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Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners from Dec. 4, 2018. To view the meeting agenda, or future meeting agendas, please visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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B
B
B
We
have
with
us
our
former
County
Commission
Chairman
David
Gantt
is
with
us
this
evening,
chairman
Gann.
It's
always
great
to
see
you
and
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
I
also
see
that
we
have
the
mayor
of
Black,
Mountain,
Don
Collins
with
us
as
well
mayor.
It's
great
to
see
you
as
well,
and
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
So
before
we
go
further.
I
want
to
ask
County,
Commission,
County,
Commissioner,
Ellen
frost.
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So
we
just
want
to.
We
just
want
to
acknowledge
that,
commissioner,
that
commissioner
Ellen
Frost's
term
ended
yesterday
I
think
was
the
last
official
day.
So
we
were
all
all
of
us
have
worked
with
Ellen,
except
for
Amanda
who's.
Just
our
newest
member
of
the
Commission
I've
worked
with
Ellen
for
many
years
on
the
County
Commission.
B
D
D
Commissioners
could
have
an
idea
like
the
families,
Justice,
Center
and
staff
would
make
it
happen,
and
you
continue
to
amaze
me
and
George.
Thank
you
for
coming
on
board
and
righting
the
ship.
It
we
got
sailing
on
a
good
course,
but
it
has
been
humbling,
but
I
have
to
tell
you
something
anecdotally,
so
Thanksgiving
day
to
be
candid,
it
was
a
partisan
Thanksgiving
and
one
of
my
really
good
friends
said:
what's
it
like
to
serve
with
them
and
I
said
who
are
you
talking
about?
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They
said
well,
the
Republicans
and
I
said
it
has
been
such
an
honor
and
I
said.
I
will
tell
you
this
commission
cares
so
deeply
for
the
citizens
of
Buncombe
County.
It's
overwhelming,
and
you
know,
we've
gone
through
a
lot.
We've
accomplished
a
lot
and
you
know
I
can't
thank
chairman
Gant
enough
for
his
mentorship
and
what
he's
done
and
what
he
means.
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But
when
you
look
around
and
what
wasn't
here
before
some
of
us
started,
and
now
it
is,
it's
all
become
a
reality
and
Frannie.
You
took
over
the
helm
after
Cameron
Gant
and
did
an
extraordinary
job
and
continue
to
do
so.
Buncombe
County
is
in
great
shape
and
I'm
honored
at
your
friendships
and
continue
to
talk
and
carry
on
the
amazing
work.
You
did.
Thank
you.
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To
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board,
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office,
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Are
there
any
items
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member?
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B
B
In
favor,
please
say:
aye
all
right,
any
opposed
all
right.
Those
are
added
to
the
consent
agenda
and
there's
a
request
to
remove
the
resolution
authorizing
the
acceptance
of
applications
and
approval
of
housing
projects
for
the
affordable
housing
services
program
from
the
consent
agenda
and
just
interest
for
clarification.
Commissioner
fryer
did
you
want
to
remove
it
from
the
consent
agenda,
or
was
there
just
a
question
about
it?.
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G
A
B
Okay,
all
right
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
remainder
of
the
consent
agenda
and
to
follow
the
remainder
of
the
agenda
as
advertised
so
move
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposed
all
right.
It
passes.
I
also
I
forgot
to
mention
a
please.
If
you've
got
a
cell
phone
with
you,
please
turn
it
off
or
turn
it
to
mute.
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H
How
are
you
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
again
to
speak
with
you
about
something
positive,
that's
going
on
in
the
Social
Work
Department
and
Health,
and
Human
Services
first
I'd
like
to
just
read
the
nomination
for
the
Innovation
Award
and
then
we're
going
to
play
a
short
video
that
I
think
will
kind
of
speak
for
itself
in
how
special
this
program
truly
is
to
our
community.
The
Center
for
Integrative
Health
established
this
new
awards
program,
the
Innovation
Awards
actually
this
year.
H
These
awards
recognize
innovation
and
services
and
programming
to
increase
an
integrated
whole
person.
Approaches
to
care
in
the
nomination
that
we
submitted
is
that
Buncombe
County
Department
of
Health
and
Human
Services
and
family
preservation,
services
of
North
Carolina
joined
forces
to
implement
a
sobriety,
treatment
and
recovery
team.
H
The
system
of
care
approach
for
start
incorporates
multiple
theories
and
principles
that
guide
interventions
at
different
points
in
time.
These
include
attachment
theory,
self-determination,
theory,
crisis
theory,
readiness
to
change,
theory,
network
for
improvement
of
addiction,
treatment
change
and
neuro
rehabilitation
principles.
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And
so
the
start
team
was
awarded
the
innovations
award
this
year
and
we
actually
have
a
our
co-workers
through
family
preservation.
Services
are
going
to
be
accepting
that
award
this
week
at
a
conference.
So
we
wanted
to
acknowledge
the
work
of
the
start
team
and
we
want
to
share
this
video
with
you
that
should
truly
describes
and
act
of
this
model.
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I
K
A
person
in
long-term
recovery
and
I
have
personal
experience
with
the
Department
of
Social
Services
I
was
separated
from
my
son
due
to
my
inability
to
stop
using
I,
didn't
really
have
any
place
to
turn
or
a
foundation
to
like
go
waffles.
So
by
the
time
I
got
separated
from
my
son.
He
was
put
into
six
different
placements
through
the
process
of
me
trying
to
get
better
and
it
took
a
while
for
me
to
get
better
honestly.
J
J
K
J
L
L
Opening
each
of
these
start
social
worker
mentor
teams
share
a
caseload
and
work
intensively
with
families
to
support
a
parent's
journey
into
recovery,
minimize
or
eliminate
separation
when
possible,
foster
positive
attachments
between
children
and
parents,
while
their
parent
is
supported
through
wraparound
services
in
the
community,
such
as
trauma
focused
therapy,
safe
and
sober
housing,
mental
health
and
substance
use
treatment.
Our
aim
is
that
in
less
than
one
week
the
parent
begins
treatment
once
engaged.
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The
start
team
continues
to
support
the
parent
through
their
treatment
journey,
to
ensure
that
they
don't
fall
through
some
of
the
common
cracks
in
the
system.
The
County
Start
program
works
with
a
diverse
group
of
community
stakeholders.
They
meet
regularly
to
improve
our
ability
to
address
co-occurring
addiction
and
child
maltreatment.
The
start
model
holds
hope
for
families.
We
work
with
the
many
success
stories
we
have
witnessed
proved
to
us
many
times
over.
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K
J
K
Of
the
things
that
happened
when
I
was
reunified
with
my
son
was
I
stood
in
a
grocery
store
and
I
remember
just
standing
there
and
crying
because
I
didn't
even
know
how
to
shop
or
what
to
shop.
For
so
you
have
to
relearn
everything
you
know,
and
if
you
have
people
that
support
you
in
doing
that,
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
that
to
happen.
My.
K
K
G
G
H
H
They
all
work
with
families
every
every
day
to
to
do
this
very,
very
difficult
work,
and
so
I
just
want
to
thank
them
so
much
for
what
they've
achieved
so
far
and
what
I
know
is
possible
through
this
model,
for
our
County
I
also
just
quickly
want
to
say
how
privileged
I
feel
to
work
for
a
Buncombe
County.
We
are
the
only
County
in
this
state
that
has
adopted
this
model.
It
is.
H
So
far,
the
Start
program
has
graduated
15
families
through
the
program
with
21
parents
within
those
15
families
going
from
being
substance,
active
substance,
users
to
a
state
of
recovery,
and
so
I
had
the
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
a
graduation.
Last
week
and
I
heard
another
father
say
very
similar
things
to
this
father
and
I.
Think
we're
just
going
to
repeat
that
six
over
and
over
again
so
I
truly
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
here
to
acknowledge
the
program
and
appreciate
all
of
the
support
that
you
all
provide.
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M
So
let
me
I
want
to
share
a
few
things
with
you
this
evening
and
just
really
have
a
discussion
with
you
and
then
we'll
talk
about
where
we'll
go
to
from
here.
But
it
starts
with
working
on
general
statute
105
to
86,
which
sets
forth
the
time
for
general
reappraisal
for
all
counties
in
this
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
which
says
that
we
are
on
an
optimal
cycle,
which
is
every
eight
years,
is
the
minimum
for
doing
a
reappraisal
in
every
county
in
North,
Carolina,
Buncombe,
asthma.
M
A
lot
of
counties
in
North
Carolina
now
are
on
a
four
year
cycle.
We
found
that
to
be
the
most
effective
for
the
citizens
for
the
county
alike,
so
we
did
the
reappraisal
last
January
of
2017,
so
I'm
going
to
share
a
few
things
with
you
on.
Why,
then,
I'm
here
back
here
this
soon
to
talk
to
you
about
this
one
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
to
you
and
105
to
86
for
time
for
reappraisal.
That
was
added
a
few
years
ago
as
a
mandatory
advancement.
M
So
let
me
share
a
little
information
with
you.
Then,
while
we're
there
January
of
2017
reported
from
the
North
Canton
Department
of
Revenue,
we
had
a
sales
ratio
median
of
98.7
T
3%
with
coefficient
aspersion
to
fourteen
point,
four
nine
January,
then
again,
at
the
end
of
January
of
2018,
we
received
a
sales
ratio
study.
Ninety
one
point:
six:
seven
percent
eighteen
point:
five:
two
Co
D,
so
we
went
from
ninety
seven
down
to
ninety
one
and
one
year.
M
Our
third
quarter,
internal
sales
ratio
study
now
shows
us
that
we
are
near
eighty
six
percent
internally
in
the
market.
So
what
that
means
to
use
that
there
is
a
good
possibility
that,
when
the
sales
ratio
study
comes
out
for
2020,
which
will
be
April,
that
we
will
be
below
the
eighty-five
percent
mark
and
we'll
get
put
on
notice
to
conduct
a
general
reappraisal.
M
North
Carolina
Department
revenue
also
has
recently
developed
their
own
internal
reappraisal
standards.
Now
you
hear
me
talk
a
lot
about
the
Newark
on
the
Department
of
Revenue.
So
what
you
need
to
understand?
What
kind
of
apartment
revenue
is
the
oversight
for
all
tax
departments
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina?
They
oversee
that
we
are
doing
things
equitably.
The
laws
are
applied,
they're
fairly
and
they're
applied
equally
across
the
state,
so
they
do
monitor
what
we
do
so
recently
they
developed
their
own
reappraisal
standards,
which
asks
the
county
to
do
a
few
things.
M
If
the
sales
ratio
falls
below
ninety
percent,
then
they're
asking
that
we
consider
a
general
reappraisal,
they've
also
put
in
the
standards
now
that
they
want
us
to
measure
the
quality
of
our
data.
The
quality
of
the
data
will
depend
up
on
the
top
of
reappraisal
that
they
recommend
that
the
county
do.
I
will
tell
you
that
we
finished
that
quality
of
data.
M
The
next
thing
is
now
in
the
standards:
it's
that
the
county
assessor
submit
to
the
Norco
Department
of
Revenue
24
months
in
advance
of
the
next
General
reappraisal.
So
that
means,
if
you
decide
you
want
to
advance
it
to
January
2021,
then
my
written
plan
to
the
Department
of
Revenue
would
be
submitted
in
January
of
2019,
so
that
puts
us
into
the
a
little
bit
of
a
time
crunch
before
we're
going.
M
The
other
thing
that
then
I
will
tell
you
ask
you
to
consider,
as
we
often
don't
talk
about
as
the
sales
ratio
reduces
as
we
go
into
time,
and
we
get
back
to
86%
once
we
drop
below
90%
the
statute
says
for
public
service.
Public
service
entities
are
appraised
to
100%
of
market
value
each
year,
public
service
being
Duke
Energy,
your
Airlines
train
railroad,
these
type
things
that
Department
revenue
assesses
100
percent
each
year.
M
However,
when
the
when
the
ratio
falls
below
90
percent
in
the
fourth
year
after
the
general
reappraisal,
public
service
company
is
getting
an
adjustment
in
that
value.
