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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Pre-meeting for Jan. 7, 2020
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This is the Jan. 7, 2020 pre-meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners. For more information visit buncombecounty.org.
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I
would
I
would
just
you
know:
I
would
share
I.
Think
having
small
closed-door
meetings
is
fine,
but
I
think
there's
also
a
lot
of
value
in
discussing
these
issues
in
an
open
public
format.
So
I
personally
appreciate
the
fact
that
we're
doing
that
now
do
many
other
commissioners,
which
too
sheering
observations
all
right.
Mr.
Miller,
thank
you
for
being
here.
Yeah.
B
B
Here
we
go
so
the
agenda
for
me
today.
Some
things
that
I
want
to
cover
with
you
is
background,
reappraisal,
basics,
market
indicators,
residential
market
value
versus
assessed
value
data,
collection,
public
outreach,
appeal
process
and
the
reappraisal
schedule
so
background
in
February
2000,
nineteen,
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
adopted
resolution
to
conduct
a
reappraisal
in
2021.
B
Why
did
Buncombe
County
decide
to
advance
the
reappraisal
to
2021?
First
of
all,
the
projected
sales
ratio
would
drop
below
85
percent,
which
would
trigger
the
North
Carolina
General
Statutes,
mandatory
reappraisal
our
office
monitors
that
quarterly.
We
reports
the
north
bound
department
revenue
quarterly.
So
we
have
a
pretty
good
idea
of
where
we're
at
on
those
percentages
all
the
time.
The
second
one
is
in
equity
and
assessments
due
to
appreciating
market
and
maintain
the
public
service
revenue
so
reappraise
the
basics.
The
reappraisal
is
an
appraisal.
B
It
is
an
opinion
value
of
every
parcel
in
Buckham
County
welcome.
County
has
roughly
one
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand
parcels
and
each
parcel
in
the
county
will
have
a
new
market
value
assigned
to
it
required
by
state
law
at
least
every
eight
years,
unless
the
option
of
four-year
schedules
adopted
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
welcome,
County
residents
may
see
a
change
in
their
tax
bill.
August
of
2021
and
the
FY
22
budget
may
also
be
impacted.
B
A
reappraisal
is
not
an
increase
based
on
the
cell
versus
assessment
study,
which
we
as
I
said,
do
quarterly,
but
a
process
of
praising
all
parcels
at
market
value.
A
reappraisal
should
be
stand-alone.
It
should
be
independent
of
any
prior
values
and
prior
about
you
versus
reappraised
by
you.
Creating
a
percent
change
is
irrelevant.
B
Reappraisal,
creates
a
new
value
from
scratch,
based
on
market
value,
facts
assessment
versus
market
value,
when
are
they
equal
and
winner
they're,
not
reappraisal
or
assessed
value
is
an
estimate
of
value
of
one
moment
on
this
question
comes
up
often
because
the
reappraisal
value,
as
this
says,
is
effective,
January
1
of
2021.
So
if
you
get
into
twenty
twenty
to
twenty
twenty
three
and
you
get
asked
the
question
well,
why
are
those
two
values
now
not
equal?
B
This
is
because
you're
still
looking
at
an
appraised
value
for
January
1
of
21,
so
the
market
does
change.
After
that
reappraisal
is
a
market
driven
the
Assessors
tasks
us
to
interpret
the
market
understand
the
story.
The
statistics
are
providing
forecasts
the
future
and
make
a
reappraisal
recommendation
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
market
indicators,
things
that
we
watch
here's
a
little
bit
of
a
idea
for
you
of
where
we've
came
from
and
where
we're
at
reappraisal,
zaur
response
to
market
changes.
B
As
you
can
see,
this
graph
goes
back
to
2009
when
we
were
showing
the
median
sales
price
of
about
two
hundred
thousand,
and
now
we
get
into
2020
and
you
got
a
median
sales
price
of
probably
getting
not
close
to
three
hundred
thousand,
so
the
reappraisal
has
to
respond
to
this.
If
not,
then
your
sales
assessment
ratio
really
drops
very
low
and
you
will
be
triggered
the
statute,
which
the
department
will
put
you
on
notice
that
we
have
to.
E
B
Not
an
average
okay.
That
would
be
the
mean.
So
the
median
is
that
if
we
have
a
hundred
sales
and
they're
in
the
data
set,
wherever
we're
at
in
the
middle
would
be
the
median,
so
it
doesn't.
The
outliers
do
not
ask
you
that
number
as
it
would
in
its
answer
your
question.
Mr.
Belton
Commissioner
belt,
you
have
a.
F
B
And
if
you
see
another
one,
please
comment:
it's
easy
to
use
these
words
every
day
in
our
business,
but
not
stop
always
and
understand
that.
Maybe
not
everyone
knows
what
I
mean
so
a
little
more
statistics,
forea
2014
to
2018
again
the
median
sales
price
changed
for
Buncombe
County
was
thirty
six
point
three
percent,
so
that
was
the
appreciation
from
14
to
18
and
I.
B
Show
you
this
because
again
it
shows
you
why
that
we
need
to
do
a
reappraisal
in
order
to
state
equitable
in
the
market
keeper
parcels
at
100%
of
market
value
statistics
we
use
in
the
sales
assessment
ratio.
Commissioner
belts
are
this:
one
was
one
that
you're
talking
about.
