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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Briefing (August 2, 2022)
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Briefing for the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for August 2, 2022. The briefing is a chance for the commissioners to hear staffing updates and view the regular meeting agenda.
A
So
three
models
for
Sparks
Parks
operations
were
identified
through
the
project.
First
was
full
local
government
operation,
and
this
is
where
the
government
owns
operates,
maintains
and
schedules
the
sports
park,
incurring
all
the
expansion
expenditures
and
capturing
all
the
revenues.
A
Examples
of
this
include
Pearson,
County,
Mecklenburg,
County,
Rock,
Hill,
the
city
of
Durham
and
the
town
of
Cary,
so
they
all
operate
under
this.
This
model
Hybrid
models,
which
is
the
current
model
for
the
Buncombe
County
Sports
Park,
is
when
the
government
owns
the
park
and
handles
some
of
the
elements
of
operation
of
the
sports
park
while
having
another
entity.
Typically,
a
sports
League
maintain
the
rest
again.
These
examples
include
the
Buncombe
County
Sports
Park,
as
well
as
the
city
of
Greensboro,
also
operates
under
this
model.
A
The
third
and
final
model
is
nearly
fully
contracted
out.
We're
all
operational
and
maintenance
aspects
of
the
sports
park
are
contracted
out
to
a
vendor,
who
typically
incurs
the
expenses
and
captures
all
the
revenues,
and
an
example
of
this
is
the
city
of
Asheville
holds
this
this
model
with
them.
A
So
what
we
did
was
we
looked
at
the
fish,
Finance
fiscal
impacts
of
what
it
would
take
to
run
the
sports
park
in-house.
You
could
see
on
the
left
hand,
side
there,
we
have
our
maintenance
and
administrative
costs
and
what
our
projection
would
be
to
be
able
to
maintain
the
fields
to
the
current
level
of
service
and
through
those
listening
sessions.
A
We
did
get
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
about
the
current
conditions
of
the
field
that
they
are
really
good,
being
maintained
to
a
high
competitive
level,
and
so
in
order
to
maintain
that
same
level
of
sports
and
inability
of
play.
We'd
be
looking
at
two
full-time
Recreation
program:
coordinators,
foreground
staff,
three
part-time
Recreation,
Specialists
and
then,
of
course,
we
would
need
the
equipment
for
the
grass
fields
as
well
as
equipment
for
turf
fields.
A
So
you
could
see
that
the
first
year
costs,
if
we
were
to
bring
it
in
house,
is
seven
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars
with
that
the
reoccurring
annual
costs
after
purchasing
all
of
the
equipment
that
would
be
needed
to
maintain
the
grass
and
turf
fields,
would
wind
up
being
approximately
576
thousand
dollars
with
those
costs.
There's
an
estimated
field
Revenue
that
would
be
incurred
by
us.
A
We
would
be
gathering
that
Revenue
we're
projecting
that
Revenue
at
approximately
375
thousand
dollars
375
800,
and
that
would
be
based
on
the
numbers
that
you're
seeing
of
the
use
of
nine
fields.
We
anticipate
that
you
can
get
approximately
58
hours
a
week
per
field
and
the
current
contract
is
for
forty
dollars
per
two
hours.
So
if
we
went
with
that
rate
and
move
things
out
for
approximately
nine
months
of
possible
play
throughout
the
year
based
on
the
weather
here
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
it
comes
to
36
weeks.
A
It
gives
us
that
Revenue
total,
and
so
you
would
see
for
the
first
year,
we'd
be
looking
at
operating
in
the
negative
in
about
approximately
344
thousand
dollars
years
after
that,
looking
at
the
cost
alone
of
just
Staffing,
with
no
other
considerations,
we'd
be
looking
at
a
deficit
each
year
of
approximately
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
order
to
run
those
fields
to
the
current
level
that
they're
at
right
now
in
the
current
state
that
they're
at.
B
So
they
have
additional
Revenue
generation
that
you're
not
reflecting
here.
If
we
were
fully
managing
it
we
had
would
we
have
additional
Revenue
opportunities
that
are
not
reflected
here
too.
A
I
think
we
would
have
opportunities
to
potentially
seek
out
sponsorships,
but
we
don't
currently
have
a
program
that
we
are
running
for
soccer.
That
is
totally
out
to
abysa
right
now.
Asheville
Shield
also
runs
so
we
do
not
have
any
kind
of
Revenue
that
we'd
be
taking
in
through
those
programs.
Foreign.
B
A
B
A
A
So
if
you've
got
a
child
who's
in
playing
soccer
they're
asking
that
those
those
children,
those
youth,
are
helping
them
fundraise
within,
and
so
you
know,
they've
got
approximately
what
5
200
youth
that
are
already
enrolled
in
their
programs
that
are
already
helping
them
fundraise
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
so
we
would
definitely
need
to
be
building
up
that
base
to
come
anywhere
close
to
that
fundraising
through
the
Grassroots
effort
in
that
manner.
B
Yeah
or
I
guess
the
other
question
would
be
like
if
if
this
financial
responsibility
for
operating
and
managing
the
facilities
was
now
like
on
local
government-
and
it
was
no
longer
on
like
that-
two
hundred
thousand
dollars-
that's
now
no
longer
on
the
organizations
to
come
up
with
that
funding
I
mean.
Could
you
potentially
adjust
what
it
costs
to
utilize
the
field
to
kind
of
make
up
for
that
deficit,
since,
basically,
the
taxpayers
are
covering
that
now
organizations
would
would
not
be.
Was
that
thought
about,
or
is
it
forty
dollars?
A
No,
that's
just
what
the
current
that's
what
the
current
contract
is
for,
and
so
what
I
would
say
is
I
think
in
the
future.
There'd
be
there's
opportunity
to
incrementally
look
at
what
that
fee
is
to
be
able
to
hit
the
objective
that
you're
talking
about,
but
I
think
that
would
that
we
would
want
to
do
that
incrementally
over
the
course
of
a
few
years.
Sure.
A
So
what
we've
got
here
is
kind
of
standard
components
of
an
RFP
and
those
include
the
maintenance
and
upkeep
of
sports
Fields.
Providing
recreational
and
competitive
athletic
programs
employing
staff
designated
to
maintain
and
program.
Those
fields
provide
necessarily
supplies
and
equipment
to
maintain
and
prepare
the
fields
for
use
and
then
finally,
another
standard
component
is
to
manage
and
operate.
The
concession
stand
out
of
there.
A
We
also
require
that
they
maintain
a
master
schedule
for
the
sports
fields
and
that
this
is
visible
to
the
open
community.
We're
going
to
ensure
the
ability
to
provide
Equitable
access
to
programming
through
Outreach
and
financial
assistance.
So
we'll
have
that
in
there
as
well
as
providing
having
them,
provide
a
yearly
use
report
for
us.
A
So
with
that,
we'll
have
contract
oversight
and
we'll
schedule
in
designated
check-in
times
to
ensure
that
the
RFP
and
that
their
contract
is
being
followed
and
I
would
say
that
that
so
those
are
some.
We
feel
that
these
enhanced
components
address
the
issues
of
transparency
that
were
really
the
main
piece
of
concern
that
was
come
up,
that
the
issuing
solely
of
the
RFP
also
helps
with
the
opportunity
for
any
organization
to
be
able
to
participate
in
the
in
the
competitive
bid
process.
A
Is
there
anything
else
here
that
that
you
all
can
think
of
that?
You
would
like
to
see
or
have
heard.
We
feel
that
this
covers
the
full
scope
of
concerns
that
we
heard
through
our
listening
sessions.
B
I
guess
I
guess
my
question
would
be
I
mean
glad
like
all
these
conversations
are
happening.
It
sounds
positive
and
so
that's
that's
terrific,
but
I
guess
in
all
of
those
enhancements,
sound
sound
good.
But
what
if
there
is
just
sort
of
a
I
mean
I
think
in
the
past
part
of
the
concern
has
been.
You
know
we
don't
have
some
of
these
elements,
but
also
just
that
there.
B
Maybe
it's
just
a
fundamental
disagreement
about
how
much
time
ought
to
be
available
for
public
use
or
organizational
use
of
the
facilities
outside
the
adysa
organizations.
