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From YouTube: Commissioners' Budget Retreat (May 10, 2022)
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A
Let's
just
take
a
quick
look
at
the
agenda,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
review
of
the
fire
district
taxes
and
get
an
update
on
budgetary
changes
since
the
426th
work
session
was
held,
and
then
we're
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
our
time
today,
looking
at
proposed
budgets
from
the
public
school
community
college
and
then
have
some
additional
discussion
about
budget
priorities
before
we
wrap
up
and
there's
one
other
item
we
need
to
add
to
the
agenda,
which
is
john
warren,
will
provide
some
additional
information
on
it's
a
letter
that
we
need
to
send
to
the
local
government
commission.
A
And
we'll
add
that
at
the
end,
all
right
so
don
you
want
to
come
on
we'll,
go
ahead
and
talk
to
us
about
the
letter
that
needs
to
be.
A
A
A
To
prevent
recurrence
of
late
filing
the
county
will
instruct
the
auditors
to
move
forward
issuing
an
opinion,
even
if
the
guidance
has
not
been
released.
If
there's
a
need
to
reissue
due.
A
G
A
Okay,
is
there
a
motion
to
improve
sending
the
letter
that
finance
director
john
ward,
just
described.
A
B
B
I
A
A
A
A
A
H
G
H
That
we're
asking
for
is
a
half
percent
increase.
What
that
money
will
go
toward
is
for
the
cost
of
living
wages
for
our
firefighters
right
now,
starting
at
skyland
fire
department.
Somebody
walking
through
the
door
is
10.91
is
what
we
pay.
H
The
board
has
recognized
that
the
inflations
of
this
year
unforeseen
inflation,
that
we
need
to
increase
that
cost
of
living.
We
are
getting
a
increase,
as
you
see,
right
there,
but
it
doesn't
meet
the
goals
of
our
board
of
directors.
H
They're
wanting
to
go
to
a
14,
an
hour
start
out
pay
which
is
not
the
15.
it's
a
little
lower,
but
they
think
they
can
in
the
future,
meet
that
goal
with
increases
in
the
budget,
but
that
that's
where
that
gap
is
we're
going
to
put
the
money
extra
money
that
we're
receiving
this
year
toward
the
cost
of
living.
But
it's
not
beating
the
needs
of
what
the
board
wanted
to
14
an
hour.
It.
H
Is
a
lot
of
our
money
is:
is
tied
up
in
restricted
pots,
restricted
funds
being
likely
to
claim
some
for
you
restricted
station
capital?
What
that
is,
is
we
put
money
back
each
year?
So
much
goes
in
this
capital
to
meet
our
cips.
I
used
to
premiere
with
cips
that
will
go
toward
a
new
station
in
the
future.
We're
looking
at
trying
to
get
another
station
in
the
bent
creek
area
to
meet
the
growth
and
the
response
times.
H
Restricted
account
that
we
have
is
our
vehicle
and
equipment.
What
that
is
we
put
money
in
this
cip
or
the
restricted
fund
for
the
cip
for
apparatus
we
just
now
purchased
in
october,
an
engine
and
a
ladder
truck,
as
you
know
how
much
the
engine
costs.
I
don't
know
if
you
know
inches
about
750
thousand
dollars
1.5
we
put
this
money
in
there,
so
we
can
put
a
large
down
payment
and
offset
it
so
that
we
do.
H
The
taxpayers
did
not
see
any
burden
or
increase
when
we
have
to
purchase
apparatus,
and
we
have
a
replacement
plan
for
engines
for
three
four
to
five
years.
Every
45
years
we
try
to
rotate
our
engines
and
purchase
another
one,
making
our
oldest
truck
20
years
old.
Another
restricted
fund
is
our
retirement
insurance.
This
is
where
we
put
money
into
an
area
when
somebody
retires,
but
the
fire
department
covers
that
health
insurance
until
they
get
65.,
that's
a
huge
benefit
for
our
employees.
They
started
that
years
ago.
We
want
to
continue
this.
H
We
have
to
put
money
in
that
too,
to
meet
the
actuarials
for
that
another
one
is
high
reserve
funds.
The
board
tries
to
keep
at
least
20
percent
in
reserve
funds,
for
you
know
like
county.
Does
here,
I
think,
is
through
12
percent
of
the
state.
So
this
is
where
this
money
is
going.
That's
that's
what
shows.
H
Yes,
we
are
financially
healthy,
but
the
monies
are
tied
up
in
restricted
funds
for
for
future
projects
for
our
cip,
but
all
the
money
that
we're
requesting
right
here
this
year.
Our
focus
and
goal
is
for
the
board
is
for
cost
the
cost
of
living
wages,
kind
of
doing
the
math.
Somebody
asked
one
time
before:
how
much
is
that
going
to
cost
for
each
residence
we
figured
out
by
average
about
25
per
household,
which
is
six
cents
a
day,
40
cents
a
week
and
a
dollar
80
a
month?
H
A
Could
you
just
tell
us
what
you're,
seeing
in
terms
of
recruitment
efforts
and
just
what
that
dynamic
is
like
recruiting.
H
As
you
know,
right
now,
a
lot
of
fire
fire
departments
are
starting
at
15
an
hour,
and
I
mean,
if
you
come
to
the
fire
department,
skyline
right
now
and
say
we're
going
to
start
you
at
1091
and
the
fire
department.
H
Next
door
is
doing
15,
which
one
would
you
go
to
so
we're
trying
to
battle
that
recruitment
effort
right
now
and
push
that
up
to
help
with
that
and
also
retention
and
this
money
right
here
with
this
with
this
increase,
something
I
forgot
to
tell
you
is
this
also
helps
with
the
decompression
of
the
current
people
with
this
own
shift,
because
the
morale
issue
will
have
one
thing
right.
There
is,
you
know
with
with
the
morale.
G
H
Looked
in
it,
susan
latke
said
it
best
with
the
terms
on
an
article
that
she
has
says
paid
comprehension
can
cause
morale
problems
and
hamper
retention
unless
and
employers
remain
on
guard.
So
that's
why
we
try
to
do
that
also
decompression.
I
know
you've
done
that
too,
as
well
in
this
county.
Can
I.
G
A
You
mentioned
the
goal
of
your
board
is
to
get
the
fourteen
dollars
an
hour
for
starting
staff.
Is
that
what
the
10.3.
H
A
H
Here,
9.8,
I
know
we're
getting
an
increase
instead
of
being
14
an
hour,
probably
like
12,
and
some
change
yeah
about
12
and
13
12
hours
of
change.
I'd
have
to
look
into
it,
but
it
wouldn't
mean
it
would
not
meet
the
goal
of
the
board
and
that's
one
thing
right
there.
If
you,
if
you
look
in
the
past,
you
usually
don't
see
skyline
of
your
asset
for
money.
We
haven't
asked
for
money
since
I
think
2013..
I
think
we
got
an
increase
when
the
the
board
here
was.
H
Very
gracious
gave
everybody
a
one
cent
on
that
pay
study,
but
the
last
year
you
noticed
also,
I
think
where
was
one
of
the
only
fire
departments
didn't
ask
for
any
increase.
We
actually
went
revenue
neutral,
went
down
so
the
10.3
that's
close
to
almost
where
we
was
at
last
year,
but
we.
H
B
H
More
revenue
than
expenditures,
what
that's
that
revenue
shows
right
there
we
take
that
revenue
and
we
move
it
over
to
our
cip,
try
to
budget
money
into
our
cip
and
our
accountant
that
does
that
he
waits
till
the
budget
year
is
closed
out.
I
don't
know
why
he
just
lose
it.
A
Beneath
the
major
capital
project,
what's
the
percentage
that
you
like
to
pay
in
cash
and
then
I
assume
you
finance
a
lot
of
it
too?
What's
the
is
there
what's
the
formula
that
typically
take
on
larger
capital
projects
around
what
you
want
to
save
up
for
pay
down,
good
finance.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
right
there,
because
it's
one
thing.
We
we
talked
to
the
the
finance
several
years
ago
because
we
was
wanting
to
put
money
down
a
large
amount,
and
so
our
our
payments
is
lower.
H
But
with
the
county
finance
says
no,
you
need
to
try
to
keep
as
much
money
in
the
bank
make
a
lower
payment,
so
we
went
with
their
their
requisition
and
I
guess
keep
the
money
in
the
bank
case
and
if
something
happens,
that
you
can
always
use
that
money
and
also
gain
interest,
so
the
percent
percentage
we
try
to
do.
We
would
like
to
do
it
like
20
30
percent
down
on
this
of
a
project.
H
Does
that
make
sense
so
20
percent
down
and
then
finance
the
rest
is
and
that's
what
the
county
suggested
is
try
to
keep
as
much
money
in
the
bank
and
we
could,
for
example,
this
past
year
we
could
put
money
down
and
maybe
purchase
all
purchase
they
apparatus.
We
want
to
try
to
keep
as
much
money,
but
that's
I
guess
it
looks
like
we're
very
healthy,
but
this
money
stays
there
for
that.
H
H
Cip
money
as
again
pulling
cip
money
and
use
it
for
salaries
because,
as
you
know,
cip
money
is
like
a
one-time
purchase
and
if
I
purchase
this
water
bottle,
I
think
it
might
move
it.
Salaries
is
a
continuous
growing.
You
know
a
thing:
it's
just
it's
not
something
that
you
can
rely
on.
It's
not
cfp
money
that
makes
sense
as
salaries
get
bigger
and
bigger.
It's
constant
stays.
A
B
The
chief
mentioned
in
these
conversations
too,
that
you
have
several
reserve
accounts
that
they
are
funding
and
similar
to
what
we
do
at
the
end
of
the
year.
If
there's
no
expenses
left,
we
can
move
money
over
to
the
reserves
accounts
and
that's
what
they've
been
doing.
So
when
you
in
your
packet,
you
see
their
financial
ratios
and
yes,
we
do
believe
that,
instead
of
growing
the
reserves
as
much
as
they
are,
they
could
absorb
the
14
dollars
an
hour
using
the
almost
million
dollars
in
growth
that
they're
also
receiving
this
year.
So,
yes,.
B
K
I
think
one
thing
that
I
appreciate,
y'all
done
is
took
into
consideration
of
the
pratt
and
whitney
and
understand
that
they're
not
willing
to
help
in
any
way
with
the
new
fire
station
and
with
the
ferry
road
land
going
to
be
developed
and
also
that's
just
going
to
be
more
staff
at
that
location.
Also
correct.
Yes,.
H
We
have
to
start
looking
at
staffing
for
that
as
well
and
also
apparatus
for
our
reporting
for
probably
within
a
good
ballpark,
maybe
two
years,
one
or
two
years,
it's
going
to
be
up
to
the
you
know,
finding
the
land
course
and
then
our
board,
with
with
the
finances,
make
sure
that
we
can
absorb
a
payment
as
a
bill
and,
as
you
know,
cost
is
astronomical
right
now,
probably
looking
close
to
five
being
a
ballparking
cost
of
a
two
by
fours
outrageous.
H
E
C
H
H
It's
not
a
skilled
trade.
All
right
we
had
to.
We
make
our
guys
go
through
different
state
certifications
that
they
have
to
get
there's
a
lot
of
training.
They
do
and
yes,
you're
at
14
an
hour
some
of
the
firefighters
have
we
lost
anybody
to
chick-fil-a,
not
as.
G
H
I'm
hoping
that
this,
the
passion
of
doing
the
job
and
helping
people
draws
people
that
way,
but
the
pay
is
the
competitive
pays
where
we
have
to
focus
on
that
we're
competing
against
other
fire
departments,
not
not
chick-fil-a.
I
know
chick-fil-a,
probably
I'm
using
them
as
an
example.
I
don't
know
what
their
hourly
rate
is
if
they
show
19
an
hour,
but
the
maximum
work
hours
is
32.
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
if
that's
how
they
make
it
look
appeasing.
Does
that
make
sense
you
know
for
us
we
would
have
to
have
them.
C
More
responsible,
it's
more
dangerous
than
what
they
are
paying.
Yes,
but
at
some
point
in
time
we
have
to
pay
people
what
the
jobs
were.
Yes,
sir
yeah,
that's
my
question.
I
believe
in
paying
for
what
you
get.
You
know.
That's
the
case.
I
don't
know
for
absolutely.
You
know
it's
coming
to
save
my
life.
H
County
manager
said
we'll
try
to
start
working,
our
our
costs
didn't
raise
up
to
that
to
meet
that
thing,
but
thank
you
for
recognizing
that
yeah,
it's
my
job
to
fight
for
my
employees
right
now.
The
golf
jobs
got
the
hard
decision
to
vote.
A
H
A
B
H
B
A
What
accounts
for
your
expenses
being
1.7
lower?
That's.
H
H
A
In
terms
of
planning
to
build
a
new
fire
station
with
the
tax
rate
that
you're
requesting,
do
you
foresee
that
you'll
be
able
to
implement
that
project
in
a
few
years?
From
now
with
that
tax
rate,
or
is
that
going
to
be
a
large
enough
project
that
you
may
need
to
talk
about
a
different
tax
rate?
But
that
project
is
you
know
further
along
in.
H
The
planning
process,
once
it's
close
to
the
planning
process,
we're
going
to
see
what
the
growth
is
like
we
talked
about
if
we
can
absorb
this
project
with
the
growth
we're
getting
the
future
growth
and
we
won't
ask
for
an
increase
of
course.
But
if
it's
something
we
hate
to
ask
for
increase
now,
just
try
to
guess
I'd.
I
H
K
But
actually,
this
is
just
for
getting
them
from
the
11
to
14..
Basically,
what
you're
doing
right
now,
not
looking
at
the
new
facility.
H
A
New
facility
online,
obviously
there's
capital
cost
of
that
there's
staffing
going
there.
I
realize
this
is
a
your
district-
is
a
growing
part
of
the
county
for
sure,
but
a
new
facility
like
that
it
really
doesn't
add
additional
revenue
right.
I
mean
it's
actually
just
kind
of
tall
to
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
ledger.
Right
you
got
to
build
it,
and
then
you
got
to
staff
it.
So
it's
going
to
going
to
be
an
investment.
It
doesn't
really
improve
your
revenues.
A
H
Being
built,
correct,
correct
and
hopefully
we're
looking
at.
G
I
H
A
A
Not
based
on
their
property
tax
rate,
is
it
or
is
it
based
on
the
like
value
of
the
property
in
the
district,
as
opposed
to
their
taxes.
A
H
G
A
Just
I
guess
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
this
is
you
know
in
terms
of
the
fire
districts
and
the
capital
projects
that
they
have,
which
you
know
can
be
very
significant
equipment?
Their
equipment
seems
to
be
real.
A
You
know
it
can
be
very
expensive
so
when,
when
the
staff
are
looking
at
it,
you
know
it
seems,
like
you
know,
their
fund
balance
is
not
necessarily
going
to
be
spent
equally
every
year,
because
some
of
these,
like
our
big
expenses
every
few
years,
and
so
you
know
the
need
to
kind
of
build
those
up,
be
prepared
to
pay.
