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Description
Briefing of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on December 5, 2022. The briefing is a chance for Commissioners to review agenda items before the meeting. No motions will take place during the briefing.
A
In
just
a
few
minutes,
but
before
we
begin,
we
would
like
to
welcome
everyone.
Who's
joined
us
for
the
swearing-in
of
three
County
Commissioners.
This
afternoon
we
had
elections
and
three
three
of
the
different
districts
of
Buncombe
County
and
the
elections
that
just
transpired
in
November.
So
we're
going
to
be
swearing
in
existing
Commissioners
current
Commissioners
out
Whitesides
in
Amanda
Edwards
Vice,
chair,
Edwards
and
swearing
in
commissioner
elect
Martin
Moore.
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A
B
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
now
we
will
invite
up
Martin
Moore,
who
will
be
sworn
in
by
retired
Justice,
Timmins
Goodson.
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A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Congratulations
to
all
the
Commissioners
who
were
elected
and
re-elected
in
the
November
elections,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
all
of
you
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask.
If
any
of
you
would
like
to
make
any
comments
before
we
begin
our
briefing
meeting
in
a
few
minutes,
foreign
which
I
know
I
did
not
tell
you
I
would
do
so
sorry
for
putting
you
totally
on
the
spot.
A
See
this
is
what
I
like
we're
going
to
run
very
efficient
meetings
where
there's
not
just
going
on
and
on
so
anyway.
Congratulations
to
all
of
you.
Thank
you
and
I
think
we
are
now
ready
to
begin
our
Regular
briefing
meeting
and,
if
you're
planning
to
stay
that's
great,
but
if
you're
not
that's,
of
course,
fine
too
so
I'll
call
the
briefing
meeting
to
order
Commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
about
any
items
on
the
agenda
for
the
briefing
meeting.
A
All
right,
then
we
will
follow
the
agenda
for
the
briefing
meeting
as
it's
been
published,
and
the
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
presentation
on
Waste
Pro
fee
increases.
E
Good
afternoon
Commissioners,
thank
you
for
having
us.
My
name
is
Cassie
lowmeyer
I'm,
the
recycling
coordinator
with
the
solid
waste
department
and
I,
am
joined
by
the
regional
vice
president
of
Waste
Pro
chip
Jingles.
We
are
co-presenting
today
and
just
providing
you
a
residential
waste
collection,
update
foreign
just
contract
background.
Before
we
get
into
it.
We
Buncombe
County
has
a
exclusive
franchise
agreement
for
residential
waste
collection
with
Waste
Pro
that
started
in
on
January
1st
2020..
It
is
a
five-year
contract
with
a
two
with
two
two
year
extension
options.
E
We
are
currently
about
to
enter
the
fourth
year
of
this
contract.
This
contract
covers
weekly
and
bi-weekly
weekly
trash
pickup
and
bi-weekly
recycling
collection
in
the
unincorporated
areas
of
Buncombe
County.
So
those
are
excluding
the
six
municipalities
a
little
bit
of
cost
background.
E
The
subscriber
fee
at
the
onset
of
the
contract,
so
in
2020
was
1921
a
month
and
the
contract
specifically
stated
that
there
should
that
there
would
be
no
increase
for
the
first
two
years
of
the
contract.
So
in
2022,
the
Waste
Pro
came
with
their
first
consumer
price
increase
adjustment,
which
was
6.9
percent
and
that
increased
the
fee
to
the
current
monthly
fee
of
20.54
cents
per
month
per
subscriber.
E
Now
this
presentation
will
cover
two
cost
increase.
Two
two
cost
increases
today:
one
is
the
annual
consumer
price
increase,
and
that
is
automatic.
This
is
just
a
courtesy
notification
of
increase,
as
outlined
in
the
contract.
The
2023
request
is
7.9
percent,
and
that
is
in
contrast
to
the
2022
increase
of
6.9
percent.
E
So
again,
the
current
rate
is
20
54
per
month.
The
new
rate
with
this
CPI
increase
would
be
2216
per
month,
so
that
is
an
increase
of
1.62
per
month
per
subscriber,
and
this
will
go
into
effect.
January,
1st
2023.
E
The
second
contract
cost
increase
is
a
request
per
the
contract.
The
contractor
must
request
approval
from
the
Board
of
Commissioners.
This
is
for
a
recycling
cost
increase
of
39
cents
per
month
per
subscriber.
E
This
request
for
the
recycling
fee
increase
would
be
effective
on
January
3rd
2023,
pending
a
board
of
commissioner
approval
at
the
January
of
the
first
January
meeting
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
Chip,
he
will
discuss
the
risk
that
the
potential
recycling
increase
more
in
length,
as
well
as
a
general
Waste
Pro
update
in
Buncombe
County.
F
Thank
you
and
I
see
here
they
have
a
little
bit
more
information
about
the
contract.
Current
subscriber
count,
34
900
subscribers,
currently
customer
service.
You
know
we're
we're
always
recruiting
and
that
that
will
always
continue.
I
have
a
saying,
abh
always
be
hiring,
so
we're
always
hiring.
F
You
know
we
have
a
call
center
where
we
take
all
of
the
calls.
Now
that's
been
out
of
Charlotte
we've
been
operating
that
for
several
years
now
it
has
been
very
successful.
We're
able
to
monitor
the
calls
see
how
long
you
know.
Customers
are
on
hold
things
of
that
nature.
So
that's
helped
us
out
tremendously.
F
We
do
utilize
column.
Alls
haven't
had
to
utilize
that
in
a
while,
but
we
do
utilize,
those
in
the
event
that
we
have
route
delays
or
changes
due
to
inclement
weather
things
of
that
nature.
F
Some
of
the
reasons
with
the
CPI
you
know
there
has
been
a
tremendous
increase
in
the
fuel.
One
thing
to
note,
though:
the
CPI,
while
that's
helpful,
it
doesn't
cover
fuel.
The
CPI
mainly
is
for
I
said,
like
the
hard
cost,
like
maintenance
cost
of
goods.
Things
like
that
doesn't
cover
fuel.
A
lot
of
contracts
have
a
fuel
fuel
increase,
separate
to
the
main
number,
because
the
fuel
can
fluctuate
as
well.
F
There
we
go
as
far
as
increases.
We
have
increased
our
payroll
drastically.
Last
year
we
did
an
hourly
increase.
You
see
here.
The
increase
from
last
year
to
this
year
was
17.4
percent
was
a
little
over
20
percent
again
this
year.
You
know
it's
very
tough
Market
to
recruit.
There
are
definitely
labor
shortages,
especially
in
this
area,
but
we're
working
hard
to
overcome
that,
like
I
said
we're
always
recruiting.
We
do
offer
referral
bonus
and
a
sign
on
bonus
to
all
of
the
employees
or
anyone
that
refers
someone
to
us
benefits.
F
We
do
we
actually
bring
in
employees
from
Charlotte
to
help
make
sure
that
the
routes
are
run
on
time
here
in
this
Marketplace,
we
put
them
up
in
hotels.
We
do
all
of
that
when
we
are
short
so
right
now,
we're
currently
short
just
a
few
drivers
would
look
to
get
that
shirt
up
soon.
We
are
adding
new
trucks,
we
added
seven
new
trucks.
Last
year
we
are
going
to
add
two
new
ASL
trucks
this
year,
along
with
what
we
call
a
small
Hino.
F
F
They
have
a
note
how
during
covert
this
is
one
thing
that
we're
very
proud
of
you
know
a
lot
of
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
what's
happened
across
the
state,
but
a
lot
of
the
providers
were
not
able
to
continue
their
service
during
covet,
and
you
know
we're
excited
and
proud
of
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
maintain
our
service
levels
during
that
time.
So
very,
very
proud
of
that.
F
The
CPI
know
that,
like
I
said
that's
not
set
by
us,
but
the
CPI
increase
outlines
the
dollar
amount
here.
Well,
Cassie
went
over
that
earlier,
but
the
fee
is
2054
currently
and
we'll
be
going
up.
Another
7.9
percent
should
it
be
approved,
and
here
you
have
some
information
about
the
premium
service
we
do
still
offer
bear
carts,
seems
to
be
a
hot
commodity.
Now
sometimes
we
have
had
some
delays
with
some
of
the
providers
for
the
bear
cards.
F
You
know
we
we
generally
operate
with
the
lead
time
of
six
to
nine
months
with
bear
car,
so
we
try
to
order
well
in
advance
like
right
now.
I'm
ordering
bear
carts
for
next
year
so
that
we
can
have
them
on
hand
for
the
customers.
Okay
and
with
the
recycling
market
conditions.
I
was
going
through
looking
at
the
numbers,
so
we
locally,
we
utilize,
Kirby
I,
don't
know
if
you're
familiar
with
Kirby,
but
it's
owned
and
operated
by
Barry
Lawson.
F
They
do
a
great
job,
fantastic
job
and
I'm,
happy
to
say
that
you
get
some
of
the
best
rates
I
see
in
the
region.
With
that
being
said,
the
our
rates
have
increased
225
percent
year
over
year,
and
that's
why
we're
asking
for
the
39
Cent
increase.
