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From YouTube: Commissioners' Regular Meeting (Feb. 15, 2022)
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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners for Feb. 15, 2022.
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Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board?
Today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board
of
commissioners.
At
our
meeting
this
evening,
commissioners,
are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
consent
agenda.
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And
if
you
do
have
nine
people
who
will
give
up
their
time,
then
you
are
allowed
to
have
up
to
10
minutes
for
that
group.
But
anybody
who
gives
up
their
time
will
themselves
not
be
allowed
to
individually
make
public
comments
all
right.
The
first
person
who
has
signed
up
is
melody
shank,
and
I
think
melody
is
requesting
10
minutes
and
has
indicated
that
there
are
nine
people
with
her
who
wish
who
will
give
up
their
time.
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Okay,
as
has
already
been
said,
my
name
is
melody
shank
and
I'm.
The
spokesperson
for
members
of
the
local
coalition
reject
raytheon
avl,
who
are
present
here
today
and
those
who
could
not
be
here.
We
can
come
before
you
today
to
present
a
petition
signed
by
more
than
300
people
that
asks
you
to
reconsider
your
approval
of
the
27
million
dollars
in
tax
incentives
for
pratt
and
whitney
and,
more
importantly,
and
urgently
to
enact
a
moratorium
on
approving
any
new
military
industries
in
buncombe
county.
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Instead,
we
ask
you
to
work
diligently
to
attract
businesses
in
the
green
energy,
green
materials,
manufacturing,
education
and
health
services.
Our
futures
depend
on
the
transition
to
a
more
just,
sustainable
and
locally
based
economy,
which
I
think
is
your
goal
too.
That
transition
requires
that
the
hold
the
military-industrial
complex
has
on
our
our
economy.
Our
domestic
policies,
our
foreign
policy
and
our
culture
must
cease.
The
influence
of
the
military-industrial
complex
cannot
be
addressed
only
at
the
national
level.
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We,
the
people
of
this
county
living
far
from
washington,
need
to
work
to
rebalance
the
priorities
of
this
country
from
the
local
to
the
national
to
the
global
and
away
from
the
war
economy.
We
need
a
diversified
economy
that
favors
a
green
transition
and
the
lives
and
prosperity
of
workers
and
families.
It's
frightening.
When
ceos
of
the
weapons
manufacturers
like
raytheon,
the
parent
company
of
pratt
and
whitney
boast
about
the
profits
they
will
make
when
tensions
between
countries
intensify
in
the
world,
they
see
conflicts
in
conflicts
in
ukraine,
yemen
and
taiwan.
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Just
three
examples
with
dollar
signs
in
their
eyes.
Really
it's
only
about
money
to
them.
In
contrast,
I'm
saddened
to
learn
from
friends
working
in
the
social
service
and
healthcare
arenas
about
how
thin
and
porous
the
safety
net
is,
especially
for
the
most
vulnerable
people
with
disabilities
who
can't
get
services
people
with
urgent
mental
health
challenges.
You
have
to
wait
weeks
for
intervention
teachers
and
medical
care
workers
whose
daily
work
lives
are
untenable.
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I
was
standing
in
bent
creek
river
park
and
a
couple
of
visitors
from
raleigh
asked
me
about
the
new
bridge
over
the
french
broad.
I
explained
that
it
would
be
the
main
access
to
the
pratt
whitney
factory
and
offered
them
some
details
about
the
nature
of
pratt
whitney's
business,
business
and
the
size
of
the
factory.
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I
would
also
like
to
note
that
these
signatures
represent
only
a
fraction
of
people
in
this
county
are
opposed
to
pratt
and
whitney
the
pratt
whitney
deal
and
the
likely
future
development
on
the
biltmore
farms
property.
We
have
been
on
the
street
regularly
over
the
past
15
months
and
received
primarily
positive
responses
to
our
call
to
stop
the
buildup
of
military
industries
in
our
county.
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Other
people
just
don't
know
about
it.
People
don't
know,
don't
want
these
industries
here
and
in
fact,
residents
don't
want
much
of
the
development
that
is
rapid,
rapidly
springing
up
around
us.
We
know
that
the
construction
and
operation
of
the
pratt
whitney
plan
is
a
done
deal.
The
enormous
building
is
well
well
on
its
way
to
being
completed.
We
cannot
stop
it
soon.
The
bridge
will
be
done.
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We
know
that
the
infrastructure
around
the
site
is
also
being
built
up
to
lay
the
foundation
for
more
development
on
the
thousand
acres
that
biltmore
farms
has
opened
for
development
and
that
the
chamber
of
commerce
is
promoting.
The
new
gas
line
will
will
power
the
pratt
and
whitney
plant,
as
will
the
duke
substation.
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Those
minimal
impacts
will
also
be
compounded.
We
know
that
good
paying
jobs
are
important
for
the
region.
We
support
job
development
and
workers
who
will
land
those
jobs.
Raytheon
does
create
jobs,
but
as
a
comparison,
the
green
energy
sector
provides
one
and
a
half
times
as
many
jobs
than
the
military
contracting
center
sector.
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Just
imagine
if
local
educators,
health
care
workers,
front
line,
hospitality
workers,
child
care
workers
made
a
starting
salary
of
55
000,
the
median
salary
of
pratt
and
whitney
workers.
There
are
thousands
of
those
workers
in
those
sectors
here,
not
just
800
what
an
impact
on
the
local
economy
that
would
have
for
people
like
you
and
me.
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The
fact
is,
the
war
corporations
just
have
a
stronger
hold
on
our
federal,
and
maybe
our
local
governments
on
the
priorities
of
our
country,
in
your
consideration
and
deliberation
about
future
development
and
tax
incentives.