So
you
could
you
could
have
all
this
transparency
and
things
like
that,
but
it
wouldn't
necessarily
like
mean
there's
consensus
on
that
question
right.
So
right.
A
All
right
so,
with
those
draft
components,
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
what
we'd
be
proposing
is
that
Buncombe
County
would
retain
the
below
areas
of
responsibility
just
so
that
everybody's
very
fully
aware-
and
that
includes
the
maintenance
of
common
areas
of
the
complex,
including
the
playgrounds,
restrooms
and
shelters
again.
These
are
all
components
that
we
currently
oversee
manage
agreements
for
non-athletic
amenities,
including
the
community
garden,
edible
Urban
Orchard
and
the
disc
golf
course
as
well
as
maintain
and
manage
all
other
areas
of
the
sports
complex,
including
the
dark.
The
the
dog
park.
A
That's
out
there,
so
we
in
this
RFP
we
would
retain
all
those
pieces
of
the
sports
park
and
with
that
we
come
down
to
our
estimated
timeline,
so
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
issue
the
RFP
by
the
end
of
the
first
week
of
August.
Here
we
are
based
on
any
comments
that
we
have
backed
by
you.
We
feel
like
we
can
get
that
RFP
by
the
end
of
this
week,
potentially
one
of
the
other
things
that
we're
recommending
and
again
for
the
sake
of
transparency,
to
come
out.
A
It
won't
be
a
requirement,
but
it'll
be
something
where
our
staff
will
be
on
site
and
location
to
walk
around
with
anyone
who
wants
to
look
at
what
it
is
that
we're
looking
at
putting
out
for
bid
proposals
would
be
due
September
the
14th,
and
then
we
would
look
to
award
the
contract
by
October
the
3rd
implementing
the
contract
by
November,
the
1st,
and
so
we
feel
like
this
is
a
reasonable
timeline
based
on
being
able
to
put
out
to
bid,
have
questions
answered
back
and
then
negotiate
a
contract
and
award
It.
Ultimately,.
B
And
in
terms
of
decision
making
around
this
is
this
a
contract
that
would
come
back
to
the
board
for
review,
or
is
this
made
at
the
staff
level?
What's
the
process
in
terms
of
like
executing
the
contract,
yeah.
B
Okay
I
mean,
if
that's
the
case,
then
I
think
I
mean
I.
Think
this
sounds
positive.
I
would
want
to
get
more
information
on
the
RFP
and
the
details
of
that.
If,
if
ultimately,
it's
not
coming
back
to
us,
I
would
at
least
want
to
make
sure
that
the
board
is
like
fully
on
board
with
the
elements
of
that
RFP,
including
you
know,
again,
I
think
this
question
around
like
how
do
we
make
these?
B
You
know
these
decisions
around
allocation
of
the
public
use
out
there,
the
length
of
this
contract
like
when
will
we
have
another
chance
to
review
it?
The
last
one
was
pretty
long,
so
when
will
it
come
back?
So
I
just
think,
there's
a
lot
of
details
that
if
we
don't
get
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
the
back
end
of
it,
I'd
want
to
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
the
front
of
it
yeah
yeah,
but
it
sounds
otherwise.
I
mean
it's
all
sounds
positive,
and
so
other
questions
or
comments.
B
All
right
resolution
delegating
refund
authority
over
overpayments
of
excise
taxes,
hey
Brandon.
C
C
Sometimes
these
get
filed
in
the
wrong
County.
And
when
that
happens,
you
have
to
come
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
have
a
hearing
to
get
your
refund
until
this
month
and
now
you
can
delegate
the
authority
to
give
a
refund
to
the
county
manager
or
the
finance
officer,
and
we
think
that's
a
great
idea.
C
So
here's
the
session
law
that
allows
you
to
do
it
and
we
think
you
should
do
it.
The
process
will
still
involve
a
written
request
and
the
taxpayer
will
be
required
to
demonstrate
the
correct
tax
has
been
paid
to
the
correct
County
before
they
receive
a
refund.
If
their
request
is
denied,
they
will
still
have
the
opportunity
to
bring
that
request
to
this
board
to
have
the
staff
decision
reviewed.
B
If
you've
got
any
other
resolutions
similar
to
this,
please
bring
them
forward
as
soon
as
possible
too.
So
we
are
all
for
this
kind
of
thing.
So
all
right,
strategic
Plan,
update.
D
Unfortunately,
Commissioners
I,
don't
think
I'll
be
as
quick
as
Brandon
over
there
I
apologize.
My
piece
will
actually
prove
pretty
short,
but
you
got
to
other
people
behind
me.
So,
as
you
may
recall,
since
I've
been
here,
I've
been
coming
up
to
you
all
quarterly.
D
To
give
you
an
update
on
the
Strategic
plan,
I'm
happy
to
announce
this
is
the
last
time
I'll
be
doing
that
because
I've
decided
to
delegate
that
to
some
of
our
other
departmental
directors,
so
we're
doing
a
switch,
though
as
part
of
our
culture
strategy
and
Innovation
we're
really
empowering
our
departments
to
own
their
business
plan
and
to
own
their
component
of
the
Strategic
plan.
So,
instead
of
having
me
come
up
here
and
tell
you
what
Tim,
love
or
Nate
Pennington
is
doing
probably
makes
more
sense
just
to
have
them.
D
Tell
you
what
they're
doing
and
have
the
subject
matter.
Experts
be
the
direct
line
of
communication
with
you
all.
So
what
will
happen
is
about
every
other
month,
one
of
our
Focus
areas
within
the
Strategic
plan,
the
department
directors
and
key
staff
Associated
them.
They
will
come
up
here
and
they
will
give
you
an
update
on
their
item.
Another
benefit
is
instead
of
hearing
me:
try
to
cram
out
the
entire
strategic
plan
in
15
minutes,
you're
actually
going
to
get
15
minutes
of
one
Focus
area.
D
So
it's
going
to
allow
you
to
go
a
little
deeper
and
learn
a
little
more
than
in
the
past,
so
I'm
excited,
Tim,
love,
I
believe
is
going
to
kick
us
off
today
with
fiber
and
economy.
Then
we'll
come
back
in
October
with
educate
and
capable,
and
then
we'll
do
Resident
well-being.
Then
we'll
do
an
environmental
and
energy
stewardship
group.
Then
we'll
go
to
the
foundational
group
and
then
we'll
go
to
equity
and
then
we'll
start
all
over.
So
without
further
Ado
I'll.
Let
Tim
come
up.
E
All
right
good
afternoon
so
today,
I
will
be
chatting
with
you
about
the
vibrant
economy,
Focus
area,
but
additionally,
Nate
Pennington
is
going
to
join,
to
talk
about
a
familiar
topic
to
some
of
you,
that's
the
comp
plan
and
how
that
relates
to
our
vibrant
economy,
the
format
for
the
presentation
today.
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
kind
of
lay
some
context
for
what's
actually
happening
in
the
community.
You
know
what
are
some
of
the
community
indicators.
What
does
the
poverty
rate
look
like?
E
What
does
unemployment
look
like
things
like
that
and
then
talk
about
our
strategic
plan
and
the
goals
in
that
strategic
plan?
How
we're
doing
against
those
goals?
But
let's
also
recognize
that
you
know
our
strategic
plan
goals
may
be
looking
well,
but
there
may
be
things
that
have
changed
since
the
plan
came
together
that
we
need
to
start
or
begin
to
focus
on
as
we
kind
of
evolve
with
reality.
You
know
things
like
inflation,
covid,
any
any
number
of
topics.
E
So
as
we
start
with
our
kind
of
laying
the
foundation,
so
the
state
of
Buncombe
kind
of
where
are
we
overall,
we've
got
a
few
data
points
here
on
the
left,
we're
talking
about
unemployment
rates
on
the
right,
we're
talking
about
basically
developments
and
permitting
on
the
left.
You
can
see
that
you
know
our
unemployment
rate
is
right.
Around
three
percent.
E
The
state
is
right
around
3.4
percent.
This
is,
of
course,
a
pretty
drastic
change
from
where
we
were
just
a
few
years
ago,
when
we
went
from
being
the
lowest
unemployment
rate
in
the
state
to
the
highest
overnight
due
to
restrictions
around
covid,
and
so
that
was
the.
If
you're
tracking
with
me,
that's
April,
May
of
2020,
we
went
to
the
worst
in
the
state.
