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This is the Board of Commissioners' Regular Meeting (November 21, 2017)
A
A
As
our
community
and
our
country
look
forward
to
celebrating
the
Thanksgiving
holiday,
let
us
have
a
moment
of
silence
before
we
begin
this
meeting
this
evening
to
reflect
on
the
many
things
that
we
have
to
be
thankful
for.
We
live
in
one
of
the
most
beautiful
places
in
the
in
the
world.
We
live
in
a
free
nation
where
differences
of
ideas
are
resolved
through
democratic
processes
rather
than
through
violence.
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A
A
In
accordance
with
the
code
of
ethics
adopted
by
the
board,
all
County
Commissioners
have
a
duty
to
obey
all
applicable
laws
regarding
official
actions,
to
uphold
the
integrity
and
independence
of
the
office
and
to
avoid
impropriety
in
the
exercise
of
official
duties
to
faithfully
perform
the
duties
of
the
office
and
to
conduct
the
affairs
of
the
governing
board
in
an
open
and
public
manner.
Is
there
any
item
on
the
agenda,
the
outcome
of
which
will
have
a
direct,
substantial
and
readily
identifiable
financial
impact
for
any
board?
Member
also.
A
Does
any
board
member
have
a
financial
interest
in
any
public
contract
coming
before
the
board
today,
there
being
none
all
board,
members
have
a
duty
and
obligation
to
vote
on
any
matters
that
are
voted
on
by
the
board
this
evening.
It's
now
time
for
public
comment.
Let
me
just
review
our
public
comment
procedures.
The
time
limit
for
individual
comment
to
the
board
is
three
minutes.
If
your
time
expires,
you
can
leave
any
question
along
with
your
name
address
and
phone
number
with
the
county
manager
board.
A
Members
are
not
expected
to
comment
on
any
matters
during
public
comment.
This
is
your
time
to
speak
to
us
and
the
board
reserves
the
right
to
deny
public
address
on
any
subject.
That's
been
previously
presented
to
the
board
during
the
same
meeting
and
I
apologize.
I
did
not
mention
when
I
reviewed
the
agenda
earlier.
We
will
take
public
comment
this
evening
on
the
medic
emergency
ambulance
franchise
and
the
resolution
authorizing
execution
of
a
Greenway
easement
to
the
city
of
Asheville.
A
So,
if
you're
interested
in
either
of
those
topics,
I'd
suggest
you
hold
your
comments
until
those
items
come
up,
but
if
there
any,
if
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
address
the
board
on
any
other
topics,
now
is
your
opportunity,
and
please
share
your
name
and
where
you
live.
When
you
come
forward,
anyone
would
like.
Is
there
anyone
who'd
like
to
come
in?
Yes
ma'am?
You
can
start.
A
B
I
have
just
a
moment
before
we
start
the
lighter
okay,
just
because
I
have
a
whole
lot
to
say.
Mr.
Belcher
warned
me
of
three
minutes
and
unfortunately
that's
not
enough.
I
just
have
a
couple
handouts
for
you
guys
to
take
away
with
you
today,
maybe
to
help
show
you
what
I'm
trying
to
do,
but
my
name
is
Monica
Christ
from
Candler
I've
been
working
very
hard
to
launch
a
non-profit.
B
It
seems
to
have
affected
not
only
just
my
community,
but
communities
across
the
United
States
personally,
I've
been
impacted
not
just
by
friends
and
family,
but
myself
I
stand
before
you
addict
in
recovery,
who
is
firmly
in
control
of
her
world.
Unfortunately,
I
won't
ever
be
sober
because
I
do
get
my
medicine,
which
allows
me
to
live
my
day-to-day
life,
but
I
had
a
great
support
structure.
B
Not
everyone,
unfortunately,
has
the
same
kind
of
family
support
that
I
got
I've
worked
one-on-one
with
a
lot
of
addicts
and
their
families
and
have
personally
seen
how
much
it
affects
people
just
the
destruction
it
causes.
I've
heard
a
lot
on
the
news
about
the
epidemic
about
everything
is
done
wrong
about
just
everything.
Bad
and
I.
Don't
hear
very
many
solutions
as
far
as
what
we're
gonna
do
to
fix
it,
I've
been
on
the
streets
in
Candler
I
go
out
just
just
like
this
believe
it
or
not.
B
In
my
hills,
picking
up
trash
on
a
very
regular
basis.
I've
talked
to
people
and
even
though
there's
such
a
huge
difference
in
age
in
being
in
the
Bible
about
anything
you
can
think
of.
There
is
such
a
diversity
in
the
community.
However,
everyone
does
agree
that
this
is
a
problem,
but
not
only
is
it
a
problem,
but
in
Candler
specifically
there's
nothing
for
our
youth
to
do.
There
is
nothing
to
distract
them
from
the
drugs
from
anything,
because
it's
such
a
rural
area,
we
don't
have
the
resources
to
get
out.
B
So
I
want
to
utilize
areas
in
Candler
to
bring
resources
to
the
youth
so
that,
hopefully
we
can
rise
above
the
drug
statistic
that
we've
become,
as
I
said:
I've
not
really
heard
anything.
So,
for
the
last
eight
months
I've
been
putting
my
pumps,
the
pavement
and
I've
been
going
out
finding
out
what
our
youth
want.
What's
gonna
interest
them,
what's
going
to
keep
them
from
going
out
and
becoming
that
statistic,
driving
theatres,
paintball
fields,
airsoft
things
of
that
nature
would
be
so
great.
I
understand
that
budget
is
everything.
B
Unfortunately,
the
world
revolves
around
money,
so,
along
with
it,
I
also
wanted
to
propose
bringing
in
a
system
of
barter.
When
you
don't
have
money,
you
have
to
work
with
what
you
have
and
the
question
I
posed
to
people
is:
okay,
I
have
a
drive-in
theater,
and
you
want
to
see
my
movement.
Maybe
you
want
to
go
on
a
date.
Maybe
you
want
to
take
your
family,
but
we
don't
have
cash.
We
don't
have
credit
cards.
B
How
were
you
gonna
pay,
and
that's
the
moment
when
I
see
that
lighting
people
and
they've
realized
that
they
have
something
to
offer
something
that
they
can
give
back,
whether
it
is
a
trade,
a
construction
electrician
or
if
it's
just
time,
because
it
doesn't
take
anything
to
go
down
to
your
local
store
and
pick
up
a
bag
of
trash.
I've
spoken
to
a
lot
of
small
businesses
around
Candler
who
support
me
and
would
support
that
kind
of
system,
because
it
does
bring
in
the
volunteerism
that
the
sustainability
plan
helps
outline
which
grants
are
another
one.
B
B
C
B
A
A
Second,
there
is
a
motion
and
a
second
any
comments.
All
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
aye
all
opposed
all
right.
Okay,
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
inka
hi
and
Owen
hi
FFA,
chapter
report
and
I
think
Kristi
cheek
with
Buncombe
County
Schools
is
going
to
introduce
the
students
and
get
this
started.
So
thank
you
for
being
here.
D
Good
evening,
chairman
Newman
commissioners
and
guests,
it
is
that
time
of
year,
certainly
that
we're
always
thankful
for
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
number
one.
We
have
a
lot
to
be
thankful
for
and
I'm
gonna
say
that
some
of
that
is
sitting
right
out
there.
I
want
to
thank
you
all
as
a
board
of
commissioners,
certainly
for
your
support
of
Education
Career
and
Technical
Education
as
a
whole
and
on
one
specific
note
help
with
the
barn
at
Owen
high
school.
That
was
certainly
a
gift.
D
Last
month,
I
had
the
great
pleasure
of
traveling
to
Indianapolis,
with
these
students
for
FFA,
and
your
heart
would
beam
with
joy.
When
you
go
and
see
what
tremendous
skills
these
students
bring,
I
can't
tell
you
I
just
think
that
they're
marvelous,
you
know
my
passion
for
Career
and
Technical
Education,
but
what
I
see
too
is
when
our
employers,
within
our
community
say
we
need
people
that
can
communicate
with
each
other.
We
need
them
to
work
together
as
a
team.
We
need
them
to
bring
these
skills
with
them.
D
I
can
tell
you
these
students
can
do
all
that
and
more
so
tonight.
This
is
not
nothing
about
us
as
adults.
This
is
about
them
as
students
bringing
to
you
FFA,
and
we
heard
it.
They
need
to
come
out
of
Sal's
ploughs
and
cows,
two
drones,
clones
and
technology
as
we're
all
evolving
and
getting
into
an
age
where
number
one
students
are
amazing
at
what
they
do
and
they
are
using
both
academic
and
technical
skills,
and
it
we
know
that
a
well-educated
workforce
will
reap
for
us
economic
prosperity
in
the
future.
D
E
My
name
is
Evelyn
and
guys
were
the
AG
mechanics
team
from
Inc
high
school.
We
went
and
competed
at
regional
FFA
competition
and
as
a
team,
we
we
placed
first,
we
were
first
second
third
and
fifth
in
the
Western
North
Carolina
region.
We
went
and
competed
at
the
North
Carolina
State
FFA,
AG,
mechanics
competition
and
as
a
team
we
placed
first
there
as
well.
