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Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on November 15, 2022. To review the full agenda visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
A
Before
you
start,
I
think,
there's
a
there's,
a
short
video.
We
want
to
share
first.
So
just
hang
on
a
second.
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C
You
know.
The
six
years
has
been
one
of
the
most
probably
enjoyable
things.
I've
done
in
all.
My
career
went
through
three
County
managers,
10
commissioners,
a
couple
of
Clerks,
but
what
I'd
done
this
for
was
the
people
of
Buncombe
County
I,
never
expected
to
do
this
long
as
I
did
and
I
sure
did
not
want
to
become
a
career
politician,
so
I've
enjoyed
the
six
years.
I
will
continue
to
be
a
Buncombe
County
residents
here
and
I've
enjoyed
it.
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And
Robert
we
have
a
gift
basket
that
we
want
to
present
to
you.
It
is
a
small
token
of
our
gratitude
to
you
for
all
your
work
with
the
commission,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
here.
That
I
think
will
remind
you
of
a
lot
of
the
really
great
projects
that
we've
been
able
to
work
on
over
the
last
few
years,
and
especially
some
of
the
ones
that
you
have
particularly
had
your
fingerprints
on
so
from
the
Commissioners
and
the
staff
helped
us
with
this.
A
All
right
Commissioners,
we
now
come
to
the
public
comment
period.
So
have
we
had
folks?
Yes,
okay,
yes,
you
know,
we've
got
folks,
who've
signed
up
for
public
comments
and
so
we'll
go
through
the
list
of
folks
who've
signed
up.
If
there's
anybody
who
wants
to
speak
to
the
board
once
we
get
through
the
list
of
folks
who've
signed
up
I'll
ask
if
anyone
else
to
speak
and
we'll
take
time
to
hear
from
anybody
who
wishes
to
speak
during
public
comment.
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Each
person's
time
limit
is
three
minutes
when
you've
got
about
30
seconds,
left,
you'll
get
an
orange
light
and
then
a
red
light
when
your
time's
up-
and
we
do
ask
that
you
discontinue
once
your
time's
up,
because
we
want
to
give
everyone
the
same
amount
of
time.
So
the
first
person
that
signed
up
is
Scott
Coleman
and
I
apologize
in
advance
for
mispronouncing
anyone's
name.
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E
E
The
developers
pulled
the
plan
when
they
saw
that
there
was
significant
Community
opposition
to
the
plan
and
they
didn't
make
it
to
your
February
20
Commission
meeting
since
February,
it's
been
kind
of
in
la
la
land
and
it's
been
brought
back
going
I
call
it
a
side
door
with
it.
Instead
of
re
asking
for
rezoning
they're
now
asking
for
a
major
subdivision,
the
caveat
with
that
is.
E
It
precludes
any
public
comment,
which
is
as
a
community
member
that
has
a
significant
distaste
that
we're
being
left
out
of
the
process
with
the
18
points
that
we
had
originally
on
the
petition.
Thankfully,
one
of
those
has
been
addressed
by
the
developer
and
they
have
proposed
it's
not
approved.
They
can't
find
any
local
conservation,
easement
organization
to
partner
with
so
they're
on
a
national
search.
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G
Hello
I'm
here
to
announce
hi,
brownie
hi,
the
Buncombe
County
Committee
of
safety.
We
stand
in
peace,
integrity
and
love,
men
and
women
of
the
almighty
Creator,
and
we
are
delighted
to
declare
the
Buncombe
County
settlement.
Covenant
preamble
notice
to
the
principle
is
notice
to
the
agent
and
notice
to
the
agent
is
notice
to
the
principal
for
immediate
release.
G
We
The
Sovereign
people
living
on
and
with
the
land
in
Buncombe
County
North
Carolina,
a
free,
independent
nation
state
in
order
to
live
together
in
harmony
according
to
common
law
of
the
almighty
Creator,
and
to
facilitate
the
avoidance
of
disputes
to
facilitate
the
quick
settlement
of
disputes
which
might
arise
to
provide
for
organized
preservation
and
defense
of
life.
Liberty
and
private
property
to
protect
and
administer
public
property
for
the
benefit
of
the
inhabitants
and
to
make
certain
limited
agreements
with
other
settlements
of
sovereign
people
for
Mutual
benefit
ordained
common
Accord
and
recognition.
G
The
following
notice
from
September
23rd
2022,
September,
30,
2022
and
October
7
22,
declared
on
the
courthouse.
Steps
comes
now
inhabitants
of
Buncombe
County
by
absolute
writ
of
habeas
corpus,
in
alignment
with
natural
law
and
with
absolute
resolve.
Rebut
all
corporate
Authority
original
assembly
and
Library
records
on
date
of
as
of
September
6
2022..
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We
give
this
County
settlement
announcement,
Buncombe
County's
settlement
Covenant
in
harmony
with
all
the
100
counties
of
North
Carolina.
We
find
article
one
by
almighty,
God,
granting
us
Freedom
by
unanimous
decree,
the
local
peoples
and
local
Peaceable
lawful
assembly
in
settlement
Covenant
in
North
Carolina.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Okay,
next
up
is
Pat
Bryant.
H
Good
evening,
chair,
Newman
Commissioners
Defender
staff,
Buncombe
County,
my
name
is
Pat
Bryant,
I'm,
I'm,
finishing
16
years
of
service,
proud
service
of
the
Irwin
District
on
the
Buncombe,
County,
School,
Board
and
I'm
here
tonight.
In
that
capacity,
it's
a
little
tough
to
do
after
16
years,
but
I'm
here
tonight.
H
In
that
capacity
to
say
thank
you
to
the
members
of
this
board
and
previous
Commissioners
who've
served
on
this
board
the
body
politic
for
the
Partnerships
that
we
have
been
able
to
forge
over
more
than
the
16
years,
but
I'm
aware
of
the
past
16
years.
It's
it's
comforting
to
know
that
that
partnership
exists.
