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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting (July 13, 2021)
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The July 13, 2021 Regular Meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners. To view the agenda, future meeting agendas, or to view previous meetings, you can visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
A
I'd
like
to
call
the
july
13
2021
meeting
of
the
buncombe
county
commission
to
order,
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
Let's
begin
our
meeting
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance,
please
rise
and
join
us
in
the
pledge
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
in
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
A
I'd
like
to
announce
that
parking,
validation
and
bus
passes
are
available
for
any
members
of
the
public
who
utilize
the
county,
parking,
deck
or
public
transit
to
attend
the
meeting
this
evening,
you
can
get
those
your
tickets
validated
from
one
of
the
officers
who
is
with
us
this
evening.
It's
valid
for
today.
Only
let
me
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
C
If
I
make
bonnie
just
in
the
interest
of
transparency,
this
is
just
a
disclosure
regarding
the
east
fork.
Pottery
economic
development
item
we'll
be
discussing
the
non-profit
that
I'm
the
executive
director
for
has
a
long-standing
relationship
with
east
fork.
As
a
community
partner.
There
is
no
conflict
of
interest.
We've
ran
a
check
through
legal,
but
just
in
the
interest
of
transparency
did
we
want
to
share
that
ahead
of
the
discussion.
A
Okay
and
the
legal
review
concluded
that
there
was
no
conflict
of
interest
in
this
case.
D
That's
that's
correct,
there's
no
ownership
interest
in
the
venture
by
commissioner
or
entity,
and
it's
there's.
No
consideration
no
benefit
no
risk.
Thank.
A
You
very
much
thanks
for
disclosing
that,
but
since
there
is
no
conflict
of
interest,
commissioner
beech
ferrara
will
vote
it
as
required
on
that
on
that
on
that
issue,
all
right
there
being
none
all.
E
A
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
voted
on
by
the
board
at
this
meeting
tonight
we
come
to
the
consent
agenda.
There
is
one
item
we
need
to
move
from
the
consent
agenda
to
new
business,
which
is
the
budget
amendment
for
asheville
high
school
new
classroom
replacement
building,
it's
a
new
construction
project.
A
It
was
reviewed
by
the
school
capital
committee
this
week
and
there's
really
it's
almost
more
of
a
change
in
the
language
of
how
it's
being
described,
there's
no
substantive
change
to
it,
but
we'll
discuss
the
difference
when
we
get
to
it,
but
we're
going
to
move
that
under
new
business.
F
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
Okay.
We
now
come
to
public
comment
and
we've
got
two
folks
who
have
signed
up
don
yelton
and
jim
fulton.
A
Thank
you
for
being
with
us,
mr
yeltsin,
would
you
like
to
go
first
and
you've
got
three
minutes
to
speak
to
the
board.
You'll
get
a
orange
light
when
you've
got
30
seconds
left
and
a
red
light
when
the
time's
up-
and
please
conclude
your
remarks
when
the
time's
up,
we
want
to
give
everyone
an
equal
amount
of
time
to
address
the
board.
Thank
you.
G
Missing
getting
out
of
cycle
brownie,
you
forgot
to
have
your
moment
of
silence
by
the
way,
and
that
brings
up
a
part
of
something
I
wanted
to
talk
about,
because
I've
been
doing
this
for
about
25
years
and
I
have
seen
jewish
preachers
I've
seen
episcopalian
preachers,
I've
seen
baptist
preachers,
I've
seen
catholic
priests
up
here
having
the
prayer.
So
there
was
no
favors
to
anyone,
and
I
do
miss
that
because
that
was
the
first
time
I
got
exposed
to
see
a
jewish
leader
leading
prayer.
So
I
think
there's
some
benefit
to
that.
G
You
might
want
to
consider
it
because
you
don't
like
to
hear
what
I've
got
to
say.
I
know
you
don't,
and
I
know
that
coming
in,
but
I'm
going
to
say
something.
It's
very,
very
serious!
You
hear
a
lot
of
different
things
when
you
get
out
of
here.
The
people
in
the
street
don't
want
to
come
up
here
and
feel
like
they're
wasting
their
time,
but
I
do
believe
that
there
is
hope,
because
the
hope
lies
in
this.
G
You
folks
have
to
make
decisions
on
where
you're
going
to
spend
your
money,
and
everybody
wants
everything
they
want
this.
They
want
that
they
want
the
other.
They
want
affordable
housing.
You
all
need,
as
their
leaders
make
a
list
of
what
all
people
want.
When
you
go
out
in
these
community
meetings
and
put
a
dollar
sign
on
them
and
say:
okay,
are
you
willing
to
pay
for
it?
G
G
G
G
H
Well,
he
had
me
at
no
taxes
after
age,
62.
E
H
I
vote
for
you
don.
I
I
I
just
feel
as
though
I
have
a
responsibility
to
come
here
and
to
remind
you
that
I
don't
and
many
people
don't
agree
with
the
proclamation
that
that
country
the
county,
the
city
are
systemically
racist
and
all
of
the
things
that
you're
building
upon
that.
H
So
I'm
in
the
minority
here
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
I
saw
the
the
agenda
item
about
approval
of
a
b
tech,
workforce,
training,
center
and,
and
I'm
just
wondering
is-
is
there
a
budget
for
that
that
that
411
000
is
being
tracked
to,
and
will
I
find
that
in
the
budget
package
that
avril
put
out?
I
don't
know,
but
it
would
be
good
to
have
some
way
to
track
that.
H
With
the
with
the
huge
amount
of
money
being
given
to
the
county
by
the
taxpayers,
the
federal
taxpayers,
I
really
think
it's
very
important
that
we
see
full
transparency
on
precisely
how
much
money
is
coming
in
and
precisely
what
it's
being
spent
on.
H
That's
that's
very
important.
I
still
think
of
wanda
green
and
52
million
dollars
is
an
awful
lot
of
money
and
it
can
make
somebody
it
can
make
somebody
do
something
they
might
not
otherwise
do
so.
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
and
I
thought
I
thought
the
I
thought
the
esport
pottery
item
on
the
agenda
was
a
good
idea.
I
thought
it
was
odd,
but
I
thought
I
thought
that
I
thought
that
the
idea
behind
it
was
a
good
one.
I
also
wanted
to
ask
if
there's
a
budget
for
the
for
the
product,
I'm
sorry
for
the
development
and
production
of
a
comprehensive
plan
for
buncombe
county.
If
there
was
a
budget
for
that
and
if
so,
how
does?
H
How
does
the
cost
of
the
consulting
firm
factor
into
that?
And
I
also
wanted
to
mention
that,
if
you
find
which
I
expect
you
will,
there
is
no
conservative
voice
on
that
steering
committee
that
I
offer
myself
to
be
considered
for
a
member
of
that
steering
committee
and
that's
all
I
had
thank.
A
H
A
Thank
you,
mr
fulton,
and
if
you
would
send
me
an
email
with
those
questions,
I'd
be
sure
to
make
sure
you
get
answers
to
each
of
those
questions
about
the
budgets
that
you
inquired
about.
There
are
so
we'd
be
happy
to
get
that
to
you.
A
A
J
J
I
could
have
some
relief
on
my
property
taxes,
but
we'll
work
on
that,
but
just
thank
you
for
the
what
you're
doing
and
how
you
do
it
and
the
professionalism
that
you
carried
out.
J
J
And
so
I
will
proudly
carry
that
title
with
me
that
I'm
a
legacy
resident
and
so
thank
you
for
what
you
do
and
the
ones
of
us
that
are
legacy
residents.
J
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
with
us
and
for
your
comments.
We
will
be
considering
an
item
on
the
agenda
this
evening
that
we
hope
speaks
to
some
of
those
concerns
all
right,
commissioners
under
presentations.
Our
next
item
is
a
presentation
on
the
county,
health,
insurance
policies
and
sharon.
Burke,
our
hr
director
is
going
to
present
this
item.
Thanks
for
being
here,
sharon.
K
L
Thank
you
again,
sharon
and
good
evening
to
everyone.
Thank
you
for
for
the
chance
to
be
here.
I'm
larry
reiss
with
usi
we're
your
employee
benefit
consulting
firm.
I
understand
I'm
trying
to
keep
this
to
about
20
minutes,
so
I've
got
about
15
slides
to
go
through
I'll,
try
to
keep
a
pace.
That'll
allow
us
to
do
that,
but
it's
important
that
I
answer
your
questions
to
the
best
of
my
ability,
if
not
I'll,
make
notes
and
we'll
follow
up
accordingly,
with
that
I'll,
just
jump
right
in.
L
M
L
Let's
go
yep
there
we
go
so
I
I
think
everybody
on
council
has
a
a
printed
copy
with
the
material
and
I'll
just
quickly
go
through
the
agenda.
Before
I
can
take
my
page
big
topic
today,
we're
going
to
run
through
the
state
of
the
union
on
the
self-funded
health
insurance,
so
medical
and
pharmacy,
and
how
that's
been
performing
we'll
take
a
quick
state
of
the
union,
look
at
it
msk
as
muscular
skeletal
pt
as
physical
therapy.
I
think
this
group
knows
about
that.
L
Those
programs
have
been
remarkably
successful,
we'll
take
a
minute
and
dive
in
on
that
speak
to
some
favorability
on
those
programs.
Then
we
have
a
benchmark
comparative
study
for
you
at
a
very
high
level,
but
it
speaks
to
the
benefit
plan
design
and
then
we'll
look
at
a
two-year
strategy.
Migration
of
that
plan
design
and
the
draft
alignment
based
on
the
survey
data
and
the
market
research,
then
a
completely
separate
topic
related
in
the
sense
that
it's
still
about
the
medical
program,
but
more
the
managing
of
care.
L
We
can
really
help
that
one
percent
it
can
have
an
impact
as
a
self-funded
plan
sponsor
on
your
experience.
So
I'll
just
offer
that
as
a
backdrop
to
some
of
the
things
I'm
going
to
share
today,
roberta
you'll
go
to
great
so
financial
performance.
How
are
things
going
plan
year?
20
was
favorable,
actual
cost,
so
net
medical
cost,
prescription,
drug
cost,
reinsurance
or
stop-loss
premiums
and
administrative
fees
we're
down
11
and
20
compared
to
the
same
data
for
19..
So
that's
favorable.
Now
that's
about
a
three
and
a
half
million
dollar
favorability.
L
So
let's
talk
about
this
year,
fiscal
year
july
through
may
so
11
months
into
the
physical
year,
we
had
a
budget
forecast.
