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Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on October 18, 2022. To review the full agenda visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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B
B
B
B
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
aye
any
post
all
right.
We
come
to
you
public
comment.
The
time
limit
for
individuals
to
make
comments
to
the
Board
of
Commissioners
is
three
minutes
and
when
you
have
about
30
seconds,
left
you're
going
to
get
an
orange
light
and
when
your
time's
up
you'll
get
a
red
light.
We
ask
that
you,
please
discontinue
your
comments
once
your
time's
up,
because
we
want
to
give
everyone
an
equal
amount
of
time
to
address
the
board.
B
So
we've
got
a
sign
up
sheet,
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
list
and
if
anybody
else
wants
to
address
the
board
after
I
get
through
the
list
of
folks
who
signed
up
there'll
be
an
opportunity
to
do
that
as
well.
I
apologize
in
advance
if
I
mispronounce,
anybody's
name
the
first
person
that
signed
up
is
minion
Durham.
B
C
The
developer
pulled
the
request
from
the
county
commissioner's
review,
and
now
the
developer
is
trying
to
force
the
issue
with
this
submission
of
a
major
subdivision,
269
units
using
the
rules
of
conservation,
easement,
Hillside
development
subdivision,
in
which
the
density
greatly
overrides
that
of
the
current
zoning,
provided
they
create
a
Perpetual
conservation
easement,
which
removes
the
Steep
hillsides
from
the
slope
calculations.
Furthermore,
this
process
side
steps
reviewed
by
your
planning
board
you
yourselves
and
it
does
not
allow
for
public
comment.
C
Only
this
week
did
only
the
adjacent
Property
Owners
receive
notification
of
this
process
that
has
been
underway
for
many
months.
Currently,
there
is
no
local
land
conservation
organization
willing
to
support
this
easement,
because
in
their
judgment
there
would
be
no
realized
public
benefit.
In
other
words,
this
is
a
sham
and
merely
a
process
for
increasing
density
in
an
area
that
simply
cannot
handle
such
density.
C
D
D
My
my
colleagues
are
not
here
with
me
today,
because
we
were
promised
we
were
promised
overtime
pay,
but
you
can't
get
overtime
pay
unless
you
drive
the
bus
in
the
morning.
You
do
your
job
in
the
middle
of
the
day,
you
drive
the
bus
in
the
afternoon
and
then
you
have
to
come
back
into
work
to
get
that
time.
So
most
of
us
get
they
get
off.
Excuse
me
they
get
off
at
4
30.
D
and
then
they
have
to
clock
back
in
to
receive
the
overtime
pay.
So
that
means
they
have
to
come
in
and
work
some
more
and
so
I'm.
Just
asking
that
you,
you
all
think
about
it.
I
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
I,
believe
the
the
budget
comes
from
you
for,
as
from
you
for
Asheville
City
schools
and
so
I'm.
Just
asking
that
you
give
us
a
living
wage
that
we
can,
because,
as
you
can
see,
you
know,
gas
is
going
up.
D
D
E
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
share
some
comments
similar
to
minion
I,
also
live
in
the
pinners
Cove
area
and
she's
covered
the
highlights
there
and
in
January
this
was
voted
down
by
the
planning
board.
Six
two
one,
but
nothing's
changed,
except
that
there's
now
going
to
be
a
Conservation
Area
that
allows
them
to
go
ahead
and
do
dense
Building
without
changing
the
zoning
right
now
there
are
approximately
250
address
points
in
the
pinner's
Cove
area.
E
With
this
one
subdivision,
this
will
more
than
double
the
population
without
any
of
the
infrastructure
improvements
that
are
required.
This
is
not
just
the
streets
that
are
a
problem,
not
just
pinner's
Cove,
but
Mills,
Gap
and
Sweden
Creek,
but
there's
also
the
schools,
the
fire
department,
EMTs
and
Sheriff.
None
of
this
is
really
sized
to
support
any
growth
of
this
type
in
this
area,
and
this
really
does
need
to
be
shut
down
right
now.
The
Dot
may
have
a
separate
budget
than
the
Buncombe
County,
but
the
two
are
not
mutually
exclusive
topics.
E
F
Hello
and
thank
you
for
having
us
here
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
last
week
the
Asheville
sister
cities
program
received
from
the
city
of
Asheville
mayor,
mannheimer,
Proclamation,
stating
October
as
actual
sister
cities
month
and
myself.
The
president
of
the
organization
and
Ken
Nelson
here
just
want
to
encourage
involvement
from
our
County
Commissioners.
In
upcoming
events,
that
will
be
happening
that
promote
not
just
the
city
of
Asheville,
but
the
county
itself
and
surrounding
areas.
F
We
are
an
international
organization
based
representing
the
city
of
Asheville
to
help
further
understanding
at
all
levels
of
the
community
on
a
continuing
and
long-term
basis,
pairing
our
communities
directly
involving
international
relations
and
rewarding
exchanges
with
projects
that
benefit
everyone
involved.
We
have
seven
different
sister
cities
that
Asheville's
partnered
with
globally
and
in
2023.
We
will
be
receiving
three
delegations
from
our
sister
cities
that
we
would
invite
you
to
participate
in
I
believe
the
last
one
was
our
Nigerian
sister
city
of
ashokbo.
F
G
Thank
you,
Jessica
and
I
really
want
to
stress
that
Jessica
has
been
nominated,
actually
he's
been
elected
to
the
sister
cities
International
board,
so
we
have
a
representative
now
on
the
national
board
and
we
are
traveling.
In
fact,
I
am
headed
to
Mexico
next
week,
Jessica's
heading
to
South
Africa.
You
know
we
are
representing
the
city
and
the
county
in
in
a
lot
of
different
venues
and
trying
to
promote
Asheville
to
the
world.
So
it's
an
important
organization.
It
has
a
lot
of
roots
and
does
a
lot
of
good,
culturally,
educationally
commercially.
G
We
work
on
many
levels
with
our
sister
cities
and
in
fact
we're
going
down
to
Mexico.
Is
our
project
is
working
with
Mayan
women
to
promote
small
businesses,
raising
B
Holland
honey
from
indigenous
bees
and
malapanoma
bees
melopona
bees.
So
it's
it's
a
great
organization
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
this
at
the
county.
F
Rebecca
kindly
passed
out
our
most
recent
newsletter
that
Recaps
our
last
since
January
events
that
have
happened
and
events
that
are
coming
up
and
I
would
like
to
take
this
time
to
invite
all
of
you
to
attend.
In
person
our
annual
meeting
on
November,
the
6th
at
Highland
brewing's
barrel
room.
We
will
be
celebrating
our
30th
Anniversary
as
an
organization
here
in
this
area.
So
thank
you.
Hey.
B
H
But
I
will
speak
to
some
of
the
things
that
are
concerning
me
as
both
a
parent,
a
homeowner
and
a
resident
of
penner's
Cove.
Roughly,
it
takes
me
15
minutes
to
go
from
my
home
to
the
end
of
the
road
and
that's
approximately
three
quarters
of
a
mile.
So
why
does
it
take
me
15
minutes
because
of
traffic
current
traffic
and,
as
it
was
pointed
out
earlier,
there
are
only
two
250
homes
on
the
property.
H
Now
my
subdivision
is
18
homes,
which
is
typical,
the
new
one's
going
to
be
269
homes,
which
again,
as
it
was
said,
it
would
double
the
capacity
or
the
number
of
homes
on
our
road.
That's
a
major
concern.
I
also
have
three
children
that
are
going
to
be
of
driving
age
very
soon,
one
already
driving.
It
worries
me
trying
to
get
out
of
our
road,
which
has
no
stoplight.
H
Some
of
the
other
things
I'd
like
to
speak
to
is
the
breakdown
of
the
roads.
The
roads
are
poorly
maintained
in
this
area
and
again
we
know
the
classification
of
these
roads
based
on
the
number
of
homes,
is
probably
low
down
on
the
scale.
We
know
that
because
of
snow
plow
we're
the
last
to
get
plowed,
which
is
understandable.
There
are
not
that
many
homes
now
we're
going
to
double
the
size
or
more
than
double.
Are
they
going
to
repair
the
roads
before
they
put
this
subdivision
in?
We
know
that
we
can't
stop
this
growth.
H
H
H
I
don't
know
when
the
last
time
the
bridge
was
repaired
but
being
an
engineer,
I've
looked
at
the
bridge
and
it's
it's
substandard
in
my
mind,
probably
not
in
the
state's
mind,
but
if
you've
gone
around
and
looked
at
it,
it's
been
washed
out.
So
those
are
concerns.
Another
concern
is:
how
would
this
conservation
be
handled?
H
I
know.
There's
a
it
was
passed
to
me
that
there's
a
30
million
dollar
open
space
bond
is
that
money
going
to
be
a
40
down
to
the
conservation.
As
we
said
earlier,
nobody's
taken
up
this
conservation,
none
of
the
people
that
they
reached
out
to
to
take
it
over
has
agreed
to
it.
So
is
the
county
going
to
manage
that.
H
I
Just
would
ask
that
the
County
Commissioners
look
at
the
validity
of
this
and
that
all
major
subdivisions
currently
defined
as
anything
over
11
units
must
require
planning
board
public
comment
and
County
Commission
approval.
Not
just
slipping
it
through
is
essentially
the
same
thing
that
was
voted
down.
Thank
you.
B
All
right,
thank
you
for
coming
out.
That's
everyone
that
signed
up.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
public?
You
would
like
to
address
the
board
during
public
comment:
okay,
Commissioners.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
under
good
news
is
the
I
voted
sticker
contest
and
I.
Think
some.
We
have
some
folks
from
election
Services
who
are
here
to
explain
this
item.
So
thank
you
for
being
with
us.
K
K
B
B
B
N
Elena
and
April.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
domestic
violence.
Awareness
Month,
whereas
domestic
violence,
which
can
include
physical,
mental,
sexual,
emotional
and
financial
abuse,
is
a
means
of
intimidation
and
violence
to
influence
and
control,
a
partner
involved
in
an
intimate
relationship
and
whereas,
according
to
the
Centers
for
Disease
Control
and
prevention,
approximately
one
in
Four
Women
in
nearly
one
in
ten
men
experienced
some
form
of
partner,
intimate
partner
violence,
including
sexual
violence,
physical
violence
and
or
stalking
during
their
lifetime,
and
nearly
half
of
transgender
and
non-binary
people.
N
Experience
intimate
partner
violence
and
whereas
domestic
violence
survivors
in
rural
areas.
Those
who
struggle
socioeconomically
those
who
are
immigrants
and
those
who
are
members
of
racial
and
minor
ethnic
minority
groups
and
those
who
are
members
of
the
lgbtqia2s
plus
Community,
continue
to
be
among
the
most
affected
and
whereas
domestic
violence
accounts
for
21
percent
and
intimate
partner.
Violence
accounts
for
15
percent
of
all
violent
crime
in
the
United
States,
and
these
crimes
are
underreported
or
not
reported
at
all.
N
L
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
the
commission
and
accounting
leadership.
Helpmate
serves
3
600
survivors
of
domestic
violence
every
single
year
and
these
kind
of
gestures.
They
really
do
matter.
It
matters
that
the
community
knows
that
survivors
in
our
community
know
that
our
County
leadership
cares
about
them,
recognizes
their
struggle
and
works
to
find
solutions
to
this
problem.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
this.
For
this
Proclamation
and
for
your
ongoing
support
of
survivors.
B
K
Commissioner,
as
has
been
our
practice
since
we
adopted
a
comprehensive
strategic
plan,
we
do
bring
forward
every
Focus
era
every
quarter
to
show
you
where
we
are
in
our
progress,
and
this
quarter
is
the
Environmental
Focus
area.
It
came
over
from
briefing
so
we'll
add
it
now
and
then
we'll
move
into
storm
preparedness.
K
O
O
As
you
recall,
every
two
months
we
bring
a
strategic
Plan
Focus
area
to
give
you
an
update
on
how
we're
doing
the
Strategic
plan
today,
you'll
be
hearing
from
Jeremiah
Leroy
and
Jennifer
Harrison
about
environmental
energy
stewardship
and
then
in
about
two
months,
you'll
be
hearing
from
our
resident
well-being
group
and
after
that,
you'll
hear
from
our
educate
and
capable
group.
I
will
note
that
our
online
public-facing
dashboard
at
the
moment
is
down.
O
P
So,
as
you
may
recall,
last
year,
I
believe
it
was
around
June
or
July.
You
decided
to
create
a
subcommittee
to
help
address
this
strategic,
Plan,
Focus
Group
and,
as
you
can
see
here,
the
mission.