F
We
did
work
with
the
county
staff
on
that,
because
we
were.
We
came
in
asking
for
a
number
much
more
than
that
that
225
increase
rough
works
out
roughly
to
about
two
dollars
and
35
cents
per
home
is
what
the
increase
in
recycling
Goods
is
actually
costing
us.
So
we're
looking
for
that
39
Cent
to
offset
a
small
portion
of
our
costs
and.
A
For
clarification,
when
you
say
your
costs
have
increased
with
Kirby,
could
you
just
describe
that
a
little
bit
more
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
so
they're
acquiring
the
material
from
Waste
Pro
and
that's
what
they
charge
you
for
the
material?
Yes,.
F
Is
is
almost
Falls
in
line
with
the
disposal
cost
of
the
materials
that
we
pick
up,
we
send
to
Kirby,
we
actually
deliver
them
to
Kirby,
and
you
know,
historically,
you
used
to
get
rebates.
That's
what
we
like
to
see
on
the
Commodities.
The
market
does
not
allow
for
rebates
right
now.
The
cost
is
somewhere
around
forty
four
dollars
44
to
69
dollars
per
ton
is
the
current
rates
that
Kirby
has
now
and
I
can
tell
you
that
that
is
very
competitive
in
other
markets.
F
I
pay
over
a
hundred
dollars
per
ton
for
the
recycling
commodities.
F
A
All
right
right
so
Commissioners
any
questions,
we're
not
voting
on
this
this
evening.
Of
course,
just
this
is
for
information
and
preparation
for
deliberating
on
this.
Soon,
all
right
doesn't
look
like
there's
any
questions
now,
so
thank
you
for
the
information
and
we
look
forward
to
following
up.
Thank
you.
A
G
Philip
Hardin
with
hhas
just
want
to
give
you
a
little
background
about
the
presentation
and
I'll
turn
over
to
Mary
Roderick
from
Lane
to
Scott
Regional
Council,
just
a
reminder
that
the
county
received
a
Community
Development
block,
grant
it's
been
about
15
months
or
so
ago,
and
we're
using
those
dollars
to
provide
a
rental
and
Mortgage
Assistance,
mainly
Mortgage
Assistance,
as
part
of
that
block
grant.
What
the
Department
of
Commerce
there's
some
compliance
documents
that
that
need
to
occur,
and
that's
how
we
got
here
today
with
the
analysis
of
impediments
to
fair
housing.
G
H
H
H
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
talk
you
through
this
I'm,
just
gonna
try
to
touch
on
a
few
key
points
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
a
just
a
brief
overview
of
fair
housing.
So
let
me
Yep
looks
like
y'all
now
have
the
updated
version?
Okay,
so
you
see
on
the
left
that
graphic,
it
says:
fair
housing,
More,
Than,
Just
Words
HUD,
really
expects
jurisdictions
receiving
funding
to
take
what
they
call
meaningful
action
to
address
housing
discrimination.
H
Now
with
that
housing,
Bond
right,
that's
super,
exciting
I
think
you
have
an
opportunity
to
really
support
that.
So
I
feel,
like
the
analysis,
actually
comes
at
a
good
time,
even
though
it
was
really
done
out
of
this
compliance
requirement,
because
you've
received
cdbg
funding
and
you're
over
ten
thousand
as
a
jurisdiction.
It's
supposed
to
be
done
every
five
years,
while
you
have
HUD
funding
and
the
last
one,
which
was
a
regional
AI,
was
actually
done
way
back
in
2012.
So
it's
overdue
and
with
your
cdbgcv
Grant
it
was,
it
was
required.
H
So,
oh
sorry,
it
did
work.
I
want
to
frame
the
context
of
discrimination
a
little
bit
more
in
the
county
on
the
left.
You'll
see
the
seven
protected
houses,
sorry
protected
classes.
These
are
the
federally
protected
classes
and
note
that
income
and
source
of
income
are
not
protected.
H
Some
places
like
city
of
Charlotte
does
protect
that
now
and
States
like
Maryland,
protects
it
along
with
they
have
14
protected
classes,
but
the
minimum
are
these
seven
protected
classes,
and
when
you
hear
about
fair
housing,
complaints,
at
least
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina,
those
are
things
that
have
been.
You
know
in
one
of
these
categories,
so
I
have
two
summaries.
The
top
summary
is
the
five-year
summary
from
2017
to
2022.
H
There
have
been
10
complaints
in
Buncombe
County,
seven
in
Asheville,
one,
each
and
Weaverville
Swannanoa
and
Candler,
and
only
three
cases
were
found
to
have
cause,
so
they
they.
You
know
research
it
and
there's
a
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
the
whole
process,
but
all
of
those
were
related
to
disability.
Now
legal,
the
legal
aid
of
North
Carolina
puts
out
a
fair
housing
report
that
covers,
in
this
case
almost
a
20-year
time
frame,
and
it's
just
complaints.
I
did
see
because
there
was
a
question
about
this
during
the
agenda
review
meeting.
H
If
there
was
any
more
information
and
and
they
really
only
have
the
complaint
information.
So
that's
not.
You
know
what
happened.
What
was
the
outcome
was
the
cause
just
the
number
of
complaints,
and
in
that
report,
Buncombe
County
is
actually
in
the
top
three
counties
based
on
per
capita
for
complaints.
The
state
average
was
at
37.93
Buncombe
County
at
87.3.
Now
you
know
I.
There
is
a
question
of
like
well,
there's
only
been
these
10
in
the
last
five
years.
H
Fair
housing,
legal
aid
noted
that
in
the
last
decade,
fair
housing
complaints
have
gone
down
across
the
board
and
that
might
explain
while
that
last
five
years
you
have
far
fewer
complaints,
but
the
state's
analysis
of
impediment
does
caution
against
just
looking
at
those.
The
number
of
complaints
and
saying
well
we're
doing
great.
H
You
know
they
said
they
really
feel
like
a
lot
of
people,
don't
bring
complaints,
especially
in
a
tight
rental
market,
which
we
have
because
they're
afraid
of
you
know
basically
losing
access
to
their
housing
through
the
land,
making
landlords
angry
so
that
access
to
the
counseling
needed
to
file
the
report.
There
are
a
lot
of
reasons
that
they
list.
So
so
you
know
the
numbers,
don't
look
too
bad
for
Buncombe
County
in
the
last
five
years,
but
there's
a
caution
to
to
not
rely
too
much
on
that
number.
H
But
I
did
want
to
provide
that
information.
Sir,
come
on
okay,
so
the
analysis
of
impediments
overview,
there's
kind
of
these
key
analysis
components.
It's
a
it's
a
larger
document.
I
hope
you've
had
a
chance
to
at
least
kind
of
look
at
the
executive
summary,
but
it
is
available
in
draft
form
and
before
I
submit
it
to
the
state.
Certainly
if
anyone
and
I've
we've
been
doing
some
rounds
with
staff,
of
course,
if
you
all
have
any
comments,
I
will
definitely
incorporate
those
before
I
submit
this
to
the
state.
H
Choice
that's
really
across
and
that's
mainly
around
the
housing
market
and
I'll
go
into
that
a
little
more
detail,
that's
across
the
whole
County
and
then
our
recommendations
are
very
County
specific
right
because
the
county
is
a
jurisdiction
with
you
know,
set
of
tools
for
your
specific
jurisdiction,
especially
around
zoning,
so
that
that
review
of
a
jurisdictions,
regulation
and
administrative
policies
that's
specific
to
Buncombe
County
and,
as
you
know,
the
kind
of
assessment
of
how
those
affect
the
location,
availability
and
accessibility
of
housing.
So
I'm
going
to
get
into
more
detail
on
that.
H
So
going
back
to
those
conditions,
public
and
private.
You
know
there's
only
so
much
that
the
county
can
influence
this,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
have
in
mind
and
I
know
you're,
all
aware
of
it
and
I'm
sure
you've
heard
the
name
Bowen
and
the
Bowen
report,
because
we've
done
a
Four
County
one.
Now
there's
an
18
County
one.
H
H
For
that
I
think
more
interesting
and
more
important
and
and
one
of
the
recommendations
is
related
to
this-
is
the
mortgage
denial
rate
in
Buncombe
County,
that's
1.5
to
2
times
more
likely
for
people
of
color
in
Henderson
County.
It's
actually
1.5
to
3
times
more
likely
so
I'm
going
to
come
back.
H
There
is
a
recommendation
related
to
that
mortgage
denial
rate
in
in
a
way
that
the
county
can
use
resources
to
to
help
shift
the
needle
on
that,
because
people
of
color
are
more
likely
to
be
renters
than
homeowners,
so
kind
of
giving
you
know.
That's
that's
one
protected
class
and
and
giving
people
in
that
background
kind
of
more
access
to
homeownership
is
is
kind
of
the
message,
but
we'll
get
to
the
recommendations
shortly
in
the
in
the
for
sale.
H
Supply
again,
just
briefly
of
only
about
8.3,
total
percent
so
and
the
the
afford,
the
affordable
and
the
workforce
housing
levels.
That's
what's
in
The,
Orange
Box.