So
our
forecast,
our
underwriting
projections,
turn
into
your
budget
and
essentially
that's
30
million
to
26.
So
you've
got
another
little
over
3.6
million
dollars
in
favorability
again
about
11
to
12
percent.
So
things
are
running
good.
However
little
bump
in
the
road
and
I've
got
some
red
font
here
just
to
call
out
when
you
see
blue
font,
that's
my
suggestion.
L
Things
are
favorable
red
fine,
my
suggestion
things
are
not
favorable
for
the
three
months.
I'm
sharing
that
because
this
is
being
recorded,
I'm
told
and
be
reshared
yep
community
wide.
So
I
thought
that
might
be
a
helpful
hint
on
consuming
information
three
months
year
to
date.
Most
recent
three
months
excuse
me
march
through
may-
are
not
favorable
they're
flat.
So
just
something
to
keep
our
eye
on
three
months.
Doesn't
a
year
make
but
not
favorable.
L
At
the
moment,
good
news,
fiscal
year,
2122
everybody
in
the
room
knows
there
was
no
recommended
increase
to
budget
and
we
also
recommended
no
increase
to
employee
payroll
deductions,
beginning
1-122
so
calendar
year,
22.,
and
we
had
previously.
I
I
previously
have
been
in
front
of
this
governing
body,
and
we
had
talked
about
some
plan
design
changes
a
few
years
ago,
I'm
back
again
to
resurrect
that
discussion
and
and
reconvene
on
what
that
might
look
like.
L
L
How
is
buncombe
county's
historical
performance
compared
to
a
benchmark
in
the
southern
u.s
for
municipal
clients,
and
your
consumption
is
going
to
be
something
on
the
magnitude
of
of
16
versus
a
13-5.
If
we
look
out
at
21.
that
black
line
is
around
13-5
or
a
little
north
of
that
so
conversationally
you're
running
about
15
to
17
percent
unfavorable
to
a
southern
norm,
lots
of
reasons
for
that
we'll
cover
some
of
them.
We've
made
some
improvement.
When
I
look
at
this,
I
see
some
nice.
L
can't
say
that
that's
all
due
to
the
population,
health
and
other
strategies
that
we've
deployed,
we
also
get
a
little
lucky
with
not
as
many
shock
claims,
it's
a
combination
of
both,
but
you
need
to
be
doing
both
and
the
journey
right
now
with
20
is
things
are
moving
back
in
the
wrong
direction.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
this
like
a
salary
analysis,
because
basically
you
spend
money
on
health
care,
it's
a
dollar
that
would
be
spent
somewhere
else.
This
is
a
little
unfavorable
in
that
respect,
and
it's
consistently
been
that
way.
L
I
suppose
that'd
be
the
point
of
this
one.
Next
I'll,
just
now
move
us
into
your
three
plants.
You
have
three
medical
plans
today
and
you
see
the
percentage
of
enrollment,
so
there's
good
spread
there.
52
percent
of
the
people
elect
the
standard
plan
and
then
the
buy-up
is
24
and
the
core
is
24..
L
So
we
gave
you
two
benchmarks
to
look
at.
We
could
probably
try
it
out
five
more,
but
these
are
statistically
valid
benchmarks.
I'll
call
your
attention
because
the
conversation
is
going
to
hone
in
on
changing
or
considering
a
change
to
deductible
and
out
of
pocket.
These
are
singles
so
just
to
keep
the
grid
a
little
less
complicated.
I
get
there's
a
lot
on
here,
but
family
is
not
presented.
L
There'd
be
commiserate
moves
in
family,
but
what
you
have
today
is
a
300
deductible,
so
individual
is
single,
400
and
650,
and
then
you
see
the
out
of
pockets
and
you
see
it
in
comparison
to
benchmark.
So
all
three
plans
are
favorable.
That
might
be
one
of
the
primary
reasons
why
your
claim
costs
on
a
per
capita
basis
or
higher
than
the
benchmark
data
you're
more
generous
in
your
design
features.
L
I
don't
think
that's
news
to
anybody
in
the
room,
but
I'm
just
kind
of
putting
a
and
b
together
so
that
the
story
holds
then
the
the
rates,
the
employee
contributions.
I
think
we
already
made
the
recommendation
no
increase
to
22.
here
they
are
for
21..
If
that
was
the
will
of
this
governing
body,
then
they'd
be
flat
for
22
as
well,
so
there
they
are
in
that
respect.
L
Well,
I'll
keep
us
going.
Thank
you,
so
the
summary
of
why
you
might
consider
changes.
So
we
started
this
journey
a
few
years
ago
and
we
provided
a
strategic
document.
Then
that
was
basically
some
of
the
plan
designs
on
the
previous
two
pages.
But
what's
going
right
since
we've
been
able
to
help
with
your
reinsurance
or
stop
loss,
we
marketed
that
across
a
wide.
That's
not
on
the
id
card.
It's
not
in
the
open,
enrollment
guide
so
who
you
buy
reinsurance
from
and
how
you
buy.
L
It
is
something
that
doesn't
impact
employees
at
all,
so
it
allows
you
some
leverage.
It's
not
a
blue
cross
thing:
it's
not
changing
carriers,
nobody
has
to
change
docs,
it's
a
behind-the-scenes
financing
mechanism.
So
that's
gone
favorable
for
you,
your
prescription
drug
terms
have
gotten
remarkably
more
favorable
and
then
the
muscular
skeletal
program
and
the
physical
therapy,
things
that
have
been
done
have
been
very
helpful.
L
So
a
lot
of
things
going
right
and
I
think
that's
why
there
hasn't
been
a
budget
increase
for
the
last
two
cycles,
but
time
to
come
back
and
look
at
that
because
of
the
three
three
most
recent
months
and
kind
of
where
you
guys
are
in
future
forecast
health
care
trends,
seven
to
eight
percent.
So
a
do
nothing
strategy
which
suggests
the
baseline
increase
in
a
30
33
million
dollar
35
million
dollar
spend
is
seven
and
a
half
percent.
L
So
that's
basically
like
saying
consumer
price
index
inflation.
When
I
say
healthcare
trends
run
in
seven
and
a
half.
The
do
nothing
strategy
is
going
to
cost
account
every
client
every
planned,
sponsor
municipal
corporate
privately
held
healthcare,
inflation,
healthcare
trend,
seven
and
a
half
percent.
So
a
do
nothing
strategy.
Your
costs
are
going
to
go
up,
seven
and
a
half
so
overall,
just
kind
of
making
the
point
now
translating
a
previous
page.
L
That
was
a
graph
chart
that
you
saw
the
differentiator
differential
between
yourself
and
a
normative,
and
now
we're
trying
to
quantify
that
15
to
17
percent,
that's
about
four
or
five
million
dollars,
so
why?
Why
is
buncombe
county
spend
15
percent
higher
than
normative
data?
You
cover
more
dependents
because
the
payroll
deductions
are
more
favorable.
I
don't
think
that's
news
to
anybody
in
the
room.
L
You
have
a
very
low
cost
share.
The
plan
designs
are
favorable
and
the
risk
profile
of
the
group
is
improving,
but
we're
on
that
journey
and
health
doesn't
change
overnight,
and
people
still
need
to
be
treated
and
sometimes
there's
gaps
in
care
that
are
identified
that
were
untreated,
so
the
correct
treatment
and
when
the
pt
and
the
clinic
and
the
things
we're
going
to
talk
about
today
are
really
running
for
a
low
turnover
environment.
L
So
that's
the
summary
of
why
we're
suggesting
some
of
the
things
so
here
are
the
changes
21.
These
are
the
deductibles
and
out
of
pockets
that
you
saw
in
a
previous
slide,
so
300
hours
for
standard
plan
400
for
buy
up
and
650
for
core.
If
you
let
your
eyes
go
to
the
middle
of
the
page,
you
would
see
the
suggested
changes
so
in
in
this
example.
For
a
single
person
or
an
individual
deductible
goes
from
300
to
525,
that's
an
increase
of
225
dollars.
L
I
think
you
guys
get
it,
and
so
you
can
kind
of
see
the
buy
up.
400
goes
to
600
core
goes
650
to
750.
and
so
a
little
bit
less.
It's
not
the
same
number
incrementally
there's
a
little
method
to
the
madness
trying
to
keep
those
in
line
or
in
a
way
that
is
plausible
for
the
three
to
still
have
a
shelf
space.
L
When
you
think
about
this
people,
when
they
pick
a
product
to
enroll
in
there's,
got
to
be
a
little
bit
of
shelf
space
between
the
the
three
offerings,
so
their
savings
correlated
with
with
this,
and
you
see
the
cost
savings
for
deductibles
about
331
000
out
of
pockets
about
450
454
to
be
specific
and
then
so,
while
we
were
together
thought
it
was
good
to
tell
you
more
than
one
year,
maybe
incrementally
this
is
done
the
year
after
that
so
january,
the
1st
of
23,
you
might
consider
some
additional
changes,
probably
the
biggest
one
would
be
uc
standards,
no
longer
there
and
the
standard.
L
If
I
could
have
made
the
chart
work,
I
guess
I
would
have
put
the
hdhp
stands
for
high
deductible
health
plan.
Pretty
prevalent
in
america,
pretty
prevalent
municipal
america,
hsa
stands
for
health
savings
account.
That's
basically
like
an
ira
for
medical,
that's
what
it
affectionately
is
referred
to
often,
but
we
would
introduce
that
plan
as
a
third
option
and
standard
would
be
sunset
if
you're
trying
to
consume
it
in
the
lineup
mentally.
I
would
just
have
you
kind
of
pick
it
up
in
your
mind
and
stick
it
over
there
past
core?
L
Okay,
it
would
be
less
rich
than
core
not
to
be
as
rich
as
standard
you'll
notice.
The
footnote,
if
we
did,
if
it
was
the
will
of
the
governing
body
and
and
the
leadership
of
the
county,
to
launch
a
high
deductible
health
plan
and
sunset
stand
standard,
you
could
offer
your
employees
hsa
money.
This
might
be
very
appealing
to
a
certain
portion
of
your
employee
base,
because
they'd
have
dollars
that
would
be
funded
by
the
county
to
set
aside
for
future
costs.
If
they
didn't
need
those
dollars
and
they
were
super
healthy.