We
were
third,
fourth,
fifth
and
eighth
individually
in
the
state
of
North
Carolina
and
we
went
and
qualified
for
the
national
convention.
E
G
After
we
went
to
regionals
and
one
that
we
had
practice
for
state,
we
practiced
two
practices
every
week
for
three
months
and
we
put
all
of
our
skills
to
use
in
the
competition
where
we
had
to
do
a
twenty-five
question.
Math
test
a
50
question,
knowledge
test,
welding
activity
and
carpentry
activity
to
see
who's
the
best
in
the
state
and
when
we
get
three
third,
fourth,
fifth
and
eight,
and
we
ended
up
winning
that
and
going
on
in
the
National
Convention.
H
I
My
name
is
Eli
Tipton
and
at
the
National
Convention
me
and
my
team.
We
we
put.
We
had
a
team
event
where
we
had
to
do
irrigation
and
plumbing
and
then
as
well
as
five
individual
advance,
including
Natural
Resources,
structural
systems,
wiring
systems,
small
engines
and
machinery
and
yeah.
And
then
we
we
all
develop
these
skills
that
we'll
use
for
the
rest
of
our
lives.
E
So
just
close
it
up
like
he
said
these
are
things
that
we're
gonna
be
able
to
use
for
the
rest
of
our
lives,
and
we
want
to
give
a
special
thanks
to
the
Buncombe
County
CTD
department,
our
advisors
and
administrators,
for
everything
that
they've
done
for
us.
They've
helped
us
with
not
only
skills
for
agriculture,
but
also
for
life.
J
Hello,
my
name
is
Kevin
Franklin
I'm,
the
AG
teacher
in
high
school
and
their
advisor.
It's
a
great
pleasure
to
work
with
these
kids
and
I
won't
say
thank
you
to
all
of
you
to
echo
what
mr.
cheek
said
for
your
support
of
Education
and
it's
a
career
and
technical
education.
That's
it's
unbelievable.
What
you
do
for
us
just
to
put
it
all
in
perspective,
what
they
kind
of
done:
there's
20,000
FFA
members
in
North
Carolina,
so
these
four
and
then
Rachel.
J
She
was
number
one
in
her
event
out
of
20,000
FFA
members
and
my
guys
were,
of
course,
number
one
out
of
twenty
thousand
and
then
national
there
are
600
there.
650
thousand
FFA
members
in
the
nation.
There
were
66,000
at
the
National
Convention,
and
so
it's
just
a
great
opportunity
that
these
guys
got
to
participate
and
compete
against
that
number
of
people
in
the
nation
and,
of
course,
just
from
the
low
Buncombe,
County
and
inka
high
school.
You
know
they
rank
so
well.
K
Would
like
to
say
thank
you
so
much.
This
team
they're
an
outstanding
group
of
young
men,
great
advisors,
I,
am
the
very
proud
principal
think
of
high
school.
I
got
the
opportunity
to
travel
with
them
to
Indianapolis
and
it
was
such
a
wonderful
event.
I
learned
so
much
about
them,
and
myself
and
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
all
of
you
for
supporting
education
and
particularly
during
this
Thanksgiving
holiday.
L
Hello,
my
name
is
Rachel.
Beaver
I
was
able
to
compete
at
the
employability
skills,
also
known
as
job
interview,
and
this
was
brand
new
to
me.
I
had
never
been
through
an
interview
before
and
as
a
little
16
year
old.
That
was
kind
of
scary,
but
I
also
knew.
That
was
something
that
I
was
not
gonna
get
away
from
later
in
life,
no
matter,
if
you're
going
for
scholarships
or
to
college
or
even
just
a
simple
job,
you're
gonna
have
interviews,
and
so
I
knew
that
I
would
have
to
get
over.
L
My
little
fear
and
I
would
have
to
start
talking
to
people,
and
so
I
decided
to
compete
for
regionals
and
somehow
I
managed
to
get
first
I'll
go
to
States
and
I
managed
to
get
first
there
and
I
was
like
this
is
really
cool.
I
got
to
Nationals
and
I
was
surrounded
by
these
amazing
supportive
people
that
were
all
in
the
same
position.
I
was,
they
were
excited
to
be
there.
L
They
had
gone
through
the
same
process
and
the
same
trainings
that
I
did,
and
it
was
amazing
to
get
to
meet
these
new
people
and
kind
of
make
these
new
friendships.
I
have
friends
from
all
across
the
nation
now
which
I
never
thought
I
would
say,
but
I
also
have
learned
a
lot
about
myself
and
where
I
have
strong
points,
but
also
where
I
have
some
weaknesses
and
in
my
interview,
skills
and
I
can
tell
you.
L
There
has
been
a
very
sizeable
difference
from
my
very
first
interview
in
March
to
my
last
interview
this
past
October,
and
these
are
skills
that
are
going
to
you
know,
create
my
career
they're
gonna
create
my
future
and
I
couldn't
have
done
it
without
the
amazing
support
of
my
advisor
this.height.
She
has
been
by
my
side
through
this
whole
thing.
You
know
keeping
me
calm
when
I
was,
you
know
about
to
lose
it,
but
these
are
just.
These
are
experiences
that
have
changed.
Who
I
am
and
will
help
me
build
my
career
later
on.
M
They
learn
a
ton
in
classes
that
involve
leadership,
public
speaking
organization
skills,
parliamentary
procedure,
which
is
very
important
in
events
like
this.
So
thank
you
all.
Thank
you
for
your
support,
especially
at
Owen
with
our
barn.
I
teach
animal
science
there
and
without
that
barn
the
students
would
not
experience
near
as
much
hands-on
activities
as
they
do.
So.
Thank
you
all
for
your
support.
M
D
So
again,
just
as
a
note
of
thanks,
if
you
can
get
a
great
picture,
because
these
are
awesome,
awesome,
students
and
I
just
appreciate
them
so
they're
there.
It's
just
an
infectious
and
contagious
spirit.
If
you
ever
get
asked
to
volunteer,
please
go
volunteer
because
you
all
helped
them.
You
are
kind
of
the
mentors
that
help
us
in
the
outside,
where
we
really
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
so
much.
A
O
O
The
federal
government
outlines
those
policies
and
those
procedures
and
has
the
funding
that
they
give
to
the
states.
It's
been
passed
it
on
to
the
counties
at
any
given
time,
we're
monitored
by
the
state
and
the
federal
government
and
currently
Bekim
county
is
a
volunteer
of
one
of
ten
counties.
You
be
voluntarily
overseen
by
the
federal
government
for
part
of
the
Child
and
Family
Services
review.
O
We
volunteered
for
that
when
Mandi
Stein
was
the
Health
and
Human
Services
writer,
because
we
believe
that
it's
important
to
constantly
be
looking
at
your
policy
and
your
practice
and
doing
everything
you
can
to
improve
that
the
state
also
started
doing
something
called
process
monitoring,
site
visits
and
that's
when
the
division,
the
state
comes
on-site
and
we've
used
our
case
records.
Our
data
talks
with
their
staff
and
we've
had
three
of
those
sought
visits
in
the
last
year
and
a
half.
O
O
A
closer
look
at
the
county,
also
developed
a
quality
assurance
unit
or
team
that
is
separate
from
social
work
and
that's
important,
because
there's
a
firewall
between
social
work
division
and
the
quality
assurance
division,
so
that
they're
also
reviewing
our
cases
and
their
policy
in
their
practice.
Using
the
exact
same
instruments
that
the
federal
government
and
their
state
partners
use.
So
we're
able
to
do
that
internally.
Get
that
data.
Look
at
that
data
and
trends
and
just
know
where
we
need
to
you,
focus
their
efforts
and
training
and
further
education
for
our
staff.
O
So
I'm
gonna
quickly
as
quickly
as
I
can
go
over
an
overview
of
what
makes
up
child
welfare
in
north
I'm.
Gonna
start
by
talking
about
intake
intake.
Is
that
point
of
entry
for
all
of
the
information
that
comes
into
the
child
welfare
system
and
in
North
Carolina?
The
general
statute
says
that
every
person
is
a
mandated
reporter
to
report
suspected
child
abuse
or
neglect
to
their
local
DSS.
So
if
you
have
any
cause
to
suspect
in
North,
Carolina
you're
required
to
report
that
to
your
local
agency.
O
When
we
receive
that
report
with
the
allegations,
we
have
to
look
at
whether
or
not
those
allegations
meet
the
statutory
definitions
of
abuse,
neglect
or
dependency,
and
that's
a
two
level
decision
me
and
the
social
worker
takes
the
information
and
then
that
staff
with
a
supervisor
who's.
Looking
at
that
legislative,
statutory
definition
to
determine
whether
or
not
we
have
enough
information
to
accept
that
report
or
not.
When
we
get
a
report
from
a
reporter,
we
ask
them.
Do
you
want
to
know
the
outcome
of
your
report?
And
this
is
unusual
and
that's?
O
Child
welfare
is
very,
very
confidential,
but
a
reporter
can
receive
notification
as
to
whether
or
not
the
report
they
made
was
accepted
for
investigation
and
at
the
conclusion
of
the
investigation
or
assessment.