So
what
I
ask
you
to
consider
there
is
that
if
you,
if
you
don't
stay
on
that
cycle
and
keep
the
ratio
where
it
should
be,
then
you
start
losing
revenue
from
your
public
service
companies.
We
are
currently
at
about
730
million
in
value
on
public
service
companies
in
Buncombe
County,
so
you
would
not
want
to
risk
losing
15%
of
that,
because
we're
not
doing
a
reappraisal.
M
So
that's
the
other
thing
for
you
to
consider.
The
other
thing
for
us
to
discuss
tonight
is
general
statute
153
a
150
that
is
the
reserved
for
reappraisal
to
bring
us
into
compliance
with
this
statute.
What
I'm
asking
is
that
this
board
have
a
resolution
to
create
a
special
fund
for
the
expenses
of
reappraisal.
This
is
mandated
by
the
statute
and
should
be
done.
We
are
spending
the
money
anyway.
It's
just
the
fact
that
we're
getting
the
money
out
of
different
budgets
may
be
IT.
Capital
may
be
tax.
M
I
will
upon
your
direction,
hopefully
bring
back
to
you
at
your
next
meeting
a
resolution
and
that
resolution
would
ask
you
for
three
things
that
would
be
to
advance
the
opportunity.
No
reappraisal
to
January
1
2021
number
2
will
be
to,
in
accordance
with
the
provisions
of
153
a
150
that
the
county
finance
director
and
the
county
budget
director
established
a
general
reappraisal
fund
and
allocated
funds
for
that
through
the
budget.
Three
that
are
near
reappraisal
cycle
hereby
be
designated
all
rep
arpanet
county
be
a
reprice
every
four
years
following
the
January
1
2021
date.
M
E
M
M
Yes
and
your
legal
folks
can
overrule
me
if
they
wish,
but
even
if
I
bring
this
back
to
you
and
ask
you
to
advance
the
next
reappraisal
to
2021
something
happens
in
the
real
estate
market.
We
can
always
come
back
and
for
that
rezulin
know
the
resolution
changing
that
date
to
something
different,
but
setting
that
going
ahead
and
set
a
date
looking
forward
to
be
proactive.
This
helps
us
plan.
It
helps
us
budget
and
be
prepared
to
be
able
to
complete
that
Daniels.
B
M
M
N
M
B
Any
questions
or
comments
I'm,
certainly
supportive
of
the
four
year
cycle-
I,
think
that
and
I
think
it
was
before
any
of
us
were
on
the
Commission
when
they
deferred
it
to
in
the
last
time
during
the
Great
Recession.
But
those
were,
of
course
highly
unique
circumstances,
let's
hope,
and
so
that
probably
probably
made
all
the
sense
in
the
world
at
that
time,
but
I
think
as
a
general
schedule.
Four
years
makes
sense.
If
we,
if
we
go
longer
than
that,
then
when
we
do
do
it
it's
you
know
it
would
be
good
it'd,
be.
B
E
M
And
just
just
a
reminder,
if
I
may
say
mr.
chairman
and
said
reappraisal
was
designed
for
equity,
it
creates
equity
between
all
the
taxpayers.
Just
just
as
a
reminder
for
everyone.
You
know
the
reappraisal
is
not
just
about
you
know,
creating
more
value.
It
is
really
about
equity,
because
some
neighborhoods
in
the
county,
accelerating
appreciation
larger
than
others
and
all
people
are
taxed
as
to
value.
So
you
may
have
some
citizens
that
are
paying
their
taxes
on
80%
of
value
and
some
that
are
paying
on
90%
of
the
value.
B
Alright,
well
any
other
says
we
don't
need
to
vote
on
anything
tonight.
Keith
we'll
bring
back
a
resolution.
Is
there
any
other
feedback
you
want
to
give
him
before
he
does
that
all
right,
good,
all
right
hearing,
none.
That
sounds
like
that
sounds
like
we're
ready
to
consider
those
recommendations
and
an
upcoming
meeting.
All
right.
B
O
Evening,
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
information
to
you
on
the
city
of
Asheville's
transit
master
plan,
immense
we'll,
be
pulling
up
a
presentation
for
us
in
just
a
moment,
but
I
just
wanted
to
preface
this
presentation
by
noting
that
I
do
believe
that
this
presentation
will
obviously
bring
up
some
questions.
O
It's
meant
to
identify,
what's
forthcoming
from
the
city,
what
items
that
the
board
of
commissioners
will
be
considering
both
in
the
short
term
in
the
coming
months
and
also
in
the
upcoming
years
with
regard
to
the
city's
implementation
of
this
plan,
so
a
transit
master
plan
is
like
most
plans.
In
this
case.
O
It's
obviously
focused
on
the
transit
system
that
the
city
of
Asheville
operates,
but
the
purposes
of
the
plan
are
to
shape
how
and
where
bus
service
will
be
provided
by
the
city
and
giving
them
a
vision
for
a
long-term
service
expansion
and
also
infrastructure
needs.
This
plan
is
scoped
out
for
10
years
and
it
will
begin
with
implementation
in
fiscal
year
2020.
So
we
expect
to
see
some
of
that
plan
progressed
forward
with
July
1
of
2019.
O
The
process
for
this
particular
plan
was
actually
fairly
rapid
in
terms
of
proceeding
with
an
update
to
the
transit
master
plan
for
the
city.
The
original
transit
master
plan
was
adopted
in
October
of
2009
work
on
this
plan,
which
is
an
update
to
that
plan.
Proposing
new
initiatives
for
the
city
began
in
September
of
2017,
a
draft
plan
was
finalized
in
May
of
2018,
so
all
totaled,
the
working
months
that
went
into
the
first
draft
of
that
plan
were
about
eight
months.
It
was
a
very
rapid
plan,
implementation
or
excuse
me
plan
development
process.
O
There
was
a
steering
committee
that
assisted
in
guiding
that
plan,
that
committee
met
five
times.
They
were
additional
outreach
to
the
public,
including
community
workshops,
discussion
groups
online
paper.
Surveys
were
also
conducted,
as
well
as
on
board
surveys
with
AR
T
city
of
Asheville
transit
riders.
O
The
steering
committee
consisted
mostly
of
city
staff
as
well
as
individuals
that
are
involved
in
the
actual
operations
of
their
system.
Additional
members
included
citizens
that
represented
interest
groups,
as
well
as
other
government
agency
representatives
from
our
French
Broad
River
NPO.
Also
Buncombe
County
had
a
representative
staff
person
I
served
in
that
capacity,
as
that
process
went
on
again
with
a
five
meeting
scheduled
that
occurred
over
that
eight
month
period
in
terms
of
bunkum
County's
involvement.
Obviously,
I
mentioned
that
I
participated
on
the
steering
committee
on
behalf
of
the
county.
O
We,
as
as
a
county
as
staff,
did
not
participate
in
the
preparation
of
the
request
for
proposals
for
this
project.
We
didn't
in
any
way
to
find
the
scope
of
work
or
select
the
consulting
firms
or
identify
the
work
program,
so
that
was
all
handled
by
the
city.
They
did
ask
for
our
participation
as
a
representative.
They
also
asked
for
the
county
to
participate
in
a
cost
share
of
the
plan,
because
part
of
their
original
scope
included
the
study
of
extensions
of
the
service
beyond
city
limits.
O
So
there
was
a
request
for
that
and
the
city,
the
kinds
that
participate
in
cost-sharing
in
that
they
did
define
and
determine
that
amount
of
the
cost-sharing
based
on
how
much
of
the
work
of
the
consultants
was
focused
on
those
extension
efforts
and
moving
directly
into
the
actual
implementation
schedule
and
that
the
city
will
pursue
and
what
that
really
means
for
Buncombe
County.
So
a
number
of
things
will
be
impacted
as
the
city
moves
into
implementation
of
this
particular
plan.
O
O
They
have
so
as
the
city
expands
routes,
add
service
hours,
that
directly
impacts
the
operations
of
mountain
mobility
and
also
the
payments
made
between
the
city
and
county
and
that
relationship
contractually
between
the
city
and
the
county.
Obviously,
that
will
have
budgetary
impacts.
There
will
be
other
budgetary
impacts
that
we'll
touch
on
as
we
get
to
each
of
the
separate
implementation
items
that
impact
the
county.
O
In
certain
cases,
we're
going
to
take
a
look
year
by
year
at
the
actual
implementation
schedule
and
how
that
would
impact
us
at
within
a
fiscal
year
constraint.
So
the
first
year
implementation
year,
one
would
be
FY
2020.
The
city
has
proposed.
It
proposed
a
number
of
kind
of
first
year
kind
of
low-hanging,
fruit
things
that
they
can
do
to
get
this
plan
implemented.
O
O
There
are
a
few
of
the
actual
route
changes
that
will
directly
impact
us
and
I
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
those
in
terms
of
mount
mobility
in
its
operations,
the
first
it's
actually
a
combination
with
crosstown
route,
2
and
Route
170,
and
here
we're
seeing
some
scheduling,
changes
that
we
expect
to
happen.
As
those
are
implemented.
These
scheduling
changes
will
implement
or
impact
our
Inka
Candler
Trailblazer,
as
well
as
the
Black
Mountain
Trailblazer.
O
Adding
these
additional
runs
because
the
county
contracts
for
operations
with
a
third-party
provider
of
services
for
mountain
mobility.
If
we
were
to
to
modify
how
we
operate
the
Trailblazers,
it's
possible
that
our
contractor
could
request
a
different
rate
for
services.
Trailblazer
services
require,
for
example,
an
operator
with
a
CDL
other
services.
O
We
provide
do
not
that's
an
additional
cost
to
the
contractor
that
we
use
may
request
revisions
based
on
our
changing
of
services
and
then
again,
if
we
are
identifying
that
we
need
to
operate
additional
hours
or
additional
service,
we
haven't
identified
any
additional
grant
funding
at
this
point.
That
would
cover
those
costs,
there's
another
crosstown
route.
Again.
This
is
an
implementation
year,
one
we
crosstown
route,
four.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
different
scenario
and
how
it
might
impact
the
county
on
the
map
before
you
is.
O
O
There
is
a
proposed
extension
to
the
route
that
would
actually
go
further
out.
New
leicester
highway,
coming
more
proximate
to
erlin,
middle
and
high
school
and
serving
the
ingles
that
is
farther
out
Leicester
Highway.
This
is
the
again
the
before
the
existing
route
service
crosstown
route,
four
with
a
possible
extension
into
the
County
service
area,
is.
I
O
B
O
So
fixed
route
services
by
requirement
of
the
Federal
Transit
Administration,
you
have
to
provide
88
complementary
paratransit
within
a
quarter
mile
of
the
route.
So
anytime
you
extend
a
route
and
you're
not
already
covered
in
your
your
service
area.
It
actually
creates
a
lot.
Your
service
area,
the
city,
has
been
very
proactive
in
its
application
of
the
ad
a
paratransit
service
area.
So
it
includes
all
of
the
service
area
within
a
quarter
mile
of
any
route
plus
any
city
jurisdiction.
O
O
Really
here,
the
biggest
issues
in
terms
of
mountain
mobility
as
operating
that
service
for
the
city
would
be
again
we're
being
asked
to
operate
longer,
hours
on
Sundays
and
holidays,
additional
days
of
service,
Thanksgiving
and
Christmas
Day,
which
we've
traditionally
been
closed
on
those
days
of
service,
expanded
service
areas.
So
we
would
anticipate
a
larger
volume
of
trips.
O
We
would
anticipate
additional
volume
of
service
on
the
fair
free
weekends
as
well,
because
ad,
a
complementary
paratransit
service,
which
is
charged
at
a
rate
of
twice
the
regular
fare,
would
become
fare
free
on
Saturday
on
Sunday.
So
we
expect
to
see
some
shift
from
weekdays
to
when
they
would
be
a
free
service
for
a
customer
on
two
weekends,
and
we
would
expect
to
see
additional
trips
taken
on
the
weekend
days
as
well
again,
for
welcome
carries
consideration.
O
We
could
see
the
contractor
that
operates
the
service
request,
additional
rate
increase
there,
because
we're
operating
expanded
hours
of
service
in
order
to
meet
our
contractual
obligation
to
the
city
we're
operating
on
holidays,
where
again
they
pay.