So
overall,
there's
been
an
improvement
that
doesn't
mean
everything's.
E
Okay,
there's
still
work
to
be
done,
there's
still
people
that
are
not
engaged
in
the
workforce
for
any
number
of
reasons,
and
that's
what
we
want
to
talk
about
Additionally,
you
know.
If
we
look
on
the
permitting
side,
you
know
no
surprise,
we
talk
about
it
all
the
time,
there's
a
lot
of
growth,
and
so
you
can
see
some
of
those
permitting
figures
we're
comparing
year
to
date
as
well
as
the
same
time
last
year.
E
So
you
can
see
overall,
you
know
we're
390
permits
this
month
compared
to
296
from
the
same
month
last
year
year
to
date
units
almost
2
000
compared
to
1500
from
the
prior
year.
The
valuation
of
those
permits,
of
course,
is
increasing,
so
I'm
telling
you
something
you
already
know,
which
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
growth,
but
we
thought
it's
an
important
point
to
mention.
You
know
our
unemployment's
down
our
growth
is
up.
E
This
chart
is
a
lot
to
look
at
where
I'm
going
to
start
on
the
right,
with
the
brown
and
so
for
years,
and
still
Buncombe
County
has
lagged
behind
the
state
in
terms
of
average
wages,
and
so
that's
a
critical
measure
that
we're
targeting
in
the
Strategic
plan
but
wanted
to
show
you
kind
of
where
we
are
today,
so
our
our
current
average
wage
for
the
all
private
sector,
jobs
I,
think
this
excludes
of
Farm
industries
in
particular,
is
27.32
across
the
county.
E
This
is
a
modest
increase
of
about
70
cents
from
the
prior
year.
So
a
good
thing,
the
trade-off
those
were
still
lagging
behind
the
state.
So
you
can
see
the
state
is
closer
to
29.60
and
has
seen
a
dollar
76
increase
over
the
same
time
period,
and
so,
while
we're
seeing
an
uptick
we're
not
at
the
same
Pace
as
the
rest
of
the
state
which
for
us,
if
we're
chasing
the
state,
is
a
problem
but
there's
another
really
important
factor
here,
which
is
inflation.
E
And
so
we
know
that
inflation
is
a
major
issue
across
the
country,
and
so
the
big
question
for
us
is
sure.
We've
made
a
modest
gain,
but
are
we
keeping
up
with
inflation
and
if
not,
how
do
we
catch
up
and
what
are
some
strategies?
So
when
you
heard
me
start
at
the
beginning
of
you
know,
we've
got
some
goals,
we're
doing
pretty
well,
but
we
also
need
to
take
a
look
at
where
we
actually
are
in
reality
and
sort
of
course
correct.
As
we
go
I'm
on
the
far
left.
E
That's
a
lot
to
look
at
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
it
is.
We
just
listed
occupations
that
occur
in
Buncombe
County.
These
are
related
to
BLS
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
categories.
That's
why
they're
kind
of
they
have
funny
titles,
but
you
can
see
the
number
of
jobs
occurring
in
the
community,
but
you
can
also
see
the
median
hourly
wage.
So
it
gives
you
a
sense
of
you
know
what
types
of
occupations
are
producing
the
highest
wages
in
our
community,
and
this
is
just
straight
Bureau
of
Labor
Statistics
data.
E
We
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
when
we
talk
average
wages.
You
know
we're
at
27
32,
you
know
which
wages
are.
You
know
driving
that
up
versus
which
wages
are
potentially
driving,
that
down.
You'll
never
hear
me
say
that
there's
necessarily
a
bad
job
in
our
community,
but
there
are
certainly
some
that
pay
differently
so.
B
B
E
B
E
Might
potentially
see
a
decrease
and
that's
something
we
can
certainly
follow
up
on
the
the
brown
boxes
is
set
in
the
stage
for
we're
creating
an
internal
facing
dashboard.
So
we
can
look
at
these
metrics
on
a
more
regular
basis,
so
we're
glad
to
take
that
tweak.
This
is
relatively
new
to
us
sure
thanks.
It's.
F
Really
helpful
to
see
this
data,
and
one
thing
that
really
jumps
out
as
you
look
at
the
table
on
the
left
is
that
the
sectors
that
have
the
highest
number
of
employers
are
often
the
sectors
with
the
lowest
wages,
so
I
think
that's
another
factor
that
is
important
to
track,
not
just
the
sort
of
global
view
of
the
median
or
average,
but
the
volume
of
our
local
workers
who
are
in
Industries,
where
the
median
is
11,
13,
15
dollars,
I
wonder
if,
as
we
move
forward,
that's
something
we
could
drill
down
on
some
more
to
really
kind
of
you
know,
as
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
certainly
during
the
pandemic
in
some
ways,
there's
a
sort
of
story
of
two
bunkums
that
and
and
the
more
we
can
understand.
F
I.
Think
about
the
experience
of
folks
who
are
in
that
lower
quadrant
of
hourly
wages
would
be
helpful.
That's.
E
Absolutely
it
and
you
know
we'll
get
to
the
goals
in
a
minute
and
how
we
tackle
some
of
this,
certainly
not
solving
it
but
sort
of
contributing
to
improving
it.
So
all
right
so
then
you
know
we
shift
into
kind
of
the
Strategic
plan
and
the
vibrant
economy,
strategic
plan,
bunkum
2025,
and
so
there
are
three
goals
on
the
left
that
are
kind
of
the
focus
and
those
are
our
tier
one
goals
to
the
right.
E
You
get
kind
of
the
the
goals
that
fall
underneath
those
tier
one
goals
so
go
go
number
one
and
we're
going
to
spend
time
on
each
of
these
today.
So
if
you
have
questions
we'll
definitely
dig
in,
but
the
first
goal
is
Implement
land
use
strategies
that
encourage
affordable
housing,
your
transportation
and
jobs.
That's
largely
the
work
of
a
comprehensive
plan
and
something
that
Nate's
going
to
come
speak
about
in
just
a
second.
E
Our
next
Big
Goal
relates
to
increasing
the
median
household
income
to
catch
up
with
the
North
Carolina
Benchmark,
and
so
that
wage
goal
is
made
up
of
those
tier
two
goals
right
beside
it.
So,
focusing
on
you
know
the
average
wages
of
Buncombe
County
incentivized
projects,
but
also
increasing
household
income
for
step
graduates.
E
Looking
at
the
full
picture
to
to
take
away
on
this
from
a
strategic
plan
perspective,
these
goals
are
green.
We
set
goals
and
we'll
show
you
what
those
look
like
later,
but
we're
on
track
with,
where
we're
supposed
to
be
certainly
doesn't
mean
that
our
work
is
done.
We
have
a
long
way
to
go
all
right,
so
we're
going
to
shift
and
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
for
a
moment,
I'm
going
to
invite
Nate
Pennington
up
to
talk
about
goal.
One,
and
so
that's
that
land
use
goal
that
we
mentioned
earlier.
G
Good
afternoon,
everyone
Tim
I'm,
going
to
the
next
one
and
I'm
going
to
start
here.
Okay,
we're
gonna
switch
back
and
forth
because
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
relationship
here,
so
just
keep
that
in
mind,
but
anyway,
one
of
the
goals
that
that
is
could
be
familiar
to
you
all
already
is
already
contained
within
our
community
oriented
development
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
build
on
the
successes
of
things
that
have
worked
for
us
already.
The
progress,
the
measurables,
the
deliverables
on
that
are
obviously
one
that
we've
talked
about.
G
Maybe
you
mentioned
come
prince
playing
as
well
underway
we're
also
looking
at
and
especially
the
affordable
housing
committee.
G
We've
talked
a
little
bit
about
we're
going
to
start
looking
at
any
and
all
available
properties,
so
we're
taking
a
hard
look
at
county-owned
properties
and
we're
also
looking
at
some
of
the
the
school
and
other
related
properties
as
well,
and
we're
also
even
engaging
with
other
opportunities
looking
at
any
and
all
available
State
properties
and
then
we'll
start
branching
out
to
have
a
further
expanded
discussion,
as
it
relates
to
underutilized
properties
that
maybe
some
of
our
Community
Partners
hold.
