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Description
Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on March 7, 2023. To review the full agenda visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
B
B
B
I
will
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board.
All
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
Independence
of
the
office
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
Faithfully,
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
Affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
B
B
I
want
to
make
an
announcement
that
any
members
of
the
public
who
are
attending
the
meeting
who
parked
in
the
county
is
parking
facility
next
door
or
utilize
public
transportation
to
attend
the
meeting
can
get
validation
for
your
parking
or
Transit
passes
from
one
of
the
security
officers
who's
here
this
evening
you
can
see
them
on
your
way
out.
B
B
Staff
have
asked
that
we
pull
from
the
consent
agenda,
I'm,
sorry
under
new
business,
not
the
consent
agenda
under
new
business.
The
budget
amendment
for
additional
Grant
funds
for
Woodfin
Greenway
there's
some
additional
information
that
needs
to
be
worked
on
so
we'll
be
ready
for
that.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
and
the
remainder
of
the
agenda
as
published,
except
for
the
Woodfin
Greenway
item?
A
B
Opposed
all
right,
we
come
to
public
comment
and
we
have
several
folks
who've
signed
up
to
speak
and
is
there
anyone
Mr
Joyner
that
you're
aware
of
in
the
Overflow
room.
B
Sure
all
right,
so
four
folks
have
signed
up
we'll
go
through
the
that
list.
If
anyone
would
like
to
address
the
board
after
we
go
through
the
folks
that
have
signed
up
there'll
be
an
opportunity
to
take
additional
comments
at
that
time.
Every
person's
got
three
minutes
to
address
the
board.
B
You'll
get
an
orange
light
when
you've
got
about
30
seconds
left
and
then
a
red
light
when
the
three
minutes
is
up-
and
we
ask
that
you-
please
discontinue
your
comments
when
your
time's
up,
because
we
want
to
give
everyone
the
same
amount
of
time
to
address
the
board
and
if
you
just
come
to
the
mic,
and
just
tell
us
your
name
and
where
you
live.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here.
The
first
person
that
signed
up
is
Andrea
Clark.
C
Hello,
I'm,
Andrew,
Clark
and
I
was
here
last
month
in
support
of
McCormick
field
and
the
funding
and
the
American
way
of
life
I'm.
Here
today,
as
legislative
director
for
Bedingfield
scheidle
chapter
14,
Disabled
American,
Veterans
dav-14
is
dedicated
to
a
single
purpose:
empowering
veterans
to
lead
high
quality
lives
with
respect
and
dignity.
C
I'm
here
today
asking
a
County's
urgent
support:
we're
helping
a
unique
program
at
the
Charles
George
VA
Medical
Center
a
program
not
federally
funded,
but
thanks
to
amazing
Community
Partners
from
across
this
great
nation
donations
and
dedicated
volunteers
have
continued
the
operation
of
this
program
for
over
a
decade.
A
program
that
few
other
VA
sustain.
The
program
I'm
talking
about
demonstrates
kindness
to
the
simple
free
cup
of
coffee,
hot
chocolate
or
cider
for
our
veterans.
C
Thanks
to
the
dedication
from
Joe's
coffees
soldiers,
Angels
DAV,
chapter
14,
American,
Legion,
Post,
70,
American,
Legion,
Post,
77,
American,
Legion,
Post,
II,
VFW,
Amvets,
Marine,
Corps,
League,
Sal,
American,
Legion,
auxiliary,
VFW,
auxiliary
and
Dav
auxiliary,
just
to
name
a
few
in
this
community.
Here
this
day,
I
encourage
this
County
to
join
the
list
and
become
an
active
Community
partner.
C
Supporting
the
Charles
George
Ba's
coffee
for
veterans
program
send
a
jack
a
check
today
to
the
office
of
development
and
Civic
engagement,
1100
1100,
Tunnel,
Road,
Asheville,
North,
Carolina
2805,
the
county
Support
would
help
ensure
Veterans
of
today
and
tomorrow
and
Beyond
have
the
opportunity
for
social
engagement.
A
thank
you
message
and
a
digital
access
to
information
about
the
benefits
earned
through
military
service
benefits
that
bring
this
County
over
90
million
dollars
a
year
in
compensation
alone.
That's
why
DAV
encourages
this
County
to
increase
the
pay
and
Staffing
for
our
veterans
service
officers.
C
Additionally,
we
encourage
this
board
to
pass
a
resolution
supporting
the
expansion
of
tax
exemption
for
Veterans
as
the
resolution
supporting
North
Carolina
House,
Bill,
139
American-made
flags
and
pass
a
resolution
today.
Supporting
tax
exemption
for
emergency
responders
DAV
can
be
reached
at
dav14.org
or
by
calling
828-367-0037
in
closing
the
Disabled
American
Veterans
Chapter
14
accomplishes
our
mission
by
ensuring
that
veterans
and
their
families
can
access
the
full
range
of
benefits
available
to
them.
Fighting
for
the
interests
of
America's,
injured,
Heroes
on
Capitol
Hill
and
educating
the
public
about
the
great
sacrifices
of
veterans.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
Andrew
all
right.
The
next
person
that
signed
up
is
and
I
apologize
if
I'm
mispronouncing
one's
name
guy
Skinner.
E
Anyway,
I'm
here
to
my
name,
is
Dr
Guy
Skinner
I'm
here
to
advocate
for
McCormick
field
and
the
Asheville
Tourists
I've
been
to
the
Asheville
area
since
1940s,
when
my
I
haven't
been
40s,
my
grandmother
moved
here
in
the
40s
I
can't
imagine
how
it
was
then,
but
I
was
born
in
50s
and
I
came
here
every
summer
and
spent
Summers
here
going
to
McCormick
field.
I
can
still
close
my
eyes
and
remember
the
air
and
the
heat
anyway.
E
Asheville
tourist
baseball
is
a
big
Community
thing.
Our
friends
come
from
out
of
state
and
they
have
two
things
they
want
to
see.
They
one
of
them
is
their
favorite
restaurant,
but
they
also
everybody
wants
to
come
to
the
Asheville
tour
Escape
everybody
that
comes
recognizes
that,
in
their
opinion,
McCormick
field
is
the
nicest
most
quaint,
comfortable,
homey
baseball
stadium
around.
E
We
realize
it
needs
a
few
tweaks
here
and
there,
but
it's
a
great
place
and
we
recognize
the
fact,
as
did
the
city
council
people
that
family
is,
is
important
and
that's
one
of
the
few
places
that
families
can
go
for
a
family
outing
I
mean
you
can't
take
your
kid
to
the
microbrew.
Really
you
can,
but
but
I
mean
family
is,
is
very
important
and
the
people
that
work
there
from
Brian
to
Larry
to
Alyssa
to
Hannah
to
the
ushers.
Everybody
treats
you
great,
like
family.
E
We
go
three
times
a
week
and
we
we
can't
imagine
what
Asheville
would
be
like
if
it
went
on
the
way
of
Johnson,
City
or
Elizabethtown
and
lost
their
baseball
team
anyway.
Please
I
I
beg
you
to
vote
for
McCormick
field
and
the
improvements
it
means
a
lot
to
all
of
us
and
and
our
friends.
Thank
you
that
I
can
give
somebody
else.
My
other
minute
and
thank
you.
F
My
name
is
Dede
Stiles
and
I
live
in
Swannanoa.
Buncombe
County
is
a
Headwaters
area.
The
people
getting
their
water
from
the
Burnett
Reservoir
get
their
water
straight
from
the
heights
of
craggy
through
the
water
pipes
into
their
homes,
but
that
is
not
the
end
of
the
water
story
from
each
house
and
business.
Most
of
the
water
goes
to
the
sewage
treatment
plant
to
be
cleaned
and
then
into
the
French
Broad
River
from
there.
F
It
takes
the
long
way
to
eventually
join
the
Mississippi
River
to
make
it
to
the
Gulf
of
Mexico
along
the
way
it
passes,
cities
that
take
the
water
for
their
citizens
from
the
river.
We
are
lucky
to
get
the
water
first
fresh
from
the
mountain,
but
that
privilege
comes
with
a
great
responsibility
to
be
good
stewards
of
not
only
the
quality
but
also
the
quantity
of
water
we
send
along
to
others,
Downstream.
Of
course,
a
lot
of
the
water
we
send
Downstream
does
not
pass
through
Asheville's
water
system.
F
Here
in
Buncombe
County,
we
completely
within
the
borders
of
our
County,
the
Swannanoa
River.
If
that
river
is
Muddy
and
carrying
silt
and
trash
and
toxic
chemicals,
we
did
that,
if
that,
if
the
rain
runs
off
instead
of
soaking
into
the
mountains,
causing
high
water
and
rainy
times
and
running
too
low
and
dry
times,
we
are
responsible
and
if
we
want
the
water
to
join
the
French,
Broad
River
and
add
a
steady
flow,
we
can
do
that.
The
water
is
not
just
our
water
that
water
belongs
to
everyone
down
the
river.
F
Of
course,
only
a
small
part
of
the
water
cities
used
Downstream
from
us
comes
from
Buncombe
County.
Other
Headwater
areas
need
to
be
good.
Stewards
of
their
water,
too
Buncombe
County
could
take
the
lead
in
caring
for
the
water
that
is
sent
down.
The
river
Buncombe
County
could
be
the
Showplace
for
how
Headwater
areas
care
for
their
water,
but
we
can't
do
that
if
we
keep
covering
up
our
steep
Mountain
sides
with
impervious
surface
like
rooftops
and
Roads
cities,
Downstream
depend
on
Headwater
areas
to
provide
them
with
good,
steady
water.
F
Buncombe
is
only
a
small
part
of
that
system,
but,
as
has
been
true
of
many
problems
before
you
are
either
part
of
the
solution,
or
you
are
part
of
the
problem,
Buncombe
County
can
either
be
part
of
the
solution
or
we
will
be
part
of
the
problem.
If
we
take
care
of
our
steep
mountainsides,
we
could
be
part
of
showing
other
Headwater
areas
how
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
G
Hello,
my
name
is
Anthony
pangy
I'm,
the
executive
director
for
the
American
foundation
for
informed
consent,
I'm
here
to
provide
you
information
regarding
Long
covet.
Specifically,
it's
cause
biomarkers
weighted
diagnosis
as
well
as
treatment,
and
this
is
a
related
from
research
that
has
been
done
by
Dr
Bruce
Patterson.
Who
is
the
president
of
incel
DX?
He
is
a
world
expert
on
chemokines
and
cytokines,
which
are
like
the
neurotransmitters
for
your
immune
system.
Immune
system
has
a
chemical
interaction
and
those
are
cytokines
and
chemokines
and
Dr
Bruce
Patterson
is
considered.
G
So
what
I've
provided
to
the
clerk
is,
and
hopefully
to
you
all
as
a
handout
I
can
provide
this
to
you
in
media
as
well
to
a
lecture
that
Dr
Bruce
Patterson
gave
it
an
Immunology
conference
in
Georgetown,
as
well
as
two
peer-reviewed
research
reviews.