You
know
time
and
a
half
for
additional
time
for
operators
to
be
there
that
wasn't
considered
in
the
initial
terms
of
the
contract.
So
we
could
see
some
of
that
adjustment
requested.
O
Also,
you
know,
as
the
service
design
changes
as
we're
carrying
more
ad
a
complementary
paratransit
services
that
requires
a
different
level
of
service
and
some
of
the
other
services
we
provide
again
using
wheelchair
lifts
and
other
devices
they're
more
timely.
So
they
there
could
be
more
considerations
from
the
contractor
to
ask
for
a
rate
adjustment
with
us.
O
O
The
next
two
years
of
implementation
are
shown
here
on
one
slide,
not
a
lot
of
the
inflamation
implementation
happening
in
year.
Two
really
impacts
the
county
directly
in
year.
Three,
though
again,
we
see
some
proposed
modifications
that
would
have
impacts
on
the
county
either
as
operationally
or
budgetarily.
O
So
the
first
map
here
shows
the
the
existing
Inka
Candler
Trailblazer
route,
so
we
operate
11
different
runs
of
service,
meaning
11
different
hours.
We
operate
out
in
the
Inka
Candler
area.
We
alternate
between
the
portion
that
serves
Sand,
Hill,
Road
Sardis
on
the
south,
and
then
the
portion
going
north
on
Monta
Vista,
so
we're
out
in
that
area
operating
already.
O
You
can
see
that
we
are
providing
operations
within
the
city
limits
in
order
to
provide
service
to
that
community,
but
also
to
connect
with
the
city
of
Asheville's
w3
route,
which
will
be
renamed
the
crosstown
route
at
the
goodwill
on
Patton
Avenue.
So
that's
our
connection
kind
of
in
that
upper
right
hand
corner
that's
where
we
currently
connect.
The
city
is
proposing
an
extension
beyond
that
existing
point
at
goodwill
on
Patton
to
serve
Sand,
Hill
Road
area
and
Sand
Hill
School
Road.
So
that
is
a
proposed
extension.
O
O
So
Trailblazer
service
is
a
fair
free
service
at
this
point,
so
that
is
another
consideration
that
that
I
think
would
be
necessary
to
make
as
we
move
forward
depending
on
how
the
city
is
is
progressing
with
their
services.
If
you
know
the
city
were
to
provide
service
and
we
were
to
stop
providing
service,
it
may
go
from
being
fair
free
for
a
citizen
to
being
a
service
with
the
fair.
B
O
The
fair
free
service
has
seen
a
positive
response
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
ridership
we've
seen
an
uptick
in
ridership,
which
we
would
expect
I
think
the
biggest
benefit
has
been
for
the
existing
rider.
That's
out
there
being
able
to
utilize
the
service
more
frequently
because
there
isn't
a
cost
burden
on
them
to
do
so.
But
it's
been
overwhelmingly
positive.
We've
seen
our
connection
points
with
the
city
go
up
because
they're
only
then
paying
for
one
service
and
not
both
legs
of
the
trip.
So
it's
been.
It's
been
very
positive.
Well,.
F
One
thing
that
I
saw
on
the
best
thing-
and
this
was
years
ago-
they
did
a
90-day
deal
in
the
city.
They
tore
up
a
lot
of
buses.
It
was
fair
free,
you
know,
then,
the
homeless
people
rode
the
best
is
all
day
and
run
half
the
people
off.
So
you
know
you
can
only
give
so
much
away
and
that's
you
know
you
got
to
back
up
and
right
now.
F
If
you
read
the
paper,
the
company,
that's
running
the
system
right
now,
it's
not
doing
a
very
good
job
because
they're
on
the
third
person,
you
know
to
try
to
keep
the
maintenance
of
the
buses
up
and
they're,
not
doing
a
very
good
job
of
that
they're
down
like
three
buses
right
now.
So
you
know
I
think
right
now,
talking
about
free
rides,
it's
bad
enough,
but
they
don't
have
enough
buses
to
do
what
they're
doing,
and
this
is
Buncombe
County.
It's
not
City
of
bunkum.
That's
the
way,
I
look
at
it.
F
We
have
our
bus
line
that
we
fund
each
year
and
I'm
perfectly
happy
with
that.
That's
where
I'm
at
we
don't.
You
know
every
time.
I
turn
around
its
a
city
wanting
something
this
buildings,
not
pink.
This
is
Buncombe
County.
We
have
to
look
at
Weaverville.
Give
them
up.
Give
the
city
at
Black.
Mountains
still
pays
the
city
to
come
to
Black
Mountain,
so
that
goes
through
Swannanoa,
but
you
know,
then
they
get
paid
to
go
to
Warren
Wilson.
They
used
to
get
paid
and
I
guess.
F
That's
probably
still
do
to
go
to
a
BTEC
or
not
a
BTEC
but
UNCA,
but
there's
a
group
of
people
that
put
some
of
this
stuff
forward
back
when
I
was
messing
with
the
city
and
it
turned
into
a
total
disaster.
So
they
took
routes
off
of
people
in
over
and
Oakley
on
the
back
roads
that
they
used
to
ride
the
back
roads
to
pick
people
up
now,
they've
got
to
come
all
the
way:
Fairview
Road
to
get
on
the
buses.
So
the
routing
don't
work.
F
You
know
I'm,
sorry,
but
that's
something
that
I
watched
for
a
long
time.
But
when
you
give
stuff
away,
then
you
get
all
the
homeless
people
and
we're
getting
plenty
of
them
and
they
want
to
ride
in
the
summertime
when
it's
cold.
They
want
to
ride
in
the
winter
when
it's
warm,
that's
that's
a
problem
and
then
run
them
on
Saturdays
and
Sundays.
You
know
I,
look
at
the
buses
now
ain't.
Nobody
on
you
know,
go
go
ride.
One
one
day,
look
Sammy,
see
many
people
see
them
this
company,
that's
running
a
city
deal
right!
F
Now,
it's
not
good!
You
know.
If
you're
on
your
third
person,
you
haven't
been
here,
but
just
a
little
over
a
year,
they
ran
a
guy
off.
It
had
40
years
experience
running
that
deal,
they
run
another
one
off.
It
had
40
years
experience
that
was
running
it
the
whole
deal
at
one
time,
but
the
maintenance
guy
they
let
him
go
now.
F
They're
the
gumpaste
three
maintenance
guys
they
burn
the
bus
here,
a
while
back
and
the
other
buses
they've
got
three
buses
down
right
now,
that's
you
know
the
hybrids
are
quitting
on
them
and
that's
that's
not
good.
So
you
know
we're
talking
about
something
in
mice.
Now,
that's
only
mice
but
I've
seen
it
I've
watched
it.
They
put
me
on
the
board
over
there,
but
the
council
the
board
as
soon
as
they
put
me
on
them
because
they
want
in
one
county
person.
Well,
then,
they
got
rid
of
that
deal.
F
Anybody
should
be
able
to
pay
$1
and
if
I
can't
get
it
to
where
you
give
them
a
ticket,
but
you
just
don't
let
them
get
on
the
bus
and
get
off
and
even
our
people.
You
know
right
now,
we're
probably
in
decent
shape,
but
trailblazers
were
spinning
around
in
Buncombe
County
for
a
long
time,
I
want
to
say
at
stake,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
in
competition
with
the
city.
The
city
is
the
city.
F
You
know
it's
not
Weaver
wheel,
we're
not
joining
with
Weaver
V
or
we're
not
joining
the
black
mountain
or
Biltmore
forest
or
even
Woodfin.
Every
time
I
turn
around
I
think
we're
in
a
pink
building
here.
We're
not
so
that's
where
I'm
at
on
this
picture,
this
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is
a
waste
of
time.
Thank
you
for
trying
thanks.
B
Commissioner
so
I
just
had
a
question
about
this
slide.
The
so
can
you
can
you
just
articulate
a
little
bit
more
on
the?
What
the
proposed
changes
here
is
it
that
the
basically
the
route
staying
the
same
or
similar?
It's
just
that
the
city
wants
to
run
that
route,
which
currently
the
county
Trailblazer
system,
serves.
That
route
is
the
minor
right,
correct.
O
So
the
Trailblazer
system
is
operating
in
that
particular
service
area
and
the
city
is
proposing
to
extend
and
provide
service
where
we're
already
providing
a
service
on
a
portion
of
that
route.
So
we
actually
on
the
Inca,
camel
trail
laser.
We
go
out
as
far
as
the
ta
truck
stop
and
connect
with
Haywood
County
Transit
as
well.
So
it's
a
much
lengthier
route,
so
this
is
kind
of
that
more
in
town
segment
that
the
city
is
proposing
to
take
on.
So.
B
From
a
purely
financial
standpoint
from
the
county's
perspective
on
that,
is
that
a
good
thing
or
bad
thing
in
terms
of
I
mean
if
they're
taking
over
service
we're
providing
now
and
they're
gonna
pay,
for
that?
Does
that
mean
that
that's
gonna
save
us
money,
or
is
it
revenue
neutral
because
they're
contracting
with
us
to
serve
that
area
or
how
does
it
all
look
from
a
just
a
straight
budget
standpoint
on
that,
like
that
example,
right
there,
it's.
O
It's
an
interesting
situation
again
because
that
we
have
a
complicated
relationship
with
this
in
terms
of
the
various
ways
in
which
we
interact
with
our
systems,
so
there
would
be
some
real
cost.
So
if,
for
example,
it's
determined
that
the
best
Avenue
to
pursue
would
be
to
not
serve
in
the
same
area
as
the
city
and
to
modify
our
routing,
it's
really
not
gonna
make
a
huge
cost
savings
for
us.
B
City
extends
their
route
to
run
those
routes.
One
option
might
be.
We
just
run
overlapping
services
there,
which
is
maybe
somewhat
inefficient,
but
also
provides
in
some
ways
some
more
frequency
of
trains
of
services
in
the
area.
So
there's
some
benefits
for
the
folks
living
there
that
there's
actually
more
service
there
now
than
there
is
now
right
right
and.
O
So
you
could
have
increased
frequency,
we
could
continue
to
operate
and
this
one's
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
I'll
jump
ahead.
So
there
are
things
that
we
could
consider
you
know
expanding.
Perhaps
we
as
the
county
would
be
considering
at
that
point
expanding
our
service
hours.
This
is
a
couple
of
years
from
now
or
days
of
service,
so
that
you
know
the
need
for
that,
may
not
exist
for
the
city.
We
could
sit,
consider
eliminating
the
portion
of
service
that
overlaps
and
re-evaluating
our
service
area.
That's
already
provided.
O
Another
thing
like
I
mentioned,
is
what
the
fare
structures
look
like
for
both
systems.
You
know
the
citizens
may
have
a
vested
interest
in
continuing
having
access
to
trailblazers
if
that's
a
fair
free
service
and
now
there's
a
new
service,
but
that's
at
a
fair
cost
to
them.
So
there
are
a
number
of
considerations
in
this
particular
case.
O
That
route
performs
fairly
well
in
terms
of
ridership,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
kind
of
ridership
volume
you
would
expect
to
see
on
a
city
level
of
service
operating
a
full-sized
bus.
So
that's
another
consideration
that
I
think
the
city
might
take
into
account
as
they
move
forward
and
again
we
provide
that
information
on
a
regular
basis
to
anyone
who
so
that
they
could
get
an
idea
of
what
kind
of
service
volume
they
may
expect
by
taking
that
service
on.
O
In
this
case,
my
understanding
from
conversations
with
city
staff
is
it's
more
about
an
equity
issue
and
that
there's
an
area
that
they
are
not
currently
serving
with
the
city
routes
that
is
within
their
jurisdiction.
So
again,
there
are
a
number
of
options
we
can
pursue.
You
know
as
we
move
forward
in
that
particular
case.
The.
O
It's
a
deviated
fixed
route
and
what
we
do
is
identify,
so
it
operates
kind
of
like
a
bus
service
and
that
we
run
the
same
routes
on
a
regular
basis.