You
could
probably
add
that
third
third
level
as
well
depending,
but
you
know,
there's
only
8.3
percent
of
the
market
available.
This
is
a
little
older,
it's
the
2020
Bowen
report
and
then
the
the
Gap,
what
they
project
as
a
need
and
there's
a
range
because
there's
two
different
methodologies
for
projecting
that
anywhere
between
around
1300
and
2300
units
over
the
next
five
years.
H
So
pretty
big
gap,
I've
I've
lumped
those
of
course
affordable
is
one
category
and
Workforce
is
one
category
determine.
Are
there
are
different
income
levels
related
to
both
of
those
I've
just
put
them
together
for
the
sake
of
Simplicity,
but
in
the
document
they're
separated
out
so
I
know.
You
know
that
housing's
tight
here.
H
That's
why
you
did
your
bond
or
I'm
sure
one
of
the
reasons,
but
here
this
just
shows
that
there's
a
hundred
percent,
basically
100
percent
occupancy
rate
in
all
of
the
subsidized
and
tax
credit
housing,
that's
available
in
the
county
or
what
was
surveyed.
That's
not
every
single
unit
and
a
much
larger
Gap
about
3
600
to
5500
in
in
rental
units
that
are
needed,
so
the
bond
couldn't
come
at
a
better
time.
H
So
you
know,
there's
not
a
whole
lot.
Besides
supporting
more
Housing
Development
that
we
can
do
there,
but
as
a
jurisdiction
with
powers
like
zoning,
there's
more,
you
can
do
and
that's
why
I'm
going
to
focus
on
this
a
little
I've
simplified
it
a
bit
more,
and
you
know
this
is
really
a
conversation
that
planning
staff
will
have
in
more
detail
with
you,
especially
in
the
context
of
your
comp
plan.
But
I
do
want
to
touch
on
a
couple
points.
H
You
know
we
found
procedurally
there's
a
potential
to
kind
of
move
the
needle,
because
right
now
anything
over
eight
units
or
four
buildings
requires
a
special
use
permit.
Instead
of
admin
review
simplified
in
Asheville,
it's
49
units
that
can
be
built
without
administrative
review,
for
you
so
or
without
the
special
review,
which
is
a
quasi-judicial
review.
Sorry
I'm
stumbling
over
my
words
by
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
adjust
adjustments
and
that
just
can
increase
basically
the
cost
of
the
development.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
raised.
The
other
is
the
standards.
H
One
is
permitted,
use,
that's
a
touchy
subject:
I
think
the
state
level's
effort
to
redefine
single-family
zoning
as
anything
with
a
household
in
it
simply
put
did
not
go
very
far,
but
it
probably
will
come
back
up
for
Bunker
county
is
doing
well.
You
allow
multi-family
in
a
lot
of
areas,
but
for
base
zoning
districts
do
not,
and
that
is
46
of
all
your
zoned
land
area.
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
more
detail
on
that.
H
I
think
the
lower
hanging
fruit
is
adjusting
minimum
lot
size
and
maximum
density
standards
and
again
it's
all
about
generating
more
missing
middle
housing.
That's
that
graphic
at
the
bottom
and
especially
I'm,
going
to
focus
on
the
smaller
sizes,
the
duplex
and
Triplex,
which
really
fit
in
the
same
format
as
a
single
family
home,
because
sometimes
it's
about
context
really
and
other
times
like
you
know,
Airport
Industrial,
there's
a
good
reason,
probably
to
limit
housing
in
that
that
zone
right.
H
You
don't
want
to
bring
people
to
the
nuisance
and
then
have
them
complain
about
the
nuisance.
That's
definitely
always
a
a
rule.
In
planning
so
very
quickly,
the
scenario
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
is
an
R3
zoning
scenario
that
does
allow
multi-family.
In
this
case
this
is
a
single
family,
detached
house,
the
example
that
we're
using
honest
it
well,
the
minimum
lot
size
is
6
000
square
feet.
This
is
a
little
over
7
500.
H
and
current
zoning
would
allow
the
duplex,
which
you
know,
meets
all
of
the
standards
so
I'm
going
to
move
on
I
just
want
to
kind
of
visual.
You
know,
look
at
the
graphic,
don't
try
to
read
all
these
words,
but
this
is
not
allowed
by
current
zoning.
This
is
a
Triplex,
a
Triplex.
You
have
to
add
another
3600
square
foot
of
of
area
to
your
lot.
Duplex
can
be
built
on
6000,
Triplex
has
to
have
9600
and
the
maximum
density
stancer
standards
also
violated.
H
This
slot
actually
only
supports
two
point:
well,
two
two
units,
but
if
it
went
to
like
14
dwelling
units
per
acre,
you
could
build
this
and
form
wise
and
actually
Scott
did
Park
these.
He
put
the
parking
on
they.
It
meets
all
the
other
requirements
for
setbacks,
parking
Etc.
So
this
is
just
an
example
again
this
this
does
require
a
lot
more
thought
and
and
discussion
and
and
there
will
be
opportunity
to
do
that
within
your
comp
planning
process.
H
So
as
a
summary
in
our
recommendations,
you
know
that
first
impediment
the
inadequate
housing
Supply
that
just
automatically
limits
housing
Choice,
both
in
the
for
sale
and
rental
market
and
and
that
all
that
recommendation
is
really
around
your
zoning
recommendations.
H
So
it's
it's
a
lot
of
words.
I,
don't
want
to
read
them
all,
and
this
is
you
know,
but
but
that's
the
discussion
to
have
with
planning
staff
with
stakeholders
to
say.
If
we
made
these
changes,
would
you
build
more
right,
like
that's
a
conversation
with
developers
too
in
a
market
conversation
and
an
infrastructure?
Conversation
as
as
Nate
raises
a
very
good
point,
so
inadequate
supply
of
accessible
housing
options.
H
Here
you
know
your
lever
is
probably
when
you're,
providing
funding
and
I
know
there
are
some
requirements.
You
know,
funding
through
your
various
resources
like
cdbg
and
home.
Just
to
you
know,
maybe
provide
additional
incentives
for
increasing
the
amount
of
accessible
units
because
there's
definitely
a
deficit
there.
In
terms
of
your
population
profile
and
demographics,
the
lack
of
Housing
Finance
options
to
achieve
home
ownership.
There
are
organizations
like
on
track
that
provide
counseling
the
affordable
housing.
H
Zoning
changes
are
more
challenging
by
by
far
and
that
discrimination
based
on
source
of
rental
income
and
previous
eviction,
history,
you
know,
Thrive
Asheville
has
been
working
with
landlords
in
a
longer
process
and
I'm
honestly,
I'm,
don't
know
that
they've
come
up
with
real
answers.
Yet
in
terms
of
how
to
increase
the
number
of
landlords
participating
in
the
housing
Choice
voucher
program,
there
are
a
lot
of
strings
attached
through
HUD.
There
are
reasons
like
my
house
would
not
have
qualified,
because
I
didn't
have
air
conditioning
right.
H
That's
one
of
the
requirements
you
have
to
provide
air
conditioning
to
the
tenant,
so
it's
not
an
easy
topic.
There's
there's!
Definitely
you
know,
there's
there's
challenges
there.
I
did
mention.
The
city
of
Charlotte
has
passed
that
as
a
as
a
an
ordinance,
the
source
of
income
protection
policy.
If
they
receive
public
subsidies
they
cannot
prevent
people
who
have
vouchers
from
living
in
that
unit.
The
human
relations
Commission
of
Asheville
has
also
already
developed
a
recommendation
to
add
it
to
the
city's
non-discrimination
ordinance.
It's
just
a
recommendation
right
now.
H
It
has
not
been
taken
up
by
Council
yet
so
this
is,
you
know,
kind
of
maybe
keep
your
eyes
peeled
on
that
think
about
it
internally.
For
yourselves,
you
know,
Matt
makes
Matt
cable
from
in
the
housing
department
or
planning
department.
Housing
makes
a
good
point
that
a
lot
of
the
funders
already
require
that
so
maybe
it's
redundant,
but
it's
worth
a
conversation
and
some
places
are
taking
that
more
formal
step.
H
So
you
know
I
think
that's
something
that
could
be
evaluated
by
the
county
and
finally,
there's
just
that.
This
is
a
typical
education
piece:
lack
of
awareness
of
fair
housing
laws,
people
don't
know
what
is
prohibited.
This
is
from
the
County's
website.
H
Matt
said
that
that
information
is
currently
being
overhauled
to
kind
of
provide
more
information
and
make
it
accessible
through
a
lot
of
different
means,
so
so
that's
kind
of
already
on
the
agenda,
but
that
that
is
one
of
the
recommendations,
but
that
I
will
close
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
there's
my
cell
phone
number
and
give
it
out
just
to
anybody.
I
guess
it
is
now
on
like
on
and
my
email,
but
please
feel
free
to
contact
me.
H
If
you
have
questions,
if
you
want
me
to
walk
you
through
anything,
we
should
get
this
submitted
fairly
soon.
They
asked
us
for
all
the
compliance
documents
in
July
and
I'm
like
we're
not
going
to
get
that
done
in
30
days,
I'm.