The
basic
idea
is
to
help
us
give
guidance
around
some
of
the
items
such
as
renewable
energy
transition
and
our
conservation
easement
work
as
well
as
Solid
Waste
issues
and
air
quality
and
water
quality.
P
P
We
supported
the
open
space
Bond
and
decided
to
set
a
goal
around
conservation
at
20
percent
of
Buncombe
County.
The
the
subcommittee
has
also
put
together
a
list
of
priorities,
so
the
items
that
they
would
like
to
work
on
working
on
water
quality.
Right
now
we
continue
the
renewable
energy
transition.
We
discussed
that
frequently
as
there's
lots
of
opportunity
here
in
the
county.
P
So
that's
the
update
on
the
our
subcommittee
now
the
Strategic
plan
goals.
We
have
two
under
this
Focus
area.
We
have
The
Preserve,
Farm
farmland
and
environmentally
sensitive
tracks
and
we
have
the
reduced
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
I'll
speak
to
you
on
the
first
and
Jeremiah
will
take
care
of
the
second.
P
we
can
serve
240
acres
roughly
in
that
fiscal
year
we
jumped
up
significantly
in
fiscal
year
2022
and
the
there's
a
direct
correlation
there.
The
funding
for
conservation,
easements,
coming
out
of
the
general
fund
in
2021,
was
about
240
000
in
2022,
750
000,
and
you
can
see
we
were
able
to
do
significantly
more
work
with
those
added
funds
as
well
as
you
gave
us
an
extra
person
to
work
on
it,
so
it
was
fantastic,
and
for
this
year
we're
already
at
almost
680
Acres,
only
a
few
months
into
the
fiscal
year.
P
P
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
the
story
of
one
of
the
Farms
that
has
benefited
from
our
conservation.
Easement
work,
that's
Jasper,
wood
farm
and
Jasper
wood
is
a
century
Farm
which
I
think
most
of
you
know
that
that's
a
farm
that's
been
in
farming
for
a
hundred
years.
At
least
this
Farm
is
in
Newfound,
and
these
are
actual
pictures
of
the
farm
that
you're
seeing
it's
274
acres
and
the
coal
family.
It's
a
great
story,
because
the
Cole
family
has
built
this
back.
P
It
was
down
to
almost
nothing
and
they
have
made
a
conservative,
concerted
effort
to
buy
back
the
lands
and
now
they're
up
to
274
Acres
that
they
are
conserving
in
easements
right
now.
Another
really
awesome
thing
about
this:
Farm
is
it's
Diversified,
it
is,
you
know
they
do
no-tail
squash
and
pumpkins.
They
have
Christmas
trees,
it's
forested.
They
also
do
sheep
and
other
livestock
and
I'm
not
sure
if
Anthony
is
still
producing,
but
he
historically
produces
for
a
local
restaurant
as
well.
P
Q
Foreign
good
evening,
thank
you
for
not
pushing
us
back
two
weeks.
I'm
really
excited
to
talk
to
you
about
the
great
work
that
we've
got
going
on.
So,
as
you
know,
the
second
goal
for
our
strategic
plan
is
the
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
work
that's
being
done
through
the
sustainability
office
and
what
we've
accomplished
not
only
for
our
internal
goals
but
for
some
of
our
external
goals
as
well.
Q
I
can't
tell
you
how
happy
I
am
to
tell
you
that
that
solar
farm
that
you've
probably
heard
me
talk
about
many
many
times
is
finally
going
live
late,
November
early
December.
So
that
is
a
massive
win
for
us.
It's
something
we've
been
working
on
for
a
long
time
and
we're
very
happy
that
it's
finally
just
about
up
and
running
almost
ready
to
flip
the
switch
as
well.
As
you
know,
we
have
lots
of
solar
projects
going
on.
We
have
15
on-site
renewable
projects
going
on
on
county-owned
facilities.
We've
got
as
as
Jennifer
mentioned.
Q
Only
four
have
actually
been
received
at
this
point,
I'm
sure
you
all
have
heard
cars
are
hard
to
come
by
right
now,
but
they're
they're,
coming
and
they're
on
order.
We've
also
adopted
a
flexible
workplace
policy
that
we
hope
will
reduce
additional
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
the
community
by
enabling
our
Workforce
to
stay
at
home
and
not
have
to
drive
to
work
and
commute
as
much.
Obviously,
there's
been
some
challenges.
The
last
two
years
are
full
of
them.
Q
We
have
not
been
immune
to
those
supply
chain
concerns
unavailable
products
have
made
these
projects
takes
longer
than
we
would
have
liked,
but
I
am
happy
to
say
that
most
things
are
really
really
moving
now
and
on
schedule
and
we're
feeling
really
good
about
where
we're
at
now.
Where
are
we
with
our
2030
goal?
This
is
the
one
I
really
want
to
show
you,
because
I'm
very
excited
about
it.
Q
It's
important
to
understand
that
that
that's
not
a
static
number
energy
consumption
is
a
is
a
moving
Target,
and
so
that
number
is
essentially
an
aggregate
of
several
years
of
information
sort
of
collected
together
to
give
us
a
general
concept
of
what
our
overall
energy
consumption
is.
Fleet
fuels
electricity,
natural
gas
Etc.
Currently
our
on-site
projects
are
about
seven
percent
of
that
goal.
Q
Our
Woodfin
project
would
be
about
40
percent
of
that
goal
and,
as
as
you
can
tell
pretty
easy,
math
there's
about
52
percent
remaining
as
I
spoke
to
vehicle
emissions
earlier
I
think
it's
really
important
to
note
that
approximately
35
percent
of
our
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
from
our
Fleet,
and
so
another
big
chunk
of
that
goal
can
be
met
by
continuing
to
push
forward
with
clean
vehicles.
So
significant
progress
can
continue
to
be
made
because
we
do.
Q
That
said,
our
internal
goal
is
not
our
only
goal,
so
we've
gotten
a
number
of
community
initiatives
as
well.
This
is
one
of
my
favorite
pictures.
We
just
got
this
one
of
the
Montfort
North
Star
Academy
is
not
only
does
it
show
this
great
sort
of
weird
building
with
lots
of
different
types
of
roofs
and
a
great
solar
project,
but
it
just
shows
how
darn
beautiful
our
community
is.
So
we've
got
solar
on
public
facilities
going
in
all
over
the
county
on
schools,
community
centers
libraries
23
renewable
projects
that
are
ongoing.
Q
Currently,
five
additional
renewable
projects
coming
to
bid
probably
on
Halloween
day
actually
is
when
I'm
going
to
get
that
out.
In
addition,
as
you've
heard
many
times,
we
have
our
weatherization
program
and
this
these
numbers
are,
since
we
adopted
the
Strategic
plan.
So,
since
that
time
in
2020,
365
residences
have
been
weatherized,
47
of
those
are
members
of
our
bipod
community.
In
addition,
just
last
year
we
started
a
low-income
solar
program
and
we
have
16
additional
installations
going
in
on
low-income
community
members
homes.
Q
B
Well,
it's
a
great
update
and
obviously
just
tons
of
great
great
work
being
done.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
checking
in
and
you
know,
I
know,
I
speak
for
Parker
and
Terry.
We
really
enjoy
working
with
everybody
on
the
subcommittee
level
and
we
have
some
great
community
members
who
are
really
contributing
a
lot
too
so
anyway,
thanks
for
all
the
great
work,
great
job
to
everybody,
on
your
teams
and
keep
it
up.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
R
B
S
S
S
During
the
preliminary
damage
assessment
process
for
Fred,
we
were
using
multiple
spreadsheets
to
collect
data.
There
were
calls
coming
into
the
emergency
services
office
prior
to
standing
up
our
storm
damage
hotline.
There
were
the
calls
that
came
into
the
hotline,
and
then
there
was
the
data
that
was
being
collected
in
the
field.
S
S
In
terms
of
our
County
radio
system
during
the
storm,
there
were
many
instances
when
responders
were
not
able
to
communicate
on
the
County's
radio
system
due
to
the
number
of
people
that
were
attempting
to
talk.
At
the
same
time,
this
jeopardizes
the
safety
of
responders
and
the
public,
and
because
of
this,
we
identified
the
need
for
a
plan
to
divert
non-emergency
storm
calls
to
an
alternative
means
of
communication.
S
Communication
with
the
public
is
also
critical
during
these
types
of
events.
Disaster
events
are
rapidly
changing
situations
and
we
must
keep
the
public
informed
as
the
situation
changes.
This
means
from
the
early
warning
phase
to
the
response
phase
and
through
the
various
stages
of
the
recovery
process.
S
And
in
terms
of
critical
resources,
due
to
the
current
location,
the
County
garage
is
susceptible
to
flooding,
causing
the
potential
to
be
cut
off
from
critical
resources
such
as
spare
ambulances
and
increasingly
vulnerable
fuel
supplies.
The
key
lesson
we
took
from
this
was
the
need
for
continuity
planning,
including
backup
locations
and
alternate
fuel
supplies.
S
In
terms
of
how
we
worked
through
these
lessons,
as
stated,
we
had
identified
the
need
to
create
a
standalone
damage
assessment
response
team.
We
had
convened
a
Planning
Group
with
the
Departments
that
are
represented
here
on
this
slide
and
we
began
meeting
in
June
to
discuss
our
experiences
with
tropical
storm
Fred
and
determine
the
best
solution
for
collecting
preliminary
damage
assessment
data
for
future
events.
S
S
S
The
damage
assessment,
Response
Team
guide,
was
distributed
to
the
team
members.
The
IT
department
purchased
10
iPads
for
team
members
to
use
for
field
data
collection
and
those
are
stored
at
the
emergency
services
office
to
be
deployed
to
team
members.
When
they're
activated,
we
held
a
team
member
orientation
at
the
end
of
August.
S
S
We
worked
with
it
to
update
the
messaging
on
the
hotline
and
ensure
that
designated
staff
how
to
access
to
take
calls
as
well
as
retrieve
voicemails
as
hurricane
Ian
approached
the
script
from
tropical
storm
Fred
was
updated
to
reflect
the
new
initial
damage
report
form
on
your
screen.
There
is
a
small
example
of
some
of
the
questions
on
the
form
call
takers
populate
the
information
on
the
form
which
feeds
into
the
same
spreadsheet
as
the
information
gathered
through
residents
accessing
this
form
on
the
County
website
and
self-reporting
damages.
T
Good
evening,
so
with
any
storm,
whether
it's
a
hurricane
or
winter,
storm,
there's
a
potential
for
a
need
for
Sheltering.
So
in
anticipation
of
that,
we
always
coordinate
very
closely
with
the
Red
Cross.
We
met
with
them,
also
met
with
the
Health
and
Human
Services
Public
Health
preparedness
coordinator
and
the
City
of
Astro
emerging
management
teams
to
review
our
plans
and
make
sure
we're.
On
the
same
page,
we
pre-designated
a
couple
shelter
locations
in
case
we
needed
and
pre-staged
Equipment
there
DSS
in
North
Carolina,
is
by
Statute
required
to
help
assist
in
Staffing
these
shelters.
T
So
we
reviewed
our
rosters
and
our
training
capacities
within
our
social
work
and
economic
Services
teams,
and
we
also
had
our
community
paramedics
do
Outreach
to
our
unhoused
communities
to
inform
them
of
dangers
and
flood
risks.
And
historically,
we've
had
some
particular
communities
who
tend
to
flood
and
have
displaced
persons,
and
so
we
always
communicate
with
them
as
well
to
decrease
the
likelihood
of
us
required
staff,
shelters.
S
Emergency
Services
converted
our
conference
frame
into
a
temporary
Emergency
Operations
Center
to
accommodate
a
partial
activation
staff,
developed
an
EOC
Staffing
plan
and
schedule
for
Friday
night
into
Saturday
and
revised
that
as
the
storm
moved
closer
and
the
timing,
accelerated
Logistics
plans,
including
sleeping
arrangements
to
accommodate
24-hour
operations,
as
well
as
the
purchase
of
bottled
water
and
meal
planning,
were
made
two
days
prior
to
storm
impact.
In
case
local
businesses
happen
to
be
closed.
S
Weather
information
was
pushed
out
to
the
fire
chiefs
three
times
a
day
for
the
48
hours
prior
to
the
storm
event,
and
we
also
conducted
daily
briefings
with
County
management
and
key
department.
Heads
emergency
services,
staff
verified
contact,
information
for
area
utility
companies.
We
held
a
detailed
briefing
with
the
fire
chiefs
the
day
priority
impact
and
plans
were
made
for
the
operational
coordination
of
water,
rescue
and
structural
rescue
resources
during
the
storm.