Please
also
remember
the
parent
company
of
pratt
whitney
raytheon
technologies
is
the
second
largest
military
contractor
in
the
world.
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Its
main
goal
and
the
main
goal
of
all
war
corporations
is
to
make
money
period
and
it
makes
lots
of
money
bolstered
by
our
federal
state
and
local
tax
dollars.
Raytheon
received
54
billion
dollars
in
military
contracts
alone
in
2019
and
2020
from
the
federal
government.
That's
our
tax
dollars
pratt
and
whitney
received
at
least
10
10
billion
dollars
worth
of
military
contracts
in
those
same
years
again
our
tax
dollars,
who
knows
how
much
they
received
incentives
from
state
and
local
governments
across
the
country.
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Climate
crisis,
just
under
2
million
metric
tons
of
co2,
were
released
by
raytheon
process
and
products
in
2019,
5.2
million
metric
tons
of
co2
were
admitted
that
same
year
by
the
top
12
arms
dealers.
These
data,
also
from
the
cost
of
war
project,
that's
more
than
some
40
small
to
mid-sized
countries.
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The
military
is
not
a
green
industry,
regardless
of
its
claims
about
making
its
products
and
processes
more
energy
efficient
military
contracts.
Their
contractors
are
not
green.
None
of
what
pratt
and
whitney
raytheon
or
general
electric
does
is
green,
and
the
entire
industry
exacerbates
climate
chaos,
something
that
the
commissioners
have
pledged
to
work
to
mitigate
this
well-known
slogan
applies
here.
We
must
think
globally
and
act
locally.
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The
military-industrial
complex
is
very
powerful
in
our
culture.
There
are
numerous
varied
issues
that
play
into
the
influence
it
has
gained
in
our
in
our
nation
and
our
communities.
If
communities
don't
begin
to
say
no
to
the
defense
contractors,
glamorous
deals
who
will-
and
we
all
need
to
learn
more
about
this.
So
we
invite
you
to
attend
a
series
of
webinars
on
the
military
industrial
complex
that
is
being
created
by
a
national
coalition
of
organizations
called
the
war
industries
resistance
network.
And
if
you
go
to
our
website,
raytheon,
reject
raytheon
avl.com.
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You
can
see
information
about
those
those
webinars
we
are
compelled
to
convin
continue
to
express
our
numerous
concerns
about
this
plant
and
to
ask
you
to
seriously
reconsider
what
types
of
industries
you
you
approved
to
be
located
in
the
county.
Our
petition
lists
four
major
concerns,
which
I
trust
you
will
read
and
consider.
We
and
the
petition
signers
strongly
urge
you
to
not
approve
any
more
industries
like
pratt
whitney.
Instead
work
with
the
economic
development
coalition
to
recruit,
truly
environmentally
and
socially
positive
businesses
be
thoughtful
and
transparent.
C
In
your
consideration
of
our
future
projects,
we
would
be
happy
to
talk
with
you
in
in
depth
about
any
of
these
issues
at
a
future
meeting
on
behalf
of
reject
raytheon
avl
and
our
collaborating
organizations.
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
we
present
you
with
these
petitions.
I've
given
them
to
mr
joyner.
Okay,
thank
you.
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D
Growing
my
medical
practice
as
well
as
my
family
in
this
community,
I
have
cared
for
the
patients
of
this
community,
both
in
the
clinic
and
in
the
hospital
with
kovid
I've
had
patients
die
despite
our
best
efforts
to
save
their
lives.
I
have
mourned
with
their
devastated
families
back
in
march
of
2020.
Things
were
scary,
masking
made
sense.
Lockdowns
made
sense.
Now,
two
years
later,
we
have
awesome
vaccines,
awesome,
therapeutics
and
treatment
protocols
in
the
hospital.
D
Over
19
is
now
a
cold
for
the
vast
majority
of
us.
We
need
to
let
people
make
their
own
decisions
masking
has
become
counterproductive.
In
many
instances
it
has
made
outlaws
out
of
people
like
me,
who
are
young,
healthy
and
immunized,
who
are
following
the
science
and
ready
to
let
mass
go
back
to
operating
rooms
and
isolation
units
in
the
hospital
where
they
belong.
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It
made
sense
to
be
cautious
with
our
precious
children.
We
now
know
that
cobit
doesn't
make
our
children
sick
or
die
in
any
significant
way.
Covet
is
a
cold
for
99.9
percent
of
our
children,
making
children
wear
mass
has
been
shown
to
negatively
affect
their
learning
language,
development
and
emotional
intelligence,
which
are
the
skills
we
all
want.
Our
children
to
learn
allowing
mass
to
be
optional
for
children
is
a
small
and
scientifically
based
ass
to
allow
our
children
to
go
back
to
the
way
things
used
to
be.
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E
Thank
you,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
prepared
some
words
to
say
in
about
masks,
but
the
doctor
just
spoke
pretty
eloquently
and
from
a
real
position
of
knowledge
about
that
he's.
Not
the
only
one,
and
I
have
a
lot
of
disagreements
with
some
of
the
members
of
the
board
who
have
chosen
to
respond
to
emails.
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I've
sent
voicing
my
concerns
about
the
masks
and
the
mask
mandates,
also
the
complete
lack
of
recognition
of
natural
immunity
to
this
disease
that
has
alienated
and
uttered
and
caused
discrimination
against
citizens
in
our
county,
our
city
and
in
the
country
and,
as
the
first
speaker
spoke
about
the
raytheon
problem.