Sorry,
we
got
everything
else
done
in
30
days,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
in
30
days
so
because
it's
a
longer
process
any
questions
immediately.
J
I
I
have
a
question
and
and
a
comment
that
you
brought
up
the
vouchers
I
believe
that
the
voucher
rates
just
went
up
as
of
this
month,
so
I
think
that
they're
like
for
a
three
bedroom,
that's
an
additional
two
hundred
dollars.
Okay,
it's
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
percent
of
the
fair
market
value,
which
was
a
pretty
significant
increase.
So
maybe
that
will
help
address
some
of
one
of
the
comments
there
that
you
made
that's.
H
Right
and
I
did
actually
I'm
just
seeing
I
did
not
put
it
in
the
presentation
itself,
but
that's
there
was
a
question
about
the
number
of
vouchers
available
the
number
being
turned
back
in
because
they
can't
be
used
and
right
now
and
I.
So
I
edited
the
document
to
add
all
that
information
in,
and
it's
failing
my
memory
right
now,
but
but
yes
in
terms
of
how
much
money
you
get
with
the
voucher.
Yes,
that
does
get
adjusted
over
time
or
Transylvania.
H
J
The
the
question
that
I
have,
let's
see
if
I,
can
articulate
this
there's,
there's
been
some
investigative
reporting
done
not
here
locally,
but
on
a
national
level
and
and
I'm
curious.
If
you're
aware
of
this
or
if
you
see
this
and
it's
around
the
apartment,
rentals
there's
basically
the
to
the
best
that
I
understand.
This
is
basically
they're
setting
rates
they're,
not
setting
it
on
local
kind
of
supply
and
demand
kind
of
issues,
but
they're
using
algorithms
and
it's
a
national,
firm
and
I've.
J
H
Not
based
on
local
market
conditions,
I
believe
that
Sasuke
assassin,
actually
a
geographer,
has
written
about
that
for
a
while,
I
mean
I
read
this
while
I
was
still
in
graduate
school,
these
kind
of
global
City
Markets,
and
it
seems
that
that
Trend,
where
New
York
prices
are
being
set
against
Tokyo's,
right
and
and
it's
not
affordable,
then
to
people
who
are
living
and
working
in
New
York.
Actually,
so
I
could
see
that
being
done
at
a
national
level
as
well.
It
doesn't
surprise
me
I
did
not
look
into
that
for
this
report.
H
E
J
As
well
and
then
part
of
that
speculation
is
with
that,
so
sometimes
it
potentially,
if
they're
doing
this,
it
encourages
the
property
owners
to
potentially
keep
some
units
vacant
because
they're
waiting
on
getting
those
increased
prices.
So
that
is
that
some
of
the
and
I
think
the
I
believe
that
the
Senate
is
wanting
like
the
Federal
Trade
Commission,
to
look
into
it.
So
there's
you
know,
there's
some
of
that.
Going
on
and
I
just
wondered
if
you
knew
if
any
of
that
was
impacting
us
here,
locally
I.
H
Did
not
so
I
you
know
have
basically
I
have
Bowens
analysis
for
how
much
does
do
things
cost
and
and
how
much
is
available
at
what
rate
I
don't
think
he
has
gone
into
kind
of
why
the
market
rate
is
the
rate
it
is.
That
is
a
good
question,
and
not
one
that
I
looked
at
okay.
J
K
J
G
J
J
K
Here's
what
steps
in
conversation
we
need
to
have
to
look
at
protecting
income
and
source
of
income.
That
is
a
clear
issue
here,
and
so
is
that
a
conversation
we
need
to
have
here
before
you
move
forward
in
that?
Well,.
H
We
would
so
that
is
a
recommendation
to
begin
the
conversation.
Okay
and
I
Cassidy
Moore
with
Asheville
area
habitat,
has
a
lot
of
good
Insight
on
this,
and
a
lot
of
good
information.
H
I
think
she'd
be
a
great
resource
in
terms
of
kind
of
discussing
how
to
move
that
forward
and,
like
I
said,
the
there
are
folks
within
the
city
of
Asheville,
who
have
also
started
that
conversation
internally
so
kind
of
connecting
with
them.
Okay,
that
would
make
sense,
but
Maryland,
like
I
said,
protects
at
the
state.
H
Level,
protects
14
classes
and
I,
don't
have
them
all
in
my
head,
but
I
know
that
source
of
income
is
one
of
the
things
and
they've
done
that
for
a
number
of
years
in
North,
Carolina
does
not
have
any
additional
to
the
federal
at
a
state
level
right,
but
there's
also
I,
don't
think
there's
so.
H
Hopefully
it
will,
you
know,
pass
legal
standing
because
we
have
you
know
our
Dylan
law
state.
If
the
general
assembly
doesn't
give
you
the
power,
then
you
can't
do
it,
but
so
far
you
know
I,
don't
it's
pretty
new,
so
I
don't
know
of
any
legal
challenges
yet,
but
that
would
be
something
to
keep
an
eye
on
as.
A
Much
on
that
on
that
on
that
item,
if
I'm
understanding
the
issue
correctly,
one
option
is
for
the
county
to
adopt
a
policy
saying
any
any
organization
or
business
that
gets
County
taxpayer
funding
to
build,
affordable
housing
or
Workforce
housing
must
accept
voucher
recipients.
That's
right
in
probably
the
large
majority
of
them
already
do
that,
but
we
could
make
it
a
hundred
percent.
That's.
H
A
Okay,
but
what
these
other
jurisdictions
Charlotte
or
Mecklenburg,
or
these
others
have
any
of
them
gone
beyond
that
to
say
no,
this
just
must
be
a
policy
economy-wide,
whether
you
get
taxpayer
funding
or
not.
This
is
just
a
requirement
for
doing
you
know
doing
you
can't
discriminate,
nobody
can
discriminate.
I.
H
Would
look
at
so
Charlotte's
is
definitely
for
publicly
funded
if
you've
received
public
funds
to
do
to
to
develop
the
housing,
so
I
would
say
in
North
Carolina
that
hasn't
been
done
yet
I
would
have
to
look
at
state
of
Maryland
to
look
in
more.
Maybe.
A
If
it's
connected
to
taxpayer
funding
right
requirement,
okay,
right
right,
well,
just
curious
and
I
know
it
is.
It
is
a
complicated
program,
so
it's
not
just
sort
of
a.
There
might
be
many
reasons
why
people
choose
not
to
do
it
right,
not
all
nefarious.
It
is
a
complex
bureaucracy.
The
way
we
create
a
lot
of
stuff
in
our
country,
especially
around
things
like
affordable
housing,
right
exactly,
okay,
I'm.
A
A
A
Next
up
is
the
conservation,
easement,
Bond
project
criteria.
L
So
we
currently
already
have
two
existing
advisory
boards
that
are
over
that
are
overseeing
land
conservation
easements
for
Buncombe
County.
So
those
two
boards
already
have
this
approval
process,
but
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
it,
so
that
you
understand
the
criteria
so
the
first
we
have
the
land
conservation,
Advisory
Board,
which
I'll
refer
to
as
lcab
right
now,
the
eligible
funding
recipients
that
work
with
lcab
are
non-profit
land
trusts.
So
these
are
the
organizations
that
could
be
funded
through
this
specific
board.
L
There
are
focused
areas,
focus
on
wildlands
view,
sheds,
Farmland,
Forest,
land,
riparian
and
stream
areas,
as
well
as
some
public
benefit
projects,
so
they
really
have
a
specific
focus
in
those
areas.
So
next
then,
there's
the
AG
Advisory
Board,
the
eligible
funding
recipients
for
this
board
is
the
county-led
Farmland
preservation
program
that
I
and
of
knee
oversee
our
focus
in
on
this
board
is
really
farm
and
Forest
land
projects.
L
So
both
boards
follow
a
very
similar
two-tier
evaluation
system.
First,
we
rank
the
land
using
conservation
criteria
in
with
each
board
having
their
own
ranking
system,
and
then
we
just
determine
the
funding
source
and
the
amount
of
funding
that
each
project
is
eligible.
For,
so
that
funding
can
look
like
Grant
funds
from
state
federal,
other
non-profit
organizations.
It
could
look
like
our
our
annual
budgeted
amount,
that's
in
the
general
fund
and
now
with
access
to
bond
funds.
That
is
an
addition
to
the
the
funding
options.
L
We
have
so
always
we're
encouraging
our
program,
as
well
as
any
of
our
non-profit
Land
Trust
Partners,
to
make
the
most
of
Grant
funds
that
are
out
there.
We
are
trying
to
put
forward
the
best
projects
that
will
get
Grant
funds
so
that
we
can
really
leverage
those
opportunities
to
bring
into
Buncombe
County.
L
L
So
this
is
just
a
kind
of
a
snapshot
at
one
of
the
flowchart
systems
that
we've
created
and
so
you're,
really
mostly
just
seeing
that
it's
a
complex
system
and
it's
been
well
thought
out.
We've
been
look
working
through
over
the
last
six
to
eight
months,
trying
to
hone
in
this
criteria,
so
the
flow
charts
really
organized
in
two
sections.