This
is
something
that
we
monitor
and
it's
called
the
coefficient
of
dispersion.
So
if
you'll
see
the
two
bull's-eyes
and
you
see
where
it
says,
low,
Co
D
and
then
you
have
one,
it
says:
high
co
D.
B
What
happens
in
a
reappraise
was
Tom
passes
is
the
coefficient
of
dispersion
increases
because
the
inequity
in
the
parcels
increases
market
changes
at
a
different
rate
in
different
neighborhoods
across
the
county.
Therefore,
it
puts
the
level
of
assessment,
not
equitable.
Between
all
those
parcels,
so
that's
what
happens
is
when
you
see
the
blue
dots.
Those
would
represent
parcels
in
the
in
the
market
and
after
a
reappraisal,
how
they
Totten
back
up
and
come
back
into
the
center
circle.
B
The
ratio
study
from
2002
to
current.
If
you
see
the
spikes
in
the
graph,
those
would
be
at
the
reappraisal
years
of
2002
2006
13
2017.
So
you
see
the
cycle
as
we
go
through
time
as
you
get
down
to
the
bottom,
that's
where
the
so
the
sales
assessment
ratio
starts
getting
into
the
80s.
We
do
the
reappraisal,
and
then
we
come
back
up
to
the
peak.
So
it's
a
continuous
cycle
as
long
as
the
markets
doing
what
it's
doing.
This
is
the
reaction
to
the
market
residential
market
versus
assessment
value.
B
Here's
some
examples
for
you,
this
home
sold
and
September
2019
for
320,000.
The
assessment
on
it
was
two
hundred
and
five
thousand.
That
ratio
is
64%.
So
it's
telling
you
that
the
assessment
is
sixty.
Four
percent
of
the
sales
price
I'll,
give
you
a
little
example
there.
If
the
county
taxes
at
a
hundred
percent
would
be
sixteen
hundred
and
ninety
three
dollars
at
the
sixty
four
percent,
you
know
at
a
thousand
eighty
four
dollars
or
a
difference
of
six
hundred
and
nine
dollars
based
on
the
2019
tax
rate.
F
B
Next
one
three
hundred
seventy
five
thousand
was
the
sales
processed
at
276.
That's
seventy
four
percent!
The
assessed
value
is
of
the
sales
price.
The
next
one,
September
2019
325
thousand
assessed
at
295,000.
That's
ninety
one
percent
of
the
sales
price,
or
a
difference
of
six
hundred
and
nine
dollars
in
the
tax
revenue.
So
here's
here's
rut
on
this
slide
right
here
will
to
really
give
you
a
good
idea
of
why
reappraisal
czar
important
the
first.
When
I
gave
you
a
sixty
four
percent,
then
you
have
a
seventy
four
percent
in
a
ninety
one
percent.
B
So
what
this
is
showing
you
is
the
inequity
and
the
the
uniformity
in
the
market
or
in
the
assessments,
start
becoming
skewed
over
time,
so
the
first
person
there's
only
paying
taxes
on
64%
of
their
actual
market
value,
whereas
the
third
person
is
paying
91%
of
their
actual
market
value.
This
is
what
the
reappraisal
is
all
about
is
to
fix
these
inequities
in
the
market
and
to
make
sure
that
every
every
person
is
paying
their
fair
share
and
has
a
uniform
assessment
across
the
county.
B
So,
let's
talk
about
data
collection,
a
little
bit,
I'm
gonna
do
so
different
methods
that
we
use
desktop
review,
a
full
measuring
list,
walk
arounds
and
street
views.
So
I
like
to
say
that
Buncombe
uses
a
hybrid
of
these
because
we
do
them
all.
We
don't
just
say
that
we're
going
to
do
all
desktop
reviews
or
we
don't
do
all
walk
arounds.
We
make
decisions
on
which
ones
those
would
be
adequate
for
the
property
that
we're
looking
at.
So
the
state
also
has
reappraisal
standards
that
they
asked
for
us
to
meet.
B
So
that's
a
little
bit
about
what
this
slide
is
about.
Also,
if
you
see
in
the
state
threshold
column
over
on
your
right
for
the
desktop
review,
there's
a
minimum
top
review
required
by
the
state.
The
full
measure
and
realist
is
when
the
accuracy
of
the
square
footage
is
below
95%
and
the
same
for
the
walk
around
in
the
street
view
once
the
accuracies
drop
below
95%
and
then
90
percent,
then
the
state's
going
to
give
you
a
recommendation
of
what
kind
of
free
appraisal
that
you
should
do
so
this
also
affects
cost.
B
So
the
less
accurate,
the
data,
if
you
had
to
do
a
full
measure
in
relist
of
every
home
in
Buncombe
County
than
the
residents
of
that
becomes
quite
large.
This
is
data.
This
is
Buncombe
County's
measure
in
the
data
we
did
this
last
year
we
sampled
a
little
over
a
thousand
parcels
based
on
what
the
state
asked
us
to
do.
Our
square
footage
data
came
in
at
98.7
nine
percent.
Accurate
objective
data
was
96
point,
eight,
eight
subjective
data.
B
B
So,
residential
partial
review
total
this
is
a
just
in
2019,
the
appraisers
reviewed
twenty
two
thousand
six
hundred
fifty
six
parcels
in
the
county
desktop
review
was
fourteen
thousand
eight
hundred
sixty
one
in
a
field
review
was
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
ninety
five
total
residential
parcel
one
hundred
fifteen
thousand
one
hundred
seventeen
total
improved.