For
that
I
don't
know,
I
guess
I'm
just
kind
of
asking
the
staff.
A
You're
recommending
that
that
the
funds
they
have
available,
you
know,
are
sufficient
to
do
what
they're
doing
as
well
as
meet
capital
needs
they're
saying.
Well,
we
need
to
build
some
of
this
up.
We're
prepared
for
these
bigger
expenses
that
come
along.
Just
any
other
thoughts.
You
would
share
with
us
around
kind
of
how
to
think
about.
It
does
seem
like
a
business
where
just
having
kind
of
a
very
steady
fund
balance
isn't
what's
needed,
because
you
do
need
to
build
up
the
reserves
for
these
bigger
ticket
items.
So.
E
A
E
A
E
Staff
the
benefits
for
that
and
bringing
our
current
employees
and
our
new
hires
up
15.
B
And
I
would
speak
to
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
is
a
support
versus
the
other
in
partnership
case
when
they
roll
the
chop.
They
have
maybe
one
or
two
so
several
times
they
don't
have
enough
to
really
stop
that
truck
and
they're
looking
to
hire
a
person
that
would
give
them
two
for
truck
we're
hoping
to
get
to
three
on
a
truck
and
that's
that's
national
standard
would
be
to
get
three
for
trucking
kiss
one
is
up.
You
can
still
roll
the
truck
in
your
case.
They
don't
have
the
staffing
levels.
B
E
A
Sounds
like
a
real
compelling
case
for
it.
You
know
the
partnership.
Tax
rate
is
one
I
think
it's
the
highest
rate
in
the
county
right,
and
is
that
primarily
just
in
terms
of
the
function
of
the
tax
base
in
the
district
relative
to
the
others,
where
you
know
the
tax
rate
is
higher,
but
there's
just
not
as
much.
E
E
Right
now,
they're
beyond
five
years,
but
the
personnel
thing
is
something
that
we
just
had
to
deal
with
right
on
the
shorter
term
basis.
But
yes,
we're
looking
to
have.
E
A
A
A
B
A
A
L
A
The
past
we
have
brought
some
education
information
to
you,
and
this
is
a
brief
of
some
of
that
same
information,
so
you'll
recognize
some
of
these
slides
presentation.
First
is
terminology
things
that
are
often
confused.
We
have
some
overlapping
terms
like
local,
current
expense
fund.
This
is
the
non-state
non-federal
expenditure
fund,
the
school
system,
our
local
sources
of
revenue.
A
A
That's
the
piece
of
flexibility
that
they
have
and
the
school
supplemental
taxes,
as
I'm
just
saying
that
is
the
actual
property
tax
district
itself
and
again,
just
like
fire
service
districts
comes
along
with
sales
tax
because
of
the
ad
alarm
method
of
distribution,
so
basics.
Here,
what
are
the
statutory
obligations?
A
The
state
public
school
fund-
that's
where
the
schools
receive
the
funds
from
the
state
to
operate
the
county.
It's
specified
will
cover
facility
requirements,
but
it
does
not
stop
there.
It
goes
on
to
create
the
local
current
expense
fund,
like
we
were
just
discussing.
It
serves
as
the
coverage
of
the
remaining
operations.
A
A
Average
daily
membership
is
another
thing
that
is
important
to
cover.
This
is
essentially
your
student
count,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
advertising
memberships
or
atms
final
monthly
best
one
of
two
and
what
you
have
before
you
is
what
dpi
provides
us
to
split
the
funding
between
the
district,
so
that
count
includes
charter
students,
that's
important
to
recognize
between
18
and
19
and
20
20
21.
J
A
A
The
last
column
is
a
bit
different
than
the
other
ones.
That
is
dpi's
estimated
planning
allotment
information.
It
does
not
include
charter
students.
So
if
you're
looking
at
that
strictly
as
raw
numbers,
yes
looks
like
a
huge
drop
off,
but
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
the
main
reason
we've
included,
that
figure
is
so
you
can
see
the
percentage
split
that
is
applied
and
see
it
across
years
as
well
notice.
A
So
I'm
sorry
sure,
so
you
don't
have
the
charter
school
number
in
there,
but
once
the
treasury
numbers
are
there,
these
numbers
for
2223
will
bounce
back
to
look
more
like
previous
year
right,
correct.
L
And
we
don't.
A
So
thinking
about
that
thinking
about
that
adm
count
also
brings
about
the
discussion
per
pupil
spending.
So
this
is
just
local
per
pupil
expenditure,
so
not
state
not
federal
or
total,
just
local
and
if
you're
looking
at
the
prior
years,
you'll
find
that
bunker
county
schools
consistently
ranks
mid
teens.
A
So,
let's
look
at
the
big
picture,
not
just
the
per
pupil
but
full
scale,
operational
and
capital
k12
support,
so
that
first
row
you
see
is
the
local
current
expense
appropriation,
73.2
million
for
bunker
county
schools,
14.2
million
for
asheville
city
schools.
If
you
stopped
right
there,
each
district
would
be
receiving
an
estimated
amount
per
fuel
support,
2
841,
but
as
we
have
discussed,
it
does
not
stop
there.
A
E
A
Of
the
year,
projecting
four
and
a
half
minutes
in
total,
that's
just
under
30
million
for
asheville
city
schools,
73.2
million
fort
buncombe
county
schools,
which
produces
the
estimated
support
number
you
see
before
you
an
extra
word
of
caution
here.
Not
only
does
that
include
estimated
figures,
that
is
projections,
but
it's
a
per
pupil.
That
is
not
final,
that
is
the
per
pupil
based
on
the
adm
numbers.
We
were
just
looking
at
a
moment
ago
that
allow
us
to
ensure
that
we're
providing
the
same
amount
per
pupil
to
each
district.
A
So
carrying
that
blue
line
forward
to
the
next
piece
there,
let's
also
talk
about
the
capital.
Very
briefly,
as
you
know,
the
articles
40
and
42
are
obligated
to
school
capital
portion
of
those
revenues
or
obligations
from
capital,
and
you
can
see
excluding
39,
it's
17
and
a
half
million
for
bunker
county
schools,
3.4
million
city
schools,
slight
difference
here
than
on
the
operating
slide.
Those
funds
are
split
by
a
different
adm.
A
I
know
it's
getting
confusing.
That's
a
non-charter.
Adm
is
used
for
for
capital
expenditures
and
that
is
per
the
state,
so
their
article
39
is
a
little
bit
different
for
buncombe
county.
As
you
know,
we
have
the
school
capital
fund.
Commission.
Those
dollars
are
not
separated
strictly
on
an
adm
percentage,
but
decided
by
the
school
capital
fund
commission
as
to
which
projects
are
approved.
For
that
reason,
it
is
not
broken
up
between
the
two
districts,
but.
B
A
A
Just
a
quick
clarification
with
regards
to
the
operational
support,
our
understanding,
or
my
understanding
you
should
say
is
that
is
totally
up
to
school
systems
about
how
those
operating
dollars
are
spent.
Correct.
That's
correct,.
A
A
I
don't
know
I
we
will
have
to
see
when
those
finalized
numbers
come
out,
but
I
do
think
that,
generally
speaking,
I
mean
we're
always
thinking
about
this,
we're
generally
thinking
about
85,
15
or
84
16
in
terms
of
split.
So
it's
almost
always
right
in
that
range.
A
And
then
I
was
specifically
talking
about
the
per
pupil
standing.
Oh
I'm
sorry!
So,
obviously,
yes,
that
will
be
determined
on
finalized
numbers.
I
believe
the
numbers
that
I
provided
before
this
presentation
were
based
on
the
best
one
of
two
adm
that
still
doesn't
represent
the
finalized
medium,
but
it
does
give
a
little
more
context.
I
suppose,
for
that
time
period
state
is
fun,
so
it's
not
that
one
is
necessarily
more
accurate
than
the
other,
but
it's
two
different
atms.
G
A
Right
what
the
districts
receive
in
their
local
discretionary
funds,
a
portion
of
that
does
go
to
charters,
they're
responsible
for
passing,
that
law.
C
G
A
C
C
You
didn't
answer
my
question:
well
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
we're
losing
in
the
public
schools
because
of
what
goes
to
charter
schools.
Where
do
we
show?
You
know
when
we
see
the
numbers
per
pupil,
what
they're
paying
that
includes?
What
goes
to
charter
schools
right,
that's
correct!
So
that's
really
misleading!
When
you
look
at
the
public
schools
because
they
don't
have
that
money
right.
A
G
A
E
B
B
Kids,
leave
that
school
and
go
to
charter.
Then
just
money
follows
that
child.
So
the
sam's
point
is
a
verification
process
and
once
they
verify
that,
then
the
schools
in
turn
to
send
that
money
to
whatever
charge
they
go
to
so
sam.
Can
you
go
back
a
couple
of
slides
to
show
that
adm
number
yeah
right
there
so
on
this
slide,
you
will
see
that
over
time
that
number
on
the
bottom
that
shows
charter
schools.
B
B
A
Correct
way
so
like
in
2122
for
the
asheville
city,
school
district,
4,
982
students,
that's
not
4982
students
attending
the
asheville
city
schools,
but
who
live
in
the
district
of
the
asheville
city
school
and
most
of
them
go
to
the
city
schools,
but
some
of
them
go
to
church.
That's
the
total
number
of
kids
in
the
district,
not
kids,.
A
A
That
clarification
knew
something
about
these
reflect
the
number
of
students
living
in
the
districts,
not
the
number
of
students
attending
the
traditional
public
schools.
I'm
still
not
clear.
Why
is
there
the
so
that
is
just
their
estimate,
estimated
planning,
allotments
those
are
for
the
districts
to
use
to
help
them
with
their
planning.
I've
included
it
here
just
to
show
the
percentage
split
that
we're
going
to
show
at
a
later
point
in
the
presentation.
J
A
The
state
has
calculated
for
estimating.
A
During
the
year
that
is
correct,
but
we're
trying
to
base
our
actions
on
the
best
information
we
have
available
and
at
this
time
that
is
the
best
information
that
dpi.
B
B
I'm
sorry
I
didn't
hear
that.
Can
you
go
back
to
the
edm,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
school
partners
I
see
tina
shaking
her
head
back
there
so
tina?
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
giving
accurate
data.
So
if
you
have
something
different,
please
come
on.
A
D
J
L
J
A
We
want
to
come
up
here,
I'm
so
sorry,
georgia
do
you
want
to
speak
as
well,
we
get
together
every
year
and
we
work
out
the
calculation,
the
split
for
people
based
on
our
averages,
and
this
is
done
with
a
common
goal
to
make
it
an
average
that
gets
split
out
to
our
charter.
Schools,
not
one
or
the
other.
L
A
That
would
go
with
the
student
that
goes
to
the
charter
school
with
the
additional
funding
the
county
is
putting
in
per
people.
Does
that
funding
also
follow
the
kid
going
to
the
charter
schools?
The
local
spark
that
comes
through
is
based
on
our
buncombe
county
and
then
actual
city
portion
that
portion
of
it.
G
D
I
A
A
L
You
do
have
in
your
actual
city,
school
information,
powerpoint
and
information,
how
much
we
spend
on
charter
schools.
But
if
you
want
us
to
break
down
the
difference
between
a
buncombe
county
school
district
charter
school
and
an
asheville
city
school
district
charter
school
allocation,
we
can
do
that.
A
D
L
A
E
E
That's
a
hard
act
to
follow.
I
appreciate
the
presentation
our
budget
is
similar
in
that
the
county
portion
funds,
the
operations
of
our
of
our
campus,
the
state
funds
pay
for
our
our
faculty
and
staff.
As
we're
talking
about
head
count,
I'm
proud
to
tell
you
that
ab
tech
has
rebounded
from
our
coded
slump.
Our
numbers
are
looking
better
we're
excited
about
that.
Without
any
further
ado,
I
would
ask
that
dr
dirk
willmoth,
our
vice
president
of
administration,
come
and
make
the
presentation
for.
Thank
you.
B
E
A
Two
two
percent
increase,
which
represents
four
hundred
and
fifty
two
thousand
dollars
from
the
county
county
budget.
The
increase
will
be
used
to
pay
increases
for
county
employees
to
match
the
anticipated.
E
Dollars
or
excuse
me,
as
well
as
bring
up
equity,
increases
to
the
state
minimum
for
state
community.
E
Increases
in
expenses
for
utilities
that
we
anticipate,
which
is
similar
to
everybody,.
A
Them
we're
able
to
draw
down
on
our
cash
reserves
as
well
for
some
of
our
operational
costs.
E
A
Emergency
repairs
and
replacements
we
had
to
have.
E
F
Comparison
of
our
budget
for
this
current
year
at
the
end.
E
Of
march
we're
at
77
of
our
budget,
so
we're
right.
On
top
of
the
the
pro
rata
expectation
there
you
can
see
that
we
actually
expect
the
proposed
budget
next
year
would
be
2.728.
F
E
Billion
dollars
on
the
revenue
side
on
the
next
page
is
the
expense
all
the
expenses
you'll
see
there.
The
broad
categories,
salaries
and
benefits
we're
at
73
at
the
end
of
march,
we're
asking
for
3.266.
E
Employees
which
we
would
like
to
match
our
bumper
county
employees.
E
Six
percent
at
the
end
of
march,
we
are
asking
for
a
proposed
budget
slightly
less
than
this
year,
3.187.
E
The
final
page
here
just
talks
in
generality,
about
how
we're
doing
we've
been
very
frugal.
The
last
few
years
again,
I
think
in
large
part
to
the
the
benefits
that
accrued
from
the
expense
in
the
article
46
funds
to
keep
our.
J
F
Our
chief
finance
officer,
so
I'm
gonna,
go
ahead
and
get
started
if
I
could
just
take
a
second
to
recognize.
I
appreciate
sam's
presentation,
but
I
think
it
underscores
every
year
I've
come
here.
I've
pointed
out
a
significant
issue
that
we're
all
dealing
with
presenting
these
budgets
at
this
time
and
that's
a
timing
issue
so
you're
looking
at
numbers
that
aren't
exactly
accurate,
we're
having
a
crystal
ball
a
number
of
what
a
number
of
dollars
that
we
have
to
present.
F
So
that's
that's
a
challenge,
so
just
one
just
take
a
few
seconds,
so
I
appreciate
the
liberty
to
do
that.
Those
of
you
that
have
served
multiple
terms
you
this
this
slide
might
be
familiar
to
you
because
I
I
presented
each
year.
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
the
budget
for
buncombe
county
schools,
similar
to
the
majority
of
public
schools
across
the
state.
F
F
So
I
think
it's
important
to
say
this
year
is
a
bit
atypical,
because
that
47.5,
that
you
see
for
state
funding
last
year
when
I
presented
this
slide
to
you
that
was
65.5,
which
is
over
the
years,
like
quite
normal
from
a
historical
standpoint,
again
a
heavy
dependence.
