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Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on December 5, 2022. To review the full agenda visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
A
I
would
I
want
to
announce
that
anybody
who's
attending
the
meeting
who
parked
in
one
of
the
Park
County
parking
garages
or
used
public
transit
to
travel
to
the
meeting
can
get
validation
for
your
parking
or
Transit.
Just
see
one
of
the
sheriff's
officers
on
your
way
out
and
they
can
validate.
That
I
would
like
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
Financial
impact
for
any
board
member?
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
at
this
meeting
there
being
none
all
board,
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
all
matters
voted
on
by
the
board.
At
our
meeting
tonight,
oh
so
we
come
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
A
A
Okay,
before
we
vote,
let
me
ask
the
members
of
the
public:
does
anybody
have
any
question
about
any
items
that
are
on
the
consent
agenda,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed?
A
Okay,
we
come
to
public
comment.
We
have
a
number
of
folks
who
have
signed
up
so
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
list,
apologize
in
advance
if
I
mispronounce
anyone's
name
and
if
there's
anybody
interested
in
making
public
comment,
who
didn't
sign
up
there'll
be
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Once
we
go
through
the
list
of
the
folks
who
did
sign
up.
A
The
first
person
that
signed
up
is
Scott
Coleman
and
as
Scott's
coming
up
I'll
just
share
that
the
time
limit
for
public
comments.
Three
minutes
you'll
get
an
orange
light
when
you've
got
about
30
seconds
left
and
a
red
light
and
a
beep
will
go
off
once
your
time's
up,
and
we
ask
everyone
to
discontinue
their
comments
once
your
time's
up,
because
we
want
to
give
everyone
the
same
amount
of
time.
C
C
C
December
22.
A
year
ago,
klp
pinner's
applied
for
rezoning
of
a
portion
of
the
property
on
pinner's
Cove
Road.
In
that
application
there
was
no
mention
of
a
conservation,
easement
January
10,
Buncombe
County
Planning
Department
accepted
this
their
staffs
approval
of
the
application
and
recommended
sending
it
to
the
planning
board.
C
Which
was
scheduled
for
January
24.
on
January
20
I
received
a
call
from
the
Buncombe
County
planning
director
asking
that
I
have
quote
my
people
to
stop
calling
the
members
of
the
planning
board
with
concerns
about
rezoning
on
the
24th
of
January
of
this
year,
Buncombe
County
planning
board
voted
7-1
to
reject
the
recommendation
to
the
bunkum
count
of
the
plan
to
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
January
28th,
Buncombe,
County,
I'm,
sorry,
klp
penners
asked
for
the
ask
the
planting
board
or
the
planning
department
recommendations
on
what
was
the
next
step
available.
C
C
They
applied
May
20,
they
applied
for
a
major
subdivision
for
since
they
could
not
get
the
rezoning
done
that
they
wanted
to.
C
D
Thank
you
and
again
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
penners
Cove
development,
North
American
land
trust
has
agreed
to
be
the
agent
for
this
sham
conservation.
Easement.
You
see.
The
developer
is
running
a
sewage
pumping
station
through
the
middle
of
this
easement,
so
there
will
be
zero,
Recreation
or
environmental
benefits
here.
D
This
look-alike
proposal
was
rejected
by
your
planning
board
by
seven
to
one
in
January
nault,
North,
American
land
trust
has
been
involved
in
contested
easements
in
particular.
One
recently
highlighted
in
the
Philadelphia
Inquirer
in
March
and
I
quote
the
title
from
the
Philadelphia
Inquirer
Chester
County
Land
Trust
helped
Trump
save
Millions,
that's
just
one
of
its
deals,
end
of
quote
Buncombe
County
deserves
better
than
this,
and
you
have
the
opportunity
to
disapprove
of
nault's
appointment.
D
Furthermore,
biznow
media
reported
in
May
that
the
IRS
has
been
working
to
crack
down
on
investors
who
use
a
tax
break
meant
for
preserving
natural
resources
to
profit
at
taxpayer,
expense,
and
it
hasn't
been
going
well
so
I'm,
not
counting
on
the
federal
government
to
help
in
this
situation.
But
I
am
counting
on
you,
our
local
government,
to
know
better
and
to
do
the
right
thing
by
rejecting
nault,
Parker,
Sloan
and
Martin
Moore
all
District
3
voters
are
counting
on
you
and
really
who
wants
to
be
the
butt
of
political
cartoons.
D
I'm
sure
you've
seen
the
recent
one
in
Mountain
Express.
Do
the
right
thing
deny
this
proposal.
There
are
articles
in
the
citizen
times
and
Mountain
Express,
as
well
as
to
a
political
ad,
so
stop
this
opportunity.
D
E
Thank
you
welcome,
commissioner
Moore
welcome
Dr
Jackson
I
want
to
thank
the
board
for
listening
change,
the
occupancy
tax
as
one
of
your
top
tier
legislative
priorities
for
the
upcoming
year.
E
This
is
yet
another
public
recognition
from
this
body
that
this
that
this
tax,
despite
recent
adjustments,
remains
deeply
flawed,
undemocratic
and
harmful.
When
you
finalize
these
priorities,
we
hope
that
changed.
The
occupancy
tax
remains
at
the
top
of
your
list,
because
changing
the
tax
could
unlock
millions
of
dollars
each
year
to
benefit
other
County
priorities
that
you've
identified,
such
as
education,
Child,
Care,
Broadband,
housing,
other
cities.
We
know
use
occupancy
tax
funds
for
these
purposes,
and
even
tourism
industry
leaders
are
now
calling
for
more
attention
to
be
given
to
communities.
E
E
E
Lobbying
the
TDA
to
send
money
from
the
Legacy
fund
to
affordable
housing
this
year
is
realistic
and
attainable
through
the
legislation's
recent
change
in
language.
We
are
ready
to
join
you
in
that
effort,
working
with
State
elected
leaders
on
a
new
local
bill
to
revise
this
tax
towards
something
more
democratic
and
just
is
attainable.
E
We
are
ready
to
join
you
in
organizing
a
group
to
travel
to
Raleigh
to
help
this
happen.
We
also
know
this
body
has
powerful
tools
such
as
lowering
the
rate
of
the
tax
or
canceling
the
tax
altogether,
if
the
TDA
or
Raleigh
keep
ignoring
the
realities
of
workers
and
families
in
Buncombe,
it's
past
time
for
revenues
earned
by
workers
to
address
basic
critical
needs
with
workers
and
elected
leaders
included
in
these
decisions.
E
E
F
The
occupancy
tax
should
be
spent
on
the
people
that
need
it
most
and
on
the
things
that
they
say
they
need
the
most,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
for
our
for
our
County,
that
means
subsidized
housing.
It's
really
that
simple,
but
I
want
to
use
some
of
my
time
to
say
two
things
as
a
means
of
clarifying
what
I
think
this
occupancy
tax
fight
should
be
about.
First
of
all,
I'm
not
anti-tourism
I'm,
not
even
anti-hotel
I'm,
not
anti-rezoning.
F
F
This
line
of
argument
should
not
be
taken
seriously.
The
truth
is
that
successful
cities
and
successful
counties
grow
and
if
our
county
is
growing,
that's
a
good
sign.
We
should
welcome
new
neighbors
and
see
them
as
assets
to
our
cities
and
towns.