L
You
have
the
ranking
criteria
at
the
top,
which
would
vary
between
both
boards
and
then
you
have
your
funding
source
and
amount
and
that
entire
system
below
so
first
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
AG
Advisory
Board
project
evaluation
system.
L
This
system
is
broken
really
into
two
parts.
One
focuses
on
the
land
evaluation,
which
is
really
an
analysis
of
the
farm
and
Forest
land
soils
on
the
property,
and
then
we
have
a
site
assessment
which,
as
you
can
see,
factors
in
a
variety
of
different
criteria
that
is
really
specific
to
farm
and
Forest
land
use
and
also
showing
the
different
types
of
potential
of
the
property
and
as
well
as
factoring
in
development
pressure,
that
the
property
is
seeing.
L
So
from
that
part,
the
board
has
ranked
the
specific
project
and
that
criteria,
and
then
we
determine
is
this
project
eligible
to
use
bond
funds.
So
this
is
a
similar
process
to
lcab.
This
is
AG
advisories
and
we
we
make
sure
that
the
property
or
the
project
meets
at
least
two
of
the
following
criteria.
So
AG
advisory
has
worked
over
many
months.
To
try
to.
L
You
know,
make
this
criteria
specific
for
the
types
of
projects
that
you
typically
see
in
Buncombe
County,
and
should
that
project
be
eligible
or
be
meet
at
least
two
of
those
criteria,
then
they
would
be
able
to
move
forward
and
be
eligible
for
bond
funds
of
up
to
50
of
the
easement
value
of
the
property.
L
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
will
get
50
of
the
easement
value.
That
just
means
they
can
request
it,
and
then
we
must
start
the
AG
Advisory
board
approval
process
and
just
like
any
project
that
the
board
starts,
they
have
to
follow
that
same
process
to
be
approved
and
then
once
the
AG
Advisory
Board
approves
it.
It
comes
to
the
commissioners
now
to
move
to
the
lcab
project,
ranking
system,
a
similar
system
where
we
have
two
parts.
The
first
part
really
focuses
on
evaluating
Our,
Land,
Trust
Partners.
L
So
we're
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuing
to
work
with
our
local
land
trusts
and
that
they
have
a
good
track
record
that
there
we're
really
protecting
the
County's
long-term
investment,
they're
they're,
completing
their
projects
and
really
following
through
on
that
promise.
So
that's
that
first,
it's
at
either
a
meets
or
does
not
meet
criteria.
And
then
we
move
to
the
the
second
section,
which
is
really
analyzing
the
conservation
value
of
the
property
so
similar
to
AG
Advisory
Board.
L
You
know
a
variety
of
questions
with
different
amounts
of
points
Associated
to
determine
if
the
project
is
a
quality
project
for
us
to
move
forward
on
very
similar
to
the
AG
Advisory
Board
process,
with
a
variety
slightly
different
questions
based
on
lcab's
Focus
areas.
But
we
need
to
meet
at
least
two
of
these
criterias
for
it
to
be
seen
as
eligible.
They
are
eligible
for
25
to
50
percent
of
that
easement
value
and
then
should
they
be
deemed
eligible.
They
would
then
start
that
same
lcab
approval
process.
L
So
from
here
really
we
have
a
handful
of
next
steps
in
January.
We
hope
to
hold
a
public
input
session
for
the
open
space
Bond
and
have
you
know
a
period
of
time
that
we
would?
We
would
be
able
to
take
public
comment
and
answer
questions.
Should
there
be
any
and
then
we
will
review
the
conservation,
easement
criteria
that
we
talked
about
today
and
bring
that
back
to
a
commissioner
meeting
and
then
in
February.
L
We
hope
to
hold
a
joint
lcab
and
Recreation
services
board
meeting
to
review
the
passive
Recreation
public
input
and
draft
criteria.
There.
Once
that's
been
done,
we
hope
to
have
the
Recreation
services
board
meeting
to
review
Greenways
public
input
and
also
their
draft
criteria,
and
then
we
hope
to
present
draft
passive,
Recreation
and
green
rate
criteria
at
that
next
briefing.
L
And
then
the
hope
is
that
in
March
the
board
will
review
that
passive
Recreation
criteria,
as
well
as
the
greenway
criteria
and
bring
that
to
the
meeting.
L
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
the
criteria
or
the
next
steps
in
this
process?.
J
A
M
Good
afternoon,
Commissioners
is
that
quarterly
time
where
we
talk
about
another
Focus
area
of
the
Strategic
plan,
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
one
of
the
biggest
and
probably
media
Focus
areas
within
the
Strategic
plan,
which
is
our
resident
well-being,
focused
area.
So
I'm
going
to
kick
us
off
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
Tiffany
and
Stoney.
We'll
walk
you
through
each
of
the
goal
areas.
To
give
you
a
little
more
information,
we
do
have
subject
matter
experts
from
every
Department
involved
in
the
Strategic
in
this
Focus
area.
M
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
we
are
hopeful.
We
have
the
right
person
in
the
room
to
answer
those
questions
and
then,
additionally,
if
time
permits
at
the
end,
we
do
have
some
follow-up
information
for
you
on
vibrant
economy.
Responding
to
the
questions
that
you
all
asked
us
back,
I
guess
in
August
now
and
me
and
Tim
love
will
take
team
those
and
get
you
that
information,
so
the
rest
and
well-being.
M
What
we'll
talk
about
is
we'll
talk
about
each
goal,
so
there's
four
goals
within
resident
well-being
we'll
go
through
each
one
of
them
kind
of
talk
about
where
we
are
in
terms
of
measures,
progress,
kind
of
next
steps
and
try
to
give
you
some
context.
I'll
just
say
that
Resident
being
these
are
really
complex
goals
that
we're
dealing
with
for
the
most
part,
with
a
lot
of
complicating
factors.
And
what
we'll
try
to
do
today
is
give
you
that
context
appropriately.
M
So
all
right,
so
you
can
see
generally
green-
is
what
the
not
it's
the
color
we
aspire
to
have.
That
means
we
feel
really
good
about
where
we
are
we're,
making
a
lot
of
progress
towards
our
20
25
goal.
M
Yellow
means
it's
a
little
more
challenging
and
red
means
it's
significantly
challenging
you're,
going
to
see
I
guess
for
the
first
time
since
we've
brought
in
a
focus
area
to
you
in
the
last
several
months,
fair
amount
of
red
and
yellow
on
this
and
Tiffany
and
Stoney
will
go
in
more
detail
about
what
that
is,
and
the
conversation
will
have.
But
you
can
see,
this
is
a
challenging
one.
We
have
11
departmental
business
plan
goals
and
22
initiatives
to
line
up
to
here.
M
I
will
note
that
there
are
a
couple
of
departmental
goals
that
are
not
included
in
that
number.
Just
with
transition
and
leadership
in
some
departments,
we've
been
updating
business
plans,
so
not
everything's
included
in
here,
but
we
are
striving
by
the
next
time
we'll
hear
we'll
have
everything
in
there
for
you,
73
of
our
goals
are
actively
being
measured
and
having
progress
being
made
on
them,
and
38
of
our
active
goals
are
achieving
their
targets
at
this
point.
N
The
first
one
and
our
goal
is
expanding
and
maintaining
cultural
and
recreational
assets,
and
we
have
three
initiatives
in
this
goal.
The
first
one
is
increasing
the
number
of
miles
specifically
looking
at
the
number
of
Greenways
to
be
exact.
Four
miles.
Collaborating
with
the
town
of
Woodfin
supporting
stakeholders
include,
connect,
Buncombe
riverlink
and
the
city's
Asheville,
our
River
Arts
District
transportation,
Park
initiative.
Two
is
looking
at
working
with
community
centers
on
programming
and
Outreach
to
rural
areas
of
County,
as
well
as
communities
of
color
and
initiative.
N
Three
includes
prioritizing
Investments
Based
on
data,
creating
Park
inventory
and
setting
standards
for
amenities,
and
the
picture
you
see
on
this
slide
is
silverlawn
park
that
is
located
in
the
town
of
Woodfin
just
north
of
Asheville.
The
park
encompasses
five
acres
along
the
French
French
Broad
River
and
open
this
past
April.
This
is
the
first
milestone
for
a
major
project
of
the
Woodfin
Greenway,
blueway
and
whitewater
wave
included
in
this
park.
N
Us
is
a
train
station,
a
platform
for
cragy
rail
line,
a
playground,
a
pavilion,
picnic
area,
river
access,
boat,
ramp
and
more
so
like
Sony
excuse
me,
Raphael
said
some
of
the
goals
are
on
red,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
happening
and
we
can
talk
specifically
about
where
we
are
in
terms
of
our
progress.
We
establish
new
performance
measures
with
the
updated
strategic
plan
for
parks
and
recs
that
aligns
with
the
county
strategic
plan
and
the
racial
Equity
action
plan.
N
We've
received
about
11
million
in
Grants
from
tdas
for
the
various
projects
the
Silver
Line
Park
was
completed,
we've
done
initial
inventory
and
assets
of
the
excuse,
me
initial
inventory
of
assets
and
programs
and
started
outreaching
to
community
centers.