Now
why
the
shift?
If
you
look
over
at
federal,
it's
28.94
percent
last
year,
it
was
7.65.
F
So
why
is
that?
It's
the
predominance
of
s
or
funding,
which
I
know
is
a
county
you're
very
familiar
with,
but
I
think
that's
important
again
to
understand
from
our
standpoint
how
dependent
we
are
upon
the
state
funding,
but
I
think,
as
we
all
understand,
the
states
just
don't
provide
enough
funding
to
adequately
operate
really
any
school
system.
In
the
state,
so
again
that's
the
dependence
upon
coming
to
you
and
requesting
additional
local
funds.
A
G
F
F
High
percentage
of
our
funds
to
operate
our
school
system
go
towards
salaries
and
benefits.
Again.
This
is
a
bit
atypical
from
what
I'm
showing
you
for
the
current
21-22
school
year.
That's
76
that
you
see
again
dedicated
towards
salary
and
benefits.
F
So
the
difference
is
for
this
particular
year
that
24
is
esser
funding,
so
in
esser
funding
a
percentage
of
those
federal
funds
have
already
been
allocated
toward
non-human
salary
benefits
expenses.
So
that's
the
difference.
F
F
So,
as
I
said
previously,
the
state
never
fully
funds
enough
staffing
to
operate
our
schools.
If
we
depended
upon
to
give
you
an
example,
a
realistic
example
in
the
classroom,
those
of
you
that
have
children
in
either
one
of
our
school
systems,
if
it
wasn't
for
the
local
funding,
probably
we
wouldn't
have
art.
We
wouldn't
have
physical
education.
F
We
wouldn't
have
music
classes
because
those
teachers
again
aren't
part
of
what
the
state
designates
as
core
and
state
funded.
So
what
do
those
745
positions?
Look
like
they're
over
several
categories.
Again,
these
are
these
are
categories
of
positions
that
state
funds
are
not
dedicated
toward.
We
have
classroom
teachers
and,
as
I
mentioned,
our
art
teacher
physical
education
teachers
are
good
examples.
F
198
of
those
office
support
one
of
our
offices.
When
you
walk
in
our
schools,
you
go
in
our
main
office.
The
clerical
support.
That's
there,
the
bookkeepers,
those
are
all
paid
out
of
local
funds,
skilled
trades,
extremely
important,
especially
when
you
consider
we're
the
14th
largest
school
system
in
the
state
of
north
carolina
out
of
115.
F
We
have
over
40
buildings
and
campuses
that
we're
responsible
for
maintaining
when
you
talk
about
skilled
trades,
you're
talking
about
bus,
mechanics,
keep
buses
on
the
road
you're
talking
about
plumbers,
electricians,
maintenance,
mechanics,
all
very
important,
classified
school-based
specialist.
A
good
example
of
that
is
your
data
manager,
the
accountability
piece.
F
The
reason
we're
able
to
give
you
up-to-date
numbers
inside
a
school
building
on
any
particular
school
day,
while
we're
in
session
is
because
of
those
data
managers
very
very
important,
instructional
assistance,
that's
primarily
k-3
and
we
actually
supplement
beyond
what
the
state
provides,
and
I
will
promise
you
this
and
covet
in
the
world
of
kogit
those
instructional
assistants.
F
If
any
of
you
had
children
either
in
k-3
or
you
had
sons
or
dollars
that
were
teaching
in
k-3,
I
think
they
would
strongly
support
what
I'm
going
to
tell
you
is
that
those
assistants
were
invaluable
and
valuable
working
with
our
children,
especially
as
we
not
from
only
the
academic
recovery
but
the
social,
emotional
behavioral.
Piece
too,
when
you
look
at
technicians,
admin,
specialists
again
best
example,
I
can
give
you
is
the
six
months
that
we
were
entirely
at
home,
providing
virtual
instruction.
F
F
34
assistant
principals
against
state
does
not
fully
cover
administratively,
I'm
sure
you
will
know
our
certified
instructional
support
examples,
media
coordinators,
instructional,
coaches,
again
extremely
extremely
important,
especially
when
you
consider
a
year
of
academic
recovery
that
this
year
has
represented
how
important
those
coaches
are
inside
those
classrooms
managers
for
our
maintenance
department.
Those
are
directors
under
mr
clark
wyatt
and
then
our
district
based
directors
and
supervisors,
and
I'm
going
to
say
this.
I've
said
it
before.
F
When
we
talk
about
budgeting
and
one
of
the
first
things
I
hear
when
it's
tossed
out
across
the
state,
it's
oh,
my
gosh
they're,
so
central
office
hit
well,
I
would
challenge
that
statement
concerning
bulking
county
schools.
Historically,
we
are
one
of
the
leanest.
F
F
F
Okay.
Commissioner
whitesides,
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
next
couple
of
slides
that
I
think
will
answer
that
question.
G
F
You'll
see
at
the
bottom
they've
listed,
for
example,
there's
the
gear
pod
of
funding
that
came
from
the
governor's
office.
So
the
thing
to
remember
is
even
though
there's
some
labeling
that
considers
it
it's
state
funding.
These
are
all
from
the
federal
government.
That's
important
to
understand
so
seven
pots
and
of
those
seven
pots
that
you
see
there
that
are
represented
by
the
various
colors
recognize
that
three
of
those
have
already
expired.
F
Okay,
in
fact,
the
first
three
that
you
see
the
gray,
brown
and
green.
Those
have
already
expired.
So
what
this
represents
is
essentially
the
expenditures
as
as
of
current
expenditures.
So
that's
the
38
million
commissioner
white
side.
That's
been
expanded,
38
million
25
dollars.
Now,
when
you
total
all
seven
of
those
pots
of
coke
funds,
that's
94
million
five
hundred
fifty
nine
thousand
eight
hundred
fifty
five
dollars.
F
I've
been
in
this
business
a
long
time
and
I
go
all
the
way
back
to
being
a
student
in
bunking
county
schools
back
in
first
grade,
because
I
didn't
have
kindergarten
back
that
time.
I
told
you
all
the
way,
but
I'll
tell
you
this,
and
I
believe
that
that's
the
highest
amount
of
money
our
school
system
has
ever
received.
F
So
let
me
address
the
elephant.
Room
got
all
that
money,
so
what
am
I
doing
here
even
sitting
here
asking
money
from
you
come
here
to
president?
Why
would
I
do
that?
I
think
I
think
the
answer
and
I
think
it's
very
true
of
the
coveted
funding
that
you've
received
county
government.
It
is
highly
restricted.
F
The
other
issue
that
comes
up
is
when
you
have
federal
funds,
and
I
go
all
the
way
back
when
I
was
first
hired
as
superintendent
in
2008-2009.
That's
when
the
stimulus
funding
came,
you
may
recall
that
that
was
a
that
was
a
sizeable
portion
not
like
this.
F
F
F
F
A
Of
this
fun,
just
some
of
those
funds
were,
when
you
say,
restricted
supposed
to
be
spent
on
super
specific
things
like
hvac.
F
Our
schools
well
hvac,
hvac
is
a
great
example.
In
fact,
we
just,
I
think
her
and
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
you
tina,
but
we
just
heard
from
the
state.
I
think
ours
was
the
model
for
all
state
school
systems
in
terms
of
the
percentages
and
moving
on
the
hvac
systems
and
again,
a
lot
of
that
was
tied
into
the
coded
response:
the
more
efficient
air
system
from
a
public
health
standpoint
better
to
respond
to
to
covet,
but
there
were
other
again
non-human
aspects
to
the
funding
we.
A
L
This
laid
out,
and
then
we
have
gotten
it
all
approved.
You
have
to
go
through
major.
A
Requirements
we've
gotten
all
that
approved
and
we
are
moving
forward
when
we
have
been
moving
for
several
months.
So
I'm
going
to.
L
F
So
I
want
you
to
understand
that
again
that
94
million
dollars
is
a
huge
amount
of
money,
but
the
decisions
that
were
made
and
how
to
use
every
single
dollar
went
through
that
particular
committee
and
again
the
primary
emphasis
was
to
make
sure
that
we
impacted
as
highly
as
possible
a
high
percentage
of
those
funds
inside
that
classroom,
because
our
number
one
mission
academic
recovery,
combined
with
the
social,
emotional
behavioral
piece
in
terms
of
that
recovery
just
as
important.
So
these
coded
funds
are
extremely.
F
Valuable
to
allow
us
to
to
do
what
we
got
to
do
and
again
running
through
2024.
B
A
L
A
Can
you
can
implement
activities
to
maintain
the
operation
and
continuity
of
services,
as
well
as
utilizing
that
for
existing
staff
and
employees?
So
I
mean
there
is
definitely
some
flexibility
there
to
where
you
potentially
be
using
that
or
staffing
and
employees.
I
realize
that
that
will
end
september
2024,
but
there's
the
potential
of
phasing
in
or
utilizing
some
of
that
bridge.
F
That's
true
a
good
example:
when
we
talk
about
personnel
that
was
tied
directly
into
the
copic
response
and
recovery
was
the
psychologists,
behavioral
specialists,
counselors
and
I'm
sure
mrs
tander
would
agree
with
me.
The
challenge
is
for
us,
and
a
lot
of
this
is
why
we're
here,
when
we're
talking
about
applicant
pool
the
best
intention,
because
we
need
those
individuals,
those
professionals
for
the
recovery
effort,
but
they're
hard
to
find.
F
So
when
you
see
the
difference
in
terms
of
expenditures
and
the
total
allotment,
what
we
have
encumbered,
what
we're
finding
is
we
send
those
advertisement
out
for
personnel
as
you
reference
we've
got
to
find
them
first
and
it's
difficult
in
some
of
those
areas
to
find
those
type
of
professionals.
We
don't
give
up
on
it,
because
I
promise
you
they
are
needed
at
any
point
in
time
in
our
school
system,
but
that
that
is
a
good
example
of
how
we've
been
able
to
now.
What
do
we
do
if
we
hire
that
person?
F
F
G
F
Ms
pander,
I
think,
had
the
first
copy
of
a
study
that
was
presented
to
our
school
board
last
thursday,
and
so
I
want
to
just
spend
just
just
a
few
minutes
in
terms
of.
Why
did
we
opt
to
identify
a
consulting
group
to
come
in
and
do
a
classified
employee,
salary
stuff?
F
F
This
number
one
is
the
importance
of
those
classified
employees,
and
I
think
this
county
government
and
city
government
would
share
it,
because
you've
indicated
already
in
your
budget
intent
that
they're
valuable
and
we've
got
to
do
something
to
make
sure
we're
recruiting
we're,
retaining
and
we're
maintaining
them
in
our
schools
and
in
our
public
buildings
there
they
are
our
classified
employees,
our
hourly-based
employees,
our
non-certified
employees,
are
the
lifeline
to
us
being
able
to
operate
our
schools.
F
We
give
you
just
a
few
examples.
First,
over
sixty
percent
of
our
students
in
bunker
county
ride
school
bus.
F
G
F
You
may
know
this
75
percent
of
our
students
in
bunker
county
schools
eat
breakfast
and
lunch.
Thank
goodness
we
were
given
through
the
federal
government
opportunity
to
have
universal
breakfast
and
lunch
for
everyone.
Now
that
ends
miss
payne.
Our
child
nutrition
director
is
back
here.
She's
already
been
many
sleepless
nights
already
finding
that
out,
but
think.
F
Because,
as
we
found
through
coded
when
we
weren't
open
you,
you
know
this
for
a
fact,
because
I
brought
you
pictures
and
I
told
you,
asheville
city
was
right
there
with
us.
What
did
we
do
about
that?
Because
we've
got
families?
We've
got
kids
that
depend
upon
those
lunches,
those
breakfasts
we
put
on
school
buses
and
we
sent
out
them.
We
went
out
into
the
homes
and
communities
and
we
provide
it
we're
going
to
do
that
again
this
summer
to
some
extent,
because
schools
aren't
open
for
everyone.
F
F
Our
school
buildings
we
got
45
of
them,
but
you
may
not
know,
is
that
we've
we
range
in
age
for
those
buildings.
Our
newest
building
is
now
five
years
old.
That's
intermediate
school
espresso
you've
been
through
that
building
beautiful
building.
We've
also
got
a
building
out
in
reynolds
district
oakley
elementary,
that's
102
years
old.
F
How
would
we
maintain
those
buildings
if
we
didn't
have
the
maintenance
staff
if
we
didn't
have
the
custodians.
F
F
Absolutely
crucial
second
reasons
is:
there
is
a
sense
of
urgency
again
you
feel
it.
We
feel
it
city
feels
it.
F
F
F
F
This
is
where
we're
at
again.
I
think
it's
a
significant
sense
of
urgency.
So
why
did
we
ask
for
that
study?
I
think
we
felt
that
there
was
a
again
a
sense
of
urgency.
We
had
to
get
some
recommendations
coming
not
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
of
this.
You
have
a
copy
of
what
that
study
is
in
october
21,
and
I
also
tell
you
the
consulting
group
that
we
use
for
three
former
school
financial
school
finance
is
a
different
animal
than
you're
going
to
find
in
budgets
across
even
across
government.
F
F
F
F
What
were
the
goals
of
this
particular
study
to
evaluate
compare
salary
ranges
for
non-certified
classified
groups
again?
The
key
is
recruitment
retention
and
maintaining
competitive
competitiveness,
okay,
12
public
school
market
funds
and
then
provide
recommendations
for
placements
of
the
classified
groups
on
this
new
scale.
A
F
It's
not
trying
to
compare
to
some
other
areas
of
the
state
yeah,
it's
not
that
we
have
to
sell
them
on
living
here.
Cost
living
is
a
whole
nother
balcony,
and
I
think
that
study
did
a
good
job
of
looking
across
the
state.
You
saw
some
numbers
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that
in
terms
of
what
they're
showing
across
the
state
in
terms
of
cost
of
living.
F
F
So
we
lose
employees
because
of
that
we've
got
to
find
some
way
to
expand
that
and
let
me
stop
and
because
I
don't
I'm
sounding
awful
negative.
Let
me
be
positive
and
let
me
look
at
you
and
thank
you
20
years
ago,
20
years
ago
there
was
a
study
very
similar
to
this.
That
was
done
for
bunker
county
schools
and
whoever
the
superintendent
at
that
time
in
the
board
came
up
here,
presented
that
study
and
out
of
that
study
20
years
ago.
F
F
F
F
F
F
North
carolina
budget
tax
center
just
released
it
yesterday
afternoon.
This
is
for
2022,
a
family
of
one
adult
and
two
children
welcome
welcome
camp
because
it
lists
every
single
county
that
looked
across
the
state
and
now
this
standard-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
quote
it
is.