Okay,
number:
two:
we
know
that
allocating
money
for
affordable
housing
does
not
help
if
we
don't
reform
our
zoning
codes,
cities
from
California
to
Massachusetts
have
actually
voted
for
subsidized
home
construction
and
then
little
has
been
built
because
of
exclusionary
zoning.
F
F
So
right
now,
there's
a
big
pot
of
money.
That's
going
to
tourism
advertising
when
most
residents
in
the
county
have
better
ideas
on
how
that
money
should
be
spent
again.
We
know
that
spending
more
on
subsidized
housing
is
Chief
among
those
ideas,
so
I
hope
that
the
county
will
have
serious
discussions
about
how
we
can
make
the
occupancy
tax
more
democratic
and
I
hope
we'll
talk
about
this
stuff,
not
because
we're
anti-growth
or
that
we
blame
Outsiders,
or
that
we
use
tourism
as
a
distraction.
F
A
Thanks
Andrew
next
is
Jen
Hampton.
G
Hello
happy
to
be
here
again
good
to
see
y'all.
My
name
is
Jen
and
I'm
here,
both
as
a
resident
of
Buncombe
County
and
as
the
co-chair
of
Asheville
food
and
beverage
United
also
I'm
here
to
talk
about
changes
to
the
occupancy
tax.
We're
really
happy
to
see
that
y'all
listed
it
as
a
possible
top
priority
for
your
new
legislative
agenda
and
we
are
really
hopeful
that
you'll
keep
it
that
way.
G
The
current
structure
of
the
tax
keeps
millions
of
dollars
locked
up
in
a
marketing
fund.
That
is
meant
to
attract
more
visitors,
which
is
you
know,
a
good
thing,
but
it
also
entices
more
people
to
buy
up
homes
that
they're
going
to
use
for
short-term
rentals,
which
decreases
the
inventory
of
long-term
rentals
and
increases
the
cost
of
living
for
residents
in
this
County
and
due
to
the
high
cost
and
low
availability
of
affordable
housing.
G
G
From
out
there,
a
personal
anecdote,
my
daughter
recently
she
moved
out
to
South
Turkey
Creek
to
rent
a
little
room
for
600
a
month,
but,
however,
her
car
was
recently
totaled,
and
so
since
there's
no
Transportation
public
transportation,
she
had
to
move
in
with
me
in
my
tiny
little
apartment
so
that
she
can
ride
the
bus
to
work
and
I
know.
Many
people
are
not
that
fortunate
to
have
somebody
in
town
that
they
can
move
in
with.
G
G
I
think
that
the
county
is
one
body
that
can
do
something
can
do
something
about
more
affordable
housing
and
providing
more
funding
for
transportation
and
things
like
that
that
people
need
really
to
survive
and
in
addition,
there
have
been
so
many
people,
so
many
workers
specifically
moving
out
of
the
city
and
into
the
county
that
it's
really
had
a
big
impact
on
businesses
being
able
to
hire
workers
which
in
turn,
has
a
big
impact
on
the
service
that
we
are
able
to
provide
to
tourists.
G
And
we
know
that
tourism
is
a
vital
component
of
our
economy
and
we
really
want
to
see
it
continue
to
thrive.
However,
we
also
know,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
do,
that
the
industry
will
not
survive
without
an
adequate
supply
of
workers,
because
if
we
can't
live
here,
we
can't
work
here
and
then
who's
going
to
service
the
tourists.
A
All
right,
Nina,
tovich.
H
H
Thousands
of
units
of
housing
have
been
taken
off
the
long-term
rental
market
to
serve
visitors
at
higher
and
higher
rates,
while
locals
search
in
vain
for
housing.
They
can
afford
I'm
delighted
that
Buncombe
County
voters
have
passed
an
affordable
housing
Bond,
but
the
fruits
of
that
investment
are
years
away
and
will
only
begin
to
make
a
dent
in
the
overwhelming
need
our
communities
face.
H
The
TDA
allocates
the
remaining
33
percent
of
its
proceeds
from
a
burgeoning
occupancy
tax,
as
it
sees
fit
according
to
the
Judgment
of
undemocratically
appointed
members
who
represent
those
who
most
directly
profit
from
tourism
and
who
are
ultimately
both
unrepresented
above
and
unaccountable
to
Buncombe
residents
change.
The
occupancy
tax
deserves
to
be
this
commission's
top
legislative
priority
for
the
coming
year.
H
Here
are
just
a
few
of
many
strategies
to
explore
capping,
TDA
marketing
budgets
at
a
specific
amount
and
allowing
overage
to
pass
to
the
county
and
City
General
funds
demanding
Equitable
representation
on
the
TDA.
After
all,
these
are
governmentally
collected
funds
and
in
a
democracy
we
expect
the
disposition
of
those
Monies
to
be
determined
by
democratically
chosen
Representatives
number
three
reduce
the
rate
of
the
occupancy
tax
or
eliminate
it
altogether.
H
Even
simply
a
credible
threat
of
this
might
encourage
folks
in
Raleigh
to
make
some
changes
in
how
the
taxes
both
apportioned
and
allocated
our
region
has
everything
it
needs.
A
beautiful
natural
environment,
talented
energetic,
creative
and
compassionate
people
to
grow
a
diverse
economy
that
can
both
welcome
guests
and
serve
the
needs
and
well-being
of
its
residents
abundantly.
H
A
I
Foreign
good
evening,
my
name
is
Peggy
Crowe
and
I'm.
A
resident
of
Asheville
I
really
appreciate
y'all,
making
this
presenting
this
resolution
that
will
make
much
needed
changes
to
the
occupancy
tax.
At
one
point,
advertising
for
tourism
made
sense,
but
now
we're
we're
always
at
the
top
of
the
list.
Word
of
mouth
is
pretty
much
dropping
that
so
tourism
has
exploded,
while
the
needs
of
the
local
residents
have
not
been
met.
I
I
see
that
there's
two
issues
here,
one
being
the
infrastructure
that's
being
overwhelmed
by
tourism
and
the
other
is
the
inability
of
our
service
workers
to
afford
housing.
I'm
going
to
concentrate
on
the
latter,
I've
been
a
local
realtor
for
a
decade
and
watched
affording
how
affordable
housing
evaporate.
Since
2020
our
home
prices
have
just
skyrocketed,
and
even
now
that
they
are
trending
down
they're
still
highly
unaffordable.
The
October
MLS
has
shown
that
the
monthly
increase
for
October
was
10
percent
and
the
average
cost
of
housing
in
Buncombe
is
now
380
dollars.
I
Inventory
is
rising,
so
Supply
demand
is
not
really
a
driving
Factor.
Here
I've,
sadly
watched
while
whole
swaths
of
people
are
permanently
out
of
the
affordable
housing
market.
They
will
never
be
able
to
buy
and
where
home
prices
rise
so
do
rents.
So
Asheville
is
the
most
expensive
rental
market
in
the
Metro
Market
in
North
Carolina,
our
average
rental.
Our
is
seventeen
hundred
dollars
a
month,
and
this
is
12
percent
higher
than
Charlotte,
which
is
shocking
to
me,
because
you
can
get
a
lot
better
jobs
in
Charlotte.
I
Now
our
White
staff
averages
about
14.50
an
hour,
and
the
Bowen
report
shows
that
even
at
a
thousand
dollars
a
month,
which
obviously
is
not
going
to
happen
around
here-
that
20
percent
of
our
renters
use
over
50
percent
of
their
income
for
housing.