Ninety
two
thousand
three
hundred
so
out
of
the
total
improved
ninety
three
two
thousand
three
hundred
and
two
thousand
nineteen.
B
In
some
way
we
touched
through
this
hybrid
method
that
we
have
twenty
two
thousand
of
those
two
looking
for
updating
data
and
check
an
accuracy
on
those
parcels
commercial
same
in
2019,
the
desktop
reviews
were
1256,
the
field
reviews
four
thousand
and
eighty
one
total
parcels.
Seventy
seven
hundred
and
sixty
three
hundred
and
improved
parcels
technology
technology
has
improved
how
we
do
things
today.
Oh
I
started
in
this
business
twenty
four
years
ago,
when
I
was
looking
at
cadastral
Maps
and
we
were
trying
to
identify
houses
based
on
evergreen
trees
in
the
yard.
B
B
So
in
prior
years
before
we
had
access
to
mobile
listing
service,
ninety-nine
percent
of
the
homes
in
this
county,
we
would
never
see
the
interior
of
we
had
no
idea
what
was
in
your
home
unless
you
invited
us
to
come
in
your
home.
Now
we
have
pictures
provided
by
the
Multiple
Listing
Service
that
we
can
get
an
idea
of
the
quality
of
the
home,
the
condition
of
the
home
if
it
did
sell
through
the
Multiple
Listing
Service.
So
this
is
a
great
tool
for
appraisers.
B
B
Not
in
this
house
there's
no
children.
This
is
just.
This
is
just
a
couple:
who's
empty
nest,
okay,
so
the
next
tool
we
use
is
the
Pictometry
and
our
aerial
imagery.
The
2020
capture
of
that
is
being
flown
as
we
speak,
so
we
have
made
some
changes
in
the
quality
of
that.
For
this
reappraisal.
This
new
product
is
called
reveal
250.
It
is
a
sub
2
in
2
inch
imagery,
which
means
the
pixels
are
1.85.
B
This
is,
if
you
look
at
the
picture
in
the
left
hand,
side,
the
4-inch
pixels,
that's
the
foot,
that's
the
photography
that
we
used
to
have
and
their
prior
flowers.
You
see.
The
quality
of.
It
is
not
really
good
enough
to
help
us
make
decisions
with.
However,
the
new
flyover,
with
the
reveal
250,
we
can
do
roof
inspections.
We
can
do
sighting
inspections.
We
can
actually
see
damage
on
the
site
anywhere
on
these
houses.
B
We
can
actually
see
you
know
the
dog
standing
in
the
door
if
he
was
there,
so
it
used
to
be
classified
again.
This
was
shot
from
an
airplane.
Ok,
this
is
the
quality
of
the
photography
that
we
will
have,
and
then
we
review
you
see
the
dog
in
the
pool,
and
you
know
we're
kind
of
pointing
out
some
things
to
you
that
we
can
see.
So
if
we
were
never
invited
in
this
house,
there's
a
good
possibility,
we
wouldn't
even
know
game.
Oh
we
wouldn't
even
know
they
had
a
pool
or
a
dog.
B
So
now
we
know
that
don't
go
in
the
fence
because
you
might
get
dog
bit
so,
but
some
of
the
things
that
I
want
you
to
see
is
that
you
see
the
roof
tiles
on
this
house
that
we
could
do
an
inspection
of
those
we
can
do.
Inspection
of
the
pool
and
the
patio
we
can
make
determinations
on
how
many
bathrooms
may
be
in
this
house.
How
many
fireplaces
may
be
in
this
house
there's
a
few
things
that
we
can
tell
from
the
roof
that
we
just
have
to.
B
We
can
make
decisions
on
if
we
don't
have
any
other
better
data.
This
photo
will
show
you
that
I
can
see
the
crack
in
the
wall
on
this
house.
So
if
now,
this
picture
is
not
the
best
the
quality
but
because
it's
been
copied,
but
the
point
here
is
that
if
this
person
appealed
their
property
value,
then
I
could
sit
with
them
at
my
desk.
They
could
show
me
the
cracks
in
these
walls.
B
They
could
show
me
the
condition
of
the
building
and
the
rear,
and
we
could
sit
and
have
a
conversation
about
that
and
not
have
to
send
one
of
our
appraisers
out
on
the
on
the
road
to
be
able
to
verify
that
change.
Finder
is
another
tool
that
we
use
change
founder.
We
flew
in
2017
and
what
change
finder
is.
Is
it
from
our
aerial
photography?
B
The
picture
on
the
left
is
the
old
picture.
It
was
from
a
prior
flyover,
so
you
see
the
footprint
of
that
house.
If
you
look
at
the
picture
on
the
right,
you
will
see
that
house
has
had
an
addition
added
to
it,
so
change
finder
will
identify
the
changes
in
the
footprints
of
these
homes,
so
we
are
then
put
on
notice
that
someone
needs
to
go
there
and
take
a
look
at
this
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
missing
something.
B
Some
of
you
may
have
solved
the
Ghostbuster
car
ride
around
town,
so
it
is
out
there
going
through
neighborhoods.