We
do
have
identified
time
points
so
that
folks
know
that
they
should
expect
us
at
the
goodwill
on
Patton
Avenue
at
this
time,
but
it's
a
flag
down
service
as
well,
so
anyone
along
the
route
can
flag
down
the
bus.
It's
not
at
free,
marked
premark
stop
locations
for
us
as
well,
which
would
differ
from
how
the
city
would
operate.
O
The
other
extension
that's
proposed
in
this
particular
implementation
year
is
the
Weaverville
via
Broadway
route.
The
city
did
in
prior
times
operate
a
route
to
Weaverville
part
of
the
establishment
of
the
north
Buncombe
route
that
we
serve
at
the
Trailblazer
was
in
order
to
accommodate
citizens
who
needed
access
to
transit
service
when
the
city
discontinued
that
particular
service,
so
here
in
the
blue
again
as
the
north
Buncombe
trailblazer
route.
So
this
is
the
routing
we're
currently
operating
again.
We
vary
service.
O
We
run
eight
different
trips
out
in
that
area,
so
eight
hours
of
service
some
go
down.
Main
Street
some
go
on
the
exterior
portion
kind
of
in
a
loop
pattern.
The
city
in
this
case
is
proposing
service.
Two
we
reveal
via
the
Broadway
route,
so
it
would
actually
be
a
route
out
of
Broadway
that
would
go
into
Main,
Street
and
Weaverville,
so
you
can
see
that
in
purple.
So
this
is
an
extension.
O
The
black
route
is
the
existing
in
one
route,
which
would
sit
within
the
city
limits
in
this
case
again
they're
proposing
an
extension
that
would
go
outside
of
the
city
limits.
So
here
it's
kind
of
the
same
considerations.
What
does
that
look
like
for
our
routing
of
our
Trail
Blazers
things
that
would
change
in
terms
of
how
we
would
meet
up
meet
with
the
different
routes
from
the
city
of
Asheville
cost
there?
O
The
transit
master
plan
in
this
case
suggest
that
the
city
would
would
likely
request
two
hundred
and
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars
from
the
county,
an
additional
one
hundred
and
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
from
Weaverville
to
support
this
route.
Extension
other
considerations,
similar
again
with
ad
a
complementary
paratransit
service
area
expanding
and
what
that
impact
looks
like
for
the
county
of
the
city
and
mountain
ability
operations
again.
It
would
be
a
similar
reaction
to
an
extension
and
the
Inca
Chandler
area
of.
Do
we
modify
our
existing
routing?
Do
we
eliminate
it?
Is
there
a
duplication?
O
That's
occurring
there.
What
dafair
structures
look
like?
How
does
this
impact
our
grant
funding
streams
in
both
cases?
So
again,
a
lot
of
these
are
are
different.
Things
happening
in
different
parts
of
the
county,
but
some
of
the
impacts
are
fairly
similar
and
broad
reaching
the
next
several
years.
There's
additional
implementation.
The
city
is
proposing,
doesn't
really
impact
us
in
terms
of
extensions
into
the
county,
doesn't
really
impact
us
in
terms
of
additional
funding
requests.
O
Those
were
the
initial
pieces
of
the
the
plan.
The
portion
that
again,
the
the
city
requested
county
participation
on
the
steering
committee,
county
participation
and
the
funding
were
to
study
extensions
into
the
county.
Specifically
again,
the
city
identified
what
areas
they
felt
needed
to
be
studied,
including
Weaverville
and
Woodfin
Kerwin,
Inka,
Candler,
Reynolds,
Shiloh,
beaver
dam
and
Fairview.
In
these
cases,
as
we've
discussed,
there
were
a
number
of
actual
City
proposed
extensions
of
service
to
serve
some
of
these
communities.
O
O
Specifically,
it's
noted
in
the
plan
that
fixed
route
service
is
not
recommended
to
serve
the
reynolds
community.
I
know
that
there
have
been
requests
from
the
community
for
transit
service.
This
plan
does
not
call
for
fixed
route
service.
It
did
suggest
that
a
limited,
fixed
route
service
in
morning
and
evening
hours
should
be
considered
or
a
flex
route,
which
would
be
kind
of
like
a
deviated.
A
fixed
route
like
we
operate
with
our
trailblazers
being
considered
as
well.
O
So
here
we
have
the
existing
routing
of
s
5,
which
comes
this
close
to
the
reynolds
community.
At
this
point-
and
this
is
the
proposed
reynolds
flex
route,
which
was
included
in
the
master
plan
that
would
go
out
and
provide
service
in
this
area,
so
a
large
portion
is
still
within
the
city
limits
to
make
that
connection
with
the
existing
s
for
route.
The
routing
is
not
precisely
determined
that
these
are
estimates
and
projections
by
the
city
for
that
particular
service,
I.
O
O
How
we
you
know,
do
we
consider
expanding
our
services?
Does
the
city
want
to
participate
in
cost-sharing
for
us
to
provide
more
robust
services
so
that
the
you
know
in
handler?
Perhaps
they
want
us
to
run
longer
hours
and
agree
to
share
in
that
cost,
perhaps
to
cover
that
area
of
service
for
the
city
and
how
that
impacts
grant
funding.
So,
if
we're
losing
ridership,
are
we
going
to
be
able
to
sustain
the
grant
funding
we
have
because
we're
modifying
routes
and
we're
not
seeing
that
same
volume
of
ridership
the
ad,
a
complementary
paratransit
service?
O
O
The
budget
considerations
and
I
put
this
table
in
and
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
several
caveats
on
it.
So
the
first
year
figures
that
you
see
they
are
the
ones
that
were
listed
in
the
transit
master
plan.
They're
variable
I
couldn't
exactly
and
precisely
identify
how
they
arrived
at
those
they
weren't,
necessarily
exactly
in
line
with
what
I
was
familiar
with.
With
the
existing
contract
rates.
The
city
is
paying
for
its
provider
of
service,
which
is
how
I
would
imagine
they
would
have
arrived
at
those
those
values.
O
But
we
did
look
at
both
the
transit
master
plans,
projections
for
increased
cost,
as
well
as
what
we
were
able
to
see
in
the
city's
existing
contract
rates
and
basically
projecting
a
5%
increase,
was
an
average
between
those.
So
you
know
if,
if
the
county
were
interested
in
participating
in
the
crosstown
route
in
2020,
this,
the
cost
would
be
based
on
the
TMP
around
sixty
two
thousand
and
that
cost
would
steadily
increase
over
time.
O
We
also
included
that
we
reveal
route
potential
request
from
the
city
to
the
county
with
implementation
year,
2022
understanding
that
we
would
assume
that
the
master
plan
was
suggesting
that's
the
date
of
the
year.
That's
when
that
cost
would
begin
the
Flex
route
again
didn't
have
any
particular
year.
So
we
just
provided
those
as
kind
of
across-the-board
pieces
of
information
about.
O
O
So
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
the
county
could
possibly
do
with
those
funds
they
are
constrained
and
how
we
can
use
them.
We
may
not
be
able
to
use
them
all
in
the
first
few
years,
it's
possible
that
we
could
work
with
the
city
to
offset
some
of
these
costs
for
extensions
by
relinquishing
our
access
to
those
funds.
O
There
are
a
number
of
things
that
I
think
that
you
know
if
it
is
the
interest
to
the
board,
to
support
an
extension
into
the
county
that
we
could
be
creative
in
terms
of,
but
perhaps
not
accessing,
grant
funding
and
allowing
the
city
to
retain
it.
So
there
are
things
that
we
can
do.
You
know,
depending
on
the
will
of
the
board
in
those
areas.
O
It's
interesting
and
in
my
previous
experience,
I
actually
worked
for
Henderson
County
and
was
a
sub
recipient
of
these
5307
funds
for
Henderson
County,
and
so
you
can
see
in
federal
fiscal
year,
16,
which
we
are
in
our
current
fiscal
year.
19
the
county
had
access
to
two
hundred
and
sixty-four
thousand
dollars.
The
city
has
not
yet
applied
for
the
funds
from
federal
fiscal
year
16
for
us,
even
though
we've
included
them
in
the
budget
and
understand.
O
We
intend
to
use
them
in
FY,
19
and
a
limited
capacity,
and
so
the
process
really
is
dependent
largely
on
how
the
city
proceeds
with
their
application
process.
We
want
to
be
in
a
position
of
operating
a
few
fiscal
years
behind
the
federal
because
it's
often
released
late
their
years
when
different
than
ours.
O
So
it
puts
us
in
a
good
position
to
be
running
behind
in
terms
of
drawing
down
funds,
but
that
process
is
wholly
dependent
on
the
city,
proceeding
with
an
application
once
we've
identified
how
we
would
like
to
utilize
the
funds-
and
you
can
see
and
I
included
this
here
as
a
piece
of
information
as
well
in
our
fiscal
year.
19
budget,
we
did
include
some
funding,
5307
funds
for
use
to
offset
fuel
costs.
O
We've
never
had
grant
funding
to
do
that
and
we
can
use
it
in
a
limited,
limited
capacity
for
the
service
we're
providing
within
the
urbanized
area.
So
we
can
can
use
that
funding.
The
city,
I
believe
I
understand,
will
be
completing
the
application
process
in
December.
So
hopefully
the
funds
were
released
to
us
by
may
I.
O
Q
R
O
Just
included
here
in
the
last
slide
the
the
link
where
you
can
access
all
the
existing
master
plan
documents.
We
felt
it
was
important
as
staff
to
kind
of
try
to
boil
this
down
into
what
really
is
going
to
impact
Buncombe
County
in
terms
of
potentially
what
will
be
requested,
potentially,
what
we
may
have
to
address,
even
you
know
if
the
county
chose,
chooses
not
to
respond
in
any
way.
If
the
city
modifies
its
routes,
it's
definitely
still
going
to
have
impacts
on
how
we
operate.
O
F
Well,
I,
look
at
this
I'm,
probably
speaking
out
of
turn
again
and
it's
just
me.
Weaver
Vale
got
away
from
this
now.
You're
talking
asked
him
them
for
another
hundred,
thirty
seven
thousand
dollars
they
backed
away
from
the
city
of
Asheville.
You
know
it's
like
I
said
the
only
thing
that
got
to
Black
Mountain,
so
you
know
you're
trying
to
pull
something
you're
trying
to
put
the
county
in
the
city.
F
That's
all
you
talk
about
city
of
Asheville
and
you
know
I
work
for
Buncombe
County
as
you
work
for
Buncombe
County
and
we
have
a
bus
system
and
we
need
to
try
to
make
it
the
best.
We
possibly
can
that's
what
my
prerogative
is
make
our
system
the
best
we
can.
If
they
want
to
go,
do
something,
though
the
one
that
goes
to
federal
government,
their
municipality.
We
are
a
county
if
they're
just
a
part
of
our
County,
so
they
don't
run
us
and
we
don't
run
them.
So
we
have
to
give
them
money.
F
They
have
to
give
us
finish
money
so,
but
I'm
me
personally,
I've
seen
what
happened
to
Asheville
this
system
over
a
mile
of
years.
It's
not
good,
so
I
don't
care
what
kind
of
plan
they
put
together.
The
last
plan
they
put
together
was
a
disaster.
Now
we're
going
forward
again,
they
want
more
territory,
they
got
all
over
the
airport.
Guess
what
beats
about
there?
You
said
you
work
for
Hendersonville.
The
little
best
system
from
Hendersonville
makes
them
at
the
airport.
Okay.
F
So
let's
just
keep
what
we
have
without
talking
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
moving
from
here
to
there
to
let
them
do
this
or
do
that
I
want
our
people
to
have
what
they
need
out
in
the
county
and
as
long
as
we
have
Trailblazer,
it
should
work
because
that's
like
I
said
you
got
to
go.
Look
at
the
bestest,
even
in
the
city.
There's
not
that
many
people
on.
So
you
know:
what's
the
expansion
going
to
do
for
them
just
cost
us
money?
F
C
Yes,
sir
I'd
like
to
say
something
here:
thanks
Matt,
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
plan,
I
think
it's
great
that
you're
talking
about
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Buncombe
County
coming
together,
because,
ideally,
when
you
look
at
efficiencies
in
all,
it
would
be
great.