They
get
a
letter
that
lets
them,
know
the
resolution
or
the
outcome
of
that
case,
not
confidential
information,
but
the
resolution
of
the
case
if
the
case
is
accepted
for
investigation
assessment,
its
assigned
to
one
of
our
Child
Protective,
Services
investigators,
Assessors
and
there's
two
tracks
for
that.
O
There's
the
forensic
track
and
then
there's
the
assessment
track
and
the
difference
in
those
two
tracks
are
the
forensic
track
is
for
those
abuse
cases.
Those
are
your
shaken
baby,
sex
abuse,
broken
bone
type
cases
very
severe
domestic
violence
involving
weapons
would
fall
into
that
category
and
then
the
neglect
track
or
the
neglect
allegations
go
into
a
family
assessment
track.
O
We're
required
to
develop,
what's
called
a
safety
plan,
so
we're
out
there
we're
investigating
an
initiation
and
looking
at
the
family
talking
to
the
children
talking
to
the
parents,
and
we
have
to
determine
right
then
at
that
initiation
is
the
child
safe.
Can
the
child
be
safe
with
a
plan
or
is
the
child
unsafe,
and
that
plan
is
developed
on
the
spot
with
the
family
and
it
can
change
over
the
course
of
the
investigation,
as
we
gather
more
information
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
that
means.
O
So
safe
means
that
when
we're
there
and
we're
investigating
and
we're
gathering
information,
we're
not
finding
information
that
leads
us
to
believe
that
there's
a
problem
with
the
safety
of
that
child
and
at
home
at
that
time.
If
we
find
information
that
leads
us
to
believe
the
child
is
unsafe
in
that
home,
we
work
with
the
family
to
talk
about
what
could
we
put
in
place
so
that
the
child
could
remain
in
the
home
safe
with
a
plan?
O
But
there
are
situations
where
we
decided
the
family
and
has
a
situation
going
on
where
the
child
is
unsafe
and
cannot
remain
in
that
home
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
further
about
what
that
looks
like
at
the
conclusion
of
that
assessment
or
investigation.
We
have
to
make
a
decision,
and
again
this
is
a
two-level
decision
between
the
worker
and
the
supervisor
as
to
whether
or
not
there's
enough
information
gathered.
That
leads
us
to
believe
that
the
family
needs
ongoing,
involuntary
services.
O
So
that's
when
we
substantiate
the
case
or
found
the
case
in
need
of
services.
If
we
decide
that
the
family
needs
ongoing,
involuntary
services,
we
transfer
the
case
to
our
family
and
home
section,
and
our
family
in
home,
section
is
charged
with
working
with
that
family
to
alleviate
the
risk
or
the
harm
or
the
safety
issues
that
were
identified
during
the
investigation
and
to
work
with
the
family
to
make
sure
that
we
could
services
in
place
that
help
that
family
to
be
healthy
and
the
child
to
be
safe.
O
In
that
whom
we
try
to
do
that
within
six
months
of
engagement
with
their
family
and
the
enhancement
services
cased.
And
if
we
cannot
be
successful
and
keeping
that
child
safe
in
that
home
either,
because
the
parents
are
unwilling
or
unable.
We
might
in
fact
take
the
case
to
court
the
juvenile
petition
without
taking
custody
of
the
child
and
asking
the
court
to
become
involved
in
order
the
parents
to
engage
in
services
or
we
may
have
to
take
custody.
O
At
that
point,
the
family
is
involved
with
creating
the
safety
goals
for
themselves
and
the
safety
plans,
so
that
we
are
engaging
them
all
along
the
way
it's
their
family.
We
want
them
to
be
engaged
in
developing
of
that
plan.
There
are
occasions
where
I
mentioned
earlier
that
we
determined
the
child
is
unsafe,
and
that
can
happen
during
the
investigation.
That
can
happen
during
the
family
in-home
case
and
at
the
point
that
the
child
is
determined
and
safe,
and
we
can't
come
up
with
another
arrangement
that
keeps
the
child
safe.
O
Then
we
do
have
to
take
custody
of
the
child,
and
that
is
the
legal
term
of
when
the
child
comes
into
the
legal
custody
of
the
Department
of
Social
Services.
In
this
case,
Beckham
County
Health
and
Human
Services
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
foster
care
and
adoption
as
I
go
through
the
PowerPoint
I
want
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
our
current
census
or
our
current
population
of
foster
children
in
Bankim
County.
As
of
today,
we
had
347
children
in
care
and
Beckham
County.
O
That
is
a
significantly
higher
number
than
we
have
had
in
the
past
and
I'll
talk
about
some
reasons
why,
in
a
minute-
and
we
have
24
children
that
are
in
there
ages,
18
to
21
foster
care
that
happened
in
January.
When
the
Legislature
passed
a
new
law
that
says
we
can
expand,
foster
care
to
include
youth
aging
out
of
care
from
18
to
21.
It's
a
great
thing,
it's
a
great
option
for
us
and
we
have
24
those
G's
that
are
receiving
foster
care
services
through
our
agency
at
this
tone.
O
I
want
to
also
point
out
in
this
chart
that
our
two
largest
numbers
of
population
of
children
in
foster
care
right
now
are
the
ages
of
0
to
2
and
the
ages
of
6
2:12,
and
that's
very
concerning
to
us.
What
we
also
know
is
that,
over
the
past
two
years
of
the
children
entering
foster
care,
seventy
percent
of
those
children
entered
foster
care
because
one
or
both
parents
had
a
substance,
abuse
issue.
O
So
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
phenomenon
that's
happening,
particularly
with
that
zero
to
T
population,
is
newborns
being
born
into
the
hospital
and
being
born
dependent
on
substances
and
testing
positive
for
substances
and
their
mom's
testing
positive
for
substances
and
as
trying
to
work
to
figure
out
how
in
the
world
are.
We
gonna
address
this,
because
what
we
were
seeing
happening,
we
would
respond
to
the
hospital.
The
child
would
come
into
foster
care
and
then
that
mom
would
disappear.
O
They
were
losing
all
contact
with
their
children
and
I.
Tell
this
story,
often
where
I'm
in
court
and
Commissioner
frost
was
in
court
with
me
and
a
mom
shows
up
and
is
asking
for
visits
with
her
baby
that
she
hasn't
seen
in
nine
months
and
is
crying
and
the
judge
is
saying
I'm.
Sorry
we've
had
to
move
on,
and
that
was
just
something
that
was
unacceptable
to
us.
So
we
got
together
as
a
community
and
started
talking
about
what
could
we
do
differently?
O
O
We
can
help
you,
the
parents
get
assessments
and
those
parent
mentors
actually
take
them
to
the
first
four
meetings
that
they
go
to
and
that's
all
about
engagement,
and
we
noted
that
is
the
key
to
getting
these
folks
engaged
early
and
keeping
them
engaged.
The
other
thing
that
we're
very
fortunate
to
have
and
is
prevention
in
Beckham
County,
that
is
an
unfunded
mandate
and
said
the
county
actually
fends
to
social
workers,
to
work
in
prevention
and
those
workers,
because
we
have
an
MoU.
O
A
Memorandum
of
Understanding,
with
mehek
high-risk
OB
clinic,
are
actually
going
over
and
engaging
prenatally
with
moms,
who
want
to
voluntarily
work
with
DSS
to
plan
for
the
birth
of
their
child.
That
is
unheard
of.
It
is
absolutely
phenomenal,
and
these
workers
go
talk
to
these
women,
because
these
women
know
they're
going
to
deliver
a
baby.
That's
going
to
be
born
positive
for
a
substance.
O
A
CPS
report
is
going
to
get
made
and
they
know
what's
going
to
happen
so
they're
they're
engaging
with
their
prevention
staff
before
the
babies
delivered
to
come
up
with
a
plan
who
can
help?
Can
grandma
help
can't
help,
maybe
they're
engaged
in
treatment,
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
say,
look
I'm
engaged
in
treatment
and
I'm
doing
better
and
they
get
help
gather
those
records
and
say
we're
working
very,
very
hard
to
provide
that
service
to
the
moms
who
want
to
voluntarily
engage
with
us.
O
The
other
thing
that
we're
doing
is
we
have
a
co-located
embedded
child
welfare
worker
on
the
mother
baby
unit
at
Mission,
Hospital
and
again.
This
is
a
collaboration
between
the
county
and
Mission
Hospital
she's
an
investigator,
and
she
is
passionate
about
this
population
and
she
is
on
that
floor
and
she's.
O
Cuz
she's
housed
there
at
the
hospital
she's
also
engaged
in
the
community
and
there's
lots
and
lots
about
the
resources
that
are
available
to
parents
and
she's
able
to
hit
parents
up
to
those
resources
in
the
hospital.
And
finally,
I
want
to
talk
about
Ava's,
House,
Western,
Carolina's
rescue
ministries
came
to
that
meeting.
I
talked
about
two
years
ago
and
heard
my
plea
to
help
us
be
able
to
house
these
mothers
in
these
babies
in
a
way
that
creates
bonding
for
them
and
they
are
developing
Ava's
house,
which
is
a
14
unit.
O
Recovery
housing
model
in
their
facility,
downtown
Jim
and
I,
were
there
last
week,
they're
very
close
and
we're
hoping
it
will
open
in
January
and
that
will
house
14
women
and
their
infants
and
I.