This
is
cyclo
media
and
these
are
street-level
photography,
360-degree
perspective
of
the
properties
in
the
neighborhood
street-level,
building
inspections,
measurements
of
high
level
accuracy
from
the
street
hot
flint
width,
an
area
increases
our
efficiencies
works,
appeals
faster,
more
accurately
and
actually
decreases
appeals.
So
this
is
a
great
tool,
a
tool
that
we've
never
had
before,
that
we
could
see
also
not
only
from
the
street,
but
we
can
see
vertically.
B
B
That
I
don't
want
to
quote
a
number
off
my
head,
Commissioner
fryer,
but
I'm
going.
If
you
would
like
I,
can
give
you
my
best
memory
or
I
can
wait
and
send
you
the
exact
number
from
the
contract,
but
it
was
wrought
at
250,000
to
do
a
County
right,
but
you
find
that
that
sound,
maybe
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money,
but
as
you
keep
our
vehicles
off
the
road,
we
are
reducing
fleet
we're,
reducing
fuel
cost,
we're
reducing
staff
time
on
the
road.
B
So
you
know
in
the
end
it
becomes
a
more
efficient
way
of
doing
business
and
not
only
for
tax
there's
other
people
that
can
use
this
product
in
which
we
will
share
with
in
the
County
Emergency
Services
Sheriff
planning
a
dress
in
Gulu
example.
For
you
is
that
a
dressing
can
check
the
house.
They
can
see
the
street
number
on
the
house.
They
can
see
the
streets
on
and
be
able
to
verify
the
name
and
the
number
if
they
want.
B
The
public
outreach
concern
in
the
reappraisal
2019.
We
begin
the
collaboration
with
community,
our
own
community
engagement
here
in
the
county
and
our
PR
team,
to
start
putting
together
a
plan
on
reaching
the
citizens
about
reappraisal,
educating
the
citizens
about
what
this
is
about
and
about
what
we're
doing
so
January
through
December
of
2020.
We
will
be
scheduling
speakers
of
different
places
that
request
it:
civic
groups,
local
groups
in
town.
B
So
citizens
concerns
so
we
know
that
many
citizens
have
concerns
and
we
approach
on
how
that
we
overcome
those
and
how
we
help
the
citizens
better
understand
the
biggest
one
is
the
fear
of
unknown
when
citizens
here
they're
going
to
be
reappraised.
The
first
thing
they
think
is
that
their
taxes
are
going
to
go
up,
and
it's
that
fear
of
the
unknown
that
we
don't
know
how
much
or
we
don't
know
what
our
bill
is
going
to
be.
But
what
I
always
stress
reappraisal
is
a
good
thing.
It
creates
equity
in
the
communities.
B
The
taxes
has
nothing
to
do
with
what
I
do
every
day.
The
taxes
rate
is
set
here
by
this
Board
of
Commissioners,
based
on
the
values
that
I
have.
So
how
much
will
tax
will
increase
misunderstanding
of
reappraisal
and
why
it's
important,
educate
and
communicate
about
reappraisal,
x'
reappraisal
is
a
method
to
increase
revenue.
That's
what
we
hear
a
lot,
but
that
it's
not
true
revenue
neutral
is
a
function
of
reappraisal.
That
is
not
true.
Reappraisal
is
conducted
based
on
desired
budget,
not
true.
Our
assessed
value
and
market
value
always
the
same.
B
So
these
are
just
a
few
things
that
we
we
have
said.
This
is
what
citizens
say
to
us,
and
this
is
kind
of
what
we
hear.
This
is
their
concerns.
This
is
some
of
their
fears,
and
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
will
try
and
work
with
the
public
to
try
and
overcome
to
help
them
better
understand
why
we
do
what
we
do.
The
other
outreach
is
that
you
will
soon
see
a
new
face
on
tax
website.
We
have
implemented
a
new
application
which
makes
it
easier
for
our
citizens.
B
Only
thing
they
have
to
do
now
is
come
to
this
page,
either
top
in
their
name
or
just
top
in
their
street
address,
and
it
will
pull
back
immediately
the
houses
that
they
can
see
what
they
will
get
back
is
a
photo
of
their
house.
They
will
get
a
pic,
a
map
that
shows
their
property
lawns
and
from
this
screen
here,
they
will
be
able
to
file
an
appeal
they'll
be
able
to
get
comparables
for
their
property
if
they
want
to
file
an
appeal,
so
it
should
be
a
better
now
it
should
be.
B
It
will
be
a
better
experience
for
our
citizens.
It
will
make
it
easier
for
them
to
be
able
to
know
what's
going
on,
they
will
be
able
to
do
a
comparable
sales
grid
and,
as
you
see
here,
you
have
the
subject.
The
application
will
automatically
pick
the
three
comparables
it's
most
comparable
to
your
home
and
it
will
pull
back
that
for
you
and
show
you
what
an
estimated
value
should
be
many
people.
Many
citizens
have
no
idea
what
the
value
of
their
home
should
be.
B
So
this
helps
them
better,
see
the
market
and
better
understand
wow.
They
got
the
value
from
from
the
tax
department
that
they
did
appeals.
The
appeal
process
is
the
inverse
it's
in
the
informal
appeal.
The
statute
gives
a
citizen
there,
the
ability
to
appeal
to
the
Assessor
first
to
ask
for
consideration
of
a
change
or
a
correction.
If
that's
not
satisfactory,
then
they
can
go
to
the
formal
appeal,
which
is
the
board
of
equalization
and
review,
which
is
appointed
by
you.