It
is
identified
as
modest
living
with
no
financial
cushion
against
emergencies
like
the
loss
of
a
job
or
an
illness,
welcome
county
hourly
rate
31
annual
64
330
dollars
now
again,
family
one
adult
and
two
children.
F
F
G
F
F
A
L
D
F
F
You
see
listed
that
again
from
the
state
budget.
Now
remember
this
is
a
biennial
budget,
so
we
came
to
you
and
again
thank
you
because
when
I
initially
came
for
the
2122
budget,
we
I
think
we
might
have
had
the
governor's
budget
out,
but
that
was
it
and
the
decision
you
made
was
look
come
back
to
us
once
you
get
final
figures
and
you
know
what
the
state
salary
rank
up
rate
is
going
to
be
in
terms
of
raises
and
the
health
insurance
rate
and
the
retirement
rate
come
every
single
year.
E
F
This
is
the
second
year
of
that
budget
and
in
the
second
year
things
increase
and
you
can
see
the
certified
staff,
the
salaries,
the
2.5
percent
again,
including
step
classified
staff,
2.5
retirement
rate,
increase
hospitalization
and
that's
health
insurance.
You've
seen
that
increase
too
in
terms
of
dollar
figures.
F
F
F
F
Now,
when
you
put
the
2.5
increase,
that's
also
given
by
the
state
again
locally
paid
state's
not
going
to
provide
funding
for
those
locally
paid,
100
locally
paid
individuals
and
the
board
made
this
decision,
and
this
was
the
recommendation
because
we
we
came
with
an
earlier
figure.
Ms
tinder,
the
difference
was
after
the
presentation
was
made.
The
recommendation
was
that
the
15
per
hour
for
these
employees
be
the
base
and
the
supplement
on
top
of
it.
F
Now
why
the
reason,
because
the
board
asked
the
reason,
was
because
of
the
cost
of
living
to
make
it
here
in
buncombe,
county
national
city,
so
that
was
the
decision
made,
I
believe
100.
That
was
the
right
thing
to
do
so
we're
coming
to
you
again.
This
figure
represents
the
full
recommendations
of
that
study
to
get
our
ship
righted
and
moving
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
our
classified
report.
F
F
F
B
F
F
Is
that
happening
with
anybody's
insurance
from
home?
I
got
a
feeling
because
you're
seeing
some
rate
increases
as
well
impact,
but
that's
a
lot
of
fun,
a
lot
of
money
that
we've
got
to
now
look
back
and
how
do
we
budget
contracted
services
mentioned
hbac?
This
is
the
first
time
I
can
ever
recall.
We've
gone
out,
we've
actually
contracted
for
hbac
services.
Why?
Because
we
don't
have
enough
hvac
technicians
to
handle
our
buildings,
and
especially
during
in
in
covenant
coping
world.
F
How
important
is
that
we
have
to
make
sure
that's
given
priority
maintenance
technology
repaired
the
whole
supply
chain
issue.
It's
it's
just
hit
us.
It's
hit
us
all,
but
I
want
this.
I
want
this
commission
to
understand
that
this
is
impacting
us
and
here's
how
it's
impacting
us
and
with
that
figure
again
try
to
offset
we're
talking
three
million
seven
hundred
thirty,
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
eighty
nine
dollars.
F
A
F
F
E
F
Able
to
pay
for
it
at
the
rate
that
we
had
in
front
of
us
because
it
wasn't
available,
but
we
had
to
wait
until
it
did
become
available
again
every
single
person
probably
faced
this.
Are
you
willing
to
pay
the
increase
from
when
we
could
have
purchased
it
at
x,
amount
of
dollars
to
later
months
when
it
comes
to
us
that
forward
funding
is
absolutely
crucial.
F
I've
heard
the
argument
that
we
can
come
to
you
with
your
fund
balance
and-
and
you
can
help
us
out,
but
guys
I
don't
think
anybody
I
don't
think
miss
peter.
I
don't
think
your
finance
staff
wants
phone
calls
from
us
every
other
day
because
to
operate
the
size
school
system
that
we
have.
This
is
what
this
is,
what
it
means,
and
it
represents
so
again,
just
just
for
the
for
your
knowledge.
F
We
are
still
embedding
the
significant
amount
and
I'd
say
we
had
to
look
at
percentage
of
our
fund
balance.
What
are
we
talking
about?
85
to
90
percent,
on
balance,
embedded,
fair.
F
A
L
J
F
F
As
you're
thinking
through
questions,
I
I
do
want
to
you-
have
requested
this
and
again
it's
just
an
opportunity
to
say
how
grateful
we
are.
I
believe
this
was
the
second
round
of
the
school
community
impact
funding.
F
F
L
A
Several
months
we
can't
get
it
in
and
then
the
other
one
is
the
sds
elementary
they've
got
cameras
for
their
playground
and
for
other
areas,
that's
included,
and
we
also
have
those
on
that
order.
And
hopefully
we
will
have
those
installed
and
I
can
send
you
pictures
in
june,
but
we
are
having
terrible
issues
with
anything
technology
related
getting
it
in
the
inventory.
A
B
A
A
few
questions
and
I'll
just
say:
first
before
I
start
asking
the
questions,
I
I've
gone
around
and
visited
several
other
schools
over
these
past
several
months,
and
when
I
asked
the
principals
what
they
needed,
I
will
say
every
single
one
of
them
did
say
that
they
needed
better
wages
for
their
support
staff
for
this
classified
staff.
So
I
mean
I
clearly
heard.
A
Everybody
that
they're
hurting
in
that
area-
and
so
I
hear
that
and
also
just
have
some
very
specific
questions
to
try
to
understand
here
so
starting
with
your
first
bullet
on
that
one,
it's
certified
staff,
and
so
with
this.
Are
you
talking
specifically
with
this
one
about
the
certified
staff
that
we
pay
for
locally?
A
A
So
yeah
taking
the
local
supplement
aside
right,
but
so
you're
asking
for
a
step
increase
here:
1.3,
which
averages
2.5
across
all
steps,
and
so
what
you're
saying
is
you're
actually
asking
for
funds
from
us
to
cover
staff
that
are
covered
by
the
state.
The
state
law
mandates
that
they
must
receive
this,
and
so
those
few.
L
D
A
They
are
fully
locally
funded,
so
I
understand
about
the
fully
locally
funded,
but
so
you're,
not
including
any
of
the
non-locally
funded
and
disaster
that
certified
staff.
That
portion
comes
from
the
state
right
sure.
Okay,
then,
on
the
uncertified
staff,
that
what
percentage
so
there
are
some
state-covered
non-certified
staff
for
buncombe
county
and
about
how
many
out
of
that
745
is
the
non-certified
staff
that
we
cover
locally.
D
A
A
J
That
we
know
the
state
is
short
on.
Yes,
what.
L
Okay,
so
it's
very
minimal
amount
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
state's
to
cover
and
and
justify
the
portion.
B
A
A
Well,
I
want
to
clarify
first,
what
state
sheet
are
you
looking
at
for
your
salary
study,
what
what
your
consultants
propose
so
steps,
the
yeah
the
proposed
classified
salary,
so
that
so
that
is
different
from
what
it
looks
like
currently
on
the
state.
L
Going
to
match
that
exactly
we
had
okay.
J
A
But
it's
when
you
get
into
our
pay
grades
and
our
local
and
our
classified
staff,
you
have
to
really
get
into
every
pay
category.
L
And
we
did
the
budget
team
and
I
sat
through
this.
It
does
not
match
that
exactly
because
we
can't
make
we.
A
J
E
G
B
I
my
mom.
A
A
Page
from
the
seller
study
to
pick
on
them,
I'm
seeing
29k
as
a
minimum,
moving
up
to
36k
maximum
for
that
position
from
what
you
were
saying
earlier
to
us
has
that
wage
range
stayed
steady
for
over
a
decade
that,
yes,
it
has
been
lost
if
they
started
year
zero
and
they
now
have
15
years
in
they're
just
now
receiving
an
increase
in
their
salary.
They
have
been
at
the
same
salary.
L
Then
in
0.809,
the
great
recession
hit
and
those
salary
schedules,
except
for
if
a
state
came
through,
which
I
think
they've
only.
I
think
the.
L
Frozen
and
so
it's
based
on
that
plus,
we
didn't
request
an
increase
to
and
we
didn't
request
a
salary
change.
We
didn't
request
for
the
cost
of
living.
A
And
then,
but
there
there
is
a
progression
within
that,
and
so
because
earlier
you
said
something
that
confused
me.
You
said
it
took
15
years
for
someone
to
get
a
raise,
and
so
I
mean
there's
there's
paid
grade
steps
within
this.
Only
that's
that
is
not
our
current
salary.
If
you
pull
up
buncombe
county's
salary,
that's
on
our
finance
department
and
you
look
from
pay
great
about
three
or
four
years
ago.
They
tried.
J
A
Because
of
it
being
locked
from
zero
to
fifteen,
so
pull
those
up
and
you
can
look
from
pay
grade.
59.
A
Every
lea
has
a
different
classified
pay
scale
across
the
state.
Okay,
commissioner,
rolls
this
point,
though,
I'm
even
more
confused.
Now
when
you
say
that
you
didn't
request
an
increase,
are
you
speaking
about
not
requesting
an
increase
from
the
buncombe
county
board
of
commissioners
over
time
or
to
the
state
foreign
and
then
okay?
We
didn't
request.
A
F
A
Right,
that's
why
I
wasn't
sure
that
was
misleading,
yes,
not
requesting.
Thank
you
one
thing
just
while
we're
talking
about
the
state,
because
I
do
feel
we've
clearly
had
some
unfunded
mandates
right
and
then
it's
coming
down,
and
I
think
your
your
consultants
even
spoke
to
this
and
their
presentation
to
you,
because
what
it
amounts
to
those
unfunded
mandates
and
then
putting
them
in
the
issue
gets
funneled
down
here
locally,
and
so
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
all
acknowledge
that
and
keep.
A
I
know
it
doesn't
change
why
you're
coming
to
us,
but
the
reality
is:
if
we're
we're
not
holding
the
state
accountable.
This
is
going
to
continue
to
be
a
problem
and
I
think
the
state
has
what
about
four
billion
in
additional
revenue
that
we
just
learned
about
here
this
week
for
this
fiscal
cycle,
and
I
really
think
that
we
all
need
to
be
reaching
out.
A
I
mean
everybody
this
room
everywhere,
reaching
out
to
the
state
and
saying
they
gotta
find
a
local
education
and
fund
what
you're
mandating
to
be
done
because
one
of
the
things
that
concerns
me
and
I'm
I
was
a
teacher.
I
was
in
education,
so
I
value
public
education
and
when
I
look
at
I
understand
why
you're
coming
and
I
I
get
that
you're
desperate.
I
understand
it,
but
then,
if
this
continues
to
go
on
that
the
state
does
this
and
doesn't
fund
it
and
you
have
to
come
to
us.
I
mean
what
happens
over
time.
A
Is
we
end
up
right?
If,
if
we
fund
all
these
requests
and
what
happens
to
all
the
other
county
services,
it
starts
cutting
into
that,
because
it's
that's
just
a
reality,
and
so
I
mean
we've
got
some
really
hard
decisions
that
we've
got
to
be
looking
at
and-
and
I
think
like
even
for
this
budget-
I
mean-
I
think
we
really
have
to
sit
down
and
look
at
these
numbers
and
address
what
can
be
done,
because
you
know,
I
think,
some
of
that
four
billion
from
the
state.
A
You
know
they
should
be
putting
that
toward
our
public
schools
and
then,
when
I
look
at
those
esser
funds
that
you
have,
the
reality
is
that's
why
I
think
about
50
million,
or
so
you
have
sitting
there
still.
I
mean
I
feel,
like
that's
going
to
be
on
the
table
for
us
to
be
able
to
work
with
you
to
help
you
do
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish.
Here
I
mean
I,
I
don't
think
we
can
take
anything
off
the
table.
Let
me
address
that
a
little
deeper
in
esther
fund,
so
it's
so.
A
A
L
Keep
us
afloat
and
keep
us
moving
and
through
natural
attrition.
We
are
adjusting
to
to
use
those
funds
in
an
order
in
the
way
that
we
can
legally,
and
so
we
have
gone
through
different
scenarios.
We
have
our
and
because
basically,
based
on
what
he
was
saying
earlier,
there's
some
categories
that
we
could
put
our
field
techs
in
our
technicians
out
of
technology
and
we
put
those
in
there.
There
was
some
ec.
F
So
so,
for
example,
with
those
technicians,
even
though
it
fit
the
use
of
s
or
funds,
because
they
were
desperately
needed
as
a
response
to
covet
when,
when
coveted,
I
don't
know
if
covet
will
ever
end
per
se
but
as
it
diminishes
an
impact,
we
still
don't
need
those
technicians,
because,
if
anything
coming
out
of
covet
it's
it's
almost
expanded
the
use
of
virtual
in
different
ways,
virtual
instruction,
so
the
technology
piece
is
not
going
to
end.
So
it
always
comes
back
to
this
sustainability
piece
because
and
again,
just
from
a
common
analogy.
F
Your
statement
regarding
the
state.
That's
a
very
fair
assessment,
a
very
fair
assessment,
but
but
I'll
also
bring
it
back
to
the
reality
of
inside
the
school
building,
I'm
inside
a
middle
school
and
I'm
teaching
on
the
same
team
as
mrs
thorpe.
F
F
Now
again,
I'm
really
no
more
important
to
the
education
of
that
child
on
my
team
as
she
is,
but
is
it
fair
for
me
to
get
the
additional
without
finding
the
the
conversation?
Now?
Is
that
fair
for
you
as
commissioners
and
kicking
up,
because
we
just
saw
this-
I
saw
the
slide
earlier.
Your
primary
responsibility
is
in
capital,
but
the
reality
of
operating
a
successful,
effective
school
system
and
the
impact
that
it
has
on
this
entire
county
from
an
economic
development
standpoint
is
huge.
F
So
it's
it's!
It's
a
it's
a
balancing
game,
but
you,
your
assessment,
is,
is
right
on
it
and
I
also
say
that
in
terms
of
unfunded
mandates
that
that's
a
common
term
in
my
10
year,
superintendent
from
the
state,
but
I'd
also
say
that
it's
not
that
uncommon
outside
of
school
finance
in
other
years
inside
government
state
unfunded
mandates
that
somehow
we're
required
now
by
law
to
provide.
F
J
A
So
you
know
I
appreciate
the
point
about
the
these
federal
funds
are
not
recurring
funds
they're
with
us
now
and
very
helpful,
but
are
not
expected
to
be
renewed.
A
Of
magnitude
they
are
now,
but
you
know
I
mean
this
is
this
is
a
big
ask
which
everyone's
acknowledged
they're
really
big
ass.
You
know,
I
don't
think
we've
ever
seen
anything
of
this
order
of
magnitude
during
the
time
that
I've
been
on
the
county
commission
and
so
when
we,
when
we
think
about,
like
you,
know
a
big
proposal
like
this.