Just
can't
tell
you
what
a
blessing
that
will
be
to
this
community
to
be
able
to
have
those
babies
be
with
their
parent
in
a
safe
environment
while
the
moms
getting
treatment,
and
while
we
can
make
sure
that
baby
is
safe
as
well.
I.
O
Also
want
to
talk
about
what
child
placement
options
are,
so
we
have
all
of
these
children
in
care.
Where
are
they
placed
where?
Where
are
they
living?
Well,
there's
a
lot
of
options
out
there
and
the
first
that
we
try
with
children
that
come
into
care
is
called
kinship
or
relative
care,
because
it's
much
easier
and
better
for
that
child.
If
they
are
staying
with
someone
they
know.
So
this
could
be
a
relative.
This
could
be
Grandma.
This
could
be
aunt.
This
could
be
a
friend
of
the
family.
O
O
We
use
their
own
and
other
foster
homes
depending
on
what
the
need
is
and
then
there's
residential
care,
and
that
is
a
licensed
facility
and
so
there's
congregate
care,
which
would
be
something
like
Black,
Mountain
hame
for
children,
boy,
Hill,
Home
for
Children,
and
then
there
is
congregate
care
that
is
more
geared
towards
mental
health
placement
and
that
involves
via
health
and
our
partners
there
and
when
children
qualify
for
a
higher
level
of
care.
And
unless
one
is
the
biological
parent
trial
home
placement
piece
of
this.
O
So
as
we
work
with
parents
and
as
they
do
address
their
issues
and
we
can
move
the
children
home
with
them,
that's
called
a
trial,
home
placement
and
so
they're
back
living
with
their
parents
and
we're
monitoring
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
everything
and
is
is
going
as
well
as
possible.
Another
question
that
we
get
and
that
you
might
have
heard
in
the
media
last
week
is
well
here's
a
kinship
person
or
a
relative
and
want
aren't
you
placing
them
with
that
person.
O
When
a
child
comes
into
the
legal
custody
at
the
department,
we
are
required
to
make
sure
that
they
are
in
a
licensed
placement
and
if
not,
the
court
has
to
sanction
the
placement
that
we
have
the
child
in
and
when
you
go
to
the
court
and
they
want
to
sanction
the
placement
they
want
to
know
about
that
person
and
they
want
to
know
their
criminal
background.
If
every
adult
living
in
the
home,
not
just
the
person,
that's
gonna,
be
the
primary
caregiver,
but
every
adult
in
the
home
their
background,
their
criminal
background
do
you.
O
They
have
past
child
welfare
history,
because
that
could
be
a
concern
and
it's
the
home
just
environmentally,
at
least
minimally
standards,
so
that
the
meeting
minimal
standards
so
that
the
child
is
going
to
be
safe
and
well
cared
for
there.
So
sometimes
when
someone
is
saying
I'll
be
the
placement,
we
can't
recommend
to
the
court
that
they
be
the
placement
because
of
something
in
their
background
that
prevents
that
and
all
of
those
have
to
be
court
sanctioned
unless
they're
licensed.
O
So
when
a
child
comes
into
care,
we
have
to
develop
a
permanent
plan
for
that
child
and
remember
I
mentioned
that
we
have
to
achieve
permanency
within
12
months.
A
federal
mandate
and
12
months
is
not
a
long
time.
It
sounds
like
a
long
time,
but
it's
not
a
long
time,
and
so
when
children
come
into
care,
we
have
to
assign
a
permanent
plan
to
them
and
the
vast
majority
of
the
time,
probably
99%
of
the
time.
O
The
initial
primary
permanent
plan
is
reunification,
because
we
believe
strongly
that
the
best
place
for
a
child
to
be
is
with
their
own
family
if
they
can
be
there
safely
and
if
they
can't
be
with
their
own
family
through
reunification.
The
next
most
permanent
plan
for
that
child
is
adoption,
and
we
believe
strongly
that
all
children
deserve
a
forever
family.
Not
a
temporary
placement,
not
a
place
to
spend
the
night
in
Leatherhead,
but
a
permanent
family
of
forever
family.
O
We
work
in
tandem
with
our
court
system.
Our
guardian
ad
litem
program,
which
guardian
ad
litems,
are
an
independent
third
party
appointed
by
the
court
and
their
charge
from
the
court
is
to
make
recommendations
about.
What's
in
the
best
interest
of
the
child,
we
meet
with
the
parent
bar
the
court,
the
GL
quarterly
to
talk
about
data
and
trends
and
things
that
might
be
a
barrier
to
timely,
efficient
use
of
the
court
system.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
cost
of
foster
care.
O
There's
been
some
comments
made
from
this
podium
in
public
comment
that
somehow
Beckham
County
is
getting
rich
off
of
foster
care
and
adoption
and
I
really
want
to
dispel
that
myth,
because
it's
just
absolutely
false,
as
you
can
see
from
this
slide
and
I,
don't
normally
read
funds
but
I'm
gonna
actually
read
this
slide
directly.
In
fiscal
year
18
there
was
3.5
million
budgeted
to
pay
the
monthly
board
payments.
O
That's
the
payment
that
goes
to
the
foster
parent
to
help
care
for
the
child,
and
1.74
million
of
that
was
reimbursed
to
the
county
by
federal
dollars
a
little
over
900,000
of
that
was
reimbursed
to
the
county
by
the
state.
But
please
note
that
over
$900,000
of
that
budget
is
County
dollars.
We
are
not
making
money
off
of
foster
care.
The
second
paragraph
talks
about
that.
This
county
not
only
pays
what
we're
required
to
pay
to
keep
children
in
foster
care
through
the
foster
care
board
payment.
O
We
supplement
that
to
the
teen
of
six
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
things
like
visitation.
We
provide
visitation
coaches
so
that
families
can
get
even
more
visits
than
we
can
possibly
provide
as
just
Social
Work
staff.
We,
those
kinship
and
relative
care
providers
that
might
not
be
licensed
and
can't
draw
down
this
board
payment.
The
county
sometimes
subsidizes
that
care
by
giving
them
direct
money
to
help
pay
for
that
placement
in
child
care
and
medical
care.
O
Not
all
those
costs
are
covered
by
child
care,
subsidy
or
Medicaid,
and
so
when
those
costs
are
incurred,
the
county
is
paying
for
that.
We
are
not
making
money
off
of
foster
care.
Let's
talk
about
adoption,
that's
another
thing
that
you've
heard
that
were
somehow
making
money
off
of
adoption
and
again
that
is
simply
entry.
O
Adoption
assistance
is
a
payment
paid
directly
to
the
adoptive
parents,
for
children
that
are
deemed
eligible.
Not
every
child
is
eligible
for
adoption
assistance,
but
most
children
are
and
here's
wan
children
that
are
adopted
out
of
the
foster
care
system
have
experienced
trauma
just
by
the
nature
of
being
in
the
foster
care
system
and
coming
from
a
home
where
abuse
or
neglect
has
occurred.
A
lot
of
these
children
have
extensive
medical
needs
or
mental
health
needs
or
educational
needs
that
may
qualify
for
them
to
receive
this
adoption
assistance
payment.
O
O
We
are
currently
paying
over
for
us
adoption
assistance,
we're
contributing
to
over
five
hundred
children
who
are
reaching
or
receiving
adoption
assistance,
and
you
can
see
from
this
example
for
the
month
of
October
that
our
cost
as
a
county,
which
is
basically
electronically
dremeled
from
the
bank
account
of
the
county
by
the
state
every
month,
but
for
the
method
Tabor,
it
was
over
56,000
dollars.
Our
budget
for
that
portion
of
our
part
of
adoption.
Assistance
for
this
fiscal
year
is
a
little
over
$800,000.
That's
County
money,
that's
being
paid
to
support
adoption
assistance.
O
We
are
not
making
money
off
of
adoptions.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
adoption
promotion
program.
This
is
a
program
that
the
federal
government
again
gives
to
the
states
and
I'm
gonna
actually
read
this,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
get
it
exactly
right.
The
purpose
of
the
adoption
permission
program
is
to
enhance
and
expand
adoption
programs
to
secure
permanent
homes
for
hard-to-place
children
and
to
encourage
partnerships
between
public
and
private
agencies
to
achieve
permanency
for
children
in
a
timely
manner,
by
providing
incentives
for
the
adoption
of
special
needs.
O
Children
participating
agencies
are
compensated
for
adoption
services
that
culminate
in
the
finalization
of
an
adoption
of
a
child
from
foster
care,
and
this
is
what
that
money
can
pay
for
recruitment
of
adoptive
families,
pre-adoption
training,
post
placement
support
and
the
facilitation
of
legal
procedures
resulting
in
the
finalization
of
an
adoption.
So,
yes,
there
are
some
incentives
out
there
that,
if
you
are
able
to
adopt
children
who
are
hard
to
adopt
older
children,
sibling
groups,
those
type
things
and
we
work
jointly
with
a
lot
of
our
private
child,
placing
agencies.
O
There
is
some
money
that
is
awarded
for
those
adoptions,
but
it
is
restricted
to
use
only
for
the
recruitment
and
the
placement
of
future
adoptions.
It's
not
many
that
we
can
spend
anyway
that
we
want
to.