L
The
law
allows
those
funds
to
be
used
to
pay
for
medicare
premiums
at
retirement,
so
hsas
are
popular,
I'm
sure
you've
googled
them,
I'm
sure
you
have
friends
that
have
them,
but
that
would
be
the
year
three
strategy.
If
you
wanted
to
go
in
that
direction,
the
savings
for
the
changes,
1
122
between
deductible
and
out
of
pocket
or
331
and
554.
L
L
Yes,
so
this
particular
benchmark
was
more
when
high
deductible
health
plans
are
deployed.
So
that's
when
we
were
showing
you
the
thousand
and
the
four
thousand
two
slides
ago.
We
showed
you
benchmark
usi
and
municipal
america,
and
those
were
a
little
different
than
that.
One
thousand
four
thousand,
not
remarkably,
but
slightly
different-
is
that
helpful
to
you?
L
You're
welcome
so
a
little
bit
of
a
move
now
so
plan
design,
effectuates
change
immediately.
L
The
things
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
next
take
a
little
bit
longer
to
create
change,
because
it's
all
of
us
getting
more
healthy.
Are
we
walking
enough
or
we're
running
enough?
L
Are
we
exercising
or
eating
right
so
hra's
health
risk
assessment,
and
I
think
most
people
in
the
room
know
because
buncombe
county's
been
doing
that
for
several
years,
but
I
need
to
get
the
flow
and
the
order
of
events
right,
because
I'm
about
to
share
something
with
you
that
will
first,
we
need
to
make
sure
we're
all
together
on
this,
so
health
risk
assessments
are
done
annually.
L
So
what's
an
hra
biometric
screening,
blood
pressure,
glucose
hdl,
ldl
bmi
weight,
so
those
are
the
criteria
that
are
looked
at
in
a
health
risk
assessment
for
biometric
screening
depending
upon
how
that's
scored
you
get
your
results
in
in
january
and
you
could
either
have
the
favorable
premium
or
the
regular
premium,
depending
on
those
results,
and
then
there's
an
opportunity
to
see
the
clinic
during
a
calendar
year
as
an
alternative
standard.
L
L
So
if
I
was
looking
at
buncombe
county
in
comparison
county
is
somebody
four
years
into
the
journey?
Okay.
So
where
should
I
expect
to
be?
Should
you
should
you
be
there
now?
No,
should
you
should
that
be
a
goal?
Yes,
so
the
aggregation
of
your
employees
and
adult
spouses
taking
health
risk
assessment
and
looking
at
their
results,
we
now
put
your
employee
base
into
three
buckets:
low
risk,
moderate
risk
and
high
risk,
and
so
let's
just
pause,
low
risk
at
58.
Wait!
Isn't
that
better
than
63?
No,
it's
not!
L
L
So
that's
how
you
read
this
data
55
of
of
your
members
improved
so
a
year
ago
that
9
was
more
like
13
right,
the
high
risk,
so
we
had
some
migration.
That's
good
clinics
working
musculoskeletal
programs,
working
pt's
working,
however-
and
this
happens
gravity's
pulling
on
all
of
us-
are
our
people.
Low
and
moderate
risk
unfortunately
had
some
some
slide
and
that's
why
these
programs
are
important.
That's
why
they're
repetitive?
That's
why
we
try
to
keep
it
front
of
mind.
That's
why
you
have
a
wellness
program
and
a
chronic
condition
management
program.
L
N
L
L
So,
let's
translate
health
risk
assessment
results
year
over
year,
got
some
high
risk,
some
medium
risk
and
some
low
risk.
Now,
let's
translate
that
into
claim
cost
and
percent
of
members,
so
for
the
58
percent,
who
scored
low
risk
zero
to
one
their
claim,
cost
on
a
per
capita
basis
is
6
300..
L
So
you
see
how
there's
a
direct
correlation
between
the
higher
the
risk
factor,
the
deeper
the
disease
burden,
the
larger
the
claim
spent
per
person
pretty
logical,
but
good
to
see
it
right.
So
1116
members
58
of
your
membership,
doing
pretty
well
and
they
don't
really
need
to
come
to
the
clinic.
So
we're
not
proposing
a
change
there.
Current
is
how
often
they
need
to
come
to
the
clinic
so
wellness
visit
requirements
to
show
up
to
the
clinic.
L
Let's
talk
and
and
maybe
there's
a
reason
why
you've
got
some
risk
factors,
and
what
do
we
want
to
do
about
those
for
those
with
two
today,
the
calendar
year,
21
requirement
is
for
them
to
come
to
the
clinic
once
we're
just
asking
it
to
go
to
twice
for
those
with
three
or
more
risk
factors.
They
see
the
clinic
once
we're
asking
that
to
go
to
three.
So,
yes,
we
are
asking
32
of
the
people
to
do
a
little
something
different
in
22
than
they
did
in
21..
L
We're
asking
them
to
go
either
one
more
time
or
two
more
times.
Those
touch
points
are
critical
in
the
change
journey.
Okay,
just
an
opportunity
to
talk,
maybe
understand
what
they're
consuming,
how
they're
consuming
it
or
maybe
not
at
all,
maybe
there's
a
gap
in
care
that
needs
to
be
closed.
They
don't
have
to
go
to
the
clinic.
L
L
Now
I
will
call
out
there's
27
percent
of
the
members
697
adult
members
who
did
not
complete.
You
know
it's
a
cohort.
I
gotta
have
you
in
period
one
and
period,
two
to
measure
anything.
You
got
697
on
the
sidelines
and
some
of
that's
due
to
newhart,
but
someone.
That's
just
due
to
people
not
wanting
to
do
it.
27
is
kind
of
high
for
that
I'd,
say
you
get
about
in
any
given
benchmark
study
about
10,
maybe
12,
just
not
interested
I'll
pay.
The
higher
premium
leave
me
alone.
L
So
I'm
calling
that
out
now,
because
we
have
a
recommendation
in
a
moment
on
a
potential
remedy
for
that.
Okay
is
pace:
okay,
okay,
I'll
keep
us
going!
Thank
you
bro.
So
a
lot
of
data
here,
so
we've
moved
away
from
clinic
now
to
incentives.
Okay,
this
is
health
improvement
incentives.
So
this
is
how
a
plan
sponsor
like
buncombe
county,
tries
to
encourage
a
consumer
to
engage
okay.
L
L
What's
the
preferred
plus
rate,
a
preferred,
plus
rate
would
be
today
58
percent
of
your
people.
If
they
take
the
22
hra
right,
we're
going
to
do
that
in
october
21,
and
then
they
turn
around
in
october
22
for
1123.
Take
the
hra,
I
mean
no
reason
to
assume
it
won't
be
a
high
percentage,
it
might
not
be
58,
but
they
would
already
gain
favor
for
the
preferred
plus
rate
okay.
L
L
Bmi
could
get
better
just
an
improvement,
not
in
every
category
in
one
category
and
they
would
get
the
preferred
plus
rate
if
they
didn't
do
either
one
of
those
two
things
and
we
got
into
calendar
year
23
and
they
were
willing
to
work
with
the
clinic
and
still
try
to
make
an
improvement
and
actually
achieve
an
improvement
at
that
point
in
the
calendar
year,
not
the
beginning,
but
let's
just
say
they
finally
fixed
something
in
their
health
profile
in
june
of
that
year,
then
they
would
get
the
preferred
premium
reasonably
following
the
june
date
for
for
payroll
administrative
purposes.
L
So
there's
always
a
way
to
get
the
preferred
plus
for
someone
who's
willing
to
come
along
in
the
program.
Okay,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
the
regular
does
go
up
a
little
bit
and
the
preferred
stays
is
a
little
more
favorable
than
the
regular
and
the
preferred
plus
stays
the
same
as
the
current
discounted.
L
So
why
tonight,
why
are
we
telling
you
about
the
the
23
journey,
because
this
has
got
to
be
communicated
sometime
in
21?
The
consumer
will
take
action
in
23
and
then
the
implications
of
those
actions
will
take
place.
January
1
of
I
said,
excuse
me
sometime
in
22
and
then
the
payroll
deduction
change
would
be
in
23..
I
apologize.
I
made
a
mistake
in
the
dates
a
lot
to
keep
up
with,
okay,
so
hey
larry.
Why
why
the
increase
in
the
regular
rate
that
last
bullet
point
remember?
L
On
page
nine,
I
told
you
that
we
have
697
participants,
not
engaged,
which
is
around
27.
L
So
now
we're
gonna
segue
again,
this
is
just
an
update.
Musculoskeletal
program's
going
great
claims
are
gonna
bounce
you
had
3.6
million
and
one
in
18,
4.5
million
and
19,
and
now
we're
down
to
three.
I
would
love
to
tell
you
five
months
into
your
musculoskeletal
program.
You
may
we
made
1.5
million
disappear.
L
We
did
not
if
things
are
going
well,
but
I
would
say
that
your
moving
average
on
muscular
skeletal
spins,
probably
closer
to
a
high
threes
low
four
number
and
the
favorability
that
you've
got
in
the
pt
programs,
probably
worth
fifty
seventy
thousand
dollars
a
month.
That's
basically
what
this
is
saying
through
march,
you
have
285
members
just
just
to
help
help
you
make
sense
of
it.
The
county's
probably
got
about
3
800
enrolled
members,
adult
members
are
probably
3
200
and
so
to
have
285
join
the
musculoskeletal
program.
L
L
So
we
estimate
the
program
savings
to
be
north
300
and
our
original
projection
was
three.
That's
some
of
the
reason
for
the
favorability.
That
was
just
an
update
for
the
good
of
the
group.
We'll
keep
going
row
so
condition
care
program,
and
I
know
we're
really
getting
deep
in
the
weeds,
but
stay
with
me
ppcn.
That's
the
old
asheville
project,
so
most
folks
probably
been
around
long
enough
to
remember
and
know
that
it
I
think
it's
been
good
for
the
county
good
for
the
city.
L
I
think
it
might
have
seen
its
life
cycle
clinical
care
programs
need
to
be
updated
and
evaluated.
If
it's
about
engaging
people
and
saving
money.
I'd
say
this
one's
seen
better
days.
There's
low
engagement
right
now
and
there's
not
good
evidence
of
savings,
there's
probably
a
better
way
home.
So
one
of
the
recommendations
is
that
you
sunset
that
program
there's
implications
to
sunsetting
that
program.
You
have
390
some
people
enrolled
in
wellness
program
with
the
county
today
that
get
partially
subsidized
drugs,
because
they're
enrolled
in
that
program
that'll
go
away
on
january
1..