I'm
I'm
here
really
to
talk
about
my
concerns
locally,
all
the
way
up
to
the
federal
level,
because
our
federal
government
is
moving
to
infringe
on
our
civil
liberties
and
our
inalienable
rights.
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E
That
is
censorship
of
freedom
of
speech,
and
we
should
all
be
worried
about
that.
I
look
at
what's
happening
in
canada,
where
justin
trudeau
yesterday
basically
declared
himself
de
facto
dictator
through
enacting
the
emergencies
act
martial
law,
he
decides
what
happens
and
I'm
concerned
that
that's
going
to
happen
in
our
country
and
on
a
local
level.
I'm
concerned,
because
this
board
seems
to
follow
the
recommendations
from
our
federal
government,
where
you
can
hear
the
same
kind
of
language
of.
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Well,
I
stood
outside
and
I
hear
people
talk
about
raytheon,
all
the
things
that
needs
to
be
done,
and
I
heard
in
the
pre-meeting
29
million
dollars
here.
Money
spent
here
the
bid
for
the
ball
deal
out.
There
was
two
million
dollars
and
thank
you
for
your
comments,
I'm
not
supposed
to
single
some
person
out,
but
I
appreciate
you
asking
the
questions
you
asked
because
money
just
goes
out
the
door
and
where
does
that
money
come
from?
F
It
comes
from
taxes
and
you
all
just
discussed
something
about
you're
under
bid
by
two
million
dollars.
One
was
storm
water
runoff,
the
other
was
overlooking
some
things
that
needed
to
be
done.
Environmentally,
that's
required,
and
I
remember
when
that
project
was
first
built
and
I
asked
if
they
had
the
404
permit
from
tva,
and
when
I
asked
that
question
you
should
have
seen
the
looks
of
some
of
the
commissioners
and
your
staff
that
hadn't
done
their
diligence.
F
F
Just
like
I
said
if
you
flush
your
commode
in
the
city
limits
of
asheville,
you
are
subsidizing,
affordable,
housing.
I
think
it
might
do
some
good
for
true
accountability
and
this
much
money
and
this
much
money.
I
saw
on
the
consent
agenda
and
I
couldn't
ask
the
question
about
how
much
money
was
involved
in
those
conservation
seasons,
because
I
was
out
of
the
room.
F
F
How
many
houses
can
you
build
in
western
north
carolina
on
these
steep
slopes
without
the
slopes
sliding
into
the
ocean
like
they
are
in
california?
How
many
houses
can
we
build
here
and,
yes,
we
need
some
industry.
Why
here
for
those
folks
with
raytheon,
and
they
have
a
right
to
their
opinion?
Why
here
we
need
some
good
paying
jobs
rather
than
flipping
hamburgers
and
waiting
tables,
and
that's
your
job,
and
I
suggest
you
read
this:
it's
a
good
source
of
information.
A
A
G
All
right
good
afternoon,
we
do
appreciate
you
having
us
on
the
agenda
to
be
able
to
provide
you
all
an
update
on
the
nantahala
pisgah
forest
plan.
I'm
jen
barnhart,
I'm
the
district
ranger
on
the
appalachian
ranger
district,
which
is
we
cover
one
of
six
counties
our
office
is
based
out
of
mars
hill
and
the
northern
portion
of
buncombe
county
is
the
area
that
I
oversee.
G
We
also
have
dave
casey
here,
he's
the
district
ranger
down
on
the
pisgah
ranger
district
out
of
pisgah
forest
north
carolina,
and
that
would
be
the
southern
portion
of
the
county
of
the
pisco
national
forest
that
he
oversees
just
to
help
with
that
part
of
it
so
yeah.
My
main
objective
here
is
to
talk
about
the
forest
plan
update
if
I
can
get
to
some
of
these
other
items
that
would
be
great
but
based
on
the
most
important
is
just
making
sure
you
guys
have
a
good
briefing
and
understanding
of
where
we
are
on
that.
G
Okay,
well,
I'm
going
to
start
off
just
to
give
you
a
couple
little
updates
before
I
get
into
those
slides.
So
basically
the
forest
plan
would
have
came
out.
The
final
plan,
as
well
as
the
final
environmental
impact
statement
on
january
21st.
So
since
that
time
folks
will
have
60
days
to
be
able
to
review
the
forest
plan.
The
final
version,
as
well
as
the
environmental
impact
statement.
G
There
is
only
a
draft
decision
out
on
the
plan
at
this
point
that
james
malonis
would
have
provided
and
is
accessible
online,
and
so
folks
can
object
to
what
we
have
in
the
final
forest
plan
in
those
60-day
period.
They'll
have
standing
if
they
had
written
comments
in
previous
versions
in
scoping
or
during
the
draft
period
of
the
plan,
or
anything
new
that
we've
now
put
into
the
final
plan.
People
can
object
on
that
as
well,
and
they'll
have
standing
what
I
mean.
G
Why
there's
new
things
in
the
plan
since
the
draft,
if
you
would
have
reviewed
that
is
after
careful
consideration.
Looking
at
all
the
comments
that
came
on
the
draft
plan,
as
well
as
many
meetings
with
different
organizations
and
communities,
we
have
james,
has
put
in
a
new
alternative.
So
now
there's
an
alternative
e
and
that's
what
he
has
selected
for
in
his
draft
decision
of
what
would
be
going
forth
and
what
would
be
laid
out
in
the
forced
plan.
G
That's
basically,
once
we
get
over
that
objection
period
and
a
decision,
a
final
decision
is
made.
We
hope
to
be
implementing
the
final
plan
sometime
this
summer
and
that's
where
we
are
focused
on
the
objectives
and
implementing
them
on
the
ground
for
the
next
10
to
20
years
and
a
little
bit
about
foundation
of
the
plan.