B
The
next
step
would
be
the
newer
kind
of
property
tax
Commission
and
it
worked
on
a
court
of
appeals.
So
there
is
remedies
for
anyone
who
asks
questions
about
anything
that
we
value,
that
we
send
them
and
I
always
tell
citizens
that,
if
you're
concerned
about
anything,
but
you
think
that
we
didn't
consider,
then
please
you
need
to
appeal
the
value
and
tell
us
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
know.
The
appeal
process
in
formal
appeal
process
will
begin
online
at
Buncombe,
County
org.
B
The
following
documents
could
be
used
to
support
the
appeal
sales
comparison
of
properties
that
have
sold
before
January
2020,
an
appraisal
report
completed
within
two
years:
sales
contract
or
closing
statement
list
of
similar
properties
that
were
offered
for
sale,
photos
showing
the
condition
of
the
property
and
other
factors
and
other
information
that
may
assist
in
establishing
value.
You
need
these
items
that
the
citizen
can
provide
to
us
that
occur
before
January
1
of
2020.
We
will
happily
accept
and
review
the
schedule
January
through
December
of
2020.
We
will
establish
the
new
assessments.
B
February
will
publish
the
reappraisal
guide
and
start
the
public
outreach
Peck
campaign
upper
April
through
May,
scheduled
values
adopted
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
then
going
into
2021
January
through
February.
Will
mail
the
new
assessments
to
the
citizens
February
through
April
will
be
the
informal
peels
march
through
April.
B
That's
a
lot,
so
any
questions
something
you
would
like
to
me
to
go
back
to
something.
A
little
more
detailed
and
I
will
say
that
Commissioner
fryer
is
correct,
I
invite
any
of
you
that
want
to
come
and
talk
to
me
about
more
detail.
Please
come
and
let's
sit
down
and
talk
through
it.
I
want
you
to
be,
have
the
knowledge
and
be
able
to
talk
to
the
citizens
in
your
area
about
the
things
that's
going
on
so
I'm
welcome
to
welcome
you
to
come
anytime.
H
A
A
I
I
There
we
go
okay,
we
are
here
to
talk
about
a
potential
interlocal
agreement
with
the
city
of
Asheville
for
community
energy
campaign.
Essentially,
it's
also
a
really
an
update
of
the
work
of
the
energy
innovation
because
speak
a
little
closer
into
the
my
sure.
Sorry,
it's
also
really
an
update
about
the
work
of
the
energy
innovation
task
force.
So,
just
a
little
bit
of
a
background,
the
energy
innovation
task
force
Commission
passed
a
resolution
to
create
this
or
entity
back
in
2016.
I
It's
a
collaborative
between
the
city
and
the
county
and
Duke
Energy,
and
this
collaborative
had
two
initial
goals.
Number
one
was
to
avoid
the
construction
of
a
natural
gas
peaking
unit
and
the
other
was
to
transition
our
community
to
a
cleaner,
smarter
and
more
affordable
energy
future.
So
I'm,
actually
really.
One
of
the
great
reasons
I'm
here
today
is
to
say
mission
accomplished,
Co
a
certain
degree.
It's
nice
to
be
here
with
with
good
news,
because
that
peaking
unit
is
no
longer
on
Duke
long-term
plans.
I
So,
with
a
lot
of
hard
work
between
these
organizations
and
various
community
members,
we're
happy
to
say
that
we're
ready
to
move
forward.
So
really
this
is
about
determining
what
the
future
of
the
energy
innovation
task
force
looks
like.
So
the
ITF
obviously
is
seeking
to
continue
its
work
and
to
refocus
its
efforts
in
a
new
direction.
So
first
one
of
these
things
is
to
change
the
name.
I
Energy
innovation
task
force
as
a
EEI
TF,
a
bit
of
a
mouthful,
and
one
of
the
things
that
happened
throughout
this
process
was
the
sort
of
rebranding
of
these
efforts
under
the
Blue
Horizons
project.
And
so
it
only
made
sense
to
sort
of
keep
that
that
continuity
and
call
this
the
Blue
Horizons
project
community
council.
So
really
it's
just
just
changing
the
name
and
to
really
focus
its
new
energies
on
advancing
the
community-wide
renewable
energy
goals
of
the
city
in
the
county.
I
So
it's
also
to
move
this
to
a
nonprofit
model
which
essentially
is
to
house
this
organization
within
a
local
nonprofit
I'll,
get
to
a
little
bit
more
about
the
specifics
of
that
after
some
discussion
internally,
the
recommendation
was
that
we
should
basically
go
through
the
process
that
we
did
initially,
which
is
to
adopt
a
new
resolution
to
formally
establish
this
Community
Council.
So.
C
F
I
Is
what
blue
horizons
puzzle
is
so
the
energy
innovation
task
force
basically
did
a
marketing
campaign
to
understand
how
our
community
would
like
this
to
be
branded,
so
Duke
actually
paid
for
consultant
to
come
in
and
do
some
some
outreach
to
the
community
and
determine
what
would
be
the
best
way
to
brand
to
this.
These
efforts,
and
so
that
was
what
came
out
of
that
collective
sort
of
you
know.
I
Research
was
that
the
the
Blue
Horizons
project
was
sort
of
the
name
chosen
by
the
community,
and
so
that's
the
the
way
that
the
work
has
been
branded.