S
The
urban
search
and
rescue
Task
Force
2
is
managed
by
Buncombe
County
Emergency
Services,
with
Team
membership
from
fire
departments
throughout
the
county.
This
team's
Primary
Response
area
is
the
western
part
of
the
state
that
they
are
Deployable
Statewide
and
we
begin
standing
this
team
up
prior
to
Tropical
or
hurricane
Ian
to
brace
for
impact.
S
S
S
At
this
point
we
had
developed
a
preliminary
team
roster
completed
fueling
and
made
arrangements
for
team
locations
and
meals.
Based
on
the
forecast
we
communicated
to
North
Carolina
emergency
management
that
we
would
not
be
releasing
this
team
to
deploy
outside
Buncombe
County
until
the
storm
had
passed
through.
S
The
day
prior
to
the
storm,
the
team
roster
was
finalized.
All
trucks
and
trailers
were
loaded
and
team
leaders
were
briefed
and
pre-trip
inspections
were
performed
on
the
screen.
You
see
an
example
of
only
one
page
of
the
vehicle
inspection
form.
There's
a
six
page
form
completed,
including
pictures
of
all
sides
for
each
trailer
and
Tow
vehicle
to
document
the
pre-storm
condition
of
the
equipment.
In
case
damage
occurs
during
the
response.
S
Multiple
departments
provided
task
force
staff.
For
this
event,
however,
it's
important
to
note
that
there
are
several
other
fire
departments
that
also
have
members
on
this
task
force.
However,
Staffing
for
each
event,
is
based
on
availability
within
each
department
at
any
given
time
and
finally,
Ian
had
a
change
of
plans.
S
B
U
B
And
I've
also
just
I
would
share
you
know.
I
know
our
constituents
in
Buncombe
County
really
appreciate
this,
but
also
as
a
county
commissioner
I
hear
from
our
neighbors
elsewhere
in
Western
North
Carolina
as
well
about
how
much
they
appreciate
the
cooperation
and
support
from
from
Buncombe
County
when
there's
a
regional
need
as
well.
So
thanks
so
much
for
to
your
team
for
thinking
about
the
region
as
a
whole
and
helping
out
our
neighbors,
just
as
we
would
want
them
to
help
out
us
if
we
ever
needed
it
as
well.
B
So
thank
you
all
all
right,
Avril
anything
else.
Okay,
great
all
right
next
up
under
old
business,
is
an
update
on
the
ad
hoc
reappraisal
committee,
recommendations
and
follow-up
action
items
and
Keith
Miller.
Our
tax,
assessor
and
Burnett
walls
from
strategy
and
Innovation
are
here
to
help
us
out
with
this
item.
B
V
Start
back
first,
on
a
little
background
before
we've
came
from
so
after
the
2021
reappraisal
this
board,
my
office,
County
Manager,
we
all
were
filled
in
filled
in
questions
about
the
reappraisal
equity
and
the
reappraisal.
Many
items
that
we
felt
needed
to
be
addressed.
It
led
us
into
this
board
I
appointed
a
ad
Opera
appraisal
committee
to
come
up
with
ideas
on
how
we
could
do
things
better
and
how
we
could
improve
the
process,
which
I
think
was
a
great
success.
V
We
still
have
some
of
those
committee
members
here
with
us
tonight
who
have
continued
to
be
support
through
this
process.
All
the
way
to
the
end
and
I
truly
appreciate
what
they've
done
for
us.
So
we
were
here
a
few
weeks
ago
in
the
committee,
the
ad
hoc
committee
presented
with
you
to
you
the
recommendations
in
which
they
had
from
those
meetings
and
then
I
come
back
this
evening.
To
then
talk
to
you
about
some
action
plans
that
we'll
put
to
those
recommendations.
So
we'll
start
with
the
recommendations
from
the
committee.
V
The
ad
hoc
appraisal
committee
recommendations,
increase
education
and
Outreach
increase
capacity
in
the
assessment,
Department
development
assessment
policies
to
optimize
tax
revenue,
enhance
permit
and
permitting
compliance,
and
then
the
staff
recommendations
with
that
is
to
increase
the
education
Outreach
and
improve
assessment
data
quality.
So
the
staff,
along
with
strategy
and
Innovation
support,
has
been
working
for
weeks
to
put
together
action
plans
to
achieve
these
items.
V
Mention
is
that
when
we
talked
about
the
sales
ratio
studies-
and
we
talked
about
the
concern
from
some
of
our
residents
about
possibly
inequities
between
our
our
mid
to
low
valued
homes
versus
our
have
high
value
homes
and
and
we've
kept
that
in
the
Forefront
through
this,
and
although,
through
this
presentation,
you
probably
won't
hear
me
pinpoint
an
action
plan
to
fix
that.
But
what
I
want
you
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
all
these
action
plans
will
contribute
to
that,
because
it's
not
one
thing
that
will
that
will
make
this
better.
V
V
Starting
with
number
one
increase
the
education
and
Outreach,
so
the
committee,
the
recommendations,
leverage,
social
media,
faith-based
organization
and
non-profits
to
engage
and
educate
the
community
we've
put
together
a
partnership
with
our
internal
Cape
team
to
develop
a
comprehensive
communication
engagement
plan
over
the
next
two
years
to
inform
our
community
about
reappraisal,
help
them
better
understand
what
it's
about,
how
it
happens,
why
we
do
it
and
so
on.
Some
things
that
will
come
from
that
plan
will
be
Community
meetings
possible,
newsletters,
going
out
to
our
residents
and
a
robust
print
and
social
media
outreach.
V
We
have
put
an
RFP
on
the
street
and
we're
interviewing
contractors
to
help
us
with
that
Outreach
campaign
currently
and
that's
currently
budgeted
in
our
FY
23
budget
for
100
000.
For
that
that
contractor
we're
really
excited
about
that.
We
know
it's
going
to
be
a
robust
plan.
We
plan
to
use
that
to
reach
as
many
of
our
residents
in
Buncombe
County
to
help
them
better
understand
the
process
as
possible,
then
reassess
limits
on
exemptions
to
expand
eligibility
and
participation.
V
V
Currently,
if
you're
an
elderly
resident
65
years
of
age
and
don't
have
income
to
exceed
Thirty
One
Thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
a
year,
you
can
qualify
for
an
exemption
on
your
property
value,
but
what
many
people
are
telling
us
is
that
the
income
limits
are
too
low.
Is
that
Thirty,
One
Thousand
nine
hundred
dollars
is
not
including
everyone
in
the
program
that
needs
to
be
included
in
the
program?
Do
we
need
to
re-look
at
it?
V
V
Many
other
counties
are
discussing
how
we
can
make
a
change
here
and
who,
across
the
state,
we
could
help
Lobby
for
that
change,
so
that
that's
something
there
that
this
board
can
decide
that
if
you
want
to
legislate,
go
to
the
legislators
on
that.
No
new
cost
at
this
time.
For
that
effort,
continued
on
the
education
and
Outreach
partner,
with
our
local
board
of
realtors,
to
provide
assistance
in
education
on
assessment
and
or
the
appeal
process.
V
We
will
start
in
January
putting
on
clinics,
hopefully
twice
a
week
in
the
communities
around
the
county,
where
residents
can
come
meet
with
a
realtor
and
if
they
need
comparables
to
figure
out
help
them
win
their
appeal,
a
realtor
to
give
them
advice
on
what
the
value
of
their
property
may
be,
help
them
work
through
that
help
them
file
the
appeal,
then
those
Realtors
will
be
available
on
a
volunteer
basis
week
by
week
to
help
them
through
that.
We're
very
excited
that
landiska
Association
of
Realtors
has
decided
to
to
join
in
with
us
on
that.
V
We're
also
with
that.
Looking
for
a
legal
office
to
join
with
us
in
that
partnership
also
to
help
those
residents
who
may
need
assistance
in
preparing
an
appeal
even
to
the
Board
of
Equalization
and
review
help
them
better
understand
the
statutes
when
it
comes
to
exemptions,
what
they
may
qualify
for,
what
they
may
not
and
why
they
would
not
so
that
that
would
be
the
next
effort
in
that
appeals.
Clinic
provide
expert,
Community
ambassador
to
provide
education
in
the
appraisal
process,
evaluate
the
need
for
the
community
Ambassador
based
on
response
with
the
appeals
clinic.
V
So
it
will
probably
be
a
County
employee
because
to
try
and
find
a
volunteer
that
has
the
knowledge
of
property
tax
that
it
would
take
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
represent
us
to
help
to
to
help
the
residents
better
understand
what's
available
to
them,
may
not
be
actually
somebody
that
we
can
find
so
we
also
we
did
can
talk
about
it
would
take
an
employee.
Maybe
someone
who's
been
in
the
business
for
many
years
and
have
better
understanding
of
what
was
available
to
the
residents.
B
B
V
V
V
We
currently
are
reviewing
all
the
MLS
listings
that
comes
through
the
multiple
listing
service.
This
is
a
change
in
process
that
did
come
from
some
of
the
conversations
from
the
committee.
What
the
process
used
to
be
is
that
our
staff
will
review
sales
transactions
in
an
effort
to
qualify
those
sales
to
be
used
in
the
analysis
for
the
next
reappraisal
from
those
sales
transactions,
then
we
would
often
find
unlisted
improvements
on
those
properties
in
which
we
would
go
back
and
and
put
an
assessment
on.
V
The
change
in
that
process
is
now
we're
getting.
We
want
to
get
in
front
of
it
so,
every
week,
every
listing
that
comes
through
the
multiple
listing
service
where
it
is
sold
or
not
our
staff
reviews
it
immediately.
So
if
you
list
your
home
today,
probably
within
three
days,
a
staff
person
is
going
to
be
looking
at
it
to
look.
V
W
V
So
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
improvements
is
a
self-reported
system.
Every
property
under
my
statute
is
required
to
report
to
the
assessor's
office
improvements
to
your
property.
If
you
don't
improve
report
those
improvements,
then
the
statute
also
gives
the
ability
for
the
assessor
to
assess
penalties
upon
you
on
that
assessment.
So
here's
what
that
would
look
like.
So
as
an
example,
let's
say
you
have
a
two-story
house
when
you
built
the
house,
you
only
had
the
first
story
finished
living
area.
The
upstairs
was
not
finished.
V
We
go
through
time
and
now
you're
in
at
five
years
and
your
side
you're
going
to
finish
the
upstairs.
So
you
yourself
as
a
handy
person,
you
finish
the
upstairs
now
it's
a
living
area,
but
you
never
reported
that
to
us
or
you
maybe
even
never
got
a
permit
for
it
or
maybe
you
didn't
have
to
get
a
permit
for
it,
but
it
was
never
reported.
We
never
knew
that
so
now,
let's
say
that
the
home
sales
or
it
comes
on
the
market
or
we
find
out.
V
We
now
put
that
assessment
on
that
additional
square
feet.
The
statute
gives
us
the
ability
to
go
back
six
years
to
capture
the
value
that
escaped
taxation
with
penalties
as
high
as
60
percent
or,
if
it's
another
part
of
the
statute
that
gives
us
the
ability
that
we
could
go
back
10
years
with
no
penalties,
only
interest
paid
on
the
taxes,
so
there's
REM.
That's
the
remedies
for
collecting
that
data,
which
has
not
been
reported
from
the
property
owners,
did
not
answer
your
question.
V
All
the
customers
find
out,
so
we
give
notice
to
the
property
owner
of
whomever
the
property
owner
was
at
the
time
that
the
value
Escape
taxation.
So
if
you
owned
it
today
and
you
sold
it
tomorrow
and
you
never
reported
that
to
me,
we
would
still
give
you
the
notice
and
the
taxes
would
be
in
your
name.
However,
what
often
happens
is
that
the
new
owner
will
get
stuck
with
that
tax
bill,
because
the
prior
owner
has
the
ability
to
walk
away.
V
V
That's
another
reason
that
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
it
if
we
can
get
ahead
of
it
on
as
these
as
we
find
this
information
and
get
the
assessment
done
and
the
lien
on
the
property,
then
that
would
have
to
be
paid
before
closing
or
at
closing.
So
the
new
owner
does
not
have
the
burden
of
that
tax
bill
is.
V
V
We
look
at
that,
often
and
and
try
and
say
if,
if
you
tell
us
that
you've
added
a
fireplace
to
your
house,
is
that
a
substantial
value
that
has
escaped
Taxation
and
the
answer
to
that
is
probably
no
because
it
we
have
to
also
look
at
what
it
takes
to
collect
that
and
also
put
the
notices
out,
do
the
assessment
on
it.
