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From YouTube: Buncombe County Commissioners Meeting (October 3, 2017)
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This is the Buncombe County Board of Commissioners Regular Meeting on October 3, 2017.
A
B
A
A
Before
we
begin
our
meeting
this
evening,
let
us
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
reflection
or
silent
prayer
for
the
lives
that
were
cut
short
here
in
our
own
community
and
in
our
country,
and
for
how
we
can
support
one
another
in
our
local
community
and
in
our
nation.
Please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence.
A
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions,
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office
and
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
would
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also.
A
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
there
being
none
all
board.
Members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
each
item
that
the
Commission
will
be
voting
on
this
evening.
All
right,
we
now
come
to
the
public
comment
section
of
our
meeting.
Let
me
just
recite
our
policies
on
this.
The
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
A
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
during
the
public
comment
period.
This
is
your
time
to
speak
to
the
board
and
the
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
access
on
any
subject.
That's
been
previously
presented
to
the
board
during
the
same
meeting.
So
if
you
speak
on
any
of
the
agenda
items
that
will
be
considering
tonight
during
the
initial
public
comment,
you
won't
be
allowed
to
speak
again
during
the
later
public
comment.
All
right
are
there
any
folks
who
would
like
to
address
the
board
at
this
time?
C
If
they're,
as
proposed
there,
multiple
housing
units
with
roofs
and
driveways
and
streets,
this
wet
stream,
my
fear
is-
will
become
a
torrent
that
cannot
go
under
my
property.
It
would
create
ruin
and
havoc
on
my
property.
So
that's
externa.
Just
this
is
premature.
I
know
it
hasn't
been
down
to
details,
but
I
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that
I
is
one
property
owner
would
be
concerned.
I
think
there
are
others
that
might
be
affected
as
well.
Thank
you
for
listening.
Thank.
A
E
Well,
that's
two
of
us:
I've
got
I'm
gonna
speak
on
the
same
topic.
My
name
is
Carter
Webb
I,
guess
you'll
notify
me
when
the
minutes
I
live
in
oak
forest
and
oak
forest
is
directly
across
from
the
same
project
that
he
was
speaking
about
it's
directly
across
from
Overlook
and
the
property,
the
project
known
as
overlooked
point
on
October
16th
at
9:30.
In
the
morning
the
Buncombe
County
Planning
Board
will
hold
a
preliminary
plan.
E
Approval
for
Nolen
fronds
on
behalf
of
Paul
hoist
for
the
development
of
a
major
subdivision
of
98
Lots,
like
I,
said:
I
live
on
West
Ridge
Drive,
and
my
concern
has
to
do
with
how
this
development
will
affect
my
neighborhood
I'm.
Also,
the
president
of
the
forest
property
owners
association
proposal
is
for
one
of
the
entrances
and
exits
to
this
new
developed
B
development
to
be
to
end
up
with
West
trees
Drive
where
I
live
and
I
spoke
about
this
last
month,
but
want
to
make
sure
it's
still
on
your
radar.
E
West
Ridge
Drive
runs
from
overlook
road
on
the
north
to
Spring
side
drive
on
the
south,
with
the
increase
in
traffic
on
overlook
road
is
very
likely.
People
will
use
our
street
as
it
cut
through
from
and
to
Springside
Drive
more
than
it's
currently
being
used
as
a
cut
through
street.
Additionally,
it's
my
understanding
that
the
developer
plans
for
the
construction
of
these
98
homes
to
take
five
years
to
complete
the
entire
all
the
units
so
we're
looking
at
construction
traffic
for
five
years.
A
F
I'm
glad
you
clarified
the
public
comment,
so
we
can
talk
what
we
want
to
talk
up
here
on
public
comment,
if
you
like
it,
if
you
don't
I'm
concerned
about
the
aim
to
ball
fields
and
you
commissioners,
most
of
unions,
don't
know-
and
some
of
you
do,
but
the
inka
ball
fields
put
on
a
90
acre
tract
40.
Some
acres,
44
acres
is
on
the
landfill
and
a
bad
one
at
that
contaminated
the
worst
of
any
kind.
F
This
is
something
that
I
don't
understand.
Is
why
this
board
and
I'll
say
this
board,
but
its
previous
board?
Why?
No
one
is
taking
a
look
at
what
I'm
talking
about
you
can't
build
up
20
acres
of
land
and
expect
to
be
the
same
when
it
comes
to
flood
again
and
I.
Guess:
money,
talks
and
BS
walks,
because
that's
exactly
what's
happened,
these
millionaires
out
there
it's
open
thing
up
is
pitiful.
Money
can
buy
anything.
Health
safety
and
welfare
should
be
the
responsibility
of
this
board
and
I.
F
F
If
we
put
1.3
million
dollars
into
it,
we
have
a
lot
better
use
than
that
for
our
money
and
if
you
think
it's
less
contaminated
cuz,
you
donated
you
better
think
again
and
I
hope
the
future,
their
kids
don't
have
any
problems,
but
we've
got
more
problems
than
you
can
shake
a
stick
out
there
in
the
Inca
district
on
this
ball
field,
site
and
I.
Don't
know
why
people
just
dip
in
their
lip,
but
one
day
you
might
have
to
unzip
it
when,
when
bad
things,
don't.
G
G
If
it's
understanding
is
correct,
the
money
came
from
the
sale
of
a
building
that
those
same
people
the
inca
partners
donated
to
the
county.
You
turned
around
and
acted
as
the
broker
sold.
The
building
gave
the
money
to
back
to
these
people
who
had
formed
a
so-called
nonprofit,
the
inca
youth,
softball
softball
organization,
for
them
to
use
for
this
converting
the
landfill
into
ball
fields
for
children.
I
gave
miss
Hewes
a
copy
of
the
letter
from
the
southern
Environmental
Law
Center,
which
you've
all
seen
and
I
want
to
detail.
G
What's
in
that
letter,
what
makes
the
BAS
American
Inka
brownfield
so
dangerous
this
landfill.
The
EPA
has
documented
that
30
tons
of
coal
ash
were
dumped
daily
into
the
unlined
41
acre
landfill,
beginning
in
1929.
The
American
Inka
power
plant
used
250
tons
of
coal
each
day
to
supply
residential
and
industrial
electricity
for
the
area.
Coal
ash
contains
concentrated
amounts
of
uranium
and
thorium,
which
are
radioactive.
Coal
ash
also
contains
concentrated
amounts
of
heavy
metals
such
as
lead,
mercury,
arsenic,
cadmium,
chromium
and
selenium,
which
are
hazardous
and
Karsa
gen
carcinogenic
to
humans
and
to
wildlife.
G
Not
only
does
that
landfill
contain
coal
ash,
but
it
contains
toxic
chemicals
used
in
the
production
of
nylon
and
rayon.
These
were
also
dumped
in
the
landfill
since
1929
until
its
closure
in
2006
in
2006,
carbon
disulfide
levels
exceeded
State
soil
standards
by
three
thousand
seven
hundred
percent,
causing
an
explosion
and
fire
itself
combusted
when
it
was
exposed
to
air
deed
restrictions
on
this
land
prohibit
school,
daycares
playgrounds,
which
are
ball
fields
and
water
wells
on
the
property.
G
So
I'm
not
here
to
condemn
past
actions
but
I'm
here
to
question
them
and
I
hope.
The
new
board
members
will
question
these
past
actions.
How
this
all
transpired,
I,
hope,
you'll
go
back
and
look
at
the
minutes
of
the
meetings
and
mountain
true
was
involved
in
this,
as
well
as
the
southern
Environmental
Law
Center
and
citizens
like
Jerry,
Rice
and
myself,
because
of
our
concern
for
the
citizens
of
bunkum
and
our
children.
So
I
hope
you
will
do
your
due
diligence.
G
F
H
H
H
We
confirmed
that
all
of
our
required
paperwork
was
in
order
and
it
was
turned
in
as
we
had
been
asked
to
do
by
the
previous
county
manager.
So
all
of
that
is
complete
and
you
have
it
in
hand.
I
feel
that
we
had
a
very
productive
covers
conversation,
but
that
was
two
months
ago
was
not
seen
any
action
yet
four
years
ago
we
had
formally
responded
to
any
type
of
column,
Buncombe
County
four
years
ago,
that
was
taken
away
and
we
respond
only
into
the
city
of
Asheville.
Now,
as
far
as
emergency
responses.
H
H
This
is
really
tough
for
me
to
be
up
here,
because
my
business
is
suffering
some
very
bad,
and
that
equates
to
our
community
suffering
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
calls
that
go
on
in
this
county
and
Jerry
addresses
those
the
best
he
can
but
we're
overwhelmed,
and
we
need
to
be
in
the
position
to
help
you
guys.
H
H
H
We
have
some
former
employees
who
call
us
quite
frequently
that
want
their
jobs
back.
We
need
to
get
put
in
the
position
to
give
them
their
jobs
back.
We
we
provide
long,
lasting
jobs
and
we
really
want
to
work
with
you
guys.
We
just
need
to
see
some
progress
and
I
appreciate
you
and
hope
to
hear
from
you
soon.
Thank
you.
I
Leslee
called
by
living,
Candler
I
just
had
a
question
I
really
liked
the
way
in
the
staff
reports
that
the
Human
Resources
went
about
posting
information.
They
did.
They
told
us
why
they
gave
us
the
old
draft
in
the
new
draft
and
I
really
I
really
appreciated
that.
But
on
the
item
before
that
on
the
agenda,
where
we
were
talking
about
the
the
internal
audit,
I
didn't
see,
you
know
it's
like:
what's
the
purpose,
what
are
we
trying
to
solve
us?