G
As
well
the
affordable
housing
goals,
we've
talked
a
lot
about
utilization
of
arpa
funds
within
the
affordable
housing
committee,
and
then
those
have
translated
into
a
broader
conversation
that
we've
had
with
you
all
as
well,
and
then
we
all
know
what
the
issues
are.
It's
no
surprise
that
Land
is
Our.
Scarcest
resource
said
it
before
we'll
just
continue
to
say
it,
but
site
availability
is
going
to
become
increasingly
challenging.
We
also
have
our
issues
as
they
relate
to
terrain,
but
another
one.
G
It
relates
to
floodplain
and
other
properties
that
have
challenges
similar
to
that
as
well,
and
we're
in
a
very,
very
hyper-inflated
economy
right
now,
and
that
translates
into
things
like
the
high
cost
of
building
materials,
but
also
interest
rates
are
on
the
rise
and
also
everyone
is
in
competition
for
that
same
amount
of
of
restricted
land
as
well.
We're
also
talking
a
lot
about
conservation,
so
we
have
to
be.
Very,
we
always
have
to
keep
in
mind
is
where
we
want
to
conserve
lands.
G
This
is
a
community
indicator
I'm
going
to
bring
Matt
up
for
one
second
to
touch
on
this,
but
this
is
the
spectrum
of
all
the
things
that
we
do-
the
affordable
housing
committee
and
it
was
recently
discussed
with
the
commissioner
some
of
the
goals
associated
with
the
work
that's
discussed
on
this
slide.
E
H
H
So
this
slide
just
represents
for
the
board,
the
Investments
to
date
and
the
activities
that
have
been
completed
towards
reaching
those
recently
adopted
board
goals
in
the
area
of
affordable
housing,
and
this
is
part
of
or
reflects
you
know,
the
measures
and
and
the
activities
that
we're
undertaking
to
emphasize
creating
affordable
housing
along
Transportation
corridors
and
using
every
kind
of
tool
that's
available
in
order
to
to
advance
that
particular
strategic
goal
and
priority
area.
I
can
certainly
answer
questions
about
about
this
graphic
and
representation.
H
H
Completed
so
we
have
a
couple
of
different
versions
of
this
particular
graphic.
These
are
the
units
that
have
been
impacted
through
the
end
of
fiscal
year,
22.
and
just
for
perspective,
so
anything
that
we
have
funded
and
that
and,
for
example,
in
a
multi-family
development,
if
there's
funding
associated
with
it
and
that
hasn't
gone
to
close
and
Co
and
no
one
is
living
in
it,
we're
not
going
to
count
that
unit.
B
G
One
thing
to
report
is
I'm
happy
to
announce
that
coming
online
they're
in
final
inspections
is
the
Jasper
Apartments.
So
some
of
y'all
might
be
remember
that
that's
out
on
us
70
and
we're
literally
doing
all
their
final
inspections
and
that's
definitely
going
to
move
the
needle
in
that
regard.
G
So
specific
initiatives
related
to
this
goal
are:
we've
talked
a
little
with
you
all
about
this
concept
of
a
future
land
use
map.
We
don't
currently
have
one.
This
is
very
important,
because
what
this
seeks
to
do
is
part
of
the
comprehensive
planning
process
is
identify
where
we
want
to
concentrate
our
energies
so
whether
that
be
to
reserve
lands
for
economic
development,
diversifying
that
economy
as
Tim
just
spoke
about.
G
Reservation
of
lands
for
institutional
needs,
reservation
of
lands
for
things
like
hospital
and
Health
Care,
Emergency
facilities,
fire
police,
those
sorts
of
things
all
that
sort
of
spoken
to
in
a
future
land
use
map,
and
then
we
grow
zoning
changes
based
on
that
map.
It's
an
industry
standard
and
a
best
practice
in
the
field
of
planning.
G
G
To
look
at
the
development
of
those
properties
also
identify
opportunities
to
expand
infrastructure
and
that's
not
only
related
to
both
public
sewer
but
there's
public
water
and
also
broadband
and
we'll
we'll
hit
on
that
here
in
just
a
moment,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
on
and
streamline
things
that
we
know
already
work.
So
the
community
oriented
development
which
incentivizes
density
based
on
good
project
design,
based
on
where
we
want
to
see
development
in
those
all
important
corridors.
G
We
will
continue
to
grow
case
in
point,
never
ever
throw
out
plans
that
are
either
older
or
that
are
currently
in
place
because
they
are
such
a
value.
You
always
want
to
grow
those
plans.
You
want
to
see
what
was
accomplished,
what
wasn't
accomplished
and
if
it
wasn't
accomplished,
why
wasn't
it
accomplished?
So
what
you're
looking
at
here
is
from
the
2013
Conference
of
land
use
plan
and
what
this
does?
Is
it
really?
This
is
the
first
thing
I'd
like
to
show
someone
who
just
moved
here.
G
Okay,
this
is
the
thing
that's
often
taken
for
granted.
What
this
is
showing
you
is
where
water
and
sewer
is
generally
available
in
the
county
and
for
those
areas
that
are
largely
not
available.
There's
numerous
reasons,
whether
that
be
high
quality,
farmlands,
steep
slopes,
protected,
Ridge,
Forest,
Blue,
Ridge
Parkway.
G
The
fact
that
we
also
maintain
in
the
barnardsville
area
the
state
model
Watershed
program
for
the
protection
of
Public,
Water,
Resources,
The,
Ivy
River,
of
course
supplies
Weaverville,
and
so
we
exercise
some
additional
restrictions
in
that
area,
not
to
mention
the
fact
that
you've
got
the
Burnett
Reservoir
in
that
area,
as
well
as
Bee
Tree,
which
supplies
the
majority
of
Asheville
Water
and,
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
flip
back
to
Tim,
however,
feel
free
to
interject.
With
any
questions
you
might
have
at
this
point.
J
K
I
guess
one
thought
or
idea
I
would
have
after
you
know,
looking
at
that
at
housing
bar
graph
at
tracker.
If
you
will
makes
me
think
of
the
the
wage
yeah
yeah
that
something
like
that,
I
guess
Tim
is
something
that
I
think
would
be
cool
to
see
in
terms
of
wages.
I
feel
like
I've
seen
that
from
the
EDC
before
over
the
years,
but
something
that
we
can
look
at
Trends
in
terms
of
wages
and
sectors
and
I
think
that
would
be
great
to
see
how
we're
going
it.
E
So
we're
on
to
our
next
goal,
we'll
follow
kind
of
a
similar
path.
So
we'll
start
you
know,
here's
the
Strategic
plan
goals.
Here's
a
community
indicator
that
kind
of
check
us
on
how
we're
doing,
in
reality,
some
focus
on
strategic
initiatives
that
are
moving
forward
and
then
a
case
in
point.
So
we
can
deep
dive
a
little
bit
for
this
particular
goal.
We're
talking
about
increasing
median
household
income
to
the
North
Carolina
Benchmark,
some
progress
that
we've
seen
just
to
give
you
examples,
some
announcements.
E
You
know
the
East
Fork
Pottery
system,
Logistics
and
board
Warner
those
announcements.
You
know
200
plus
jobs
at
an
average
wage
of
26
per
hour,
the
inclusive
hiring
partners
program,
which
will
spend
some
more
time
on
in
a
second
with
20
full-time
placements.
E
But
then
some
discussion
on
challenges,
and
so
these
aren't
new
you've
probably
heard
this
everywhere.
But
you
know
one
of
the
challenges
we're
seeing
with
our
wages.
Even
if
we
are
increasing
wages
in
some
areas,
those
are
being
batted
down
by
inflationary
variables
that
are
largely
out
of
our
control
but
nonetheless
present.
E
Additionally,
Workforce
availability
continues
to
be
an
issue
if
you've
talked
to
Nathan
Ramsey.
Recently,
you
probably
heard
him
say
that
there's
10
000
vacancies
in
the
MSA.
So
how
do
you
fill
those
spots
where
they
come
from,
and
we've
of
course
seen
those
challenges
here
with
our
own
Workforce?
E
So
one
of
the
community
indicators,
you
know
we're
green
on
the
goals
around
wages,
because
that's
how
the
goal
has
been
structured,
but
so
how
are
we
actually
doing?
So?