L
So
the
recommendation
is
that
your
sunset,
this
contract,
I'll
leave
that
to
staff
and
leadership
on
when
that
exactly
happens,
but
we
would
sunset
the
three
plants
that
those
390
people
were
enrolled
in
on
january.
That's
the
time
to
do
it
in
the
blue
cross
cycle.
You
were
new
january
1,
so
that's
when
that
would
take
place
so
a
little
bit
of
a
downside
to
those
people,
but
it's
not
having
the
effectiveness
that
you
want.
Those
dollars
could
be
better
spent
by
the
county
in
a
different
way.
L
So
I'll
talk
about
that
now,
there's
a
new
approach
plan
member
advocate.
So
let
me
just
put
a
couple
of
facts
on
the
table
you
had
so
so.
The
county
had
346
people
identified
for
case
management
this
past
year
that
case.
So
what
could
that
be?
That
could
be
post
surgery
and
I
wasn't
engaged
that
could
be.
I'm
a
diabetic
and
the
data
says
I'm
non-compliant.
I
haven't
had
an
a1c
exam
in
a
while.
L
L
You
had
13
members
at
192,
inpatient
stays
complete
a
post-operative
or
or
a
post.
Inpatient
stay
call,
so
neither
one
of
those
would
be
favorable
statistics,
I'm
making
a
case
for
behaving
a
little
different.
We
think
you
can
get
some
lift
and
we've
had
that
number
validated
by
blue
cross
about
a
half
million
dollars.
If
we
could
get
case
management
up.
Our
recommendation
after
going
to
market
and
talking
to
some
other
partners
is
synergy,
would
become
your
your
primary
advocacy
group
and
conditioned
care
and
care
navigation
partner.
L
That's
a
mouthful,
but
they
would
do
a
lot.
You'd
have
an
rn.
Ccm
stands
for
certified
case
manager,
they're
quasi
clinical,
and
they
know
about
behavior
change,
a
lot
of
behavior
change,
so
I
might
have
a
chronic
ill.
I
might
have
crohn's
disease
and
before
we
can
ever
create
drunk
treat
the
crohn's
disease.
We've
got
to
treat
me
emotionally
and
get
me
in
a
place
where
I
want
to
make
changes,
and
I
accept
what
that
lifestyle
change
might
be.
I
have
to
eat
different,
have
to
consume
some
pharmaceuticals
that
have
a
side
effect.
L
I
don't
like
the
side
effect
I
like
to
eat
what
I
eat.
I
don't
like
side
effects
so
rn
and
certified
case
manager
are
really
important.
Ingredients
on
the
change
journey
think
high
school
coach,
whoever
piano
teacher,
whoever
leaned
in
and
really
helped.
You
make
a
behavior
change
and
with
shoulder
to
shoulder.
That's
what
we're
talking
about
here.
It's
just
clinical
this
time.
L
The
cost
for
this
program
is
going
to
run
you
about
191,
000
bucks
and
the
roi
is
going
to
be
a
net
roi
of
about
350.
that
needs
ramp
time.
So
that's
a
12
month
journey,
but
that's
the
recommendation
to
the
group
and
we're
informing
you
that
one
autoimmune,
so
everybody
knows
lupus
autoimmune
diseases,
there's
a
broad
spectrum
of
autoimmune,
three
big
ones:
ms
rheumatoid
arthritis,
psoriasis
and
crohn's
inflammatory
bowel
disease.
L
So
why
are
we
singling
out
autoimmune?
If
you
know
anybody
with
autoimmune
and
you
have
any
inclination
of
their
healthcare
journey?
It's
a
mess.
It's
self-guided,
it's
difficult,
they're,
four
or
five
different
attending
and
treating
physicians
nobody's
really
quarterbacking
care
and
they
go
for
care.
It's
complex,
they're,
a
complex
patient,
they're
not
easily
identified
and
diagnosed,
and
what
this
program
does
it
says?
Okay,
you
got
151
of
them,
but
by
the
way
we're
getting
better
at
diagnosing
them,
so
they
were
probably
always
there.
L
They
just
weren't
that
I
say
we,
the
clinical
community,
is
getting
better
at
diagnosing
people
with
autoimmune
disease,
and
so
because
of
that,
you
already
had
that
patient
that
employee
that
covered
spouse,
but
they
were
bouncing
around
in
the
health
care
system,
with
no
diagnosis
and
and
we're
finally
getting
better
at
it
as
a
country
as
a
clinical
community
and
you're
spending
around
2.6
million.
Today
1.6
of
that's
on
pharmaceuticals,
and
so
I'm
going
to
scare
you
a
little
bit
and
tell
you
that
32
people
spent
that
1.6
million
yep
so
stay
with
me.
L
L
This
is
part
of
that
one
percent
right
here
you
got
four
thousand
belly
buttons
covered
and
we're
talking
about
151
of
them.
Okay,
so
specialty
medications
average
50
grand.
So
this
program
is
entirely
designed
to
lean
in
to
the
people
with
an
autoimmune.
I
wish
we
had
this
program
for
every
disease.
There
is
we
don't
right
now
and
this
one's
marginally
beyond
pilot
phase,
there's
six
clients
doing
it
anyway.
L
We
think
you
might
be
interested
and
it
might
be
a
wise
investment
to
consider
deploying
this
program
for
your
folks
who
would
like
to
participate,
not
mandatory,
not
required
they're
individually,
outreached
too,
and
if
they'd
like
to
join
the
program,
it's
free
to
them
as
a
consumer.
Why
would
the
county
want
to
offer
something
free
to
a
subset,
because
you're
spending,
2.6
million
dollars
on
on
151
people
and
32
1.6?
L
My
sense
and
and
my
conversations
with
all
my
clients
is,
if
you
don't
do
this
you're,
going
to
continue
to
spend
money
on
their
pharmaceutical
consumption
and
they're
going
to
move
all
around
the
health
care
journey
because
they're
sick
and
they
don't
feel
well
and
they're,
not
sure
why
and
they
frankly
just
get
bounced
around
in
the
health
care
system.
So
this
is
designed
to
kind
of
center
that
ground
it
put
a
net
around
it
and
start
to
effectuate
change
with
some
people
who
designed
some
pretty
smart.
L
L
So
you
know
if
it
all
boils
down
to
savings.
The
plan
design
changes
on
page
seven
were
worth
a
little
less
than
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars.
The
complex
care
navigation
is
worth
about
352.
L
we
tossed
autoimmune
in
there,
but
I
want
to
be
very
specific
right
now:
there's
no
savings
associated
with
autoimmune,
so
you
could
delay
that
program
and
just
you
spend
what
you
spend
kind
of
like
you're
doing
right
now.
It
doesn't
make
it
a
good
or
bad
decision.
It's
just
an
alternative,
but
if
you
deploy
it
you
could
effectuate
change
downstream
and
hopefully
some
of
those
32
and
151
join,
but
together
those
two
are
estimated
at
saving
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
in
a
calendar
year
on
on
a
generally
conversationally
speaking
budget
of
35
million.
L
L
We
just
got
to
have
all
hands
on
deck,
to
try
to
drive
it
down
and
and
here's
a
million
that
maybe
takes
out
three
points.
So
I
am
grateful
for
your
time
tonight.
I'm
sorry!
I
tried
to
move
at
a
decent
pace
and
cover
quite
a
lot
of
ground,
but
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
be
here,
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
or
whatever's
best.
A
All
right,
thanks
larry,
that
was
a
lot
of
information,
and
I
think
you
did
a
great
job
covering
it.
Commissioners.
Are
there
any
questions
at
this
time?
We're
not
voting
on
anything
tonight.
Of
course
we're
just
this
is
to
share
information
with
the
commission
and
there's
going
to
be
a
process
to
get
more
engagement
with
county
employees
and
then
so
it's
just
starting
the
process.
E
A
A
I
Good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners
appreciate
your
time
this
evening,
we've
got,
as
chairman
newman
said,
economic
development
presentation
for
east
fork
pottery.
I
Opportunity
in
terms
of
the
background
and
request
in
june
of
2021
east
fork,
pottery
announced
that
they
would
be
expanding
in
buncombe
county,
which
is
exciting
news
for
those
that
are
unfamiliar
with
east
fork,
they're,
a
manufacturer
and
distributor
of
ceramic
goods,
their
current
sites
in
asheville
there's
three
of
them.
They
employ
about
100
people,
but
they're
they're,
looking
to
expand
that
number
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
a
moment.
I
Our
request
today
from
the
board
is
twofold:
there's
two
resolutions
in
your
packet.
One
resolution
relates
to
our
typical
economic
development
agreement,
which
we're
asking
for
you
to
approve
and
then
a
second
resolution
relates
to
the
building
reuse
program,
which
is
a
new
program
for
us,
that's
offered
by
the
department
of
commerce,
rural
division,
and
so
that
resolution
would
approve
that
second
agreement.
I
There
are
two
modifications
you
can
see
it
in
the
notes
on
the
slide,
but
we
made
a
last-minute
edit
to
the
documents
to
include
all
three
facilities
that
east
fork
owns
and
operates
here
in
buncombe
county.
The
original
agreement
only
listed
one,
but
that
was
a
that
was
a
mistake
on
my
part,
so
just
wanted
to
call
your
attention
to
that.
We've
switched
those
documents
in
the
packet,
but
that
was
the
only
change.
I
Speaking
of
so
site
locations
on
the
map
there's
three
locations.
I
want
to
call
your
attention
to
they're
color
coded
just
to
make
it
easier
to
understand
the
differences
15
west
walnut
is
a
retail
establishment.
That's
indicated
in
blue
on
your
map.
You
can
see
it
at
the
top,
but
there's
also
two
manufacturing
facilities,
one
on
short
mcdowell
and
then
one
on
caribou
road,
and
so
the
caribou
road
facility
is
right
off
of
sweden,
creek
and
then
the
short
mcdowell
site
is
right
before
you
get
into
biltmore
village.
I
So
we're
talking
about
three
sites.
The
reality
is
the
majority
of
the
improvements
and
equipment
will
occur
at
the
manufacturing
sites,
but
there
is
the
possibility
that
some
of
the
hiring
that
occurs
could
impact
that
retail
site.
So
we
wanted
to
include
all
three
just
to
just
to
be
safe,
the
scope
of
the
project,
so
this
involves
expanding
the
existing
asheville
plant
and
so
there's
three
of
which,
as
I've
described
to
you
already,
this
involves
retaining
the
existing
hundred
jobs,
as
well
as
adding
an
additional
50
jobs
in
the
process.