I
A
lot
of
big
government
words
I
couldn't
really
get
my
mind
around
what
what
we're
supposed
to
be
solving
with
this
and
I
had
the
same
issue
with
the
a
BTEC.
You
know
it's
like.
Well,
didn't
you
have
a
memorandum
of
understanding
before
that,
just
wondering
if
I
know,
you
don't
have
to
answer
me,
but
if,
during
the
course
of
the
meeting,
you
could
just
give
us
some
background
and
tell
us
why
we're
doing
those
two
things
I'd
appreciate
it.
Thanks.
A
J
Evening
my
name's
Stephen
Campbell
I,
live
in
the
Fairview
area,
have
for
40
years
work
for
Buncombe
County
EMS
for
11
in
the
80s
and
early
90s
and
I'm
here
tonight,
in
support
of
the
medic
franchise,
I've
known
those
people
for
30
years
and
they're
good
people,
and
they
provide
a
valuable
service
to
their
community
and
do
it
very
do
it
with
excellence
now
I
can't
get
into
anything
else
about
it,
but
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I'm,
it's
important
I
think
that
they're
necessary
in
our
County.
Thank
you
very
much.
All.
K
My
name
is
Amos
Johnson
I'm
in
support
of
the
mat
it
back
in
2010
my
daughter,
Ashley.
She
was
16
years
old.
She
had
an
accidental
long
shows
row.
It
was
a
fatal
accident,
Kermit
Ollie.
He
just
happened
to
be
an
area
and
he
went.
He
was
the
first
responder
and
it
wasn't
for
him
showing
up
when
he
did
I
wouldn't
got
closure
with
my
daughter.
He
revived
her
long
enough
for
me,
get
to
the
hospital
and
see
her
before
she
passed
away.
K
I
mean
it's
kind
of
a
you
know
a
no-brainer
here,
whoever's
closest
to
the
accident
scene.
That's
who
should
respond,
I
mean
you
know,
County
your
city
I
mean
he
don't
have
to
be
the
man.
It
could
be
scowling
anybody,
whoever
the
closest
she'll,
be
able
to
respond
to
that
accident.
That's
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
A
M
M
A
N
Commission
Chairman
miss
miss
stone.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
the
time.
I
just
want
to
reiterate
everything
and
everybody
said:
we've
been
here
30
years.
Actually
it's
about
32!
Now
so
we've
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
we
want
to
continue
what
we're
doing.
We
love
the
people
of
Buncombe,
County
I
told
you.
My
husband
was
a
an
employee,
Buncombe
County
for
30
years.
He
retired
and
we
lost
him
11
years
ago,
but
he
put
his
life
and
energy
all
into
medic
and
we
need
to
keep
that
legacy
going.
N
We
would
like
to
invite
each
and
every
one
of
you
at
no
cap
no
cost
to
the
county
at
all
to
come
out
to
medic
to
view
what
we
have
I,
don't
know
that
any
of
you've
ever
been
out
there.
We
would
love
to
invite
you
we'd
love
to
show
off
what
we've
got.
We've
built
it
from
day,
one
our
own
strength,
our
own
money
and,
and
we
work
hard
to
make
you
proud
and
us
proud,
but
we
would
like
to
request
beyond
the
upcoming
agenda.
N
N
For
so
we
need
to
reiterate
that
it
needs
to
be
the
closest
ambulance,
the
closest,
be
it
whoever
it
is
medic
or
whoever
we
worked
alongside
I
love,
both
cam
County,
so
I
know
all
the
people
there
I
trained
it
a
BTEC,
so
I
know
most
of
them
and
they're
good
guys.
We
don't
have
a
bad
guy
in
the
house,
so
you
can
see
our
support
and
we
appreciate
everything
you
do.
Thank
you.
A
O
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners
feels
are
graded.
In
fact,
the
outfields
are
not
seated,
they
should
be
seated
any
day.
The
infields
are
going
to
be
a
synthetic
turf.
The
parking
lots
are
graded,
they've
got
some
stone
on
them.
Irrigation
systems
in
the
dugouts
are
design
that
that
construction
will
start
next
bottom
line
if
the
weather
holds
the
project
will
be
finished
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
they
anticipate
having
their
first
major
tournament
in
July
of
next
year.
P
B
P
A
Just
comment
on
that
and
also
comment,
but
it's
really
question
confirm
that
this
is
accurate,
so
my
understanding
is
that
I
think
the
environmental
concerns
that
were
raised
are
very
legitimate
issues.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
things
that
have
happened
out
on
in
that
area
that
have
resulted
in
some
contamination
issues
over
over
many
years.
So
my
understanding
is
that
mountain
true
and
the
southern
Environmental
Law
Center,
who
miss
Baldwin,
quoted
from
some
of
the
comments
they
made
raising
concerns
that
they
reached
an
agreement
with
the
state
in
the
they
had
those
parties.
A
Q
A
The
the
concerns
that
were
raised
by
the
southern
Environmental
Law
Center,
on
behalf
of
their
client
mountain
shrew
and
some
of
the
comments
were
read
into
the
record.
Those
parties
who
expressed
those
concerns
worked
with
the
state
to
address
them
and
they
have
signed
off
on
the
the
plans
for
the
property
for
the
ball
fields.
Q
A
P
I
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
knew
that
there
was
two
million
dollars
that
come
from
the
Tourism
Board
as
a
as
a
grant
which,
at
that
time,
I
don't
I,
don't
think
it
is
now
was
the
largest
grant
that
they
had
issued.
You
know,
and
for
it
to
go
to
the
you
know
to
the
western
part
of
the
county
for
the
children
and
other.
P
Q
R
P
A
Mr.
Creighton,
well,
we
got
you
up
there.
There
was
also
a
question
from
one
of
the
folks
who
commented
about
the
a
BTEC
item.
Would
you
just
briefly,
could
you
just
briefly
or
who
who's
the
best
person
to
mr.
freer,
yes,
okay,
that'd
be
great,
someone
could
just
share,
maybe
if
just
a
few
a
little
bit
of
information
kind
of
explaining
the
purpose
of
the
Memorandum
of
Understanding.
S
Yes,
sir,
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
as
you
recall,
back
in
2011,
the
voters
approved
the
quarter
cent
sales
tax
and
that
was
primarily
used
for
the
allied
health
building
construction
and
there
was
a
memorandum
of
understanding
in
place
at
that
time.
Now
we've
sort
of
come
full
circle.
We
have
maintenance
issues
and
this
board
has
tasked
Greg
Israel
to
go
out
there
and
work
with
the
college
to
make
about
million
and
a
half
dollars
worth
of
maintenance
and
repair
items.
S
As
a
checklist,
I've
worked
with
Chris
Campbell
the
college
attorney
to
make
sure
that
he
agrees
with
me
that
the
session
law
that
was
placed
put
in
place
by
the
General
Assembly
six
or
seven
years
ago,
which
would
allow
for
that
construction,
is
still
in
place.
It
does
not
sunset
until
the
end
of
2018.
S
A
Q
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
The
next
time
on
the
agenda
is
the
certificate
of
appreciation
to
the
arc
of
Buncombe
County
for
60
years
of
service
and
I.
Believe
Linda
McDaniel
is
here
this
evening
and
if
there's
anybody
else
from
the
arc
who's
here
as
well,
please
feel
free
to
join
Commissioner
Whitesides
up
at
the
podium
and
he
will
present
the
certificate.
R
My
fellow
commissioners,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
it's
a
privilege
for
me
to
honor
one
of
the
organizations
in
the
county
nonprofits
been
near
to
endear
to
me
for
a
number
of
years
now,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
I'm
still
a
member
of
their
board,
and
we
will
celebrate
this
Friday
night
at
the
event
center.
Our
60th
anniversary
and
I'd
like
to
invite
all
of
you
to
join
us
there.
It's
six
o'clock
and
I
remember
the
time.
B
R
T
I'd
like
to
thank
the
county
commissioners
and
everyone
for
all
their
support
through
these
60
years.
Sometimes
we
feel
like
we're
back
where
they
started
from
because
times
the
heart
and
funds
have
been
cut
and
we
still
have
people
on
our
door,
but
we
thank
you
each
and
every
one
and
we
thank
Jerry
Rice
for
what
he
does
trial
people.
Thank
you.
R
Q
Q
Q
It's
still
significant
in
Buncombe
County,
but
I
feel
with
these
heroes.
Right
here,
captain
smart
Julie
clip
Nicholson
sheriff
Duncan
April
Burgess.
We
have
made
it
an
indent
so
that
people
they
don't
have
to
feel
isolated
when
they
see
the
Family,
Justice,
Center
and
I
hope
anybody
watching
this
or
hears.
This
knows
that
these
folks
have
their
back.
So
it
will
be
a
great
day
when
we
don't
have
to
designate
a
month
like
this,
but
we're
not
there
yet,
but
I
feel
like
these
are
heroes
in
our
community
and
we
are
moving
forward.
Q
Partnering
with
community
organizations,
Buncombe
County,
Sheriff's,
Department,
Buchan,
County,
Health
and
Human
Services,
the
District
Attorney's
Office
Asheville,
Police,
Department,
Mission,
Hospital
helpmate,
our
voice,
Pisco
legal
services
and
other
agencies
who
are
working
toward
a
community
free
from
domestic
violence
and
whereas
Buncombe
County
is
committed
to
supporting
the
safety
of
domestic
violence
victims
and
it's
opened.
The
Buncombe
County
Family,
Justice
Center.