Let's
look
at
poverty
rates
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
metric
when
we're
as
a
counter
to
average
wages,
and
what
we
see
is
that
in
2020
the
poverty
rate
increased
from
2019
in
Buncombe
County.
We
went
from
12.2
percent
to
13.9
percent.
E
This
is
counter
to
the
the
presentation
on
the
left,
where
you
see
the
state
actually
dropped
by
about
a
by
about
a
half
a
point.
So
that's
a
really
important
indicator
because
we're
performing
on
our
strategic
plan,
but
we're
still
seeing
kind
of
this
increase.
So
this
is
an
area
that
deserves
some
drill
down
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
additionally.
If
we
look
on
the
chart
on
the
right,
we
start
to
Trend
poverty
rate
over
a
10-year
period,
2010
to
2020.
you'll
notice.
E
The
the
light
blue
sort
of
wider
line
represents
Buncombe
County
compared
to
North
Carolina
and
the
United
States.
What
you
should
be
following
is
that
in
2017
there's
a
sort
of
2017
2018,
there's
sort
of
an
upward
tick
here
in
Buncombe,
and
so
that's
not
a
good
thing.
We're
moving
in
the
wrong
direction
there
and
that's
some
information.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
shared
with
y'all
and
so
that's
roughly
moving
from
about
11
and
a
half
percent
to
13.9
percent
in
a
four
year
period.
E
B
B
Yeah
sure
I
mean
it
just.
It
would
be
interesting
to
follow
up
on
that
I
mean
recognizing,
like
we
have
this
super
low
unemployment
rate
right,
yet
the
poverty
rate's
actually
growing
up
going
up.
B
So
just
you
know
under
trying
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
like
the
relationship
between
that
chart
and
some
of
the
jobs
data.
In
terms
of
you
know
what
percentage
of
these
people
are
actually
working
yet
still
under
this
definition
of
poverty,
and
what
percentage
are
more,
you
know
they're
not
in
the
workforce,
because
they're
senior
citizens
or
disabled
or
for
some
other
reason
would
be
interesting.
Interesting
for
sure
follow-up.
E
F
I'd
be
interested
to
hear
anyone's
thoughts
on
kind
of
drivers
on
this
and
and
what
what
might
be
happening
in
Buncombe
County
that
we're
not
seeing
it
happen
in
other
parts
of
the
state
or
just
welcome
any
insights
or
thoughts
on
this
from
staff
or
other
commissioners.
K
E
J
E
I
I
can't
give
you
like
a
definitive,
yes,
but
I
think
clearly
there's
an
impact
through
those
rates.
Clearly,
the
cost
of
living
in
our
community
has
shifted
as
well
and
as
I've
showed.
You,
like,
our
wages,
aren't
necessarily
tracking
what
those
costs
of
living
increases,
so
I
think
there's
a
culmination
I,
don't
think
it's
a
a
single
item
but
all
playing
together.
L
B
E
E
M
Before
you
break
out
two
by
race,
because
I
think
when
you
break
that
out,
then
you'll
begin
to
see
where
the
poverty
is.
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
unemployment
rate
at
three
percent.
But
when
you
look
at
people
of
color,
it's
a
different
ball
game,
but
I'd
like
to
see
that.
E
M
E
Sure
and
I
think
the
questions
that
y'all
are
asking.
This
is
why
we
wanted
to
present
this
there's
there's
different
stories
to
tell
and
the
reality
is
at
the
end
of
the
day.
These
are
the
numbers
that
matter,
and
so
we
have
to
sort
of
drill.
K
K
Once
the
sorry
Tim,
maybe
Nate
knows
this
when's
the
next,
like
Community
American
Community
survey,
isn't
that
every
is
that
every
five
years
or
two
or.
K
B
Hey
just
while
we're
throwing
out
different
data,
you're
interested
in
one
one
other
would
be
so.
We've
got
the
on
that
going
back.
This
is
you,
don't
have
to
go
back
to
it,
but
just
looking
back
at
the
chart
that
has
the
the
average
hourly
wages
private
sector
with
the
2732
for
Buncombe
County.
B
Now,
if
you
calculated
out
by
40
hours
a
week,
you
would
kind
of
get
this
like.
Okay,
here's
what
someone
making
that
much
money
makes
over
the
course
of
the
year,
but
I
don't
know
if
the
average
worker
Works
40
hours
I
mean
some
people
work
more.
Some
people
work
less,
but
I
assume
the
average
is
probably
a
lesser
number
than
that.
So
I'm
I
guess
one
other
follow-up
data
point
would
be
like.
E
Sure
and
glad
to
take
a
look
at
all
of
these
things
and
some
we
may
find
that.
There's
not
you
know
a
consistent
answer.
You
know
a
lot
of
the
census
and
Bureau
Labor
Statistics
data,
it's
formulaic
and
they
say
this
is
how
we
calculate
you
know
this
particular
rate
using
this
denominator
or
things
like
that.
But
we'll
take
a
look.
F
I
mean:
is
it
when
you
look
at
the
chart,
the
poverty
rate
percentage
2010
to
20,
and
you
see
sort
of
how
steeply
the
Buncombe
County
rate
contrasts
with
the
national
and
state
rate.
That's
the
kind
of
graph
you
see
when
there
was
an
incident
right
like
and
I'm
just
you
know
something
that
sort
of
sharply
reversed
a
trend
I'm
just
trying
to
kind
of
think
about
what
what
else
happened
in
montgom
county
in
that
2017-18
window?
What
other
sort
of
structural
level
forces
do
we
see
that
would
have
caused
that
level
of
steep
reversal?
K
B
J
B
B
A
lot
of
other
layers
of
difficulty
get
imposed
on
folks
who
are
in
this
chart,
but
this
is
just
in
this-
is
just
income,
so
I
mean
you
know
my
just
sort
of
intuitive
answers
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
growth
we
have
in
the
area.
We've
got
a
lot
of
like
really
affluent
people
moving
here,
who
actually
have
pretty
good
wages,
and
probably
some
of
that
positive
wage
growth
that
we're
seeing
overall
wage
growth
in
the
economy,
but
down
at
the
you
know,
lower
skilled
level
of
the
workforce.
B
They're
still
just
like
things
are
going
in
the
wrong
direction
for
that
segment
of
workers
who
are
less
skilled
they're,
just
you
know,
don't
have
a
college
degree
I
mean
in
in
that
part
of
the
workforce.
The
trends
are
going
in
in
the
wrong
direction.
I
mean
that
would
be
in
my
in
our
economy
has
a
fair
amount
of
that
compared
to
other
parts
of
our
state.
So
that'd
be
my
just
like
initial
reaction
to
it,
but
I'm
sure
it's
more
complex
than
that,
but.
E
Well,
we're
glad
to
take
some
of
these
actions.
We've
been
writing
them
down
and
bring
back
another
look
at
the
data.
There's
going
to
be
a
million
ways
to
slice
it,
but
we'll
give
another
cut
at
it.
One
of
the
questions
we're
really
interested
in
that's
not
we
didn't
have
it
ready,
was
to
kind
of
talk,
cost
burden
in
our
community
and
understanding
that
so
I
think
we're
kind
of
aligned.
We
weren't
ready
for
that
today,
but
that's
something
we're
working
on
if.
F
We
could
even
push
a
little
more
into
sort
of
the
realm
of
analysis.
I'd
appreciate
that
to
as
you
all
do,
that
what
are
the
drivers
and
what
are
the
interventions
that
we
think
could
reverse
these
Trends.
So
it's
very
very
helpful
to
be
able
to
be
looking
at
this
in
more
specific
terms.
F
So
thank
you
all
for
the
the
prep
work,
but
I
would
also
love
to
hear
kind
of
if
we
need
to
bring
in
some
experts
to
help
us
understand
this,
but
it's
very
striking
and
and
would
love
to
understand
as
much
as
we
can
about
it.
E
Good
deal
so
in
in
terms
of
you
know
the
poverty
rate
clearly
striking
what
are
some
of
the
the
items
that
we've
been
working
on
some
of
the
initiatives
to
try
to
drive
wage
growth
and
where
we
can
so
some
of
the
things
that
you
see
from
us.
Typically,
you
know
recruitment
of
new
Industries,
high-wage
Industries,
where
possible.
That's
a
part
of
the
strategy.