We
are
not
making
money
off
of
adoptions.
I'm
happy
to
report
that
in
fiscal
year
17
we
completed
64
adoptions
in
Buncombe,
County.
Those
are
forever
families
for
those
children
who
had
been
affected
and
impacted
by
abuse
and
neglect,
and
last
I
want
to
end
by
talking
about
what
child
welfare
is.
O
Child
welfare
is
a
balancing
with
the
safety
and
well-being
of
the
child.
In
the
middle
and
the
needs
of
the
family
on
either
side-
and
we
are
doing
all
we
can
to
provide
services
to
that
family
to
address
the
issues
that
brought
them
to
the
attention
child
welfare
to
hopefully
prevent
those
children
from
ever
entering
foster
care
and
if
they
do
we're
providing
services
to
that
family
to
try
to
reunify
them,
because
we
absolutely
believe
that's
the
best
outcome.
O
But
if
that
can't
happen,
we
are
going
to
move
towards
a
permanent
plan
for
that
child,
because
it
is
about
the
child
having
a
permanent
plan
and
a
forever
family.
The
the
issues
driving
child
welfare
in
Beckham
County
right
now
are
the
issues
that
you've
had
before
you
and
many
many
venues.
The
substance
abuse,
particularly
the
opioid
crisis
and
domestic
violence.
O
Those
two
issues
on
their
own
are
incredibly
challenging
to
tackle,
as
you
know,
but
when
you
add
into
that
mix
the
impact
of
those
issues
on
children
who
are
exposed
to
substance
abusing
parents
and
parents
who
are
engaging
in
domestic
violence,
you
can
see
how
challenging
the
work
of
child
welfare
is
when
you're
trying
to
balance.
All
of
that
make
sure
the
child's
safe
and
provide
services
to
their
family,
but
here's
the
positive
we
believe
the
huge
can
occur.
O
We
believe
families
can
heal
and
children
can
be
reunified
with
their
parents
safely,
and
we
believe
that,
if
that's
not
possible,
children
can
have
a
permanent
forever
home
through
adoption.
We
know
that
no
system
is
perfect
and
we
do
not
claim
to
be,
but
we
know
that
our
staff
work
every
single
day
to
provide
the
absolute
best
services
that
they
can
to
the
children
and
families
of
been
compounding.
N
G
N
O
A
Does
it
look
like
there's
any
other
questions
so
I'm?
Thank
you
for
that
very
thorough
and
very
informative
presentation
and
for
all
of
the
work
that
you
and
your
staff
do
for
kids
and
our
families
in
Buncombe
County.
All
right
next
up
is
Lisa
EB,
we'll
share
some
information
about
the
let's
talk
campaign.
P
As
a
commission,
you
have
demonstrated
your
deep
investment
in
going
out
in
the
community
and
getting
feedback
from
the
community,
and
that
has
really
been
wonderful
as
an
employee
to
see
the
success
that
you've
had,
whether
it's
been
your
coffee
with
communities
or
it's
been
the
opioid
town
halls
that
we've
had
or
it's
been
watching,
Commissioner
Presley
and
Beltre,
trying
to
fit
into
the
small
chairs
at
some
of
the
elementary
schools
that
we
visited
together.
So
it's
been
really
very
gratifying
to
watch
you
all
as
the
Commission
engaged
with
the
community
as
you
have
tonight.
P
What
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
just
another
invitation
that
we're
extending
to
the
community
to
talk
back
and
with
us
to
give
us
input
and
feedback
and
in
the
tagline,
for
this
invitation
is
simply,
let's
talk
and
it
could
be.
Let's
talk
budget.
It
could
be.
Let's
talk,
taxes,
it
could
be.
Let's
talk
child
welfare,
but
the
idea
is
is
that
we
want
to
be
in
conversation
with
our
community.
We
want
them
to
provide
us
with
feedback,
and
so
we're
doing
this
through
a
number
of
different
ways.
P
We'll
have
these
posters
throughout
the
community,
which
identify
ways
that
the
community
can
give
us
that
feedback.
They
can
call
eight
to
eight
to
five
zero
four,
oh
six,
six
and
simply
leave
a
voicemail.
It
couldn't
be
any
easier.
They
can
just
call
that
number
and
let
us
know,
what's
on
their
mind,
they
can
also
email
us
at
let's
talk
at
Buncombe,
County,
org
and
again
just
provide
us
whatever
information.
They
have.
There's
also
this
website
that
they
have
up
here.
P
That
shows
you
kind
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
let's
talk
campaign,
what
kind
of
information
and
feedback
we're
open
to,
which
is
basically
everything,
and
then
it
provides
them
with
the
forum
where
they
can
fill
out
that
information.
All
this
can
be
done
anonymously,
but
it
can
also
be
done
by
providing
a
phone
number
and
a
name
if
they
want
follow-up,
we're
also
providing
for
our
staffs.
These
simple
wallet
cards,
which
month
seems
so
here
it
is
that
had
to.
P
Let's
talk
logo
on
it
and
again,
you
can
just
put
these
in
your
pocket
and
whip
them
out,
and
it
gives
all
these
different
ways
that
the
community
can
provide
us
with
feedback.
So
we
will
take
that
feedback,
whether
it's
through
a
voice
mail
through
an
email
or
through
the
input
on
the
website
or
through
a
customer
comment
card
that
they
have
and
every
one
of
our
offices
that
the
public
are
interfacing
with
and
then
kathy
hughes,
terry
orange
asthma
and
myself
will
go
through.
Those
comments.
P
Make
sure
that
we're
providing
you
with
feedback
about
what
kind
of
information
that
we're
getting
and
just,
as
importantly,
making
sure
that
there's
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed
that
we're
getting
the
right
staff
involved
and
that
we're
addressing
that.
We
envision
having
summaries
of
these
on
the
internet
for
the
community
to
see
that
we
had
people
concerned
about
X
and
we
addressed
it,
and
here
was
how
it
was
resolved
so
again
trying
to
create
that
feedback.
P
And
let
people
know
that
when
they
speak
up,
things
happen
and
that's
the
whole
point
of
the
conversation
that
we're
trying
to
have
the
community
I
like
to
think
of
it
not
really
as
a
campaign.
This
is
an
ongoing
commitment
that
we
have
of
the
community
to
stay
in
relationship
with
them
and
make
sure
that
they're
helping
to
shape
our
government.
C
I've
just
got
a
couple
couple
of
comments.
One
I
have
actually
used
this
site
to
direct
constituents
to
it,
because
it
does
have
a
summary
of
some
actions.
That's
been
taking
them
in
the
last
120
days
and
so
other
questions
the
answers
when
they,
when
they
see
those
answers
in
print-
and
they
hear
us
talk
about
it
and
they
go
there
and
they
see
it.
C
It
does
add
some
credibility
to
it
and
I'm
grateful
for
that
and
like
the
the
cards,
are
a
good
idea,
and
you
know
one
of
the
challenges
you
know
we're
charged
to
fix.
What
we
find
is
wrong,
and
so
that
doesn't
provide
a
list
that
these
things
are
being
done.
So
when
people
think
that
they're
there's
not
anything
being
done,
then
they're
able
to
see
that
so
I
think
you
for
that
clarity.
C
P
N
A
Q
Chairman
and
commissioners
I
know
that
mr.
Tully
is
going
to
make
her
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
start
by
saying
that,
on
behalf
of
County
management
and
our
emergency
management
service
director
that
we
support
moving
forward
with
this
franchise,
we
want
to
talk
about
the
detail
of
the
the
remaining
due
diligence
aspects
which
mr.
frugal
help
walk
us
through.
After
you
hear
from
mr.
Tully.
Q
R
Hi
Kermit,
Tolley
and
I'm
extremely
honored
to
be
here
tonight.
I
do
have
a
slideshow
presentation.
I
know
that
I
had
invited
you
guys
out
and
I
understand
schedules
and
the
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
world
today.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
bring
medic
to
you.
Three
pictures
and
I
think
you'll
you'll
really
like
what
I
have
brought
it
forward.
R
R
This
contract
entails
everything
from
basic
life
support
transports
to
critical
care
transport,
and
we
transferred
a
lot
of
veterans
all
over
the
southeast
in
the
United
States.
So
we
have
a
huge
commitment
and
they
really
appreciate
what
we
do
for
them,
and
we
do
it
very
well.
The
reason
I
can
tell
you
that
is.
The
federal
government
has
put
us
on
the
list,
as
recommended
to
agencies,
to
take
care
of
the
veterans.
I
R
R
Girl
Scouts
Boy,
Scouts,
Cub
Scouts.
They
know
who
made
a
kiss.
We
responded
about
this
time.
Last
year's
to
the
forest
service,
with
the
Forest
Service
in
Western
North
Carolina
to
the
wildfires.
We
spent
45
days
in
Bryson
City,
taking
care
of
firefighters,
victory
sports
racing
you'll,
hear
about
that.
This
week,
it's
occurring
at
the
AG
center.
We
have
a
contract
to
provide
services
for
the
motocross
events.
We
also
provide
services
for
NASCAR
at
the
Charlotte
Motor
Speedway
I'm,
very
proud
of
the
things
that
we've
done
over
the
past
30
years.