Ultimately,
the
treatment
for
covid-19
occurs
when
the
senescence
pathway
is
interrupted
and
it's
a
ccr5
antagonist.
What
he
uses
is
maravaroc
m-a-r-a-v-I-r-o-c
has
a
very
good
safety
profile.
Children
have
used
it
for
years.
B
B
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
under
good
news
is
the
recognition
of
Taylor
Jones
as
a
top
100
influencer
in
local
government
and
Alex
McKnight
I.
Think
from
Emergency
Services
finance
manager,
our
Emergency
Services
finance
manager.
I
will
present
this
item.
B
H
My
name
is
Alison
a
business
manager
for
emergency
services,
I'm
here
to
help
recognize
Taylor
Jones,
our
Emergency
Services
director,
Taylor
Joseph,
has
been
recognized
by
engaging
local
government
leaders,
better
known
as
El
Geo
as
a
top
100
influencer
in
local
government.
Elgo
is
an
organization
that
engages
in
the
brightest
minds
of
local
government.
H
I
I
I
Over
the
last
three
years,
our
Public
Safety
communication
dispatchers,
our
Emergency
Medical
Service,
Providers,
emergency
management
team,
our
law
enforcement
and
fire
service
teams
have
been
dedicated
their
time
and
effort
and
resources
to
uplift
and
serve
and
save
and
protect
their
Community.
During
the
face
of
a
global
pandemic.
I
Civil
unrest,
the
opioid
epidemic
tropical
storm
Fred
that
received
the
presidential
declaration
disaster
declaration,
but
also
during
all
kind
of
crazy
things,
we've
never
thought
of
about
Workforce
shortages
and
supply
chain
shortages,
and
sometimes
we've
all
felt
like
well.
What's
next,
it's
come
at
us
from
every
angle,
but
what
I
want
to
tell
you
is
I
stand
in
front
of
y'all
today,
except
this
recognition
on
behalf
of
my
team.
It
is
I've
been
a
unique
time
for
our
team.
I
They
keep
standing
up
and
serving
well
with
a
smile
on
their
face
with
a
little
rest
to
our
men
and
women
of
Emergency.
Services
I
accept
this
recognition
on
your
behalf
for
a
job
well
done
because
of
credit
revolves
around
my
team
because
they
do
amazing
work,
they're,
the
true
Trailways
Trail,
Blazers
and
innovators
of
Buncombe
County
saving
lives
every
day
with
their
skill
and
expertise
also
would
be
remissed
if
I
didn't
think
our
County
manager's
office
and
Avril
Pinder
for
her
leadership,
as
well
as
our
commissioner's
leadership.
I
Y'all,
provided
us
with
leadership
and
support
through
the
last
three
years.
They
have
saved
countless
lives
and
made
a
real
difference
in
our
community
and
for
that
I
thank
y'all
and
I.
Thank
our
team
for
everything
they
do
every
day,
save
lives
in
Buncombe
County
and
support
y'all
give
them.
Thank
you.
J
And
whereas
Buncombe
County
is
committed
to
creating
an
inclusive
community
that
celebrates
diversity
and
ensures
all
residents
have
Equitable
opportunities
to
lead
healthy,
peaceful,
safe
and
sustainable
lives.
And
whereas
whether
serving
in
elected
positions,
Across
America,
leading
ground
barracking
civil
rights
movements,
venturing
into
unknown
Frontiers
or
programming,
revolutionary
Technologies
generations
of
women
that
knew
their
gender
was
no
obstacle
to
what
they
could
accomplish.
Have
long,
stirred
new
ideas
and
opened
new
doors.
J
Now,
therefore,
be
it
resolved
that,
on
this
21st
day
of
March
2023,
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
does
hereby
Proclaim
March
2023,
as
women's
History
Month
a
time
to
celebrate
the
important
contributions
that
women
have
made
to
our
families.
Our
stories,
our
community,
our
state
and
our
nation.
So
I'm,
Bernie,
Newman,
chairman
Board
of
count
Buncombe
County,
Board
of
Commissioners.
K
Wow,
what
a
beautiful
Proclamation?
Thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
Diana
Sierra,
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
Aya
and
I?
Am
the
CEO
of
the
YWCA
of
Asheville
I'm
here
with
some
of
our
staff
and
board
and
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
County,
Commissioners,
County
leadership
and
staff
for
honoring
the
YWCA
of
Asheville
to
to
be
a
recipient
of
this
Proclamation
of
women's
History
Month,
the
YWCA
of
Asheville?
Our
mission
is
to
eliminate
racism,
Empower
women
and
promote
peace,
Justice
freedom
and
dignity
for
all.
K
At
the
YWCA
of
Asheville,
we
combine
advocacy
and
programming
in
order
to
generate
institutional
change
for
over
3
000
community
members
annually
our
services
Advanced
racial
Justice,
Empower
women,
promote
health
and
nurture
children.
We
have
been
a
part
of
the
Asheville
Community
fighting
racism
and
gender
inequality
since
1907.,
and
while
we
are
proud
of
our
accomplishments,
as
this
Proclamation
attests,
there's
still
a
lot
more
work
for
us
to
do.
When
we
talk
about
gender
equity.
K
Currently,
the
YW
is
led
by
an
all
women
identifying
board
and
all
women
identifying
leadership,
team
and
83
percent
of
our
staff
are
women,
as
we
accept
the
women's
History
Month
Proclamation.
We
know
that
all
aspects
of
our
community
are
made
more
impactful,
more
vibrant
and
more
collaborative
by
the
presence
and
role
of
women
in
our
community
and
the
YW
is
humbled
and
proud
to
be
a
part
of
the
work
that's
happening
every
day
and
we
celebrate
those
accomplishments
with
you
all.
So.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
L
M
Sir
I
have
two
items:
first,
I
want
to
introduce
to
you
our
new
Chief
equity
and
human
race
officer,
Dr
norio
Armstrong
noriel.
Would
you
come
forward
so
Dr
Armstrong
she's
originally
from
Texas,
but
she
has
amid
Asheville
her
home
for
the
past
seven
years.
She
earned
her
doctorate
in
counselor
education
and
supervision
from
the
University
of
Texas
at
San.
Antonio
Dr
Armstrong
was
a
licensed
clinical
mental
health,
counselor
supervisor,
a
National,
Certified
counselor
and
licensed
chemical
dependency,
counselor
she's,
sir.
She
previously
served
as
CEO
and
executive
director
of
a
therapist.
M
Like
me,
a
non-profit
organization
here
in
Asheville,
that's
aiming
to
decrease
mental
health
stigma.
Dr
Armstrong
is
a
former
High
School
American
Sign
Language
teacher
and
uses
her
knowledge
of
ASL
and
the
deaf
Community
to
advocate
for
better
mental
health
practices
within
that
community.
She
worked
as
a
counselor
at
Morrisville
University.
She
teaches
at
lenoir-rhyne
University
and
is
a
former
associate
professor
at
Montreal
College
Dr
Armstrong
is
active
in
the
community
working
with
local
churches,
Learning
Centers
and
the
YWCA.
M
N
N
We
formed
a
selection
committee
representing
a
diverse
set
of
perspectives.
We
drew
first
from
Buncombe,
County's,
equity
and
inclusion,
work
group
and
then
filled
in
and
rounded
out
that
team,
with
perspectives
and
expertise
like
Community,
engagement
and
general
services,
and
also
included
some
Community
Partners
from
City
of
Asheville
public
art
from
the
Asheville
area,
Arts
Council,
which
is
now
known
as
Arts
AVL,
as
well
as
Asheville
creative
arts.
So
thank
you
to
the
folks
whose
names
are
on
the
screen
for
all
of
the
participation
and
work
on
this
project.
N
So
far,
the
selection
criteria
that
the
committee
looked
at
we're
across
these
five
categories
that
are
listed
here.
We
were
looking
for
proposals
that
would
amplify
our
sense
of
place
that
would
embody
the
equity
theme
that
would
add
Beauty
to
our
public
spaces
and
be
high
quality
work.
N
So
without
further
Ado,
please
meet
the
selected
artists,
Gabriel
Eng
Getz,
who
will
be
doing
a
mural
for
the
register
of
deeds,
building
Leslie
reynalde
Yanko,
who
will
be
doing
the
Hillyard
Street
wall
and
Wesley,
is
here
with
us
this
evening,
as
well
as
Jared,
who
is
here
who
will
be
doing
Jared
Wheatley
the
College,
Street
parking,
deck
and
I'll.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
each
of
these
artists
and
their
proposals,
beginning
with
Gabriel.
N
He
is
an
artist
whose
studio
is
based
in
Durham
North
Carolina.
His
work
explores
the
cultural
history
of
identity,
including
his
own,
as
an
Asian-American
born
and
raised
in
the
south,
our
human
connection,
to
the
natural
world
outside
of
creating
artwork
for
clients
and
collectors.
He
works
with
his
community
to
show
showcase
an
uplift,
North,
Carolina's,
vibrant
and
diverse
art
scene.
N
This
project
features
a
community
engagement
process
with
a
specific
focus
on
the
nearby
neighborhoods
that
will
inform
the
specific
design.
Gabe
will
be
mentoring,
an
artist
Apprentice
as
part
of
the
project,
which
will
be
a
young
person
from
Buncombe
County.
Some
of
his
sample
work
is
shown
on
the
screen,
for
example,
in
the
center,
is
an
image
of
a
mural
that
he
created
last
year
with
the
city
of
Morganton
and
Burke
County
Arts
Council.
N
N
After
graduating
from
high
school
and
obtaining
an
associate
in
Fine
Arts
from
AB
Tech,
she
was
driven
to
start
her
own
business
devoted
to
murals,
illustrations
and
graphic
design.
Art
has
always
had
a
significant
place
in
her
life
and
she
is
excited
to
add
color
to
our
everyday
lives.
N
This
draft
mural
concept
that
you
see
on
the
screen
is
featured,
which
will
be
featured
on
that
Hilliard
Street
wall
has
12
faces
each
representing
a
member
of
the
Latino
community
within
our
society,
with
a
quote
in
the
center
that
trans
written
in
Spanish
that
translates
to
English,
you
are
Latin
Pride
for
this
project.
Leslie
is
partnering
with
technical
advisors
and
prominent
local
artists
in
our
community.
Gus
Cuddy
and
Catherine
Crawford
and
Leslie
will
also
be
partnering
with
Asheville
area.
Arts
Council,
now
known
as
Arts
AVL
for
fiscal
sponsorship
of
the
project.
N
N
Back
in
December,
this
board
of
County
Commissioners
approved
153
438
dollars
to
establish
a
public
art
fund
that
was
through
an
unrestricted
one-time
source
of
funds
that
came
to
us
through
the
federal
government's
fund,
called
local
assistance
and
tribal
consistency
fund.
The
total
project
cost
for
the
creative
Equity
mural
project
will
come
in
at
under
100
000,
leaving
us
about
55
000
to
apply
to
Future
public
art
projects.