Q
We're
sorry
survivors
can
access
coordinated
support
from
different
partners,
agencies,
including
law
enforcement,
nonprofit
services
providers
and
healthcare
services,
and
whereas
domestic
violence
prevention
month
is
an
opportunity
to
stand
with
domestic
violence
survivors
to
celebrate
the
progress
we
have
made
in
combating
these
crimes
and
to
recommit
to
preventing
domestic
violence
in
Buncombe
County.
Now,
therefore,
be
it
proclaimed
by
the
Board
of
Duncan
County
Commissioners
as
follows.
One
at
the
month
of
October
2017
be
proclaimed
domestic
violence
prevention
month
in
Buncombe.
County.
Q
U
U
A
Great,
thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
and
for
all
the
work
you
do
to
address
this
important
concern
in
our
community
and
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is:
is
an
update
on
the
Family
Justice
Center,
so
we'll
just
move
on
right
on
into
that
so
Julie
clip
Nicholson
is
here
to
provide
an
update
for
us
Julie
thanks
for
being
here
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Thank.
V
V
Our
mission
is
building
a
resilient
community
free
from
domestic
and
sexual
violence,
and
we
do
that
by
integrating
existing
community
resources,
increasing
victims,
safety,
holding
offenders
accountable
and
engaging
the
community.
Those
are
our
objectives
and
we
have
accomplished
those
objectives
this
year,
when
we
open
our
door
in
July
2016
through
June
2017
fiscal
year,
seven
year,
17
we've
provided
417
integrated
intakes
at
the
Family
Justice
Center.
V
That
is
when
a
survivor
walks
through
our
door
for
the
first
time
is
met
with
an
intake
specialist
who
can
help
assess
her
needs
and
get
her
connected
to
the
additional
service
providers
that
can
help
create
safety
for
her
51
percent
of
those
intake
accessed
more
than
one
service
provider
in
their
first
visit.
What
we've
learned
this
year
is
that
sometimes
people
who
have
experienced
trauma
want
to
find
out
about
their
resources
available.
V
They
want
to
hear
about
their
options
before
they
take
the
next
steps
and
that
is
available
at
the
Family
Justice
Center
as
well.
Thanks
to
our
partners
at
mission,
health
84
clients
have
been
able
to
access
sexual
assault,
medical
exams
and
other
clinical
services
at
our
forensic
medical
exam
clinic
on-site
at
the
Family
Justice
Center.
So
they
have
not
had
to
go
to
the
emergency
department.
V
84
percent
of
the
people
seeking
those
that
integrated
intake
service
identified
domestic
violence
as
the
primary
victimization
that
they've
experienced
12
percent,
identified
sexual
assault
or
stalking
as
the
primary
victimization
that
they
were
seeking
services
for.
As
of
the
first
quarter
of
this
year,
we've
seen
a
50
percent
increase
in
the
number
of
intakes
that
have
walked
through
our
doors,
so
our
outreach
and
services
are
working
in
the
community,
and
people
are
hearing
through
word-of-mouth
coming
to
seek
services.
V
V
We
are
holding
offenders
accountable.
Our
law
enforcement
partners
have
made
the
crimes
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
a
priority
in
FY
17
568
people
were
arrested
for
intimate
partner,
domestic
violence
and
59
people
were
arrested
for
sexual
assault
crimes.
The
services
at
the
Family
Justice
Center
are
designed
for
survivors,
but
Buncombe
County
has
partnered
with
the
SPARC
foundation
to
provide
an
array
of
services
for
people
who
are
using
violence
in
their
relationship.
V
In
FY
17,
we
had
50
people
who
successfully
completed
the
batterers
intervention
program
through
the
SPARC
foundation,
learning
a
new
way
to
be
in
relationship.
The
work
of
the
Family
Justice
Center
partners
is
done
under
the
incredible
leadership
of
our
Sheriff
Dan
Duncan
helpmates
executive
director
April
Burgess
Johnson
I'd
love
to
invite
them
up
to
share
about
their
experience.
Their
services.
W
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
when
I
think
back
to
the
start
of
the
Family,
Justice,
Center,
I,
think
back
to
those
conversations
and
those
long
hours
sitting
around
the
table
with
all
the
partners
discussing
how
we
were
going
to
work
through
all
of
our
different
policies
and
things
to
bring
about
a
more
just
outcome
for
our
survivors
of
domestic
violence.
And
when
you
look
in
the
dictionary
for
justice,
equitable
moral
righteousness,
those
words
are
used
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is.
W
This
group
has
been
in
pursuit
of
justice
since
those
early
days,
even
though
we
have
been
doing
very
well
and
the
numbers
reflect
that
a
lot
of
times.
Justice
can't
be
reflected
in
numbers.
What
I
would
say
is
is
that
the
survivors
and
and
victims
of
sexual
violence
that
come
to
the
Family,
Justice,
Center
I,
think
leave
with
that
sense
of
their
voice
being
heard
justice
being
served,
and
even
though
we're
we're
being
very
successful
with
those
things,
we
continue
to
look
at
ways
that
we
can
assess
ourselves.
W
We're
looking
at
a
lethality
case
review
amongst
our
partners,
and
we
need
some
legislative
help
with
that.
And
that's
that
should
be
coming
and
on
the
way
and
that's
going
to
allow
us
to
sit
down
and
look
at
cases
were
where
a
death
occurred
in
these
horrific
instances
and
we
can
set
down
and
not
a
blame
full
way,
but
a
blameless
way
of
saying.
How
can
we
do
better?
How
can
we
serve
better
so
I'm
very
proud
to
be
part
of
this,
along
with
the
partners
April.
U
1St
I
just
want
to
reiterate
how
incredibly
privileged
I
feel
to
live
and
work
in
Buncombe
County.
Ending
domestic
violence
has
been
my
life's
work
and
I've
never
been
more
excited
about
it
than
I
am
at
this
moment
in
this
place,
and
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
extraordinary
leadership
this
commission
and
county
manager
ston
have
shown
and
supporting
initiatives
to
make
sure
that
we're
continuously
improving
our
community's
response
to
domestic
violence.
Helpmates
been
honored
to
be
a
part
of
that.
U
Talking
about
the
impact
of
helpmate
services
and
this
community
partnership
that
we
have
around
addressing
domestic
violence,
I
think
is
best
told
through
the
lens
of
the
families
that
experience
it.
So
I
want
to
tell
you
about.
Sandra
Sandra
was
a
woman
who
was
in
an
abusive
relationship
that
spans
nearly
two
decades.
She
had
an
11
year
old
daughter
who
was
the
light
of
her
world,
and
her
husband
was
continuously
controlling
of
her.
U
He
wasn't
always
physically
violent,
although
sometimes
he
was
but
the
hardest
thing
for
her
was
the
constant
emotional
abuse
that
she
experienced
the
put-downs
that
he
took
all
of
the
families
money
that
he
controlled
where
she
went
who
she
talked
to
on
how
long
she
got
to
stay
there.
One
night,
while
her
child
was
away
at
a
sleepover.
Her
husband
again
became
violent.
He
drugged
her
through
the
house
and
a
neighbor
overheard.
Her
screaming
and
called
law
enforcement
law
enforcement
came
out.
U
They
used
their
lethality
assessment
protocol
and
they
talked
to
her
about
the
danger
that
she
was
in.
They
said
it
was
a
real.
A
light
bulb
went
off
for
her
about
what
this,
what
this
relationship
was
doing
to
her
and
how
was
impacting
her
health
and
that
she
really
could
die
if
he
continued
to
escalate
his
behavior.
U
The
next
day
when
the
child
came
back
home,
they
were
sitting
down
at
lunch
and
having
a
conversation
and
the
child
wanted
to
participate
in
something
in
school
and
the
dad
looked
at
her
and
said
you
know
you're,
just
like
your
mom,
he
says
you
record
the
mom
said
you
recognized
that
look
and
it
scared
me,
and
that
was
the
moment
she
decided
to
leave
and
so
that
Monday
she
came
to
the
Family
Justice
Center.
She
walked
in
scared
to
death.
She
sat
down
with
one
of
our
intake
folks.
U
She
made
a
plan
that
plan
included
coming
in
to
help
mates
emergency
shelter
with
her
daughter
and
beginning
to
create
a
new
life,
getting
a
job,
getting
a
car
getting
transportation,
and
she
was
really
scared
about
how
that
separation
would
impact
her
daughter
and
so
I
want
to
read
you
all
something
something
that
was
written
on
a
whiteboard
in
the
kitchen
of
helpmates
emergency
shelter.
It
says
we
are
the
women
of
the
world,
we're
the
ones
who
change
it.
We
are
here
because
each
of
us
stood
up.
U
We
changed
the
world
because
of
what
we
did
and
if
you
ever
feel
like
giving
up
look
back
at
what
you
did
you're
the
one
who
made
a
difference
that
wasn't
the
mom
that
was
the
eleven-year-old
daughter.
Your
work
is
inspiring
hope
every
day,
you're
preserving
the
future
of
our
children
and
I'm
incredibly
grateful
for
you.
Thank
you.
V
As
we
continue
our
work
of
engaging
our
community
around
preventing
domestic
and
sexual
violence,
we
are
excited
to
unveil
unveil
the
still-standing
project.
Survivors
of
domestic
and
sexual
violence
are
sharing
their
stories
of
hope
and
courage
in
an
effort
to
support
survivors
who
are
currently
experiencing
domestic
violence
in
coming
forward,
and
tonight,
I
want
to
share
with
you
one
of
our
first
videos
in
the
still-standing
project.
X
B
X
B
X
B
D
V
You
will
be
able
to
find
Sara's
story,
along
with
other
survivors
stories
on
life-sized
silhouettes
in
community
buildings,
throughout
Buncombe
County
for
the
next
several
months.