R
What
you're
looking
at
now
is
the
types
of
EMS
units
that
we
use.
All
of
these
units
are
certified
through
the
North
Carolina
office
of
emergency
medical
services.
The
way
things
are
inspected,
there's
an
OMS
expector
at
our
station
at
least
once
a
year-
and
this
is
just
some
more
examples
to
the
unit
on
the
right
in
front
of
City
Hall
that
email,
it's
can
track
n
Hall
for
paramedics
in
it
and
it
can
transport
three
patients
at
the
same
time.
R
R
We
have
some
EMS
support
units.
The
one
on
the
left
is
a
supervisor's
vehicle.
That's
always
a
paramedic
that
we
can
respond
to
and
those
are
ambulance,
whether
it
be
a
medic
unit
or
any
other
ambulance
in
Bocca
County.
He
can
go
and
provide
assistance
if
they
need
it.
The
one
on
the
right
is
an
ATV
that
we
use
offroad.
R
R
R
R
R
We
have
training
on
a
daily
basis
with
our
paramedics
and
then
there's
a
large
training
once
a
month.
It's
the
first
Tuesday
of
each
month.
If
you
guys
would
like
to
come
in
and
sit
down
in
on
that
you're,
more
than
welcome
to
the
bottom
building
on
the
left
is
a
fleet
maintenance
facility
and
the
one
on
the
right
is
where
our
support
vehicles
live.
R
R
This
is
a
fleet
maintenance.
What
the
inside
looks
like
our
trucks
are
rotated
through
there
on
a
scheduled
basis
or
if
something
breaks,
they
can
immediately
take
care
of
it.
The
reason
we
do
this
is
dealerships
are
extremely
expensive.
We
employ
two
mechanics
both
of
those
mechanics.
One
of
them
came
from
a
BTech
and
the
other
one
graduated
from
UTI
in
Charlotte.
R
We
have
the
ability
to
communicate
with
other
counties.
The
picture
on
the
right
shows
what
the
radios
look
like
inside
of
an
ambulance,
the
radio
on
the
bottom,
the
state-mandated
that
we
have
interoperability
across
the
state.
In
other
words,
our
emulous
should
be
able
to
talk
to
any
other
ambulance,
whether
it
be
here
Raleigh
Charlotte,
wherever
they
also
gave
us
permission
to
use
this
radios.
Luckily,
we've
not
been
successful
in
getting
those
programmed
here
yet,
but
we
really
need
that
so
that
we
can
interact
with
our
local
departments.
R
This
is
what
we
call
it
an
assignment
list,
it's
actually
in
the
ICS
document.
It's
a
document
204.
This
document
explains
what
trucks
are
in
service
on
any
given
day
who's
on
it,
the
contact
numbers
and
where
that
truck
is
located.
This
is
sent
to
Buncombe
County's
Emergency
Operations
Center
every
day,
so
those
dispatchers
know
where
our
trucks
are.
R
R
So
part
of
our
continuing
education.
The
picture
on
the
left
is
one
of
our
paramedics
teaching
the
class
to
all
of
our
guys.
The
picture
on
the
right
is
where
we
reach
out
into
the
community.
This
actually
occurred
at
MSD
in
Buncombe
County.
Our
department
went
to
MSD
and
talked
all
the
employees
in
the
operation
section
that
MSD
how
to
do
CPR.
R
We
do
that
every
year
some
training
exercises
this
event
took
place
in
Black
Mountain.
They
call
it
a
safety
day
in
Black
Mountain.
It's
at
Ingalls.
We
do
a
drill,
that's
called
texting
and
driving
they're
trying
to
get
a
message,
these
teenagers
about
what
they're
doing
and
what
not
to
do
and
what
can
happen
when
they
do
text
and
drive.
So
this
is
an
example
of
that
the
picture
on
the
left
is
Vermont
Avenue.
This
past
Halloween.
R
R
Our
Special
Operations,
like
I,
said
we
we
handle
large-scale
events,
that's
the
players
doing
that
we've
got
a
actually
we've
done
several
concerts,
there's
one
coming
up
in
National,
Civic
Center,
it's
called
the
griots
concert.
It
was
sold
out
this
year,
they're
having
that
twice
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
night.
It
takes
quite
a
number
of
paramedics
to
take
care
of
that
just
because
of
the
nature
of
it.
I
think
we
transported
seven
individuals
out
of
that.
All
of
those
were
opioid
related.
R
R
C
H
Go
far
mr.
chairman
commissioners,
good
evening,
as
mr.
Hawley
indicated,
we
received
this
application
a
couple
months
ago
and
there's
no
standard
form
as
to
how
such
an
application
comes
in
it's.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
something
that
happens
very
often
for
a
franchise
application
in
the
county.
So
mr.
Tallis
submitted
some
paperwork
in
an
audit
that
has
been
is
required
by
our
ordinance
and
is
be
reviewed
by
Finance,
and
it
appears
to
be
an
order,
and
we
worked
with
mr.
Tala
to
make
sure
that
his
his
application
was
complete.
H
H
Okay,
so
at
this
time,
what
we
really
have
to
complete
internally
is
the
counties
and
of
due
diligence.
From
all
appearances,
it
appears
that
mr.
tallies
and
the
medical
emergency
ambulance
incorporated
application
is
complete,
but
to
this
date
our
ordinance
requires
that
there's
an
investigation
by
county
staff
as
to
the
abilities
of
the
applicant
to
fulfill
its
obligations.
Should
it
be
awarded
to
franchise,
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
that.
As
of
yet
under
a
current
EMS
plan.
H
What
the
what
we
need
to
do
before
the
franchise
can
be
awarded.
Our
ordinance
requires
that
the
board
find
that
the
public
will
be
served
by
granting
the
franchisee
that
the
application
is
complete
and
accurate
and
a
believe
it
is
that
the
applicant
has
provided
adequate
evidence
of
its
ability
to
provide
the
service
and,
finally,
that
the
applicant
holds
all
necessary
licenses
for
omes.
Now
we
understand
for
mr.
H
tally
that
that
is
all
true
and
accurate,
but
we
need
to
have
a
to
complete
our
due
diligence
by
the
county
Zordon
she
has
adopted
by
the
board.
We
would
continue
that
if
there's
a
motion
by
this
board,
as
I
just
stated,
that
it
also
be
indicate
that
they
provide,
with
the
assistance
of
an
investigation,
be
provided
by
an
independent
third
party,
namely
management
solutions
for
emergency
services,
their
group
out
of
Denver
North
Carolina,
and
that
the
results
of
the
investigations
be
brought
to
this
board
at
the
earliest
opportunity.
H
H
I
know
this
a
mouthful,
but
that's
just
to
get
us
through
the
counties
required
due
diligence
and
to
bring
in
a
third
party
to
look
at
and
to
investigate
the
application
and
the
overall
in
EMS
plan
to
make
those
four
required
findings
by
the
board
and
bring
that,
and
we
want
to
bring
that
back
to
the
board.
As
soon
as
we
can.
C
To
wrap
my
head
around
it
I
want
to
thank
mr.
Tully
for
well
done
presentation,
you're,
no
stranger
to
this
commission.
This
is
not
about
us
trying
to
figure
out
whether
you
can
do
the
work
or
not.
This
is
about
how
we
can
can
move
forward
with
franchise.
I
do
think
you
read
that
that
wrong,
though
I
think
you
said
non-emergency
and
what
it
says:
it's
non-exclusive
emergency
transportation.
Yes,.
C
So
the
you
said
investigation
which
actually,
which
I
think
it's
a
technical
term
for
it,
but
MSF
es,
which
is
out
of
Denver,
as
they
did
coaching
and
training
and
review
and
think
such
as
that,
so
that
that's
basically
what
they
would
be
doing
is
is
looking
at
the
franchising
and
if
there's
something
there
there
might
be
concerned,
and
they
just
bring
that
back
and
we
would.
They
would
answer
the
question
and
we
would
move
forward.
Is
that
pretty
much
how
you
see
it
in.
H
Brief
I
spoke
with
the
principal
of
that
organization,
Keith
boast
and
in
general
they
would
look
at
overlay
maps
and
look
at
response
areas
in
the
overall
current
County
EMS
plan
to
provide
such
emergency
transportation
services
and
just
make
sure
that
this
is
a
good
fit
that
it
complements
it
and
just
report
back
to
this
board.
So.
C
I'm,
assuming
that
the
radio
discussion
or
issue
would
be,
would
be
handled
it
at
that
time,
I'm
assuming
that,
so
that,
when
a
caucus,
when
somebody
calls
in
I
mean
my
main
concern,
my
main
objective
in
moving
forward
with
this
is
my
opinion,
is
you
know
with
with
medic?
Is
that
there's
a
need
in
Buncombe
County
for
help
and
you're
qualified
to
provide
that
help,
and
so
we
want
to
look
at
the
simplest
way
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
when
somebody
dials
9-1-1
whoever's,
you
know
we
want.
C
H
I
think
so
I
think
I'll
follow
what
you're
saying
I
think
in
the
end,
what
we
do
would
be
to
develop
a
contract
for
services
based
generally
on
our
fire
department
contracts
to
require
open
meetings
and
financial
records
and
disclosures
and
the
assistance
of
of
yearly
audits,
for
instance,
and
in
terms
of
radios
and
equipment.