We
are
it's
built
on
four
different
pillars
and
I'm
going
to
go
over
those,
but
based
on
everything
that
we
saw
the
collaborative
process
of
the
last
eight
years.
G
G
G
That's
definitely
one
of
the
things
on
the
forefront
and
has
been
for
ever
since
the
exception
of
the
forest
service
with
our
mission
is
making
sure
we're
looking
at
the
health,
not
just
short-term
but
long-term,
looking
at
those
healthy
ecosystems,
really
to
make
sure
we're
having
diverse
forests
as
well
as
provide
that
divorce,
diverse
wildlife
habitat
for
the
long
run,
not
just
for
the
short
run
so
specifically
you're,
going
to
see
some
information
up
there.
Talking
about
accelerating
and
looking
at
are
underrepresented
habitats.
G
So,
just
like
a
lot
of
other
national
forests
in
the
east,
where
a
lot
of
them
were
slicked
off
and
cut
prior
to
the
federal
lands
being
put
into
place.
Most
of
our
stands
are
now
at
a
considerable
similar
age,
so
we
don't
have
as
much
diversity
so
we're
looking
for
more
young
forest
open
forest
old
growth
is
all
in
the
mix.
It's
all
to
be
diverse.
G
G
G
Just
because
again,
as
I
mentioned,
a
portion
of
buncombe
county
when
you're
looking
at
the
northern
part
of
the
buncombe
county
up
where
I
am
and
oversea
is
the
black
mountains.
So
that's
one
geographical
area
and
you
have
a
small
portion
in
the
north
slope,
geographical
area
and
another
portion
in
that
pisgah
led
ledge
geographical
area,
and
if
you
look
at
those
each
geographical
areas
in
the
plan,
each
for
those
four
pillars
of
the
four
themes
that
I
just
went
over
is
laid
out
underneath
each
of
those
geographical
areas.
G
G
And
to
get
to
another
item
here
I
do
want
to-
I
don't
have
a
slide
in
here,
but
one
other
pillar
item
before
we
get
into
wilderness
and
I
and
some
of
the
scenic
designation
and
our
management
areas
that
we
have
in
the
plan
now,
which
is
what
you're
most
likely
concerned
or
wondering
about
where
we
landed
on
those.
We
do
have
a
tier
system.
G
So,
for
instance,
if
you
look
at
the
plan
you're
going
to
see
something
that
says
tier
1
under
objectives,
tier
1
is
what
we're
saying
that
we
can
do
based
on
our
capacity
in
our
budgets.
Tier
two
objectives
in
the
plan
is
based
on.
What
can
we
do
with
partners
either
with
increased
capacity
or
funding
that
we
can
commit
to
to
be
able
to
implement
over
the
next
10
to
20
years?
G
We
had
a
lot
of
things
that
folks
are
hoping
for
us
to
do
and
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
them,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
do
them
with
with
help
of
everyone
else
who
cares
about
their
public
lands
so
moving
into
special
areas,
and
this
is
where
I
want
to
spotlight
for
you
all.
So,
yes,
in
the
plan,
just
as
a
reminder,
we
rec
we
look
at
areas
that
would
be
potential,
have
potential
characteristics
of
wilderness
and
we
recommend
them.
We
are.
G
We
do
not
designate
that
is
on
another
entity
that
wants
to
spearhead
that
and
take
that
to
a
congressional
and
have
them
if
they
want
to
take
it
forth
to
try
to
get
it
put
into
law.
So,
particularly
for
you
guys,
your
special
interest
area
with
the
with
looking
at
recommended
wilderness
is
big
ivy
and
craggy
mountains,
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
next
slide,
we'll
show
you
a
before
and
after
of
what
it
would
have
looked
at
with
our
management
areas.
G
Again,
our
management
areas
are
not
the
same.
We
had
at
least
15,
plus
different
management
areas
laid
out.
It's
much
more
simplified
with
our
management
areas
in
the
new
plan
and
just
to
remind
you
it's
just
like,
if
you're
doing
a
county
plan,
we
have
to
do
zoning
and
figure
out
what
our
focuses
are
in
certain
areas.
It's
the
same
thing
with
the
forest.
G
So
for
craggy
area
we
did
end
up
recommending
expanding
the
wilderness,
and
so
you
can
see
that
lar
that
green,
dark,
green,
spotted
area.
That
is
the
recommended
area,
and
we
also
recommended
in
red
all
around
it.
That's
the
special
interest
area
and
also
the
four
four
scenic
area,
so
we
expanded
it
to
the
amount
that
we
did
just
based
on.
G
Looking
at
a
lot
of
other
factors,
we
were
if
we
were
going
to
look
to
make
it
even
larger
than
that
we
were
going
to
have
to
take
out
existing
roads
currently
that
a
lot
of
folks
rely
on
to
to
get
to
some
very
important
busy
attractions
and
trail
heads
and
also
it
would
limit
mountain
biking
in
that
area
or
opportunities
for
mountain
biking
going
into
the
future.
So,
to
help
with
that,
we
did
at
least
go
ahead
and
put
in
the
forest
scenic
area.
G
We
designated
that
we
already
have
a
few
throughout
the
nanohill
and
pisgah
and
we
just
added
this
area
as
the
four
scenic
area.
That's
that
whole
pink
red
area,
and
it
actually
goes
underneath
where
the
wilderness
green
blob,
is
as
well
and
then
the
yellow
area
that
you
see
down
to
the
south,
that's
interface,
which
is
we
that's
shope
creek.
If
you
all
aren't
aware
of
that
area,
that's
a
very,
very
busy
busy
trail
area
which
are
actually
all
user
created
trail.