Some
of
the
challenges
that
this
has
this
goal
has
faced
is
staffing
issues.
Currently
there
are
three
vacancies:
creating
actual
Matrix
for
data
collection
and
then,
of
course,
the
rising
cost
of
materials.
N
It
makes
it
difficult
to
also
get
a
true
picture
of
the
cost
of
the
projects,
as
inflation
is
rapidly
changing
and
as
you
can
see,
this
goal
is
essentially
below
Target
and
I
will
specify
why,
on
this
community
indicator.
So
if
you
look
at
the
chart
in
FY
21,
there
was
about
12
miles
of
Greenway.
N
So
that's
the
goal
for
parks
and
recs
and
increase
the
number
of
Greenways
I
will
turn
it
over
to
don't
need
to
talk
about
Transportation
goal.
C
Thanks
Tiffany
Commissioners.
This
next
goal
is
about
increasing
our
access
to
public
transportation
as
we
attempt
to
positively
grow
our
ridership,
and
you
can
see
the
initiatives
there
they're
really
about
targeting
eligible
participants
with
geographical
proximity.
So
the
strategy
is
really
about
taking
the
resources
that
we
have
and
that
being
our
drivers
and
our
routes
and
then
increasing
access
that
citizens
would
have
along
those
routes.
C
So
an
example
of
this
might
be
broad
marketing
to
Residents
along
our
Trailblazer
routes,
targeting
communities
like
apartment
complexes
or
senior
housing
that
are
springing
up
along
these
Trail
breads
or
routes
to
see.
If
we
can
increase
router
ships
there
to
older
adults
and
also
those
that
are
living
in
affordable
housing.
C
If
you
look
at
the
next
slide,
this
this
indicator
is
in
the
red.
Unfortunately,
but
a
lot
of
that
we
can
see
is
is
is
because
the
the
landscape
changed
radically
on
us.
Of
course,
when
covet
came
and
we
the
good
news,
is
we
have
seen
growth
from
fiscal
year
21
to
fiscal
year
22,
so
we
had
a
12.8
percent
growth
in
ridership
from
21
to
22
and,
however,
though,
if
you
think
about
that,
ridership
is
still
down.
C
So,
if
you
look
at
the
number
of
people
riding
in
fiscal
year,
22,
that's
only
seven
around
75
of
the
ridership
we
had
pre-pandemic
in
fiscal
year,
19
and
18
respectively,
and
so
what
we're
seeing
like?
Really?
This
is
not
just
a
Buncombe
County
issue.
This
is
obviously
a
national
issue
around
public
transportation,
so
the
transit
industry
is
trying
to
recover
from
from
the
pandemic.
Of
course,
all
of
us
went
home.
C
You
know
for
quite
a
while,
so
we
weren't
traveling
like
we
were
and
then
when
we
did
begin
to
travel
again,
especially
if
you
think
about
the
population
riding
public
transit
telemedicine,
there
was
no
telemedicine
really
to
speak
of
prior
to
the
pandemic.
Now
we
have
folks
that
are
able
to
be
to
see
their
Provider
from
home,
so
maybe
they
don't
need
to
get
on.
The
transit
like
they
did
before.
Also
just
people's
travel
needs
have
changed.
C
More
people
are
working
remotely
they're
able
to
conduct
their
business
remotely
I'll
use
HHS
as
an
example,
pre-pandemic
and
a
lot
of
people
come
to
our
building
to
apply
for
services.
Now,
with
the
waivers
the
federal
waivers
people
can
apply
from
home
without
coming
in,
they
can
do
telephonic
signature
where
they
used
to
had
to
sign.
You
know
in
person,
so
we're
seeing
that
culture
is
changing
and
that's
changing
our
ridership
quite
a
bit
over
when
this
goal
was
certainly
put
into
place.
C
If
we
look
at
the
actual
goals
you
can
see
here,
we
put
the
numbers
over
there
on
the
left,
so
you
can
see
the
actual
numbers
that
we
have
pre-pandemic
and
you
can
see
it
was
Rising.
It
grew.
Rather,
you
know
almost
14
000
people
between
18
and
19,
and
then
we
lost
more
than
that
and
really
what
was
just
the
first
half
year
of
the
pandemic.
C
So
the
next
one
goal
review
eliminate
eliminate
deaths
due
to
substance
use.
It's
also
been
a
difficult
goal
and
the
initiatives
that
you
see
here
really
all
reside
in
HHS
and
when
we
started
this
process
of
these
goals,
a
lot
of
the
work
was
happening
there
through
a
safer
together
grant
that
we
had.
We
happy
to
report
out
in
a
little
bit
just
on
how
this
work
has
grown
across
the
county
and
the
great
work
that's
been
happening.
C
But
if
you
look
at
safer
together
and
specifically
around
things
like
our
syringe
Services
Program,
our
harm
reduction
programs
in
fiscal
year
22,
we
served
2108
persons
through
our
syringe
Exchange
program
and
I'm
also
happy
to
report
that
we
have
a
30
percent
return
rate
on
our
syringes,
which
is
well
above
the
national
average.
So
those
are
just
some
successes
that
we've
had
we've
also
seen
in
state
fiscal
year
22
we
saw
450
reported
reversals
through
distribution,
so
if
you
think
about
it,
that's
450
deaths
that
did
not
occur
due
to
our
naloxone
program.
C
In
terms
of
start,
a
sobriety,
treatment,
recovery
teams,
we've
also
seen
a
lot
of
success
in
this
program.
So
in
fiscal
year,
22
76
of
those
cases
of
children
that
were
in
families
where
there's
coexisting,
substance
use
disorder
as
well
as
child
abuse
and
neglect
involvement.
We
had
76
percent
of
those
children
were
able
to
be
maintained
with
their
parents,
so
they
did
not
enter
foster
care.
The
state
average
is
around
40.
and
then
an
additional
18
percent
of
those
cases
were
closed
with
children
that
were
able
to
go,
live
with
relatives.
C
So,
if
you
think
about
it,
that
was
a
94
percent
family
success
rate,
which
is
almost
unheard
of
in
North
Carolina
or
in
the
country
as
far
as
that
goes,
and
then
we're
really
proud
of
our
residential
substance
use
services.
So
this
is,
we
often
talk
about
recovering
housing,
but
this
is
recovering
housing.
That's
targeted
specifically
for
mothers
with
substance
use
disorders,
so
it
might
allow
their
child
to
stay
in
their
custody
and
live
with
them.
While
the
mother
goes
to
recovery
and
would
prevent
the
child
from
coming
into
foster
care.
C
C
So,
even
with
all
that
success,
here's
the
hard
news
we're
still
in
the
red
and
we'll
get
to
that
in
just
a
minute.
But
I
listed
a
lot
of
this,
but
here's
some
more
progress,
we've
had
here
around
our
harm
reduction.
Syringe
exchange
linkage
to
care
is
actually
supporting
mat
access.
We
are
increasing
our
bipoc
peer
support,
Specialists
through
our
post
overdose
response
teams.
C
So
the
challenge,
you
might
say,
wow
it's
a
lot
of
success
story.
Why
are
we
not
seeing
this
number
go
down,
but
the
challenge
is
the
game
changed
so
like
we're
playing
a
lot
better,
but
the
foe
got
bigger,
and
so,
while
we're
doing
good,
we're
still
not
accomplishing
our
goal
and
the
biggest
probably
the
biggest
Factor
has
just
been
Fentanyl
and
so
much
Fentanyl,
and
it's
not
just
in
opioids
anymore.
C
So
people
are
getting
exposed
to
fentanyl
in
other
substances
now
and
if
you
think
about
most
of
the
work
there,
it's
around
opioid
use
and
really
we
now
have
folks
using
stimulants
who
are
not
realizing
it,
but
getting
getting
fentanyl
at
the
same
time,
which
is
increasing
our
overdose
rate
in
the
county.
Obviously,
the
the
environmental
stressor
social
pressures
coming
out
of
covid
of
suicidal
ideation
is
I,
don't
have
the
data,
but
probably
at
an
all-time
high
and
there's
increases
in
alcohol
use.
Misuse
we're
seeing
this
across
Society
right
coming
out
of
this
thing.
C
Folks
are
really
struggling
and
we're
seeing
that
in
Buncombe
County
as
well.
So
if
you
look
at
our
Trend
rate,
you
can
see
we
want
that
line
going
down.
Unfortunately,
it
did
rise
from
2020
to
2021,
and
these
are
actual
deaths
in
Buncombe
County.
Unfortunately,
and
so
we
had
118
deaths
in
2021
due
to
substance,
use,
disorder
and
overdose
in
Buncombe
County.
If
we
look
at
the
community
indicator
or
the
oh
I
missed
one
yeah,
we
just
want
to
show
this
sort
of
like
trend
lines
compared
to
the
state.
C
So
I
want
you
to
see
what
our
actual
number
was,
because
the
state
data
is
always
number
of
deaths
per
100
000
and
sometimes
that's
a
little
hard
to
do
the
math
if
you're
thinking.
But
if
you
look
again
at
this
trend
line,
you
know
we
were
sort
of
at
the
state
average
or
we
would
dip
below.
