding,
that
we
would
guarantee
the
schools
and
say
here's
what
we're
going
to
do.
You
can
count
on
it,
but
look
if
the
state
does
a
bigger
teacher
pay,
then
then
you
know
if
it
ends
up
on
the
higher
end
of
that,
then
we
you
know.
A
R
We
do,
however,
as
tony
mentioned
in
the
past,
we've
always
had
at
least
two
to
kind
of
gauge
what
that
number
is
going
to
look
like
this
year.
We
don't
have
that
lower
end
and
somewhere
we
meet
in
the
middle,
so
we
are
gauging
it
based
on
just
one
data
input,
but
this
year
is
also
the
year
that
you
would
set
a
tax
rate
in
the
past.
We
always
relied
on
fund
balance
to
do
that.
R
This
is
the
year
that,
hopefully,
we
wouldn't
come
back
similar
to
what
I'm
asking
the
fire
chiefs
to
do
to
commit
to
a
multi-year
type
fund
fund
tax
rate,
we're
kind
of
looking
at
doing
the
same
thing
ourselves.
So
if
we
do
rely
heavily
on
fund
balance
to
balance
that
budget,
we
would
have
to
come
back
and
talk
about
a
tax
rate
or
some
adjustment
in
the
next
couple
of
years.
A
Avra,
when
you
think
about
the
recommended
tax
tax
rates
under
these
different
scenarios,
but
you
know-
and
I
realized
you
know
the
further
out
in
the
future-
you
get
the
more
unknowns
that
you
can't
account
for.
But
when
you
think
about
that,
do
you
think
about
that
on
a
two
year
basis
or
a
three
or
four
year
basis
right.
A
R
Right
now
we're
saying
it's
two
years,
because
the
market
is
moving
so
fast
and
what's
happening
in
our
community,
so
we
are
committing
to
a
two-year.
We
would
not
come
back
next
year
for
a
next
tax
increase
so
right
now,
that's
why
you're
seeing
23
on
everything
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
23.
A
A
An
opponent
of
that,
but
just
thinking
about
the
likelihood
of
different
scenarios,
I
think
the
likelihood
of
that
being
fully
funded
is
probably
fairly
low.
Realistically,
so
it
would
seem,
it
would
seem
prudent
to
perhaps
work
towards
a
process
where
we
commit
to
some
lower
level
and
then,
if
the
funds
do
come
in
above
you
know
on
the
higher
end
of
that,
then,
with
the
idea
that
we
may,
we
may
need
to
add
additional
funding
to
it.
A
But
I
think
if
we
plan
right
now,
for
you
know,
100
of
the
governor's
budget
recommendations
being
funded,
we
might
end
up
sort
of
overdoing
it
at
a
certain
level.
That's
just
from
a
process
standpoint
the
way
I'm
thinking
about
it
right
now
as
just
working
assumptions,
not
knowing
how
it's
going
to
play
out.
But
commissioners,
do
you
have
any
other
thoughts
on
this?
This
part
of
the
education
piece
as
it
relates
to
our
budget
process.
A
A
Okay,
well,
let's
keep
our
eyes
on
that.
The
other
thing
I
would
just
say
from
a
process
standpoint
is
that
you
know,
of
course,
the
of
the
two
districts.
The
county
is
much
larger,
so
it's
in
some
ways:
it's
the
big
driver
in
the
budget
and,
of
course
we
have
to
treat
both
the
districts
the
same.
So
I
think
we
need
to
think
about.
What's
the
number
that
we're
going
to
recommend
for
the
county-wide,
you
know
for
accounting,
county-wide
basis
and
the
cities
will
get
the
same
exact
proportion.
A
A
A
R
G
R
R
So,
typically,
we
wouldn't
have
a
whole
lot
of
changes,
but
with
the
compensation
plan,
as
we
have
now,
we
do
have
significant
changes
to
titles
and
some
grades,
and
I
didn't
want
to
just
have
this
given
to
you
as
a
big
packet
without
walking
through
some
of
the
changes.
So
if
you'll
bear
with
another
two.
G
R
R
A
D
And
let
me
know
if
you
want
me
to
slow
down.
I
know
I've
got
five
minutes,
so
the
next
is
we
have
65
deletion
of
titles
and
and
once
again,
what
we're
looking
at.
Are
there
some
positions
where
you
might
have
had
five
different
administrative
assistants
and
they
had
five
different
types
of
titles
or
we
had
account
specialist
one,
two,
three,
four
five
and
we're
putting
them
into
a
more
generic
role.
D
And
then
you'll
see
32
changes
and
I
have
this
over
two
different
slides
but
you're
going
to
see
as
you
go
through
this-
and
I
can
provide
this.
This
slide
deck
to
you.
If
you
don't
have
it
where
some
of
them
are
like
the
very
first
one,
we're
removing
the
number
one
so
it'll
be
just
a
plain
old
accounting
specialist.
D
We
have
some
that
are
moving
from
various
grades.
However,
at
this
point
we're
not
going
to
see
a
salary
change,
we
have
some
that
we
found
like
when
you
hit
the
benefits,
administrator
and
benefits
specialist.
In
the
way
our
classification
is
they're
actually
reversed,
and
so
we're
changing
that
and
again
most
of
them
are
just
right-sizing
the
the
positions
into
the
right
grades
as
we
work
through
this
compensation
study-
and
this
is
the
second
group.
D
D
L
R
That
is
it
also
in
your
packet.
You
do
have
some
fee
schedule
changes.
I
didn't
get
any
feedback
on
the
fees,
we've
reviewed
them
and
we're
pretty
comfortable
with
them.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
them,
hhs
fees
just
came
in
so
you
do
have
that
in
your
packet
commissioner,
newman
you'd
ask
if
we
can
look
at
jurisdictions
that
have
about
the
same
adm
and
look
at
what
their
local
salaries
are.
The
local
employees
are
the.