Imagine
what
life
would
be
like
if
half
of
your
gross
income
went
to
pay
for
where
you
lived.
This
is
untenable
and
it
will
only
get
worse.
I
So
you
know
and
there's
a
whole
swath
of
people
who
could
be
working
who
cannot
meet
either
of
these
options
and
I've
been
concerned
for
a
long
time
about
the
bulk
of
spending
that
has
gone
into
advertising
housing
we're
taking
an
excessive
amount
for
that,
while
our
local
resources
won't
be
able
to
continue
to
support
tourism,
it's
really
a
house
of
cards
and,
as
someone
mentioned
earlier,
if
our
essential
workers
can't
afford
to
live
here,
then
they
can't
afford
to
work
here.
So
thank
you
in
advance
for
making
this
a
priority.
A
Thank
you,
Peggy.
That's
everyone
that
signed
up
to
be
on
the
public
comment
list.
Is
there
anybody
else?
You
would
like
to
address
the
board
during
public
comment.
A
All
right
well,
thank
you
to
everyone
who
took
time
to
come
out
and
express
your
views
on
these
matters.
We
really
appreciate
hearing
from
you
all,
okay,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda.
A
Under
good
news
is
the
2022
Dogwood,
Awards
and
I
believe
that
Clint
Miller,
the
sheriff
at
Buncombe
County,
is
here
to
talk
to
us
about
this.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
Sheriff.
J
So
good
evening,
good
evening,
well,
first,
let
me
just
congratulate
the
new
in
one
case
and
again
acknowledge
that
the
Commissioners
have
been
re-elected
so
I
just
want
to
congratulate
them,
and
so
again
congratulations.
J
So
what
I'm
here
to
speak
about
today
is
the
Dogwood
2022
Dogwood
Awards.
These
wars
were
actually
presented
by
the
North
Carolina
attorney
general
Josh
Stein,
so
I'll
read
on
November
22nd
North,
Carolina
attorney
general
Josh,
Stein
announced
Sarah
Gayton
and
my
Hughes
as
recipients
of
the
2022
Dogwood
Awards.
The
two
were
recognized
for
their
fighting.
J
The
Dogwood
Awards
recognized
North
Carolinians,
who
helped
make
our
communities
safer,
stronger
and
healthier.
So
I
believe
they
are
here
today.
So
please
come
this
way.
If
you
like
I,
just
want
you
guys
to
stand
up,
be
recognized,
please
yeah.
They
saw
because
we
don't.
We
didn't
plan
anything
here.
J
So
so,
in
additional
comments,
I
want
to
say
is
this
that
I've
said
this
and
I'll
say
this
tonight
that
making
a
difference
and
making
excuses
they
don't
reside
together.
These
folks
have
made
a
difference.
They
have
you
know.
We've
been
faced
with
a
lot
here
and
a
lot
of
excuses
been
made.
How
do
we
help
people
who
are
incarcerated
and
who
are
suffering
from
this
I
call
it
a
disease,
and
tonight
I
just
want
to
tell
you
these
folks
and
to
make
excuses.
J
L
L
I
guess
I'm
going
to
keep
it
short
and
sweet
and
simple
I
was
very
humbled
only
because
I
there
were
predecessors
in
this
role.
It's
it's
a
blessing
that
people
are
arrested
in
Buncombe
County
and
they
have
all
the
support
that
peer
support
and
officers
CEOs
every
everybody.
It's
a
community
and
it's
a
team
effort
and
it's
it's
been
an
honor.
So
thank
you.
A
A
All
right,
the
next
item
under
presentations
is
the
physical
year
2022
audit
presentation
and
Don
Warren.
The
finance
director
will
present
this
item.
M
Good
evening,
Commissioners
hope
you're
all
doing
well.
The
audit
has
been
concluded.
We
have
our
opinion.
The
process
went
really
well.
We
didn't
run
into
any
issues
as
like
previous
years,
worked
very
well
with
CLA.
Chris
is
here
to
provide
you
with
the
actual
presentation
and
walk
you
through
the
audit
and
then
at
the
end.
I
would
be
appreciative
if
you
would
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
auto
report.
N
Thank
you
good
evening,
Commissioners
good,
to
see
you
again.
As
John
said:
I'm
Chris,
Kessler
I'm,
a
principal
with
CLA
I,
am
the
lead
of
your
audit
engagement
for
the
year
2022.
a
little
bit
about
CLA
for
for
the
new
faces
on
the
board.
Here
we
are
the
eighth
largest
public
accounting
firm
in
the
country.
We
are
a
national
firm
over
7
000
employees,
120
offices
around
the
country
and
me
and
my
team
of
audit
professionals
around
the
firm
Focus
solely
on
serving
state
and
local
governments.
N
So
we
are
not
individuals
that
do
taxes
during
tax
season
and
serve
governments
during
off
season.
I
cannot
answer
your
tax
questions
so
we'll
hold
those
for
another
day.
That's
a
little
bit
about
us.
So
what
did
we
do
for
you
all
for
the
2022
financial
statement,
audit
and
the
compliance
audit,
so
the
services
that
we
performed
are
no
different
than
they've
performed
in
Prior
years.
The
scope,
the
timing
things
like
that
on
our
audit
procedures
did
not
change.
N
We
presented
or
I
presented
to
the
audit
committee
earlier
today,
and
one
of
the
requests
that
came
out
of
that
committee
meeting
was
a
little
bit
of
background
on
what
our
audit
consists
of
what
what?
What
are
we
looking
at
when
we
perform
our
financial
statement
audit
and
our
federal
and
state
compliance
audit,
and
so
what
what?
That
means
when
we
are
perform
audit
procedures,
we
are
auditing
on
a
sample
basis,
we're
looking
at
Material
transactions,
so
big
dollar
amounts
high
risk
areas
and
we're
performing
analytics
and
Performing
samples.
N
So
we're
not
looking
at
every
dollar
that
has
been
spent.
We're
not
looking
at
every
number
on
the
financial
statements.
We
are
taking
a
risk-based
approach
that
industry
standards
require
to
really
hone
in
on
both
where
the
risks
may
be
based
off
of
the
nature
of
the
operation
of
the
client
and
where
the
large
dollars
are.
So
when
you
look
at
the
financial
statements,
you
talk
about
Revenue
expenses
salaries.
N
You
look
at
internal
controls
when
you
think
of
our
federal
and
state
Grant
compliance
audit,
we're
looking
at
the
big
large
grants
that
you
all
expend
every
single
year
and
we're
picking
samples
on
some
of
the
guidelines
and
the
rules
that
the
federal
government
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
wants
us
to
test.
So
we're
looking
at
allowability
we're
looking
at
eligibility,
we're
looking
at
work
processes
and
procedures
in
accordance
with
the
grants
followed
in
what
we're
looking
at,
and
so
those
are
the
real
main
components
of
what
we
look
at
in
our
audit
procedures.
N
That
allows
us
to
deliver
the
reports
that
we
do
so.
Our
reports
that
go
into
your
financial
statements,
there's
three
main
opinions
and
Auditors
reports
and
they're
listed
here,
but
it's
essentially
our
Auditor's
opinion,
which
is
the
opinion
on
the
financial
statements.
Our
report
on
internal
control
over
financial
reporting,
which
is
where
we
report
on
and
internal
controls
and
the
test
work
we
did
around.