So
it's
the
energy
innovation
task
force
being
the
task
force
created
by
the
boards
and
then
the
work
being
done
under
the
branded
name
of
Blue
Horizons
projects.
Okay,
one.
C
I
C
C
E
I
I
F
I
C
I
F
I
mean
you
know,
we
don't
have
to
you
know
dance
around
what
it
is
sure.
Okay,
an
RFP
is
a
request
for
a
proposal,
correct
yeah.
It
involves
money
right,
yes,
sir,
not
saying
it
that
we
shouldn't
invest
that,
but
we
started
out.
We
just
need
to
be
very,
very
clear
on
what's
going
on,
we
started
out
with
a
with
a
with
a
collaboration
between
Duke
and
the
city
and
the
county,
because
people
were
alarmed
that
the
peaker
plant
was
going
to
be
built.
I
Currently,
we've
invested
$25,000
annually,
that's
been
our
allotted
sort
of
amount
of
dollars
that
go
towards
the
Blue
Horizons
projects,
the
city
and
the
county
have
both
been
allotting
$25,000
each
year
that
has
funded
an
individual
position
within
Blue
Horizons
project.
That's
a
coordinator
and
that
coordinator
has
been
in
charge
of
sort
of
managing
the
programs,
so
we're.
I
F
F
F
You
know
how
in
the
next
next
couple
of
years-
and
maybe
even
even
now,
you
know
that
I
don't
want
to
throw
out
a
big
number
of
people
that
are
living
in
Buncombe
County
will
have
heat
pumps
and
air
conditioners
that
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
worked
on,
because
the
the
freon
and
everything
in
them
is
less
or
out
they
did
and
they
need
to
be
improved
and
how
much
of
an
improvement
on
people's
lives
that
could
be.
You
know
to
pay
less
on
their.
F
You
know
their
a
power
bill
and
the
more
efficiency
and
the
quality
I
just
want
to
be
very
careful
that
we're
not
creating
and
growing
and
morphing
into
this.
These
big
organization.
That
typically,
is
not
not
a
good
idea
so,
and
you
can
take
that
as
a
challenge.
Absolutely
that's
what
it's
meant!
That's
what
it's
meant
to
be
understood,
appreciate
it
Thanks,
mm-hmm,.
A
I'll,
just
a
question:
I'll
just
share
just
one
kind
of
any
comment
on
this:
the
I.
Do
you
think
this
has
been
a
good?
This
has
been
a
good
partnership.
You
know
the
a
peeker
plant
was
gonna
cost
all
of
us
as
ratepayers
over
over
a
hundred
million
dollars
right
for
a
bottle,
and
that
was
only
gonna
run
a
few
days
a
year
and
probably
only
for
a
few
hours
on
a
few
days
a
year.
So
we
were
gonna
build
this.
You
know
one
hundred
million
dollar
plant
just
to
meet
the
needs
on
like
these.
A
You
know
extremely
coldest
mornings.
When
you
know
Duke
has
a
job
to
make
sure
that
we
have
reliable
electricity
all
the
time.
So
it's
great
for
a
bunch
of
different
reasons
that
we
figured
out
some
strategies,
some
much
less
expensive
strategies
to
make
sure
we'll
have
that
electrical
reliability
without
building
this
of
this
peaker
plant.
So
we
do
kind
of
have
a
chance
to
kind
of
have
a
community.
A
You
know
a
little
victory
dance
on
that,
but
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
interest
in
keeping
this
going,
even
though
there's
not
that
specific
kind
of
you
know
project
out
there
hanging
hanging
over
us
like
we
had
I.
Think
the
other
thing
that,
through
this
collaboration-
and
this
definitely
had
an
impact,
I
think
on
the
the
peaker
plant
decision
for
Duke
to
take
that
out
of
their
plans,
is
this
whole
increased
focus
on
weatherization
and
and
in
in
one
of
the
neatest
models.
A
That's
kind
of
emerge
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
rips
that
do
that
kind
of
work,
but
one
of
the
really
neat
ones
which
I
think
the
county
can
can.
Rightly,
you
know,
take
some
some
modest
credit
for
is
the
whole
Energy
Savers
Network,
where
you
know
it's
kind
of
like
the
Habitat
for
Humanity
model,
where
you've
got
volunteers
going
out
and
in
working
to
help,
make
people's
homes
safer
and
better
insulated.
A
And
you
know-
and
they
said
this
year-
energy
savers,
Network
helped
weatherize
200
homes
in
Buncombe,
County,
using
mostly
volunteers
and
just
kind
of
a
really
modest
level
of
some
professional
staff
support.
So
I
think
what
they've
accomplished
with
very
modest
resources
is
great
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
areas
where
the
folks
have
been
involved
in
this
feel
like
there's,
there's
some
really
good
opportunities
to
grow
that
successful
that
successful
model.
A
So
but,
of
course
all
that
will
come
back
to
the
Commission
for
further
discussion
when
we
when
we
look
at
those,
are
a
few
of
the
highlights
from
from
what
I've
seen
the
other
thing
about
about
this
just
kind
of
the
next
phase
is
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
people
have
been
very
dedicated.
It's
been
a
lot
of
time
serving
on
the
eitf
I.
Think
some
of
those
folks
kind
of
want
to
rotate
off
you
know
do
do
other
stuff,
there's
probably
also
great
some
of
them.