N
We
will
Implement
a
maintenance
plan
and
display
the
work.
Our
commitment
is
to
keep
it
up
for
a
period
of
not
less
than
five
years,
notwithstanding
any
unforeseen
circumstances,
of
course,
and
we
we
fully
expect
that
these
works
of
art
will
make
contributions
to
our
community.
That
will
lead
Buncombe
County
to
choose
to
display
them
much
longer.
But
that's
our
initial
commitment,
so
at
this
time,
I
will
respond
to
any
questions
from
the
board
and
defer,
of
course,
to
to
Leslie
or
Jared.
If
you
have
questions
specific
to
their
to
their
works
of
art,.
P
Yeah
I
think
this
is
really
cool
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
staff
for
going
through
this.
It's
it's
not
I'm
sure
not
in
every
County
staff
would
be
open
to
this
idea.
Especially
you
know.
One
of
those
is
a
six-story
building.
So
that's
that's
going
to
be
pretty
unique
and
really
cool.
So
thank
you
for
working
through
through
this
and
allowing
this
to
happen
on
the
on
the
Hilliard
Avenue
project,
specifically
when
you're
standing
right
in
front
of
that
wall,
you're,
basically
standing
in
the
the
lane
of
traffic.
N
Is
a
narrow
place
without
a
sidewalk,
so
we've
been
doing
some
strategizing
on
the
safest
ways
to
get
that
accomplished.
Q
I
also
want
to
note
the
incredible
talent
that
we
have
locally,
who
we're
also
trained
locally
by
our
local
Community
College
I
know.
Mr
Wheatley
also
attended
a
B
Tech
alongside
Leslie
just
a
few
years
apart
from
each
other,
but
just
such
a
testament
to
what
great
talent
we
have
being
trained
here
locally.
B
B
B
All
right,
no
items
under
old
business,
we
come
to
new
business.
The
first
item
is
the
open
space,
Bond
conservation
criteria,
adoption.
A
R
Yeah,
can
you
hear
me
okay,.
R
Great
thank
you.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
you,
commissioner,
for
allowing
me
to
join
me
tonight,
albeit
virtually
my
colleague,
Ariel
zeit
and
I,
are
here
to
First,
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
open
space
Bond
and
an
update
on
progress,
and
then
Ariel
is
going
to
present
the
evaluation
criteria
for
conservation
projects
to
be
funded
through
this
Bond,
and
we
are
going
to
ask
that
you
adopt
that
criteria
of
a
quick
refresher.
The
open
space
Bond
was
one
of
two
general
obligation:
bonds
voted
for
it
or
referendum.
R
R
So
where
are
we
now
at
the
open
face
spawn
first,
each
of
those
advisory
boards
that
I
just
mentioned
has
been
selected.
Additionally,
as
you
know,
the
Commissioners
appointed
the
members
for
the
community
oversight
committee,
which
is
responsible
for
the
financial
and
legal
oversight
of
both
General
obligation
bonds.
The
Chamber
of
Commerce
has
also
acquainted
their
member
of
that
committee
as
well.
R
Second,
the
project
manager
for
the
open
space
bond,
which
is
myself,
has
been
hired
and
our
team
has
been
hard
at
work
with
some
community
outreach
to
keep
the
public
up
to
date
on
the
bond
and
to
provide
opportunities
for
public
input
which
I'll
go
into
further
detail
momentarily,
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
in
the
process
of
developing
that
evaluation
criteria.
For
each
project
bucket
and
that
criteria
is
all
expected
to
be
complete
by
the
end
of
June
2023..
R
R
We
have
a
few
tools
that
we've
put
together
with
the
communications
team
towards
this
end,
the
first
of
which
is
a
public
input,
page
website
which
went
live
on
March
1st.
You
can
see
a
quick
screen
grab
of
that
website
to
a
right.
This
website
provides
some
great
educational
content
on
the
open
space
Bond
the
types
of
projects
that
can
be
funded
and
our
process
for
project
selection
and
oversight.
S
S
All
right,
so
we
came
back
I
guess
we
were
here
last
in
December
of
last
year,
so
I'm
going
to
do
a
bit
of
a
recap
of
what
we
shared
at
the
previous
briefing.
S
So
we
we
have
two
advisory
boards
that
oversee
our
land
conservation
program.
These
boards
have
some
some
differences
and
special
focuses.
So
first
we
have
the
land
conservation,
Advisory
Board,
which
I
may
refer
to
as
lcab,
but
this
board
really
funds,
non-profit
Land
Trust
projects.
So
that's
the
main
focus
of
this
board
is
to
provide
funding
for
these
conservation
easements.
The
focus
areas
for
these
projects
are
pretty
broad.
We
have
wildlands
view
sheds,
farmlands,
Forest
lands
stream,
riparian,
easements
and
public
benefit
easements.
S
The
second
board
that
we
have
working
on
the
easement
process
is
the
agricultural
Advisory
Board,
so
this
board
really
oversees
the
county-led
Farmland
preservation
program,
and
so
that
is
the
the
main
program
that's
eligible
for
those
the
funding
through
that
board.
So
our
main
focus
area
for
this
board
is
mostly
farm
and
Forest
land
within
the
county,
so
both
boards
follow
a
very
similar
evaluation
system,
looking
at
kind
of
a
two-tiered
system.
S
So,
first
we
rank
the
land
using
specific
criteria
to
each
board,
and
then
we
determine
the
funding
source
and
the
amount
that
the
project
is
eligible
for.
So
we
determine
if
a
project
is
eligible
for
a
variety
of
Grant
funds
or
funding
from
our
general
fund
that
you
fund
a
certain
amount
for
and
the
other
option
now
we
have
is
for
bond
funds.
S
So
this
is
just
a
snapshot
at
one
of
the
flow
charts
we've
created
to
explain
the
AG
Advisory
Board
process.
We
have
a
very
similar
one
for
the
land
conservation
board
process
where
at
the
beginning,
we
we
rank
each
project
individually
and
then
at
the
the
kind
of
second
stage
of
the
flowchart
is
explaining
the
funding
source
and
the
amount.
S
So
I'll
go
over
the
AG
Advisory
Board
project
evaluation
system.
Just
a
quick
reminder:
AG
Advisory
Board
is
funding
count
the
county-led
Farmland
preservation
program,
mostly
focusing
on
farm
and
Forest
land.
So
this
really
is
broken
into
two
sections:
we're
looking
at
land
evaluation,
which
is
really
focused
on
the
soil
type.
B
S
Is
the
existing
system
for
both
boards
yeah,
the
The
Proposal,
that
is
that
has
been
developed
specifically
for
the
bond,
is
on
the
next
slide,
so
we'll
we'll
talk
specifically
on
bond
funds,
but
both
of
these
board
boards
are
using
their
current
evaluation
system
that
have
they've
both
been
recently
updated
within,
probably
the
last
year.
So
it's
it's
very
current.
S
So,
yes,
the
land
valuation
focuses
on
farm
and
Forest
land
soils
to
really
encourage
that
we're
having
prime
agricultural
soils
on
these
properties,
and
then
we
also
take
into
account
a
site
assessment
determining
the
clustering
potential
making
sure
we're
really
getting
the
most
impact
for
our
conserved
Land
by
lumping
the
land
you
know
together
in
certain
regions
of
the
county.
S
So
that's
that
contiguous
land
preservation
we're
also
trying
to
really
encourage
the
land
stewardship
of
you
know
the
property
owner.
Are
they
taking
good
care
of
the
property?
Are
there
you
know
Scenic
and
environmental
qualities
to
protect,
and
then
we
take
into
account
the
development
pressure
of
that
region.
S
So
this
evaluation
system
is
a
weighted
sum,
so
each
category,
as
you
can
see,
has
some
weight
given
to
it,
and
then
this
is
is
specifically
what
we
created
to
determine
if
a
project
is
eligible
for
bond
funds,
so
really
what
we?
What
we'll
see
here
is
within
the
first
yellow
box.
Each
board
has
determined
kind
of
their
top
criteria
that
they
want
to
make
sure
that
a
easement
purchase
project
would
meet.
So
we
need
to
meet
at
least
two
of
these
following
criteria
and
so
for
the
AG
Advisory
Board.
S
Here's
a
few
examples
of
the
criteria.
Is
it
within
one
of
the
Farmland
priority
regions
that
we've
we've
brought
to
the
to
the
commission,
I
guess
maybe
six
months
ago
with
it
with
an
example
of
what
these
Focus
areas
are.
So
that's
that's
one
of
the
options
is
it
close
and
proximity
to
other
protected
lands?
Does
it
have
Prime,
unique
and
locally
important
soils?
Is
this
a
project
of
significant
environmental
or
Scenic
importance?
S
Is
it
an
active
or
working
farm
or
a
Sentry
Farm,
that's
been
around
for
at
least
100
years
and
then
another
example
is:
is
it
of
significant
size?
Is
you
know,
is
it
a
lot
of
Acres
that
we
could
really
make
a
big
impact
with,
and
then?
S
Lastly,
is
this
a
time
sensitive
project,
sometimes
when
we
have
to
apply
for
Grant
funds
to
fund
a
project
that
can
take
many
years
to
go
through
so
if
it's
a
time,
sensitive
project,
forced
cell
development
pressure,
those
types
of
things
or
an
elderly
landowner
that
might
make
it
more
a
possibility
to
do
this.
This
easement,
where
we
wouldn't
have
the
time
to
to
wait
around
on
Grant
funds,
so
once
we've
met
at
least
two
of
these
criteria.
S
This
determines
that
this
project
is
eligible
for
County
bond
funds
for
easement
purchase
up
to
50
of
the
easement
value,
so
that
just
means
they're
eligible
doesn't
mean
they're
approved.
So
then
we
we
have
to
start
that
evaluation
process
that
I
mentioned
on
the
previous
slide.
So
that
would
still
mean
that
the
board
evaluates
each
project
individually.
They
visit
the
site
and
eventually
vote
to
move
forward
with
a
project
and
then
bring
it
to
the
Commissioners
for
final
approval.
S
So
similarly,
this
is
the
system
proposed
from
the
lcab
board.
This
is
the
current
system
that
they
are
using
and
the
land
conservation,
Advisory
Board,
just
as
a
reminder
is
funding
land,
land,
trust
easements,
and
they
have
a
variety
of
of
focus,
Wildlife,
biological
values,
water
quality
and
more
so
first,
we
evaluate
the
land
trust
partner
themselves
have
do
they
have
a
good
organization
track
record?
Have
they
upheld
the
county
investment
of
other
projects
over
the
years?
S
You
know
project
completion
in
the
past
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
we
look
at
the
conservation
value
of
each
project,
so
we're
looking
at
view
shed
protection,
natural
areas,
water
quality,
they
also
look
at
Farmland
preservation
and
other
resource
protection.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
the
similar
ranking
system
that
we
are
currently
using
with
lcap
and
then,
specifically
with
how
the
bond
funds
could
be
used.
They
also
need
to
meet
at
least
two
of
these
criteria.