A
I
agree
like
there's,
probably
going
to
need
to
be
a
couple
of
different
resources
to
draw
from
to
get
there,
and
even
if
some
of
them
are
not
recurring
funds,
I
think
they
could
still
be
very
helpful
in
terms
of
getting
us
going
in
this
direction
in
this
budget
cycle
and
probably
over
the
next
couple
of
budget
cycles,
you
know
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
we
did
when
we
did
our
last
tax
revaluation.
A
You
know
as
we
just
we
chose
consciously
not
to
do
a
revenue,
mutual
tax
rate
and
a
big
part
of
that
was
so
we
could,
you
know,
support
the
public
schools
when
you
look
at
the
growth
you
look
at
the
growth
of
the
counties
budget
over
the
last
five
or
ten
years.
Just
from
the
economy
growing
and
population
growth,
you
look
at
our
budget.
The
reality
is
the
vast
majority
of
that
growth
has
gone
to
increased
funding
for
public
schools.
A
Right
like
we
have
increased
funding
for
the
public
schools
at
a
rate
well
beyond
the
natural
rate
of
growth
of
county
funding
for
the
rest
of
our
organization
and
relative
to
the
economy
right.
So
so,
when
we.
A
A
lot
of
it
was
that
we
could
support
continue
to
support
increased
investments
for
the
public
schools,
but
one
of
the
things
we
said
to
the
community
is
that
we
are
going
to
try
very
hard
to
not
change
that
property
tax
rate
between
then
and
the
next
revaluation
period.
You
know
when
you
get
the
revaluation
period,
kind
of
kind
of
start
over,
like
you
know,
go
back
and
look
at
all
the
because
when
you
know
the
tax
rate
is
going
to
change
this,
you
know
it's
going
to
go
down.
A
A
I
think
that
is
what
we
are
trying
to
do
so
part
of
our
challenge
in
terms
of
looking
at
this
request
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
requests
too,
you
know
we
did
hearing
the
sheriff's,
you
know,
department
like
they
need
pay
raises
for
people
in
detention
center
in
other
places,
it's
very
compelling
so
and
for
our
own
county.
A
A
If
the
schools
do
have
resources
to
contribute
to
it
as
well,
even
though
we
would
acknowledge
it
after
some
period
of
time
it
would,
it
would
all
be
falling
on
the
county
shoulders.
So
I
would
just
I
would
just
kind
of
share
that
share
that
observation,
because
you
know
that
the
the
the
biggest
and
probably
most
frustrating
thing,
I
think
for
a
lot.
All
of
us
as
county
commissioners,
is
that
there's
all
these
compelling
needs
in
the
community,
but
really.
A
In
the
toolbox
we
have
a
revenue
source
is
to
if
we
want
to
raise
more
revenue
is
to
raise
the
property
tax
rate.
All
of
these
concerns
are
being
shared
today
are
all
about.
Can
regular
people
afford
to
live
in
this
community
right
and
that's
the
reason
you're
bringing
this
proposal
to
us
because
hey
it's
really
hard.
A
This
is
what
could
help,
but
if
we
go
and
just
raise
the
property
taxes
that
affects
the
affordability
of
being
able
to
live
in
this
community,
for
the
school
employees
and
for
everybody
in
the
community-
and
there
are
tens
of
thousands
of
other
people
who
work
full-time
who
are
in
the
same
financial
situation
or
or
more
modest
situations
than
our
public
schools.
So
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
we
don't
want
to
go
to
that.
A
If
we
don't,
we
can
avoid
it
because
it
it
runs
contrary
to
the
very
problem
we're
trying
to
solve,
making
sure
people
can
make
ends
meet
in
our
community.
So
other
questions
for
the
county,
schools.
F
Well,
a
bus
has
to
be
part.
What
that
administrator
then
turns
around
and
looks
at
is
the
current
routes,
and
do
we
pick
up?
Do
we
change
those
routes
to
pick
up
those
students
or
do
we
do
a
second
third
run?
I
mean
that's
pretty
typical.
I
say
that's
typical
across
the
state,
because
you
know
everybody's
facing
these.
These
challenges.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
I've
heard
from
constituents
in
my
current
district
too,
that
you
know
they've
been
called
mid-afternoon
that
your
child's
bus
isn't
going
to
run.
You've
got
an
hour
90
minutes
to
get
here
to
pick
them
up
and
have
expressed
a
lot
of
frustration
on
that
and
thinking
about
it
in
the
morning
too,
that
a
lot
of
times
parents
are
in
the
cars
on
their
way
to
school
are
on
their
way
to
their
jobs
and
their
children
are
being
picked
up.
So
that's
you
know
from
a
myriad
of
key
points.
F
I
think
inside
of
schools
we
have
thank
goodness.
We
have
staff
that
have
their
cells
that
are
willing
to
step
in
here
on
an
emergency
basis.
A
Yeah
I've
heard
from
principals
across
not
this
particular
area,
but
watauga
county
in
particular
getting
up
at
foreign
bus
routes
in
addition
to
their
own
responsibilities,
so
we
don't
have
to
get
there.
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
speculate
for
just
a
moment,
though.
On
the
leandro
case.
We
know
that
it's
in
the
hands
of
the
north
carolina
supreme
court.
A
Do
you
think
if
that
decision
is
made,
that
our
the
buncombe
county
schools
will
actually
benefit
from
some
of
those
decisions,
and
we
also
know
too
of
some
commissioner
rules
earlier,
that
the
governor
is
releasing
his
budget
sometime
tomorrow
afternoon.
We
know
that
governor
cooper
is
really
generous
towards
our
public
schools.
Typically
always
fully
funds
and
holy
funds
are
support.
Staff
too.
F
I'm
not
sure
about
the
governor's
budget,
but
I
will
say,
come
out
and
again
this
is
a
cloudy
crystal
ball
when
it
comes
to
leander.
I
do
believe
that
if
that
decisions,
the
decisions
come
out
of
leandro
case
that
they
could
have
a
significant
impact
on
every
one
of
the
115
school
systems
in
the
state.
Now
what
does
that
equate
to
dollars?
Otherwise,
I
don't
know
because
there's
a
number
of
various
directions.
They
could
go
with
the
formula
and
that
all
rests
in
the
court
and
I'm
certainly.
A
Not
equipped
right,
I
know,
and
I'm
asking
a
lot
of
you
on
that,
but
just
thinking
you
know
because
it
was
really
completely
the
lowest.
You
know.
Income
type,
school
districts
and
certainly
buncombe
county
asheville
city
doesn't
necessarily
fall
in
that,
but
just
thinking
about
what
that
could
potentially
look
like
in
our
decision
making.
So
for
those
folks
who
are
listening,
contact
your
state
representatives
and
focus
on
the
senate
house
appropriations
committee
as
we
move
forward
if
they
base
it
off
of
what
they.
A
That
they're,
giving
teachers
buncombe
county
and
actually
city
did
not
qualify.
So
if
they
follow
that
same
pattern,
we
would
not
get
it
done
with
it.
That's
helpful!
So
that's
a
really
important
point,
and,
and
I've
heard
that
they
may
be
looking
at
that
and
whether
to
expand
that
to
allow
us
to
be
able
to
utilize
it.
So
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
all
really
be
advocating
for
as
well,
because
that
would
certainly
make
a
difference
in
what
we're
able
to
do
here
locally.
C
A
A
A
F
And
there's
challenges
beyond
charter
schools.
We
are
in,
I
think,
the
third
highest
home
school
area
in
western
north
carolina
and
the
entire
state
that
goes
from
third
to
second,
but
then
in
public
victory
year,
plus
private
schools
through
covis.
That
was
one
of
the
key
drivers
in
terms
now
again,
the
positive
for
buncombe
county
schools
is
to
look
at,
and
I
think
we
shared
some
of
this
information
as
well.
When
we
get
our
capital
presentation,
we're
seeing
extremely
encouraging
numbers
for
rebounding
the
kindergarteners.
F
K
Well,
I
don't
really
have
a
question,
but
thank
you,
dr
bowen,
a
couple
things
just
wanna
say
is
you
know
a
lot
of
family
members
be
in
in
the
school
system
there
here
the
same
thing,
commissioner
wells
said
that
the
support
staff
they
are
the
ones
that
need
the
help
and
that's
what
everyone
across
you
know
the
20
and
25
year.
Teachers
are
saying
we
couldn't
do
it
without
them
and
during
the
cove
and
everything
assistance
was
a
lifesaver.
K
There
was
a
life
jacket
that
was
thrown
to
them
as
they
was
going
down
on
the
bus
driver's
end
with
a
couple
custodians
that
I
talked
to
regular
yeah
every
morning.
That's
a
big
issue
of
who's.
Gonna.
K
Take
this
bus
out,
and
I
know
myself
and
amanda
was
talking
during
the
break
about
we
don't,
but
we're
not
hearing
the
parents
really
say
a
whole
lot
about
it,
but
whenever
you
dive
in
deep
with
them,
you're
hearing
about
it
within
the
school
system,
just
like,
I
don't
think
we're
markham
county
is
as
vocal
as
the
city.
Schools
are
about
facebook
and
complaining
all
the
time.
K
You
know
it's
three
or
four
years
ago
myself,
mr
whiteside
and
late
mike
fryer.
We
sat
with
you
and
talked
about
the
increase
of
buncombe
county,
and
we
would
go
that
way.
A
lot
of
it.
Hadn't
changed
because
you're
still
late
with
the
state.
You
know
they
have
not
come
forward
soon
enough
to
let
you
know
what
you
actually
need.
I
mean:
do
you
see
that
the
state
is
gonna
probably
come
in
higher
than
what
you
think
of
your
proposal,
because
what
was
it?
K
A
couple
years
ago
chairman,
we
made
the
thing
that,
if,
if
you
don't
get
what
the
state
is
come
back
to
us
before
the
new
year
and
we'll
offset
try
to
help
with
whatever
that
was
two
or
three
years
ago.
L
A
J
F
Yeah,
I
think
the
answer
is
no,
but
that
said,
I
think
again.
Our
reputation
with
this
commission
is
we've
been
very
transparent
with
our
budget
and
we
greatly
appreciate
if
there's,
if,
if
there
are
adjustments
from
state
funds
coming
in
and
certainly
you
know
we're
going
to
be
open
and
say
look,
it
was
better.
F
The
answer
to
your
question
is:
is
no
we've
not
seen
that
the
13
is
a
good
example,
the
the
the
mandate
that
was
given
for
last
year,
we
made
adjustments
well
come
to
find
out.
The
state
never
truly
gave
the
full
dollar
figure
for
the
state
funded
employees
to
receive
the
13..
So
I'm
not
a
pessimistic
person,
but
I'm
thinking
an
honest
answer
to
you
to
that
question:
it's
not.
E
B
I
do
mention
one
of
the
slides
you
asked
for
4.9
million
or
so
to
put
back
on
balance,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
vacancies,
so
you
have
salaries
that
you're
not
using
this
vengeance.
When
you
send
us
further
information,
can
you
break
out
for
us
or
at
least
project
what
you're
going
to
use
in
fund
balance,
because
you
won't
need
to
hold
five
4.9
million?
If
you
have
all
these
vacancies.
B
D
L
A
L
A
D
A
A
Just
just
confirm
something:
you've
got
I'm
going
back
to
the
local
local
staff,
so
there's
3176
staff,
745
or
100
locally
paid
so
about
23
of
the
workforce
are
locally.
Our
local
staff
that
works
out
all
right
appreciate
you
all
very
much
great
job
and
look
forward
to
discussing
further
as
we
all
move
ahead
to
this
budget
process.
E
A
Second,
before
we
begin
I'd
also
like
to
say
thank
you
to
avril
and
her
entire
staff
avril
has
made
herself
available
to
our
admin
team
whenever
we
needed
advice,
particularly
ronnie
lunford,
also
for
helping
us
with
our
capital
projects,
he's
been
a
real
supportive
addition
when
we
need
to
help.
So
thank
you
april.
For
always
being
there,
we
asked
for
help.
B
A
Today,
I
get
to
have
the
opportunity
to
come
and
share
a
little
bit
more
about
what
the
sugar
family
looks
like
before.
Georgia
comes
and
presents
information
about
the
budget.
I
just
want
to
give
y'all
a
glimpse
into
what
makes
south
asheville
city
schools.
A
So
at
this
time,
asheville
city
schools
is
comprised
of
10
schools
and
we
have
about
4
300
students
pre-k
through
12th
grade,
as
well
as
nearly
700
staff
members,
and
that
does
include
our
full-time
and
our
part-time
staff.
Members
at
this
time
about
63
of
our
student
population
is
white
and
37
of
our
students
are
students
of
color,
with
both
black
and
latinx
being
our
two
highest
populations
for
our
students
of
color.
A
A
Our
child
nutrition
department
is
actively
we're
doing
quite
a
bit
of
marketing
and
working
on
how
we're
going
to
make
sure
that
our
families
are
applying
for
that
free
and
reduced
lunch
when
that
waiver
runs
out
at
the
end
of
the
school
year,
and
at
this
time
we
have
a
little
bit
more
than
13
of
our
students
receive
exceptional
children,
services.
A
So,
despite
the
fact
that
we've
been
living
in
a
pandemic
for
the
past
two
years,
we
have
had
some
success
with
successes
in
the
middle
of
covid
and
I'm
excited
to
share
a
little
bit
with
you
today.
A
One
particular
point
of
friend
I'm
pretty
excited
about
is
that
last
year's
class
of
2021
had
an
overall
graduation
rate
of
over
90
percent.
Asheville
high
school
was
at
more
than
88
and
for
silsa
it
was
at
more
than
95,
so
both
of
our
schools
were
above
the
state
average
of
87
and
again
in
the
midst
of
especially
our
class
of
2021.
A
They
had
a
third
of
their
high
school
career
was
in
the
midst
of
online
learning,
so
that
number
is
pretty
fantastic
and
also
I
just
wanted
to
extend
the
invitation
to
you
that
this
year's
graduating
class.
They
are
going
to
be
celebrated
on
june
9th
at
7
00
pm
and
I
may
be
a
little
biased,
but
I
would
say
that
our
high
school
graduation
is
in
the
most
beautiful
location.
A
It
is
on
national,
high
school
and
solstice
our
stadium,
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
very
exciting
opportunity
to
celebrate
the
class
of
2022
in
just
a
few
short
weeks.
A
So,
additionally,
thanks
to
the
community
impact
fund,
we
were
really
fortunate
for
asheville
high
school.
We
were
able
to
utilize
some
small
equipment
and
fencing
for
the
cte
greenhouse
and,
as
dr
baldwin
alluded
to,
we
have
had
some
delays
on
our
playground,
equipment
at
hall
fletcher,
but
again
through
the
community
impact
fund,
and
we
look
to
soon
be
getting
construction
on
having
an
enhanced
playground
at
hall.