So
if
the,
if
the
value
is
too
small,
then
it
it's
really
you're
not
getting
a
return
on
the
taxes
to
even
determine,
if
that's
worth
it
or
not.
V
So
substantial,
of
course,
is
a
word
that
creates
some
gray
area
for
us,
but
I
think
if
you
find
a
house
that
is
underreported
in
a
thousand
square
feet
of
living
area,
that's
substantial
is
a
fireplace
substantial,
probably
not
now
what
is
in
between
there.
There
is
some
gray
area
on
how
we
handle
that
Keith.
V
It
actually
does
happen
often,
and
we
are
currently
now
building
a
report
around
that.
So
I
can
better
help.
You
better
understand
what
those
numbers
look
like
and
what
that
value
looks
like,
but
we
do
them
every
week.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
found
them
every
week
and
they
don't
always
come
from
the
multiple
listing
service.
We
often
have
reporting
from
Neighbors
or
people
that
may
have
prior
owned.
The
house
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
that
we've
we've
get
reported
to
us
other
than
just
the
owner.
V
Correct
and
I
think
we
reported
to
you
at
one
point.
The
number
you
heard
was
about
60
of
the
sales
transactions
that
come
through
our
office.
We
make
some
change
to
could
be
a
fireplace
a
bedroom
could
be
a
thousand
square
feet
could
be
a
basement,
so
60
percent
of
those
have
some
change
to
them.
Now
the
question
that
most
people
have
is
that
we'll?
How
did
we
not
know
that?
V
V
Y
V
Right
if
you're
talking
about
a
rental,
then
that's
a
session
an
accessory
building,
yes,
I
mean
that's
a
substantial
value.
That's
escaped
taxation.
If
you're
talking
about
a
storage
building
that
could
be
different.
So
again,
it's
a
matter
of
what
you're
you're
really
defining
as
an
auxiliary
building.
It's.
V
We
get
an
electronic
copy
of
all
departments,
okay
from
the
city
and
the
county,
but
that's
only
happened
in
the
past
few
years
we
used
to
get
only
paper
permits
on
the
county
and
the
city,
so
I,
probably
don't
have
to
say
much
more
about
that
paper
gets
lost
and
you
know,
but
for
a
building
or
an
improvement
that
needs
a
permit.
Then.
Yes,
we
should
have
that
information,
and
we
should
know
about
that.
Okay,.
V
So
partnering,
with
partnering,
with
the
Realtors
to
communicate
the
process
for
updating
property
characteristics
to
the
MLS.
We
recently
had
a
lunch
and
learned
with
the
Realtors
they're,
very
interested
and
also
partnering
with
us
on
this.
It
is
for
their
benefit
also
when
they
list
the
property
to
make
sure
the
property
owner
knows
that
they
should
be
checking
their
characteristics
on
their
on
their
homes
or
the
buildings
to
make
sure
that
they
are
are
listed
properly.
V
Community
mailer,
we
plan
to
send
in
December
requesting
residents
to
update
and
validate
property
characteristics.
This
is
a
this
will
be
like
a
listing
form
and
for
any
of
you,
that's
been
around
for
a
while.
In
the
tax
business
we
used
to
list
real
property
used
to
get
a
listing
form.
Just
like
you
do
for
your
personal
property.
V
It
was
mailed
to
you
every
year
and
you
were
asked
to
list
your
your
real
estate.
Just
like
you
would,
if
you
have
a
business
that
hasn't
been
done
in
years
when
the
state
went
to
our
permanent
listing
system,
most
counties
stopped
that,
and
also
due
to
the
probably
the
cost
incurred
from
having
to
do
that.
We
do
anticipate
that
we
we
will
do
that
again
for
the
next
two
years.
We
will
send
a
letter
and
some
form
of
a
listing
Forum
to
all
the
property
owners
and
ask
them
to
update
their
property
characteristics.
V
I
will
send
you
a
form
that
gives
you
the
information
that
we
currently
have
ask
you
to
review
it.
If
there's
any
changes,
please
notify
us
of
us
of
those
changes
and
we
will
have
it
taken
care
of
for
you.
So
that
will
be
an
effort
that
we
will
work
for
the
next
two
years
to
collect
more
data
to
make
the
data
better
moving
into
the
next
reappraisal
cost.
B
Just
just
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
kind
of
responses
we
get
right,
because
we
can't
compel
everyone
to
respond,
but
hopefully
a
lot
of
folks
will
from
you
know,
just
from
a
legal
standpoint,
people
we
can't
require
people
to
fill
this
out
and
send
it
back
right.
We're
asking
people
to
do
it,
but
right,
that's
not
something
we
can.
We
can
sort
of
mandate,
but
it
is,
but
but
the
state
statutes
do
speak
to
people
are
supposed
to
report
these
improvements
right,
so
people
do
do
have
improvements
made.
B
You
know
they
really
should
you
know,
update
us,
especially
if
we're
kind
of
taking
this
step
to
make
it
really.
You
know
kind
of
specifically
to
ask
for
that.
So
if
you
have
an
improvements
in
particular,
you
ought
to
folks
that
are
make
sure
they're
accurately
sharing
that
information
about
their
problem
right
right.
V
And
also
say
for
our
residents
is
that
they
can
assist
in
this
overall
and
helping
improve
equity
in
the
assessments.
By
reporting
these
improvements,
everyone
should
be
paying
their
fair
share,
no
more,
no
less,
but
if
you
know
that
you've
done
something
you
haven't
reported,
then
the
fair
thing
to
do
for
all
the
residents
is
to
report
that
to
us
and
allow
us
to
assess
it
will.
V
It
is
currently
our
plan
to
send
you
the
information
we
currently
have.
Okay,
we
hope
to
be
able
to
send
you
a
footprint
sketch
of
the
your,
your
pro
your
house
and
all
the
characteristics
that
are
associated
with
it.
So
you
can
see
what
we
have
listed,
that
we've
notified
you,
that
we
only
have
two
bathrooms
and
now
you
know
we
have
three
and
that
you
would
have
the
ability
to.
We
will
also
make
that
as
easy
as
possible.
V
U
B
U
V
So
we
will
take
a
different
approach
now
to
see
if
we
can
improve
that
response
to
get
people
to
do
that,
but
for
those
for
those
residents
who
want
to
check
please
go
to
the
website.
Look
at
your
property
there's!
If
you
go
there,
there
is
true,
there's
a
button
that
you
can
press
and
say,
report
improvements
and
you
fill
it
out
and
it'll
it'll
send
it
straight
to
us
and
that's
all
you
have
to
do
so.
Thank
you
for
reminding.
B
Us
it's
probably
less
common,
but
if
someone
you
know
for
a
clerical
error
or
whatever,
if
there's
improvements
that
we
believe
are
there,
that
in
fact
are
not
there.
They
can
also.
This
would
be
an
opportunity
to
call
back
to
their
attention,
so
they
can
report
like
actually
I,
don't
have
that
other
half
bath
or
whatever,
and
so
they
could,
they
could
get
it
adjusted
in
their
solution.
V
It
does
go
both
ways:
yes,
yes,
okay,
so
we'll
plan
for
that
Miller
to
go
out
to
the
residence
in
December,
the
regular
listing
period
for
all
real
estate
and
personal
property
as
January
1
through
January
31.
So
that
is
the
time
all
Property
Owners
should
list
you
improvements
or
personal
property.
This
isn't.
This
is
an
estimated
cost
of
about
50
000
annually,
currently
budgeted
for
the
first
year
in
FY
23,
and
then
we'll
move
forward
to
FY
24..
V
There
will
be
some
consideration
here
of
if
a
full-time
employee
would
be
needed
to
be
on
a
handle
and
process
such
a
a
program
in
place
and
we'll
consider
that
as
we
move
forward,
develop
key
metrics
to
trigger
increase
in
staff
currently
in
place.
We
currently
with
strategy
and
Innovation
have
those
metrics
in
place,
and
we
we
did
present
those
even
last
year
to
the
county
manager
in
our
budget
presentation.
So
we
will
continue
to
use
that
same
format
and
moving
forward.
V
The
current
metrics
help
us
to
right
size,
our
office
to
better
understand
how
many
transactions
that
are
coming
through
and
having
your
assigned
to
every
employee.
So
it's
quite
a
great
it's
a
good
analysis
that
strategy
innovation
has
helped
us
with
I
will
be
asking
in
the
fy24
budget
for
one
full-time
employee,
at
least
from
that
metrics
of
the
transactional
database
increase
the
frequency
of
property
reappraisals
to
a
two
to
three
year.
Frequency
currently
staff
does
not
recommend
changing
the
frequency.
B
V
B
V
1.2
million
dollars
would
be
an
additional
expense
and
that
pays
for
all
of
our
contracted
Services,
also,
which
is
which
are
our
flyovers,
our
pictometry
photography,
our
street
level,
photography.
All
the
tools
that
we
use
during
the
reappraisal
for
my
contractors
are
included
in
that
1.2
million
dollars.
V
This
this
board
asked
me
a
few
months
ago
to
consider
re
looking
at
the
methodology
of
value
in
short-term
rentals,
in
which
I
did
and
I
think
we've
been
through
it
and
talked
many
hours
about
it
with
many
different
people.
Currently
there
there
is
no
legal
pathway
for
me
to
do
that.
I
think
after
hours
of
conversation
with
our
own
internal
legal
team,
the
school
of
government
apartment
Revenue
other
taxing
offices
across
the
state.
We
all
understand
that
legally,
we
probably
should
not
approach
that
not
probably,
we
should
not
approach
that
under
the
current
statutes.
V
V
We
will
make
the
best
effort
to
identify
these
short-term,
rentals
and
other
rentals
to
do
a
complete
analysis.
Determine
the
influence
of
short-term
rentals
may
have
on
the
overall
valuation
of
the
county.
Locating
these
rentals,
Works,
short-term
or
long
term
is
not
an
easy
task
to
try
and
find
them.
V
There
is
no
reporting
in
place
that
they
have
to
tell
us
where
they're
at,
and
they
won't
be
now
due
to
current
lawsuits
in
place
or
that
are
happened,
but
there
is
data
that
we
can
purchase,
who
that
will
help
us
locate
these
and
other
rentals,
so
we
can
start
watching
the
how
they
affect
how
they're
affecting
us
in
the
marketplace
to
do
the
analysis
on
them.
Look
at
the
sales
transactions
that
are
happening
from
them.
B
B
That
is
a
question
on
that,
and
you
know
I
mean
this
is
you
know,
I
think
that's.
It
would
certainly
be
interesting
to
have
more
information
about
how
the
proliferation
of
vacation
rentals
is
affecting
the
real
estate
market,
both
for
people
who
are
purchasing
homes,
maybe
even
more
so
for
people
who
are
renting
homes,
as
so
many
of
these
houses
have
been
converted
from
long-term
rentals
to
short-term
rentals.
B
I
know,
with
all
of
these
issues
that
we're
bringing
up
here
like
we're,
putting
a
lot
of
questions
in
front
of
your
office
right,
so
so
I'm,
certainly
not
against
having
this
kind
of
information,
but
just
kind
of
thinking
about,
like
the
role
of
your
office
and
kind
of
policy
setting
and
the
the
work
that
you
have
to
do.
I'm
just
curious.
How,
like
the
analysis
around
how
short-term
rentals
are
affecting
overall
valuations
in
the
county
like
how
would
your
office
actually
use
that
information.
V
The
information
is
to
attract
the
sales
transactions
on
them.
Also,
when
you
buy
the
data,
you
also
get
the
income
information
the
occupancy
of
rentals,
so
you
can
do
a
better
assessment
on
the
income
approach
to
do
an
overall
comparison
to
what
the
sales
approach
versus
income
approach
might
look
like.
B
If
the,
if
the
legislature
doesn't
change
the
rules,
would
this
have
with
this
information,
which
again
I
would
love
to
have
I'm
not
against
it
and
I'm?
Just
also
aware
of
the
workload
that
your
whole
team's
got
in
front
of
you
will
it
be
like
actionable
information
assuming
the
laws
stay
consistent
as
they
are
today,
the.
V
Only
actual
that
we
can
do
with
it
at
this
time
is
the
business
personal
property
listing
which
I'll
get
to
next
is
that
any
rental
is
required
by
Statute
to
report
their
personal
property
Assets
in
that
rental.