If
you
come
across,
one
I
encourage
you
to
read
this
story
and
experience
the
survivors,
hope
and
courage.
So
what's
next
for
the
Family
Justice
Center,
we
are
partnering
with
statewide
organizations
to
provide
training
and
support
for
other
communities
who
have
been
inspired
by
this
work
and
want
to
create
Family
Justice
centers
in
their
community.
V
As
Sheriff
Duncan
mentioned,
we
have
our
domestic
violence
fatality
review
bill
pending
that
will
hopefully
move
forward
in
the
Senate
in
the
short
session,
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
come
together
as
a
multidisciplinary
team,
identify
systems,
gaps
and
work
to
improve
them.
We've
also
been
working
on
building
shared
data
dashboards
so
that
we're
better
able
to
identify
trends
and
coordinate
across
disciplines,
and
we
continue
to
engage
the
community
in
preventing
domestic
and
sexual
violence.
V
If
you
or
someone
you
know
has
experienced
domestic
or
sexual
violence,
the
Family
Justice
Center
is
located
at
35
Woodfin
Street.
We
are
open
Monday
through
Friday
8:00
to
5:00,
and
we
welcome
walk-ins.
There's
more
information
available
at
Buncombe,
County,
org,
backslash
FJC.
Thank
you
for
your
support
of
this
work.
Thank.
P
B
V
P
That's
on
the
first
visit,
so
the
reason
I'm
bringing
that
up.
You
know
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
to
keep
stress
from
becoming
toxic
stress
right
and
before
it
was
as
many
as
21
times
that
they
they've
met
with
21
different
people
or
had
went
to
21.
You
know
eight
different
places
and
21
different
people
or
something
like
that.
Right.
P
Right
well,
it's
I
have
to
tell
my
wife
of
my
memories
better
than
she
thinks
it
is.
But
that's
that's
fantastic.
You
know
for
people
to
come
in
there
in
one
place
and
it
may
not
mean
something
to
those
that
don't
use
it,
but
for
those
that
use
it,
it's
life-changing
worth
the
investment.
So
thank
you
for
that
big.
Thank.
V
A
All
right,
Thank,
You,
Julie
and
April
and
Sheriff
Duncan.
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
evening
and
for
your
great
work
to
address
this
important
concern
in
the
community
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
audit
committee
recommendations
and
so
Larry
Harris.
The
audit
committee
chair
and
Terry
Orange
internal
auditor
will
present
this
item
and
they're
asking
for
three
actions
this
evening.
Adoption
of
the
new
Charter
appointment
of
a
second
County
Commissioner
to
serve
on
the
Audit
Committee
and
adoption
of
internal
control
integrated
framework.
Mr.
Z
Mr.
chairman
and
commissioners
I
wanted
to
offer
just
a
brief
introduction
and
Teri's
really
going
to
do
the
work
of
detailing
out
the
recommendations
that
are
coming
from
the
audit
committee.
These
recommendations
were
presented
to
the
audit
committee
instigated
initiated
by
county
manager,
stone
and
internal
auditor
Terry
Orange,
to
bring
the
objective
is
to
create
a
space
for
the
internal
auditor
and
perhaps
internal
audit
staff
in
the
future,
to
do
the
work
that
they're
that
they
should
be
doing
in
order
to
create
that
space.
Z
That's
the
reason
that
another
commissioner
needs
to
join,
or
we
believe,
needs
to
join
the
audit
committee.
So
those
two
things
together
are
really
the
you
know.
Really
the
crux
of
the
matter
and
these
changes
you
know,
they're
pretty
significant
and,
as
you
might
gather,
potentially
is
going
to
take
some
time
for
two
commissioners.
I
know
you're
already
busy,
but
also
a
good,
a
good
bit
more
time
for
a
volunteer
audit
committee
made
up
of
folks
that
I
believe
Commissioner,
Whitesides
I
think
everyone
is
in
either
industry
or
public
accounting
or
banking,
banking.
Z
R
Like
to
make
a
comment
to
being
on
the
Audit
Committee
and
coming
from
a
different
environment
and
banking,
the
lady
asked
the
question
earlier.
Why
we're
doing
this
what's
happening
today?
Is
that
governmental
organizations,
municipal
or
county
governments
are
beginning
to
catch
up
where
we
were
in
banking
10-15
years
ago,
and
that's
all
we're
doing
is
updating
we're
coming
to
where
we
should
be,
and
in
the
past,
when
it
was
only
one
Commissioner
on
the
Audit
Committee,
we
only
had
five
commissioners.
R
AA
Thank
You
mr.
Harris,
chairman
Newman
commissioners,
I'm
Terri,
Orange
internal
auditor
for
Buncombe
County,
since
March
of
this
year
and
I
do
want
to
talk
to
you
about
a
little
more
detail
about
the
recommendations
coming
from
the
audit
committee
and
also
some
other
changes
that
we
have
made
in
internal
control.
AA
There
have
been
lots
of
re-evaluation
of
structure
and
process,
and
what
are
we
about
as
a
county
and
do
our
structures
currently
service
as
they
are
or
as
they're
organized,
and
what
adjustments
do
we
need
to
make
and
you'll
hear
more
about
adjustments
later
in
the
meeting
today
when
we
get
to
the
personnel
ordinance,
so
internal
control,
not
something
that
everyone
is
familiar
with,
so
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
is
it
really
and
it's?
You
know
all
about
what
are
our
objectives
as
a
as
an
organization
and
within
each
department?
AA
What
do
we
want
to
achieve?
What
might
get
in
the
way?
What
are
the
risks
that
we
face
and
then
the
internal
controls
are?
How
can
we
manage
the
risks
that
are
manageable?
There
may
be
some
external
risk
to
our
plans
that
we
may
not
have
control
over,
but
let's
manage
the
ones
we
can
manage
internally.
AA
So
here
is
a
list
of
the
internal
control
structural
adjustments.
We've
made
what
some
of
them
we've
already
made,
some
of
them
we're
asking
for
your
help
tonight
and
so
the
top
three
on
the
list
have
been
completed.
Repositioning
the
internal
audit
function,
county
manager,
stone
has
has
done
that
when,
when
she
restructured
the
orgonite
organization
and
made
a
number
of
changes-
and
one
thing
that
she
has
done
is
is
made
internal
audit
more
independent,
adopting
the
internal
audit
charter.
AA
The
audit
committee
is
responsible
for
that
and
and
has
adopted
it
and
then
adopting
the
audit
committee
bylaws
there
again.
The
audit
committee
adopted
their
own
bylaws
now
the
recommendations
for
you
for
tonight
or
amending
the
resolution
creating
the
audit
committee
and
the
audit
committee
Charter.
Those
are
basically
both
being
amended
for
the
same
reason
which
we'll
go
over
in
just
a
moment
and
then
adopting
the
COSO
internal
control,
integrated
framework,
so
amending
the
audit
committee,
Charter
and
resolution.
Why
are
why
is
the
Audit
Committee
requesting
this?
AA
The
principal
changes
are
we're
restructuring
just
a
little
bit
the
audit
committee,
as
mr.
Harris
already
referred
to
in
the
past.
We
have
only
had
one
Commissioner
and
we
have
also
had
a
member
of
management
on
the
committee.
But
since
the
committee
is
basically
an
arm
of
you
as
an
oversight
body,
we
would
like
to
remove
the
member
of
management
from
the
committee
and
replace
it
with
another
commissioner,
and
then
also.
We
would
like
for
the
committee
to
provide
additional
oversight
of
internal
audit,
since
it
is
becoming
more
independent
of
Management.
AA
This
is
basically
that
something
that
the
county
has
been
moving
toward
for
some
time,
but
I
think
we
feel
finally
ready
now
to
take
that
that
final
step
into
adoption
of
it-
and
that
starts
with
you,
if
you
so
choose,
and
it's
something
that
is
highly
recommended.
It's
it's
a
widely
accepted
internal
control
framework
for
all
kinds
of
organizations
and
the
government,
finance
Officers
Association
considers
it
a
best
practice
for
governmental
bodies
to
adopt.
AA
So
just
to
give
you
a
brief
overview.
The
framework
there
are
five
things:
principles,
things
that
you
need
an
internal
control
and
you
have
to
have
all
five
of
these
things
present
and
also
functioning.
So
you
have
to
have
a
good
control
environment.
That's
that's
the
foundation
of
everything
and
you
choosing
to
adopt.
This
would
be
sending
your
message
as
part
of
the
control
environment
that
this
is
important
to
us.
AA
Then,
once
you
have
a
control
environment,
the
organization
and
each
department
will
do
risk
assessments
looking
at
what
what
do
we
need
to
accomplish
in
this
department
and
what?
What
are
we?
What
are
the
risks
that
might
get
in
the
way
and
then
let's
develop
some
control
activities
to
help
us
mitigate
those
risks
as
much
as
possible,
and
then
we
have
to
monitor
those
controls
once
they're
in
place
and
continually
assess.
Are
they
working
and
and
of
course,
throughout
the
whole
thing?
Communication
and
information
are
are
crucial.
It
will
work
without
it.
AA
So
if
you
choose
to
take
this
step
and
adopt
this
framework
on
behalf
of
the
county,
there
will
be
some
implementation
steps.
It
will
take
time.
We
will
be
coming
back
to
you
with
plans
for
this.
It
would
some
more
detailed
information
for
you
and
for
all
employees
on
internal
control
in
this
framework
and
the
fact
that
we
really
rely
on
the
employees
and
management
to
implement
all
of
this.