S
There
are
some
similar
criteria
for
the
AG
Advisory
board,
but
this
is
specific
to
lcab.
Is
it
within
an
lcab
priority
region
is?
Does
it
have
significant
environmental
or
Scenic
importance?
Does
it
have
a
potential
Recreation
opportunity
or
water
quality
or
open
space
benefits
and
then
also?
Is
it
a
time-sensitive
project?
So
if
that
is
the
case,
then
they
would
be
eligible
for
at
least
25
to
50
percent
of
easement
value
funding,
but
they
would
still
have
to
start
that
lcab
project
approval
process
and
follow
that
ranking
system.
S
So
each
each
product
project
is
still
ranked
individually,
so
we're
making
sure
we
have
high
quality
projects,
and
so
then
the
lcab
board
would
still
have
to
vote
on
the
project
and,
if
approved,
that
would
then
come
to
the
Commissioners
for
final
approval
and
a
budget
request.
J
It's
been
a
very
thorough
and
thoughtful
deliberations
around
this
because
they
really
wanted
to,
even
though
they
had
this
other
criteria
and
a
really
solid
program,
they
wanted
to
ensure,
with
the
bond
process,
that
they're
prioritizing
projects
for
that
with
those
bond
funds
to
ensure
transparency
and
to
also
make
sure
we're
having
very
effective
and
impactful
use
of
these
public
funds.
So
thank
you
to
staff
and
all
those
volunteers
for
the
time
they've
put
into
that.
B
Hey
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions,
so
these
are
again.
These
are.
These
are
criteria
that
sort
of
have
existed
for
a
while,
though
right
that
they've
been
using
to
evaluate
projects,
for
you
know
for
many
years
now
right
so
I
guess
just
you
know
the
and
I
think
you
know.
A
lot
of
this
makes
great
sense
and
great
sounds
like
a
great
process.
I
guess
the
a
couple
of
questions.
One
is,
you
know
with
all
the
bond
funds
that
we've
the
voters
have
approved.
B
Obviously
we
want
them
to
to
create
the
maximum
potential.
You
know
benefit
right,
like
we've
set
these
goals,
and
even
though
this
is
a
lot
of
money
in
the
big
scheme
of
things,
it's
not
that
much
money,
so
we
so
I
guess
one
of
my
questions
would
be
in
sort
of
for
both
of
them.
I
see
under
the
lcab
project
evaluation
criteria.
There
is
a
funding
leverage
component,
you
get
I
guess
up
to
15
points
if
you're
leveraging
a
lot,
but
there
isn't
for
the
AG.
Advisory
Board
am
I.
B
Reading
that,
right
or
because
I
mean
you
know,
let's
just
say,
there's
two
hypothetically
two
identical
projects
right
like
identically
like
they
score
the
same
right,
so
they're
from
a
public
interest
standpoint
there
they're
both
really
good,
but
if
in
one
of
them
let's
say
the
property
owners
like
well
I
I,
just
you
know,
I'm
willing
to
donate
more
of
my
development
rights
right
or
maybe
there's
some
grant
that
would
come
in
so
that
the
County's
portion
would
be
much
less
right,
so
you
so
maybe
just
it
would
cost
the
county
half
as
much
funding
to
protect
one
project
and
the
other
they're,
otherwise,
equally
beneficial,
you
know
I
would
say
like
I'd
like
you
know,
we
only
have
this
much
money.
B
B
Some
additional
criteria
around
I
mean
in
some
ways,
I
think
these
criteria
all
sound,
make
a
lot
of
sense
for
how
we've
been
doing
it
in
the
past,
where
the
counties
investment
levels
have
been,
you
know
really
very
modest
right,
so
we're
not
kind
of
are
the
amount
we're
putting
in
was
never
that
much,
but
now
that
we've
got
voter
approved
bonds
like
our
our
investment
levels,
could
be
much
more
significant
right
and
therefore
the
kind
of
the
cost
Effectiveness
aspect
to
it
seems
like.
Maybe
it
gets
a
dish,
it
should
get
additional
weight.
S
The
fine
the
fun
has
is
that
our
AG
Advisory
Board
is
just
that
county-led
Farmland
preservation
program.
So
we
have
the
leverage
of
the
landowner
donation
for
a
project,
and
sometimes
we
maybe
would
get
partial
Bond
I
mean
partial
Grant
funds,
but
we
don't
have
access
to
private
donations
or
philanthropic.
S
You
know
funding
like
a
local
Land
Trust
would
so
sometimes
they
are
able
to
leverage
a
bit
more
of
funding
than
our
County
program,
just
because
the
county
program
is
mostly
funded
by
the
county,
but
I
I
will
say
all
easement
projects
always
have
at
least
a
25
Don,
25
donation
of
value
from
the
landowner
and
most
of
the
time
it's
at
least
50
percent
from
our
projects.
But
so
it's
kind
of
hard
to
compare
both
boards,
because.
S
B
So
because
they
are,
they
are
similar
but
unique,
so
let's
say
on
AG
Advisory
board.
So
this
is
really.
These
are
projects
where
a
landowner
I
want
to
voluntarily
protect
this
property
for
the
future
I'm
willing
to
donate
some
of
my
development,
the
market
value
of
the
development
rights
to
do
a
conservation
easement,
which
is
great
that
anyone
would
be
willing
to
do
that.
B
B
Now
that
there
are
more
financial
resources
at
play
here,
I
mean
the
the
pipeline
of
potential
projects
might
grow
substantially.
Now
that
it's
like
well
Luke,
you
actually
could
get
paid
for
a
very
high
percentage
of
your
development
value.
Development
values
in
our
community
are
through
the
roof
right,
so
I,
don't
know
I,
guess
I'm,
just
thinking
like.
Maybe
there
should
be
some
additional
weight
here,
because
if
one
person's
willing
to
donate
75
percent
of
their
development
value
and
someone
else
is
like
I-
want
the
maximum
amount
of
compensation,
then
you
know
I.
B
B
J
What
are
your
thoughts,
yes,
that
was
discussed
in
the
AG
advisory
and
I?
Think
if
you
I'm
not
sure
if
Ariel
went
over
this
when
she
did
the
presentation
but
there's
a
flow
chart
there,
that
kind
of
looks
at
easement
funding
and
that
is
around
the
AG
Advisory
Board.
Is
that
on
your
presentation?
Yes,
okay!
Yeah!
If
you
look
at
that,
chair
I
think
it
IT
addresses
some
of
what
you're
talking
about,
because
then
there's
there's
a
there's.
That
kind
of
prioritization
show.
S
S
I
can't
resume
it
but
explain
once
a
project
is
ranked
we
determine
where
the
funding
source
is
coming
from,
and
so
in
this
kind
of
process
we
are
trying
to
Max
or
well
we're
trying
to
maximize
our
leveraged
opportunities.
So
we're
saying:
okay:
does
it
need
funding
easement
funding,
yes
or
no?
If
it's
a
donation
easement
it
pretty
much
bypasses
the
the
rest
of
the
funding
discussion
and
it
goes
straight
to
the
board
for
their
review.
S
If
it
does
need
funding,
we
first
always
explore
grant
funding
opportunities
and
make
sure
that
that
we're
putting
the
best
possible
projects
towards
the
towards
the
grant,
so
we
maximize
our
chance
of
getting
them
funded
and
to
so
for
specifically
for
this
board.
There
are
just
two
grants
that
we
apply
for
one
is
a
federal
and
one
is
a
state
and
each
have
limited
funds
as
well
as
caps
on
the
amount
of
applications
an
entity
can
submit.
S
So
typically,
we
try
to
put
the
best
for
forward
every
year
and
then,
if,
if
you
know,
there's
projects
still
want
to
to
move
forward
at
that
point,
we
would
have
explored
all
other
funding
potentials
and
be
able
to
move
forward
to
bond
funds,
so
we're
always
trying
to
make
sure
we're
leveraging
and-
and
that
is
it's
some
somewhat
captured
here.
A
B
Mean
if
we
can
get
a
grant
great,
but
in
terms
of
like
for
most
projects,
it
sounds
like
there's
not
grant
funding.
It's
really
a
question
of
like
how
much
a
property
owner
needs
to
be
compensated
for
their
development
rights
in
order
to
feel
you
know
like
this
is
a
wise
decision
for
them
and
their
family
to
make
so
I,
don't
know
it
just
seems
like
it
ought
to.
B
J
S
J
Had
we
had
lots
of
discussion
around
this,
so
it's
it's
a
great
Point.
What
what
you're
saying
is
within
the
bond
funds
is
just
to
add
another
kind
of
category
there
to
make
sure
that
that
is
part
of
that
discussion
and
the
ranking
that
those
projects
are
going
to
be
able
to
leverage
the
most,
whether
it's
a
donation
from
the
landowner
or
whether
it's
Grant
funds
that
that
is
an
additional
checkpoint
to
ensure
that
we
are
I.
B
Would
that's
that's
exactly
right.
I
mean
I
would
predict
that,
with
the
amount
of
funding
that
we
have,
the
voters
have
approved
that
there
will
be
over
this
period
of
time
like
there
will
be
more
projects
submitted
than
we
will
have
funds
to
allocate
to
right.
And
so,
if
that's
the
case,
then,
if
we
want
to
fund
as
many
projects
as
possible,
then
then,
because
if,
if
there's
a
let's
just
say,
there's
a
bunch
of
projects
where
property
owners
are
like
I'm
willing
to
do
it.
B
For
a
third
of
my
on
average,
like
on
for
a
third
of
my
development
rights
or
development
values,
and
then
we
would
fund
a
lot
more
projects
right
than
if
it
averages
out
more
like
around
50
percent
I.
Just
I
bet,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
support,
for
this
I
mean
we've
seen
some
so
many
Property
Owners
again
just
develop,
donate
all
their
development
rights
or
majority
of
them,
so
I
just
I'd
like
for
it
to
be
factored
in.
B
J
S
B
B
Else
on
this
point,
I
did
have
one
other
one,
but
anything
else.
On
kind
of
the
this
cut
this
leverage
aspect.
Okay,
so
I
guess
the
other.
The
other
question
I
would
I
would
raise
and
again
I
feel
like
this
is
kind
of
different.
Now
that
we've
got
these
voter
approved
bonds
than
the
way
we've
thought
about
this
stuff
in
the
past,
because
there's
more
money
to
be
invested
right,
as
opposed
to
the
shoestring
approach,
we've
kind
of
taken
to
a
lot
of
this
more
in
the
past,
which
is
great
and
so
on.
B
One
of
these
one
of
these,
so
so
part
of
the
criteria
is,
you
know,
looking
at
soil,
quality,
clustering
potential
and
part
of
us
also
looking
at
development
pressure
right,
but
of
course,
there's
development
pressure
to
varying
degrees.
All
over
Buncombe
County
and
you
know
in
Farmland,
can
be
taken
out
of
Farmland
by
projects
that
have
you
know
one
house
per
three
acres,
just
as
much
as
they
can
by
a
development
with
you
know
an
apartment
building
on
it.