Fletcher
elementary
school.
A
This
is
also
incredibly
exciting
because
of
local
funds
at
hall
fletcher
elementary
school.
We
are
really
fortunate
to
have
a
steam
lab
and
through
that
steam
lab
hall,
flesher
elementary
school
has
a
robotics
team
and
hall
fletcher's
robotics
team
were
not
only
state
champions,
but
they
were
invited
to
compete
in
the
world
championship
and
actually
right
now,
so
it
started
at
two
o'clock
hall.
Fletcher
elementary
school
is
at
the
world.
Competition
and
one
of
our
students
was
invited
to
represent
team
usa
as
part
of
the
parade
of
nations.
A
A
A
I
didn't
want
to
specifically
point
out
that
for
our
black
students,
the
national
city
schools,
we
were
incredibly
proud
that,
despite
all
the
challenges
that
they
were
facing,
our
black
students
met
growth
in
13
of
the
14
tested
areas,
and
that
is
a
significant
increase
from
the
last
full
year
that
we
did
actually
have
testing
data
where
they
met
growth
in
eight
of
the
14
tested
areas,
and
for
that
we
were
able
to
use
local
funds
allowed
us
to
address
this
learning
loss.
While
it
was
happening
to
really
decrease
it.
A
And
then
one
additional
point
of
grad
that
just
opened
last
month,
asheville
middle
school,
is
the
first
of
two
schools
within
the
county
to
implement
a
school-based
health
center
at
this
time,
and
it
is
currently
housed
on
asheville
middle
school's
campus
and
is
a
fully
functioning
health
clinic.
That
provides
a
variety
of
mental
health
and
physical
services
for
our
students
and
our
staff.
And
then
our
visual
official
hope
is
to
extend
it
to
all
of
asheville
city
schools,
families,
and
that
was
a
great
partnership
not
only
with
our
school
district,
but
also
buncombe.
A
County
schools,
buncombe
county
health
and
human
services
may
heck
as
well
as
united
way
and
really
the
whole
purpose
of
this
school-based
health
center,
and
we
do
fully
recognize
that
there
has
been
a
school-based
health
center
at
asheville
high
school
before
this
is
just
a
new
iteration
of
it.
But
this
school-based
health
center
really
does
have
an
emphasis
on
risk
reduction
and
we're
incredibly
fortunate
that
we
were
able
to
partner
with
so
many
wonderful
organizations
to
support
our
students
and
our
families
where
they
are,
and
that's
some
of
our
highlights.
E
L
So
we
did
not
provide
information
specifically
on
covet
funding,
but
since
duncan
county
gave
me
some
information,
I
wanted
to
run
through
some
numbers.
Our
we
received
the
same
type
of.
J
L
Of
coke
money,
our
three
main
ones
total
approximately
12
million,
and
we
use
those
of
course,
to
prepare,
prevent
and
respond
to
covet
many
of
the
same
ways
that
buncombe
county
schools
has,
of
course,
coveted
cleaning,
staffing
cover,
tracers
repair
and
maintenance,
specifically
for
hvac
and
summer
learning,
and
and
loss
prevention,
learning
loss
prevention.
L
We've
also
used
some
of
our
extra
funds
for
retention
bonuses
for
our
all
of
our
staff,
with
asheville
city
schools
and
currently
looking
at
recruitment
bonuses.
L
Some
of
the
same
information
you've
already
seen
the
legislative
salary
increase,
the
greater
of
25
2.5
or
minimum
15.
We
estimate
that
the
2.5
will
cost
us
approximately
690
000.
L
Of
course,
our
benefit
rates
have
already
been
presented
through
county
schools
and
then
also
estimated
cost
for
pre-k
from
local
funds.
Next
year,
we.
L
That
is
our
local.
A
J
A
L
B
L
So
two
important
parts
to
our
request
is
the
increase
from
the
10.62
percent
tax
rate
to
12
cents,
okay
and
then
six
hundred
dollars
to
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
dedicated
specifically
to
the
pre-k
program.
And
when
I
say
specifically
that
when
you're
asking
for
that
outside
of
the
local
general
fund,
that
is
percentage
share.
D
Receive
the
amount
to
cover
this
expense.
L
So
the
break
get
breakdown.
We
have.
We
anticipate
33
million
for
local
operation
next
year.
The
12
cent
tax
supplemental
tax
through
the
calculator
is
12
million.
D
A
This
600
000
on
pre-k.
This
is
a.
L
So
currently
we
anticipate
our
local
fund
to
have
an
expense
of
1.6
for
this
year's
pre-k.
That
is
above
and
beyond
what
our
pre-k
program
gets
from
head
start
and
nc
yeah.
L
So,
with
the
retirement
of
actual
primary
school,
which
housed
many
of
the
pre-k
programs,
the
board
has
elected
to
operate,
seven,
which
next
year
will
cost
us
anticipated.
J
L
L
Before
I
get
too
far
into
this,
the
the
board
has
asked
for
three
year
options
for
a
reduction
of
our
costs.
I
would
like
to
state
that
since
spring
of
2020
actual
city
schools
has
looked
at
central
office
staffing
and
through
attrition
by
the
end
of
this
year,
we
will
have.
We
will
have
a
total
of
approximately
1.2
million
dollars
in
a
reduction
of
central
office
salaries.
L
L
I
I
That
we
have
to
make
some
changes,
so
the
options
that
are
presented
here
are
a
framework
we,
as
you
all
know,
we
are
going
to
a
elected
board
as
of
december.
First,
we'll
have
40
board
members
going
from
five
to
seven
and
that
new
board
will
also
be
looking
at
these
numbers
and
these
recommendations
as
a
way
of
cost
savings
and
reduction
in
our
from
pulling
from
our
local
farms.
I
One
thing
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
other
people
understand
is
that,
as
georgia
said,
we
have
shaved
1.2
million
dollars
in
our
co
numbers.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
that
our
central
office
staff
is
not
just
gene
and
dr
freeman
and
the
other
upper
echelon.
If
you
want
to
call
it
that.
G
I
It's
also
our
transportation
department,
which
is
housed
it.
It's
our
custodians,
it's
our
admin
assistants.
So
when
we
say
that
our
numbers,
that
you
know
we
all
we
keep
hearing
and
dr
baldwin
said
it
as
well,
that
central
office
is
kind
of
bloated,
we're
at
50
staff
or
so
right
now
and
that
counts
everybody
that
works.
So
it's
not
just
just
those
who
are
making
the
big
salaries.
I
Have
gone
with
this
basic
version
because,
frankly,
as
we
get
into
the
new
again
with
the
new
board,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
opportunity
to
add
to
this
list
as
well.
So
this
is
again
it's
a
framework
and
I'm
not.
I
I
have
no
idea
who
will
be
chair
after
december
or
the
first
meeting
in
december,
but
I
know
as
a
board
that
this
is
something
that
georgia
has
brought
to
us
to
show
us
what
we
can
do
in
terms
of
reduction
to
get
out
of
our
local
funds.
I
I'm
going
to
let
either
one
of
these
two
people
on
the
other
side
of
me.
Respond
to
that
one.
Do
you
want
to
be
on
it?
I
would.
C
A
No,
you
know,
I
think,
of
this
budget,
like
my
house
budget
and
if
you've
got
more
going
out,
then
you've
got
coming
in.
You
need
to
start
doing
some
things
right
away.
I
really
appreciate
what
mr
presley
said:
we're
under
social
media
all
the
time
about
any
move.
There's
a
lot
of
pressure
about
anything-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
why
there's
been
some
hesitation
or
not.
A
I
was
interesting
to
hear
buncombe
county
and
god
bless
them
they're
in
kind
of
the
same
position
that
we're
and
other
districts
are
too,
but
no.
We
need
to
start
making
some
tough
decisions,
and
these
are
really
hard
decisions,
because
there
are
two
areas
from
my
point
of
view
that
you
can
make
reductions
in
substantial
reductions,
and
that
would
be
your
people,
your
human
human
resource
capital
and
from
a
building
perspective,
and
you
know,
there's
only
so
much
consolidation
of
buildings
you
can
do.
D
F
It's
going
to
be
hard
and
I
think
we
have.
A
Done
some
things
that
we
could
do
like
not
replacing
central
office
folks
and
a
million
two
substantial
and
there
have
been
other
some
other
savings,
but
I
think
you
know
in
the
midst
of
this,
you
also
have
to
understand
we're
an
urban
school
district.
I
think
people
forget
it.
We
have
an
urban
setting
and
a
lot
of
our
kids.
We
have
nine
out
of
the
ten
if
I'm
not
mistaking
housing
developments
and.
A
With
particular
problems,
like
all
kids
do
and
we
have
some
problems
that
aren't
exhibited
in
every
other
school
district,
but
there
again
we
need
to
make
hard
decisions
and
it's
hard.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
they
are
really
difficult
and
I
don't
mention
you
all,
but
I
just
wanted
to
have
girl's
opinion
on
how
much.
G
A
D
A
Public
school
systems
are
like
family
homes,
in
terms
of
budgeting
and,
and
I
think,
there's
arguments
to
be
made
that
there
are
times
when,
if
a
public
institution
that
serves
a
vital,
non-negotiable
role
in
our
community
is
in
true
crisis.
A
The
best
way
for
it
is
not
cutting
things
that
are
actually
essential
to
how
we
serve
our
kids
like
pre-k.
But
the
path
forward
is
to
just
have
a
really
fair-sided
discussion
around
what
the
numbers
need
to
be
for
sort
of
the
bailout
and
what
the
numbers
can
look
like
year
by
year,
as
we
move
forward.
So.
J
K
A
There's,
I
think,
there's
a
distinction
to
be
made
between
budget
reductions
which
are
based
on
achieving
efficiencies
and
consolidating
facilities
that
may
be
underutilized
and
streamlining
operations
or
right-sizing
staffing,
based
on
the
fact
that
numbers
are
going
down.
That
feels
like
one
category
of
budget
reduction
that
seems
physically
healthy
and
sound
and
serves
the
interests
of.
D
The
children
but.
A
There's
another
category
of
budget
cuts
that
to
me
feel,
like
they
kind
of
strike
a
blow
to
the
heart
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
as
a
community
in
terms
of
addressing
the
equity
gap.
We
know
is
there,
so
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
those
thoughts
on
the
table
as
we
move
forward
in
this
discussion-
and
I
I
know
you
all-
are
under
considerable
pressure
coming
from
many
different
directions
and
that's
a
hard
position
to
be
in.
A
But
what
I
hope
most
is
that
we
can
have
as
honest
a
discussion
as
possible
roll
around
what
the
numbers
are
and
what
the
choice
points
are
relative
to
those
numbers,
and
I
one
would
request
sort
of
a
greater
level
of
detail
around
different
scenarios
like
this,
so
that
we
could
dig
into
those.
And
you
know
I've
been
pretty
clear
about
my
strongly
held
position
that
the
last
thing
we
should
be
doing
right
now
is
cutting
access
to
quality,
early
child
education
and
pre-k.
A
If
we,
if
we
want
to
be
serious
about
the
opportunity,
achievement
gap
in
the
years
ahead,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
share
some
of
those
thoughts
which
I
and
I
hope
within
that
you
will
hear
a
spirit
of
collaboration,
and
this
is
not
a
problem
that
you
all
need
to
or
can
solve
alone
it's
a
community-wide
process
that
needs
to
happen,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
few
forums
in
which
we
have
multiple
bodies
meeting
to
discuss
this
and
and
really
kind
of
dig
into
this
together,
and
we
can
do
it
not
over
social
media
and
not,
but
actually
do
it
in
person,
so
just
kind
of
wanted
to
share
some
of
that.
A
A
A
A
A
A
And
different
communities
approach
it
in
different
ways.
I
think
all
options
need
to
be
on
the
table.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
the
question
of
how
the
supplemental
tax
gets
used
needs
to
be
on
the
table
and
sort
of
really
clearly
understanding
that
I
think
to
its
great
credit
for
decades
after
city
schools,
prioritize
pre-k,
because
it
is
so
critically
important
and
distinguished
itself
as
a
school
system.
That
was
ready
to
do
that.
So
I
think
those
are
absolutely
conversations
we
should
be
having.
A
I
want
to
follow
up
on
that.
I'm
really
curious
because
I
mean
I
know
you
don't
notice,
but
I
worked
at
early
childhood
early
literacy,
adult
literacy
for
a
number
of
years,
and
and
so
I
understand
the
benefit
of
pre-k.
Let
me
first
say
that
I'm
really
curious,
though,
if
there
is
data
on
actual
city,
school
students
who
attended
asheville
city,
schools,
pre-k
programs
and
what
their
current
test
scores
proficiency
versus
growth
looks
like
to
really
look
at.
A
A
Yes,
for
now
I
want
to
keep
asking
questions,
but
I
guess
I
wanted
to
just
pass
it
more
broadly.
If
you
can
elaborate
on
any
more
of
these
these
options.
You
know
this
is
our
our
main
before
this
meeting.
Our
main
ask
give
you
so
I
really
appreciate
seeing
this.
I
guess
we
could
elaborate
on
any
of
these
categories,
perhaps
give
some
examples
of
these
kind
of
things.
I
know
you
don't
want
to
give
out
a
plan
of
what
the
community
might
think,
but
I
love
your
skills.
A
I
think
we
have
to
analyze
every
position
as
it
comes
open,
especially
through
attrition
that
can
we,
as
we've
done
at
central
office,
can
we
put
those
responsibilities
on
another
person,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
analyze
every
position
that
comes
up
and
have
conversation
about
it.
I
don't
know
if
that
helps.
E
A
A
Now,
I
don't
think
so
I
mean
you
do
have
space
in
the
middle
school.
There
are
12
to
14
empty
rooms.
I
don't
know
if
we
could
use
those
somewhere.
Somehow,
as
I
said
earlier,
consolidation
is
very
limited,
but
we
do
have
schools
that
have
about
60
capacity,
but
the
major
area
that
we
could
reduce
is
going
to
have
to
be
staff.
A
If
we,
if
you
look
at
the
dollar
amount,
I'm
not
suggesting
we
should
there's
just
so
many
places,
trimming
budgets
five
thousand
here
or
ten.
That
is
not
going
to
get
us
where
we
need
to
be
so.
The
staffing
is
just
a
huge
issue,
especially
with
those,
because
the
vast
majority
of
our
staff
connect
with
children
and
that's
very
problematic.
When
you
start
saying,
can
we
reduce
these
numbers.
A
Agree
there
needs
to
be.
You
know
it
needs
to
be
more
detailed,
and
I
think
that
I
mean
the
way
I've
proven
it
is.
A
Revenue
I
mean
for
all
the
challenges
we
see
in
the
economy.
Like
you
know,
sales.
D
A
Way
so
you
know,
and
we
can
talk
about
changing,
you
know
changing
tax
rates
too,
but
I
think
part
of
our
part
of
our
you
know
challenges
is
we
don't
feel
like?