You
know
for
us
to
work
together,
so
we
don't
duplicate
any
services.
C
But
when
I
look
at
this
plan,
I
saw
the
lien
like
to
Commission
prior
view
in
one
respect,
I
see
us
putting
a
lot
of
money
in
this
over
the
years,
but
I
don't
see
the
services
giving
to
the
people
in
the
county
who
really
need
the
services.
Now
you
know,
I
can
see
us
doing
a
plan,
but
we've
got
to
have
more
input
in
it
and
we've
got
to
be
represented
at
the
table
so
that
we're
getting
something
out
of
it.
C
You
know
maybe
I'm
just
a
simple-minded
country
boy,
but
you
know
I've
always
looked
at
things.
If
you
know
if
I'm
gonna
put
out
my
money,
I
want
to
get
something
out
of
it
and
as
a
taxpayer,
I
have
some
serious
concerns.
When
I
look
at
this
county,
you
know
we
have
squandered
enough
of
the
taxpayers
money
as
it
is.
I
don't
want
to
see
us.
We
will
put
any
more
into
something
that
what
I,
when
I
look
at
this
I,
don't
see
us
getting
anything
out
of
it.
N
E
It
relates
to
us
so
that
we
can
have
a
good
discussion.
It
I,
don't
see
any
any
any
cost
benefits
to
the
to
the
county
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
Trailblazer
that
that's
a
really
great
system,
and
when
you
overlap
it,
though
they
can
do
what
they
want
to,
because
I
mean
if
they,
if
they
extend
the
city,
you
know
out
to
the
city
limits,
which
is
what
they're
wanting
to
do
an
Enka
Candler.
Then
you
know
I,
guess
we
could
change
our
routes
so
that
we
still
provide
the
same
services.
O
So
in
terms
of
our
Trailblazer
service
and
and
decision
to
go
fare
free,
we
had
experience
like
many
systems
have
across
the
United
States
an
actual
loss
in
ridership
as
the
economy
improved
and
we
were
experiencing
declining
ridership.
The
city
in
the
last
several
years
had
reduced
the
number
of
connection
points
that
made
with
our
Trailblazer
system,
making
that
a
less
effective
option.
We
also
faced
competition
from
other
services
that
didn't
exist
several
years
ago,
like
uber
and
lyft.
O
It's
kind
of
all
come
together
at
the
same
time,
and
so
you
know,
our
decision
was
was
one
so
we
do
have.
You
know,
grant
funding
support
for
that,
and
we
definitely
don't
want
to
jeopardize
it
and
one
of
the
ways
that
that
you
justify
your
service
is
by
your
ridership
and
making
this
decisions
to
go
for
free.
In
that
particular
case,
one
increased
our
ridership
and
to
the
revenue
streams
based
on
the
existing
fare
structure
were
so
insignificant.
B
B
At
this
time
you
know,
I
would
I
mean
I
just
make
a
couple
comments.
The
one
is,
you
know,
part
of
what
I
like
about
this
is
there
are
some
specific
ideas
on
the
table
because
people
come
to
I,
don't
know
me
sometimes
I'm
sure
other
commissioners
and
say:
what's
the
county
gonna
do
about
transit,
you
know,
and
so
I
oftentimes
ask
back
well
what
what
is
your
specific
idea
and
people
sometimes
have
ideas
about?
B
Let's
go
out
to
this
school
or
let's
go
over
to
this
school,
and
maybe
those
are
good
ideas,
but
you
know
I
think
transit
is
a
very
important
service.
It's
also.
It
is
a
very
costly
service
to
provide
so
I
think
that
whatever
we
do,
we
need
to
have
some
really
good.
We
need
to
have
a
good
planning
process
and
we
need
to
have
some
really
good
data
to
to
base
our
decisions
on
because
we're
you
know
the
reality.
B
Is
that
once
you
do
get
outside
the
city
limits,
you
know
we're
a
big
County
and
we're
mostly
a
rural
County.
We're
providing
you
know,
fixed
route
transit
is
not
you
know,
that's
not
realistic
for
most
places,
for
you
know
the
foreseeable
future.
So
we
need
to
be
really
strategic
in
how
we
do
this.
We
need
to
be
very
targeted
in
how
we
do
this
and
I
think
there
are
some
specific
ideas
here:
I'm,
certainly
not
endorsing
you
know
all
of
them,
but
I
think
there
are
some
things
here
to
look
at.
B
You
know
the
one
on
the
service,
the
proposed
service
expansion
on
Leicester
Road,
that
is
an
area
I'm
sure
everybody's,
probably
pretty
familiar
with
that
where
the
it
goes
outside
the
city
limits,
and
it's
a
very
it's
outside
the
city
limits,
but
it's
a
very
built
area.
There's
a
ton
of
new
apartments,
there's
grocery
stores
there
so
extending
transit
services
beyond
where
the
city
stops
serving
because
it's
outside
the
city
limits.
B
You
know
I
think
that's
probably
a
really
good
idea,
and
it's
actually
you
know
it's
not
a
giant
budget
buster
to
consider
that
so
I
think
that's
a
great
idea
to
look
at
and
I
think
we
should
look
at
these
others
as
well,
but
if
and
I'm
glad
that,
I'm
glad
that
the
county
had
an
opportunity
to
have
someone
on
the
planning
process.
For
you
know
the
city
master
plan.
B
If
we
want
to
invest
in
doing
our
own
transit
planning,
that's
something
we
should
you
know
we
should
talk
about,
because
the
city's
process
was
absolutely
focused
on
what
happens
in
the
city
limits.
That's
what
the
City
Council's
rightly
focused
on,
but
it's
as
our
area
urbanized
as
we're
gonna
need
to
think
about
how
the
city
system
and
the
county
system
can
most
effectively
be
coordinated,
so
any
way
to
look
forward
to
having
the
discussion
any
other
initial
thoughts
or
comments
back
while
we're
on
this
item,
you
know
and
I,
don't.
E
Have
a
problem
with
looking
at
all
the
information
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
coming
we're
not
jeopardizing
Trailblazer
we're
not
jeopardizing
some
of
these
good
systems
that
are
out
there.
Now
that
we're
realistically
looking
at
extending
a
service
into
the
county
and
benefit
in
the
county,
which
is
I,
think
what
that
Laster
loop
does
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I'm,
based
on
what
I,
what
I
saw
there.
It
does,
but
you
know
I'm
not
interested
in
in
propping
up
the
city's
transit
system
and
I.
E
E
I
know
it's
within
the
city
limits
and
I've
always
wondered
why
didn't
run
out
there
anyhow,
because
it
was
in
the
city
limits
when
I
was
before
Chad's
mother
yeah,
it's
money
so,
and
so
now.
The
issue
is
that
if
they
extend
it
out
there,
the
overlaps
are
a
trailblazer
and
that
that
that
makes
it
complicated.
B
Well,
here's
just
and
I
don't
and
I
don't
have
a
position
on
this,
but
here's
the
only
I
mean
on
a
high
level.
I
mean
I.
Think
one
question
that
I
don't
know
and
math.
You
have
any
initial
thoughts
on
this.
Just
conceptually,
but
I
mean
I.
Think
the
Trailblazer
system
is
does
a
great
job,
but
I
mean
part
of
the
reality
in
the
region.
Is
that
what
a
lot
of
people
who
need
transit
for
is
to
get
to
work?
B
You
know
from
their
home
to
work
and
back
home
again
right
so,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
jobs
in
the
city.
A
lot
of
people
every
day
go
from
outside
the
city
into
the
city
to
work
and
they
need
to
go
home.
So
so
I
guess
I
just
would
say
that
I
mean
I
think
we
need
to
be
open-minded
to
what
meets
people's
needs.
The
best
I
mean
in
the
idea
of
like
taking.
B
If
you
have
to
take
a
trailblazer
route
and
then
take
a
city
route
to
get
to
work-
and
you
have
to
you
know
change
routes,
I
mean
that's
that's
kind
of
a
hassle
right.
So,
if
there's
more
kind
of
direct
connections
in
the
region,
I
think
we
need
to
be
open
to
what's
the
most
efficient
way
to
do
that
with
the
customer
in
mind
you
know
and
in
and
if
that's
all
Trailblazers
are
great.
If
it's
something
for
the
city,
I
think
we
should
just
be
open
to
what
works
best
for
you.
E
O
Other
item
I
will
take
the
opportunity
to
mention
and
I
think
it
coincides
well
with
kind
of
the
discussion
that
the
board
is
having
now
is
that
the
county
does
participate
in
its
own
transportation
planning
process.
So
we
have
a
coordinated
transportation
services
plan.
That
is
a
basically
a
five-year
vision.
We
do
a
shorter
term
vision,
that's
in
cooperation
with
the
state,
because
there
are
a
major
grant
funding
partner
and
so
that
process
is
scheduled
to
occur
again
in
2020,
so
we
won't
have
a
planning
initiative
of
our
own.
O
That's
running
at
that
point
we
will
certainly
keep
you
know
the
board
aware
of
that.
It
involves
citizen
input,
it
involves
analysis,
so
they'll
revisit
things.
You
know
our
initial
plan
from
2015
did
not
suggest
any
kind
of
new
deviated
fixed
route
service,
new
Trailblazer
service,
but
it's
possible
that
our
new
2020
plan
may
identify
an
area,
that's
appropriate
for
it,
and
so
we
have
our
own
planning
processes
that
go
on
in
terms
of
the
service
that
the
county
provides.
O
B
Right,
Matt
thanks
so
much
appreciate
it
look
hard
to
talking
further
okay,
we've
got
two
public
hearings.
The
first
one
is
a
zoning
ordinance
amendments
and
Josh
Freeman
is
going
to
present
both
of
these
items.
First
for
the
break
and
then
for
the
Hale
property.
If
I'm
pronouncing
that
right,
Thank.
T
You
mr.
chair
board,
members
I
just
wanted
to
take
an
opportunity.
Nathan
Pennington.
For
those
of
you,
don't
know
him.
Your
planning
director,
Josh
Freeman,
is
our
new
Zoning
Administrator
debby
Trumpy,
who
many
of
you
have
known
retired
on
Friday,
so
Josh
is
now
coming
to
us.
He's
got
a
lot
of
experience.
He's
worked
for
Teague
engineering
as
well
as
the
city
of
Brevard
he's
a
certified
planner
as
well
as
a
fellow
certified
floodplain
manager.
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
introduce
him
and
he's
here
to
present
both
of
the
rezoning
tonight.
U
Thank
you
all
pleasure
to
be
here
max
if
you
could
pull
up
the
presentation
please
so
the
first
public
hearing
before
you
tonight
is
under
Planning
Department
areum's
is
only
public
hearing,
2018
43,
it's
the
break
in
zoning
map.
Amendment
I
just
want
to
stay
for
the
record
for
the
benefit
of
the
clerk
that
the
public
hearing
was
properly
advertised
and
it
is
given
in
accordance
with
the
general
statutes
and
Buckham
County
Code
I
have
documentation
to
that
effect
that
I
can
present
to
you
later.
U
The
purpose
of
the
public
hearing
is
to
consider
a
proposed
map
amendment
to
the
official
zoning
map
of
Buckham
County.
Just
a
reminder
must
I
believe
the
board
is
probably
aware
of
this
for
the
public's
benefit
zoning
map
amendments
are
not
project
specific
or
land
use.
Specific
the
applicant
cannot
propose
and
the
kevie
cannot
consider
a
particular
development
concept
or
plan
for
site
development.
Rather,
the
zone
map
amendment
is
if
it's
approved
it
creates
a
potential
for
any
land
use,
that's
allowable
in
the
proposed
district
to
be
constructed,
or
at
least
proposed
for
construction.
U
On
the
subject
property
the
applicant
is
John
brake
who's.
Here
tonight
he
is
executor
and
trustee
on
behalf
of
Ruth
brake
who's
deceased,
and
he
does
have
legal
counsel
with
him
tonight.
Who
will
also
make
a
presentation
after
I've
completed.
My
property
is
located
on
Tunnel
Road,
u.s.
highway
70
at
the
intersection
of
Tunnel
Road
and
Robert
Clayton
Drive.