I
mean
that's
something
that
the
EMS,
our
staff,
local
staff,
would
have
to
be
involved
with
to
work
with
mr.
Bose
outfit
and
the
contract
provide.
He
currently
has
a
Viper
system,
but
that's
an
older
state
system.
H
C
So
I'm
I'm
prepared
to
read
what
you
yes,
sir
summer
as
a
motion
and
then
chairman
proceed
to.
However,
we're
supposed
to
proceed
but
I'm
prepared
to
read
that
as
motion
yesterday
so
motion
to
approve
the
application
for
franchise
submitted
by
medic
medical
emergency
ambulance.
I
need
to
say
that
different
transport
eeeek
transporting.
S
R
R
R
R
Skyland
has
worked
with
us
for
30
years
as
as
well
as
Bernardsville,
but
we
sit
in
Skylands
fire
district.
They
want
to
work
with
us,
the
south
end.
The
Buncombe
County
is
full
of
people
and
they're
running
one
ambulance
right
now,
when
that
one
ambulance
goes
away
out
of
any
fire
district,
somebody
has
to
respond,
we're
a
very
vital
resource
in
Buncombe
County
and
we
want
to
be
used.
Our
obligation
and
our
dedication
does
not
stop
at
the
downtown
limits.
R
I
had
an
incident
and
just
to
tell
you
the
kind
of
people
that
work
for
me
this
past
week,
I
attended
a
race
in
Myrtle,
Beach,
South,
Carolina
I
was
there
as
a
crew
member
for
one
of
the
racing
teams,
my
sister
Tanya
and
another
employee
of
medic
was
also
there.
While
we
were
there,
we
witnessed
a
race
car
driver.
What
we
call
flyswatter
wall.
R
He
was
sitting
on
the
racetrack
and
I
stood
there,
hoping
that
the
racetrack
had
their
emergency
services
in
place
and
within
a
short
period
of
time,
I
figured
out
they
didn't
so
the
crew
members
formatic
responded
to
that.
We
pulled
that
racecar
driver
out
onto
the
race
track
called
911
won
and
begin
CPR.
R
R
R
We
just
want
to
be
another
resource
that
person
that
calls
911
one
has
the
right
to
have
the
closest
aim
and,
let's
send
it
sent
to
him
if
it's
mine,
that's
great,
if
it's
a
fire
department,
that's
great
if
it's
Buncombe
County,
that's
great,
whoever
the
closest
one
and
the
most
qualified
is
who
needs
to
be
sent
to
that
column
right
now,
our
hands
are
tied
because
of
a
franchise
ordinance.
That's
ridiculous!
I'm!
R
T
Mr.
Tolly
I
understand
where
you're
at
and
mr.
Presley's
talked
a
lot
of
people
talk
to
you.
Everybody
says
Kermit
race
and
Robert
myself
both
face
basically
the
river
down
to
ash
from
new
Asheville
Speedway.
His
parents
came
down
and
basically,
when
he
raced,
they
furnished
an
ambulance
at
the
racetrack
he's
right.
Just
what
he
said
there
just
a
second
ago,
whether
or
not
a
feud
or
whatever
you
wanna
call
it
happen,
but
Kermit
Donnelly
there.
T
Mr.
Presley
there's
race
someone
now
mr.
Tolly
was
racing
gentlemen,
just
kind
of
pulls
over
and
hits
wall.
He
had
heart
attack,
I
think
his
heart
attack
gets
out
of
his
racecar.
If
they
pull
them
was
up
there,
he
gets
in
the
back
of
it
and
he
works
on
this
person.
This
driver
he
leaves
he
leaves
the
racetrack
and
now
I'm
just
trying
to
save
the
life.
T
That's
why
I
have
a
hard
time
seeing
this,
because
he
just
you
know
the
people
moved
his
race
car.
They
took
the
other
guys
race,
car
off
the
racetrack.
You
know
the
analyst
part
and
saving
lives
is
more
important
to
him
than
anything
that
I
can
see,
and
that's
I'm,
just
one
person
in
this
another
thing
I
see
managing
solution.
Engineering
services.
T
H
Fairview
fire
used
the
same
outfit
last
year
for
what
I
think
was
a
more
complex
issue
regarding
their
board
and
procedures
and
policies,
and
they
hired
this
group
to
review
bylaws
board
procedures
and
all
their
personnel
records
and
files,
and
also
ended
up
bringing
an
action
in
superior
court
to
have
the
bylaws
in
that
community,
tossed
out
by
a
Superior
Court
judge
and
have
new
bylaws
in
place.
Now.
H
E
K
A
We
will
take
public
comment
on
this
in
just
a
minute,
but
just
mr.
freer,
miss
stone
or
mr.
Hawley
I'll.
Just
ask
mr.
traverse
diem.
Do
you
do
we
have
information
about?
You
know
this
model
of
you
know
we
have
our
fire
districts.
We
have
our
County
emergency
response
services.
Is
this
model
of
also
having
a
private
sector
for-profit
licensed
entity
operating
within
that
context?
Is
that
a
the
more
common
model
and
counties
across
the
state,
or
is
that
you
know,
is
that
relatively
uncommon,
so
I.
H
Don't
really
know
perspective,
I,
don't
know
what
the
model
is
generally
across
the
state,
but
it's
very
common
for
the
volunteer
fire
departments,
so
they're,
mostly
professional
fire,
to
purpose
now.
They're,
all
non-profit,
501,
C
3
s,
so
those
are
private
corporations.
So
all
of
our
16
service
districts
that
have
we
have
our
fire
department
contracts
with
have
ambulances,
but
those
that
do
I
think
to
the
most
extent
do
it
force
a
profit
for
various
services,
the
federal
government,
Medicare,
Medicaid,
reimbursements
and
whatnot.
H
A
V
Afternoon
evening,
chairman
board,
for
the
past
year,
I've
been
embedded
in
mr.
tulley's
operation,
I'm,
CEO
and
owner
of
help
disaster
management,
which
is
also
a
company
that
does
the
exact
thing
that
you
have
in
front
of
you.
I
want
to
first
ask
you
to
really
look
at
the
word.
Investigation
he's
not
under
investigation
for
anything
you're
evaluating.
That's
called
a
real-time
evaluation,
that's
not
an
investigation.
V
Secondly,
I
asked
that
if
you're
really
going
to
spend
that
money
really
dig
into
a
bigger
bigger
picture,
because
is
it
really
naked
because
I've
been
there,
he
needs
to
be
granted
the
same
rise
that
orange
and
white
Ameth
out
there
on
the
street.
Every
EMS
system
in
the
United
States
is
operating
in
the
bottleneck
insurance
regulations
Obamacare
this
spaghetti
pocket
you
have
of
Insurance,
has
created
expenditures
that
city
councils
and
city
governments
can't
handle
and
allowing
private
annexes
into
your
eminent
services
will
relieve
that
bottleneck.
H
U
C
C
You,
you
don't
need
to
tell
us
how
well
you
guys
do
we
know
that
we've
heard
it
in
the
community.
You
need
to
you
need
to
leave
with
that
bit
of
information.
In
your
mind,
however,
this
vote
goes.
You
need
to
understand
that
that's
the
purpose
of
why
you
know
I
may
even
I
made
the
motion
and
I'm
not
gonna,
put
words
in
people's
mouths,
but
I
believe
that's
the
intent
of
those
that
will
vote
for
this
so
but
you've
been
here
planning
your
you
know,
your
your
commitment
to
the
you
know.
C
The
children
in
the
community
and
the
in
Buncombe
County
is
is
very,
you
know,
precedes
you.
You
know
I
do
think
the
intent
is
to
improve
the
911
one
respond
to
improve,
but
to
add
to
the
911
response
in
in
Buncombe
County,
so
that
people
feel
you
know
safer,
and
you
know
all
the
things
we've
talked
about
before
so
I
have.
W
H
H
S
T
We've
seen
a
whole
lot
tonight,
we've
seen
what
he
has
far
as
the
service
we've
seen
how
long
he's
been
around
we
see
he
works
for
federal
agencies.
We've
seen
pretty
well
everything
you
know
and
he's
been
inspected.
I
would
like
to
see
this.
That
would
be
fine,
but
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
could
resolve
this
and
if
we
needed
to
utilize
the
solutions
whatever.
That
would
be
fine,
I,
don't
know,
but
I
mean
it's
up
to
mr.
Tully
if
he
wants
to
go
either
way.
I'm
gonna
vote
for
the
resolution.
T
I
just
don't
see
us
having
to
spend
$10,000
I
just
know
that
it
took
him
X
amount
of
years
and
everything
to
bring
back
to
Buncombe
County
what
you
needed
to
be
for
him
to
be
able
to
even
come
forward
with
this.
That's
what
I've
seen,
and
so
you
know
he
spent
a
lot
of
money
to
get
to
this
point,
to
be
able
to
do
something
that
he
was
doing
four
years
ago.
He
was
doing
this
for
years
ago,
so
but
I'll
vote
for
it
anyway.
Mr.
S
Q
Think
that's
ultimately,
a
board
decision.