So,
if
you're,
if
you
have
a
short-term
rental,
then
you
should
be
reporting
to
the
assessor
every
year
on
your
business
property
listing
your
beds,
your
furniture,
your
TVs,
your
silverware,
your
dishes,
all
the
things
that
you
provide
in
that
rental
is
considered
a
business
asset
and
should
be
reported
for
taxation.
V
V
V
K
Chairman
Newman
I
want
to
make
sure
I
checked
with
through
on
this.
If
you
do
purchase
that
in
tax,
we
cannot
share
that
with
zoning
or
any
other
places.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand
to
your
point
on
policy.
It
would
be
only
for
tax
purposes.
It
could
be
used
that
date
I
want
to
make
sure
if
that
is
correct,
but
as
you
were
thinking
about
that
question,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
it's
only
be
taxed.
We
couldn't
share
it
with
another
department.
Y
Y
I
guess
I
would
argue
that
it's
had
a
cataclysmic
impact
on
our
housing
market.
If
you
view
our
housing
crisis
as
one
of
scarcity
and
one
of
a
rental
based
crisis,
but
the
the
the
basic
nature
of
that
first
bullet
point
is
there
in
the
eyes
of
the
school
of
government
and
others?
Is
there
really
no
difference
between
a
whole
home,
short-term
rental
or
a
backyard
shed
home,
short-term
rental
or
a
one
bedroom
within
your
basement
like?
Is
there
no
diff?
No,
the
difference
between
the
types
there.
V
Can
be
a
different
change
like
downtown
Asheville,
we
have
a
condo
complex
in
which
the
third
and
fourth
floor
are
set
aside
as
short-term
rentals.
We
can
assess
those
as
such,
because
that's
what
they're
set
aside
and
that's
what
they've
built
for,
and
they
have
the
right
to
do
that
they
were
given
the
right
to
do
that.
So,
even
if,
within
the
used
to
within
the
city
for
homestays,
if
they
were
permitted
to
have
a
special
use,
then
we
could
assess
them
differently.
V
So
they
have
to
be
used
in
a
different
way
or
they
have
to
be
set
aside
in
a
different
way
that
they
do
have
this
use
versus
someone
else.
That
would
have
it.
So,
yes,
there
can
be
some
differentiated
some
that
may
be
set
aside
in
a
currently
in
a
commercial
Zone,
and
that
may
be
considered
even
as
cabins
that
we
assess
them
commercially
as
cabins.
They
are
rented
on
a
short-term
basis.
So
we
do
look
at
those
on
the
income
approach.
V
The
the
real
issue
is
going
into
residential
neighborhoods
and
trying
to
Value
those
differently
of
houses,
sitting
side
by
side
that
are
really
have
been
established
for
the
same
use
of
a
single-family
home
and
part
of
that
is
Mr.
Fruit
and
I
have
discussed,
and
he
I'll
have
him
talk
more
about
the
legal
side
of
it
if
you
want,
but
it
does
come
back
to
the
North
Carolina
Constitution
that
talks
about
Fair
taxation
and
how
you
can
not
treat
people
differently.
V
So
if
you
don't
have
something
that
sets
you
aside
to
be
different,
then
I
can't
assess
you
differently.
That's
what
it
comes
down
to.
So,
if
you're
in
a
homeowners
association
that
says
you
Mr
Sloan,
can
rent
your
house
on
a
short-term
rental
and
we're
giving
you
the
right
to
do
that.
Then
I
can
assess
you
for
that.
But
if
you're
just
like
everybody
else,
then
that's
when
it
creates
a
problem.
V
Develop
assessment
policies
to
optimize
tax
revenue,
Focus
Lobby
and
efforts
to
increase
revenue
streams,
consider
lobbying
legislator
on
valuation
exclusion,
homestead
exemption
for
full-time
County
residents.
This
is
something
that
goes
on
all
across
the
United
States.
There
are
many
jurisdictions
that
do
this
you've
heard
of
States,
you
know,
South
Carolina
is
one
of
them.
Florida
is
one
of
them.
V
If
you
are
a
full-time
resident,
there's
other
methods,
South
Carolina
has
a
different
model,
but
the
consideration
here
for
you
and
our
legislators
is
that
do
does
North
Carolina
need
something
like
this
to
protect
our
full-time
residents
in
these
communities
versus
those
people
who,
as
you
have
mentioned,
may
be
buying
of
some
of
our
housing
stock
for
rentals
and
do
not
live
here.
So
it
would
be
a
benefit
to
those
Property
Owners.
V
We
have
done
some
analysis
on
it
and
looking
at
a
fixed
rate
of
a
discount
rather
than
a
purchase,
does
give
a
larger
relief
to
those
moderate
to
low
value
homes
than
it
does
our
higher
value
homes.
So
there's
some
of
these
plans
that
really
can
help
those
folks
in
our
communities
who
need
the
help.
So
that's
just
for
your
consideration.
That
is
not
something
locally
that
we
can
do.
That
would
have
to
be
a
state
change
from
our
legislators.
V
Enhancing
the
permit
compliance
partner
with
our
local
Board
of
real
estate
professionals,
Builders
Association,
to
ensure
accuracy
on
the
property
attributes.
We
spoke
a
little
bit
about
that.
This
is
an
overlap,
a
little
bit
of
our
multiple
listing
service
efforts
and
our
partnership
with
our
realtors
association,
but
talking
with
Realtors
and
continuing
to
talk
with
Realtors
and
meeting
with
them,
we
will
make
them
more
and
more
aware
of
why
we
should
be
reporting
these
improvements.
Why
should
they
be
having
these
conversations
with
their
buyers
and
sellers
about
reporting
these
improvements?
V
We
can
continue
in
to
conduct
the
informational
sessions
with
Realtors
to
provide
education
on
the
process.
We
recently
did
a
lunch
and
learn
with
Atlanta
Sky
Association
of
Realtors
and
went
through
this
and
helped
them
better
understand
what
that
process
looks
like
enhance
internal
process
for
communication
between
the
County
assessment
and
Permit
Department.
This
has
been
implemented
and
we
work
hand
in
hand
with
our
County
permit
department.
V
As
when
we
find
unpremitted
improvements,
we
do
report
them
to
our
permanent
office
and
they
follow
up
with
the
property
owners
to
make
sure
that
they
are
in
compliance
with
their
life.
Safety
situations
to
make
sure
something
has
not
been
created
that
would
be
a
detriment
to
our
residents,
develop
a
One-Stop
website
Hub
that
will
provide
access
to
property
records,
Maps
appeals,
taxes
and
dashboards,
we're
working
with
our
it
and
Cape
to
comprehensively
overhaul
our
assessment
website.
V
Enhanced
accessibility
and
the
user
experience
provide
an
easy
to
navigate
site
for
the
things
in
the
assessment
and
enhance
the
transparency
of
the
key
metrics
and
assessment
data.
One
thing
that
we
did
hear
some
from
some
of
the
public
comment
from
the
committee
is:
we
did
hear
some
residents
that
come
forth
was
talking
about
our
website
that
they
were
not
able
to
find
easily
information
related
to
their
property.
Z
Good
evening
my
name
is
Josh
maduri
I
work
with
the
cave
team
and
Dakota
Tyler
will
also
be
joining
us
today.
So
when
Keith
brought
this
to
us,
we
were
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
residents
needs.
Obviously
the
most
majority
of
what
we're
looking
at
right
here
is
the
behavior.
That's
currently
what
people
are
looking
for
when
they
go
to
the
website,
it's
overwhelmingly
to
pay
taxes,
but
as
this
is
going
to
proceed
through
the
assessment,
Year
we're
obviously
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
looking
for
the
values
as
well.
Z
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
didn't
have
to
make
people
change.
Behaviors
they're
already
doing
this,
so
we
were
doing
the
the
mock-ups
that
you're
about
to
see
are
basically
trying
to
stay
in
line
with
their
current
behavior.
So
we
were
wanting
to
make
sure
that
they
made
the
the
accessibility
of
the
things
that
they're
already
looking
for
front
and
center,
as
well
as
the
values
to
be
easily
accessible.
Currently,
the
site
is
for
tax
purposes
kind
of
archaic.
Z
Z
Take
the
tools
that
I
think
Keith
will
be
talking
about
with
the
assessment,
a
third
party
vendor
that
will
make
neighborhood
values
much
more
accessible
so
that
you
understand
how
we're
getting
to
that
price
evaluation
and
things
of
that
nature,
as
well
as
highlighting
some
of
the
other
services
that
are
wonderful,
like
discover,
Buncombe.
That
gives
us
information
the
residence
information
on
things
like
schools,
parks
and
other
services
that
we
provide
with
the
county
the
universal
search
function.
Z
That
would
also
be
present
on
the
tax
department's
website
so
everywhere
that
they're
accessing
this
information
or
get
to
our
website
or
even
a
portion
of
our
website
like
the
tax,
tax.bunkum.com
or
dot
org,
they
would
be
able
to
search
easily,
and
this
would
be
much
more
refined
than
it
currently
is.
Currently
you
have
to
search
by
a
particular
criteria,
meaning
your
PIN
number
or
a
bill
number
and
there's
no
other
way.
That's
fairly
intuitive
anyways.
Z
Z
We
also
realized
that
a
lot
of
this
that
are
these
mock-ups
and
the
things
that
we've
been
discussing
are
based
on
feedback
that
we're
getting
from
Keys
department
and
Jennifer's
department
on
what
things
are
the
biggest
roadblocks,
but
we
also
Keith
and
and
we'll
introduce
Angelica
Tyler
she's
part
of
our
new
position
for
oh
I'll.
Let
her
explain
it,
but.
AA
Good
evening,
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
the
public
input
site,
engage
buncombecounty.org
and
how
we
plan
to
close
that
public
input
feedback
loop
from
the
ad
hoc
reappraisal
that
was
very
visible
on,
engage
Buncombe
and
got
a
lot
of
public
comment.
We've
are
kind
of
going
back
to
the
public
with
the
information
they
shared
and
the
feedback
they
shared
with
us
and
showing
those
mock-ups
making
those
available
in
a
really
short
survey.
You
see
here
and
especially
bringing
those
to
our
Legacy
neighborhood
communities,
I'm
representing
Rashida
McDaniels
from
the
public
engagement
side
tonight.
AA
She
couldn't
be
here
with
us,
but
she
has
an
event
tomorrow
evening
with
the
Legacy
neighborhoods
Coalition,
where
she
will
share
the
survey
and
share
the
current
navigation
of
the
assessment
website
with
those
groups.
She's
already
sent
out
that
information
to
them
to
preview
this
evening
and
again
get
that
feedback
feedback
boots
on
the
ground
from
our
community
members.
Let
them
see
the
mock-ups
and
add
anything
that
they
would
like
to
see,
questions
or
concerns
they
have
and
just
general
feedback
on
that
navigation.
Z
Later
and
the
IT
department,
with
the
custom
development,
is
already
working
on
implementing
a
lot
of
these
changes.
The
universal
research
is
already
in
progress,
so
we
recognize
the
need
to
make
these.
This
is
long
time
coming.
So
a
lot
of
this
is
already
in
process
and
we'll
continue
to
to
refine
it.
That's
great.
V
So
the
next
one
was
the
implementation
of
the
AI
software
to
enhance
the
accuracy
of
the
assessment
property
values.
We
discussed
this
with
you
sometime
back,
we
have
contracted
with
the
company
SAS
and
analytics
to
provide
a
artificial
intelligence
software
solution
that
we
are
currently
in
the
process
of
implementing.
Now.
What
does
this
do?
V
If
we're,
we
also
use
it
as
an
audit
tool
as
much
as
evaluation
tool
to
make
sure
the
things
that
we
are
doing.
We
are
not
missing
if
the
computer
can
help
us
see
these
areas
that
we
need
to
improve
upon,
so
that
that
is
currently
in
in
the
implementation
process
re-evaluate
Market
areas,
what
we
call
neighborhoods,
hey
Keith,
just
a
question
so.
B
B
In
terms
of
how
the
tool
would
work
for
Buncombe
County,
is
it
the
the
intent?
Is
that
it
really
wouldn't
change
a
lot,
at
least
like
say
in
the
near
term,
maybe
in
five
or
ten
years,
we've
learned
from
stuff
and
who
knows,
but
in
the
in
the
near
term,
won't
really
change
a
lot
about
how
like
your
office
and
your
staff
can
go
about
doing
their
work.
This
is
just
sort
of
another
layer
of
information
that
gets
run
that
you,
then
you
kind
of
compare
it
to
two
to
say
like
all
right.
B
V
And
I
have
even
mentioned
this
to
the
staff
when
you,
when
you
mention
artificial
intelligence,
people
automatically
think
oh
I'm
going
to
probably
move
on
somewhere
else,
because
you
know
the
computers
are
going
to
do
my
job,
that's
not
it!