H
H
So
as
I
transition
out
at
the
end
of
this
month,
I
think
I'm,
a
I
think
I'm
still
a
board
member
through
December.
The
3rd
I
think
is
the
date,
but
as
I
transition
out
I
just
want
to
come
tonight
and
just
just
briefly
say
thank
you
to
again
to
you
and
to
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
as
a
whole
for
your
partnership
with
Buncombe
County
Schools
over
these
past
16
years.
Thank
you.
A
Pat,
thank
you
so
much
for
for
all
your
service
to
the
county
schools
and
we
normally
don't
like
make
comments
during
this
time.
But
I
just
would
you
know.
I
know:
I
speak
for
everybody
on
the
board
when
we
say
how
much
we
appreciate
the
relationship
with
the
school
board
and
you
in
particular
in
terms
of
your
long
service
to
the
community.
So
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
and
thanks
for
coming
out
tonight,
that's
really
really
very
kind.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
the
next
person
that
signed
up
is
Andy
florell;
okay,
sorry
about
that.
I
Hi,
thank
you.
I'm,
not
really
good
at
public
speaking
I
get
very
nervous
I'm
going
to
start
by
telling
you
a
quick
joke.
There's
an
old
saying
that
environmentalist
is
a
guy
who's
got
his
house
in
the
woods,
and
a
developer
is
a
guy
who
wants
a
house
in
the
woods
and
from
that
I
just
want
to
tell
you
that
I'm
not
opposed
to
The
pinner's
Cove
development,
from
the
aspect
that
this
man
who
owns
it
has
a
right
to
develop
it.
I
He
does
and
his
adherence
to
the
local
codes
that
this
board
and
others
present
are
Paramount
and
I'm
sure
he's
trying
his
best
to
comply
with
them.
Right
now
am
I
personally
thrilled
about
having
all
these
buildings
up
the
road
between
no
but
I
realize
that
this
is
more
a
legal
matter.
My
concern
tonight
is
to
talk
to
you
about
traffic,
because
what
we've
got
here
is
supposedly
an
additional
2100
trips
per
day
that
are
going
to
be
put
onto
pinner's
Cove
Road,
which
are
going
to
intersect
with
Mills
Gap
Road,
which
is
staggering.
I
I
mean
this
is
a
one
lane,
two
lane
one
lane
going
in
each
way:
a
pinner's
Cove
to
that
particular
intersection
where
there
is
no
light.
I
know
there
is
a
light
that
is
being
discussed
in
his
plans
to
manage
left
turn
traffic
and
all
that,
and
quite
honestly,
that's
needed
right
now.
I
If
any
of
the
board
members
here
were
to
go
up
to
that
traffic
or
to
that
intersection
at
seven
in
the
morning,
you'd
see
it's
already
needed
and
to
say
to
pile
on
an
additional
2100
is
going
to
create
massive
problems,
you're
going
to
have
backed
up
lines
of
traffic
you're,
going
to
have
people
eating
and
shaving
in
the
car
road
rage.
Things
I've
seen
before
when
this
kind
of
thing
happens,
where
development
happens
really
as
a
result
of
just
Builders
building
and
people
trying
to
catch
up
after
the
fact.
I
We
cannot
let
this
be
ready
fire
aim.
This
needs
to
be
addressed
now.
It's
not
the
Builder's
responsibility
to
try
and
figure
out
how
to
address
all
these
traffic
concerns.
His
responsibility
is
to
comply
with
the
codes.
It's
your
responsibility
to
represent
us
and
to
try
and
make
sure
that
this
doesn't
become
some
haphazard
thing.
That's
going
to
become
the
laughing
stock
of
Asheville
years
down.
The
road
history
is
calling
you
this
is
the
moment
to
step
up
and
try
and
figure
out
how
to
ameliorate
this
problem.
J
F
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Lee
Barwick
I'm,
also
a
resident
of
the
pinners
Cove
Community
I
wanted
to
share
my
concerns
as
well
for
the
traffic
impacts,
environmental
impacts,
please
consider
them
as
things
are
being
approved
and
figured
out
with
the
with
the
whole
situation
with
the
development.
Thank
you
all.
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A
Okay,
we
come
to.
We
have
a
couple
of
presentations.
The
first
is
a
proclamation
recognizing
adoption,
Awareness
Month
in
commissioner
Edwards
will
present
this
item
and
Heather
Sellers
from
H,
Health
and
Human.
Services
is
here
to
receive
it.
Thank
you.
K
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
Buncombe
as
follows:
one
that
the
month
of
November
2022
be
proclaimed.
Adoption
Awareness
Month
in
Buncombe,
County,
two,
that
all
citizens,
Community
agencies,
religious
organizations,
businesses
and
others
be
encouraged
to
celebrate.
Adoption
and
honor
adoptive
families.
K
J
Thanks
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you.
This
board
has
been
overwhelmingly
supportive
of
the
work
we
do
next
door
and
for
acknowledging
adoption
awareness.
This
is
an
important
piece
of
closure,
child
welfare,
welfare
involvement
and
it's
a
celebration
for
the
child
and
the
family
and
for
anyone
listening
we're,
always
in
need
of
more
families
to
open
up
their
homes
and
hearts
for
families
locally.
Thank
you.
A
L
Okay
native
Native
American
Heritage
Month,
whereas
Buncombe
County
is
committed
to
creating
an
inclusive
community
that
celebrates
diversity
and
ensures
all
residents
have
Equitable
opportunities
to
lead
healthy,
peaceful,
safe
and
sustainable
lives,
and
whereas
in
honoring,
the
cultures,
traditions
and
accomplishments
of
Native
Americans
that
have
shaped
our
country.
L
And
whereas
we
seek
to
repair
the
trauma
of
past
oppression
and
broken
trust,
both
locally
and
regionally
by
lifting
up
indigenous
cultures
and
voices
and
striving
together
to
build
a
future.
Shared.
Hope
and
promise
for
all.