I
East
fork
would
invest
about
2.38
million
dollars,
which
includes
any
improvements
to
the
facilities,
but
also
purchase
of
personal
property
or
business
personal
property.
Excuse
me,
average
wages
here
are
46.7
annually,
which
is
22.46
an
hour
which
of
course
exceeds
the
living
wages
that
we
see
here
in
buncombe
county.
An
exciting
item.
I'd
like
to
discuss
with
you
today
is
in
regarding
the
hiring
from
disadvantaged
populations
and
how
that's
been
structured
into
this
agreement
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
detail.
I
But
the
quick
notes
on
that
were
we're
talking
about
folks
that
participate
in
the
step
program,
which
I
know
you're
familiar
with,
but
also
folks
that
may
be
just
as
involved.
So
something
we'll
talk
about
more
all
in
all.
You
can
see
in
the
green
tag
line.
We
feel
this
that
we're
bringing
before
you
today
really
aligns
to
buncombe
2025
on
a
number
of
levels,
we're
talking
about
higher
average
wages
in
our
community,
we're
talking
about
increasing
total
employment,
but
we're
also
talking
about
equity,
which
we
really
achieved
through
that
final
bullet.
I
O
Thank
you
tim
for
that
introduction.
It's
great
to
be
here,
I'm
going
to
take
you
through
a
quick
history
of
east
fork.
I
founded
it
in
2010
in
madison
county
and
it
was
on
an
old
tobacco
farm.
We
used
to
fire
or
work
in
a
large
wood
kiln.
If
anybody's
knows
north
carolina
pottery
it's
a
thing
in
2015,
my
wife
and
now
our
ceo
connie
matisse
and
our
business
partner
who's.
Our
cfo
john
vigeland
bought
a
small
gas
kiln
from
the
netherlands.
O
It
was
like
going
from
a
conestoga
wagon
to
a
tesla
and
from
that
point
we've
been
off
and
running.
We
yeah
that
was
in
2015
2017.
We
moved
into
the
short
mcdowell
location
and
in
about
a
year
we
were
bursting
at
the
seams.
O
A
three-year
growth
rate
of
109
percent
2020
revenue
is
2x
over
2019..
We've
got
two
stores
one
here,
one
in
atlanta
and
we've
just
crossed
a
hundred
employee
threshold.
We
added
26
employees
during
2020
during
covid
and
we've
already
added
about
15
this
year,
plus
all
the
hiring
that
we're
gearing
up
to
do
instead
of
surviving
the
last
12
months.
Well,
this
is
actually
from
an
old
deck.
Obviously
it's
more
than
12
months
now,
but
we
we
really
thrived
in
part
because
we
make
dinnerware
and
our
supply
chain.
O
We
control
our
supply
chain,
but
also
because
people
are
buying
for
their
homes
and
we
don't
rely
on
a
lot
of
wholesale
accounts
or
or
industry,
so
we're
selling
to
an
end
consumer.
All
those
orders
are
fulfilled
out
of
the
cariboo
road
location.
What
else
yeah?
So
we
maintained
all
of
our
staff
on
payroll.
We
made
no
cuts,
we
did
no
furloughs,
we
paid
them
for
two
months
of
factory
shutdown.
O
O
O
O
What
else
the
new
facility
will
be
fully
operational
and
commissioned
by
january
of
2022
and
it'll
give
us
a
capacity
of
about
a
million
pieces
a
year,
which
is
a
lot
of
pottery
from
where
we
started
just
a
couple
years
ago
about
a
thousand
pieces
a
year,
a
big
thing
that
we
do
and
that
working
with
tim
he's
been
very
excited
to
talk
with
us
about
is
we
have
worked
really
hard
over
the
last
few
years
to
think
deeply
about
our
hiring
practices,
so
we
hire
from
from
populations
that
currently
have
barriers
to
entry.
O
We
hire,
formerly
incarcerated
and
then
on
you
know,
just
making
a
hire.
Is
there
really
is
a
easy
part,
but
having
an
organization
that
can
support
folks
as
they
come
in,
is
really
important.
So
in
that
hiring
we
don't
need
resumes.
O
In
fact,
people
actually
leave
with
a
resume
through
our
coaching
process,
so
we
have
someone
who
is
going
to
be
here
tonight
to
speak
but
could
not
make
it
clarissa
harris
leads
all
of
those
efforts
for
us.
O
O
As
as
a
you
know,
as
a
bipod
person,
as
everybody
knows,
asheville
is
has
the
sort
of
reputation
from
the
outside
world
of
being
a
bastion
of
kind
of
liberal
happiness
and
perfect.
You
know
everything's,
perfect
and
grouping.
You
just
go
around
to
the
breweries,
but
when
you
start
digging
through
that,
you
realize
that
there's
a
lot
more
here.
So
we
are
committed
to
asheville
we're
committed
to
being
here
and
thank
you
for
giving
me
the
chance
to
come
up
and
speak.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
east
fork.
I
Thank
you
alex
so
at
this
point,
we'll
transition
a
little
bit
from
what
alex
shared
and,
I
think,
really
important.
You
know
some
of
those
accomplishments.
You
know
kind
of
glossed
over.
Almost
you
know.
Certified
b
corp
moved
to
a
20
minimum
wage
in
this
past
year,
which
is
when
there
was
a
pandemic.
I
know
we
all
recall
so
just
wanted
to
spend
a
moment
on
that,
but
back
to
sort
of
logistics
and
business.
I
I
So
this
is
a
program
that's
administered
by
the
north
carolina
department
of
commerce
and
specifically,
the
rural
division.
The
purpose
of
this
program
is
three-fold,
but
the
the
piece
that
we're
targeting
today
is
renovating.
You
know
existing
facilities,
so
that's
the
purpose
of
the
program
to
renovate
existing
or
vacant
facilities.
I
There's
a
few
requirements
from
the
state
first
off
the
state
will
will
not
pay
for
more
than
50
percent
of
any
company's
project,
and
in
this
case
you
know
it's
a
2.38
million
dollar
project.
The
state
is
contributing
up
to
300k.
I
The
state
incentive
is
drop
jobs
driven.
However,
so
on
a
per
job
basis,
the
state
will
allocate
funds
for
the
number
of
jobs
created.
I
All
jobs
must
be
created
and
maintained
within
18
months
of
the
award,
but
there's
also
a
key
component
here,
which
is
the
requirement
of
a
local
government
match,
but
also
a
local
government
clawback
and
so
on.
The
next
slide
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
that
means.
I
I
If
they're
not
able
to
meet
the
commitments,
long
term,
for
instance,
the
maintaining
employees
for
18
months
as
an
example
or
creating
the
full
number
of
employees,
buncombe
county
would
be
on
the
hook.
For
that
requirement,
the
way
that
we
sort
of
mitigate
this
risk,
I
was
going
to
say,
get
around
it,
but
the
way
we
mitigate
it
is.
We
simply
wait
for
east
fork
to
meet
its
commitments.
I
So,
instead
of
paying
up
front,
we
stick
to
what
is
our
traditional
practice,
which
is
paying
for
performance
so
waiting
until
the
end
to
distribute
those
funds.
In
doing
so,
we
eliminate
the
need
for
a
clawback,
because
we
know
that
we've
been
able
to
meet
the
goals
that
are
required
in
the
grant.
So
that's
our
approach
here
and
that's
how
we'll
we'll
mitigate
the
risk.
I
The
way
that
we've
structured
this
there
are
two
dates
on
this
schedule
and
you
can
see
in
the
far
right.
The
state
grant
amount
we're
proposing
distributing
those
funds
in
two
chunks
of
150k
each
contingent
upon
esport
meeting
the
targets
that
are
identified
in
this
table
related
to
jobs
and
investments.
I
I
No
questions
on
that
I'll
jump
into
the
economic
development
agreement.
The
way
this
kind
of
ties
together
in
order
to
be
able
to
create
the
match
so
that
fifteen
thousand
dollars
the
five
percent
match
for
this
program.
We
needed
a
way
to
sort
of
make
those
funds
available
to
east
fork.
The
way
that
we
do,
that
is
through
our
traditional
economic
development
process,
and
so
that
will
transition
us
into
the
economic
development
agreement.
I
The
incentive
structure
for
this
agreement
is
a
total
of
forty
thousand
dollars.
One-Time
incentives
that
comes
from
two
buckets.
The
first
bucket
is
that
building
reuse
match
of
15k,
and
the
second
bucket
is
the
25k
which
is
associated
with
a
hiring
incentive,
and
so
that
15k
was
required
to
achieve
the
the
building
reuse
grant
from
the
state.
I
It's
still
an
economic
development
incentive,
so
we
still
need
to
have
a
public
hearing
for
it.
But
in
our
conversations
with
east
fork,
we
realized
there
was
an
opportunity
here
to
do
more
and
that
more
specifically
was
on
hiring
from
disadvantaged
populations,
and
so
what
we've
done
in
this
agreement
is
worked
with
east
fork,
and
I
need
to
be
clear.
You
know.
East
fork
has
been
doing
this.
This
work
for
three
years
that
you
know
it's
not
like.
We
showed
up
one
day
and
they
were
like.
Oh,
this
is
great.
Let's
do
it.
I
It
there's
a
commitment
from
east
fork
to
sort
of
create
a
process
on
the
front
end,
but
also
the
supports
throughout
the
process,
so
that
people
can
be
successful
that
are
employed
at
east
fork
and
so
we're
encouraging
that
through
this
process,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
set
up
approximately
25
thousand
dollars
that
can
be
drawn
down
at
the
end
of
the
agreement,
if
east
fork
is
able
to
hire
from
certain
disadvantaged
populations
that
are
identified
in
our
economic
development
policy.
I
The
major
examples
of
those
are
participants
in
our
step
program,
and
so
these
are
folks
that
participate
in
our
food
and
nutrition
program
fns,
who
are
also
working
with
ab
tech.
To
be
re-skilled
or
retrained
so
that
they
can
enter
the
workforce
with
a
new
set
of
skills,
but,
additionally,
our
policy
talks
about
non-violent
offenders
for
our
purposes,
we'll
think
of
that
as
those
that
are
justice
involved.