B
Right
like
it,
doesn't
take
a
lot
of
development
to
convert
Farmland
to
to
residential
use
right.
So
I
guess,
but
when
we
were
going
through
the
whole
Bond
referendum
process,
you
know
when
we
also
passed
affordable,
housing,
bonds
too
right,
and
so
some
people
would
ask
us
well
like
how.
How
do
you
make
like?
On
the
one
hand,
you
want
to,
you
know:
support
affordable
housing.
On
the
other
hand,
you
want
to
protect
land
from
over
development
right.
B
So
how
are
you
going
to
reconcile
these
two
things
and
we
say
well
we're
going
to
try
to
take.
You
know
a
thoughtful
approach
to
all
of
this
from
a
land
use
standpoint
right
like
the
areas
that
of
most
of
these
conservation
funds
are
going
to
go
to
we're
going
to
be
working
to
protect.
You
know
the
really
viable
areas
in
our
County
that
have
a
lot
of
working
farms
in
the
clustering
and
all
that
I
think
speaks
to
that.
B
B
Would
I
would
like
to
kind
of
suggest
that
we
think
about
that
point
a
bit
more,
because
if
the
site
is
a
potentially
valuable
site
for
for
growth
or
especially
for
affordable
or
Workforce
housing,
then
you
know
we
wouldn't
want
to
steer
our
conservation
dollars
into
areas
where
actually
it's
it's
an
area
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
for
growth,
yeah,
absolutely
so,
and
proximity
to
Water
and
Sewer
is
definitely
one
of
those
main
criteria
for
sure
right.
S
Yes,
yeah,
and
so
specifically
with
the
AG
Advisory
Board
ranking
process
we've
we
just
redid
it
this
past
summer
with
quite
a
bit
of
research,
of
what
other
counties
and
other
you
know,
areas
around
the
nation
use
as
their
system
so
of
knee.
Our
our
Farmland
preservation
coordinator
completed
a
lot
of
that
research
and
work
and
I
just
didn't
know.
If
you
speak
to
the
specifically
the
development
pressure
section.
S
I
know
that
it
in
that
weighted
criteria,
it's
weighted,
the
lowest
I
believe,
so
it
really
doesn't
give
that
much
that
much
weight
to
it.
I
guess.
T
Development
pressure,
I
think
so
a
lot
of
our
grants.
We
try
to
weight
the
clustering
potential
and
soils
the
highest
because
those
a
lot
of
our
grants
and
other
counties
focus
on
those
aspects
of
conservation
easements.
But
a
lot
of
Grants
also
do
look
at
development
pressure,
and
so
we
wanted
to
still
give
opportunity
to
Some
Farms
that
are
in
more
urban
areas
or
urbanizing
areas.
Kind
of
on.
T
They're,
not
quite
in
like
the
city
of
Asheville
or
the
town
of
Montreat,
or
anything
like
that,
but
they're
still
close
to
some
developments
or
in
that
Urban
Fringe.
So
we
still
want
to
protect
and
give
those
types
of
projects
a
chance
and
and
account
for
for
protecting
those
and
starting
to
create
like
a
little
bit
of
a
boundary
of
protected
areas
in
or
like
a
buffer
into
rural
areas,
so
that
we
didn't
want
to
take
it
out
completely,
because
then
that
would
affect
ranking
for
grant
funding
as
well.
Do.
B
You
do
you
have
to
specifically
say
proximity
to
Water
and
Sewer,
like
that's
in
a
way,
that's
kind
of,
like
maybe
the
terminology
that
would
raise
the
most
concerns,
because
it's
literally
the
terminology
we
use
to
like
cite
good
projects.
On
the
other
hand,
so
they
just
seem,
like
you
know,
I
mean
certainly
assessing
if
there's
property,
that
really
is
not
under
any
realistic
development
threat,
then
yeah
I
understand
like
hey,
let's
focus
on
some
other
things,
but
because
it's
it's
the
proximity
to
Water
and
Sewer
that
allows
some
higher
density
developments.
B
J
So
do
you
know
what
is
required
from
the
grant
perspective?
I
know
you
use
that
language
because
of
the
grants
very
specifically,
and
just
so
you
know
it's
not
I
know.
It
looks
like
a
lot
when
it
says
100
points,
but
it's
because
they're
doing
a
percentage
which
actually
it's
it's
a
it's
a
small
part
of
that
ranking
because
it's
it's
like
the
prom
Souls
I
think
is
the
largest
percentage,
whereas
that
is
what
was
it.
You
said
10
or
less
that
whole.
S
Ends
up
but.
S
Okay
and-
and
we
definitely
created
we
have
you-
know
these
Focus
areas
of
conservation
and
worked
very
closely
with
the
the
planning
department
through
the
comprehensive
plan
process
to
make
sure
we
weren't,
you
know
conflicting
with
the
priorities
of
development
versus
conservation.
But
yes,
we
can
definitely
address
that
question.
Yeah.
S
But
there
is
a
significant
waiting
in
in
both
of
the
grant
grants
that
we
apply
for
for
development
pressure.
It's
like
they
want
you
in
that
sweet
spot.
They
don't
want
you
all
the
way
in
you
know
the
city,
but
they
also
prioritize
books
that
are
on
the
edge,
so
yeah
yeah.
B
You
know
highest
priority
goals,
so
I
mean
personally
I'd
like
to
actually
defer
voting
on
this,
to
just
put
a
bit
more
thought
into
this
and
I
don't
know
where
to
land,
but
I
would
I'd
just
like
to
take
a
little
more
time
and
I.
Think
people
really
like
I
mean
people
got
to
ask
that
question
a
lot
of
like
how
are
you
going
to
make
sure
these
two
programs,
like
don't
run
across
purposes
I,
just
I'd
like
to
think
about
it,
a
bit
more
Terry?
What
are
your
thoughts
or
other
commissioners.
O
B
M
B
Okay,
great
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
These
I
appreciate
y'all,
allowing
me
to
kind
of
raise
those
questions,
so
any
other
comments
or
feedback
at
this
time
on
the
criteria:
okay,
all
right
and
I
and
I
they
are
great.
Those
were
the
only
two
parts.
I
want
to
do.
Thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much,
all
right,
Commissioners.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
resolution
requesting
quiet
Zone
at
private
rail
Crossing.
U
Members
of
the
board
of
commission
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
the
legal
department.
My
name
is
Kurt
Euler.
A
group
of
four
Hotel
owners
who,
on
Tunnel
Road
in
East
Asheville
near
Exit
55,
which
is
off
Interstate
40,
are
asking
the
County
Commissioners
to
adopt
a
resolution
requesting
Norfolk
Southern
to
establish
a
quiet
Zone
regarding
Crossing.
U
95131D
is
the
photo
is:
is
the
photograph
available
that
we
can
put
up
and
show?
As
you
can
see,
this
is
a
a
private
Crossing
that
serves
a
limited
number
of
parcels.
A
billboard
sewing
and
an
MSD
easement
North
folk
southern
was
notified
of
msd's
use
of
this
Crossing
and
in
2019
per
Federal
Railroad
Administration
guidelines
started
blowing
their
train
horns
this
these
this
Crossing
is
close
to
the
hotels
and,
as
you
can
guess,
has
caused
some
conflicts
with
people
staying
at
the
hotel.
U
Some
things
to
remember
about
this
request.
This
is
not
committing
the
county
to
pay
any
County
money
and
also
MSD
does
not
have
an
objection
to
this
request
as
long
as
their
right
of
access
is
preserved,
so
they
have
a
right-of-way
to
use
this
access,
so
they
could
get
at
their
MSD
lines
on
the
other
side.
So
really
what
the
hotel
owners
are
asking
for.
O
U
In
order
to
get
a
quiet
Zone,
the
local
government
has
to
put
in
a
request
and
be
in
support
of
establishing
the
quiet
zone
right.
So
all
you're
being
asked
tonight
to
do
is
basically
to
establish
that
you
support
the
further
application
of
The
Quiet
Zone,
there's
a
lot
of
other
processes
that
will
have
to
take
place
before
it's
established.
B
W
Good
evening,
commissioners,
good
evening
second
time
today,
all
right
so
we're
here
today
talk
about
the
911,
Center
and
kind
of
give
you
a
situational
review
and
speak
to
some
recommendations.
We
have
for
addressing
that
situation,
so
we'll
talk
about
what
is
going
on
right
now
and
then
we'll
talk
about
kind
of
short-term
and
long-term
strategies
for
how
to
address
what's
going
on
in
911
Center.
W
W
Currently,
everyone
except
the
director
in
the
911
Center
has
been
redeployed
to
work
full-time
as
a
telecommunicator
that
includes
all
managers,
all
trainers
and
quality
assurance
staff.
So
everyone
is
working
on
the
floor
currently
full-time.
W
The
First
Responders
from
our
local
agencies
are
an
incredible
asset.
We
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
what
we're
doing
right
now
without
them
and
we're
incredibly
grateful
for
them.
But
the
reality
is
911
telecommunicators
they're
trained
professionals
who
are
certified
to
do
a
specific
job
and
the
First
Responders
we
have
in
there
will
train
them
to
the
best
of
our
ability,
but
they're
not
trained
and
certified
to
the
level
of
our
own
staff.
So
they
are
limited
in
the
tasks
they're
able
to
perform
within
the
911
Center.
W
We
have
a
lack
of
dedicated
supervision
and
training
going
on
in
the
center,
because
everyone's
working
on
the
floor,
so
we
have
individuals
who
are
working
there
independently
answering
calls
and
doing
dispatch
who
normally
would
still
be
in
a
training
program
but
to
meet
staffing
needs.
We
have
released
them
onto
the
floor
earlier
than
normal,
so
the
current
to
run
a
911
Center
you're
supposed
to
be
able
to
have
67
of
the
slots
within
each
individual
shift
staffed.
That's
the
minimum
Staffing
requirement.
W
W
So
that
is
the
challenge
we're
having
so
we're
dependent
on
The
Surge
Staffing
that
assistance
from
our
First
Responders
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
go.
We
look
at
the
call
volume.
This
is
a
really
telling
slide
we're
the
eighth
largest
county
in
North
Carolina
for
some
context,
but
we
have
the
sixth
highest
911
call
volume
in
the
state,
and
we
have
the
fifth
highest
call
volume
to
our
non-emergency
line
or
administrative
line,
and
the
ministry
of
line
is
60
of
the
call
volume
into
the
911
Center.
W
So
when
I
look
at
a
911,
Center
I,
look
at
three
performance,
metrics
right,
the
first
performance
metric
is:
how
quickly
do
they?
How
long
does
it
take
them?
To
answer
a
call?
The
state
standard
is
ninety
percent.
A
call
should
be
answered
within
10
seconds
since
covet
started.
The
911
Center
has
been
really
bumping
around
between
88
and
92
percent,
so
it's
we're
not
always
able
to
meet
that
standard
of
answering
calls
quickly
enough.
The
second
thing
I
look
at
is
once
the
call
is
answered.