I
do
I
think
both
mr.
free
and
I
would
would
make
the
point
that
if
you
look
at
your
ordinance,
we
have
to
do
the
dude,
which
is
I
I,
would
trust
the
tallies
with
any
member
of
my
family
on
any
given
day.
But
my
job
is
still
to
say
that
there's
processes
we
have
to
follow
to
comply
with
the
ordinance
and
I
think
that's
the
recommendation.
We
bring
you,
we
really
view
using
outside
consultant
as
expediting
the
process,
because
the
work
has
to
be
done.
Q
The
the
check
in
the
boxes
and
making
sure
we've
appropriately
reviewed
everything
whether
we
use
an
outside
person
or
inside
staff
and
I,
also
think
to
the
point
that
came
up
earlier.
We
view
this
relationship
with
its
outside
consultant
to
talk
about
our
overall
system
and
how
do
we
move
forward
in
meeting
the
needs
as
we
grow
as
a
community
in
a
way
that
puts
less
burden
on
the
taxpayers?
So
we
view
it
as
broader
than
an
assessment
of
an
individual
potential
franchisee.
Q
H
Just
point
out
that
the
ten
thousand
dollar
figure
I
just
called
chief
Jones
and
ask
him
how
much
he
paid.
So
that's
where
that
comes
from
when
I
was
taking.
Speaking
with
mr.
boast,
he
says
there:
men
evolved
almost
any
kind
of
arrangement.
We
can
make
a
quick
look-see,
a
more
thorough,
look-see,
one-time
payment
or
a
contract
over
a
term.
So
that's
just
to
give
you
an
idea
and.
N
A
Also
speak
in
support
of
doing
the
feasibility.
Well,
the
evaluation
feasibility,
whatever
we're
going
to
call
it
I
think
this
is
a
pretty
important
decision.
We're
considering
and
I
certainly
have
no
doubt
that
Kermit's
organization
and
the
team
you
have
I,
don't
have
any
doubt
that
you
guys
can
are
doing
a
great
job
in
continue
can
continue
to
do
a
great
job
in
in
the
work,
but
I
do
think.
I
do
think
we
you
know.
The
the
real
question
in
front
of
us
is
looking
at.
A
Is
the
addition
of
this
of
this
franchise
going
to
strengthen
the
overall
emergency
response
services
in
Buncombe
County
going
forward,
and
is
this
model
of
the
having
this
for-profit
entity
working
within
the
context
of
the
you
know,
the
the
public
organizations
that
are
doing
it?
Is
it
a
net
positive
contribution?
You
know
when
you,
when
you
think
about
it
on
a
specific
case
basis,
someone
needs
help
who's
closest,
it's
really
its
course.
Of
course.
A
Just
think.
We
need
to
be
upfront
about
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
it,
and
if
it's
really
clear
that
the
pros
outweigh
the
cons
from
an
overall
planning
standpoint,
then
you
know
I'll
be
I'll,
be
an
enthusiastic
supporter
of
it.
I'll
vote
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
move
this
process
forward,
but
I
really
do
you
know
the
recommendations
of
this
organization
that
we're
gonna
ask
to
take
a
look
at
this.
They
really
do
matter
to
me.
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
arenas
where
there's
you
know.
A
This
is
a
there's
people
on
different
sides
of
this
and
there's
turf
issues
out
there
on
all
the
different
sides.
I
think
we
just
need
to
get
the
you
know,
I
think
having
an
outside
recommendation
on
this
will
be
really
helpful
in
thinking
through
and
confirming.
This
is
the
right
step
to
take
so
I'm,
so
port
of
emotion,
but
I
really
am
also
supportive
of
of
looking
at
all
them
the
best
data
we
can
get
to
make
a
final
decision.
I.
J
C
A
wrap
up
come
coming
in
just
a
couple
things:
real
quick
is
that
I
think
the
choice
of
someone
out
of
Denver
North
Carolina
is
a
very
good
fit
for
our
area.
For
the
you
know,
the
the
rural
area
that
Buncombe
County
has
and
I
think
that's
a
good
fit.
I
also
think
that
the
that
is
pretty
clear
from
the
majority
of
the
board
that
the
direction
is
2x,
but
like
this.
This
is
not
something
we
want
to
fool
around
with
it's
holiday
season.
C
C
It's
not
about
turf
it's
about
process
and
about
taking
care
of
people
and
saving
lives,
and
that's
what
this
decision
is
all
about
and
I
think
that
the
addition
of
whether
it
was
them
or
someone
else
management
solutions,
former
service
just
going
to
add
credibility
to
the
decision,
but
I
do
think
I'm
I'm
hearing
that
this
needs
to
be
expedited
so
that
we
can
move
on.
So
alright.
C
A
H
Mr.
chairman,
commissioners,
as
to
this
green
way,
he's
been
optioned
I,
see
max
is
on
the
ball,
so
he's
pulled
up,
but
we
have
sort.
We
see
all
this
map
of
where
it
says
near
South,
Oak,
Success,
Highway,
191,
the
137
acre
Ferry
Road
property
is
that
tan
area
just
to
the
back
just
to
the
right
of
that
191
and
the
red
stripe.
H
H
So
there
we
go
right
there
in
the
middle
of
the
tan
area.
That's
that's
the
Ferry
Road
property,
and
so
this
is
we've
been
working
with
the
city.
I
have
were
for
a
period
of
time
on
this,
the
city.
This
is
a
roundabout.
Well,
let
me
back
up.
The
city
has
a
right
to
an
easement
across
this
property
pursuant
to
its
previous
work,
with
Henderson
County
under
the
water
agreement
when
they
had
the
authority
and
we're
going
to
put
a
plant
on
that
site.
H
As
that
agreement
fell
apart
some
some
years
ago,
part
of
the
resolution
between
the
city
of
Asheville
and
Hendersonville
to
say:
okay,
well,
we'll
have
the
property,
but
whenever
you
sell
it,
you
have
to
provide
for
an
easement.
So
the
county
bought
this.
As
we
all
know
a
couple
years
ago,
this
137
acres,
but
we
didn't
have
a
definitive
route
for
an
easement.
H
So
now
we
have
a
developer,
also
who's
nibbling
at
this
property,
and
we've
discussed
that
and
we're
working
on
getting
a
contract
for
this
property,
the
terms
of
which
we
can't
really
disclose
quite
yet,
but
for
any
developer
to
use
this
property
for
residential
purposes.
They
need
to
know
where
the
easement
will
be
so.
This
easement
locates,
the
easement
on
the
eastern
and
southern
lines
of
the
property
50
feet
wide,
so
the
topography
lives
itself
well,
easement
in
those
locations,
because
they're
they're
not
easily
building.
J
H
All
so
part
of
that
part
of
the
due
diligence
in
hopes
of
our
prospective
buyers
to
see
that
would
they
have
a
definitive
location,
so
they
can
get
architects
and
engineers
to
map
out
the
property
and
make
sure
they're,
not
mapping
and
planning
for
something
that
would
be
in
this
easement.
So
the
easements
not
as
wide
as
it
appears,
of
course,
on
that
map,
but
that
depiction
is
50
feet
wide
along
the
I
26
side
of
the
property
and
along
the
river
side
of
the
property.
H
Any
questions
I'll
be
glad
to
try
to
answer,
but
this
would
be
a
permanent
easement
and
Tipperary
construction
easement
to
the
city
of
Ashburn
from
Buncombe
County,
and
we
don't
know
when
that
easement
or
that
agreement
might
be
built
or
the
projected
timeframe
or
expense,
but
that's
just
that's
just
the
hold
of
property
for
that
future
use.
Thank.
H
Sir,
the
county
owns
the
property
now
with
just
an
undefined
easement
for
Greenway
purposes,
so
now
to
be
able
to
get
into
position
to
be
able
to
convey
it
and
what
the
county
wants
to
convey
the
property.
This
board
has
set
us
in
those
motions.
We
need
to
have
a
definitive
area
for
that,
so
any
conveyance
we've
made
would
be
subject
to
this
easement
Thanks.
A
A
I'm
gonna
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
Is
there
any
public
comment
on
the
motion?
All
right,
I'll
bring
it
back
to
the
board
any
further
questions
or
discussion.
All
in
favor
of
the
resolution.
Please
say:
aye
aye
any
opposed
great.
Thank
you.
Mr.
Freeman.
All
right
board
appointments.
We
have
one
vacancy
for
the
County
Board
of
adjustments.
So
if
any
members
of
the
public
are
interested
in
serving
on
the
Board
of
adjustments,
we
would
encourage
you
to
go
to
the
County
website
and
fill
out
an
application
and
send
it
to
kathy
hughes.
A
The
county
clerk,
a
couple
of
announcements,
November
23rd
and
24th
county
offices
are
closed
for
Thanksgiving
holiday
November
30th.
There
will
be
an
opioid
Town
Hall
at
the
Fairview
branch
library,
from
6
to
8
p.m.
hosted
by
district
2
commissioners,
Mike
fryer
and
Ellen
frost,
December
5th
of
5
p.m.
the
Buncombe
County
Board
of
Commissioners
will
hold
their
regular
meeting
at
200
college
through
streets
room
three
to
six
in
downtown
Asheville.
There
is
no
need
for
a
closed
session
this
evening.