Now,
therefore
be
a
result
that,
on
the
fifth,
this
the
15th
day
of
November
2022,
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners,
does
hereby
Proclaim
November
2022
as
Native
American,
Heritage
Month.
M
Shio,
my
name
is
Sonia
Sanuk.
This
is
Amy
sunuk
and
Tara
Alexander.
We
are
proud
members
of
the
Eastern
band
of
Cherokee
Indians
on
behalf
of
the
Eastern
band
of
Cherokee
Indians
that
work
for
montgom
County.
We
are
honored
and
blessed
to
accept
this
Proclamation,
the
rich
history
and
the
truth
of
the
past
should
be
recognized,
talked
about
and
never
forgotten.
M
So
he
could
become
a
U.S
citizen
and
later
move
to
Buncombe
County,
the
late
Sue
Adams,
who
dedicated
numerous
hours
in
our
schools,
educating
our
kids
about
the
eastern
band
of
Cherokee
culture
and
is,
and
the
reason
the
three
of
us
are
blessed
with
our
native
Legacy-
is
Amy's
father,
Tommy,
Sanuk
and
Taryn
asdad
marks,
which
is
here
today
when
thinking
about
the
culture
of
the
Eastern
band
of
Cherokee
Indians.
We
give
God
the
glory
and
thanks
to
offering
scripture,
Psalms,
121,
verses,
1
and
2.
M
A
All
right,
we
don't
have
any
public
hearings
at
our
meeting
this
evening,
Miss
Pender
any
items
for
County
managers
report.
O
Foreign
good
evening,
commissioners,
joining
me
today
on
this
update,
will
be
Christine
Edwards
of
Civility
localized
she's,
not
here
physically,
but
she
is
here.
Remote
I
appreciate
her
taking
the
time
at
the
last
minute
to
help
to
present
this
update,
I
want
to
get
a
nod
that
she's
here
she's
on
she's
on
okay.
O
Right
so
just
to
give
an
overview
of
what
we'll
talk
about
tonight.
I'll
provide
somewhat
of
a
background,
and
then
a
project
management
update,
Christine
is
going
to
then
come
and
share
a
little
more
detail
about
the
work
in
progress
for
the
commission
and
give
you
some
idea
of
what
we're
looking
ahead
to
then
I'll
come
back
with
the
support
of
clerk
Joyner
and
provide
you
with
an
update
on
your
commission
appointment
so
get
right
into
it.
O
So
in
preparing
for
this
quarterly
update
and
talking
to
our
County
staff,
we
reflected
on
the
effort
thus
far
and
in
talking
about
it,
the
you
know
the
concept
of
what
it
takes
to
build.
An
effective
team
came
to
mind
and
the
considerable
in
management
we
think
about
five
stages
of
building
an
effective
team.
You
see
them
here,
they're
forming
storming
norming
performing
in
a
journey
now
I
promise
you.
O
and
then
later
resolved
by
this
body
to
commit
to
reparations
via
community
Investments
and
also
committed
to
partnering
with
the
city
of
Asheville
on
the
reparations
Commission.
As
such.
Almost
a
year
ago,
we
started
working
in
conjunction
with
the
city
on
Outreach,
for
commission
members
and
developing
a
process
for
governing
boards
to
a
point.
This
body
appointed
its
members,
which
is
six
four
commission
members
and
two
alternates
in
March
of
2020..
O
Those
actions
is
what
are
what
we
consider
to
be
the
forming
stage
that
also
included
that
commission
convening
for
the
very
first
time
through
an
orientation
on
April
30th
2022.,
though
time
intensive
and
very
resource
intensive
I
feel
pretty
confident
in
saying
that
the
foreman
is
probably
the
easiest
part
of
building
a
team.
O
It
often
comes
with
some
fear,
but
also
some
optimism
and
excitement
about
a
very
new
thing.
It's
getting
to
know
and
coming
together
to
determine
what
needs
to
get
done.
This
is
what
we've
observed
in
this
effort.
The
next
phase
is
called
storming.
It's
exactly
what
it
sounds
like.
O
The
community
reparations
commission,
along
with
the
staff
and
project
team,
have
spent
about
five
to
six
months
in
this
stage
and
though
many
might
want
to
skip
it
or
just
get
past
it
and
not
talk
about
it,
because
sometimes
it's
Laden
with
conflict,
and
it
can
be
painful-
want
to
avoid
this
stage,
but
it's
inevitable
so
painful,
especially
played
out
and
sometimes
public
way,
it's
necessary
it's
how
he
push
push
ourselves
to
work
through
our
challenges
in
honest
and
real
ways.
O
O
The
challenges
are
two-sided,
they're,
relational
and
then
also
process
and
procedural
from
a
late
relational
perspective
from
a
staff
perspective
as
well,
the
city
and
county
had
to
figure
out,
you
know
what
does
it
mean
to
leave?
What
does
it
mean
to
support
co-lead
and
collaborate?
What
we
found
is
that,
in
order
to
provide
this
support
that
the
commission
needs,
we
need
full
collaboration
in
planning
and
decision
making
and
in
follow-up.
O
That,
though,
the
commission
is
exclusively
those
who
identify
as
black,
we
are
not
a
monolith
and
would
need
to
build
trust
in
recognizing
that
then,
finally,
of
course,
having
to
build
trust
among
staff,
the
project
team
and
the
commission,
members
from
a
procedural
perspective,
commissions
and
work
groups
and
committees
aren't
new
to
us
right.
We
have
a
multitude
of
them
on
both
the
city
and
the
county
side,
and
many
of
the
commission
members
have
sat
and
do
sit
on
them.
O
But
this
is
different
and
unique
in
that,
at
least
in
this
part
of
the
United
States,
we
are
the
first
local
jurisdictions
to
move
towards
repair
for
black
people
in
this
way
and
different
from
our
neighbor
in
Illinois.
We
are
looking
across
five
impact,
Focus
areas,
so
it's
complicated
it's
layered
and
it's
lading
with
historical
and
very
real
current
trauma.