I
But
if
east
fork's
able
to
demonstrate
at
the
end
of
the
agreement
they've
been
able
to
hire,
they
will
have
the
ability
to
draw
down
an
additional
25
000
that
is
pay
for
performance,
though
so,
if
they
are
unable
to
do
that,
that
25
thousand
dollars
will
never
never
be
dispersed
in
terms
of
the
term
of
this
agreement,
it's
a
four-year
agreement.
So
there's
two
years
that
east
fork
has
to
create
the
capital
investment,
but
the
j
and
the
jobs,
and
then
a
two-year
retention.
I
I
This
is
again
two
confirmation
dates,
the
first
in
april
2022
and
then
in
2023.
You
can
see
if
you
scroll
to
the
far
right
no
payouts
until
year,
two
and
those
payouts
are
broken
out
into
two
buckets.
The
match,
which
is
the
15k,
and
then
the
hiring
grant
which
we
just
discussed
is
the
25k.
I
I
So
that's
exciting
the
increased
value
on
the
in
tax
revenue
that
will
be
achieved
through
that
investment,
there's
no
incentives
that
are
paid
out
until
year,
two
and
we
anticipate
breaking,
even
if,
on
all
of
this
by
year,
five,
I'm
assuming
that
all
incentives
are
drawn
down.
I
As
you
know,
even
beyond
that,
there's
additional
impacts
that
we
like
to
present
just
so
you're,
aware
of
number
that
we
don't
factor
into
our
cash
flows,
and
so
those
are
our
indirect
and
induced
benefits
which
you
see
in
our
table,
and
so
this
refers
to.
You
know
business
to
business
transactions.
You
know,
as
east
fork
works
with
other
commercial
companies
in
in
our
community,
but
also
those
induced
benefits
which
are
the
benefits
of
folks
that
have
good
paying
jobs
spending
money
in
our
community.
I
I
So
with
all
that
said,
we've
gone
through
a
lot
today.
The
request
for
board
action
today
is
the
approval
of
the
the
two
resolutions.
Again,
one
resolution
relates
to
the
economic
development
agreement,
which
is
typically
what
you
see
from
us.
A
All
right,
great
thanks
tim
and
so
do.
We
need
to
hold
a
public
hearing
for
both
the
resolutions
for
consideration
of
both
the
resolutions,
or
is
it
just
for
the
economic.
A
Great
well,
let's
go
ahead
and
hold
the
public
hearing,
so
I'm
going
to
call
the
public
hearing
to
order
at
6
13
p.m.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
comment
on
the
proposed
economic
development
agreement?
P
Don't
know
I
like
microphones,
so
I
just
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
east
fork
because
they're
they're
about
what
they
talking
can
you
can
you
share
your
name,
my
name.
A
P
And
I'm
I
work
at
the
wyoming
cultural
center
as
the
economic
and
workforce
development
director,
where
we're
working
on
closing
the
opportunity
gap.
A
lot
of
people
talk
about
the
achievement
gap,
but
we
all
know
that
we
have
an
opportunity
gap
here
in
buncombe
county
and
so
I've
been
working
with
east
fork
for
several
years.
The
the
relationship
started
when
I
was
working
at
the
community
college
and
they
were
passionate
about
hiring
people
from
the
community,
and
so
they
started
out
hiring
folks
who
were
fresh
out
of
prison.
P
You
know
I
hadn't
seen
that
being
done,
the
way
that
they
done
it.
I
even
heard
something
mentioned
in
here
today
that
caught
me
off
guard
when
I,
when
I
heard
something
about
a
non-violent,
but
you
also
have
violent
folks
who
do
time
and
change
their
life
around
and
come
home
and
need
to
take
care
of
their
families
and
east
fork
has
hired
all
of
them.
I've
sent
folks
to
them
for
the
past
three
years
and
you
know
they
don't
leave.
I've
had
them
hire
folks
that
come
from
asheville
high
school.
P
You
know
because
it
didn't
even
stop
with
providing
opportunities
for
justice
involved.
Alex
was
on
me
one
day
like
hey
man.
Can
we
give
some
opportunities
to
some
of
the
ones
who
are
coming
from
asheville
high?
Because
everybody
was
talking
about
the
achievement
gap?
It
was
like.
Well,
what
can
we
do
about
the
achievement
gap?
I
was
like.
Well,
you
could
hire
one
of
the
ones
that
ain't
going
to
a
four-year
college
and
they've
hired
three.
You
know
they
hired
one
last
year
fresh
out
of
asheville
high
school.
P
He
didn't
work
out
because
he
really
wasn't
job
ready,
but
you
know
the
other.
One
was
washing
dishes
at
a
restaurant
for
two
years
and-
and
I
asked
him
what
did
he
think
about
working
at
a
manufacturer
and
he
went
down
there-
he's
still
working
at
east
fork
and
he's
making
the
most
money
he
probably
made
in
his
life,
because
that
was
his
second
job
after
a
grocery
store,
and
so
I'm
just
here
to
say.
P
I
know
that
they're
really
about
it
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
to
partner
with
them,
because
they
are
serious
about
people
and
building
people
and
and
investing
in
people.
You
know
doing
the
work
that
I
do
with
folks
getting
out
of
prison.
I
see
it
happen
all
the
time
I'm
from
here
from
western
north
carolina,
I'm
a
native,
and
I
see
how
a
lot
of
my
white
friends
when
they
get
out
of
prison,
especially
the
white
males.
P
E
I'm
april
brown,
director
of
industry,
recruitment
and
expansion
for
the
economic
development
coalition
for
asheville
buncombe
county,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
as
you
heard
from
alex
and
phillip,
that
this
company
is
doing
things
differently
and
our
community
is
better
for
it.
I've
been
a
witness
to
these
initial
conversations
that
you've
heard
about
about
equitable
hiring
that
started
over
three
years
ago,
when
they
expanded
to
buncombe
county
from
the
quaint
roots
that
alex
spoke
about
in
in
madison
county,
as
they
were
scaling
up.
E
Production
alex
and
his
founder
team
started
building
relationships
with
the
community
to
improve
and
ultimately
change
how
they
hire
and
employ
people
to
be
more
accessible
and
equitable
for
people
with
diverse
backgrounds
and
lived
experiences,
and
now,
even
during
our
current
labor
market,
when
businesses
and
employers
are
struggling
to
fill
open
positions,
when
you
ask
them
if
they're
having
a
hard
time
filling
positions,
the
answer
is
a
profound.
No,
that
doesn't
mean
that
it's
easy
for
them
to
the
contrary.
E
They
are
a
model
employer
for
buncombe,
county
and
beyond.
We
are
grateful
for
esports
growth
and
investment
in
this
community.
With
your
support
tonight
alex
and
his
team
are
building
upon
this
foundation
and
charting
their
course
for
the
next
generation
of
success,
expansion
and
job
creation
here
in
buncombe
county.
This
is
the
kind
of
employer
we
we
will,
that
will
help
the
next
generation
to
stay
and
build
their
careers
and
their
lives
and
at
the
in
their
homes
in
buncombe
county.
E
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
hearing
at
6
19
p.m.
Is
there
any
additional
information
we
need
before
we
take
up
the
resolutions
right,
commissioners,
we
need
to
consider
two
different
resolutions.
A
The
first
resolution
is
the
resolute
resolution
authorizing
buncombe
county
to
pay
the
economic
development
incentives
and
to
authorize
the
execution
of
the
economic
development
agreement
and,
and
then
the
second
one
which
we'll
vote
on
separately,
would
be
a
resolution
authorizing
buncombe
county
to
cooperate
with
east
fork,
pottery
llc,
and
to
participate
in
the
north
carolina
department
of
commerce
building
reuse
grant
program,
as
has
been
described.
F
Brownie,
I
move
that
we
authorize
buncombe
county
to
pay
economic
development
development
incentives
and
to
sign
the
economic
development
agreement,
including
modification
for
to
facility
location
for
esport,
and
I'd
like
to
say
in
the
five
years
now
I've
been
on
the
commission.
A
N
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
resolution
regarding
building
reuse,
the
building
reuse,
grant.
M
A
A
A
Next
up
is
ms
pender.
Are
there
any
items
under
the
county?
Manager's
report
very
good
next
item
under
old
business?
Is
the
north
carolina
association
of
county
commissioners
voting
delegate.
I
think
we
discussed
this
at
our
last
meeting.
A
There's
a
need
for
the
commission
to
appoint
a
member
of
our
commission
to
represent
us
at
the
annual
conference.
The
annual
meeting
and
commissioner
wells
has
expressed
interest
in
doing
that
so,
and
I
don't
think
anyone
else
has
raised.
E
A
I'd
like
to
nominate
commissioner
wells
to
be
our
voting
delegate
at
the
annual
meeting.
N
A
A
A
A
A
Q
How
about
I
give
it
a
try
and
then
you
ad-lib,
if
we
need
to
thank
you.
So
as
chairman
newman
mentioned
earlier,
we
had
a
budget
amendment
request
for
today's
meeting
on
the
consent
agenda.
Pending
approval
of
the
school
capital
fund
commission,
we
have
revised
the
budget
amendment
to
reflect
the
approval,
as
outlined
by
the
school
capital
fund
commission
and
in
alignment
with
their
established
charter
enrolls.
Q
The
amendment
is
as
follows:
the
asheville
high
classroom
project
is
currently
budgeted
as
three
phases,
so
you'll
see
it
reflected
with
the
design
and
assessment
with
a
budget
geotech
and
inspection
inspections
and
other
as
a
budget
and
the
construction
phase.
As
a
budget
after
the
bids
were
received,
the
construction
phase
is
estimated
to
be
598
508
dollars
more
than
originally
estimated.
Q
Obviously,
due
to
some
the
associated
rising
construction
costs,
there
is
remaining
available
budget
from
the
design
and
assessment
and
geotech
and
inspections
and
other
phases
totaling.
Four
hundred
and
forty
eight
thousand
five
hundred
and
eight
dollars
the
school
capital
fund
commission
agreed
that
the
remaining
available
budget
from
design
and
assessment
and
the
geotech
and
inspection
slash
other,
can
be
moved
to
the
construction
phase.
Q
So
the
verbiage
that
was
outlined
in
the
consent
agenda
didn't
exactly
reflect
that
verbage
and
we
wanted
to
be
consistent.
So
that
is
the
reason
for
presenting
you
with
this
revised
or
updated
information,
and
so
with
that,
we
would
just
request
that
the
budget
amendment
be
approved
for
the
school
capital
commission
fund,
as
outlined.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
jennifer
and,
as
was
mentioned,
the
school
capital
fund
commission
reviewed
this
at
our
meeting
this
week
and
is
unanimously
supporting
this
recommendation.