They
aren't
existing
forest
service
trails.
Many
think
they
are.
G
Someone
went
in
there
and
built
a
bunch
of
trails
illegally
and
even
though
they
aren't
our
formal
trails
at
this
point,
we're
recognizing
and
went
ahead
and
indicated
that
as
interface.
Just
because
we
know
that's
a
really
highly
concentrated
recreation
area
and
it's
it
won't
change
and
the
new
plan.
We
will
be
looking
at
collaborative
trail
planning
and
we
are
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
actually
what
our
existing
user
created
trails.
How
can
we
make
them
sustainable
which?
G
G
All
right
I'm
going
to
skip
in
out
of
that,
just
because
I
did
talk
quickly
about
those
and,
of
course,
economics.
That's
another
big,
crucial
piece.
When
you
look
at
our
plan,
we
know
local
economies
rely
on
the
public
lands,
the
national
forest
land
and
that's
an
overall
map
that
should
be
in
your
packets
and
then,
if
I
can
get
to
tropistrum
fred.
G
Yes,
we
had
issues
at
coleman,
boundary,
big,
ivy,
road
and
stony
fork.
They
are
still
closed.
We
did
hear
that
funding
is
definitely
assured
that
we
will
be
receiving
funding
north
carolina
for
tropical
storm
fred.
It
was
up
for
debate
and
we
did
find
out
last
week
that
we
will
get
funding
doesn't
mean
we
can
get
our
roads
fixed
and
up
and
running
lickety-split.
G
You
know,
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
that
from
engineering
in
our
national
environmental
policy
act
that
we
need
to
do
for
environmental
assessments,
but
the
good
news
is
that
the
funding
is
there.
It
would
be
a
different
story
if
the
funding
wasn't
coming
to
us.
So
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
real,
quick
and
I
know
dave
didn't
get
to
really
come
up
here,
but
the
last
thing
is:
we
have
been
selected
for
the
u.s
capitol
christmas
tree
in
north
carolina.
G
A
G
A
G
60
days
from
that
point,
okay,
and
then
you
can
submit
them
and
everything
is
found
online.
On
our
website
national
forest
north
carolina
forest
service.
You
can
go
in
there
and
everything
that
you've
gotten
in
your
packets
or
if
you
want
to
digest
a
2000
page
plan,
please
do
or
if
you're
really
looking
for
something
particular.
Please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
to
me
and
I
can
help
direct
you
exactly
where
it
would
be
found.
A
Okay,
so
as
you're
super
aware,
I'm
sure
you
know
the
public
interest
in
our
community
in
the
craggy
mountains
and
the
big
ivy
area
is
like
you
know,
super
super
high
and
we've
all
been
to
some
of
the
community
forums
out
there
where
rooms
are
filled.
People
have
you
know
this
intense
connection
to
this.
You
know
really
beautiful
part
of
the
pisgah
national
forest,
so
I
think
we've
just
kind
of
started
hearing
some
of
the
feedback
from
the
community
around
the
draft
plan.
A
That's
come
out
and
I
think
that
you
know
there
is
appreciation
for
some
of
the
expansion
of
the
the
proposed
scenic
designation
in
big
ivy,
but
there's
definitely
parts
of
it
that
we're
hearing
a
lot
of
concerns
about
as
well.
I
think
I
think
the
main
ones
are
around
that
some
substantial
portions
of
the
big
iv
area
in
pisces
national
forest
have
been
placed
into
a
management
category
that
actually
allows
the
most
extensive
amount
of
commercial
logging
of
any
of
the
management
designations
on
the
national
forest.
A
I
have
not
read
this
all
myself,
this,
I'm
just
sort
of
relaying
part
of
what
you
know
we're
hearing
from
some
of
our
constituents
so
anyway,
I'm
sure
this
is
not
new
information
for
you.
I'm
sure
you
hear
from
these
folks
a
lot,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
part
of
what
I
think
we're
hearing
from
our
constituents
too,
and
in
terms
of
some
of
the
concerns
about
the
draft.
The
draft
management
plan.
G
Obviously
we
have
public
scoping.
We
have
a
an
interdisciplinary
team
that
has
to
examine
and
analyze
anything
that
goes
on
before
anything
would
be
implemented.
At
this
point,
when
you
look
at
the
plan,
it
provides
those
opportunities.
Remember
diversity
of
an
ecosystem
is
really
important
for
the
long
term
of
the
health
and
there's
areas
where
we're
we're
no
longer
have
active
management
in
them
that
we
did
have
in
in
previous
times,
depending
if
you
look
at
the
long
term
across
the
nana
hill
and
the
pisgah.
A
So,
commissioners,
are
there
any
other
questions
right
now?
I
guess
I
was
gonna,
you
know
not.
Everybody
pays
close
attention
to
all
the
items
that
get
put
on
our
agenda.
My
hunch
is
that
if
folks
were
aware
that
we
were
going
to
be
talking
about
the
big
ivy
area
at
the
meeting
tonight,
there'd
probably
actually
be
a
lot
more
folks
here.
A
A
Not
everybody
sees
these
issues,
of
course,
in
the
exact
same
way
so
anyway,
and
of
course
they
can
do
that
during
public
comment
or
we
could.
You
know
invite
them
to
kind
of
do
a
short
presentation,
but
if
we're,
if
the
public
comment
period
is
open,
it
seems
like
now
is
the
right
time
for
us
to
to.
A
These
are
all
designations
that
require
acts
of
congress
to
to
put
into
effect
in
order
to
make
them
permanent.