E
Buncombe
County
incentivized
projects
as
an
example
continued
growth
of
Workforce
Development
programs,
but
you
know
taking
that
a
step
further,
so
really
reaching
into
different
parts
of
our
community
to
bring
people
out
of
existing
jobs
into
higher
wage
jobs
and
so
examples
of
those
programs.
You
know
the
inclusive,
hiring
partners
program,
the
accelerate
bunkum
program
which
the
commission
just
allocated,
funding
towards
in
arpa,
as
well
as
Inspire
recovery,
which
is
a
program
with
Philip,
Cooper
and
others.
E
E
One
of
the
areas
we
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
focus
on
today
is,
as
we
talk
about
Workforce
Development
programs
and
really
supporting
folks
getting
out
of
potentially
low
lower
wage
employment
into
higher
wage
employment.
One
of
those
examples
is
the
inclusive
hiring
partners
program,
which
is
a
partnership
between
many
Community
organizations,
including
Buncombe
County,
the
chamber
spark
foundation
and
others,
and
what
this
program
seeks
to
do
is
to
basically
identify
potential
employees
and
link
them
up
with
potential
employers.
E
Many
of
the
candidates
for
this
program
come
through
the
Asheville
housing
authorities,
Financial
self-sufficiency
program
and
so
those
folks,
if
they
participate
in
this
program,
they
have
peer
support,
they're,
basically
guaranteed
an
interview
with
an
employer,
that's
participating
in
the
inclusive,
hiring
partners
program
and
as
a
participant
employer
in
that
program.
E
These
employers
are
one
required
to
guarantee
an
interview,
but
additionally
provide
sort
of
pure
support
for
those
that
come
in
through
the
program
just
some
metrics
on
this
particular
program
on
the
far
left,
you
see
that
there's
been
about
145
job
seekers
in
the
program.
56
proceeded
into
the
placement
process
with
20
receiving
placements
with
an
employer,
and
so
20
is
a
modest
number
for
a
new
program,
but
that
those
are
20
individuals
that
were
able
to
secure
employment
with
an
employer
providing
an
average
hourly
wage
of
1862,
which
is
that
a
second
bubble.
E
That's
on
your
chart.
To
give
you
an
example
of
the
employers
that
are
employing
folks
out
of
the
inclusive
hiring
partners
program.
There's
the
pie
chart
on
the
right,
and
so
you
can
see
the
employers
are
color
coded,
but
examples
here,
we've
got
Eaton
Silver,
Line
plastic
spark,
Foundation,
East,
Fork,
mayhack,
Thermo,
Fisher
and
continent.
So
these
are
employers
that
have
accepted
an
ihp
interview
but
then
employed
that
person
and
the
average
wage
of
those
20
placements
is
1862.
E
additionally
for
the
program,
56
percent
of
the
program
is
represented
by
bypoc
participants,
and
so
this
is
a
Workforce
Development
program.
That's
a
little
bit
different
than
what
we've
traditionally
done
focused
on
you
know,
bringing
people
into
higher
wage
opportunities
that
maybe
didn't
have
access
to
those
prior.
So
just
one
example:
not
the
only
certainly
not
the
last
program
we'll
do
and
we'll
continue
to
grow
it
an
example
of
a
program
moving
into
the
future
that
would
build
upon.
This
would
be
the
accelerate
Buncombe
program
which
again
commission
funded.
E
So
in
that
way,
sort
of
upskilling
but
taking
one
of
those
obstacles
out
of
the
way
which
is
I
can't
afford
to
go
back
to
school,
because
I
still
have
bills
to
pay
really
excited
about
that
program
more
to
follow
in
the
future,
and
thank
the
commission
for
their
support
on
that
before
I
move
to
the
next
goal.
Any
questions.
E
E
Some
of
the
expansions
recently
I
want
to
take
a
minute
to
talk
about
the
one
Buncombe
fund,
which
was
a
pretty
crazy
idea
in
2020,
but
just
a
reminder:
I
raised
almost
two
million
dollars
for
small
businesses
in
Buncombe
County
and
helped
retain
over
a
thousand
jobs,
and
so
that
happened
through
generous
donations
from
the
community,
but
also
through
multiple
iterations
of
funding
from
commission
and
certainly
all
pushing
us
to
to
drive
the
needle
on
that.
E
Additionally,
as
we
talk
about
increasing
employment
across
the
county,
one
of
the
areas
we
don't
talk
about
as
much
is
broadband
access
and
the
the
strength
that
that
can
have
in
allowing
someone
to
one
go
back
to
school,
letting
someone
you
know
in
school,
complete
their
their
work
from
home,
increasing
accessibility
to
Telehealth
and
all
those
things
we'll
talk
more
about
that
on
the
next
slide.
But
just
wanted
to
to
mention
that
here
are
challenges
remain
the
same.
E
Workforce
availability,
Big,
Time
problem,
10,
000
vacant
positions
across
the
MSA
and
then
another
area
kind
of
tricky
hiring
competition.
This
is
a
good
thing,
if
you're
in
the
workforce
and
and
seeking
to
make
a
move,
because
you're
likely
able
to
secure
higher
wages
would
never
fall
to
anybody
for
doing
that.
However,
it
does
create
some
potential
competition
and
instability
in
some
of
our
critical
functions,
and
so,
as
I
think
about
you,
know
our
emergency
services
or
firefighters.
E
Things
like
that:
a
lot
of
competition
there,
which
can
be
a
good
thing
for
wages
but
creates
a
little
bit
of
instability
potentially
and
just
wanted
to
mention
that
as
we
look
at
our
community
indicators,
so
these
three
graphs
correspond
to
the
tier
two
goals
that
I
mentioned
earlier.
So
overall
we're
trying
to
increase
employment
overall,
we're
focusing
on
three
areas:
one
is
small
business
and
startups.
The
other
is
Advanced
manufacturing
and
then
the
third
is
professional
office
and
I.T
jobs.
We
use
this
terminology.
These
are
mace
codes,
Bureau
of
Labor,
Statistics
terminology.
E
That's
why
we
pick
them.
The
reason
these
three
buckets
are
chosen
is
because
they
speak
to
different
levels
of
educational
attainment
and
so
different
economic
opportunities
for
folks.
So
as
we
talk
about
professional
office
and
I.T
jobs,
you
know
this
is
maybe
traditional
University
and
education,
maybe
higher
so
trying
to
grow
those
jobs,
and
you
can
see
that
we're
slightly
ahead
of
our
goal.
There
right
at
around
10
500
jobs
in
Buncombe
County
as
we
move
to
the
middle.
E
We
talk
about
Advanced,
manufacturing
jobs
here,
we're
speaking
to
trade
or
Technical
Community,
College
level,
education,
maybe
high
school
education.
You
can
see
we're
a
little
bit
below
where
we
want
to
be
on
that
on
that
measure,
but
in
general
you
know
we're
within
the
margin
of
error
for
being
green,
so
overall
we're
still
green
on
this
goal,
as
we
shift
over
to
the
far
left.
E
We
look
at
small
business
and
startup
jobs
here,
education,
less
important
lots
of
people
open
small
businesses
with
all
different
levels
of
education,
and
we
think
it's
important
to
grow
that
sector.
It's
not
just
about
high-tech
growth,
I.T
startups,
it's
about
people
that
are
that
you
know
that
are
Artisans
or
musicians
or
any
number
of
things.
E
So
you
can
see
that
we've
kind
of
have
an
uptick
there,
a
little
bit
of
a
plateau,
that's
more
about
the
data
source
we're
using
than
that
we've
actually
plateaued.
It
just
hasn't
been
updated
again
since
the
last
time
we
measured
it.
E
E
Some
of
our
strategic
initiatives.
Here
we
mentioned
Broadband
I'm,
going
to
save
that
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
in
a
second
I'm
completing
infrastructure
projects
across
Buncombe
County.
There
are
some
specific
ones
in
particular
that
we've
been
tracking
with
so
the
anca
Commerce
Bridge,
the
Smoky
Park
bridge
in
particular
connecting
that
to
the
roadways
out
in
Anchor,
Commerce
Park.
Super
important
dot
tells
me
that
we'll
be
able
to
drive
over
that
by
the
end
of
the
year,
exciting
Biltmore,
Park,
West,
I'm,
sure
you've
seen
the
bridge
off
of
Brevard
Road
is
complete.