Are
there
any
questions.
F
A
Yes,
that's
right,
that's
right,
and
the
only
other
detail
I
would
add
is
that,
although
the
budget
did
come,
the
price
the
bids
did
come
in
over
budget,
I
think
the
county's
staff
and
the
others
who
were
involved
in
the
project
actually
felt
very
positive
about
the
bids
that
came
in
and
the
current
context
that
we
are
in
right
now
with
so
many
construction
costs
really
being
challenging.
A
There
was
a
lot
of
concern
that
the
bids
would
be
significantly
greater
than
were
earlier
budgeted,
so
they
actually
think
we
have
a
very
solid
bid
on
this
project
and
we're
it's
a
it's
a
good
project
to
move
forward
on.
At
this
time.
A
F
Q
A
D
This
is
simply
a
request
for
the
board
to
delegate
to
the
county
manager
the
authority
to
enter
into
leases
for
terms
of
one
year
or
less
generally,
the
the
general
statutes
require
that
any
lease
of
more
than
one
year
come
before
the
board
and
a
formal
resolution
be
passed,
stating
that
the
property
isn't
needed
for
county
business
or
offices
at
this
time
and
would
like
to
enter
into
a
lease
of
the
property
and
there'd
be
30
day
required
notice
in
advance,
stating
the
terms
the
general
use
and
that
again
that
it
was
surplus
property.
D
So
this
would
really
be
used
for
circumstances
like
the
very
small
office
that
the
county
leases
to
pisgah
legal
services
one
year
at
a
time
over
in
the
courthouse
for
mortgage-related
meetings
or
leasehold
interest
problems,
and
it's
for
our
small
recurring
program
partners
for
small
space
leases
generally
or
for
community
club
properties.
So
we
just
asked
the
board's
approval
to
delegate
that
authority
to
the
county
manager.
F
N
R
Good
evening,
commissioners
tim
was
right.
You
are
hearing
a
lot
more
from
the
arts
tonight
than
usual
very,
very
excited
about
the
east
fork
project.
So,
as
brownie
said,
we
are
coming
before
you
with
a
resolution
to
name
us
the
designated
arts
agency
for
buncombe
county.
This
is
a
bit
of
an
oversight
which
we're
hoping
to
correct
and
I'll
explain
more
about
that
in
a
minute,
but
we've
been
the
only
arts
council
in
buncombe
county
since
1979.
R
The
reason
that
we're
coming
for
you
tonight
is
because
we
have
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
nea
funding
national
endowment
for
the
arts,
additional
american
rescue
plan
funding
for
our
county
to
redistribute
to
local
arts
agencies
very
exciting.
But,
as
you
see,
the
application
deadline
is
the
22nd
of
this
month.
So
we
kind
of
need
to
move
quickly
on
this,
so
americans
for
the
arts
defines
local
arts
agencies
role
as
to
promote
support
and
develop
the
arts
in
our
communities.
R
R
We
formed
as
a
subcommittee
of
the
junior
league
in
1953
and
became
an
official
non-profit
in
1979
asheville
area.
Arts
council
has
been
recognized
since
1979
as
the
designated
arts
agency
for
buncombe
county
at
the
state
level,
and
at
that
time
we
would
have
had
to
get
some
approval
from
the
county.
We
just
can't
find
the
official
documentation.
H
R
R
I
want
to
give
you
a
brief
overview.
It's
not
advancing.
Okay
of
the
arts
pre-covered.
We
just
put
out
a
comprehensive
report.
Looking
at
creative
jobs
in
buncombe,
county
pre-pandemic
in
may,
and
so
you'll
see,
the
creative
industry.
Jobs
in
buncombe
county
grew
24
percent.
During
that
period,
over
14
000
jobs
and
in
2019
creative
industry
sales
had
reached
1.6
billion
representing
44
growth.
So
early
next
year,
we're
going
to
follow
this
up
with
a
post
pandemic
report.
For
you
now
before
the
pandemic,
we
had
also
emerged.
R
The
performing
arts
had
emerged
as
a
high
performance
clash,
cluster
for
asheville
metro
as
well.
Now
we'll
look
post-pandemic
or
the
effects
of
the
pandemic.
According
to
americans
for
the
arts,
66
percent
of
arts
businesses
in
north
carolina
were
severely
impacted
by
the
pandemic
and
65
of
creative
workers
in
north
carolina
experienced
unemployment.
R
So
the
arts,
entertainment
and
recreation
sector
was
the
top
creative
sector
growing
53
percent.
During
that
period
of
our
study,
this
was
double
the
growth
of
the
construction
industry
during
that
same
period
of
time,
but
fast
forward,
you'll
see
that
we
also
experienced
the
greatest
percentage
of
employment
loss
in
buncombe
county
from
2019
to
2020.
R
R
The
buncombe
county
tourism,
jobs,
recovery
fund,
57,
arts
and
entertainment
businesses
received
funding
there.
That's
about
14.5
percent
and
the
state
of
north
carolina
used
a
portion
of
their
cares
funding.
Last
year,
9.4
million
dollars
went
to
the
north
carolina
arts
council
and
was
distributed
to
the
counties
on
a
per
capita
basis.
R
The
asheville
area
arts
council
received
about
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
which
we
re-granted
to
36
our
organizations
on
behalf
of
the
county.
These
are
some
of
the
needs
and
concerns
that
are
still
affecting
the
arts
and
sector
right.
Now,
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
this
for
the
sake
of
time,
but
I
thought
you
should
see
them
so
what's
before
you
tonight
is
the
requested
resolution
to
designate
asheville
area
arts
council
as
a
destiny
arts
agency
for
buncombe
county.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation.
Is
there
a
motion.
C
A
A
All
right
next
item
is
a
resolution.
S
Good
evening,
chair
commissioners,
members
of
the
public,
it's
with
great
joy
that
we're
here
tonight
it's
been
a
long
time
going,
but
we're
here
tonight
to
bring
you
both
a
resolution
draft
contract.
We
have
a
very
short
presentation
and
then
the
ask
is
to
have
you
vote
on
the
resolution
to
have
the
county
manager
and
the
planning
department
enter
into
contract
with
clarion
and
associates.
Who
would
be
the
chosen
consultant
and
we'll
kind
of
go
through
the
process
of
how
we
arrived
at
this
point
tonight?
Jillian
will
get
us
started.
B
So,
just
to
review
for
you
what
the
consultant's
role
is
going
to
be
in
this
process,
the
consultant
will
guide
the
comprehensive
planning
process
and
provide
services
and
support
to
help
with
the
creation
of
the
plan.
So
examples
of
tasks
the
consultants
would
complete
would
be
helping
our
cape
department
design
and
carry
out
public
carry
out
the
public
engagement
process.
B
So
the
process
that
staff
went
through
to
to
choose
clarion
is,
in
april
of
this
year
the
county
issued
an
rfp,
and
we
received
five
proposals.
We
formed
a
selection
committee.
It
included
our
our
planning
board
chairwoman,
nancy
waldrop
and
staff
from
cape,
the
planning
department,
the
county,
manager's
office,
the
agricultural
and
land
resources
department,
the
library
director
and
again
nancy.
Our
planning
planning
board
chair
each
proposal
was
scored
based
on
the
requirements
laid
forth
in
the
rfp.
B
S
Thank
you
so
from
this
point
forward,
jillian
went
how
we
got
to
this
point
now
so
tonight
we're
here
before
you
with
the
contract
itself
in
its
draft
form.
Once
you
take
action
tonight.
Well,
then,
of
course
you've
got
the
job
of
selecting
the
steering
committee
that
will
work
directly
with
with
staff
the
consultant
planning
board
and,
ultimately
you
as
commissioners,
and
serve
as
a
conduit.
S
So
those
that
understand
some
of
the
unique
challenges
that
face
us
and
that
being
said,
they
scored
the
highest
through
our
process.
They
have
a
proven
track
record
across
both
the
state
and
north
carolina
and
across
the
united
states.
I
think
you
will
be
pleased
with
this
choice
with
that
being
said,
you
also
have
in
your
packet
a
budget
amendment
which
jennifer
can
walk
us
through
as
well.
There
is
both
the
we've
been
in
contract
negotiations
with
clarion.
S
There
is
the
set
budget,
there's
also
broken
out
some
optional
services
and
the
reason
that
we
did
it.
That
way
is
we
felt
it
was
important,
given
some
of
the
passionate
conversations
we're
going
to
have
moving
forward,
that
there
be
the
opportunity
to
have
some
extra
ad
hoc
if
we
need
additional
public
hearings
or
if
we
need
more
public
engagement,
that
we
also
price
those
in,
so
that
you
can
see
them
and
with
that
being
said,
that
concludes
our
presentation.
N
The
slot
the
last
slide-
you
mentioned
the
subcontractors
and
there's
logos
up
there.
Can
you
opine
a
little
more
on
what
you
you
meant
by
they're,
bringing
them
along
and
what
their.
S
Sure
and
the
way
that's
broken
up
is
in
the
rfp
itself,
but
I
can
just
run
through
them:
traffic
planning
and
design.
These
are
the
christies
christy
stout,
christy
carter,
they're,
located
just
on
charlotte
street
they'll,
be
looking
at
things
like
public
transportation.
Obviously,
traffic
comes
up
in
just
about
every
public
hearing
that
we
we
hear
about.
We
have
a
very
limited
infrastructure,
nemac
fern,
leaf,
interesting
fun
fact
about
them
is
years
ago.
They
helped
us
with
steep
slope,
protected
ridge,
understanding
how
those
ordinances
got
into
place.
They
also
developed
the
steep
slope.
S
Calculator
they've
looked
at
things
like
landslide
potential,
so
these
are
environmental
experts
with
this
group
equinox.
This
should
sound
familiar
to
you.
Equinox
is
working
with
us
on
our
ferry
road
project.
They
bring
with
them
a
local
presence.
I've
worked
with
david
tuck
who's.
The
senior
president
of
that
company
for
years
on
various
projects
have
a
great
understanding
of
that
all
important
thing
called
slope
and
some
of
our
flooding
issues
and
other
environmental
constraints.
S
Our
rc
associates
is
a
as
a
subcontractor
that
specializes
in
tourism
issues.