W
W
If
you
look
at
the
numbers
and
you
drive
dive
in
a
little
deeper
during
the
day
shift
during
the
day
where
we
have
the
highest
volume
of
calls,
there
are
two
factors
resulting
at
dispatch
time.
Factor
number
one
is,
as
you
heard
earlier
today,
and
at
the
budget
work
session
recently
due
to
our
the
number
of
ambulances.
We
have.
We
have
time
so
we
do
not
have
available
ambulances
to
dispatch,
so
calls
are
waiting
to
be
dispatched,
but
the
second
factor
is
Staffing
at
night,
though,
when
we
have
half
the
call
volume.
W
The
challenge
that
we're
struggling
is
our
response.
Our
dispatch
times
are
actually
slower
at
night,
but
we
have
enough
ambulances.
At
night
we
have
half
the
call
volume.
What
is
going
on
is
we
don't
have
First
Responders
in
the
center
at
the
same
levels
and
we
have
less
staff
working
in
the
center
at
night.
So
it's
much
more
difficult
for
them
to
process
the
calls
in
a
timely
manner.
The
third
metric
we
look
at
is
our
error
rate.
How
often
are
mistakes
being
made
in
the
processing
and
dispatching
your
calls?
At
this
point?
W
W
So
the
overall
challenges
that
we're
looking
at
when
we
look
at
the
911
Center
one
is
vacancies
and
high
turnover
within
the
911
Center
over
the
last
couple
years.
They're
putting
us
in
this
situation
an
imbalance,
a
volume
of
calls
to
staff
capacity
within
the
911
center
right.
Just
the
sheer
volume
of
calls
is
a
challenge:
our
dependents
on
local
agencies,
who
are
incredibly
grateful
for,
but
at
some
point
they
are
going
to
bring
their
First
Responders
back
in
in
technology
and
facility
challenges.
W
So
as
we
look
from
go
from
what
are
the
challenges
to
what
are
the
solutions
and
strategies
that
we
want
to
undertake?
The
first
one
we
want
to
look
at
is
the
stipend
pay
recommendation.
Our
recommendation
is
for
telecommunicators,
so
911
center
staff
who've
been
on
the
job
for
at
least
six
months.
That's
when
someone
is
fully
trained
and
fully
independent,
we've
been
there
for
six
months
would
receive
a
stipend
for
each
regularly
worked
shift
as
listed
in
the
on
the
chart.
W
So
if
they
work
the
day
shift
Monday
through
Friday,
they
would
receive
an
extra
eight
dollars
an
hour
and
on
Saturday
and
Sunday.
They
would
receive
an
additional
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
for
folks
working
the
night
shift
during
the
week.
They
would
achieve
an
additional
12
dollars
an
hour
and
on
the
weekends
they
would
receive
an
additional
twenty
dollars
an
hour.
W
This
would
continue
until
we've
been
able
to
sustain
that
67
Staffing
level
for
three
months,
utilizing
only
911
center
staff,
so
essentially
being
able
to
run
the
911
center
staff
Center,
the
minimum
Staffing
levels
with
just
our
staff
for
three
months.
The
total
cost
per
pay
period
is
around
forty
nine
thousand
dollars,
but
we'll
be
funding
this
for
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year
using
lapse
salary.
So
there
is
no
budget
amendment
associated
with
this
request.
W
But
this
is
not
the
only
strategy
to
undertaking
so
looking
at
other
short-term
strategies.
One
is
the
reduction
of
non-911
call
volume
I
mentioned.
Sixty
percent
of
calls
come
into
the
administrative
line
and
the
reality
is
the
vast
majority
of
those
calls
are
not
actually
processed
in
the
911
Center.
Someone
calls
the
911
Center.
The
administrative
line
is
answered.
W
They
understand
what
the
person
wants
and
then
that
person's
immediately
transferred
to
another
agency,
so
we're
trying
to
determine
abilities
to
directly
send
calls
elsewhere
and
reduce
some
of
those
calls
we're
implementing
an
automated
alarm
dispatch
system
which
will
reduce
the
significantly
the
amount
of
calls
for
residential
Burke
early
alarms.
So,
instead
of
necessitating
a
9-1-1
call,
the
alarm
system
will
talk
directly
to
our
dispatchers
and
get
dispatched
down
quicker,
so
improve
service
to
the
community
and
reduction
in
call
volume,
we're
bringing
on
contracted
support
for
call
taking
training,
Recruitment
and
quality
assurance.
W
Additionally,
we
are
providing
significant
operational
and
management
support
to
the
911
center
from
other
County
departments,
and
we
are
beefing
up
staff
recruitment
in
the
center
to
try
to
bring
in
new
individuals
as
we
pivot
for
long-term
strategies.
We
are
looking
at
technology
and
facility
improvements.
These
individuals
are
working
the
call
in
the
911
Center
12
hours
a
day.
These
are
long
shifts.
We
want
to
make
sure
the
center
is
an
attractive
Center
to
attract
a
good
Workforce.
We
want
to
make
improvements
to
Center
processes
and
policies.
We
want
to
sustain
or
continue
recruitment
push.
P
W
In
the
world
we're
working,
we
we're
actively
working
on
executing
contracts
on
that.
Okay,
so
yeah
I
try
to
make
sure
I
only
brought
strategies
to
you
all
tonight.
There
are
strategies
that
I
feel
confident
will
be
able
to
implement
good
yeah.
X
Just
briefly
want
to
express
appreciation,
and
it
feels
like
one
one
theme
for
this
day
is
that
with
we
have
to
be
thinking
about
all
these
systems
holistically,
certainly
and
I'm.
X
Certainly
thinking
about
analysis,
Taylor
Jones
shared
with
us
in
our
briefing
about
the
overall
EMS
system
and
how
that
intersects
with
9-1-1
and
again
it
just
feels
like
that's
sort
of
a
compounding
Point,
that's
being
driven
home,
particularly
as
we
kind
of
really
take
these
deeper
dives
into
our
work,
at
the
intersections
of
Public,
Safety
and
and
and
what
it
means
to
actually
staff
and
expand
operations
against
the
backdrop
of
community
needs.
So
I
won't
go
too
much
further
down
that
rabbit
hole
but
it.
X
But
it
feels
like
there's
sort
of
Echoes
happening
in
one
conversation
after
another
that
we
really
have
to
be
prioritizing,
be
able
to
prioritize
multiple
things
at
once
and
also
make
sure
we're
tracking
the
connections
between
these
different
initiatives.
As
we
move
forward
so
I
know
a
great
deal
of
hard
work
has
gone
into
this
across
multiple
departments
and
look
forward
to
hearing
updates
as
it
moves
forward.
Q
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
services
that
people
don't
think
about
until
they
need
to
call
9-1-1,
and
it's
a
service,
of
course,
that
we
we
have
to
provide
and,
as
a
result,
I
think
we
we
have
to
provide
the
Staffing
and
the
pay
that's
necessary
oftentimes.
As
we
know,
these
are
life
or
death.
Calls
and
folks
rely
on
us
and
our
incredible
staff
to
make
this
happen.
V
B
All
right,
this
motion
and
second
further
discussion,
I'll
just
link
one
comment:
the
I
think
all
the
recommendations
are
are
good
and
and
and
but
in
particular,
I
mean
I.
Think
we
will
really
need
to
look
at
the
base.
Pay
I
mean
doing
these
things
to
kind
of
manage.
The
situation
in
the
short
term
is
good,
but
I
think
we
really
want
to
think
about
like.
B
What's
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
attract
and
retain
people
long
term
Beyond
getting
through
the
the
near-term
needs
to
you
know,
keep
it
staffed
well
and
I
think
this
ended.
Just
like
some
of
the
other
conversations
we
had
earlier
today,
I
mean
this
has
always
been
an
important
job,
but
we're
just
we're
kind
of
in
a
different
era.
Now,
just
as
a
community
and
some
of
the
different
issues
that
teams
like
9-1-1
are
responding
to
so
I
think
we
just
have
to
recognize
like
it's
never
been
an
easy
job.
B
It's
probably
tougher
now
than
it's
ever
been,
and
that's
gonna.
It's
gonna
be
that
way.
So
we
gotta
we
got
to
appropriately
value
that
long
term.
So,
thanks
for
all
the
great
work
putting
this
together,
thank
you.
Any
other
feedback,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye,
all
right,
thanks,
Rafael
any
post.
Great
all
right
next
up
is
approval
of
homelessness
response,
regular
full-time
position.
Y
Out,
thank
you
good
afternoon.
Everyone
I'll
be
brief,
as
y'all
are
aware
of
the
national
Lion's.
Den
homelessness
was
engaged
by
the
city
of
Asheville,
in
partnership
with
Buncombe
County,
with
funding
support
from
the
Dogwood
Health
Trust
and
to
identify,
needs
and
develop
a
report
containing
recommendations
to
guide
homelessness
work
within
the
county.
The
request
itself
is
to
establish
one
new,
regular
full-time
position.
This
is
a
program
manager
is
the
exact
title
as
part
of
the
coordinated
response
to
homelessness,
and
this
was
identified
in
the
report
itself.
Y
A
X
Front
of
us
I
wondered
if
y'all
could,
at
the
staff
level,
could
share
any
thoughts
on
how
being
situated
within
planning
will
will
or
how
this
position
will
interact
with
and
intersect
with,
say,
behavioral
health
or
some
of
the
other
related
issues
and
and
if
that's
something
that's
maybe
in
development,
it's
also
fine
to
come
back
later
with
that.
But
would
just
love
to
hear
any
early
thinking
on
that
sure.
Y
I'd
be
happy
to
provide
you
with
a
couple
of
key
points.
Community
Development
does
sort
of
serve
as
the
central
point
for
housing
needs
in
the
county.
Community
Development
coordinates
regularly
with
other
departments,
including
Health
and
Human
Services
on
related
items,
programming
and
projects
and
Community
Development
meets
regularly
with
the
City's
community
developments,
Services
Department
staff
to
coordinate
activities
and
programs,
and
this
collaborative
would
be
further
strengthened
by
this
position.
B
Z
Good
evening,
Commissioners
here
this
evening,
to
talk
about
McCormick
field,
got
a
few
slides
that
we'll
run
through
today,
but
also
wanted
to
recognize
in
the
audience.
Today
we
have
Brian
dewine
with
us.
Y'all
know
Brian,
but
Brian's
available.
If
there's
any
specific
questions,
so
y'all
want
to
touch
on
about
lease
points
or
things
like
that.
Z
Brian
gets
to
answer
the
tough
ones
so
in
terms
of
background
and
request
you
all
have
heard
this
before,
but
for
the
benefit
of
the
public,
the
city
of
Asheville
is
pursuing
the
renovation
and
enhancement
of
McCormick
field,
which
is
a
city
owned
property.
The
primary
reason
for
this
is
to
meet
a
Major
League
Baseball
mandates,
but
also
to
provide
additional
Community
benefits.