A
I
think
we
want
to
stay
involved,
and
there
will
also
be
a
chance
to
for
other
folks
in
the
community
who
want
to
get
involved
to
kind
of
create
some
space
for
that
too.
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
I
think
everyone's
kind
of
hoping
will
come
out
of
this
kind
of
kind
of
you
know,
then
starting
the
the
next
chapter
of
this
any
other
questions
all
right,
Jeremiah.
Thank
you!
So
much.
A
D
You
you
have
been
supplied
with
the
document
that
lists
the
individuals
that
apply
to
be
a
part
of
the
committee,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
to
choose
the
applicants
to
move
forward
within
the
process.
The
selection
process
I
think
some
information.
As
far
as
the
timeframe
is
that
we're
looking
at.
We
would
like
to
have
this
committee
formed
and
appointed
by
February
15th
I
think
so
they
can
get
the
work
started
and
we
also
have
Rachel
Nygaard
in
the
audience.
D
A
We
kind
of
we
kind
of
went
around
and
everybody
nominated
kind
of
their
first
choice.
Second,
choice
that
got
us
a
pretty
good
pool
of
candidates
to
interview,
so
we
could
do
something
similar
here
where
everyone
kind
of
thinks
about.
You
know
list
your,
maybe
first
second
third
choices
and
we'll
see
how
many
we
get
after
doing.
A
First
and
second,
if
we
need
a
few
more,
we
can
go
to
kind
of
the
third,
the
third
list,
but
unless
we
want
to
just
interview
every
single
person,
then
we
do
need
some
initial
process
to
to
narrow
it
down
a
little
bit.
So
I
thought
the
I
mean
we
haven't
finished
it
yet,
but
I
thought
the
initial
process
for
the
Greenway
committee
was
pretty
good.
So
people
like
to
do
something
similar
problem
here.
F
E
A
Why
don't
we
have
everybody
kind
of
kind
of
look
at
the
list
reflect
on
this
and
come
up
with
the
two
people?
You
definitely
want
to
consider
and
then
maybe
a
third
person
that
you
would
also
be
interested
in
if
we
need
to
keep
if
we
need
to
grow
the
pool
out
a
little
bit
further.
Is
that
sound
good,
yeah
and.
D
A
J
A
K
A
D
F
L
Afternoon,
I'm
here
before
you
this
afternoon,
just
to
provide
you
a
preview
of
an
item
that
will
be
coming
before
you
at
your
January
21st
meeting.
The
request
is
from
the
French
Broad
River
NPO.
The
NPO
is
requesting
a
resolution
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners
in
support
of
a
regional
transit
feasibility
study
that
the
NPO
will
be
conducting
over
the
current
fiscal
year
and
into
next
fiscal
year.
So
it's
a
two-year
study.
The
purposes
are
to
explore
regional
transit
options
regarding
coordination
of
effort
between
existing
transit
providers
and
to
improve
regional
transit
service.
L
There's
a
particular
emphasis
on
cross
county
connections,
which
most
of
our
systems
aren't
currently
doing.
The
study
would
be
funded
through
the
NPO
it
is,
it
has
been
funded
in
their
annual
budgeting
process
and
the
county
contributes
to
the
NPO
through
dues
on
a
regular
basis.
So
there
are
County
dollars
involved,
but
through
our
regular
membership
dues
they're
not
asking
for
additional
funding
support.
L
We
understand
that
the
NPO
request
for
resolution
is
basically
to
confirm,
particularly
with
the
governments
that
operate
a
public
transportation
system,
that
they
are
undertaking.
This
studies
they've
reached
out
to
Buncombe
Haywood
Henderson
Madison
counties
as
well
as
the
city
of
Asheville,
requesting
a
resolution.
L
Currently
chairman,
Newman
and
Commissioner
Edwards
are
serving
on
the
NPO
board,
so
they
have
seats
there
and
have
been
involved
in
the
approval
of
both
the
planning
work
program
and
this
the
study
moving
forward.
Kenny
legal,
has
the
resolution
in
hands.
I
don't
have
a
final
version
that
has
been
reviewed
by
legal
staff,
but
we
would
have
that
for
you
for
the
january
20
first
meeting
for
your
consideration,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
now
and
we'll
certainly
be
bringing
it
back
to
you
on
the
21st
as
well.
A
L
My
understanding
is
that
that
has
been
approved
through
the
budgeting
process
to
actually
move
forward
and
the
contents
of
what
would
be
considered.
The
request
for
qualifications
hasn't
been
executed
yet,
and
so
the
MPO
staff
wanted
to
get
this
in
front
of
all
of
the
the
governing
bodies
that
operate
a
transit
system
first
before
they
went
to
that
next
step.
Just
so
that
there
was
awareness
among
all
the
governments
about
this
study.
Moving
forward.
A
L
Funding
options,
what
different
parents,
regional
transit
systems,
can
do
so
yeah.
It
will
be
just
an
overview
and
present
those
kind
of
options
it
would.
The
the
resolution
is
worded
such
that
it
wouldn't
you
know,
suggest
that
the
findings
of
the
study
or
any
results
of
the
study
would
be
in
any
way
adopted
by
the
agent,
the
governing
body.
We.
A
L
The
intention
would
be
that
the
findings
of
the
study
would
then
be
brought
forward
again,
so
that
you
would
have
that
information.