E
The
last
bullet
here,
Nate
already
mentioned
it
so
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
it.
But
thinking
about
the
land
use
map,
the
future
land
use
map
and
where
there's
areas
to
preserve
certain
types
of
parcels
for
certain
types
of
development
that
could
be
industrial,
commercial
or
it
could
be
Public
Safety
or
it
could
be
educational.
But
thinking
about
that
and
how
that
can
drive
sort
of
job
growth
down
the
down.
The
future.
K
Tim,
yes,
sir,
sorry
to
please
pause
you
and
at
the
risk
of
putting
you
on
the
spot.
What's
the
like,
30
second
update
on
the
bridge
to
nowhere
and
the
The
Greenway
out.
E
So
the
the
bridge
to
nowhere
will
soon
be
completed
and
so
that
that's
the
Smoky
Park
bridge
and
so
that
you
know
the
bridge
exists.
Recently.
The
hakon
industries
company
has
opened
their
doors
they've
completed
their
building
out
there,
they're
right
up
from
New,
Belgium
and
Dot
has
completed
an
initial
access
road
that
can
get
to
that
site.
E
That's
all
done
on
that
access
road
is
a
sidewalk,
a
complete
Street,
sidewalk
and
now
dot
is
finishing
connecting
that
access
road
to
the
bridge,
and
so
that
project
will
you
know
as
long
as
weather
contractors
all
that
that
should
be
completed
by
the
end
of
this
year.
Awesome
news,
I,
guess,
awesome
news,
The
Greenway
remains
under
design,
we're
in
our
design
phase
we're
currently
doing
some
environmental
work
out
there.
K
E
So
case
in
point
for
this
one,
we
wanted
to
talk
about
Broadband
because
that's
pretty
exciting
stuff.
So
on
this
map,
what
we're
showing
you
there's
a
lot
of
dots,
I,
didn't
give
you
the
color
codes,
but
I'll
I'll
tell
you
what
it
is.
E
So
each
color-coded
dot
represents
a
different
provider
that
is
offering
to
provide
fiber
to
the
home
to
a
household,
and
so
each
of
those
dots
represents
a
household
in
Buncombe
County
that,
through
the
great
Grant
process,
there
was
an
application
submitted
by
a
provider
to
provide
fiber
to
that
house,
and
so
this
is
really
exciting,
because
these
seven
thousand
households
currently
don't
have
fiber
to
their
homes.
E
E
We
anticipate
hearing
back
on
great
Grant
applications
by
the
end
of
August,
so
the
state
tells
us
we're
hoping
it'll.
Be
sooner
and
that
it's
not
delayed,
but
the
point
being
some
of
these
households
will
be
taken
off
the
map,
a
meaning
that
they
will
receive
fiber
to
the
home.
The
money
that's
being
used
for
this
is
arpa
money
and
so
they're.
All
the
state
is
on
the
same
timeline
as
us,
so
that
match
that
you
all
put
forward
through
arpa.
E
E
That's
correct:
the
current
great
cycle
will
be
followed
by
the
cab
and
then
it's
envisioned
through
infrastructure
dollars
from
the
federal
level
that
this
whole
cycle
will
repeat
again
with
similar
funding
amounts
next
year.
So
it's
very
likely.
We
could
see
a
lot
of
this
addressed
in
the
in
the
following
year.
K
E
That's
the
Hope
okay,
you
know,
I
can't
there's
a
so.
These
applications
were
submitted.
The
way
the
state
has
set
up
the
process
that
these
applications
can
be
protested
by
incumbents
and
so
we'll
see
how
that
shakes
out.
But
the
hope
is
that
many
of
these
projects
get
addressed
and
then
yes
and.
K
E
Head,
that's
right:
this
is
public
information,
so
I'm
glad
to
share
it.
Charter
a
t
Frontier
SkyRunner
and
French
Broad
electric.
So
we
had
five
providers
six
applications
if
all
of
these
applications
were
funded
by
the
state,
which
is
what
we
would
love
to
see.
The
arpa
funds
that
you've
allocated
as
a
commission
would
be
sufficient
to
handle
the
match
for
all
of
them.
E
So
our
push
on
the
state
is
to
fund
as
much
as
you
can
and
just
get
out
of
the
way
because
we're
ready
to
match,
but
there's
more
to
it
than
that
Additionally.
E
The
state
has
indicated
that
every
County
will
get
an
award
through
this
current
great
Grant
process
and
then,
if
additional
funds
are
left
over,
counties
will
get
secondary
Awards,
so
we're
guaranteed
that
one
of
these
projects
will
pass
based
on
what
we
know
about
the
scoring
it's
likely
to
be
based
on
cost
per
household,
and
so
I
can
tell
you
what
those
numbers
look
like
and
some
of
the
larger
projects
have
a
lower
cost
per
household.
So
that's
a
good
thing
for
us
from
a
scoring
perspective.
B
I
know:
we've
got
a
closed
session
to
go
into
for
some
reviews,
we're
going
to
do
this
afternoon,
so
we
can't
take
too
much
more
time
in
this
discussion
today.
This
is
all
real
big
picture
items,
I'm
sure
we
could
talk
about
them
a
lot.
Let's
go
a
couple,
quick
questions.
I
had
before
we
move
on.
One
is
probably
an
a
question.
One
is
either
you
know.
Some
of
these
issues
are,
of
course,
getting
looked
at
in
the
comp
plan.
B
You
know
in
detail
as
well,
so
either
in
our
strategic
plans
or
in
the
comp
plan
context,
do
we
have
any
specific
goals
around
the?
B
G
Yeah,
so
it's
a
little
too
premature
at
this
point,
but
I
just
got
done
doing
some
reviews
from
the
consultant
in
our
long-range
planning
team
that
focused
heavily
around
both
vehicle
miles
traveled,
as
well
as
there's
a
couple
different
ways.
You
can
measure
that,
but
I
guess
you're
specifically
asking
about.
We
want
to
look
at
the
trends
associated
with
specifically
when
we
got
into
this
plan.
G
B
Yes,
but
also,
probably
even
in
terms
of
total
numbers,
the
number
of
people
who
just
live
in
Buncombe
County
and
work
in
Buncombe
County.
You
know
how
much
driving
people
have
to
do.
You
know
to
go
about
their
daily
lives,
with
the
pattern
of
development
that
we
have
today,
in
which
you
know,
but
then
for
the
comp
plan
purposes
like
what
will
that
look
like
in
the
future,
based
on
the
pattern
of
development
that
is
yet
to.
G
Be
created
absolutely
and
then
kind
of
in
the
midst
of
all
this
when
covet
occurred,
then
we
saw
a
huge
monkey
wrench
thrown
into
that,
because
then
we
had
this
map
is
a
good
way
of
showing
the
work
that
we
need
to
do.
We
had
the
large
influx
of
people
that
have
now
worked
at
home
that
now
will
continue
to
work
at
home.
So
we
have
to
factor
that
in
as
well.
G
So
to
that
to
that
point,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
working
with
land
of
Skye
folks,
like
Dr
Roderick,
on
some
work
that
they're
already
doing
to
sort
of
map
where
all
this
travel
is
occurring
and
then,
on
top
of
that,
we'd
also
like
to
study
sort
of
the
impact
of
folks
that
can't
afford
to
live
here
and
have
to
live
elsewhere
as
well.
That
still
would
then
need
to
return
to
travel
to
come
to
work
as
well,
so.
B
I
guess
I
guess
just
you
know
my
kind
of
party
thought
on
that
would
be,
and
again
maybe
it's
first,
maybe
something
we
embed
Within
strategic
plan,
or
maybe
it
goes
into
the
comp
plan.
I
feel,
like
you
know,
we're
talking
about
all
these
issues
around
smart
growth.
We
want
to
steer
growth
to
where
infrastructure
can
support
it.
We
want
to
steer
it
away
from
these.
You
know
more
pristine
natural
areas
and
Prime
AG,
land
and
stuff.
B
Like
that
steep
slopes,
I
just
feel
like
we
need
to
become
more
specific
around
exactly
what
the
metrics
are,
that
we're
hoping
to
achieve
from
all
that,
like
I,
think
I.