This
is
another
tool
for
us
to
use
in
conjunction
with
what
we
currently
do.
This
is
another
way
to
improve
upon
what
we
do
moving
forward
into
the
next
reappraisal.
So
you
are
correct.
It's
it's
another
way
of
us.
V
Looking
at
Value,
it's
another
way
of
us
doing
auditing,
it's
another
valuation
that
will
be
pushed
into
our
system
that
we
can
look
at
and
say.
Well,
you
know
why.
Why
is
the
value
different
between
that
value
and
our
value?
And
then
the
appraisals
will
have
to
go
and
analyze
that
to
figure
it
out.
So
thank
you.
V
V
So
those
will
be
redefined
all
across
the
county
to
make
sure
that
we
are
creating
neighborhood
boundaries
that
are
truly
comparable
for
whatever
reason
that
the
analysis
may
show
us,
so
it
does
take
time
but
I've
committed
to
a
county
manager
that
this
will
happen.
She's
asked
me
to
make
sure
this
happens,
so
I
have
committed
to
adroll,
as
this
will
happen.
V
So
that's
the
next
thing
that
we'll
do
in
a
benefit
for
Equity
to
make
sure
that
our
neighborhoods
are
boundaries
are
driven
or
driven
the
way
they
should
be
from
Market
data
only
moving
forward.
This
could
result
in
a
data
analyst
requesting
the
data
analyst
position
to
help
with
this
data
analyst
analysis,
so
that's
that
could
be
an
fy24
request
and
a
possibly
the
additional
salary
of
about
a
hundred
thousand.
V
This
is
the
piece
that
Kate
mentioned.
This
will
be
embedded
in
our
website.
This
is
a
current
vendor
that
was
offering
this
product
called
Community.
We
also
heard
from
the
residents
during
the
committee
meetings
is
that
they
wanted
to
better
understand
what
was
going
on
in
their
neighborhoods,
not
across
the
county,
necessarily
in
their
neighborhoods.
This
tool
will
give
every
resident
ability
to
focus
on
whatever
area
of
that
map
they
want
to.
So
again,
if
you
live
in
a
defined
subdivision,
you
can
zoom
in
on
your
subdivision
and
all
the
metrics.
V
V
V
If
you
want
to
implement
some
kind
of
Lobby
and
effort
for
a
change
there,
the
appeals
Clinic
with
the
land
of
Sky
Association
of
Realtors.
We
will
use
existing
the
staff
to
support
those
realtors
in
that
effort
for
FY
23
and
24.
Community
ambassador
to
provide
education
on
the
re,
the
appraisal
process.
Again,
we
will
use
existing
staff
at
this
time
for
23
and
24.
V
real
estate
list
in
mellor
and
MLS
process.
That's
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
expense
and
the
existing
resources
moving
forward
to
24
a
50,
000
expense
and
an
expansion
possibly
of
a
one
full-time
employee,
develop
key
metrics
to
trigger
the
increase
in
staff.
We're
currently
doing
that,
we
will
currently
have
an
FY
24
request
to
budget
for
a
full-time
employee
based
on
those
metrics
increased
frequency
of
the
property
reappraisals
again
at
this
time.
We
are
not
not
recommending
that
we
move
forward
with
the
increase
of
frequencies.
V
We
were
just
talking
about
it's
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
expense
for
and
the
existing
staff
resources
to
support,
and
then
forty
thousand
dollars
in
FY
24,
moving
forward
implementation
of
the
artificial
intelligence,
software
120
000
for
FY
23
and
was
budgeted
for
FY
23
and
then
120
000
for
FY
24.,
re-evaluate
Market
areas.
No
change
for
f123
fought
24
possible
requests
for
one
full-time
employee.
At
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
salary,
so
I
can
take
any
other
questions
and
I'll
give
Burnett
Burnett
like
to
have
an
opportunity
to
say
something
about
the
process.
V
I
say
again:
strategy
and
innovation
has
been
a
huge
support
to
this
process.
They
have
been
a
partner
from
the
very
beginning
and
truly
has
helped
us
get
to
where
we're
at
and
Burnett
you're
welcome
to
say
something.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I'm
happy
to
help
in
any
way
that
I
can
cover
all
the
bases.
Okay,
any
other
questions.
W
B
Good
Daniels,
okay,
so
yeah
appreciate
appreciate
the
presentation,
thanks
for
thanks
for
all
the
updates
from
everybody.
So
there's
a
lot.
You
know
there's
a
lot
in
here.
There's
a
lot
of
recommendations
here
appreciate
you
know,
Everybody
digging
into
this
and
and
following
up
on
it.
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions
and
and
and
comments.
So
one
of
them,
you
know
and
I
guess
I,
just
kind
of
want
to
start
off
with
like
sort
of
the
like
the
really
highest
level.
B
Question
I
think
that's
sort
of
hovered
over
this
whole
set
of
issues.
Since
we
first
started
you
just
kind
of
kind
of
came
onto
our
radar
and
you
know,
which
is
the
the
question
around
you
know,
is
there?
Is
there
some
tendency
to
over
assess
modest
homes
and
under
assess
high-end
homes?
When
the
revaluation
process
happens,.
Z
B
There's
a
whole
bunch
of
questions
here,
but
that's
really
the
kind
of
the
biggest
kind
of
most
fundamental
question
and
all
this
stuff
is,
you
know
very
technical
and
complicated,
but
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
come
back,
Keith
and
kind
of
talk
about
that
question.
A
little
bit
I
mean
you
mentioned.
You
referenced
it
earlier
in
your
presentation
and
how?
When
thinking
about
that
that
fundamental
question
you
know,
there's
not
necessarily
like
any
one
thing
when
we
think
about
the
next
reval
process
that
we
will
go
through.
B
There's
not
just
any
one
thing
that
you
do
that
to
assure
we're
getting
we're
getting
this
Mass
appraisal
process
to
be
as
accurate
as
as
accurate
as
possible
across
the
board.
As
we
can
it's
a
it's
a
bunch
of
different
things
that
that
need
to
be
done
to
go
into
that,
but
but
I
guess
just
that.
You
know
you
know,
and
so
Lamar
I'd
like
to
look
at
a
couple
of
those
slides
that
you
showed
so
so
Keith
you
showed,
and
we
talked
about
these
slides.
B
So
you
showed
a
couple
of
slides
at
the
last
meeting
of
the
ad
hoc
committee,
so
I
just
wanted
to
spend
a
minute
looking
at
these,
because
I
think
before
we
dig
into
all
the
different
kind
of
steps
we
can
take
and
things
that
we
can
do
you
know
I
do
want
to
kind
of
have
as
good
of
an
understanding
as
possible
about
like.
Do.
We
think
that
they're
in
the
past
there
has
been
some
tendency
around
overvaluation
and
undervaluation
happening
in
the
appraisal
process.
B
I
think
the
you
know,
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
the
ad
hoc
committee
did
and
all
these
recommendations
they
brought
forward
I
think
they
give
us
a
lot
of
things
to
work
on,
but
I
don't
feel
like
that
question
was
ever
really
directly
answered.
You
know
from
from
the
committee,
so
I
think
it's
still
a
question.
The
community
is
sort
of
asking
itself
like
that's,
been
asserted,
but
is
it
you
know?
Is
it
correct
or
is
it?
B
B
It'll
come
up
in
just
a
minute,
you're
you're,
familiar
with
which
one
it
was
so
so,
and
then
this
is
the
other
slide
that
was
shown
afterwards.
So
it's
these
two
different
ways
of
looking
at
the
valuations
across
the
housing
Spectrum
in
the
county,
so
I,
I,
guess
Keith
I
just
wanted
to
ask
you
to
just
share
kind
of
share
your
perspective
on
what
the
what
is
the
meaning
of
the
two
slides
and
what
it
means
for
the
kind
of
this
high
level.
B
Question
of
what
do
we
learn
from
this
when
we
think
about
like?
Might
there
be
some
over
appraisal
overvaluation
on
the
lower
end
and
undervaluation
on
the
higher
end
of
the
housing
market
that
we
can
learn
from?
So
as
we
think
about
going
into
the
future
processes?
We
understand
that
and
are
thinking
about,
like
what
are
all
the
different
things
we
can
do
to
to
to
get
the
most
accurate
results.
We
can
yeah.
V
V
What
does
the
data
look
like
as
we
move
into
the
reappraisal,
and
what
that
means
is
that
we
look
at
the
sales
ratio
before
we
made
any
changes
to
the
parcel
okay,
if
there
was
changes
to
be
made
to
it
from
maybe
unpermitted
data,
we
look
at
it
before
versus
the
value,
and
then
we
look
at
it
after.
After
tells
me
what
the
level
of
assessment
would
be
compared
to
the
schedule
values
now
what
that
means
is
that
how
is
the
appraisal
methodology
performing?
If
you
have
correct
data.
B
So
Lamar,
could
you
put
back
up
the
put
back
up
the
the
reapplazer,
the
first
one,
the
reappraisal
year,
ratio
study
so
and
I
know
this
gets
in
the
weeds
super
quick,
but
it's
important
and
it's
relevant
to
all
these
questions,
so
so
so
so
so
talk
about
this
first
slide.
How
does
this
look
at
the
data?
What's
included
in
the
data
that
drives
this
graph
and
then
and
then
the
second
one
yeah.
V
So
this
graph
is
going
to
look
at.
How
is
the
appraisal
methodology
performing
and
does
it
work?
That's
the
simple
question
here:
is
the
ethics
methodology
works?
If
you
have
a
thousand
square
foot
house
and
I
know,
you
have
a
thousand
square
foot
house,
then
I.
Compare
that
to
the
methodology-
and
this
is
the
results
you
get-
is
that
the
data
from
the
upper
end
of
the
lower
end
is
very
close.
Okay
then,
if
you
look
at
it,
we
can
go
to
the
other.
B
B
This
model
incorporates
the
assumptions
learned
from
that
into
the
overall
that
model
right.
That
is
correct.
So
once
you
embed
those
assumptions
into
the
model,
the
model
looks
like
it's.
Working
real
model
works.
The
model
works
really
good,
but
the
challenge
is
that,
as
you
mentioned,
like
the
MLS
information,
only
about
one
percent
of
the
housing
market
goes
on
the
market
for
sale
each
year,
so
so
the
so
the
percentage
of
homes
where
we
have
that
fully
updated
information
is
only
about
one
percent
of
the
market.
V
Yes,
if
we
go
back
to
the
other,
for
if
we
could
go
back
if
we
made
no
changes
in
the
data
when
we,
when
the
data
comes
through
from
a
multiple
listing
service
or
when
we
qualify
sales,
this
is
a
graph
like
you
would
see,
and
this
is
what
creates
inequity.
That's
when
you,
when
you
have
bad
data
and
you're
trying
to
assess
bad
data,
then
it
creates
bad
data.
V
Okay,
this
is
where
inequities
are
born
and,
as
you
see
from
the
earlier
graph,
is
that
if
I
had
every
house
in
this
County
listed
correctly,
that's
the
graph,
you
would
see
it'd
be
almost
flat.
Okay,
but
looking
at
this
before
the
data
is
corrected,
then
you
start
seeing
the
inequities
that
get
created,
and
that
comes
back
to
my
earlier
comment
that.
V
V
This
one
is
looking
at
the
sales
ratios.
If
we
didn't
and
do
anything
so
again,
I'll
say
what
I
said
earlier
to
to
take
away.
These
inequities
that
you
see
in
this
graph
would
be
to
get
every
homeowner
in
the
county
to
respond
to
us
and
let's
make
sure
we
have
the
best
data
available
and
then
the
values
become
more
equitable.
B
So
so
right,
so
if
we
had,
you
know,
if
we,
if
we
lived
in
the
world
of
perfect
information
right,
then
we've
got
some
pretty
good
evidence
here
that
the
model
works.
The
model
in
the
system
works
very
well
yeah.
The
challenge,
of
course-
and
it's
nobody's
you
know-
and
it's
nobody's
fault
really-
is
that
we
we
don't
live
in
a
world
of
perfect
data
right.
It's
particularly
not
your
office's
fault.
B
You
know
we're
going
to
make
these
additional
efforts
to
get
people
to
share
information,
but
we
we
have
the
information
that
we
have.
Your
staff
can't
go
into
people's
homes,
they're,
basically
just
looking
at
the
outside
of
people's
properties
and
looking
at
Market
transaction
data
right.