O
Finally,
we're
trying
to
bring
to
life
and
demonstrate
what
it
looks
like
to
shift
power
to
those
who
have
been
historically
excluded,
which
essentially,
is
what
we
believe
the
is
necessary
to
implement
the
full
policy
intent
from
the
governing
bodies
and
generate
Trust.
This
means
figuring
out
how
to
use
the
tools
that
we
have
as
staff
to
provide
consistency
and
structure
while
also
remaining
flexible
and
Nimble
to
the
will
of
the
Commission
in
the
larger
community.
O
I've
spoken
a
lot
more
than
I
I
prefer
to,
but
we
wanted
to
give
light
and
space
to
the
challenges
we
have
experienced
in
this
storming
stage
for
two
reasons:
the
first
being.
If
we're
going
to
do
something
this
historic,
we
need
to
tell
the
story
in
full.
How
we
get
to
the
end
goal
is
just
as
important
as
the
end
goal
and
then
also
to
acknowledge
the
courage
and
and
perseverance
of
both
the
commission
members,
the
staff,
that's
supporting
this
work
and
our
elected
officials
who
are
supporting
us
through
the
work
as
well.
O
O
O
So
as
we
move
into
the
Norman
stage,
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
a
project
update
a
project
management
update.
Most
of
you
are
aware
that
the
project
management
in
full
is
managed
by
Equity,
currently
in
the
city
of
Asheville,
contracted
with
equity
in
2021.
To
do
this
work
comprehensively
additional
project
management
in
and
about
mid-august
of
2022
was
added
via
subcontract
from
tequity
for
Christine
Edwards,
who
you
hear
from
in
a
little
bit
tonight.
O
Since
the
city
council's
meeting
was
moved,
they
are
actually
hearing
a
request
from
the
city
manager
to
reassign
that
project
in
full
to
Christine
Edwards,
due
to
increased
capacity
from
equities
principal
Consultants,
so
she's
no
longer
to
provide
the
level
of
project
management
necessary
for
this.
For
this
project
from
accounting
perspective,
you
know
from
the
very
beginning,
we've
provided
in-kind
support
for
the
project
from
planning
to
Legal
advisement
to
Communications,
and
then
we
also
have
five
subject
matter
experts
assigned
to
each
Focus
area.
O
In
addition
to
that,
of
course,
the
sheriff's
office
is
providing
security,
so
this
is
a
pretty
critical
project
management
change,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
one
that
you
all
were
aware
of
that,
but
also
that
Christine
could,
since
she's,
going
to
be
taking
an
elite
role
in
the
project
management,
get
introduced
to
you
all
officially
and
tell
y'all
a
little
bit
more
about
herself
the
work
she's
done
in
Western,
North,
Carolina
and
Asheville,
and
what
she
intends
to
do
to
support
the
commission
going
forward.
P
Thank
you
good
evening.
I
hope
that
you
all
can
hear
me
and
see
me.
Okay,
thank
you
chairman
for
having
me
today
and
DK.
You
have
been
an
awesome
support
and
just
an
awesome
introduction
to
this
project
into
this
process.
So
I'm,
Christine,
Edwards
and
I
founded
a
company
called
civility
localized.
We
were
founded
in
2018
and
we're
headquartered
in
Charlotte,
North
Carolina.
We
do
have
a
history
of
working
with
the
city
of
Asheville,
so
we've
developed
some
relationships
in
Western,
North
Carolina,
most
recently
in
2020.
P
We
helped
to
develop
really
this
the
equity
strategy
that
the
city
of
Asheville
continues
to
work
under,
as
it
was
launched
from
the
2020
reimagining
Public
Safety
plan,
and
so
that's
where
some
of
those
relationships
come
from
and
so
I'm
excited
to
really
just
be
a
part
of
this
process.
Also
because
civility
localized,
we
are
centered
in
equity
and
inclusion.
P
So
this
is
definitely
a
project
that
we
wanted
to
take
on
wholeheartedly
and
just
to
speak
to
some
of
the
the
transition
and
what
to
expect
and
what
we're
hoping
to
really
do
here.
So
we
are
anticipating
a
seamless
transition
of
project
management.
In
my
view,
this
is
actually
a
pivotal
time.
P
Like
DK
said,
this
is
a
pivotal
time
in
the
project,
because
we
were
fortunate
to
work
with
equity
and
you
all
were
fortunate
to
work
with
Equity
to
get
that
Foundation
set
for
reparations
and
get
the
folks
who
needed
to
be
at
the
table
at
the
table
and
now
we're
moving
into
this
idea
of
identifying
those
harms
that
were
done
and
developing
recommendations.
And
so
what
I'm
hoping
to
bring
to
the
table
is
organization.
Structure
in
a
process
says
to
really
take
us
through
those
next
steps.
P
In
addition
to
working
with
them
virtually
and
providing
that
support,
and
when
it
comes
to
this
critical
path,
we're
going
to
be
working
with
the
IFA
work
groups
and
really
just
take
the
the
work
that
they've
done
over
the
past
several
months
and
really
set
some
structure
around
these
recommendations
that
they
are
going
to
be
putting
together
and
that
they're
going
to
be
putting
before
the
commission.
So
one
of
our
recommendations
so
under
recommendations.
When
we
talk
about
immediate
recommendations,
that
is
something
that
we've
heard
very
very
important
from
the
commission.
P
They
want
to
make
sure
that
when
we
talk
about
reparations,
we're
ending
the
harm,
so
what
that
looks
like
is
looking
at
policies
that
currently
exist
within
the
city
and
the
county,
looking
at
data
and
resources
to
make
sure
that
we
can
address
those
harms
and
we're
bringing
it
to
the
light
right.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
going
to
be
discussing
at
our
next
meeting
on
December
5th.
P
What
you
also
can
expect
is
restructuring
some
of
those
Milestone
dates
when
it
comes
to
short-term
midterm
and
long-term
recommendations.