AA
So,
in
summary,
the
recommendations
from
the
Audit
Committee
to
you
is
that
we
amend
the
resolution
creating
the
audit
committee
and
the
Charter
both
of
these
are
for
restructuring
the
the
audit
committee
and
for
providing
more
oversight
for
internal
audit
and
more
independence
and
then
adopting
on
behalf
of
Buncombe
County.
The
COSO
internal
control,
integrated
framework.
R
F
S
Mr.
chairman,
just
one
the
draft
resolution,
that's
in
the
agenda
packet
just
to
clarify.
We
would
ask
the
on
behalf
of
the
internal
auditor
and
the
Audit
Committee
that
include
that
the
changes
to
the
committee
structure
be
included
and
that
the
COSO
internal
control
integrated
framework
be
added
to
the
resolution
to
formalize
that
okay.
A
Yeah
well,
first,
let's
have
a
motion
on
the
resolution
granting
the
Audit
Committee
additional
responsibilities
and
altering
its
membership.
We
are
going
to
vote
on
several
other
pieces,
including
the
employment
of
an
additional
commissioner
and
the
Charter,
and
once
we
have
a
motion,
I
will
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
I
would
just
ask
for
if
there's
comments
then
just
speak
to
any
of
those
different
items
to
the
changes
to
the
Audit
Committee.
Q
A
F
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
of
board
I,
don't
have
no
degrees
hanging
on
the
wall,
so
don't
look
for
them,
but
there's
one
thing:
I:
do
that?
That's
common
sense!
That's
reason
you
need
people
on
these
boards
with
common
sense.
When
I
hear
the
word
auditor
I
get
concerned
because
it
concerns
about
money
and
controls,
but
money
primarily
and
we
handle
a
lot
of
year
in
Buncombe.
F
Where
is
it
at
then
you're,
looking
at
a
man
that
don't
want
to
brag
about
it,
but
I
got
throwed
out
of
a
commissioner
meeting
for
the
very
fact
that
I
said
figures
don't
lie,
but
Liars
figure
now
I
got
throwed
out
of
a
meeting
for
saying
that.
Would
you
sell
me
out,
mr.
chairman,
if
you
do
I'll
be
back
the
other
Chairman
doesn't
gonna
threaten
me
out
now,
I'm
saying
something
for
you
to
listen
to.
F
I
might
not
have
an
education
that
you
have,
but
you
better
listen
to
a
canary
in
the
coal
mine
because
he
gives
his
life
for
that
that
somebody
else
might
live
so
the
red
flags.
You
got
an
auditor
I'm
talking
about.
We
pay
thousands
of
dollars
for
and
this
auditor,
or
to
be
looking
at
the
internal
controls
and
everything
else,
an
overview
and
a
transmittal
letter
that
comes
to
you
once
a
year.
What
are
we
paying
thousands
of
dollars
for?
If
we
don't
have
auditors
worth
the
thousands
of
dollars
that
we're
paying
them?
F
They
ought
to
be
red
flagging
these
things.
Now
this
audit
committees
been
in
existence
for
a
long
time.
Has
it
been
working
properly?
I,
don't
know
it
must
not.
Now,
if
you're
going
to
do
this
audit
stuff,
that
your
structure
in
here,
if
you
don't
give
people
the
power
to
do
things
and
have
oversight
that
oversight
ain't
worth
nothing
if
you
don't
have
a
para
to
deliver
it.
If
you're
told
to
shut
up
and
get
back
in
your
room,
what
good
is
it?
F
This
is
a
powerful
committee
and
they
need
to
be
doing
a
powerful
job,
but
our
auditors,
that
we
pay
yearly
thousands
of
dollars,
for
they
ought
to
be
held
to
another
accountability
level
and
we
got
one
sitting
on
this
board
if
I
Ain't
mistaken
mr.
Yelton.
Now,
if
these
people
are
worth
this
kind
of
money,
they
ought
to
be
throwing
up
red
flags
at
the
end
of
the
year
on
June,
whatever
or
April.
A
P
A
comment
so
it
is,
it
is
a
very
common
and
best
business
practice
that
a
an
internal
auditor
and
an
audit
committee
reports
to
a
board.
You
have
appointed
boards
we're
an
elected
board.
They
they
report
to
a
deported
board.
You
do
not
have
someone
from
management
on
on
that
committee
because
it
can
create
a
conflict,
and
this
helps
to
avoid
that
and
it
is,
there
is
more
accountability
in
this.
A
S
A
AB
AB
Just
wanted
to
take
a
moment,
sort
of
specifically
endorse
this
framework
and
the
title
of
it's
a
great
title,
but
also
just
to
translate.
It
I
think
what
this
is
about
is
really
sending
a
very
strong,
clear
message
that
at
every
level
of
Buncombe
County
government
there's
a
strong
commitment
to
a
framework,
that's
about
assessing
risks
and
addressing
them
and
being
very
proactive
about
that
and
people
knowing
that
that
that
they're
encouraged
to
be
proactive
partners
in
that
process.
AB
So
I
look
forward
to
the
specific
recommendations
that
will
come
forward
about
how
we
can
implement
this
and
the
types
of
trainings
I
think
perhaps
starting
with
us,
or
at
least
including
us
in
the
early
wave.
That
will
happen
and
really
doing
everything
we
can
as
a
commission
to
embrace
and
endorse
and
help
implement
an
understanding
and
culture
of
this
from
top
to
bottom
in
the
county
and.
L
And
I
appreciate
it.
I
was
on
naughty
board
and
standing
up
here
and
changing
this
in
a
way
it
is
with.
Internal
auditor.
I
think,
is
a
great
great
way
to
bring
this
forward.
It's
a
new
day
in
Buncombe
County
people,
and
we
all
have
to
understand
that
miss
stone
county
manager
has
really
brought
something
forward
to
help
bring
everything
together.
That's
my
appreciation,
we'll
all
learn
as
we
go
alone
and
we
learn
every
day,
but
it
is
a
new
day,
so
I'll
be
for
this.
Thank
you.
Y'all.
P
Said
one
other
other
comment,
because
it's
been
mentioned
about
the
annual
annual
audit,
which
is
a
separate,
separate
tool
or
mechanism
what's
great
about
in
an
internal
audit
and
internal
audit
department,
in
particular
the
audit
committees
over
here,
an
internal
auditor
and
that
department
is
it's
every
day
every
hour
and
that's
why
you
have
that
that
department?
You
have
that
that
person,
and
so
it
will.
It
will
make
it
better
instead
of
waiting
annually
for
certain
systems
and
things
to
be
checked.
But
it'll
be
every
day
in
every
hour.
A
All
right
any
other
comments
for
good
all
right.
So
this
is
the
adoption
of
the
Kosovo
integrated
framework,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right
and
then
the
final
item
on
this
is
the
appointment
of
a
the
second
County
Commissioner
to
serve
on
the
Audit
Committee.
Is
there
a
motion?
Yes,.
A
Any
comments
or
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right,
Terry
I!
Thank
you
very
much
and
Michael.
Thank
you
very
much
for
walking
us
through
that
view
all
right.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
Early
Learning
Partnership
and
there's
going
to
be
several
folks
who
are
going
to
help
us
with
this
commissioners.
Belcher
and
frost
and
Rachel
Nygaard
are
going
to
be
presenting
this
item,
so
I
I'm,
not
sure
he's
going
first,
but
I'll
just
turn
it
over
to
the
three
of
you.
Q
Q
It
is
overwhelming
the
need
that's
out
there,
so
we
can
sit
and
be
paralyzed
by
the
needs
and
say
how
are
we
ever
gonna
be
able
to
do
that,
for
we
can
be
creative
and
one
of
the
things
I'm.
So
grateful
of
this
board
and
senior
leadership
is
the
creativity.
Every
single
Commissioner
on
our
board.
Pre-K
is
a
priority,
is
our
biggest
priority
because
we
know
said:
pre-k
is
the
best
divergent
for
jail.
So
after
listening
to
this
presentation
and
just
doing
rough
calculations,
I
think
the
amount
for
every
child
in
Buncombe
County.
Q
It
was
gonna,
be
something
like
forty
five
million
dollars
pretty
staggering,
but
thanks
to
creativity,
we
have
some
solutions.
Last
year,
Commissioner
Belcher
and
myself
Mandy
stone
entered
into
some
unusual
conversations
with
at
the
time
a
different
partnership.
At
the
time
Pam
Baldwin
was
the
chair
of
Nashville
City,
Schools
Reverend
grant
was
at
Hill
Street
and
they
came
up
with
a
great
proposal
for
12
spots
for
pre-k
and
you
might
say,
12
compared
to
what
we
need
is
insurmountable.
Q
But
as
commissioner
Belcher
talks
about
starfish,
you
say
one
starfish
that
one's
pretty
lucky
so
I'm
gonna,
let
Commissioner
Belcher
take
over,
but
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
This
time
next
year
there
will
be
12
children
in
pre-k
in
a
great
situation
and
I
look
forward
to
more
of
these
partnerships
throughout
the
county
because
we're
not
unless
we
get
creative
and
foster
these
partnerships,
we're
never
gonna
meet
our
goals.
Z
P
P
There
commissioners
sitting
up
here
that
that
when
you
were,
you
were
a
child.
Nobody,
nobody
ever
thought
you'd,
be
a
commissioner
right
and
we
get
the
opportunity
to
set
up
here
and
try
to
make
a
difference,
but
I'm
excited
about
it
and
we'll
turn
it
over
to
miss
to
let
her
give
the
details
on
it.