If
you're
looking
at
the
map
on
the
screen-
and
let
me
zoom
in
a
little
closer
here,.
U
There
we
go.
Thank
you.
Robert
Clayton
drive
is
located
due
east
of
the
subject
property,
which
is
highlighted
on
the
map
in
yellow
and
then
there's
an
apartment
complex
that
I'll
address
at
a
moment
which
is
again
to
the
east
as
well.
The
property
in
question
is
0.99
acres
in
size.
Current
land
uses
a
vacant
currently
zoned.
Our
two
residential
proposed
zoning
district
is
employment,
so
r2
is
a
low
to
medium
density.
Residential
district
employment
is
kind
of
a
mixed-use
commercial
district
that
allows
a
broad
range
of
uses,
as
well
as
some
light
industrial
uses.
U
It
abouts
EMP
zoning
or
employment
zoning,
as
well
as
commercial
and
industrial
land
uses
to
the
south
across
US,
highway.
70
and
south
of
Norfolk
Southern
rail
line,
it's
separated
on
the
same
side
of
the
road
on
the
north
side
of
highway
set
of
tunnel
Road
by
from
existing
commercial
zoning,
specifically
EMP
to
the
west
and
commercial
service
to
the
east,
in
both
cases
by
a
distance
of
about
300
feet
plan
consistency
is
an
important
consideration
in
any
rezoning.
The
board
commissioners
must
adopt
a
plan.
Consistency
statement
to
approve
this
rezoning.
U
A
draft
of
a
consistency
statement
has
been
provided
to
you
in
your
packets.
We
hit
some
of
the
high
points
in
terms
of
plan
consistency,
and
this
is
staffs
perspective
here.
The
subject
property
is
located
on
an
identified
major
transportation
corridor
within
a
combined
water
and
sewer
service
area.
It's
outside
of
a
steep
sloped
area,
it's
outside
of
a
high
elevation
area,
it's
outside
of
an
area
of
higher
moderate
slope
stability
and
it's
outside
of
the
special
flood
hazard
area.
U
Those
points
argue
or
are
offered
by
the
2013
comprehensive
plan
as
arguments
in
favor
of
the
application.
It's
not
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
with
respect
to
its
separation
from
low-density
residential
uses.
I
will
say
that
what
is
low,
what
is
medium
density?
What
is
high
density
is
somewhat
of
a
matter
of
effective,
but
its
staff
perspective
that
it
is
not
separated
from
low-density
residential
uses.
U
Staff's
recommendation
is
to
approve
the
proposed
amendment
on
the
basis
that
it's
generally
consistent
with
the
become
County
Comprehensive,
Plan
I,
believe
your
planning
board
supported
the
recommendation
offered
you
a
favorable
recommendation
as
well.
I
believe
the
vote
was
five
to
one
and
I
can
I
can
verify
that
if
you
need
options
before
you
tonight
would
be
to
approve
the
proposed
rezoning
is
presented
or
deny
the
rezoning
is
presented.
Take
any
questions.
U
B
B
G
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
good
evening,
members,
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Babas
I'm,
an
attorney
with
the
law.
Firm
of
Maguire
wouldn't
miss
it
I'm
here
representing
John
Robert
brake
who's.
Here,
he's
got
a
bit
of
a
problem
with
laryngitis
I'll
be
doing,
is
talking
for
him.
I've
been
through
this
presentation.
I
think
I
can
get
it
done
in
about
three
minutes,
but
if
I
do
run
over
I'm
taking
his
time,
it's
it's
I
want.
G
Mr.
Freeman
or
mr.
Pennington
for
their
work
on
the
staff
report
and
presentation
I'll
be
as
brief
as
I.
Can.
The
property
in
question
is
slightly
less
than
one
full
acre,
it's
roughly
rectangular
and
with
its
long
side,
if
it's
about
250
feet
fronting
directly
on
Tunnel
Road,
which
is
also
hose
us
74,
Lane
Road
used
to
be
the
only
way
out
of
town.
G
There
are
commercial
uses
across
the
road
which
is
mr.
Freeman
point
out
is
zoned
employment,
then,
on
the
other
side
of
those
uses,
is
the
railroad
track
followed
by
I-40?
There
are
commercial
uses
nearby
in
both
directions
and
the
following
photos
will
characterize
so
we'll
characterize
the
area.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
get
this
to
work.
G
B
B
Mr.
rose
I
think
we
should
open
the
public
hearing
and
then
we're
gonna.
Let
you
continue
your
presentation.
Okay,
all
right!
So
we're
gonna,
open
the
public
hearing
at
6:36
p.m.
I,
don't
believe
we're
gonna
be
able
to
give
you
more
than
three
minutes,
but
we'll
start
the
clock
now,
since
we're
just
now
opening
the
public
hearing.
Okay,.
G
G
G
G
This
is
looking
east
looking
east
from
the
subject
property.
You
can
see
the
zoning
sign
there.
The
paneling
world
is
up
on
the
hill,
just
on
the
other
side
of
that
of
that
telephone
pole.
Basically,
what
you
have
out
here
is
a
patchwork
of
commercial
manufacturing
and
residential
uses
along
the
north
side
of
the
u.s.
70
from
Asheville
to
Black
Mountain.
The
south
side
is
dominated
by
the
railroad
track
and
I-40,
but
where
it
is
wide
enough
like
here,
it's
a
commercial.
G
As
mr.
Freeman
pointed
out,
but
when
this
rezoning
request
is
evaluated
against
the
criteria
and
the
counties
own
plan,
it
meets
every
one
of
the
marks
and
I
would
I
would
disagree
with
with
the
planning
staff
slightly,
because
I
think
the
surrounding
residential
uses
are
medium
density
and
and
in
some
cases,
high
densities.
An
apartment,
building
located
right.
Two
apartments
located
right
in
back
to
the
property
and
to
the
east
is
a
fairly
densely
developed.
Residential
subdivision.
G
I
would
argue,
those
are
those
are
medium
density
and
not
and
they're,
not
low
density,
but
the
in
addition
to
the
to
the
use
limitations
that
come
along
with
the
uses
available,
the
employment
zoning
classification,
the
there
are
some
other
dimensional
requirements
that
affect
the
potential
development
size.
The
Lots
approximately
just
over
40,000
feet,
250
feet
up
on
frontage,
but
it
isn't.
It
is
an
irregular
shape,
the
fan
and
in
the
EMP
zoning
classification,
the
front
and
front
and
rear
yards
or
20
feet.
It's
a
20
foot,
setback,
side,
yards
or
10
feet.
G
There
are
other
limitations,
including
which
are
intended
to
mitigate
the
impact
of
whatever
use,
goes
there,
including
the
requirement
for
a
15
foot
vegetative
buffer
between
the
use,
any
any
commercial
use
of
the
in
the
adjacent
residential
uses
off
street
parking
is
required,
and
and
and
the
parking
lot
is
required
to
be
landscape.
There
are
some
sites
that
some
site
constraints,
that
sort
of
differentiate
this
property
from
other
property
or
from
a
pit
from
a
piece
of
flat
land
number
one.
G
There
are
three
right
of
ways
along
the
along
the
western
side
of
the
property
which
limit
the
development
potential
for
that
for
that
part
of
the
property.
If
you
look
at
the
property
on
a
map,
its
kind
of
net
kind
of
narrow
in
the
middle
all
these
combined
to
impact
the
the
impact
in
impact
on
the
adjacent
property,
we
Dupree
that
the
Planning
Board
and
the
planning
staff
I
can
in
favor
this
rezoning
and
that's
what
we'd
support.
Thank.
B
Alright,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
at
6:40
bring
it
back
to
the
board
any
questions
for
the
staff
or
the
applicant,
or
is
there
a
motion?
We're
gonna
need
two
motions.
The
first
is
going
to
be
finding
that
the
plan
is
consistent
with
the
county's
land
use
plan
or
inconsistence
at
first.
We
need
a
consistency
finding
and
then,
if
it's
found
to
be
consistent,
we'll
need
a
second
vote
to
actually
amend
the
official
zoning
map.
Someone.
U
Okay,
second
public
hearing
of
the
evening,
zillion
public
hearing,
2018
44.
This
is
the
the
hail
Sony
map
amendment
again,
I'll
stay
for
the
record
that
this
public
hearing
was
properly
advertised
and
we
have
documented
documentation
of
that
effect
again.
Just
a
brief,
I'm,
not
gonna,
repeat
myself
too
much,
but
just
to
remind
the
public
and
the
board
that
zoning
map
amendments
are
not
project
specific.
We
consider
all
the
uses
available
in
the
district
being
proposed.
The
applicant
is
mr.
U
Jesse
Gardner
of
civil
design,
concepts
and
hey,
and
he
is
here
tonight-
and
he
is
the
applicant
on
behalf
of
Peter
and
Sarah
Hale,
who
are
the
property
owners.
The
address
of
the
property
is
38
draw
Ferry,
Road,
just
off
of
north
on
highway
191
Brevard
Road
1.9
acres
in
size.
Currently
there
is
a
single-family
residence
on
the
property
currently
zoned,
our
three
residential
proposed
zoning
is
commercial
service
or
CS.
It
abuts.
Let
me
flip
to
the
next
slide,
sir
one
more
thanks,
sir.
U
It
the
property
currently
abouts
Arthur
rezoning
along
its
northern
and
southern
boundaries
along
this
eastern
and
western
boundaries,
it
abuts
commercial
service,
adjacent
land
uses,
are
low
density,
residential
to
the
north
and
south
vacant.
Land
uses
to
the
east
and
commercial
land
uses
specifically
an
automobile
dealership
to
the
west.
In
terms
of
plan
consistency
again,
you'll
you'll
need
to
adopt
a
consistency
statement.
If
you
choose
to
approve
in
terms
of
staff's
analysis
of
the
Comprehensive
Plan,
we
found
that
it
is
consistent
in
the
following
ways:
it's
located
within
the
combined
water
and
sewer
service
area.
U
It's
not
within
a
steep
slope
environment,
not
within
a
high
elevation
environment,
not
within
a
higher
moderate
slope,
stability,
environment
and
it's
not
located
within
the
special
flood
hazard
area.
In
terms
of
any
inconsistent
element,
it
is
not
separated
from
Lu
residents,
low-density
residential
land
uses
and
it's
not
directly
on
an
identified
major
transportation
corridor.
B
V
V
And
this
is
opportunity
for
him
to
secure
some
property
around
them
for
future
growth
of
the
business
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
but
I'll
keep
it
short
sweet
tonight
and
we,
you
know
full
support
from
staff
and
the
Planning
Board
and
I.
Ask
that
the
board
policy
all
right.
Thank
you.
All.
B
B
F
F
F
F
Emergency
repairs,
75,
they
got
nothing,
you
got
mountain
house
and
that's
for
300
and
they
got
263.
You
know
supposedly
going
to
fix
55
homes
and
it
turns
into
48
supposed
to
fit.
You
know:
I
want
to
see
some
paperwork
to
what
these
people
do.
You
know
we're
giving
them
money
as
if
I
don't
works,
going
I,
don't
see
it
going
into
homes
and
see
it
going
into
you
know,
fixing
people's
properties
or
older
people's
properties.
That's
that's
a
problem.
F
I
have,
and
you
know
until
they
start
showing
me
where
this
money
is
that
doctor
to
that
we're
gonna.
Let
them
have
two
hundred
sixty
three
thousand
out
of
three
hundred
thousand.
That's
that's
less
than
forty
thousand
dollars
from
the
true
number.
Then
you
got
you
know
a
couple
of
more
that's
getting
zero
abalones
getting
zero,
so
is
meant
asheville
area
habitat
well,.
B
F
E
B
T
Thank
You
mr.
chair,
commission,
members
and
members
of
the
public
I'm
Nathan
Pennington.
We
have
a
subject
matter
expert
here
and
both
Donna
cultural
and
Cynthia
Fox
Clark.
We
just
want
to
kind
of
preface
this
that
we
brought
to
you
in
October
the
structure
of
the
affordable
housing
services
program
and
our
focus
area.