I
have
been
working
with
these
IFA
work
groups
over
the
past
several
weeks
to
understand
what
information
they
need
in
order
to
create
a
recommendation
around
education,
for
example,
and
really
setting
those
priorities
so
I'm
working
with
the
ifas
working
with
folks
in
data
and
strategy
to
really
pull
that
data
and
pull
that
information,
so
that
we
can
make
informed
decisions
and
what
you
can
anticipate
is
at
the
start
of
the
year.
P
The
the
full
commission
will
have
some
initial
recommendations
to
review.
Let's
see
here,
as
you
can
read
here,
one
of
the
immediate
recommendations
that
has
already
been
I
believe
has
already
been
approved
and,
and
is
already
at
least
up
for
consideration.
Is
this
line
item
in
the
Buncombe
County
budget?
Really
just
affirming
that
that
reaffirmation
that
Buncombe
County
is
on
board?
And
you
know
just
really
just
reaffirming
that
in
perpetuity
having
that
500k,
you
know
line
item
budget
so
we'll
move
next
to
the
next
slide.
P
Should
I
should
I
stop
for
any
questions
or
okay
and
then,
of
course,
looking
ahead
again,
I
want
to
reiterate
the
importance
of
having
a
seamless
transition,
we're
going
to
be
sort
of
re-engineering
this
process,
adding
a
little
bit
more
structure
to
the
process
and
we're
going
to
be
basing
this
off
of
community
feedback
and
Survey
feedback.
So
at
the
end
of
each
commission
meeting
you
know,
tequity
and
our
project
management
team
has
been
surveying
the
commission
and
we
want
to
make
sure
sure
that
that
they
know
that
we
hear
them.
P
P
So
each
of
the
ifas
are
going
to
be
submitting
their
data
requests
through
myself,
the
project
manager
and
I'm
going
to
be
working
with
teams
from
both
the
city
and
the
county
to
get
those
requests
in,
and
then,
if,
though,
if
that
information
is
not
available
at
the
city
or
county
level,
then
they're
going
to
point
us
to
the
resources
that
have
that
information.
So
we
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
this
is
something
that
we're
working
on.
P
So
when
we
talk
about
a
standard
recommendation,
template
and
also
the
process
for
vetting
and
voting,
so
recently,
I
worked
in
Mecklenburg
County,
so
my
company
was
contracted
by
Mecklenburg
County
and
we
implemented
a
participatory
budgeting
project
that
reached
county-wide
and
I
know
that
reparations
in
participatory
budgeting
are
two
different
things,
but
we
pull
from
it.
Those
similarities
around
collaborative
decision
making
and
also
community-based
decision
making
and
Public
Funding
right.
P
So
that
that
is
my
hope,
is
to
get
that
up
and
running
by
the
end
of
this
year,
so
that
at
the
top
of
the
year,
the
commission,
the
full
commission,
can
actually
have
some
recommendations
to
review
and
just
really
kick
off
that
vetting
process.
P
Because,
right
now
we
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
be
one-time
projects.
Is
it
going
to
be
a
policy
change?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
long-term
ongoing
recommendation,
so
we're
also
going
to
be
bringing
in
our
legal
team
to
offer
guidance
on
that
as
well,
so
we're
going
to
be
creating
a
structure
around
that?
P
Our
hope
is
to
have
internally
to
review
that
internally
and
then
to
run
that
by
our
commission
at
the
December
5th
meeting
and
get
that
process
rolling
at
the
top
of
the
year
I'm
going
to
move
a
little
quickly,
I
know
if
it
feels
it
feels
like
I've
been
talking
a
little
bit
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
just
lay
the
foundation,
and
let
you
all
know
that
these
are
things
that
we're
working
on
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
be
a
part
of
this
transition
quickly.
I'll
touch
on
public
engagement.
P
We
want
to
re-engage
the
community
around
this.
We
know
that
it's
been
several
months.
We
want
to
open
this
process
up.
We
want
to
open
it
up
and
provide
opportunities
for
the
the
public
to
engage
and
definitely
leaning
on
the
resources
that
we
already
have
within
cape
for
the
city
and
the
county.
You
know
and
making
sure
that
we're
providing
them
with
the
information
that
they
can
share
with
the
public.
O
I
said
earlier
that
there
were
six
full
commission
appointments
and
each
Five
Focus
area
we
currently
have
one
vacancy
in
the
commission
appointments
the
full
commission
we
plan
for
there
to
be
some
attrition
as
a
part
of
this
process,
because
it's
so
extended,
and
so
you
also
pointed
to
alternates
at
this
time.
We
have
two
vacancies
in
the
alternate
category
as
well,
so
we
wanted
to
start
a
discussion
with
you
all
and
get
some
guidance
on
how
you
would
like
to
move
forward
with
filling
those
positions
and
in
thinking
about
what's
possible.
O
We
just
wanted
to
give
you
three
options.
Of
course
you
may
have
other
ideas
on
how
to
move
forward,
but
the
first
is
to
potentially
Elevate
the
current
alternate.
So
if
you
recall
the
the
city
council
made
appointments
and
alternates
the
county
did
and
then
also
the
neighborhoods,
so
they're
currently
still
alternates
that
have
not
been
elevated
to
full
commission.
So
that's
an
option.
O
We
just
tried
to
Think
Through
possible,
pros
and
cons
pros
for
that
one.
Is
you
really
don't
lose
any
time
they've
been
attending
the
meetings
and
there'd
be
just
be
continuity
and
work
and
knowledge
possible
cons
would
be
that
there
could.
Potentially,
we
could
potentially
see
a
reduction
in
representation
from
across
the
county,
not
Central
to
the
city
of
Asheville
and
then
also
a
reduction
in
members
appointed
by
further
expertise.
O
The
other
option
is
to
review
previous
applicants.
You
know
that
reduces
time
loss
no
application
process,
and
then
we
do
have
a
clear
indication
that
they
were
interested
at
some
time.
A
year
ago
they
were
interested,
and
so
the
pro
the
cause
to
that
one
would
be
some
people
could
have
relocated
or
lost
interest
depending
on
the
pool.