Z
City
of
Asheville
has
reached
out
to
a
number
of
entities,
including
Asheville
Tourists,
the
TDA
and
Buncombe
County
government,
to
provide
additional
support
to
bring
this
to
reality.
The
commission
has
reviewed
this
item
on
multiple
occasions.
First
instance
was
at
the
budget
retreat
in
December
of
2022..
Z
Additionally,
we
brought
this
before
you
on
March
7th,
at
the
briefing
since
then,
a
city
of
Asheville
city
council
has
taken
this
item
up
and
approved
on
March
14th,
a
financial
plan
to
move
forward
for
April
1st.
That
approval
was
to
meet
Major,
League
Baseball
requirements,
and
we've
got
a
financial
plan
that
we
can
share
with
you
today.
To
give
you
a
sense
of
what
that
looked
like
our
ask
of
the
board.
Today
is
really
of
guidance.
Z
You
know.
Buncombe
County
staff
have
presented
information
to
you,
but
would
like
your
feedback
today
in
terms
of
your
willingness
to
financially
partner
with
the
city
of
Asheville
on
this
project
and
if
willing
to
financially
partner,
would
like
a
sense
of
what
level
is
that
financially?
So
a
two-part
question.
Z
Z
The
leanings,
as
we
understand
them
at
this
point,
are
towards
the
full
project,
which
is
the
slide
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
and
so
that's
a
project
of
about
37.5
million
dollars.
But
when
you
factor
in
interest
from
the
debt
a
project
closer
to
56
billion
dollars
in
this
model,
we
see
the
city
of
Asheville
contributing
right
under
a
million
dollars
for
20
years
you
see
the
club
or
the
Asheville
tourist
team
averaging
about
468
over
that
same
20-year
period.
Z
In
our
last
discussions
we
talked
about
how
that
those
payments
would
be
structured
and
it
is
a
fixed,
determined
structure.
So
the
tourists
have
a
specific
payment
that
they
make
on
an
annual
basis
for
those
20
years.
You
can
see
the
county
here
at
five
million
dollars
over
the
20-year
period,
so
that's
about
250k
per
year
Additionally.
You
can
see
the
contributions
of
the
tea
at
about
1.4
million
dollars
over
a
15-year
period,
putting
them
at
about
21
million
dollars
or
41
of
the
project.
Z
Those
are
the
the
current
scenarios
that
we've
discussed
would
like
your
feedback,
obviously,
today
on
the
County's
contribution,
if
any
to
this
project.
A
final
note
before
I
open
it
up
for
y'all's
discussion,
I
just
wanted
to
revisit
some
of
the
frequent
questions
that
we
walked
through
last
time.
Some
of
these
are
pretty
standard,
but
I'll
State
them
again
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
So
what
are
the
assurances
that
the
team
will
stay?
Z
This
is
probably
the
number
one
question
that
we
get
so
the
the
tourists
the
team
intends
to
sign
a
lease
of
a
minimum
of
20
years.
I
think
they
have
a
willingness
to
go
further
than
that.
They
haven't
signed
the
lease
today,
but
that
in
essence
keeps
the
team
required
to
make
a
lease
payment
that
averages
468
000
over
the
20-year
period
Additionally
the
Houston
Astros,
which
are
you
know,
the
the
major
league
team.
Z
They
will
be
here
through
2030,
based
on
the
agreement
that
Major
League
Baseball
has,
with
all
minor
league
teams,
not
just
ours.
The
current
franchise
agreement
extends
through
2030,
and
so
we
would
expect
that
to
continue
for
all
major
league,
all
minor
league
baseball
teams,
including
ours
after
2030
candidly,
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
Z
Next
question
we
always
get.
Is
you
know,
sale
and
relocation
of
the
team?
So
how
do
we
prevent
the
sale
and
relocation
of
team,
in
particular
after
investing
public
funds,
into
a
project
like
this?
Z
So
first
off?
This
is
straight
from
Major,
League
Baseball,
any
any
sale.
The
team
must
be
approved
by
Major
League
Baseball.
This
isn't
a
unilateral
decision
that
the
Asheville
Tourists
can
make
the
minor
league
team.
They
would
need
to
seek
some
approval
from
Major
League
Baseball.
Those
decisions-
Major
League
Baseball
shared
with
us,
are
really
based
on
facility
standards,
first
and
foremost,
but
also
markets.
Major
League
Baseball
has
an
interest
in
being
in
certain
markets
and
we
believe
that
ours
is
of
interest
to
them,
as
it
always
has
been.
Z
A
final
note
on
this
Major
League
Baseball
recommends
some
type
of
no
relocation
Clause
installed
into
the
lease,
and
so
that's
something
I
think
we
should
pursue
with
our
partners
at
details
of
the
lease
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
the
nitty-gritty.
If
you
have
questions,
I'm,
definitely
going
to
rely
on
Brian
But,
the
lease
amount,
it's
a
fixed
payment
schedule
that
averages
that
468k
per
year,
the
Lee
c.
This
was
a
question
last
time
we
spoke.
Z
There
are
two
entities
that
are
proposed
here,
the
first
the
leasee
is
dewine
silver
dollar
baseball,
LLC
and
then
the
grantor
is
a
dewine
Enterprises,
Incorporated
and
I
can't
speak
to
the
history
of
either
of
these
organizations.
But
if
you'd
like
to
hear
from
Brian
today,
I'm
glad
to
bring
him
up
here,
a
few
other
key
points
that
I'd
like
to
hit
on
the
lease,
as
currently
devise,
has
guaranteed
or
defined
Capital
Improvements,
to
be
made
by
the
city
and
the
team
on
a
regular
schedule.
Z
The
last
I
checked
those
are
at
year,
seven
and
year
14
to
make
sure
that
we're
maintaining
the
facility
over
time
and
preventing
extensive
deferred
maintenance
Additionally.
The
team
gets
naming
rights
for
the
facility,
but
there's
also
a
defined
public
use
schedule.
So
how
will
the
facility
be
used
by
the
public?
There's
some
structure
built
in
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
certain
number
of
days,
a
certain
number
of
events,
things
of
that
nature,
that
the
team
will
be
responsible
for
final
note
here:
public
Person,
Public
purpose:
how
might
this
facility
be
used?
Z
Z
Z
Z
If
things
are
moving
along
based
on
County
Commission
support,
Next
Step
would
be
presentations
to
the
TDA
through
their
product
development
life
cycle,
anticipate
that
would
happen
in
late
April,
with
reviews
happening
in
May
and
June
and,
ultimately,
a
decision
sometime
after
then
the
request
again
of
the
board,
it's
twofold,
which
I'd
like
to
know
from
you.
Are
you
interested
in
supporting
this
project
financially
and,
if
so,
at
what
level?
And
so
that's
my
presentation,
if
you
have
any
questions,
glad
to
take
them
also
glad
to
bring
someone
from
an
audience
up
if
necessary,
Tim.
Z
Q
Z
Absolutely
I'm
not
sure
I
have
much
to
add
to
that,
but
this
Matrix
does
exist
to
give
a
sense
of
who
pays
what
and
you're
exactly
right
the
Astros,
the
big
Club.
If
you
will,
you
know
they
basically
pay
the
labor
lodging
for
the
the
team,
the
players
as
well
as
coaches
umps,
things
of
that
nature.
The
tourists
basically
maintain
the
operations.
Z
So
the
you
know
the
when
you
show
up
at
a
game-
and
you
see
people
that
are
you
know,
running
concessions
or
you
know
doing
you
know,
games
and
you
know
reaching
out
to
the
crowd.
You
know
that's
the
team
baseball
Major
League
Baseball.
Rather
those
are
your
league
administrators,
your
umpire
salaries,
your
National
marketing
and
then.
Finally,
but
not
least,
you
know
the
the
city
of
Asheville
has
a
responsibility
here
for
facility
maintenance
and
on
a
100
plus
year
old
stadium.
That
is
an
ongoing
need
and
and
certainly
not
to
be
understated.
V
Z
Absolutely-
and
this
is
a
discussion
we've
had
with
our
partners
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
who
will
ultimately
have
the
debt.
You
know
this
is
their
project,
and
so
all
of
our
discussions
have
centered
on
how
do
you
reduce
the
long-term
cost
of
this
debt?
One
way
that
you
do,
that
is
by
paying
down
the
principal
similar
to
what
you
would
do
with
a
mortgage
so
that
you
ultimately
minimize
your
interest
long
term
I,
think
that's
something
that
the
city
is
certainly
open
to
and
something
that
we've
been
encouraging.
Z
So
one
other
note
on
on
the
state
side,
you
know
we're
we're
hopeful
that
we'll
see
some
support
in
this
in
this
budget
cycle
from
the
state.
That
is
something
that
has
not
been
determined
at
this
point,
but
we
have
seen
positive
items
in
the
governor's
proposed
budget,
so
we'll
see
where
that
lands.
V
Z
B
That's
the
one
of
the
questions
I
had
Tim
it's
kind
of
in
the
similar
kind
of
what,
if
this
happens.
So
there
are
these
cost
estimates
for
the
project
right.
There
is
a
fair
amount
of
contingency
built
into
those
cost
estimates
so,
which
is
you
know,
responsible
thing
to
do,
because
you
know
sometimes
you
you
find
things
come
in
higher
than
you
would
want
them
to
or
I
think
they're
likely
to
so
kind
of.
Like
commissioner
whiteside's
question
I
mean
kind
of
on
the
upside
scenarios
right
like
what?
B
If
what,
if
there's
not
a
lot
of
contingency
needed
right
like
there's
sort
of
the
cost
estimates
for
the
project
and
then
there's
contingency
things
that
might
cost
more
than
expected?
Well
what?
If?
What?
If
they
don't
so
is
there
because
I
mean
I'm
I'm
supportive
of
the
project.
B
I
want
the
county
to
be
a
partner
I,
don't
think
it's
fair
to
the
city
taxpayers
that
they
would
have
to
carry
this
all
on
their
shoulders
used
by
people
throughout
the
county
and
throughout
the
region,
so
I
think
I
think
the
county
should
be
there,
but
I
also
want
the
folks
working
on
this
project
to
figure
out
how
to
I
mean
mostly
what
I
hear
people
say
is
like
I
love
going
to
the
games.
I
love
it
it's
great.
B
Please
keep
it
I,
don't
hear
people
say
I'd
need
like
a
completely
fancy
new
stadium
right,
like
I,
think
they
mostly
want
to
kind
of
keep
what
we
have
what
people
have
loved
for
years.
So
I
want
to
structure
this
in
a
way
that,
like
so
that,
once
we
vote
on
it,
people
don't
feel
like
go,
spend
it
you've
got
you've,
got
this
money
just
spend
it.
You
know,
I
would
like
for
them
to
look
for
ways
to
not
need
to
spend
that
contingency
money
and
I'd,
like
you
know
to
like
advocate
for
this.
B
We're
advocating
for
the
state
to
come
in
here.
So
I
want
this
project
to
be
successful,
but
I
also
want
it
to
be
done
in
a
way.