This
year
was
on
emergency
repair
and
we
had
the
public
hearing
in
October
and
we
promised
you
that
we
would
bring
back
as
part
of
a
competitive
process.
T
The
application
system
and
Donna
will
be
here
to
explain
that,
and
we
also
have
representatives
here
from
Habitat
for
Humanity
in
may
Chow
for
any
questions
you
might
have
them
as
well
as
Kirk
booth,
so
I'm
gonna,
let
her
sort
of
explain
the
scoring
how
we
got
to
the
numbers
that
are
being
presented
to
you
tonight
and
then
we'll
be
here
to
summarized
as
well.
Okay
and.
B
W
W
So
the
next
slide,
please
so
just
to
remind
you
of
the
goals
its
to
increase
the
stock
of
affordable
housing,
preserve
existing
housing
stock,
reduce
substandard
housing
and
support
homeownership
initiatives
such
as
down
payment
assistance
program,
the
next
one.
So
this
year
we
brought
to
you
some
changes
that
we
actually
did
to
the
application.
One
of
those
is
that
there
was
money
that
was
moved
via
budget
amendment
from
strategic
partnership
programs
to
the
affordable
housing
services
program
for
emergency
repair.
W
So
that
was
one
change.
The
next
change
was
for
the
scoresheet
not
yet
go
back
for
the
scoresheet.
We
made
it
more
equitable
for
emergency
repair
and
rental
and
single-family
home
construction,
because
not
every
part
of
the
spread,
the
checklist
applied
to
everything,
so
it
made
it
more
equitable
and
the
last
thing
we
did
was
we
were
able
to
update
the
income
limits
and
the
HUD
purchase
price.
So
before
go
ahead,
the
next
one
before
I
talk
to
you
about
the
recommendations.
W
I
want
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
the
process,
so
on
October
the
7th
we
advertised
for
agencies
to
apply
for
funding
via
the
website
and
the
filling
out
the
application,
and
so
that
the
ad
went
out
on
October
the
7th
we
sent
out
emails
we
sent
out
deters
requesting
that
applications
come
in
for
the
eligible
activities
we
receive
those
those
were
due
October,
the
26
we
got.
Those
in
and
you'll
see
that
in
your
sheet,
the
the
people
that
applied
and
staff
scored
those-
and
so
these
are.
W
The
recommendations
would
come
to
you
with
tonight.
The
first
is
for
Buncombe
County,
employee
Employee
Assistance.
Lately,
we've
had
we
have
a
little
bit
of
funding
from
past
year's
approval,
but
we
needed
at
least
to
be
able
to
do
one
more
and
we
do
have
representatives
from
the
agencies
that
we've
asked
that
we're
recommending
funding
for
the
first
is
Mountain
housing
opportunities
and
I'll.
Ask
their
representative
to
come
up
and
talk
about
their
emergency
repair
program.
B
W
Do
repair
people's
homes
and
they
they've
done
it
for
us
for
years
and
and
done
it
really
well,
they
historically,
the
limit
has
been
$5,000.
The
board
a
few
years
ago
raised
that
to
15,000
in
situations
where
there
was
a
need
where
there
was
a
roof
and
a
septic
or
electrical
and
a
and
a
heat
pump.
There
were
times
when
if
they
needed
a
heat
pump
and
they
had
a
hole
in
their
booth,
you
had
I
mean
you
had
to
pick
or
do
one
and
hope
that
they
could
get
the
other
from
somewhere
else.
W
W
W
B
E
E
Well,
we
have
a
problem
where
I
have
a
problem,
some
others
some
some
a
because
we're
you
have
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
going
to
go
into
an
agency,
and
you
tell
us
about
the
results,
and
you
tell
us
about
the
thank
you
cards
and
all
that
we
don't
see
any
of
that.
Okay,
and
so
you
know
I've
heard
it
say,
said
before
it's
a
new
day
in
Buncombe,
County
and
I.
E
Believe
that
I
believe
that
it's
okay
to
ask
the
questions
and
for
us
to
want
to
know,
even
though
these
are
great
agencies,
we
want
to
see
the
results.
I
think
if
we
see
the
results
and
people
can
feel
better
about
about
the
amounts.
It's
not
an
issue
of
trust.
It's
an
issue
of
how
you
know
great
a
job.
You
know
y'all
do
or
they
do
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
when
you
see
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
amount,
how
many
homes
does
that
affect
how
many
homes
has
it
affected?
E
You
know,
and
and
what
has
it
been
able
to
do
and
I
don't
disagree
with
you?
$15,000
doesn't
go
a
long
way
anymore,
but
on
some
houses
it
can
go
a
long
ways.
Commissioner,
the
four
are
and
I
visited
quite
a
few
homes
where
a
$1,500
a
house
would
go
a
long
way.
Would
you
not
agree
with
that?
Mr.
Farr,
we
did
and
a
little
I
keep
forgetting
what
it's
called
co-op.
There
was
good
yeah
yeah,
they
have
a
co-op
and
so
and
I
think
it's
a
matter
of.
E
We
want
to
do
this
and
we
want
to
affect
as
many
homes
as
possible
and
if
it's
a
home,
that's
you
know
only
worth
$30,000
$2,000
goes
a
long
way
and
I
mean
and
and
some
you
know,
folks
out
there
you
know
you
may
get
a
little
glassy-eyed
want
to
talk
about
a
house
that
is
$30,000
but
there's
30,000
other
houses
out
there
in
Buncombe
County
little
bitty.
Small
houses
that
we
can,
we
can
make
a
big
difference
for
a
family,
so
I
think
if
we
just
had
more
detail
on
it.
W
F
P
No
I
agree
with
many
other
things.
You
say,
commissioner,
belch
all
right.
I
had
the
chance.
A
couple
of
us
were
in
the
room
last
year
to
get
a
presentation
from
MHO
about
this
program.
Specifically,
that
was
accompanied
by
actually
photos
of
sort
of
before-and-after
photos
and
many
of
the
homes
that
have
been
fixed
was.
B
A
B
B
A
Q
P
It
was
just
hard
to
keep
up
with
the
demand
for,
and
these
were
repairs
like
ramps,
so
people
could
safely
get
in
and
out
of
their
house
collapse
floors
that
were
immediate
dangers.
I
mean
these
were
not
aesthetic,
they
became
much
more
aesthetic
and
in
the
repair,
but
these
were
fundamental.
Fundamental
safety
issues,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
see
that
there's
been
this
movement
in
the
last
12
months
and
applaud
the
work
staff
has
done,
applaud
the
work
that
community
partners
have
done
and
and
also
just
for.
P
C
A
concern
I
have
is
that
we're
talking
about
people
who
need
this
work
done
now
in
some
cases
yesterday,
and
you
know,
I
have
the
trust
in
these
organizations.
They've
been
doing
it
for
years
and
I
know.
You
know
a
lot
of
several
of
them
and
I
know
people
have
helped,
but
I
don't
want
to
see
us
hold
this
up
tonight.
I
think
this
is
something
I
want
to
see
us
approved,
so
it
can
get
done.
You
know
we
have
the
weather's
changing
and
everything
and
just
going
forward.
You
know
if
we
need
the
information.
C
E
E
It
shows
everything
that
we're
doing
and
if
that's
a
million
dollars
a
year,
if
it's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
whatever
it
is,
if
we
vote
on
then
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
put
all
these
together
so
that
so
that
makes
more
sense
to
me.
But
anyhow,
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
approve
it,
and
but
I
would
like
to
see
that
that
that
detail
would
like
to
see
us
try
to
connect
the
dots
and.
B
Q
X
Don't
think
wanting
to
know
where
your
money
go
is
bad
on
anything,
because
how
many
people
come
up
here
and
give
you
wonderful
great
human
causes,
we
go,
give
them
a
free
ride,
so
they
can
get
to
work.
There's
nothing
free
in
the
world
and
I
think
what
you
need
to
do
is
to
follow
the
money.
When
I
hear
strategic
partners
a
little
bell
goes
ding.
X
Much
money
is
broken
County,
giving
to
that
individual
partner
through
various
routes
and
means-
and
we
have
just
got
through
going
through
a
process
where
the
previous
administration
shuffles
money
from
one
strategic
partner
to
another
partner,
all
were
justified.
All
had
job
titles
all
were
doing
their
job.
This
is
not
being
derogatory
to
any
of
you
folks,
because
there
is
a
problem.
X
A
lot
of
people
need
help
out
there,
but
I'm
gonna
tell
your
story:
a
board
that
I
graduated
from
high
school
with
and
I
didn't
find
this
after
a
bunch
of
us
old
folks
started
meeting
for
breakfast
and
we're
in
the
old
folks
now
believe
it
or
not.
You
got
a
breakfast
group
meeting
too,
because
people
and
we
were
out
there
eating
if
they're.
X
Boy
had
a
job
at
Strawberry,
Hill
purpose
remember
what
was
that
he
walked
from
Strawberry
Hill
press
to
Barnesville
North
Carolina
for
six
months
to
have
a
job.
Now,
that's
what
it
takes.
That's
the
initiative
that
we
have
to
have
in
people.
So
when
my
money
goes
out,
yes,
I
want
to
know
exactly
where
it
went
and
what
it
did,
and
you
want
to
get
more
money
to
those
causes.
X
If
you'll
make
that
information
available,
guess
what
there
might
be,
some
churches
become
involved
rather
than
getting
in
there
dad
Jim
trucks
and
driving
halfway
across
the
country
are
flying
to
another
foreign
country
and
I.
Think
we
have
some
people
associated
with
churches
up
there,
just
like
I
know
of
a
church
at
one
time
was
running
Hispanics
off
from
the
church
playing
soccer
on
Sunday
and
loading
up
a
whole
busload
of
people
and
going
to
Mexico
to
witness
to
it.
So
folks,
I
want
to
see
where
the
money's
going.
Thank
you,
okay,.
B
Next
item
under
new
business
is
Jennifer.
Chilton
is
going
to
talk
us
through
a
number
of
different
FY
19
budget
amendment
summaries.
Before
before
we
we
conclude
that,
though
there
was
a
request
to
just
get
some
additional
information.
So
if
I
know
everyone
whose
organization
submitted
an
application
for
these,
so
how
about?
If
the
applications
for
these
projects
that
were
approved
be
emailed
to
the
commissioners
sounds.
Y
Y
Part
of
the
amendment
tonight
is
to
request
that
we
are
able
to
budget
their
revenues
and
associated
expenditures
for
proceeds
or
funds
that
were
part,
a
portion
of
this
program,
which
are
loan
repayment.
So
the
program
does
receive
loan
repayment
from
individuals
and
we
are
in
receipt
of
one
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
that
we
would
like
to
increase
the
expenses
in
an
effort
to
go
ahead
and
maximize.
The
total
dollar
amount.
That's
being
requested
tonight
in
the
approval
of
those
applications.
Y
B
Y
B
W
B
So
we're
gonna
need
a
special
and
emotion
on
all
six
of
these
items.
Okay.
Well
then,
here's
what
I'd
like
to
do
I
do
want
to
take
public
comment
on
this,
but
I
don't
want
to
do
it
six
times.
So
what
I'd
like
you
to
do
is
just
present
each
item.
I'll
ask
for
public
comment
on
any
of
them
and
then
we're
gonna
vote
on
each
one
that
need
to
be
voted
on.
Y
So
then
I
will
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
your
budget.
Amendment
summary
and
for
your
reference
number
one
and
number
two
are
related:
the
first
item
during
the
fiscal
year
2019
budget
adoption
process
the
board
approved
in
the
operating
budget
for
the
library's
expenditures
for
additional
security
camera
installations,
as
well
as
wireless
upgrades
in
conversation
with
information
technology.
Y
We
anticipate
that
those
projects
will
exceed
this
current
fiscal
year,
so
we
are
requesting
that
we
transfer
those
dollars
to
be
spent
from
the
capital
fund
in
order
for
us
to
ensure
that
the
availability
of
that
funding
to
complete
the
project
is
available
beyond
this
fiscal
year.
So
items
one
and
two
is
for
the
ability
to
move
those
dollars
from
the
general
fund.
Libraries.