Just
a
little
bit
up
and
down
until
you
know,
2016
you
saw
Buncombe
County
really
grow
and
in
2017
is
when
we
had
this
tremendous
spike
in
the
number
of
Overdose
deaths
in
Buncombe,
County
and
I.
C
Wasn't
here
yet,
but
to
this
commission's
credit,
especially
the
ones
who
were
on
it
and
when
I
walked
in
the
door.
We
had
just
completed
a
wide
like
Community
listening
sessions.
That's
when
I
walked
in.
We
just
completed
these
Community
listening
sessions
and
then
in
2018.
If
you
remember,
we
convened
a
big
gathering
over
here
at
the
convention
center.
We
had
so
many
people
show
up
and
we
started
talking
about
what
I
would
call
a
comprehensive
collaborative
approach
to
substance,
use
disorder
and
look
what
happened
in
that
first
year.
C
C
So
that's
not
a
success,
but
the
fact
that
we
were
holding
the
line
showed
the
good
work
that
we
were
doing
and
then,
even
as
it
continued
to
go,
we're
Rising
again,
just
like
the
rest
of
North
Carolina
and
unfortunately,
we
still
outpace
North
Carolina,
so
just
to
recap
some
of
the
things
that
are
that
are
going
on
across
the
county.
Now.
This
is
certainly
larger
than
HHS.
It's
a
pretty
strong
partnership,
that's
forged
among
many
departments
in
the
county
and
in
the
community,
I
must
say
so.
C
We
now
have
two
Community
paramedic
teams
operating
and
we're
we're
out
there.
Taylor's
folks
are
seeing
people
after
they
overdose
and
they're,
offering
them
services
and
they're
asking
them.
Are
they
ready
to
enter
treatment,
they're
able
to
get
them
into
mat
on
the
spot
and
keep
them
connected?
We
have
our
mat
program
in
the
jail.
I
just
applaud
the
sheriff.
He
was
back
there,
but
you
know
not.
C
Many
people
have
this
in
North
Carolina
and
it
makes
a
really
big
difference
because
you
can
start
your
treatment
there
and
then
I'll
applaud
Tiffany
and
her
group,
and
then
we
have
linkages
to
care
or
re-entry
programs
where
we
can
make
sure
you
continue
that
treatment
when
you
leave
the
Detention
Facility
the
strategic
planning
process
for
the
Oak
Grove
settlement
funding.
To
me
this
is
a
Game
Changer
and
Buncombe.
C
County
was,
of
course,
at
the
Forefront
of
that
effort
as
well,
but
it's
really
more
than
the
money
I
sit
in
on
all
these
planning
sessions
and
I'm
really
excited
about
the
money.
It's
more
than
money,
like
we're
sitting
with
people
from
the
community
who
have
lived
experience
in
substance,
use
disorder
either
as
a
parent
or
for
themselves.
C
We
have
people
in
recovery,
we
have
providers,
it's
fascinating,
where
this
is
going
and
I
really
can't
wait
for
you
to
see
the
final
plan
that
will
come
out
of
this,
because
it's
very
Community
Driven
and
it's
really
been
exciting.
For
me,
we
have
the
Behavioral,
Health
and
Justice
collaborative
again
what
a
fascinating
approach
to
look
at
those
two
issues
together
how
Behavioral,
Health
and
Justice
involvement
intersect.
C
We
mentioned
the
substance,
use
disorder,
child
file,
treatment,
work
that
we
have
going
on
and
through
arpa
dollars.
Again,
thanks
to
you,
we
were
able
to
stand
up
our
Behavioral
Health
Urgent
Care
again,
so
that
it
could
serve
more
hours
and
be
available
as
a
resource
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
our
re-entry
teams,
our
diversion
programs
treatment
courts.
It's
really
exciting
to
know
what
we're
doing
and
our
hope
is
obviously
to
move
this
trigger
out
of
the
red
just
as
soon
as
possible,
all
right
back
to
Tiffany.
I
Sorry
Stoney
I
was
gonna.
Ask
you
a
question
real
fast,
while
you're
still
there
about
your
slide
13
with
the
line
graph,
the
the
tragic
one
about
deaths
in
Logan,
County,
yeah,
I,
didn't
know
if
the
be
really
interesting
to
see
if
the
data
exists
and
would
be
therefore
possible
to
see
that
Trend
over
time
with
the
change
in
substances
that
are
being
used
by
or
the
the
majority
of
substance
out
and
out
in
the
like.
M
Okay:
okay,
we'll
look
into
it,
we're
not
sure
but
we'll
we'll
come
back
and
give
you
an
answer:
either
we
can
do
it
and
we'll
give
it
to
you
or
yeah.
We
can
do
it
so
we'll
follow
up
with
you.
Thank
you.
N
So
this
is
actually
a
good
segue
into
the
last
goal
and
that's
reducing
our
jail
population
to
enhancing
Public
Safety
in
partnership
with
the
ID
Bureau
and
Justice
Services.
We
have
three
initiatives
that
we're
going
to
discuss
with
you
today.
N
The
first
one
is
to
reduce
the
number
of
unserved
processes
in
the
warrant
repository,
and
what
this
does
is
reduces
the
chance
that
someone
will
be
arrested
due
to
a
process
that
was
dismissed
or
disposed
of
by
the
courts
so
making
sure
that
there
are
no
outstanding
warrants
in
our
repository
to
ensure
that
folks
aren't
getting
getting
picked
up
when
they
should
not
be.
N
N
Mainly
these
goals
are
on
target
for
doing
what
we
set
out
to
do
and
again
that's
the
process
of
reducing
the
number
of
unserved
warrants.
In
the
repository
we
are
on
progress
to
look
at
increasing
our
community
safety
and
accountability
for
those
to
do
harm
initiative,
as
well
as
creating
alternative
Pathways
for
people
moving
through
the
justice
system.
N
We've
had
seen
some
challenges
in
this
goal:
the
state
launched
and
ewarn
and
e-course
implementation,
and
that's
impacting
our
local
systems
as
the
datas
don't
necessarily
talk
to
each
other,
as
well
as
just
issues
with
the
launch
of
aoc's
e-warrant
system.
N
It's
not
really
conducive
to
North,
Carolina's,
Court
processes
and
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
issues
in
just
Court
data
and
General,
and
then
we've
also
seen
the
jail
population
returns
a
pre-pandemic
levels
and
that
is
driven
by
the
number
of
people
being
picked
up
or
being
put
in
custody
for
failure
to
appears
and
the
length
of
time
that
people
are
staying
in
our
Detention
Facility.
N
So
specifically,
this
slide
just
shows
you
the
jail
population
average.
By
month
in
2019
we
were
hovering
around
450
and
then,
of
course,
the
pandemic
happened,
and
we
saw
a
large
release
of
people
out
of
our
jail,
mostly
related
to
like
those
low-level
offenses
misdemeanors
and
looking
at
people's
ability
to
pay
bail
incentively.
Over
time
we
have
went
back
to
some
of
our
old
or
the
courts.
I
should
say,
have
went
back
to
their
pre-pandemic
processes,
and
so
we've
seen
a
increase
in
our
jail
population
over
time.
N
Foreign
s
that
necessarily
the
county
or
our
partners
can
work
towards.
We
kind
of
change
the
community
indicators
to
look
at
people
that
are
returning
to
incarceration
or
jail
based
on
a
new,
violent
charge
or
returning
from
failure
to
appear,
and
so
when
we
look
at
2019,
the
failure
to
appear
is
the
orange
line.
At
about
14.6
percent.
N
We
saw
a
drastic
reduction,
but
we're
seeing
an
increase
and
again
people
being
brought
into
custody
because
they
didn't
show
up
for
court,
and
there
was
a
warrant
issue
for
their
arrest
when
it
comes
to
looking
at
people
returning
to
custody
for
new
violent
charge.
That
is
staying,
kind
of
consistent
or
a
little
bit
lower
or
less
than
it
was
in
2019..
N
So
we
are
trying
to
make
efforts
on
addressing
failure
to
appears
we're
launching
a
court
Navigator
program
using
safety
and
Justice
challenge
funds
where
there
will
be
a
peer
or
someone
for
the
Community
Helping
assist
people
register
for
a
court
notification
system
and
working
with
those
that
come
into
the
courthouse,
understanding
the
court
processes
and
ensuring
that
they're
aware
of
the
consequences
for
not
showing
up
for
court.
N
We
are
developing
and
promoting
a
court
notification
system
using
aoc's
core
minor
system,
but
also
partnering
with
the
code
of
Asheville,
who
created
a
local
locally
sourced
database
for
people
to
sign
up
and
get
reminders
as
well.
The
District
Attorney's
office
and
the
public
defender's
office
have
established
a
jail
review
team,
so
they're,
specifically
staff
that
are
looking
at
the
population
in
jail
and
determining
ways
to
dispose
of
the
cases
or
see
if
they
can
get
people
out
of
custody
faster.
N
And
then
we
have
been
constantly
evaluating
or
working
with
Community
to
identify
root
causes
and
try
to
inform
that.
How
we
do
business
in
the
future.