Those
are
what
we
call
our
single
audit
report,
which
is
our
independent
Auditor's
report
on
compliance
with
both
federal
and
state
grants.
N
And
then
we
also
issue
a
governance
communication
letter
to
you
all
as
the
board.
This
summarizes
our
audit
procedures.
This
is
where
we
would
include
any
sort
of
challenges
or
concerns
or
issues
that
arose
during
the
audit,
as
well
as
maybe
some
significant
items
you
all
need
to
be
aware
of.
There
were
no
challenges
or
anything
along
those
lines,
so
the
letter
itself
is
fairly
straightforward,
but
I'm
going
to
talk
through
some
of
the
required
Communications
that
we
have
to
include
in
those
to
you
all
on
this
next
slide
here.
N
So
some
of
the
required
Communications
that
we
have
to
make
you
know
is
our
Auditor's
opinion.
It
was
unmodified.
So
that
means
it's
a
clean
opinion
on
the
financial
statements.
That's
the
highest
level
of
opinion
you
all
can
receive.
That
means
that
the
numbers
are
free
of
material
misstatement
based
off
those
procedures,
We
performed.
We
did
include
an
emphasis
of
a
matter
paragraph
this
year,
which,
which
is
something
that's
different
from
prior
years.
What
this
is
is
when
there's
certain
changes
in
accounting
policies
or
certain
issues
that
have
Arisen
during
the
audit.
N
We
have
to
include
a
paragraph
in
our
opinion
to
draw
attention
to
it
and
there
was
a
new
accounting
standard
that
the
county
had
to
implement
this
year.
That
was
very
large
and
it
it
impacted
the
financial
statements.
So
it
didn't
impact
our
opinion,
but
we
do
call
attention
to
it
within
our
opinion.
So
I
did
want
to
make
you
all
aware.
As
you
look
at
our
reports,
that
is
different
from
prior
years,
our
Auditor's
opinion
on
compliance
again
unmodified
clean
opinion,
the
scope
and
timing
of
the
audit.
It
proceeded
as
planned.
N
There
were
no
changes
as
a
result
of
anything
that
we
found
as
we
dug
in
significant
accounting.
Policies
were
in
accordance
with
generally
accepted
accounting
principles
Gap
as
we
refer
to
it
and
then
changes
in
accounting
policies,
as
I
mentioned
before
the
county
did
have
to
implement
a
new
standard
gas
b87
on
that
changed
how
you
all
have
to
account
for
leases
within
your
financial
statements.
The
simplest
way
to
describe
that
changes
is
that
now
the
standard
centers
ex,
want
you
all
to
report
lease
obligations
as
you
would
long-term
debt.
N
So
if
you
have
a
five-year
lease
obligation
that
is
non-cancelable
previously,
you
were
just
expending
those
costs
as
they
were
incurred.
The
standard
centers
now
want
governments
to
put
that
obligation
on
their
balance
sheet
and
a
corresponding
asset
for
that
vehicle
copier,
building
whatever
it
may
be,
that
you're
leasing.
So
if
you
look
at
your
financial
statements
in
comparison
with
prior
years,
you
will
see
lease
liabilities
on
your
balance
sheet
this
year,
where
you,
hadn't
years
past
the
significant
risks
that
we
have
to
address
within
our
audit
procedures.
N
This
was
a
change
this
year
that
we
have
to
call
these
out
specifically
in
our
communication.
The
risks
themselves
are
not
any
different
than
prior
years
as
a
standard.
We
always
go
into
every
audit,
knowing
we
have
to
design
additional
procedures
around
Revenue
recognition
and
internal
controls
and
the
possibility
of
management
overriding
internal
controls,
that's
not
to
say
that
you
all
had
a
a
higher
risk
or
anything
different
than
than
prior
years,
as
a
relief
relates
to
these
two
things.
N
The
standards
that
we
operate
under
require
us
to
communicate
them
in
a
setting
like
this
now.
So
from
your
all
standpoint,
we
design
additional
procedures
to
address
these
risks
that
we
consider
to
be
a
little
bit
higher
than
maybe
some
other
areas.
So
when
we
dive
into
internal
controls
and
really
dig
into
the
processes
of
approvals
reviews
proper
accounting
on
those
transactions,
we've
always
been
doing
that
to
address
that
risk.
We
had
no
material
audit
adjustments
in
the
audit.
N
There
were
two
uncorrected
misstatements
that
were
immaterial
to
the
financial
statements
and
will
be
cleaned
up
going
forward.
We
had
no
difficulties
encountered
in
performing
the
audit.
We
had
no
disagreements
with
management
and
the
management
team
was,
as
always
a
pleasure
to
work
with.
They
were
Cooperative.
They
were
helpful
great
to
work
with
in
getting
us
what
we
need
so
and
I
know.
As
I've
said
this
in
Prior
years.
We
ask
a
lot
of
questions.
N
We
ask
for
a
lot
of
information
in
performing
an
audit
of
this
size,
so
it
is
a
big
lift
for
the
finance
team
and
everybody
else
involved
to
get
us
the
information
that
we
ask
for,
and
they
do
a
great
job.
They
allow
us
to
come
in
and
complete
our
work
efficiently
and
effectively
and
be
here
today
presenting
to
you
all
so
just
a
big
thank
you
to
Don
and
his
team.
N
So
from
a
financial
statement
standpoint
we
had
no
reported
findings,
so
a
finding
would
be
any
sort
of
issue
in
internal
control.
Any
sort
of
audit
adjustments
that
we've
noted
that
are
material
to
the
financial
statements.
Basically,
anything
that
we
found
would
be
considered
a
finding
within
the
financials.
We
did
make
some
process
Improvement
best
practice
suggestions,
as
we
do
with
any
of
our
audits
that
we've
seen
either
in
other
clients
or
just
things
that
we've
seen
elsewhere,
just
ways
to
improve
and
things
to
think
about.
N
Some
highlights
here
of
the
numbers
within
your
general
fund
and
your
financial
statements.
I
won't
go
through
all
of
these,
but
what
I'll
I'll
point
you
to
this
first
bullet
on
the
Management's
discussion:
analysis,
if
you
read
anything
within
the
akfer,
which
is
the
financial
statement
document,
is
the
Management's
discussion
and
Analysis
and
that's
on
page
7
through
17.
that
provides
that
high
level
context
of
the
operations
of
2022.
What
changed
from
2021
and
also
provides
a
little
bit
of
a
future
economic
outlook
for
what
readers
can
expect
going
forward
as
well?
N
So
that's
really
management
synopsis
of
the
year
and
it's
in
a
much
more
simple
format
than
all
the
detailed
footnotes
and
things
along
those
lines
that
meet
the
standard,
centered
requirements
that
are
a
little
more
detail
and
a
little
more
difficult
to
to
wrap
your
head
around
from
a
numbers
standpoint.
You
know
you
look
at
the
fund
balance,
that's
on
here,
so
total
fund
balance.
It's
the
difference
between
your
assets
and
your
liabilities.
It's
essentially
your
residual
funds
that
are
available
for
future
decisions
and
spending
you
look
at
it.
N
You
have
124
million
dollars
of
fund
balance
within
your
general
fund
and
74.1
million
is
unassigned.
Unassigned
means
it's
not
restricted,
committed
assigned
to
various
purposes.
You
know
call
it
earmarked
or
certain
restrictions
that
are
in
place
by
granting
agencies
or
things
along
those
lines.