Current
costs
enter
into
the
capital
fund
specific
for
these
projects
in.
Y
Is
the
total
correct?
Okay,
the
third
budget
amendment
summary
is
related
to
articles
40
and
42
sales
tax
dollars.
This
is
specific
dollars
that
we
are
in
receipt
of
that.
We
then
directly
pass
back
through
to
the
school
systems
for
their
school
capital
funding
and
in
accordance
with
the
average
daily
membership
membership
distribution.
Y
Items
number
four
and
five
are
related
on
the
budget.
Amendment
summary
this
is
in
relation
to
the
discussion
in
your
prior
Commission
meeting
on
November
the
20th
for
the
request
of
an
additional
1
million
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
needed
for
the
East
Asheville
branch
library,
construction
project
specific
to
the
schematic
design
for
the
East
Asheville
branch
library.
This
is
a
request
to
appropriate
additional
fund
balance
from
the
general
fund
and
establish
these
dollars
in
the
capital
projects
fund
to
pair
with
the
existing
dollars
already
identified
for
the
East
Asheville
branch
library.
B
N
B
X
Have
to
take
this
opportunity,
since
it's
a
public
comment,
it
will
be
documented,
I
hope,
since
these
are
budgets
matter
of
fact,
I
noticed
you
public
comment,
never
gets
document
in
your
menÃs
now
used
to
it
would
get
documented
once
in
a
while
wondering
why
we
don't
document
it
now,
something
you
might
want
to
look
into.
I
have
a
very
simple
question.
It
has
to
do
again
with.
X
So
I
want
to
remind
you.
How
much
does
each
library
cost
have
no
objection
to
West
Asheville,
getting
a
nice
new
library,
but
how
much
does
each
cost
and
how
many
books
were
checked
out
and
how
many
electronic
books
were
checked
out?
That's
the
same
thing
that
we
need
to
know
about
the
other
items,
the
housing
trust
fund,
the
fixing
up
at
the
houses.
It's
so
simple!
X
A
B
Great
thanks,
he
bails
all
right,
I,
think
the
first
item
and
I.
Please
want
to
make
sure
we
get
each
of
these
correctly,
so
I
believe
we
can
have
one
motion
to
approve
items:
1
&
2
or
do
we
need
a
separate
motion
on
1
&
2,
the?
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
move
$138,000
from
the
general
fund
to
the
capital
fund.
That's.
E
E
Want
to
make
a
comment,
since
our
library
director
is
with
a
sweet
leaf,
we've
heard-
and
this
is
about
about
lover-
we've
heard
comments
before
about
how
much
did
the
library's
calls?
You
know,
what's
you
know,
and
so
on
and
so
forth
so
I
mean
we
could
you
know
I
mean
that's,
certainly
something
we
can
easily
show.
You
know
over
time.
You
know
quarterly
once
a
year
whatever
and
show
that
so
the
easy
to
do.
B
W
A
E
C
B
A
B
P
Move
that
we
approve
Vivian,
Schneider
and
just
taking
a
moment
to
acknowledge
the
tremendous
active
service
this
represents
on
behalf
of
our
community
I
sit
on
this
body,
and
this
is
a
position
that
would
be
filled
by
a
parent
who
lost
a
child
before
their
18th
birthday.
It's
been
very,
very
hard
to
fill
this
position
in
our
community.
For
all
the
reasons
any
of
us
can
imagine
and.
I
B
And
the
other
board
is
the
adult
care
home,
Community
Advisory
Committee,
one
reappointment,
Paula
Garber
is
up
for
reappointment,
so
moved.
Second,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
right
and
we've
moved
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Board,
we'll
move
that
you
are
of
course
being
in
January.
Okay,.
B
X
X
They
bring
up
all
the
money
against
what
it's
going
to
be
a
million
dollars
a
year
old
down
the
road.
So
it's
amazing
and
I
saw
something
else.
No
Mike!
You
were
dead
on
there's
no
such
thing
as
free
somebody's
got
to
pay
for
it.
Those
free
rides
you're
being
paid
for
by
somebody,
and
if
that
money
is
going
to
the
federal
government,
we
only
get
about
a
quarter
or
30
cents
back
on
what
goes
up
there.
If
it
goes
to
Raleigh,
we
only
get
about
45
features
into
what
goes
down
there.
X
So
it's
it's
our
money,
this
paying
for
all
this
stuff,
I've
heard
the
previous
Commissioner
bill.
Stanton
said
it
was
like.
Well,
if
we
don't
get
it,
it's
free,
we're
gonna,
lose
it
no
boats,
it
ain't,
free
and
then
out
of
all
of
that
and
all
that
money
they
won't
in
their
plan
that
they
gave
you
extensions
into
the
county,
specifically
identified
by
city
of
Asheville.
I,
suggest
you
leave
what
he
put
up
there
on
the
board
to
go
through
each
of
those
slides.
Remember,
I,
said
a
minute
ago.
X
Setting
up
there
is
more
than
just
looking
pretty
put
your
big-boy
pants
on
you,
big
girl,
pants
on,
and
when
you
ask
the
hard
question,
I
watch
every
one
of
you
up
there
back
off.
If
start
Willis
good
we're
talking
about
combined
with
the
city
of
Nashville
know,
we
need
to
know
where
the
money's
going.
The
city
of
Asheville
needs
to
be.
Tell
you
how
many
riders
are
riding
on
that
line.
X
Maybe
some
of
the
county
city
councilmen
didn't
ask
those
questions,
which
is
why
the
bus
system
is
in
such
trouble,
because
folks,
there's
computer
programs
that
will
outline
truck
delivery
for
you
Roberts.
You
know
that
old
truck
delivery,
your
food
service
they
can,
they
got
computers
that
will
tell
the
truck
how
to
run
a
route
to
make
it
most
vigilant.
You
don't
have
to
do
us
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
study
and
that's
going
back
to
the
previous
administration
I'm
telling
you
folks.
Where
is
she
money
going?
How
many
is
riding
the
buses?
Z
I
just
wanna
thank
each
of
you
for
your
service
and
opportunity
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
put
this
in
front
of
you.
So
I
have
been
serving
in
family
in
crisis
in
Buncombe
County
in
this
community,
the
region
for
about
the
last
25
years,
and
there
has
been
a
number
of
times
that
I've
been
in
front
of
and
I
hate
to
say
it
again,
but
the
previous
administration
regarding
the
way
child
welfare
cases,
Child
Protective
Services
cases
were
handled.
I
am
thankful
for
mrs.
Snyder's
willness
to
serve
on
the
child
protection
fatality
prevention
team.
Z
It
is
a
it
is
a
it's
a
critical
need
that
we
have
in
this
county.
I
have
said
in
the
past
that
you
know
the
federal
government
does
inaud
it
on
state
North,
Carolina,
11
counties
data
was
pulled
from
11
counties,
Buncombe
County
was
one
of
them
and
it
showed
that
we
failed
to
meet
all
of
the
outcomes
that
were
measured
both
in
administrative
and
outcomes
for
children.
Z
The
one
thing
that
I
see
is
a
consistent
problem
in
the
handling
of
child
welfare
cases
is
the
improper
investigations,
incomplete
investigations
and
the
investigation
says
the
case
up
for
success
or
for
failure.
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
reforms
coming
down
both
from
the
state.
You
know
Raleigh's
gonna
be
regionalised.
There's
the
family's
first
act
that's
coming
along
and
we
have
the
Children's
Bureau,
who
is
requiring
North
Carolina
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
reform
child
welfare
in
the
state.
I
know
that
you
guys,
whoever
gets
appointed
to
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Board.
Z
What
I'm
asking
you
to
do
is
to
focus
on
investigations,
focus
on
investigations.
The
North
Carolina
Council
on
women
required
that
collateral
contacts
be
made.
Personal
contacts
be
made
during
investigations
that
informed
the
North
Carolina
Child
Welfare
policy.
Now
this
is
information
that
was
released
by
the
by
the
media
by
Buncombe
County
social
services
at
the
media's
request
and
the
pressure
for
public
records
request,
and
this
was
on
Lila,
Pickering
I-
don't
know
if
you
guys
remember
her
I,
believe
some
of
you
do
remember:
Little,
Miss,
Lila,
okay,
this
is
a
problem.
Z
Okay,
so
you'll
see
in
this
case
in
the
investigation
within
the
first
35
days
of
the
case,
there
were
three
reports
of
active
addiction
and
domestic
violence
within
the
first
30
days
of
the
case.
There
was
also
a
non
one.
One
call
where
you
could
hear
Lila
saying:
don't
hurt
my
mama
in
the
background,
there's
no
way
that
this
should
have
been
missed,
substantial
records
available.
We
this
that
child
was
left
with
him
for
a
year
and
a
half
there's
others
Elizabeth
Eccleston,
you
know
and
her
teenaged
parents.
Z
There
was
problems
in
the
backgrounds,
but
the
investigations
went
handle
properly.
Please
focus
on
the
mandate
to
conduct
interviews
with
collateral
contacts
during
investigations
set
these
cases
up
for
success.
You
know,
Jesus
said
that
let
the
little
children
come
to
me
and
don't
handrim,
so
you
guys
have
responsibility
for
that
and
I
hope
that
you
will
see
to
it.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
S
My
name
is
Leslie
Kaba
I
live
in
Nashville
and
I
was
just
wanting
to
call
attention
to
a
fact
that
last
week
in
the
Asheville
City
Council
meeting,
they
discussed
expanding
transit
into
they
said
into
the
county,
and
they
gave
totally
different
reasons
than
anything
I
heard
in
the
presentation.
They
were
talking
about
enabling
legislation
and
getting
the
county
to
agree
which
they
didn't
think
that
would
be
a
hard
hard
job
to
persuade
the
county
and
rather
than
blowing
things
by
memory.
S
N
Make
mr.
chairman
members
bored
I
ain't,
got
time
for
this
discussion
today,
but
I'll
be
back
to
see
and
that's
on
this
revaluation
crap,
but
they
presented
today.
Okay,
it
was
already
moved
up
one
time
now
you
won't
get
moved
up
again.
You
need
to
think
about
the
taxpayers,
not
how
you
want
to
spend
the
money.
Okay,
the
deadly
drug
crisis,
that
we
don't
consider
public
emergencies,
alcohol
and
tobacco
killed
far
more
people
than
opioids.
N
Should
they
be
considered
as
an
epidemic.
In
2016,
there
was
linked
to
more
deaths
than
gun
cars,
crashes
and
even
hiv/aids
at
the
highest
peak.
We're
not
talking
about
opioids.
Actually,
it
was
associated
with
more
deaths
than
guns
and
car
crashes
combined
I'm,
not
talking
about
opioids
I'm.
Talking
about
alcohol.
N
N
Yet
all
of
these
deaths
did
it
inspire
any
current
or
past
presidents
of
the
United
States
to
declare
a
public
health
emergency.
No,
not
until
President
Trump
declared
an
epidemic
on
opioids,
which
is
not
even
the
least
I
mean
it's
the
least
of
these
problems
that
I'm
talking
about
tonight.
So
what
is
the
issue?
N
B
B
The
County
Commission
has
tentatively
scheduled
to
hold
a
special
meeting
on
December
19th
at
2
p.m.
mr
Wood.
Has
that
time
been
confirmed,
we're
going
to
start
at
2
p.m.
and
that'll
be
a
special
meeting
where
we
will
go
into
closed
session
to
consider
applicants
for
the
county
manager
position
and
then
the
next
meeting
after
that
will
be
on
Wednesday
January,
the
2nd
at
5:00
p.m.
all
right.
We
do
have
a
need
for
a
closed
session
on
this
Hockaday.
Could
you
tell
us
what
the
item
is
working
going?
The
closed
session
for
yes,.
R
Mr.
chairman
need
a
motion
and
a
vote
to
go
into
closed
session
pursuant
to
north
carolina
general
statute.
143
318
point
11
a
3
to
discuss
a
legal
matter
with
retain
counsel
and
the
matter
is
Rab
Builders,
LLC,
petitioner
versus
Buncombe
County
respondent.
It's
a
notice
of
appeal
having
the
file
number
18,
CBS
2406,
all
right.