N
The
Emergency
Services
have
established
Peak
trucks
to
address
the
call
response
time
there's
been
a
lot
of
Opera
Investments,
including
the
Opera
funding
for
the
community
safety
violence
prevention,
work
where
we're
on
our
way
to
releasing
an
RFP
to
get
a
community-based
organization
to
begin
the
violent
Interruption
program
in
our
communities,
creating
a
community
paramedic
Outreach
team
working
with
our
local
Child
Advocacy
Center
to
ensure
that
children
are
getting
the
right
Services
when
it
comes
to
trauma
and
then
ensuring
that
those
who
are
survivors
of
domestic
violence,
intimate
partner
violence,
sexual
assault,
child
to
elder
abuse,
have
access
to
continued
Services
after
the
Voca
federal
funds
were
cut
significantly.
N
So
those
are
all
our
efforts
for
enhancing
Public
Safety
and
in
overall,
some
of
the
summary
and
key
takeaways
and
I'll
do
a
minute
to
pause
for
the
last
goal.
If
there
was
any
specific
questions
before
I
review,
the
overall
resident
well-being.
B
A
quick
kind
of
big
picture
question
around
both
Public
Safety
and
then
the
overdose
related
goals.
B
Is
it
staff
sense
that
if
these
were
more
resourced,
we
would
be
closer
to
green
or
in
the
green?
Or
is
it
staff
sense
that
these
are
truly
complex
problems
where
the
county
is
sort
of
one
actor?
Among
many,
we
are
doing
really
Innovative
interventions,
but
we're
just
not
able
to
keep
pace
with
with
with
these
issues.
N
From
a
staff
perspective,
I
think
it's
both
A
and
B
I
think
these
goals
are
kind
of
realizing
that
it's
a
marathon
or
it's
not
a
Sprint
or
maybe
even
a
relay
right.
These
are
real
large
community
issues
and
we're
building
capacity
as
we
get
resources.
It's
about
staff
and
Community
capacity
as
well.
Sony
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
to
about
that.
M
B
I
guess,
as
we
move
forward
in
these
conversations,
not
just
about
Resident
well-being,
I'd,
be
interested
in
us.
Having
really
Frank
candid
discussions
about
the
resources
side
of
the
house,
I
think
in
some
areas
we
have
those
conversations,
it's
going
to
cost
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
to
do
X,
Y
or
Z
in
our
community,
and
we
need
to
fund
it
this
way
through
a
bond
or
debt
financing.
I
think
in
some
other
areas
we
tend
to
approach
it
sort
of
from
the
other
side
of
the
house.
B
So
as
we
move
forward
in
these
conversations,
I
would
just
be
very
interested
in
hearing
assessments
about
that
not
saying
we'll
move
forward,
but
so
we
can
have
the
information
available
to
us,
particularly
if
there
are
interventions
that
seem
to
be
having
an
outsized
impact
in
some
of
these
areas
and
we're
seeing
that,
for
instance,
at
the
pilot
level
with
limited
scope,
because
it's
a
pilot
but
I'd
like
us
to
be
able
to
sort
of
think
in
bigger,
broader
brush
Strokes
about
how
we
move
the
needles
in
some
of
these
areas,
where
we
know
the
issues
not
going
away,
we
know
the
County's
doing
significant
and
impactful
work,
but
not
a
scale
enough
to
keep
to
keep
pace.
B
So
this
is
very,
very
helpful.
I
think
we've
got
it.
You
know.
We've
got
to
just
always
look
honestly
at
what
the
data
is
telling
us,
but
I
also
hope
we
can
kind
of
broaden
the
field
we're
playing
on
in
a
sense
as
we're
thinking
about.
What's
going
to
actually
work
in
some
of
these
issues,.
A
One
other
data
pointed
interested
in
whether
we
have
this
information
or
if
it's
something
that
could
be
looked
at,
so
the
the
information
that
we've
looked
at
on
these
slides
on
the
opioid
piece
and
overdose
and
overdoses
is
tracking.
You
know
how
many
people
have
died
this
year.
What's
the
trend
lines
over
a
number
of
years?
Do
we
have
information
as
a
community?
A
N
Can
find
another
data
point
I
think
we
talked
about
that
at
our
group
too,
like
we're
showing
you
one
piece
of
I,
guess
opioid
use
and
that's
deaths,
but
we
can
look
at
how
many
visits
are
in
the
emergency
room,
who's
in
treatment.
I.
Think
that
is
a
conversation
we
can
get
data
back
to
you.
It
might
not
be
the
entirety
of
the
community
and
population,
but
it
is
some
additional
data.
A
I
would
I
would
be
I
would
be
interested
in
that
I
mean
of
course,
I.
Think
looking
at
the
mortality
numbers
is,
you
know,
is
obviously
is
an
important
metric
to
to
track
when
someone's
actually
lost
their
life.
As
a
result
of
this,
you
know,
but
these
are
such
big
numbers.
You
know
that
if
this
many
people
are
literally
losing
their
lives,
then
like
how
like
how
many
people
are
are
be
whose
our
lives
are
being
directly
impacted
because
they
have,
you
know,
developed
an
addiction
and
are
struggling
with
it.
A
Just
to
be
information,
I'd
be
interested
in
learning
more
about,
and-
and
maybe
we
need
to-
you
know-
think
about
that
metric
too,
like
how
do
we,
you
know
how
do
we
over
and
again
these
are
long-term
efforts
right,
not
overnight,
but
like
what
what
can
be
done
to
just
bend
that
needle
down
as
well,
because
even
for
a
lot
of
folks,
of
course,
don't
ultimately
have
a
fatal
overdose.
It's
just
like
so
severely
impacting
so
many
people's
lives.
D
And
I'll
be
kind
of
kind
of
on
that
point.
I
I,
don't
even
know
how
much
the
data
that
you
would
get
could
really
indicate
for
folks
who
don't
who
aren't
at
a
crisis
point
where
they're
using
substances
inappropriately
but
still
find
themselves
not
going
to
any
r,
that's
just
kind
of
two
years
down
the
road
kind
of
thinking
so
I
think
to
Jasmine's
point
about
piloting
and
being
very
careful
about
year
by
year.
Solutions
that
that's
definitely
something
that
we
should
look
at
with.
N
D
N
You
can
definitely
add
that
to
our
list
bring
back
and
I
think
there's
one
more
slide
too,
as
well
and
recap
and
kind
of
answer.
Some
of
the
of
the
questions
we
had,
commissioner
Bushfire
about
what
we're
seeing
is
Staff
waiting
for
the
clicker
to
move
so
and
our
Focus
area
progress,
we've
established
new
departmental
goals
and
try
to
establish
an
equitable
approach.
So
we
have
been
looking
at
redefining
our
business
plan,
especially
in
the
year
two
of
our
strategic
plan
and
having
new
leadership.
N
As
you
know,
the
demand
for
transportation
has
changed
because
of
covet
and
so
running
to
return
back
to
pre-pandemic
levels
and
then
expanding
as
well.
The
expanded
access
to
services
for
substance,
use
and
individuals
impacted
by
the
justice
system
I
want
to
focus
our
attention
and
look
at
how
do
we
reduce
people
being
booked
into
custody
for
failure?
To
appears
I
mean
there
are
also
multiple
strategies
and
investment
underway
to
enhance
Public
Safety.
N
Some
of
the
challenge
we're
seeing
is:
why
are
we
kind
of
in
the
red
and
not
green,
the
demand
for
services
or
the
changes
in
Services
because
of
the
pandemic?
The
staffing
and
supply
chain
issues-
The
increased,
Behavioral
Health
needs
due
to
higher
Acuity,
higher
lethality
and
availability
of
Fentanyl,
and
just
really
the
behavioral
health
Trends
because
of
the
isolation
and
impacts
of
pandemic,
and
then
I
think
this
sums
it
up.
Well
we're
also
not
the
sole
entity
for
impacting
these
goals.
N
We
are
looking
at
the
capacity
or
the
resources
our
recovery,
Community
has,
or
the
medical
community
our
court
partners
and
how
they
process
cases
or
the
data
that
we
have
access
to
to
dispose
of
warrants,
and
so
we
are
continuously
partnering
with
our
Community
Partners
to
address
these
goals,
but
we
don't
have
necessarily
control
over
the
outcomes
of
some
of
the
goals
that
we
are
aggressively
trying
to
achieve.
So
the
final.
A
All
right,
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation,
the
updates,
any
anything
else
on
this
item.
M
We're
gonna:
do
we
have
a
couple
of
slides
to
follow
up
on
fiber
and
economy?
Okay,
we
presented
back
in
August
I'll
run
through
them,
but
Tim
love
is
here
as
well
and
Tim
is
our
subject
matter
expert.
So
you
can
answer
oops.
M
M
M
F
M
It
sounds
like
we
are
going
to
wait
till
the
next
meeting
and
we'll
bring
back
vibrant
economy
to
you
all
we'll
also
keep
working
on
the
follow-up
for
you
on
rest
MLB.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
commissioner,
says
everyone:
that's
everything
that
was
on
our
briefing
agenda.
So
let's
adjourn
and
we
will
reconvene
at
five
o'clock
for
the
regular
meeting.