That's
just
financially
responsible
to
the
city
and
county
taxpayers
as
possible
too.
So
are
there
any
thoughts
on
how
we
could
say,
here's
what
we
want
to
do,
but
you
know
don't
spend
that
contingency
funding
if
it's
not
truly
needed.
If
you
know,
if
there
are
things
that
come
in
on
budget,
that
does
still
happen.
B
Z
Sure
I
think
you
know
first
off
this
evening.
You
know
we're
asking
for
guidance
from
the
board.
You
know.
Are
you
interested
in
proceeding?
If
so,
at
what
level
I
think
fair
to
say
that
at
a
future
date,
you
know
we
would
need
to
bring
back
before
you
something
more
binding
in
the
form
of
a
resolution,
for
instance,
that
would
State
kind
of
what
your
criteria
are
as
a
board.
Z
What
what
makes
you
comfortable
here
I
think
there
could
be
items
such
as
a
commissioner
Whitesides
mentioned
I
think
possibly
having
additional
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
oversight,
but
involvement
on
on
the
project
team
to
understand
kind
of
what
the
expenses
are
and
I
think
those
are
items
that
could
be
considered
if
those
were
agreeable,
so
I
definitely
think
there's
ways
to
achieve
that.
Okay,
great.
J
AA
AA
The
city
is
actually
counting
on
it
and
if
the
city,
if
the
state
funding,
does
not
come
in,
then
they're
going
to
do
a
facility
tax
on
tickets
for
the
ballpark,
so
as
a
backup
plan
to
cover
that
Gap
funding.
If
the
state
funding
does
not
come
in,
there's
gonna
be
some
kind
of
facility
tax
that
will
kind
of
help
with
The
Gap.
So
that's
where
we
are,
as
far
as
you
know,
State
funding
coming
or
not
coming
is
that
there's
a
backup
plan
of
a
facility
tax.
AA
They've
got
kind
of
a
flows
chart
where
it's
all
right
this.
If
we
get
5
million
from
the
state,
then
we're
gonna
have
to
pay
this.
If
we
get
4
million
we're
going
to
pay
this
and
so
and
so,
and
if
we
get
nothing
from
the
state,
then
we're
gonna
have
a
gap,
and
at
that
point
then
we're
gonna
have
to
put
a
facility
tax
in
how
much.
AA
AA
AA
That
would
be
on
tickets,
it
would
equal
about
75
cents
per
ticket.
A
full
season
have
a
little
bit
less
since
you
didn't
have
a
massive
fee
on
it.
X
Z
So
the
the
state
piece
candidly
not
ironed
out
we're
envisioning.
It
would
be
a
grant
program
where
the
the
max
would
be
approximately
five
million
dollars
per
facility,
we'll
have
to
see
what
that
would
actually
shake
out
to
be.
What
we
do
know
is
there's
a
fixed
number
of
facilities,
and
so
all
of
these
facilities
are
dealing
with
similar
issues,
and
so
we
expect
that
pot
would
be
kind
of
evenly
shared
among
them.
So.
X
Z
And
it
is
not
actually
demonstrated
in
in
this
particular
slide,
the
that
financial
plan
is
not
based
on
including
State
funding.
Okay,
it's
here's
how
we
get
it
done
without
it.
A
Z
So
what
I
think
Brian
is
referring
to
is
what
I
would
Define
as
kind
of
the
backup
plan.
So
if
you
know
we've
got
our
core
plan,
which
is
here's,
how
you
would
get
there,
but
I
think
the
city
rightfully
and
other
entities
are
thinking
about.
How
do
we
reduce
that
amount?
Step
One
is
securing
State
funding.
If
that
doesn't
happen,
what
are
some
other
options
and
I
think
one
example
would
would
be
the
this
ticket
option
that.
O
V
Sounds
it.
AA
Will
be
about
75
75.
Excuse
me,
75
about
75
cents
per
ticket.
It
will
not
be
percent,
it
will
be
a
flat
rate.
We've
been
playing
with
the
numbers
again,
you
know,
honestly,
it's
a
something.
We
don't
really
want
to
do
because
you
know
we're
ten
dollar
tickets
and
so
that's
a
high
actually
tax,
and
so
it's
not
something
we
really
want
to
do.
But
it
is
a
backup
plan
in
case
the
state
money
does
not
come
in.
AA
B
It
would
be,
but
it
would
be
if
there
were,
how
long
does
the
model
show
you'd
have
to
keep
the
75
fee
in
place
in
order
to
make
up
for
the
state
funding
that
didn't
show
up
the
life
of
the
life
of
the
lease
okay,
it.
Q
V
B
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
and
second
to
approve
up
to
250
000
dollars
for
over
20
years,
so
maximum
investment
of
up
to
five
million
dollars
over
the
20-year
period.
O
B
We're
giving
direction
to
staff
this
is
not
a
definitive
agreement.
The
final
approval
of
this
would
be
reviewed
Again
by
the
County
Commission,
as
part
of
the
definitive
agreement.
Is
that
do
I?
Have
that
correct?
I
want
to
make
sure
good
question
like
from
a
process
standpoint.
This
is,
is
this
the
vote,
or
is
this
the
vote
in
preparation
for
a
formal
vote,
giving
the
direction
we
think
we're
going
to
go
down?
That's.
Z
M
B
B
You
know,
and
our
other
partners
to
you
know,
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
looking
at
this,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
going
to
make
this
long-term
Financial
commitment,
250
000
a
year
for
20
years
in
the
city
and
we're
all
city,
taxpayers
or
not
all
of
us-
but
like
many
you
know,
our
many
of
our
constituents
are
City
taxpayers
and
some
of
us
are
too
are
committing.
You
know
to
a
million
maybe
close
to
a
million
dollars
a
year
for
all
these
years.
B
Then,
and
of
course,
the
tourists
are
stepping
up
too,
that's
been
a
nominal
lease
payment
in
the
past,
but
now
it's
going
to
be
much
more
substantive,
but
I
think
it
is
very
important
that
we
have
that.
Our
that
the
taxpayers
can
feel
confident
that
the
tourists
as
a
business
organization
will
will
fulfill
their
obligations
under
the
lease
over
the
full
life
of
that
lease,
and
so
so
that
the
taxpayers
can
feel
confident.
I
would
want
to
see
that
there
is
a
credit
worthy
guarantor.
B
That
is
a
party
to
the
agreement.
I
understand
the
organizations
mentioned,
but
we
need
to
fully
understand.
B
You
know
how
credit
worthy
that
organization
is,
or
some
other
credit
Assurance
or
some
type
of
credit
Vehicles,
so
that
if
we
make
the
commitment
long-term
as
a
community
and
taxpayers
that
we're
confident
that
both
ends
of
the
the
arrangement
will
be
upheld
by
all
parties,
so
I
want
to
I
want
to
kind
of
get
into
the
details
of
that
a
little
bit
more
when
it
comes
back
to
us
other
questions.
Yes,
sir,
from.
Z
Z
And
so
in
this
slide
you
can
see
if
you
look
all
to
the
far
right
sort
of
our
second
row,
the
club.
You
can
see
it's
an
average
of
force
15
years,
so
the
first
five
years
there's
an
average
of
five
years
of
450k
and
then
an
additional
15
years
at
about
475k
and
that's
how
it
evens
out
and
that
that's
a
specific
schedule.
Yep.
B
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
nay,
all
right!
Well,
thanks
to
everyone
for
getting
it
to
this
point
and
appreciate
all
the
members
of
the
community
who
have
been
weighing
in
on
this,
this
topic
for
the
last
many
months,
so
thanks
Phil
for
being
engaged
appreciate
it
all
right.
B
L
Good
evening
this
is
budget
amendment
is
to
accept
the
award
of
a
Community
Development
block
grant
for
neighborhood
revitalization
in
the
amount
of
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
fund
home
repairs
for
low
and
moderate
income
homeowners.
This
funding
begins
April
1st
and
it
can
be
used
until
September,
30th
2025.
J
AB
Evening
Nancy
Williams,
with
Community
Development
I,
came
in
August
and
September
with
the
public
hearing
and
the
agreement
for
this
application.
The
400
thousand
dollars
will
go
to
our
local
non-profit
Partners,
to
assist
homeowners,
single-family
homeowners
with
repairs
and
the
hope
with
this
program
is
we
can
do
more
substantial
repairs
up
to
thirty
thousand
dollars
with
this
funding
and
the
hopes
of
doing
12
to
24
projects
over
the
two
years.
AB
B
B
J
B
A
B
Any
opposed,
okay,
sorry
jump
the
gun
there,
Mountain
Community
Capital
fund
operating
committee,
so
we've
got
Tim,
love
and
Rachel
Nygaard
serving
to
Commissioners.
We
do
have
a
policy
that
says
we
appoint
boards
and
commission
members
for
two
two
terms,
but
the
staff
have
asked
whether
we
can
consider
this
differently.
I
do
think
it's
different
I
mean
I
think
when
we
point
this
we're
normally
thinking
of
like
citizen
or
resident
boards
and
commission
members.
B
O
B
D
J
B
I,
don't
think
you
need
to
I
think
we've
had
a
conversation
about
it,
I
would
say
in
the
future.
You
know
we
do
have.
Staff
who
serve
on
other
boards
and
commissions
like
I,
can
remember
who's
on
it
right
now,
but
like
in
the
past,
like
MSD,
right
staff,
and
maybe
they
still
do
and
other
boards,
so
I
would
say
if
there's
staff
that
are
serving
in
a
role
you
know,
I
would
take
it
through
the
regular
process.
I
mean
in
this
case
it
does
just.
B
It
feels
right
to
me
that,
like
staff
should
just
do
this
job,
but
in
other
cases
you
know
it
might
be
that
we
want
to
do
a
resident
or
we
might
do
a
staff.
So
we
we
would
want
to
I
think
we'd
want
to
kind
of
kind
of
take
it
through
the
regular
process.
Even
though
like
in
this
case,
you
know
we're
just
going
to
keep
the
staff
doing
it
or
asking
the
staff
to
keep
doing
it.
So,
chairman.
B
All
in
favor
say
aye,
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right
and
last
congratulations.
Tim!
B
Thank
you
for
your
service
and
last
up
is
the
Mountain
Area
Workforce
Development
board.
It's
one
reappointment.
B
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right
great.
We
have
a
couple
of
announcements
to
make
on
April
4th
at
3
pm.
The
County
Commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200,
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville
and
then
on
April
4th
at
5
PM.
The
County
Commissioners
will
hold
their
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville.
U
U
M
Commissioner,
before
you
go
to
closed
session,
I
do
want
to
remind
you
that
there
is
a
budget
meeting
coming
up,
that
the
full
board
would
be
a
public
meeting
and
it
is
next
Tuesday
November
March
March
28th
at
11
30.
B
B
Okay,
thanks
for
the
reminder
all
in
oh,
is
there
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
yeah?
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say
I
I
any
opposed
all
right.
When
we
finish
the
closed
session,
we
will
not
take
any
action.
We'll
just
adjourn.