I
think
the
concern
was
is
that
they
wanted
to
make
sure
all
that
the
governing
entities
knew
about
the
study
before
it
went
out
there
and
was
conducted
and
before
they
came
back
with
findings
from
a
study,
so
I
think
that's
the
reason
for
their
effort
are.
L
So
the
study,
according
to
their
unified
planning
work
program,
is
a
estimate
to
be
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
uses
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
local
funds
and
that's
pulled
from
all
of
the
participating
members
of
the
government
that
provide
dues
and
membership
fees.
So
it's
coming
out
of
their
regular
budget.
The
portion
that
would
come
out
of
a
bank
account
II
dollar
I,
don't
specifically
know,
but
we
could
find
that
information
out
from
from
the
NPO
they
could.
Let
us
know
that,
but.
F
L
L
Don't
know
the
specifics,
the
funding
for
the
MPO
actually
comes
through
the
governing
bodies
budget.
At
this
point
and
I
know
what
Buncombe
County
was
contributing
a
few
years
ago
when
it
was
coming
through
the
planning
departments
budget,
but
it's
comparable
from
what
I
would
call
the
button
county
they're
the
two
largest
contributors,
our
button
County
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
to
the
to
the
MPO.
A
E
You
for
that
clarification
good
afternoon
commissioners,
here
today
to
talk
to
you
about
the
sobriety,
sobriety,
treatment
and
recovery
program.
This
is
a
program
that
was
actually
initiated
and
created
in
the
state
of
Kentucky
in
2007,
began
to
see
great
results
in
working
with
parents
with
substance
use
disorder
whose
children
were
in
the
child
welfare
system
and
2017.
E
We
began
July
of
2017.
We
decided
to
try
that
model
in
Buncombe
County
we'd
had
a
tremendous
increase
in
our
foster
care.
Population
had
spiraled
up
to
about
392
children
that
year,
and
so
we
implemented
that
in
2017
and
2018.
We
coupled
that,
with
a
real
focus
on
trauma-informed
practice
and
the
two
years
we've
seen
our
foster
care
rates
drop
below
to
our
lowest
level
in
four
years
down
to
331
children.
E
As
a
result
of
that-
and
we
also
were
seeing
at
that
time
that
60
to
70
percent
of
all
our
children
who
entered
foster
care
had
parents
with
some
type
of
substance
use
disorder
so
in
the
fall
actually
of
November
of
2018.
We
are
approached
Rebecca,
Smith
who's
here
today.
If
you
have
questions
that
I
can
answer
were
approached
by
the
state
of
North,
Carolina
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services,
to
ask
if
we
would
be
willing
to
expand
our
Start
program
if
they
would
salt
federal
funding
to
cover
the
complete
cost.
E
Of
course,
we
said
sure
we'd
be
willing
to
listen
and
we've
talked
with
them
and
walked
with
them
through
that
grant
process.
And
then,
in
December
of
this
year
they
came
to
us
with
an
award
letter
through
the
victims
of
crime
act
and
then
that
federal
dollars
is
flowing
into
the
governor's
crime.
Commission
and
they've
asked
us
if
we
would
double
our
program
with
the
purpose
of
continuing
to
evaluate
the
effectiveness
of
it,
with
the
hopes
that
they'll
be
able
to
take
this
model
statewide.
E
Obviously,
Buncombe
is
not
the
only
County
where
many
many
children
are
coming
into
foster
care
due
to
parental
substance
use,
so
what
their
offers
the
grant
cycle
actually
began
in
April
of
2010
April
and
then
get
our
award
letter
until
December.
So
if
you
see
the
total
of
Award
for
two
years
as
one
point
three
eight
five
million
dollars,
we
are
actually
seeking
clarification
as
to
whether
we
have
two
years
from
January
to
spend
this
money,
or
only
until
the
federal
grant
cycle
would
run
out
March
31st
of
2021.
E
We
have
not
gotten
an
answer
yet,
but
we
wanted
to
bring
this
to
you
for
your
consideration.
So
you
see
it
will
double
our
capacity
to
serve
families
we'll
continue
to
build
our
trauma,
responsive
culture.
We
believe
it
will
continue,
reduce
the
number
of
children
in
foster
care
and
the
amazing
thing
about
our
statistics
actually
have
been
better
than
the
state
of
Kentucky.
E
So
far,
so
of
all
the
cases
we
have
closed
through
the
Start
initiative,
83
percent
of
the
children
involved
in
those
cases
have
been
either
maintained
successfully
in
their
home
or
been
able
to
return
home
and
those
parents
are
in
active
recovery.
So
the
data
is
pretty
amazing.
This
is
how
the
grant
would
break
down
if
we
take
it.
So
this
model
actually
is
a
peer
support
model.
E
So
a
start
team
consists
of
a
supervisor
three
professional
social
workers
hired
by
the
department
and
then
three
peer
support
specialists
hired
through
a
contract,
and
then
we
also
contract
for
therapeutic
clinical
assessments
and
and
therapy.
So
you
can
see
how
this
one
point-three
would
break
down,
for
those
staff
would
be
County,
FTEs
the
benefit,
salary
benefits,
and
then
the
contract
service
would
be
the
the
coordinator,
the
mentors
and
ten
percent
of
a
clinical
supervisor.
The
rest
are
pretty
much
operating
costs
for
the
total
of
one
point:
three:
eight
five
million.