Think
I
read
from
the
staff
analysis
on
this
that
in
the
comp
plan
that
is
forecasted
that
we
might
see
as
much
as
70
000
additional
people
move
to
the
county
over
the
next
20
years,
which
is
like
almost
dropping
another
city
of
Asheville
into
the
county.
B
So
I
hope
that
turns
out
to
be
an
overestimate
personally
I'd
love
to
see
that
be
a
lower
number
in
terms
of
total
growth
of
the
area.
But
regardless
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
additional
population
growth
in
Associated,
new
construction
of
new
residential
units
for
those
folks
to
live
in
right.
So
so,
like
the
most
important
question
probably
facing
this
is
like:
where
are
those
units
going
to
be
built?
B
Are
they
going
to
be
mostly
built
like
in
areas
that
you
know
are
within
the
existing
developed
landscape
that
can
be
that
either
are
or
could
be
served
by
high
frequency
transit
in
the
future
or
are
in
really
walkable
areas
close?
You
know
so
that
and
that
all
kind
of
gets
to
the
how
much
driving
people
have
to
do
right.
So,
in
a
way
like
the
the
vehicle
miles,
traveled
thing
and
maybe
having
a
goal
around
like
one,
is
here's
what
we
think
is
going
to
happen.
B
If
we
just
kind
of
continue
down
the
path
we're
on
now,
here's
what
realistically,
we
think
it
might
look
like
if
we
focus
growth
in
these
areas
where
it
makes
the
most
sense,
it
seems
like
an
important
it
measures,
a
lot
of
different
good
outcomes
or
bad
outcomes
right
so
I,
just
I'm
curious,
if
we
might
coming
out
of
these
plans,
have
a
specific
goal
of
like
we
want
to
bend
that
curve
and
here's
how
much
realistically
we
we
think
we
can
I
I,
also
think
you
know.
B
I
would
advocate
for
the
idea
that,
as
we
think
about
these
potentially
70
000
new
residents,
the
county,
that
we
really
try
to
come
up
with
specific
goals
as
well.
For
like
exactly
what
percentage
of
those
we
think
we
could
shoot
for
in
terms
of
locating
that
growth
in
areas
that
we
would
consider
like
preferred
growth
areas.
You
know
areas
that
can
be
well
served
by
trans
high
frequency,
Transit
walkable,
you,
you
know,
we
can't
it's
a
it's
a
free
country.
B
Ultimately,
people
can
make
these
decisions
and
need
to
based
on
various
considerations
they
have.
But
what
percentage
of
that
70
000?
Realistically,
do
we
think
we
can
we
can
we
can
supportive
pattern
of
development
where
they
do
live
in
areas
that
are
going
to
be
best
for
kind
of
the
overall
future
land
use
pattern
in
the
county,
so
is
it
half?
Is
it
75?
Is
it
80
percent
I?
Don't
I
don't
know,
but
those
are
some
of
the
questions.
B
I
think
I,
hope,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
can
articulate
better
as
we
kind
of
come
out
of
this,
the
comp
plan
process
and
the
strategic
planning.
G
Process
no
I
think
that's
excellent
train
of
thought
and
that's
why
we
couldn't
just
do
a
vanilla
plan,
it's
sort
of
focused
within
our
borders.
We
really
have
to
look
at
the
regional
approach
and
have
conversations
and
look
at
the
trends
that
are
occurring
in
McDowell
and
Madison
and
Haywood
in
Henderson.
Specifically,
you
know
they've
got
a
massive
development
occurring
down
there
with
the
Taproot
subdivision,
so
it's
really
I.
Look
at
it
too,
as
okay.
What
can
we
reasonably
house
here
versus?
G
Where
are
people
going
to
be
housed
outside
of
the
county
and
then
what
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
Transportation
patterns,
vehicle
miles,
traveled
working
with
our
cogs
specifically
and
not
just
land
of
Sky,
it's
isothermal,
and
what
does
that?
Look
like
so
I
think
I
applaud
your
question,
because
I
think
we
really
really
need
to
work
on
formulating
some
of
those
goals
as
well.
B
The
amount
of
residential
growth
like
in
the
heart
of
Asheville
is
for
the
better
for
our
County
and
really
for
the
region,
because
it's
the
job
center
and
it's
the
commercial
center
on
the
health
care
center.
So
so
you
know,
we
see
a
lot
of
growth
in
the
downtown
area,
but
a
lot
of
it's
like
tourism,
commercial
stuff.
B
We
don't
see
a
lot
of
residents,
residential
growth
I
mean
I
feel
like
this
is
one
of
the
places
where
our
pattern
of
development
is
really
not
what
the
community
wants
to
see
and
doesn't
want
to
see
for
the
future,
but
there's
a
lot
of
Economics
driving
it
in
that
direction.
Now
so
like?
What
can
we
do
to
change
that.
E
B
G
Very
soon
we
were
going
to
have
those
conversations
and
they
will
involve
conversations
like
densification
of
the
former
etj.
What
what
does
additional
development
look
like
in
and
around
our
municipalities
and
I
believe
that
we
will
receive
quite
a
bit
of
feedback
in
terms
of
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
right
answers,
they're
getting
ready
to
be
some
very
tough
conversations
ahead
and
I.
Don't
think
that
there's
any
right
or
wrong
answer
specifically
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
come
to
some
compromise
when
it
comes
to
differing
opinions.
G
G
I
think
that
certainly
has
to
be
talked
about
as
well,
and
since
we're
not
a
water
provider
or
a
sewer
provider,
we've
got
to
make
sure
that
we
get
all
of
our
partners
in
the
room
and
also
I
think
that
when
we
talk
about
things
like
energy
and
things
like
Transportation,
but
it
also
includes
making
sure
that
we
have
ncdot
Duke,
Energy
and
others
at
the
table
as
well,
so
that
we
think
about
not
just
County
goals
but
the
organism
as
a
whole.
In
terms
of
achieving
our
overall
aspirational
goals.
B
All
right,
Commissioners
other
questions,
feedback
on
this
for
now
all
right,
Tim,
Nate,
appreciate
y'all
and
everyone's
working
on
all
these
important
initiatives.
We
do
have
one
other
item.
We
need
to
take
care
before
we
go
into
the
closed
session,
which
is
the
caucus
appointment
for
the
County
Commissioners.
So
I
circulated
an
email
that
we
received
from
I
guess
the
county
commissioner
association
meeting
that
helps
organize
all
this
stuff.
They
pointed
out
that
the
County
Commissioners
need
to
appoint
one
of
our
members
to
attend
an
upcoming
Caucus
meeting.
B
Commissioner
Vice
chair
Edwards
has
expressed
a
willingness
to
do
that
on
our
behalf.
It's
a
virtual
meeting,
I
think
so.
I
wanted
to
see
if
there
was
anyone
else
interested
in
attending.
B
Okay,
well
great,
so
I
think
we
should
vote
on
this
I
think
Mr
Freeze
advised
that
we
do
need
to
actually
formally
vote
to
appoint
our
because
then
that
person
will
vote
on
our
behalf
at
that
county
commissioner
association
meeting.
So
if
there's
consensus,
let's
add
that
to
our
agenda
for
our
regular
meeting
this
evening,
so
I'll
ask
to
add
that
to
the
agenda.
At
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
all
right,
Commissioners
I,
think
we've
gone
through
everything
on
the
agenda.
We
do
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session
Mr
free.
B
B
All
right,
I'll
adjourn
the
briefing
meeting
all
right,
that's
adjourned.
All
right.
Could
you
share
information
on
the
purpose
of
the
closed
session?
We're
gonna.
N
Yes,
sir,
so
this
going
to
closed
session
for
two
matters
asking
for
a
motion
going
closed
session
pursuant
to
143
318
11
8
3,
to
discuss
a
legal
matter
regarding
amikai
brief
to
the
U.S
Supreme
Court
to
join
that
and
second,
and
that
would
be
the
303
creative
U.S
Supreme
Court
number
21-476..
The.
E
J
B
B
Thank
you
all
right.
Is
there
a
motion
to
go
into
closed
session
to
address
the
Personnel
items
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
aye
all
opposed
all
right,
we're
in
closed
session
and
Our
intention
is
to
come
back,
hopefully
before
five
o'clock
or
thereabouts,
to
adjourn
the
closed
session
and
we'll
begin.
The
regular
meeting.