P
D
The
report
that
Commissioner
Frost
was
referring
to
a
minute
ago,
can
be
accessed
by
this
group
and
members
of
the
public
online
on
the
agenda
page
for
the
work
session
that
this
board
held
last
week
on
September
26th,
a
report
that
was
put
together
by
the
Asheville
bunk
on
preschool
Planning
collaborative
about
what
would
it
look
like
to
expand
access
to
high-quality
preschool
across
Buncombe
County
and
what
kind
of
benefits
that
can
create?
And
during
that
session,
chairman
Newman
remarked.
What
can
we
do?
D
That's
bite-sized
we're
all
in
it
for
this
long-term
strategic
priority
and
we
want
to
look
for
ways
that
we
can
create
change
as
we
go
toward
that
long
term
vision.
So
this
opportunity,
before
you
is
a
chance
to
do
that.
It's
the
form
of
a
budget
amendment
which
proposes
providing
funding
in
the
amount
of
up
to
sixty
three
thousand
four
hundred.
Seventy
eight
dollars
to
support
the
development
of
a
new
preschool
classroom
at
Christine
Avery
Learning
Center.
D
This
is
like
you
mentioned
a
partnership
with
hash
full
city
schools
and
with
a
faith
community
and
as
well
as
drawing
in
revenue
that
the
county
funding
can
leverage
to
support
NC
pre-k.
So
the
NC
pre-k
dollars,
matched
with
local
funding,
make
this
classroom
possibility
and
we
think
it
can
serve
as
a
incubator
model
that
might
be
able
to
be
replicated.
There's
some
really
neat
advantages
to
putting
a
classroom
like
this,
in
association
with
the
school
system
that
can
bring
in
technical
support
and
expertise
in
connection
to
the
school.
D
That's
right,
nearby,
Christine,
Avery
connection
to
the
PTO
Isaac
Dixon,
so
there's
some
kind
of
neat
and
cool
creative
pieces
that
will
come
out
of
it.
But
essentially
what
this
funding
will
do
is
allow
the
school
to
partner
with
that
Center
and
get
the
classroom
open
as
soon
as
possible.
They've
already
posted
the
job
listing
for
the
teacher
and
they're
excited
to
get
going.
A
F
Thank
You
mr.
chairman
members
board.
This
is
right
that
my
education
about
that,
but
we've
got
problems.
If
we
didn't
have
a
problem
with
that,
one
have
another
fix.
Would
my
concern?
Is
that
I
don't
see
anything
in
this
little
red
book
that
I
got
here
on
the
five-year
or
ten-year
sustainability
plan,
we're
flying
by
the
seat
of
her
pants
and
I?
Think
we
need
to
look
at
that
sustainability
of
what
you're
doing
here,
Jim
Hunt!
F
Well,
let
me
give
you
some
suggestions
when
in
Buncombe
County
school
it
takes
kids
in
the
school
system.
They
come
in
at
7
years
old,
and
most
of
these
kids
are
not
going
to
get
what
you
think
they're
gonna
get,
so
you
can
pre
school
them
all
you
want
to.
But
if
you
ain't
got
teachers
and
administration's
in
these
school
system,
it's
going
to
carry
it
out
and
further
their
education,
you're
going
to
start
them
and
then
they're
going
to
stop
them.
You
know
what
stifling
means:
it's
gonna,
choke
them
down.
F
So
now,
I
deal
with
this
on
a
daily
basis
for
30
years.
This
ain't,
no
new
thing
to
me,
Buncombe,
County
and
as
for
city,
is
doing
a
sloppy
job
when
it
comes
to
educating
our
kids
period.
Now,
if
we
don't
find
the
answer
to
fix
the
education
piece
on
what
we're
doing
right
now,
this
preschool
ain't
gonna
do
it.
So
let
me
give
you
some
suggestions.
If
we're
gonna
talk
about
partnerships,
let's
don't
talk
about
dude.
F
Let's
talk
about
TDA
Chamber
of
Commerce
room
tax,
let's
figure
out
where
to
get
all
these
multi
millions
of
dollars,
sustainable
money
that
we
can
sustain
this
program
that
we're
talking
about,
let's
figure
out
where
to
get
this
money.
If
these
kids
are
gonna
graduate
from
the
County
school
system,
sitting
school
system
go
in
the
workplace,
I
think
the
money
that
I'm
talking
about
to
come
from
these
other
places
somewhere
another
we
could
get
some
more
money
and
it
ain't
gonna
be
up
to
the
taxpayers
to
pay
it.
F
W
Commissioners,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
county
for
taking
this
step
and
moving
forward
as
a
champion
for
children
with
the
first
2,000
days
campaign.
We
know
that
initial
five
years
of
life
is
so
essential
to
how
our
young
people
enter
schools
with
their
ability
to
learn
their
ability
to
learning
groups,
their
ability
to
be
receptive
to
that
that
group
learning
environment
and
we've
seen
this
as
being
a
request
and
a
need
in
our
community
for
quite
some
time.
W
So
for
somebody
who
really
believes
in
prevention
and
deals
a
whole
lot
with
the
other
end
of
lack
of
prevention
in
trying
to
fix
folks
who
are
have
issues
and
and
are
broken
in
some
ways
to
see
the
commissioners
move
in
this
direction
is
is
very,
very
good
to
see
for
me
and
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
P
A
A
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
ordinance
approving
revisions
to
the
Buncombe
County
personnel,
ordinance
and
mic
through
and
Lisa
EB
will
present
the
changes
to
the
personnel
policy
that
we
will
be
voting
on
this
evening
and
they're
fairly
fairly
long.
So
so
they'll
walk
us
through
this
and
see.
If
there's
any
questions
and
before
we
take
up
the
the
revisions.
AC
As
you
said,
I'm
here
tonight
to
talk
about
changes
that
are
being
recommended
in
the
personnel
ordinance,
one
of
the
first
things
Mandi
did
when
she
became
county
manager,
was
instruct
me
to
begin
initial
classification
and
play
review,
pay
review,
which
I've
begun
it's
underway,
and
the
other
thing
was
to
review
our
personnel
ordinance
and
make
sure
that
it
was
up
to
date.
So
I
want
to
talk
through
these
changes.
AC
Now,
we've
been
very
handicapped
by
our
current
system,
which
is
basically
scanned
documents
into
a
system
so
trying
to
track
or
search
through
that
process
is
very
difficult,
and
so,
with
that
new
system,
it
will
cause
additional
changes
in
the
personnel
ordinance.
That
will
also
allow
us
to
be
much
more
responsive
to
request
around
personnel
records
as
well.
So
what
we're
looking
forward
to
that?
AC
So
the
this
happened
the
last
time
I
did
this
okay,
so
deja
vu
all
over
again.
So
there
are
three
lenses
that
I
wanted
to
look
at
the
personnel
ordinance
and
these
lenses
are
based
on
the
transparency,
accountability
and
equity
that
you
all,
as
County
commissioners
and
the
county
manager
said
that
you
wanted
to
use
as
guiding
principles
going
forward.
AC
AC
That's
out
there
in
public
that
everybody
knows
about
and
can
find
it's
amended
only
as
needed
and
with
word
of
Commission
approval,
so
the
Personnel
ordinance
is
meant
to
be
a
fairly
static
document
that
stays
stable.
So
essentially,
employees
know
the
rules
of
engagement
within
the
work
environment.
The
budget
ordinance
is
one
that
is
adopted
annually,
it's
fiscally
at
the
fiscal
year.
It's
a
legal
document
that
is
meant
to
oversee
estimated
revenues,
established
appropriations
and
levy
taxes
for
unit
of
government
for
the
coming
year.
AC
It
represents
the
fiscal
policy
of
the
board,
and
what
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
don't
use
one
as
a
backdoor
to
another,
because
that
can
cause
some
issues.
So,
for
example,
when
the
early
retirement
incentive
was
first
adopted,
it
came
into
the
personal
ordinance,
but
then
changes
were
amended
through
the
budget
ordinance,
and
this
can
is
not
the
way
in
which
these
two
ordinance
were
meant
to
be,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
going
forward
that
we
maintain
the
separate
purpose
of
each
of
those
ordinances.
AC
A
personnel
ordinance
is
really
just
this
roadmap,
as
I
said
for
employees,
it
covers
just
the
basics.
So
how
do
we
determine
position
and
classification
plan?
How
do
we
go
about
recruiting
and
selecting
employees?
What
are
the
conditions
of
employment?
How
do
we
deal
with
employee
issues
of
just
Neri
matters
in
separation
and
that's
what
the
personnel
ordinance
is
about,
so
I'm
gonna
get
into
some
of
the
changes.
These
are
the
highlights
of
the
changes
again.
If
you
have,
anyone
has
interested
the
full
detail
is
in
the
personnel
ordinance
and
the
red
line
copy.
AC
The
first
thing
we
did
was
just
clean
up
language:
around
limitations,
unemployment
of
relatives.
We
want
to
ensure
that
there's
no
conflict
of
interest
between
supervisors
and
employees
when
there's
some
kind
of
familiar
relationship
and
that
ensures
that
no
supervision
of
that
there's
no
supervision
of
a
relative.
Where
you
have
someone
who's
a
direct
report,
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
limited
indirect
supervision
of
employees
and
that
there
were
proper
protections
in
place
should
that
exist.
AC
The
other
thing
that
was
in
the
ordinance
that
we
took
out
or
we're
recommending
to
take
out
is
that
it
currently
puts
a
firewall
up
between
staff
and
the
Board
of
Commissioners
and
making
a
misdemeanor
for
the
Board
of
Commissioners
to
provide
any
directive
to
a
staff
and
we're
recommending
deleting
this
from
the
ordinance,
while
still
respecting
the
hierarchy
of
reporting.