You
know
that
solving
all
of
the
challenges
facing
the
city
schools
should
be
done
simply
by
increasing
taxes
on
the
families
who
live
in
nashville,
because
we
know,
as
we
talked
about
earlier,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
pretty
regressive
tax.
It
hurts
not
just
the
tax
on
the
wealthy
attacks
on
the
affluent
raising
the
property.
A
Taxes
directly
goes
to
the
ability
of
just
regular
people
to
continue
to
afford
to
live
in
this
community.
It's
already
really
challenging.
These
are
things
we
all
know.
So
that's
that's
a
big
part
of
our
reticence
about
going
to
that
revenue
source,
especially
if
we
feel
like
we
haven't.
You
know
really
been
shown
well
like.
Well,
what
are
the
other
options?
You
know,
what
are
what
would
it
look
like?
You
know.
A
A
Maybe
that
would
be
the
conclusion,
but
in
in
the
absence
of
seeing
different
ideas
for
how
we
can,
we
can
address
these
issues,
not
just
in
this
budget
cycle,
but
over
a
series
of
budget
sectors,
because
we
can't
fix
all
these
things
in
just
one
one
year,
one
way
or
the
other
so,
but
I
would
still
you
know,
for
myself
really
appreciate
just
differently
just
different
ideas
for
how
to
go
about
that.
I
know
none
of
them
are
are
things
that
necessarily
industry
want
to
see
happen.
But
what
are?
A
What
are
the
different
ideas,
because
just
just
raising
the
tax
rate,
the
property
tax
rate
should
not
be
our
only
guarantee
solution
on
this
and.
A
Know
that,
but
I
mean
these
top
line,
numbers
are
interesting
to
see,
but
just
you
know
you
know.
What
would
that
mean?
Are
there
ways
to
you
know?
Are
there
ways
to
pursue
these
kinds
of
outcomes
in
ways
that,
to
the
largest
extent
possible,
to
protect
the
classrooms?
Of
course
that's
what
everyone's
goal
would
be,
but
again
without
kind
of
seeing
a
bit
more
detail
around
what
that
would
look
like.
A
I
don't
know
how
possible
and
realistic
that
that
is,
and
also
just
you
know,
a
bit
more
like
a
kind
of
a
description
around
kind
of
like
the
the
diagnosis
of
the
kind
of
financial
like.
A
Where
do
we
need
to
get
to
be
financially
to
be
on
the
sound
financial
putting
like
like
in
terms
of
like
the
amount
that
the
district
is
currently
has
been
seeing
in
terms
of
you
know,
spending
down
fund
balance
over
the
last
few
years,
like
I
mean
how
big
of
a
turnaround
there
is
needed
either
through
a
combination
of
you,
know,
trimming
expenses
or
bringing
in
new
revenue.
A
That's
like
that's
some
kind
of
analysis.
That
would
be
really
helpful
to
hear
too
so
we
kind
of
have
a
sense
for
how
far
it
needs
to
get
over.
You
know
the
next
couple
of
years
and
and
how
much
that
we
probably
need
to
make
sure
we're
figuring
out
together
as
the
first
step
of
that
in
this
year's
budget.
So
those
are
those
are
just
kind
of
some
more
of
the
kind
of
more
details
around
this.
How
I
think
about
some
of
those
questions.
C
B
J
You
should
have
one
of
your
last
pages.
The.
C
C
I
mean
I
don't,
but
we've
got
to
us
here
in
the
community,
the
people
all
of
us
hear
the
complaints
from
the
parents
and
all
then
I
spent
from
12
to
two
yesterday
at
asheville,
high
speaking
to
seniors,
and
I
see
the
kids
who
been
affected,
but
they're
sharp,
the
ones
I
talk
to
and
the
graduates,
but
we've
got
to
you
all,
cannot
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road.
I
agree
with
bob
brown.
I
mean
it's
a
crying
shame
to
where
we
are
now
with
our
city.
School
system.
C
It
for
years
have
been
one
of
the
around
the
state.
Everybody
looked
at
asheville
city
schools.
Now,
when
I
travel
around
the
state,
everybody
asks
me
what's
going
on,
but
please
we've
got
staff.
We've
got
the
people
who
can
help
you,
but
it's
going
to
take
you
to
make
those
steps
to
come
to
us
to
ask
for
them,
and
I
don't
feel
that
I
haven't
seen
it
and
maybe
other
commissioners
have
or
people
in
the
community,
but
please
we
need
to
write
this
and
folks
are
serious.
We
can't
wait
on
a
new
school
boat.
C
I
I
appreciate
that
commissioner
white
side
thing.
We
do
all
know
on
board
that
we
do
have
judiciary
responsibility.
No
one
on
our
board
is
laying
down
on
anything
right
now.
We
are.
We
know
that
we're
in
a
tough
situation,
but,
like
you
said
we
were
a
jewel
in
the
mountains.
We
can
be
at
julian
mountains
again,
it's
not
too
far
away
from
us,
but
we
do
need
to
have
some
help
as
well.
I
I
G
A
L
So,
prior
to
dr
freeman
and
I
coming,
there
was
a
similar
salary
study
done
with
asheville
city
schools
and
the
fall
of
2020.
It
was
that
was
implemented.
D
L
L
Our
local
supplement
is
one
of
the
higher
ones
in
the
state.
It
ranges
from
nine
percent
to
sixteen
and
a
half
percent
depending
on
the
years
of
service,
and
that
is
for
all
employees,
not
not
just
teachers,
but
also.
L
This
year
we
will
be
following
the
same
statement
that
state
mandated
increase
for
all
employees,
2.5
percent
say
25
is
2.5,
which
does
affect
the
amount
of
local
supplement
that
each
individual
gets
salary
goes
up,
the
local
supplement
amount
increases
the
is
said,
but.
A
Just
while
we
have
everyone
together,
so
what
what
is
I
mean
if
you
describe
like
in
terms.
G
A
A
A
I
A
C
A
A
They
requested
7.7
million
that
meets
the
6.22
that
we
budgeted
as
the
unrestricted
revenue
rate
and
listed
below
that
table
are
some
of
the
highlights
of
their
requests
the
k-12
requests.
This
is
where,
in
terms
of
review,
it
gets
slightly
more
complicated,
but
you
have
the
buncombe
county
schools
request:
23.9
million
for
a
total
local
support,
request
of
97.1
million
and
for
asheville
city
schools.
A
The
pieces,
including
the
tax
rate
increase
of
1.38
10.62
to
12
cents,
is
a
total
local
support
request
of
33.2
million,
so
we
will
show
momentarily
the
differences
commissioner,
white's
house
is
pointing
to
between
whether
or
not
you
factor
that
tax
rate
increase
in
the
request
for
global
support,
but
before
I
leave
this
slide,
the
thing
that
I
want
to
emphasize
is
that
appropriations
must
be
apportioned
by
the
membership
of
each
unit
found
by
statute,
for
that
it
just
ensures
that
we
cannot
give
one
district
an
amount
without
giving
the
per
people
equivalent
to
the
other.
A
So,
looking
at
that,
asheville
city
schools
request
we're
kind
of
going
to
back
into
what
those
amounts
will
look
like
and
what
that
means
the
overall
budget
request.
So,
with
the
existing
rate,
we
have
the
left,
column
or
middle
column,
10.62
percent
and,
in
the
right
hand,
side
the
request
rate
12
cents
under
each
one.
A
We
have
the
total
supplemental
tax
support,
16.2
million
at
current
rate
17.7
at
the
request
rate,
if
you
do
the
math,
that
is
just
calculate
the
difference,
you
end
up
with
a
range
between
17
million
and
15
and
a
half
million,
and
it's
those
numbers
that
we're
going
to
carry
on
to
our
full
summary
table.
Our
next
slide
here,
so
we're
going
to
build
this
out
so
that
it
makes
a
little
more
sense.
You've
got
the
current
amount.
This
is
what's
in
the
current
year's
budget,
87.3
million.
A
We
have
that
estimated
adm
split
that
we
spoke
about
before
and
how
that's
going
to
affect
us
here.
That's
going
to
determine
the
total
amount
that
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
so
the
unrestricted
revenue
rate.
That
is
what
is
currently
in
the
second
pass
budget.
We
have
a
total
of
92.7
million,
that
is
an
increase
of
5.4
million.
A
If
we
look
at
the
bcs
request
of
97.1
million,
we
back
that
look
at
the
equivalent
115.2
million
total,
that's
an
increase
of
27.9
million
or
roughly
22
and
a
half
increase
over
what
is
currently
in
the
second
pass
budget
and
then
for
acs.
We
have
the
amount
with
the
tax
increase,
it's
15
and
a
half
million
doing
the
math
there.
B
The
commissioners,
the
first
column,
is
what's
in
our
budget
today,
so
anything's
broke
from
that,
so
asheville
city
schools
currently
have
14.2
million
in
our
budget.
When
we
started
a
year,
we
looked
at
our
unrestricted
revenues
and
we
had
agreed.
Commissioner
presley
talked
about
this
earlier.
We
had
agreed
that
we
look
at
our
growth
rate
as
our
starting
point:
the
school's
discussion
that
growth
rate
of
6.2
would
equal,
92
million
or
5.4
million
dollars
in
actual
cash
14.6,
the
asheville
city,
schools
and
78.2
debunking
counties,
and
that's
we
share
that
data
with
them.
B
In
march
they
worked
on
their
budget
and
they
came
back
to
us
last
week.
I
believe
friday.
We
got
the
numbers
from
bumpkin
county
schools
and
they're
asking
for
that
97
million
instead
of
73,
where
they
are
today
or
78,
which
is
what
we
have
program
in
our
budget.
The
97.1
that
you
heard
about
today.
If
we
give
them
97.1
based
on
the
adm
shared
at
15
asheville
city
schools
would
get
18
million
point.
One
dollars
would
be
their
new
rate
or
a
four
million
dollar
increase.
B
So
that's
one
way
to
look
at
if
you
fully
fund
bunking
county's
requests
from
today,
the
the
proportion
of
curators
city
schools
will
be
18.1,
so
that
is
one
benchmark
to
think
about.
Then
you
go
to
the
next
slot.
The
next
column,
which
is
actual
city
schools,
request
they're,
requesting
that
1.38
tax
increase.
B
If
we
fund
that
what
they
need
from
us
is
15.5
million,
that's
that's.
The
cash
out
of
the
general
fund,
plus
they'll
get
their
great
increase
on
the
tax.
If
we
use
that
formula,
then
the
proportion
here
to
baltimore
county
is
supposed
to
be
83
million,
because
we
still
have
to
look
at
the
proportional
rate
and
if
you
look
at
the
national
city,
schools
request
without
the
tax
increase
they're
asking
for
17
million.
So
if
we
use
that
as
our
we
start
from
17
the
proportions
here,
the
bulk
of
canvas
will
be
90.9.
B
So
those
are
the
different
scenarios
that
you
have
in
front
there.
All
scenarios
are
the
same:
fully
fund
welcome
county,
fully
fund
asheville
with
a
weight
ball
with
boundary.
We
have
not
talked
yet
about
what
that
collaboration
could
look
like
if
we
go
back
and
meet
with
them
to
come
up
with
a
recommended
budget.
A
That
I
would
really
appreciate
more
information
on
is
that
I
think,
between
the
two
districts
about
the
60
plus
million
dollars
in
code
and
funding
that
needs
to
be
expended
by
2024,
and
I
think
this
kind
of
picks
up
on
the
point
that
you
made,
which
is
that
hearing
some
very
specific
strategies
around
how
that
funding
can
be
deployed
within
the
guidelines,
of
course,
but
to
address
budgetary
priorities
at
both
systems
and
help
perhaps
offset
some
of
the
local
tax
dollars
that
are
that
are
being
requested.
C
A
Pay
increases
across
the
board,
so
okay
with
each
of
these
stories
is
so
more
I'm
sure
I'm
not
more
complicated
than
that,
but,
like
I'm.
E
A
The
specific
requirements
of
their
answer,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
that
right
because
there's
yeah
it's
a
huge
amount
of
money
and
if
there's
the
ability
I
mean
they're,
coming
just
with
this
huge
ass
they're
sitting
on
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
like
well
there's
going
to
be
a
negotiation
here
right.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
what's
on
the
table,
to
discuss
in
terms
of
what
they
can
contribute
and
what
we
you
know.
We
know
how
we
contribute,
but
and
what.
B
A
Today,
in
the
city
school
board,
sorry
the
county
school
board
meeting
last
week-
I
mean
their
consultants
specifically
suggested
phasing
this
in
over
a
period
of
years
and
that
the
county
would
contribute
significantly
towards
implementing
this
this
year
and
next
year
in
particular,
so
that
was
their
own
consultant's
recommendation.
So
again,
I'm
not
sure
all
of
the
details
of
which
resources
they
were
thinking
of.
A
It's
that's
response
or
and
when
they
talk
about
phasing
it
in,
if
it
means
phasing
in
the
pay
raises
over
a
number
of
years
or
means
phasing
in
you
know
how
much
the
county
is
contributing
to
those
pay
raises
versus
a
combination
of
county
and
county
schools,
for
example.
But
those
are
all
things
that
were
you
know
yes
identified.
A
A
I
think
it's
something
that
was
stated
today,
I'd
like
to
know
just
how
big
of
a
situation
that
is.
A
B
A
I
mean,
I
think,
the
I
think
that
goals
they
identify
are
very
compelling,
and
I
mean
I
think
the
years
you
know
we
have.
We
have,
I
think,
really
prioritized
funding
for
the
school.
A
lot
of
that
has
gone
to
teachers
right
I
mean
for
good
reason.
It's
like
the
number
one
predictor
of
how
successful
the
classroom
is
going
to
be
is
the
qualities
of
the
future
in
the
classroom.
So,
like
you
know,
supporting
that
has
been
has
been.
I
think
the
right
priority,
but
that's
the
school's.
A
A
A
In
terms
of
the
requested
tax
increase
that
the
city
schools,
I
mean
brownie,
I
share
your
just
overall
cautiousness
proceeding
with
any
tax
increase
and
I
think
to
feel
even
equipped
to
have
that
conversation.
I
would
just
request
to
see
a
lot
more
detail
about
sort
of
a
multi-year
plan
on.
A
Would
be
how
it
would
be
put
to
work
through
sort
of
this
recovery
and
stabilization
process.
So
so
I
just
feel
like
we.
I
would
want
significantly
more
detail
than
we
have
right
now
to
understand
sort
of.
A
A
How
much
I
agree
and
how
much
does
the?
How
much
just
does
just
the
changing
the
supplemental
tax
rate?
How
much
revenue
does
that
produce
the
property
taxes
itself
and
the
leverage
sales
tax?
So.