You
might
also
include
cons
from
above,
so
we
would
still
have
to
do
some
level
setting
and
I'm
boring.
The
third
option
is
to
reopen
the
application
process.
O
Pros
would
be
extending
opportunities
for
participation,
it
allows
for
more
access
to
people
outside
of
Incorporated,
Buncombe
County
and
just
increased
knowledge
across
the
community
on
the
commission
charging
goals.
So,
of
course,
that
option
is
one
that
will
take
the
most
time.
O
Take
most
time
on,
on
your
part
and
staff's
part
to
get
back
to
you,
I
mean
we.
It
would
also
take
some
level
setting
and
onboarding,
so
we
just
wanted
to
get.
There
could
be
a
fourth
option
that
we
hadn't
thought
of.
We
wanted
to
give
you
all
some
things
to
think
about
in
Lamar's
seeking
guidance
on
how
to
move
forward
with
those
appointments,
foreign.
O
One
vacancy
for
commission,
so
one
vacancy
and
then
two
alternates,
so
three
total
the
two
alternates
and
one
full
commission
seat.
Okay,.
A
B
A
O
Q
I
I
will
add
as
well
when
we
made
the
appointments.
Initially,
we
only
had
a
possibly
I
think
about
six
people
that
applied
that
were
outside
of
the
city
and
there
were
County
residents,
so
we
did
add
the
pool
of
the
people
that
the
city
did
not
use
as
appointments,
so
we
did
have
some
appointments
within
those
impact,
Focus
area
that
were
within
City
Limits.
If
you
remember
that
time,
foreign.
B
B
O
O
A
Correct
right,
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
what
you
just
said.
The
county
still
has
two
alternates
that
we
appointed
that
are
out
there
that
we
could
draw
from.
No,
we
don't
okay,
I
thought,
so
the
city
does
so
if
we
but
okay,
but
since
it's
our
vacancy,
we
could
draw
from
the
city's
alternates
to
fill
that
position.
That's
not
what
you're
asking
yeah.
B
Yeah,
so
what
I
was
suggesting
right?
We
could
pull
from.
It
looks
like
from
the
the
city
or
the
neighborhoods
to
fill
the
commission
vacancy
that
needs
to
be
filled.
So
we
could
do
that
because
those
folks
have
been
there
from
the
beginning
and
have
an
understanding
we're
not
starting
all
over,
but
then
the
reality.
So
we
can
do
that.
But
then
there's
our
two
alternates.
A
How
long
remind
me,
how
long
is
this,
the
term
of
the
member
serving.
O
Originally,
it
was
projected
for
two
years.
O
O
O
A
Are
we
are,
we
are,
are
y'all
looking
for
us
to
make
a
decision
tonight
or
just
to
kind
of
start.
The
process
of
making
a
decision,
because
we
would
I
mean
I,
would
want
to
probably
look
at
I
mean
who
the
specific
names
are
right,
because
we'd
have
to
make
a
choice
about
either
if
we're
drawing
from
the
applicant,
the
alternates
which
ones
so
that
would
be
the
next
step.
Right
is
to
kind
of
get
those
get
that
information
and
then
maybe
at
the
next
meeting
we
can
make
a
decision.
Q
Sure
we
really
wanted
to
kind
of
get
some
guidance,
but
we
can
definitely
provide
you
with
any
information
that
we
have
from
the
last
interview
process.
But
I
think
the
urgency
is
to
basically
get
that
vacancy
feel.
B
So
this
is
I
I
hear
you
have
a
sense
of
urgency
with
that,
so
does
Steph
I
mean
if
the
commission
agrees
that
you
could
select
one
of
the
alternates
that's
already
serving
on
there
right.
That's
I!
Guess
that's
the
first
question:
does
the
commission
agree?
I
personally
would
agree
with
you
selecting
one
of
those
alternates
and
elevating
and
I
guess.
Then
then
the
next
question
would
does
staff
have
a
recommendation
with
that
that
that
you
could
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
that.
D
I'll
jump
in
there
because
my
recommendation
will
be
to
advertise,
so
we
can
do
a
full
reach
for
the
for
the
other
two
alternates
and
see
who's
still
interested
the
applications
that
we
currently
have.
We
can
bring
them
forward
if
they're
still
interested,
but
then
we
would
get
a
full
reach
to
advertise
if
the
two
alternates.
D
B
O
Yeah,
so
he
wants
to
just
seek
some
guidance
and
if
that's
the
direction
you
want,
you
want
to
go
in
I
think
you
still
have
a
decision
point,
because
there
are
multiple
artists
and
ultimately
it's
y'all's
decision
who
you
want
to
to.
You
know
Elevate
to
that
position,
and
so
we
could
provide
you
with
names
who
the
alternates
are
a
little
more
information
about
them,
and
then
you
can
determine
if
that's
who
you
want
to
move
forward.
What.
A
Do
we
circulate
that
information
and
then
at
the
next
meeting,
we'll
either
decide
to
go
ahead
and
appoint
one
of
the
alternates
or
explore
other
possibilities
or
do
interviews?
So
let's
circulate
that,
but
but
again
just
to
make
sure
I'm
not
misremembering.
This
none
of
the
alternates
that
would
be
on
the
list
would
be
people
that
the
County
Commission
previously
interviewed,
they'd
all
be
City
and
neighborhood.
Folks.
A
But
it's
okay:
let's
share!
Let's:
let's
just
circulate
the
information
and
we'll
discuss
again
in
our
next
meeting
and
possibly
make
a
decision
or
at
least
discuss
the
next
step.
R
O
So
the
city
did
not
appoint
any
alternates
that
lived
outside
of
the
city,
so
they
were
either
neighborhood
folks,
which
we'll
have
to
double
check,
but
they
might
have
had
the
opportunity
to
appoint
like
people
that
were
a
part
of
their
neighborhood
but
had
relocated.
But
the
city
alternates
are
certainly
just
within
the
city.
The.
