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From YouTube: Board of Commissioners' Meeting - 10/15/2013
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Buncombe County Board of Commissioners held their meeting on Tuesday, October 15, 2013. Agenda topics included:
Good News
Special Recognition of Alex Destino
Susan Roderick Day
Proclamation of Crimestoppers Month
County Receives LGFCU Excellence in Innovation Award for DSS Meeting Garden
Public Hearing
Rezoning Request Teresa Beeman 9618.93.0359
Economic Development Incentive for Plasti-card
Close out of the Scattered Site Rehabilitation Grant
County Manager's Report
Government Shutdown Impact
New Business
Budget Amendment: Fund 10 - Social Services Grants $512,699; Economic Development $30,000
A
A
It's
a
joy
to
be
with
them
and
to
serve
with
them,
and
god
help
us
to
appreciate
everything
you
give
us
every
day,
even
the
little
things
amen
in
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
commission,
it's
the
duty
of
every
commissioner
to
avoid
actual
and
potential
conflicts
of
interest.
Does
any
commissioner
know
of
any
potential
or
actual
conflict
of
interest
with
respect
to
any
matter
coming
before
us
today?.
C
A
A
Commissioners
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
matters
during
public
comment.
This
is
your
time
to
talk
to
us.
Comments
should
be
limited
to
subjects
that
are
within
the
jurisdiction
of
our
board
and
pertain
to
matters
upon
which
we
can
act
on
any
individual.
Speaking
during
public
comment
should
address
the
entire
board.
Any
polling
or
individual
questions
to
board
members
is
inappropriate.
A
Persons
addressing
the
board
are
expected
to
observe
the
decorum
of
the
chamber
and
be
respectful
to
everyone
in
the
room,
whether
you
agree
with
their
opinion
or
not
any
person
who
willfully
interrupts
disturbs
or
disrupts.
The
session
will
be
asked
to
leave
the
meeting
and
this
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
any
subject
previously
presented
to
the
commission.
A
D
D
Got
a
concern
about
cra.
You
ever
heard
that
acronym
for
cultural
recreation
authority.
D
Even
at
that
point
in
time
the
county
commissioners
were
saying:
why
don't
we
work
together
to
sit
in
the
county
at
that
point
in
time
there
was
a
lot
of
hugging,
necks
and
patting
backs
and
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
that
the
city
and
the
county
could
work
together,
but
now
it
turned
into
a
lawsuit
with
the
water.
D
Now,
where
we
at
we're
divided
again,
we
got
the
county
pushing
their
muscle,
saying
we
are
the
cra,
the
city,
don't
matter.
Thank
you,
miss
jones.
For
trying
to
make
that
point
and
as
a
citizen,
I'm
telling
you,
I
think
it's
pretty
sorry
for
a
board
to
claim
to
be
partners
with
the
city
and
treat
them
like
you're
treating
them.
They
deserve
a
part
on
the
board.
They
need
to
be
represented
on
the
board
and
thank
you,
miss
jones
for
doing
that.
To
try
to
get
some
leverage
for
the
people
of
the
city.
D
There's
80,
000
people
or
87
000
people
in
the
city
of
asheville
and
the
culture
and
recreation
authority
means
a
lot
more
to
them
in
many
ways
because
of
their
confined
establishment
being
in
the
city
limits
and
not
having
the
means
that
the
county
people
has
to
get
out
in
the
woods
and
do
things
and
and
hit
the
nature
trails
and
do
a
lot
of
things.
D
A
Thank
you,
mr
rice.
Any
other
gentleman
in
the
blue
shirt
any
other
public
comment
tonight.
Yes,
sir,
mr
jarrett,
we'll
have
you
next
after
this
gentleman.
E
Good
afternoon,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
commissioners,
my
name
is
edwin
holmes.
I
live
recently
moved
up
here
to
bangkok,
county,
my
wife
peter,
and
I
purchased
a
house
in
black
oak
drive,
which
is
right
out
of
the
city
of
asheville
city
limits
by
the
montgomery
county
in
july.
An
unfortunate
event
happened
in
our
neighborhood
during
the
amount
of
rainfall
that
occurred
in
the
summer
time,
one
of
the
houses
in
the
neighborhood
a
lot
was
unstable.
E
In
the
meantime,
the
county
was
starting
to
the
process
to
condemn
the
house
and
take
further
action
to
make
the
world
free
again
working
with
engineers
from
outside
from
the
association
and
resulting
in
reopening
the
road.
But
still
the
house
is
sitting
there
from
my
point
poising
pointing
to
a
public
danger.
It
can
slide
down
any
time.
E
E
Still,
I
know
that
the
county
is
working
on
a
solution
for
that
lot,
and
I
understand
that
from
the
condemnation
order,
the
county
of
bonkambe
has
responsibility
to
stabilize
that
lot
clear.
That
lot
eventually
removed
that
house
and
from
what
I
would
understand
that
the
county
public
working
staff
is
working
on
a
solution
for
that
and
also,
I
think,
that's
on
a
closed
agenda
today
with
county
staff.
So
I
really
urge
you
county
commissioners,
please
do
something
about
that.
E
F
General
patton
said
the
best
defense
was
attacked,
so
I'm
telling
you
right
up
front.
I
need
your
help
and
I
don't
need
my
cell
phone.
I
thought
I
turned
it
off.
I
need
the
help
of
this
important,
powerful
group
to
help
us
four
lane
safely.
Four
lane
is
designed
by
our
fine
d.o.t
people,
leicester
highway
and
without
your
help,
I'm
an
old
85
year
old,
disabled
korean
veteran,
but
without
y'all's
help
we
will
never
live
to
see.
F
Leicester
highway,
four
lanes,
country
boy
born
a
little
log
cabin
down
in
madison
county
69-acre
farm
marshall,
high
school
brielle
college
uncle
sam
sent
me
a
note,
37
years
with
norfolk,
southern
and
and
then
we'll
come
back
home
and
leave
a
little
house
out
in
leicester
and
we
joined
mr
gordon
myers,
our
former
commissioner,
mr
allen,
thornberg
our
former
commissioner
miss
mr
dave
brown.
Our
president,
commissioner,
sheriff
van
duken
got
up
in
our
meeting
last
tuesday
night,
one
of
the
most
five
dangerous
highways
in
madison
county.
F
F
It's
it's
surprising
to
me
that
we
have
red
lights,
but
we
don't
need
roundabouts,
but
anyway,
and
we
have
some
people
in
our
community,
a
small
group,
three
or
four
that
I
think
are
being
privately
funded
in
opposition.
But
I
have
here
with
me
today.
F
And
I
believe
I
have
seven
copies
of
a
petition
that
is
signed
by
over
three
600
members
of
the
leicester
community.
I
don't
read
very
well:
I've
got
48
seconds,
but
with
the
leicester
community
2200
cars
a
day,
1500
students
traveled
the
dot
said
we
had
575
accidents
in
the
last
five
years,
245
with
injuries
13
fatalities.
F
A
A
G
My
name
is
amanda
hall
and
I
live
at
156
black
oak
drive.
I
was
here
back
in
august,
I'm
here
again
tonight
about
the
landslide
on
black
oak
drive,
and
I
understand
this
has
been
a
complicated
and
difficult
situation,
but
I
really
hope
some
action
will
be
taken
in
the
very
near
future.
The
residents
both
above
and
below
the
slide
have
been
patient
and
hopeful
for
months
now
and
as
we
stare
down
the
reality
of
winter,
we
need
some
resolution.
G
We
have
been
under
the
threat
of
this
slide
since
early
july
and
had
the
road
access
cut
off
july
10th,
it
is
now
october
15th.
I
know
everyone
on
staff
and
the
county
commissioners
want
this
situation
resolved
for
everyone's
safety,
and
it's
my
sincere
hope
that
you
can
do
that
today
or
certainly
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
A
H
Hi
I'm
robert
maluso.
I
live
at
145
black
oak
with
my
wife,
bonnie
and
first
I'd
like
to
thank
jerry,
vihan
matt,
stone
the
local
fire
department.
We
moved
here
in
june
the
very
end
of
june
a
week
before
the
slide
welcome
to
asheville,
but
we
do
love
it
here
anyway,
and
I
got
to
tell
you
what,
in
the
middle
of
a
disaster
a
neighborhood
disaster,
everybody
in
the
county
just
stepped
up
in
a
big
big
way.
The
fire
department
was
unbelievable.
H
They
made
sure
we
had
the
limited
access
we
could
have
to
emergency
services,
but-
and
we've
done
everything
we
can
as
it
could
can
to
this
point.
As
a
community
we've
hired
our
own
engineers
who
you're
also
working
with
kessel,
we
built
a
temporary
curbing
to
stop
the
water
from
going
down
onto
the
property
ourselves
one
day
in
the
middle
of
a
deluge.
So
as
a
community,
I
think
we've
really
stepped
up
and
done
everything
we
possibly
can.
H
H
I
agree
with
as
well
the
emergency
services,
if
there's
a
fire,
a
big,
a
fire
truck,
can't
get
up
to
our
house
to
put
out
a
big
fire
and
another
concern
that
hasn't
come
up
is
there's
no
door,
there's
no
front
door
on
145
black
oak.
That's
the
house,
that's
sliding
and
there
hasn't
been
a
door
in
the
house
for
about
probably
a
month
and
a
half.
So
who
knows
what's
living
in
that
house
or
who's
living
in
that
house?
H
I
My
name
is
keith
campbell.
I
live
in
the
same
community
142
black
oak
in
buncombe
county
on
july
6,
a
sinkhole
in
a
landslide
developed
that
effectively
destroyed
the
residence
of
145
black
oak,
also
known
as
property.
Four
days
later,
two
larger
landslides
occurred,
cutting
off
the
road
at
two
points.
Initially,
local
residents
abandoned
their
homes
for
fear.
Their
safety
is
advised
by
local
authorities
for
the
first
two
and
a
half
months
after
the
slide,
the
residents
of
the
area
parked
halfway
up
the
mountain
and
walked
the
rest,
the
way
up
to
their
homes.
I
For
the
last
month,
a
narrow,
bulldozed
axis
way
has
allowed
residents
to
drive
to
their
homes.
The
access
is
too
narrow
for
many
vehicles,
so
residents
of
the
area
are
not
receiving
mail,
garbage
service,
delivery,
service,
etc.
I'm
not
measured,
but
it
would
be
a
very
tight
squeeze
to
get
a
large
ambulance
through
the
opening
through
the
opening.
In
the
slide,
the
landslides
were
due
to
the
record
amount
of
rain
that
we
received
in
early
july.
I
According
to
the
geological
reports
that
I've
reviewed
145
black
oak
was
built
on
a
natural
ravine
on
top
of
phil,
some
of
the
fill
was
from
a
previous
landslide
145
black
oak
was
a
problem
waiting
to
happen.
Therefore,
the
landslide
landslides
were
not
a
road
issue
and
not
a
neighborhood
issue.
It
was
a
lot
issue.
145
black
oak
was
now
properly
engineered
to
withstand
the
degree
of
rain.
We
had
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
fared
well
without
damage,
black
oak
cannot
be
totally
cleared
and
repaired
until
the
eaton
residence
is
removed.
I
I
My
understanding
is
that
the
information
necessary
to
bring
this
process
of
of
removing
the
house
and
repairing
the
slope
is
ready
for
the
county
commissioners
to
consider.
I
respectfully
request
prompt
attention
to
this
matter.
The
residents
of
black
go
fear
further,
live
slides
that
pose
a
risk
to
the
people
who
live
below
the
slides.
I
The
black
oak
neighborhood
has
been
in
contact
with
with
our
state
and
federal
legislators
regarding
obtaining
funding
to
help
pay
for
the
need
and
repairs.
We
have
been
told
by
the
office
of
senator
martin
nesbitt
that
western
north
carolina
has
been
designated
a
disaster
area
due
to
the
heavy
rains
and
that
monies
are
available
to
help
for
needed
repairs.
Perhaps
these
funds
are
available
to
help
remove
145
black
oak
and
to
stabilize
the
slope
throughout
this
process.
The
county
staff
has
been
most
helpful.
I
would
especially
like
to
thank
matt
stone.
I
A
A
All
right,
if
not,
we
will,
we
have
had
a
request
to
pull
the
budget
amendment
and
grant
project
ordinance
and
put
that
into
new
business
other
than
that
change.
Is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
the
agenda
as
we've
presented,
it
been
a
motion
by
commissioner
frost
to
second
by
vice
chair
jones.
Is
there
any
discussion
all
those
in
favor
of
the
amendment
as
as
the
agenda
as
amended,
say:
aye?
Okay,
all
opposed?
No,
then
we
will
proceed
by
7-0
vote
first
matter
is
we
have
good
news.
We
have
special
recognition
for
alex
destino.
A
A
J
Alex
I'm
proud
to
do
this:
north
buncombe
and
our
district
from
buncombe
county
commissioners
regarding
in
honor
of
alex
destino,
2013
ibf,
world
cup
gold
medalist
on
behalf
of
the
citizens
of
buncombe
county.
This
board
does
hereby
express
our
sincere
appreciation,
honor
and
pride
in
your
accomplishment
as
a
governmental
recipient.
J
K
Thank
you,
everybody
and
I
don't.
I
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
to
say,
but
it
was
a
really
really
cool
experience,
especially
being
from
a
smaller
part
of
a
state.
K
I
mean
north
carolina
where
not
baseball,
but
you
have
the
california's
and
the
floridas,
whereas
predominant
baseball
is
pretty
cool
to
be
able
to
represent
our
state
on
the
national
team
and
especially
getting
to
go
over
to
taiwan
and
experiencing
that
lifestyle
for
two
weeks
was
pretty
cool
and
then
bringing
back
a
gold
medal
to
represent
the
country
was
pretty
sweet
as
well.
So.
C
A
A
L
Well,
this
is
a
woman
that
needs
no
introduction.
I
was
thinking
about.
I
was
thinking
about
you,
susan,
before
the
meeting
started,
and
I
I
think
I
can
definitively
say
that.
There's,
probably
not
one
other
person
in
this
county
that
has
touched
as
much
of
its
ground
and
and
and
and
and
planted
so
much
life
than
you
and
as
you've
touched
so
much
of
our
our
beautiful
county.
You've
also
touched
so
many
people
and
and
made
our
community
so
much
cleaner
and
greener.
I
mean
the
number.
L
I
don't
even
want
to
think
about
how
much
trash
you've
picked
up
or
how
how
many
flower
baskets
you
put
together
and
and
all
the
trees,
so
the
trees
are
everywhere
and
in
in
the
playgrounds
she
was
able
to
get
playgrounds,
ten
playgrounds
and-
and
she
had
has
a
way
of
really
engaging
other
folks.
In
this
spirit,
she's
can
chairman
gantt-
and
I
were
talking
about
your
your
ability
to
kind
of
woo
the
the
corporate
sector
into
it
and
help
folk.
L
All
of
us
understand
that
this
is
our
community
and
they
wanted
to
be
a
part.
So
all
the
volunteers-
and
we
just
we're
just
so
grateful
for
everything
everything
you've
done.
So
we
have
a
little
a
little
proclamation
that
we
want
to
share
with
you
today
and
something
else
too.
So
so
it's
my
great
honor
on
this
day
october,
15
2013,
to
declare
it
susan
roderick
day
on
behalf
of
all
buncombe
county
citizens.
L
L
M
L
O
N
Got
to
work
with
everybody
and
the
county
commissioners
have
just
been
great.
Not
just
this
board
is
great.
Commissioner
belcher
was
out
there
with
me
at
pisgah
elementary
on
one
of
my
bucket
list
projects.
We
built
a
fitness
trail
at
pitts
elementary.
He
was
out
there
every
day
working,
so
I
was
really
impressed
with
that,
but
so
many
of
you
have
helped
and
I
want
to
get
to
know
the
newer
ones
too.
N
Just
I've
been
able
to
work
with
every
almost
every
department
you
have,
but
especially
parks
and
rec,
and
we
we
just
planted
a
lot
of
trees
at
lake
julian,
with
david's
wife
charisse
with
her
rotary
club,
and
that
was
so
much
fun
down
there,
but
that
staff
at
lake
julian
will
just
do
anything
they
can
to
help
me.
So
it's
a
back
and
forth
thing.
You
know,
but
there's
so
much
more
to
do
so.
N
A
C
A
You
and
I'm
so
proud
to
know
you
and
one
of
my
favorite
pictures
of
susan
roderick
is
with
holly
doanes
when
they
were
doing
the
ywca.
A
They
had
a
planting
of
a
tree
out
there
and
they
had
a
blizzard
that
went
through.
So
you've
got
these
snowflakes
that
are
probably
about
the
size
of
half
dollars
and
here's
susan
and
holly
and
leah
carpenter,
and
a
couple
other
leaders
out
there
putting
that
tree
in
the
ground
in
the
middle
of
the
snow.
So.
A
N
A
Okay,
next
is
mr
catterjohn
here.
Thank
you.
That's
fine,
mr
cat
or
john
here
with
crime,
stoppers
committee.
A
All
right,
if
not
we'll
just
have,
let's
see
mr
belcher,
no,
mr,
mr
newman,
has
the
commissioner
newman
has
the
proclamation.
So
if
you'll
go
ahead
and
just
read
that
someone
here
yeah.
P
L
A
Okay,
good
good,
thank
y'all,
perfect
y'all
come
on
up
and
let's,
let's,
let's
we're
glad
you're
here
to
accept
this
proclamation.
B
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
board
of
commissioners
for
the
county
of
buncombe
as
follows
that
this
board,
on
behalf
of
all
buncombe
county
citizens,
does
hereby
proclaim
november
2013
as
crime
stoppers
month.
In
buncombe
county
that
this
board
does
hereby
extend
our
sincere
things
to
everyone
who
has
made
the
asheville
bunker
crime
stopper
a
successful
and
effective
program,
and
that
this
proclamation
be
effective.
Opponent's
adoption
adopted
this
15th
day
of
october
2013,
signed
by
david
gantt
chairman
of
the
buncombe
county
commission.
R
We
really
appreciate
this
crime.
Stoppers
is
celebrating
its
30th
anniversary
this
year
as
a
formal
organization,
and
it
actually
existed
as
an
informal
organization
with
buncombe
county
sheriff
tom
morrison
five
years
before
that.
But
the
proclamation
says
about
everything.
We
really
appreciate
the
support
of
the
county,
this
part
of
the
city
and
we
keep
thinking
we're
going
to
stop
crime,
but
there's
just
a
little
more
to
do
out
there
each
year.
So
with
your
help,
I'm
sure
we'll
all
pull
together
and
do
that.
Thank
you.
A
M
You,
chairman
and
commissioners,
I
think
that
judy
has
a
few
slides
to
bring
up,
so
you
can
actually
see
the
garden
when
we
moved
toward
an
integrated
health
and
human
service
system.
We
really
focused
on
how
do
we
improve
health
outcome
for
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
populations,
and
what
research
tells
us
is
the
individual
children
who
enter
the
child.
Welfare
system
are
almost
two
times
as
likely
to
have
bad
or
unhealthy
outcomes
as
general
child
population.
M
So
we
wanted
to
join
together
and
build
a
facility
that
offered
parents
the
opportunity
to
learn
how
they
can
engage
in
healthy
activities
with
their
children
and
also
the
ability
for
social
interaction
to
teach
hands-on
social
interaction.
So
this
is
a
design
of
a
playground
that
is
specific
to
interaction
between
a
parent
and
a
child.
It's
built
to
be
all
hands-on
activities
built-in
activities.
I
want
to
credit
pat
creighton,
who
retired
from
our
child
care
service
department
who
did
the
design
features
along
with
friend
thigpen.
M
I
also
want
to
say
that
when
a
county
undertakes
a
project
like
this,
it's
one
of
those
things.
That
is
a
very
good
idea,
but
it
takes
work
and
commitment
from
all
departments.
I'd
like
to
thank
greg,
israel
and
facility
services
and
that
stone
and
permits
and
inspections
that
coming
together
to
look
at
a
unique
model
and
say
how
can
we
make
that
happen
on
property?
M
What
are
you
doing
and
can
I
be
part
of
that
individuals
who
built
custom
bird
houses
that
hang
in
there
who
in
who
donated
the
tile
work
or
parts
of
the
plants
all
are
to
be
thanked?
For
this?
This
really
is
a
community
garden,
and
it's
one
of
the
aspects
of
my
career
over
30
years,
I'm
most
proud
about,
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
board
of
commissioners,
because
I
think
what
you
allow
department
heads
to
do
is
push
out
and
view
things
from
an
integrated
or
non-traditional
perspective,
and
this
is
an
example.
M
You'll
see,
there's
also
outdoor
seating,
a
swing,
an
opportunity,
a
very
safe
and
comfortable
place
for
parents
who
don't
aren't
with
their
biological
children
on
a
regular
basis
to
have
positive
interchange.
That's
you
know,
I'm
not
proud
to
say
that
in
much
of
my
career
as
a
social
worker,
many
of
our
visits
happen
in
mcdonald's,
playland
very
unhealthy
places,
both
in
terms
of
the
physical
space
and
the
crowds,
as
well
as
the
food
choices.
M
M
It
is
I
it's
one
of
my
favorite
parts
of
the
day
is
to
walk
by
and
hear
that
positive
energy
and
activity
in
that
space,
and
we
were
one
of
two
counties
recognized
in
the
category
of
best
practice
for
health
and
human
services
and
one
of
the
awards
we're
most
proud
of,
and
mostly
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
dr
green
for
the
ability
to
do
this
great.
Thank
you.
Wonderful.
Q
Ms
stone,
I
want
to
say
one
of
the
first
questions
I
asked
when
I
found
my
a
place
to
park
as
a
new
commissioner
and
coming
in,
I
saw
that
little
park
over
there
and
I
I
I
think
I
asked
miss
greener.
Somehow.
I
want
to
know
what
that
was,
because
you
know
parents
interacting
with
their
children,
is
a
big
deal
to
me,
being
a
grandfather
and
through
some
of
the
history
with
my
children,
but
and
I
loved
it
and
I'm
a
supporter
of
anything
like
that.
Q
M
Of
the
hands
out
handouts
that
I
put
in
your
place
is
a
map
that
parks
and
rec
designed
for
health
and
human
services
that
shows
all
the
county
parks
by
school
district
and
their
amenities.
Social
workers
use
this
to
encourage
families
to
visit,
foster
families,
birth
families
adopted
families
in
parks.
We
also
hand
it
out
to
all
our
food
nutrition
clients,
as
well
as
others
who
come
to
our
cox
facilities.
So
the
partnership
with
parks
and
rec
has
been
very
positive
for
us.
A
S
S
S
S
Given
the
mix
of
housing
types
which
includes
manufactured
homes
and
the
adjacent
r-3
zoning
district,
the
requested
zoning
would
be
consistent
with
the
surrounding
area.
The
planning
board
held
a
public
hearing
on
this
application
september.
The
9th
the
applicant
stated
that
she
has
the
property
on
the
market
and
has
lost
several
potential
sell
sales,
because
the
r2
district
does
not
allow
manufactured
homes.
S
S
A
T
T
T
T
The
property
has
been
for
sale
since
last
summer
and
I
have
had
a
number
of
interested
parties.
The
first
question
they
have
asked
is
whether
they
could
put
a
manufactured
home
on
the
land
when
I
had
to
tell
them.
No,
they
couldn't
understand
the
reasoning,
because
there
are
already
manufactured
homes
on
the
adjoining
tracks,
as
well
as
in
several
places
along
the
road
leading
into
the
property.
T
This
is
an
area
of
homes,
valued
from
approximately
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
one
hundred.
Fifty
thousand
dollars
and
placing
a
recent
model
manufactured
home
would
not
lower
the
value
of
any
of
these
existing
homes.
Based
on
the
foregoing
information,
I
respectfully
request
that
you
grant
my
petition
to
rezone
21
antique
lane
from
r2
to
r3.
Thank
you
thank.
U
Thank
you.
My
name
is
george
weber.
I
live
at
60
daniel
road.
I
share
a
property
boundary
with
miss
beamon
we'd
like
to
see
that
stay
r2.
If
possible.
I
know
there's
r3
around
there.
U
Yeah,
we
think
it
would
be
a
downgrade
and
we
think
that
it
would
be
a
negative,
have
a
negative
impact
on
our
community.
Miss
beamon
would
still
have
the
density
with
r2.
U
You
know
the
same,
but
she
couldn't
put
a
trailer
on
there.
So.
V
Good
afternoon,
I'm
roger
stevenson-
and
I
own
33,
antique
lane
adjacent
to
the
subject
property
in
question.
I
would
request
that
you
leave
the
zoning
as
it
is.
My
concern
is
that
it
would
devalue
the
property.
The
property
values
have
already
gone
down
over
the
past.
I
don't
know,
probably
a
couple
of
years
due
to
the
economy
and
different
factors
that
the
county
looks
at
as
far
as
taxation
and
whatever
else
figures
into
the
equation.
V
V
I
would
not
have
a
problem
with
a
modular
home
going
in.
I
would
not
have
any
problem,
you
know
with
a
site
built
home,
but
I
would
request
that
you
keep
the
zoning
as
it
is
to
keep
mobile
homes
from
being
brought
in.
So.
A
A
W
S
Q
Comment
I'm
familiar
with
this
property
in
this
area
and
I
believe
it
would
be
good
for
mrs
baby.
I
think
she
is
very,
very
well
presented
tonight
very
well
spoke
and
I
felt
like
it
come
from
your
heart
and
there's
some
we
would
like.
Q
I
would
like
for
you
to
be
able
to
sell
your
property,
and
I
think-
and
you
know,
in
keeping
with
our
land
use
plan
and
trying
to
provide
more
areas
that
are
affordable
for
affordable
housing
and
not
have
people
think
that
a
mobile
home
park
is
going
to
end
up
there,
and
I
don't
you
know,
I
don't
think
that
would
be
the
case
here
at
all.
You
know
I'm
certainly
going
to
be
in
favor
of
this.
A
While
you're
up
there,
what
is
the
potential
if
there
was
a
mobile
home
park
there?
How
many
could
it's
a
small
lot.
S
They'd
have
to
have
road
building
and
the
property
gets
a
little
steep.
So.
W
So
realistically,
I'm
looking
at
the
topo
and
there
is
steep
or
it's
hilly
realistically,
I
know
max
would
be
six
realistically.
What
what
would
the
possibility
be
given
the
lay
of
this
property.
W
S
L
A
A
A
Y
Y
Y
They
have
branches
other
branches
in
the
u.s,
in
canada,
in
the
netherlands
and
also
in
dubai.
So
this
is
a
company
that
has
grown
and
grown.
What
what
is
good
about
the
company
is
that
they
they
make
key
cards.
They
make
plastic
cards
a
lot
of
times
when
you
go
to
a
marriott
or
a
hilton.
The
card
that
you
use
is
made
by
plastic,
cart
and,
what's
also
very
unique,
is
that
their
business
has
been
expanding.
As
you
get
into
the
gift
cards,
you
go,
buy
a
25
card
to
go
to
lowe's.
Y
Y
Y
If,
with
your
approval,
we're
asking
tonight
to
do
an
incentive
grant
for
84
000
that
will
be
payable
over
a
period
of
three
years,
let
me
just
kind
of
go
into
a
little
bit
more
about
what
40
42
jobs
does
with
a
with
an
average
salary
of
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
so
judy.
Could
you
bring
up
first
slide?
Y
Please,
I
think
when
you
look
at
the
direct
and
indirect
and
induced
effects
of
these
number
of
jobs
is
obviously
the
direct
is
the
the
salary
times
the
42
employees
gives
you
over
three
million
dollars
worth
of
salary,
so
this
is,
I
figure
this
over
three
years,
simply
because
our
incentive
is
payable
over
three
years
the
indirect
is
1.4
million.
Y
That
is
all
of
a
sudden,
the
company's
expanded
we
buy
more
copy
paper.
The
janitorial
service
has
to
add
an
additional
employee
because
their
business
is
expanding
and
then,
when
you
look
at
the
induced
labor
is
that
all
of
a
sudden
now
that
I've
got
a
job
I
may
go
to
ingles
and
instead
of
spending
100
on
groceries.
This
week
I
spend
120.
Y
so
ingles
also
gets
additional.
Income
pays
additional
taxes
and
also
hires
additional
employees,
so
next
slide
judy.
So
when
you
take
the
42
jobs
when
you,
when
you
look
at
the
induced
and
the
indirect
effects
of
that
it
ripples
through
the
economy
and
all
of
a
sudden
there's
65
jobs
created.
Y
The
amount
of
wages
is
over
three
million
dollars
that
come
into
the
county,
and
it's
it's
very
exciting.
The
fact
that
it's
a
it's
a
local
business-
that's
grown
up
here
and
continues
to
expand
and
jeff
imes
is
here
that
is
with
pli
I'd
like
to
ask
him
to
come
up.
Tell
a
little
bit
more
about
his
company
and
then
we'll
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
Z
Thank
you,
mr
creighton,
good
afternoon.
Everyone,
my
name
is
jeff
iams,
and
some
of
you
may
know
me
from
my
years
at
wp
hickman
company,
as
your
co,
and
I'm
pleased
to
now
say
that
I
work
at
pli
first
on
behalf
of
mark
goldberg
and
peter
krauss.
They
both
apologize
for
not
being
here
personally
this
afternoon,
they're
both
tied
up
in
board
of
directors
meetings
all
this
week
on
behalf
of
pli
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
support.
You've
shown
pli
over
the
years.
Z
Your
support
grants
and
general
assistance.
The
commission
and
the
edc
and
the
chamber
of
commerce
have
helped
with
our
growth
in
so
many
ways.
As
an
update.
I'm
pleased
to
report
that
pli's
growth
continues
at
a
very
rapid
pace.
The
expansion
of
our
existing
facility
in
the
sweden
creek
industrial
park
is
nearly
complete
and
we
will
add
and
will
add
an
additional
24
000
much-needed
square
feet
for
added
production
and
storage
space.
Z
This
brings
this
building
to
nearly
ninety
thousand
square
feet.
Our
purchase
and
upfitting
of
the
old
rudy's
furniture
building,
also
in
the
sweden
creek
industrial
park,
is
likewise
nearly
complete
and
we
are
now
utilizing
nearly
nearly
all
the
44
000
square
square
feet
of
that
building,
bringing
our
total
production
space
to
more
than
135
000
square
feet.
Z
Pli
currently
employs
more
than
250
people
and
contributes
more
than
10
million
dollars
to
the
local
economy
in
payroll.
Our
ability
to
find
hire
and
retain
a
reliable
and
effective
workforce
here
in
nashville
will
continue
to
be
critical
to
our
ongoing
growth
and
success,
and
I
thank
you
again
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
all.
Q
A
A
A
D
D
And
I
would
like
to
know
the
number
of
people
that's
going
to
be
getting
this,
these
slides
that
are
presented
and
the
outcome
in
the
community?
What's
the
impact
you
can
make
it
look
as
glossy
and
as
pretty
as
you
can
be
as
pretty
as
those
little
shiny
cards
they
make,
but
the
substance
of
this
is
people's
lives
and
people's
jobs.
D
I'm
not
interested
in
what
the
top
employers
of
the
company
makes
I'm
interested
in
the
grunts,
the
people
that
actually
does
the
work
and
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
salary
are
range,
whether
or
not
that
they'll
meet
that
what
it.
What
is
buncombe
county
in
regards
to
what
they'd
have
to
make
the
at
a
level
that
they
wouldn't
have
to
have
social
service
help?
That's
what
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
here.
All
right.
D
A
C
AA
Y
At
this
point
you
know
the
the
average
wage
on
these
jobs
are
12.50,
50
cents
an
hour
and
and
they
do
requ
and
they
are
required
to
provide
health
insurance,
which
they
do
so
they
do
meet.
You
know
our
standards,
yeah.
Y
Sir,
like
say
this
is
a
company
that
was
starting
here
has
grown
up
here.
I
don't
think
it
was
mentioned,
but
I
understand
that
they
have
a
capability
of
making
a
million
cards
a
day.
So
and
that's
you
know,
that's
and
you
got
to
move
those
out.
I
mean
those.
Those
are
jobs
that
somebody's
got
to
pick
them
up,
somebody's
got
to
distribute
them,
somebody's
got
to
you,
know,
get
them
to
the
front
door
or
wherever
they're
being
used.
J
Right,
4,
four
millions
yeah
we're
drawing
tax
money
off
of
it
before
the
42
employees.
Are
there
so
84
000
with
four
million
dollar
investment,
we're
making
money
overall
plus,
but
it's
putting
money
into
this
county.
So
I'm
for
it.
A
Yeah,
john,
could
you
generally,
I
think,
you've
answered
this,
but
any
incentive
we
give
before
we
give
a
nickel.
There
are
certain
guidelines
that
have
to
be
met
and
and
verified.
Isn't
that
true.
Y
Yes,
sir,
like
say
the
tax
department
goes
out,
verifies
the
investment,
and
then
we
require
you
know
the
paperwork
to
come
in,
to
prove
that
the
employees
have
been
hired
in
their
wages.
You
know
what
those
wages
are
and.
Y
X
A
AB
AB
AB
Some
of
the
improvements
we
actually
did
were
roofs
electrical
plumbing
septic.
We
bring
everything
up
to
code,
so
it's
it's
an
awesome
opportunity
for
families.
This
will
actually
or
this
next
year
coming
up
this
next
cycle.
This
scattered
site
is
not
going
to
be
available,
so
we're
going
to
be
looking
for
other
opportunities
through
the
state
to
apply
for
so
we
we
haven't
heard
about
that
what
those
opportunities
will
be,
but
the
purpose
of
this
public
hearing
is
to
close
out
what
this
grant
and
what
we've
already
done.
A
V
A
If
not
I'll
declose
the
I'll
declare
the
public
hearing
closed
at
534.
A
Is
there
a
motion
to
adopt
the
close-out
grant
proposal
motion
by
vice
chair
jones?
Is
there
a
second
second
second
by
commissioner
king?
Is
there
any
further
discussion,
if
not
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
right
all
opposed?
No,
then
we
will
adopt
the
close
out
and
thank
you
for
your
good
work
and
keeping
up
with
those
numbers
and
very
good
projects
don
next
we
have
mandy
stone
to
talk
to
us
about
the
county,
manager's
report.
Well,.
AC
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
start,
the
shutdown
has
actually
had
a
really
big
impact
on
us
and
in
the
community,
so
we've
been
measuring
the
impact
on
county
government,
but
equally
important,
if
not
more
important,
is
the
impact
that's
having
on
our
citizens
and
it's
and
potentially
could
have
on
our
businesses,
not
just
from
a
direct
funding
standpoint
but
from
the
leveraged
funds
that
we
bring
into
the
community.
AC
If
you
look
outside
of
the
human
service
departments,
we
have
about
three
and
a
half
million
dollars
at
risk,
which,
when
you
hear
mandy's
report,
will
not
seem
like
a
big
number,
and
we
do
expect
that
we'll
lose
about
750
000
of
that
just
watching
nationally
we
are
seeing
some
companies
who
have
real
reservations
about
continuing
to
spend,
especially
those
around
federal
facilities.
AC
There
are
stores
chain
stores
for
the
most
part
where
over
half
their
customers
are
on
some
type
of
government
assistance,
and
we
do
have
some
of
those
chain
stores
in
our
community
and
we
do
as
we
go
forward.
We
will
watch
closely.
AC
AC
It
will
probably
be
march
before
we
know
the
real
impact
of
that,
but
that
that
impacts,
counties,
municipalities,
fire
districts,
city
schools.
So,
while
we
don't
know,
we
will
watch
it
very
closely,
but
by
far
the
greatest
impact
is
in
our
human
service
programs
and
ms
stone
and
her
staff
have
been
watching
that
hour
to
hour
and
she's
willing.
She
is
now
ready
to
share
the
latest
information
we
have
on
the
impact
of
the
shutdown
on
the
human
service
programs
and
it's
very
sobering.
M
Thank
you,
dr
green
and
chairman
and
commissioner
judy.
Could
you
bring
up
slides,
please
I
did
send
to
commissioners
late
this
afternoon.
A
line-by-line
analysis
and
we'll
continue
to
update
that
we're
currently
participating
in
conference
calls
twice
a
day
with
the
federal
and
state
government.
That's
how
fluid
this
situation
is.
M
I
think
when
you
look
at
it
from
a
general
public
perspective,
rightly
so,
the
focus
is
on
resolution
when
you
look
at
it
as
a
county
government
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
which
is
a
county
administered
health
and
human
service
system,
there
are
lots
of
layers
to
how
fluid
this
situation
is.
We're
equally
focused
on
will
once
those
dollars
are
free
up.
Will
they
be
retroactive
to
october
1st?
M
Will
all
of
the
dollars
be
reauthorized?
There's
significant
funds
involved
in
here
and
I'll
go
through
that
in
detail
that
haven't
been
formally
reauthorized
in
the
federal
budget
in
several
years
have
been
in
continuation
budget
and
will
we
be
a
be
allowed
to
use
carryover
funds
and
will
the
state
authorize
the
use
of
carryover
in
emergency
state
funding?
So
all
of
those
things
make
it
very
fluid,
and
it's
changing
in
the
formal
reports
to
us
are
occurring
at
this
point
twice
a
day.
M
I
want
to
spend
just
a
minute
on
this,
because
these
are
all
the
services
that
are
impacted
and,
if
that's
difficult
to
read,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
those
one
of
the
ones
I'm
going
to
focus
the
most
on
tonight
is
child
care.
Subsidy,
emergency
assistance
work
first
in
food
assistance,
one
that's
got
it
gotten
very
little.
Public
attention
is
around
food
assistance
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
few
minutes.
M
M
What
is
impacted
in
health
services
is
wick,
which
you
saw
a
lot
of
media
attention
to
when
north
carolina
suspended
wix
services
was
the
first
state
in
the
nation
to
do
that
and
then
receive
federal
dollars,
emergency
dollars
to
reinstate
that,
and
also
in
health.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
that
in
a
little
more
detail
as
women
in
children's
health
services
and
what
funds
those
impact.
M
It's
very
significant
if
you're
a
county
in
the
state
of
north
carolina,
which
is
county
administered,
is
we're
going
to
focus
mostly
on
the
dss
budget,
because,
to
be
quite
frank,
that's
where
your
dollars
are
and
where
your
dollars
will
be
impacted
is
99
of
this
percent
of
the
services
we
delivered
are
mandated
by
federal
and
state
law.
That's
significant
to
you
because
the
the
current
situation
on
a
federal
level
and
how
that's
playing
out
in
the
state
does
not
relieve
you
of
the
responsibility
to
deliver
the
services.
M
The
other
point
I
would
make
is
that
70
of
the
dss
budget
is
federal
money.
That's
how
significant
this
is
to
try
to
frame
that
for
you
going
forward
if
we
assumed
responsibility
for
all
the
dollars
at
risk.
In
the
current
situation,
that's
a
hundred
and
ninety
five
thousand
dollars
a
day,
5.9
million
dollars
a
month.
M
This
is
important.
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
it
on
the
next
slide
is
because,
while
you
look
at
the
total
dss
budget,
you
have
to
look
at
the
dot
the
non-county
dollars
that
are
leveraged.
If
about
29
million
dollars
in
the
dss
budget
that
leverages
an
additional
396
million
dollars,
some
of
which
play
out
in
direct
benefits
in
the
community
and
I'm
going
to
talk
about
those
from
an
economic
development
perspective.
M
The
two
I
want
to
focus
on
here
every
year.
The
congressional
budget
office
applies
a
multiplier
to
public
assistance
benefits
and
how
they
play
out
in
your
community,
because
medicaid
or
food
assistance
goes
into
your
local
grocery
store
your
doctor's
offices
or
your
hospitals.
It
pays
salaries,
those
individuals
buy
houses,
they
buy
groceries,
they
pay
property
taxes,
so
it
has
a
significant
impact
on
your
budget.
The
two
programs
most
that
are
impacted
right
now
are
child
care,
subsidy
and
food
assistance
that
has
a
123
million
dollar
direct
impact
on
your
local
economy.
M
That
is
not
the
portion
of
the
service
you
pay,
for
that
is
the
that
is
the
60
million
dollars
that
goes
to
grocery
stores
in
food
assistance
this
year
and
the
child
care
subsidy
that
goes
directly
to
providers,
and
I'm
happy
to
send
this
to
you.
I
apologize.
It
was
late.
We
literally
got
off
a
conference
call
right,
as
I
came
downstairs,
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
your
questions
as
we
go.
M
The
good
news
around
wic
is
that
it
is
a
concrete
service
and
that
we
had
several
community
partners
step
up,
ingles
eblin,
a
food
line
on
a
state
level
who
offered
gift
cards
and
assistance
to
those
families
in
purchasing
formula
and
approved
funding.
The
the
populations
we
most
worry
about
in
wic
are
pregnant
women
and
nursing
moms,
who
are
impacted
in
that
and
who
have
to
have
access
to
healthy
foods
again,
while
the
state
did
receive
emergency
federal
funds
that
carry
us
through
october,
there
are
no
funds
available.
If
this
moves
on
beyond
october.
M
Which
is
what
that
slide
says?
Sorry
for
that
timing.
I
want
to
talk
about
child
care
subsidy,
because
this
is
one
that
probably
weighs
most
on
my
mind.
If
you
look
at
child
care
subsidy,
we
administer
about
8.9
million
dollars
in
non-smart
start
subsidy
a
year.
The
county
does
the
number
of
children
served
are
1600,
so
the
the
the
real
impact
of
this
is
1600
children
who
would
not
have
access
to
child
care
services
if
these
services
were
suspended.
M
Just
so,
you
understand
the
nature
of
the
need.
There's
400
children
on
the
wait
list,
and
it
takes
an
average
of
15
months
to
move
through
that
wait
list.
That's
because
of
significant
reductions
that
have
already
happened
in
child
care
subsidy
as
a
result
of
the
federal
budget.
I
don't
have
to
remind
this
board
in
adopting
your
fy
14
budget,
you
picked
up
2.3
million
dollars
already
in
reductions
to
federal
costs
in
mandated
programs.
This
is
on
top
of
that.
So
I
think
it's
important
for
you
to
be
aware
of
that.
M
M
M
It's
just
not
the
ethical
or
right
thing
to
do
talk
about
these
details
because
they
may
be
hard
for
you
to
see,
and
I
apologize
for
that
if
you
wanted
who
gets
served
in
subsidy
or
what
what
are
really
the
only
people
who
now
get
served
are
considered
high-risk
populations.
Children
in
foster
care
children
with
developmental
delays,
children
with
open
child
protective
services
cases
are
the
primary
and
children
of
working.
M
M
What
I
would
say
to
you
is
if
we
only
do
that,
for
those
foster
children
in
subsidized
care
that'd
be
sixty
three
thousand
dollars
a
month
to
cover
that
forty
four
thousand,
almost
forty
five
thousand
for
the
other
children
connected
to
the
child
welfare
system
or
those
children
with
developmental
delays.
M
I'd
like
for
you
to
consider
from
the
frame
you
just
heard.
Mr
creighton
bring
you
an
economic
development
proposal
that
child
care
centers
will
close
without
the
subsidy
money.
What
you
see
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen
is
the
average
revenues
that
a
child
care
center
in
north
carolina
receives
through
the
subsidy
program,
so
a
small
center
about
seven
thousand
dollars
for
those
of
you
in
small
businesses.
M
Think
about
your
business
margins.
If
you
lost
seven
thousand
dollars
a
month
overnight
in
revenues
in
a
medium
and
in
our
large
center
66
000
a
month
in
revenues
that
would
be
lost
and,
as
one
of
my
staff
pointed
out
to
me,
if
child
care
centers
close,
it's
just
not
subsidized
children
who
are
impacted,
those
are
the
same
centers
private
pay,
parents,
children's
city
and
those
are
lost
jobs
for
the
child
care
providers
and
small
businesses.
That'll
close
in
our
community.
M
The
other,
which
it's
really
surprising,
how
little
media
attention
seems
to
have
been
built
around
the
detail
of,
what's
actually
impacted
in
the
federal
shutdown.
We
got
noticed
last
thursday
that
all
cash
assistance-
that's
what
you
would
know
in
the
old
days
as
welfare
is
suspended
in
north
carolina
they'll
receive
no
check
after
october.
First,
those
individuals.
M
M
Almost
70
percent
of
those
cases
are
child
only
cases,
which
means
that
the
adult
doesn't
receive
assistance.
It's
a
kin
or
grandparent
caring
for
a
child
who
receives
assistance.
The
average
amount
of
that
cash
assistance
is
200
a
month.
It's
not
a
large
amount,
but
if
you're
a
family
living
on
the
margin,
the
loss
of
that
cash
will
cause
additional
children
to
come
into
the
foster
care
system.
M
A
M
C
A
M
We've
continued
to
see
those
numbers
decrease
where
really
the
only
cash
assistance
that
we
continue
to
pay
out
is
in
those
child-only
cases.
For
the
most
part,
the
average
length
of
time
those
non-can
individuals
receive
cash
is
less
than
a
year.
There
is
requirement
for
work,
so
there
is
no
long-term
welfare
anymore
and
hasn't
been
for
some
time
and.
A
M
True
you're
actually
penalized
if
you
and
can't
receive
your
benefit
for
a
prorated
period
of
time,
if
you
become
pregnant
and
have
an
additional
child
by
receiving
cash
assistance,.
A
M
They're
very
low,
but
I
would
tell
you
for
those
individuals
they're
very
high-risk
situations,
in
the
loss
of
that
income
into
their
household
every
month.
They
are
just
now
receiving
notices
that
they
will
not
receive
cash
benefits,
beginning
in
november
that
there's
no
cash
available
and
that
their
october
benefits
will
be
prorated.
M
I
want
to
jump
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
to
cover.
The
other
piece
of
the
mandate
says
that
we,
as
of
last
week,
cannot
deliver
the
other
workforce
services.
So,
as
chairman
gantt
said,
when
we
stopped
investing
as
a
federal
and
state
government
in
cash
assistance,
we
shifted
dollars
to
job
training,
one-time
emergency
assistance,
helping
people
purchase
things
like
steel,
toed
boots
or
uniform
vehicle
repairs.
So
people
could
get
back
in
in
and
forth
to
work.
We
were
also
instructed
to
cease
all
work.
M
First,
employment
services
effective
last
thursday
and
that
we
were
instructed
counties
could
not
choose
to
pick
up
on
their
own.
So
we
couldn't
choose
to
supplement
those
from
a
workforce
perspective
for
us
we
contract,
as
you
all
know,
most
services
out
that
were
not
mandated
to
directly
deliver
so
that
made
us
forced
us
to
notify
goodwill
of
an
intent
to
suspend
their
contract
around
employment
services.
M
For
us
that
was
one
of
the
probably
most
troubling
pieces
of
state
guidance,
because
at
the
same
time,
you're
not
paying
cash
assistance.
We
should
be
helping
people
with
job
placement
and
that
that's
one
of
the
components
of
where
we
sit
right
now.
M
L
L
M
A
state
decision
states
deal
with
the
old
welfare
different
ways
in
north
carolina,
and
I
believe
that
this
is
just
my
opinion
that
this
money
is
very
unlikely
to
come
back.
Many
states
have
already
moved
toward
more
of
a
kinship
benefit
payment
versus
the
cash
payment.
I
believe
that's
an
option
north
carolina
may
look
at.
M
I
think
that
could
be
good
in
the
long
run,
but
I
think
interrupting
this
income
to
this
specific
population
even
for
a
month
presents
challenges
now
how
we
are
addressing
that
is
we're
putting
additional
dollars
in
resources
and
emergency
assistance,
where
we
can
help
people
with
one-time
crisis,
be
that
heating
or
rent
a
medical
issue
any
of
those
pieces.
That's
how
we're
trying
to
prepare
for
the
impact
to
those
individual
families
but
mandy.
How.
L
M
They're
tied
to
map
because
they're
all
matching
dollars
and
the
tide
of
them
is
matching
dollars
and
the
way
that
they
come
down
to
counties.
You
could
make
a
decision
to
enter
into
a
contract
with
goodwill
to
purchase
assistance
for
the
general
public
around
employment.
You
could
even
instruct
me
to
identify
certain
poverty
or
income
guidelines
to
guide
that,
but
you
couldn't
have
a
work
first
contract
because
work
first
in
the
county
program
and
as
we
I
have
been
reminded
more
times
in
the
last
two
days
we
are
arm
of
the
state
government.
M
I
want
to
talk
about
this
one,
because
this
one's
really
I'm
surprised
it
has
got
no
attention.
I
know
you
all
see
the
various
statistics
that
say
somewhere
between
one
and
four
and
one
in
six.
Americans
receive
food
stamps.
There
are
no
food
stamp
benefits
authorized
after
november;
first,
either
the
benefit
or
the
administration
of
that
benefit.
M
M
The
administrative
side
of
that
is
241
almost
242
000
a
month
and
the
benefit
side
is
5
million
dollars
a
month,
so
5
million
dollars
that
wouldn't
go
in
that
people
would
not
be
purchasing
food
using
their
benefit
cards
among
our
providers
and
200
and
almost
42
000.
You
would
not
receive
an
administrative
dollar,
so
I
would
not
receive
which
means
you
would
not
receive
and
why
that's
relevant
to
you
is
we're
still
required
to
take
applications.
M
We
are
still
required
to
to
be
there.
Take
applications
in
a
timely
manner,
enter
them
into
the
system,
and
then
they
will
sit
in
what's
called
a
queue
until
dollars
are
available.
So
it's
not
as
though
we
have
the
ability
to
to
reduce
our
staff
resources
dedicated
in
these
program
areas.
That's
equally
true
in
work.
First,
if
you
come
in
to
apply
for
cash
assistance,
we're
required
to
take
your
application
and
tell
you
that
we
can't
process
it
and
it
will
sit
in
aq
until
benefits
are
available.
M
J
J
This
is
getting
big,
but
we
have
to
do
one
other
thing
too.
I
looked
at
the
chart
beforehand
and
the
sub
food
subsidies
and
all
that's
climbing
up
out
of
sight.
We
want
to
help
everybody
well,
and
I
definitely
want
to
help
children
you're
talking
about
grandparents,
taking
care
of
children
that
that
we're
giving
them
money
x
amount
dollars
per
month.
Cash
money,
that's
good,
but
we
need
to
be
finding
the
parents
to
collect
that
money.
J
M
Right,
grandpa
and
grandma
would
not
be
the
focus
of
a
child's
support
referral.
It
would
be
the
birth
parents,
so
the
grandparents
aren't
receiving
the
benefit.
J
For
themselves,
you're
showing
me
something
here
that
I
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
as
a
small
county
with
x
amount
of
dollars
we're
going
to
overcome
easily
at
all.
I
can.
I
can
see
the
500
some
thousand,
that
there's
areas
that
we've
got,
that
we
promised
other
things
that
we
can
take
of
the
way,
but
to
carry
us
further
into
debt,
for
this
is
I'd
rather
take
it
away
and
try
to
get
through
it
and
see
what
we
get
back.
M
I
would
agree
with
you
that
I
don't
think
counties
assuming
any
of
these
in
the
long
term
is
feasible.
I
think
you'd
have
to
think
about,
and
child
care
is
one
of
those
I'll
make.
This
argument
on
is
not
only
the
financial
cost
but
the
emotional
cost
to
children
if
you
disrupt
their
care
by
suspending
care
until
the
federal
government
makes
a
decision,
I'm
not
asking
for
guidance.
J
Think
you've
got
the
guidance
of
seven
people
here
on
the
board
are
going
to
have,
because
this
is
a
big
discussion
and
I
apologize,
but
we
are
from
different
parties,
but
we're
making
more
sense
in
what's
happening
in
washington
today
between
all
of
them,
and
you
know
that's
what
whatever's
happening.
We
need
to
try
to
figure
it
out,
but
seven
of
us,
I
don't
know
how
I
can
figure
it
out
how
I
will
help,
but
that's
like
I
said
I
cannot
say
to
the
taxpayer.
J
W
Thank
you
mandy
ms
stone.
Can
you
tell
us
the
impact
on
the
foster
care
on
this?
I
mean
is
that
part
of
this
is.
Is
that
separate.
M
M
That's
555
thousand
dollars,
that's
thirty
percent
of
our
total
adult
protective
service
budget,
and
I
would
tell
you
I
worry
about
ssb
social
service
block
grant
funding
in
the
long
run,
it's
one
of
those
pots
of
money
that
has
not
been
reauthorized
formally
in
years.
I
think
this
is
an
area
where
we
may
face
a
ongoing
mandate
with
an
additional
loss
in
federal
resources
in
the
long
term
on
the
foster
care
side,
and
I
might
not
I'm
going
to
get
to
foster
care.
I
might
not
go
exactly
in
your
order,
but
well.
M
This
is
beginning
to
talk
about
it.
When
I
talked
about
work
first,
which
really
in
the
new
world
is
tanf
temporary
assistance
for
needy
families,
there's
an
additional
2.4
million
dollars
annually
that
we
receive
that
funds,
child
welfare
services
that
have
been
suspended,
meaning
we
will
not
receive
those
reimbursements
for
september
and
at
this
point
for
october,
tanf
is
another
federal
program
that
has
not
formally
been
reauthorized
in
years.
They've
done
continuation
budgets,
but
that's
your
impact
in
the
child
welfare
side.
That
you're
asking
about
is
about
2.4
million
dollars
annually.
M
Again,
that's
an
area.
We
have
a
mandate
and,
as
we
talked
about
in
here
before
that
mandate
is
so
prescribed
in
the
law.
It
tells
you
caseload
sizes,
social
work
requirements
in
terms
of
their
education
and
experience
level
and
supervisory
ratios,
so
very
little
discretion
in
what
we
do
with
that,
whether
the
money
comes
forward
or
not.
M
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A
Commissioner
belcher
second,
commissioner
fryer:
is
there
any
discussion?
All
those
in
favor
say,
I'm
all
right,
I'll
oppose
no
7-0
vote
we're
in
open
session.
We
we
do
not
intend
to
take
any
action
on
any
matters
discussed
at
our
during
our
closed
session
and
therefore
a
motion
to
adjourn
would
be
an
order.
Is
there
a
motion
motion,
commissioner?
Frost?
Is
there
a
second
second?
Second,
commissioner
friar
any
discussion
of
the
motion
to
adjourn
all
those
in
favor
say:
aye
aye.
We
are
adjourned,
7-0
vote.