Some
of
they
can
be
done
administratively
in
the
management
plans,
but
there
might
also
be
some
recommendations
that,
if,
if,
if
we
wanted
to
consider
endorsing
any
of
those
designations
that
require
federal
approval
as
well,
so
that
we
could
let
our
state
members
of
congress
and
our
u.s
senators
know
that
we
are
supportive
of
some
of
these
protections.
A
Of
areas
on
pisgah
or
nantahala
national
forest,
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
orientation
on
this,
and
maybe
we
might
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
time
on
this,
maybe
even
at
a
briefing
meeting
to
hear
from
some
of
the
other
folks
who
have
kind
of
worked
in
these
on
these
issues
for
for
a
long
time.
So
any
other
questions
for
the
district
rangers
who
are
here
with
us
this
evening.
H
G
Yeah
federal
designation,
which
has
definitely
certain
parameters
that
we
follow
how
we
manage
that
area
specifically,
so
you
wouldn't
have
anything
motorized,
mechanical
road,
no
roads,
those
would
all
would
need
to
be
removed.
It's
supposed
to
be
as
if
it's
been
untouched
by
man.
You
look
at
visuals.
You
look
at
sound
all
those
types
of
things
get
evaluated
to
see
if
we
would
recommend
it
as
that.
G
Yeah-
and
it's
again
just
depends
on
your
perspective
of
your
protection,
so
it's
really
meant
to
provide
that
experience
to
the
person
that
really
is
wanting
to
have
experience
before
it's
hard
to
do
that
now,
before
man
came
and
things
got
developed,
I
mean
it.
That's
the
the
overall
goal
of
it,
the
intrinsic
value
of
having
a
place
such
as
that.
But
yes,
it
does
in
terms
of
restrictions
and
how
active
management
could
occur.
You
you
would
not
be
able
to
do
any
of
those
types
of
things.
G
Even
now
that
it's
been
recommended
as
wilderness,
we
cannot
do
things
there
that
would
infringe
on
its
eligibility
or
recommendation
in
the
future.
So
at
this
point,
yes,
it's
in
that
standing,
but
until
it's
written
into
law
that
it's
technically
really
is
federal
designation.
That's
when
we
would
implement
further
of
anything
that
we
were
hoping
to
increase
that
wilderness
characteristic
to
meet
the
what
parameters
there
are
for
it
to
be
when
it's
federally
designated.
A
All
right
again,
ranger
barnhart,
ranger
casey.
We
appreciate
you
all
being
here
tonight.
We
love
our
national
forest.
We
know
you
know
we
hear
from
the
community
a
lot.
We
know
you
all
do
too.
So
we
appreciate
you
taking
time
to
brief
the
commissioners
this
evening
and
about
these
really
important
lands
that
y'all
are
interested
with
take
care
of.
So
thanks
for
being
here
tonight,.
G
A
J
Excuse
me
we're
going
to
review
the
general
fund
budget
activity
for
revenues
and
expenses,
we're
going
to
review
the
solid
waste
activity
for
revenues
expenses.
Also,
this
information
is
through
december
31st
2020,
which
is
50
through
the
year
at
the
end
of
the
second
quarter
for
2022.
You
would
assume
that.
H
J
Would
be
at
50
of
budget,
however,
due
to
the
timing
of
revenue
collection,
payment
disbursements?
That
is
not
necessarily
the
case.
The
majority
of
property
tax
revenues
come
in
november
through
january,
and
then
additionally,
sales
tax
has
that
three
month
lag
so
transactions
that
occurred
in
september
are
not
going
to
be
dispersed
to
us
until
december.
So
knowing
the
backstory,
let's
look
at
what
happened
so
general
fund
budget
of
revenues
or
367.5
million
and
actual
revenues
were
220.9
or
60.1
percent
of
the
budget.
J
J
J
The
only
one
that
really
kind
of
stands
out
would
be
transfers,
and
that
is
because
we
do
a
lot
of
the
interfund
transfers.
At
the
beginning
of
the
year.
You
can
see
general
government
public
safety.
Everything
is
well
below
budget
human
services
is
well
below
budget,
and
then
education
is
at
53.6,
which
is
where
it
was
exactly
last
year,
looking
at
this
by
category.
So
this
breaks
it
up
by
your
operating
expense,
salary,
benefits
program
that
sort
of
thing
the
expenditures
are
trending
in
the
right
way,
and
everything
is
looking
really
well.
J
K
J
A
couple
factors
at
play:
there-
one
is
the
law
that
went
into
effect
last
year.
I
believe
it
was
that
the
internet
revenues
we're
getting
tax,
so
we're
receiving
a
lot
more
revenue
that
way
and
then
consumer
confidence
has
been
higher,
so
people
are
spending
money
and
I
applaud
that
come
to
buncombe
and
spend
money
and
see
your
beautiful
place.
It's
a
great
thing
to
do.
L
J
Unbalanced,
well,
we
are
still
waiting
for
the
auditors
to
wrap
up
the
audit,
but
the
calculation
that
we
had
initially
estimated
around-
I
think
we
told
you
about
8
million-
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
significantly
higher
than
that.
As
far
as
the
transfer
to
the
capital
fund,
I
don't
want
to
give
you
a
number,
because,
as
soon
as
I
give
you
a
number
it'll
be
wrong,
but
it'll
be
significantly
higher
and
we
will
be
bringing
that
transfer
to
you.
J
K
J
Yeah,
absolutely
it
did
go
live
in
may
last
year.
We
have
several
participants
now
in
that
pool,
and
there
are
several
other
counties
and
cities
that
are
in
the
process
of
joining
and
they're,
going
through
the
same
process
where
they
have
to
go
before
the
board
and
get
the
resolution
passed
as
of
last
month.