R
Reason
I
asked
that
I
know
a
young
man
who
moved
away.
He
came
up
in
Hillcrest,
he's
been
very
successful.
He's
come
back
here
now
to
retire
and
he
would
be
excellent
on
that
commission,
commission,
but
he
lives
in
Candler
and
when
he
applied
according
to
him
now
you
know
I,
don't
know
somebody
misplaced
his
application
or
something
they
say,
and
he
wasn't
considered.
But
I
know
him
personally.
I
know
his
family
and
he
would
be
excellent
on
that
I
mean
because
he
brings
history
to
it,
and
this
is
what
we
need.
R
A
Well,
one
of
the
Lamar:
why
don't
you
circulate
the
list
of
folks?
We
have
if
there
are
other
people
who
are
known
to
be
interested,
and
we
can
talk
about
all
that
at
the
next
meeting
and
come
up
with
a
plan
to
fill
the
vacancies
and
look
at
the
additional,
potentially
additional
alternates
to
so
great
any
other
thoughts
on
next
steps
on
this
all
right,
DK.
Anything
else.
A
Else
all
right,
Christine,
hey!
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
on
this
project
and
for
taking
time
to
give
us
these
Updates
this
evening,
and
we
appreciate
you
and
and
look
forward
to
further
updates.
A
All
right,
Avril,
any
other
items:
okay,
we
have
no
old
business,
so
we
got
a
new
business
and
the
first
one.
Actually,
these
are
all
John
Hudson
from
the
budget
offices
items.
B
And
I'll
just
speak
briefly
to
this
since
I
serve
on
the
AG
Advisory
Board.
All
three
of
these
are
donation
easements.
So
this
is
just
for
the
transaction
costs
with
these
and
they're
also
pretty
prominent.
They
kind
of
on
the
ridgeline's
forested
areas.
Ridge
lines,
one
is
actually
on
the
bunkum
Haywood
line
and
another
one's
on
the
bunk
of
Madison
line
and
they're
close
in
close
proximity
to
other
conserved
areas,
so
continuing
to
work
on
that
kind
of
increasing
the
conservation
in
specific
areas
and
looking
at
contiguous
property.
A
I
was
just
just
curious,
all
right,
further
discussion,
all
right,
and
so
just
you
know,
we
just
really
appreciate
the
property
owners
who
you
know,
work
on
these
projects
and
agree
to
make
this.
You
know
commitment
of
their
properties
to
long-term
protection
of
these
places
that
people
love
in
Buncombe
County.
So
much
so
very
grateful
to
all
the
folks
who
helped
make
these
projects
happen.
A
All
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Next
approval
of
cross-functional
line
item
transfers,
memo.
S
So
per
North
Carolina
General
statute,
159
15,
the
board
May
authorize
the
budget
officer
to
transfer
money
between
functions
in
the
general
fund.
As
we
budget
by
function,
Buncombe
County's
budget
ordinance
allows
the
county
manager
to
do
this
transfer
in
an
amount
of
up
to
75
thousand
dollars.
The
statute
provides
that
such
transfers
will
be
reported
to
the
board
at
the
next
meeting,
I'm
here
to
provide
a
memo
of
the
Soul
transfer
of
this
nature.
This
fiscal
year.
S
Sixteen
thousand
one
hundred
forty
six
dollars
was
moved
from
Public
Safety
function
and
five
thousand
five
hundred
fifty
eight
dollars
from
the
Human
Services
function
for
a
total
of
twenty
one
thousand.
Seven
hundred
four
dollars
to
the
general
government
function
for
the
purpose
of
consolidating
a
janitorial
contract
at
35.
Woodfin.
A
S
So
this
budget
amendment
moves
the
1
million
240
600
of
expenditures
and
revenues
remaining
in
the
fiscal
year,
22
affordable
housing
project
and
places
them
in
the
fiscal
year
23
project
it
also
realizes
as
Revenue
two
hundred
forty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
fifty
five
dollars
in
previously
unbudgeted
program
income
from
loan
repayments
and
adds
that
to
the
fiscal
year
23
project
for
a
total
of
1
million
488
155
dollars.
This
does
not
require
any
additional
County
dollars.
A
A
Okay:
let's
go
to
the
tourism
Development
Authority.
We
interviewed
a
lot
of
these
applicants
earlier
today,
so
we
appreciate
everyone's
taking
time
to
come
answer
some
questions
and
I.
Think
what
I'll
suggest
is
we
just
go
down
the
just
go
down
the
aisle
I'll
start
over
with
commissioner
Edwards
and
if
folks
would
just
identify
who
their
favorite
applicant
is
and
we'll
go
through,
and
you
know
that
go
ahead.
Go
ahead!.
A
The
tourism
Development
Authority,
whether
it
is
permissible
under
state
law.
A
If
an
organization
wanted
to
have
a
person
participate
in
a
meeting
virtually
and
the
proper
notice
was
given,
if
that's
needed,
is
that
permissible
in
North
Carolina
I
understand
from
what
you
mentioned
earlier
post
pandemic
emergency.
The
state
law
is
very
specific
that
County
Commission
meetings
and
Municipal
city
council,
like
meetings,
must
be
attended
in
person
in
order
for
members
to
vote,
but
on
a
board
like
the
TDA
is
doing
a
virtual
meeting
possible.
T
I
I
think
it
is,
but
for
their
bylaws
Lamar
was
able
to
dig
up
the
bylaws.
They
have
old
bylaws
out
of
date.
It
still
has
it
when
they
had
nine
members
from
2013..
There's
11
members
now,
but
it
said
they
needed
to
have
four
members.
It
does
it's.
The
state
statute
says
that
you
you've
created
the
TDA
board
and
it
shall
establish
its
own
rules,
so
it
doesn't
really
address
that
issue.
Okay,
so.
A
Speak
okay
and
so
they're
going
to
be
revising
their
bylaws
anyway,
so
convenient
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
For
that
clarification,
so
you
know
before
we
before
we
start
traveling
off
our
favorite
candidates.