So
we
don't
have
perfect
information
about
everything,
that's
happening,
but
with
that
said,
you
know
that
is
the
the
basis
for
doing
our
Mass.
You
know
revaluation
process
and
this
chart
does
seem
to
indicate
and
I
realize
the
types
really
small
here.
B
So
maybe
not
everyone
can
see
it,
but
like
the
values
on
the
left
side
of
the
bottom
of
the
chart,
those
are
for
homes,
valued
at
250,
000
and
Below,
where
it
kind
of
like
the
kind
of
like
the
graph
pops
up,
and
then
it's
like
over
you
know,
over
650
is
where
there's
kind
of
a
decline
on
the
right
side
of
the
homes.
Those
are
homes
valued
at
over
650,
000
dollars
or
they're
about
so
so.
B
This
data
does
seem
to
indicate
that,
with
the
information
that
we
have
and
the
process
we
go
through
there
for
the
homes
less
than
250
000
there
is
the
market
transaction
data
is
indicating
that
there
is
a
there
is
an
overvaluation
of
them
compared
to
their
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
housing
portfolio
right
and
and
then
on.
The
on
the
high
end
of
the
spectrum.
B
I
mean
it's
a
long,
slow
decline,
but
there
does
seem
to
be
this
decline,
indicating
that
the
higher
valued
real
estate
in
the
market
is
somewhat
undervalued
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
housing
portfolio
too.
So
I
guess
that's.
You
know.
That
seems
to
be
what
it
says,
but
I
don't
know.
What
are
your?
What
comments
would
you
have
on
that
and.
V
V
However,
I
remind
you
that
this
is
mass
appraisal.
Three
percent
is
success
for
us.
Okay,
I.
Don't
think
that
I
will
ever
stand
before
you
and
say
it's
zero.
Okay,
we're
gonna
have
some
fluctuations
between
the
top
and
the
bottom
and
the
middle.
This
is
what's
going
to
happen,
but
what
we
can
do
is
all
the
efforts
to
put
forth
to
make
it
the
best
that
we
can
make
it
and
eliminate
as
much
as
the
inequity.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
as
we
can
through
these
new
processes,.
V
Actually
manufactured
housing
typically
is
undervalued,
okay
and
typically
more
today
than
maybe
it
ever
has
been
manufactured.
Housing
is
a
very
difficult
task
for
us,
because
you
have
so
many
variations
in
quality
and
Condition,
it's
very
hard
to
identify
them
in
the
mass
appraisal
process.
So
it
is
a
little
bit
more
of
a
struggle
for
us,
so
they
there
can
be
overvalued
and
but
there's
many
undervalued
too.
B
Yeah
all
right
well,
I
will
I
will
stop
talking
about
numbers
here
for
a
second
but
I.
Just
I
wanted
to
look
at
this,
because
I
think
that
I
do
think.
This
is
kind
of
the
big
picture
question
that
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
have
and
so
I
just
you
know
this.
Coming
back
to
us,
we've
had
a
chance
to
kind
of
hear
the
ad
hoc
committee's
report
think
about
the
data
that's
presented
so
I.
B
You
know
my
I
guess
my
Takeaway
on
it
is
that
there
there
does
seem
to
be
some
tendency
in
those
ways
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
good
work
being
done.
All
the
stuff
you've
described
will
be
very
helpful
in
preparation
for
the
next
revaluation
process
so
that,
when
we're
looking
at
this
again
after
the
next
revaluation
process,
we
don't
see
the
same
tendency
right.
We're
gonna,
we're
gonna
wanna,
see
we're
going
to
want
to
get
it
as
accurate
as
possible
and
certainly
do
everything
we
can
to
make
sure
we're.
B
B
B
Is
that
the
the
work
that
your
office
is
now
doing
to
review
the
MLS
listings
in
a
really
proactive
and
very
comprehensive
manner
to
look
for
you
know,
are:
are
there
substantial
improvements
that
have
been
made
that
people
haven't
been
paying
their
taxes
on
should
be
paying
it?
That
seems
that
seems
like
a
great
step,
the
one
other,
like
kind
of
one
other,
fairly
unique
process
whereby
you
know
when
you
know
people
choose
to
sell
their
property.
B
They
choose
to
put
on
MLS
the
other
place
that
people
can
kind
of
are
choosing
to
kind
of
show
what
their
properties
what
they
have
is
through,
like
when
people
list
their
properties
on
short-term
rental
platforms
right.
So
they
kind
of
voluntarily
choose
to
kind
of
show
like
here's.
What
I
have
hey
everybody?
Look,
how
look
how
great
this
is.
So
my
question
is:
even
if
you
don't
pursue
kind
of
thinking
about
those
properties
being
taxed
in
a
different
way
than
other
single-family
homes.
V
I
do
agree
with
you,
I
think
it
is
because
you
have
now
an
Avenue
of
another
window
open
another
door
opened
that
we
can
see
what
the
improvements
are
and
that's
really
the
only
way
that
we
have
to
find
them.
So
there
is
you're
right,
there's
other
reasons
of
having
the
data
that
could
be
beneficial
to
us.
V
However,
I
will
say
to
you
is
that
that
is
very
time,
and
since
that
is
very
time
intensive,
because
if
we
buy
one
extract
of
this
data
and
you
get
20
000
Parcels,
then
somebody's
got
to
look
up
each
individual
one
of
those,
because
we
have
no
way
of
getting
the
data
from
these
companies
and
just
doing
a
direct
comparison.
It's
a
manual
process,
so
it's
very
it
would
be
very
intensive,
but
is
it
a
way
another
Avenue
to
correct
the
data?
Yes,
I
will
agree
with
that.
B
Well,
you
know
I'll
just
Express
support
for
looking
at
that
I
mean
again,
I
mean
I.
Think
we've
got
this
information
showing
like.
If
we
have
perfect
information,
the
model
actually
like
seems
to
perform
pretty
well.
So
this
does
seem
like
an
opportunity
to
continue
kind
of
collecting
real
world
data
on
real
improvements
to
properties.
B
You
know
no
one
needs
to
pay
more
than
their
fair
share,
but
people
do
need
to
pay
their
fair
share.
Based
on
the
you
know,
the
properties
that
they
they
own,
I
guess.
The
other
question
I
wanted
to
just
spend
a
minute
on
is
around
the
appeals
process.
So
it
sounds
like
the
the
there's
all
these
plans
to
kind
of
do:
Outreach
and
engagement
in
advance
of
the
rebound
process
to
get
people
raise
awareness,
get
people,
awareness
and
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
the
appeal
process
itself.
B
B
You
know
more
robust
participation
in
the
appeals
process
right
and
that's
something
like,
as
we've
said,
all
along
like
we
welcome
that,
like
we
want
people,
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
think
you
have
some
information
that
indicates
there
might
be,
you
know,
we
didn't
get
it
just
right.
Come
forward
share
the
information.
That's
a
process,
it's
not
a
hostile
process.
It's
a
process.
We
welcome
so
I.
Just
you
know.
B
V
I
think
we've
been
we've
improved
more
and
more
over
the
years
than
we
improve
every
year,
but
is
there
barriers
I,
don't
think,
there's
barriers
other
than
knowledge,
I!
Think
of
many
of
our
property
owners.
Don't
have
the
knowledge
or
don't
want
to
enter
the
process
because
it
could
be
a
little
intimidating
to
them.
They
don't
know
what
to
do.
They
don't
know
how
to
do
it.
V
One
reason
for
asking
the
Realtors
to
volunteer
is
that
we
have
now
sort
of
a
third
party
that
residents
can
go
and
talk
to
they're,
not
talking
to
me.
They
shouldn't
have
to
feel
intimidated
because
I'm
the
tax
guy
give
them
someone
else
to
talk
to
that.
Maybe
they
can
feel
a
little
more
comfortable
with.
B
And-
and
you
know
and
I
appreciate
the
Realtors
being
willing
to
help
on
this-
that's
great
and
with
the
discovery
process,
kind
of
helping
to
educate
home
buyers
and
home
sellers
around
why
everyone
needs
to
get
the
correct
information
out
there?
What
have
they?
But
you
know,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
there
might
be
a
lot
of
folks
coming
forward.
Saying
yeah
I've
got
questions
I'm
interested
in
appeal,
I
mean.
V
V
We,
we
still
have
to
look
for
more
innovative
ideas
and
I
hope
as
we
bring
on
a
marketing
and
engagement
contractor
that
they
can
present
us
with
some
more
new
innovative
ideas
on
how
to
reach
these
folks.
But
I
truly
have
said
all
along
is
that
people
need
to
appeal,
and
people
have
come
to
me
before
make
comments
to
me
and
I've
said:
why
didn't
you
appeal
and
they're
well,
I
didn't
know,
I
could
I
didn't
know
how
to
do
it
or
I
didn't
know
where
to
start.
W
Just
on
that
for
a
second
I,
just
wonder
if,
as
we
think
about
this
sort
of
through
a
information
and
Service
delivery
approach,
if
if
we
could
pair
that,
there's
appeals
clinics
with
information
about
like
screening
for,
are
you
eligible
for
any
of
the
programs
that
exist
to
help?
You
know
whether,
because
of
your
age
or
you,
income
eligible
for
the
grant
program
so
that
there's
actually
an
integration
to
it.
So
someone
comes
in
and
it's
like.
Okay,
are
you
eligible
for
an
appeal
yep?
W
Let's
pursue
that
and
what
you
know
are
you
eligible
for
any
of
these
other
things
and
then
we're
kind
of
providing
that
support
throughout
I
know
that
I
hear
I,
hear
what
you're
saying
and,
at
the
same
time,
like
I,
have
had
conversations
with
constituents
and
neighbors
for
whom
it's
it's.
There
are
many
barriers
in
the
way
of
you
know
and
I.
W
Think
we
just
to
really
really
dig
in
here
have
to
kind
of
be
as
intentional
about
this,
as
we
have
been
about
like
vaccine
efforts,
you
know
that,
like
we
just
kind
of
had
to
keep
learning
about
okay,
what
what
model
will
create?
The
bridges
for
folks
so
I
I,
guess,
as
you
know,
as
we
later
head
into
the
planning
stage
on
this,
would
welcome
County
staff's
perspective
on
ways
to
get
all
that
in
front
of
people.
In
one
experience.
V
And
let
me
mention
to
you
is
that
that
is
going
to
be
included
is
that
I
I
will
have
training
sessions
with
the
groups
of
Realtors.
I
will
help
them
understand
how
to
not
only
appeal
for
a
resident,
but
also
be
able
to
talk
to
that
Resident
about
exemptions
that
might
be
available
to
them
and
right
there
when
they're
talking
to
that
Resident,
they
can
follow
the
application
for
them.
They
can
help
them
through
the
process,
so
it
is
going
to
be
combined.
It's
going
to
be
a
combined
effort
to
do
it
all.
K
U
I'll
just
say:
well,
thank
you
to
staff
and
the
ad
hoc
committee,
because
I
know
this
has
been
a
tremendous
amount
of
work
and
I.
Think
it's
Chris,
McLaughlin
I
believe
is
the
one
with
the
school
of
government
that
was
addressing
and
speaking,
that
it's
often
kind
of
two
structural
problems
issues,
and
it
seems
to
me
from
what
you're
presenting
that
you're
working
on
addressing
both
of
those
one
being
the
appeals
process
that
we're
talking
about
and
the
other
being
keeping
the
assessment
close
to
that
market
value
for
all
properties
across
the
Spectrum.
U
AB
V
Well,
I
I
think
that's
always
a
possibility.
You
know
if
you're
looking
for,
let's
say
the
idea
that
chairman
Newman
had
on
the
short-term
rentals.
If
we
buy
the
data
and
you're
looking
at
starting
to
look
at
these
and
capture
the
Improvement
data
from
that,
then
can
you
start
on
that
immediately
sure
you
can
do
that?
Do
we
currently
have
the
bandwidth
within
our
organ,
our
department
to
pull
one
person
out
and
just
have
them?
Do
that?
V
AB
V
AB
B
I
I
think
we
should
have
I
mean
I.
Think
this.
These
are,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
in
here,
there's
a
lot
of
different
specific
recommendations.
Some
are
small,
some
are
bigger,
you
know
financially,
but
I
I
think
this
is
a
good
discussion
and
I
I
think
it
would
be.
You
know-
and
this
is
all
just
kind
of
sinking
into
you-
know
we're
kind
of
having
questions.
Hearing
answers,
letting
us
sink
in
I
think
we
should
have
a
follow-up
discussion
on
this
I
think
you
know,
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful.