We
were
over
100
million
in
deposits,
so
it's
grown
significantly.
K
J
And
then,
as
far
as
our
regular
investment
portfolio,
which
you
all
received,
we
have
20
million
in
there,
and
rates
are
starting
to
tick
up
as
people
anticipate
the
fed
making
a
move
on
interest
rates,
so
we're
seeing
those
short-term
rates
really
pick
up.
In
fact,
we
picked
up
a
couple
of
treasuries
just
today
or
over
one
percent
for
seven
months,
so
as
it
doesn't
sound
like
much,
but
that's
huge,
considering
where
we
were.
A
M
A
So
we
can
reach
out
to
them
and
put
them
in
contact
with
you.
And,
of
course
any
members
of
the
public
could
come
to
to
share
their
comments
as
well.
But
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
just
maybe
invite
them
to
come
in
and
share
their
perspectives,
as
they
have
done
a
couple
of
times
before
so
sure,
and
it
sounds
like
it
started.
A
If
it
started
january
21st,
we
probably
have
until
around
that
date
in
march,
if
we
were
going
to
actually
submit
any
comments
to
the
forest
service
on
the
forest
plane,
which
is
not
an
uncommon
thing
to
do.
A
lot
of
a
lot
of
counties
that
have
forest
service
lands
or
park
service
lands
routinely
comment,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
management
of
those
lands
within
their
within
their
own
counties.
So
all
right.
M
A
Sounds
good
we'll
reach
out
to
them
and
we'll
we'll
share
their
contact
information
all
right
anything
else,
avril,
very
good!
All
right!
We
come
to
new
business.
There's
no
old
business
first
item
is
a
resolution
declaring
the
county's
intent
to
reimburse
itself
for
capital
expenditures
incurred
with
various
county
and
school
projects,
and
don
warren
is
back
for
this.
J
J
We
we
have
the
resolution
written
and
we
anticipate
that
we
will
issue
56
million
in
bonds
and
then,
by
the
time
we
issue
the
bonds.
We
anticipate
that
we
will
have
30
million
dollars
in
expenditures
that
we
need
to
be
reimbursed
for,
and
these
are
for
school
capital
projects
primarily
and
some
of
the
county
capital
projects
so
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
that.
N
N
O
So
I
am
here
this
evening
to
request
this
board,
adopt
the
resolution
you
have
before
you
and
execute
a
contract
for
the
subtitle
d.
Excuse
me:
landfill
sale,
7
expansion
and
the
c
d
landfill
phase,
7
expansion.
With
the
sergeant
corporation
in
september
of
last
year,
we
began
contractor
selection
for
this
project
with
a
pre-qualification
process.
O
It
was
determined
a
request
for
qualifications
should
be
used
due
to
the
specialized
nature
with
this
project
and
the
desire
to
have
a
firm
with
expertise
not
only
in
building
new
landfill
sales,
but
with
experience
with
mountainous
terrain
also,
the
rfq
was
advertised
and
contractor
qualification.
Submittals
were
evaluated
by
a
review
committee
to
be
considered
pre-qualified
for
this
project,
proposing
contractors
had
to
meet
minimum
scoring
criteria,
based
primarily
on
firm
experience
and
similar
landfill
construction
projects
completed.
O
A
A
P
Certainly
so,
with
the
face
covering
requirement
expected
to
expire
tomorrow
february
16th,
public
health
will
now
move
to
providing
general
public
health
recommendations
at
this
time,
given
the
rapid
and
continued
and
expected
to
be
continued
decline
in
cases,
transmission
and
hospitalization.
So
just
a
reminder
from
the
briefing
we
did
have:
67
percent
decrease
in
the
case
rate
just
in
the
last
month,
and
we
continue
to
see
a
drop
in
the
percent
positivity.
A
All
right,
thank
you
very
much,
miss
saunders
and,
as
we
discussed
in
the
briefing
meeting
earlier
today,
the
commissioner's
previous
policy
adopted
back
in
january,
set
the
indoor
mask
requirement
to
expire
on
february
16th.
So
that
is
already
in
motion.
So
there's
actually
no
additional
commission
action
needed
for
that
to
go
into
effect.
So
just
a
kind
of
a
reminder
of
the
process
and
earlier
in
the
briefing
we
actually
talked
about
possibly
voting
to
rescind
the
local
emergency
order.
A
But
mr
freu
looked
into
it
further
and
determined
that
actually
there's
no
commission
action
needed
on
that
either.
It
also
naturally
expires
if
no
additional
action
is
taken.
So
there's
actually
no
commission
a
vote
needed
in
order
to
concur
with
the
recommendation
from
the
public
health
office
of
the
county.
A
You
know
I
would
just
I
just
make
a
couple
of
comments.
You
know.
I
think
this
there's
been
a
number
of,
of
course,
really
difficult
decisions
around.
What's
the
best
way
to
respond
to
this
really
unprecedented
health
crisis
we've
had
in
our
country
over
the
last
18
months,
and
I
think
we've
tried
to
do
everything
we
can
to
focus
on
trying
to
you
know,
protect
members
of
our
community,
especially
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
our
senior
citizens,
those
who
have
particular
health
vulnerabilities
to
this,
this
highly
contagious
virus-
and
so
you
know,
we've.
A
J
A
A
Now
too,
you
know
I
have
looked
forward
to
the
day
when
I
felt
like
we
could
responsibly
allow
the
indoor
mass
policy
to
to
expire,
and
so
I'm
in
support
of
the
recommendations
from
the
public
health
department,
and
I
appreciate
all
the
folks
who
have
taken
time
to
talk
to
us.