So
that's
a
very
healthy
percentage
of
your
total
fund
balance
and
of
your
total
expenditures
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
So
you
all
are,
in
Good,
Financial
shape
there
from
a
single
audit
standpoint,
which
is
the
federal
and
state
Grant
compliance
audit
that
we
do.
N
Now
are
the
two
that
have
come
out
of
some
of
the
coronavirus
pandemic
funds,
the
coronavirus
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
funds
and
the
emergency
rental
assistance
programs
foster
care,
which
is
one
of
your
normal
quote-unquote,
normal
programs
that
you
have
and
will
continue
to
have
once
the
coronavirus
funds
go
away
and
then
the
Medicaid
cluster
from
a
state
program
standpoint,
it
was
the
public
school
building
programs
and
juvenile
crime
prevention,
Council
programs,
so
outside
of
the
pandemic
related
funds.
These
are
all
programs
that
have
been
tested
in
years
past.
N
N
So
from
a
results
standpoint,
our
opinions,
both
on
the
federal
side
and
the
state
side,
were
unmodified
so
again
clean
opinion
on
compliance.
We
did
have
one
finding
that
was
in
the
federal
programs
as
it
related
to
internal
controls.
It's
a
significant
efficiency.
So
when
you
think
of
the
level
of
finding
within
the
financial
statements,
you
have
material
weakness,
which
is
the
highest
level
of
finding
and
then
significant
deficiency.
That
is
it.
There
is
no
lower
than
that.
N
So
when
you
look
at
that
and
have
a
significant
deficiency,
the
wording
sounds
maybe
a
little
more
intense
than
it's
intended,
but
there
is
no
lower
level
of
documented
finding
within
the
compliance
testing
and
when
we
have
a
compliance
item
there
is
no
wiggle
room
in.
Do
we
write
this?
Do
we
make
it
a
verbal
comment?
What's
our
what's
our
end
result
here
we
have
to
put
it
in
writing.
N
So
with
that
said,
I
want
to
give
again
a
big
thanks
to
Don
and
his
team
for
everything
that
they
did
to
help
us
throughout
the
audit
and
thank
everybody
else
at
the
county
that
had
to
field
our
requests
and
field
our
questions
and
have
all
the
conversations
so
pleasure
to
work
with
everyone.
As
always,
and
with
that
said,
I'll
pause
for
for
questions
comments.
Anything
else,
foreign.
B
O
Chris
thanks
again
good
report,
but
I
think
before
I
make
the
motion
that
we
accept
the
report.
We
need
to
thank
our
CFO
Don
Warren,
his
staff
Kessler
internal
audit
and
his
staff,
along
with
our
County
manager
and
all
the
department
heads,
because
this
is
really
a
Hands-On
day,
all
hands
on
deck
process
and
I'd
like
to
say
this
is
a
lot
better.
O
When
I
started
on
the
audit
Committee
in
2017.,
we've
come
a
long
way
and
thanks
to
our
employees,
to
our
staff
for
doing
an
excellent
job
to
get
us
where
we
are
today
and
with
that
said,
I'd
like
to
move
that
we
accept
the
2022
on
second.
O
A
A
P
Good
evening,
chairman
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
present
information
regarding
the
FY
2024
section
5311
Capital
Grant
application.
This
required
public
hearing
as
part
of
our
annual
application
to
the
North
Carolina
Department
of
Transportation,
whereby
we
request
funds
to
support
Capital
needs
for
Buncombe
County's,
Community
transportation
system,
known
as
Mount
Mobility.
P
This
year's
Capital
application
involves
a
request
of
funding,
support
for
Capital
vehicle
and
Equipment
camera
equipment
application.
This
includes
80
federal
funds,
10
percent
State
funding
and
then
a
10
required
local
match.
The
total
application
is
for
just
over
two
million
dollars
at
two
million
eighty,
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
four
dollars.
P
The
purposes
of
the
grant
are
largely
vehicle
replacement.
This
is
a
fairly
large
request
for
us
for
Capital
vehicle
replacement,
and
this
reflects
a
delay
in
vehicle
acquisition.
So
there
were
a
number
of
issues
that
were
imported
in
the
media
kind
of
for
everyone
with
vehicle
acquisition.
So
what
it
really
represents
is
about
two
years
of
vehicle
replacement.
As
we
were
unable
to
complete
a
previous
Grant
award,
we
had
to
release
that
award
and
then
they're
allowing
us
to
reapply
for
that
funding
support.
P
So
it
isn't
a
typically
kind
of
large
request,
but
one
that
the
ncdot
has
vetted.
So
these
include
eight
raised
roof,
Vans,
six
of
which
are
lift
equipped
and
then
eight
light,
Transit
Vehicles,
six
of
which
are
20
foot,
so
smaller
light,
Transit
vehicles
and
then
two
22
foot
Vehicles.
All
of
those
are
proposed
to
have
propane
conversion
kits
installed
and
then
full
camera
system
replacement.
P
A
public
notice
was
provided
in
the
newspaper
as
required
by
the
Grant
application,
and
if
you
recall
in
September
that
this
is
an
atypical
cycle,
the
board
considered
5311
administrative
Grant
application
earlier
in
the
year
in
September,
and
this
is
the
second
piece
of
that.
So
there
was
actually
an
authorizing
resolution
that
occurred
with
that
application,
which
holds
for
this
particular
application.
A
So
here's
my
question:
you
could
probably
guess
it
so
so
the
you
know
the
transit
vehicles.
Of
course
you
know
when
we
look
at
our
vehicle
Fleet
and
the
effort
to
have
the
greenest
vehicle
Fleet.
We
can.
You
know
the
transit
system
has
an
outsized
impact
on
it
right
because
they're
just
they're
big
vehicles
and
they
run
all
the
time
right.
So
so
I
guess
my
question
is
just
you
know:
are
there
were
there
any
in
the
propane
stuff?
I
get
that
that's.
A
You
know
that's
kind
of
an
alternative
fuel
and
that's
got
some
benefits.
Were
there
any
electric
vehicle
technologies
that
were
available
to
that
function,
for
the
purpose
that
these
vehicles
perform.
P
Sure-
and
that
is
a
consideration
that
we
continue
to
make
and
in
fact
you'll
recall,
it
was
I
think
two
cycles
ago
that
we
requested
an
electric
hybrid
vehicle
that
wasn't
actually
being
produced
anymore,
so
we
weren't
able
to
acquire
that
the
vehicles
that
we
are
looking
to
acquire
in
an
electric,
an
electric
version
are
not
yet
available.
So
you're,
seeing
a
lot
of
electrification
of,
for
example,
Ford
Transit
Vans,
which
is
largely
what
we
use
and
Ford
Transit
is
the
name
of
the
vehicle.
Not
what
its
intended
purpose
is.
P
I
mean
we're
seeing
that
really
in
the
delivery
vehicle
side.
So
Ford
has
produced
a
product
at
this
point,
but
it
is
not
a
Transit,
a
traditional
Transit
vehicle.
There
are
certain
companies
that
are
producing
electric
vans
that
could
be
used
potentially
for
Transit,
but
another
barrier
is
federal
testing
of
the
vehicles,
so
Altoona
testing
is
required.
So
there
are
a
number
of
steps
in
order
for
vehicles
to
really
be
available
for
us
to
procure
and
then
put
in
place
for
use
in
the
transit
systems.
P
So
we
would
be
looking
for
federal
government
approval
of
an
electric
vehicle
for
use
in
transit
that
would
meet
our
specifications
and
needs
and
likely.
What
will
there
follow
immediately
or
quickly?
Thereafter
is
a
state
contract
in
order
to
allow
us
to
quickly
and
easily
acquire
those
vehicles?
At
this
point,
neither
of
those
items
have
happened
so
we're
kind
of
awaiting
that
front.
I
will
add
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
discussion
about
that
issue.
P
There
will
be
operational
considerations
and
the
impact
of
that
isn't
fully
known
until
we
know
specifications,
for
example
the
length
of
travel.
You
can
go
on
a
single
charge,
recharge
issues.
So,
as
we
look
at
replacing
with
electric
vehicles,
those
will
be
part
of
the
operational
considerations,
but
certainly
as
soon
as
we
have
specifications,
we
would
be
looking
to
diversify
our
Fleet
further.
O
A
Ones,
but
this
this
this
space
in
between
is
there's
not
a
good
option
on
the
market
right
now,
but
it's
being
looked
at
and
hopefully
there
will
be.
Yes
all
right.
Thank
you.
Any
other
questions,
Commissioners
all
right.
Let's
open
the
public
hearing,
then
on
submitting
the
application
we'll
be
up
at
5,
55
P.M.
A
Do
any
members
of
the
public
have
wished
a
comment
during
the
public
hearing.
A
P.M,
and
is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
do
on
this
item
at
this
time,
Matt.
P
P
A
A
Miss
Pinder
we
come
to
the
county
managers
reports.
Thank.
Q
Dr
Jackson
is
a
native
of
Buncombe
County.
He
grew
up
and
attended
School
in
swananoa.
After
serving
in
the
United
States
Navy.
He
began
his
career
in
education
as
a
student
data
manager
and
summer
custodian,
as
he
worked
his
way
through
AB
Tech
and
Western
Carolina
University
to
earn
his
degree
to
become
a
teacher.
Q
R
Say.
Thank
you.
Yes.
Thank
you
good
evening,
chairman
Newman
Commissioners,
County,
Manager,
Pender
I
can't
put
into
words
how
incredibly
grateful
and
blessed
I
feel
to
have
the
opportunity
to
return
home
to
serve
in
the
school
system
that
I
owe
so
much
to
as
a
parent
of
graduates
of
this
school
system.
As
a
former
student
in
the
school
system
is
someone
who
worked
in
the
school
system,
I
absolutely
feel
indebted
to
Buncombe,
County
schools
and
now
to
have
the
opportunity
to
again
serve
here
is
something
that
I'm
very
grateful
for.
R
I
also
want
to
reflect
to
you
the
words
of
my
predecessor,
Dr
Tony
Baldwin,
as
he
shared
with
me,
the
great
relationship
the
school
system
shares
with
this
board
of
County
Commissioners.
Certainly,
we
recognize
the
tremendous
investment
the
board
of
County
Commissioners,
make
in
our
public
schools
and
Buncombe
County
schools
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
very
much
appreciate
that.
Certainly
I
commit
to
you
to
continue
our
Legacy
of
being
phenomenal
stewards
of
those
resources
that
are
entrusted
to
our
school
system,
as
we
recognize
the
importance
of
serving
our
children
at
this
time.
R
R
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
I
commit
to
you
to
do
our
very
best
for
our
greatest
resource,
the
children
of
Buncombe
County.
Thank
you
so
very
much
and
I
did
want
to
highlight
board
member
Judy
Lewis
who
joined
me
this
evening
at
the
meeting.
I
very
much
appreciate
her
presence
as
well.
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Miss,
County
Manager.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
Dr
Jackson,
we're
we're
all
really
excited
that
you
have
come
back
to
Buncombe
County
and
you
obviously
bring
just
a
wealth
of
experience
to
this
one
of
the
most
important
jobs
in
our
community
heading
up
to
Buncombe,
County,
schools
and
I
know
I
speak
for
the
whole
board
in
expressing
you
know
our
recognition
that
our
work
with
the
school
board
is
one
of
the
most
important
responsibilities
that
we
all
have
as
County
Commissioners
and
we've
had
a
great,
a
great
relationship
with
the
school
board,
as
well
as
with
the
Asheville,
City
schools
and
Tony
Baldwin,
of
course,
did
you
know,
did
such
terrific
work
with
his
communities
for
many
years,
and
so
we're
grateful
for
his
his
service
and
we're
grateful
that
you're
going
to
be
stepping
in
and
look
forward
to
working
with
you
very
much
thank.
A
M
M
So
for
the
referendum
there
was
209
476,
qualified
voters
for
the
thirty
thousand
or
thirty
thousand
30
million
open
space
money.
The
number
of
yes
was
79
365.
The
total
number
of
no
votes
was
35
859
for
the
40
million,
affordable
housing
bonds.
The
number
of
yes
was
71
373
and
the
number
of
no
was
forty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
nine.
A
Just
just
one
one
comment:
I
would
make
on
it.
You
know
you're
getting
lots
of
Praise
this
evening
gone,
and
this
isn't
just
for
you,
but
you
know
I
just
would
say
you
know
from
the
idea
from
the
from
the
time
these
Bond
referendums
were
just
an
idea
to
the
time
that
they
were.
You
know
we,
the
staff,
helped
us
kind
of
get
organized
to
potentially
place
these
on
the
ballot
box.
For
the
voters
to
consider
it
was
a.
A
It
was
not
a
real
long
Runway,
so
I
just
really
want
to
express
appreciation
to
everyone
on
the
county
team
who
helped
who
took
this
idea
and
really
dug
into
it,
figured
out
what
needed
to
be
done
so
that
the
voters
would
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
these
important
Investments.
So
thanks
thanks
for
doing
that.
Obviously
the
voters.
There
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
receptivity
and
support
for
these,
and
also
thanks
to
everyone
who
came
out
and
cast
their
vote.
M
A
All
right,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right
thanks,
Don!
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
a
few
organizational
things
to
look
at.
The
first
is
the
selection
of
the
Vice
chair,
so
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
commissioner
Edwards
for
serving
as
Vice
chair
over
the
last
12
months
and,
of
course,
we
our
practice
is
to
rotate
this
position
annually.
B
A
Thank
you,
Avril,
do
you
have
any?
Is
there
anything
we
need
to
note
on
this.
Q
B
A
S
A
S
A
All
right
that
sounds
that
sounds
good,
so
we'll
plan
on
canceling
the
first
meeting
in
July.
We
will
keep
the
third
meeting
in
December
the
third
Tuesday
in
December
on
the
calendar.
We
oftentimes
delete
it,
but
let's
keep
it
on
there
until
we
get
closer
to
it
and
see
if
we
need
it
or
not.
All
right
sounds
great
all
right.
We
have
a
couple
of
budget
amendments
that
John
Hudson
will
help
us
with
the
first
one
is
for
reissuance
of
the
AAA
716
CDC
covid-19
vaccination
program.
T
The
budget
amendment
for
the
reissurance
of
agreement
addendum
716,
this
budget
amendment
issues
the
remaining
balance
of
agreement
addendum
716
for
the
covid-19
vaccination
program
and
the
amount
of
309
269
dollars.
It
should
have
been
issued
to
us
in
September,
but
the
state
aired
in
the
amount
of
the
addendum
These
funds
will
continue
to
be
spent
on
activities
to
coordinate
and
expand.
Covid-19
vaccination
activities
to
include
Outreach
contract
staff,
advertising
and
supplies,
as
well
as
salaries,
and
can
be
used
until
June
30th
of
2024.
T
A
T
So
this
budget
amendment
the
safer
together
Grant,
has
been
awarded
a
no-cost
extension
to
use
456
100
of
remaining
funds.
This
three-year
Grant
was
set
to
expire
in
September
was
now
received
approval
of
an
extension
and
Amendment
of
the
budget.
This
grant
will
continue
efforts
for
post
overdose
response.
The
original
Grant
was
budgeted
by
ordinance
to
the
line
level,
we're
adjusting
the
expense
expenditure
lines
for
more
flexibility
in
spending
per
Grant
guidelines.
T
So
the
department
of
the
Interior
provides
payment
in
lieu
of
taxes
to
counties
for
tax
exempt
Federal
lands,
for
which
the
county
must
maintain
a
level
of
service.
Buncombe
County
received
93
992
dollars
for
almost
32
000
acres
in
fiscal
year.
22
acknowledging
that
this
program
is
underfunded.
The
federal
government
has
awarded
153
438
dollars
of
arpa
funds
for
local
assistance
and
tribal
consistency.
Funding
to
the
county,
the
use
of
the
funds
is
quite
Broad
and
Buncombe.
County
is
elected
to
utilize.
T
J
A
All
in
favor
say
I
I
in
your
post,
all
right
thanks
John!
Thank
you
all
right,
Commissioners
we've
got
board
appointments
and
some
of
those
are
for
the
community
appointments,
and
then
we
also
have
some
boards
and
commission
items
to
discuss
which
Commissioners
serve
on.
Let's
do
the
community
ones
first.
A
So
the
audit
committee
has
three
vacants
three
appointments
to
be
made.
Is
that
right
and
there's
two
people
who
have
applied?
Yes,.
A
Third
is,
is
the
is
okay,
so
there's
two
citizen
appointments
to
be
made
all
right
and
then
we
have
two
applicants.
A
Correct
did
the
the
note
here
says
the
audit
committee
was
going
to
let
us
know
some
recommendations
did.
A
A
A
All
right
I'll
make
a
motion
to
appoint
Patrick,
Fitzsimmons
and
William
Christie.
Second,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
all
right.
The
Home
and
Community
Care
block
grant
advisory
committee.
There's
three
reappointments:
two
of
them
have
served
beyond
the
policies
term
limits
provision,
but
in
the
past
they've
been
given
extensions
to
that
an
exception
has
been
made
for
these
folks,
so
so
one
option
is
to
is
to
reappoint
all
of
them,
but
I
just
wanted
people
to
be
aware.
This
is
one
where
the
term
limits
provision.
A
So
I'm
I'm,
okay,
with
it
I
guess
what
I'm
getting
around
to
does
anybody
have
any
comments
on
this?
One
I'll
make
a
motion
to
appoint
Daniel
Biermann,
Susan,
shimer
and
Meg
white.
Second,
all
in
favor
say
aye
aye,
any
post,
the
juvenile
crime
prevention
Council
has
one
reappointment
and
Phil
Cooper
is
applying
for
reappointment.
A
We
tried
to
pull
together
a
meeting
to
interview
these
folks,
but
the
window
had
just
sort
of
closed
for
us
to
do
that.
So
we
haven't
done
the
interviews
with
these
folks,
yet
they
need
us
to
appoint
these
folks.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
I,
guess
I'm
just
thinking,
there's
not
really
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
do
this
until
our
first
meeting
in
January
is
the
reality.
A
A
Okay,
obviously
holidays
and
stuff
are
coming
up,
but
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
figure
this
out
like
while
we're
sitting
here,
but
just
hang
on
one
sec.
Let's
look
here
so
the
first
meeting
in
January
is
on
January
the
3rd
that
first
Tuesday
are
there.
We
have
an
affordable
housing
subcommittee
meeting
that
day
and
that's
also
the
day
when
you
have
early
childhood
education
right.
A
There's
four
there's
four
applicants:
one
of
them
is
not
is
specifically
not
recommended
to
serve
based
on
his
application
that
you
know
his
the
comments
he
volunteered
about
his
interest
in
serving
so
we
probably
need
you
know
less
than
an
hour
to
do
this.
So
should
we
look
at
doing
it
before
all
the
meetings
get
started
on
Tuesday,
the
3rd
okay?
Does
that
sound
good
Lamar?
Is
that
sound,
workable.
U
Yes,
that
does
do
you
all
have
a
specific
time
that
y'all
might
want
to
start.
A
U
I
want
to
make
a
consideration.
I
was
going
to
get
to
this,
but
we
also
may
want
to
consider
when
we're
going
to
do
the
interviews
for
the
reparations
commission
and
it
may
not
have
to
happen
the
third
but
I
was
going
to
mention
that
we
have
opened
the
application
process
and
that
ends
this
Friday
the
application
process.
And
as
of
now,
we
only
have
three
applicants:
okay,.
A
U
A
Still,
okay,
it's
kind
of
like
think
about
the
17th
afternoon
for
those
all
right.
Thank
you.
Those
interviews
all
right,
great
all
right.
Those
are
all
the
community
appointments.
So,
let's
now
go
over
the
County
Commission
board
and
commission
appointments.
Where
there's
Commissioners
involved.
Does
everybody
have
a
list?
This
might
not
have
the
list
to
look
at
I
think
we
should
just
walk
through
it,
starting
at
the
top
and.
A
So
what
I
was
going
to
propose
is
that
if
there's
my
hunch
is
that
for
the
vast
majority
of
these
there's
going
to
be
consensus
around
what
to
do
but
I
don't
want
to
you
know
if
there's
not
if
there's
anywhere,
there's
a
question
mark
Or,
maybe
maybe
several
members
want,
are
interested
in
serving
or
there's
a
there's
a
position
and-
and
nobody
has
kind
of
decided
yes
I
want
to
do
that.
So
why
don't
we
just
kind
of
go
through
in
everywhere,
there's
a
consensus?
A
A
All
right
and
I
have
I
have
tried
and
I
know.
I
haven't
I've
tried
to
check
in
with
everyone
to
kind
of
get
a
sense
for
some
things.
People
are
interested
in,
but
some
of
those
have
even
just
been
conversations
this
afternoon.
So
I'll
try
to
share
some
of
the
things
I've
heard,
but
everyone
please
feel
free
to
don't
be
shy.
Raise
your
hand
if
you're
interested
in
doing
something
all
right.
So
the
first
one
is
the
A
B
Tech
joint
advisory
committee,
we're
currently
Al
and
Terry.
A
Why
don't
we?
Why
don't
we
put
a
put
a
little,
let's
hold
off
on
that
one
for
now
we'll
go
through
if
we
get
through
Martin
and
you
feel
like
you
know,
head
like
to
do
another
one
then
that
one's
there,
if
you
feel
like?
Oh
my
gosh
I,
just
like
signed
up
for
ways
more
than
I
thought,
I
was
going
to
then
then
Terry
Terry
can
keep
doing
it.
Okay,
all
right.
A
The
affordable
housing
subcommittee
is
Amanda
Parker
and
myself
haven't
heard
anybody
wanting
to
jump
off
at
the
time
at
this
time
so
and
I
haven't
heard
anybody
else
saying
please
please
put
me
on
that
committee.