So
you
know
we
want
commissioners
to
feel
that
they
can
come
and
talk
to
staff
and
that
they
can
get.
Questions
answered.
AC
We
have
also
in
that
same
vein
and
we're
creating
more
measures
to
ensure
that
employees
feel
free
to
speak
up
and
this
kind
of
speaks
to
what
mr.
Harris
was
speaking
about
earlier,
that
we
need
to
create
spaces
within
an
organization
so
that
employees
feel
safe
and
we're
doing
that
through
an
employee
protection
hotline.
AC
And
this
is
a
number
that's
answered
by
an
independent
third
party
and
it's
available
to
all
employees
as
well
as
the
public,
and
you
can
register
a
complaint
or
a
concern,
and
you
can
do
that
anonymously
and
then
those
anonymous
reports
are
directed
then
to
our
internal
auditor
Terry
Orange.
And
then
it
allows
her
again
within
that
safe
space
to
investigate
those
concerns
and
to
make
any
appropriate
changes
or
follow-up
action.
AC
That,
as
a
part
of
that,
it's
nice
to
have
the
employee
protection
line,
but
we
also
wanted
to
have
a
policy
in
place
that
tell
employees
not
only
are
you
protected
for
speaking
up
but
there'll
be
no
retaliation
and
so
we're
adopting
the
employee
protection
and
no
retaliation
policy
and
I
was
just
going
to
read
you
just
two
pieces
of
that.
The
reporting
responsibility,
the
employee
protection
policy
is
intended
to
encourage
and
enable
employees
and
board
members
to
raise
serious
concerns
internally,
so
that
Buncombe
County
can
address
and
correct
inappropriate
conduct
and
actions.
AC
So
that's
the
responsibility
of
every
employee
and
then
no
retaliation
to
deal
with
that.
It's
contrary
to
the
values
of
Buncombe
County,
for
anyone
to
read,
retaliate
against
any
board
member
employee
who,
in
good
faith
reports
an
ethics
violation
or
a
suspected
violation
of
law
or
policy
and
again
this
is
so
that
employees
have
that
safe
space
to
speak
up
and
I
appreciated.
Terry.
Helping
me
with
drafting
this
policy
with
the
new
ordinance,
hopefully
being
adopted,
will
also
be
rolling
on
a
campaign
just
again
so
employees
know
they
have
that
space.
AC
We
also
wanted
to
around
being
transparent,
accountable
and
equitable.
We
wanted
to
ensure
that
we
had
a
structured
way
to
recognize
employee
driven
innovation
and
around
efficiency
and
effectiveness,
we're
doing
that
by
limiting
putting
a
cap
of
a
thousand
dollars
on
our
ability
to
give
bonuses
or
incentives
to
employees
and
then
to
ensure
that
if
we
do
award
these
to
employees
for
work,
that
goes
above
and
beyond
their
current
job
description,
that
as
significant
contribution
that
we
report
this
back
to
the
board
within
sixty
days,
so
that
we
can
celebrate
that
as
a
community.
AC
If
we
have
employees
who
are
doing
great
things
and
we
rewarding
them
for
that
with
a
thousand
dollar
up
to
a
thousand
dollar
bonus,
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
aware
of
that
and
that
we
celebrate
that
in
public
we're
also
ensuring
that
we're
following
the
letter
of
the
law
within
the
ordinance
for
what,
how
we
define
salaries.
So
we
have
a
new
definition,
the
ordinance
that
file
is
consistent
with
North
Carolina
General
statute,
that
salary
includes
pay
benefits,
incentives,
incentives,
bonuses
and
any
other
types
of
deferred
compensation.
AC
So,
for
example,
if
we
award
somebody
$1,000,
then
that
would
be
part
of
their
annual
salary
or
part
of
their
salary.
Fine
annual
salary
with
in
the
ordinance
we
also
had
instituted
and
a
2015
budget
amendment
that
exempt
employees
on
July
1
of
each
year
would
be
given
40
hours
of
exempt
comp
time.
This
was
due
to
sunset
after
2019
and
we're
recommending
to
discontinue
this
practice
now,
I'm,
not
really
sure
why
it
was
started,
and
then
it's
going
to
stop
in
2019.
AC
But
at
this
point
we
feel
like
it
kind
of
confuses
the
classification
of
an
exempt
employee,
which
is
an
exempt
employee,
works
to
do
a
job
and
has
provided
a
salary,
they're,
not
compensated
by
an
hourly
rate,
and
so
we
feel
like
it's
better
to
go
ahead
and
take
this
out
of
the
ordinance.
At
this
time
the
early
retirement
incentives
were
adopted
to
the
personnel
and
budget
ordinances,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
very
beginning,
and
initially
these
plans
were
very
were
excellent.
They
were
cost-saving
measures.
AC
The
intention
of
them
was
to
go
ahead
and
have
employees
retire
and
then
be
able
to
freeze
those
positions
and
potentially
not
ever
fill
those
position
again.
By
distributing
the
work
in
a
different
way.
It
was
meant
to
potentially
bring
those
positions
back
with
lower
paid
salaried
employees
or
on
a
different
health
bennet.
AC
So
there
were
real
advantages
to
the
early
retirement
system
incentive
plan,
but
it's
gone
through
a
number
of
iterations
and
we
even
got
to
the
point
in
2016
that
we
had
to
amend
the
plan
so
that
we
could
also
we
found
that
we
had
so
many
employees
leaving.
We
have
actually
over
160
people
who
have
signed
up
for
the
this,
have
either
taken
or
signed
up
for
it,
and
that
we
were
realizing
that
we
were
in
some
ways
really
distributing
or
disturbing
our
ability
for
business
operations.
AC
If
they
had
gotten
the
early
retirement
center,
I
mean
they
got
it
early
in
order
to
stay
and
work
within
the
county
system,
so
very
important.
But,
as
I
said,
it's
resulted
in
unintended
consequences.
We
have
one
Department
permits
and
inspections
that
had
five
inspectors
retire
and
one
permit
employee
retire.
Always
in
a
two
year
span.
It's
very
hard
to
deal
with
that
much
of
subject
matter,
expertise,
walking
out
the
door.
So
we're
asking
to
go
ahead
and
sunset
this
program,
it's
no
longer
cost-effective.
AC
As
I
said,
we
have
over
a
hundred
and
sixty
people
that
have,
since
it
started
in
2014,
either
retired
or
a
plan
to
retire
and
buy
any
we're
and
recommending
ending
it
by
December
1st.
We're
just
doing
that
at
a
base.
Minimum
we'll
also
save
a
million
dollars
for
the
county.
At
this
point,
because
what's
happened,
is
we
can't
afford
to
not
fill
those
positions
because
we
have
so
many
people
who
are
vacating.
AC
The
approach
proposed
changes.
What
we're
trying.
What
we're
asking
you
all
is
that
those
employees
who
have
already
signed
up
for
the
early
retirement
and
centum
that
we
honor
those
contracts,
the
employees
who
have
28
years
with
Buncombe
County
in
28
years,
with
the
North
Carolina
Retirement
System,
on
or
before
December
1st
of
this
year.
AC
That
they'll
still
be
eligible
to
receive
the
incentive,
but
they
must
also
be
eligible
to
retire
before
January,
1
or
2020,
and
that
they
must,
though,
give
us
a
letter
of
their
intention
to
retire
before
December
1st,
with
the
date
of
retirement.
And
then
we
want
a
sunset
that,
after
December
1st
and
then
for
all
other
employees,
we
do
retain
the
retirement
benefit.
That's
outlined
in
the
personal
ordinance
under
article
7,
the
additional
employee
benefits
section
H
and
that
will
remain
in
effect.
AC
AC
P
AC
I
appreciate
your
concern
on
that
write
up.
What
I
have
up
here
are
the
I'm
planning
starting
tomorrow,
to
go
out
to
the
employees,
and
this
is
ready
to
roll
we'll.
Have
it
posted
if
this
is
adopted
tonight,
we'll
have
it
posted
on
County
Central
and
an
email
will
be
sent
out
to
all
employees
first
thing
tomorrow
morning,
we've
also
drafted
three
different
foreign
letters
that
will
be
sent
to
the
employees
who
are
affected
directly
affected
by
this.
That's
going
out.
So
we
have
a
form
letter
going
out
to
employees.
AC
Who've
signed
up
to
say:
don't
worry,
we're
gonna
honor
that
we
have
an
amount
to
people
that
are
meet
these
eligibility
requirements.
If
you're
interested
you
need
to
get
into
HR
and
talk
to
us
and
and
so
we're
doing,
and
then
the
general
email
out
to
all
employees
to
tell
them
that
they
need
to
go
over
the
personnel
ordinance
changes,
because
there
are
things
in
there
that
can
affect
them.
AC
T
AC
We
are
also
changing
the
waiting
period
for
new
employees
to
obtain
health
coverage
from
90
days
that
was
kind
of
a
holdover
from
when
we
first
adopted.
We
had
had
been
at
six
months
and
then
with
the
ACA.
They
said
you
could
do
up
to
90
days,
so
we
went
to
90
days,
but
I
did
a
search
with
other
counties
and
we
are
way
outside
the
norm.
AC
Most
counties
do
the
30
days
or
the
first
effect
of
the
first
day
of
the
month
following
the
first
30
days
of
waiting
period,
which
is
what
we're
doing
that
allows
us
to
get
it
in
sync
with
payroll.
By
doing
it
that
way,
we're
asking
for
this
to
be
effective
the
first
of
the
year,
because
there's
just
it's
kind
of
a
moving
cheat
machine
right
now
with
Blue
Cross,
Blue,
Shield
and
people
signed
up
and
it's
difficult
to
change
that
midstream.