You
know
many
people
there's
a
wide
variety
of
viewpoints
on
this
feel
strongly
about
it
on
both
sides,
and
I
appreciate
everyone
sharing
their
points
of
view.
A
And
so,
if
businesses
or
organizations
wish
to
keep
in
a
mask
policy
in
effect
for
their
own
facilities,
they
have
every
right
to
do
that,
and
we
expect
a
number
of
businesses
and
organizations
in
the
community
will
choose
to
do
that
at
least
for
some
period
of
time,
and
we
fully
support
that,
and
we
ask
people
to
respect
that.
If
it's
a.
If
you
just
feel
strongly
against
that,
then
we
would
encourage
you
to
just
choose
other
places
to
go
until
that
that
policy
is
lifted.
A
A
A
For
the
time
being,
I
would
also
share
that
the
decisions
around
the
schools
and
the
policies
they
have
related
to
masks
is
a
decision
that's
made
by
the
school
boards,
so
the
decisions
made
by
the
county
commission
do
not
apply
to
the
schools.
The
school
boards
have
the
responsibility
for
setting
the
policies
as
they
relate
to
the
public
schools.
M
M
I
do
want
to
take
this
time
to
say
thank
you
for
the
staff
that
has
been
working
throughout
this
pandemic.
They
have
really
done
a
yearman's
job,
in
my
opinion,
especially
stacy,
and
her
staff
at
the
health
and
services.
I
see
taylor
jones
in
the
office
with
the
emergency
services,
so
I
do
want
to
say.
Thank
you
a
tremendous.
Thank
you
heartfelt
thank
you
for
that
staff
that
has
been
carrying
the
load
for
the
last
two
years.
I
I
I
wish
it
would
have
been.
You
had
the
option
instead
of
a
mandate
because
as
a
small
business
owner,
the
mandate
did
not
work
for
us.
We
had
a
lot
of
ill
customers.
We
had
people
on
both
sides,
so
I
understand
that.
But
I'm
glad
this
is
coming
to
an
end.
I
really
hate
what
has
happened.
We've
got
had
a
lot
of
people
sick.
I
I
think
eventually
we're
all
going
to
have
covet
sometime
or
another,
and
I
know
staff
has
took
a
bad
rap.
I've
took
a
bad
rap.
I've
heard
it
as
much
one
way
as
I
have
the
other,
but
I
think
long
as
we'll
be
smart
and
do
everything
this
is
going
to
work
out
and
I'm
just
glad
that
we
can
go
on
with
it
and
hope
businesses
can
make
the
right
decisions
what
they
do
and
I
support
anyone
that
wants
to
wear
it
in
a
business.
I
A
A
Q
A
We
know
people
have
heard
it
a
million
times,
but
we
would
just
really
encourage
folks
who,
who
may
not
have
been
vaccinated
yet
to
do
so
and
also
specifically
for
folks
who
have
already
been
vaccinated
and
have
had
the
two
shots
to
really
consider
getting
the
third
shot.
If
you
haven't
already,
we
are
seeing
both
locally
and
from
across
the
country
that
getting
the
third
shot
provides
significant
additional
protection.
A
Only
a
very
tiny
percentage
of
the
folks
who
are
being
becoming
so
seriously
ill
they
require
hospitalization,
have
had
all
three
shots,
so
we
want
to.
I
really
encourage
people
to
consider
that
if
you
haven't
gotten
it
already
all
right
again,
no
actions
needed
so
miss
sanders.
Thank
you
again
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
as
oprah
said,
thank
you
to
you
and
everybody
on
your
team
for
great
work.
A
B
A
A
N
A
R
I
think
yesterday
there
was
a
check-in
meeting
with
the
introduction
team
for
that
with
the
city
last
week
and
they
are
going
to
make
their
appointment
on
february
the
22nd
last
week
or
the
last
meeting
the
board
proposed
that
we
do
interviews
on
the
21st,
but
they
have
backed
up
their
time
frame.
So
they
say
as
long
as
we
have
appointments
done
by
march.
A
R
We
could
it
just
depends
on
how
much
time
we
have
and
how
many
people
y'all
want
to
interview,
because,
what's
going
to
happen,
they're
going
to
make
their
selection
of
the
six
individuals,
so
it's
going
to
cut
down
a
list
even
further,
and
the
board
already
has
the
information
for
the
other
individuals.
So,
if
you're
not
going
to
want
to
interview
all
of
those,
you
can
cut
that
down
before
we
even
get
to
the
interview
process.
R
D
A
A
R
And
just
a
reminder:
those
are
targeted
by
certain
categories:
they're,
criminal
justice,
education,
economic
development,
health
care
and
housing.
Those
are
the
five
categories
and
that
information
that
I
forwarded
to
you
has
that
information
in
there.
So,
but
those
are
the
five
categories
that
we're
trying
to
get
individuals
that
are
subject
matter.
Experts.
H
R
A
I
think
we
should.
I
think
you
should
probably
talk
about
this
at
the
briefing
meeting.
This
is
kind
of
complicated,
so
we
should
we
should
talk,
so
we
don't
want
to
put
this
off
to
the
end
of
like
our
next
meeting.
Let's
talk
about
it
at
the
briefing
meeting
and
come
up
with
a
game
plan
for
who
to
interview,
and
we
might
need
to
call
a
special
meeting
for
the
interviews
or
maybe
once
we've
narrowed
it
down.
A
A
The
next
meeting
of
the
buncombe
county
commission
will
be
on
march
1st
at
3
p.m.
That'll
be
the
commissioner's
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.
On
march
1st
at
5
pm,
the
county
commissioners
will
hold
the
regular
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn.