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Regular meeting of the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners on January 17, 2023. To review the full agenda visit buncombecounty.org/commissioners.
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A
A
A
I
want
to
announce
that
any
members
of
the
public
attending
the
meeting
who
are
using
the
county
parking
garage
next
door
or
who
use
public
transit
to
attend
the
meeting,
can
get
validation
for
your
parking
or
Transit
passes
at
the
meeting.
Please
just
see
one
of
the
deputies
on
your
way
out
and
they
can
validate
that,
for
you
want
to
read
the
ethics
reminder
to
the
board.
A
A
A
A
D
A
Okay,
we
now
come
to
the
public
comment
section
of
our
meeting.
We've
got
several
folks
who
have
signed
up
to
speak
during
public
comment,
we'll
call
on
this
four
people
and
the
order
they
signed
up
and
then,
if
any
other
members
of
the
public
wish
to
speak
during
public
comment,
there'll
be
an
opportunity
at
that
time.
Once
we
get
to
the
focus
on
the
sign
up
sheet,
everybody
who
addresses
the
board
please
just
come
up
to
the
podium.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
address
the
board.
A
E
I
attended
the
Buncombe
County
2043
demonstration
at
Skyline
library
and
I'm,
very
disturbed
at
the
proposed
plans
for
so
much
inappropriate
development
throughout
the
county,
but
especially
in
pinner's
Cove.
The
plan
is
pro-hud
density
development,
with
no
burden
on
the
developers
to
pay
up
front
for
the
infrastructure
updates
that
are
necessitated
by
their
ambitions.
E
The
inadequate
roads,
Water
and
Sewer,
lack
of
sidewalks,
public
transportation
and
Greenways
make
life
very
difficult
with
little
quality,
especially
in
South
Asheville.
We
learned
beginning
Christmas
Eve,
that
10
million
dollars
a
year
in
water
system
upgrades
and
maintenance
is
far
from
adequate.
E
The
developers
must
be
required
to
pay
a
fee
based
on
number
of
units
to
create
more
capital
for
all
infrastructure.
One
goal
stated
in
the
2043
plan
is
to
decrease
allowable
impervious
surfaces
on
new
development.
That
is
not
what
happens
with
high
density
proposals.
Did
we
not
learn
anything
from
tropical
storm
Fred
in
2021
and
the
increasing
High
Water
Events
due
to
climate
change?
High
density
in
these
steep
mountainous
coves
is
insanity.
E
E
There
is
no
access
to
sidewalks
or
Greenways,
no
public
transportation
and
the
KO
penner's
eat
proposal
is
not
small
block
sizes.
That
conservation,
easement
concept
simply
doesn't
work
on
penner's
Cove
and
you
will
sacrifice
the
stated
goal
of
maintaining
agricultural
rural
landscapes
for
unsustainable
high
density
development.
4
to
18
dwelling
units
per
acre,
as
the
plan
proposes,
is
simply
outrageous.
The
adjacent
lands
to
the
east,
including
Merrell's
Cove,
Bob,
Barnwell,
Webb,
Creek
Gravelly
Creek
Gravelly
Branch,
to
Concord
Road
on
the
southern
boundary,
looks
just
like
penner's
Cove,
but
its
designated
rural
community.
E
F
F
D
G
D
But
I
I
live
in
South
Asheville
I
have
a
lot,
that's
under
a
half
acre
and
if
I
wanted
to
expand
the
footprint
of
my
home
to
go
right
up
to
the
building
the
lot
line
I
would
be
denied,
they
would
say.
No,
you
have
setbacks,
you
can't
and
if
I
said
well,
wait.
Well,
then,
why
can't
I
build
my
house
up
three
and
four
floors,
because
it's
a
reasonable
trade-off?
You
won't,
let
me
build
out
you'd
say
no.
You
can't
do
that.
To
me,
this
is
what
is
being
asked
for
is
unfair.
D
Under
current
Zone
zoning
code,
the
developer
is
allowed
I
think
some
90
homes
on
that
lower
forget
the
conservation
agents.
Then
you
get
another
10,
maybe
if
he
has
to
build
up
there
because
they'd
require
the
current
zoning
would
require
larger
Lots.
This
to
me,
is
the
correct
answer.
The
law
should
be
applied
evenly
and
I.
Don't
see
why
person
should
be
given
a
large
amount
of
latitude
with
the
existing
law.
This
let
the
buyer!
D
Add
on
top
of
this,
the
traffic
I
mean
we
all
know
and
you've
heard
many
many
times
how
I
don't
think
anybody
disagrees
that
the
traffic
on
pinner's,
Cove
and
Mills
Gap
is
going
to
be
a
nightmare
and
here's
your
opportunity
to
do
the
right
thing
for
everybody.
The
developer
can
still
be
free
to
build
his
homes.
I
have
30
seconds
he's
free
to
build
his
homes.
D
I
would
welcome
the
neighbors,
but,
what's
being
proposed,
is
unfair.
I
think
it's
biased
quite
honestly
that
he
would
ask
this
and
I
think
it
would
be
very
improper
for
this
board
to
prove
it.
So
I
agree
with
my
two
prior
speakers
how
they
summarized
I
think
this
should
retain
the
designation
of
being
a
rural
Zone
and
the
law
should
be
applied
according
to
the
ways
I've
sort
of
outlined.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
A
H
H
Think
of
all
the
things
you
all
have
learned
about.
Yes,
you
were
politicians,
you
got
your
office
you're
in
office
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
learning
about
trash
trucks
and
Roads
and
development
and
fire
and
everything
else,
and
when
you
put
some
of
that
knowledge
together
and
review
Capital
Improvement
programs,
where
you're
trying
to
have
growth
in
a
reasonable,
logical
way,
what
you're
doing
is
allowing
for
a
logical
extension
of
services.
H
H
B
A
I
I
I
hope
nobody
gets
killed
even
with
the
current
traffic
on
what
is
a
twisty
narrow,
windy
road
we
need,
we
do
not
need
to
add
traffic
onto
penis
Cove
Road
without
putting
in
sidewalks
without
putting
in
major
wine
widening
of
penis
Cove
Road,
and
we
haven't
got
the
money,
we're
not
going
to
spend
the
money
to
put
that
sort
of
development
into
pinners,
Cove
Road
I'm
asking
you
please
reject
this
proposal.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you
Commissioners.
My
name
is
Doug
kalish
I'm,
a
resident
of
Poplar
Ridge,
which
is
a
neighborhood
off
of
The
pinner's
Cove
area.
I
also
would
like
to
ask
you
to
reject
this
application
for
the
the
land
conservation
permit.
I
do
believe
that
from
an
infrastructure
standpoint
the
roads
just
can't
handle
that
and
I
also
I
also
have
a
concern
about
Emergency
Services
I'm,
a
former
resident
of
Colorado
I
was
an
elected
official
as
well.
J
I
know
the
challenges
and
trade-offs
that
you
have
to
make
living
where
we
do
in
Poplar,
Ridge
I'm,
already
not
sure
how
fast
the
response
times
would
be
for
a
fire
truck,
or
you
know
a
large
vehicle
to
come
through
with
additional
traffic
that
could
come
from
this
development.
I
do
think
that
the
incident
response
times
would
not
be
satisfactory.
So
for
the
reasons
of
fire
safety
and
for
infrastructure
I
do
ask
that
you
reject
this
proposal.
Thank
you
great.
K
Good
evening
I'm,
Celeste
Selwyn,
my
husband
and
I,
have
been
residents
in
pinnersco
for
over
10
years.
Now
we
recognize,
since
we
moved
to
pinner's
Cove,
that
development
would
come.
It's
lovely,
there's
flat
land,
we're
close
to
stores
and
shopping
all
the
things
people
want,
except,
of
course,
Transportation
or
sewer.
K
We
also
are
aware
of
the
need
for
affordable
housing.
Our
daughter
is
currently
worrying
that
her
rental
in
West
Asheville
is
probably
going
away
in
the
spring.
She
works
in
the
local
service
industry
and
can't
afford
to
pay
more
than
she
is
in
a
small,
run-down
house
with
two
roommates.
So
we
get
local
housing
issues.
K
What
I
don't
get
is
why
anyone
who
questions
development
in
their
neighborhood
is
blasted
as
a
NIMBY,
not
in
my
backyard,
as
though
the
rights
of
developers
in
the
under
housed
are
more
important
than
those
of
the
people
who
live
there.
Of
course,
we
have
the
right
and
even
the
duty
to
question
development.
We
know
the
issues
and
our
concerns
are
valid.
We
undoubtedly
get
this
area
in
a
way.
K
An
out-of-state
developer
has
no
interest
in
understanding
you,
as
Commissioners
are
hopefully
looking
at
our
issues
as
ask
Bill
ashvillians
and
not
as
sponsors
of
development
for
development's
sake.
Penner's
Cove
only
received
water
after
the
CTS
super
fund
site
across
Mills
Gap
ruined
the
wells
in
a
large
plume
that
came
underground
almost
to
the
site
in
question.
K
The
people
in
The
Cove
have
paid
their
environmental
dues.
They
do
not
deserve
to
have
sewer
from
some
ill-advised
subdivision
poured
into
their
waterways
and
environment
as
soon
as
a
pump
freezes
or
a
pipe
breaks,
and
who
knew
those
things
could
happen
by
the
way
we
had
breaks
on
Westin
and
also
on
pinners.
In
the
recent
debacle.
Our
infrastructure
is
already
under
strain,
so
here's
the
bottom
line
infrastructure.
First,
we
know
development
is
coming,
do
it
responsibly?
K
Do
it
in
a
way
that
protects
the
environment
and
your
constituents
and
not
out-of-state
Developers
and
the
county
tax
base?
You
can
deny
these
ridiculous,
fake
conservation,
easements
and,
in
doing
so,
protect
Ash
billions
from
a
bad
precedent
that
threatens
everything
we
in
the
mountains
hold
dear.
Thank
you.
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
Lisa
Wagner
and
I
live
in
the
Oaks
of
pinners
Cove
Road
and
I'm,
following
my
very,
very
eloquent
Neighbors
in
describing
what
it's
like
to
live
off,
penner's
Cove
Road,
it
is
a
rural
area.
I
would
like
to
add.
Not
only
are
our
neighbors
present,
but
we
also
have
animals
that
we
consider
our
neighbors,
the
Farms,
the
Bears,
the
turkeys,
the
possums.
L
A
developer
wants
to
come
in
and
that's
fine,
but
is
asking
for
easements
two
easements
that
will
connect
a
sewer
line
and,
as
a
previous
neighbor
said,
imagine
for
a
minute
that
going
up
over
the
mountain,
what
happens?
What
happens
when
we
lose
power?
We
lose
power.
When
there
is
a
storm,
we
lost
water.
Last
year
the
roads
are
crumbling,
the
traffic
is
so
bad.
I
had
an
anxiety
attack
on
Friday
and
mental
health
is
not
a
joke.
L
Just
thinking
about
going
to
get
gas
because
traffic,
no
matter
what
time
of
day
is
horrendous
and
I
shouldn't
have
to
live
like
that.
But
I
do
because
I
love
the
rural
area
that
we
live
in
and
it
is
rural.
It
is
not
a
complete
Community,
it
is
rural.
Please,
please
deny
these
easements
on
behalf
of
people
that
are
not
only
residents
of
Asheville
but
are
stewards
of
the
land
we
all
are
and
please
consider
the
future
of
Asheville
when
you
do
make
your
decisions.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
M
And
I'm
going
to
tell
you
something
folks
that
limit
is
tied
to
your
infrastructure
and
if
your
infrastructure
is
not
built,
you
will
exceed
it
and
I
think
you
just
did
over
the
Christmas
holidays
with
the
water
lines
bursted
and
you
had
the
city
of
manager
of
Asheville
sent
right
here.
The
mayor
and
say
she
didn't
know
the
history
of
the
water
system
for
a
cow
coming
in
matter
of
fact,
the
cow
coming
in
out
of
the
ring
would
be
smarter.
M
So
folks,
you
better
pay
attention
to
what
they're
giving
you.
It
is
fact,
and
in
all
of
that
stuff
and
they're
saying
please,
please,
please
you
ain't
gonna,
do
nothing
till
somebody
begs
you
to
do
it
you're
only
gonna!
Do
it
if
you
see
it
tied
to
votes
and
that's
why
I
was
here
today
just
to
see
how
many
turned
out
and
yeah
the
numbers
growing.
M
So
each
of
you
go
home
and
get
two
or
three
more
to
come
back
next
time
and
convince
them
you're
not
going
to
lay
down
and
take
it
convince
the
image
you
will
vote
their
butt
out
if
they
don't
do
what
you
want
to
do
now,
that's
my
advice
to
you
and
I've.
Given
you
15
seconds
back
and
normally
I
could
do
it
right
to
the
second.
A
N
I'm
joined
by
Paulina,
Mendez
and
jyn
from
our
voice
this
evening.
This
is
a
county
of
bunkum
proclamation
for
human
trafficking,
Awareness
Month,
whereas
by
Presidential
Proclamation,
each
January
has
been
designated
national
human
trafficking
prevention
month
and
whereas
human
trafficking
is
the
exploitative
buying
and
selling
of
human
beings
for
labor
and
sex
acts.
N
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
board
Board
of
Commissioners
for
the
county
of
Buncombe
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
as
follows
that
the
month
of
January
2023
be
proclaimed
human
trafficking,
Awareness
Month
in
Buncombe
County.
That
this
board
does
hereby
urge
all
citizens
to
make
the
commitment
to
stop
human
trafficking
by
speaking
out
against
violence
and
learning
more
about
the
resources
available
to
survivors
and
their
families
signed
by
brownie
Newman.
Chairman
of
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners.
O
Thank
you,
commissioners.
Community
members,
my
name
is
Jen.
I
am
the
program
director
at
our
voice.
We
work
with
survivors
of
sexual
violence
and
human
trafficking.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
support
in
raising
awareness
about
human
trafficking
awareness
month.
We
have
quite
a
few
events
going
on
this
month.
We
also
want
to
recognize
the
survivors
that
we
have
in
our
community
as
well.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
support.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
our
partnership.
O
A
G
Yes,
happy
to
be
here,
my
name
is
Paulina
Mendez
I'm,
the
Family
Justice
program
manager,
I
also
coordinate
the
domestic
violence.
Fatality
review
team
and
I
am
here
with
kelda
Harrison,
the
dvfrt's
domestic
violence,
Survivor
consultant
and
Rebecca
Smith,
the
social
work
division
director
and
the
chair
of
the
domestic
violence,
fatality
review
team.
G
G
G
What
they
found
was
most
mass
shootings
that
are
related
to
DB
and
that
DV
related
shootings
had
higher
case
fatality
rates
than
those
unrelated
to
DB.
The
study
found
that
59.1
percent
of
the
mouse
shootings
were
DV
related
in
68.2
percent
of
the
mass
shootings.
The
perpetrator
either
killed
at
least
one
partner
or
family
member,
or
had
a
history
of
DV.
G
G
The
law
enforcement
officer
will
ask
evidence-based
questions
known
as
The
lethality
screening
then
privately
inform
the
Survivor
of
any
concerns
and
work
to
connect
them
to
our
local
domestic
violence
organization.
Help
mate,
especially
if
the
situation
has
been
identified
as
high
Danger
at
the
Family
Justice
Center
and
through
helpmate.
We
also
conduct
more
in-depth
danger
assessments
which
also
screen
for
the
risk
of
homicide
through
intake
through
intakes
at
the
Family
Justice
Center
helpmate
hotline
calls
and
help
mate
shelter
intakes.
G
As
you
can
see,
the
number
of
lab
reports
and
danger
assessments
have
been
increasing
since
FY
19.
you'll
see
that
for
the
lap
protocol,
which
again
as
a
reminder,
happen
externally.
These
are
happening
on
the
scene
of
domestic
violence,
calls
there
was
a
jump
that
can
be
attributed
to
covid
and
that
slight
increase
that
continues
to
go
up
shows
a
natural
progression
of
calls
that
we're
receiving
the
danger
assessments.
G
This
increase
is
partially
related
to
us
improving
the
way,
we're
collecting
data
and
how
we're
reporting
on
the
data.
But
it's
also
goes
back
to
what
I
showed
you
on
the
previous
slide
and
the
increase
in
the
amount
of
danger
assessments
that
we
are
doing
through.
Fjc
intake,
helpmate
hotline
calls
and
help
mate,
shelter,
intake
and
multiple
of
these
risk
factors
aligned
with
the
case
that
we
reviewed.
P
Good
evening,
everyone
as
Paulina
said
I'm
Rebecca,
Smith
I'm,
the
director
of
social
work
for
Buncombe,
County,
Health
and
Human
Services
and
I
have
the
privilege
of
being
the
chair
of
the
domestic
violence
fatality
review
team
for
the
first
time
this
year.
So
it's
a
new
experience
for
me
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here.
P
When
there
are
allegations
of
children
witnessing
or
experiencing
domestic
violence,
child
protective
services
is
contacted
and
families
are
assessed
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
violence
has
risen
to
the
level
of
creating
imminent
risk
of
harm
to
the
children.
As
you
can
see
from
the
chart,
cost
of
CPS
alleging
neglect
or
abuse
through
domestic
violence
have
steadily
risen
over
the
last
few
years.
P
At
the
same
time,
calls
and
reports
have
gone
up.
Findings
related
to
child
maltreatment
have
gone
down
as
we
have
worked
to
better
support
the
non-offending
parents
in
these
cases
and
keep
children
safe
and
together
with
them
of
the
cases
where
children
have
been
maltreated
as
a
result
of
domestic
violence
and
are
at
imminent
risk
of
harm.
Some
of
the
children
are
at
such
a
great
risk
that
they
must
be
removed
from
their
homes
and
enter
the
custody
of
Social
Services.
P
The
next
slide
we
want
to
show
you
this
evening,
just
thought
it
was
going
to
magically
happen.
The
next
slide
we
want
to
show
you
this
evening
is
related
to
the
cost.
The
annual
cost
of
domestic
violence
in
Buncombe
County,
specifically
so
clearly,
domestic
violence
impacts
the
work
we
do
at
the
county
through
Services,
provided
at
the
Family
Justice
Center
through
our
Justice
service
programs
and
through
Child
Protective
Services.
But
what
is
the
big
picture?
P
Cost
of
intimate
partner
violence
for
Buncombe
County,
a
study
by
the
Jamie
Kimball
foundation
for
courage
found
that
in
fiscal
year
2017
and
2018,
the
total
cost
of
domestic
violence
for
for
Buncombe
County
was
estimated
to
be
approximately
14
million
dollars.
You
can
see
that
breakdown
on
this
slide.
It
is
important
to
note
that
this
is
just
a
snapshot
for
one
year
and
does
not
show
the
generational
costs
of
domestic
violence.
You'll
see
that
these
costs
not
only
affect
individuals
but
our
broader.
P
P
This
brings
us
to
talk
about
domestic
violence,
related
homicides
in
Buncombe
County.
As
you
may
know,
these
conversations
started
in
2013
because
Buncombe
County
tied
with
Wake
County,
to
have
the
second
highest
rate
of
domestic
violence-
homicides
in
North,
Carolina
Additionally.
You
may
also
hear
intimate
partner
violence
and
domestic
violence
used
interchangeably.
P
So
we
want
to
distinguish
the
two
because
the
domestic
violence,
fatality
review
team
focuses
on
intimate
partner,
violence,
related
homicides,
intimate
partner,
violence
is
abuse
or
aggression
that
occurs
in
a
romantic
relationship.
Intimate
partner
refers
to
both
current
and
former
spouses
and
dating
partners.
It
can
include
physical
violence,
sexual
violence,
stalking
and
psychological
aggression.
P
What
you
see
in
this
graph
is
the
number
of
domestic
violence
homicides
we've
had
since
2013
differentiated
by
whether
they
were
domestic
violence
or
intimate
partner
violence.
It
is
also
important
to
note
that
some
incidents
involve
one
homicide.
While
others
can
involve
multiple
deaths
in
one
incident,
for
example
in
2014.
P
P
We
spend
time
pulling
records
from
across
multiple
Community
Partners
and
we
have.
Our
team
is
made
up
of
community
partner.
Representatives
such
as
we
have
a
judge
on
our
team.
We
have
folks
from
via
from
our
educational
Partners.
We
have
individuals
with
lived
experience,
folks
from
Child
Protective
Services
and
from
our
family,
Justice
Center
Partners.
P
P
So
this
slide
just
provides
you
with
an
overview
timeline
of
the
work
that
we've
done
in
our
Buncombe
County
Domestic
Violence
fatality
review
team.
As
you
may
have
may
remember,
our
timeline
was
thrown
off
slightly
due
to
covid,
but
we
are
back
on
track
now
and
we
presented
findings
and
information
from
our
last
review
in
February
of
2022,
and
then
we
began
the
work
again
to
to
pull
and
gather
the
records
needed
to
complete
this
review.
P
While
we
are
working
to
prevent
homicides,
we
can
keep
in
mind
that
this
is
a
small
fraction
of
the
larger
work
that
we
do.
What
we
do
on
this
team
helps
inform
the
rest
of
the
work
happening
as
a
part
of
the
coordinated
Community
response
to
domestic
violence
and
sexual
assault
and
state
level
efforts.
P
We
found
multi-faceted
live
stress,
multi-generational,
historical
and
Community
trauma
it's
involved.
In
this
case,
a
legally
obtained
firearm
was
the
murder
weapon
used
by
by
the
perpetrator
during
the
attack.
Financial
insecurity
and
lack
of
access
to
Transportation
were
used
to
maintain
coercive
control.
P
P
The
statute
allows
limited
and
specified
participation
on
the
review
panel
and
currently
does
not
intentionally
prioritize
diversity
or
individuals
with
lived
experience,
so
these
were
our
team's
takeaways
and
what
stood
out
to
us
and
on
the
next
slides
that
Kilda
is
going
to
present
she's
going
to
go
over
the
recommendations
that
came
from
these
findings.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you
good
evening.
I'm
kelda,
Harrison
and
I
am
a
Survivor
of
domestic
violence.
Here
in
Buncombe,
County
I've
worked
I've
had
to
work
within
the
court
systems
here
and
also
work
with
the
agencies
that
support
survivors
of
domestic
violence
and
I
feel
really
privileged
to
be
on
the
fatality
review
team,
because
it
provides
a
very
concrete
way
to
try
and
create
changes
in
the
systems
that
exist
where
we
see
gaps
and
also
a
way
to
work
together
with
all
the
agencies
and
people
involved.
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
A
Q
We
also
recommend
creating
a
domestic
violence,
specific
multi-disciplinary
team
to
include
fiscal
Legal
Services
the
DA's
office
helped
mate
law
enforcement,
pre-trial
spark,
the
VA
and
probation,
and
one
of
the
most
encouraging
things
that
I've
seen
by
from
being
on
the
domestic
violence.
Fatality
review
team
is
that
it's
been
amazing
to
see
agencies
work
together
and
identify
problems
and
solutions.
R
G
That's
a
really
great
question:
I
think
the
intention
of
the
Family
Justice
Center,
one
of
the
intentions
of
the
Family
Justice
Center,
was
that
it
would
serve
as
a
springboard
for
things
like
the
dvfrt
or
additional
groups
like
the
multi-disciplinary
team
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it
would
necessarily
live
in
the
Family
Justice
Center,
but
it
would
definitely
be
a
part
of
the
work
happening
at
the
Family
Justice,
Center
I.
Think
one
of
the
with
the
recommendations.
G
R
S
I'd
be
curious
to
to
chat
with
you
all
about
that
at
some
point
and
just
kind
of
brainstorm.
What
that
looks
like
I
noticed
you
did.
You
expressly
exclude
a
judge
for
a
reason,
or
is
that
something
you
could
consider
for
this
kind
of
team
or
I
don't
want
to
get
in
the
way
of
your
vision,
I'm
just
curious
about
the
thought
process.
There.
P
So
just
like,
so
you
might
have
noticed
as
well
that
child
protective
services
is
not
listed
as
one
of
the
partners.
So
there's
definitely
some
concern
related
to
some
confidentiality
issues
and
things
that
cannot
be
shared
in
that
setting.
We
have
explored
some
of
those
options
and
I
think
we
would
talk
with
Josh
Scott
who
sits
on
our
domestic
violence.
Fatality
review
team
just
in
in
terms
of
what
would
be
possible
excellent.
Q
Thank
you
both.
So
here
are
the
sources
we
used
in
our
statistics.
If
you
would
like
to
study
them
further-
and
we
are
grateful
to
be
able
to
share
this
information
with
you
today,
because
we
know
that
domestic
violence
thrives
in
the
shadows,
while
these
conversations
can
be
uncomfortable,
it's
important
that
we
have
them
so
that
Buncombe
County
can
continue
to
eliminate
domestic
violence
from
our
communities
and
interrupt
intergenerational
trauma.
We
have
that
opportunity
and
we
appreciate
your
support
in
the
broader
community's
support
in
creating
a
safe
and
healthy
Community,
where
all
residents
thrived.
A
A
Very
good,
no
old
business
items,
new
business
resolution
authorizing
a
grant:
a
franchise
for
convalescence
ambulance,
transportation
to
Mountain,
Area,
ground,
non-emergency
transportation.
Llc
Michael
will
present
this
item.
Maybe
some
help
for
some
other
folks
and
yes,
I've,
had
a
presentation
about
this
at
the
last
meeting.
So
I'll
need
some
help.
T
U
Thank
you
good
evening.
So
again,
we've
reviewed
magnet's
request
from
an
EMS
system
standpoint.
We
support
their
Award
of
a
franchise
and
they
have,
you
know,
been
established
in
the
community
for
several
years.
I've
worked
with
some
of
the
local
Partners,
including
land
of
the
sky,
providing
ambulatory
and
wheelchair-based
services
and
looking
to
expand
into
the
the
stretchered
transport
services.
That's
then
requires
a
franchise
under
our
ordinance
and
under
State
EMS
rule.
A
V
V
The
friends
of
fonta
Florida
State
trail
is
now
applying
for
Grant
funds
to
study
the
segment
from
the
eastern
boundary
of
Black
Mountain
to
the
Buncombe
County
McDowell
County
Line,
and
the
reason
that
they're
looking
for
the
Eastern
bound
of
Black
Mountain
is
that
black
mountain
is
already
studying
the
additional
segment
that
runs
through
the
actual
town
of
Black
Mountain.
So
this
would
be
an
expanded
look
at
the
feasibility
from
that
Eastern
Point
to
the
Buncombe
County
Line
they're,
not
requesting
any
funds
for
what
this
resolution
is
just
for.
Support
of
the
project.
W
W
A
X
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
budget
amendment
establishes
two
administrative
projects:
one
for
the
affordable
housing
Bond
and
one
for
the
open
space
bond
with
corresponding
budgets
for
the
2022
General
obligation,
Bonds
in
a
multi-year
fund
dedicated
to
the
use
of
the
bonds.
The
budget
provides
salary
and
benefits
and
Associated
operating
costs
for
two
Bond
managers
for
seven
years.
Future
projects
for
the
bonds
will
be
brought
via
budget
amendment
or
ordinance
and
budgeted
by
project.
N
A
A
All
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
post
all
right.
We
now
come
to
the
community
reparations
commission
there's
a
we
need
to
appoint
one
regular
member
and
then
two
alternates,
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
suggest
is
that
we
first
appoint
the
regular
member
and
then
once
we've
made
that
decision
we'll
move
on
to
the
two
alternate
positions
so.
A
We
could
go
around
and
everyone
could
identify
the
person
that
they're
most
supportive
of
in
terms
of
the
position.
However,
just
from
process
standpoint
there's
a
lot
of
applicants,
so
it
may
be
that
someone
might
be
identified
even
though
they
only
get
maybe
two
or
three
Commissioners
to
identify
them.
So
we
could
I'm
just
kind
of
thinking
out
loud
here.
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
think
about
this.
Before
we
could
identify
the
top
two
and
then
we
could
have
the
commission
select
between
them.
A
A
A
Y
Y
A
I'm
open
I'm
open
to
either
yeah
so
okay.
So
let
me
ask
you
this,
though,
out
do
we
or
in
Commissioners
like
do
we
want
to
make
sure?
Because
someone
could
again
there's
just
so
many
applicants,
someone
might
win,
but
literally
maybe
two
or
three
Commissioners.
Only
so
a
majority
of
the
Commissioners
will
be
paying
for
someone
else.
Maybe
that's
fine.
Why
don't
we
just
you
want
to
just
go
with
that.
A
S
A
A
A
A
U
Y
R
A
And
then
there's
three
candidates
I
believe
receive
three
votes:
each
is
a
Corey
Jackson,
Patrick,
Fitzsimmons
and
Catherine
Kaiser
Ray
Lamar.
Is
that
consistent
with
what
you
have
all
right?
So
I
think
we
need
to
go
back
around
one
more
time
and
each
commissioner
will
vote
one
time.
Choosing
among
the
three
applicants.
So
Martin
will
bring
it
back
over
to
your
side
again
and
Corey
Jackson,
Patrick,
Fitzsimmons
or
Catherine
Kaiser
Ray.
A
All
right
so
Catherine
Kaiser
Ray
got
the
most
votes
all
right.
We
now
come
to
the
Woodfin
water
board
and
we've
got
one
appointment.
This
is
to
fill
a
vacancy
until
the
next
Woodfin
water
district
election.
So
it's
kind
of
an
unusual.
It's
unusual
for
us
to
appoint.
This
is
normally
an
elected
position,
but
under
statute
the
Commissioners
need
to
fill
vacancies.
So
Amanda
we'll
start
over
here
with
you.
A
Z
A
A
A
Okay,
this
is
the
place
where
we
just
make
a
processes
on
the
spot,
because
every
situation
is
a
little
different.
It
seems
like
okay
and
Lamar.
What
would
you
recommend
in
terms
of
how
long
we
keep
this
process
open?
We've
already
gotten
a
lot
of
folks
contacting
us
and
those
will
all
be
we'll
follow
up
with
all
those
folks
to
make
sure
they
can
apply.
So
you
need
time
to
schedule
interviews
too,
so
how?
When
should
we
cut
this
off.
Z
Revised
that
we
open
it
up
tomorrow
and
we
go
through
the
week
at
least
give
them
the
weekend
to
go
through
potentially
next
Tuesday,
so
we'll
have
a
week-long
process
of
them
being
able
to
apply
apply,
and
then
we
can
send
it
out
to
you
as
soon
as
it
closes
on
Tuesday.
Let's
say
we
ended
at
Tuesday
at
five.
We
can
get
those
applications
out
to
you
Wednesday,
and
that
gives
us
about
two
to
three
days
to
schedule.
Z
A
Yeah
yeah,
you
might
even
put
that
in
the
announcement
or
something
like
that
just
so
people
know
like
that's
when
it'll
be
done
and
if
someone
needs
to
zoom
or
something
I
guess
we
could
do
that,
but
that
will
be
the
date
it
needs
to
happen.
I
think,
although
maybe
we
should
talk
for
a
moment
about
what
time
of
the
day
we're
going
to
do
that
because
we
have
an
affordable
housing
committee
meeting
that
day,
I
believe
that's
our
scheduled
time
simple.
A
A
Right,
okay,
so
11
30
work
for
everyone
else,
all
right!
Well,
let's
plan
on
you
could
even
just
put
that
in
the
announcement.
If
you
want
to
11
30
to
one
o'clock
on
the
7th
is
when
we'll
interview.
Folks,
all
right-
and
maybe
everyone
just
make
a
note
on
your
calendar-
to
check
your
emails
Tuesday
afternoon
Wednesday
morning
to
send
your
send
your
Wednesday
morning.
Send
your
recommendation
to
Lamar
for
who
you'd
like
to
interview
foreign.
A
I
think
that's
all
correct.
Yes,
there's
a
bunch
there's
it's
mostly
it's
pretty
heavy
on
technical
expertise
and
then
with
some
like
Citizen
and
business
customer
perspectives
as
well
and
I.
Think
they
yeah
well
so
they'll,
you
know
certainly
be
appointing
a
lot
of
the
technical
positions
since
that's
out
there
all.
Z
So
just
clarify
this:
we
will
get
all
the
applications
in
and
they
may
be
very
diverse
in
what
we
get
we're
going
to
send
all
of
the
applications
to
you
and
you're
going
to
decide
because,
obviously,
like
you
said,
the
city
would
probably
already
have
appointed
their
positions
and
then
you'll
just
go
through
them
and
pick
the
ones
that
fit
the
category
that
you're
trying
to
Point.
That's.
A
Right
well,
I'll
identify
the
person
we
like
the
most.
If
you
can
send
us
additional
information
about
who
the
city
who
the
city
council
is
appointed.
So
we
know
that
that'd
be
helpful
in
US
kind
of
focusing
on,
so
we
so
we
have
that
information
and
then
the
other
thing
I'd
say
Lamar
is
that
if
we're
really
getting
a
lot
of
applicants,
if
maybe
maybe
midweek
or
something
send
us
what
you've
got
so
that,
if
there's
a
lot,
we
don't
have
to
review
a
ton
of
them.
You
know
all
at
one
time.
A
E
A
Z
A
A
I
would
suggest
we
keep
that
process
open
and,
and
then
let's
also
discuss
that
at
the
next
meeting,
this
is
kind
of
a
long-term
position,
because
it's
going
to
so
we
don't
need
to
rush.
We
need
to
make
sure
we
get.
You
know
all
those
appointments
filled,
but
this
is
to
kind
of
monitor
this
over
time.
So,
let's
keep
it
open
and
again
to
members
of
the
public
in
our
Communications
folks,
let's
make
sure
we
get
the
word
out
that
hey.
A
Z
A
A
All
right
we've
got
a
few
announcements:
January
25th
at
12,
30
p.m,
there'll
be
a
joint
Asheville
city
council,
Buncombe,
County
Commission
meeting
with
the
National
Alliance
in
homelessness.
The
work
session
will
be
held
at
Harris
Community
Center
87
Haywood
Street
Asheville
North
Carolina
28801
January
30th
at
10
30
a.m.
The
Commissioners
will
hold
their
legislative
agenda
meeting
with
members
of
the
North
Carolina
General
Assembly
delegation
at
115,
Hendersonville
Road,
Burley,
B
room
Asheville,
NC,
28803,
February,
7th
at
3
pm.