C
A
A
Fund
for
the
county
schools
that
we're
gonna
fund
the
city
schools
at
the
same
level
per
student
right,
we
have
a
mechanism
for
investing
in
pre-k,
which
is
the
early
childhood
education
fund
and
any
organization
can
apply
there.
But
that
would
I
mean
that
that's
the
mechanism
for
us
to
make
decisions
about
specific
funding
for
pre-k
and
early
childhood
outside
of
the
public
schools
general
funding.
A
F
We
did
research
back
during
the
early
part
of
early
childhood
committee
meetings
in
the
winter
and
I
got
in
the
back
and
also
consulted
with
the
school
board's
attorneys
to
see
if
they
had
a
different
view
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
same
page
but
115c,
429
and
430
after
you
get
through
the
adm
and
the
distributions.
Equally,
then,
there
is
a
mechanism
to
directly
fund
early
childhood.
A
Have
approached
the
school
system
like
we
do
other
providers
who
say
we
have
a
program.
This
is
what
we
invest
in
the
program
annually
and
we're
requesting
this
amount
from
the
county
to
grow
and
expand
those
services,
and
that's
the
that's
the
premise
for
all
the
early
child
education
funding
that
we
currently
do.
A
The
long-term
sustainability
of
education
funding,
one
thing
that
would
help
me
is
to
understand
right
because
we've
got
that
unrestricted
growth
that
you
look
at,
but
but
really
digging
in
and
trying
to
understand,
going
forward.
These
guys
like
how
far
how
much
in
addition
can
we
do
to
that
and
be
sustainable
to
where
we
don't
start
cutting
in
to
other
county
services?
D
A
And
if
you
have
any,
you
know
any
recommendations
or
anything
make
improvements
to
this.
A
County
but
across
the
58
community
colleges,
and
I
I'm
leaving
here
a
little
saddened,
knowing
that
community
college
employees
across
clumping
county
having
the
exact
same
hiring,
challenges,
are
not
asking
now
for
exactly
what
they
need
versus
our
2k12
school
districts.
And
I
find
that
a
bit
heartbreaking
this
afternoon.
A
A
G
A
So,
but
do
you
have
a
sense
for
what
we
could
do
from
our
end
regarding
these
requests
consistent
with
trying
to
maintain
that
goal,
or
do
you
all
need
a
little
more
time
to
look
at
that
and
and
think
that
through
over?
Because
that's
that's
a
that's
like
a
question
about
this
year
and
next
year,
I'm
sure
we
can
figure
out
a
way
to
make
it
work
this
year,
but
we
might
be
setting
ourselves
up
for
what
we
don't
want
to
do
next
year.
B
Like
a
couple
more
days,
at
least,
I
would
love
to
have
a
conversation
again
with
tony
and
his
team
as
well
as
gene.
I
want
to
say
dr
freeman,
but
dr
ball,
with
the
doc
freeman
and
their
team
again
to
make
sure
we
don't
harm
and
if
the
state
has
given
us
a
mandate,
and
we
know
we
have
to
follow
that,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
what
does
that
look
like
for
locally
funded
as
well
as
state
fortune?
That's
going
to
become.
B
A
B
And
we
don't
have
an
answer,
but
if
you
look
at
actual
city
schools
presentation
that
last
sheet,
they
gave
you
they
showed
you
what
percent
of
their
funds
they
transfer
to
charter
school
and
they're,
projecting
currently
they're
doing
1.6
million
of
the
funding
that
we
give
them
to
charter
schools
and
next
year's
budget
requests,
assuming
they
get
the
full
funding
to
be
1.7
close
to
1.8
of
their
funds
that
they
need
to
send.
So
I
think
that
sounds
similar
to
what
welcome.
Can
yes,
the
very
last
double.
A
And
so
this
year's
first
year
for
peak
academy
rolling
one
it's
first
class
right
so
next
year,
there'll
be
another
class.
Do
we
have
maybe
like
this,
or
does
anybody
have
information
on
how?
How
large
is
each
of
those
expected
classes
to
be
in
terms
of
number
of
students
enrolling
just
like
each
year
over
the
next
couple
of
years?
Do
you
know
that.
A
I
would
be
curious
to
know
about
that
because
part
of
I
mean
the
city.
Schools
are
talking
about
some
different
things
to
raise
revenue
or
tied
up
financially,
but
that
is
going
to
be
one
factor
that
is
going
to
work
against
their
budget
right
because
it's
going
to
a
lot
of
the
students
that'll
go,
there
would
have
otherwise
gone
city
school,
not
exclusively.
That
would
be,
I
don't
know
high
school
district,
but
it's,
but
you
know.
A
A
G
A
You
know,
like
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
they
need
to
be
talking
to
us
about,
like
you
know,
what's
the
what's,
what's
the
forecast,
because
I
think
part
of
concern
is
like
we
could
raise
the
tax
rate
and
they're
still
in
the
same
position
they're
in
now
in
two
or
three
years
from
now,
and
to
that
point
I
mean-
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
received
these
mouth,
but
I
do
receive
emails
from
folks
thinking
that
they
can
solve
it
by.
A
I
don't
know
taking
in
some
of
the
students
increasing
the
district
for
actual
city,
but
the
reality
is,
it's
still
the
same
amount
of
state
funding
that
is
coming
here,
and
so
it
doesn't
serve
any
purposes.
I
mean
those
students,
this
falcon
county
are
actual
city
they're,
still
all
the
students
within
our
county
right
that
we're
supporting
through
their
state
fund.
So
the
last
thing
I
want
to
see
is
getting
this
kind
of
competition.
A
So
I
think,
that's
important
if,
when
you're
talking
find
out
those
kind
of
details
too
to
me,
that
does
not
seem
like
a
good
strategy,
because
then
that
just
hurts
the
other
school
district
well
and
at
the
last,
not
yesterday
with
the
previous
acs
school
board,
meeting
tina
brische
presented
on
the
number
of
out-of-district
requests
and
she
said
that
all
of
them
were
filled
but
poor.
So
it
wasn't
this
exorbitant
amount
of
students
that
are
wanting
to
leave
another
school
district
and
come
in.
A
So
it
really
spoke
to
the
fact
that
it
isn't
sustainable
and
it
isn't
going
to
solve
the
problem.
But
I
thought
that
four
was
a
really
interesting
number
because
of
those
emails
that
we
received
sure
well.
Thank
you.
D
This
e-school's
budget
issues,
which
is,
I
don't
think,
we've
asked
it.
A
Would
be
off
the
table
and
cutting,
and
we
could
distinguish
between
right
sizing
staff
for
the
current
enrollment
size
versus
cutting
staff
positions
that
might
actually
be
essential
and
that
those
are
the
like.
That's
the
I'm
not
going
to
say
any
numbers
out
loud,
but
to
me
that's
the
question
that
drives
all
of
this
is,
or
at
least
would
help
me
understand
it
over.
A
A
G
G
A
Okay
and
right
size,
I
think
the
distinction
that
I
want
us
to
be
able
to
draw
is
between
right
sizing
versus
cutting
essential
programs,
and
these
are
two
very
different
ways
to
reduce
the
budget,
but
in
both
of
those
areas
I
mean
again
the
fact
that
there
was
just
like
one
powerpoint
slide
on
this.
We
don't
haven't
been,
they
haven't
described.
A
What
are
the
options
for
right
sizing?
What
are
the?
What
are
what
are?
What's
the?
What
are
the
list
of
things
that
could
be
done
to
address
the
fiscal
imbalance
the
school
district
has,
and
maybe
some
of
them
I
mean
they,
I'm
glad
to
hear
about
some
of
the
things
they've
been
able
to
do
to
reduce
the
overhead
in
the
central
office.
Great.
Are
there
any
more
like?
Have
you
have
you?
Have
you
found
all
the
savings
there
right
like?
A
A
I
think,
ease
the
fears
of
these
are
just
ideas.
I
think
what
is
happening
and
I
think
the
emails
that
we
receive
speak
to
it
is
anytime.
Any
one
solution
or
idea
is
brought
forward.
The
emails
start
coming,
and
so
I
think
it
creates
a
fear
within
the
central
office
and
the
school
board
to
have
to
really
put
some
of
those
decisions
out.
So
I
would
be
interested
in
how
we
can
help
just
say:
you
know
we're
looking
at
all
options.
A
E
A
A
One
of
these
drivers
is
like
is
the
percentage
of
staff
that
are
looking
to
have
right
and
last
year,
the
county
staff
kind
of
did
that
evaluation
of
the
city,
schools
and
the
county,
schools,
percentage
of
local
staff,
percentage
of
staff,
their
locally
paid
versus
state
paid
and
then
looked
at
four
or
five
other
school
districts
across
the
state
that
are,
you
know
similar
to
us,
and
it
would
be
interesting
to
look
at
that
again
if
I
can
find
that
that
was,
that
was
great,
a
great
set
of
metrics
and
my
high
level
memory
of
that
is
that
they
were
both
higher
than
most
districts.
A
Even
the
county
schools
were
higher
than
most
the
city.
Schools
were
the
highest
we
stopped
by
by
a
lot.
A
So
just
you
know
when
I
think
about
the
two
or
three
year
option
I
mean
part
of
it
would
be
if
the
current
ratio
is
34
between
now
and
three
years
from
now,
could
you
go
from
34
to
30?
I
mean
that
may
not
sound
like
a
huge
change,
but
from
a
budgetary
standpoint
it
would
be.
It
would
make
a
big
difference,
and
so
even
just
things
like
that
to
understand
the
fundamental
drivers
that
potentially
be
used
to.
A
You
know
to
get
district
where
they
need
to
go.
B
A
Agree,
I
think
some
of
them
were.
Some
of
them
were
more
rural
and
they
were,
I
mean
they
they're
more
world
schools
they
just
like.
Don't
even
have
those
like
staff
or
just
a
very
small
small
number.
They
basically
just
run
the
school
with
the
the
funds
that
they
provide
right.
So
if
we,
if
you
want
to
update
that
with
a
few
other
comparisons
dude
that
would
be
interesting
to
see
all
right.
What
else
do
we
need
to
review
and
get
the
presentation
pulled
back
up.
I
A
I
A
Have
a
placeholder
for
an
arts
and
culture
grant
as
discussed
earlier
at
50
cents
per
capita
conservation.
Easements
remains
black
for
fiscal
year.
23.
early
childhood
education
receives
2
annual
increase
economic
development.
Incentives
are
increased
by
590
000
education.
Special
projects
remain
flat.
A
Homeowner
assistance
grants
are
funded
at
300
000
level.
We
have
set
aside
two
million
dollars
to
fund
reparations
strategic
partnership
grants
have
a
modest
increase
around
that
grant
awards.
We've
received
two
additional
requests
incorporated
into
the
budget.
Commissioner
sloan
has
asked
for
75
000
to
be
allocated
to
a
program
to
serve
low-income
residents
who
require
septic
repair
to
ensure
waterfall.
J
C
H
Ago
there
was
a
program
called
wade
that
the
state
had
to
be
eq.
Would
they
would
proactively
go
out
and
communicate
with
these
types
of
you
know,
unrepaired
second
systems
that
were
leaking
waterways
yeah
at
a
minimum.
You
can
accept
a
program
that.
A
A
K
A
A
Inclusive
hiring
partners
program
which
partnership
led
by
edc,
but
includes
a
lot
of
other
like
people
like
spark
media
action
opportunities
for
others.
It
was
a
pilot
program.
H
A
Currently
have
30
employers
already
on
board,
they
are
not
having
to
actively
recruit
employers
to
join,
to
hire
and
to
onboard
economically
disadvantaged
employees
in
our
community
at
15
an
hour
most
of
the
physicians
are
hiring
at
18
an
hour
lobotomy
cna
positions
so
and
they've
worked
with
that
particular
population
with
whatever
particular
challenges
they
may
also
be
facing
in
their
lives
to
make
sure
that
they
can
get
to
work
and
be
really
great
employees
within
our
community
as
well.
It's
been
a
really
fantastic
program.
A
A
It
sounds
great,
but
are
we
essentially
being
asked
for
a
50
000,
recurring
long-term
increase
in
this?
We
are.
The
primary
expenses
here
are
going
to
be
operating
so
recurring
in
nature
through
staff
time.
C
G
B
E
I
A
A
B
A
A
For
strategic
partners
too,
and
I
think
it's
pretty
predictable,
like
it's
not
gonna,
it's
not
gonna
do
well
in
that
through
that
process,
is,
I
think,
the
practical
reality
of
it.
So
I'm
just
concerned
it
might
be
kind
of
setting
up
another
mechanism
where
it's
not
likely
to
do
well.
Can
we
name
it?
I
mean
it
seems
like
you've.
A
D
A
That's
the
idea
right
right,
it's
just
you
know.
I
mean
I
love
them.
I
think
they're
the
right
organization
to
do
that,
but
they're,
not
the
right
organization
to
make
decisions
about
stuff.
That's
outside
of
the
art
space
which
the
this
is
not
an
art
project.
That's
not
what
it
is.
A
It
I
think
we
should
just
make
a
decision
to
support
it.
I
mean
that's
if
there
was
some
if
there
was
some
other
broader
program
that
it
did
make
sense
to
consider
it
as
a
part
of
I'd
be
happy
to
do
it.
I
don't
see
that
we
have
one
and
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
support
it,
we
want
to
see
it
to
see
it
be
around.
I
think
the
county
just
wants
to.
A
A
G
A
Some
in
the
past,
but
not
but
not
not
much,
and
it
does
definitely
serve
a
much
broader
community
than
just
residents
of
the
city
of
asheville.
So
in
a
way
I
feel
like
there's
going
to
be
a
local
government
unit,
investing
in
it,
it
should
be
the
county.
It
should
kind
of
unfair
to
the
city
taxpayers
to
carry
that
on
their
shoulders.
So
I
think
there's
value
in
it
and
I
think
the
and
part
of
the
proposal
they
put
forward
includes
contemplation
for
how
like
county
residents
would
have
lower.
A
A
A
All
right
talk
about
school.
I
need
to
get
my
kids
from
school,
maybe
other
stuff
too.
So
is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
talk
about
today?
Oh
my
gosh.
We've
got
a
lobbyist
to
hire.
Yes,.
G
A
G
A
Retaining
edward
and
smith
to
represent
falcon
county
in
the
general
assembly,
there
were
a
lot
of
great
groups.
I
mean
honestly,
I
think
everyone
we
interviewed
would
be
great,
so
all
had
great
capacity
and
very
effective
track
records,
but
morgan
smith
stood
out.
I
think
so!
That's
that's
the
recommendation.
We
wanted
to
bring
forward
for
consideration
today
and,
of
course,
the
short
sessions
about
to
start,
so
we
thought
we're
going
to
do.
This
would
be
good
to
go
ahead
and
and
engage
yeah
anything
else
from
the
staff
this
year.
On
this.
G
B
A
A
I'll
make
a
motion:
we
give
direction
to
retain
ward
and
smith
drivers
county
the
general
assembly.
Second,
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
hi.