I've
worked
with
a
number
of
other
gateway
communities
across
the
united
states,
including
places
like
jackson,
hole
communities
in
colorado,
florida
keys
communities
that
really
struggle
with
finding
that
balance
between
the
residents
and
tourists
and
esp
esp
I've
worked
with
esp
for
years
as
a
floodplain
manager.
They
are
very
good.
They
just
helped
us
with
our
hazard
mitigation
plan
actually
and
nathan
slaughter.
Also,
I
see
him
at
flood
conferences
and
they
work
with
the
state
on
flood
mapping.
S
N
B
B
Phase
one:
the
launch
is
thirty,
eight
thousand
dollars.
Just
to
give
you
an
example:
what
gets
expensive
in
when
you're
talking
about
comprehensive
planning
and
planning
consultants
is
the
public
engagement.
B
We
put
a
heavy
focus
in
on
that
in
the
rfp,
so
the
esta
phase,
two
established
the
visions
and
goals,
is
ninety
about
ninety
thousand
dollars
and
then
phase
three
develop
policies
and
strategies
is
about
158
000
and
those
would
be
our
two
phases
that
were
really
heavy
in
public
engagement.
Okay,.
N
B
So
we
did,
we
did
add
the
up
one
of
our
options:
the
optional
services
that
we
are
requesting,
they
add,
is
additional
public
input
workshops
and
we
did
request
that
the
principals
in
those
firms
be
involved
in
those
public
input
workshops,
so
we've
budgeted
in
three
additional
public
input
sessions
if
we
need
them.
Okay,.
N
I'll
just
say
one
last
comment:
that's
that
when
you
kind
of
add
up
these
four
phases
on
the
high
end
of
those
quantity
of
months,
we're
talking
about
you
know
over
we're
talking
about
two
and
a
half
years.
I
think
that's
just
dramatically
too
long
in
my
mind,
in
my
opinion,
so
I
guess
I
just
love
to
say
out
loud
I'd,
love
to
see
the
the
shorter
end
for
those
phase.
One
and
phase
two
in
terms.
N
B
A
F
E
A
With
professional
services,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed.
Is
there
a
motion
regarding
the
associated
budget
amendments.
A
A
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
a
resolution
authorizing
the
execution
of
an
interlocal
agreement
between
the
city
of
asheville
to
between
buckham
county
and
the
city
of
asheville,
to
establish
a
homeowner
grant
program
and
phillip
hardin,
former
health
and
human
services
office
will
explain
this
item.
M
Good
evening,
commissioners,
chair
back
to
talk
about
the
homeowner
grant
program
again,
and
we
was
here
june
15th
and
presented
an
option
about
this
program.
M
M
M
It
was
an
annual
grant
amount
was,
would
only
cover
the
tax
bill,
increase
buncombe
county
residents,
only
primary
length
of
residences
a
year
at
80
percent
of
the
ami,
and
then
we
require
income
documentation
unless
they
were
receiving
means-tested
programs
through
hhs
to
where
we
already
had
their
income
verified
and
then
no
duplication
of
benefits
with
existing
exemption
programs
that
those
four
exemption
programs
exist
already.
M
So
there
are
questions
about
option.
One
now
we'll
go
on
to
option
two,
and
this
is
the
requested
and
recommended
option
that
we
bring
for
you
today
grant
amount
up
to
250
dollars.
Still
an
annual
grant
amount,
here's
where
it
differs
a
little
bit
too
tax
bill
or
other
homeowner
costs,
and
that
could
be
things
such
as
mortgage
or
homeowners.
Insurance
still
have
to
be
in
buncombe
county.
M
And
then
the
next
steps
the
budget
has
already
been
adopted
with
the
300
000
included,
I'm
here
this
evening
to
to
discuss
those
options.
Again
we
have
a
deadline
of
july,
the
23rd.
If
we
want
something
to
go
out
in
the
tax
bills
that
go
out
in
mid-august,
we
have
a
deadline
of
the
23rd
to
get
that
flyer
done
so
that
it
can
be
mail.
M
M
The
deadline
for
applications
would
be
november,
the
15th
and
our
intention
would
be
to
come
back
to
the
board
on
december
the
7th
and
give
a
status
update
of
the
program.
At
that
point,
we
would
have
received
all
the
applications
at
that
point.
M
There
there
is,
it
kind
of
depends
on
how
you
include
if
you,
if
you
exclude
the
exemption
pieces
of
it,
so
it
probably
varies
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood.
I've
seen
the
figure
of
199
and
I've
also
seen
the
figure
of
like
297
or
so
somewhere
in
between
that
probably
two
and
hundred
dollar
range
for
county
only
increase
great.
C
Well,
as
we
kick
off
the
discussion
I'd
like
to-
and
I
guess
I'll
package
this
in
a
motion,
I
might
need
some
assistance
with
this.
Just
to
make
sure
I
do
it
right.
But
I
understand
the
resolution
refers
to
the
interlocal
agreement.
C
So
I
think
the
the
motion
or
the
the
amendment
I'd
like
to
actually
make
is
to
the
inter-local
agreement
that
we
raise
that
amount
to
300
the
rationale
behind.
That
is
that
if
we
know
the
average
is
somewhere
between
two
and
three
hundred,
we
know
there's
a
cluster
of
folks
who
would
fall
between
251
dollars
and
300,
and
this
provides
the
ability
to
offer
a
little
bit
of
additional
assistance
to
those
folks
while
still
staying
within.
I
think
the
overall
spirit
of
of
setting
the
amount
at
this
level.
C
A
All
right!
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I'm
I'm
glad
we're
doing
this.
I
think
this
is
a
new
idea
for
our
community.
I
think
we're
going
to
learn
a
lot
from
doing
it
and
I'm
glad
we're
going
to
thoroughly
evaluate
it.
A
You
know
what
works
well,
what
doesn't
work
well,
some
other
places
have
tried
to
do
some
things
to
provide
some
financial
relief
for
folks
who
are
in
parts
of
the
state
that
have
seen
cost
of
living,
go
up
for
a
variety
of
reasons
in
significant
ways,
and-
and
they
haven't
worked
out
that
well
and
at
least
in
some
some
of
the
different
efforts
didn't
work
out
that
well
didn't
have
as
much
participation,
perhaps
as
they
would
have
desired
things
like
that.
A
So
I
think
I'm
glad
we're
doing
the
inserts
and
things
like
that,
so
that
the
property
owners
in
the
county
will
be
notified
about
this
and
will
help
get
the
word
out
so
anyway.
I'm
glad
we're
doing
this
and-
and
I
think
we'll
learn
a
lot
from
it
and
we
can
make
adjustments
based
on
what
we
see
working
well
and
if.
H
T
Do
we
have
any
idea
how
many
people
were
estimated
would
be
eligible
for
this,
because
if
it's
between
200
and
300
dollars,
I
like
the
250
number-
I
know
we've
already
got
a
motion
300.
We
could
be
eliminating
some
people
that
this
could
be
very
important
for
them
to
get
through.
C
My
preference
would
be
that
we
create
that
ability
to
go
up
to
300
and
then
at
the
status
update.
We
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
based
on
what
we're
seeing
in
terms
of
how
many
people
are
actually
applying
to
the
program,
and
so
that
would
be
my
preference
to
keep
the
motion
us
or
keep
the
amended.
M
A
A
I
think
we
don't
really
know
how
many
folks
are
going
to
seek
go
through
the
process
which
we're
going
to
try
to
make
real
user
friendly,
and
you
know
the
demand
could
be
very
large,
so
it
may
be
that
that
we
do
either
250
or
300
that
we
we
don't
reach
everyone
who
might
be
eligible,
but
it's
the
first
time
we've
done
it.
So
I
just-
and
you
know
I
think
we
will
learn
a
lot
from
it.
I
mean
it
might
be
that
we
realize
hey.
A
If
you
want
to
continue
this
in
the
future,
we
would
have
to
to
invest
more,
I'm
comfortable
with
emotion,
but
I
appreciate
the
concern
because
there
is
the
potential
that
it
won't
reach
everyone.
If
we
go
with
a
higher
number.
M
The
other
piece
I
didn't
say
that
I
think
is
important,
tried
to
mimic
this
program
a
little
bit
on
existing
programs
that
we
have
and
probably
of
all
the
programs
we
administer
at
hhs
this.
This
program
probably
mirrors
our
county
general
assistance
program,
the
most
and
our
our
income
limit
for
that
program
is
300.
A
A
And
first
up
is
the
early
childhood
education
and
development
fund
committee.
I
know
folks
from
that
group
have
been
working
on
reviewing
these.
Would
someone
like
to
maybe
give
us
a
report.
C
Yeah
we
had
the
opportunity
to
conduct
interviews
today
and
just
want
to
take
a
moment
to
say
thank
you
to
everyone
who
applied.
It
was
a
very
compelling
and
an
exciting
candidate
pool.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
appoint
two
folks
to
the
committee
and
those
two
people
are
mark
taft
and
linda
mcdaniel.
F
A
Thank
you
all.
Thanks
for
your
work
on
this
appreciate
everyone
serving
on
this
important
committee.
Next
up
is
the
economic
development
coalition.
A
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
under
mount
area.
Workforce
development,
advisory
we've
got
one
appointment,
I'll
recommend
we
appoint
eric
watts
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
and
under
the
mountain
community
capital
fund
operating
committee.
There's
one
appointment
and
I'll
make
a
motion
to
appoint
maui
vang.
N
A
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
We've
got
a
couple
of
announcements
on
july
15th
at
9am.
The
county
commissioners
will
have
a
special
meeting
to
interview
applicants
for
the
comprehensive
plan
steering
committee
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
and
on
july
20th
at
9
00
am
the
county.
Commissioners
will
hold
another
special
meeting
to
review
additional
applicants
for
the
comprehensive
plan
steering
committee
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
on
august
3rd
at
3
pm.
A
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
their
briefing
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville
and
on
august
3rd
at
5
pm.
The
county
commissioners
will
hold
the
next
regular
meeting
at
200
college
street
room
326
in
downtown
asheville.
We
do
have
a
need
for
a
what's
expected
to
be
a
very
brief
closed
session.
D
Yes,
this
is
going
to
close
session
pursuant
to
143
318
11,
a
3
to
discuss
an
attorney-client
matter.
This
is
involving
and
I'll
get
to
the
clerk.
The
site,
the
purdue
pharma
opioid
related
bankruptcy
case
is
chapter
11
case
number
19-23649
out
of
the
southern
district
of
new
york,
and
I
just
need
some
direction
from
the
board.