A
Here
you
know
the
one
thing
about
just
the
process:
I
wanted,
maybe
just
have
a
brief
discussion
about,
is
because
I
don't
know
if
we've
I
don't
know
if
we've
discussed
this
before
and
Michael
feel
free
to
weigh
in
on
this
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
out
loud,
you
know:
do
we
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
we
need
a
majority
of
the
board
to
appoint
someone
like,
for
example,
if
and
I,
don't
know
how
this
is
going
to
turn
out
at
all
I
swear
so,
but
if
we
went
down
and
theoretically
everybody
had
one
person
that
they
liked
and
only
let's
say
one
one
applicant
only
had
two
Commissioners
supporting
them,
but
that
actually
was
more
than
anybody
else
got.
A
Would
that
person
be
appointed
because
it
seems
a
little
strange
that,
like
the
Board
of
Commissioners,
would
appoint
someone
that
maybe
only
like
two
out
of
seven
commissioners
supported
so
I.
Just
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
process
question
we've
raised
before,
usually
it's
a
very
clear
majority,
but
is
that
something
we
need
to
think
about
before
we
start
voting
on
this
one.
A
Acceptable
to
everyone
as
a
process-
maybe
all
right
yes,
fair
enough,
it
could
happen.
It
could
happen.
Okay,
commissioner,
commissioner
Edwards,
what
say
you.
A
All
right,
my
concerns
were
unfounded:
Elizabeth
Putnam
got
the
majority
of
the
votes,
so
I
appreciate
all
the
people
who
applied
and
congratulations
to
Elizabeth
and
she'll
be
the
new
appointee,
representing
the
short-term
rental
carved
out
position
on
the
board.
All
right,
those
are
all
the
board
appointments,
we've
gotten
two
announcements:
chairman
Newman.
Q
For
some
advertisement
time
on
the
bottom
of
the
board
appointment
seat,
there
are
some
information
that
I
want
to
share
with
the
board,
and
so
we
can
possibly
get
some
more
applicants
for
this.
We
currently
have
no
applications
for
the
environmental
energy
stewardship
subcommittee.
We
had
a
vacancy
there.
If
anybody
out
there
would
like
to
apply,
we
are
taking
applications
for
the
general
obligation,
bonds,
Community
oversight
committee.
A
A
Q
Is
identified
but
I
don't
currently
know.
A
A
So,
just
so
just
to
kind
of
highlight
that
so
this
there
was
the
voters
last
week
approved
the
conservation
Bond
30
million
the
affordable
housing
Bond
40
million
dollars.
We
have
a
Citizens
oversight
committee,
that's
gonna!
It's
it's
not
going
to
have
to
meet
frequently,
but
it
has
the
responsibility
of
assuring
that
all
the
funds
are
invested
and
purposes
defined
in
the
bond
language.
A
So,
if
anybody's
interested
in
that,
we
encourage
them
to
go
to
the
County
website
and
there
are
specific
positions
for,
like
a
banker,
an
accountant,
someone
from
the
affordable
housing
community,
somebody
from
the
conservation
and
Greenways
community.
So
there's
several
different
positions
check
it
out
and
if
you
meet
the
criteria,
we'd
love
to
have
you
apply?
A
L
Are
we
advertising
for
the
just
a
random
question?
Are
we
advertising
for
the
reparations
vacancy
at
this
point?
I
couldn't
quite
dwell.
I.
A
Don't
think
we
decided
to
do
further
advertising
for
now,
I
think
we're
going
to
look
at
the
it
has
a
hedge
we're
going
to
look
at
the
the
alternates
commissioner
Whitesides
mentioned.
There
is
someone
who
I
think
intended
to
apply
or
try
to
apply.
So,
if
there's,
if
so
at
the
next
meeting,
we
can
talk,
we
can
talk
about
it
and
because
we
will
it
sounds
like
we
definitely
need
to
appoint
a
new
full-time,
full
commissioner
and
possibly
appoint
new
alternates
who,
for
all
practical
purposes,
do
serve.
D
A
Well,
can
we
look
at
that
and
and
and
if
and
if
we
don't
would
it
be,
would
everybody
be
comfortable
with
us
kind
of
having
that
in
consideration,
since
it
sounds
like
this
person
did
want
to
apply
and
try
to
apply
or
something
so
something
happened,
maybe
not
be
able
to
figure
that
out,
but
wouldn't.
A
So
are
we
saying
we're
opening
it
up,
I
guess:
I
guess.
Are
we
saying
that
I
mean
I,
guess
I'd
like
to
look
at
the
information
I
mean
my
first
Instinct
would
be
to
appoint
one
of
the
alternates
to
the
full-time
position,
because
that's
why
they
were
appointed
right,
so
it'd
kind
of
be
a
little
bit.
I
mean
that's
that's
why
they're
there
is
to
step
into
that
role
and
they've
been
into
all
the
meetings.
A
A
Foreign
open
it
up
because
at
minimum
we
may
want
to
add
we
don't
have
to
add
additional
alternates,
that's
kind
of
a
recommendation,
but
we
don't
have
to,
but
we
could.
We
could
open
it
up
and
see
see
if
we
get
some
and
then
this
this
person
could
who
previously
sought
to
apply
could
apply
any
bail
supplies.
We
could
just
look
at
all
that
we
don't
have
to
entire
hands
for
what
we
do.
A
Open
it
up,
I
think
just
like
we
did
before
for
people
who
are
interested
in
serving
and
then
you
know
it
might
be
an
alternate.
It
might
be
a
full
position.
You
know
we
didn't
guarantee
Which
slot.
It
might
go
into
last
time
just
for
for
people
who
are
interested
in
serving
okay
in
some
capacity
alrighty.
A
On
December
5th
at
3
pm,
the
County
Commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville
on
December
5th
at
5
PM.
The
County
Commissioners
will
hold
the
regular
meeting
at
200
College
Street
room
326
in
downtown
Asheville.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adjourn
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
we're
adjourned.