So
all
right,
we'll
we'll
say
we're
sticking
with
the
same
group.
A
The
Asheville
Buncombe
Regional
Sports,
commission
Amanda
is
our
liaison
there
and
you
want
to
keep
doing
that
great.
The
audit
committee
Al
Whitesides,
serves
in
Robert
previously
served
a
per
Terry
expressed
interest
in
serving
does
does.
A
All
right
sounds
like
Terry:
Wells
is
going
to
be
our
second
person
on
there,
thanks
for
doing
that,
all
right,
early
childhood
education
and
Development,
Committee,
Jasmine
and
Al
are
both
on
it.
Robert
served
on
it.
I've
heard
Martin
expressed
an
interest
in
serving
on
that
committee.
A
V
A
A
Okay,
it
was
a
double
meeting.
It
was
like
a
back
to
back.
A
Oh
okay,
the
blue,
Horizons
Community
Council
liaison
I'm,
the
liaison
to
that
group
and
I'm
happy
to
continue
doing
that
yeah.
But
if
anybody
else
is
interested
be
happy
to
discuss.
A
A
A
Okay,
Justice
Resource
advisory,
Council
Jasmine,
serving
there.
A
A
Great
and
land
of
Sky
RPO
Tac
board
member
is
Parker.
A
A
The
French,
Broad,
River,
mpo,
Parker
and
I
are
the
two
primary
members
Amanda's
the
alternate
I'm
interested
in
rotating
out
of
that
and
positioned
and
wanted
to
suggest
that
Amanda
rotate
in
that
we
basically
kind
of
Switched
positions
where
she
would
be
the
alternate
and
I'd
be
the
I'll,
be
the
alternate
she'll,
be
the
primary
anyone
else.
A
A
I
haven't
heard
anybody
express
interest
in
this
one.
Thus
far
so
does
anybody
have
an
interest
in
the
MSD.
A
Okay,
great
I
think
you
got
it
Riverfront
Redevelopment,
commission
Parker
has
been
doing
that.
A
A
This
board
recommends
spending
more
money
in
less
time
than
any
other
than
anybody
else
in
Buncombe
County
and
it's
we
have
a
lot
of
real
estate
to
take
care
of
right,
Dr
Jackson.
So
anyway,
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
board
working
with
the
city
and
county
schools.
So
Amanda
thanks
for
for
stepping
up
on
that
one
yep
all
right:
the
tourism
Development
Authority
Robert.
This
is
a
non-voting
position
on
the
board
of
directors.
A
All
right,
excellence
and
lastly,
on
the
list,
is
the
Via
County
Commissioner
Advisory
Board,
my
name
is
listed,
but
the
staff,
the
county
manager,
has
an
up
pointy,
don't
you
that
represents
the
county
at
these
meetings.
There's.
S
A
It
is
it's
great,
okay,
well,
my
name
all
right,
well
great
and
you're
willing
to
keep
doing
that.
I.
A
All
right
Jasmine,
it
is
all
right,
so
we
had
a
couple
of
well
I,
guess
the
one
that
we
didn't
Martin
said
he
was
willing
to
serve
on
the
juvenile
crime,
prevention,
Council
and
then
or
open
to
that,
and
then
the
AB
Tech
joint
advisory
committee.
A
But
I'm
happy
to
serve
but
opportunity.
A
A
All
right
so
I
think
we
I
think
we
I
think
we
have
agreement
on
all
of
them,
so
I
think
we're
good
Lamar.
Did
you
get
all
of
those?
Is
there
any
that
we
need
to
clarify.
A
P
Technically,
my
current
spot
is
just
expired,
or
it's
about
to
expire,
so
I
think
in
the
new
year.
A
Just
rolling
into
the
County
Convention
spot,
as
opposed
to
say,
okay,
makes
sense
all
right
good.
So
do
we
need
to
vote
on
this
I
think
there
was
consensus
that
can
be
reflected
in
the
minutes
around
this.
Is
that
adequate.
U
Yeah
yeah
I'll
be
happy,
I
just
want
to
make
or
just
have
one
discussion
so
with
the
new
individuals
that
have
been
put
in
place.
Are
we
going
to
finish
the
terms
that
these
Commissioners
were
on,
or
are
we
going
to
start
the
reappointment
now,
and
these
are
new
terms,
because
some
of
them
don't
expire
until
a
few
years
from
now,
so
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page.
B
A
Only
thing
is
like
I'm,
just
going
back
in
my
head
around
like
serving
on
the
school
Capital
fund
Commission
some
of
these
boards
I
think
they
they
they.
They
have
concerns
around
every
a
bunch
of
people's
terms
all
coming
up
at
the
same
time.
So
in
some
ways
they
kind
of
were
sort
of
specific
about
setting
up
when
vacancies
would
occur.
U
Yeah,
like,
like
the
audit
committee,
for
instance
Terry
is
commissioner
Wells
has
taken
commissioner
Presley's
position
and
it
expires
in
2025.
that
position.
So
if
I
mean
it
won't,
it
won't
count
as
a
term.
Well,
it
doesn't
matter
about
the
commission
anyway,
but
it
won't
count
as
a
full
term
because
you're
coming
in
in
the
middle
of
the
term.
So
it's,
however,
you
want
to
do
it
to
be
honest
with
you.
A
I
mean
as
a
as
a
as
a
practical
matter
if
we
said
we're
going
to
go
with
the
option
of
they're
going
to
fill
out
the
terms
right
then,
when
their
term
ends,
because
normally
we
do
this
like
every
two
years,
basically
for
most
of
them,
but
if
someone's
term
did
expire,
then
it
would
be
on
our
County
Commission
agenda
to
review
it
as
a
board
appointment.
A
U
Would
if
we
follow
the
expiration
that
is
on
there,
but
if
we
start
it
now
we're
going
to
kind
of
reset
the
clock
with
expiration
dates,
because
they're
going
to
be
that
term
of
whatever
the
term
limit
is
or
the
term
length
is,
if
that
makes
sense,
because
right
now,
because
the
appointment
will
start
today
for
some
of
these
boards,
and
so
we
can
finish
the
term
out
and
then
come
back
to
those
or
if,
if
they're,
let
me,
let
me
say
this:
if
they're
within
a
couple
of
months,
I
won't,
have
us
come
back
and
do
this
they'll.
U
A
Correct
where
it's
a
new
appointment,
correct,
okay
yeah,
that
seems
simplest
all
right
great.
Thank
you
all
right
thanks.
Everyone.
Thanks
for
serving
all
these
different
boards
and
commissions,
we
do
have
some
announcements
and
then
we
do
need
a
closed
session
so
I'll
get
to
that
next.
But
let
me
do
the
announcements
on
December
13th
at
10
A.M,
the
County
Commissioners
will
hold
a
budget
retreat
at
the
East
Asheville
Library
3
Avon
Road
Asheville
nc28805
January
3rd.
At
3
pm.
A
W
Yes,
sir
Mr
chairman
Commissioners,
we
have
two
items.
One
is
two
for
the
commission
to
direct
staff
regarding
the
price
and
other
material
terms
of
a
possible
real
estate
acquisition
and
the
other
is
a
legal
matter
to
discuss
with
attorneys
employed
by
the
county.
So
that's
pursuant
to
143,
318-11,
A5
and
A3,
and
we
just
need
some
direction
from
the.