AC
We're
also
asking
to
allow
us
to
employees
who
are
being
rehired
or
employees
who
are
transferring
from
within
the
North
Carolina
State
Retirement
System.
These
are
employees
that
come
with
knowledge
about
county
government
and
positions
within
County
government.
We
want
to
be
able
to
attract
and
hire
those
employees,
and
so
we're
asking
that
we
allow
them
to
use
their
time
in
the
governmental
system
for
the
basis
for
their
accrual
of
annual
leave.
Often
times
when
you
have
a
seasoned,
employee
who's
got
a
lot
of
experience
and
they're
coming
into
a
position.
AC
They
don't
want
to
start
back
at
a
two-year
annual
leave
time
period,
so
we
feel
like
this
would
be
good
for
our
recruitment
efforts.
We've
also
reinstituted
the
voluntary
shared
lead
program
for
employees.
These
are
some
is
the
lead
program
where
employees
are
able
to
donate
their
annual
leave
to
employees
who
are
suffering
from
suffering
from
a
catastrophic
medical
condition,
and
so
we
feel
like
this
was
something
that
we
took
off.
AC
There
was
reasons
at
the
time
that
we
took
it
off,
but
we
heard
from
employees
that
this
is
something
that
they
value
and
we
think
it's
important
for
that
to
be
a
part
of
the
ordinance
and
then
finally,
given
that
North
Carolina
recognizes
same-sex
marriages,
we
are
no
longer
endorsing.
The
domestic
partner
benefit
is
one
of
our
benefits
we
feel
like
that
was
an
equity
issue
when
we
first
introduced
it,
but
that
now
that
that's
no
longer
an
issue
that
we
don't
know,
we
don't
believe
that
that
policy
needs
to
be.
AC
In
effect,
we
want
a
grandfather
in
those
who
are
currently
signed
up
for
the
domestic
partner
benefits,
so
anyone
who's
already
in
the
program
will
be
allowed
to
continue
with
that
program,
but
we're
recommending
continuing
discontinuing
that
after
this.
So
that's
a
lot
of
information.
You
know
that
you
were
given
this
information
ahead
of
time.
AC
I
know
it's
a
lot
to
absorb,
but
really,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
really
trying
to
balance
this
spot
between
our
ability
to
maintain
a
strong
professional
workforce
and
the
public
and
I
count
being
accountable
to
the
public
and
the
taxpayer
in
our
organization
and
it's
a
balance,
and
so
it
does
require
some
tweaking
over
time.
As
we
look
at
the
needs,
as
Commissioner
Beltzer
was
able
to
say
it's
important,
we
communicate
this
to
our
employees,
and
so
these
are
the
drop-in
sessions
that
I'll
be
doing
over
the
next.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
CB
any
questions
from
the
board
at
this
time.
We
will
take
public
comment
on
the
proposed
personnel
changes,
but
are
there
any
questions
at
this
time
all
right,
seeing
none
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
for
public
comment?
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
comment
on
the
proposed
revisions
to
the
Buncombe
County
personnel
ordinance
all
right,
seeing
none
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board
for
questions,
discussion
or
a
motion.
Q
I'd
like
to
one
comment,
and
also
make
a
motion
to
approve
these
changes,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
you,
for
this
was
a
lot
of
work
in
a
very
short
time
and
it's
thorough
and
to
me
two
things:
one,
the
transparency
it
will
afford
the
public
and
who
we
work
for
and
also
the
protections
it
will
give
to
employees.
Thank
you.
I
also.
P
Want
to
make
a
comment
on.
There
is
five
there's
five
pages
in
in
this
report.
It
reports
168
pages
so,
but
there
are
five
pages
that
detail.
The
changes
for
the
team,
members
and
I
think
it's
very
well
done,
and
the
the
detail
is
very
clear
in
there
I
think
so
and
if
there's,
if
I'm
sure
that
if
anyone
saw
something
there
and
they
have
additional
questions,
no
but
they'll
just
be
able
to
contact.
You
know
and
and
get
clarity
on
any
of
those
I'd.
L
L
Thank
you,
Miss
Amy,
Thank
You
mr.
stone
for
putting
the
team
together
thank
the
staff,
all
the
staff
at
Buncombe
County
and
our
chefs
that
come
and
protect
us
here
for
what
you
do.
That's
that's
the
main
thing
for
us.
So,
as
I
said
a
little
while
ago,
this
is
a
different
day
and
it's
not
gonna
be
easy
for
a
little
while
we're
gonna
get
there.
So
thank
you
again.
A
Just
one
question,
and,
and
it's
you
know,
the
staff
have
briefed
us
on
this.
These
policy
changes
are
very
detailed
and
extensive,
so
we've
been
sort
of
walking
through
this
and
in
understanding
the
the
suggestions
informally
in
preparation
for
the
public
hearing
tonight
and
I.
Think
I
also
want
to
just
echo
my
appreciation
for
bringing
forward
these
revisions.
I
think
they're
very
well
thought
out
and
and
will
be
really
beneficial
for
the
for
the
organization.
A
If
you
want
to
know
what
public
taxpayer
paid
employees
make,
here's
that
information
so
I
know
I'm
just
kind
of
bringing
that
up.
I
mentioned
it
to
the
county
manager
when
we
were
discussing
it
in
a
meeting,
so
I
don't
want
to
put
people
on
the
spot,
but
that
was
the
only
other
idea.
I
had
that
I
thought
might
kind
of
also
accentuate
some
of
the
some
of
the
direction
I'm
trying
to
go
in
on
this
circuit.
Thank.
AD
AD
R
I
would
like
to
to
thank
you
for
the
work
that
you
have
done
and
also
seeing
being
a
new
commissioner.
I
was
really
surprised.
It's
some
ordinances
that
we
had
I
couldn't
believe
what
I
was
reading
on
some
of
them
and
how
outdated
they
were,
but
I'm
glad
to
see
us
make
the
needed
changes,
and
these
changes
are
gonna,
be
fair
to
all
the
employees
and
everybody
will
be
playing
high,
the
same
rules
so
to
speak,
going
forward.
Thank
you.
S
I
was
just
going
to
point
out
that
just
for
clarity,
I
mean
the
last
time
that
the
personnel
ordinance
had
a
major
revision
was
in
2012.
So,
as
Lisa
pointed
out,
there's
been
a
few
changes
over
time
through
the
budget
ordinance
in
other
sectors,
mission
creep
or
whatever
you
might
want
to
call
it.
So
this
ordinance,
which
is
attached
that
we're
proposing
that
the
this
board
approved,
is
an
entire
replacement
and
revision
and
and
wipes
out
anything
that's
not
in
conflict
or
not
in
concert.
Therewith
I,
just.
AB
Want
to
chime
in
and
appreciate,
Missy,
be
your
initial
framing
of
this
around
really
disentangling
those
two
ordinances
and
us
understanding
that
very
clear
guide
stars
that
each
needs
to
function
that
each
needs
to
play
and
we'll
be
supporting
this
with
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
for
reasons
that
colleagues
have
already
stated
so
I
won't
be
redundant
about.
But
thank
you
for
the
hard
work
and
the
I
think
creative
and
rigorous
thinking
that's
gone
into
this,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
great
that
this
series
of
conversations
is
happening
on
a
departmental
level.
AB
Any
change
within
an
organization
can
bring
questions
and
anxieties
and
just
also
want
to
take
an
opportunity
for
us
to
communicate
to
employees
from
Buncombe
County
that
we
hope
there
can
be
ongoing
dialogue
and
just
recognize
that,
even
though
we
think
these
are
very
positive
changes
that
they
are
changed
and
that
there
will
be
a
process
of
adjustment
through
that.
But
but
it
seems
like
you
all,
have
anticipated
that
well
and
have
a
lot
in
place
to
communicate
around
that
and
support
employees
during
the
transition.
I
just
wanted
to.
Q
AC
Y
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
I
really
urge
everyone
listening
Facebook,
whatever
that
they
need
to
really
look
at
this,
because
the
changes
are
all
positive
and
since
we've
been
working
on
this
of
meeting
summer
than
County
people
that
work
here,
the
smiles
that's
on
their
faces
now
and
people
not
worry
as
much
as
we've
got
going
on
all
over
the
world
and
in
the
United
States.
We
don't
need
that
here
in
the
county
and
I
think
this
is
gonna,
be
very
big.
A
F
A
B
A
Y
L
L
A
I've
got
two
announcements
on
October
10th
next
Tuesday
at
2:30
p.m.
the
Buncombe
County
Commission
will
hold
a
workshop.
On
the
first
floor,
a
conference
room
at
200
had
200
12:30,
not
2:30,
I'm.
Sorry,
thank
you.
12:30
12:30,
on
Tuesday
October
10th,
the
County
Commission
will
hold
a
workshop
in
the
first
floor
conference
room
at
200,
College
Street.
We
will
be
focusing
on
a
presentation
from
Sheriff
Dan
Duncan
about
the
Buncombe
County
Detention
Facility
and
its
operations
and
future
policy
considerations.
So
we
look
forward
to
that
and
encourage
anyone
interested
to
attend
as
a
workshop.
A
We
will
not
be
taking
any
votes
at
that
meeting,
but
I
expect
it
to
be
highly
informative.
On
Tuesday
October
17th
at
5
p.m.
we
will
hold
the
next
regular
meeting
of
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
in
room
room
326
here
at
200
College
Street
in
downtown
Asheville.
There
is
no
closed
session
needed
tonight.
I'll
entertain
a
motion
to
adjourn.