B
N
I'm
glad
you
said
that
Ronnie
I
for
me
this
is
you
know
what
I
think
is
probably
the
first
of
a
series
of
conversations
that
we're
going
to
have
about
this.
This
is
a
lot
of
information,
a
lot
to
process
a
lot
to
dig
in
on
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
it
right
as
we're
doing
it
and
I
certainly
do
appreciate
that
there's
some
short-term
options
that
I
think
we
can.
You
know
start
to
make
some
immediate
decisions
on,
but
also
some
longer
term
ones
as
well
and
I
appreciate
what
you've
continued
to
say.
N
Keith
is
that
we
have
to
be
creative
in
terms
of
how
we're
looking
at
this
and
it's
not
a
one-size-fits.
All
I
also
appreciate
the
work
that
you
and
your
folks
have
done,
assigning
costs
to
each
of
these
and
making
some
particular
recommendations.
I
know
one
of
the
things
that
I've
continued
to
hear
is.
We
should
have
a
reappraisal
more
often
and
looking
at
that
cost
in
and
of
itself.
N
I
think
is
very
telling
to
many
of
the
groups
that
have
reached
out
saying
that
that
should
be
at
the
top
of
our
list,
that
that's
that's
quite
expensive
when
there's
other
things
that
we
can
do
to
probably
get
an
end
result.
That's
in
the
same
direction
that
we
want
a
head
that
doesn't
cost
quite
as
much.
So
thank
you
for
long
and
short
term
and
Solutions
you're.
R
X
Okay,
one
of
the
areas
Keith
before
you
leave.
This
is
great
work
and
all,
but
going
forward.
One
of
the
areas
I'd
like
to
see
us
look
at
when
we
talk
about
Equity
Is,
How,
We
Do,
the
foreclosures,
because
I've
seen
some
situations
in
the
past
and
especially
when
I
was
working
in
banking.
That
didn't
appear
to
me
to
be
quite
kosher,
but
I
will
get
together
on
that
I'll
have
some
more
questions.
Yeah.
V
B
All
right,
Keith,
thank
you,
appreciate
everyone
being
here
tonight.
Who's
been
working
on
this,
and
so
thank
you
all
for
your
contributions
to
this
important
conversation.
All
right.
Next
item
on
the
agenda
under
new
business
budget
amendment
for
Justice,
Services,
Grant,
Awards
and
update
John
Hudson
is
here
to
present
the
side
of
me.
AC
Evening
so
we
have
a
two
budget
amendments
to
accept:
Grant
Awards,
the
ojp
community
violence
initiative
is
a
three-year
Grant
and
the
amount
of
one
million
four
hundred
ninety
six
thousand
756
dollars.
This
does
not
require
a
match.
This
request
asks
to
establish
the
grant
manager
position
funded
by
the
grant
to
support
the
work
by
this
grant.
AC
AD
Good
evening,
Commissioners
I'm
here
to
present
kind
of
some
good
news
and
give
you
kind
of
an
update
about
the
programs
that
we're
providing
services
for
and
the
enhancements
and
expansions
we
plan
to
do
with
the
programs
in
order
to
better
serve
those
in
the
community.
So
just
a
quick
overview,
we'll
talk
about
the
purpose
and
then
I'll
break
down
each
specific
Grant
and
the
work
and
programs
that
it
relates
to
including
background
objectives,
the
actual
award
amount
and
then
the
actual
request
for
board
action.
That
John
previously
stated.
AD
AD
They
have
a
history
of
substance,
addiction
and
incarceration,
and
so
the
goal
is
to
use
kind
of
Court
enforcement
and
Recovery
simultaneously
to
offer
a
path
to
recovery,
then,
for
our
teams
include
Justice,
Services,
probation
judges,
the
D.A
representation
from
the
public
defender's
office
and
treatment
providers,
along
with
in
accordance
to
best
practices.
The
previous
Grant
we
needed
to
we
used
to
fund
the
programs
themselves
and
it
was
specifically
for
adult
drug
treatment,
court
and
Veterans
treatment
Court
in
our
last
budget
cycle.
AD
We
knew
the
grant
was
ending
and
so
and
the
budget
for
this
year
we
were
able
to
sustain
the
programs
by
creating
a
full-time
position
that
is
operating
veterans,
treatment
Court.
So
this
enhancement
Grant
well
some
background
about
sorry.
What
we've
done
this
past
cycle
for
the
last
Grant
we've
had
56
people
complete
our
program.
We've
had
only
a
24
recidivism
rate
and
that's
comparing
it
to
the
national
average.
AD
AD
Our
enhancement
to
the
court
will
include
more
recovery,
supports
in
getting
people
into
treatment,
real
time
and
working
in
coordination
with
the
clinician
and
a
peer
support
across
all
three
services.
The
clinician
will
be
able
to
do
assessments
and
prevent
or
reduce
the
length
of
time
that
it
takes
to
get
screened
into
our
treatment
courts.
AD
The
clinician
will
also
be
able
to
provide
evidence-based
programming
for
women
and
black
males.
We
were
looking
at
our
disparate
disparities
in
our
programs
and
noticed
that
women
and
black
males
took
longer
to
complete
the
programs,
so
the
Grand
and
Broad
is
750
000.
We
are
doing
in-kind
donation,
including
our
supervision
of
services,
and
supports
again
it's
the
full-time
clinician,
a
contracted
peer
support
specialist.
We
have
been
partnering
with
Western
Carolina,
who
is
providing
evaluation.
AD
They
historically
have
evaluated
two
of
our
courts,
and
so
the
partnership
includes
now
evaluating
all
three
of
our
courts
to
include
the
outcome
data
that
I
mentioned.
Some
of
the
other
work
that
Dr
Jamie
Vasquez
has
done
is
our
Equity
analysis
and
our
recidivism
rate,
and
we
also
Implement
evidence-based
programming
to
work
with
underrepresented
groups,
and
there
is
no
obligation
to
fund
at
the
end
of
this
grant
award.
AD
The
next
grant
that
we
were
awarded
is
our
community
safety
and
violence
prevention,
and
it
builds
on
our
work
through
the
safety
and
Justice
challenge.
It
aligns
with
the
one
million
dollar
award
that
you
all
awarded
us
for
the
fiscal
recovery
funds
and
overarching
goal
again
is
to
prevent
and
reduce
Community
Violence
by
implementing
comprehensive,
evidence-based
and
community-led
approaches
to
trauma-informed
violence,
intervention
and
prevention.
AD
Mod
will
model
where
we
see
Community
violence
happening
the
most
about
a
third
of
Violent
Crime
Victims
are
black,
which
is
disproportionately
to
the
population
of
11.
There
has
been
an
increase
for
victims.
Some
excuse
me
2010
to
2020
and
being
excuse
me.
Victim
of
a
violent
crime
is
graded
for
black
residents,
and
you
can
see
the
trend
lines
on
the
right
side.
AD
That
shows
you
the
comparison
from
2010
to
2022,
realizing
that
our
violent
crime
has
increased,
but
our
population
is
increasing
as
well,
but
it's
the
disproportionate
impact
that
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
victimization,
which
is
the
lower
slide.
That
is
kind
of
remains
still
about
33
percent.
But
our
goal
is
to
ultimately
reduce
victimization.
AD
So
this
is
the
current
landscape
we
have
been
building
across
this
work.
We
initially
came
and
to
you
all
and
RFP,
to
use
our
safety
and
Justice
challenge
funds
to
request
some
initial
startup
programming,
that
included
Partnerships
with
spark,
and
my
daddy
taught
me
that
and
emoja
and
resources
for
resiliency
and
we've
also
did
some
Community
some
initial
strategic
Community
planning
that
funding
will
end
in
2023.
AD
We
did
some
research
in
that
comprehensive
model,
looking
at
Best
Practices
on
violent
Interruption
models
and
we
came
and
request
the
arpa
funds
to
implement
the
violent
Interruption
models.
In
order
to
do
all
this
work,
we
also
recognize
the
need
to
have
someone
to
coordinate
and
manage
it.
So
our
request
to
doj
was
a
grants
manager
position
to
continue
the
work
that
we've
started
in
safety
and
Justice
challenge.
The
doj
grant
requires
us
to
do
ongoing
and
continuous
strategic
planning.
AD
That's
a
county
grants
manager
that
will
manage
the
program
and
the
the
finances
and
the
budget.
It
continues
the
work
of
the
SJC
program
and
it
will
add
three
additional
community
health
workers
to
the
violence
Interruption
model.
We
will
be
issuing
a
RFP
or
a
community
partner
to
operate
the
violence,
Interruption
model
and,
lastly,
the
ojp
award
requires
us
to
do
ongoing
Community
co-facilitation
to
implement
the
Buncombe
County
violence,
prevention
and
safety
plan.
AD
So
in
summary,
it's
about
1.5
million
dollars
with
no
match
required
between
October
of
2022
and
September
2025..
The
position
that
I
mentioned
enhances
the
work
of
our
current
contractors
that
are
doing
a
lot
of
capacity,
building,
mentorship
job
placement
and
working
in
communities
to
address
kind
of
intergenerational
relationships
and
building
community.
So
it's
not
necessarily
an
evidence-based
violence
prevention
model.
But
it's
adding
to
the
work
that
the
violence
intervention
model
will
do
and
again
the
multi-sector
coalition
to
implement
the
plan.
AD
X
I
have
one
you
know
when
I
see
the
money
that
we're
spending
and
the
grants
we're
getting,
but
one
of
the
big
concerns
I
have
and
I've
watched.
It
really
increase.
Just
in
the
time
I've
been
on,
the
commission
is
the
deaths
of
young
African-American
men
in
the
community.
What
are
we
doing
to
solve
that?
You
know
I,
don't
you
know
we
do
a
good
job
of
talking
about,
but
I
still
see
it
happening,
and
if
you
look
and
I
don't
I
can't
say
it
for
sure.
X
AD
And
I
think
from
our
perspective,
this
is
Buncombe
County's.
First
time
doing
this
type
of
initiative.
We
are
learning
from
other
places
like
new
Hanover
is
actually
the
first
County
I
believe
in
Buncombe
to
do
this
violence
Interruption
model,
so
we're
hoping
that
we
could
learn
from
other
communities.
It's
also
about
building
capacity.
We
do
have
staff
that
are
supporting
mothers
who
have
lost
their
children
to
gun
violence
and
I,
believe
they
hosted
a
community
event
or
a
forum.
AD
So
it's
really
about
giving
support
to
community
and
providing
capacity
and
capacity
building,
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
great
Endeavor
and
I'm,
hoping
with
the
partnership
and
the
participatory
research,
we
can
come
back
to
you
and
say:
okay.
This
is
the
effort
that
we've
did,
and
this
is
the
outcomes
that
we
see.
X
B
R
B
B
B
AE
AE
AE
AE
B
AE
B
U
AE
B
B
I
think
we
want
to
interview
folks.
This
is,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
committee
with
a
lot
of
power.
You
know
over
like
what
you
can
do
with
your
property
and
protecting
historic.
You
know
architecture,
so
it's
an
important
one.
So
if
anybody
knows
anybody
interested
in
this
stuff
tell
them
to
get
in
there.
R
B
And
so
this
is
actually
relevant
to
the
appointment.
We
just
made
right,
because
actually
neither
of
these
applicants
live
in
the
supposed
District
that
they're
supposed
to
live
in
right.
So
can
you
kind
of
refresh
our
memory?
I
mean
Rachel's
recommendation.
Is
that
that's
we
seek
Geographic
diversity,
but
that
we
not
be
kind
of
tied
strictly
to
districts.
Correct!
Is
that
a
policy
change
that
we
need
to
like
affirm
in
order
to
make
this
kind
of
appointment?
We.
K
B
That
sounds
like
a
good
discussion
to
have
Michael.
Would
it
be
permissible?
I
mean
I'm,
just
feel
free
to
speak
up
if
anybody
disagrees,
but
I
think
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
make
disappointment
tonight,
even
though
neither
of
them
is
from
the
district.
Can
we
say
you
know
we're
aware
of
the
general
guideline,
but
we
are
voting
to
affirm
Patricia
Killian
for
this
appointment
at
this
time,
with
the
understanding
we're
going
to
further
revisit
that
policy
going
forward.
B
To
make
exceptions,
okay,
is
everybody
comfortable
with
moving
ahead
with
Patricia's
appointment
and
then
we'll
we'll
talk
about
the
policy?
The
more
detail?
Thank
you.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Lamar
all
right
on
November
1st
at
3
pm,
the
Commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville
on
November
1st
at
5
PM.
The
Commissioners
will
hold
the
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville.